Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for my intro. I'm used to having
Speaker 2: now with me on Saturday because i have my own show,
Speaker 2: The Morgan Show, ten to midnight every Saturday here on WBZ.
Speaker 2: But I'm here filling in for Dan. I filled in
Speaker 2: last night, obviously, I'm filling in now and I'll be
Speaker 2: here tomorrow and Polka dot December dates. I have seven
Speaker 2: Dan Rays. I'll be filling in in December, primarily several
Speaker 2: days before Christmas, Christmas, and several days after Christmas. I'll
Speaker 2: give you this specific as we get closer. You heard
Speaker 2: the news. You heard the story about people at the
Speaker 2: Pine Street Inn. It is quite common this time of
Speaker 2: year to have people that are depressed, they're homeless, they
Speaker 2: don't get calls. I guarantee you I get at least
Speaker 2: a dozen calls today, and they made about a dozen
Speaker 2: more telling people in my world Happy Thanksgiving, and people
Speaker 2: in my world telling me the same thing. That isn't
Speaker 2: fair for so many people, that there's such a focus
Speaker 2: on connection a friend, Happy Thanksgiving. I've got a doctor
Speaker 2: here who deals with depression and issues related to depression,
Speaker 2: and she's here to help all of us know more
Speaker 2: about how to deal with people in our world who
Speaker 2: are depressed. Doctor round the good deal. Thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on BZ once again.
Speaker 3: Hello, so glad to be back Lorgan and Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
Speaker 3: I do think that, as you said, I mean, this
Speaker 3: time of year is very mixed back for some people.
Speaker 3: It does bring up a lot of issues. Depression, tiredness,
Speaker 3: stresses a lot of issues that people deal with in
Speaker 3: the holidays, and we can give them a little bit
Speaker 3: of ideas of what might make things a little bit better.
Speaker 3: By the way, one of the things you did which
Speaker 3: also helps people is when you call someone and wish
Speaker 3: them a happy Thanksgiving. Doing something for someone else actually
Speaker 3: makes your a day better, not just what it does
Speaker 3: for the other person. So that is a good thing
Speaker 3: to do. Let's say someone doesn't feel like they want
Speaker 3: to be home, they really don't want to deal with
Speaker 3: a lot of people, but even calling one person and
Speaker 3: wishing them a happy Thanksgiving will actually do something for you.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Yeah, I do that every year
Speaker 2: for every holiday. I do it for Mother's Day. Women
Speaker 2: that I know in my world who are moms I
Speaker 2: do that for Obviously, Smith's and Harnikuah. You know, I
Speaker 2: just feel that the simple four seconds of a phone
Speaker 2: call can mean something to somebody.
Speaker 3: And particularly at this time of years. Sometimes this time
Speaker 3: of year does bring up to people the loss losses
Speaker 3: they've experienced, what they don't have. And I what I
Speaker 3: want to say, I mean, you know, is that it's
Speaker 3: very it's very high sometimes in this time of year
Speaker 3: to have realistic expectations on ourselves. And so sometimes I
Speaker 3: just say, give yourself a break, you know, if you
Speaker 3: only can do want to do one thing out of five,
Speaker 3: it's okay, right, it's all right. I'm guessing it's okay,
Speaker 3: you know. You know, so I think that's a lot
Speaker 3: of it is what we think we should do. We
Speaker 3: have the primary thing everybody should think about. If we
Speaker 3: don't take care of ourselves, then we can't do anything
Speaker 3: for anybody.
Speaker 2: And I'm guessing one of the things that causes depression
Speaker 2: is not having enough money to celebrate the event, the
Speaker 2: event of the day, to buy enough food. There are
Speaker 2: some people who just couldn't buy enough food to have
Speaker 2: a family dinner for Thanksgiving. There are some people listening
Speaker 2: who will not be They've got a husband or a
Speaker 2: wife and children. That's three gifts. If you have two
Speaker 2: children and they don't have the extra money it takes
Speaker 2: to buy a nice gift, they can buy a gift,
Speaker 2: but they want to buy a nice gift. And you
Speaker 2: see the commercial.
Speaker 3: You know, I think you're right, and I think what.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of things I'd say. I think all
Speaker 3: of us remember this and know. In one of the
Speaker 3: courses I teach in development, I have a lot of adults,
Speaker 3: and one of the things I ask them always in
Speaker 3: this question is when you go through your life, they're
Speaker 3: all like over twenty five to like fifty five, sixty five,
Speaker 3: I say, tell me the gifts that really meant a
Speaker 3: lot to you, And almost all of them this is
Speaker 3: still people listening who don't have money. Almost all of
Speaker 3: them mentioned being with some person, not a physical gift, right,
Speaker 3: that was the gift. So what I want to point
Speaker 3: out to people is the thing that makes the most,
Speaker 3: what merely means the most to most people, is being
Speaker 3: with them, laughing with them, taking a walk with them,
Speaker 3: playing a mind.
