WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.519 single day on your favorite podcast platform. Wow, hard to 6 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:20.559 believe it's Friday, and so much to do, so little time, Ryan, 7 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:23.320 thank you, Thank you to Christy Burton Brown covering the 8 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:26.519 show while I was in court yesterday. And you've got 9 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.000 quite an all star lineup next week, right, I'm yeah. 10 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:32.320 Of course, We've always had these tremendous folks who do 11 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:34.399 fill in work when I'm in trial, and then we 12 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:36.159 kind of open it up. Wanted to get some new 13 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:39.520 blood in and add to our dream team, and we've 14 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:43.000 certainly done that. So have you arrived at kind of 15 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:45.039 a final roster next week? 16 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.600 If I'm correct, Yes, and sometimes I am. 17 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:51.399 We're going to have and all Monday and Thursday was 18 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:55.920 great and newly introducing yes, the Sheriff of Weld County, 19 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:57.840 Steve Reems Tuesday and Wednesday. 20 00:00:57.840 --> 00:00:59.000 We're looking forward to that. 21 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:03.399 That is fantastic. Stick Kelly's I fantastic, great idea. Yeah, 22 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.840 great idea, and yeah, I'll have a great honor to 23 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:09.239 have all of them on the show, and the sheriff certainly. 24 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.719 And I think we still need to fill on Friday though. 25 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.040 Oh okay, so just so if anybody has any suggestions, 26 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:16.439 and we have and then George Brockler is going to 27 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:18.719 fill in a bit the second week here. So that 28 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:23.760 is that is fantastic. Sure, do appreciate that. And where 29 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:25.799 to start today? I think there's only one place we 30 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.519 can't start, right, And this is kind of near and 31 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:31.200 dear to me. So this kind of lunacy, I mean 32 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:36.439 when when the left does stuff, you know, just out 33 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:40.560 of their crazy leftist ideology, and they do stuff that's 34 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.599 going to get people killed, it drives me absolutely crazy 35 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:47.599 because it seems to me, you know, you got this 36 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.719 stuff that reasonable people can differ on policy wise, right, 37 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:55.840 But the problem with the left and it is they 38 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.920 just have this fundamentally different view of the value of 39 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.319 human life. And we often talk about that, I know, 40 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:05.439 in the context of the mass killing that is abortion, 41 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:11.599 But this fundamentally different view of whether each and every 42 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:15.960 human life matters, whether each and every human life has 43 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:23.599 its own profound individual dignity that plays out in other 44 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:26.879 ways because and I think with so many Democrats and 45 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.400 folks who voted habitually for Democrats over the years, what 46 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.560 they don't understand because they're not involved in politics every day, etc. 47 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:36.840 You're voting out of habit and then they don't like 48 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.360 Republicans that sort of thing. But I think what so 49 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.680 many people who vote Democratic don't understand is that the 50 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:48.520 people who control the party now they don't share their 51 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.039 core beliefs. They don't share their worldview. So many of 52 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.039 the people who control the Democratic Party now are secular. 53 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.319 They may not believe in God at all, or they 54 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:01.360 certainly don't believe that those beliefs should be part of politics, 55 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:04.319 probably because the things they want to do in political 56 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.039 office are different than what their own religion teaches. But 57 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.680 wherever it comes from, they don't have what used to 58 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.080 be this kind of universally shared belief in America or 59 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:19.159 close to universally, that individual human life is sacred, it matters, 60 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.960 it's important, it is its own dignity. There are these 61 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:27.080 big statists who just look at the state and their 62 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:31.199 lefty goals and everything else as being all that really matters, 63 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:34.759 and individual human life just doesn't have any value unless 64 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.159 it's their own or their own family members. And the 65 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:41.479 way it's playing out most recently in Colorado is this 66 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:47.800 crazy new law regarding drivers' licenses for folks here illegally. 67 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.479 And you know, we've had that to a certain extent 68 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.919 in the past, and now, believe it or not, they're expanding. 