Speaker 1: Mac at the screening of Beetlejuice? Were you unsettled sitting
Speaker 1: next to someone dressed as Beetlejuice?
Speaker 2: So you were you were very perturbed by this. He
Speaker 2: wasn't in my periff so I was not bothered by it. It
Speaker 2: didn't even really affect me whatsoever. But you you mentioned
Speaker 2: it a couple times.
Speaker 1: Well, it was the two of us, not only us,
Speaker 1: but it was a screening for the general audience. But
Speaker 1: there was a fella dressed I would say his costume
Speaker 1: and facial makeup better than Keaton in the movie, and
Speaker 1: he was sitting on the edge of his seat watching
Speaker 1: with such passion as if he had not seen the
Speaker 1: movie yet. And I'm like, this is kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Well, clearly, and there was also a person dressed up
Speaker 2: as Bob in the lobby as well. Clearly these two
Speaker 2: folks were paid by or put on by the production
Speaker 2: company who never runs because maybe we're taking photos with
Speaker 2: them as well.
Speaker 1: But I ask you this question, though, what movie would
Speaker 1: you like to see with someone dressed just as the
Speaker 1: main character sitting next to you? And then also the
Speaker 1: other way.
Speaker 2: Around, anything with Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's that's not that. But you want someone
Speaker 1: to dressed exactly like Sidney Sweeney. I'm saying more of
Speaker 1: a character.
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, whatever the name of that movie is coming
Speaker 2: up with her and Anna da Armis Eden or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: That one.
Speaker 1: Okay, have you ever seen a Star Wars movie with
Speaker 1: someone dressed as a Star Wars sitting next to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is We talked about this a little bit and
Speaker 2: it was weird because it was both the plebs and
Speaker 2: some of the folks that were press were dressed in
Speaker 2: were like Beetlejuice themed or in actual costumes. And to me, again,
Speaker 2: this goes along with the applause during movies.
Speaker 3: What is that for?
Speaker 2: Is that you did that just for an Instagram post?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really understand because you hypothetically and this is
Speaker 2: my whole thing with women and heels and the crazy
Speaker 2: shit they wear. You're just doing it to impress other
Speaker 2: women and other people. What's the real end game there? Well?
Speaker 1: I can speak as someone. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: done cosplay for a con or for a fan expo,
Speaker 1: but my wife one year went as wonder Woman, but
Speaker 1: specifically the scene where Wonder Woman wears a blue dress
Speaker 1: with the sword along her back, and she got so
Speaker 1: many compliments. She felt so good about herself. So I
Speaker 1: can see that as being the reason.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, fair enough, they just need a little
Speaker 2: little ego boost. I do recall that, And that was
Speaker 2: a nice little niche costume there. Yeah, I'll never do it.
Speaker 2: I'll never dress up for screening themed I like, if
Speaker 2: I go to see a comic book movie and I
Speaker 2: have a T shirt that references that character, I'll wear that.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to dress up like the character.
Speaker 1: One Go three, Yeah, job three, King of Queen Mill Street.
Speaker 2: Enter time, Goo, and I am Mac.
Speaker 1: And we are the hosts with the most Have I
Speaker 1: said that yet?
Speaker 2: Today we are discussing the latest entry into the BCU.
Speaker 3: That's right, Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the Beetlejuice Cinematic Universe. There, Goo, one
Speaker 2: might say beetle goose.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's okay, it's not that good, because that's how
Speaker 1: he spells his name. It's very similar.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 2: That is true, of course, if you are a listener
Speaker 2: to this program. We reviewed the first movie last week
Speaker 2: as part of prep for this and because Goo loves
Speaker 2: it so much. I do, and I believe you gave
Speaker 2: it thirty nine hod thirty nine.
Speaker 1: It's I just couldn't settle on forty that was my
Speaker 1: main thing. But it's it's in that upper tier of
Speaker 1: being a super creative, fun movie.
Speaker 2: And I was thirty four thirty five, really love the
Speaker 2: movie as a kid holds up pretty well, pretty memorable movie.
Speaker 3: So that's that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Go. This movie is projected to make over one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars on its opening weekend, which is more than
Speaker 2: the first movie made in its whole run. And to me,
Speaker 2: that's pretty surprising.
Speaker 1: Well, it's nostalgia playing into it. It's people who have
Speaker 1: over the years found these characters and loved these characters.
Speaker 1: It's also you know, it's an ip that people know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's true.
Speaker 2: I just you never hear anyone talk or reference Beetlejuice
Speaker 2: really unless it's you, and so I'm just so much
Speaker 2: talking to I'm just surprised at how many people coming
Speaker 2: out of the woodwork for this. This was made on
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar budget production budget, maybe double that,
Speaker 2: like you always say for advertising, But I think this
Speaker 2: is trackinging to make like probably five hundred million, if
Speaker 2: not more.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I also didn't be surprised if the advertising budget on
Speaker 1: this is more than the one hundred million yeap. I
Speaker 1: would tend to agree with because they are advertising the
Speaker 1: shit out of it.
Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of it these last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: I actually just this morning heard a radio ad goe yeah,
Speaker 2: and they said the movie movie was starring why No
Speaker 2: Ryder and Jenna Ortega zero mentioned of Michael Keaton or
Speaker 2: Katherine O'Hara, who O'Hara I would argue, is for sure
Speaker 2: the bigger star than WYOA.
Speaker 3: Ryder Jenna Ortega I get.
Speaker 1: I would also say for this movie, the standout star
Speaker 1: the one that I would point to as the best
Speaker 1: character in the movie. And obviously that's not what you're
Speaker 1: selling it on, but it is Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know Whyona has Stranger Things, and that's
Speaker 2: one of the biggest shows on the planet.
Speaker 3: But I think more people.
Speaker 2: Would argue that Katherine O'Hara and her run and Shit's Creek, Yes,
Speaker 2: makes her more famous than Whya from Strangers.
Speaker 1: And I would even say that whoever said, Okay, we
Speaker 1: need to let Catherine O'Hara be more like her Cara
Speaker 1: or from shitz Creek did the right thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree, that was a great move, and she
Speaker 2: is certainly a standout character in this movie.
Speaker 3: Gooes Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2: Beetlejuice is a PG thirteen comedy fantasy in a horror
Speaker 2: movie sub genres here dark comedy, dark fantasy, supernatural horror.
Speaker 2: I will say, in relation to the first movie, I
Speaker 2: would say it is much less frightening than the first movie.
Speaker 1: This is way more of a comedy and it's trying
Speaker 1: to be Yeah.
Speaker 2: It really leans into the fun and the high jinks
Speaker 2: of the possibilities of the afterlife, whereas the first movie
Speaker 2: just gave you a little bit that and it was
Speaker 2: more grounded, as grounded as a ghost story could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I would say, percentage wise, I think this
Speaker 1: is more like the animated series than it is the
Speaker 1: first movie.
