Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Sunday Service, Episode eight, brought
Speaker 1: to you by Cult the Conspiracy Podcast. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Josh Monday from the Josh Monday Christian Conspiracy Podcast. We
Speaker 1: have a banger for you guys today. We have two
Speaker 1: special guests. We have Ryan Pitterson.
Speaker 2: He is the author of the Final Nephiline. Hopefully you
Speaker 2: guys can see this. I'm gonna try to do that. Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard to see the Final Nephilim.
Speaker 2: I got a big light right there.
Speaker 1: And also his first book, he wrote, the Judgment of
Speaker 1: the nephil It's hard to see.
Speaker 2: There we go. Judgment of the Nephiline And how you doing?
Speaker 3: Ryan doing wonderful, Josh. Great to be back on with
Speaker 3: you and Gary as well.
Speaker 1: And he's also the host of Thursday Night Theology. You
Speaker 1: want to check that out on his judgment of the
Speaker 1: nephil on YouTube and yeah, it is an awesome show.
Speaker 2: He does a live and he has people send.
Speaker 1: In questions and he answers the questions and does an
Speaker 1: amazing job at that. And then so our next guest,
Speaker 1: he needs no introduction like Ryan, doesn't. We have Gary
Speaker 1: Wayne he's the author of the Genesis six Conspiracy.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could see it, well, it's
Speaker 2: going to be hard.
Speaker 1: There we go perfect Genesis six Conspiracy and also his
Speaker 1: other book, if you guys can, if you could shout
Speaker 1: that out Gary for me, your second book. I know
Speaker 1: it's the genesisis Conspiracy. I don't remember the ending of it.
Speaker 1: There we go, Part two. I think you're on mute.
Speaker 1: I think you're on mute.
Speaker 4: Gary, Yeah, sorry about that. That's part two. And it's
Speaker 4: instead of how secret society is in the sentence of
Speaker 4: giants plan to enslave humankind, it's how understanding prehistory and
Speaker 4: giants helps to define end time prophecy. And but two
Speaker 4: was written especially for Christians who wanted to go deeper
Speaker 4: into the Bible and in a way that other people
Speaker 4: hadn't done it or further because a lot of the
Speaker 4: things that Heiser did or what Ryan did, they go deep.
Speaker 4: But they wanted sort of a more holistic biblical as
Speaker 4: research done on it, and to go deeper on a
Speaker 4: lot of different as it. So I had to cover
Speaker 4: again a lot of material, but it's not hard. There's
Speaker 4: a ton of information that's available.
Speaker 2: So and these books.
Speaker 1: All these books are conspiracy theorist dream man. This will
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Speaker 1: And these guys that come on shows for free and
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Speaker 1: I see Gary Wade on a bunch of different shows.
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Speaker 4: Yeah? So. And one other shameless promotion is book one
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Speaker 1: All right, awesome, and then shout out your website, Ryan, please, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure. My website is Judgment of the Neephylene dot Com
Speaker 3: one word of course, and there you can find the books. Also,
Speaker 3: I've study guides. I have documentaries on the books as
Speaker 3: well as my newest documentary and Time Nepheline Deception and
Speaker 3: available there or on Amazon.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I've had both these gentlemen on the Josh
Speaker 1: Monday Christian Conspiracy podcast. We've had roundtables. We've had episodes
Speaker 1: where it's just you know, me and them talking. So
Speaker 1: if you guys could check those out too, I'd really
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll get into this.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a Genesis six roundtable. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be. I'll start off by reading the verse that
Speaker 1: is like the main meat, and then these guys and
Speaker 1: unpack the verse. And also, you know, I have some
Speaker 1: questions for them, and I'm sure they have a plenty
Speaker 1: of information for you, Jenna, for you guys. So I'll
Speaker 1: start off by reading Genesis six, verses one through four.
Speaker 1: This is where the main part of this verse, but
Speaker 1: it goes throughout the whole entire Bible, not just this,
Speaker 1: but this is one of the main ones. So it says,
Speaker 1: now it came to pass when the men began to
Speaker 1: multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were
Speaker 1: born to them, that the sons of God saw the
Speaker 1: daughters of men, that they were beautiful, and they took
Speaker 1: wives for themselves, of all whom they chose. And the
Speaker 1: Lord said, my spirits shall not strive with man forever,
Speaker 1: for he is indeed flesh. Yet his days I'll be
Speaker 1: numbered to one hundred and twenty years. They were giants
Speaker 1: on the earth in those days. And also afterward, when
Speaker 1: the sons of God came into the daughters of men,
Speaker 1: they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men
Speaker 1: who were of old men of renown. So there we go.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the main verse. If you guys can
Speaker 1: kind of unpack what was happening there, I really appreciate
Speaker 1: it and kind of go over what we have happening
Speaker 1: there and the importance of this as well.
Speaker 2: We can start off with you Ryan and then we'll
Speaker 2: go to Gary.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, So for me, in order to really understand
Speaker 3: the context of Genesis, six ' four. You really have
Speaker 3: to go back to Genesis three and Genesis three fifteen,
Speaker 3: because this is what sets the stage for this first
Speaker 3: incursion or invasion of fallen angels into the human realm.
Speaker 3: And so in Genesis three, of course that's the story
Speaker 3: of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, and
Speaker 3: of course the first sin and humanity. You have God
Speaker 3: in verse fifteen Genesis three fifteen pronouncing a judgment upon
Speaker 3: Satan and telling the devil that his conqueror was going
Speaker 3: to be a seed, a human child who was going
Speaker 3: to be born one day, who is going to crush
Speaker 3: the head or defeat the devil. And so what I
Speaker 3: try to do in judgment and Ethlene is put the
Speaker 3: reader in the shoes of the fallen angels. See it
Speaker 3: from their perspective, right, if you think about you know,
Speaker 3: all sorts of shows and movies we see, right, the
Speaker 3: enemy is being told who is conqueror is going to
Speaker 3: be a child's gonna be born one day. So his
Speaker 3: mission now is to stop to prevent the birth of
Speaker 3: this Messiah, to either stop the Messiah from being born,
Speaker 3: to destroy him at a young age, or somehow thwart
Speaker 3: the plan of God's salvation and redemption of humanity. And
Speaker 3: that's what leads to the events of Genesis six. Because
Speaker 3: you know, what I show is that you have the
Speaker 3: first son of Adam and Eve, Cain. Of course, Cain
Speaker 3: enable the first two sons, but Kane himself, the first
Speaker 3: son of Adam and Eve. From the fallen angelic perspective,
Speaker 3: he could have been the Messiah, right. He was the
Speaker 3: first seed, offspring of the woman of Eve. And so
Speaker 3: we see that Cain is completely corrupted by Satan, so
Speaker 3: much so in the news Testament it says that he
Speaker 3: is of that wicked one, that he is literally so corrupted,
Speaker 3: seduced by the devil. He's in line with him, and
Speaker 3: he murders his brother, so that he's almost disqualifying two
Speaker 3: potential messiahs in one shot. But God, in this back
Speaker 3: and forth, what God does is, of course he banishes
Speaker 3: Cane from Eden altogether to allow the Messianic lineage, the
Speaker 3: lineage that was gonna lead to this seed, to continue
Speaker 3: through Seth, the third son of Adam and Eve, and
Speaker 3: the Godly lineage starts expanding. Right. God tells Adam and
Speaker 3: Eve be fruitful multiply, and now the idea of trying
Speaker 3: to to stop one son at a time was no
Speaker 3: longer going to be effective. Satan needed a large scale attack,
Speaker 3: and this is what sets the stages in Genesis chapter six,
Speaker 3: because in fact, in verse one of Genesis six, it
Speaker 3: actually says when men began to multiply upon the earth.
Speaker 3: So it was the exponential growth of humanity that led
Speaker 3: to this second plan, this second attempt to try and
Speaker 3: stop God's plan of redemption in the Messiah by bringing
Speaker 3: by the fallen angels. You read as you read the
Speaker 3: sons of God the Manajah Elohim, who then these fallen
Speaker 3: angels who took human women as wives and literally had
Speaker 3: intimate relations with them. This is about sexual relations. They
Speaker 3: literally fornicated with them, and they gave birth to the Nepheling,
Speaker 3: the hybrids half fallen angel half human hybrids who one
Speaker 3: had supernatural powers to fill the world with violence, but
Speaker 3: also three The most important thing from this from the
Speaker 3: Messianic perspective, it was the devil's attempt to corrupt human
Speaker 3: genetics and make us something other than human, other than
Speaker 3: image bearers of God, to prevent the birth of the Messiah.
Speaker 1: M All right, next up, Gary, if you could do this,
Speaker 1: you know, go with your side of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you have to understand the angelic
Speaker 4: rebellion because those are the players that are the sons
Speaker 4: of God in Genesis six four. And you have to
Speaker 4: understand who the daughters of men are, and you have
Speaker 4: to understand that these giants, as a KG version translates it,
Speaker 4: it goes back to the Hebrew word Nephilem or nephiel
Speaker 4: is the singular meaning a giant, tribe of giants, a bully,
Speaker 4: and a tyrant. All four terms described giants because the
Speaker 4: guy gs and the Nephelum kings were tyranos, and that
Speaker 4: the bulls were the gods and their offspring as they're
Speaker 4: described in the Sumerian text, as they're described in the
Speaker 4: Eugarretic text, these are the bulls of Bishan. So when
Speaker 4: we go to the cross in the Book of Psalms,
Speaker 4: where the bulls of Bashan are mocking Jesus on the cross,
Speaker 4: it's both the demonic the disembodied spirits of the giants,
Speaker 4: and it is the Naphalim, which are the fallen ones.
Speaker 4: Naphel is the singular word who then the ones who
Speaker 4: followed Satan when he fell from heaven. In Isaiah fourteen,
Speaker 4: the Hebrew word the foul, but the i am male
Speaker 4: plural meaning not only plural, but is in one. So
Speaker 4: Nephilene would be giant ones, seraphim watchers would be the
Speaker 4: serpent faced ones, mighty ones. That comes from gibberim, So
Speaker 4: you get these sort of understanding on that. So the
Speaker 4: naphileine are the fallen ones who produce the nephilne, and
Speaker 4: the foul is the root word for nephilene, so it
Speaker 4: carries forward at a relationship and a connotation. When the
Speaker 4: men became began to multiply on the earth, that's really
Speaker 4: an interesting word began there, and that's the Hebrew word
Speaker 4: kalal c h a l e l And that sounds familiar.
Speaker 4: It should in a couple of ways, because one is,
Speaker 4: if you look at Superman, he is his name is
Speaker 4: cal L and he is an allegory as a superhero,
Speaker 4: a hero the offspring of a god or a goddess
Speaker 4: and a human male or female. In Greek mythology, and
Speaker 4: so some English translations mighty ones are translated as heroes
Speaker 4: of old. It's denoting the same super race. And his
Speaker 4: father is jor L of the House of l. The
Speaker 4: reason why that's important, and Hebrew L is a giant,
Speaker 4: a giant, L is an angel or a goth can
Speaker 4: also mean mighty as well in its application for portions.
Speaker 4: So you have this messiah like figure that has a
Speaker 4: connection right from the Indo Aryans with Lord Matrea and
Speaker 4: Maitra and Mithras that rolls forward into the end time
Speaker 4: with an allegory for the anti Christi out of Polytheism,
Speaker 4: which is Lord Matrea. And you have this connection to
Speaker 4: the pantheon of the Canaanites and the parent God before
Speaker 4: the flood who created giants versus the offspring gods after
Speaker 4: the flood who created giants as well, was L and
Speaker 4: bey L was the son and al in that Bayl
Speaker 4: is the transliteration of e L. So Lord God, Master
Speaker 4: God is what it means. So you have this word
Speaker 4: kal el right in the beginning that there's something different
Speaker 4: that maybe we want to look at. Something began and
Speaker 4: they can began to multiply, and we have the introduction
Speaker 4: of the sons of the gods. So that word is
Speaker 4: used in a few different applications in the Bible, but
Speaker 4: the most notorious, if I could put it that way,
Speaker 4: would be in Genesis ten with Nimrod who became a
Speaker 4: mighty want a gibbori kalal again, and that's the word
Speaker 4: that means essentially to break your vowels, to depart from God,
Speaker 4: to do this in ritually ways, and to break your covenant,
Speaker 4: and to do it in sexual ritually weighs as well.
Speaker 4: So all of that's in the mixing. So in the
Speaker 4: same way as Nimrod becomes like a giant as a
Speaker 4: gibbrim a mighty one, which is used to describe giants
Speaker 4: in most cases that you have just as it's used
Speaker 4: in Genesis sixty four for the mighty ones gibbering describing
Speaker 4: the Neefelen. You have this connection back in Genesis sixty
Speaker 4: four that there's something wrong here. There's something that's going
Speaker 4: to happen with the sexual rituals, the breaking of the vows,
Speaker 4: the falling away from God and following the watchers the
Speaker 4: sons of God, and they're going to produce the demigods,
Speaker 4: the giants is the result of that, and they're going
Speaker 4: to introduce the immortal spirit as a counterfeit spirit that's
Speaker 4: passed on in the physical world to a physical body
Speaker 4: that is also immortal. So this is a violation against
Speaker 4: the Holy Spirit and is violation against the laws of creation,
Speaker 4: and that God limits that body to one and twenty
Speaker 4: years in Genesis six three, right in the middle of
Speaker 4: the creation of the Nephelem. So that's the whole tempo
Speaker 4: for what's going to happen after the Bible, after Genesis
Speaker 4: six and the history of the atomites, after the Giants,
Speaker 4: that these are spurious offspring, illegitimate offspring, and they are
Speaker 4: created by the fallen angels to do their bidding so
Speaker 4: that they don't get blood on their hands. They're created
Speaker 4: to ensure that humankind, the atomites do not reach their
Speaker 4: destiny to be raised up like angels and higher than angels,
Speaker 4: because angels will serve humanity in eternity, and so this
Speaker 4: is to prevent that from happening. But because they know
Speaker 4: the power of God, they're not going to get blood
Speaker 4: on their hands. So this is context for what is
Speaker 4: going to play out throughout the Bible. And understand that
Speaker 4: the atomites were created as a resolution to that angelic
Speaker 4: rebellion represented by the sons of God in Genesis sixty
Speaker 4: four or six one through four. And so when we
Speaker 4: look at that serpent seed, we're looking at, for the
Speaker 4: most part, the most predominant watcher that produced giants, where
Speaker 4: the seraph and angels who produced offspring that looked just
Speaker 4: like them from the DNA. When they created their soul
Speaker 4: and the body for their immortal spirit to enter into.
Speaker 4: It's called an oiktarian in Greek habitation, and oiktarian means
Speaker 4: a dwelling place for the spirit, and the spirit comes
Speaker 4: from heaven, and the spirit into the giant it comes
Speaker 4: as a xerox version, so to speak, from the fallen angels,
Speaker 4: not from heaven, just as human spirits come from heaven.
Speaker 4: And so this is the serpentine seed that's in the
Speaker 4: curse prophecy of Genesis three. It's akin to the Canaan
Speaker 4: curse prophecy on Mount Era Era at the Mount Mountain
Speaker 4: of the curse because Ararat means curse, and so it
Speaker 4: has a relationship to the giants again after the flood.
Speaker 4: And so this is the serpent seed that is also
Speaker 4: showing up in another passage as we get prehistory from
Speaker 4: Satan's fallen Isaiah fourteen that we talked about, and as
Speaker 4: you move on you have this interesting prophecy that is
Speaker 4: going to have events that play out in the time
Speaker 4: of Isaiah with the babylon parts of it, in the
Speaker 4: time of Jeremiah and unfulfilled arts in the end time
Speaker 4: for the Antichrist, which is connected as I alluded to
Speaker 4: sort of earlier, to at least who they're trying to
Speaker 4: present as the false Messiah for the end time. And
Speaker 4: what's important about that is you get that serpent imagery
Speaker 4: again with the serpent root from the seraphim angels as
Speaker 4: you take those words back to the Hebrew I think
Speaker 4: that's in fourteen twenty nine was where you get the
Speaker 4: serpent's root. It's important to understand this information and allegory
Speaker 4: because the reason why we're here are Residectra and what
Speaker 4: has happened to us and what's going to happen to
Speaker 4: us is all there between chapters one in Genesis and six.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also I thought it was interesting that
Speaker 1: it says that Satan has a seed right between your
Speaker 1: seed and her seed. That's very interesting to me. I know,
Speaker 1: Ryan goes over that in the Final Nephiline because it's
Speaker 1: showing you that fallen angels can have a seed, right, So.
