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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Embracing Boredom. There was an article

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<v Speaker 1>in Vox all about embracing boredom, something we don't do anymore, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty good for us.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out we can use boredom to our advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we'll talk about that because sometimes you're on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone and you're scrolling and you know you're wasting time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so easy, and you realize that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a little benefit or a lot of a benefit to

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting in stillness, right. I mean, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a Buddhist monk and wear the robes and

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<v Speaker 1>shave your head and live in silence, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>nice not to be inundated with stimulation all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it before, So a trick on how

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<v Speaker 1>to embrace boredom, whether you're standing in the checkout line

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<v Speaker 1>or getting the car washed or what have you. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up later in the show, we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about compatibility. There are questions that therapists would ask, and

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<v Speaker 1>the love is blind pods to assess compatibility.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Love is Blind, good for you. I, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fully entrenched in Love is Blind.

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched all of the seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful television, highly addictive, garbage television. It does nothing

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<v Speaker 1>for your intellectual health.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Love is Blind is a show based on a group

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<v Speaker 1>of men and a group of women, usually late twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>early thirties, and they meet each other in these pods.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't see each other. They have these long conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>They are armed with questions for each other to get

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<v Speaker 1>to know each other, and at the end they settle

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<v Speaker 1>on one person. Usually they they're into two or three people,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they whittle it down to one person, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they propose to them at the end, And the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that they see each other is after proposal

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<v Speaker 1>has already been done, or it's at the time when

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<v Speaker 1>they first see each other, as when they propose, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody pulls out of it, because then you look like

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<v Speaker 1>an a hole, because then it's just that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the way he looks or she looks, or what

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<v Speaker 1>have you. But anyway, then they follow them to a

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<v Speaker 1>resort where they live together for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they follow them home where they live together the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in real life. But there are questions that

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<v Speaker 1>arise in the pods of is this somebody who I

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<v Speaker 1>could live with forever? And what kind of questions would

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<v Speaker 1>you think to ask if your son or daughter brought

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<v Speaker 1>home someone and they were serious, what question would you

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<v Speaker 1>say that they would have to get asked before they

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<v Speaker 1>took the next step. Let us know using the talkback

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<v Speaker 1>feature on the iHeartRadio app, because we will get to

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<v Speaker 1>that coming up later this hour. Well, Trump's speech to

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<v Speaker 1>Congress has all of the ingredients for a show. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what he is telling us. That is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be must see TV. The Trump says on the

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<v Speaker 1>social the night will be big. He will tell it

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<v Speaker 1>like it is. And like I said earlier, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't emboldened Trump. You're coming off the news that

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<v Speaker 1>President Zelenski and Ukraine now regrets that Oval Office meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with Trump. That's what he said, It did not go

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<v Speaker 1>the way it was supposed to be. That he is ready,

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<v Speaker 1>that Ukraine is ready to work fast end the war.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's going to see this as a major win and

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<v Speaker 1>tonight will be his victory.

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<v Speaker 2>Lap, Make no mistake about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He is going to be emboldened and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to what he says when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the tariffs. Right when you look at China and Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>The Target CEO already.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that you're going to see fruits and vegetable prices

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<v Speaker 1>go up because Target relies heavily on Mexico during the winter.

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<v Speaker 1>So what kinds of things will we see and how quickly?

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<v Speaker 1>And just don't put any credence into those things. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to what a trade war would do to inflation?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the endgame here? Is it just about the fentanyl?

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<v Speaker 1>Will he address that? Those are all things that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested to hear, and he will be speaking at six

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<v Speaker 1>pm our time. You would call it a state of

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<v Speaker 1>the Union. I mean, it's got all of the bells

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<v Speaker 1>and the whistles. It's got the Chambers of Congress, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got the Supreme Court Justices, you've got the secret person

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, it's just not called state of the

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<v Speaker 1>Union because of where it lands. But this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that he's going to be addressing Congress since

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<v Speaker 1>he took office, So it may be it may be

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<v Speaker 1>at the least contentious. There is going to be some protesting.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to Democrats, there is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>some talking back. It is going to be a show,

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<v Speaker 1>make no mistake about it. When it comes to what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on locally at LA City Hall. Right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>am watching people from the LA Fire Department, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>fire department union members or what have you, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>first time Kristin Crowley has appeared in public since she

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<v Speaker 1>was fired two weeks ago by Karen Bass, the mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the fight over who did what or who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do what when it came to the fires. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Monks from KFI News is in the chambers right now.

