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smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for

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your support. Political capital. I remember the first time I

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heard this term political capital. George W. Bush said it

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after he won re election and he said, We're going

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to try to reform social security. Outrage ensued, but he

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said at that original press conference where he talked about it,

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he said that he had some political capital and he

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intended to spend it. What was he talking about, Well,

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he had won the popular vote, right he had, if

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I recall correctly, he had won reelection against John F. Kerry,

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who I believe served in Vietnam I think, and John Edwards.

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He had beaten them to win reelection in two thousand

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and four, and he had amassed this political capital. And

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that was the first time I had heard that term.

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But that's what jd. Vance is sort of referencing, but

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not by the same name. But he's saying that you

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have a mandate from the citizens. When you run a campaign,

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you say these are the things I'm going to do.

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They then vote for you to do those things. That's

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what gives you the power in a democracy. That's the point.

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If you are going to not do the things that

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the citizens want, you create the instability because the people

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are demands something that you're not giving them. This just

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came across three minutes ago from Legal insurrection dot com.

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They've got the results of a Marquette pull and Donald

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Trump has broad support on multiple issues. We're talking sixty

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percent really across the board, plus or minus one or

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two points here. But for example, sixty three percent favor

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government's recognition of only two sexes sixty three percent. Sixty

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percent want the deporting of immigrants who are here illegally,

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sixty percent want to expand oil and gas production. Fifty

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nine percent support the declaration of an emergency at the

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southern border. So these are things that the American public wants.

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Trump promise to do these things, and he is now

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simply trying to fulfill his campaign promises. He will not

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be punished for that. He will be celebrated for it.

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And when you have this class of quote unquote elites,

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which at some point now that's turning into a slur.

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I'm not sure they're aware of it. But when you

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think you know better than all of these other people,

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these hundreds of millions of people, but you know better

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because you're the expert, but they don't want what you

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are doing. They don't want what you're selling, but they

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don't know what's good for them. I'm not so sure

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about that. I think maybe maybe they do. You get

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enough people that have a similar view of something, I

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would say they probably do have a pretty good idea

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of what they want. You have to at least ask them.

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And in your it's the same thing. And that's what jd.

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Vance references when he's talking about the migration problem, the

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illegal immigration problem in Europe. Your citizens do not want

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this anymore, if they ever did initially. This is why

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astroturfing never succeeds in the long term. These are you know,

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whatever gains. So astroturfing is the fake grassroots, right, So

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a grassroots movement like the Tea Party, for example, that

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was a grassroots movement inside the Republican Party that has

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legs that will be built to last because those are

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actual people with actual beliefs that turn out they're not

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politically engaged, but then they become engaged over a particular issue,

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as the Tea partiers did, and that is a there

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is a difference there than the astroturfing through these NGOs,

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these government funded or foundation funded entities, these activist groups

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that turn out in the streets and you know, handcuff

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themselves to you know, famous works of art and throw

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paint on them and scream at people and set up

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tentifadas everywhere. Like that is not built to last because

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it's not real. It's AstroTurf. You think it's going to last,

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You think it's going to be the superior product. Look,

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it's fake. It won't wither, it won't die, you won't whatever. Yeah,

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I'm yeah. The grass is actually better, like the natural

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grassroots that's actually more durable than the astroturfing. So he's

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talking about having a mandate from your citizens to govern. Okay,

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you need the mandates from your people. If you want

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to enjoy competitive economics, affordable energy, and secure supply chains.

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Speaker 2: You cannot win a democratic mandate by censoring your opponents

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or putting them in jail, whether that's the leader of

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the opposition, a humble Christian praying in her own home,

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or a journalist trying to report the news.

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Speaker 3: Nor can you win one.

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Speaker 2: By disregarding your basic electorate on questions like who gets

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to be a part of our shared society, and of

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all the pressings challenges that the nations represented your face,

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I believe there is nothing more urgent than mass migration. Today,

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almost one in five people living in this country moved

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here from abroad.