Speaker 2: Game with them.
Speaker 3: You know, it could be anything simple, you know, you
Speaker 3: know sometimes you know it's just like I don't know today,
Speaker 3: I was with my own granddaughter and all we did
Speaker 3: was play Shoots and lives in between the getting ready
Speaker 3: to Thanksgiving. But the thing is, I just want to
Speaker 3: point out that it's simple things and people when they
Speaker 3: go and if I want them to think back in
Speaker 3: their life and think of the things that really meant
Speaker 3: something to them, because sometimes we get so caught up
Speaker 3: and we have to get the right gift and we
Speaker 3: have to get this, and we have to get that.
Speaker 3: When I asked them to remember something from their child
Speaker 3: to this was amazing to me because we always think
Speaker 3: when we have these kids seven nine times, they don't
Speaker 3: even have many memories before it can for one thing,
Speaker 3: and they definitely don't have to do with gifts. They
Speaker 3: don't have to do with gifts.
Speaker 2: Well, let's do an experiment right now. I want people
Speaker 2: to think about the question doctor Gooddale just put to you,
Speaker 2: call and talk about again. I'm going to break it
Speaker 2: into two. A gift you received as a child any
Speaker 2: age second, third, fourth grade, ninth, tenth, eleventh grade, just
Speaker 2: say a child, a gift that you received, and as well,
Speaker 2: a gift that you received as an adult.
Speaker 3: And what meant what really meant something to you?
Speaker 2: It packed a punch that you got that when you
Speaker 2: open the box or the package is like, oh, you
Speaker 2: shouldn't have you gasp, you lose a breath. Call me,
Speaker 2: call me tonight right now six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten
Speaker 2: thirty and share with thirty eight states. And that's the
Speaker 2: other thing. Sharing, sharing the news about that gift, whether
Speaker 2: it was a tennance bracelet or a ten cent candy
Speaker 2: necklace that your your four or five year old kid
Speaker 2: gave you share some of those momentous memories with doctor
Speaker 2: Ronda Goodell and myself.
Speaker 3: Yes, please here on WBZ.
Speaker 2: I'll let doctor Goodell talk more about depression. But let's
Speaker 2: see if we can get people who are brave enough
Speaker 2: to share here on night side time and temperature nine
Speaker 2: fourteen forty two degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Night Sike Studios on WBZ Newswaiting.
Speaker 2: I'm Morgan Morgan White Junior, filling in for Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: He's got tonight off, he had the last I think
Speaker 2: he said the whole week off. I'll be here tomorrow
Speaker 2: night and he should be returning on Monday, third of December.
Speaker 2: No second of December will be Monday. I've got doctor
Speaker 2: ron a good deal here. And a few minutes ago
Speaker 2: she and I put a question to the audience. Can
Speaker 2: you remember a gift that was given to you while
Speaker 2: you were a kid? I'll target it second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh,
Speaker 2: eighth grade, somewhere in there, and as an adult, a
Speaker 2: gift that really meant something to you. It could have
Speaker 2: been from a parent, a loved one, a school teacher.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And Chris from Winthrop is the first
Speaker 2: to call in. Hello Chris, Hello, Chra, Hi, how are
Speaker 2: you happy? Thanks? Heving you?
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I loved the program, and so yeah, I guess I'll
Speaker 4: just talk about, you know, a couple of my favorite
Speaker 4: gifts growing up one and uh yeah for sure and
Speaker 4: and uh oh for me, it was a big family,
Speaker 4: two brothers and two sisters, and so Christmases for us
Speaker 4: were well, they were amazing. You know, I have wonderful parents.
Speaker 4: And certainly I remember one of my favorite gifts was
Speaker 4: a bicycle, I remember correctly. Yeah, it was like a
Speaker 4: quick silver bikeycle. Yeah, you know, and and that was
Speaker 4: just you know, one of my favorite memories growing up.
Speaker 4: For sure is getting that bicycle for Christmas were you
Speaker 4: looking forward to for a long time?
Speaker 3: Was a surprise? How did that happen?
Speaker 5: I would say.