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<v Speaker 1>She's expected Kristin Crowley to make an appeal to the

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<v Speaker 1>council to save her job or to get her job

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<v Speaker 1>back as fire chief. And like I said, you could

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<v Speaker 1>see the slew of people in LA Fire Department T

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<v Speaker 1>shirts make their way inside. Michael Monks from KFI News

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<v Speaker 1>is inside. He has been texting me. He says it

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<v Speaker 1>is capacity crowd, hot is ticket in town, all the

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<v Speaker 1>media is there, a lot of Union supporters there as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but bass Is support are there as well. Public comment

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<v Speaker 1>until eleven forty five, he says, and then maybe showtime.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, probably you're going to get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of comments on both sides from people with the fire

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<v Speaker 1>department and people with the Bass camp, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>council will ask questions or you'll hear from Kristin Crowley

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven forty five, possibly both. Again, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what the council can do in terms of giving her

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<v Speaker 1>her job back. Karen Bass is not there, as Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Monks reported to us early, She's been going about her

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<v Speaker 1>day tweeting about the oscars and things like that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of treating this is rather insignificant.

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<v Speaker 2>As she moves forward, We're past that, We're.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on the way that she explained it was that

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Crowley was shown the door at the fire department

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<v Speaker 1>because it was under Kristin Crowley's watch that a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>firefighters were not at their post when the fire broke out,

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<v Speaker 1>that they were in fact sent home. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Crowley did not fill out the after action.

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<v Speaker 2>Report post fires. This is all clerical and silly.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason behind this is that Kristin Crowley came out

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<v Speaker 1>and laid Karen Bass squarely under the bus, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>City Hall and Karen Bass cut the fire department and

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<v Speaker 1>that it showed when those fires made their ways through

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<v Speaker 1>the Palisades and Alta Dina. All right, Coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we will go live to get a reaction on Capitol

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<v Speaker 1>Hill about the address, what lawmakers are expecting, and what

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<v Speaker 1>those fireworks will be when we hear from the President

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<v Speaker 1>tonight at six. Do you know the story about Ruby Frankie.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the mom of six kids who pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>filmed her kids growing up and put it on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this whole world that I was ignorant to families

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<v Speaker 1>that document their kids' lives and they share it and

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<v Speaker 1>just some of the intimate stuff as well about their

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<v Speaker 1>kids' lives, things that you would never think to share

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with your best friend or family or something like

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<v Speaker 1>that about your kids, but putting it out there on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube for everyone to see. It is a whole industry,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people are making thousands of dollars, tens of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars a month by seemingly exploiting their kids

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<v Speaker 1>for hits and likes and comments and fame, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of the poster child for how it can

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<v Speaker 1>all go wrong. There is a new documentary it's called

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<v Speaker 1>The Devil in the Family. I fell into it yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>on Hulu, and I think my jaw was open for

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<v Speaker 1>about eighty percent of the time I was watching this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just three parts, and the husband features prominently in

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary, and the whole time, I'm just wondering, what's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>With this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like such a good guy, normal smart. How

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<v Speaker 1>would you just go along for this crazy train ride

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as that he did. Anyway, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into it in the whole industry coming up in true

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<v Speaker 1>Crime Tuesday Crime, because yeah, this is a mom that

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<v Speaker 1>is serving time because of what she did to her

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<v Speaker 1>kids towards the end of seeking fame with her YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>America's two biggest lottery games are on the up and up.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no grand prize winner in the Powerball drawing yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>That jackpot has been pushed up to two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five million dollars ahead of the next drawing on tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe ahead of that, there's another chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>rich with mega millions. Tonight's drawing stands at two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen million dollars with a cash option just shy

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred and one million bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's something fun to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly, John Stewart is inviting Elon Muks to be a

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<v Speaker 1>guest on The Daily Show. Stuart criticized Musk's doze last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon posted on X he'd go on the show

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<v Speaker 1>if the interview aired unedited, and then on the show yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>John and Stuart says that they would be delighted to

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<v Speaker 1>have him. It can be fifteen minutes, an hour, two hours, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>so that would be fun to watch that conversation between

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<v Speaker 1>the two. We are in the midst of swamp watch

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot to do. We knew that when Trump

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<v Speaker 1>swept back into office there would be no boring swamp watch,

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<v Speaker 1>and there hasn't been, and my goodness. Usually a joint

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<v Speaker 1>addressed to Congress by a president is a snooze event.