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Speaker 3: That is, of course, an all time high.

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Speaker 2: Is a similar number, by the way, in the United States,

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also an all time high. The number of immigrants who

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entered the EU from non EU countries doubled between twenty

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twenty one and twenty twenty two alone, and of course

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it's gotten much higher since. And we know this situation.

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It didn't materialize in a vacuum. It's the result of

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a series of conscious decisions made by politicians all over

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the continent and others across the world over the span

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of a decade.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's been intentional. It is absolutely intentional, and your

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citizens do not want it and that's why you are

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seeing the blowback. Right. The blowback is coming in the

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form of these quote unquote right wing depending on which

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country you're in, but they're coming from these quote right

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wing populist movements. And when you keep banning them or

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you try to suppress their speech, you don't invite them

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to participate in the conference, for example, you're actually amplifying

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their grievances. And people then start saying, well, wait a minute,

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how come these guys are getting shut out? I happen

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to agree. I think it's gotten out of control. I

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know somebody who got attacked by some you know, Assi

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Lee or something. Right, you end up creating more of

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the thing that you're trying to stamp out. It's like

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the the tighter you clench the fist, the more slips

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through your fingers. That's what he's warning them about. And

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just the day before, so Thursday, the day before this

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Friday conference, there was a terrorist attack in the very

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city where they held the conference, in Munich.

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Speaker 2: How many times must we suffer these appalling setbacks before

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we change course and take our shared civilization in a

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new direction. No voter on this continent went to the

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ballot box to open the floodgates to millions of unvetted immigrants.

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Speaker 3: But you know what they did vote for.

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Speaker 2: In England, they voted for Brexit, and agree or disagree,

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they voted for it, and more and more all over

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Europe they're voting for political leaders who promised to put

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an end to out of control migration.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I happen to agree with a lot of these concerns,

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but you don't have to agree with me. I just

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think that people care about their homes, they care about

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their dreams, they care about their safety and their capacity

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to provide for themselves and their children, and they're smart.

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I think this is one of the most important things

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I've learned in my brief.

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Speaker 3: Time in politics.

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Speaker 2: Contrary to what you might hear a couple mountains over

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in Davos, the citizens of all of our nations don't

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generally think of themselves as educated animals or as interchangeable

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cogs of a global economy. And it's hardly surprising that

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they don't want to be shuffled about.

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Speaker 3: Or relentlessly ignored by their leaders.

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Speaker 2: And it is the business of democracy to adjudicate these

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big questions at the ballot box. I believe that dismissing people,

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dismissing their concerns, or worse yet, shutting down media, shutting

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down elections, or shutting people out of the political process

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protects nothing. In fact, it is the most surefire way

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to destroy democracy.

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Speaker 1: They're sore losers, right, They're sore losers. They're like, oh,

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this is the way forward, this is the way to

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do it. And then when the people say, well, actually no,

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we don't want to go that way, well, you don't

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know what you're talking about. It's for democracy. I have

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to protect democracy, so shut up. Like that's the argument

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that this German guy is going to make after jd

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and make memories that'll last a lifetime. So jd Vance

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goes in front of the European the Munich Security Conference,

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I believe it was in Munich, and he talks about uh,

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you know, having a from your voters, having you know,

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listening to the things that they want. That's the strength

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of a democracy for all you defenders of it, and

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he said, look, you know, I get it. You know,

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people have different ideas than you, and you want to

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do one thing and they want to do something else.

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 1: But if you win an election, if you're the elected leadership,

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and your citizens want to do something that you don't

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want to do, then like you need to listen to

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your citizens, or else you no longer have a mandate.

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And then he pointed out, look, if America can survive

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a decade of scolding from Greta Thunberg, then Europe can

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survive a few months of Elon Musk, he said, which

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I've always a pretty good line. And then he says,

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no democracy will survive if the people have their concerns, aspirations,

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their opinions, and they're pleased. Foref if they are told

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that these things are invalid right, or they are even

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unworthy of even being considered, your democracy will not survive.