Speaker 2: They are able to pro create. So that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Only if you read that as Satan's seed, because in
Speaker 4: he's not necessarily always a serpent, is how I would say.
Speaker 4: And he's not the one that's punished. It's actually the
Speaker 4: serpent that's punished, which is then hash. So that's why
Speaker 4: you have to understand it in the prophetic term that
Speaker 4: the serpent seed is for. So if we look at
Speaker 4: Ezekiel twenty eight, Satan's in Eden, but as a truebum
Speaker 4: as a job yeah, not as a seraphone as a serpent,
Speaker 4: And so we get another interesting sort of parallel account
Speaker 4: that comes in the Book of Enoch, not canon, but
Speaker 4: it has the name of the serpent in Eden as
Speaker 4: gad Reel, and you can take that actually back to
Speaker 4: the Hebrew. It means a wall of God or God's wall,
Speaker 4: and that could be his trubum name. So he's involved
Speaker 4: on the fall, but he's not necessarily producing a seed
Speaker 4: line at this point, and he doesn't go to the
Speaker 4: pit prison like the other watchers do at the time
Speaker 4: of the flood. Now you could make an argument though,
Speaker 4: for the super the serpent syed from Satan that he does.
Speaker 4: Satan does go to the Abyss, but it's just delayed
Speaker 4: until the end of the last seven years of this age,
Speaker 4: and he goes to the Abyss for a thousand years,
Speaker 4: but he doesn't lose his arms, he doesn't lose his voice,
Speaker 4: and doesn't The context is it's not the hash that
Speaker 4: is punished, and he's the one that is either the
Speaker 4: avatara of Satan or just coached from the outside by
Speaker 4: Satan to do so.
Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, all right, Ryan, anywhere you want to
Speaker 1: go with that, or you want to start asking some
Speaker 1: questions or did you have any response?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would just say that, Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: agree that Satan didn't participate in the fornication that took
Speaker 3: place in Genesis six. I think also to a good
Speaker 3: thing to note too, as people you know when you
Speaker 3: hear about this, is that this was the common understanding
Speaker 3: and interpretation of Genesis six in the Church from the
Speaker 3: earliest time, from the days of the Apostles.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to share a quote here from Irenaeus.
Speaker 3: So iron Aus, of course was the pastor or bishop
Speaker 3: in Leon and what's now Leon, France. And you know
Speaker 3: this is going back to the early you know, this
Speaker 3: this is second century to early third century, about roughly
Speaker 3: circa two hundred a d. When he was writing, and
Speaker 3: specifically writing about Genesis six. He says very clearly, and
Speaker 3: for a very long while, while wickedness extended and spread
Speaker 3: and reached and laid hold upon the whole race of mankind,
Speaker 3: until a very small set of righteousness remained among them,
Speaker 3: and illicit unions took place upon the earth, since angels
Speaker 3: were united with the daughters of the race of mankind,
Speaker 3: and they bore to them sons, where their exceeding greatness
Speaker 3: were called giants. And now if you think about this,
Speaker 3: Ironaus of course was the disciple of Polycarp, who was
Speaker 3: the disciple of the apostle John, the John, the author
Speaker 3: of Revelation. So he's just two a generation removed from
Speaker 3: the Apostles. And so this is something that I think
Speaker 3: it's important for everyone understands that this is the common
Speaker 3: what we what we today called the fringe interpretation of
Speaker 3: Genesis is actually the common Orthodox interpretation in the Church.
Speaker 3: And so not believing in that these that the nephelmore
Speaker 3: actual hybrids, is actually more fringe than anything. So I
Speaker 3: wanted to just emphasize that. But getting back to the point,
Speaker 3: about the seeds. I agree, like I was saying with
Speaker 3: Gary that Satan did not participate, and I love that
Speaker 3: he said that this idea of fallen angels using proxies,
Speaker 3: they want other beings to go before that, and I
Speaker 3: feel like the devil does that all throughout scripture. The
Speaker 3: devil does not want to get his hands dirty right
Speaker 3: away because again because out of fear of Yahweh. But
Speaker 3: I do think in the end times he will have
Speaker 3: that prophesied seed that that was a literal prophecy from God,
Speaker 3: and God said, your seed that m and that is
Speaker 3: the Antichrist. So I believe will be a hybrid. I
Speaker 3: believe the Antichrist is the final nephlemb on Earth. And
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly why after Armageddon, that's when Satan
Speaker 3: he then has to suffer the same punishment that the
Speaker 3: Genesis six rebels did, that they were brought down to
Speaker 3: the Abyss, put in chains under darkness, and they get
Speaker 3: to Revelation twenty after Armageddon, when the Antichrist is defeated
Speaker 3: by Jesus Christ. Of course, what do we see says
Speaker 3: A mighty angel comes with a chain and he literally
Speaker 3: chains the devil and binds him in the Abyss, the
Speaker 3: same punishment that the fallen angels of Genesis six had
Speaker 3: to suffer, because now, in the antimes of Satan will
Speaker 3: actually commit that sin of fornication and give birth to
Speaker 3: a literal offspring who will be the Antichrist.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, and just double tap that a little bit.
Speaker 4: The church fathers who it spent a lot of time
Speaker 4: presenting the argument as to the giants and their motivation
Speaker 4: for the ones that seemingly didn't want to accept it,
Speaker 4: And I would put it in that sort of it
Speaker 4: didn't want to accept it was the thought of it
Speaker 4: was just so horrible to them, but they couldn't deny
Speaker 4: the scripture. But it was like this cognizant dissonance for
Speaker 4: the church fathers who didn't really want to come out
Speaker 4: and say, oh, there's giants. But it was the standard
Speaker 4: doctrine of the early Church. It was the standard doctrine
Speaker 4: within Israel. And Josephus, who was a Pharisees and was
Speaker 4: an expert on the sadu Sees and lived amongst the scenes,
Speaker 4: he testified to the Vercity of the giants and that
Speaker 4: it was not just the understanding in Judaism, but this
Speaker 4: was a worldwide doctrine with the same counts and other
Speaker 4: cultures around the world, and that all of these different
Speaker 4: words for giants, whether or not it's heroes, titans, and unaki,
Speaker 4: on and on and on around the world, they were
Speaker 4: the same giants at the same time. So there's a
Speaker 4: there's a large case there for it. And most people
Speaker 4: will tell you that while there's nothing else in the
Speaker 4: Bible about a seed line, except that while there is,
Speaker 4: and we need to be aware of it. And I
Speaker 4: would point people to like Psalms twenty one eight through ten,
Speaker 4: if people have never looked at that passage. And I
Speaker 4: won't read the whole passage, but I'll paraphrase it. So
Speaker 4: in verse nine, this is an end time prophecy. In
Speaker 4: the time of God's anger. You'll Hovah's anger is going
Speaker 4: to swallow them up in his wrath, and he's talking
Speaker 4: about a certain people. And then that people gets underscored.
Speaker 4: And in verse ten, in the time of the wrath,
Speaker 4: they're fruit. He's going to destroy right from the face
Speaker 4: of the earth and their seed. So the word seed
Speaker 4: from among the children of men. There is a seed
Speaker 4: line that has been battling all throughout our history and
Speaker 4: they are the visible ones for the most part, who
Speaker 4: rule this earth under the guidance of the invisible ones
Speaker 4: and with the help of the visible hierarchy also created
Speaker 4: by by fallen angels and the demonic spirits when their
Speaker 4: bodies die.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, So since you went there, Ryan, Oh yeah, since
Speaker 1: you went there, Ryan, So what is the other view
Speaker 1: that they try to teach now that goes against the
Speaker 1: view that you were saying? Was the actual view that
Speaker 1: that was that they say as fringe? Now, what is
Speaker 1: the view? The Seth canaan I view?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: Why is that inaccurate? And why why do they even
Speaker 1: why is this even brought to us anyways?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's commonly called the Seth I view and
Speaker 3: just basically says that the sons of God in Genesis six, right,
Speaker 3: the the Villaine of Genesis six, who are actually fothering
Speaker 3: the Nephelin, that they were human men, they were one
Speaker 3: hundred percent human, They were not supernatural in any way,
Speaker 3: and that they were just basically bad men, sinful men
Speaker 3: having or or I'm sorry, actually good men who chose
Speaker 3: to marry sinful women, and that's what caused the problems
Speaker 3: in the days of Noah and so one. I mean
Speaker 3: obviously were there. They're actually Before I get to why
Speaker 3: it's wrong, I can say I think the biggest reason
Speaker 3: for the resurgence of this idea in the last you know,
Speaker 3: really it was in the twentieth century, the start of
Speaker 3: the twentieth century, because if you go back to the
Speaker 3: early twentieth century, the early nineteen hundreds and go to
Speaker 3: a Schofield Bible, when you get to Genesis six and
Speaker 3: the footnotes, it's gonna literally talk about the Nephelin an
Speaker 3: accurate supernatural interpretation of Genesis six. But I think the
Speaker 3: church and really seminaries moved away from this out and
Speaker 3: I think it was all a lot of it was
Speaker 3: a back a reflex, backlash to evolution, you know, the
Speaker 3: Scots Monkey trial, evolution gaining popularity in America, in Europe,
Speaker 3: and the Enlightening movement in England in the end of
Speaker 3: the nineteenth century. All this was putting a negative light
Speaker 3: in the Bible that people shouldn't believe the Bible anymore.
Speaker 3: It's just made up stories, all the common atheistic arguments
Speaker 3: you'd hear today. We're really gaining steam at that time,
Speaker 3: and I think what you saw in seminaries was the
Speaker 3: movement away from the more supernatural aspects of scripture to
Speaker 3: try and I think, combat evolution. But of course that's
Speaker 3: not the answer. The answer is to stand on God's truth,
Speaker 3: the truth of God's heard. And so you say, so,
Speaker 3: all it takes is one or two generations of pastors
Speaker 3: being trained the seth I view. And that's why you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure Garret could say the same thing that
Speaker 3: you know. You know hundreds if not thousands of people
Speaker 3: who have now you'll you'll hear say I've never heard
Speaker 3: this before. Why I had never heard this in church.
Speaker 3: I've gone to church my entire life and never heard
Speaker 3: the word nephie, never heard anything about hybrids in the
Speaker 3: Bible or anything like that. And so that's really, unfortunately
Speaker 3: where we get to. But I'll get to why we
Speaker 3: can know it's incorrect?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: How do we know for sure that what we're talking
Speaker 3: about is true? Well, there are several reasons. One, we
Speaker 3: already gave the historic aspect of it, that the original
Speaker 3: interpretation from the apostles themselves, that this is exactly what
Speaker 3: took place. But two, even just looking to the grammatical
Speaker 3: aspects of it the Hebrew the term you know again
Speaker 3: for sons of God, but not Elohim. That term is
Speaker 3: used exclusively for angels in the Old Testament. The only
Speaker 3: other place we find that term even being used is
Speaker 3: in the Book of Job, specifically in chapters one, where
Speaker 3: where we're clearly seeing a scene in heaven where it
Speaker 3: says that the sons of God were standing for the Lord,
Speaker 3: and Satan was among them. So this is this is
Speaker 3: a heavenly realm scene in the third heaven, in God's
Speaker 3: but in God's throne room, and they're called the sons
Speaker 3: of God but Alohim, and you just go right the
Speaker 3: next page to Job chapter two. It says, on another day,
Speaker 3: the sons of God stood before the Lord, and so
Speaker 3: again this is again in heaven. And then the last
Speaker 3: use of it is in Job chapter thirty eight, where
Speaker 3: God is now responding to Job, of course, because Job
Speaker 3: thinks he's figured out why he's suffering. You think he
Speaker 3: thinks he's figured out God and God of course, to
Speaker 3: demonstrate how little Job or any of us know, and
Speaker 3: how vast God is his whole being and knowledge is
Speaker 3: says you know, He challenges and says, where were you speaking?
Speaker 3: To job when I laid the foundations of the earth,
Speaker 3: which of course is a rhetorical question because Joe wasn't
Speaker 3: didn't exist yet. But he's saying, were you even there
Speaker 3: when I built this planet? When I literally laid the
Speaker 3: foundations of it, when I set the borders, when I
Speaker 3: made the waters, all these things. But yet God makes
Speaker 3: this interesting point that at the time he created the earth.
Speaker 3: He says that this sons of God, the Banakha Alohem,
Speaker 3: shouted for joy, so that again these are angelic beings.
Speaker 3: In other words, they witnessed the creation of the earth
Speaker 3: and rejoice. So this is again before Adam and Eve.
Speaker 3: So when we see this term, we know it's referring
Speaker 3: to angelic beings. Additionally, we look at what happened, Right,
Speaker 3: if it was just the idea, if if, if what
Speaker 3: the Bible was asserting was that if a Christian man
Speaker 3: or a believer in God marries a woman who's a
Speaker 3: pagan or an atheist, and they have an offspring, that
Speaker 3: child is going to be a giant. Why wouldn't that
Speaker 3: happen today? Right? That it clearly does not. That does
Speaker 3: not really follow through what the Bible teaches. Right, there
Speaker 3: are many examples and scriptures of believers marrying a woman
Speaker 3: who was no believer, King Solomon, for example, and none
Speaker 3: of his offspring are giants our nephilin we don't see
Speaker 3: any of this happening anything. We don't see that taking
Speaker 3: places at all. And so that's another reason why I
Speaker 3: think it doesn't really hold up. And then the third
Speaker 3: thing is biblically, is God's reaction, right, And this is
Speaker 3: a really important reason why it's so critical to understand
Speaker 3: the supernatural interpretation of Genesis six, because God's reaction whenever
Speaker 3: the Nephelin are present on the earth is to swift, devastating,
Speaker 3: cataclysmic judgment. We see this of course with the flood.
Speaker 3: Right it webs out the entire human population except for
Speaker 3: eight people.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: God literally says he regrets and repents that he even
Speaker 3: made humanity. Why because all flesh had corrupted itself Three
Speaker 3: times in Genesis chapter six scripture. God's testimony is all
Speaker 3: flesh is corrupted.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And there's also this interesting statement that God makes where
Speaker 3: he says that man humanity is also become flesh. Right,
Speaker 3: in other words, saying that something has happened to us
Speaker 3: to core up to us and make us degraded. But
Speaker 3: he says also, and I think what he's implying with
Speaker 3: God is saying there is that we're the second groups
Speaker 3: of that because the fallen angels who committed this fortication,
Speaker 3: they defiled themselves first when they fathered the Nephlm with
Speaker 3: human women. So everything we see in scripture is pointing
Speaker 3: to the fact that these this was a supernatural event.
Speaker 3: You had beings from the divine realm, fallen angels literally
Speaker 3: cohabitating with human women and fothering the Nephelum giants.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Gary, I think I agree everything with what
Speaker 4: Ryan said there, and I'll add more because they pushback
Speaker 4: on the arguments is extensive. For the new doctrine we'll
Speaker 4: call that that's come about in the last couple hundred
Speaker 4: years and even today the seminaries and starting a couple
Speaker 4: hundred years ago, they stopped teaching prehistory and prophecy. And
Speaker 4: I've heard this over and over and over and over
Speaker 4: and over from ministers, both priests and outside the Roman Church,
Speaker 4: and they ask for material on this because they weren't
Speaker 4: taught any of it. But yet they know there's something
Speaker 4: wrong there, and so the arguments are quite strong, and
Speaker 4: so when we look at the understanding of this term
Speaker 4: sons of God, it's even a little bit more important
Speaker 4: to know that it reaches into other areas of the Bible.
Speaker 4: Those are classic examples, especially that Psalms or Job thirty
Speaker 4: eight at the time of creation and the association with
Speaker 4: the stars of the Morning Star order that I'll come
Speaker 4: back two in a second. But you know in Psalm's
Speaker 4: eighty two and the Council of the Mighty l this
Speaker 4: is the council of the gods, l right. These are
Speaker 4: the children that God is going to punish. As you
Speaker 4: understand these counsel of the Gods, He's going to punish
Speaker 4: these ones. These are the children of the Most High.
