WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.680 You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:08.000 a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every 3 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:09.480 thirty one. Do you wish to report a. 4 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.640 UFO over hey, we want to one of. 5 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:15.439 Those areas thirty one. 6 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 7 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 8 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.039 I wouldn't know what kind of reports, clouds. 9 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:26.000 Time areas thirty one me neither there were self. 10 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.600 If it was anybody above us to pass us, Like 11 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:34.719 thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay, 12 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:37.039 OFFI the UFO. 13 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:41.119 Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, if you passed over. 14 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.399 I got I don't know what it was, but it's 15 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.280 from at least to three thousand feet above us. See, 16 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:48.399 I passed right over the top. 17 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:54.520 Of US ninety one one. You just called up to 18 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:55.359 me before. 19 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.240 They're after staying the airplanes. 20 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:06.840 He is to God on an unidentified object, every liberty 21 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:14.239 or call or calm on an unidentified flying object. 22 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 23 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 24 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.560 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 25 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:47.920 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 26 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.120 Hello and welcome to the show. How are you all 27 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.920 doing this week? I'm Nick Hunter and this is the 28 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:58.519 UFO Chronicles podcast. In Tonight's first hand account, it comes 29 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.000 to us from Tennessee. Melissa takes us back to a 30 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:05.560 quiet Sunday night in nineteen seventy four, when she was 31 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.240 just eleven years old. Her family had just left evening 32 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:13.039 worship at the church and were driving a deserted stretch 33 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:18.560 of the newly constructed Eye seventy five between Chattanooga and Knoxville. 34 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:23.800 No traffic, no distractions, just a road and something watching 35 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:28.319 from above. What appeared was a massive, disc shaped craft, 36 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:33.840 liquid silver like, shimmering mercury or pewter, suddenly hovering over 37 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:37.520 their car keep him pace silently in the Tennessee night sky. 38 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.360 But the most unforgettable part was seeing fear on her 39 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.919 father's face for the very first time. Join us, as 40 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:49.159 Melissa recounts, this a nerving encounter with the UFO so large, 41 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.400 so otherworldly, it turned an ordinary drive home into a 42 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:58.560 moment frozen in time. Melissa is up next, but first, 43 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:00.479 if you enjoy the show and you would like to 44 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.560 help support the podcast on Patreon. You can do this 45 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:05.919 for as little as one dollar a month. Head on 46 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:10.520 over to patreon dot com Forward slash Ufo Chronicles podcast. 47 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:12.800 You can also find a link in the description of 48 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.800 this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now on 49 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:38.400 the show. Hello Melissa, welcome to the podcast. 50 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:40.080 Thank you for having me. 51 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.599 Thank you for joining us tonight. And you're calling from Tennessee. 52 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.120 Yes, volunteer snite. 53 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.919 Wonderful, That's something I love to hear. Okay, now, Melissa, 54 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.439 you have an experience to share with us. Would you 55 00:03:56.639 --> 00:04:00.039 like to take us back to the nineteen seventies, please. 56 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:05.120 Ma'am, Yes, sir. This was in the early nineteen seventies. 57 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:10.680 I was eleven years old and I was with my 58 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:16.319 parents and one of my sisters, she was eighteen, and 59 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:20.480 we live in a small city called Cleveland, which is 60 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:26.040 located between the cities of Chattanooga and Knoxville. If you're 61 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:31.120 familiar at all with Tennessee. And during this time period, 62 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:38.360 they were finishing up a major interstate called I seventy five. 63 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:45.000 This interstate runs north to south and it is one 64 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:50.240 of the biggest interstates of the United States. And my 65 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.879 dad was a minister with the church of Christ, and 66 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.920 we had a very long drive to go to worship service. 