Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday. Thursday's the
day we talk about pop culture and Bravo and I
have a new friend here. It's comedian Laurie Alterman. Laurie
is a funny comedian who talks about Bravo TV pop culture,
and she's like me, and she's too old to give
a book. So welcome Laurie.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's an honor and a privilege.
Speaker 1: Am I older than you?
Speaker 2: No? Were they exact? I don't know if we were
born the same day. But i'm you know, a little
shy of fifty eight? Me too, Yeah, but damn we
look good many us.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you getting to be this age.
I don't feel what I thought this age would be.
I feel i'd be other than like, you know, my
hip and my knee and my and I feel pretty good. Now.
If you're a Libra, I'm gonna die. Are you a Libra?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I am a true blue scorpio.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm Libra scorpio CUSP. So that's right. We're bonding.
Speaker 2: Were bonding right now in front of all these beautiful people.
Speaker 1: You guys are if you're not watching on YouTube. Please
watch on YouTube. I was just telling Laurie that I
went to YouTube to download something we TV sent me
about their new show Agent Appropriate. Then YouTube made me
join Premium, which I paid sixteen dollars, and then it
won't let me have the download. So if anybody knows
how I can get that download, will you please DM
me because I'd like to have it, But no, it
stays at YouTube. What's the point.
Speaker 2: What's the point of any of it? Mary Payne? Any
of it?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's okay, you're right, you're right, all right. Here's
what we're here to talk about. Now. On your Instagram,
you're so funny and you talk about like what's happening
to Bravo News and pop culture, So we have a
lot of things in common. Now some of the shows
you like, I'm like, I don't know how you're watching it.
So let's go through it.
Speaker 2: Let's go do it. Okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, Bravo in the news. Okay, So Ava
Dash from in the City was seeing kissing Kyle Cook. Yes, ma'am, okay,
speaking of age difference. What's that age difference?
Speaker 2: So Ava's coming in at a cool twenty six, mister
Cook is forty two forty three, so maybe they have
another chance on another.
Speaker 3: Reality show the age Appropriate.
Speaker 1: On we Yeah, uh huh, are inappropriate? I think it's
called age inappropriate. It's not airing to August. Okay, So
all right, was this a drunken makeout or was this
they're trying to launch something new. Ava's trying to get
herself onto Summerhouse.
Speaker 2: Fair question. So right now, Eva is one of the
stars of In This City, which I think is the
best reality TV show on Bravo TV.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Ava is Ava is Next Gen Next Gen. Okay, now, listen,
I don't even watch either one of these shows, but
I was like, wait a minute, jump over in the City. Okay,
I don't watch either once of that I want to
hear I want to hear you talk about this. Okay.
Speaker 2: So it's I interchange them because In the City and
Next Gen NYC are shot in one of my favorite cities,
New York, and they're just two really good shows. But
Next Gen is that girl. It is checking all of
the boxes that mommy needs for reality TV, and Ava
Dash is one of its stars. Now we know that
Kyle Cook is one of the stars of Summer House,
as we speak, Summer House is filming it's eleventh season
in the Hampton's in a new house, and there's a
lot of great Mary Payning crossovers, which I love. Ava
Dash is one of those many crossovers that we're going
to be seeing on this season of Summerhouse. And was
it a drunk hookup? I don't know. Maybe the first
one we know of was the premiere of Next Gen,
which wasn't too long ago. And we all know that
Kyle Cook after his glow up, is having a hot
boys summer, so I don't think it's anything too deep.
Kyle Cook's also canodling with Sally Carson from my favorite
reality TV show, Southern Charms, So I don't think it's
that deep with Ava, Let's hope not. Because she's younger
than my daughter's.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, right, So I also love Southern Charm and
that leads me to a question that's way down my list,
But we got to talk about it now. How did
you get to interview miss pat and tell me everything?
Speaker 2: Wow, So be careful what you wish for because your
heart might not be able to handle it. Patricia started
following me on TikTok and became a fan of what
I was doing because I was obsessed with Southern charm.
Speaker 3: We just had this flirtation back and forth.
Speaker 2: Met at Bravo con and she really is like a
mother to.
Speaker 3: Me, except I don't think she put me in the will.
Speaker 2: And we planned on hanging at some point in Charleston,
and that point came last month. I guess it was May, though,
May where I was able to go to Miss Patricia's home,
and let me tell you something, it was spectacular. She's
more beautiful in person. The house is incredible. We have
the best time on and off camera getting to know
each other. I just she's amazing. I love her to death.
She has a new book out. It's funny as hell,
it's inspirational, and i'd like to consider.
Speaker 3: Her family that I actually like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love all that. I'm a huge Southern term
fan because I'm Southern myself. I'm from the name, I'm
from Georgia, I'm from Mississippi. Girl, look at that. I
told you on that. I told you yesterday. I was like,
I think we're going to be friends. I think we're
going to be friends. We got a lot in common,
and I've always been kind of obsessed with her, and
I just love I love the kaftan life. I aspire
funny story of the kaftan life.
Speaker 2: Yes, listen to this ship. Okay, So I love kalf cans.
Who And I was about to go away on a
trip and I say to her off camera, this is
too good to be true.
Speaker 3: I say, well, listen, I love your calf cans, but I.
Speaker 2: Can't seem to like find anything even similar, like dubes
or anything. And she says, I can reach out to Oscar.
I'm like, how about a little lower than Oscar de
la Reente? She because we'll also dolce. I went, Miss
pat can do you have a link on Amazon?
Speaker 1: Do you target? Target?