Speaker 2: I will say, though, and we will talk about this
Speaker 2: obviously at length. I don't really know how you could
Speaker 2: make a sequel and it not be like this. You
Speaker 2: can make some changes, but I feel like this this
Speaker 2: was naturally the path they had to.
Speaker 1: Go there are a couple things, and it might be nitpicky,
Speaker 1: or it might just be me really preferring something from
Speaker 1: the first movie. That might take this one down a peg.
Speaker 1: But I think as a legacy sequel, as a you
Speaker 1: would call it a comedy legacy sequel, those are often terrible.
Speaker 3: This is pretty good, yeah, quite good. In the grand
Speaker 3: scheme of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Movies, I'd say it's up there in that's in part
Speaker 2: because twenty twenty four hasn't been great.
Speaker 1: I think it's in that batch of movies and that
Speaker 1: third tier for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well that's a nice big market tease.
Speaker 3: Goo.
Speaker 2: Yes, this movie has a run time of one hundred
Speaker 2: and four minutes. It honestly might have even been a
Speaker 2: little lighter of that, you know, taking credits out. The
Speaker 2: pacing was great. Pacing might be the best thing about
Speaker 2: this movie.
Speaker 1: Would you say that it's better pace than the first movie?
Speaker 3: For sure? For sure?
Speaker 1: Is? I don't know, Because I like the build up
Speaker 1: of the first movie. This one didn't really have a
Speaker 1: build up.
Speaker 2: No, you just jump you're in from just jump right
Speaker 2: in and there's no.
Speaker 3: Real wasted moments.
Speaker 2: It's you know, they jump around there's no real down time,
Speaker 2: there's no real bore here.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's buzzing' the whole time.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you could argue that some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that they think is fun might not be that fun.
Speaker 1: But it is them doing fun, it is them attempting fun. Though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be the difference between you and I
Speaker 3: on this one. Good.
Speaker 2: On Roddy T's this has seventy seven percent from the critics. Obviously,
Speaker 2: no audience score yet on Metacritic a sixty three, so
Speaker 2: they are generally liking this the general thumbs up compared
Speaker 2: to the first one just a little behind a eighty
Speaker 2: two percent and a seventy one, So the critics in
Speaker 2: general are liking it, just a little less than the
Speaker 2: first one. For the audience score there, I'm guessing this
Speaker 2: is gonna be around ninety percent.
Speaker 3: I think most people I.
Speaker 1: Would guess around there, unless it's you know, someone who's
Speaker 1: macabre and they're saying this is not as spooky as
Speaker 1: I member, because you know, the people that would do
Speaker 1: that are from Transylvania, right, it's just Draculas saying that.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, and they make a reference who
Speaker 3: did this?
Speaker 1: Who did this to my movie, Goude.
Speaker 2: This movie is written by the writing team of Alfred
Speaker 2: go Goff.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you would pronounce that, and Miles Malar.
Speaker 2: These two were behind Lethal Weapon four, Shanghai Noon and Knights,
Speaker 2: the team behind Smallville, Spider Man two, Herbie fully Loaded.
Speaker 2: That's the Lindsay Lowhand one.
Speaker 1: Also Michael Keaton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Mummy, Tomb of the Dragon
Speaker 2: Emperor by.
Speaker 1: Far the West one.
Speaker 3: What unless you include the Tom Cruise one in that conversation.
Speaker 2: Also the writing team on Wednesday obviously in upcoming here Goo,
Speaker 2: they're making Shanghai Don the third movie, so that's that's coming. Obviously,
Speaker 2: still writing Wednesday. The other writer on this movie is
Speaker 2: Seth Graham Smith. You would know him from Dark Shadows,
Speaker 2: That Terrible, Johnny Johnny.
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp and also Tim Burton. Yep, yep, question for you.
Speaker 1: I know that you might have already mentioned this. So
Speaker 1: Metacritic was a sixty three. Sixty three is pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixty three.
Speaker 2: I would say the sixties are good, The seventies are
Speaker 2: really good, eighties are great, perfect, the fifties are like
Speaker 2: the middle stuff in metacritics. Okay, also go Seth Graham Smith,
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter. I know that's one of your favorites.
Speaker 2: It is, and also the Lego Batman movie, so very
Speaker 2: interesting writing career for him. Upcoming for him is Now
Speaker 2: You See Me three and also an untitled Star Trek prequel.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so that's that's that.
Speaker 2: Of course, this movie is directed by Tim Burton, M Burton.
Speaker 2: We've discussed Burton at length his most recent stuff. His
Speaker 2: most recent movie prior to this was Dumbo, which sucked,
Speaker 2: and he's obviously doing.
Speaker 1: What But how about you say what he's known for,
Speaker 1: not just his recent shit.
Speaker 2: No, no, everyone knows all that. Everyone knows Tim Burton.
Speaker 2: If you're listening to a beetlejuice beatle.
Speaker 1: Juice, you know what's crazy. Anyway, I need to know
Speaker 1: the rules. Tim Burton just got his star on the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame. How do they determine when and
Speaker 1: why someone gets a star on the Walk of Fame.
Speaker 2: I feel like you got to be in the industry,
Speaker 2: on the scene for twenty twenty five years, and then
Speaker 2: from there they'll consider you.
Speaker 1: I see younger stars get their thing like every single week.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's it's almost that random, like they put,
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure, That's why I'm asking you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I'm sure because Burton probably should have had his done
Speaker 1: what like in the mid nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the end he's nine years into his career.
Speaker 1: He was always nine years old.
Speaker 2: So like like if you if you were to give
Speaker 2: m Night one four years in and then the next
Speaker 2: twenty years was gonna suck.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ed Knight's probably still gonna get one in
Speaker 1: like ten fifteen years. Gotta but like a bad, bad
Speaker 1: excuse bad example.
Speaker 2: Goose synopsis for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. After a family tragedy, three
Speaker 2: generations of the Deet's family return home to Winter River,
Speaker 2: still haunted by Beetlejuice. Livia's life is turned upside down
Speaker 2: when her teenage daughter Astroid accidentally opens the portal to
Speaker 2: the afterlife.
Speaker 1: So not to say what the tragedy is, I thought hilarious.
Speaker 1: I thought that tragedy might have been the funniest thing
Speaker 1: of the movie.
Speaker 3: YEP, so I was not privy to this information.
Speaker 2: If you didn't listen to our Beetlejuice episode, you might
Speaker 2: not be as well. The treatment of Charles Here, who
Speaker 2: was Delia's husband in the first one, played by Jeffrey Jones.
Speaker 3: Is that his name?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Apparently, he begs, well, we.
Speaker 1: Don't need we don't need to say what but give
Speaker 1: it a google.
Speaker 2: No, No, he's a he's a convicted pedo. So they
Speaker 2: had to confront that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if YouTube was you know, the blackballs
Speaker 1: for saying that, and.
Speaker 2: I thought they handled it well. They didn't completely avoid it.