67 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.759 Usually took us over an hour because we had to 68 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:07.720 go to the back roads. So, needless to say, we 69 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:13.519 were thrilled that they had decided that they were going 70 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:18.199 to do construction on seventy five and it was going 71 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:22.959 to be just a stone's throw from our home and 72 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.480 that was going to cut like forty five minutes off 73 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:32.000 of our drive going to church. And so, needless to say, 74 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:36.000 there was no traffic on seventy five at this time 75 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:42.600 because the interstate ended right where we would get off 76 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:48.279 the interstate to go to our church. And this had 77 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.240 to have been a Sunday night or a Wednesday night, 78 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:55.319 because it was evening when we were coming home from 79 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:03.079 worship service and there were no other around. And like 80 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:08.000 I said, we were very country folk. Okay, we weren't 81 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:13.360 big city folk. Cleveland was a small town at this time, 82 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:19.720 and so we weren't used to fancy things. So we're 83 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:25.079 coming back in this interstate's a real big deal to us, 84 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:29.160 and we're traveling home and you have to you have 85 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.240 to cross a pretty big river. It's called the Highwasee River. 86 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.839 And I guess we were about a quarter of a 87 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:40.759 mile away from where we would cross the bridge there 88 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.720 and it's just pitch dark. Oh you could see it's 89 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:50.639 the headlights what they illuminate. When all of a sudden, 90 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:56.399 it's like the road just filled up with light. And 91 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:02.639 what it was, it was reflectors on the road. And 92 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:07.560 to us it was like Christmas morning. We had never 93 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:14.519 seen anything like that. You're driving in pitch black and 94 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:20.360 all of a sudden, the headlights from the car hit 95 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:24.639 these reflectors on either side of the highway and straight 96 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:29.000 down the middle, and it was just an explosion of light. 97 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.519 And we were laughing and we just thought it was 98 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:41.000 just an incredible thing to see. And anyway, we were 99 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.600 just going on and on about that, and then the 100 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:52.759 next thing we knew, this object appears over our car. 101 00:07:53.879 --> 00:08:01.000 And this is before anything like Close in Counter any 102 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.720 of those movies ever came out. We were lucky to 103 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:08.439 get three channels on the TV, and that's if you 104 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:14.160 had a good pair of rabbit ears. And so we 105 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:21.519 weren't our brains weren't contaminated with movies and stories and things. 106 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:26.360 We were a good nuclear family. Okay, as far as 107 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:32.519 the mom, the dad, the sisters. We didn't have outside 108 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:44.000 influences about certain things. And this huge object appeared over 109 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:49.480 our car. And the only way that I can describe 110 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:54.240 it and the way that it looked. And if you 111 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:00.000 remember the old thermometers that had the mercury in them, 112 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:06.200 it you know, liquid mercury. How it looks, this object 113 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:17.519 was like shimmering silver, pewter looking. It didn't have red lights, 114 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:24.759 green lights, any type of lights like that around it. 115 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:29.320 It was metal, but it was moving. The metal was moving, 116 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:38.960 but it was perfectly circular, and it was huge. I'm 117 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:41.240 not saying it was the size of a football field, 118 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.559 but it was at least the size of half of 119 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:53.559 a football field, and it was at least I would say, 120 00:09:53.600 --> 00:10:01.600 seventy five to one hundred feet above us, and it 121 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:06.320 was about forty five to fifty feet in front of us, 122 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:12.440 and it was keeping pace with the speed that my 123 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:17.559 dad was driving the car, and you could feel it. 124 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:23.799 It was a presence, like a pressure almost, and it 125 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:30.639 stayed that way for at least a good three minutes 126 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:37.919 that it just it paralleled us on that highway. And 127 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.759 I remember my mother looking at my dad and she said, Franklin, 128 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:48.039 what is that? And of course my sister and I 129 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:51.919 we were in the backseat of the car and we 130 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.519 were leaning forward and we were just you know, we 131 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.240 were dumbfounded. We didn't know what we were looking at. 132 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.679 And I think I had told you early on. That's 133 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.000 the first time in my life. My dad was a 134 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:09.799 veteran in the United States Navy in World War Two. 135 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:14.480 He saw a lot of bad stuff. That was the 136 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:17.919 first time in my life I ever saw my father scared. 