Speaker 2: I mean, they're stunning, stunning, and she's ninety feet, she's thin,
she looks, she's amazing, and so the calfcans are a
great look for her. But I won't be wearing an
Oscar unless Oscar you're watching and you want to midlife
funny girl to rock your stuff. Yeah, I don't think
Oscar's looking for any promotion.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I will say Trina Turk
makes some great kaftans, really good. I had to be
Miss Patricia in a skit one time and I got
a brown wig and I wore my Trina turk calf tin.
Speaker 2: And I felt I nailed it. Yeah yeah, you nailed
it if you were the dupe version.
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Now I want to talk to you at this because
you're kind of obsessed with it, and I'm obsessed with it,
which is Tom Sands of all the girlfriend and flipping
the dad into the fire pit. I'm never gonna get
over it. Flipped an old man right into a firepit.
I lit fire pet.
Speaker 2: And she got arrested. So and she got arrested, so upset.
So I was team Tom sanderfal I love my bra celebrities.
I'm rooting for almost all of them. I thought he
was having somewhat of a redemption arc. I found his
music to be brilliant. Touch in Public's one of my
favorite of all times. I loved him on the Treasures
and when this happened, He's not going to come back.
Speaker 3: From this, you know.
Speaker 2: Sources say, well, I'll tell you this. When I was
at Bravocon, I'm staying at the hotel. Obviously they're all
staying in and it's late night. There's all this commotion
and some of us know the story. Tommy and the
girl come in. They start really fighting. Lindsey Hubbard enters
the chat, tries to break it up. They deny that
the any fighting or anything physical. Well, it has been
for a while. He has reportedly been scared of her.
He has been paying, allegedly for.
Speaker 3: Both her and her dad to live. I don't know
if that's true.
Speaker 2: And then they had this horrible altercation which was caught,
lucky for you and me, on closed circuit TV. And yes,
did he push him purposely in a fire pit? According
to my old eyes, No, I think that Tom went
to the girlfriend and said, are you recording this? He
got a little close. Dad had some instinct to protect
his daughter. One over grabbed Tom by his little musical
genius shoulders, and Tom turned I think it was human
instinct and pushed him he happened to fall and a
lit fire pit. I don't think Tom and his ex
are going to come back from this, and I don't
think Tom is either.
Speaker 1: It's really bad because people were like, hey, you know
what would be fun? We got all Sandalal and his
girlfriend over there on the valley, and I'm like, okay,
not now, not now. No, I didn't shoot Rock on
the valley, asa. I just watched a video of Rock
redoing his entire driveway and installing a movable black iron
gate like remote. I was like, somebody give this man
a SHETV show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 1: He doesn't do it for me. I like, I just like,
I just like Shena, and I just I'm always rooting
for Sena.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm rooting for Shena. I'm not a huge Valley fan,
although I absolutely adore Tom Schwartz, But the Valley to me,
or a bunch of older people who can only hang
out if they're drunk, the storylines don't capture me. And
I just I don't know. It's not.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's suppressing, but it is what's happening in that
time of life for a lot of people that are
in that time frame. It gets rough. It gets rough
around the time.
Speaker 2: I want to see that. I want to see fabulous
people doing fabulous things that I can't do.
Speaker 1: Right, I understand. I love the Valley because I'm such
a die hard Day one vander pump rolls stand that
you can't you can't shock me with a piece of trivia, Like,
I love it, and I've leaned right into the Valley
and I want only the best for the Valley. I
I gotta say, I'd like to see Jack's back on
the screen, not with Brittany pretending that rehab helped him.
Speaker 2: That's what I liked. Oh, there's a few bra celebrities
I never want to see again, and he is one
of them.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I just think that, uh, I
don't know who he would film with, though, I guess Jason.
Jason likes him.
Speaker 2: Listen, I like, this is my first Valley, it's my season,
and I like someone that I'm getting hell for. But
I like me some Janet.
Speaker 1: I love Janet Janet, guess what. Just like all the
Bravo shows that we watch, eventually the villain turns into
the person that was telling the truth the whole time.
Speaker 3: Most of the time, You're right, and it dead for her.
Speaker 2: I love Janet.
Speaker 1: I love Janet too. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: You know who else I'm obsessed with on the Valley
Who Nia's little baby with the orange rooster hair. Look.
I don't like babies or kids, or people or plants
or actually anything that's living, but this baby. Something about
this baby, I just want to.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, she's so cute. You know. Danny and
Nia have the sun Asher, and then they have the twins,
and then they have this baby Adelaide. The twins are
on suddenly Sheldon becoming Sheldon wasn't so young Sheldon. The
twins are on that show. So those twins are supporting
the whole family.
Speaker 2: Basically, yes they are. And listen again. My first season
of the Valley, This Danny.
Speaker 1: Disgusting, disgusting. I met him at Bravo con uh and
he was so he was he was so smarmy, and
I was like, I'm so and I was just trying
to like chat and ask a question, and then he
was I was like, okay, bye, I gotta go. I'd
rather go, let me go find Janet, get out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not surprising.
Speaker 1: Didn't enjoy him Okay, Ultimate Girls Trip Road Trip is
coming out in August. Some people are real like shitting
on it, not excited about it. It's stupid. It's I
was like, I can't fucking wait. I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I'm an addict. Okay, so I'm a junkie and I'm
always going to go in for my fix. It may
not get me off, it may not get high, but
I'm going to take a few licks.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want it to work.
Speaker 2: I want it to work me too, you know what.
I'm a bitter old lady and not much puts a
smile on my face at this point, Mary pain. And
if it can and I would appreciate it, but if
it can't, I will make really big fun of it online.
Speaker 1: Are we ever getting Ultimate Girls Trip? Morocco? Is there
any world that we're going to ever get to see
this show?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why can't they stream it? Why did they say if
you really want it, you could pay one hundred dollars
to watch it?