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Speaker 2: Democracy rests on the sacred principle that the voice of

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the people matters. There's no room for firewalls. You either

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uphold the principle or you don't. Europeans, the people have

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a voice. European leaders have a choice and my strong

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belief is that we do not need to be afraid

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of the future. You can embrace what your people tell you,

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even when it's surprising, even when you don't agree, and

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if you do so, you can face the future with

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certainty and with confidence, knowing that the nation stands behind

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each of you.

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Speaker 3: And that, to me is the great magic of democracy.

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Speaker 2: It's not in these stone buildings or beautiful hotel It's

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not even in the great institutions that we have built

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together as a shared society. To believe in democracy is

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to understand that each of our citizens has wisdom and

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has a voice, and if we refuse to listen to

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that voice, even our most successful fights will secure very little.

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Speaker 1: Right, What is he like? What is the purpose of

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all of this? He is issuing them a warning, a

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warning that it seems like the American people have heeded

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with this last election, the support that ran through the

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numbers of the favorability of these things that Trump is

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doing sixty percent to prove. I would like it to

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be higher, and maybe it will go higher, that's possible.

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But he's telling them something that really shouldn't even have

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to be said, but apparently does. Right to return to

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the principles upon which this society, the civilization was founded,

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and you're not going to preserve this thing by ignoring

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or you know, being in direct opposition to these fundamental principles.

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And it's just to listen to your people. I mean,

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how absurd is this really when you think, step back

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and think for a moment, how absurd it must be

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to have to tell people in leadership, political leadership that

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claim to be the defenders of the democracy that that

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means you have to listen to your people. I don't

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know what you think this whole democracy thing is, but

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it means listening to the will of the people as

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expressed at the ballot box and not suppressing them when

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they tell you they think you're doing it wrong, because

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the people are telling you you're doing it wrong. And

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then the guy from Germany got up there, Boris Pistorius.

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We'll take a listen to Boris. Well, actually we'll hear

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a translator. All right. I hope you had a happy

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holiday season. But tell me if something like this happened

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maybe y'all are in the living room, you're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing,

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and then somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes?

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you know, well, I've been meaning too, but I just

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having gotten around to it. Look, don't let those priceless

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to a couple of messages. This is from Kevin. He says, Pete,

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I was listening to NPR over the weekend, and they

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of course put a slant on it, saying that somehow

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JD Vance was supporting right wing ideology, extremism, et cetera.

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free speech and listen to all sides. NPR feeding the

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lefties what they want to hear. Yeah, it I've become

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just so disappointed in NPR over the last twenty years.

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It just gets worse and worse, my goodness. I mean,

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every single story has the same slant. Every I mean

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there's a show where it's like, we welcome your participation

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and then you basically have to either call and leave

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a voicemail, which they of course will then screen out,

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so it says, you know, they're only going to put

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on the air a voicemail from somebody that has something

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that they want to hear, or you can send them

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an email and they'll read your email if it comports

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with what they want to say, the narrative they're trying

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to advance. It's very obvious. And every single show, every report,

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it's all filtered through every kind of you know, social

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justice matrix. Oh my gosh, it's just exhausting, and it's like, oh,

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something happened, but how did it impact you know, this

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indigenous lesbian trans person whatever. It's like, oh my gosh, real, Like,

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that's it can't just be about the thing that happened.

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It's always got to be through this prism. So but

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what you've just described there is is on brand for NPR.

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They're going to frame it a certain way to make

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their audience believe that they are correct in whatever notions

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they have of JD. Vance. You listen to what Vance

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says in this speech, and it is very clear that

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he's saying you need to listen to your citizens when

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they are telling you things. But see the NPR crowd

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and these European leaders, they don't want to hear what

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JD or the citizens are saying, so they have to

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reject what Vance is saying, and they can't argue on

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the merits. So they're going to say, oh, well, he's

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just trying to be a right winger or something like that.

