WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.600 The monsters living on the edge. 2 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:35.320 They creep where the fence this fall, where the moonlight 3 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.159 paints the wall, hiding. 4 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:41.560 Where the trees grow tall. 5 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:50.079 You're hill and crawl through the trees this Christmas on 6 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:55.560 a morast breeze, on the day, where they breathe. 7 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:07.519 On the they never muster. Slur for shadows on the 8 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:23.640 lever the bottlen. 9 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:28.480 Where the doors they roll, Sweep on the lake, where. 10 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:29.879 The reeds the kty. 11 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:39.599 They're watching you as you walk away, slim, where the 12 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:45.120 dark begins, where a windness song isn't too thick. 13 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:52.640 Grill on the still way up on me as they 14 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:58.480 never leave, must for shadows. 15 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:35.280 Good morning, monsters, and welcome to this week's episode of 16 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:40.000 Monsters on the Edge here on the Untold Radio Network. 17 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:44.439 I am your host, Barnaby Jones, founder of Cryptid's Anomalies 18 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:48.680 and the Paranormal Society. Good morning Lee and the Gang. 19 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:52.000 We are live in studio and you are right Lee. 20 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.800 It is a cold morning here in Wisconsin. It is 21 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:58.680 the coldest so far of this winter, and it is 22 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.400 looking like it's going to get even colder this week. 23 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:05.000 So not looking forward to that. What I am looking 24 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.759 forward to, though, is some awesome events that we got 25 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.599 coming up here in the spring, hopefully it's a little warmer. 26 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:14.319 Then we are starting off this year's conventions and tour 27 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:18.719 with a trip to Obscura kon March twenty first through 28 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:22.159 the twenty second into Kelb, Illinois. Myself and a lot 29 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:24.400 of other great guests are going to be there for 30 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:26.800 this awesome two day event. It's in a cool little 31 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:31.719 castle building. Definitely looking forward to that. Then we had 32 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:39.360 to contact modalities Expo May first through the third in Delavan, Wisconsin. 33 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:45.199 Myself and fellow I'm told radio host Dean Bertram will 34 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:49.840 be there as well as all kinds of other cool paranormal, bigfoot, 35 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.159 you name it. There's gonna be all kinds of different 36 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:58.120 modalities there, so awesome, awesome, gonna be a great time. 37 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.879 And then coming up again Cryptids, Anomalies and the Paranormal 38 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:11.400 Convention Saturday, May ninth in Fondelac, Wisconsin. Over forty vendors, bigfoot, paranormal, UFOs, cryptids. 39 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:12.039 We're bringing it. 40 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.800 All under one roof. Kicking off Friday with a kid's 41 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:22.360 daylight educational Bigfoot hike with myself, Chris mccury from the 42 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:27.199 Caps team Laurence Smith, Night Callers Radio, and Kelly Milner Halls, 43 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.480 who is a children's book author, all going out on 44 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:32.839 this expedition for the Braver Souls. We kick off with 45 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:37.399 a nighttime hike with Lawrence Smith, myself, Chris, as well 46 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:41.000 as Jaybachochin local researcher here in Wisconsin. Ken Gerhard and 47 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:45.439 Larry Eisler will be joining us. He's a little more paranormal, 48 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:49.879 but he's coming out on his first Bigfoot expedition. Then, guys, 49 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:53.279 June thirteenth, we head down to Chicago for the Chicago 50 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:58.120 Paranormal Convention. In Countryside, Illinois, I will be at the 51 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:03.639 Ryo Library and the Belleville Public Library in October. So 52 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.879 just some stuff for you guys to keep in mind 53 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:09.800 going forward if you're interested in seeing myself and members 54 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:13.519 of my team in person. But guys, right now, we 55 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.399 have an awesome guest in studio. We are live, so 56 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:18.800 if you have any questions or comments throughout the show, 57 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:20.759 throw them in the comments section and we'll get to 58 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.000 them as soon as possible. It's definitely going to be 59 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:42.399 an interesting show today, so let's get to it. My 60 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.839 guest today is Ethan Oates. He is a researcher and 61 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:50.519 filmmaker currently collaborating with Ron Moorehead, Daryl Denton, Martin Groves, 62 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:55.639 and Mike Smith on a production called The Bigfoot Documentary Movie. 