Speaker 4: Yes, because you know, a lot of the other neighbor
Speaker 4: viewed kids, you know, had bikes new by and it
Speaker 4: was just something that I wasn't sure if I would
Speaker 4: be able to get it, you know, because my parents,
Speaker 4: my dad made a good living, but you know, we
Speaker 4: weren't wealthy by any stretch, and you know, having the
Speaker 4: siblings that we had, but my parents always found a
Speaker 4: way to provide us with great Christmases and birthdays and
Speaker 4: things like that, so it was it was amazing. I
Speaker 4: just remember, what.
Speaker 3: Are some of the memories you have of the what
Speaker 3: was great about them these holidays? What was what was
Speaker 3: the things you remember?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest things I remember is
Speaker 4: my brother John and I like used to kind of
Speaker 4: crawl down the hallway to try and seek it out
Speaker 4: gifts that very literally in the morning, and it would creak,
Speaker 4: and my parents she'd be like, get back to bed,
Speaker 4: week to ship me up all night. My mom rathroom presidents,
Speaker 4: and she would hear us trying to creep down the
Speaker 4: hallway and and being excited as kids and never wanted
Speaker 4: to go to sleep because you know, it was right around.
Speaker 4: We still believed in Santa and so and then uh,
Speaker 4: you know, they used to separate the gifts on the coach,
Speaker 4: like I would be on the left side, my brother
Speaker 4: would be on the right side, and it's just the
Speaker 4: father will be on the chair and it would be
Speaker 4: like just an amazing morning of the presents that were
Speaker 4: wrapped and unwrapped. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: It sounds like the presence were great in the sharing
Speaker 3: of it and the anticipation and all of it.
Speaker 4: That's so true. Absolutely, yep, yep. We you know, lived
Speaker 4: in the same place for twenty five years and that
Speaker 4: was really special for us to to you know, always
Speaker 4: be in the same home as kids and not having
Speaker 4: to really move around and growing up with all urniahblehood
Speaker 4: friends and that meant a lot for me. That'smorrowing up
Speaker 4: for sure, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Chris. The other part, christ the other part of
Speaker 2: the question was as an adult, is there a gift
Speaker 2: you can look back upon and say that was a
Speaker 2: wow gift?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely. I was probably I was maybe thirty years old,
Speaker 4: and I believe it was a birthday present. My mother
Speaker 4: had got me a bosewave radio with a six CD
Speaker 4: changer and that was the I still have it actually
Speaker 4: to this day, twenty deep plus years later. It still
Speaker 4: works great. And I couldn't believe the present I knew
Speaker 4: I was. It was expensive back then to get a
Speaker 4: boswave radio, you know, with the four speakers and the
Speaker 4: sixth dis CD changer. Because I've always loved music growing
Speaker 4: up a lot of concerts, and that was an amazing present,
Speaker 4: and you know, it was such a special memory for sure.
Speaker 3: That's great, especially that you got it for me mom.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 2: Chris.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you so much. I appreciate it, and.
Speaker 2: I want this holiday season for you to be the
Speaker 2: best you've ever had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please have a great holiday. Oh.
Speaker 4: I certainly will appreciate it. Going to California in a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks and here you go, be back in time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and my daughter and my grandkids and my family. So
Speaker 4: I appreciate you all too, and have a great holiday season.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Chris.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your call.
Speaker 2: And doctor, I've got an answer for each.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was raised by my mother and grandmother, and we
Speaker 2: were not rich by any stretch of the imagination to
Speaker 2: steal Chris's quote. But we weren't poor, and the stores
Speaker 2: gave away stamps, the grocery stores and some other stores
Speaker 2: SNH Green Stamps, plaid stamps, et cetera. So we always saved.
Speaker 2: And that's how I got my bike. I was in
Speaker 2: the side and the bike came from sn H Green Stamps,
Speaker 2: and they had a redemption store in Cambridge. I went
Speaker 2: with them. Now you think they're going to bring out
Speaker 2: a bike for you, they brought brought out a huge
Speaker 2: box that barely fit, barely fit in the car, and
Speaker 2: we had to take it someplace to be assembled. They said,
Speaker 2: they suggested the place to take it, and they said
Speaker 2: it might cost you a couple of bucks, which it did.