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<v Speaker 1>It is something that we often think, oh, we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably listen to this, we should probably hear it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really want to. It's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining with President Biden. It got uncomfortable, didn't it. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets boring, It can get preachy at times, depending who

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<v Speaker 1>the president is. It's the same kind of verbiage about

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<v Speaker 1>moving America forward, and it's a pat on the back,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's here's what I want to do. All these

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<v Speaker 1>untenable goals. It's just the same, of the same and

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<v Speaker 1>more of the same. But tonight, tonight may be some fireworks.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump calling it must see TV, saying it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a big night. We've got the backdrop, a

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<v Speaker 1>backdrop of a trade war. We've got Ukrainian President Zelenski

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<v Speaker 1>Oval Office, which is sure to be a win in

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's mind. Kelly Meyer joins US Now Washington correspondent in

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<v Speaker 1>DC for our News Nation. Kelly is the one who

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<v Speaker 1>asks all the tough questions running around Capitol Hill all

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<v Speaker 1>day long. And Kelly, what is the vibe today on

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<v Speaker 1>Capitol Hill? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And right now we're actually over at the White House

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<v Speaker 3>right now as President Trump is getting ready for his

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<v Speaker 3>as well that he's going to address some of the accomplishments,

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<v Speaker 3>least after that Oval Office blow up last Friday. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>also be watching for this trade war that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>as President Trump put those twenty five percent tariffs on

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<v Speaker 3>as China, and then now we're seeing those countries firing

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<v Speaker 2>About the trade wars.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that the President has not wavered on

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<v Speaker 1>because he has said it has to do with fentanyl

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there were maybe nineteen interactions involving fentanyl at

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<v Speaker 1>something like ninety six hundred with Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just about the fentanyl?

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<v Speaker 1>Will he lay out his end game for these tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even he is threatening, just not too long

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<v Speaker 3>If they're hitting back with retaliatory tariffs, he's talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the reciprocal tariffs that will go back on in the

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<v Speaker 3>still threatening to come back with even more tariffs on

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<v Speaker 3>to not hurt American pocketbooks. But there are Democrats on

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<v Speaker 3>Capitol Hill kind of rallying ahead of this address tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>So Elon Musk will be there tonight. We saw him

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a lot of surprises and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of made for TV moments. Any idea what those would entail,

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<v Speaker 3>We are at the White House that we might check

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<v Speaker 3>back and see if there's anything else they could share.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot they're keeping under wraps. We know the theme,

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<v Speaker 3>the First Lady, about fifteen guests total, and traditionally presidents

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<v Speaker 3>use that as a way to highlight parts of their agenda.

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<v Speaker 3>But we don't know exactly what the surprises might be.

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<v Speaker 3>But we do know if they've been pointing to this

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<v Speaker 3>as more of a you know, made for TV production type.

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<v Speaker 3>He has done reality TV. It is somewhat of the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump Show. So they did say to Toomid and that

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<v Speaker 3>they called it must see TV. At least Caroline Levett

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard anything in in terms of protests.

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<v Speaker 1>I read that there are some Democrats that will have

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of showing of resistance, I guess for lack

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think we can't expect that there's going

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<v Speaker 3>We've heard more and more throughout the day that there's

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<v Speaker 3>some members announcing that they're just not going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something, you know, they'll wear something specific or color

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<v Speaker 3>and as a way of kind of protesting. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if we'll see any actions you know, we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, you know, Pelosi rip up the speech

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<v Speaker 3>or do the kind of side alligator clap back. So

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<v Speaker 3>there may be some moments, but it's definitely going to

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<v Speaker 3>of push back against this. But we also know there's

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<v Speaker 3>been things happening throughout the day outside the capital with

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats speaking out with protests, so we can't expect it

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<v Speaker 3>to be very lively for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Kelly Meyer, White House correspondent there with News Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much. A lot going on there today and

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<v Speaker 1>you will stay on top of it. Just like News

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<v Speaker 1>Nation always so appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, coming up, Well, we will stand top of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on there and KFI will take the address

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<v Speaker 1>live tonight at six o'clock. And if they're advertising made

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<v Speaker 1>for TV moments, I think that's what we're going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a Pambondi special. I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>something in these binders, but we will find out. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>to let us know what is your compatibility question? There

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<v Speaker 1>are therapists that work for the Love Is Blind franchise

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<v Speaker 1>and say they've got a series of questions that they

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<v Speaker 1>a couple should agree upon to go the distance? Let

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<v Speaker 1>us know using that talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app

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<v Speaker 1>and we will tackle that later this hour. Big day

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<v Speaker 1>locally and nationally when it comes to politics. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>all the doings going on are at La City Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>where ousted fire chief Kristin Crowley is expected to plead

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<v Speaker 1>as Michael Monks is in the chambers and says the

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<v Speaker 1>action's about to start within about ten minutes in terms

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<v Speaker 1>Lives should s go down, for lack of a better term,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got President Trump addressing a joint session of Congress

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<v Speaker 2>He says it will be must see TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the backdrop of a trade war, all this

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<v Speaker 1>mess with Ukraine. The Ukrainian President coming out today and

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<v Speaker 2>Big news coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the NFL Eagles rewarding Saquon Barkley with a

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<v Speaker 1>two year, forty one point two million dollar contract extension

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<v Speaker 1>he is not different, he is almost breaking Eric Dickerson's

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<v Speaker 1>just a great guy. I don't know him, but seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>not a better guy. That could happen too. Dolly Parton's son,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, she never had kids. Dolly Parton and her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>they were together for sixty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Old, has died, and there are so many fun little

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that he kind of stayed out of the limelight.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to one award show with her in sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six and then said, you know what, I'm done with those.