69 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:55.960 And one of the reasons that drives me so crazy is, 70 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:58.520 you know what I do for a living, and I've 71 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.360 done now for over forty years. I help people who've 72 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:06.879 had their closest loved ones killed on the roadways or 73 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:11.280 unfortunately killed in other horrible ways, or like really seriously injured. 74 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.719 And so when you get politicians who just treat that 75 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.560 like some kind of joke, and they just treat it 76 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.759 like it doesn't even matter, and they treat the people 77 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:26.319 on the roads as an acceptable casualty rate, that stuff 78 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:28.680 just drives me crazy. And we see the left do 79 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.639 that in so many different ways, right And we've talked 80 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:34.279 about a bunch of those on air. You know, whether 81 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:38.079 it's legalization of recreational drugs like Krakawana, where you know 82 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.519 the second you do that that you're going to have 83 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.240 so much more death and destruction on the roadway. But 84 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.040 this business, yeah, listen to this. I want to get 85 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:47.519 your take now. 86 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.279 Colorado's handling of the immigration crisis, as you know, has 87 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:52.959 been roundly criticized by the Trump administration. 88 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.480 Just last week, Denver's mayor was in the hot seat 89 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.439 on Capitol Hill, grilled in front of members of Congress 90 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:02.639 over the city's immigration policies. Mike Johnston was joined by 91 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:05.759 other Democratic mayors to testify before the House Oversight and 92 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:09.680 Government Reform Committee. Now, state lawmakers want to allow undocumented 93 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:12.360 immigrants to obtain a driver's license Cover seventh. 94 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:15.120 Christian Lopez explains why they say this move could make 95 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:16.120 all the safer. 96 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:20.920 This bill is going to help a lot of undocumented people. 97 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.240 A new law going into effect on March thirty first, 98 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.480 will fast track the process for immigrants to obtain a 99 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:28.560 driver's license. 100 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.240 But not only are they going to know the rules 101 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.519 and the laws of the road, but they're going to 102 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:37.240 be able to get insurance on their cars and plates. 103 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:41.079 Hurriya Valdez, a driving instructor at the American Driving Academy 104 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.639 in Aurora, says it'll benefit the whole state. 105 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:48.439 Many people are already driving without driver's licenses, so this 106 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.480 gives them the opportunity to be able to drive safely 107 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:52.199 and legally. 108 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.720 Colorado already allows undocumented. 109 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.000 Wait a second, I just have to stop it there. 110 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:03.959 This is totally not right. I mean, this now allows 111 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.639 them to drive safely and legally. No, ma'am, you're missing 112 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:13.319 the point. They shouldn't be here. They shouldn't be here, 113 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.639 and each time you have and I don't mean that 114 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.079 personally toward them, I just mean they're not legally here, 115 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.920 and by being here illegally, that inherently endangers everybody else 116 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:31.000 because out on the roadway, no matter who somebody is, 117 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:35.000 everybody out on the roadway has the potential to make 118 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:38.600 a mistake that takes somebody else's life. And then sometimes 119 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:42.120 it's negligent, you know, feeling to use reasonable care. And 120 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:45.399 then much more often these days it's reckless because we 121 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.240 see so much more crazy reckless driving, speeding, et cetera. 122 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:53.240 I mean crazy speed, right, crazy speeding, and so much 123 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:58.399 more impaired driving. And so no, it's inherently more dangerous 124 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:02.199 on the roadways each time even a single additional person 125 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:06.920 is on the roadway who shouldn't be here. So what 126 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:13.879 this individual is completely missing or must understand, But it 127 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:18.720 appears to be completely missing is that this serves as 128 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:23.279 a magnet. This serves as a magnet. You say that 129 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.399 you are living down on the other side of the border, 130 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.759 and you are living in some really tough conditions. Your 131 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.959 otherise a good person, but you just wanted to be 132 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:33.639 in America and you're trying to decide where to go. Well, 133 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.680 first of all, we should have border control so the 134 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.160 nation can decide who comes in. But of course, once 135 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.279 you hear oh, okay in Colorado, wait a second. Now, 136 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.879 they just changed the law so you cannot only come 137 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.480 here illegally. You can go illegally and get a driver's 138 