63 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:59.959 His work focuses on investigating extraordinary phenomenon, ranging from him 64 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.600 sightings of giants in the Solomon Islands two accounts of 65 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:08.399 interdimensional encounters. Through his upcoming documentary, Oates seeks to present 66 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:16.360 his findings regarding ancient structures encryptid activity. Came to share 67 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.519 no documentation, a meek pursive on these conventional topics with 68 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:22.199 a wider audience, and today he's here to share that 69 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.759 with you. So please welcome to the show. 70 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.160 Ethan Oates. Hi, how are you today? 71 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:32.120 I am doing well. I have not had two step 72 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.920 outside since the wee hours of the morning when I 73 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:36.720 got done with work, so I am nice and toasty. 74 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:40.120 One. Yeah, we've been We've been getting spoiled here in Wisconsin. Man. 75 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.199 The last couple of winners that you know, with barely 76 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.839 any snow and all that, and then this year it's 77 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.439 like super cold and it's like here comes that snow, 78 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.959 like left and right. It's like, oh man. 79 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:56.000 You know, absolutely we have very little snow where I 80 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.279 am though, it's about about an inch or so out 81 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.519 there right now on the ground, so luckily not too 82 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:02.079 much of that. 83 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.199 Nice whereabouts you at in Wisconsin? 84 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:09.560 The lower part, I'm a Fox Valley area Nina Appleton, Ashkosh, 85 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:11.519 that kind of junction. 86 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:14.800 In the Moose Lake area, past Moose Lake area and 87 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:18.279 Hayward a little past there. Yeah, I'm up there. 88 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.639 Wait, yes, definitely a little colder up there. 89 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:24.879 Man. 90 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:28.439 Awesome, Well, let's let's get into this because you have 91 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:33.279 some very interesting stories here, very interesting encounters. Before we 92 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:35.720 get into all that, Let's start off at the beginning, 93 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.600 because you've you've had all these interesting encounters and events 94 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.360 and stuff. Where did this all start? Where did you 95 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.199 get interested in any of this stuff? So? 96 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.199 I was a TV actor. I had a comedy show 97 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:51.160 for about seventeen years. I've also been in quite a few, 98 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:55.959 like five different horror movies, you know, scary movies. I've 99 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.160 been in a couple with Rob Mucus from House of 100 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:04.800 a Thousand Corps. I you know, I had so I 101 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.000 would be a flashy kind of guy. I used to 102 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:08.680 like to spend a lot of money because I made 103 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:10.639 a lot of money. I was pulling in twenty thirty 104 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:14.879 thousand dollars a month. I so I was always flashy. 105 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:17.079 I would have to go out to Vegas all the time, 106 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:21.439 walk the red carpet. So I I used to go. 107 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:23.319 And you know, a buddy of mine was like, hey, 108 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:24.879 you know, you better do what you can do. You're 109 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.199 getting older. You go see the world. And I'm like, 110 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.959 I enjoyed that. And I used to go to Hawaii 111 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.120 until it caught on fire. And so I had a 112 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:37.159 friend of mine that was a lady and she has 113 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.600 another lady friend that she's married to, you know, their couple. 114 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.399 And I've known her for I want to say twenty 115 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:48.799 six twenty seven years. She talked me into going to 116 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.919 salam Island. So she mentioned it to me and told 117 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:57.080 me it's tropical and beautiful, and you know, I was like, okay, 118 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.039 and so, you know, I like stuff like that. So 119 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.600 I went and and when we got there, we we 120 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.399 ended up landing in the city part of Salomon Island, 121 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:09.600 on the very end of the island. She did not 122 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.120 want to stay there. She she wanted to go somewhere 123 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.159 more secluded where you know, she wanted to go topless 124 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:19.679 on the beach. She could I'm just being straight up, 125 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:23.240 That's how it was. And uh so we she talked 126 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:26.399 to a man there and we chartered a boat. The 127 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.120 man took us down about a quarter away of the island, 128 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.519 and he took us to a village where we could stay. 129 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.039 He said, if we offer them a little bit of money, 130 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:38.440 they would they're this hospital, they would be just fantastic 131 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:41.840 to us. So he took us down there, he introduced us, 132 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:46.399 you know, to a tribe and and and uh, I 133 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.360 mean it was it was fantastic. These people were just 134 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.759 they were all over you like you were a celebrity, 135 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:57.159 and they didn't have no idea who I was. And 136 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.240 