Speaker 2: They turned the character into a punchline, which was I
Speaker 2: thought a great thing because you could not address his
Speaker 2: character at the very least.
Speaker 3: So I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, goot, this movie stars not Jeffrey Jones but Michael
Speaker 2: Keaton as Beetlejuice.
Speaker 3: Why not a rider? Oh fuck it up again?
Speaker 2: Why not a Rider as Lydia Deats, Catherine O'Hara as
Speaker 2: Delia Deats, Jenna Otaga, Justin Thareu as Rory, Willem Dafoe
Speaker 2: as Wolf Jackson, Monica Blucci is Dolores, and Arthur Conti
Speaker 2: as Jeremy. Of course, go as always well as most
Speaker 2: Tim Burton films are. It was scored by Danny Elfman
Speaker 2: and they brought back, obviously the iconic beetlejuice theme for
Speaker 2: the opening credits here, which I love. It's one of
Speaker 2: the best ones I think he's ever done. And once
Speaker 2: again go. They filmed some of the exterior shots here
Speaker 2: in Corinth, Vermont, which is the real town. The fictional
Speaker 2: town of course, it is Winter River, and the neighborhood
Speaker 2: scenes go where Tenor Ortega is sort of riding our
Speaker 2: bike around and we see some homes. Those are actually
Speaker 2: filmed in Melros mess.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. I like, good, I'm actually I'm pretty
Speaker 1: much there right now. That's where I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not too far.
Speaker 2: I will say this about Melrose, which is similar to
Speaker 2: Maldon real pain in they asked to get to no
Speaker 2: direct route, always traffic. You can't just take one road
Speaker 2: and get there.
Speaker 1: I'll also say this when it lists that Michael Keaton
Speaker 1: is the star of the movie more so than the
Speaker 1: first movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's for sure. That is definitely for sure.
Speaker 2: They feature him more and more consistently throughout. The percentage
Speaker 2: is maybe only a little bit higher, but he is
Speaker 2: more central to everything that's going on as well.
Speaker 1: And do you think that maybe he was toned down
Speaker 1: a bit because he is on the screen so much,
Speaker 1: and you know, his energy in the first movie might
Speaker 1: be too much if he's in for a half an
Speaker 1: hour or thirty five minutes.
Speaker 2: I just think, you know, over the years, hypothetically here
Speaker 2: in that universe, you know he's changed a little bit.
Speaker 2: I didn't have issue with Keaton. I had issue with Ryder.
Speaker 2: In Lydia, I had issue. I'm not saying like big issue.
Speaker 2: I just feel like the character didn't feel the same
Speaker 2: with Beatle Juice. He didn't have that same manic energy
Speaker 2: to him. And then for Lydia, it's almost like whoever
Speaker 2: wrote the character or even her kind of shaped it
Speaker 2: around the actress that she is now as opposed to
Speaker 2: who that character was in the first movie. And you
Speaker 2: can argue she's a teenager in the first movie. They'll evolve,
Speaker 2: but she's almost just too much Wanona Ryder in this.
Speaker 3: I don't agree on Beatle Jews.
Speaker 2: He felt mostly the same, but Lydia felt like, uh,
Speaker 2: and this is I honestly think this is more a
Speaker 2: why Nona than it is the writing. She was just
Speaker 2: playing Joyce Buyers. Yeah, that's who she was in this,
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 3: Didn't feel like Lydia at all.
Speaker 2: More more in the third act she felt more like that,
Speaker 2: but it didn't feel like Lydia deats. And that's probably
Speaker 2: my biggest complaint about this movie.
Speaker 1: Right, Like we said, people evolved in their life, people change,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that character wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Especially how they frame her life in this movie, how
Speaker 2: she's become this paranormal expert, and that's it's very central
Speaker 2: to what she's doing. Yeah, because you know, of course,
Speaker 2: the first movie for her story sort of ends in
Speaker 2: a high note. But it just didn't give for me.
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe we're being pessimistic here, but I also
Speaker 2: don't think, why not a writer is that good of
Speaker 2: an actress?
Speaker 1: How dare you?
Speaker 2: Maybe that's part.
Speaker 1: Of it too, how dare you?
Speaker 2: Uh good? We'll get into the gauntlet pretty quick here.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a ton to discuss about the story,
Speaker 2: and maybe that is to its But this movie, to me,
Speaker 2: was a ton of fun, more fun than I had expected,
Speaker 2: more fun than I had hoped for. I laughed throughout
Speaker 2: the whole thing. It was funnier, It was fun. This
Speaker 2: movie is just what fun factor is made for.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how much we can talk about
Speaker 1: the story outside of like the spoiler stuff in there,
Speaker 1: because it does spend way more time in the afterlife.
Speaker 1: I do think that some of the stuff in the
Speaker 1: real world does drag a little bit. But like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, I think a huge win for this movie
Speaker 1: is knowing that Catherine O'Hara is a fucking superstar and
Speaker 1: just let her do her thing right to her strengths.
Speaker 1: And they did that. They even had a great Easter
Speaker 1: egg from Shit's Creek in this movie that was hilarious also,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it in a second. But like
Speaker 1: Willem Dafoe understood the assignment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the newcomers were very strong here. Obviously you
Speaker 2: knew Jenna wor Taker was going to be. Willem Defoe's
Speaker 2: character was phenomenal. And I also love Justin Threau. I
Speaker 2: don't think you.
Speaker 1: I didn't like him at all, loved it. I thought
Speaker 1: that character sucked. I thought that was a one note,
Speaker 1: paper thin character.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I did not like it. And then my final note
Speaker 1: here it says carnitas, white rice, refried beans, Picko deigaio, guacamole,
Speaker 1: and hot sauce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you motherfucker all you do, all you do all
Speaker 2: day is eat burritos in the theater. I swear you're
Speaker 2: just here for the burritos.
Speaker 1: I hate this podcast. I hate going to the movies.
Speaker 1: I hate watching movies. Why do I do it so
Speaker 1: I can eat a burrito?
Speaker 3: Burritos?
Speaker 1: What shall we get into the gauntlet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it all right.
Speaker 1: Let's start with fun factor and if nothing else, the
Speaker 1: movie is fun and like I said earlier, it felt
Speaker 1: a lot like the animated series where it's the Misadventures
Speaker 1: of Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, extremely high fun factor, maybe the most
Speaker 2: fun movie of the year. They really leaned into the
Speaker 2: fun and silliness and the promises or expectations one might
Speaker 2: have for the afterlife stuff. But with that they also
Speaker 2: kind of got away from some of the horror and
Speaker 2: darkness that the first one provided.
Speaker 1: Satisfactor. I'm yes and no because I was satisfied by
Speaker 1: the humor in this movie, but I wasn't satisfied by
Speaker 1: two of the legacy characters that was given to me.
Speaker 1: I also, I love the tone of the original movie
Speaker 1: and the tone it isn't quite there with this one.