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:51.160 license day one. The old law you had to wait 139 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:53.519 two years. You can get a driver's license day one. 140 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:55.399 You don't need a Social Security card. 141 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:56.160 All of that. 142 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:01.279 It's a magnet. So think about what's happening. You have 143 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:04.319 the left in Colorado going out of its way now, 144 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.160 on top of everything else that's happened, going out of 145 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:13.040 its way to attract people here illegally when they know 146 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.920 that each and every person who comes here illegally, and 147 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:19.240 it's not a reflection on them personally as individuals, it's 148 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.360 just the reality of the carnage on the roadways. Each 149 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.639 and every additional person here illegally increases the risk to 150 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.720 everybody else on the roadway. And they know that large 151 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:33.840 scale ilegal immigration is as to a certainty, going to 152 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.799 cause large scale death just by virtue of the numbers 153 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:39.960 and what happens on the roadway. And that's before you 154 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:43.639 even get into the reality that when the Left does 155 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.440 these sort of things to attract folks here illegally, they 156 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:49.200 know that along with the otherwise good people who are 157 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.039 still going to pose the danger on a roadway, they're 158 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.080 attracting a whole bunch of people, smaller percentage, but a 159 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:59.440 whole bunch of people who are already criminals and have 160 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:02.759 already shown they don't care about anybody else's health, their life, 161 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.360 and they're going to be handing out a driver's license 162 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.720 to them as well. They won So talk about reckless 163 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:14.000 disregard for human life and awful, But what can we 164 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.000 do about it? I think there's an answer to that. 165 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.080 Eight five, five, four zero five eight two five to 166 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:22.039 five texts dam five seven, seven three nine. 167 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:26.600 And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 168 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.360 Of Colorado's handlin of the immigration crisis, as you know, 169 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.279 has been roundly criticized by the new Trump administration. 170 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:34.799 Just last week, Denver's mayor was in the hot seat 171 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.759 on Capitol Hill, grilled in front of members of Congress 172 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:41.960 over the city's immigration policies. Mike Johnston was joined by 173 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.080 other Democratic mayors to testify before the House Oversight and 174 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:49.000 Government Reform Committee. Now, state lawmakers want to allow undocumented 175 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.559 immigrants to obtain a driver's license every. 176 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.279 Seventh question, Lopez explains why they say this move could 177 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:55.440 make all the safer. 178 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:59.440 He got to stop it there, right, we'll get into 179 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:02.679 some of the detail. He's what they're doing. Obviously, Democrats 180 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:07.320 decided a while back, which was one of the stupidest 181 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:09.919 things they've ever done. But they knew it at the time, right, 182 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:12.559 that they were going to allow folks here I legally 183 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:15.159 to have driver's license. But what they just did was 184 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.960 make it so much more easy, so much easier, pardon 185 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.360 for folks here ilegally to get driver's license. And they 186 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:25.480 have to know this is going to cause a lot 187 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.000 more people to get killed on our roadways. That's the 188 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:34.519 undeniable reality. It's a magnet. It's obviously increasing danger on 189 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:39.159 multiple other levels. But they don't care. They don't care. 190 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:44.320 Their commitment to importing new voters from outside this country 191 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:48.360 is more important than the lives of the citizens of Colorado. 192 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.879 In their view, that's crystal clear. Let's go up to 193 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.000 beautiful Boulder. One of the great choice for me recently 194 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.000 has been going up to Boulder a lot because we 195 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.440 have a big case up there, going to trib and 196 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.879 in court there multiple times this week, and it's just 197 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.720 such a joy to walk in there. John and Boulder. 198 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.759 You're on the Dan Kaplas, You're welcome. 