Speaker 2: Well, they would make say that, they would.
Speaker 1: Make a million dollars.
Speaker 2: I said that about a lot of things. I've said,
why don't they pay perview? Some shit take take behind
the scenes and lost footage of the Summerhouse reunion pay
perview it I would get along for some of this
stuff that never airs. Now when I'm thrilled about Marry
pain is although and I think it was a big mistake.
Speaker 3: They can't sold you know, Ladies of London. They're bringing
back the other.
Speaker 1: One, and you know, I'm devastated. I'm devastated, devastated.
Speaker 2: Devastated, but this may be good. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: So this is Real Housewives of London and from it.
Speaker 2: Was on Hey You and July fourteenth, I think we're
going to have it on Bravo.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's already aired in London we're going to
get on. So they've already seen it and now we're
going to get it.
Speaker 2: Well it's not even just London, it's Hey You, which
I could never get my head around to work again
old and can't figure out technology. I tried to watch it,
but now we can.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is going to be Real Housewives of
London that already aired over there season one and now
we're gonna get it because maybe the season two they'll
air simultaneously.
Speaker 2: Because I think they thought this Bravo team, listen, this
is what we already have. This is gold. We don't
need these. I don't know, but again, I'm an addict,
so I'm gonna take a bite. Effect Yeah, I mean
I'll watch it.
Speaker 1: I mean don't. I mean, there's no question I'll watch it.
But I guess I just don't even understand. I mean,
I'm still gonna watch it, so I don't. I don't
understand the logistics of it. So you're telling me we've
got Ultimate Girls, trip Oc and this London show all
coming out around the same time.
Speaker 2: It's a good time to be alive. I know. And
what I would tell you is this next gen n
y C. It's good stuff. So all of that makes
me happy. And I'm also a big fan and real
friendly with and maybe going to hang with the cast
of McBee Dynasty. Do you go down to Missouri and
do you watch me Dynasty? Married Payne?
Speaker 1: I don't, And I know, I know that it's good
and that there's lots And what I love about a
show is when that it goes uh, it goes into
the real world and it gets real messy ill Tom
Sanderbal That's what I enjoy. If I ever have an
extra like twelve hours, I know that I can watch it,
but or my joke always is if I have a
major surgery or end up in the hospital, I'll have
time and that will be one of the shows. But
because I cover so much other stuff, I cover so
much ninety day fiance and all this stuff, and I
have to write turn by turn notes, not just general chatting,
so I never have time to pick up a new show.
Although last night I found myself with like a few
hours and I watched the Netflix documentary I'm just so
like months behind, but I watched Bring Me the Beauties
about this guy who was like a model and started
a cult and said he was an alien. Did you Wars?
Speaker 4: That was so I love cults me too, I mean
love them and have been trying to start one and
have a friend that I found out was in one.
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna be on her podcast when I'm in
LA next week. Whitney Lynn to me, a good cult
documentary is better than.
Speaker 3: I tell my husband, I mean good.
Speaker 2: Have you watched Gloryville?
Speaker 1: Okay, so Gloriavelle, Gloryvelle whatever popped up and I go, okay,
I know that was a little more recent, so let
me go back to when I missed, which is the
bring Me the Beauties. So I'm writing this down Gloryvale I.
Speaker 2: Love, and then there's so many like legs from that
that you can like watch different documentaries about I love
a cult.
Speaker 3: I think they get such a bad wrap.
Speaker 1: What's what's your favorite cult?
Speaker 2: I loved she had a blue face.
Speaker 1: Mother God, Mother God. Oh she had a blue face.
That was so good, so good Mother God was good.
Or you know, it's it's a toss up for me
between Nexium and the Rashness and Wildwall Country.
Speaker 2: So my problem with Nexium is the grainy way it
was shot, and it was kind of old and there
was something about.
Speaker 3: The way they filmed it.
Speaker 2: If I'm being picky about my cult, docus no, I love,
I love me some Nexium.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Well, I just enjoyed Wild Wild Country because
of the naked dancing and screaming that they would do
very I just thought I was like, because it was
the it was the sixties seventies, and they were like,
we're all just gonna get nacked in whoo. I thought
that was crazy, and that I loved the chopped up
beavers in the city water durable.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to take down a city that's.
Speaker 1: Some beaver or I believe they sprinkled like a little
anthrax on their salad bar at the Ponderosa.
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of colts, do you plathfill? You do? Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, Laurie, this is going to be now that's it.
Now we can't talk about anything else, okay, because besides
Vader pump Rules, I'm an expert on plathfill. I'm currently
in my third rewatch. So I watched it all the
way through as it you know, as people do, as
it was on, and then I just for funzies with
just like a lot of people just put on a Housewives,
I just put it on a platfim.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So now on my pay feed, I'm doing a rewatch
with one of my co hosts, Keisha. Now, Keisha is
black and she has named when we discussed it, she
calls it whitey Wednesday because she's never seen so many,
so many white people like with such emotional problems all
in one group at a time, and it's upsetting. So
I'm in my third rewatch. We're on season four now.
And what is so crazy is that if you go
back and watch and you kind of forget, like, oh,
forgot about Max? Max remember he like banged.
Speaker 2: About any of it? It's always running in my head
Mary Pain.
Speaker 1: And then as we're watching it, Aikesha's like, are we
ever going to find out? Like what Max did? I go, God,
I can't fucking remember, but we'll find out next week.
And it's sort of like she says, I don't want
even though he puts out some sort of scathing video
about her and her family, She's like, I don't want
to say exactly what he did. And I was like
why at this point, why I think he got like
a hand job from a fifty year old lady.