Speaker 4: These are the ben you know Ben l l e
Speaker 4: on sons most High. It's the same terminology that's used
Speaker 4: in Genesis six. These are the ones that rule over
Speaker 4: the seventy nations in Deuteronomy thirty two, both before and
Speaker 4: after the flood, all numbered by the amount of sons
Speaker 4: born to Jacob in Egypt and Exodus one five of
Speaker 4: seventy sons, and the seventy patriarch nations out of Noah
Speaker 4: that we see numbered in Genesis ten and first Chronicles,
Speaker 4: and by inference, seventy nations was the standard before the flood,
Speaker 4: even though we don't get the full sons listed by
Speaker 4: Adam in the genealogy, and the whole earth was divided
Speaker 4: up amongst these sons of God, as some of the
Speaker 4: translations say, or angels and or Israel as the KGV
Speaker 4: as it, all three are accurate. That is Ben again
Speaker 4: of Israel, which is a compound word which means it
Speaker 4: descends from Sarah and l and it's a name that
Speaker 4: Jacob is going to inherit as part of a prophecy
Speaker 4: for the seventy nations that are going to be here
Speaker 4: in the millennium, and that it means sons of the
Speaker 4: ruling God or sons of the Almighty, same terminology, just
Speaker 4: in a compound word understood in its original meeting versus
Speaker 4: the tribe of Israel, which wasn't before the flood. So
Speaker 4: you either are going to say the Bible isn't a contradiction,
Speaker 4: or maybe we should go back to the compound word
Speaker 4: that forms Israel, and that the understanding of angels and
Speaker 4: sons of God and stars and hosts of heaven are interchangeable.
Speaker 4: In the old Testament and used together. So just as
Speaker 4: you have sons of God used in Job thirty eight
Speaker 4: with morning stars, you have hosts, which is Saba, an
Speaker 4: army of angels which has rank or that's also used
Speaker 4: for the host of Heaven, the host of the Schemaim,
Speaker 4: the heavenly ones. These are the hosts that are the
Speaker 4: stars and stars are used allegorically for angels throughout the Bible.
Speaker 4: And then you have hosts and stars used in Daniel
Speaker 4: eight in the end Time where antique race is going
Speaker 4: to trample on some of the stars of the host.
Speaker 4: And so they're used together and interchangeably to show that
Speaker 4: there's a larger organization of angels. But sons of God
Speaker 4: is a term that is also used for a specific
Speaker 4: rank or perhaps the watcher level of angels, the four
Speaker 4: groups of wat groups of angels at the top of
Speaker 4: the apex of the of the of the Saba, the
Speaker 4: angelic army. And so once we sort of understand that,
Speaker 4: then people will say, well, it doesn't really mean giant.
Speaker 4: It's an exaggeration, and the mean bully or tyrant as well.
Speaker 4: And that's why I want people to know that tyrant
Speaker 4: Tyranos goes back to the the bloodlines of the giants,
Speaker 4: in this case the guiges Kings or the guy Geese team,
Speaker 4: depending on how you want to pronounce it, or Guy's
Speaker 4: depending on whether it's plural or not. And the singular
Speaker 4: root word for giant in Greek for these guy ges
Speaker 4: Kings is gey gas, meaning giant. These were the herculides
Speaker 4: Kings from the descendants of Hercules, son of Alchemy, and
Speaker 4: Zeus in Greek mythology, and so Tarranos is the word
Speaker 4: that was used and is why you have a connection
Speaker 4: back to the lords of the Philistines that will go
Speaker 4: back to these tyrants also known as Serene and the
Speaker 4: Siranime in Hebrew, which goes back to the Indo Aryan
Speaker 4: word horn god. So it's connected back to the horn
Speaker 4: gods and the reproduction of those bloodlines. And then you
Speaker 4: have the understanding of bull of which you already talked about.
Speaker 4: So it all describes these giants. And then they say, well,
Speaker 4: they're just we're taller humans. They're not actually giants, and
Speaker 4: you couldn't get a giant from one human meeting with
Speaker 4: another human anyways. So then they say, well, they're not
Speaker 4: a giant except that it says, you know, even over
Speaker 4: a thousand years after the flood, Goliath is six cubits
Speaker 4: and a span, and it's king of Gap and son
Speaker 4: of a giant, son of a rapha giant. He is
Speaker 4: going to be king. And Josepha says the measure of
Speaker 4: the giants on the royal cubit of twenty one inches
Speaker 4: versus eighteen inches, which would make him eleven feet three inches.
Speaker 4: And he was stout, and so he was like a
Speaker 4: two to one to height with you ratio, just like
Speaker 4: Aug's Bad was nine cubits long and four cubits wide,
Speaker 4: which is sixteen feet long on a royal cuba, and
Speaker 4: king of Astroth and Edrai and a Raphaem the last
Speaker 4: other Rafaem after the flood, and Rafaem is the other
Speaker 4: word for giant that's used in the Old Testament and
Speaker 4: more often than nepheline like many more times. And so
Speaker 4: these were huge compared to the averages were relative about
Speaker 4: six feet. So then they go on to say, well,
Speaker 4: sons of God is used for the New Covenant, and Christians,
Speaker 4: we're sons of God, yes, but not quite right. It's
Speaker 4: a prophecy that began with the resurrection. Of Jesus and
Speaker 4: at the time of the Pentecost. This is a gift
Speaker 4: that's coming to us, and that with the resurrection sequence,
Speaker 4: which hasn't happened yet. So a prophecy in the future
Speaker 4: that will be raised up to be like angels and
Speaker 4: adopted as brothers by Jesus, to be sons of God,
Speaker 4: even though we have human fathers. And I summarized about
Speaker 4: seven or eight passages from the New Testament to sort
Speaker 4: of get there, but just to keep it kind of short.
Speaker 4: So that's in the future, so it's got nothing to
Speaker 4: do with what happened there. But we will ultimately become
Speaker 4: like those preternatural angels created in Psalms one oh four
Speaker 4: before the heavens and the earth were created. And so
Speaker 4: when we look at the Old Testament, then they'll say, well,
Speaker 4: Israel in the book of Isaiah and ose is called
Speaker 4: the children of God. Then again Elohim and that application.
Speaker 4: So those are humans again. Those are prophecies for the
Speaker 4: reconciliation of Israel and Judah in the end time, who
Speaker 4: have their own resurrection process in Ezekiel thirty seven after
Speaker 4: the Second Exodus, and will be raised up to be
Speaker 4: like sons of God, and that's also expressed in Daniel twelve,
Speaker 4: and that resurrection and judgment is for Daniel's people, not
Speaker 4: for the church. Ours is a parallel track that we
Speaker 4: get the prophecies in the New Testament for so and
Speaker 4: I have documents on the argument for the sons of
Speaker 4: God being angels and one why they're not. If people
Speaker 4: want to get get hold of it, I've got it
Speaker 4: all in a document form. But the arguments are non stop.
Speaker 4: And one of the things that became clear to me
Speaker 4: why they're so fearful of understanding it is because Jesus
Speaker 4: is also called the son of God, and he has
Speaker 4: to be distinct from these others. But Colosians one does
Speaker 4: make him distinct. I mean, the whole New Testament makes
Speaker 4: them distinct. The Old Testament makes them distinct. He's the
Speaker 4: one who created all of the angels, and Colosians one,
Speaker 4: and he's the one that is the first born of creation,
Speaker 4: as Colosians one says and proverts eight and only through
Speaker 4: him comes comes ever allowed life or for humans. So
Speaker 4: he is distinct. But he is the creator of the angels,
Speaker 4: and that's the big distinction. And yet he's still technically
Speaker 4: as the branch as the I would say the Yahweh
Speaker 4: of the Aloheim versus and cognate to the word logos
Speaker 4: of the God, Theos of the New Testament, the Word
Speaker 4: of God who became flesh to do all of this.
Speaker 4: He is when God speaks, as in Genesis one, Aloheim
Speaker 4: m r. God speaks, when speaks, that's the word. He's
Speaker 4: there for the creation. Everything's in perfect harmony. And the
Speaker 4: term Lord God or Yahweh Aloheim is introduced in about
Speaker 4: two four versus Genesis one, where we get that strect
Speaker 4: interaction of the Word with us from that point on.
Speaker 2: Okay, so so we know you were you guys both
Speaker 2: mentioned it.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 1: It says in the Book of Enoch that the that
Speaker 1: the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim are the demons.
Speaker 2: So we have that.
Speaker 1: So so the flood happens to destroy this this DNA,
Speaker 1: this this mix up DNA. So how did these giants
Speaker 1: appear after the flood? I noticed a few things when
Speaker 1: I was going through Genesis. I noticed that I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of like raphaem with the sodom ingamora, you know,
Speaker 1: I see it in Genesis ten where they're like they're
Speaker 1: traveling to there. I also see in the in the
Speaker 1: in Sodom Megamora where theyre where they're fighting with the
Speaker 1: Rapaem on their side, uh, you know, Sodom Ingamora when
Speaker 1: they're fighting in the the Four Kings Five Kings battle.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing that was there a second incursion?
Speaker 1: Maybe that happened or how did the giants appear the
Speaker 1: Rapayim after the flood? Ryan, you could go first and
Speaker 1: then I'll let Gary take over.
Speaker 2: I I kind.
Speaker 1: Of Once I went over Soa to Mcgamora, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this could have been the place of the second incursion.
Speaker 2: But I know Ryan has a really interesting.
Speaker 1: Uh theory on this as well, So go ahead, Ryan.
Speaker 3: So I do not believe that angels fornicated again with
Speaker 3: human women after the flood, and I think there's several
Speaker 3: reasons for that. One. I go through Ezekiel chapter thirty one,
Speaker 3: which I call an esoteric passage. I put it right there.
Speaker 3: You know, Gary mentioned earlier Ezekiel twenty eight, which of
Speaker 3: course is addressing the King of Tyre and the Prince
Speaker 3: of Tire. But God is speaking through those human kings
Speaker 3: to really address Satan. And I think Ezekiel thirty one
Speaker 3: is a chapter that is just like that, where it's yes,
Speaker 3: it's addressed to Pharaoh, but I believe God is speaking
Speaker 3: to a fallen angel who's referred to as the Assyrian
Speaker 3: all throughout the Old Testament and in the New Testament
Speaker 3: that he's called Abadon or Apollon, And essentially this chapter
Speaker 3: is describing his whole rise and fall in the days
Speaker 3: of Noah ruling over the earth. He's compared to a
Speaker 3: tree similar it's almost identical imagery to what we see
Speaker 3: in Daniel chapter four, when neviaknez Or, the king of Babylon,
Speaker 3: has a dream and says he when he can't he
Speaker 3: wants his magicians to not only tell him what he
Speaker 3: not only interpret his dream, but tell him what he
Speaker 3: dreamt sees. I'm not gonna tell you what I dreamt.
Speaker 3: I want you to tell me the dream and the
Speaker 3: interpret it. And of course they can't do it because
Speaker 3: they're relying on the power of Satan. But God Yahweh
Speaker 3: empowers Daniel with the vision and the secret right and
Speaker 3: it says that God reveal a secret to him in
Speaker 3: this and he and essentially what he tells Nebachinezan he says,
Speaker 3: the tree is you, this mighty tree with its branches,
Speaker 3: it represents you and your kingdom. We see the exact
Speaker 3: same imagery in Ezekiel thirty one in reference to this
Speaker 3: fallen angel, the Assyrian, who was the leader I believe
Speaker 3: of the Genesis six angels. And then he gets to
Speaker 3: even describing his judgment, that he was judged by the floodwaters,
Speaker 3: and that God says, God dragged him. God sent into
Speaker 3: the nether parts of the earth to the Abusos, to
Speaker 3: the Abyss, exactly where the angel of Genesis six percent
Speaker 3: and imprisoned, and God says it makes the statement that
Speaker 3: to the extent that none of the trees of Eden,
Speaker 3: which I believe is metaphoric language for the other fallen
Speaker 3: angels who are sitting alongside this leader, that they would
Speaker 3: never try this again, that they would never try to
Speaker 3: exalt themselves in this way again. So I believe the
Speaker 3: judgment of taking. If you think about it, how devastating
Speaker 3: this judgment must be to the fallen angels. That the
Speaker 3: devil is still roman heaven and earth, going to and
Speaker 3: fro on the earth can still go to God's throne.
Speaker 3: He's accusing us right now before God's thrones were told
Speaker 3: in Revelations. Is he accuses the brethren day and night.
Speaker 3: So he still is running literally running free, whereas the
Speaker 3: I believe most of the fallen angels are. But the
Speaker 3: Genesis six angels who committed this sin of fornication, they
Speaker 3: were taken out immediately. They were imprisoned, and it would
Speaker 3: have been for millennia. And so I believe God one
Speaker 3: of the purposes of this judgment was to deter how
Speaker 3: are the fallen angels from ever trying the sinem fornication again?
Speaker 3: So how do they get to after the flood? How
Speaker 3: did they show up? How we see giants again? I
Speaker 3: believe that the DNA of the giants of the Nephilin
Speaker 3: made it through on the arc through the wives of
Speaker 3: Noah's children. And what I point to I think the
Speaker 3: scriptural clues and evidence of this. I think there are
Speaker 3: several pieces of evidence. One is the timing of the
Speaker 3: birth of Noah's sons. When you see the genealogies of
Speaker 3: the patriarchs from Adam all the way to Noah, when
Speaker 3: they have their first sons, it's normally at age sixty
Speaker 3: to seventy years old. And I believe again, before the flood,
Speaker 3: we see that the patriarchs had extended lifespans, and I
Speaker 3: believe that men hit puberty way later in life, so
Speaker 3: they weren't having children, their first children, so they were
Speaker 3: in the sixties and seventies because of this different atmosphere
Speaker 3: and how it was affecting the human body at that time. However,
Speaker 3: when you get to Noah, he does not have his
Speaker 3: first son until he's five hundred years old. And so
Speaker 3: why does that matter, Because we know from the chronology
Speaker 3: of the flood he boards the arc at six hundred
Speaker 3: years old, so I believe by the time he even
Speaker 3: had his first his sons shem Ham and Jfev, the
Speaker 3: world population was overrun with fallen angelic DNA in the
Speaker 3: net one were literally the corruption the human genome was
Speaker 3: rampant in the earth. And again that's the testimony of scripture.
Speaker 3: God says all flesh and corrupted itself, and I think
Speaker 3: even the animals were being corrupted by this genetic manipulation
Speaker 3: by the fallen angels. And so the odds of finding
Speaker 3: three women to marry his sons when they're marrying age
Speaker 3: right not been not his babies once they're grown men
Speaker 3: who had no trace of fallen angelic DNA, I think
Speaker 3: was slim to none. And I think when you look
Speaker 3: specifically at the wife of him, who of course is
Speaker 3: the fa of Canaan, I believe that that is how
Speaker 3: the DNA got through in the arc. And I think
Speaker 3: what happens after the flood is we see two things.
Speaker 3: We see this, of course, this interaction, this event, this
Speaker 3: sinful event that takes place in the tent of Noah
Speaker 3: involving Ham, and out of it, Noah curses Canaan. Now
Speaker 3: there's lots of debate over what happened. It was their
Speaker 3: fornication with Noah's wife and all these things. But I
Speaker 3: think that what I focus on is the fact that
Speaker 3: Noah cursed Canaan. And you mentioned already the five king
Speaker 3: versus four King coalition war that I call the Nepheline
Speaker 3: World War that we see in Genesis fourteen. With that
Speaker 3: where they're listing all these different tribes, the Refee and
Speaker 3: the e Means, the Zuzems, the zamzu Memes, all these
Speaker 3: giants are suddenly in the Promised land right and involved
Speaker 3: in this conflict. It keeps what I demonstrate in jenneral
Speaker 3: Neplins that they can all be traced back to Canaan
Speaker 3: when you look at I just did just last week.
Speaker 3: I did a program Thursday and thetheology about the Sons
Speaker 3: of a Knock and numbers thirteen where we see the
Speaker 3: second use of the Hebrew term nephelines and the first
Speaker 3: one after the flood. This is when the twelve spies
Speaker 3: are being sent by Moses to scout the Promised Land, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, God instructed him to do that. God
Speaker 3: specifically commanded Moses to send these twelve spies, one from
Speaker 3: every tribe of the twelve tribes of Israel, to go
Speaker 3: scout the promised land, which by the way, is called
Speaker 3: the land of Canaan. We'll get to that in a
Speaker 3: moment why it's called that. But there they, you know,
Speaker 3: they when they go into the land to scout it out,
Speaker 3: they see these three Naphthalim giants, the sons of a knock, Ahiman, Seshai,
Speaker 3: and Talmi, and this is you know, the And of
Speaker 3: course what happens is they come back and ten spies
Speaker 3: just from seeing these three giants say, God can't deliver us.