199 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:07.240 Thank you very much. 200 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.919 Dan. Have a question for you. So, I know many 201 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:17.120 of individuals that have been pulled over for violations and 202 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.879 they don't have their car registered, and they don't have 203 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:26.720 legal licenses, whether they're legal or illegal, but the police 204 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.279 don't seem to ever enforce the laws on the books 205 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:38.440 and like rebuke their licenses or take their vehicle away. 206 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:43.120 If one of these people hurts, somebody gets in an accident, 207 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:47.120 hurt somebody, do you can you go after the police 208 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.799 for not doing their job if they've been pulled over 209 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.840 multiple times they've and I've known it to happen to 210 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:55.799 people because I work at a volunteer center. I'm not 211 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:59.039 going to name anything. I know these people don't have licenses. 212 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:02.919 I know their cars are unregistered and they still drive, 213 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.600 and I know they've been pulled over. 214 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:08.159 And yeah, good question, John, thank you for the great question. 215 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:11.440 Answer is no, and it's fascinating. I mean, we could 216 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.240 spend several days on this fascinating body of law that's 217 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.440 grown up, I believe, originally to the US Supreme Court, 218 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:22.240 obviously of different individual state governmental immunity acts, but essentially no, 219 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.279 and thank you. What the clear law is at this 220 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.960 point unless an individual state somewhere is carved out. An 221 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:33.519 exception is that generally speaking, you're not able to go 222 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:40.000 after law enforcement civilly civil lawsuit for inaction like that, 223 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:44.200 for failing to enforce a particular law, for example. My 224 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.639 starting point though, would be to not be critical of 225 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.000 individual law enforcement officers or anything like that. I think 226 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.080 what's happening across this nation, except for a few bastions 227 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:59.440 of sanity, is the individual officers have been put in 228 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:03.519 an impossible situation by politicians and they get put there 229 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.279 in a lot of different ways. Right, And so if 230 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.440 you're talking about your real cops on the street, etc. 231 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.600 Like my dad was, no that they're just required to 232 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.639 follow the policies that are handed down. If you're talking 233 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:19.639 about the people at the highest political levels of law enforcement, 234 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:23.320 then yeah, a lot of those people have become politicians 235 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:28.159 and decisions are being made based on political ideology of say, 236 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:32.039 the mayor in the particular area, rather than on public safety. 237 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:35.759 But please don't blame the individual officers, because I just 238 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:36.919 think it's common sense. 239 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:37.120 Right. 240 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.639 I also know it from my life my dead a 241 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:42.799 cop for thirty years in Chicago. Is the vast, vast, 242 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.159 vast majority of men and women who become cops, right, 243 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:49.360 They become cops and decide to take on that risk 244 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.120 and a really hard job because they are committed to 245 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:57.720 protecting people and saving people and serving people. And so, yeah, 246 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.879 the crazy stuff, when you see something crazy, it's more 247 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.600 likely a political thing that has just been forced upon 248 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:09.600 the officers on the street. And we certainly see that 249 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.399 with the left now, right, I mean the way the 250 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:17.639 left has undermined law enforcement all over Colorado, and obviously 251 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:23.200 that's intentional. Right, do you think there's a more openly 252 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:28.600 blatantly pro criminal state in this nation than Colorado? I know, 253 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.320 the knee jerk reaction is all California must be California, 254 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:35.679 But it's hard to imagine. How could you be more 255 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:38.600 obviously pro criminal than Colorado? As I know you guys 256 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:41.159 talked about that yesterday, right Ryan, when Christy Burton Brown 257 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.840 is kind enough to fill in while I was in court. 258 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:46.840 And so now, thanks to the left in Colorado, you 259 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.360 can get a pr bond on some sex offenses. Yeah, 260 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:51.399 that makes a lot of sense. 261 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:51.679 Right. 262 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:55.120 On a much lighter note, I know that Ryan is 263 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.559 very concerned with the popularity of Michelle Obama's new podcast. 264 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:05.240 Somebody of Note with a platform who you know, by 265 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.279 every measure, looks successful. The first question is how I 266 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.159 think this podcast first and foremost gives us an opportunity 267 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.120 to hear from folks. You know, we're going to be 268 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.360 taking you know, questions from from listeners who are going 269 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:24.200 through through some things and just need a little advice 270 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:29.440 on what they want to hear from people in conversations. 