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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, comrades and friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back with another episode of History Impossible. This one

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<v Speaker 1>another special and the first installment in something that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have a name for yet. Like I said

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<v Speaker 1>in the notes for this episode, the Grad School Files

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds like a bad Netflix show or something I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have a name yet. But this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first installment of my attempt at adapting my academic papers

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been writing into at least somewhat entertaining podcast form.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into that, I want to give a

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<v Speaker 1>quick shout out to my executive producer level supporters over

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon, that is John Andre Sather and Mike Maylebin.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are as always awesome and do so much

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<v Speaker 1>As well as just promoting the show as best you

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<v Speaker 1>can to people who might be interested, especially when the

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<v Speaker 1>episodes have to do with events that are related to

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<v Speaker 1>current events. Really that seems to capture a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks imagination. So please spread the word about History Impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on Reddit. People seem to be always asking for

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<v Speaker 1>of those subreddits out there. But yes, so this was

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<v Speaker 1>a quick one in a lot of ways, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's longer I think than a lot of average podcast

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<v Speaker 1>episodes out there. But it's a quick one compared to

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<v Speaker 1>what I usually get into with this show. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be looking at the Arab Revolt

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty six to nineteen thirty nine. As I

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<v Speaker 1>did in the paper that this is based on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff might seem familiar because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it is from material that I used in previous episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of History Impossible and expands upon it. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of really good, interesting details in there. Though I think

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<v Speaker 1>I gave a pretty decent overview of the revolt and

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<v Speaker 1>why it was so important to a kind of nebulous concept,

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<v Speaker 1>but one that I find very interesting that I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it a little bit in one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another, but never in this straightforward theoretical way. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess about collective identity and historical memory and its role

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<v Speaker 1>in forming those identities, and I think there's really no

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<v Speaker 1>better example in modern history, at least than that of

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<v Speaker 1>the Israeli Palestinian conflict, as well as the role of

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<v Speaker 1>the British Empire in that. There's other examples, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do mention one or two in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one, I think is the one that is

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<v Speaker 1>most recognizable to people. So it's in some ways the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to discuss the subject of historical memory and

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<v Speaker 1>collective identities. So with all of that said, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into some impossible history. Well, let me tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>you would have seen and heard. If we're not being

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant listening, if you're at lunch, or if you have

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<v Speaker 1>no appetite, now it is a good time to switch

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<v Speaker 1>off the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>An ancestor of mine main chaine that if you eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, arimation musten banjiant to

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<v Speaker 2>that you general, one who knows that I'm going needs

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<v Speaker 2>by a thousand year. I wish I could say tonight

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<v Speaker 2>that a lasting peace is inside. I don't see the

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<v Speaker 2>amounting dream. I seeing a laughing night. Moore, I a flock.

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<v Speaker 1>If we care were issued to kill, if we care

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<v Speaker 1>for agued to kill.

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<v Speaker 2>Some say the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Will end empire.

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<v Speaker 2>Some say an I, from what I've tasted of desire,

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<v Speaker 2>I hold of those with favre. But if it had

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<v Speaker 2>to perish twice, I think I know him of of

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<v Speaker 2>hate to say that the destruction ice is also great,

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<v Speaker 2>and look sufficed.

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<v Speaker 1>This. You are now in the flush of victory, and

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<v Speaker 1>we remain under the spirit of being defeated, in downtrodden.

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<v Speaker 1>So both of us are under abnormal conditions. I consider

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<v Speaker 1>you just as abnormal as we are. You were not

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<v Speaker 1>considering the future. You were only considering the present, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are not considering the distant future, only our presence suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>Musa Alami, the Jews, Christians and Muslims are like three bewildered,

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<v Speaker 1>disconsolate children at a party. We don't want ja, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want honey, we don't want cake, we want jelly,

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<v Speaker 1>Alas there is no jelly. Edward Keith Roach, the gathering

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<v Speaker 1>at the Beayrout Department in the spring of nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine was full of high spirits. The members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab Higher Committee were celebrating. After three years of boycotts, protests,

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<v Speaker 1>fighting and suffering, they had extracted the greatest victory in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of their nationalist movement, concessions from the British Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>This victory was not just over their imperial oppressors, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a setback for their nationalist rivals, the Zionists, who

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<v Speaker 1>up until this moment had seemed to have the world

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<v Speaker 1>on their side. But with the release of the document

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<v Speaker 1>that came to be known as the McDonald White Paper,

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<v Speaker 1>all that had changed Jewish immigration to Palestine not only

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<v Speaker 1>would cease, but it and all immigration would be placed

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<v Speaker 1>under the jurisdiction of Arab leadership over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>a few years, with true Palestinian statehood promised in writing

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<v Speaker 1>to occur after that. However, one man was not smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the founder and leader of the Committee, the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Jaja min Al Husseini, was firmly

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to the proposal, despite it being a victory for

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<v Speaker 1>his cause by most metrics imaginable dissenting from the near

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<v Speaker 1>consensus on the White Paper's qualities. This disagreement became a

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<v Speaker 1>feature of the still gestating Arab national identity that had

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<v Speaker 1>placed Palestine and its nationhood at its center. A few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks later, one of the most prominent Zionists in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>High Invitesmen, gave an address to the English Zionist Federation.

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<v Speaker 1>In this address, Wetzmen responded to the White Paper by

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<v Speaker 1>calling it quote the death sentence of the Jewish National

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<v Speaker 1>Home unquote. Continuing, Wetzmen pledged not to quote conclude on

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<v Speaker 1>a sad note unquote, and that quote, we will carry

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<v Speaker 1>on our work. It is an old tradition of ours,

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<v Speaker 1>and no amount of obstacles will deter us from our purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>And he concluded by claiming, quote, I do not believe

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<v Speaker 1>that very soon there will be a revulsion of feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>and that these temporary necessities will disappear unquote, and that quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Long before the Balfour Declaration, God had decreed that our

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<v Speaker 1>destiny is bound up with Palestine. And against this decree

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<v Speaker 1>all decrees of humans, however mighty, they may appear to themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time are as not they will blow

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<v Speaker 1>away like chaff before the wind. The British Empire, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>had been attempting to thread the needle of the Palestinian

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<v Speaker 1>Mandate for over two decades by this point, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>strike a balance between the competing nationalist interests of the

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<v Speaker 1>Arabs and the Zionists, all while coping with the rise

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<v Speaker 1>of an aggressive Nazi Germany in Europe. They were also

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<v Speaker 1>coming to terms with their once globe spanning empire going

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<v Speaker 1>into decline, something on which they were intent to see

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<v Speaker 1>done with their dignity as a nation intact. Two years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty seven, a document reporting the results of

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<v Speaker 1>what was known as the Peo Commission made this clear,

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<v Speaker 1>pledging that quote the British people will not flinch from

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<v Speaker 1>the task of continuing to govern Palestine under the Mandate

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<v Speaker 1>if they are in honor bound to do so unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing colonial holdings as progressing towards self government, a frequently

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<v Speaker 1>stated goal in the Holy Land, was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>growing sense and what it would turn out to be

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<v Speaker 1>post hawk justification that the quote demise of the Empire

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<v Speaker 1>marked the fulfillment rather than the renunciation of Britain's imperial mission.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the historian A. J. Stockwell, there was also

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<v Speaker 1>a longstanding undercurrent of Christian Zionism, informing much of the

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<v Speaker 1>decision making that was in play. This was seen most

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<v Speaker 1>dramatically when British Army officer Orda Wingate stated, quote, there

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<v Speaker 1>is only one important book on the subject of Zionism,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible, and I have read it thoroughly unquote. This attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>while not wholly representative of the British imperial authorities in

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<v Speaker 1>the Palestinian Mandate, would still loom pretty large as a

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<v Speaker 1>motivating factor alongside their more geopolitical concerns. This confluence of

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<v Speaker 1>motives ultimately what led to the British Empire to attempt

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<v Speaker 1>their balancing act behind the scenes. Little did they know

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<v Speaker 1>that in their efforts to placate their Arab enemies and

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<v Speaker 1>cushion the fall of their alien empire, while some of

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<v Speaker 1>them also attempted to fulfill their own sense of mission

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<v Speaker 1>via their Christian Zionism, they had managed to make themselves

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<v Speaker 1>an enemy of everyone. The Arab revolt of nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six in nineteen thirty nine has done relatively little to

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<v Speaker 1>arouse the historical imagination, either among the populace or even

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<v Speaker 1>among historians studying the long running conflict in the Holy Land.

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<v Speaker 1>In both the Arabic speaking and English speaking worlds, it

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<v Speaker 1>has been overshadowed by other events in the conflict's history.