Speaker 2: I agree, the tones different Again, I disagree about Heaton's Beetlejuice,
Speaker 2: but I fully wholeheartedly agree about Wainona. But to me,
Speaker 2: and I said this leading up, all I really wanted
Speaker 2: out of this movie was spending more time the afterlife
Speaker 2: and the high jinks and the fun we could have there,
Speaker 2: and this delivered on that. So this was pretty satisfying
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: Also, Otho Carrots sign facing him over justin.
Speaker 3: Throw Otho is a great character.
Speaker 2: We need.
Speaker 1: We needed a little Otho here. We needed to figure
Speaker 1: that out.
Speaker 2: It would have been nice if we saw him at
Speaker 2: the beginning when we're when we're in Delia's art.
Speaker 1: Studio, or even say if he died, you know, we
Speaker 1: see him in the afterlife sure decorating her. That'd be
Speaker 1: a great little easter.
Speaker 3: That guy dead in real life.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not sure that's something that we should have
Speaker 1: looked up. Eh boor omitor not boring, but I wanted
Speaker 1: a Beatle build up and we didn't get the Beatle
Speaker 1: build up.
Speaker 3: Big bad Beetleborgs.
Speaker 2: Uh. The pacing is great in this movie. They don't
Speaker 2: waste time. I suppose you could make the argument that
Speaker 2: you kind of have is in that some of the
Speaker 2: stuff they.
Speaker 3: Attempt to do didn't quite hit. But there's no real
Speaker 3: waste of time in this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh, Equator, It's better than aqua Man for sure. Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: what's it called?
Speaker 2: Oh uh uh w w quait water Aworld, quarter World.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 1: It's better than water World.
Speaker 3: It is. It is better than, unfortunately better than the
Speaker 3: water World.
Speaker 1: Halloween. Will this movie wane over time? It's a spooky movie,
Speaker 1: so Halloween fits perfectly. But yes, maybe I'm not sure
Speaker 1: the staying power. Maybe, like I'm not sure the rewatchability
Speaker 1: of this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm having a tough time with this one because
Speaker 2: it is really fun, but it's probably a bit lesser
Speaker 2: of a story and more pizazz, more bells and whistles.
Speaker 2: And I feel like maybe the first one is more
Speaker 2: memorable because it was so different at the time, so
Speaker 2: it this one may not hold up as well.
Speaker 1: So this actually works well with the next one here,
Speaker 1: which is pants Tense City Excite, bike Mania. And I
Speaker 1: don't think this movie, outside of a tweet, truly has
Speaker 1: that Beetlejuice one pants tent moment of its showtime or
Speaker 1: him you know, step right up, step right up like
Speaker 1: that big Beatle Juice pants tent. It doesn't really have that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could argue that kind of final scene is
Speaker 2: what is what they built it up for, like kind
Speaker 2: of what you're looking for and talking about there, but
Speaker 2: it probably wasn't as good as the couple scenes in
Speaker 2: the first movie. Yeah. I guess this is a spoiler
Speaker 2: or some but there's a twist in this movie that
Speaker 2: I didn't see coming and they foreshadowed it and I
Speaker 2: thought it was great.
Speaker 1: I was really so to another level mad at myself
Speaker 1: when it happened. I'm like, it was so fucking obvious.
Speaker 1: Really cute idiot, you dummy, you stupid idiot. When life
Speaker 1: gives you plemings, you make plemonade and Mac. You have
Speaker 1: two candidates here, and I'm gonna go with Catherine O'Hara,
Speaker 1: who I think truly she's in more of the movie
Speaker 1: and I think that she does carry the comedy of
Speaker 1: the movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's more of a main character, which is why
Speaker 2: I don't know she quite qualifies.
Speaker 3: But she did every scene she was in.
Speaker 2: She was great and to me, like she wasn't as
Speaker 2: insane as Morris shit is It was like dialed Batchel's.
Speaker 1: Yes, Delia and Mora.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that if you're looking for a new
Speaker 2: character that just popped in here and there. Williem Dafoe
Speaker 2: was so good in this movie. Made me laugh almost
Speaker 2: every time he talked.
Speaker 1: Either Willem Dafoe or William Dafoe's secretary. Yes, she was
Speaker 1: just from coffee and she had one line. That's it.
Speaker 1: Every time she was great. Keep you got to keep
Speaker 1: it real, Max credit Union.
Speaker 2: I got to give Tim Burton credit here, and I
Speaker 2: have been a somewhat vocal critic of him over the
Speaker 2: last few years. Him pulling off a sequel thirty six
Speaker 2: late thirty six years later is truly impressive, especially considering
Speaker 2: it's a comedy sequel and that almost never happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you do have to put the
Speaker 1: spotlight on the word comedy because comed legacy sequels are
Speaker 1: generally terrible. So this movie deserves credit for not being terrible.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't think it's the greatest thing in
Speaker 1: the world, it still deserves credit for being a very
Speaker 1: watchable movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that respect, it's pretty fucking high on the
Speaker 2: list of comedy sequels.
Speaker 3: It's it's up there for one of the.
Speaker 1: Best comedy sequels in general. You're right, and I would
Speaker 1: even so. I think legacy sequel wise, like Top Gun
Speaker 1: Maverick is like, nothing's gonna touch that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sort of that set the new bar, right.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed Twisters. You didn't like it as much.
Speaker 3: It was good.
Speaker 1: I think that the reason why I might come in
Speaker 1: lower on this is just my love for the first movie.
Speaker 1: As like Twister, you remember it. No one loved the
Speaker 1: first Twister. Yeah, people do love the first Top Gun.
Speaker 1: I don't really care for the first Top Gun.
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 1: So when you get something as good as Top Gun Maverick,
Speaker 1: you're like, what in the world, how did they do this?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: In the hell?
Speaker 1: For those of you tarty to the Mac and Goo party,
Speaker 1: we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system,
Speaker 1: and Mac I once again Catherine O'Hara is the best,
Speaker 1: and they let her kill it. Willem Dafoe understood the assignment.
Speaker 1: But then I'm not super disappointed in Beetlejuice. I think
Speaker 1: that Keaton as Beetlejuice just doesn't have the same energy
Speaker 1: that he does in the first one. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: the same aura as well. Where Juice, thank you, He
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same aura as well. Where in the
Speaker 1: first one he's feared by everybody, by ghosts, by humans alike,
Speaker 1: in this one he's just kind of there. He's kind
Speaker 1: of hanging out, and no one has an issue with that.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious. Was the first one overdone? Was this
Speaker 1: one not done enough? Who knows, but Lydia dits not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that Winona Ryder as
Speaker 1: this character is the same person, whether that's written, acted,
Speaker 1: or directed that way. I wanted more beetlejuice hauntings because
Speaker 1: that also in the first one. I love those. I
Speaker 1: love the stop motion haunt things, especially that final one.
Speaker 1: And then I thought this was too soundtrack reliant, as
Speaker 1: opposed to the first movie, where they really played with
Speaker 1: the score and they let Danny Elfman do more with it.