Speaker 3: God cannot conquer these giants and lead us into the
Speaker 3: Promised Lane, even though they had just seen all the
Speaker 3: miracles of the Exodus, you know, the plagues, the Ten Plagues,
Speaker 3: departing to the Red Sea, God literally destroying the most
Speaker 3: powerful empire and army on the earth, the Egyptian Empire,
Speaker 3: destroying Pharaoh, all those things, all that, all that, all
Speaker 3: those supernatural acts of God. It just took seeing three
Speaker 3: and Ephiline, and they said, we can't do it. And
Speaker 3: they said, we were like grasshoppers compared to them, they
Speaker 3: were so big. So who are these sons of a Knock? Well,
Speaker 3: obviously their father is a knock, who is the father
Speaker 3: of the anakein race of giants we see after the flood,
Speaker 3: and in fact, in Genesis fourteen when it's naming all
Speaker 3: those tribes, they're all being compared to the Anachim. They're saying,
Speaker 3: you know, the Zanzamines, who are as tall as the Anakim.
Speaker 3: So the Anachem were like the gold standard of post
Speaker 3: flood giants. These were the the A the A lists,
Speaker 3: and so we see that they're these giants. A knock
Speaker 3: is the father of them. But we go to the
Speaker 3: Book of Joshua, we're told that the son the father
Speaker 3: of a knock was Arba. When I demonstrate is that Arba,
Speaker 3: who is called a giant in the Book of Joshua,
Speaker 3: he is one of the sons of Heath. I mean
Speaker 3: going back to Genesis, because Arba, the sons of Heth,
Speaker 3: built Hebron, the city of Hebron. Why does that matter?
Speaker 3: The city of Hebron's original name was Kiriath Arba, the
Speaker 3: city of Arba. So Arba is one of the sons
Speaker 3: of Heath. Heath is the second son of Canaan. So
Speaker 3: those giants, the Anakim who all the giants are compared
Speaker 3: to after the flood, are direct descendants of Canaan, which
Speaker 3: leads us again to the land of Canaan. Right, And
Speaker 3: so when we think about this, you know what La
Speaker 3: Morizouli calls the cosmic chess match between God and Satan
Speaker 3: to try and this battle to get to the Messiah
Speaker 3: after the flood. Obviously the giants are killed in the flood.
Speaker 3: Where does Satan have his giants live and occupy God's
Speaker 3: chosen land. So it's no coincidence that the promised land
Speaker 3: is filled with giants and descendants of Canaan after the flood.
Speaker 3: Because God, because again Satan is trying to prevent the
Speaker 3: plan of God. And Gary mentioned before the prehistory, right,
Speaker 3: how did Satan know that Satan was there? In Ezeko
Speaker 3: twenty eight? He was upon the mountain of God, so
Speaker 3: he knew the location already, and he sets up the
Speaker 3: giants there in and there were so many giants there
Speaker 3: who we are descends of Canaan. Israel itself is called
Speaker 3: the land of Canaan, and I think the fact that
Speaker 3: you know, you look at the name Canaan. Canaan is
Speaker 3: mentioned one hundred and sixty four times in the Old Testament,
Speaker 3: and yet he's never once described or doing anything, or
Speaker 3: even quoted. And I think this is another indication of
Speaker 3: the Bible saying there's something incredibly infamous about Canaan, because
Speaker 3: his name is everywhere in the Bible, so much so
Speaker 3: that that Israel itself is named after him. And I
Speaker 3: believe it's because he is the father of the post
Speaker 3: Aluvian giants.
Speaker 4: Very interesting, Go ahead, Gary, Yeah, So it's a mystery,
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it, and there's there's some gaps,
Speaker 4: and we need to be respectful of all of the
Speaker 4: ways because the thing that we don't get after the
Speaker 4: flood is another passage like Genesis six one through four.
Speaker 4: We just don't have that smoking gun verse. Now. I
Speaker 4: would also just throw in a bit of a defining
Speaker 4: sort of nature to that the sons of God went
Speaker 4: to the daughters of men again and then like fashion,
Speaker 4: created giants. So they did it more than once before
Speaker 4: the flood. You could infer that that would include after
Speaker 4: the flood, and the language I think will allow you
Speaker 4: to do that, But we still don't have that smoking
Speaker 4: gun verse. And just keep that in mind for one,
Speaker 4: because I have a lot more information than I'm going
Speaker 4: to put on the table to flesh this whole concept out.
Speaker 4: So there's like three ways that giants can show up
Speaker 4: after the flood. There's the one which is my third
Speaker 4: choice as what was described by Ryan, and you can't
Speaker 4: rule it out because we don't have that passage after
Speaker 4: the flood. There is survival, and you could make a
Speaker 4: legal argument that they survived and that that argument would
Speaker 4: come through in Genesis six seven and six and six
Speaker 4: seven and seven four because God was going to destroy
Speaker 4: everything he created and he didn't create the giants, So
Speaker 4: you could if you wanted to make that as a
Speaker 4: legal argument for survival on another arc in the Earth,
Speaker 4: off the Earth, in another dimension somehow, some way, with
Speaker 4: the help of fallen angels who have free choice to
Speaker 4: do so, and God as Alpha Omega would know, they
Speaker 4: survive into the flood. And we do get accounts around
Speaker 4: the world where we have arc stories that are giant
Speaker 4: arc stories, like pischten ers Iszudra out of the Sumerian pantheon.
Speaker 4: These are two thirds God one third human. That's recorded
Speaker 4: in the epic of Gilgamesh, who was two thirds God
Speaker 4: one third human six generations after the flood, different than
Speaker 4: the Gilgamesh in the Book of Enoch by definition then,
Speaker 4: which was before the flood, because he's borne by a
Speaker 4: second incursion through the bull goddess nin and King lugal
Speaker 4: Banda also understood as a giant as King of Uruk.
Speaker 4: And so that may be why it's two thirds God
Speaker 4: and one third human, because there was already angelic DNA
Speaker 4: in the Father, but it still has that human component
Speaker 4: to that demigod of a Nautician. And then you have
Speaker 4: one more example is you have Prometheus as the father
Speaker 4: of Dukalian. Prometheus is a god in the Egyptian pantheon.
Speaker 4: Dukalian is the quote unquote Greek Noah, as the brainwashing goes,
Speaker 4: and his wife Piara were the survivors of the ark.
Speaker 4: But because he's son of a god, he's a giant.
Speaker 4: So we have accounts like this all around the world.
Speaker 4: What we do know is or you could have a
Speaker 4: second recreation of giants after the flood. Those are the
Speaker 4: three ways, and so I lean heavily to a second creation.
Speaker 4: I'm open to survival of the giants. Leave a crack
Speaker 4: open there in a smaller crack open for the DNA
Speaker 4: aspect of it, because you also have the four races
Speaker 4: crossing the flood, and you get into a complication of
Speaker 4: genetics with different species technically and different skin colors and
Speaker 4: races and how that sort of intermixes. So but because
Speaker 4: we don't know, we have to be open to that.
Speaker 4: But somehow, somehow giants show up after the flood, and
Speaker 4: we get them not only with the names that Ryan
Speaker 4: was talking about, but other names as well. And so
Speaker 4: we have in the report that Ryan was referring to
Speaker 4: in numbers thirteen thirty three, the anachem are said to
Speaker 4: be the children of giants. In the embellished part of
Speaker 4: the report, giants is the Hebrew word and the feel
Speaker 4: for neffelmachuse twice there. Nefholm only shows up three times
Speaker 4: in the Old Testament, once in Genesis six y four,
Speaker 4: twice in numbers thirteen thirty three. One other time. The
Speaker 4: word is translated in Job sixteen four as giant in
Speaker 4: the KGV, and it comes from gibor or gibberin which
Speaker 4: you could interpret and translate that as a giant. Interesting
Speaker 4: left in the Ugartic texts, Gibrim is used to describe
Speaker 4: giants out of the Eugotic texts, and gbr the original
Speaker 4: Semitic vowelist word for the gibbor or the Gibbereim tribe
Speaker 4: was also a specific tribe in the Ugartic texts. But
Speaker 4: whether or not that's a giant there, I'll leave that
Speaker 4: for other people's sort of interpretation. The other time giant
Speaker 4: is used. In the other times the giant is used
Speaker 4: in the Old Testament except for twice. It comes from
Speaker 4: the Hebrew word rapha meaning a giant or patriarch of
Speaker 4: the giants or a tribe of giants and generic for giants,
Speaker 4: and it's used in all those different ways. So when
Speaker 4: you see the valley of the giants, that's the valley
Speaker 4: of the Rafayem, and we see the tribe used twice
Speaker 4: in Genesis fourteen in the War of Giants, and then
Speaker 4: in the land that Abraham is going to Inherit where
Speaker 4: the Rafayem are already there. And there's other giant tribes
Speaker 4: that are listed in Genesis ten as well. So in
Speaker 4: that account, the terrified scouts in number thirteen thirty three,
Speaker 4: they don't want to fight these giants, and they're using Nephileine,
Speaker 4: which is really kind of odd as the term. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that Shashai ahe man and Tellmi, we're not
Speaker 4: giants because they're called anachem. And the Deuteronomy too that
Speaker 4: Ryan was referencing, they're called giants as some of other
Speaker 4: tribes like the Whorem or the Aviem are all giants. Rafayem. Well,
Speaker 4: that's rather interesting because the Bible is using two different
Speaker 4: terms for the word giant, and Nephilene is not going
Speaker 4: to show up if those aren't actually Rafaem. Let me
Speaker 4: just requalify that statement. When the report says Nephylem, is
Speaker 4: that just to terrify the Israelites or are they actually rapaying,
Speaker 4: but they're using nephaline because they may have been larger,
Speaker 4: more scarier. But it testifies to the veracity of the
Speaker 4: antediluvian giant. I don't believe the Bible is in conflict,
Speaker 4: so I think it's Raphaem and it's the embellishment part
Speaker 4: of the evil report, not that these weren't giants or
Speaker 4: just a distinction between the giants and Nephialine will not
Speaker 4: show up again as a a generic term for giant
Speaker 4: or a tribe of giants after the flood. So all
Speaker 4: of these other giant tribes that are talked about in
Speaker 4: Deuteronomy too, they're all Rapayem. No, not one of them
Speaker 4: is called Nephaline. And as you take all these giant
Speaker 4: tribes back to their original Hebrew meetings or aboriginals, and
Speaker 4: that the Canaanites would have migrated intermarry with them after
Speaker 4: Babel as other nations would have in other areas. And
Speaker 4: so there's a distinction that's being made here of rafaee
Speaker 4: and it's the it's the common word from the time
Speaker 4: of the Torah forward for and somehow a separation from
Speaker 4: their original Nephilene. And I think they probably couldn't reproduce
Speaker 4: like what they wanted to, whereas the Nefhilene before, as
Speaker 4: Ryan was saying, they proliferated with population, and it seems
Speaker 4: to show up with a fertility issue that has an
Speaker 4: inability to produce a lot of females. And so the
Speaker 4: female aspect becomes a very important aspect to carry on
Speaker 4: the bloodline and to be used to start new tribes
Speaker 4: with and new dynasties with it. So in Genesis thirty six,
Speaker 4: which is outside the Table of Nations but is providing
Speaker 4: a similar information only with giant tribes, how do we
Speaker 4: know that that's where the Horring are Seir and the
Speaker 4: dukes of Sir are Horeman giants as they're described in
Speaker 4: Deuteronomy too. And so Alapaz will marry a daughter named
Speaker 4: Timna of Syr, the Horring, a red haired giant, and
Speaker 4: they're going to start the Amalekite hybrids versus the Amalakeem
Speaker 4: giants that are shown in Genesis fourteen along with the
Speaker 4: rapagen and you have this two people's being created. But
Speaker 4: the hybrids are going to go to Petra and live
Speaker 4: amongst the Amalachem and they're going to take on the
Speaker 4: name of the patriarch Amlak and be named eponymously as
Speaker 4: the as the Amalekites. It's also interesting to know that
Speaker 4: Holybama is also a horring esau Mary's and starts another
Speaker 4: race of ones that probably becomes the whole rights the
Speaker 4: hybrids versus the heart. What's that?
Speaker 1: I was actually gonna bring Esa up because I just
Speaker 1: had a question about that, just side question.
Speaker 4: And so we have an account there in the Bible
Speaker 4: where we have a female giants, and we have new
Speaker 4: nations being created. Now when we get over to the
Speaker 4: table of nations, you have seventy nations all have patriarch
Speaker 4: except for nine, and so we have nine Canaanite nations
Speaker 4: that don't have a patriarch. And then we have Canaan
Speaker 4: Heth and Sidon as the three that are named and
Speaker 4: their peoples will take their names eponymously. And so we
Speaker 4: don't have patriarchs for these families. And as you take
Speaker 4: that back to Hebrew, makaka basically means it can mean family,
Speaker 4: but it can also mean a different species, a different kind,
Speaker 4: a different race, a different being. And so what we
Speaker 4: don't have is we don't have rafa for the Rafaim
Speaker 4: listed in the Table of Nations, and we don't have
Speaker 4: Arba listed in the Table of Nations anywhere, and no
Speaker 4: listing that he might be the son of Heth. And
Speaker 4: so what people will say is all of those tribes
Speaker 4: were the offspring of the three, but again the Bible
Speaker 4: doesn't say that, So it's inferring that that's the case,
Speaker 4: and it's okay to do that because we're speculating on
Speaker 4: how giants show up, but we don't have that smoking
Speaker 4: gun linkage there. What's also interesting is the Hittites were
Speaker 4: black haired, blackbeards as they're depicted and described on reliefs,
Speaker 4: and olive skin, and the Anachem were blonde haired and
Speaker 4: pale skin, and the Horrying were blonde hair and pale skin.
Speaker 4: And all of those tribes are named in the Hebrew
Speaker 4: in the singular, not in the plural, so Rapha for example,
Speaker 4: and Boring would be horry, the Heavying would be Heavy,
Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. I won't go through
Speaker 4: all of them. I could list all of them, but
Speaker 4: to be here for a while, Maka is not one
Speaker 4: for the marka theme, but you get the idea that
Speaker 4: it's all singular after a patriarch, just as Jebouz was
Speaker 4: the patriarch for the Jebusites, as he's defined in the
Speaker 4: Ancient Hebrew in the meaning, and so he is a
Speaker 4: likely a refine patriarch. Rafa would be the Rafie patriarch
Speaker 4: for the Rafayem. Arba is and the Anachem do not
Speaker 4: take the name directly from Arba, but the Book of
Speaker 4: Joshua says he's the patriarch for the anachein Arba's not
Speaker 4: in the table of nations. So I would look at
Speaker 4: the giants that are showing up after the flood as
Speaker 4: being connected to this generic term Rafa or rafaee as
Speaker 4: well as a specific patriarch of Rafa as well and
Speaker 4: a tribe, and it's used in that application in the
Speaker 4: Old Testament, and it's also part of the definition. What's
Speaker 4: also kind of interesting is in the Canaanite pantheon, L
Speaker 4: was the parent god who ruled before the flood created
Speaker 4: giants Ball takes over after the flood is the offspring
Speaker 4: God and his queen of heaven or a consort is
Speaker 4: an at versus Astroth, who is the consort of L.
Speaker 4: And in the Eugurtic text, they create the Rafe, yeah,
Speaker 4: and that they're doing fertility rituals to bring them back
Speaker 4: because they've gone and disappeared inexplicably and can't come back.
