Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 1: I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult
Speaker 1: is one of the things that turned me.
Speaker 3: Away the quickest.
Speaker 4: When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
Speaker 4: looked at us. And one of the things I remember
Speaker 4: the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see
Speaker 4: an orb of light. It is just circling these steps.
Speaker 1: Like it is waiting for me.
Speaker 2: And he begins to tell them that he saw Ufo.
Speaker 4: They're basically like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 5: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
Speaker 5: and that's where I saw.
Speaker 4: The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes.
Speaker 2: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,
Speaker 2: it don't like death.
Speaker 5: Welcome back to Tenfoil tells. I am your host, Brandon Wright.
Speaker 5: Tonight's episode, we're going to be joined by my guest, Austin.
Speaker 5: Austin is a paranormal researcher. He's also written a few books.
Speaker 5: He's been doing some investigating here locally around Indiana, so
Speaker 5: that's always something that kind of gets my attention, being
Speaker 5: close to home. So I'm definitely looking forward to talking
Speaker 5: with him a little bit but before we bring him on.
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Speaker 5: go ahead and bring Austin on dive into the conversation.
Speaker 5: So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I'd like
Speaker 5: to take this sign and welcome my guests tonight. Austin.
Speaker 5: Thanks for coming on here and talking with me.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me man, I appreciate.
Speaker 5: It, not a problem. Would you like to let the
Speaker 5: audience know a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm a parent one vest gator, been at
Speaker 4: it for well over a decade now, and I have
Speaker 4: a couple of books out, and yeah, it just been
Speaker 4: sucked into the paranormal world, and it's a It's one
Speaker 4: that you can't really get out of it once you
Speaker 4: get in.
Speaker 5: You know what kind of led you down that path?
Speaker 5: Was there something that kind of triggered all that for you?
Speaker 4: I you know, I really don't know. Growing up, I
Speaker 4: was always just that weird kid who was obsessed with it.
Speaker 4: I mean, going back to like five years old, I
Speaker 4: was researching the paranormal. I think it helped that. You know,
Speaker 4: I kind of grew up during the Art Belt era
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. You know, Unsolved Mysteries was on TV,
Speaker 4: Factor Fiction and all that stuff, So I think that
Speaker 4: really kind of helped develop early on, and then just
Speaker 4: having some experiences early on in life, it's just really
Speaker 4: kind of had me deep dive into this.
Speaker 5: That's basically the similarities with me as I grew up.
Speaker 5: I'm a product of the eighties and then Unsold Mysteries,
Speaker 5: the X Files. Yeah, the X Files, all that stuff
Speaker 5: like that has been a huge influence on me throughout
Speaker 5: my life. So like that's stuff I really enjoyed. So
Speaker 5: it's kind of, I think partially what's influenced me to
Speaker 5: be the way I am today.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, It's crazy. You know, just as a child,
Speaker 4: you consume these little things and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: this is your entire life, right, Like.
Speaker 5: This is how to think about I don't do a
Speaker 5: whole lot of like actual investigations or anything like that.
Speaker 5: I went on a couple and I've I'm more of
Speaker 5: a cryptid person myself, and yeah, I would love to
Speaker 5: be able to go out and look for stuff. At
Speaker 5: the same time, it's like I don't have the time.
Speaker 5: So in order for me to compensate for not doing
Speaker 5: what I wanted to do, I do this show. I
Speaker 5: guess I'm the behind the microphone investigator that doesn't really
Speaker 5: do an investigating Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I I have a huge respect for the
Speaker 4: crypted people, like they are a special breed of people
Speaker 4: to go out and you know, these voods and everything
Speaker 4: with everything that can kill them can see them, but
Speaker 4: they can't see it type of thing like there could
Speaker 4: be bears and all this stuff and there's out there. No,
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 5: I'm not a full on believer. I'm pretty skeptical on
Speaker 5: a lot of things. So for me, it's like I
Speaker 5: want to I want to believe. I'll up around the
Speaker 5: old X files reference like, to me, I want to believe.
Speaker 5: But and even though I've seen some things like I
Speaker 5: still am kind of like I try to write it off.
Speaker 5: I know that sounds dumb to a lot of people,
Speaker 5: because like you've seen, like you experienced things like yeah,
Speaker 5: but I always try and rationalize it. And when I
Speaker 5: can't rationalize it, I'm like, all right. Well, for me,
Speaker 5: it's like I have to be able to explain things
Speaker 5: and when you can't explain it. That's why I do
Speaker 5: what I do.
Speaker 4: I dude that it just makes me so sad because
Speaker 4: I'm exactly the same way. And whenever I used to
Speaker 4: investigate with people, they'd get so angry at me because
Speaker 4: I'd be sitting there trying to explain stuff. Even months later,
Speaker 4: I'm like, well it could have been and they're like
Speaker 4: kidchers accept But you know, that's why I call myself
Speaker 4: a skeptical believer. And you'll never hear me say this
Speaker 4: is evidence of ghosts, this is evidence. I don't know.
Speaker 4: There's just it's just paranormal things that happened that I
Speaker 4: can't explain, and it drives me nuts and keeps me
Speaker 4: up at every single night trying to explain these things
Speaker 4: and I just can't. So you know, people can take
Speaker 4: a look and they draw their own conclusions, and that's that,
Speaker 4: you know, mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Now, like one percent of grade, it's it's hard to
Speaker 5: make people understand that don't have experiences, and then there's
Speaker 5: people that do have experiences, and then there's people that
Speaker 5: are just full on believers. For me, I felt like
Speaker 5: in the right category, like I want to say that
Speaker 5: I experience things I want to say I have certain
Speaker 5: activities that have happened to me or stuff like that,
Speaker 5: but I also try and say, well, I can try
Speaker 5: and explain a lot of it. And then you got
Speaker 5: the people that like anytime they experience something that's automatically paranormal,
Speaker 5: paranormal paranormal like well, not necessarily.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I even go through periods where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: all this stuff's fake, you know, none of it's real,
Speaker 4: and then you know, an hour or later, I'm like go, okay,
Speaker 4: hold on. You know, I go through my doubt periods
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 5: You said you've written a couple of books. I figured
Speaker 5: we'll talk about that here in a second. But I
Speaker 5: know you said before there was like one of the
Speaker 5: there's something you're basically known for, like a case or
Speaker 5: something or something that's even like you're experienced or whatever.