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<v Speaker 1>the Wishy Washy laundromat. I love that, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I love those stories boredom. There was an article in

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<v Speaker 1>If you had parents that said i'll give you something

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<v Speaker 1>to be bored about, good for you. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>We're constantly stimulated by our phones, and you can argue

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<v Speaker 1>to get washed or what have you. But James Dankert

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<v Speaker 1>If we're being honest with ourselves, we're all addicted to

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<v Speaker 1>when the feeling does arise is boredom, to use it

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<v Speaker 1>Dangerous road when you come home and you smell that

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<v Speaker 1>For circumstances, he writes, where you're unable to up and leave,

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<v Speaker 1>this meaning? That's awful advice. I mean, come on, start

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<v Speaker 1>making up false narratives about people you work with in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. That's a fun time. You're sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>boring meeting to be like, I wonder what he's into

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<v Speaker 1>at home? You know, is this a guy who walks

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<v Speaker 1>around in his underwear? Is his wife tired of that?

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<v Speaker 1>That gives you more entertainment than thinking about your meaning

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<v Speaker 1>and your workplace. I say, if you're growing impatient on

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<v Speaker 1>a long road trip, find challenges or ways to make

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<v Speaker 1>the situation more stimulating, that car games exists for a reason,

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<v Speaker 1>or make your own up. The author says, my brother

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<v Speaker 1>and I growing up used to play this game called

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<v Speaker 1>who would You ask for Help? In this room right now?

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<v Speaker 1>If you had to pick one person to ask for help,

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<v Speaker 1>who would it be? And why that's stupid? As well?

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<v Speaker 1>Whether there's the fun in that find the most reliable

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<v Speaker 1>person and identify them. Now you want to play the

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<v Speaker 1>game called who would you not ask for help? And

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<v Speaker 1>then talk about why they're awful and why they would

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<v Speaker 1>not be the person that you that you look to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>An awful book. I mean, I'm sure there's some I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's some good things in here. They say that

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<v Speaker 1>the solution to a soul crushingly boring job might be

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<v Speaker 1>to find another one. Well, no, s but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>always easy or realistic for many people. So he suggests

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<v Speaker 1>reframing your current employment situation. You're not living to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you're working to live. Now that I can get on

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<v Speaker 1>board with. I think too infrequently you're thinking that your

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<v Speaker 1>job should be everything and it should be perfect for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not what it's there for. It's just there

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<v Speaker 1>for the money. You're just going there for the paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking for fulfillment, look elsewhere. It's not at work.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably except for my job. I feel totally fulfilled. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it here. Coming up after Deborah's news at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the hour, Well, of course, Deborah will have

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<v Speaker 1>all the news, and we will try to even give

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<v Speaker 1>you more news when we talk about what's happening and

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<v Speaker 1>everything everyone's talking about everywhere. We tackle it all every

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<v Speaker 1>day here at twelve o'clock on the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 1>If you missed any of the show, make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app. There at

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<v Speaker 1>Gary and Shannon, we are awaiting two things. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things is happening right now at La City Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>as ousted fire Chief Kristin Crowley is there inside the

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<v Speaker 1>chambers expected to ask the city council for her job.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, I want to say, unprecedented, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty years that I've been reporting in La. This

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen the mayor there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and this is now do we have this anywhere?

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<v Speaker 4>Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>She has just taken a seat behind the podium there

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<v Speaker 1>inside the council chambers. Kristin Crawley has to appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>the City Council to be reinstated with her job.

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<v Speaker 2>We should have it up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Channel four has it if we can pull that up,

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<v Speaker 1>guys getting around to the plaza there, Kristin Crowley is

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<v Speaker 1>it's filled, by the way. The chambers is with LA

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<v Speaker 1>Fire Department officials, union members. They put out the call

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<v Speaker 1>this morning and people answered. It is standing room only

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<v Speaker 1>inside the LA City Hall chambers right now as she

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<v Speaker 1>appeals for her job back.

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<v Speaker 5>We extended an invitation to Chief Crowley to speak to

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<v Speaker 5>this hearing this morning to make the case, and so

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<v Speaker 5>she has contented to join us this morning, and so

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<v Speaker 5>we will hear from her first.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning everyone, Good morning, Council President. Are honored and

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<v Speaker 6>very very honored City Council members, our community members that

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<v Speaker 6>have taken the time to be here and to listen

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<v Speaker 6>in and two are amazing and incredible LAFD firefighters who

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<v Speaker 6>do the work every single day. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 6>for being here. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I stand.