Speaker 1: I felt like they didn't do that as much in
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 2: Some of that might be budget related in relation to
Speaker 2: that first one and now possibly.
Speaker 1: So this is really tough for me because I do
Speaker 1: think that it's a pretty good comedy sequel. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a good comedy sequel. When you look at comedy
Speaker 1: sequels in general, you gotta look at a Bell Curve
Speaker 1: Legacy sequel. Wise, i'd put it below the some of
Speaker 1: the recent great ones that have come out. I wasn't wowed.
Speaker 1: I think that this one didn't have the same creativity
Speaker 1: that you sit back and go, WHOA, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: This was I kept I've always said, now, that's what
Speaker 1: I call music when I'm watching a movie. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wanted them to do like updated creative stuff with
Speaker 1: this movie, and I don't think they did that. Twenty
Speaker 1: nine Hot Ducks.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, all right, wow, Yeah, you are lower.
Speaker 3: On it than I.
Speaker 2: And that's almost a full ten dogs lower than the
Speaker 2: first one for you. Yes to me. Gu the new
Speaker 2: additions were all great, to which degree you can discuss
Speaker 2: or Taga, Threau and Defoe. Really enjoyed each of them
Speaker 2: and what they brought to the movie. Again, didn't like
Speaker 2: the portrayal of Lydia deets here, However, I did like
Speaker 2: the way they framed her and what she became. I
Speaker 2: liked that she's one of those paranormal TV investigators that
Speaker 2: hit for me.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Again, it really just felt like she was playing Joyce Buyers.
Speaker 2: Maybe you could argue Joyce Byers is a riff off
Speaker 2: of Lydia in the first place, but that's an argument
Speaker 2: for a different day. The treatment of Charles Deets and
Speaker 2: this was perfect. Yeah, you know, the whole the way
Speaker 2: his grave is shaped. Once I finally realized that twenty
Speaker 2: minutes later that I should have.
Speaker 1: I was going to point it out to you in
Speaker 1: the theater, like when he first saw it. I was
Speaker 1: in a point to be like, hey, you that, but
Speaker 1: I was like, no, Mac probably has eyes.
Speaker 3: I was too.
Speaker 2: I think I was too concentrated on the translucent aspect
Speaker 2: to understand the shape.
Speaker 1: Because one hour in Mac you know, touched my shoulder
Speaker 1: and said, hey, did you notice this, and I'm like, yes.
Speaker 3: No, I said, I just noticed. I know you had already.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Also, there is a choir version of Dayo in here,
Speaker 2: the Harry Belafond that was really f Yes, that fucking
Speaker 2: killed me.
Speaker 3: That was amazing.
Speaker 2: So that's all tied into the Charles stuff. We haven't
Speaker 2: talked about this yet. Monica Balucci another addition to this movie.
Speaker 2: I guess you could argue she was the worst edition.
Speaker 2: Her whole storyline wasn't great. They just sort of used
Speaker 2: it as a vehicle for Beetlejuice's motivations.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that was fine. It was good enough but
Speaker 3: not great.
Speaker 1: But I did like the backstory of the two. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a pretty funny scene.
Speaker 2: That was good. That was definitely good, Gou. I thoroughly
Speaker 2: enjoyed the twist in this movie. Again, maybe we are
Speaker 2: two stupid idiots that should have picked up on it,
Speaker 2: but to me, it's what took the movie to like
Speaker 2: another level. And really it was like a ooh, no
Speaker 2: shit type like.
Speaker 1: I almost tore the chair in front of me and
Speaker 1: threw it off the wall. I was so mad at myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was nice.
Speaker 2: And if that's a spoiler for you, I apologize. But whatever,
Speaker 2: it's a fucking it's a sequel coming out thirty six
Speaker 2: years later.
Speaker 1: Go.
Speaker 3: This movie was a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 2: I think it's the only real way, the only real
Speaker 2: path they could have made this sequel.
Speaker 3: The pacing was great.
Speaker 2: I laughed. I was surprised, the characters were enjoyable. The
Speaker 2: afterlife stuff was exactly what I wanted.
Speaker 3: I have this at.
Speaker 2: Thirty four hot dogs. Gu for reference, I gave the
Speaker 2: first one thirty four to thirty five, so maybe just
Speaker 2: a smidge under but a completely different journey, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: It's my number five movie of twenty twenty four. It's
Speaker 2: it's up there, and again, I think twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: hasn't been great. Uh, but this is in the conversation
Speaker 2: in that top five area.
Speaker 1: Shall we spoil?
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Spoiler spoiler spoiler, Let's get to the death of Charles.
Speaker 1: I love that they had the false death boat two
Speaker 1: or three times and then it ended with him being
Speaker 1: eaten by a shark.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I loved the claymation part too, so there
Speaker 2: was no wondering who's gonna play this guy or is
Speaker 2: that so?
Speaker 3: And so they just went with a claymation thing. And
Speaker 3: then in the.
Speaker 2: Afterlife he's a headless character, which was great. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: treatment of that character was absolutely perfect. But goot, yes,
Speaker 2: the thing we need to discuss I think we've been
Speaker 2: teasing here.
Speaker 3: The twist.
Speaker 2: The twist in this movie is that the boy that
Speaker 2: Jenna Ortega meets Jeremy.
Speaker 3: He's a really bad guy.
Speaker 1: He is a.
Speaker 2: Really bad guy, and he's a ghost. He's a ghost.
Speaker 3: We're introduced to him.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe in the beginning of the second act
Speaker 2: and he is this sort of love interest of Astroid.
Speaker 2: You know, they're like sixteen ish in that area, and
Speaker 2: he seems like he's a nice boy, a bit of
Speaker 2: a nerd, dork off the beaten path the way Asterroid
Speaker 2: and the Deats is are. Yeah, so they connect and
Speaker 2: you're sort of I will say this, I thought first
Speaker 2: before we got the twist, the whole little love story
Speaker 2: thing between them was stupid. I didn't really care for it.
Speaker 2: But and the twist ramps it up where you and
Speaker 2: Jenna Ortega Astroid find out at the same time that
Speaker 2: he's a ghost. It was foreshadowed, however, because he had
Speaker 2: the handbook for the recently Deceased, and he says he
Speaker 2: bought it like a yard sale, and then you're thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe he has the Maitland's book. But then you're like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, once you think it through, that book
Speaker 2: only exists in the afterlife for four dead people. So
Speaker 2: that was the giveaway that you and I missed.
Speaker 1: Yes, when I was so mad, I'm like, he had
Speaker 1: the book and he kept all of his albums were
Speaker 1: from the nineties too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's it's so true. It was really
Speaker 2: well done. It's just it took it up to another level.
Speaker 2: And on top of that, you know his whole plot
Speaker 2: because he's a bad guy, it turns out he's not.