Speaker 5: So you want to talk a little bit about that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So that's the book that I wrote, Taylor Milhorror. That
Speaker 5: was a case from.
Speaker 4: Probably almost ten years ago now, and it was essentially
Speaker 4: a case I got thrown into. At the time, I
Speaker 4: had a YouTube channel and we were looking how to
Speaker 4: boost it, and uh so we're looking at all the
Speaker 4: hot places to go to, and Bobby Mackie's was the
Speaker 4: hot place. So we go book Bobby Mackie's, pay way
Speaker 4: too much money for absolutely nothing, and the people there,
Speaker 4: they said, hey, we got this place. You want to
Speaker 4: stay there? It's supposedly haunted, Like, okay, cool place to stay.
Speaker 4: We had no intentions of investigating anything like that. And
Speaker 4: this happened to be the most insane case that I
Speaker 4: have ever experienced. And yeah, I mean, I still can't believe.
Speaker 4: The whole case in itself is just it's unbelievable. And
Speaker 4: I'd spent so long not putting that book out. It
Speaker 4: probably sat on my wealth for probably about eight years.
Speaker 4: It's sat on my computer, and I didn't want to
Speaker 4: put it out because the things that I experienced in
Speaker 4: there I never believed in. And I thought, if I
Speaker 4: put this out, he were to think that I'm absolutely insane,
Speaker 4: and so I just didn't. I didn't. I didn't. Then
Speaker 4: eventually I was like, you know what, I know what
Speaker 4: I experienced, I know what happened, you know, and there's
Speaker 4: other people who have experienced these things, and they might
Speaker 4: be in the same situation that I'm in right now.
Speaker 4: Who don't want to talk about it because people think
Speaker 4: they're crazy. So I just pulled the trigger, decide to
Speaker 4: put it out there, and yeah, it does pretty.
Speaker 5: Well without diving into the whole things. I know, people
Speaker 5: can read the book for all the details, but there
Speaker 5: anything about it, like kind know, you want to talk about,
Speaker 5: like what what was? So what happened during the thing
Speaker 5: basically was like led you to where you are, Like
Speaker 5: what was like the craziest stuff that happened during all.
Speaker 4: The crazy stuff? So I mean, just just a little
Speaker 4: bit of backstory. So when we first went there, we
Speaker 4: figured out, or we were told that the homeowner he
Speaker 4: was in the hospital on his deathbed and he swore
Speaker 4: that whatever was in that home is what was killing him.
Speaker 4: His family had moved out with the home, but he
Speaker 4: kind of refused to. And this family was terrorized twenty
Speaker 4: four to seven, and they'd save up money to go
Speaker 4: stay in a hotel just to get some time away.
Speaker 4: This home has changed hands more times than I can count,
Speaker 4: and when we showed up, it looked like a brand
Speaker 4: new house. I'm like, yeah, there's nothing going on here,
Speaker 4: until later we found out that the tenants before tried
Speaker 4: to destroy the home. They tried to burn it down,
Speaker 4: try to take out the support beams with chainsaws and everything.
Speaker 4: So they've rebuilt it on top of the original property.
Speaker 4: But there, I mean, it was literally anything and everything
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven. I mean, you're talking about insane
Speaker 4: poltergeists activity, you're talking physical attacks, you're talking paranormal earthquakes,
Speaker 4: shadow figures, voices. I always say, you know, one morning
Speaker 4: I was making breakfast and it was probably like eight
Speaker 4: and nine in the morning, and the plate flew across
Speaker 4: the room and shattered. You could not sleep in that
Speaker 4: home because it was literally twenty four to seven. A
Speaker 4: priest went there and he got thrown across the room
Speaker 4: and he ran out and never came back. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was just unimaginable of the things that go on
Speaker 4: inside that home.
Speaker 5: Now, this is I don't you don't have to get
Speaker 5: the exact location. But it isn't Bobby Mackew's that's in Tennessee,
Speaker 5: isn't it.
Speaker 4: It's it's in Kentucky, Okay.
Speaker 5: And was this place also in Kentucky or is it
Speaker 5: out of there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in Taylor Mill, Kentucky, Okay. So it was
Speaker 4: probably like twenty twenty five minutes away.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's still around, Yes it.
Speaker 4: Is, it's still standing. I don't know the guy who
Speaker 4: owns it does not claim that address on like all
Speaker 4: this stuff, because I've been following it. This place sold
Speaker 4: probably six or seven times since we stayed there, and
Speaker 4: they even took the price from like one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars all the way down to like twenty
Speaker 4: nine thousand dollars just to sell it at one point.
Speaker 4: But it's owned by an elderly man. Now I haven't
Speaker 4: reached out to him or anything, but he doesn't seem
Speaker 4: to live there. It looks like he has another home
Speaker 4: that he lives at. So I don't know if he's
Speaker 4: trying to rent it out or if they're just leaving
Speaker 4: the property abandoned, because all the previous owners, at least
Speaker 4: as far as I know, have left that house and
Speaker 4: let the bank take it over because they did not
Speaker 4: they could not bring themselves to sell it and put
Speaker 4: their family families through what they had gone through. And
Speaker 4: so I know at least the past three previous owners
Speaker 4: had the bank take over the property then it got
Speaker 4: resold that way.
Speaker 5: If I had the funding, I would always try to
Speaker 5: find a place like that, I wouldn't live in it, right,
Speaker 5: absolutely not. It would be my personal, like my own
Speaker 5: little thing to do my own sort of like research
Speaker 5: on exactly. Yeah, it would make a great research center,
Speaker 5: but you know, we stayed there for two weeks and
Speaker 5: that was just it was terrible.
Speaker 4: Man. I would never do that again. But to have
Speaker 4: that place's research facility, where you know, you spend a
Speaker 4: day or two there, it'd be wild.