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<v Speaker 1>As writer, historian and friend of the podcast or In

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<v Speaker 1>Kessler explains, quote, no single general interest account has yet

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<v Speaker 1>been written of this formative but forgotten insurgency unquote, apart

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<v Speaker 1>from about three books written in English since the mid

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties, a single book written in Hebrew, and very

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<v Speaker 1>little work written in Arabic. This historiographic neglect is due

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<v Speaker 1>to many reasons, most of which go beyond the scope

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<v Speaker 1>of this special episode and the paper from which it's derived,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is usually overshadowed, it being the Arab revolt

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<v Speaker 1>by the official formation of the State of Israel in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty eight, known to Arab nationalists as the Nakba

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<v Speaker 1>or catastrophe, marking it as a foundational date in the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab nationalist historical memory. Quoting the Syrian academic Constantine Zurak,

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<v Speaker 1>historian Gilbert Ascar explains that the Nakba took on a

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<v Speaker 1>greater significance than other events because it was quote not

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<v Speaker 1>a mere setback or a simple transitory misfortune, but a

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophe in every sense of the word, a calamitous ordeal

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<v Speaker 1>of among the most difficult that the Arabs have undergone

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<v Speaker 1>in the course of a long history full of ordeals

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<v Speaker 1>and calamities. This appears to be a sufficient explanation for

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<v Speaker 1>how large the Nakba looms in the historical memory. However,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Mustapha Caaba, a deeper reason that the Arab

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<v Speaker 1>revolt has been quote completely overshadowed by the memory of

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<v Speaker 1>the Nagma unquote is because quote dealing with nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six to nineteen thirty nine requires more soul searching quote.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in part because the Arab volt's outcome came

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<v Speaker 1>to represent one of the greatest failures of Arab nationalism,

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<v Speaker 1>paving the way for the future Nakba, making it an

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<v Speaker 1>inglorious event in their history that their leadership brought upon themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>As Kaba explains, quote, it resulted in a self inflicted

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<v Speaker 1>wound that weakened Palestinian ability to cope with future challenges unquote. Similarly,

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<v Speaker 1>the Zionist would frequently invoke nineteen forty eight as a

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<v Speaker 1>historically definitional event in their history in defending his new

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<v Speaker 1>state's war with the Arab states and against accusations of

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<v Speaker 1>quote unwanted in transigence unquote. Chiam Weitzman would write in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty eight that quote for treat would be fatal quote,

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<v Speaker 1>and that quote independence is never given to a people.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be earned, and having been earned, it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be defended quote. Weitzmann, like many who echoed

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<v Speaker 1>him in the years and decades that followed, was mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>if he believed that the idea of Zionis statehood needing

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<v Speaker 1>to be earned as opposed to negotiated, was borne by

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<v Speaker 1>the struggles of nineteen forty eight. The Arab revolt of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six. In nineteen thirty nine was thus significant

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<v Speaker 1>for multiple reasons in the history of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Overtly,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a conflict between a semi unified front of

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<v Speaker 1>events of the Arab Revolt. The short answer is to

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<v Speaker 1>that opposed it. Historical memory and the formation of identity,

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<v Speaker 1>events that likely never happened in the first place. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>or less instantaneous. Whether or not this status is conferred

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<v Speaker 1>than the power that such memory possesses to change or

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<v Speaker 1>even create a new collective identity, i e. A community

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<v Speaker 1>based largely on imagined kinship through shared experiences. As Benedict

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<v Speaker 1>never know most of their fellow members meet them or

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<v Speaker 1>even hear of them. Yet in the minds of each

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<v Speaker 1>that this collective identity quote is imagined as a community because,

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<v Speaker 1>in each the nation is always conceived as a deep,

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<v Speaker 1>the historical memory, and this historical memory can form just

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of its occurrence and during the period

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<v Speaker 1>when it is still in living memory exert a powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>though not necessarily a determining influence on the meanings it

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<v Speaker 1>today's social collectivities, to use Cuba's words again, can be

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<v Speaker 1>seen through a variety of historical events, often violent ones,

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<v Speaker 1>that provide evidence of collective suffering. We've seen that in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of episodes of history impossible, particularly the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that concern Israel and Palestine, but also the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>concern places like Yugoslavia and its own constituent identities. And indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>of countless individuals unquote. However, even though violence often plays

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<v Speaker 1>a role in this process of identity formation, I mean again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is history. A lot of history is built on violence,

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<v Speaker 1>if not most of it, at least the history that

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<v Speaker 1>gets written about. But that's a whole other story. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though violence does play a part, though, like I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not always framed in a negative light. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the social memory is one of overcoming impossible odds to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve greatness or even quote unquote mirror survival. Good examples

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<v Speaker 1>of that include a lot of the histories of the Holocaust,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as those of anybody who survived the genocide.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the framing reflects a desire to justify investments of capital, time, effort,

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<v Speaker 1>or even lives. These different manifestations of historical memory, and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly others, can be seen in various examples across human history.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was saying, and this includes everything, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the American Civil War, which are examples given by Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Cubitt when he's talking about historical memory. However, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>among the most pointed examples of identity formation via historical memory,

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<v Speaker 1>and most relevant to this special episode that we're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>are those of the Arab nationalists, the Zionists, and the

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen thirty nine, all three factions developed and constructed

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<v Speaker 1>even recognized in the years leading up to the revols itself,

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<v Speaker 1>That the factions quote conflicting elements make their conflicting claims,

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<v Speaker 1>as alone, just and fair. While both the Arab nationalists

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<v Speaker 1>and the Zionists' relationships to Empire were those of opposition

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<v Speaker 1>in the interest of particular national self determination, the British

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<v Speaker 1>relationship to Empire was one of maintenance. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>waning days speak of the British Empire, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>to their imperial self concept, but broadly speaking, all three

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<v Speaker 1>factions relationships to Empire were determined by their own particular

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<v Speaker 1>connections to the land that would become Israel. These connections

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<v Speaker 1>were both internal and external, with the former manifesting and

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<v Speaker 1>and political in nature. These connections would be forged and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six to nineteen thirty nine. In the most generalized

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<v Speaker 1>framing possible, the Arab nationalist's historical memory would be one

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<v Speaker 1>part by the revolt's primary leaderships lethal obsession with Jews

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<v Speaker 1>as a people. The Zionist's historical memory would be one

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<v Speaker 1>of overcoming impossible odds in the face of existential destruction,

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<v Speaker 1>agitation and even violent revolt against colonial authority. This would

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<v Speaker 1>manifest in a desire to justify their imperial investments, which

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<v Speaker 1>thus their identity as one of peacekeeper, guide and the builder,

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<v Speaker 1>the shepherd maybe of new nations. This identity would be

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<v Speaker 1>Zionist beliefs held by many colonial authorities and British politicians

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<v Speaker 1>involved in colonial affairs. It is to this complex relationship

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<v Speaker 1>Arab Revolt the identity of imperial decline. Some aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>After the First World War ended. However, it began to

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<v Speaker 1>become much clearer almost a year before the Armistice that

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<v Speaker 1>five days after it was written, the British press released

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<v Speaker 1>what would become known as the Balfour Declaration, which guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>quote a national home for the Jewish people unquote, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the promise that the government would quote use

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<v Speaker 1>their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice

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<v Speaker 1>in Palestine. This pledge from the Declaration marks what is

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<v Speaker 1>Zionist relationship, but in truth, the relationship predated the Declaration

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<v Speaker 1>by many years. Many members of the British government were

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<v Speaker 1>already in support of the idea of a Jewish national home,

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<v Speaker 1>with Winston Churchill proclaiming in nineteen oh eight that quote

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<v Speaker 1>of true racial and political integrity would be a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>event in the history of the world. Lord Balfour himself

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<v Speaker 1>had also developed a Zionist identity in the years leading

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<v Speaker 1>to Churchill, he had actually become friends with one of

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<v Speaker 1>of a nineteen oh five law that restricted immigration primarily

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<v Speaker 1>of Jews from Eastern Europe. Weismann was a dinner guest

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<v Speaker 1>of Lord Balfour's in nineteen sixteen, and after considering a

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<v Speaker 1>am a Zionist. As described by the celebrated and for

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<v Speaker 1>Palestine Complete, the table had been set for the British

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<v Speaker 1>Zionist alliance. This was also part of a growing trend

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<v Speaker 1>nature of British identity at that point in history, as

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<v Speaker 1>tom Segev notes, quote Lord Balfour also considered Zionism as

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<v Speaker 1>an inherent part of his Christian faith unquote. This dual

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<v Speaker 1>identity of being both a Christian and a proponent of