137 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:24.000 He was dumbfounded. He did not know what to say. 138 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.919 He just kept his eyes on the road and it 139 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:33.960 kept driving. And after about three minutes, this object just 140 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:40.759 it took off so quickly that by the time you blinked, 141 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:47.480 it was gone. And it just went straight It didn't 142 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.799 go straight up in the air. It went straight forward 143 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:56.399 and it was gone. And I don't know how to 144 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.279 explain that other than the fact, and this is just 145 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:07.000 my theory. The older I got looking back on it 146 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:14.440 was that maybe our headlights when it eliminated that highway, 147 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:20.720 and that highway had not been there ever, that they 148 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:27.960 were always watching that area and they noticed something was different, 149 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:32.480 and they noticed something was different, and they were checking 150 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:36.679 it out. Because I've never seen I've looked at UFO 151 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:40.840 specials and I've read about Betty and Barney Hill and 152 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:48.879 watched documentaries, but I've never seen a UFO described like that. 153 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:53.120 And I've been in the military. I spent ten years, 154 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.879 six years in the Army, four years in the Navy. 155 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:03.879 I know these things exist, but I've never heard anybody 156 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:12.200 describe one like that, And to this day it still 157 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:17.600 confuses me. I know that there's different types of them, 158 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:27.200 but this thing was so huge. It was beautiful. But 159 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:35.679 can you imagine metal or like liquid mercury over your 160 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.720 car like that, and it just melting and moving around 161 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:47.840 and staying in one place like that. It bothered my 162 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:54.039 sister so bad that she repressed that memory. When I 163 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.919 brought it back up to her, she had repressed it. 164 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:01.480 It had scared her so bad, and when I brought 165 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:06.440 it back up then she the memory came flooding back 166 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:11.840 on her and she was like, oh my gosh. Yeah, 167 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.799 she said, I had pushed that out of my head 168 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:21.080 because I didn't want to remember it. And I just 169 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:25.879 think that with all that, there was a chemical plant 170 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:31.399 that was close to the river, and you know, we 171 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:36.360 talked earlier about nuclear power, and we lived right in 172 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:43.279 the Tennessee Valley where the TVA has several nuclear plants, 173 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:50.080 and so I know that they're always always keeping watch 174 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:57.039 on these nuclear plants. But when those when that highway 175 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:03.320 lit up like that, I think got their attention. I mean, 176 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.279 I can't think of any other reason why it would 177 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:10.679 have pinpointed us, especially because there was no other traffic. 178 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:15.639 We were the only car on the highway, and of 179 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:19.240 course you didn't have cell phones or anything like that 180 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.799 back then to even make a picture. But I remember 181 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.519 it like it was yesterday, and this wasn't something that 182 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.559 you just ran and told the local newspaper, because people 183 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:34.960 would have thought that you were insane, especially when your 184 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:41.000 father's a minister. I mean, you know, people don't take 185 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:45.120 kindly to that kind of stuff, and surely to get us, 186 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:49.600 we can't be the only people that have seen something 187 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:53.360 like that. I mean, have you ever talked to anybody 188 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:57.279 that has seen something similar to that? 189 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:02.320 Over the years? With hind or shapes and sizes, I 190 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.360 could probably dig you out a couple very similar looking objects. 191 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.759 MASSA that was the most upclose and personal that I 192 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.879 have been. You could almost reach out and touch it. 193 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:19.000 It was so close. We weren't abducted or anything like that. 194 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:27.080 It's just a very, very vivid memory. Another one that 195 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:31.879 comes to mind other than what I learned in the military, 196 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:36.120 and some of that stuff I can't talk about. And 197 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:41.440 I'm sure you understand that we were on vacation. We 198 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.399 were at a place called Cape sam Blass, which is 199 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:50.720 located in Florida, and that's close to Tindall Air Force Base, 200 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.919 which is part of NORAD, which is the first line 201 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:00.759 of Defense Air Force base. We've got some of the 202 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:06.119 fastest planes that the US Air Force has. And in fact, 203 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:11.279 we have lived in Mexico Beach, which was destroyed by 204 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:15.680 Hurricane Michael a few years back, and we had been 205 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:21.799 vacationing down there for decades. And the one thing about 206 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:28.160 Tendel Air Force Base is those jets never fly at night. Now, 207 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:31.240 they'll do their maneuvers and stuff during the daytime. I 208 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.400 and you can hear the sonic booms and all this 209 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:39.279 kind of stuff when they're doing flight maneuvers and stuff. 