Speaker 5: There's too many people that I feel like are so
Speaker 5: against the thought of paranormal and if you if someone
Speaker 5: had the opportunity to stay at a place for a
Speaker 5: certain amount of time and document it, like over time,
Speaker 5: like all the instances have happened, like set up cameras
Speaker 5: twenty four to seven surveillance, Like you could have the
Speaker 5: documentation and then the experiences and then everything, like you
Speaker 5: can back it up with some sort of physical proof,
Speaker 5: and then the naysayers can be like, oh, well, they'll
Speaker 5: still come up with a reasoning of what is and
Speaker 5: they'll say, oh, you're just hoaxing the whole thing. But
Speaker 5: I feel like that's one of the only ways that
Speaker 5: you're going to get some people to actually start to
Speaker 5: believe into it. Is by having a place that is
Speaker 5: well documented of having that because you've heard of things
Speaker 5: like Waverley Hills. You've heard of all these right places
Speaker 5: that have had all these right crazy experiences. It goes on,
Speaker 5: but unless someone's able to actually experience it themselves, they're
Speaker 5: never going to actually believe it. Even if they do
Speaker 5: experience it, I still think it's hard to turn someone's
Speaker 5: mind into being on a open to believing in the
Speaker 5: type of stuff just for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. You know, I'm filming this new series now,
Speaker 4: and I brought a guy who I didn't know. I
Speaker 4: just kind of reached out to him, and he was
Speaker 4: a big time non believer in the paranormal because I
Speaker 4: needed some help running some cameras, and you know, his
Speaker 4: religion didn't allow him to believe in it, and he
Speaker 4: had such an insane experience that he then basically wouldn't
Speaker 4: go anywhere without all the lights on, he wouldn't leave
Speaker 4: any doors open. He was absolutely terrified, and he ended
Speaker 4: up leaving early. So it was kind of entertaining. But yeah,
Speaker 4: once you, like you said, people have to experience something
Speaker 4: at that point, I mean, it kind of just like
Speaker 4: shatters their whole reality, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So for you, how long have you been doing this?
Speaker 4: You said, Uh, it's been probably eleven twelve years. I'd
Speaker 4: say as far as actually investigating, as far as researching,
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's been my life.
Speaker 5: Like, when was the first experience that you actually have
Speaker 5: while investigating? Like, was that prior to this place, like
Speaker 5: that you actually had something that actually stood out to
Speaker 5: you as being actual paranormal?
Speaker 4: Oh, prior before getting into investigating. Yeah. Absolutely. You know,
Speaker 4: I live and grew up in an over one hundred
Speaker 4: year old farmhouse on suppose was a Native American land,
Speaker 4: and growing up it was all kinds of experiences that
Speaker 4: I personally had. I would see an apparition of a
Speaker 4: man and a woman walk up to my room kind
Speaker 4: of acknowledge me. I would hear the voice of a
Speaker 4: little girl, you know, things like that NonStop, and you know,
Speaker 4: no one really believed me until they eventually started experiencing stuff.
Speaker 4: So I think that's really what, you know, I needed answers.
Speaker 4: I really needed answers, and that's what really really pushed
Speaker 4: me into, you know, getting into it in certain research
Speaker 4: at such an early age.
Speaker 5: Really, I feel like a lot of us that's why
Speaker 5: we get into the things we do, because we're looking
Speaker 5: for answers.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. The problem is you're never going to find them.
Speaker 4: You're just gonna keep chasing.
Speaker 5: That's I literally made a post. I think it was
Speaker 5: yesterday that I've been It's been two years since I
Speaker 5: started the show and I started wanting to find answers.
Speaker 5: But basically you come away with more questions and you
Speaker 5: do answers, and it's a hard pill to swallow, but
Speaker 5: that is part of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you're one un percent right, and you
Speaker 4: know every time you think you have an answer, every
Speaker 4: time I think I know, I'll go to another place
Speaker 4: and it's the complete opposite. It's true, you know, you'll
Speaker 4: just never really know the answers until you know. If
Speaker 4: it's about ghosts, who won't know until we die? Cryptis
Speaker 4: all the stuff, I mean, who knows, who knows if
Speaker 4: we'll ever know the truth.
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of it's all tied together
Speaker 5: in one way or another, just even with my show.
Speaker 5: The concept is obviously anything on the fringe sort of
Speaker 5: topics of paranormal cryptis, aliens, conspiracy, whatever, it's out there
Speaker 5: type of talk that most people are going to prefer
Speaker 5: to you as crazy for believing it and or talking
Speaker 5: about it. But for me, it's like, I think all
Speaker 5: of the stuff, in one form or another, has some
Speaker 5: sort of connection to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree. And I was just talking
Speaker 4: to someone yesterday about this. We years and years ago,
Speaker 4: I went investigated the little hotel in Point Pleasant, West Virginia,
Speaker 4: and we went we talked to the guy who was
Speaker 4: running the Mothman Museum, and we were asking about the
Speaker 4: hauntings over there, and he just kind of looked at us.
Speaker 4: He was like, you guys really believe in ghosts? Like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: we think there's a possibility. He was like, that's literally
Speaker 4: the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But let me tell
Speaker 4: you about how the Mothman's real and how the CIA
Speaker 4: follows me home with black Hawk helicopters every night. And
Speaker 4: I'm just like, yeah, I'm not even making that up,
Speaker 4: Like I swear that's how the conversation went. But to me,
Speaker 4: it's just so insane that someone can believe in one
Speaker 4: thing and not the other, because all too often it parallels,
Speaker 4: and even if you know, especially if we're in the
Speaker 4: paranormal community and we believe in tulpa creation and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. Who's to say things like Bigfoot can't exist
Speaker 4: as a tulpa, you know, it's it's really all tied together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very hard to say one thing is real
Speaker 5: and someone something else is not. Like I actually I
Speaker 5: till there's a lot honestly. Basically, I've noticed that most
Speaker 5: paranormal groups do not like the cryptid groups, and the
Speaker 5: cryptid groups don't get along with the UFO groups. And
Speaker 5: like there's so many different little communities you know, online,
Speaker 5: and everyone like it for some reason like hates each other,
Speaker 5: which again I guess said earlier, think that a lot
Speaker 5: of it's all somehow related. But yeah, there's so much
Speaker 5: inner fighting between the groups and like you can't believe
Speaker 5: in this, oh this, but like not that even bring
Speaker 5: up the religious aspect to it, but like a lot
Speaker 5: of religious people refuse to believe in paranormal stuff like
Speaker 5: with ghosts or anything. But like a lot of these
Speaker 5: people literally are worshiping a god which is supposedly a
Speaker 5: spirit's exactly and then like a holy ghost. It's like
Speaker 5: wait a minute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think the whole thing's crazy as far
Speaker 4: as like, like you said people are religions not believing
Speaker 4: in the paranormal when you look at these biblical texts
Speaker 4: and it's pretty much all paranormal. And at the same token,
Speaker 4: it's people who are in the paranormal field who say
Speaker 4: all religion is ridiculous, yet they believe in tulpas And
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, every week we have hundreds of thousands,
Speaker 4: if not millions, of people send them one place all
Speaker 4: around the world. Like thinking about these creatures with such
Speaker 4: strong emotion, like how can you say that these things
Speaker 4: don't exist if you believe that they you know, we
Speaker 4: can create entities. I mean, come on now, it's just
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's so absurd to me as far
Speaker 4: as like the cherry picking as to what's real what's not,
Speaker 4: because no one knows. No one knows what's real.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, no one has the slightest clue. I think
Speaker 5: we have my like we have our beliefs, but no one,
Speaker 5: one hundred percent has any real idea of what goes
Speaker 5: on in anyone the cs they do.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't really take it all that seriously.