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<v Speaker 1>a Jewish national home was both symbolic and representative of

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<v Speaker 1>many British statesmen and officials of the time, both coming

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<v Speaker 1>from a problematic quote belief in the mystical power of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews unquote end quote biblical romanticism. Also, according to

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<v Speaker 1>tom Segev, another example of this was Wyndham Deeds, the

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Secretary to the British High Commissioner of Mandatory Palestine,

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<v Speaker 1>who believed that it was his Christian duty to quote

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<v Speaker 1>assist in the return of the Jews to the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Land unquote, in order to quote hasten the second coming

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lord unquote, believing that the quote unwritten compact

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<v Speaker 1>between the British Empire and world Jewry would be part

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<v Speaker 1>of a common effort to bring about world peace. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>to use the words of tom Segev, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve this view that was so common in the British government,

436
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<v Speaker 1>a tool would be needed. That tool was one of Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to their Christian romanticism that probably sounds pretty

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<v Speaker 1>familiar to a lot of you listening, at least those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who are familiar with Christian Zionism, or as

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<v Speaker 1>we call it here in the United States, dispensationalism, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that if the Jews are not in Israel at

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<v Speaker 1>the second Coming of Christ, then Christ and therefore God

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<v Speaker 1>would be displeased, to say the least, the Jews need

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<v Speaker 1>to be in Israel, in other words, in order for

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<v Speaker 1>the faithful to ascend to Heaven at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the apocalypse. But in addition to that romanticism, to that

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<v Speaker 1>way of looking at things, the British saw and justified

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<v Speaker 1>their backing of what became very aggressive Jewish immigration into

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Land in imperial terms, playing the dual role

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<v Speaker 1>of Zionist and British official. The famed future First High

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner for Palestine, Herbert Samuel, would write a memorandum in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen advocating for a British imperial conquest of Palestine,

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<v Speaker 1>claiming that it quote would allow Britain once again to

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill its historic calling of bringing civilization to primitive lands.

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<v Speaker 1>To Samuel and others in the British government who had

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<v Speaker 1>the same mindset. Zionism was the goal, and imperialism was

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<v Speaker 1>the tool to achieve that goal. It is also clear

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<v Speaker 1>that this attitude was not exclusive to the Zionist project.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in act the norm of the time. As

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Segev explains, quote, the proposal to seize Palestine accorded

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<v Speaker 1>with the way people in London were thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time.

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<v Speaker 1>When they spoke about the dissillusion of the Ottoman Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a tendency to think of it as a

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<v Speaker 1>large cake. This country would get one slice, that country another.

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<v Speaker 1>The territory the Ottomans were about to lose was considered

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<v Speaker 1>booty to be shared out among the victors of the

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<v Speaker 1>First World War unquote. While circumstances would change over the

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<v Speaker 1>coming decades following the First World War, culminating in the

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<v Speaker 1>events created by the Arab Revolt of nineteen thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty nine, this imperialist perspective will continue to inform

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<v Speaker 1>British decision making, especially regarding their intentions with the Mandate's

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<v Speaker 1>Arab population that was already living there. In many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>the development of the British relationship with the Arabs of

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Land ran parallel with that of their relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with the Zionists. British interests in the region as a

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<v Speaker 1>whole long predated the First World War, thanks largely to

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<v Speaker 1>their battles with Napoleon in the early nineteenth century and

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<v Speaker 1>their later alliance with the Ottoman Empire and their occupation

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<v Speaker 1>of Egypt in eighteen eighty two. It was in this

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<v Speaker 1>interest that an attitude of what we would now call

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<v Speaker 1>Orientalism began to develop, and would later inform, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in part, their interactions with the Arabs of the Holy Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Historian Zachary Lachmann notes that this attitude can be seen

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<v Speaker 1>most prominently in the writings of the Earl of Cromer

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<v Speaker 1>Evel and Baring, who was quote widely regarded as a

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<v Speaker 1>leading authority on Egypt and the Orient in general, and

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<v Speaker 1>his views can be fairly taken as representative of much

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<v Speaker 1>of British elite and popular opinion, and who quote established

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<v Speaker 1>what he saw as the unbridgable gap between the logical

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<v Speaker 1>West and the illogical and picturesque East, between the European

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00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 1>mind and the Oriental mind unquote. This attitude pervaded both

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<v Speaker 1>British imperial policy in the Middle East, and in part

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<v Speaker 1>explains why British pledges toward their Arab allies in nineteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>in a series of documents that have colloquially come to

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<v Speaker 1>be known as the McMahon Correspondence, quote became an outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>bone of contention, quote which the Lebanese author and diplomat

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<v Speaker 1>George and Tonius also called quote the main piece of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence on which the Arabs accused Great Britain of having

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<v Speaker 1>broken faith with them unquote. These letters, which were between

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<v Speaker 1>British Indian Army officer Henry McMahon and the King of Hijaz,

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<v Speaker 1>Hussein Binali, contained promises of territory to be given to

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<v Speaker 1>the Arabs in exchange for their support of the British

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<v Speaker 1>against the Ottoman Empire during the First World War, because

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<v Speaker 1>at that point they were enemies. It is important to remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but this territory discussing the McMahon whoseying correspondence eventually went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Jews thanks to the later promise made by

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<v Speaker 1>the Balfour Declaration. This inconsistency, and that's what it was,

509
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<v Speaker 1>was informed by British orientalism, but it was also imperialist

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<v Speaker 1>hubris in what Tom Segev calls the British quote imperialistic

511
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<v Speaker 1>arrogance and a powerful sense of cultural superiority unquote. It

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<v Speaker 1>is actually understandable that one might believe that they took

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<v Speaker 1>the concerns of the Zionists more seriously than those of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arabs. The thing is this is only partly true,

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<v Speaker 1>As Segev also points out, quote, the British pretended, and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps some of them even believed that the establishment of

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<v Speaker 1>a national home for the Jews could be carried out

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<v Speaker 1>without hurting the Arabs unquote. It was this hubris, fueled

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<v Speaker 1>in part by their orientalist interpretations of the Arab quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote mind as being one of irrationality and in need

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<v Speaker 1>of tempering, that informed British counterinsurgency policy when the Arab

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<v Speaker 1>Revolt of nineteen thirty six to thirty nine actually kicked off.

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<v Speaker 1>In earnest. The British response to the outbreak of violence

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<v Speaker 1>during the Arab Revolt, which began with quote an attack

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<v Speaker 1>on April fifteenth, nineteen thirty six, on a convoy of

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<v Speaker 1>taxis on the Nablist to Tulkarm road, in which the

527
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 1>assailants murdered two Jewish passengers unquote, was swift and would

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<v Speaker 1>quickly become defined by its brutality. To quote from the

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<v Speaker 1>work of men Matthew Hughes in his paper The Banality

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<v Speaker 1>Brutality British Armed Forces and the Repression of the Arab

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<v Speaker 1>Revolts in Palestine. In practice and indeed in implicit principle,

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<v Speaker 1>British counterinsurgency was defined by policies of treating all Arabs

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<v Speaker 1>as equally complicit in the violence that broke out across

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Land during this period. This often came in

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<v Speaker 1>the form of collective punishment techniques, policies that often resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in the mass destruction of property and many deaths. We've

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<v Speaker 1>discussed this before in History Impossible. Some of you listening

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<v Speaker 1>might remember. These were policies very similar to the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that the Nazis made use of in Yugoslavia. As the

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<v Speaker 1>aforementioned Matthew Hughes also explains quote, during army searches, soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>would surround a village. The men and women then divided off,

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<v Speaker 1>held apart from the houses, often in wired cages, while

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers searched and often destroyed everything, burnt grain and poured

544
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<v Speaker 1>olive oil over household food and effects, with the largest

545
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<v Speaker 1>destruction occurring during an operation on June sixteenth, nineteen thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>in which up to two hundred and forty buildings were destroyed.