so we stayed there. We made a plan to stay 137 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:03.960 there from Friday Sunday. So Friday started off and it 138 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:06.840 was real neat. It was interesting to see what these 139 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:11.159 tribal people were, you know doing, And I'm interesting other cultures, 140 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.799 so I found everything they were doing real interesting. And 141 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:17.879 and you know, you know, these people got to live 142 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.559 like this when we you know, we got microwaves and 143 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:23.519 we got this, and we got that, you know. Uh 144 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:27.440 So the day went by, and as it started to 145 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:31.480 get into the evening, my friend's girl wife went over 146 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.480 to the woods area line to go to the bathroom. 147 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:37.480 So she snuck off went over there to go to 148 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.200 the bathroom. We had we were at a camp. We 149 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.000 had a fire going. She came wall and her eyes 150 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.240 looked really funny, like she was upset. And I kept noticing. 151 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:49.080 She sat on the other side of my my, my friend, 152 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:52.360 and uh, I, you know, I kind of kept noticing. 153 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:54.519 She's trying to whisper in her in her in her 154 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:56.960 wife's ear there, and I'm like, you know, I'm trying 155 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.799 to listen what she's saying. She turns and looks at 156 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:02.840 me and says, she there's a skull over there. And 157 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.519 I said what And she said, there's skull. There's skull 158 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:08.320 and bones or something over there. And I said, I 159 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.200 looked at it. I said, what's going on? And she said, 160 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:14.159 there's a skull over there, and she was starting to cry. Well. 161 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.879 The chief of the village heard that. He overheard her 162 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.559 and seeing that she was upset. He's a very smart man, 163 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.600 Chief Joseph, very smart man. He overheard it. He said, 164 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:28.240 what's going on. I said, she's seen a skull, she claims. 165 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.639 He goes, oh, yeah, yeah, don't mind that. That's fine. 166 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:34.360 There's there's all kinds of them all over and I said, 167 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:37.559 they're all over and he goes, yeah, he goes, he 168 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.919 liked me. The chief liked me because I talked a 169 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:45.480 lot about United States and how our country, you know, 170 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:50.279 the bad stuff, the you know, the lies, the you know, 171 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.480 you know, there's this bad stuff, you know, and I 172 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.200 so I'm like, you know, so we clicked. He liked me. 173 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:57.919 He think that he thought I was kind of like 174 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.360 anti government, and he like, if you do this over here, 175 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.480 you say the certain things, you'll get killed. And I'm like, oh, 176 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:08.600 you know. So he really liked me. So he started 177 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.480 to tell me that they place these It's a long story, 178 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:13.039 so I'm gonna kind of cut it in and make 179 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:17.559 it shorter. He started telling me that they placed these 180 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:22.600 skulls around the village because the jungle is alive and 181 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.639 it keeps the creatures from the from the jungle out 182 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.919 from coming at them, and you know, it helps. And 183 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.919 I'm like, what do you mean? So, I mean, as 184 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:34.679 he's telling me this, I'm starting to think, when's the 185 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:38.039 gig up? You know, is this part of the you know, 186 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:40.360 us paying to stay here, You're going to creep us out? 187 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.559 Scare us or you know. And at the time, I 188 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.919 had probably about a I want to say about a 189 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:50.279 seventy thousand dollars watch on diamond watch. I had a 190 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:53.320 twenty thousand dollars necklace on big o' you know run 191 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:58.279 DMC gold necklace, you know, diamond rings. I was flashy, 192 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:01.320 you know, and I probably shouldn't have did that going 193 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.600 to the islands, you know. So I was kind of 194 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.679 worried at that point that, you know, are they setting 195 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.759 us up to rob us? Are they? You know, I 196 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.840 grew up in Michigan, so I'm street smart, you know, 197 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.480 because Detroit was next to us, and you know, Detroit's 198 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.320 got a lot of bad things going on. And so 199 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:23.399 I started thinking that, and he just started running to me, 200 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:30.120 telling me, you know, stuff about his past. His father 201 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:36.600 was chief, his father's father was chief before that. There 202 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:40.720 are these giants that walk all over Solomon Island. There's 203 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:45.240 twenty four foot humanoid giants. They look