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<v Speaker 3>Or sit.

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<v Speaker 6>Before you today not only as the former fire chief

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<v Speaker 6>appealing to be reinstated, but as a leader who has

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<v Speaker 6>always placed the safety, health and well being of our

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<v Speaker 6>incredible and heroic firefighters first, while always balancing and prioritizing

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<v Speaker 6>the needs of the community that we love to serve. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>our firefighters, as you all know, are the absolute heart

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<v Speaker 6>and soul of the LAFD. As public servants, we took

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<v Speaker 6>an oath to place the needs of others before our

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<v Speaker 6>own at great personal risk. We will do anything and

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<v Speaker 6>everything that we can do to save lives and to

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<v Speaker 6>protect property. It is our calling and it is our duty.

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<v Speaker 6>Now adds the fire Chief, it was my duty and

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<v Speaker 6>responsibility to ensure that our firefighters have everything they need

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<v Speaker 6>to do their jobs and to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 6>go home to their families the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Standing up.

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<v Speaker 6>Doing the right thing, and advocating for our firefighters, their families,

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<v Speaker 6>and for the communities that we serve are the reasons

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<v Speaker 6>that I am here today. Over my twenty five year career,

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<v Speaker 6>in all of the ranks that I have held, I

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<v Speaker 6>have seen our fire department struggle from year to year

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<v Speaker 6>with limited funding, staffing, and resources. We are past the

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<v Speaker 6>point of sustaining our services without compromising public safety and

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<v Speaker 6>the safety of our firefighters. For nearly three years as

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<v Speaker 6>the fire chief, I have submitted realistic budget requests that

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<v Speaker 6>were carefully crafted based on data, reports, analysis, and recommendations

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<v Speaker 6>from outside independent agencies that show just how understaffed and

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<v Speaker 6>under resource the LAFD is. Since twenty ten, there's been

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<v Speaker 6>a fifty five percent increase in overall calls for fire

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<v Speaker 6>and emergency services with fewer firefighters providing those life saving services.

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<v Speaker 6>And yes, the LAFD is half the size we should

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<v Speaker 6>be regarding the firefighter or paramedic positions. Lack of long

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<v Speaker 6>term investments in the LAFD. Budget cuts have led to

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<v Speaker 6>increased response times, lack of available fire engines, trucks and ambulances,

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<v Speaker 6>deleted civilians, support staff and mechanics, identified gaps in fire

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<v Speaker 6>and emergency services, infrastructure challenges, firefighter fatigue, firefighter mental health concerns,

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<v Speaker 6>and injuries to our firefighters. We know that our firefighters

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<v Speaker 6>are asked to do more with less every single day.

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<v Speaker 6>When we fail to take care of our firefighters, we

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<v Speaker 6>fail to take care of our communities. I do believe

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<v Speaker 6>that there is a path forward, one that finds a

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<v Speaker 6>way to keep our communities safe by investing in long

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<v Speaker 6>term strategies to build out the LAFD the right way,

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<v Speaker 6>through your leadership, every single person around this horseshoe, through

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<v Speaker 6>your leadership, the support of our amazing communities that we

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<v Speaker 6>love to serve, and the continued dedication and commitment sacrifice

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<v Speaker 6>of our firefighters. I am certain, deep down in my

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<v Speaker 6>heart that we can find a way to fund and

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<v Speaker 6>support the LAFD now and into the future. Next, in

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<v Speaker 6>regard to my appeal, now, I will set the record

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<v Speaker 6>straight about the multiple false accusations that were made against me. First,

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<v Speaker 6>I did not refuse to conduct an after action report,

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<v Speaker 6>and let me be clear, this is a false accusation.

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<v Speaker 6>During our discussions after an action after report, I should say,

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<v Speaker 6>during our discussions about and after action report, I advised

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<v Speaker 6>the fire commissioners about my opinion that was best in

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<v Speaker 6>regard to how to use LAFD resources, I said that

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<v Speaker 6>the LFD is not capable nor do we have the

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<v Speaker 6>proper resources to adequately conduct an after action report for

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<v Speaker 6>the Palisades fire. Due to the sheer, magnitude, scope and

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<v Speaker 6>complexity of the incident, we are already understaffed, under resourced, underfunded,

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<v Speaker 6>and based on my knowledge of the lafd's resources and capabilities,

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<v Speaker 6>I recommended simply to collaborate with Governor Newsom's already selected

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<v Speaker 6>and funded Agency Fire Safety Research Institute or FSRI, because

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<v Speaker 6>they are already conducting in independent analysis of the windstorm

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<v Speaker 6>and fire events in the Los Angeles and Ventura Counties.