Speaker 2: But I had this brand new Murray brand name Mike
Speaker 2: Schwinn Red bicycle, and all my friends had bikes, and
Speaker 2: I would stay at my best friend's house until around
Speaker 2: five point thirty when my mother would get off work
Speaker 2: and pick me up. So they all rode bikes, and
Speaker 2: there was an extra bike that didn't have brakes that
Speaker 2: I was allowed to ride around on. Now no breaks,
Speaker 2: so I couldn't go fast, and it was not the
Speaker 2: best bike in the world, So now here I am
Speaker 2: and I could keep my bike at Winston's house. That
Speaker 2: was my friend's name, and they are about three or
Speaker 2: four or five of us, and we would ride all
Speaker 2: over the South End, up and down Saint Ptol's Street,
Speaker 2: down mass around the Christian Science Complex. And that is probably,
Speaker 2: as a kid, the best gift I ever got.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And as an adult, I was married on Saturday, it
Speaker 2: was Valentine's Day. I'm watching sitting on the floor in
Speaker 2: my bedroom watching college basketball, and I hear my wife
Speaker 2: come in and I heard a noise that didn't make
Speaker 2: any sense to me. It's like clicking down the hallway.
Speaker 2: There's a about eight nine feet of a hallway from
Speaker 2: the front door to the bedroom. And in came this puppy,
Speaker 2: a German shepherd puppy, a ball of fur, and he
Speaker 2: came right up to me and started to nustle me
Speaker 2: and jump on me. And I named him hack hjck,
Speaker 2: which is a basketball term for somebody who fowls a lot.
Speaker 2: And I used to have that nickname playing basketball. And
Speaker 2: she said, you know, I didn't know if I should
Speaker 2: get him or his sister, And I said, well, why
Speaker 2: didn't you get them both? She said, you can't handle both.
Speaker 2: I said, I'll buy a book on training, which I did.
Speaker 2: She went back to where she got Hack and brought
Speaker 2: back his sister, Honey. And that's the best gift as
Speaker 2: an adult. I ever got Hack and Honey, and they
Speaker 2: were my babies, and I trained them. I bought a
Speaker 2: book on training German shepherds and a videotape on how
Speaker 2: to train German shepherds. I trained them both on verbal
Speaker 2: commands and hand commands, and they were well behaved dogs.
Speaker 2: We lived in the city and I could walk with
Speaker 2: them without fear of them being destroyed by people, of
Speaker 2: pigeons or squirrels. And they were my children. So there,
Speaker 2: I've answered your question.
Speaker 3: You know what, I think it's great, and I think
Speaker 3: you know it's listening to you the association of who
Speaker 3: gave it to you and what you did with it,
Speaker 3: and how long it is, how the type of meaning
Speaker 3: it adds to you long before that long long more
Speaker 3: than that one day. Just like the bicycle for that kid,
Speaker 3: it gave them a lot of experiences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you brought me back, But I'm on the
Speaker 2: radio and I got to focus, like for an example,
Speaker 2: in about a minute after take a break. So when
Speaker 2: we come back and want you to focus on giving
Speaker 2: people clues. So heads up, how we can recognize that
Speaker 2: our friend, our family member may be in depression denial
Speaker 2: because a lot of people, How are you doing today? Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm fine, don't worry about me. That's a standard answer.
Speaker 2: That's a deflecting answer. How do we dig under that deflection?
Speaker 3: Okay, we can talk about that. Yeah, right, definitely, And.
Speaker 2: If anybody wants to call in, you want to call
Speaker 2: in and share memory, but a gift you received or
Speaker 2: something that's.
Speaker 3: Definite, even telling us how you yourself have dealt with
Speaker 3: if you've had depression, So how you've dealt with the holidays?
Speaker 3: Please share?
Speaker 2: Six one, seven, five, four, ten thirty eight eight eight, nine, two, nine,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. I am Morgan. My guest is doctor doctor
Speaker 2: Rhonda Gooddal, and she's here to help. I've used sir
Speaker 2: in many circumstances, just to help ease our minds. Time
Speaker 2: and temperature on night Side nine thirty forty two degrees.
Speaker 1: It's night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Welcome back, I am speaking. Well, let me back up
Speaker 2: a second. Let me tell you who I am. Some
Speaker 2: of you are used to hearing Dan Ray in this
Speaker 2: time slot. He's on vacation this week. My name is
Speaker 2: Morgan Morgan White Junior. I have been filling in for
Speaker 2: the past day and a half yesterday today, and I'll
Speaker 2: be here tomorrow filling in for Dan Ray on night side.
Speaker 2: My guest doctor Ronda good Dale. She's here and I
Speaker 2: always bring around when there are subjects that a licensed
Speaker 2: psychologist can help my listeners handle whatever circumstance. And the
Speaker 2: holidays bear some bitter fruit. A lot of people get
Speaker 2: depressed for variety of reasons, and that's why I have
Speaker 2: the doctor here and I've got a call. Let's see
Speaker 2: what Joe in Belmont wants to say. So Joe, welcome
Speaker 2: upon you.