just like a human, 204 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:48.559 a tribe, you know, with their tribal because they live 205 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.279 out in the jungle, but exactly like a human. And 206 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.919 I'm like, hmm, you know, and everything he's telling me, 207 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.759 I'm not I'm just taking it, you know, in but 208 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:00.240 I'm not you know, I've never seen that before. And 209 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.559 I'm just like, okay, and I'm the guy that I don't. 210 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.679 I don't really believe anything until I see it with 211 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.679 my own eyes, and I know, I got a lot 212 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.960 of common sense, and it's just like you can throw 213 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:13.159 something at me and it's like, okay, okay, but I'm 214 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.879 like So as the time went by, he told me 215 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:20.399 that his grandfather took him and showed him when he 216 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.600 was young these giant skulps and and in like a 217 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:29.159 gravesite area. And I said, oh, really, that's that's interesting. 218 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.159 He goes, you know, I'll take you tomorrow if you'd 219 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:34.639 like me to. And I said, okay, you know what 220 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:37.000 I mean. I thought the gig's going to be up tomorrow. 221 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:40.559 So we go to spend the night, you know, on 222 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.639 mid either there's there's there's pea cocks on this island 223 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.840 and they're making all kinds of noise and you know, 224 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.360 my first time, you know, Actually we're in this little 225 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.080 hut that is like a it's like a tree like 226 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.039 maybe about this size of limbs and they're tree pieces 227 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:00.879 and they made a floor, made wall, made real file 228 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.759 of all this. It's really neat. So but it's it's thin, 229 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:06.960 you know, It's it's it's like you're in a tent 230 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.480 almost still, you know, so, and the sounds are just 231 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:13.679 all night long. So I barely slept all night long. Man, 232 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:15.799 it was hard to do that, you know what I mean, 233 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:18.879 because if you go camping, let alone, you're hearing noises 234 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:21.279 and then you're thinking, is that a bear? Is that this? 235 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:23.320 You know? So it was it was hard for me 236 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:26.120 to do that. So I barely got in sleep that night. 237 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:29.919 We got up in the morning time. There's a lot 238 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:32.440 of in between things that I'm skipping out because there's 239 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.039 a lot of stuff to this. So I, you know, 240 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:36.960 of course, I'm sitting and we're sitting around, we're getting 241 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:40.519 ready to eat eat. In the morning, I'm watching these 242 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:44.759 ladies and they're they're stripping down nude, and I'm like, 243 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:47.360 you know, I'm kind of not trying to be nosy, 244 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.879 but I'm wondering what they're doing. And they're taking this 245 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.159 it almost looks like ashes from a cigarette, but it's 246 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.240 thick and it's almost it's it's heavier. Eye felt some 247 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:03.039 of it, and they're taking that and they're rucking it 248 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.159 on their skin, and when they do, it turns pure white, 249 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.000 like the purest white paint you can imagine. And I 250 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:13.240 said to the chief, I said, what are they doing? 251 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:17.399 And he says, well, they paint theirself with that white stuff, 252 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.200 because he said that when they go into jungle, when 253 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.720 they paint theirself white, it represents the skull and it 254 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:29.080 keeps the giant creatures back. And I'm like hmm, and 255 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:32.679 so I'm like, well, you know. So then during our talk, 256 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.039 I'm like, well, where do you guys eat mostly, And 257 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:37.799 he said out of the ocean that they barely go 258 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.320 into the jungle because it's so dangerous, but there is 259 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.440 things that they do need in the jungle, and when 260 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.200 they do, the women will paint theirself white and they'll 261 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:50.919 go into and the tribal men that go with them 262 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:54.679 won't paint theirself white. They go in normal, and they 263 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:57.440 do a circle around the women as they go in, 264 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.519 so the women will be like here, and they'll come 265 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.559 in like this and flush in and they stay circled 266 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:06.400 around the women. He said, about fifty to sixty feet 267 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:10.759 because of these creatures in the forest. He said, it's 268 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:13.799 very dangerous out there. And I was just like, so 269 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.680 I'm starting, you know, I'm still hearing stuff. After last night. 