Speaker 2: I think, are you accusing me of something? Not with Max,
with Micah, maybe Micah old Micah before the nose.
Speaker 1: I gotta say new Mike's hot too, because he's a
little dirty and I like.
Speaker 2: He is and he's not asking with this family.
Speaker 1: Nope, he said, I am contractually obligated to be on
two episodes, and I will be on two episodes.
Speaker 2: You know, I had Olivia on.
Speaker 1: I've had Olivia on. Listen, I'll one up you. I've
had I'll have I'll one up you. I've had lunch
with Olivia she lives where I live in d C.
And so we met at a place in Alexander where
I live, and we had lunch because we we've I've
had her, I've had them on together twice. I've had
her on three or four times. And I'm trying to
get her on to talk about this rewatch because her thing,
her thing now is anything. She'll say flat out, I
will talk to you up to season seven because that
was my lived experience. I won't talk about season eight.
And I'm like, fine, I want to talk about season four,
and she's like, we've already talked about season four. I
was like, let's talk about it again. So Keisha's just
dying to have her on because Keisha's like has a
not obviously that was Kesha had a similar family experience
where she was sort of shunned from a family and
she just sort of wants to like kind of misery
dig in. But she's Elivi's traveling the world, she's doing
her thing, she's got like try groups, and.
Speaker 2: She's still with the guy. M good like that. Well,
that's the.
Speaker 1: Last time I talked to her. She was still with
the guy and they live in Arlington and he's got
a wonderful family that's not trying to change her or
tell her what toothpaste to use, and that's good.
Speaker 2: You know, this season was strange for me, Mary Payne,
because yeah, I was like reporting on it, hating on
them and annoyed. And then all of a sudden, I
don't know if it's menopause. There's just not enough sleep
or oxygen into my brain. I started to have feelings for.
Speaker 1: Them, which ones old family.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, so it Kim and Win.
Speaker 1: No, Kim got you through the TV. Kim did something
to you through the TV. And like she did, I
don't because the.
Speaker 2: Dead kids she ran over in the therapy.
Speaker 1: Nope, so she that's all performative.
Speaker 2: This is why this is a good cult documentary because
I'm on the outside. You don't buy.
Speaker 1: It, No, because remember what Lydia said on that podcast
she went on the Dugger podcast, or just remember what
she said. Now they brought it up on camera to
shame her. Now, Lydia is a creation of Kim. Kim
created Lydia. But then when Kim decided she want to
have some Margarita as an escort, Now, Lydia is a problem. True,
So and what Olivia said to me, because I said
to Olivia, like whatever the season was, I said, I
don't understand how she was so horrible to Mariah all
these years, and now she's like Mariah is the only
one that understands me, and she goes because she uses
whatever child is good for her at that time to
and that's what she's doing right now with Ethan, with Isaac,
they pump her up, so she's using them, and she's
against Lydia because Lydia is not buying her bullshit anymore?
Speaker 2: Am I a plaid?
Speaker 1: I'm concerned you could dye that hair blonde and move
right in. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I was just started to I felt like when
Lydia's husband Zach was acting up, I felt protective of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got fair pay, that's fair, But let me
tell you this last season, we felt terrible for Zach
for the way he was treated. I'll even I'll even
play you something that's on my soundboard over here that will.
Speaker 2: Give you love.
Speaker 3: Plath audio.
Speaker 1: Okay, plath audio. I need to go to Cara, Go
to Caro. Okay, here we go. Here's something you'll really like, Lucy.
Pull it up. It's Ethan. Where is it?
Speaker 3: Okay, here it is God is his sick.
Speaker 2: Of his I think he's gay. I think he's gay.
Speaker 1: So they treated Zach terribly, horribly, and we find out
later that the night before the wedding, after he and
said are you gay? Do you like women? How come
you don't stick it in? And then poor Mike is like, uh,
gay people are great.
Speaker 2: I don't understand the problem with gay people.
Speaker 1: And so after that they pulled Lydia to a porch,
made him stay inside, and the whole family, not Barry
but Kim and Ethan and whoever else like verbally attacked her. Yeah,
the night before her wedding.
Speaker 2: And I did it was the worst night of her life, worst.
Speaker 1: Night of her life. So she gets married the next day.
So I did a screen recording of her singing at
her own wedding and sent it to Olivia and said, no,
actually she said it on my show. I had her
on my show. I said, have you ever seen somebody
sing at their own wedding? And she said yes, because
Hosannah did it at her wedding.
Speaker 2: Ooh, now, remind the pretty people who Hosannah is.
Speaker 1: Hosannah rip never to be seen after the first episode
because Olivia said that Hosannah wanted the entire show to
be about her and her husband, and when the production
came in and realized the real story here was Ethan
and Olivia, Hoseanna said, I will not be a part
of it. I'm moving to Ohio.
Speaker 2: Should we need boots on the ground in Ohio? Me
and you?
Speaker 1: I just somebody's got to get somebody's got to get
with that girl she was at She wasn't Lydia's wedding.
Blurred out.
Speaker 3: What kind of pie does she like? Maybe I'll send
her a pie.
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for a pie, apple, apple, hot apple
with I think not webcream. I think yeah, vanilla ice.
Speaker 1: She's basic now, she was not allowed to have sugar
growing up. Now, Kim, she missed that train.
Speaker 2: You You don't buy what was your name? Doctor Tanya?
Am I that good? The therapist? Dr? Tie? Dr Tie?
I'm not that good. You're better take you don't buy
those sessions?
Speaker 1: Oh I buy it? Yeah, I listen. She's sad. This
is a terrible thing that happened.
Speaker 2: She ran over her own now she has a lot
of them, to be fair, but you don't get over that.