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That's it's so juvenile. It is anti intellectual. Listen to

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what he is saying and then combat his arguments intellectually

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and logically, but they cannot do so because he is

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simply saying the thing that he thought everybody agreed that

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the point of a democracy is for the people to

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elect leaders that will then do the things that the

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people want them to do. And you know, when in

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the course of human events that the bonds between the

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government and the people have been severed because the government

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is not listening to the people, the people have a

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right to throw off that government. That's the point of

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all of it. Otherwise, just go get yourself a king Europe.

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Just go back to the way you guys used to

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do it, if that's what you wanted to want to do.

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In fact, hang on, I think I saw Yeah, I

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have a message here from Chip. Chip says, as far

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as I know, the US is the only country ever

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founded on an idea. A monarch or a pope seems

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to be the default position in Europe. Therefore, is it

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any surprise that you see what's happening in Europe? By

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the way, would you point out the difference between misinformation

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and disinformation? Well, uh, well, disinformation is the easy thing.

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So like when I'm talking, for example, I'm bringing you

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disinformation versus that information. No, I'm kidding. Misinformation. Misinformation is

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when information is not married, otherwise that would be missus information. No,

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that's not true either. Misinformation is basically when you're spreading

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stuff that you don't know is false, right. It really

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it goes to intent. Right. So if you are like,

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oh my gosh, I heard this story, and you start

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spreading the story around, but you don't know that the

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story is not true. You're just spreading it because you

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know for the likes and the clicks or whatever, or

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you like, uh, it's crazy too good to check, and

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so you don't check it and you just share it.

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It's misinformation. It's not true. Now. Disinformation is when the information,

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the lie is intentional and there is a purpose behind it.

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So there's a it's deliberately misleading so as to affect

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people's opinions. It's not done as to, oh my mistake,

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I made an error, you can make a correction whatever.

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That would be misinformation. Disinformation is when you purposefully lie

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about something and get other people to spread it. See,

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so like if I made up a lie, I would

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be engaged in disinformation. But if you heard that lie

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and you thought it was true and then you promulgated,

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you would be spreading misinformation. You would be misinforming. I

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would be disinforming. I hope that makes sense. Another email,

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This is from Susan, is there a difference between a

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democratic republic or a constitutional republic? Like, Look, I know

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a lot of people get hung up on this stuff,

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on these terms. I understand why, Okay, But honestly, like,

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if you go and look up like the founders, they

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oftentimes use these terms interchangeably because what they were talking

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about was a comparison between the monarchy and a government

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of the people, by the people for the people, a democracy, right,

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And they come from different routes. So like democracy is

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from Greek, that means rule by the people, right. Republic

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comes from Latin and that means public good or public

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affair that was used in Rome ancient Rome to mean

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the state or the country with reference to the Roman republic.

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And so you know, if you look up the dictionary

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definitions here, like they are very very similar, and people

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use them interchangeably. But I understand why people get upset

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when it's like, because I mean, democracy is you know,

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three wolves in a lamb voting on dinner. That's why. Like,

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the republic is the system that you create and you

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democratically elect people to then represent the voters in the

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republican system. Does that makes sense? Yeah, I don't know

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if I've described it well enough. But like I but

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I know people it trips a lot of people's trigger

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when they hear democracy versus republic, constitutional republic, right, the

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constitutional republic, like republic is a system. Constitutional means that

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we have a set of laws rules, and that's why

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that's how the system is governed is by these rules.

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Because you could, like the Islamic state in Iran, that's

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a republic too. Do you think they've got the same

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thing we do. No, No, they do not, because you

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can all say representative republic. All right, if you're listening

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to this show, you know I try to keep up

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with all sorts of current events, and I know you

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do too, And you've probably heard me say get your

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news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you

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detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed

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with ground News. It's an app and it's a website,

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and by whom. The blind spot feature shows you which

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but it also supports Ground News as they make the

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media landscape more transparent. This is from wall builders dot com.