Speaker 4: No you can't. I mean, alls we can agree on
Speaker 4: is that there's some weird stuff that goes on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's all we got. What is it?
Speaker 4: We don't know.
Speaker 5: Is there anything experience wise that you would like to
Speaker 5: just kind of dive on into.
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, I mean it's tough to pick because
Speaker 4: there's just so many things. Now, okay, I'll tell you
Speaker 4: so because I think we're on the same you and
Speaker 4: I are on the same wavelength as far as you know,
Speaker 4: explaining stuff away and things of that nature. And this
Speaker 4: is the one thing that broke my brain so hard
Speaker 4: that this happened about seven years ago. And I just
Speaker 4: went back to this location after seven years to film
Speaker 4: there again, and even the owner remembered it like it
Speaker 4: was yesterday. And this was at the old Blackford Jail
Speaker 4: in Hertford City, Indiana, and we had gone there, like
Speaker 4: I said, about seven years ago, and we were talking
Speaker 4: to the owner, and you know, he offered to give
Speaker 4: us a tour. We said, no, we don't want to.
Speaker 4: We don't want a tour because we don't want to
Speaker 4: know the claims. We want to go in, you know,
Speaker 4: without knowing anything, so we're not influenced. He's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: So he hung out for a little bit as we
Speaker 4: got everything set up, and it came towards the point
Speaker 4: where he was about to leave, and it was like
Speaker 4: seven o'clock and instantly we hear this loud crash and
Speaker 4: he's like, I think, I think someone might have broken in,
Speaker 4: and so we start scouring this place trying to figure
Speaker 4: out what the heck happened. And so we come up
Speaker 4: to this old jail has a living quarters with the
Speaker 4: sheriff used to live. Then it has the jail side.
Speaker 4: So on the living quarters you got the stairs set.
Speaker 4: It's a set of stairs. There's a old landing area
Speaker 4: and another set of stairs and it takes you where
Speaker 4: all the bedrooms and everything are. And on that little
Speaker 4: landing he had this little, uh oh, I don't know
Speaker 4: what you could call it, like a little cabinet glass
Speaker 4: case that had all these relics and stuff in it.
Speaker 4: And on top of that was this very old antique clock.
Speaker 4: And I had commented on it earlier because my parents
Speaker 4: had one that was just like it, old antique clock
Speaker 4: and it was cool, and he had told me he
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I brought that over from the church
Speaker 4: because he had a church that healing too, And he said,
Speaker 4: you no, it hasn't worked since because with those old clocks,
Speaker 4: they have weights in them that had to be perfectly
Speaker 4: balanced or else they don't work. And when he moved him,
Speaker 4: they got unbalanced, and you know, it's kind of difficult
Speaker 4: to find someone who still balances weights and clocks, so
Speaker 4: it was just not working. So anyways, we're just standing
Speaker 4: there and he looks up and he was like, oh man,
Speaker 4: the painting fell down. And he had this big painting
Speaker 4: that I believe his grandmother great grandmother did and he
Speaker 4: turned around and had one of those wire hangers and
Speaker 4: it looked like it had been cut like cleanly, and
Speaker 4: so it had fallen down on top of this little cabinet.
Speaker 4: And they're all like, oh man, that's crazy. I was like,
Speaker 4: come on, it could have just fallen. It could have
Speaker 4: been by chance. And so they're sitting there talking about
Speaker 4: it and I'm just sitting there like, nah, it's not paranormal.
Speaker 4: And then were sitting there for in silence, in silence
Speaker 4: for a second, and we hear this ticking sound and
Speaker 4: we all kind of look up and the clock was
Speaker 4: going and we're like, huh okay, So that painting fell
Speaker 4: into the clock and the clock started that's kind of weird.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I have, but you know, things happen.
Speaker 4: And then the owner says, look at the time it
Speaker 4: was down, it was cracked down to the very second,
Speaker 4: so that clock must have been stopped at seven pm,
Speaker 4: and at exactly seven pm this painting happened to fly
Speaker 4: across the hall onto this clock and started at that point.
Speaker 4: I'm out of explanations. I don't know. It still bugs
Speaker 4: me to this day.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's a hard one to rationalize.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you really can't. So you know, I
Speaker 4: guess I went back again and just all kinds of
Speaker 4: crazy stuff that I went there. And the other interesting
Speaker 4: thing is going back and talking about, you know, this
Speaker 4: whole we don't know what it is. Is that one
Speaker 4: of the big claims there that I didn't really believe
Speaker 4: in was that this jail is still haunted by one
Speaker 4: of the previous workers. And I was there by myself,
Speaker 4: and i'd come up the stairs from the basement and
Speaker 4: I heard him talking, and I'm like, that is insane,
Speaker 4: because the previous worker is now the man who owns
Speaker 4: the place, and I called him and he was over
Speaker 4: an hour away at one of their other properties. So
Speaker 4: somehow still and he is even investigated there and captured
Speaker 4: himself on audio, left an audio recorder in there and
Speaker 4: captured himself on audio. And it's just like, what what
Speaker 4: is going on here to where a man who is
Speaker 4: very alive is haunting this property? You know, are we
Speaker 4: creating our own hauntings? Is there some sort of tricks
Speaker 4: or element? You know? Once again, more questions and answers.