Speaker 2: He didn't die by accident. He killed his parents, and
Speaker 2: as a result of the police pursuit, he breaks his
Speaker 2: neck and dies, and so you're like, oh shit, that's
Speaker 2: a secondary thing here. And the third thing, which is
Speaker 2: maybe was a surprise for some, but this was overly foreshadowed,
Speaker 2: is the father of Astroid had died previously, and they
Speaker 2: talked about it a couple of times. We knew he
Speaker 2: was gonna play, so.
Speaker 1: You knew he was gonna pop up in the Afterlife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I sort of liked how they handled that
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Did you like the scene where Beetlejuice stamps the passport
Speaker 1: with a no fucking way.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That, Although you think about it, Beetlejuice equally, if not
Speaker 1: worst guy. So he's there playing the hero, but he's
Speaker 1: also a terrible person. Ghosts.
Speaker 2: There must be a list of no nos for the
Speaker 2: afterlife people, because he gets sent like straight to hell.
Speaker 1: There, I know, But Beetlejuice, I think at the end
Speaker 1: of the first movie was trying to do the same
Speaker 1: thing to Lydia. No, he's just trying to marry her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to get himself like he was willing to do anything
Speaker 1: to get out of the afterlife, much like this.
Speaker 2: As he's doing again in this one, which was fine,
Speaker 2: But the whole soul swapping and leaving a live person
Speaker 2: in the afterlife, that's probably a no no.
Speaker 1: But Beatle Jew's probably said to himself, Oh, I should
Speaker 1: have tried that. Yeah, those two are common Pete, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They're the same.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think Beetlejuice murdered anyone other than the
Speaker 2: woman that was killing him.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm I feel like Beatle just might
Speaker 1: have murdered. He was a grave robber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in his regular life though, I don't think
Speaker 2: he actually murdered anyone.
Speaker 3: And this person murdered two people.
Speaker 1: And anyone go to Beetlejuice Wikipedia and let us know
Speaker 1: if Beetlejuice murdered.
Speaker 2: Uh goot.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Another really funny thing in here was Danny DeVito playing
Speaker 2: a janitor in the afterlife who had apparently killed himself
Speaker 2: by drinking like anti freezer.
Speaker 1: And he was playing fucking Frank Reynolds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. He was playing in Frank Reynolds slash Penguin.
Speaker 3: It was a combination of.
Speaker 1: Just drinking and just dribbling all over himself.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Another little thing, which was a small thing, but but
Speaker 2: was a thing.
Speaker 3: The first one.
Speaker 2: The realtor for the home is Jane Butterfield, and this
Speaker 2: one her daughter, Jane Butterfield, also a realtor and also
Speaker 2: named her daughter Jane. So that's a that's a nice
Speaker 2: little tie and I enjoyed as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so, like I said, there's there's no
Speaker 1: big build up to Beatlejuice in this He's just in it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I kind of like that build up.
Speaker 1: I like them to kind of like put like the
Speaker 1: the breadcrumbs out there for us to play with, and
Speaker 1: they didn't really do that. He's just there working in
Speaker 1: the afterlife with his bioaxicism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a fair criticism.
Speaker 2: H Do you want to run through the timeline here quickly?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bounce around here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead and do it all right.
Speaker 2: So the whole, you know, the whole thing that makes
Speaker 2: this go is the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 3: We see.
Speaker 2: Lydia is a paranormal investigator slash TV personality Delia, her stepmother,
Speaker 2: is a successful artist.
Speaker 3: Lydia's daughter, Asterid.
Speaker 2: Is in like a high school, a boarding school type
Speaker 2: of school, and presumably we think Ashid's about the same
Speaker 2: age as Lydia. In the first one, Charles Deets dies
Speaker 2: parishes in that plane crash slash shark attack, and that's
Speaker 2: how everyone gets together. Delia calls Lydia, they both go
Speaker 2: and pick up Astroid. Rory's there too, and Rory is
Speaker 2: Lydia's boyfriend but also like manager and producer type of thing. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: in the after Life, very early on, we are introduced
Speaker 2: to Dolores, who puts herself back together and she's hell
Speaker 2: bent on getting revenge on Beetlejuice, her former lover of
Speaker 2: six hundred years ago, who she was trying to steal
Speaker 2: the soul of, but then Beetlejuice acts murdered her and
Speaker 2: then they both ended up dying. We also are then
Speaker 2: immediately reintroduced back to Beetlejuice. He's running an expanded bioexorcism
Speaker 2: operation from the first movie, and now Bob and all
Speaker 2: those headshrinkers are working for him. We are then immediately
Speaker 2: introduced to Wolf Jackson, a deceased actor who is now
Speaker 2: playing an investigator in the afterlife, and every scene he
Speaker 2: was in was very, very funny.
Speaker 3: Dafoe does a great job here.
Speaker 2: Back in the real world, we go to the Beetlejuice
Speaker 2: House where Charles was still living, and they're cleaning it
Speaker 2: out and they're gonna have the funeral and wake there
Speaker 2: the services, and this is where Asterid starts to explore
Speaker 2: ask questions about the house, the history of YadA YadA.
Speaker 1: I do like how they draped the house in a
Speaker 1: black curtain.
Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, that was pretty good that fabric.
Speaker 2: There, of course, Astroid and Lydia get into a little tiff.
Speaker 2: Astrod takes off starts riding her bike around town and
Speaker 2: this is where she crashes in to the tree that
Speaker 2: Jeremy is hanging out in. It's it's I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was fine the way they introduced it.
Speaker 3: It worked.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought she was gonna die at first, because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she also hates Rory, which is a big thing,
Speaker 2: and longs for her deceased father father, which is the
Speaker 2: two things really motivating her in this movie, Astroid and
Speaker 2: Jeremy hit it off immediately. They're both the same type
Speaker 2: of weird and they plan to hang out on Halloween,
Speaker 2: which is coincidentally when Rory wants to marry Lydia. He
Speaker 2: proposes to her during the services in a focctic kind
Speaker 2: of way, and that's what causes a little rift there.
Speaker 2: The whole time, By the way, Lydia has been seeing
Speaker 2: Beetlejuice everywhere. She's kind of somewhat hallucinating, and it's sort
Speaker 2: of leading to their inevitable reunion, and Rory thinks she's
Speaker 2: out of her mind, batshit crazy until they go up
Speaker 2: into the attic and he says, Beatle, just Beatle, just Beatlejuice,
Speaker 2: and he thinks or he has the run in and
Speaker 2: thought it was a dream. Yeah, that whole thing. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Beatlejuice has been running slash hiding from Dolores, and Wolf
Speaker 2: Jackson has been simultaneously searching for Dolores. So that's what's
Speaker 2: going on in the afterlife where we finally get to
Speaker 2: the twist here, Jeremy is in fact a ghost again
Speaker 2: foreshadowed by the Book of the Recently Deceased, and has
Speaker 2: been dead for like twenty five years and Astrid, who
Speaker 2: didn't believe in ghosts and so the audience would never
Speaker 2: really think she would see a ghost, has in fact
Speaker 2: been seeing Jeremy this whole time because she has the
Speaker 2: same gift as her mother, which I again, this is
Speaker 2: where this is like in the beginning of the third act,
Speaker 2: this is where really things ramp up and what makes
Speaker 2: the movie takes the movie from like decent to pretty good.