Speaker 4: They're likely in the pit prison, and that they want
Speaker 4: them to come back to produce more ruffing because they're
Speaker 4: facing a stark choice that they either will start to
Speaker 4: reproduce with humans to create the hybrid races giant hybrid
Speaker 4: races versus human angelic giant races. And these are the
Speaker 4: smaller races, so the Shazoo or the Amau or the
Speaker 4: Shamau depending on Messa Amior Egyptian references. For people like
Speaker 4: the Amorites who are like giants, they're depicted a seven
Speaker 4: to nine feet tall versus you know, ten to nineteen
Speaker 4: feet tall for the giants, using outside sourcing for those
Speaker 4: for those sizes, execration Texas is the best. Egyptian execration
Speaker 4: Texas is the best for that. And so these tribes
Speaker 4: that are our hybrids are likely the ones that ESAU
Speaker 4: has created with Olihall Obama team and Alphas and Rafaeen
Speaker 4: patriarchs for the Canaanite nations, and so the Rafayeim are
Speaker 4: the ones that are going to be known as a
Speaker 4: tribe in the in the War of Giants, and in
Speaker 4: the land that Abraham had. So it's interesting that in
Speaker 4: that argument that Ryan put forward. I like the argument
Speaker 4: and I agree with it a lot. The curses playing
Speaker 4: out only with Canaan, it's very very odd. It's another
Speaker 4: curse prophecy of blonde eage, and so it doesn't play
Speaker 4: out with the other Hamites that they would have that
Speaker 4: same curse. It's just limited to them. And except that
Speaker 4: there's giants being reproduced in other nations, but the Hamites
Speaker 4: and the Jephi, so it's not quite as consistent and
Speaker 4: as neat as is set down there. So there's some
Speaker 4: sort of distinction here between the Nephelem and the Raphaem,
Speaker 4: and it's that fertility issue. And that passage in Ezekiel
Speaker 4: thirty two that Ryan was referring to is a terrific
Speaker 4: one because it labels the terrible Ones, and the terrible
Speaker 4: Ones is the Hebrew word erate in the singular. Put
Speaker 4: the im pleural on, it would be the a team
Speaker 4: the terrible Ones, just as King of Baba and the
Speaker 4: Theater Forest the terrible one and the Cedar forest. Is
Speaker 4: that Mount Herman So interesting sort of cultural parallels there,
Speaker 4: and these terrible ones did horrible things on the earth,
Speaker 4: and when they were slain, they went to the sides
Speaker 4: of the pit prison and cells to stay there. And
Speaker 4: they're being spoken to from the mighty el angels and
Speaker 4: form the gibour terrible ones that are in there, and
Speaker 4: they're talking to Pharaoh, another giant bloodline. And it's a
Speaker 4: very interesting sort of dual prophecy. This is the terrible
Speaker 4: ones that are going to be dealt with in Isaiah
Speaker 4: twenty five on a mountain in the end time, just
Speaker 4: as the passage of Psalm twenty one reference that I
Speaker 4: was talking about later. So the terrible Ones is interesting
Speaker 4: because of that word Erite, which is the part of
Speaker 4: a two part compound word of ug Arite and ug is.
Speaker 4: If we take OG's name as the last of the
Speaker 4: Rapayem in Yugurt, where that was their city, one of
Speaker 4: their main cities uh In cities of worship, and where
Speaker 4: Baal and a Nat ruled from as long as well
Speaker 4: as from Mount Herman. In the Eugaritic texts, the Rafayem
Speaker 4: are living in a city named ugar Rick. So you
Speaker 4: take Oug back to Hebrew, it's owg rooted in Uwg
Speaker 4: meaning round owg means long neck like the Anachem, so
Speaker 4: connection to the Anachem as well in terms of the likeness.
Speaker 4: And also it's thought to be by a lot of
Speaker 4: historians to mean king a title for another king, so
Speaker 4: like a gag would be a title for a king,
Speaker 4: or Maka was a typical name or a title for
Speaker 4: a king, or Talmai was a name or a title
Speaker 4: for giant kings as well, So this appears to be
Speaker 4: the city of a terrible one. And then he moves
Speaker 4: to mount Herman, I think after the war of Giants,
Speaker 4: after most of the Rafaim are wiped out, and he's
Speaker 4: going to rule over the Amorites, which are blonde haired
Speaker 4: and blue eyed and pale skin as well, so again
Speaker 4: more connected to the Anachem that way, or the Amalachem.
Speaker 4: So probably somebody by the name of Amor or Amorra
Speaker 4: as you take that back to Hebrew, as the patriarch.
Speaker 4: I think Amir Amir is the god as part of
Speaker 4: the Balin Council and the Eugaritic texts, and Amoru just
Speaker 4: as the some the Amorites are also called amaru in
Speaker 4: in in in Mesopotamia, and there was also giants named
Speaker 4: Amir listed in the Eugarytic texts as well, and so
Speaker 4: I think again that is going to be the paint
Speaker 4: ttriarch for the Amorites. And it's likely that the hybrids
Speaker 4: are created by intermarriage after the flood, and that Canaan
Speaker 4: is going to move to the land of the Covenant
Speaker 4: to produce more hybrid giants and to use the giants
Speaker 4: as protection so that they don't become the bond servants
Speaker 4: of the nations. And so when you look at that
Speaker 4: war now of the War of Giants of Genesis fourteen,
Speaker 4: they knock off the Rafayem first, and then they go
Speaker 4: down the east side of the Jordan River take out
Speaker 4: the Emine and the zamaz Zuzim. Then they sweep into
Speaker 4: the Amalachem. They switch, they sweep into the whore Em.
Speaker 4: Then they start to take out the Amorites, and then
Speaker 4: they go to the five cities ruled over by Rafayem
Speaker 4: kings the Canaanite pentapolies and takes them on. So they
Speaker 4: took out their hold the events of protection first before
Speaker 4: they hit the vassals who stop paying the tribute to
Speaker 4: the ear The Third Dynasty and so I think all
Speaker 4: of that makes sense. And the reason why you don't
Speaker 4: go attack the Canaanites, which are basically hybrids, is because
Speaker 4: it's the bigger giants and the more powerful nations that
Speaker 4: you need to take out first, who they've made an
Speaker 4: alliance with and are protecting them. So if there is
Speaker 4: a second incursion of giants after the flood, I think
Speaker 4: you might take that from my speculation, you might take
Speaker 4: that from the Curse of Canaan. And in response, right
Speaker 4: from the beginning, he is either going to intermarry with
Speaker 4: a female goddess or he is going to supply daughters,
Speaker 4: just like it was so like Genesis six ' four
Speaker 4: sons of God went to the daughter's men again, and
Speaker 4: unlike manner, so more likely the daughters that are provided
Speaker 4: to create the original giants the flood, who start to
Speaker 4: supply the patriarchs for the hybrids. And so to me
Speaker 4: that makes a little bit more sense in terms of
Speaker 4: all the various kinds of details and more that that's
Speaker 4: in the Bible. But I have to come back, you know,
Speaker 4: to the point that we don't have the smoking gun verse. Well,
Speaker 4: what we do know is giants show up after the flood,
Speaker 4: and there's some sort of distinction, and within that definition
Speaker 4: of a routine, the terrible Ones is a fertility issue.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Ryan, let me ask you this, bro, what's
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Book of Enoch Giants? You know,
Speaker 1: I know that some people would would take it as canon.
Speaker 1: I know the Ethiopian they keep, they take it as canon.
Speaker 1: What is your thoughts on the Book of Enoch Giants
Speaker 1: some of them, you know, four hundred and fifty feet
Speaker 1: tall and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So, so I think the Book of Enoch and
Speaker 3: other apocatal books that I really I kind of see
Speaker 3: them as historical sources. I don't see them as divinely
Speaker 3: inspired scripture. So I put them like, for example, I
Speaker 3: cite the works of Josephus right. Gary mentioned Josephus earlier,
Speaker 3: who has lots of good information on this topic and
Speaker 3: many topics that relate directly to Biblical passages and can
Speaker 3: confirm things from scripture. Right and Josepha's even mentions seeing
Speaker 3: bones and skeletons of the Nephilene on display.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I remember he had he had a prominent position as
Speaker 3: a historian the Roman Empire so he was so in
Speaker 3: the same way, while I think that's phenomenal evidence to
Speaker 3: support scripture, I don't see his writings as divinely inspired,
Speaker 3: and that's how I see with the Book of Enoch.
Speaker 3: So and then interest thing about the Book of Enoch
Speaker 3: also is that when we talk about the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 3: most of the time those who were using this in
Speaker 3: reference to anything with the Bible are just talking about
Speaker 3: the first Book of Enoch and disregarding the others, because
Speaker 3: there are lots of things in they that are contradicting scripture.
Speaker 3: And so I just think that we have to kind
Speaker 3: of take what can you support scripture and is great,
Speaker 3: but the things that might go against or contradict biblical accounts.
Speaker 3: Of course, obviously the Bible is going to be the
Speaker 3: final determiner and arbiter of truth. And so that being said,
Speaker 3: I do think it was an important text. Obviously, there's
Speaker 3: the verse in Jude that is cited in the Book
Speaker 3: of Enoch. There were fragments of the Book of Enoch
Speaker 3: found among the Dead Sea scrolls, So again this was
Speaker 3: something that was clearly a part of the Second Temple
Speaker 3: period in ancient Israelite culture. But I don't see it
Speaker 3: as divinely inspired. And in fact, I think the Bible
Speaker 3: really even has details that you won't find in any
Speaker 3: profitable book. And again I go back to Ezekiel chapter
Speaker 3: thirty one, where I believe the Bible is identifying the
Speaker 3: angel who led the Genesis six rebellion, as well as
Speaker 3: even giving you the exact timing of when the angels
Speaker 3: were dragged down to the abyss, which you won't find
Speaker 3: in any other text that I know of in existence.
Speaker 3: Right because I think again in Exeka thirty one, it
Speaker 3: specifically says that in the day, actually, let me just
Speaker 3: go there, just so I can say it accurately. Let here,
Speaker 3: so okay, here we go. So God, in describing the
Speaker 3: destruction all the assyrium when he sent him down there, says,
Speaker 3: this is the Lord God, and this is Ezeko thirty
Speaker 3: one fifteen. In the day he went down to the grave,
Speaker 3: I caused a morning. I covered the deep for him,
Speaker 3: and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters
Speaker 3: were stayed, and I caused Lebanon to mourn for Remember
Speaker 3: we were just talking about this idea of the Lebanese
Speaker 3: to trees the cedars of Lebanon. Right, this is metaphoric
Speaker 3: language for the angelic realm, and all the trees of
Speaker 3: the field fainted for him. So God's saying in the
Speaker 3: day that the Assyrian and I believe the Genesis six
Speaker 3: angs were dragged down to the Abyss in the floodwaters, right,
Speaker 3: He's talking about the floods. It says that the great
Speaker 3: waters were stayed. And if you look going back to
Speaker 3: Genesis chapter eight, at the timing of the flood, the
Speaker 3: whole flood chronology, the flood waters were restrained. God stopped
Speaker 3: the rains from Heaven and restrained the waters that were
Speaker 3: coming because of course there are waters coming from the
Speaker 3: fountains of the deep that broke over. So the war's
Speaker 3: coming out out of the ground. Of course, rain coming
Speaker 3: from the sky. And God say Genesis eight that God
Speaker 3: made a wind to pass over the earth and the
Speaker 3: waters assuaged. Now they're receding, and it says the fountains
Speaker 3: also of the deep, exactly what God mentions Ezekiel thirty
Speaker 3: one fifteen. And the windows of Heaven were stopped, and
Speaker 3: the rain of Heaven was restrained, and the waters returned
Speaker 3: from off of the earth continually after the end of
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty. So after one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: days after the floodwaters started, that's when the waters were
Speaker 3: Now we're turning back into the earth and now land
Speaker 3: is appearing again. And why does that matter? How can
Speaker 3: we confirm how does this connect to? How can we
Speaker 3: confirm the connection? Is that The amazing thing is you
Speaker 3: have the fallen angels who fathered the Nephilum losing their kingdom.
Speaker 3: You know, they were ruling the earth in the Antediluvian world, right,
Speaker 3: this was Atlantis. This is all the ancient mythologies when
Speaker 3: it talks about moseses but the men of renowned, you know,
Speaker 3: and we mentioned before made reference to the Herculean kings, right, Hercules, Achilles,
Speaker 3: all the age of the gods, the demi gods, the heroes.
Speaker 3: This is all a retelling of Genesis six. And so
Speaker 3: now this kingdom of the fondness and fallen angelic Nephlum
Speaker 3: hybrid kingdom is being destroyed right in the floodwaters. The
Speaker 3: Nephilim are being killed and drowned in the floodwaters. The
Speaker 3: humans on the earth are all being destroyed. But the
Speaker 3: fallen angels, of course, and they witness all of this
Speaker 3: and are just, and then are dragged down to the
Speaker 3: Abyss where they are imprisoned and still remain to today
Speaker 3: in the Abusos, in the bobomless pit. And it was
Speaker 3: all after one hundred and fifty days of being tormented
Speaker 3: by these floodwaters. They're then dragged down to another part
Speaker 3: of the earth to be imprisoned. You then fast forward
Speaker 3: all the way to the end times, to the Great Tribulation,
Speaker 3: to Revelation chapter nine. At the fifth trumpet, and what
Speaker 3: do we see? It says an angel falls from heaven
Speaker 3: and he's given the key to the bottomless pit, and
Speaker 3: he opens. I believe this is Satan who's given the
Speaker 3: key to the bobless pit, and he opens. Now the
Speaker 3: bottomless pit, the Abusos opens. And now these beings are
Speaker 3: finally released, right, it says Jude Versus six and seven
Speaker 3: confirms that they are going to be released. It says
Speaker 3: at the judgment of the Great Day, And now the
Speaker 3: foldings are released. They're called locust in Revelation chapter nine,
Speaker 3: and they are degraded. They're rotesque. They have the harib
Speaker 3: a woman, face of a man, teeth of lines tales.
Speaker 3: But now they're given a specific mission. They now torment
Speaker 3: those who are not believers in you issue and not
Speaker 3: believers in God who had this says those who do
Speaker 3: not have the seal of God in their forehead, they
Speaker 3: are tormented by these beings, it says for five months
Speaker 3: or one hundred and fifty days. So it's as you're
Speaker 3: seeing the whole through line through scripture from the flood
Speaker 3: to his Ego thirty one to two, Revelation nine, that
Speaker 3: these angels who are tormented by the flood, they are
Speaker 3: now an instrument of God's wrath in the Great Tribulation
Speaker 3: for that same time, and again, you only get these
Speaker 3: details in scripture. You don't you won't find that in
Speaker 3: the book of Enoch or Jasher or Jubilees. So again,
Speaker 3: while I think these books are good sources and provide
Speaker 3: do provide some good confirming information, the Word of God
Speaker 3: sits above them. I don't see them as divinely inspired.