Speaker 5: You know, I wonder if this is just me kind
Speaker 5: of talking out loud. Basically, I wonder if we don't
Speaker 5: project some of the things out there, like if there's
Speaker 5: I wonder what we're looking at, what our thinking. And
Speaker 5: we mentioned pulpit earlier. I wonder if we're not manifesting
Speaker 5: these things that happen because it's something that we've thought
Speaker 5: of and for whatever reason, enough energy has been put
Speaker 5: into it, and now these things are here because we've
Speaker 5: manifested it somehow. I know that's a weird concept for
Speaker 5: a lot of people, but like, I feel like it
Speaker 5: could be a possibility.
Speaker 4: I agree with you. And one of the one of
Speaker 4: the other places that I was at was the asylum
Speaker 4: that he also owned, and there was reports and I
Speaker 4: had weird I had a loss of time in one
Speaker 4: of the rooms up there. I don't know what happened,
Speaker 4: but apparently I was staring at the wall for like
Speaker 4: twenty five minutes. No one could get me out of it,
Speaker 4: and eventually they kind of shook me out of it.
Speaker 4: And so this room was always weird to me. And
Speaker 4: after about three or four years, this year was my
Speaker 4: first time going back, and I asked him about that room,
Speaker 4: and they said that they think it's like a time
Speaker 4: slip area, and I was like, Oh, that's weird. And
Speaker 4: the reason they think that is because there was a
Speaker 4: woman who was there on a tour and she was
Speaker 4: pacing around the room and kind of like making noises
Speaker 4: and stuff like that because she was just uncomfortable in there.
Speaker 4: And a year later, they're still capturing the audio of
Speaker 4: that woman inside that room, and so, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: still kind of like on the fence about it until
Speaker 4: I was there one night and there was a group
Speaker 4: there doing a tour and I was staying out in
Speaker 4: the hallway and I watch as this weird looking shadow
Speaker 4: figure walks out of that room and down the hall
Speaker 4: and I just saw it out of the corner of
Speaker 4: my eye, and I'm like, nah, I didn't just see that.
Speaker 4: So I just watched down the hall and just stare
Speaker 4: and I see it happened again, probably five ten seconds later,
Speaker 4: And now I know that I'm going crazy. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you don't see this kind of thing, let alone twice
Speaker 4: within like ten fifteen seconds. And then one of the
Speaker 4: volunteers had come upstairs because a girl in the group
Speaker 4: had to go to the bathroom. She didn't know where
Speaker 4: it was, and she was kind of afraid to go
Speaker 4: on her own, so she took her down. So then
Speaker 4: the volunteer comes up and stands next to me, and
Speaker 4: it does it again. And she looks at me and
Speaker 4: she said, did you just see that man walk out
Speaker 4: of that room and down that hall? And I said,
Speaker 4: you saw it too, She said yes, And I said,
Speaker 4: that's the third time that I've seen it in less
Speaker 4: than a minute. What the heck? And so we took
Speaker 4: off down the hall, searched everything, couldn't find anyone. But
Speaker 4: you know, that just raises another interesting question. What could
Speaker 4: be going on there? Could it be once again, you know,
Speaker 4: manifesting it, people manifesting it. Could there be time slips?
Speaker 4: Could ghosts be literally just time slips? You know, just
Speaker 4: this little wrinkling time. I don't know, more questions than answers.
Speaker 5: I feel like there's a lot of things that happen,
Speaker 5: like people go to Gettysburg and they see Yes, it's
Speaker 5: almost like the energy is like such a traumatic event
Speaker 5: has rented itself on. I know, this is like a
Speaker 5: residual or it's the same thing like repeats and repeats
Speaker 5: are Maybe it's such a traumatic event that happened, the
Speaker 5: people are still like that energy is not it's just
Speaker 5: like implement. I don't like it's weird to describe it,
Speaker 5: but like it's still there. It's still happening, like they're
Speaker 5: stuck in that same thing on a like a loop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely I think there's something to that. You know.
Speaker 4: That's that's why people always talk about cemeteries being haunted.
Speaker 4: And I don't believe that cemeteries are haunted because the
Speaker 4: people buried there. What I do think is going on
Speaker 4: is if you think about it, how much emotion goes
Speaker 4: into a cemetery, and you know, these people go and
Speaker 4: visit their loved ones or the funerals, and there's so
Speaker 4: much emotion. Then they'll come back and visit to them
Speaker 4: and act like they're still living. You know. I think
Speaker 4: that's what's going on there. You know, people are creating
Speaker 4: these I just recently investigated an old military base that
Speaker 4: was converted into a haunted attraction during the Halloween months,
Speaker 4: and it was funny because all their claims. I'm listening
Speaker 4: to them, and they all line up with the haunted house,
Speaker 4: like they experience certain things in certain areas, Like a
Speaker 4: man who they say always says he's really busy trying
Speaker 4: to get work done, he doesn't want to get bothered.
Speaker 4: And I look in that room and they've got a
Speaker 4: death set up, they've got to type writer, and it's like,
Speaker 4: you guys are creating this if anything.
Speaker 5: Hmm, it's weird. I think, Like again, what I think
Speaker 5: don't really matter, but sometimes I think, like some of
Speaker 5: the things that happen, like you mentioned like with cemeteries, MH.
Speaker 5: You also have other places that like hospitals or you're
Speaker 5: all asylums. There's been so much things that happen in there, right,
Speaker 5: So people when they investigate these places, like just think
Speaker 5: about all the stuff that has happened in there over
Speaker 5: the years, Like think about all the death, the energy,
Speaker 5: the traumatic events like exactly. I don't necessarily think they're
Speaker 5: being haunted because they're being haunted. I just feel like
Speaker 5: that energy is just trapped there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. And it's the same thing with like hotels. Uh,
Speaker 4: you'll get all these schools that pop up, people like
Speaker 4: why are schools haunted? Right? I mean there's so much
Speaker 4: you know, that hormones and everything else that goes through
Speaker 4: that place, Like when people are the most emotional in
Speaker 4: their lives, or when they're in school, whether it be
Speaker 4: elementary or high school. You know, there's so much of
Speaker 4: that pumped into there that Yeah, I could see there's
Speaker 4: still be an energy going around. Or even churches. I
Speaker 4: just recently investigated the church that Jim Jones grew up
Speaker 4: in and peere like, why is a church haunted? Well?
Speaker 4: Think about it. You've got all these people pouring all
Speaker 4: their emotions into it. You know, we compare stuff to
Speaker 4: being like a religious experience because it's such an intense feeling.
Speaker 4: Now you have all these people coming in, They're having
Speaker 4: these intense emotions for you know, ten twenty thirty years.