210 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:44.559 But this was at night. And our mother came in 211 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.240 my sister in my room and told us, and we're 212 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:52.799 grown adults by now. In fact, I was already out 213 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:57.480 of the military, and she said, y'all got to come 214 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.720 out here on the balcony and look up here in 215 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.240 the s and tell me what's going on. And there 216 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.160 was a I'm just going to call it a UFO, 217 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.160 that's what it was. And it was it had a 218 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:16.119 reddish color to it, but I mean it was dancing. 219 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:20.680 It was all over the place. It wasn't a laser. 220 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:26.160 There was no point from the ground to the sky 221 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:29.400 that could have been making that. This was before drones 222 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:35.359 and all of that. This had to have been late eighties, 223 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:42.599 early nineties when this happened and all of us saw it. 224 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.079 There was at least seven of us out there on 225 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:50.240 the balcony watching this happen. And I guess we sit 226 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:54.559 out there and watched that thing doing it, dancing around 227 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.279 for ten minutes, and then we heard that familiar sound 228 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:02.119 of those Air Force sets. And like I said, in 229 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:06.839 all the years that we had been going to Mexico 230 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:12.160 Beach into Cape's Endblast on vacation, we had never ever 231 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:17.000 seen or heard them fly at night. And they had 232 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:22.759 two jets going to try to intercept this object. And 233 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:26.759 as soon as they came in earshot, because once you 234 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:31.640 hear them, they're already past you. Whatever that was that 235 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:36.279 we've been watching left them so fast that they just 236 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.960 had to do a U turn and go back into base. 237 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:46.599 That's how fast that UFO was. Our fastest jets could 238 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:51.880 not even come close to making contact with it. So 239 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:57.160 whatever these Pentagon photographs and stuff that they're showing right now, 240 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:02.559 they're just toying with us by letting themselves be photographed, 241 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:09.599 because these are the fastest jets we have and they 242 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:14.279 couldn't even come close to it. It left them so fast. 243 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:19.319 I'm stupified that people still doubt the fact that these 244 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:25.119 things exist. There's so much evidence and so many intelligent 245 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:30.599 people that have seen them, and they still there's people 246 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:37.240 out there that just I think they absolutely love living 247 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.079 in denial. I mean, we've got the proof. We've had 248 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.400 the proof, and the Pentagon sits on it, our government 249 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:50.519 sits on it, NASA sits on it. And of course, 250 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:55.079 I mean, I know thousands and thousands of your listeners 251 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:01.119 already know this, but these things have been around since 252 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:04.640 biblical times. This is not a new thing. This is 253 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:09.119 not a new phenomena. I mean early recorded history, as 254 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:13.759 we have all the way back to Ezekiel, they've existed. 255 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.759 I mean, I don't know how much more proof people won't. 256 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.599 Well exactly, Yeah, they go back in history fifty years ago. 257 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.240 Our jets couldn't keep up with them, and they sure 258 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:26.920 as how can catch up with them now. 259 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:31.759 No, they can't. It's impossible. And it makes me doubt 260 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:37.160 some of this footage that they've released. Just you know, 261 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:41.799 I don't care about the moon landing. I don't know 262 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:45.000 if we landed on the Moon or not. Honestly, I 263 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:49.440 could care less. But they saw something on the Moon 264 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:55.480 and whatever they saw scared them. But Jesus out of them, you. 265 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:57.920 Know, they weren't the same when they came back with Ain't. 266 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:01.799 No, they were not. And there was a Ham radio 267 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:10.119 operator that was able to intercept Apollo and Houston. You know, 268 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:15.200 they had they had private communication systems set up between 269 