Speaker 1: I felt like also, I had never in the first
Speaker 1: movie considered it to be a gift more just along
Speaker 1: the lines of like those who believe can see.
Speaker 2: I think it's more of a gift.
Speaker 1: No, I mean how it definitely is a gift. But
Speaker 1: when yeah, you're right the first movie, I was never like, oh,
Speaker 1: she has a gift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was sort of a creative liberty they definitely
Speaker 2: took in this one. Again, we will find out shortly
Speaker 2: after that Jeremy kills his parents. He was a really
Speaker 2: bad guy and in order to once Lydia puts two
Speaker 2: and two together because of Jane Butterfield, Lydia enlists the
Speaker 2: help of Beetlejuice to save Astrod, but again not before
Speaker 2: she agrees to sign a contract to wet him again
Speaker 2: or to try to wet him a second time, and
Speaker 2: this is also like an easy way for him to
Speaker 2: escape Dolores, which is motivating him. So the two go
Speaker 2: into the afterlife to pursue Astrod and Jeremy. While we're there,
Speaker 2: we meet Richard, the deceased father, and you get a
Speaker 2: nice couple scenes with Richard and Richard's the one that
Speaker 2: helps them escape the afterlife, and we also in the
Speaker 2: afterlife learn about the soul train, which is where people
Speaker 2: go to the Great Beyond.
Speaker 3: And I really enjoyed that take on it.
Speaker 1: I guess that you could really outside of getting that
Speaker 1: little backstory of the plague with Beetlejews, you didn't need
Speaker 1: Dolores in this movie at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, she just sort of She's just hanging in the background.
Speaker 2: She exists to like scare Beetlejuice and motivate Beetlejuice on
Speaker 2: a secondary level, which was fine.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it was okay.
Speaker 1: But he also didn't really need that motivation.
Speaker 2: I guess he maybe didn't, But then it would have
Speaker 2: been tough to introduce him earlier on in the movie
Speaker 2: if you didn't do that, So I see why they
Speaker 2: did it. I loved the use of the Beg's tragedy
Speaker 2: by the way, I love the Beg's in general, so
Speaker 2: that that really was music.
Speaker 1: We get it.
Speaker 2: They all help save her. The Juice sends Jeremy to Hell.
Speaker 2: I guess is that where he ended up. He flames,
Speaker 2: and then they get back into the real world with
Speaker 2: the help of Richard, where it's about time to marry Rory.
Speaker 2: So they go to the church and then of course
Speaker 2: Beetlejuice shows up shortly after, and this is where the
Speaker 2: Beetlejuice high jinks commences, and he's fucking with everyone in
Speaker 2: the church. He gets Wolf Jackson and the cops to
Speaker 2: freeze and you get what was the song they were singing.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the song is. I will
Speaker 1: say that I think like my favorites kind of gag,
Speaker 1: like haunting gag is him sucking the people into their phones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was pretty and I wanted.
Speaker 1: More of stuff like that, because yes, the like the
Speaker 1: musical stuff. That's funny to a point, but it also
Speaker 1: went on way too long.
Speaker 3: It came back around for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it did. I don't know, fair enough,
Speaker 1: I wanted more of him doing new haunting, not just
Speaker 1: doing dance sequences.
Speaker 2: That's fair, But obviously the most iconic scene from the
Speaker 2: first one is the dance.
Speaker 1: I know that, so like I, I understand why they
Speaker 1: did it, but I think it was too long, There
Speaker 1: was too much of it, and you also need to
Speaker 1: have him doing some creative stuff.
Speaker 3: That's a fair criticism. It didn't bother me as much
Speaker 3: as it clearly bothered you. Uh.
Speaker 2: So we're in this church. Obviously all the storylines are
Speaker 2: coming together. Dolores is there, Wolf Jackson is there, and
Speaker 2: then of course Astrod finds that book conveniently there in
Speaker 2: the church. She summons the sandworm who devours Dolores and Rory,
Speaker 2: and then we learned I guess she had time to
Speaker 2: read as well, that the contract Lydia signs with Beetlejuice's
Speaker 2: null and void. Lydia finally sacks up and sends Beetlejuice
Speaker 2: away forever the end. Successful movie. I thought it was
Speaker 2: success a little bizarre. Uh. They slightly addressed that Katherine
Speaker 2: o' harris dead, but like, will she be able to
Speaker 2: uh like go to the places they're going or she's
Speaker 2: stuck in uh winter river because she died.
Speaker 1: There, No, she's in heaven. Her and Charles went on
Speaker 1: the soul train.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, they go on the soul train at
Speaker 2: the end, So that you're right. There was a good
Speaker 2: send off there.
Speaker 1: I do like her, like her death. I think that
Speaker 1: was that was pretty good. It was.
Speaker 3: It was very fitting of the character.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then I like her getting her sent off.
Speaker 2: Actually, her best line might have been I died of embarrassment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I laughed at that. Yeah. Also, the the
Speaker 1: Charles shark fin, that was the thing that you pointed
Speaker 1: out to me with the.
Speaker 3: Great Yeah, his crave is shafe like a shark fin.
Speaker 2: And I guess that was so distracted by the translucent
Speaker 2: aspect of it and trying to read the writing on
Speaker 2: the grave which said like father, grandfather and like bird Watcher,
Speaker 2: which was pretty good that it took me like three
Speaker 2: scenes to realize it was actually a stark.
Speaker 1: Although I will say so, Tim Burton has said that
Speaker 1: he will not do a sequel to this movie, but
Speaker 1: if it makes what six hundred million, seven hundred million, it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna make at least five I think if if you
Speaker 2: subscribe to all these tracking in one hundred million, the
Speaker 2: first weekend, and it's gonna have worldwide money, which it
Speaker 2: didn't happen.
Speaker 1: And we'll also get to in one second, what the
Speaker 1: schedule is coming up for fucking movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point too.
Speaker 1: Is this allowed to be played in China?
Speaker 2: This is gonna have a runway of at least all
Speaker 2: of September. Yes, and because Halloween is at the end
Speaker 2: of October, it's probably gonna have a good two month
Speaker 2: run at the box off.
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, I could see this making seven to
Speaker 1: fifty eight hundred million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: So does Warner Brothers say we want another sequel to this?
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, do they do it? Say
Speaker 1: without Beetlejuice, do they try and find a way to
Speaker 1: bring a Harah back and have herd do some of
Speaker 1: the funner stuff in the afterlife? Do they focus more
Speaker 1: on the afterlife? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Three beetle three juice just doesn't quite have the ring.