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<v Speaker 6>In contrast to the LAFD, FSRI has a capability to

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<v Speaker 6>conduct a proper, thoroughly researched and analyzed after action report

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<v Speaker 6>and wildfire analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>And listening to Kristin Crowley, ousted fired chief here in

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<v Speaker 1>La pleading for her job back at city Hall, you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to KFI kosd HD two Los Angeles or Inn County.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what they are already being paid to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Prior to me leaving the meeting, the fire commissioners agreed

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<v Speaker 6>with my recommendation that FSRI is the best equipped to

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<v Speaker 6>conduct the after action report. FSRI will also be publishing

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<v Speaker 6>its findings and recommendations, like it did for the line

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<v Speaker 6>of fire that occurred in early August twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 6>on the island of Maui. Now, my position has not changed,

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<v Speaker 6>and I wholeheartedly support the need for a professional organization

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<v Speaker 6>to conduct a full analysis of the Palisades fire. We

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<v Speaker 6>owe that to the community. We owe that to the

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<v Speaker 6>Fire Service, and that is the path forward. These steps

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<v Speaker 6>are essential to improving response efforts, guiding recovery, and building

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<v Speaker 6>a better and safer disaster resilience community for our future. Second,

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<v Speaker 6>on the morning of the fire, I did not send

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<v Speaker 6>home one thousand firefighters who could have hopped on fire

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<v Speaker 6>engine and fought the Palisades fired, Nor did I leave

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<v Speaker 6>forty available fire engines unstaffed. These are all false accusations.

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<v Speaker 6>As well, the forty fire engines in question were already

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<v Speaker 6>staffed and running nine one one calls with on duty

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<v Speaker 6>personnel in their normal configuration when the Palisades fire broke out.

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<v Speaker 6>Those fire engines were appropriately staffed and were used where

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<v Speaker 6>they were needed. Additionally, at eight hundred hours on January seventh,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty five, the LAFD pre deployed twenty four engines,

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<v Speaker 6>three battalion command teams, five brush patrols, two water tenders,

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<v Speaker 6>additional air operations personnel, and additional dispatchers. These one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and twenty eight pre deployed and augmented personnel were strategically

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<v Speaker 6>placed in wildfire prone areas across the entire city, near

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<v Speaker 6>multiple freeways to ensure a rapid response. Our action were

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<v Speaker 6>based on the recommendations of our subject matter experts, the

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<v Speaker 6>lafd's emergency operations staff. As for the thousand firefighters who

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<v Speaker 6>allegedly were sent home prior to the fires, we did

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<v Speaker 6>not have enough apparatus to put them on because of

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<v Speaker 6>the budget cuts and lack of investments in our fleet maintenance.

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<v Speaker 6>Over one hundred of our fire engines, fire trucks and

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<v Speaker 6>ambulances sat broken down in our maintenance yards, unable to

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<v Speaker 6>be used to help during one of the worst wildfire

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<v Speaker 6>events in our history. And third, it is also a

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<v Speaker 6>false allegation that we failed to notify the Mayor's office

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<v Speaker 6>about the upcoming weather event. I stand by our previous

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<v Speaker 6>statements about this. The LAFD engaged in all of its

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<v Speaker 6>standard communications, including emailing two separate media advisories, conducting multiple

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<v Speaker 6>live and recorded media interviews about the predicted extreme weather

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<v Speaker 6>and fire danger, and also notify in city officials about

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<v Speaker 6>the upcoming war other events. The Emergency Management Department also

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<v Speaker 6>plays a key role in notifying the Mayor's Office. In

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<v Speaker 6>City officials and the Mayor's office itself also set out

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<v Speaker 6>multiple media messages prior to the fire's warnings about the

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<v Speaker 6>expected destructive and potential life threatening windstorm. It is never

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<v Speaker 6>the wrong time to do the right thing and to

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<v Speaker 6>speak the truth. And the truth is that the fire

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<v Speaker 6>chief should not be prevented from or punished for speaking

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<v Speaker 6>openly and honestly about the needs and capabilities of the LFD,

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<v Speaker 6>or for doing their best to protect our firefighters and

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<v Speaker 6>our communities. In closing, it has been an absolute honor

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<v Speaker 6>of my life to serve and represent the incredible men

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<v Speaker 6>and women of the LAFD as their fire chief. Our

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<v Speaker 6>people do amazing things every single day and I am

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<v Speaker 6>so grateful beyond words to have been in this position

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<v Speaker 6>for nearly three years. We have much to be proud of,

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<v Speaker 6>and we stand with and always will stand with the

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<v Speaker 6>communities that we serve with integrity, compassion and courage. I

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<v Speaker 6>urge you to vote to reinstate me as a fire chief.