Speaker 4: You know, I think there that energy is probably still
Speaker 4: hanging around there somewhere. You know.
Speaker 5: I've had someone else on last year that talked about
Speaker 5: that they bought a church and it was haunted, and
Speaker 5: I thought it was strange that a church could be haunted. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but yeah, absolutely, I actually need to try and reach
Speaker 5: back out with him. And because they just moved in,
Speaker 5: I don't think too long before that he said we
Speaker 5: could actually do more of an episode about that. Eventually,
Speaker 5: I was like, well, I just kind of thought of
Speaker 5: when you mentioned that, I kind of got ever thinking
Speaker 5: about I need to reach out to him. But no,
Speaker 5: there's a I think the heat if I remember correctly,
Speaker 5: the church was built, had like the water on it
Speaker 5: was actually from an actual creek, oh, like a spring
Speaker 5: that ran through under the church. So the water for
Speaker 5: where they had the baptism was actually like a spring.
Speaker 4: Look like that wild.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, water is usually a conduit, right,
Speaker 5: absolutely so. But it's still strange to me though that
Speaker 5: on a religious aspect that a church could possibly be haunted.
Speaker 5: But again, like the throw religion out completely, it's still
Speaker 5: a place where there's a lot of energy that happened
Speaker 5: because there's that place. Especially back in the old days. Yeah,
Speaker 5: old churches were places where they took out and did
Speaker 5: a lot of enus acts in the name of religion,
Speaker 5: and even like with old modern because this is I
Speaker 5: think out west old places in the US where they
Speaker 5: used to do hangings and everything else, they were sometimes
Speaker 5: done in front of a church, right, So there's a
Speaker 5: lot of traumatic things that go on there. And even
Speaker 5: people that do die usually have a funeral back in
Speaker 5: those days at.
Speaker 4: A church exactly, and even weddings. Yes, I mean, all
Speaker 4: this stuff just puts energy into places. Now.
Speaker 5: I tend to agree that sometimes I think that the
Speaker 5: hauntings themselves are not necessarily hauntings in the sense of
Speaker 5: it being spirits or whatever, but I think it's sty
Speaker 5: with the energy that's maybe still in the area, and
Speaker 5: then that's the thing that we're interacting with, is somehow
Speaker 5: this energy is trapped.
Speaker 4: I one agree with you, But.
Speaker 5: Well, is there anything else you want to share a
Speaker 5: little bit about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm right now. I'm just working on
Speaker 4: my project, the Dead Chronicles, and that's something that has
Speaker 4: been really important to me. It's all about the Dead
Speaker 4: Chronicles being these stories that have been lost because we
Speaker 4: look at the paranormal now and everything is demonic, everything's evil,
Speaker 4: everything is you know, whatever, and it's you know, I'm
Speaker 4: trying to get out there and bring back these stories
Speaker 4: and the real history and these actual people, because to me,
Speaker 4: it's just so sad to go to places and you know,
Speaker 4: have them, you know, they try to make everything creepy,
Speaker 4: and it's just like these were normal people. Like we
Speaker 4: need to preserve history, we need to respect these people.
Speaker 4: And that's the big project that I'm working on now
Speaker 4: and I just got off the phone. I'm trying to
Speaker 4: get enough money raised to to do some ground penetrating
Speaker 4: radar at the asylum where there's over fifty unmarked graves
Speaker 4: somewhere and we want to try to you know, get
Speaker 4: a memorial, go in and figure out where these graves
Speaker 4: are and stuff like that. And you know, I just
Speaker 4: think that this is something that has been kind of
Speaker 4: thrown to the side and people have kind of lost
Speaker 4: sight of that. You know, not everything has to be scary,
Speaker 4: like if we're communicating with the dead, these were people,
Speaker 4: These are people, and you know, it should be respected
Speaker 4: and these places should be respected, and we can still
Speaker 4: learn a lot from all these people and these places.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is history, and you know a lot
Speaker 4: of these places are very important places where a lot
Speaker 4: of important things happened, and so you know, I just
Speaker 4: trying to get back to you know what I think
Speaker 4: the paranormal was a while back and bring history in
Speaker 4: these people to the forefront, and the paranormal is just
Speaker 4: a way to try to connect with that history, if
Speaker 4: that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you happen to have like where those asylum is,
Speaker 5: like contacts from like the local agencies, because I feel
Speaker 5: like there's a historical society and some of maybe like
Speaker 5: stuff like that would also help like with funding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one. That's one thing that I'm trying to
Speaker 4: get into, trying to get ahold of the historical society,
Speaker 4: trying to set up events. You know, I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to do whatever I can. I have the guy Billy Wilkerson,
Speaker 4: he's an amazing man who does this, but he's also
Speaker 4: five hours away, so he doesn't all for donations to
Speaker 4: his historical society, which is the Sims County Historical Society,
Speaker 4: but he's willing to come. You know. I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to get that money raise so we can make it happen.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like we're like the local agencies or whatever.
Speaker 5: There should be people that were also interested locally too,
Speaker 5: because I know from around here from experience, just from
Speaker 5: working purposes without diving into all that, Like, yeah, certain
Speaker 5: groups are getting very very interested about stuff. And we've
Speaker 5: uncovered grave markers doing construction and kind of shut things
Speaker 5: down for a little bit to figure out that they
Speaker 5: weren't actually graves. They were just left over headstones that
Speaker 5: were just thrown. None of them made any sense a while,
Speaker 5: Like that's above my pay grade at the time, right,
Speaker 5: I know, like there's certain groups certain things overseas stuff
Speaker 5: like that, So I thought maybe you could look into
Speaker 5: tapping into that and see if they'd be able to
Speaker 5: help out too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always interesting because especially like I did a
Speaker 4: lot of vest skating like Tennessee and Kentucky and all
Speaker 4: that stuff, and they're in the Bible Belt and down there.
Speaker 4: They want nothing to do with the paranormal. And if
Speaker 4: I were to ask someone if they wanted to help
Speaker 4: out with something like that, you know, they might try
Speaker 4: to burn me at the stake. So it's weird to like,
Speaker 4: you know, you come to like Ohio and we kind
Speaker 4: of embrace that kind of stuff and the community come
Speaker 4: together around it, and then you go other places and
Speaker 4: they're like, you're a demon, You're a witch. You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, for the purposes of the ground penetrating stuff,
Speaker 5: are is that to try just to locate where they're
Speaker 5: buried or are you wanting to actually maybe figure out
Speaker 5: who they were?