Speaker 4: Amen and Gary, go ahead, brother, Yeah, a couple of
Speaker 4: things on what Ryan was saying as well. The Mystery
Speaker 4: Trees of Eden is chapter sixteen, book two for me,
Speaker 4: and those trees are talking about our angels, and the
Speaker 4: Assyrian is connected to both. You know, Azazo and through
Speaker 4: the anti Christ understanding of the Assyrian as well and
Speaker 4: to Satan, both are interconnected with anti Christ in the
Speaker 4: end time. Ryan was talking about a passage in Josephus,
Speaker 4: and I'll just read it for the people, because I
Speaker 4: think it's important to have it handy, so I will
Speaker 4: read it. It says for which reason they removed their
Speaker 4: camp to Hebron, So he's talking about post Aluvian giants
Speaker 4: here and Hebron. Then Curio Arba was the original city
Speaker 4: name before Hebron, city of Arba. And when they had
Speaker 4: taken it, they slew all of the inhabitants there were
Speaker 4: till then left. The race of giants led bodies so
Speaker 4: large and countenance is so entirely different from other men
Speaker 4: that they were surprising to the site and terrible to
Speaker 4: the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown
Speaker 4: to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of
Speaker 4: other men. They are that distinct. So it's important to
Speaker 4: remember that. And so the Book of Enoch I like
Speaker 4: the Book of Enoch a lot. I think it runs
Speaker 4: about ninety nine percent consistent. It is apocrypha, so we
Speaker 4: have to measure everything against what's written in there. Against
Speaker 4: the Bible, as Ryan says, and it does part from
Speaker 4: scripture in some areas, like it has Enoch at five
Speaker 4: hundred years old. That's probably is a rewrite in there,
Speaker 4: reflecting son of Cain versus Enox, son of Jared. There's
Speaker 4: a few other things in there, but we don't have
Speaker 4: an original Hebrew manuscript for it. And again, as Ryan said,
Speaker 4: just art small pieces. What we get is Slavonic, what
Speaker 4: we get is greet, what we get as Aramaic, and
Speaker 4: what we get is Giaz is the older sort of
Speaker 4: versions of it. So in the Aramaic version of three
Speaker 4: hundred as the unit number, it says cubit, which would
Speaker 4: make them even if it's only eighteen inch cubit four
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty feet tall. But in the Book of Giaz,
Speaker 4: which is the Ethiopian language that they received down through Solomon,
Speaker 4: in their substantiating of how they have them Cabra and
Speaker 4: the gas from the Queen of Sheba brought it back
Speaker 4: to them, and it uses the term named l's e
Speaker 4: L l s. And it's not that the Ethiopians weren't,
Speaker 4: you know, familiar with cubit. This is an l is
Speaker 4: thought to be a word that doesn't fit the Ethiopian language,
Speaker 4: and it's not cubit, and there's no other reference to
Speaker 4: them being the same, so they don't know what a
Speaker 4: measurement of an l is. And it's thought to be
Speaker 4: perhaps an antidiluvian one or early post alluvian that's been lost,
Speaker 4: but it seems likely that it's not eighteen inches. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's possible. I mean, because we talked about there's something
Speaker 4: different from the Nephyleine and the Rafayem, and they were
Speaker 4: likely bigger, just as the example of the Anachine being
Speaker 4: called Nephyline versus Rafayem in the embellies. Part of the
Speaker 4: report by the ten Terrified Scouts suggests that they were
Speaker 4: trying to scare people, so they were using a bigger,
Speaker 4: more powerful race than the Rafayem branches of races or
Speaker 4: generic race word for giants after the flood. So it's
Speaker 4: possible they're that big, but we don't get any reference
Speaker 4: points where you can make that case. They're just you know,
Speaker 4: even the cedars of Lebanon the evergreens, and just as
Speaker 4: the Amori were described like the evergreens, because these were
Speaker 4: the giant trees, they would only grow to one hundred
Speaker 4: feet tall and fifty feet wide, so again that two
Speaker 4: to one height width ratio that King Aug's bed that
Speaker 4: was also represented in the wording for stout. As we
Speaker 4: get in the KGV to describe these giants, they were stout.
Speaker 4: They're muscular, not fat like WWF wrestlers. So right, these
Speaker 4: were powerful, big things. And Gilgamesh is the largest giant
Speaker 4: outside the Bible that we have after the flood. So
Speaker 4: whether in the Euguritic texts, whether it's in the the
Speaker 4: Epic of Gilgamesh or the Epic of Idzubar, which is
Speaker 4: essentially the Epic of Gilgamesh, and it's who Smith equated
Speaker 4: with Gilgamesh and Nimrod is being the same or as
Speaker 4: being Nimrod I mean, but it's the exact same story
Speaker 4: as epi Epic of Gilgamesh. So it's just a transliterated
Speaker 4: name for Gilgamesh, or maybe it's the original name of
Speaker 4: Gilgamesh as Idsubar. They're all the same height eleven cubits
Speaker 4: tall and four cubits wide, and even in other accounts
Speaker 4: than the ones that I give, it's still that same measurement,
Speaker 4: So you get this triangulation of the same height that's
Speaker 4: carried through in different languages in different locations, and that's
Speaker 4: nineteen feet tall. That's the tallest that we would get.
Speaker 4: You could put aug with his bed, probably the biggest
Speaker 4: at fifteen feet tall, probably thirteen or fourteen feet tall.
Speaker 4: Giants in like in Greek history, like Ouranti's or Achilles
Speaker 4: giants like that, they were all about twelve feet tall,
Speaker 4: So nineteen would be the biggest that I think we
Speaker 4: could make for a post Alluvian case, which again would
Speaker 4: suggest maybe something different than the Antediluvian giants that the
Speaker 4: Book of Enoch is talking about. But again I wouldn't
Speaker 4: go beyond t one hundred feet because that's as simile
Speaker 4: describing amorites who are hybrids. But you get the understanding
Speaker 4: between the similes of grasshopper and the evergreen trees that
Speaker 4: they were much bigger than humans, right, And so they
Speaker 4: were probably you know, the anechem were probably twelve to
Speaker 4: fourteen feet tall. The giant kings that there are maybe
Speaker 4: fifteen or sixteen feet tall, but we weren't given their heights,
Speaker 4: but we get a metaphor to understand that they were
Speaker 4: very much larger and very much not human and distinct
Speaker 4: from the taller ones that are described in the report
Speaker 4: with the Amalekites hybrids, Canaanites hybrids, hit Tites hybrids, all
Speaker 4: of those races are part of the hybrid races. And
Speaker 4: in Deuteronomy one, when it gives the testimony to the
Speaker 4: veracity of what's being talked about in numbers thirteen, talks
Speaker 4: about the Amorites and the people that are taller than
Speaker 4: the Israelites, and specifically nails that as completely distinct from
Speaker 4: the Anakin kings as well, so you'll get two passages
Speaker 4: separating the people's So there's hybrids and there's giants that
Speaker 4: are that are involved in the report, but there are
Speaker 4: none of them are nepheline, otherwise the Bible would be
Speaker 4: in conflict. So that's why I lean sort of against that. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: take those with the grain of salt. Is it possible,
Speaker 4: don't rule it out, but I don't think so. I
Speaker 4: just think it's just too big of a stretch with
Speaker 4: the information that we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed also like Abraham, he sends a servant
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty miles to go and get out
Speaker 1: a wife, you know, for Isaac are Away doesn't want
Speaker 1: to intermingle with that Canaanine bloodline, and then Isaac our
Speaker 1: Rebecca actually tells Isaac Esau's marry and these women the
Speaker 1: Canaanite yes, and Jacob back to marry. Uh you know Rachel, right,
Speaker 1: that's who ends up marrying. But there so that that
Speaker 1: Canaanite theory that that that Ryan was talking about, it
Speaker 1: makes sense. But also what's interesting is these giant tribes
Speaker 1: are all around Abraham, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: they're all around him, and he's he's gonna have the
Speaker 1: seed of Jesus, so like the Devil's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: surround you with these giants. And then you notice, so
Speaker 1: I noticed that, you know, as we're going through the Bible,
Speaker 1: and everybody that's listening that that's that's listening to Sunday
Speaker 1: Service is going to recognize these things. As we're going
Speaker 1: through Genesis, think about everything that Ryan and Gary's talking about.
Speaker 1: And then as I'm mentioning these tribes as we go
Speaker 1: through the Book of Genesis, then you guys will be like, wow, ding,
Speaker 1: now we see what's happening here. Why this is an
Speaker 1: important subject, and that's why I brought you, know, both
Speaker 1: you guys on to go over this.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, right, it's a good point. And Abraham makes
Speaker 3: a servant take an oh, oh, yes, he's like swear
Speaker 3: to be this thigh, and he will not marry a
Speaker 3: Knaanite exactly right. And then you look at you have this.
Speaker 3: You have Genesis thirty eight, right, this very strange chapter
Speaker 3: that just pops up in the middle of the count
Speaker 3: of the Life of Joseph, where Judah uh has relations
Speaker 3: with the Canaanite woman.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So Judah, of course, who's show we know the Messianic tribe,
Speaker 3: the mess that is, the the tribe of Messiah. And
Speaker 3: it says that, you know, he takes a wife whose
Speaker 3: name was Shua Canaanite, and he took her and went
Speaker 3: in unto her. She conceived the bearer's son and called
Speaker 3: his name Er, And she conceived bears son again called
Speaker 3: his name Owning. And then and then right after this
Speaker 3: is happening, God kills them, says er Judas firstborn was
Speaker 3: wicked in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord
Speaker 3: slew him, and then he's so then then God kills
Speaker 3: his second son. So immediately these out of nowhere. And
Speaker 3: again this is the consistent theme when it comes to
Speaker 3: the Canaanites. And even when God is sending the Israelites
Speaker 3: to liberate the land of Canaan, it's really Canaan's descendants
Speaker 3: when he says seven nations greater and stronger than you,
Speaker 3: who are being targeted over and over again. And so
Speaker 3: we see God has no tolerance for this. And again
Speaker 3: I think it helps to also understand why is God
Speaker 3: doing this? Why is God taking such harsh action against
Speaker 3: these specific people groups. I believe it's to eliminate the
Speaker 3: Nephelene DNA from the promised land, to preserve human DNA,
Speaker 3: right to say, to ensure our redemption. And another interesting
Speaker 3: aspect of this as well is even with Sodn and
Speaker 3: Gomoor we mentioned earlier, when you look again at the
Speaker 3: genealogies in Genesis ten and eleven, it's Canaan's descendants who
Speaker 3: are living inside of ingramor they are Canaanites living there.
Speaker 3: And what do we see, of course, with Lot living there,
Speaker 3: is that they're trying to fornicate with the angels who
Speaker 3: are visiting a Lot. And what does God do, of course,
Speaker 3: he sends fire and brimstone and just takes them out.
Speaker 3: And so again when you see these I believe these sweeping,
Speaker 3: no hesitation, supernatural, cataclysmic punishments from God. It's always in
Speaker 3: a response to eradicating the Nephelem DNA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if people really want to understand what's going
Speaker 4: on in the Old Testament, you have to understand the
Speaker 4: giant influence and the people of Israel and Abraham and
Speaker 4: Isaac and Jacob and all of the patriarchs that are
Speaker 4: coming down from Abraham, they lived amongst the giants. Beginning
Speaker 4: with Abraham. He moved into the land of Canaan, which
Speaker 4: was filled with giants and hybrids, not specifically the land
Speaker 4: of giants, which is more in in and around the
Speaker 4: Mount Herman reading where one would soon assume that there
Speaker 4: are more sure bred giants there by by sort of reference,
Speaker 4: but just my my speculation on the distinction there. But
Speaker 4: as Abraham is living there, and he's also going to
Speaker 4: participate in that war of giants, and he's going to
Speaker 4: hire Amorites to go with them.
Speaker 2: And amorites or giants as well.
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're there, hybrid giants, they're tall. Yeah. So
Speaker 4: but now what's also interesting is Abraham is going to
Speaker 4: get visited by the two Angels, is as you guys
Speaker 4: have been referencing and Jehovah, and it's the two angels
Speaker 4: that go. And at that time the angels and and
Speaker 4: Jehovah made flash were recognized as as angels or the
Speaker 4: son of God at that point of time, but they
Speaker 4: revealed themselves to them, so they can be known or
Speaker 4: not known as angels in their human form, just as
Speaker 4: you can run across an angel unawares in the book
Speaker 4: of Hebrews thirteen. So you want to be nice to
Speaker 4: strangers because they can hide that they are humans, and
Speaker 4: that these physically bodied angels, so we know they can
Speaker 4: take a physical body, that's the soul in the body
Speaker 4: of the ouiquitarian that I was talking about, and that
Speaker 4: subsequently they can eat, drink, interact in the physical world,
Speaker 4: and have sex if they so chose to. They now
Speaker 4: go to Sodom and Laura asmin they're being talked about
Speaker 4: as men, but also recognize that the judges and angels
Speaker 4: coming to Sodom, so they know. So they obviously have
Speaker 4: made their presence known, maybe as shining beings. I don't know,
Speaker 4: we're not told how that would be. And now they're
Speaker 4: wanting to have sex with these two angels that you're
Speaker 4: referring to earlier, and so what's going on with that
Speaker 4: conversation is that homosexual sex because they refuse the daughters
Speaker 4: of Sodom that were, like the one presumes revirgins and
Speaker 4: they refuse them, or where they completely conversant with the
Speaker 4: understanding of how giants are created. They have rafa in
Speaker 4: kings that are probably hybrids, and there's that fertility issue,
Speaker 4: but they want to create more giants to help them
Speaker 4: in their protection from other forces. And are they saying,
Speaker 4: we know these angels, they could either reproduce with us
Speaker 4: or our daughters. So it's not clear whether or not
Speaker 4: that's what they're doing, or they're saying change into a
Speaker 4: female form because we know you're a changeling and we'll
Speaker 4: have sex with you. So when we get into the
Speaker 4: New Testament that explains this in the Book of Jude.
Speaker 4: In the Book of Jude in particular, Peter is talking
Speaker 4: about this filthy conversation and here's why they want to
Speaker 4: have sex with strange flesh in Jude one six. And
Speaker 4: that's very odd because again that strange flesh, as you
Speaker 4: take that back to the Greek, is meaning a different race,
Speaker 4: a non human being a non human non human Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: And so that has a preternatural nature to the sex act,
Speaker 4: and that if you're going to do that and it's recognized,
Speaker 4: you're wanting to get something more out of it than
Speaker 4: just the normal sex. So there, to me, it's it's
Speaker 4: talking about the same crimes because J'd won six is
Speaker 4: you know, connecting that information as in second Peter that
Speaker 4: this is the same crimes that were committed by the
Speaker 4: angels before the flood, and so that having giants amongst
Speaker 4: them and how they were produced and ones maybe early
Speaker 4: on that they met where there was more being produced
Speaker 4: in that way, they were completely familiar with it and
Speaker 4: they wanted that. Again, so again goes to the ability
Speaker 4: or the possibility that Stottom might be the location for
Speaker 4: post Alluvian creation of giants. Now what's interesting again not scriptural,
Speaker 4: but it's just you start to connect some data points
Speaker 4: on some of this. And Sodom and Gomorrah were renowned
Speaker 4: cities of light and all of the cities of the
Speaker 4: plane both before and after the flood in the Gnostic version,
Speaker 4: and in the Gnostic version the giants were created not
Speaker 4: at Mount Herman, because that's just where the oath is sworn,
Speaker 4: and we don't get we have from the Book of
Speaker 4: Enoch that's where Harem Anathema is is taken at at
Speaker 4: Mount Saffon, and the Eugaridic texts or scion Orshaneer or Us,
Speaker 4: there's one other name. It doesn't really matter of that
Speaker 4: it's listed in the Bible. But Herman comes from Haram
Speaker 4: and Herem, which means curse or cursed. So it's the
Speaker 4: cursed oath of Harem Anathema that is sworn there to
Speaker 4: carry it out to the end, but not necessarily the creation.
Speaker 4: It may have, but we're not told that either in
Speaker 4: the Book of Enoch or elsewhere, that the creation happened
Speaker 4: on Mount Hermon. So the Gnostics believe the original ones
Speaker 4: were Gomora before the flood and then Sowdom after the flood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Sodom and Gomora thing is is
Speaker 1: fascinating to me, you know, it's it's it's fascinating because
Speaker 1: I believe that that was Jesus, you know, talking, you know,
Speaker 1: with Abraham, and he's and he's giving them a chance.
Speaker 1: He's saying, I've heard of all these things.
Speaker 2: If they've done.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna send these two angels to basically give
Speaker 1: me a report to see if it's true, and he's
Speaker 1: giving them the grace of God, giving them another chance,
Speaker 1: and they go there and they do exactly what's been reported.
Speaker 2: So God is like, okay, think about what God did.
Speaker 1: Jesus the Lord gets fire sent from the Lord in
Speaker 1: heaven and they destroyed the city. What other time do
Speaker 1: you see that God is getting involved like that? So
Speaker 1: there's something I think more than just homosexuality that that's
Speaker 1: definitely been going on. But they have so much lust
Speaker 1: for these angels that they get blinded and they're still
Speaker 1: trying to get to the door. And it shows lots
Speaker 1: of righteousness too. It does show that the Abraham was right.
Speaker 1: He is righteous. Now is he a righteous man in
Speaker 1: some ways? No, but he's righteous in the way that
Speaker 1: he's very hospitable to these angels, and he's also telling
Speaker 1: them he's getting tested as he's going. He's tested in hey,
Speaker 1: come to my house. Now we're going to sleep in
Speaker 1: the in the court. No, no, no, come to my house.
Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, he's righteous in that. And he's
Speaker 1: also righteous because he's standing in between them and saying
Speaker 1: that You're not going to do this to you know,
Speaker 1: to these to these these men, you know, even though
Speaker 1: they're angels. Right, So I think it's fascinating. But in
Speaker 1: the Book of Jude it says that they they've given
Speaker 1: themselves over to sexual immorality, which is obviously the lust
Speaker 1: of women and men, you know, but mostly you know,
Speaker 1: the men part and gone after strange flesh, which is
Speaker 1: non human. So I think that I think it's just
Speaker 1: a story that a lot of pastors don't get deep into.