Speaker 5: Ye Hi, Hi Morgan, and Hi doctor Ronda. I'd like
Speaker 5: to offer two cures that helped me with being down
Speaker 5: and depressed. Okay. For first, You're got to get yourself
Speaker 5: out of the house. And what I do is I
Speaker 5: go to a Burger King, a McDonald's or a Wendy's
Speaker 5: or a Duncan Donuts or any coffee shop in the
Speaker 5: center or town, and I have conversations with people. Some
Speaker 5: people will ignore you but that's the price you have
Speaker 5: to pay. You know, they don't want to talk, but
Speaker 5: that'll help you in depression. And a lot of times
Speaker 5: I when I walk around the a reservoir in my neighborhood,
Speaker 5: I say hi to people. And would you believe that
Speaker 5: a lot of people thank me for saying hi to them?
Speaker 5: That's how bad off they are.
Speaker 2: I believe that. I believe that, as.
Speaker 3: I said earlier, just a little greeting to someone can
Speaker 3: mean a tremendous difference of people just acknowledging you're here.
Speaker 5: Yes, So what do you think of my going to
Speaker 5: coffee shops and stuff like that to fight depression?
Speaker 3: Great? And it helps the house.
Speaker 5: I forced myself to get out. You can't be isolated.
Speaker 3: And it's so great what you're saying here, because I mean,
Speaker 3: it shows people listening that it's small things they're getting out,
Speaker 3: saying hello to this own person. They can change things.
Speaker 3: And it changes in two things that you're doing something
Speaker 3: to take care of yourself, you're walking, you're getting out,
Speaker 3: and the other thing, you're doing something for someone else
Speaker 3: and making their day better.
Speaker 5: Happy Thanksgiving guys, Happy Thanksgiving to you, and happy holiday.
Speaker 2: Take care. Write back at ya, thank you. All right,
Speaker 2: So doctor, what that pair of suggestions about just greeting.
Speaker 3: People don't have a very good idea.
Speaker 2: Intimidate people, because some people are intimidated if a stranger
Speaker 2: speaks to them. But just a simple hello, greeting and
Speaker 2: getting out the house, that's part of it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yep. I mean you said a couple I want
Speaker 3: to say a couple of things. I mean in one
Speaker 3: of the things he's saying, which is really too it
Speaker 3: can be very small things that can make us feel better.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be huge things. It can be
Speaker 3: looking at a window of decorations, it can be just
Speaker 3: calling a friend, I mean, and the major thing in
Speaker 3: the holidays, because people get so overwhelmed with the gifts
Speaker 3: and the work, just do a little do you know,
Speaker 3: do one thing. It doesn't have to be a lot
Speaker 3: of things. One thing, because you know, it's like with anybody,
Speaker 3: like they need to clean the house, they say, oh
Speaker 3: it's overwhelming. Do one thing. Say I'm going to spend
Speaker 3: five minutes and give away one thing. Do one thing.
Speaker 3: I'm going to take five minutes and call someone and
Speaker 3: then I'm going to relax. So it's one little thing
Speaker 3: at a time. It's not like overwhelming stuff and people
Speaker 3: should you know, whether it's a walk going out and
Speaker 3: just being happy for that moment you're alive that you're
Speaker 3: able to be able to walk. I think those you
Speaker 3: know are very important. The other thing that you said,
Speaker 3: which I think is important for people to know. We
Speaker 3: said before the break. If you see people all of
Speaker 3: a sudden that you know well of losing interest in things,
Speaker 3: and they have seen to be persistently sad or they're
Speaker 3: not they're reporting they don't sleep well, and they don't
Speaker 3: seem to be eating much, and they have a lack
Speaker 3: of concentration, it says they may be in a depression.
Speaker 3: They may be in a depression, and you know, you
Speaker 3: want them to basically make sure that those individuals are
Speaker 3: getting some help, you know, because and one of the
Speaker 3: things that I always say to people, the things that
Speaker 3: I was saying, you break lage tasks into small set
Speaker 3: realistic goals to yourself. Try to be with other people,
Speaker 3: just like you were saying, at least for a little
Speaker 3: maybe confide in one person, right, not a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Do you think of anything that makes you feel better,
Speaker 3: whatever that is, do it for five minutes. I don't
Speaker 3: care if it's taking a shower. You know, find something
Speaker 3: that makes you feel better. And by the way, exercise
Speaker 3: does tend to make people. Actually, I know a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't do that. The regular exercise, whether it's
Speaker 3: just walking, really makes a difference in people's lives. And
Speaker 3: the last thing I want to say, don't think that
Speaker 3: your move's going to get better right away. I'm going
Speaker 3: to feel great. It's a slow process. It's a slow process.