Speaker 1: I that's there's two situations. I feel for Kim that one.
Speaker 2: And having to sleep with Barry and Ken.
Speaker 1: Well the Ken is k.
Speaker 2: K, how do you all right? Morning?
Speaker 1: Ken says, I got some slave memorabilia to Celia, you're
a liberally, it's terrible. The second the second thing I
feel bad for her about. There's two That, of course
is a terrible tragedy. You can't you make fun of it.
There's nothing to joke about it. It's awful. The other
thing is in season seven when Barry comes over to
her h house that she had no business renting, and
he comes over and she's like, listen, you know you're
not giving me half the money. I'm doing hard and
I'm a part time server at the Georgios, and I
just I'm going to need some money. And he goes, yeah,
that's tough. It's rough. It's too bad for you. Let
me tell you something else I have with the ready
that you will really appreciate. And this is something that
I just have on my desktop and uh, let's see
if I can pull it up quickly. Oh yeah, here
it is. Okay, Just so just as a never forget
this is never just never forget, just never.
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, I'm telling you never forget.
Speaker 1: So okay, that was her mugshot. If you're on watching.
Speaker 2: YouTube, Okay, you run over your child, God forbid? Uh huh,
you might become an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: And drive drunk twelve years later.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, if you never got help and you had
fifty other kids and you had to bang very yeah.
Speaker 1: Now. My co host for this current season was Kimberly
of a Date with Dayline, my friend, and she felt
herself having the tingles in her nether regions for Barry.
Speaker 2: It's true, I would rather bang kun. I would. I would.
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Did she get the tingleys when she saw bicep Berry
and the sauna with Zach? Is that when she was like,
I gotta have me.
Speaker 1: Some of it was, uh, it was a boot camp.
It was when Plath Daddy. She had the tingles for
Plath Daddy.
Speaker 2: She did she initiate that she was honest because I've
had crushes on Let me think of the craziest crush
I've had on a reality TV person.
Speaker 1: For I used to be so hot for Jack Click
season one, No Judgment, and I met him and he
was horrible to me. I mean, as you would expect,
but so probably that's why I liked him.
Speaker 2: But who am I. That's an unpopular thing.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be like very Plath level to compete.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go through a few Okay, uh.
Speaker 3: This is not it's not even close.
Speaker 2: But he's definitely not the most popular person. But I
love me some Craig Kanho for he and you know what,
I like him when he's heated me too. Okay, well,
I mean he's generally hot, but I mean it's not
very Plath level, but not everybody. And when I talk
to the rest of the cast of Southern Charmed, you like,
you're wrong, You're crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I like so.
Speaker 1: I like his when he's sweaty and adderalled up and
like real mad.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he is just I don't love
him per se when he's sewing.
Speaker 1: I like a bad boy.
Speaker 2: Who what's the show? What are the shows on? And
someone that is just so repulsive.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, what are you into any of
the real Housewlaws of Rhode Island Husbands? Because there was
some goes on there. In my opinion, I can't stomach
that show. Why why?
Speaker 2: It's the same reason I don't f with Real Housewives
of New Jersey, Mary Payne. I do not want to
watch TV to see houses that are gross. Fashion that's cheesy,
fights that are stupid. It's just swept away in Beverly Hills. Okay, Orange,
but your accents make me nuts. I find it.
Speaker 3: I find it below my pay grade.
Speaker 1: Really, So you don't want to crack A No, I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to crack and I don't care about somema.
Speaker 1: No. Okay, that's a hot take because.
Speaker 2: And I definitely don't want to ask any of the
men on.
Speaker 1: There, no, no, no, no, none are the Only one
that's kind of cute is Joellen's husband.
Speaker 2: I don't mind her.
Speaker 1: I like her. I like her a lot because I
don't mind her. She's bringing the receipts. I like the
girl that I like a girl that goes through a
court document.
Speaker 2: The rest of them. Whatever do you like New Jersey?
I can't stand New Jersey.
Speaker 1: I'm not a Teresa fan. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: She is one person that I was just offered to
be on my show. I said, never can stand her.
Speaker 1: Well, Bravo, you can reach out to me because I'll
take anybody. Okay, Also, OC, how do you feel about
oc sheep outfits and terrible houses.
Speaker 2: You can't okay, you can't compare it to First of all,
I have a California thing and a real love for it.
And it is familiar and it feels old to me
and nostalgic, and they do go to some fancy places
and the fashion sometimes work.
Speaker 3: I like, oh see, I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1: I like Vicky and I know that's an unpopular opinion.
Speaker 2: No, she's a staple, I get it, she says.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's another thing I want to talk to you about.
Mackenzie Shula.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You see the you see her latest fashion
mugshot yesterday she took a present selfie. By the way,
her lips are fuller than ours. I don't know how
she has a sunburn. Her hair looks better than mine.
Speaker 1: Is it a filter?
Speaker 2: No, it's so messed up.
Speaker 1: She's having a great time in prison.
Speaker 2: I keep making these videos that she's like summer camp
study abroad.
Speaker 3: She's so not in prison.
Speaker 2: And if you ever I don't know if you have kids,
but if you've ever felt like a horrible.
Speaker 1: Parent, I mean daily I feel like marble parents, then
compass when I listen to those jail calls and her
mom is like, oh my gosh, so what do you
do in net Oak? You're Oak. You're going to the yard.
That's gonna be so fun. Tell Susie Q and Big Bertha.
I said, hi girl, what are you doing? Oh? And
then she's like, mom, can you call the prison and
tell them? Like my mattress's so hard? Like god, mom,
And Mom's like, no, you're an adult in prison. I
can't call them until you. I mean, it's she doesn't
understand that she's in prison for a very long time.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the families of the two people she unlived? Yeah?