Speaker 1: They just talk about the homosexuality aspect. But I like
Speaker 1: Ryan to go over his version of this because it's
Speaker 1: it's fascinating when you go over.
Speaker 3: It, you know, go ahead and Ryan, yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you nail the head. So I
Speaker 3: think I think it's not uh, it should be discussed
Speaker 3: the right way. That there was something much greater going
Speaker 3: on here that were and I think what was taking
Speaker 3: place again is that this idea you said, when does
Speaker 3: God do something like that? Has come down from heaven right,
Speaker 3: because he said that this basically the sins of sodom
Speaker 3: were reaching heaven. Right, Yeah, we see any And I
Speaker 3: think what they were trying to do is you still
Speaker 3: have after the flood, this knowledge of the days of Noah, right,
Speaker 3: this idea that we could there's a possibility of bringing
Speaker 3: back that age of the gods on Earth, of the
Speaker 3: fallen angels, all the nephiling of the Hybridge right, and
Speaker 3: even today in the occult, there are many who are
Speaker 3: trying to bring that araback. They're trying to open up
Speaker 3: a portal to bring back the fallen angels. And I
Speaker 3: think that's what was happening at Sadom and Gomor that
Speaker 3: it was much more than homosexuality. This is about we
Speaker 3: can try and recreate the days of Nobel. We can
Speaker 3: try and bring back and recreate the Nephlium hybrids and
Speaker 3: bring back the fallen angels. And that's why God had
Speaker 3: to respond in that way. And we see a similar
Speaker 3: thing in the Tower of Babel, where again it's like
Speaker 3: this idea of you have one, you have Nimrod, I
Speaker 3: believe leading this whole thing, who identify as a four
Speaker 3: shadow precursor of the anti Christ right, sitting up this
Speaker 3: one world government and religious system and building this tower.
Speaker 3: They said can reach up unto Heaven. Right, they want
Speaker 3: to reach to heaven to make a name for themselves.
Speaker 3: And I think again, just like Sadamon and Gomour, was
Speaker 3: just more than homosexuality. This was more than just a
Speaker 3: construction project to make a skyscraper. I believe they were
Speaker 3: trying to open up up. I consider, you know, this
Speaker 3: was like an ancient version of Cern the Tower of Babbel,
Speaker 3: that they were trying to open up that the you know,
Speaker 3: to remove the veil between the divine realm and the
Speaker 3: human room and bring back the fall nails and the
Speaker 3: days of Noah. And of course Timrod, as we referenced earlier,
Speaker 3: reference to you know, when you look at the septuogen
Speaker 3: it says that he became a giant. He began to
Speaker 3: be a giant upon the earth. Three times it uses
Speaker 3: the word giant to refer to Nimrod in the septuagen.
Speaker 3: So I think there's a link here between Nimrod and
Speaker 3: the days of Noah and how he became a giant.
Speaker 3: I believe it could have been through a cult ritual
Speaker 3: that he was transformed into a hybrid and becomes this leader.
Speaker 3: And not only they're trying to make a name for themselves,
Speaker 3: they even put Chemalar in Hebrew the bitchum in the
Speaker 3: tar around they they they make it waterproof the tower,
Speaker 3: so in case God tries to flood the earth again,
Speaker 3: it's they're not going to go down in a flood.
Speaker 3: They use the same substance that Noah used to seal
Speaker 3: the Arka, but make it waterproof on the Tower of Babel.
Speaker 3: And what does God say. It says that God of
Speaker 3: course looks down. And I think that account contains one
Speaker 3: of the most chilling passages in scripture where God says
Speaker 3: that this thing they have done, that if they continue
Speaker 3: to do this, if they complete the tower, God says
Speaker 3: that there will be nothing which they imagine to do
Speaker 3: will be restrained from them. So by completing this tower,
Speaker 3: there was some power they were going to unlock that
Speaker 3: they could do anything on earth. And again I think
Speaker 3: that's why God what does he do? He has to
Speaker 3: literally come down and destroy it and of course scatter
Speaker 3: the nations and create all the foreign languages and separate
Speaker 3: the people. But God has to just like he had
Speaker 3: to do it Sodninggamore, because again it's this idea of
Speaker 3: breaking open the veil, bringing back the days of Noah.
Speaker 3: That's when God has to come in and personally, supernaturally
Speaker 3: bring that type of rebellion to an end.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, in the Acadian version, it's not babe l,
Speaker 4: it's bab aloo i lu is a transliteration of e L,
Speaker 4: but it's not translated as confusion of languages. It's translated
Speaker 4: as bab as in a portal or a gateway of
Speaker 4: the gods. And so that suggests that there might have
Speaker 4: been greater technology which is alluded to there's nothing that
Speaker 4: they're going to be prevented from doing, and that he
Speaker 4: may have been wanting to do two things, one to
Speaker 4: go into the dimension of Hades and shale to release
Speaker 4: his imprisoned pantheon of gods and demon spirits from the
Speaker 4: pitt prison, and or going into heaven to war in
Speaker 4: heaven as Satan once did, and what Antichrist is reserved
Speaker 4: for Antichrist in Daniel eight through ten, eight through ten.
Speaker 4: So that's that's an interesting sort of Analey. I agree
Speaker 4: with you. That's also the root for the Babel religion, Babylon,
Speaker 4: it's the root word for that. It's that same inn
Speaker 4: Ochian mysticism that crosses the flood Enoch son of Cain
Speaker 4: not Jared from that Anochian mysticism. And that halal or
Speaker 4: I mean not hal al kalal is that ritual and
Speaker 4: knowledge because it's a gnostic knowledge religion that he's receiving
Speaker 4: and taking. And in the Polychronicon and the Freemasons, they
Speaker 4: say he receives the antediluvian knowledge found by Hermes that's
Speaker 4: given to him, that would have all of the angelic knowledge,
Speaker 4: that is the knowledge that we're just sort of catching
Speaker 4: up to to this day. And so that Days of
Speaker 4: Noah is very important to know. And that's why I
Speaker 4: start off in book two with the Days of Noah
Speaker 4: and Lot, because the sign of Noah we get in
Speaker 4: Matthew and Mark with the flood, but Lot connects Sodom
Speaker 4: and Gomora into that. So for the preternatural insertion that
Speaker 4: you're referencing of Jehovah of the Elohem to come down
Speaker 4: and have his angels to do an end time type
Speaker 4: of destruction that's reserved as two Peter three says, for
Speaker 4: the end time. And why probably the flood comes as
Speaker 4: a prevention of destruction by fire by the giants who
Speaker 4: had the angelic technology so that it wouldn't happen before
Speaker 4: the end time. Is that connection of the same crimes.
Speaker 4: The same things that were happening before the flood happens
Speaker 4: at Sodom and Gomorrah, and that that includes creation of
Speaker 4: giants by inference, obviously because it doesn't specifically state that,
Speaker 4: but it's it's exactly the same. In the days of
Speaker 4: Noah were six hundred years before the flood, three hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty years after the flood, and it says the
Speaker 4: days of Noah in Genesis nine twenty nine, Jesus is
Speaker 4: using and as it's translated from the Greek into English,
Speaker 4: the exact same words that's translated from Hebrew into English
Speaker 4: in the Old Testament, and we're to understand both sides
Speaker 4: of the flood. So Abraham was born two hundred and
Speaker 4: ninety two years after the flood, as I recall, that's
Speaker 4: within the three hundred and fifty years after the flood
Speaker 4: that Noah lived. And so this is within that time
Speaker 4: frame of the Age of Abraham where that destruction is
Speaker 4: akin to what happened before the flood, only with water
Speaker 4: there and akin to what's happening in the end time,
Speaker 4: but with fire like it was a thought Hmon and
Speaker 4: Gomora all for the same reasons. And if that's the case.
Speaker 4: It's a big if. If that's the case, then the
Speaker 4: offspring gods who rule after the flood in all pantheons
Speaker 4: around the world, Zeus son of Cronos, only Anky, son
Speaker 4: of Nu, Bail, son of l Osirius, son of raw
Speaker 4: all around the world, they would go to the pit
Speaker 4: prison for the same crimes.
Speaker 2: Yes, and oh go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to jump in because gouvernm at
Speaker 3: that point about Enochium, mysticism and Freemasonry, right, and how
Speaker 3: this is all connected, right in terms of the understanding
Speaker 3: of what they were trying to achieve spiritually. So the
Speaker 3: the Free Masonic Constitution which is drafted in the nineteenth century,
Speaker 3: is actually called the Ahemon Raison, so it's literally named
Speaker 3: after Ahiman and then of course Raison the first kings
Speaker 3: it describes Raison. This is after Solomon has fallen into
Speaker 3: massive idolatry from all the wives and concubines. He's worshiping
Speaker 3: all the fallen angels and demons, and he says God
Speaker 3: is a punishment, sends Raison, who is an adversary, And
Speaker 3: three times it uses the Hebrew words that Tom Satan,
Speaker 3: he's an adversary who Abhores Israel, and the Freemason Constitution
Speaker 3: is called ahemon raison. And then in it and this
Speaker 3: is just a quote from the Encyclopedia Freemasonry, it's referring
Speaker 3: to this book. It says the legend of the craft
Speaker 3: in the Old Constitution refers to Nimrod as one of
Speaker 3: the founders of freemasonry. Thus, in the York Manuscript re
Speaker 3: read at the making of the Tower of Babel, there
Speaker 3: there was masonry first, much esteemed of. And the king
Speaker 3: of Babylon was called Nimrod, a mason himself and loved
Speaker 3: well of freemasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wrote the first He wrote the first Constitution
Speaker 4: and other aspects from the legends of the craft. That's
Speaker 4: sort of an extension out of the Polychronicon. He writes
Speaker 4: the first constitution for masonry after the flood, and he's
Speaker 4: the first grand Master of masonry. But the history of
Speaker 4: masonry goes to before the flood. And that's the knowledge
Speaker 4: according to the legends of the craft that Hermes or
Speaker 4: Harmine his name, finds under the Great Pyramids and nine
Speaker 4: vaults and thirty six, five hundred and twenty five books,
Speaker 4: and he takes that information back to Nimrod, and that's
Speaker 4: what he uses to initiate a thousand masons to build
Speaker 4: Dabel City, Babel Tower, and whatever else technology comes along
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 1: Wow. Also there's another time when God gets involved. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Joshua. This is Joshua ten verses twelve through thirteen.
Speaker 1: It says, then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the
Speaker 1: day that the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the
Speaker 1: children of Israel, and he said, in the side of Israel,
Speaker 1: sun stand still over Gibeon and moon in the valley
Speaker 1: of his John. So the sun stood still and the
Speaker 1: mood stopped till the people that avenged upon their enemies.
Speaker 1: Is it not written in the book of Josture. So
Speaker 1: the sun stood still in the midst of heaven and
Speaker 1: did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.
Speaker 1: So the Amorites are giants, right, So God is getting involved.
Speaker 1: If you notice when God gets involved, He gets involved
Speaker 1: with the flood because the sons of God went to
Speaker 1: the daughters of men. They had an ephilem, right, so
Speaker 1: he had to get involved. Then he got involved with
Speaker 1: the Tower of Babel right where we think that they're
Speaker 1: trying to entice these angels to have sex with women
Speaker 1: again and create a Nephilee, and the Nimrod became a
Speaker 1: mighty man, maybe a giant, and then we have Sodom
Speaker 1: and Gomorra.
Speaker 2: God is getting involved again.
Speaker 1: Every time that God is getting involved, it is a
Speaker 1: catastrophic event that is going to change human history, whether
Speaker 1: and and change obviously what's gonna happen with the Messiah
Speaker 1: the seed, right, So it's really interesting when you go
Speaker 1: through the Bible. But this is another instance where the
Speaker 1: Amorites were delivered before Israel and they're fighting, and God
Speaker 1: made the sun and moon stand still on two geographical
Speaker 1: locations until.
Speaker 2: The events their enemies.
Speaker 1: So you see that it's it's a it's a pattern
Speaker 1: that happens when God gets involved, like physically involved with
Speaker 1: with with these battles and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting.
Speaker 4: Well, and and the other thing, the other thing to
Speaker 4: take away from that story to interruct and then I'll
Speaker 4: continue on the giants is is when God something as
Speaker 4: a sign, it's out of the laws of the physical universe.
Speaker 4: It's not what could be done by anything else but
Speaker 4: the God of the universe. And only God could stop
Speaker 4: the moon and the sun to extend that day. So
Speaker 4: when you have the star over Bethlehem standing still, that's
Speaker 4: outside the laws of the physical universe. The signs that
Speaker 4: God is going to provide us in the end time
Speaker 4: will be akin to that and different than the false
Speaker 4: signs of the false prophets. And we need to sort
Speaker 4: of understand that. And there's a lot of people involved.
Speaker 4: On the Giants and Amrites are involved, but you also
Speaker 4: have the Hivveen that are also involved, and the gibbe
Speaker 4: a name as well, which is another tribe, although some
Speaker 4: of them have made a treaty, and you would also
Speaker 4: have anachem that were in there as well that we're
Speaker 4: living in that area, and probably some forum as well.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Ryan, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was just gonna say that in those examples of God,
Speaker 3: you know, coming personally intervening, it also demonstrates that God,
Speaker 3: God's love God will we as humanity bring ourselves to
Speaker 3: the brink of destruction time and time again, and God
Speaker 3: keeps coming in to to come in and rescue us. Right,
Speaker 3: all these things. Can you know this understanding, this proper
Speaker 3: understanding of the Nephilim of Genesis six, It helps our witness,
Speaker 3: It helps us to reconcile. Why is God even doing
Speaker 3: these things? It's because it's we have an enemy that
Speaker 3: is literally trying to exterminate us, to make us to
Speaker 3: eat our entire race. And God will come in at
Speaker 3: every critical moment and bring us back from the brink
Speaker 3: of destruction. Why John three sixteen, of course, because he
Speaker 3: so loves the world that he will do anything, even
Speaker 3: give his own son to rescue us.
Speaker 2: On mute, there we go, sorry.
Speaker 4: And it helps us to understand the world. You know,
Speaker 4: when I use the i am suffix, it's is it
Speaker 4: is used in the Bible, but it gets a bit
Speaker 4: confusing when you have who rights and hor m and
Speaker 4: you're not sure that they're talking about the same people.
Speaker 4: Uh anakites anakine, same type of example that I am
Speaker 4: when I did research on it. And why I reference
Speaker 4: in book two all of the giants as with an
Speaker 4: i am suffix for the male plural, is that that
Speaker 4: was an ancient suffix to anoe of majestic bloodline from
Speaker 4: the gods. And so it helps us to understand the world.
Speaker 4: You know, that that that that we live in. And
Speaker 4: you know, there's more giants that are listed in the
Speaker 4: Bible than than what most people think. And I go
Speaker 4: through and I list all of these giants and hybrid giants,
Speaker 4: and I will take most of them back to a
Speaker 4: patriarch of each so uh celestial mafia, godfather, patriarch, giant
Speaker 4: of the tribe, and the hybrid's back to a specific
Speaker 4: refaem patriarch after the flood. And if you know, if
Speaker 4: you don't understand the difference between who the peoples are,
Speaker 4: it gets very, very confusing. And when I first came
Speaker 4: on the scene, people will talk about heights and say
Speaker 4: anything that ends in an eight is a giant. I'm going, well,
Speaker 4: that's kind of weird. Why would you say that? And
Speaker 4: they said, well, because you have the Canaanites and you
Speaker 4: have the Amorites. And I'm going, well, what about the Israelites?