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The former government entrusted to us by our founders was

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a republic, not a democracy. The founders had so a okay,

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so again like a system. A republic is a system.

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The constitutional republic is a system, but we employ democracy,

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the will of the voters, the people right to elect

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the representatives to the constitutional representative republic. Right, that's the idea.

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So one is a mechanism and one is the system.

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Because without that republic as the system, you would just

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have pure democracy, or is the founders called it mobocracy.

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That's the three wolves and a land voting on dinner.

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And you don't want that because it will burn itself out,

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So I think that one's a mechanism on a system.

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I hope that makes sense. That was in answer to

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I think it was Susie who asked me. Mike writes

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into Pete at thepetecleanershow dot com. I too, have been

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so disappointed in NPR over the past fifteen years. I

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think a publicly supported network such as NPR should be

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the station where we get an unbiased news report. I

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have my charities that I donate money to, and other

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than my charities, I get a little stingy. However, I

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would donate to any organization whose purpose was to stop

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the FEDS from giving money to NPR. Well. I don't

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know if Doge is taking donations, but I think they

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may be. They're looking at him, or the FCC is

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looking at him. I forget who let me play this

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because I said I would, and you know me, I'm

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all about paying off the teases. Here is the German

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Defense Minister, through an interpreter, Boris Pistorius, who took umbradge

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what's the German word for umbridge, Probably something with way

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too many consonants and not enough that outs.

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Speaker 3: But he.

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Speaker 1: Got up there at the Munich Security Conference and had

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a response to JD Vance's earlier speech.

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Speaker 4: I cannot just ignore what we heard before. I cannot

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not comment on the speech we heard by the US

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Vice president. We fight for your right to be against us.

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That is the motto, one of the mottos of the Bundespher,

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and it stands for our democracy, this democracy that was

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just called into question by the Hughes Vice President, and

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not just the German democracy, but Europe as a whole.

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He spoke of the annulment of democracy, and if I

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understood him correctly, he compares the condition of Europe with

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the condition that prevails in some auto authoritarian regimes. Ladies

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and gentlemen, this is not acceptable.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this applause.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's not acceptable, not accepted. I always feel like they're

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still flabbing. It's not intile. I feel like you should

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read like the German lines in that voice.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the point, dude, Like you saying it's

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not acceptable, it is acceptable. He's telling you something you

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don't want to hear, but that doesn't make it unacceptable.

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He's identifying a problem, he says. A vociferous minority in

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their countries will not automatically be right and they cannot

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decide what truth is.

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Speaker 4: It does not mean that anyone can say anything. And

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democracy must be able to defend itself against extremists that

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try to destroy it. I am puppy to live in

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Europe where this democracy is defended every day against its

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internal and external enemies. Definitely, and therefore I would like

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to explicitly contradict and oppose the impression that Vice President

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Vance suggested. He that our democracies oppressed and silence minorities.

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We not only know against whom we defend our countries,

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but also what we defend it for. It's for democracy,

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for freedom of opinion, for the rule of law, and

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the dignity of each and everyone.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and chapmen, hm oh, but were the true democracy

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must defend itself. That's what he said. What is he

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talking about? And what did JD. Vance talk about? He's

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talking about censorship. You guys are censoring opposition voices. And

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this is why NPR frames it has Oh he's defending

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the far right or whatever.

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Speaker 3: He's not.

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Speaker 1: He's saying, you cannot you should not suppress dissenting voices

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in your own society. You will not have a political

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mandate to govern if you do so. That's not what

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democracy is, right. You have to allow people to have

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their voices heard in the public square. But in Europe

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they believe, well, we can censor this stuff if it's offensive.

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We can censor this stuff if we believe that it

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is a threat to the democracy. Yeah, and then the

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world's stupidest reporter, Margaret Brennan, she weighs in on all

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of this and it is stupid.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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