Speaker 1: You call it beetlejuice, beetlejuice, beetlejuice, You just add a
Speaker 1: beetle just at the end.
Speaker 2: We free beetle Free juice is clearly the way they're
Speaker 2: gonna go but his story's over, right, So what why
Speaker 2: would you? You can't go back down the Beetlejuice Road.
Speaker 1: I don't think I know, but this Beetlejuice Road felt
Speaker 1: like him as a character felt a little forced too.
Speaker 3: Are they gonna furios it?
Speaker 2: You know? So and so Astrod a Beetlejuice story.
Speaker 1: Hopefully, hopefully that's what they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And Maxak could be anything. And like I just teased,
Speaker 1: we have quite a cold stretch of movies coming out.
Speaker 2: We have one that I'm really looking forward to.
Speaker 1: I will guess it in one second, but okay, So
Speaker 1: Beatlejuice is out this weekend, Beatle Juice, Beetlejuice, and I
Speaker 1: think it has a possible eight to nine week run
Speaker 1: of dominance here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it may, especially considering the the early reviews on
Speaker 2: Joker Too.
Speaker 1: Upcoming this next week we have Killers Games starring Sophia Boutella,
Speaker 1: Dave Batista, and Tom Clementief, Speak No Evil with James McAvoy,
Speaker 1: and then My Old Ass with Aubrey Plaza. I do
Speaker 1: want to see My Old Ass, but not to like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to rush to the theater to see it.
Speaker 2: If they promise Bear Aubrey Plaza ass I will see.
Speaker 1: It then the following week, September twentieth. This is a
Speaker 1: pretty good weekend for movies, and that is Wolf's and
Speaker 1: Transformers one. Now, Transformers one will do well at the
Speaker 1: box office, but I'm not sure beyond like like it
Speaker 1: might win its opening weekend, but will it be sustainable.
Speaker 2: I think it'll do well for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: On the flip side, I don't know how hall well
Speaker 2: Wolfs will do. But that's the movie I'm really looking
Speaker 2: forward to most over these.
Speaker 1: Next thing is that going straight to Apple TV. Plus,
Speaker 1: I think it's you.
Speaker 2: You actually might be right. I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 2: he gets a couple of weeks at the theater. Though
Speaker 2: this is of course the clooney brat movie that it
Speaker 2: looks very promising.
Speaker 1: Then the next movie up that I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I'm so fucking I'm so confused by Megalopolis.
Speaker 2: Adam Driver, like twenty years in the making. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They had that big advertising thing where they made up
Speaker 1: fake quotes saying that fucking Coppola is an idiot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Francis Ford Coppola has been trying to make this
Speaker 2: movie for like thirty years, so I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: That can't be a good thing.
Speaker 1: On the fourth of October, you have Joker fare A do.
Speaker 3: More like Joker. Pooh, Follia Pooh.
Speaker 1: There you go. I was gonna say you should say
Speaker 1: the word folly in there too. It's French. I am interested.
Speaker 1: On the eleventh of October for Saturday Night, which is
Speaker 1: a movie about the first episode of first episode of
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 2: This is promising. This could be really good. It's not
Speaker 2: gonna do well at the theater though.
Speaker 1: I should have looked up the actors, but the people
Speaker 1: that are playing Chevy Chase, Gilda Radner and John Belushi
Speaker 1: are like dead on.
Speaker 3: They crushed the casting for sure.
Speaker 1: On the eighteenth of October, we have Smiled too.
Speaker 3: I still don't seen the first one.
Speaker 2: The first one did better than they anticipated, so they'll
Speaker 2: they'll be a little bit of an audience there. And
Speaker 2: that is the week before Halloween as well, so there'll
Speaker 2: be a bit of an appetite for it.
Speaker 1: And then on the twenty fifth of October, and this
Speaker 1: will win the box office this week, and that is
Speaker 1: Venom Last Dance.
Speaker 2: That's gonna make a lot of money and buy a lot,
Speaker 2: so maybe like seventy millionna it's gonna win the first
Speaker 2: week and then probably get terrible reviews and everyone that
Speaker 2: wanted to see it went and started the first week.
Speaker 3: So I don't that could be really bad.
Speaker 1: So I think solo episodes out of the next two
Speaker 1: months of movies is Wolf's Joker falle Ad, and then Last.
Speaker 3: Dance and possibly Saturday Night.
Speaker 2: Possibly Megalopolis is really bad, maybe we should do that
Speaker 2: as well. And if Transformers one happens to be really good,
Speaker 2: maybe we should do I.
Speaker 1: Will see Transformers one for you, Okay, Well, my son
Speaker 1: also really wants to see it, so I'll probably just
Speaker 1: see it with him, all right, Mac, Where can the
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Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: I think we should. I should we push our YouTube more.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I don't want you to do
Speaker 2: any more work.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not doing I am doing my
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Speaker 2: Also, if you missed it, we were on two Dork episodes.
Speaker 3: The last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: We did the top fifty movies of all time and
Speaker 2: the list came out pretty good. I'm not embarrassed by it,
Speaker 2: so that's good. There are three movies on the list.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. I think I'm actually gonna now
Speaker 2: go and watch because they're officially on that list.
Speaker 1: I'm also I can't believe that our number one movie,
Speaker 1: I think you and I had the same number one movie,
Speaker 1: was not on one person's list lunacy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the expectation or the explanation was maybe worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He said it's more of a New England thing.
Speaker 1: People from New England really like it, but no one
Speaker 1: outside of New England likes it.
Speaker 3: That was for a different movie.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about that, all right, so check
Speaker 1: us out next week. We will do a news dump
Speaker 1: and then we need to brainstorm ideas because there's nothing
Speaker 1: coming out anymore, Okay, And also I might lose the
Speaker 1: joker bet. We said it at five hundred million. I
Speaker 1: went above, you went below. And I do think it'll
Speaker 1: win its opening week. But if it's not good, people
Speaker 1: aren't gonna see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the run up here. It just debuted at
Speaker 2: Venice last week or this past week, and there's been
Speaker 2: some middling reviews. I haven't seen one. Per shouldn't claim
Speaker 2: that it's a great movie, and that's gonna really really
Speaker 2: hurt it.
Speaker 1: I heard someone say I went goo goo over a Gaga.
Speaker 1: No one said that, but I'm gonna say it during
Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm gonna write that one down and then say.
Speaker 2: Here you go, Hey, here's here's here's a trivia for
Speaker 2: you and anyone at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you.
Speaker 3: Can tell me, uh.
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga's real name, I'll owe you something.
Speaker 1: It's Stephanie. I know that she's Italian. I saw that
Speaker 1: one minute compilation of her saying over and over again
Speaker 1: that she's Italian. Even though we forgot to put her
Speaker 1: on our Italian tears, I would have put her at
Speaker 1: the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Gaga.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephanie Mario, Stephanie Germanada, Germanada, God damn it. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: if anyone got that right at home, Mac will send
Speaker 1: you something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got your free T shirt from what it dones.
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