271 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:31.559 Okay, that's what we're going to do. You know, we're 272 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.480 going to do the next segment, we're going to give advice. 273 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:40.120 We're going to give advice any area of your life. 274 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:43.200 You once screwed up, call this show and we will 275 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:47.840 give you advice. We should be an advice show. Now listen, 276 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:52.600 come on. We've we've been around a while, We've lived life, 277 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:55.559 We've learned a few things, some by trial and error. 278 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:57.480 Combine one hundred and seventeen years you and me. 279 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:01.080 But I think we are I think, I think, and 280 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.279 to the matter, I think, I think we can give 281 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.720 some advice. And if we don't know the answer, Kelly 282 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:11.639 does so. Inspired by Michelle Obama words I don't think 283 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.759 I've ever spoken before, inspired by Michelle Obama. This next 284 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:20.799 segment entirely devoted to giving you advice on anything under 285 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:23.840 the sun. It's a family show, so we'd ask that 286 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.120 if it's in that area, that you speak in generalities, 287 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:28.679 but we'll get the gist and we'll be able to 288 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:32.519 give you good advice in really every aspect of your life. 289 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.000 And it's certainly worth what you're going to pay for it. 290 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:37.639 Three h three someone three eight two five five text 291 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:42.679 dam five seven seven three nine Dan Knows Advice ahead 292 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:44.080 on the Dan Kapla Show. 293 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.000 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 294 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:52.679 Hey, as a guy who's had the pleasure of being 295 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.279 involved in the pro life movement since I was really 296 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.480 kind of a little boy, consider my mom, one of 297 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:02.720 the founders. In my eyes. Guys, you know that some 298 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.359 of the greatest heroes of the pro life movement are 299 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:09.000 people who've had abortions and people who used to do abortions. 300 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.119 And we have a woman with us right now, doctor 301 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.680 Catherine Wheeler, who is a former abortionist and just become 302 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.920 a tremendous hero in the pro life movement. Doctor, welcome 303 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.279 back to the Dan Kapla Show, and thank. 304 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:24.200 You so much for having me and for everything you 305 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:25.599 do for the pro life movement. 306 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.200 Well, thank you that that is kind of you to say. 307 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:32.400 And the reality is that, as you know, so many 308 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.759 do so much more, and they do it every day 309 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:37.599 and it's a lot tougher than talking into a microphone. 310 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:40.759 Like they're out there sitting outside the clinic trying to 311 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:44.240 save a baby and save a mom and they're just 312 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:46.640 so many heroes, but and you're one of them. So 313 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.839 thank you for popping on. And I know there's an 314 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.480 awfu luck going on at the legislature that's a little 315 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:54.839 hard to even wrap your mind around, but please bring 316 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:55.759 folks up to speed. 317 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.240 Thank you for that, you know we knew, and thank 318 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.319 you with Amendment seventy nine that you were one of 319 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:06.000 the people who helped us try to get information out 320 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:09.359 about what our concerns were about the amendment. And so 321 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:14.480 where we are now is the legislature, not all of them, 322 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:19.200 but the majority are trying to put in state statute 323 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.319 what they were hoping to accomplish with Amendment seventy nine. 324 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.440 And so we've seen just a flu of bills come 325 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:30.160 forward to put this in place, like taxpayer funding of abortion, 326 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:37.559 special protections for abortion providers. But on our side, we're 327 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.559 just trying to protect women. We're trying to protect the 328 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.319 medical professionals, and unfortunately, every one of the bills we've 329 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:47.759 brought has been killed in committee. The one I would 330 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:51.599 most appreciate talking about is one that just this week 331 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:55.799 we brought forward a bill, and our thanks to Representative 332 00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:00.400 Bottoms who went to that for us and for women, say, 333 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:06.160 but to regulate, because we have no clinic regulation, licensure, 334 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:12.440 or even credentialing processes to be sure that abortionists actually 335 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.519 have the training and the skills to do that safely. 