547
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<v Speaker 1>These brutal policies also resulted in violence against the villagers themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was hinting at a moment ago, and this

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<v Speaker 1>included sexual violence as well as forms of torture against

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<v Speaker 1>captured combatants. All of this was done to break the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of the rebels in the revolt, who were fighting

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<v Speaker 1>against the British. However, the cost of doing this was

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately too high for the British Empire, and by nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, the possibility of negotiating a settlement with the

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<v Speaker 1>rebels entered the picture. Because the central issue was Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>immigration into the Mandate. The Peo Commission of nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six and later the MacDonald White Paper of nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine both centered on this topic. The Pew Commission contained

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<v Speaker 1>the first official suggestion of what we would now call

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<v Speaker 1>a two state solution, making it clear that quote the

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<v Speaker 1>problem cannot be solved by giving either the Arabs or

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews all they want quote in the words of

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<v Speaker 1>the Commission themselves. The Commission therefore concluded quote two sovereign

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<v Speaker 1>independent states would be established, the one an Arab state

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<v Speaker 1>consisting of trans Jordan united with that part of Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>which lies to the east and south of a frontier,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other a Jewish state consisting of that part

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<v Speaker 1>of Palestine which lies to the north and west of

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<v Speaker 1>that frontier, quote, as would become quite common at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>This plan was rejected by both the Arab nationalists and

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<v Speaker 1>the Zionists. The McDonald White Paper, which we've talked about

572
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<v Speaker 1>on this show before as well, made a far less

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<v Speaker 1>conciliatory approach for both sides and placed the question of

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish immigration solely into Arab hands over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>a decade to come. According to the deliberations that were

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<v Speaker 1>made in Parliament on the White Paper, this move was

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<v Speaker 1>based on quote the desire to give the Arab section

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<v Speaker 1>of the population of Palestine an opportunity of putting forward

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<v Speaker 1>their views, such as was enjoyed by the Jewish Agency

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<v Speaker 1>for the other section of the population. Unsurprisingly, the Zionists

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<v Speaker 1>rejected the proposals. But more surprisingly, though less surprisingly to

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who are longtime listeners of this show

583
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<v Speaker 1>and remember us talking about this in previous episodes, the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab nationalist also rejected this proposal. Both of these episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of the Pyoku Mission and MacDonald White Paper represent the

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<v Speaker 1>British desire to end the violence, violence that arguably they

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<v Speaker 1>helped cultivate, as well as create two states and then

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<v Speaker 1>later one state on their terms, which were influenced by

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<v Speaker 1>both Christian Zionism and Orientalism. This attempt by them to

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<v Speaker 1>balance the scales on their terms was ultimately a failure,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the issuance of the White Paper of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, it created a greater instability than what previously

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<v Speaker 1>existed by solidifying the push toward radicalism that became more

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<v Speaker 1>endemic within the Zionist movement. No sacrifice will be too precious.

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<v Speaker 1>The Zionist history with the Holy Land is lengthy, diverse,

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond the scope of the original paper that this

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<v Speaker 1>is based on. Plus I have talked about it at

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<v Speaker 1>length in multiple episodes of this podcast, and there are

599
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<v Speaker 1>plenty of other podcasts that also get into that history

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<v Speaker 1>that are probably more qualified than me to get into

601
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<v Speaker 1>it anyway, regardless, in order to understand how the Zionist

602
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<v Speaker 1>identity became significantly formed by the immediate historical memory of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab Revolt, it is important to briefly explain some

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<v Speaker 1>other similar defining moments in Jewish history in the Palestinian Mandates,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which might sound familiar to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you longtime listeners. These, namely, were the riots that broke

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<v Speaker 1>out in nineteen twenty one and then again in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine. The former, known colloquially as the Jaffa Riots,

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<v Speaker 1>resulted in the murder of forty seven Jews, and the latter,

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<v Speaker 1>far more shocking than its violence and brutality, saw the

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<v Speaker 1>murder of one hundred and thirty three Jews. According to

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<v Speaker 1>a parliamentary report on the Colonies, well quote, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence that the nineteen twenty one riots were premeditated, unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>they were among the first events to set the tone

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<v Speaker 1>of understandable defensiveness among the Zionists. The nineteen twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>riots were not just noteworthy for their viciousness, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been covered at length on this show. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>whole episode back in the third of the Muslim Nazi

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<v Speaker 1>series back in twenty twenty one that talks about nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, and it's pretty clear that their viciousness was

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<v Speaker 1>almost unprecedented and very significant. But these riots were more

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<v Speaker 1>noteworthy for their more directed nature, thanks largely to a

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<v Speaker 1>religious dispute that began between Orthodox Jews and Arab Muslims

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<v Speaker 1>at the Western Wall that had been blown out of

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<v Speaker 1>proportion by mostly just agitating by Arab nationalists and Zionist

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<v Speaker 1>leaders these two riots. These two events, especially the latter,

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<v Speaker 1>saw many Zionist leaders like David Ben Gurion and Rahavem

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<v Speaker 1>Zaivi invoking past programs, including the famous nineteen oh three

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<v Speaker 1>Kitshenev pogram that was often used as a rallying cry

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<v Speaker 1>for the cause of Zionism in the early twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>These Zionist leaders invoked them in order to demonstrate that

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<v Speaker 1>the need for a Jewish state was self evident for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of Jewish safety. The Jews of Palestine had

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<v Speaker 1>already begun to establish self defense forces known as the Haganah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had their efficacy in defending Jews from being

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<v Speaker 1>accosted at times, but they were still not enough, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when demonstrations and riots increased in frequency and intensity. In addition,

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<v Speaker 1>there was very little that the British authorities could do

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the violence due to a lack of manpower,

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<v Speaker 1>so these events served as very bitter pills to many

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<v Speaker 1>Zionists who thought that their initial alliance with the British

642
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<v Speaker 1>Empire via the Balfer Declaration would ultimately serve them and

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<v Speaker 1>their mission of obtaining a Jewish national home as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Zionis leader High Invitesmen recalled in its memoirs quote

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<v Speaker 1>I realized at once that they would use this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to curtail Jewish immigration into Palestine. This reflection demonstrates that

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate result of the policies put in place a

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<v Speaker 1>decade later, that is, the curtailing of Jewish immigration into Palestine,

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<v Speaker 1>was already on the Zionist leadership's minds as a possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of what might happen. The bitter pill of what many

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<v Speaker 1>Zionists saw as Britain efficacy in protecting them from the

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<v Speaker 1>violence brought upon them by the Arab nationalists and the

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<v Speaker 1>mandate never truly went away, and in fact, it only

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<v Speaker 1>intensified after the Arab revolt actually broke out in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six, which actually began in Earnest with a murder

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<v Speaker 1>of two Jews. According to historian Tom Segev, while quote

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<v Speaker 1>at first, Arab terrorism was directed principally at the British

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<v Speaker 1>unquote Jewish casualties quote became more frequent unquote, resulting in

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<v Speaker 1>greater calls for quote unquote retribution and revenge, which began

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<v Speaker 1>to define the Zionus experience from nineteen thirty six to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty nine. This contributed to not just a greater

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<v Speaker 1>incentive for the coming cycle of violence between the two factions,

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<v Speaker 1>but also to the growing hostile suspicion of British motives

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to the question of establishing a Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>national home. The sense of an externally driven moral imperative

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<v Speaker 1>was also growing, not even just year by year, but month,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the rise of Nazism in Germany and the

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<v Speaker 1>growing persecution of Jews, made most evident by events like

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<v Speaker 1>krishtaal Knacht in nineteen thirty eight, which occurred during the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab Revolt and carried just as much meaning to the

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<v Speaker 1>Mandates Jews as it did for Europe's Jews, and even

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<v Speaker 1>more meaning for the Zionist movement, because again, like most

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<v Speaker 1>programs and violence directed at Jews, it proved the point

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<v Speaker 1>of needing a Jewish national home for self protection. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>there was not a consensus on how to respond to

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab nationalist violence within the Zionist movement. This was

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the two most influential groups within the movement,

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<v Speaker 1>the more moderate labor Zionists under David Ben Gurion and

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<v Speaker 1>the more militant Revisionist Zionists under ZIAV Jabetinski. To use

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<v Speaker 1>the words of Tom Segev again. While quote Ben Gurion

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<v Speaker 1>denied feeling the desire for vengeance unquote, the revisionists quote

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<v Speaker 1>argued that restraint would be interpreted as weakness, because if

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<v Speaker 1>the Arabs believed the Jews to be weak, they would

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<v Speaker 1>only increase their violence.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>This split in priorities became increasingly heated, especially after the

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<v Speaker 1>Iragoon militant group associated with the Revisionists began to target

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<v Speaker 1>and kill Arabs quote, causing dozens of deaths unquote, and

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<v Speaker 1>leading Bengurion to call Jabatinsky quote the fascist Satan unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>and to call the revisionist faction no joke quote a

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<v Speaker 1>party of naziso. This acrimonious split would always exist, but

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<v Speaker 1>by May of nineteen thirty nine and the issuance of

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<v Speaker 1>the MacDonald White Paper, it would largely be put aside.