Speaker 4: Well, so we know who some of them are. There
Speaker 4: is documentation for some of them, but really we just
Speaker 4: want to figure O number one, how many are there,
Speaker 4: because we know now that over five hundred people died
Speaker 4: in this asylum. And you know, the asylum wasn't an
Speaker 4: insane asylum. It was a poor farm. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, if you had one girl was dropped off
Speaker 4: because she had a speech impediment and her parents were
Speaker 4: ashamed of her, so they drop her off. So it
Speaker 4: also became a place where you know, all the undesirable
Speaker 4: so to speak, were dropped off, and so when they
Speaker 4: passed away, a lot of them just they had to
Speaker 4: bury them right there, you know. So you know, we
Speaker 4: just want to know how many people are there, where
Speaker 4: they're at, so that we can at least put up
Speaker 4: something to you know, try to memorialize them and you know,
Speaker 4: get them at least a little bit of respect, because
Speaker 4: you know, they were kind of dealt with in a
Speaker 4: very undignified way. Not that the asylum could do anything
Speaker 4: about it. I mean, they did the best they could,
Speaker 4: but it's just it's terrible to think that all these
Speaker 4: people were just allowed to be thrown into a hole
Speaker 4: and just forgotten about, you know.
Speaker 5: As a species. Especially back then, but even in today's standards,
Speaker 5: we are disgusting, like, yeah, yeah, I have children, and
Speaker 5: there's no way I would get rid of one of
Speaker 5: my children because of a speech impediment. Like, to me,
Speaker 5: that's just what kind of a human being could that
Speaker 5: be that they would do that to their child because
Speaker 5: it talked a little different.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, And unfortunately that place was you know, it
Speaker 4: had a lot of people like that. You know, the
Speaker 4: girl with the speech of pediment, she got kicked in
Speaker 4: the head by a donkey and so she developed the
Speaker 4: speech of pediments. Of parents are like, eh, we're done
Speaker 4: with you. You know, it's just so wild to think about.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm sure that stuff, I mean, I
Speaker 4: know that stuff still goes on today, but like you said,
Speaker 4: it's just so terrible and you just want to do
Speaker 4: you know, even though we can't go back in time
Speaker 4: to help that person, you know, I feel like we
Speaker 4: can still do something to memorializing one way or another
Speaker 4: by telling their stories, by you know, there's something that
Speaker 4: we can do so that this person didn't just disappear
Speaker 4: without a trace. You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when you stop to think about some of
Speaker 5: the things. Like, I know, we live in the modern times,
Speaker 5: so the mysteries of the past we tend to forget.
Speaker 5: But like if you find out the truth about how
Speaker 5: bad we kind of were that people were back then,
Speaker 5: it's really screwed up to think just in general, like
Speaker 5: that was acceptable at the time, absolutely, and not even
Speaker 5: one hundred and something years ago, Like it was acceptable
Speaker 5: just to hang people from a tree right out front
Speaker 5: because of whatever reason, Like that was justification, just because
Speaker 5: this person has stolen a little bit. Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 5: hang them, and there's a big gathering everyone come out
Speaker 5: to watch it, exactly like today we watched sports on TV,
Speaker 5: and back in those days, they watch people hang from
Speaker 5: a tree.
Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, you're absolutely right, And it really wasn't
Speaker 4: that long ago. I mean some of our parents and
Speaker 4: even grandparents were around to see a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 4: you know that today we just can't even imagine ever happened.
Speaker 4: But you know, I mean, it's it's important to remember
Speaker 4: that stuff so that we don't go back to that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's a cliche, you know, that
Speaker 4: we should learn from history, but it's it's so true,
Speaker 4: Like it's it's good that we feel this way now
Speaker 4: about the things that happened. Then otherwise we would still
Speaker 4: be in those times, and you know, it just wouldn't
Speaker 4: be good.
Speaker 5: The sad part is, and this is me being my
Speaker 5: conspiracy had or whatever, but I feel like they're trying
Speaker 5: to make us forget about that type of history, Like
Speaker 5: a lot of it gets the narrative gets changed because
Speaker 5: the newer generations or whatever. We're almost like damning ourselves
Speaker 5: to repeat it because they don't want to talk about
Speaker 5: this stuff anymore.
Speaker 4: I one million percent agree with you. I mean, even
Speaker 4: you know, when we were in school, there's certain things
Speaker 4: that we were taught that wasn't true and certain things
Speaker 4: that they wouldn't touch on, you know. I mean, the
Speaker 4: government's controlling the school systems. The government's controlling literally everything, honestly,
Speaker 4: and like you said, it seems like we're starting to
Speaker 4: push away from that. And you know, I think we've
Speaker 4: seen over the past, you know, ten years or so,
Speaker 4: we've noticed a huge shift in society and it's not
Speaker 4: necessarily a good shift. And I don't think social media
Speaker 4: is the blame. I really don't. I think it's like
Speaker 4: you said, this controlling of the knowledge and this you know,
Speaker 4: this influx of misinformation and honestly brainwashing.
Speaker 5: It's I say, it's a numbing of society, like they
Speaker 5: want to keep everything dumbed down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, Yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 4: like a funny, funny side note when we talk about that.
Speaker 4: I saw the other day that we all know the
Speaker 4: movie Idiocracy, that they said that in that movie they
Speaker 4: wanted to create the ugliest shoes that no one would
Speaker 4: wear possible. So they spend all this money doing it,
Speaker 4: and those shoes are what we now call crocs. Just
Speaker 4: like here we go, you know, just like this, this
Speaker 4: is so ironic, you can't.
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, It's very disheartening just because people
Speaker 5: that are free thinkers that kind of do what I do,
Speaker 5: do what you do, and we think outside the box.
Speaker 5: For the ones labeled is crazy because we have our
Speaker 5: own belief systems and our own ideas and correct. If
Speaker 5: it goes against what's being pushed, then we're the problems,
Speaker 5: we're the crazy people. But yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: things that go on that make zero sense. And I
Speaker 5: don't know why no one questions it, but yet because
Speaker 5: the TV and the media tells us that if this
Speaker 5: is what it is, and we jump the wagon and
Speaker 5: accept it for what it is. But like, no one
Speaker 5: ever questions in and if you question it, you're the problem.