I uh, she's despicable.
Speaker 1: Listen you guys, people watch the crash. There's so much
more to listen to. You can listen to Annie Elsa's podcast. Seriously,
she's got a lot of this stuff on there. I
did not know until I listen to that podcast. So
you could just go on YouTube and listen to all
the jail calls that you want.
Speaker 2: It's a thing. Wow. I have a lot on my
pages too, of be reacting to them.
Speaker 1: Just her, like, God, mom, I was talking.
Speaker 2: She's just as adorable. Who and her mom's just as adorable.
Taylor Parker.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I saw that you posted Taylor Parker's prison calls. Okay,
Taylor Parker is the girl from maternal instinct that cut
a baby out of somebody's stomach, killing the mother and the.
Speaker 3: Baby, pretending she was pregnant with the baby.
Speaker 1: Right. I mean, I can't even get to that part
of the story because of the just full on knife
murder of two people that she committed. So she from
our understanding on bad terms with her mother. But now
you're saying, and I hadn't seen this. I saw this
on your page that she and her mom were doing
prison calls, and her mom's like, my girl, Taylor is like,
no biggie, she killed two people.
Speaker 2: There's no shortage of bad parents. It's not bad parents
of sick parents that have sick kids. And yes, the
mother's angler because Taylor is not going to be able
to wear makeup in court and they're gonna look at
her as she isn't polished and shined up, and that's
gonna be the make or break for her prison sentence
for taking her friend's baby out of.
Speaker 1: Her the knife just in the kitchen. I'm gonna performancy
section lay down horrible, horrible, horrible for that family to
have to hear any of that. Now, my sisters were
here with me at the beach a couple of weeks ago,
and for three nights we watched three documentaries and I
told them the theme is going to be and then
I almost said it, and I said no, I'll let
you figure out the theme. So we watched Maternal Instinct,
The Crash, and then we watched Unknown Caller, Unknown Number
of the Catfish, High.
Speaker 2: School Saffish God Won, Mary Pain.
Speaker 1: So we watched all three because I was gonna say
that the theme is obviously bad moms, right, because me
and my sisters were like, we're great mom. So I
didn't say it though, because I didn't want them on
the Catfish one to put together mom, and then you
put it together. So wat now watched that thing three
times because I made my other friends watch it when
they were here, and my one friend within five minutes
was like, oh, that's that lady with the teeth. I
was like, damn it, you ruined it for everybody. But
my sisters didn't figure it out un till close to
the end. They were like, wait a minute, is that
the mom doing that? I was like, does that make
you feel good about being a mom? You're killing it.
We're killing it, well, killing it or not? That was
a bad choice of words. Okay, So Taylor from Maternal Instinct, Okay,
where are you hearing these prison calls? Because I need
to find those.
Speaker 2: You can just google it.
Speaker 3: They're everywhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can download it from any of the platforms.
And my reactions are really in real time. I'm really
hearing it for the first time.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, good, all right, next question, Taylor, Frankie Paul,
you watched All the Mormon Wives. Yes, I assume.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm friendly close with Taylor's mom.
Speaker 3: She's been on my show a few times.
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe we're working on Taylor coming on my show.
Speaker 1: I Laurie, I'm dead, really, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge I am rude.
Speaker 1: Okay, I lost Laurie, but she's going to come back.
So let's just wait. Laurie, I lost you. If you
can hear me, I can't hear you or see you. Okay,
now she's gone, Okay, come back in.
Speaker 2: Okay. Sorry, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I know now you were right telling me. We're still
we're still cry You're Frankie Paul fan.
Speaker 2: Rooting for Taylor Frankie Paul because I know I know
so much about her history, her life. I like her accountability,
I like her vulnerability, and I like that she keeps
it real and her mom's amazing. She gets a lot
of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she got a lot of shit because
she kind of came onto season two with like new face,
new hair, new like God bless as ladies of a
certain age, like I give me the name of your doctor,
like I'm dying.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I don't hate people for looking better. I
actually wish more people did look better than I work.
I'm more offended when people are walking around with a
wonky face.
Speaker 1: I okay, So I covered that show sold on SLC
and she was on it. M h.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I interviewed a couple of the main cast members that show.
I felt like should have gotten a second season chance.
It was it was not It wasn't a bad show.
It was pretty good. It was speaking of gorgeous homes,
gorgeous scenery, gorgeous people. It was very different. I thought
it needed a just one more season chance. But anyway,
I interviewed a couple of the cast members, and I
was fascinated that Taylor's mom was on there. Then after
the show was canceled, they're like and also Dakota works
at that same place. I was like, huh, that ain't
good because I can't imagine Taylor's mom was like friendly
with Dakota.
Speaker 2: She tries to be still, she tries to keep it
for the caseful. Yeah, tough, tough position.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Taylor. She is one of those people
that and I don't really think a lot of people
are like lover or hater. I don't think a lot
of people are hater. I think people are really rooting
for her. And I think that what most people and
this is just me from a you know, I don't
know the family or anything, an outsider point of view
and not even a Bachelorette fan is people just want
her to take a social media break. Yes, and I'm
sure her mother does as well, because if she could
do if she could do that, I understand that it's
eats into her income. You know, I get that, but
I think, how much money do you need? I think
you should take a six month social media break and uh.
Speaker 3: Have a redemption arc. Get your shit together and they
put out The Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't think that Taylor listens to pr
or advice very will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, obviously I was glad to watch the because
I'm a you know, a court junkie as well. I
watched all the proceedings and I was glad that when
they said, you know, both of you need to equally
stay away from each other, which is good because I
think that I do like that she's sort of saying, like,
now I'm on a mission to help women that are
victims of DV and I want to sort of And
that's great. I think it's wonderful to sort of pour
yourself into a platform. But I think she herself, from
what we see in social media, need some healing before.