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<v Speaker 1>A new, more unified identity had formed arguably out of

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<v Speaker 1>pure necessity. In the aftermath of the publication of the

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<v Speaker 1>MacDonald White Paper, there was an almost universal uproar in

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish community of Palestine. In his memoirs, Herbert Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>recalled quote, the Palestine White Paper of nineteen thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>has aroused the most vehement opposition on the part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews in Palestine and in all countries. The reaction

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<v Speaker 1>was one of spectacular violence against the colonial authorities, unmatched

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<v Speaker 1>since the initial outbreak of the Air Revolt itself. While

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<v Speaker 1>there was no consensus on the appropriateness of the violence,

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<v Speaker 1>the Zionists as a group as a whole became much

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<v Speaker 1>more unified in their opposition to the British Empire. This

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<v Speaker 1>could be seen on May eighteenth, nineteen thirty nine, when,

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<v Speaker 1>as described by historian Bruce Hoffman and his excellent book

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<v Speaker 1>Anonymous Soldiers quote a n the oath was taken in

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<v Speaker 1>synagogues and other public gathering places across Palestine, in which

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<v Speaker 1>gatherers pledged quote no sacrifice will be too precious in

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<v Speaker 1>order to set the new policy of the White Paper

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<v Speaker 1>at knought. While David Ben Gurion remained at odds with Jabatinsky,

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<v Speaker 1>and the revisionists. Ideologically at least, he endorsed quote, an

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<v Speaker 1>intensification of efforts to bring Jewish immigrants to Palestine illegally,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Haganau's Jewish self defense Force transformation into a

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<v Speaker 1>full fledged underground army. In the words of Bruce Hoffman. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>things were complicated by the outbreak of World War II

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<v Speaker 1>between Britain and Germany in September nineteen thirty nine, but

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<v Speaker 1>again in the words of Hoffman, quote, it did not

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<v Speaker 1>diminish Zionist opposition to the White Paper quote. This was

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the growing perception that the Zionists could only

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<v Speaker 1>rely on themselves, even if they they supported the British

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<v Speaker 1>against the Nazis, which they did most of them, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>including the most radical among them like Zaiev Jabatinski. There

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<v Speaker 1>were only a few exceptions, which we'll get to in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, but regardless, there was a relatively unified front

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<v Speaker 1>against the Third Reich within the Zionist community. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>perception of needing to only rely on themselves was driven

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<v Speaker 1>by the immediate historical memory that had formed during the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab Revolt, building upon the past memories of Jewish helplessness

731
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<v Speaker 1>during the riots of nineteen twenty one and nineteen twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus a new identity had formed, one of resolve to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve the goal of a Jewish national home by any

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<v Speaker 1>means necessary and without the help of anyone but themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Around this new identity, the previously fractured Yeshiv, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish community in Palestine could unify. This unification resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in an increase in revolutionary and thus violent activity both

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<v Speaker 1>during the waning months of the Arab Revolts and many

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<v Speaker 1>years afterward. The rise of the Stern Gang in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty represented the only meaningful split found within the Zionist

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<v Speaker 1>camp thanks to its quote fateful step toward an alliance

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<v Speaker 1>with Italy and Germany unquote during the Second World War.

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<v Speaker 1>To use the words of Bruce Hoffmann again, the Stern Gang,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you didn't pick up on that was a

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<v Speaker 1>radical Zionist group of Jews who sought to seek an

746
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<v Speaker 1>alliance with Nazi Germany. They were obviously on the more

747
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<v Speaker 1>extreme end of autonomous Zionist identity and continued to actively

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<v Speaker 1>fight against British colonial forces through acts of terrorism, even

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<v Speaker 1>while the British kept fighting the Nazis during World War II,

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<v Speaker 1>but the rest of the Zionist organizations, while ostensibly allied

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<v Speaker 1>with Britain during their war with the Nazis, remained dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to forging their own path toward a Jewish national home.

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<v Speaker 1>They just didn't take it as far as the Stern

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<v Speaker 1>Gang did. For it should be pretty obvious reasons. To

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<v Speaker 1>call them the more principled ones in comparison to the

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<v Speaker 1>Stern Gang is a bit of an understatement, especially given

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<v Speaker 1>the Stern Gang's leader, Avraham Stern's, own, for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>a better way of putting it, messionic complex. This was

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<v Speaker 1>made most plain in the less extreme but no less

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<v Speaker 1>radical Irgun, under the command of the controversial Monock and Began,

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<v Speaker 1>who issued a proclamation in nineteen forty four claiming quote

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<v Speaker 1>there can no longer be an armistice between the Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>nation and its youth and a British administration unquote, closing

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<v Speaker 1>with a pledge that quote, our nation is at war

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<v Speaker 1>with this regime and it is a fight to the finish.

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<v Speaker 1>The Irgun then bombed the immigration offices of Haifa, Jerusalem

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<v Speaker 1>and Tel Aviv, quote, striking at the organ of government

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for implementing the nineteen thirty nine white papers restrictive

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants policy. Again in the words of historian Bruce Hoffman, Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the moderates among the Zionist movement, like high Invitesmen, publicly

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<v Speaker 1>condemned the terrorist actions and approved of the counter terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to arrest any found responsible. But the directives put

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<v Speaker 1>in place by the Haganah authorities went out of their

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<v Speaker 1>way to ensure the safety of the terrorists themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>an effort to remain independent of British authorities and by

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<v Speaker 1>extension reprisals by them. As Bruce Hoffman explains, the Haganah

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<v Speaker 1>authorities quote sought assurances that the British colonial security forces

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<v Speaker 1>would take no action against any terrorist or suspected terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>without first consulting the Jewish agency, which would be essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote blank check for the Zionist authorities to

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<v Speaker 1>quote deal with the terrorists entirely in their own way,

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<v Speaker 1>completely outside the law, and without any vestige of due

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<v Speaker 1>process unquote. The proposal for this was rejected, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>in Hoffman's words, quote, a perceptible chill in the agency's

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<v Speaker 1>relations with the government followed. What this demonstrates is that

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<v Speaker 1>even though there was a range of hostility toward British authorities,

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<v Speaker 1>ranging from wanton terrorism to targeted symbolic attacks on individuals

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<v Speaker 1>to cooperation only on the Zionist terms. There was nevertheless

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<v Speaker 1>a unification in that hostility toward the British Empire only

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<v Speaker 1>made possible by the historical memory of the events of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab revolt. This sense of unity, however, disparate in

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<v Speaker 1>its own way, became obvious, as Hoffman notes, quote, the

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<v Speaker 1>same attitudes permeated the Yeshuev unquote, with newspapers that formerly

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<v Speaker 1>denounced the terrorist actions now going silent except to denounce

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<v Speaker 1>British applications of the death penalty on Jewish prisoners. By

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<v Speaker 1>the mid nineteen forties, the Zionists could reasonably say that

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<v Speaker 1>for all of their differences, they stood together under one banner. Conversely,

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<v Speaker 1>their Arab nationalist counterparts developed precisely the opposite problem.

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<v Speaker 2>A.

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<v Speaker 1>Struggle for unity, a lethal fixation. While Arab nationalism had

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<v Speaker 1>a checkered history until the early twentieth century, it began

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<v Speaker 1>to take a recognizable shape by the eighteen eighties, when

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<v Speaker 1>most Arabic speaking lands were still under the dominance of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ottoman Empire. As the Arab historian George and Tonius

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<v Speaker 1>observed there was quote a definite progression from the general

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<v Speaker 1>towards the particular from a rhetorical denunciation of Turkish misrule

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<v Speaker 1>to the formulation of a specific program of national aspirations. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of Arab nationalism remained relatively diffuse, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>those early years. As Israeli critic and historian Ilan Papa explains,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike many typical expressions of nationalism that quote appropriate any

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<v Speaker 1>useful historical event that precede them on quote as precursors,

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<v Speaker 1>there were other precursors that included quote the secret societies

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<v Speaker 1>that promoted the teaching of Arabic and the study of

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<v Speaker 1>Arabic history and culture. Quote. It was also a growing

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<v Speaker 1>trend within Islamic academia, particularly at the prestigious Alazar University

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<v Speaker 1>in Cairo, where it had become a feature of the

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<v Speaker 1>teachings of a sheikh named Rashid Rita, who a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of longtime listeners might remember was the teacher of a

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<v Speaker 1>very important figure in this story and one who has

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<v Speaker 1>come up a lot. Hajamin al Husseini will get back

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<v Speaker 1>to him now. Rita's lectures centered on three ideas, three

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<v Speaker 1>core principles essentially, which Ilon Papa, for all of his faults,

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<v Speaker 1>lays out quite comprehensively here quote that Muslim society everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>ought to be very cautious in its encounters with Western culture,

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<v Speaker 1>that it was necessary to return to a distilled form