Speaker 2: But when you look back, Let's say you began taking
Speaker 2: walks the third week of October. Here we are the
Speaker 2: last week of November. When you look back, you'll see
Speaker 2: how well your body responded to that consistent exercise of
Speaker 2: walking exactly in the middle of doing it, you necessarily
Speaker 2: won't recognize.
Speaker 3: That right, and it's very gradual begin to feel better.
Speaker 3: But you know, I also think, I mean, there's also
Speaker 3: something called the gratitude thing, thinking of one thing. You're
Speaker 3: grateful for one thing, even no matter how many bad
Speaker 3: things are happening here, what's one thing I'm grateful for?
Speaker 3: I always ask people, give me one thing that makes
Speaker 3: you feel good or that you're grateful for.
Speaker 2: I'm going to turn this around on you doctor Gooddale,
Speaker 2: what's one day you are grateful for?
Speaker 3: Oh, Like, for me, I am so grateful that I
Speaker 3: wake up every day and then I can have another day.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I think very early on, when I
Speaker 3: was about eight years old, I always say people I
Speaker 3: had a uncle I was very close to and I
Speaker 3: lost very suddenly. Yes, and I thought, and even though
Speaker 3: I was only eight, I still remember thinking, it's really
Speaker 3: important to do what I want to do with those
Speaker 3: persons because you never know what the next day is
Speaker 3: going to be, whether you're going to be here or
Speaker 3: they're going to be there. Right, So I think I'm
Speaker 3: very grateful every day that I can do something. You know,
Speaker 3: I can shear something, I can do one thing, I
Speaker 3: can see the sun. I'm just very grateful. I'd say
Speaker 3: that's what really for me is a very persistent thing,
Speaker 3: and it keeps me optimistic no matter what's going on.
Speaker 3: I don't mean that I don't get upset about things
Speaker 3: or anything else like everybody else, but I do find
Speaker 3: that when people ask me why I am so optimistic,
Speaker 3: it's because I do feel that way. I really have
Speaker 3: a sense of gratitude about the fact that I'm here and.
Speaker 2: I'm going to answer the question, and it's a very
Speaker 2: simple response. On my part, I am grateful that I
Speaker 2: have the mind and memory that I've been blessed with.
Speaker 2: I can remember the most finite detail, you know, Pickier
Speaker 2: say to me eight years old, ten years old, fifteen
Speaker 2: years old, and I can remember as if it's written
Speaker 2: down on a piece of paper in front of me.
Speaker 2: Issues wow, that were pertinent to me at that specific time,
Speaker 2: And I am so thankful for it. The ability to
Speaker 2: recount circumstances, whether they were huge circumstances or the first
Speaker 2: time that I went to the Music Hall theater just
Speaker 2: to pick something weird. It was a Christmas and I
Speaker 2: saw Disney's Sword in the Stone and my grandmother took
Speaker 2: me and that was the first time I stepped foot
Speaker 2: in that theater. And I've been in that theater many
Speaker 2: a time since. And that's just like a rolodex in
Speaker 2: my brain that I can just flip my fingers and
Speaker 2: stop on ABCDEFG, whatever, and tell you about that specific
Speaker 2: moment in my life. Now. A lot of people can't
Speaker 2: do that. Thankful I can.
Speaker 3: And it's wonderful about guys. It makes you remember things
Speaker 3: that other people forget.
Speaker 2: Oh, I remember the weirdest things. And for a while
Speaker 2: you base it on school, because it's one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty days that you spent in a regular environment first grade,
Speaker 2: second grade, third grade, fourth grade, fifth grade, the teachers
Speaker 2: you had, where you sat, what subjects did you respond
Speaker 2: strongly to or weekly to? And I'm able to put
Speaker 2: my finger on the specifics of that because I haven't
Speaker 2: destroyed a lot of my brain cells like friends and
Speaker 2: colleagues have with alcohol and drugs and whatever have you,
Speaker 2: and whatever power I'm supposed to have at my a,
Speaker 2: I do and I haven't done anything to diminish my
Speaker 2: ability to recall. So that's what I'm thankful for.
Speaker 3: That's great. And I know and I know in these holidays,
Speaker 3: you know, when things come in, people do forget things
Speaker 3: like that, like something like that that you have that
Speaker 3: you can remember that you still have your mind, they
Speaker 3: have your memory. I mean, whow. I mean a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't have that. So yes, that's and I
Speaker 3: think a lot of times we tend to think of
Speaker 3: what we don't have rather than what we have and
Speaker 3: what we actually have.