Speaker 2: She can do that one hundred percent. Mmmm.
Speaker 1: That's that's a downer. Let's see what we can talk
about that's not so upsetting. Do you watch Real Housewives
of Atlanta one of my favorites? Okay? How much? Okay?
Do you love Pinky? I love Pinky Love I love Pinky.
I love looking at her cute face every week.
Speaker 2: My favorite housewife Top three.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Phedra. She's a star. She's a star. And
it's like, if Porscha can forgive her for saying that
somebody got locked in Candy's basement, I can't even remember
now all it's forgiven. How could you not? She's so
funny And that z Way interview clips that are going
around of Porsche, it just shows how quick Porscha is
just to hang with somebody like that.
Speaker 2: So funny. I love this season.
Speaker 1: I love this season. I love Porscha's I love her
journey into this dating this sway, yeah lady, and uh
it is she using this way for her private jet?
I don't know. I don't care, do it? Why not
go for it? Girl?
Speaker 2: These ladies work their asses off, By the way, people
don't really realize it seems like all just glitz and glamour.
It's hard work. They always have these side hustle businesses,
and so if you are with the person to get
right on a private jet.
Speaker 1: Well you know. And the words of Lalla BJ for
a PJ Yeah, okay, who amongst okay? So Angela Oakley
ten out of ten.
Speaker 2: It's good TV.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of them talking about her feet, like, Okay,
we get it.
Speaker 2: She's got to be do you know what they do
on this show that they get away with. Huh. It's
a lot of body shaming, but they may be so funny.
Speaker 1: The minute somebody says like, I don't like the way
you handed me that salt, and now we're going to
have a conversation, it's like, well, your eyebrowsing to hunt
for conversation because you're like.
Speaker 2: Me, I'm an old lady, sir. Are you back in
the day everyone wasn't so nervous and sensitive and pc.
It's funny.
Speaker 3: They're entertainers. They know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Kelly? Because I love Kelly
last season and this season I was upset about the
white T shirt in the confessional. What are you doing?
I don't care if it's I don't care if it's
Oscar Dela Renta. It's a white T shirt dress and
it's not cute. I'm mad about that. I don't like
her as much this season as and I hate when
I turn on somebody.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not turning Mary Payne, We're just turning down.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So you have.
Speaker 2: Friends like that, you have family like You're like, all right,
I'm just not feeling you. I'm not ready to cancel you,
but yeah, she I don't care when she comes on screen.
Speaker 1: Okay, Shemiah loved was so excited when she was on
and let me talk about you were talking about wealth.
I like to love to see some wealth, like some
real some h back.
Speaker 2: That's not Rhode Island, my friend h back wealth.
Speaker 1: I love it, but I think she's doing too she
is too much.
Speaker 2: I'd like to I don't want to turn her down,
but I don't see her. I want her to turn
down a little. Yeah, tell you who I don't miss.
So I can't stand Candy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thought you're gonna say Nini and then
we weren't from where you know, Okay, I was like,
don't say Nini, Candy, Candy. That's also some wealth that
I enjoyed, but I felt like it was all she
was because she's such a professional. She's halfway to an egot.
Speaker 2: I think that she's professional making sex toys.
Speaker 1: But that's fine. Do what you got to do on
the side, Like you said, they all have side hustles.
Speaker 2: You know, her daughter is one of the stars of
Next Gen.
Speaker 1: Oh I know.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: She I felt she was very her whole life was
very produced for the cameras and we weren't seeing the
real what was happening there.
Speaker 2: I don't miss her. I definitely don't miss Todd.
Speaker 1: Nobody misses Todd.
Speaker 2: Do You don't ever heard rumors that him and Cynthia's
ex and some other loser are going to have their
own show that I won't watch.
Speaker 1: Where's that gonna air on YouTube? And then I'm gonna
download it for fifteen dollars and not know where it is?
Speaker 2: You will? I know you you will?
Speaker 1: I eh, Cynthia, I will say you love She doesn't
watch What Happens Live and Andy was like, oh, you're
just doing like you're just redefining this role a friend
of your killing it. She was like, yeah, you wouldn't
have a season without me, like I'm bringing everybody together.
I was like, true, I love the confidence.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: I love Cynthia Bailey gorgeous. I love how she's still
like Lake Bailey.
Speaker 2: She calls it lake Bayley, loves that house. And what
about her pod with Crystal.
Speaker 1: I only see the clips. I only see the clips.
I don't listen. I don't seek it out. I am
I like Crystal and I kind of wish she was
on Beverly Hill.
Speaker 3: Still there's talk.
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, Okay, who's your source? I would have to
kill you. You can't find me. I'm a North Carolina, right.
Speaker 2: I find Jackson to him?
Speaker 3: No, No, that would that would kill you.
Speaker 1: I would be sad.
Speaker 2: No. Here's the thing about Jack's. I want to I
want to everybody to understand.
Speaker 1: When he first came on our screens, I was so
hot for him, back when I still had like hormones
and things going through my body, still felt that way.
I was so hot for him. Now I do understand
he's a horrible, narcissistic, compulsive liar, bad bad person, bad person.
Speaker 3: I'm not judging you, I mean, but I'm not outly judging.
Speaker 1: Current day Jack's. I'm not hot for He's too roided out,
too sweaty, too puffy. But Season one Jack's before all
the nose jobs and all the you know issues. Yeah,
I was into him.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair, fair, I used to. I used to have
a huge physical crush on Tom Schwartz. Yeah. I don't
have a good physical crush on him anymore, though.