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<v Speaker 6>But no matter how the vote goes, the LAFD, your

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<v Speaker 6>LAFD deserves to be properly funded, staffed, and resourced so

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<v Speaker 6>that we can meet the ever growing needs of the community.

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<v Speaker 6>We owe that to the LAFD, and we owe that

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<v Speaker 6>to those we serve. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Kristin Crowley, ousted fire chief there making her case

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<v Speaker 1>to the city council to reinstate her as chief. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if any of the council members ask questions of

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<v Speaker 1>her or speak up here a couple of rows of

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<v Speaker 1>firefighters applauding her comments there, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>Mister city attorney.

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<v Speaker 7>So to the extent and thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>The extent that.

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<v Speaker 7>There is any additional discussion, I would just like to

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<v Speaker 7>remind people in detail, because I know you were at

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<v Speaker 7>the table at the time, that to please be cognizant

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<v Speaker 7>of the attorney client privilege when it comes to answers

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<v Speaker 7>or questions. That includes discussions that were held in closed session.

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<v Speaker 7>That includes individual communications via email, text, or during conversations

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<v Speaker 7>with the attorneys.

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<v Speaker 5>So thank you, all right, Council Member Rodriguez, thank you, Thank.

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<v Speaker 8>You Chief Crowley for being here. So, mister Harris Dawson,

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<v Speaker 8>I have a question because there's also some additional information

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<v Speaker 8>that I believe can corroborate some of what Chief Crowley

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<v Speaker 8>has asserted in terms of her cooperation that could be

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<v Speaker 8>validated by the CEO's office. Is it an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 8>if Matt Zabo or Ben Seharer here to answer any questions,

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<v Speaker 8>because what we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Discussing is Monica Rodriguez, council member from the seventh District.

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<v Speaker 8>Afford and honor the chief's appeal based on the cited

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<v Speaker 8>reasons that we're disclosed by the mayor for her dismissal,

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<v Speaker 8>and if we have facts to corroborate her position, I

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<v Speaker 8>think that's that's warranted to be heard. And so my

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<v Speaker 8>question is, would I be afforded the opportunity to ask

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<v Speaker 8>mister Zabel to come forward on some of the assertions

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<v Speaker 8>that were made that led to her dismissal so that

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<v Speaker 8>we could correct the record.

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<v Speaker 5>I will defer to the city attorney on that question,

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<v Speaker 5>but I will point out I will disagree with councilor.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember Rodriguez, the city attorney was very clear that the

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<v Speaker 5>mayor can fire the chief for any reason or for

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<v Speaker 5>no reason at all. So whether or not we establish

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<v Speaker 5>that we agree with the assessment that the mayor made

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<v Speaker 5>or we don't agree with the assessment, it doesn't call

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<v Speaker 5>into question the mayor's authority to make the decision that

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<v Speaker 5>she did.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not questioning the mayor's authority. I'm not questioning the

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<v Speaker 8>mayor's authority. I'm questioning what was cited as the reason.

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<v Speaker 8>And if we're going to consider Chief Crowley's appeal, why

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<v Speaker 8>wouldn't we consider the facts as we know them that

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<v Speaker 8>could be corroborated by the CEO's office. And that's what

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<v Speaker 8>I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're asking this one who can show the math

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<v Speaker 1>of why Kristin Crowley was showing the.

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<v Speaker 5>So again, it's fine to do that. I just want

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<v Speaker 5>to be clear that even if you were to discredit

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<v Speaker 5>every one of the reasons, it does not it does

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<v Speaker 5>not in any way shade the mayor's authority in this regard.

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<v Speaker 5>But we'll call the city administrative officer up to take

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<v Speaker 5>the questions that you have, and we'll excuse Miss Crowley

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<v Speaker 5>from the table at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Zabo, by the way, used to be Viara Gosa's

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<v Speaker 1>a DRED years ago.

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<v Speaker 8>During our budget deliberations, your office recommended when we had

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<v Speaker 8>requested investigating the fire department's request for the additional mechanics

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<v Speaker 8>to repair the apparatus, when your office recommended against funding

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<v Speaker 8>those positions. Was there anybody on your staff that went

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<v Speaker 8>out to verify the number of apparatus that were out

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<v Speaker 8>of commission at the time. I'm looking at a memo

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<v Speaker 8>dated May eighth, twenty twenty four, that your office does

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<v Speaker 8>not recommend the department's requests for the additional positions.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe so, Matzebo, City Administrative Officer. The recommendation

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<v Speaker 4>in the budget memo would have been related to the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that the positions that were eliminated were vacant positions,