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:21.519 Armstrong and Mission Control, and they were talking about being 270 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:26.720 observed while they were on the Moon. And my gosh, 271 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:31.160 they've got pictures of man made structures up there. I mean, 272 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:36.559 who cares about a footprint, whether Stanley Kubrick or whoever 273 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:41.880 made it, or if we actually landed, that's not that's 274 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:47.839 not the story. What was up there when they got 275 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:54.079 there is the story. There was something already there, and 276 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:58.319 that's what they're trying to hide from people. I mean, 277 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:02.359 we got smart people in that, so I'm not discrediting 278 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:07.559 them for being smart. I mean the rocket scientists, for 279 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:12.759 goodness sake, have we been lied to? You bet? You 280 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:16.160 bet your last dollar. We've been lied to, and not 281 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:20.160 just by the US, but by the Soviets, by China, 282 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:26.160 by every nation involved as far as space technology goes. 283 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:31.400 The citizens of this world have been lied to. And 284 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:36.680 it's just how much life can you digest before you 285 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.160 say enough? And people say, well, what are you going 286 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.920 to do? What are you going to do about it? Well? 287 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.680 I like to know the truth. 288 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.200 Exactly much has been hidden from us, and judging over 289 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.400 the you know, the last few years where so many 290 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.799 conspiracy faaries seem to be coming true. Yeah, so I 291 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:56.400 certainly hope I don't go to the grave without finding 292 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.759 out there's much. So I'd like to know. Thank you 293 00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:02.799 Melissa for sharing all that that there's two fascinating encounters 294 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:07.039 you had the one in nineteen seventy four that was close, 295 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.400 and that was a large object. 296 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:14.279 A huge, huge object. There is nothing that we had 297 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.359 that could have moved like that. Trust me. I was 298 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.039 at Fort Bragg, I lived at Fort Bragg for over 299 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:26.599 three years, and I have seen just about every every 300 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.359 type of plane. I've never been to Area fifty one. 301 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:34.000 I don't know what kind of technology they have out there, 302 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:39.920 but as far as military aircraft, and I've seen a 303 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:43.240 lot of what we have. And this is in the 304 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:49.160 eighties and nineties we had nothing like that. And this 305 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:53.440 was in seventy seventy four. We didn't have anything like that, 306 00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:57.160 and I know the Dagam Soviets didn't have anything like 307 00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:57.680 that that. 308 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.839 There's just a share size of it. You said, half 309 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.640 a football field to what's that one hundred and fifty 310 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.039 feet fifty yards? 311 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:12.640 Yeah, easily, and that's with and link. I mean that's huge. 312 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.119 I mean it was swallowed as whole. But it saw 313 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:20.880 those reflectors and it thought it was a runway. That's 314 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:24.880 what my logic says. They thought they had build a 315 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:28.720 runway and they were checking it out. Now what they 316 00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:34.599 are I don't know. But it was nothing like Close 317 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:39.640 Encounters of the Third time. It didn't look like anything 318 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:40.559 from that movie. 319 00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:43.319 I mean, of course, I'm gonna say. Closing Cannas came 320 00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:46.319 out three four years later. Yeah, do you remember what 321 00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:48.720 as an eleven year old you remember what went for 322 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.440 your mind when this was happening and what it was. 323 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.319 Well, Like I told you before, I grew up in 324 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:01.240 a house that was extremely paranormal, so I was well 325 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:06.839 adjusted to extreme possibilities. You grow up in a home 326 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.200 that's like that. I mean, I knew Ed and Lorraine Warren. 