Speaker 1: He's a very attractive man, even with the bow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Keana the girlfriend?
Speaker 2: I think they're really happy, and I think that they're
good for each other.
Speaker 1: I think he has to date a twenty six year old.
He could date a forty year old.
Speaker 2: That wouldn't Kyle Cook shouldn't, but Tom does it. It checks.
Speaker 3: It makes sense in my little brain.
Speaker 1: Is Kyle Cook going to get a new girlfriend and
bring the girl to Summerhouse and immediately have a baby?
Speaker 2: No, okay, because I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with Summerhouse. But I just know it.
Speaker 2: But I just I just tell you everything about it.
My relationship with Summerhouse. It was last year. It was
a cold winter in Philadelphia where I live. The fans
and followers were calling me a poser, a fraud. They said,
you haven't watched see So I sat my butt down
for a weekend, didn't move, watched every season, every reunion.
Speaker 1: Okay, Winter House.
Speaker 2: Lucky for me, I did that because it became and
I did the same thing recently with my favorite Real
Housewives series, Married to Medicine.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to tell you that when we were
at Bravo Khan, we met one of the Married to
Medicine stars, Gorgeous. She was talking to us because nobody
was speaking to her. So we just started talking with
her and I was like, okay, she's on married to medicine.
It's a very good looking husband. She's a doctor, he's
a doctor. They're young, and she said she said. At
some point, she goes, I've got to go be on
a panel. Should I keep this stress on or should
I change? And I go, you should change because people
have taken pictures of you in this dress, so you
should change. But let me show you the dress. She
shows it and I go ooh, I don't know if
that dress you're showing me is a sit down dress,
because you got to think about it. And she's like, yeah,
you're right. We talked for a lost two minutes.
Speaker 2: Do you want to know that at Bravo Khan she's
married to medicine.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And they were like all around me, and one of
them said, you get to come to the panel. I'm thinking,
I'm not your dumb panel. I don't watch that dumb show.
It's my favorite series, it's my favorite franchise.
Speaker 1: I went to the gen X n y C whatever
that next gin I went. I went to that panel
because Ben and Ronnie were hosting it, and they're my
friends and so I was like, I'll support and even
though I watched the show, but I was fascinated by
that Charlie guy. And I was like, so he's a
he's a bitcoin dude that was maybe involved in like
the abuse of this other bitcoin dude in New York City,
and yet he's still in this show.
Speaker 3: Listen, run, don't walk to watch it.
Speaker 2: Charlie SiPort is the villain on the show that you
love to hate.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I don't love him, just love to hate him.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I mean if if you have
some love for Jack's it's.
Speaker 1: True, that's true. But you know, I also feel like
with these these two new these two new shows in
the city and in the city, I don't think it's
gonna last. So I'm not giving it my contention.
Speaker 3: But I respectfully disagree.
Speaker 1: Okay, the next gin I feel like is gonna last,
and probably I'm gonna have to get on board before
the next Bravo con.
Speaker 2: Just do it.
Speaker 3: You have a whole other year and a half.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, maybe I will. I did watch the
first few episodes, and once that girl said that she
doesn't wash her hands after you used to the bathroom.
I was like, oh, Norna, I'm out.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: She has a boyfriend, Mary Payne, who is just as
dirty and also doesn't wash his hands.
Speaker 1: But why do they wash their hands? This is not
good parenting. See we're great parents again.
Speaker 2: It probably gets suck a hell of ut less than
my kids did. I had my kids bathing and hydro
and peroxide and chlorox.
Speaker 1: There's not any I mean, my kids will come to dinner.
I go, did you wash your hands?
Speaker 3: They're like, no, are your kids like fully grown?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, twenty three to twenty one?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll look coughter Helena.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm like, this one's been at a
moving job all day and this one works with dogs.
I'm like, what there, what's your hands? You're disgusting, Okay, disgusting.
Speaker 3: They're like, we're gonna have jobs, so I God.
Speaker 1: Bless, I wish for a desk job. Okay, tell everybody
where they can find all your content and all your
amazing interviews and all these people that you're getting. Tell everybody.
Speaker 2: So I have a podcast called fan or Fanatic pop. Yeah,
fan or Fanatic podcasts. I am on YouTube and all
streaming platforms, and my content you can also follow the
old TikTok and Instagram.
Speaker 1: What's your name on the TikTok and the Instagram.
Speaker 2: It's Lori L. Truman. Two ends, yeah, two ends, two ends.
I could afford two ends married Pain, that's same price.
Speaker 1: So since you're on YouTube like I am, you've got
a YouTube channel, so everybody should follow my channel and
your channel. But yet we still don't understand where the
download went. And I paid fifteen dollars.
Speaker 2: I love when people ask for my stats, like, let
me pay a younger person to look, we're just on camera.
We're on camera, Mary Pain. We can't get the behind.
Speaker 1: The talent, just the talent, just the talent. I'm just
here to be a pretty old face. I have to
ask Ingrid, my producer. I'll say, hey, somebody asked me
what my stats are on YouTube. She's like, oh, they're
really good, and let them know that you're retain rate
and your open rate and your referraway, I go, don't
nobody knows what you're talking about. Nobody knows what you're
talking about. And by nobody I mean me because I
don't know what the fuck she's talking about.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: All Right, thank you very much and I'm glad that
we're new friends. I'm glad that we're new friends. Where
are you in North Carolina right now? At Baldhead Islands.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know Baldam from.
Speaker 1: Atlanta, you guys.
Speaker 2: She knows about that. Of course. I know what's really nice, guys,
that's nice. I just