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<v Speaker 4>and many of them had been vacant for some time.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, So we'll pull away from this because they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into the weeds of line by line

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<v Speaker 1>of why the city Council made the decisions that it

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<v Speaker 1>made with the help of the mayor to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>with these cuts that Christen Crowley just testified before the

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<v Speaker 1>City Council, if that's the right word, that really led

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<v Speaker 1>to the department being understaffed and underfunded to take on

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<v Speaker 1>fires of this size are really just everyday business for

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<v Speaker 1>the fire department. Michael Monks from KFI News has been

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<v Speaker 1>covering this story, joins us now and it seems like now, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>the city council members are asking the Controller's office for

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<v Speaker 1>the city to kind of show the math behind the

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<v Speaker 1>decision to get rid of Kristin Crowley, and because she's

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<v Speaker 1>pushing back saying that she didn't make the decisions to

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<v Speaker 1>keep those one thousand firefighters home, and that she gave

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<v Speaker 1>the right reasons for more money to be sent to

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<v Speaker 1>the fire department before the council.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, I mean, this is going to be an argument

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<v Speaker 9>today about math in a lot of ways. The main

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<v Speaker 9>math equation we've been talking about is she needs ten

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<v Speaker 9>on a of fifteen council members. But there's also budget

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<v Speaker 9>math to look at, because in the aftermath of these fires,

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<v Speaker 9>we heard Chief Crowley say, we didn't get the funding

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<v Speaker 9>that we need to be as prepared as we should

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<v Speaker 9>be for a massive wildfire like the one that devastated

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<v Speaker 9>the Palisades. We don't have the manpower, and when we

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<v Speaker 9>do have manpower, we don't have the equipment. And so

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<v Speaker 9>that's what they're going to be digging into. That's been

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<v Speaker 9>her defense in many ways all along. Was the disaster

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<v Speaker 9>unfolded the way it did not because I didn't send

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<v Speaker 9>a text message to Mayor Bass about the forecast, but

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<v Speaker 9>because we are not physically prepared to attack a fire

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<v Speaker 9>of this nature in those conditions, because of decisions made

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<v Speaker 9>outside of this department by city Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's making it less about her and her performance

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<v Speaker 1>and more about the fact that she came before these

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<v Speaker 1>same people and to her point, laid out why they

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<v Speaker 1>are basically compromising the safety of all of us in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles and themselves with being so underfunded that there

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<v Speaker 1>was outside resources, outside agencies that came in even and

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<v Speaker 1>made the case that the LA Fire Department is vastly underfunded.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess we're going to hear a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>of what was already litigated before these same people.

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<v Speaker 9>Certainly, you've got Matt Sabo, the city administrator there, who

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<v Speaker 9>crafts the budget and presents it to council each year.

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<v Speaker 9>I sat through a lot of budget meetings fast fiscal

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<v Speaker 9>year leading up to this very budget that was approved,

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<v Speaker 9>and there were certainly declarations of upset about the fire

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<v Speaker 9>Department's budget, but every department was cut except for the

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<v Speaker 9>Police department, Street Services, animal Services, public works. All of

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<v Speaker 9>the departments took hits except for the police department. But

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<v Speaker 9>the Fire department was very vocal and even then that

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<v Speaker 9>they were not getting their fair share of what they need.

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<v Speaker 9>So that is documented. This city is in a financial crisis.

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<v Speaker 9>Just about as it is anyway. Their financial condition has

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<v Speaker 9>only gotten worse this year. That guy that you just

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<v Speaker 9>heard speaking, Matt Zabo, has his hands full with getting

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<v Speaker 9>ready to enter another budget season in a year that's

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<v Speaker 9>going to be far worse than it was last year,

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<v Speaker 9>which was already bad.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Michael Monks. Michael, by the way, came to

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<v Speaker 1>LA and said, I want to live at City Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be the reporter that pays attention to

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did. He basically lived at City.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall for a very long time and is entrenched for

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<v Speaker 1>days like today when we need to know what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is going on. Everybody has their own story and

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<v Speaker 1>he's been able to dig through the details and tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what's what. Appreciate your time Michael today and he

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<v Speaker 1>will be monitoring things as they continue there in the

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<v Speaker 1>chambers and City Hall. We'll bring you all the pertinent

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<v Speaker 1>information that comes out of that. Again, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get very granular when it comes to line by line

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<v Speaker 1>budget items of who's telling the right story. We're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to find out in the end that yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>LA Fire Department is underfunded, where's up money going and

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<v Speaker 1>where did it go? Instead of the Fire Department. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have those answers at this point, but this may

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<v Speaker 1>go the distance through the afternoon. Again, We'll stay on

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<v Speaker 1>top of it, as will Michael Monks there from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>News at La City Hall.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 9>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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