Speaker 2: I remember our first show you and I and I'll
Speaker 2: ask you do you remember the first time I brought
Speaker 2: you on.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, after the very sad situation with the marathon.
Speaker 2: Yes, and very thank you for remembering that we did
Speaker 2: that together. We did, and we spoke to thirty eight states.
Speaker 2: And I think my focus was to talk to kids. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We were trying to tell parents, parents and kids to
Speaker 3: tell how do they deal with the kids? They're children
Speaker 3: at home?
Speaker 2: And that was the first show you and I did together. Yes,
Speaker 2: And you and I both recall it, and I think
Speaker 2: that's important. Let me take a breaking to say.
Speaker 3: No, I was going to say that that was the
Speaker 3: reason we remember. It's like such an important thing in
Speaker 3: remembering how much that touched people's lives, and they and
Speaker 3: I remember that radio station because we had a lot
Speaker 3: of calls that night and remembering hopefully being able to
Speaker 3: help people a little right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in those days, we were doing it from the
Speaker 2: station on Soldia sild Row.
Speaker 3: Yes, we were.
Speaker 2: I miss I missed those days. I missed broadcasting from
Speaker 2: that site. Oh well, let me take a break if
Speaker 2: you want to call in. I only have roughly ten
Speaker 2: twelve minutes left with doctor Ronda Gooddale, and when we
Speaker 2: come back, I'll have her give her backstory, so you
Speaker 2: know how she got to be doctor run the Gooddale
Speaker 2: here on night Side six ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine,
Speaker 2: ten thirty call in, come on time and temperature nine
Speaker 2: forty five forty two degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We are almost out of time. I've got roughly eight
Speaker 2: more minutes left with doctor Randa Gooddale, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: go to Canada first and then the Brookline masks. So
Speaker 2: Darryl good evening.
Speaker 7: Good evening, doctor Goodell, and uh good evening. You guys
Speaker 7: have hit a certain topic that is so cool even
Speaker 7: today when you go back to memories, you think about
Speaker 7: what you were talking about and you can bring back
Speaker 7: that memory. And you were talking about animals and whatnot.
Speaker 7: And I was lucky to have a canine whom I
Speaker 7: named d Day with four white with four white socks.
Speaker 7: But he was born with a heart on the center finger.
Speaker 2: And what type of animal was the day dog? A
Speaker 2: cat wine runner dog.
Speaker 7: But you referenced even in conversation where you go out
Speaker 7: and actually your last caller mentioned about just having a
Speaker 7: conversation with somebody. Yes, you can do that in line,
Speaker 7: like even today at Costco because the lineup is so long.
Speaker 7: Then you can make a joke or whatnot, and you
Speaker 7: can actually make somebody smile. And there was a new
Speaker 7: family because we have new families coming in from other places.
Speaker 7: And walking by a couple of young lads in a
Speaker 7: shopping cart top part and you say, hey, little buddy,
Speaker 7: how you doing right? And they turn around with a
Speaker 7: big smile and say, hi, how are you? Yeah, And
Speaker 7: so it's the it's the whole thing about somebody like that.
Speaker 7: A young child even will remember that and may smile
Speaker 7: and it may cause somebody else's smile.
Speaker 3: Well, it's nice about that. It's like they remember it
Speaker 3: and you remember it.
Speaker 7: Oh, And it's the whole thing. It's about passing it on.
Speaker 7: And it's a great topic you guys are doing.
Speaker 2: If I see a parent with a child in a store,
Speaker 2: more often than not, they're holding a child's hand for
Speaker 2: obvious reasons. You don't want the child to run off
Speaker 2: and get lost in the crowd. And I smile, and
Speaker 2: I look at the adult and I say you were
Speaker 2: that size once, and they usually smile, and it's all
Speaker 2: it's all meant just to make the the person smile.
Speaker 2: And I do that with some regularity.
Speaker 7: Well even when Dan's on sometimes about sometimes you got
Speaker 7: long lineups and you can break up the monotony just
Speaker 7: by again making somebody smile.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Daryl.
Speaker 2: So you've come up with a home run response.
Speaker 3: That's great, Darryl. Thank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker 3: And it was wonderful what you did today. You made
Speaker 3: someone's life better.
Speaker 7: No, but every everybody can do it, and you guys
Speaker 7: do it every day by just conversation on the radio.