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<v Speaker 1>of Islamic precepts, sifting out all vestiges of negative Western influence,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the religious undertakes must be tied to the

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<v Speaker 1>political and national struggle. This line of thinking would deeply

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<v Speaker 1>influence Rashid Rita's most infamous student, who we just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>and who combined it with his own political and spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>preoccupations as he took on a more active role in

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<v Speaker 1>the cause of Arab nationalism in the Palestinian mandate. Hajamin

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<v Speaker 1>al Husseini was part of one of Palestine's most noble families,

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<v Speaker 1>the Husseinis, who claimed lineage from the prophet Muhammad himself

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<v Speaker 1>for well over a century. By the time of his

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<v Speaker 1>birth in eighteen ninety four, his family had occupied the

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<v Speaker 1>religious position of Mufti in Jerusalem, placing them in charge

838
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 1>of the community's donated wealth of the Vakfa. Hajamen would

839
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<v Speaker 1>rise to this position himself in nineteen twenty at the

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation of Herbert Samuel, who would later admit that it

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01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:01.599
<v Speaker 1>was the greatest blunder in his career. And while Haaja

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01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Mien cooperated with the British in the years leading up

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01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to the Arab Revolt as well as a number of Zionists,

844
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<v Speaker 1>surprisingly I know he never forgot the teachings that he

845
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:16.280
<v Speaker 1>had absorbed during his time studying under Rashid Rita. While

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01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:19.719
<v Speaker 1>this helps explain Haja Mean's willingness to work with the British,

847
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 1>according to historian Orren Kessler and friend of the Show,

848
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 1>since quote, unusually among Islamic thinkers of the time, Rashid

849
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Rita favored the British Empire to the Ottoman and imparted

850
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.559
<v Speaker 1>that sensibility to his student unquote, it also helps explain

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01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 1>why Haajamen ultimately made the choices that he did when

852
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 1>the Arab Revolt kicked off in Ernest in nineteen thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>The Arab revolts beginning can be traced to the actions

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01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.199
<v Speaker 1>of one man, a Muslim preacher named is al Din

855
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:54.039
<v Speaker 1>al Haassam, Assyrian by birth, al Caassam, like Jajamin al Husseini,

856
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.400
<v Speaker 1>was educated at Al Jar University, but he took a

857
01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:01.880
<v Speaker 1>more spiritual path than his contemporary's own place polytical one.

858
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:05.079
<v Speaker 1>He frequently preached the need for a quote unquote return

859
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:09.039
<v Speaker 1>to God, and as European imperial activity in the Middle

860
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 1>East increased in the early twentieth century, the necessity of jihad.

861
01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:17.639
<v Speaker 1>This continued into the nineteen thirties, when his activities became

862
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:21.440
<v Speaker 1>base in the Palestinian Mandate, and as jihadis rhetoric continued

863
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:24.079
<v Speaker 1>to escalate to include Jews as well as the British,

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01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:29.360
<v Speaker 1>which quickly turned into violent action. After Alcassam and his

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01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.480
<v Speaker 1>men killed a Jewish police sergeant on November sixth, nineteen

866
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:36.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, the Sheik retreated to the forest surrounding Haifa.

867
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:41.840
<v Speaker 1>After British authorities caught up to him, a gun battle commenced,

868
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:46.199
<v Speaker 1>resulting in Alcassam's death, which quote gave the Arabs moral

869
01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.480
<v Speaker 1>power they had hitherto lacked unquote. To use the words

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01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:54.119
<v Speaker 1>of Orrin Kessler again and comparing him to the Zionist

871
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Ikon Joseph Trumpeldor, who died defending the tel High Settlement

872
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen twenty, Tom Segev explained, quote, both men each

873
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 1>gave their national movements a heroic myth. This sparked the

874
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.440
<v Speaker 1>beginning of guerrilla operations in the Palestinian Mandate, leading to

875
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the General Strike and other actions taken in the name

876
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of the nationalist cause, which became the Arab Revolt. The

877
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:24.519
<v Speaker 1>rapidly developing legend also forced Hajajamin al Husseini to pick

878
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a side. As Israeli historian Zivie Elpeleg explains, quote, more

879
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 1>than any other individual at the time, it was al

880
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Cassam who contributed to the process which was to lead

881
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Hajamen and the Palestinian leadership into confrontation with the British.

882
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:46.079
<v Speaker 1>It is more likely than not that Hajamen resented al

883
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Casam for forcing his hand this way. As longtime listeners

884
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 1>might remember, up until the Arab Revolt, Hajjamen had been

885
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to balance his relationship with the British and his

886
01:07:57.119 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 1>own image in the popular imagination of his fellow Arab

887
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Natalists and, more to the point, the Palestinian people in general.

888
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:09.199
<v Speaker 1>But once the regardless of how you spin it, very

889
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:13.199
<v Speaker 1>romantic legend of Alcacam and his death began to form,

890
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Haja mean quote faced a dilemma un quote, to use

891
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the words of Zivielpalleg Hajamen ultimately read the room, and

892
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.560
<v Speaker 1>noting that the growing unrest was signaling a unifying force

893
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:32.520
<v Speaker 1>among anyone who considered themselves a Palestinian or Arab nationalist

894
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 1>in general, or even merely an anti imperialist or anti Zionist,

895
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 1>he formed an organization known as the Arab Higher Committee

896
01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:44.640
<v Speaker 1>or HC, placing the various Arab national committees springing up

897
01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:47.920
<v Speaker 1>all over the Mandate under one umbrella and signaling the

898
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.279
<v Speaker 1>official beginning, the political beginning, if you will, of the

899
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Arab Revolt. This is laid out very effectively by Orren

900
01:08:54.600 --> 01:09:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Kessler in his book Palistine nineteen thirty six. While a

901
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:04.279
<v Speaker 1>general strike served as the centerpiece of this unified front,

902
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the violence that occurred across the country and eventually within

903
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the organization's purview gave a sign of things to come.

904
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.359
<v Speaker 1>For all of the Arab unity that was being felt

905
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.000
<v Speaker 1>during the outbreak of the Arab Revolt, internal tensions began

906
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:23.239
<v Speaker 1>to make themselves apparent very quickly. There had already been

907
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:27.079
<v Speaker 1>an existing rivalry between the Hussini family and another notable

908
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Palestinian family known as the Nashashibis, which frequently, if impotently, manifested.

909
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 1>But there were also more practical frustrations felt by the

910
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.079
<v Speaker 1>figures in the AGEC, like the Mayor of Jerusalem, Houssein

911
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Fakrie al Khalidi, who interestingly enough, is the uncle of

912
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the famous Palestinian activist and writer Rashid Khalidi, the author

913
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of the One Hundred Years War on Palestine. Hossain Fakri

914
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:55.640
<v Speaker 1>al Khaledi had been deported by British authorities of the

915
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Seychelles after the Arab Hire Committee had been banned along

916
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:02.159
<v Speaker 1>with all other national politicals parties, and in a diary

917
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:04.520
<v Speaker 1>entry from November of nineteen thirty seven that I was

918
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:08.680
<v Speaker 1>able to obtain, Al Khalidi expressed presentment that he had

919
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:13.039
<v Speaker 1>quote not received one cable of encouragement neither from Palestine

920
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:16.119
<v Speaker 1>or from outside unquote of his prison cell is what

921
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.760
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about, and quote couldn't Hajamin wire a word

922
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of sympathy, greeting or encouragement unquote, And one month later

923
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:29.760
<v Speaker 1>al Khalidi complained again that Hajamin was completely ambivalent toward

924
01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:33.479
<v Speaker 1>his and the others suffering at being exiled so far

925
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:37.760
<v Speaker 1>from home at the time Hajamin was hiding in Syria,

926
01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and as al Khalidi noted, quote, his family will join

927
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.319
<v Speaker 1>him sooner or later, and he has money enough to

928
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:47.119
<v Speaker 1>keep him and his children going on for years unquote.

929
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:50.840
<v Speaker 1>The question of money was a frequent one that came up,

930
01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and for good reason, as we covered in the last

931
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:57.000
<v Speaker 1>major episode of the Muslim Nazis in which we talked

932
01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:00.920
<v Speaker 1>about the immense salary or allows maybe is a better

933
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 1>word for it, that Hajamin commanded when he was hanging

934
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:08.479
<v Speaker 1>out with the Third Reich, but that is another story.

935
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:12.960
<v Speaker 1>This frustration fell by al Khalidi was by no means universal,

936
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's worth noting that, but it was arguably representative.