327 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.480 They had to help us. There's a lot of people 328 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:18.240 that think their phony. If you think Ed Lorraine or phony, 329 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.480 you're an idiot. Those are two of the finest people 330 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.680 that ever walked this earth. And if it hadn't been 331 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.759 for those two people, our family would have lost, We 332 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:32.119 would have lost our minds. That that's how bad our 333 00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:35.519 house was. So all these people out there saying that 334 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:39.240 Ed Lorraine Warren were phonies and fakes and they were 335 00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:41.799 in it for the money. They don't know. They're asked 336 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.200 from a hole in the ground. Pardon my language, but 337 00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.680 they don't know what they're talking about. But I grew 338 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.319 up in a situation to where I had to accept 339 00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:59.680 extreme possibilities, and yet it makes you strong. You don't 340 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.960 have or in the corner. You either face your worst 341 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.400 fears or you go crazy. And I wasn't about to 342 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.640 go crazy. My faith is too strong to allow me 343 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:17.039 to do that. I'm a devoted Christian. I believe in God. 344 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:21.599 I believe in Christ and whatever's up there, they were 345 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.200 created by God. I believe that with all my heart. 346 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.480 Whether they be demonic, I don't know, but I don't 347 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:34.160 think they wish us goodwill. I am scared of you, folks. 348 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:40.279 I always have been, because there's no logic to explain them. 349 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.400 We can't touch them. If they've had an accident, if 350 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:49.400 they've crashed, it's been on their own own error. And 351 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.000 how can you believe what the government says when we've 352 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:58.039 got a government there's nothing but liars. So I've been 353 00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:03.240 open minded. I'm very logical. I'm a skeptic. I don't 354 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.960 just assume something's paranormal or something that's strange in the 355 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.880 skies of UFO. I'm not like that. But I'm not 356 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.400 going to sit there and if you tell me something 357 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.599 and just assume that you're a liar. What happened to 358 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.920 Betty and Barney Hill. Those people were telling the truth, 359 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.319 but because they were an interracial couple, people looked down 360 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.240 their noses on them and didn't want to believe them. 361 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.480 How many polygraphs did they take and their stories stayed 362 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.279 the same. I mean, what more does people have to 363 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.079 do for people to believe in them? And just think 364 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:47.000 people are closed off because they're terrified. They're terrified of 365 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.839 what they can't explain. And those are the people that 366 00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.400 will listen to this show and they'll sit back and 367 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:58.680 they'll laugh, and they'll call people names, and they'll be 368 00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:05.440 rude and be sarcastic. But what I've told you is 369 00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:09.559 God is my witness. What I've told you today is 370 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.480 the God's honest truth. People can believe it or I 371 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:17.400 cannot believe it. It don't matter to me whether they 372 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.920 believe it or not. I lived it. I know what happened. 373 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.359 Well, that's exactly you know. I'm very fortunate on this 374 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.680 show that a lot of the listeners, you know, they 375 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.920 ire open minded. Like you said about it, Betty and 376 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.920 Bonnie Hill, you know, they had everything to lose, they 377 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.400 had nothing to really gain from ever coming out, and 378 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.920 they just shared what happens to them and what they saw, 379 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:40.039 what they experienced. 380 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.119 And people think the South is prejudice. Where Betty and 381 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.279 Barney Hill were at there was more prejudice up north 382 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.960 where they came from than anywhere down here. In the South. 383 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.000 Down here in the South is where all these things 384 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:59.160 are seen because all the dag of nuclear plants are 385 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.720 down here. You look up the Tennessee Valley Authority and 386 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:09.160 count how many nuclear plants are under the TVA's control, 387 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.920 and you'll see why so many UFO sidings happen in 388 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.559 the TVA. You know, Roosevelt. President Roosevelt is who created 389 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.759 the Tennessee Valley Authority. But we're not as prejudice at 390 00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.880 Hatefield as people make us up to be. In Hollywood. 391 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.279 Betty and Barney Hill would have probably been a lot 392 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:36.319 more accepted down here than what they were up north, 393 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:40.519 because up north in this country, especially in that time period, 394 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.920 they were a bit more conceited. Up there, they were 395 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:49.720 looked down upon because intellectually that was just not possible. 396 00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:53.400 Go to New Orleans. Go to New Orleans and talk 397 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:57.319 about UFOs. Go to New Orleans and talk about the paranormal. 398 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.799 You're not going to get laughed at. I promise you that. 399 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.960 Do you have an interest in the paranormal, then you'll 400 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.839 love the unexnetwork dot com. The x is your streaming 401 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:22.680