Speaker 2: Darryl, thank you very much. Take care you guys, take
Speaker 2: care of happy holiday. And this next caller is familiar
Speaker 2: with both of us. It's Bill Winneker in Brookline.
Speaker 6: Go Bill, Hi, Bill, you know Rondo Bowe and I
Speaker 6: love you because when we hear you on with borgon
Speaker 6: and when we see one person, your voice, in your.
Speaker 3: Eyes, just just being around you makes us come.
Speaker 6: We don't need any pills as long as we know you.
Speaker 2: And you know what, you can't love her because I
Speaker 2: love her more than the two of you put together.
Speaker 3: Well we'll have to have a battle over that one,
Speaker 3: all right, Kill, I just love I just have to
Speaker 3: say this. Having Bill on the phone listening to them
Speaker 3: and their music. It makes my life so much larger.
Speaker 3: I do want to say this. I mean, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I mean you guys. Yeah, what else can I say?
Speaker 3: I mean, you just contribute so much to everybody with
Speaker 3: your music. How much you love it.
Speaker 2: They will be on tomorrow night from nine to eleven
Speaker 2: tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll listening tomorrow. Okay, listen, Bronther.
Speaker 8: You do the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: So that's why we love you so much.
Speaker 8: We feel like you're one of us.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 8: Anyway, the time is running out, so I hope you
Speaker 8: both had a great Thanksgiving and.
Speaker 2: Help you.
Speaker 3: We will definitely be calling to see you. Dan and
Speaker 3: I will come and see you very soon.
Speaker 8: Oh we'll look forward to that. We love it when
Speaker 8: you come. And you better bring Morgan too.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, she's promised to come see my show, which
Speaker 2: she's never done.
Speaker 3: I am definitely doing it. I am planning to come
Speaker 3: to see your show.
Speaker 7: She doesn't do that.
Speaker 2: We're going to bring her to see you, all right,
Speaker 2: nice surprise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what's on your mind? You called us?
Speaker 3: No, my mind was to say how.
Speaker 8: Much we appreciate uh, the doctor. She takes care of
Speaker 8: us by soothing us.
Speaker 2: In a couple of minutes, I'll give you two minutes
Speaker 2: your backstory, your history.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'll give a little bit of my back
Speaker 3: door because it's kind of an interesting backstory because I
Speaker 3: have a very mixed thing myself. I mean, I definitely
Speaker 3: am an academic, but I started off. During my academics,
Speaker 3: I was also a dancer with the Boston Ballet, so
Speaker 3: I'm very much in tune with many aspects of people's
Speaker 3: personalities and the arts. I went on to study both
Speaker 3: teaching and students who have emotional behavior problems. So I
Speaker 3: ended up getting many degrees in teaching as well as
Speaker 3: psychology and working and helping children and families in terms
Speaker 3: of issues related to psychology. And I ended up going
Speaker 3: to several schools North Eastern BC and many schools. So
Speaker 3: it's basically my back and I think for me, you know,
Speaker 3: as I said, I think anything anything, and this is
Speaker 3: true for all of you. It doesn't take a lot
Speaker 3: of degrees because I think, you know, even though I
Speaker 3: certainly have many of them now, I think that basically
Speaker 3: the way I felt even long before I had a degree,
Speaker 3: with the things that we talked about. It's all these
Speaker 3: simple things that you can do to make life a
Speaker 3: little bit better. And I just want to say, because
Speaker 3: I know we didn't talk a lot about it, but
Speaker 3: some of you are out there trying to figure out
Speaker 3: how you're going to deal with the holidays. Just do
Speaker 3: a thing, make a list and say what's important, what's
Speaker 3: just throw away? All just like one that you can do,
Speaker 3: and you're going to be okay. And you're going to
Speaker 3: be okay, and you're going to make it through. You're
Speaker 3: going to make it through.
Speaker 2: True words and never spoken Bill. I look forward to
Speaker 2: speaking with you and your brother tomorrow nine do lesson
Speaker 2: here on night side. Doctor Goodal. You know I love
Speaker 2: it when you're on. You you help people. Your kind
Speaker 2: words and approach helps people. And I just found out
Speaker 2: something I didn't know about you. I didn't know you
Speaker 2: were a part of the Boston LA for a while.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, one of my my youth. Thank you for
Speaker 3: coming on all right, hope.
Speaker 2: To continue to have a great holiday season.
Speaker 3: You take copy holidays, everybody, Okay, take you.
Speaker 2: Next hour, Ed Robertson will be here talking about classic
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Speaker 2: eight forty two degrees