937
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Though many of the Mufti's opponents had if many of

938
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you longtime listeners remember, been cowed into silence. Now the

939
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:30.239
<v Speaker 1>evidence is circumstantial, but internal violence that had been linked

940
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:33.479
<v Speaker 1>to supporters of Haja Meen was plaguing the Arab revolt,

941
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:39.319
<v Speaker 1>as historian Tom Segev explains, quote in the name of patriotism.

942
01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:44.680
<v Speaker 1>That were also threats, intimidations, blackmail, and other forms of hooliganism,

943
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and at times the rebellions seemed more like a civil

944
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:52.880
<v Speaker 1>war than a national uprising. Indeed, the rebellion quickly deteriorated

945
01:11:53.039 --> 01:12:01.399
<v Speaker 1>into internaceine fighting. This not only plague the revolt and

946
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:06.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever unified Pan Arab national identity it implied, it became

947
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a feature of the revolt and of the Arab nationalist

948
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:13.560
<v Speaker 1>movement itself and many of its future incarnations. In fact,

949
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 1>as Palestinian historian Isa Halleff explains quote, for throughout the

950
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:22.279
<v Speaker 1>time of the Arab Higher Committee's belated attempts to encourage

951
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:26.600
<v Speaker 1>a semblance of unity in Palestine, infighting and personal conflict

952
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:34.000
<v Speaker 1>served to hamper effective national leadership. This infighting would come

953
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to define the largest blunder made by not just the

954
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Arab nationalists, but arguably any side in the revolt, and

955
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it comes from the story that we open this episode with.

956
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Despite this rapidly deteriorating situation in the Arab nationalist faction,

957
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the continued violence was wearing on the British, who, after

958
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the failure of the Peo Commission suggested two Ston partition,

959
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:05.880
<v Speaker 1>caved and published the White Paper in nineteen thirty nine, which,

960
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:09.840
<v Speaker 1>if you'll recall, proposed to transfer all immigration authority over

961
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Palestinians. During the next ten years. While everyone

962
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:17.439
<v Speaker 1>in the Arab Higher Committee, which met in Hajjamin al

963
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Husseini's Beirut department on the day the White Paper was released,

964
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was supposedly pleased with the propositions and result of the

965
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:30.159
<v Speaker 1>White Paper, it was Haja Mien who remained steadfast in

966
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:35.079
<v Speaker 1>his rejection of the proposal. According to Isa Khalaff, it

967
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.000
<v Speaker 1>quickly became clear that quote, it was not until the

968
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.600
<v Speaker 1>White Paper had been officially rejected by the Arab Higher

969
01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Committee at the end of May that the political differences

970
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:51.279
<v Speaker 1>between the moderates and the Mufti came to the fore unquote,

971
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:53.800
<v Speaker 1>according to the recollections of a doctor who was present,

972
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 1>quoted by Oron Kessler, quote, the sole concern of the

973
01:13:57.079 --> 01:14:01.239
<v Speaker 1>committee was now concentrated on convincing Hajah that his negative

974
01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:05.000
<v Speaker 1>stand was extremely detrimental to the Arab cause and was

975
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:12.479
<v Speaker 1>serving unintentionally the Zionist cause. Hajamen argued, and eventually some

976
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of the more radical among the group agreed that the

977
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:18.520
<v Speaker 1>paper did not contain enough guarantees to his liking, including

978
01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a provision in the White Paper that still insisted, despite

979
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:25.319
<v Speaker 1>turning immigration policy completely over to the Arabs, that the

980
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:29.880
<v Speaker 1>new authorities would still guarantee a Jewish national home. While

981
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Hajajamin al Husseini did not see his rejection as a misstep,

982
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:36.000
<v Speaker 1>this was not how many who took part in the

983
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Arab revolts saw it as Orin Kessler explains, quote nine

984
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Arabs out of ten welcomed to White Paper, The editor

985
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Palestinian nationalist newspaper philstine reckoned, and anyone rejecting

986
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>it must be quote an Arab ass or an Arab

987
01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:54.479
<v Speaker 1>trader unquote. While rebel leaders in Damascus said the same

988
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:58.880
<v Speaker 1>as other critics, castigating Hajamin for having desecrated the Holy

989
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Rebellion for his own self as shames unquote. For the

990
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Mufties part, he never wavered in his conviction that not

991
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:13.560
<v Speaker 1>only had he made the correct decision, but that even

992
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.600
<v Speaker 1>with the olive branches offered in the nineteen thirty nine

993
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.319
<v Speaker 1>White Paper or even the nineteen thirty seven Peel Commission,

994
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Britain had quote given Palestine to the Jews unquote, something

995
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that he wrote in an essay published in nineteen fifty four,

996
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.319
<v Speaker 1>concluding that quote Palestine fell into the hands of Brittan,

997
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the exploiter and greedy world jewry quote. Hajja Means's own

998
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:39.319
<v Speaker 1>prejudices were not completely post Hawk bitterness, as we've covered

999
01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:44.039
<v Speaker 1>on this show, or justification for that matter, again, as

1000
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.000
<v Speaker 1>we've covered. By nineteen thirty nine, he had made his

1001
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 1>feelings on Jews as a people very well known. In

1002
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:55.319
<v Speaker 1>October of nineteen thirty seven, he made a speech titled

1003
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Appeal to All Muslims of the World, which was recorded

1004
01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:02.279
<v Speaker 1>in a pamphlet Maid for propaganda purposes by the Nazis

1005
01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:07.199
<v Speaker 1>a number of years later. In this speech, Hajamin claimed

1006
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:10.159
<v Speaker 1>that quote there must be good reason unquote for why

1007
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Jews had been oppressed over time, as well as repeating

1008
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the conspiracy theory that quote the Jews were the epicenter

1009
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.039
<v Speaker 1>of the plague of Justinian unquote, and that this quote

1010
01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was the reason that the Jews to this day are

1011
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:31.119
<v Speaker 1>called microbes unquote. This was Haja Means fixation, and it

1012
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:36.159
<v Speaker 1>was clear that anything that even hinted a conciliation toward

1013
01:16:36.279 --> 01:16:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Jews was unacceptable to him, and he would not tolerate

1014
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it with anyone around him. That was what motivated him

1015
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.680
<v Speaker 1>ultimately to make the decision that he did in that

1016
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Beirut department in nineteen thirty nine. This also explains why,

1017
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>in the midst of the Arab Revolt, that Hajamin had

1018
01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:02.960
<v Speaker 1>been placing diplomatic feelers with the new Notahza regime in Germany.

1019
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:05.880
<v Speaker 1>While his alliance with the Nazis was partly born out

1020
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of necessity, one could argue thanks to his overt opposition

1021
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to the British or in the Arab Revolt, and the

1022
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.439
<v Speaker 1>hostility between the British and the Nazis was growing, his

1023
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>alliance with the Nazis was still, as we have covered

1024
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 1>on this show, very willing, very enthusiastic end quote, not

1025
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:24.520
<v Speaker 1>for want of an alternative that Hajjamen acted as he

1026
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:28.239
<v Speaker 1>did unquote. To use the words of Ziviel Peleg Again,

1027
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:33.079
<v Speaker 1>this alliance between Hajjemen and the Third Reich, thanks to

1028
01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:35.399
<v Speaker 1>the outcome of the war, more than for a distrust

1029
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of the new German government in the nineteen thirties, was

1030
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:43.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the major reasons that Hajamen became discredited as

1031
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a story in Gilbert Atchcar writes quote. Even before the

1032
01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:51.319
<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty eight Knakba utterly discredited him, Hajjamin's reputation had

1033
01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:54.960
<v Speaker 1>reached a low ebb in Arab and Palestinian political circles.

1034
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:59.680
<v Speaker 1>With the defeat of the Axis powers unquote. This forced

1035
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<v Speaker 1>the memories of Hajamin's reckless decision making during the last

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<v Speaker 1>year of the Arab revolt, particularly with the nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine White Paper, to be relived by those who had them,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, those memories. One of Hajamin's early allies, the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab nationalists, Musa Alami quote, eventually recognized the mufties fundamental extremism,

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<v Speaker 1>but by then it was far too late. Haja Mean

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<v Speaker 1>was his tragedy set a close acquaintance unquote. In the

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<v Speaker 1>words of historian Orn Kessler. Ultimately, while some of his

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<v Speaker 1>fellow Arab nationalists had little issue with Haja means anti

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<v Speaker 1>Semitism as far as their own biases went, they hated

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<v Speaker 1>him more for what he did to their movement, which

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<v Speaker 1>had been done thanks to the anti Semitic blind spot

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<v Speaker 1>that he always carried. By the time the consequences of

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<v Speaker 1>Haja Means blind spot became more apparent, the specific issues

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<v Speaker 1>underlying British mandatory authority and Jewish immigration had faded into

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<v Speaker 1>a general state of fear. As George and Tonius observed quote,

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<v Speaker 1>to the Arabs, the problem is now essentially one of

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<v Speaker 1>self preservation. Thanks to Quote, Arab fears of eventual dispossession

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<v Speaker 1>into a certainty. This led, in part, according to Antonius,

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<v Speaker 1>to Quote, an understanding between Arabs, British and Jews increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to attain. Hajamen and his influence had helped create

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<v Speaker 1>this certainty of eventual dispossession. Therefore, the historical memory of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab revolt, and namely how it came to be

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<v Speaker 1>defined by the Mufti and his failures due to his

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<v Speaker 1>own bigotries, proved to be the unspoken that fractured the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab nationalists identity, with various factions such as a secular

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<v Speaker 1>PLO and the Islamist Hamas vying for control of the

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<v Speaker 1>movement until the early twenty first century, when the latter,

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<v Speaker 1>that is Hamas finally seized control.