Speaker 5: Such as like I don't know whether I don't.
Speaker 4: Like how.
Speaker 5: Society is becoming, but that's neither here nor there off
Speaker 5: the topic. It's just me.
Speaker 4: Here talking into the ether. I guess yeah, no, I
Speaker 4: totally agree with you, Like, like we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 4: that bleeds through into the paranormal people who will believe
Speaker 4: literally everything's paranormal, or people will never accept it. I
Speaker 4: think people love to be in their comfort bubbles, and
Speaker 4: they put themselves into these kind of echo chambers, these
Speaker 4: groups of people who think and act the same way
Speaker 4: that they do. People will regurgitate the same things that
Speaker 4: they do because you know, if you don't believe in
Speaker 4: then you know in afterlife, for example, then all religion
Speaker 4: is completely false and that confirms your beliefs. There on
Speaker 4: the flip side, if you do believe it no matter what,
Speaker 4: then you know it confirms the opposite. And people just
Speaker 4: don't like to step outside their comfort zone and h
Speaker 4: question things because that's dangerous, right, Like, once you start
Speaker 4: thinking that's dangerous, then it might change your entire life,
Speaker 4: it might change your entire worldview, your religious views. And
Speaker 4: that's just something that people don't want to do. So
Speaker 4: they'd rather just stay in these echo chambers, you know,
Speaker 4: stay plugged into you know, the machine, so to speak,
Speaker 4: and just carry on about their lives.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I wish I could just plug myself back in,
Speaker 5: but at this point I'm too far out of the matrix
Speaker 5: to get plugged back in.
Speaker 4: I I know. I always say, like I envy some
Speaker 4: of these people sometimes be able to just have like
Speaker 4: such a like to know something for a fact, like
Speaker 4: just be able to be content with that, Like what
Speaker 4: does that feel like? I would love to know?
Speaker 5: Right, Well, we can talk about your books here before
Speaker 5: we get things wrapped up and where everyone can check
Speaker 5: them out at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so once again I got Taylor Mill Horror. That's
Speaker 4: the true story of that home in Taylor Mill Kentucky
Speaker 4: that can be found on Amazon. And then I have
Speaker 4: my fiction horror novel Hell's Carnival, also out on Amazon,
Speaker 4: that's based off of a reoccurring nightmare I had since
Speaker 4: I was a child, combined with a traumatic event I
Speaker 4: had probably about three or four years ago, and it
Speaker 4: all crafted into a gory horror novel.
Speaker 5: I did something similar last year. I had a very
Speaker 5: weird experience and I turned it into a horror novel
Speaker 5: and really, yeah, it's not very long, sol about one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty pages, but I'm definitely not a writer. And
Speaker 5: then I used my grammarly and I used word and
Speaker 5: then I ran it through like one of those a
Speaker 5: AI programs that does like it was supposed to format
Speaker 5: things correctly. What I realized it ended up changing words
Speaker 5: that I didn't write. And after I got and I
Speaker 5: got back and reading, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 5: remember saying that word. I don't even know what that
Speaker 5: word means, and like I just took the suggestions of
Speaker 5: what things were telling me, like oh this was I
Speaker 5: just like okay, okay, Like when like word was telling
Speaker 5: me you I misspelled something, I just So The book
Speaker 5: has been out for almost a year now and then
Speaker 5: like I don't even talk about it much because it's
Speaker 5: like I'm embarrassed that it has like words and stuff
Speaker 5: in it that I didn't do and I didn't really say.
Speaker 5: Is like, it's technically not one hundred percent when I wrote,
Speaker 5: it's about ninety eight percent me, and the rest of
Speaker 5: it's like whatever the computer decided to fix for me.
Speaker 4: Right right. The rest is telling you you know that
Speaker 4: the JFK sassination was exactly how they'd been said, just randomly.
Speaker 5: It used like fear and intrepidation. I think like twenty
Speaker 5: five times. I was like I never said that, Wow,
Speaker 5: they were I was like, I don't even know what
Speaker 5: the word trepidation meant. That I'm not going to use
Speaker 5: it that many times. But so no, when when I
Speaker 5: got the finished book back and I was reading through
Speaker 5: it because it was just kind of like, oh man,
Speaker 5: mm hmm, but that is out there, I thought it
Speaker 5: was pretty cool to have a book.
Speaker 4: So but no, that's awesome.
Speaker 5: I will include links for anyone that's interested in the
Speaker 5: show notes. Just make sure to send them my way,
Speaker 5: and then I will include them for everything. And then
Speaker 5: working people get a hold of your check out or
Speaker 5: what your latest thing is like where they can find
Speaker 5: all your information in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all can go check out the dead chronicles on Facebook.
Speaker 4: Like I said, that's my new project. This would all
Speaker 4: be plugged into. So that's definitely the best way to
Speaker 4: get a hold of me and check out what's going on.
Speaker 5: Awesome. Well, Austin, don't want to cut it short, but
Speaker 5: it's been a pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 4: Oh the pleasures all been mine, trust me.
Speaker 5: And again for anyone listening, I'll have information for you
Speaker 5: in the show notes to check that out. But we're
Speaker 5: gonna head out. So thanks to Austin, and thanks for
Speaker 5: everyone listening, and good night.
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Speaker 1: And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share,
Speaker 1: the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. Thank you
Speaker 1: all for joining us on this journey, and until next time,
Speaker 1: keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown.
Speaker 5: Goodnight, everyone says on sounds in the headstones.
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Speaker 2: big Foot talk. Then they're out there in the dark.
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Speaker 6: Ufo sightings got the whole world shook, conspiracies and folds
Speaker 6: like a story in the book.
Speaker 3: Control trying to keep us by.
Speaker 6: We're all gonna use.
Speaker 3: The whole mind.
Speaker 4: In history.
Speaker 6: They don't want us to know the secrets they hide
Speaker 6: since they won't show so they don't society.
Speaker 3: They keep us in chase. But Sad and Thomas time
Speaker 3: to break the reins.
Speaker 6: Control trying to keep us fine, but I'm alone before
Speaker 6: We're gonna use.
Speaker 2: My mind.
Speaker 4: In history.
Speaker 6: They want us to know the secrets to hide since
Speaker 6: they also.
Speaker 3: No they no society, they keep us in chase. I'm
Speaker 3: sending song this sound to break the reins.