Speaker 4: He said, you know, are you saying are you saying
Speaker 4: they're giants? So, and I'll just name you know some
Speaker 4: of these ones if people haven't heard of these. You've
Speaker 4: got the Hivm, the Parizemee, the Harem, the Amalachem, the Gebeleim,
Speaker 4: the Zuzim, the Zanzuzim, the Amine, the Gesherim, the Gerzim,
Speaker 4: the Maka theme, the Avim, the Kennizine, the Kennem, the Cadmini,
Speaker 4: the chera Theme, the Cafterim, the casual Em, and there's
Speaker 4: more than that, like the Olamine is another one of
Speaker 4: Eastern giants as well that's listed in the Bible. And
Speaker 4: then you have the Iites that are hybrids, and then
Speaker 4: you have the humans and to understand that you sort
Speaker 4: of need to keep them separate. And once you do,
Speaker 4: it really sort of lights up in front of you
Speaker 4: what's going on, and all of the things and the
Speaker 4: details associated with taking of heads and things that comes
Speaker 4: out of the Bible as well starts to make some
Speaker 4: sense because that's how you would keep a giant dead
Speaker 4: because they had the ability to heal themselves, which is
Speaker 4: part of that root word for rafa. Rafa is the
Speaker 4: root word seventy four ninety five is to heal or
Speaker 4: medicine or words like that. And just as an Eugytic text,
Speaker 4: the rapiu Ram, which is the RPM original Semitic for Rafaeem,
Speaker 4: the H is added to the language like with the
Speaker 4: NPL for nephealm in the Hebrew language over time to
Speaker 4: get the H in there. You have the neugratic texts.
Speaker 4: These refaem cold. They're described as giants and kings in
Speaker 4: this majestic bloodline with the tribe of Titanus, of the
Speaker 4: assembly of the Giants at Mount Saffon or Mount Herman.
Speaker 4: They could heal themselves and other people. They were like
Speaker 4: the Mythos of the priest kings right where they were healers.
Speaker 4: They could not only heal themselves but others. So if
Speaker 4: you didn't hit them in a way that would go
Speaker 4: right through their brain or cut them off at the neck,
Speaker 4: they could repair themselves. Whether it's by technology or DNA.
Speaker 4: I would probably think DNA, but there's arguments for technology
Speaker 4: like a sarcophagus as well, And that these refaem Are
Speaker 4: is the root word for seventy four ninety seven for giant,
Speaker 4: and so it carries that forth with it. And seventy
Speaker 4: four ninety six is the rafa again same spelling as
Speaker 4: the other two raffas, and it means a demon spirit,
Speaker 4: an evil spirit. These are the devils, the disembodied spirits
Speaker 4: that whose bodies died that Jesus is dealing with in
Speaker 4: the New Testament, that are possessing people. And that word
Speaker 4: devil is a bad translation because it doesn't go back
Speaker 4: to Diablos as devil is used for Satan goes back
Speaker 4: to damon, the Greek word for demon. So you want
Speaker 4: to understand what's going on in the Old Testament, understand Rafaem.
Speaker 4: It's so important, and it gives us information to the bloodlines.
Speaker 4: It gives us information to how everything worked and why
Speaker 4: these beings considered themselves superior to humankind.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also it shows you why God would send an army
Speaker 1: or send people to kill all the men, women and
Speaker 1: children of a tribe. And people say, well, why would
Speaker 1: God do that? Like that's what atheists try to use
Speaker 1: those type of arguments. Now you can once you go
Speaker 1: back to Genesis six and you find out what's going on,
Speaker 1: that's why they're doing this stuff. So it's very important
Speaker 1: for us to understand this. And I think it's super important.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Ryn, I think you were going to
Speaker 1: say something.
Speaker 3: No, No, I agree. It's excellent point. Excellent point, And
Speaker 3: I was saying, you know, it really helps the witness
Speaker 3: of scripture and shows the heart and nature of God.
Speaker 3: So arendred percent Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, another good piece of information to understand the wars
Speaker 4: of the giants and the Old testament is people will say, well,
Speaker 4: how were they able to kill the giants? While we're
Speaker 4: told that God just bobulated the giants and they were
Speaker 4: in a panic sort of state, But how did they
Speaker 4: do that? Before I give the answer to that. One
Speaker 4: of the things that comes down with it the bloodlines
Speaker 4: is this ancient ability that they've lost for the most
Speaker 4: part now is to have the hide mind, that they
Speaker 4: could do more things working together. It's like this borg
Speaker 4: mine and they all communicated telepathically and they call it
Speaker 4: the hide mind. And so what's interesting about that is
Speaker 4: that God says I'm going to and it's quoted three times.
Speaker 4: It's not the only thing that God's going to do,
Speaker 4: like on the time of the sun shining. Still there's
Speaker 4: hailstones and things coming out of the sky as well,
Speaker 4: But for the most part, it's going to be these hornets.
Speaker 4: And what I'm going I used to think, why would hornets?
Speaker 4: Well's the big deal. Okay, they could sting, but why hornets, Well,
Speaker 4: hornets are the natural enemy of the bee, and that
Speaker 4: just totally discombobulated them. That the Israelites could just walk
Speaker 4: up and lop off their heads.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also David versus Goliath. You know, David, he
Speaker 1: hit him with the stone in the head.
Speaker 2: Then what he do?
Speaker 1: He came to cut his head off and held his
Speaker 1: head up and everybody was, yeah, to.
Speaker 4: Make sure he was still dead. Yeah, he was going
Speaker 4: to get back up.
Speaker 1: And the people they cheered like once that happened, because
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, we know he's dead for sure.
Speaker 2: He's holding the head, you know, So I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 4: And took five stones with him, not because he thought
Speaker 4: he was going to miss. Yeah, Goliath had full of brothers,
Speaker 4: and Goliath was also king of Gath, so he might
Speaker 4: have been thinking either it's four brothers or the four
Speaker 4: other kings of the Philistine Bentapolis are going to come
Speaker 4: after him, So he was prepared to kill four other giants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh and Abraham also like, what doesn't he
Speaker 1: deal with uh?
Speaker 2: Ah? Doesn't he also deal with the Philistine king? Or
Speaker 2: is that Isaac? I can't remember. I think it's Isaac
Speaker 2: deals with the Philistine king?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And where he's saying that that uh that Rachel is his?
Speaker 2: Uh is his is a sister?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Or Rebecca is a sister. I'm sorry, I can't remember
Speaker 2: at this moment. But yeah, I think it's just it's
Speaker 2: just fastinating.
Speaker 1: So as we go through the Book of Genesis, guys,
Speaker 1: I think we should wrap up because I think Ryan,
Speaker 1: aren't you like three hours ahead.
Speaker 3: Of me, lady.
Speaker 1: He's like, like, what is it like Monday morning or
Speaker 1: two in the morning? There it is after one, Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think we're getting close.
Speaker 2: So but I always like to say.
Speaker 1: I always like to give you guys an opportunity to
Speaker 1: maybe shout the importance of what we just spoke about,
Speaker 1: the importance of all right, you know, kind of give
Speaker 1: us some last words, kind of wrap this thing up,
Speaker 1: because I don't want Ryan to be up till two
Speaker 1: or three in the morning.
Speaker 2: Here. I appreciate your time greatly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, listen, I appreciate you brother. Thank you for
Speaker 3: having me on Gary always honored on Disgusting panel with
Speaker 3: your round table discussion. This is great and so you know,
Speaker 3: my my thing is just to say, you know, thank
Speaker 3: everyone for listening, for watching. You know, as you hear this,
Speaker 3: if you're a Christian, I hope this just sparks more
Speaker 3: passion for you to get into the word right in
Speaker 3: his times. As we are rapidly approaching the end, the
Speaker 3: return of our Messiah. Right, this is what it's all about.
Speaker 3: It's all about Jesus. We need to just be strong
Speaker 3: in our word, to share God's gospel, to share his
Speaker 3: truth and to be a light in this dark world.
Speaker 3: And I would also say that, whether you are Christian
Speaker 3: or you're not a believer, think about the things that
Speaker 3: we're talking about. And we didn't even scratch the surface.
Speaker 3: We talked about genetics. We didn't even get into things
Speaker 3: like the UFO UFP phenomenon, aliens, things like that, transhumanism,
Speaker 3: how so many things that Jesus said. Jesus said that
Speaker 3: the end times are going to be a repetition of
Speaker 3: the days of Noah, and we're seeing that happen right
Speaker 3: before our eyes. Whether we're talking about life, it's an
Speaker 3: extension technology, Chrisper, genetic manipulation, cern all these things that
Speaker 3: happen before. The Bible said is going to happen again.
Speaker 3: And it said this from over two thousand years ago,
Speaker 3: and no other text you're going to on this earth
Speaker 3: is going to have the accuracy of prophecy. This is
Speaker 3: how God proves himself and we're seeing it all take
Speaker 3: place before our eyes. So I want to put in
Speaker 3: this PSA and plug for the Bible, for the truth
Speaker 3: of the Bible, that you're not going to find this
Speaker 3: in any other religious text, that it's going to literally
Speaker 3: show you right the headlines are happening right before our
Speaker 3: eyes today. Was all written two thousand years ago. And
Speaker 3: why because God wants you to trust him. God wants
Speaker 3: you to know that he loves you, that he's redeemed you,
Speaker 3: that he has a plan to bring you back. And
Speaker 3: the best part is that it's free, absolutely free. It's
Speaker 3: simply in the heart. It's simply putting your faith in
Speaker 3: trust in Jesus Christ. You don't have to walk anywhere,
Speaker 3: you don't have to perform and act, you don't have
Speaker 3: to go and go to any special city. It simply
Speaker 3: starts right here. And so I encourage you and welcome
Speaker 3: you to get to give God a chance and put
Speaker 3: your trust in Jesus Christ, because there's a great plan
Speaker 3: we've been talking about, in a great battle that he
Speaker 3: is going to win when he returns.
Speaker 4: Gary, go ahead, brother, Yeah, good stuff, Ryan, And always
Speaker 4: a pleasure to work with you. And you know, we
Speaker 4: think we probably agree on about ninety seven ninety eight
Speaker 4: percent of everything, so much so it's a it's a
Speaker 4: pleasure to just try and add additional information in for
Speaker 4: people on things. So understand that. God lets I would
Speaker 4: have people understand this. God lets everything happen through free choice.
Speaker 4: Everybody has a choice here to choose God or not.
Speaker 4: And if you don't choose either, you still made a choice.
Speaker 4: So you need to know that no choice is still
Speaker 4: a choice. And God is not the one causing all
Speaker 4: of this on the earth. It's the inhabitants of the
Speaker 4: earth and the spurious race and the fallen angels who
Speaker 4: created the spiritous race that operate through the counsel of
Speaker 4: the gods that's talked about in Psalms eighty two. We
Speaker 4: need to understand that. And Satan is the prince of
Speaker 4: this world for a period of time, and so God
Speaker 4: intercedes at times so that all the names in the
Speaker 4: Book of Life have the opportunity to leave the name
Speaker 4: in or have it blotted out. Everybody's name will receive
Speaker 4: that gift. And he permits this to go on so
Speaker 4: that he can fulfill that number and that was created
Speaker 4: from that book and names were listed from before creation.
Speaker 4: So he's not an evil God. And if Polytheis say, well,
Speaker 4: he brought the flood, well maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
Speaker 4: Maybe he permitted the flood because he's Alpha Omega, and
Speaker 4: or maybe as part of a reprieve for the fallen angels,
Speaker 4: they brought the flood so that they could at least
Speaker 4: live another a few thousand years in the pit prison
Speaker 4: before they go to the Lake of Fire. Because when
Speaker 4: you look at Polytheism, it's the gods who bring the flood.
Speaker 4: They're the evil ones that want to wipe humankind from
Speaker 4: the face of the earth and so that we don't
Speaker 4: reach our destiny, and that was their plan. So understand
Speaker 4: that it's not God being evil. He doesn't wish anything
Speaker 4: for this. If people had chosen God's way from the
Speaker 4: time of Adam and Eve, this would play it out differently.
Speaker 4: If Israel had fulfilled the Covenant, it would have played
Speaker 4: out differently. But we're going through the curses of the
Speaker 4: Covenant because God lets things play out. But he's greater
Speaker 4: than free choice. So just keep that in mind when
Speaker 4: people are pressuring you from the wisdom of the world,
Speaker 4: that you got to take a step back, that there's
Speaker 4: a bigger picture that God is looking at and he
Speaker 4: already knows how things end, because he's Alpha Omega. And
Speaker 4: that if you were thinking that things aren't right and
Speaker 4: we might be in the fig tree generation or approaching
Speaker 4: the fig tree generation, and you're trying to imagine or
Speaker 4: excited about being part of that, hey, don't be excited,
Speaker 4: because nobody should want to go through what's coming. And
Speaker 4: if you're going to try to imagine it, you cannot
Speaker 4: imagine what's coming. The only way we can come close
Speaker 4: to what's coming is understand what's happened before. And that's
Speaker 4: why we're encouraged to learn about the days of Noah,
Speaker 4: both before and after the flood, where watchers walked amongst us,
Speaker 4: giants walked amongst us, and the destruction of mankind and
Speaker 4: human kind so we were not be resurrected. Was the
Speaker 4: play was the gambit. And so if you don't think
Speaker 4: that the Bible says this, then I'll refer you to
Speaker 4: Ecclesiastics one. And I don't care what's transcena. Nothing is
Speaker 4: new under the sun. What was will be again. And
Speaker 4: here's the here's the clincher. As you get on, I think,
Speaker 4: starting in about verse seventeen, the understanding of this is
Speaker 4: only going to bring grief and sorrow, yes, and so
Speaker 4: to help us understand what is going on and that
Speaker 4: we are indeed the resolution to the angelic rebellion, that
Speaker 4: everything that is happening has to take place. If we
Speaker 4: are going to help others, we have to understand and
Speaker 4: be able to communicate it in a logical and rational
Speaker 4: way and role model so that people will try to
Speaker 4: understand and start searching out the Word of God, because
Speaker 4: if indeed we are in the fig Tree generation, there's
Speaker 4: not not much time left to get people to start
Speaker 4: preparing themselves for what's coming. And it's going to be
Speaker 4: absolutely horrific and unimaginable on so many different levels. But
Speaker 4: we can get a glimpse of it if we can
Speaker 4: understand prehistory and context.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, amen, everything you guys said, I one hundred
Speaker 1: percent agree with and everybody that's listening, you know, like
Speaker 1: like Ryan said, you know and Gary was saying, is
Speaker 1: we have free will.
Speaker 2: We have a choice, and what we're choosing to do
Speaker 2: is to.
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Speaker 1: is not boring. We're bringing the Bible alive as much
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Speaker 1: We're just trying to be vessels for you guys. So
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Speaker 2: In the future.
Speaker 1: And Gary just came up with these two books that
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Speaker 1: And I just really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: So thank you. Ryan.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much, bro for coming on this
Speaker 1: one and on my show. And then Gary, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate you all the research you guys have to, you know,
Speaker 1: to bring this forth.
Speaker 2: So like we always do, we're gonna end this in prayer.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pray for everybody listening to this show right now,
Speaker 1: So Father God, in the name of Jesus, and you
Speaker 1: show them a Sheihak's name.
Speaker 2: We appreciate everything you do for us.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for giving these guys the motivation
Speaker 1: to dig deep into your word and show us these
Speaker 1: different viewpoints and help us to understand why everything has happened,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as the flood, Sodo Mighemora, all
Speaker 1: the different things that we read throughout your scripture. Lord,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you giving us the opportunity to even be
Speaker 1: able to read the Bible. I know back in the
Speaker 1: day there was people that were illiterate, not even being
Speaker 1: able to read. They'd have to have other people explain
Speaker 1: this information to them. Now, God, you give us the
Speaker 1: opportunity to read it in Greek and Hebrew and find
Speaker 1: out exactly what you're saying in different languages. And you
Speaker 1: give us every you know, new King James, the King James,
Speaker 1: they and all these different ways for us to research.
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Lord, Thank you so much, and thank
Speaker 1: you for everything you do for us. I just want
Speaker 1: to ask that you protect Ryan, you protect Gary. I
Speaker 1: know sometimes they're traveling to events, they're going to these
Speaker 1: conventions and speaking, and I just want to ask that
Speaker 1: you protect these gentlemen and protect them, keep them healthy,
Speaker 1: keep them well to be able to distinguish this information.
Speaker 1: I pray for their books that more people go and
Speaker 1: search for these books. I know it's super important for us, Lord,
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for everything you do for us.
Speaker 1: Anybody that's listening right now, that's on the fence that
Speaker 1: doesn't know whether to believe in you or not, Lord,
Speaker 1: supernaturally assist them to.
Speaker 2: Get into your word and dig deep.
Speaker 1: And if you need to use me as a vessel,
Speaker 1: you need to use Ryan, you use Gary Wayne to
Speaker 1: do that. We appreciate that, and we know we're just
Speaker 1: bodies and we're here for you, Lord, so help us
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 2: We love you, We appreciate you in Jesus name. Amen.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for allowing us to do this.
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