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<v Speaker 2>She who.

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<v Speaker 1>The catalyst of chaos. The Arab Revolt of nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six to nineteen thirty nine was an event with many

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<v Speaker 1>diverse moving parts and many different figures with their own

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<v Speaker 1>particular agendas that all produced a wide variety of results

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<v Speaker 1>that ultimately paved the way for events that ultimately overshadowed

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab Revolt in the historical record. However, by no

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<v Speaker 1>means that the historical memory of the Arab Revolt diminish,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when we examine how its historical memory shaped the

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<v Speaker 1>identities of the three major factions who took part in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is clear, based on the evidence available, that the

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<v Speaker 1>respective identities of the Arab Nationalists, the Zionists, and even

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<v Speaker 1>the British Empire were significantly shaped by the events of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab Revolt. The Arab nationalists fractured identity came about

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the suffering and humiliation brought about by the

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<v Speaker 1>counterinsurgency tactics used by the British authorities during the revolt itself,

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<v Speaker 1>the intensifying retaliatory strikes from more radical Zionists that escalated

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<v Speaker 1>during and after the revolt, and the shortsighted bigotry motivated

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01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:18.439
<v Speaker 1>decision making of the self appointed leadership, which was all

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<v Speaker 1>the more delegitimized by the leadership's alliance with the Nazis

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<v Speaker 1>during World War II. The Zionists more unified and radical

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<v Speaker 1>identity came about thanks to the Arab Revolt, reinforcing the

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<v Speaker 1>belief that had been building for nearly two decades that

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<v Speaker 1>they could not rely on external help from the likes

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<v Speaker 1>of the British or really anyone else out there. The

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<v Speaker 1>historical memory of the revolt and the British authorities proposals

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<v Speaker 1>to end it that the Zionists saw as unacceptable also

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<v Speaker 1>built upon the existential threat that they saw coming from

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi Germany, and this brought all the different factions together

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<v Speaker 1>in a more defensive form that would come to define

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<v Speaker 1>future conflicts and even political radicalism. Finally, the British Empire's

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<v Speaker 1>historical memory would be one of imperial failure of decline,

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<v Speaker 1>which they both sought to avoid by striking a compromise

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<v Speaker 1>and then sought to justify after the fact as a

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<v Speaker 1>peacekeeper and builder of nations. As historian Tom Segev explains, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the deterioration in Arab Jewish relations was threatening the prestige

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<v Speaker 1>of the entire empire. This small strip of land clearly

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<v Speaker 1>carried a lot of importance for a global spanning empire,

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<v Speaker 1>as unlikely as it might seem. This, combined with the

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<v Speaker 1>lingering presence of Christian Zionism among many colonial officials and

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<v Speaker 1>government representatives, helped define the British self conceptualized identity as

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<v Speaker 1>a peace key being decolonizing force deeper into the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>The identities constructed by the events and outcomes of the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab Revolt are also significant to the broader literature that

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<v Speaker 1>already examines the formation of the State of Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>the origins of the ongoing Israeli Palestinian conflict, for many

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<v Speaker 1>reasons unique to each faction of the revolt. For the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab Nationalists, it supersedes the narratives that Palestinian suffering is

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<v Speaker 1>unique to the experiences of the nineteen forty eight Nakba,

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<v Speaker 1>which both contextualizes a situation that Palestinians have faced for

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<v Speaker 1>over eight decades and acknowledges the full spectrum of agency

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01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:49.319
<v Speaker 1>their leadership possessed before the foundation of Israel. For the Zionists,

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<v Speaker 1>the identity formed by the historical memory of the Arab

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<v Speaker 1>re volt surfaces the reactive defensiveness that came to largely

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<v Speaker 1>define the Zionists experience after the Arab Israeli War of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty and reveals its origins as existing a decade earlier. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>for the British Empire's identity being forged by the historical

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01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:13.199
<v Speaker 1>memory of the Arab Revolt, it ultimately questions the imperialist

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01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:18.279
<v Speaker 1>narratives of state building and magnanimous diplomatic overtures that dominated

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<v Speaker 1>the discourse during the era of British decolonization in the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century. Without the events of the Arab Revolt acting

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<v Speaker 1>as this catalyst, the collective identities of the British Empire,

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01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:36.479
<v Speaker 1>the Zionists, and the Arab nationalists would not look the

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<v Speaker 1>same after nineteen thirty nine, much less in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>first century. While the Zionist project has been in essence completed,

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<v Speaker 1>the British Empire dismantled, and the Arab nationalists more atomized

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<v Speaker 1>and radicalized than ever. The importance of the decisions made

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<v Speaker 1>by the major figures of each faction cannot be exaggerated.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing is preordained in history, much less one that involves

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<v Speaker 1>the mass movements and displacements of millions of people. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is difficult, very very difficult to envision the same

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<v Speaker 1>outcome occurring if the three competing interests and identities had

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<v Speaker 1>not come together to be formed by the historical memory

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<v Speaker 1>of the Arab Revolt. Hello again, everybody, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>sticking around. I just want to give a quick shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the supporters of History Impossible over on Patreon

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<v Speaker 1>who are supporting the show at the comrades and friends

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<v Speaker 1>level are above. That includes Bob Downing, Eric Hodges, Greg Hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>s O Skip A Chaco, Molly Pan, John Pisano, Anna R.

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<v Speaker 1>PJ Raider, Matthew Rice, Emily Schmidt, and of course f you.

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<v Speaker 1>I very much appreciate all of these, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>and generous monthly donations. They really do mean a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>They help keep the lights on. Like I like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's especially important while I'm you know, doing this grad

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<v Speaker 1>school thing that does seem to be paying off. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>learning a lot, I'm having a good time with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad to share with you now, like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what I've been working on. If you read

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<v Speaker 1>if you read the History Impossible newsletter or check out

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<v Speaker 1>the posts on Patreon, you you know have already been

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<v Speaker 1>seen that I've been putting a lot of stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>there onto there, so you guys can see it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the medium is the message, and the medium

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<v Speaker 1>in this case is a podcast. So I wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make it into something that you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>all used to, and I think I did an okay

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<v Speaker 1>job as difficult as it is to adapt academic writing

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<v Speaker 1>into podcast form, I think, so let me know if

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's a little stilted, of course, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it worked out. I have a couple more coming

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<v Speaker 1>in the near future, two more specifically of research material

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<v Speaker 1>that I've done. The next one is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>have never really talked about before on this show, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll find it really interesting. I'll be trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pair it with a polemic each episode, like I

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<v Speaker 1>did with this one. This one is a nice sort

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<v Speaker 1>of factual addendum to my question of genocide episode. I

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01:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>guess maybe just thematically. I'm not sure how to put it,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's they pair together nicely, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping to do that with each of these episodes

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<v Speaker 1>that are coming out. While I yes, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I am still working on Muslim Nazis. In fact, we

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<v Speaker 1>are about to get into the writing of that and

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<v Speaker 1>the note taking and the incredible detail that I have

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<v Speaker 1>to unspool. The knotted rope that I have to unspool

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01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>might be a better way of putting in it, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're going back to Yugoslavia. It is very confusing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think this episode that I'm working on will

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel the most confident about it

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<v Speaker 1>that I have compared to most other episodes I've done,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I think we're finally getting into the meat

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<v Speaker 1>of that story. We're finally going back to where we

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<v Speaker 1>started the entire series with so many years ago. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>with all that said, thank you again for listening and

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<v Speaker 1>for sticking with me all these years, for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who have been here all the time, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to all of you newcomers. I mean, I love having

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<v Speaker 1>you here here bring you feedback from you via email

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<v Speaker 1>or direct message or whatever. So thank you again for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and stay tuned for the next episode of History Impossible.