336 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.519 And so we brought forward a bill to regulate second 337 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:24.079 and third trimester abortion facilities specifically because they are so 338 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:28.359 much more risky than first trimester ones, and we've actually 339 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:31.079 had a death in Colorado this year. We know there's 340 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:35.599 been quite a few complications, but because there's no regulation, 341 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:39.440 nobody looks into it, which is just a tragedy and 342 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:41.440 we know this is just the tip of the iceberg. 343 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:47.839 But again, unfortunately it failed in committee despite testimonies including 344 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.279 somebody who knew specifically about the young woman who died, 345 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.400 and presenting all of the evidence with none of it 346 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:59.119 refuted by the abortion industry, and still they voted it 347 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:03.559 down on party. So that's where our heart is this week, 348 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:06.720 is our concerns for women, especially being in the abortion 349 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:11.640 destination state. Our most recent data was thirty percent of 350 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.240 women who have abortions in Colorado come from out of state, 351 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:19.079 and we are, of course well known for late abortions. 352 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.799 We have a lot of late abortions, and they have 353 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.000 no idea they're coming. It's like the wild West. They 354 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.920 have no idea, they're coming to unsafe places that put 355 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:28.480 them at rest. 356 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:31.880 Well, doctor Catherine Whelier, I guess I mean by nature, 357 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:36.240 the abortion industry just by definition doesn't care about human life, right, 358 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:39.119 So there's no reason to sit here and think that, 359 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:41.799 in my opinion, that they'd care about the life of 360 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:44.839 the mother, right, because they don't. They know they're taking 361 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.599 an innocent human life, and that half of those are 362 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:50.519 female to begin with. So I guess it doesn't shock 363 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:54.240 me that they would be opposing your great bill designed 364 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:58.119 to protect mothers even while they're having abortions. I mean, 365 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.319 I think it's just there their mentality. 366 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.440 Well, we got hoped because they do like to proclaim 367 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:09.880 that they really do care about women and there afore 368 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:12.640 women and you know, having been on that side, you 369 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:15.839 literally believe that stuff. But we have hoped that if 370 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.880 you really care about women, all of us who've done 371 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.359 I did second trimester abortions, I can tell you how 372 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.640 dangerous they are and it's crazy to do those outside 373 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:29.880 of a regulated facility, like who would want healthcare that's 374 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:33.400 not regulated? So we had hoped that this would be 375 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:38.720 common ground because we believed that both of us really 376 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:41.759 cared about the woman and would want the best, safest 377 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.880 care for her. So it was highly disappointing. 378 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.240 And doctor keatn Wheeler, you've been so courageous and talking 379 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:52.839 about the fact you used to do these abortions. What 380 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:57.279 do you think the motivation is of most people now? 381 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:00.400 Because I think to become a doctor just kind of finisian. 382 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.680 People have to be blessed with some really significant gifts. Right, So, 383 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:08.960 anybody who's that intelligent, that skill data, you know, able 384 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.200 to navigate all those levels of education, et cetera. What 385 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.119 do you think motivates them to say, Okay, I'm going 386 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:20.640 to use my skills to go kill those humans. 387 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.720 Well, you know, we've had over fifty years since grow 388 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:28.160 versus Way and a narrative has been created. And if 389 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:30.920 we don't train our young people better to understand the 390 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.359 truth about the baby and the womb and their equal 391 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:38.200 value and dignity and what abortion actually is, then they 392 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:42.640 go on to higher education. And again I believe that 393 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:46.039 most people, at least initially truly care about the woman. 394 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:48.960 They see a woman in a hard situation and they're 395 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:51.680 told a woman has a choice. This is just a 396 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.480 hard choice he has the right to make. And if 397 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:56.480 you care about women, this is one of the things 398 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.440 that we do in medicine. They've worked really hard to 399 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:04.039 make it. Quote healthcare, which it is not. None of 400 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.559 healthcare takes the life of a patient intentionally, and that 401 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.400