270 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.079 He told me all kinds of stuff of his harriage, 271 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:25.039 you know, of life on Southam Island. And I was like, hmm, 272 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.759 you know, he's already told me that these creatures come 273 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.880 into the village and when they come into the village, 274 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.640 to destroy the village and they try to get the people. 275 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:38.960 And I said, well, they eat you. He said, yeah, 276 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.920 they try to get us. And he goes, so what, 277 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.319 I said, Well, what do you do? I said, you 278 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:46.960 run into the jungle, because it's all jungle around him. 279 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.079 I mean, where are you going to go? And I 280 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.920 said you run into the jungle or the ocean. He goes, no, 281 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.200 he goes, we stand, we stand guard. We you know, 282 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:58.720 we stand our guard. And he goes, we raised skulls. 283 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:01.599 And I said, you raise skulls and he said yeah. 284 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.279 We take a skull and we raise it above our 285 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.640 head and we bow our head down, and he goes, 286 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.559 it shows the giants respect and they get back. I said, 287 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.279 why does it do that? He said, because a lot 288 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.680 of these creatures we we we kind of nicknamed them 289 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:19.839 as skull collectors. And I said, skull collectors. He said, yeah, 290 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:24.279 they collect skulls. I said, the hairy one you're talking 291 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.480 about that, you know, seemed like Bigfoot collected skulls and 292 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.720 he said yes, and he said they also go invisible. 293 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.200 I said, well, what's the biggest one you've ever seen 294 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:36.759 of that? He said over thirty feet, but there's tribal 295 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.400 people out here that claimed that they've seen them fifty 296 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:42.960 and sixty feet tall. I'm like, whoa. So you know, 297 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.640 of course I'm taking this in Barnaby and I'm like, 298 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:48.720 you know, when's this gig up? You know what I mean? 299 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:50.720 Because this is a good one. You know, I'm thinking, 300 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.200 you try to scare us. You know, you're gonna laugh 301 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:57.079 at us, you know all this. So you know, anyways, 302 00:18:57.079 --> 00:18:59.519 I'll take what's back to the fire. So that was, 303 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.640 you know, all kinds of stuff I learned prior. And 304 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.119 so we're getting ready to go out and all of 305 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:08.559 a sudden, I see these tribal guys take off into 306 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.119 the jungle. They're looking over at me and then they 307 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.359 take off into the jungle. So, you know, maybe it 308 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:15.720 was my thoughts because I was worried that you know, 309 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:17.599 they're they're spotting me out and then they're going in 310 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.440 the jungle. They're probably just looking, you know what I mean, 311 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.359 maybe interested in me or whatever, you know, because you know, 312 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.519 different cultures or interests in different cultures. So they take 313 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:29.759 off in the jungle. We're still eating the chief. I'm 314 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:33.200 looking at the chief. He's sitting there eating and he 315 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.119 stops eating about three minutes four minutes later, and he says, 316 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.640 you're ready to go. And the first thing I thought is, 317 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:44.200 why did those guys go in the jungle already? You know, 318 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.000 are they gonna you guys gonna kill me or you know, 319 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.319 we're getting I'm getting nervous, man. You know, in mind me, 320 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:53.640 I've took self defense since I've been eight years old. 321 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:56.640 My mom put me in that. I you know what 322 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.480 I mean. I did self defense with police officers. I 323 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:02.599 was in a cour worse with them. My buddy trained them, 324 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:04.480 and I was in there with that. I mean, so 325 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.279 I'm not I'm a tough guy, but I'm a I'm 326 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:11.920 a love hearted guy, and so I I still, you know, 327 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.880 I was getting really nervous, man. So you know, at 328 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:19.240 that point, my girlfriend's my friend's lover, her wife is 329 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:21.400 getting really scared. She's like, I'll go, but I'm not 330 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.480 going in there. I don't want to see the bones. 331 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:26.039 You know, I don't know. She's getting all worried. So 332 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.440 I'm just like thinking, oh, you know, you know, this 333 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:32.599 is a joke. Anyway, So I said to the chief, 334 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:34.559 why did they go in there? He says, well, those 335 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:38.319 are my warriors, those are tribal warriors. And what they're 336 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:40.160 gonna do is they're gonna go in ahead of us, 337 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:42.880 and then we're going to go in. And he said, 338 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:45.480 and then we're gonna have some behind us. That way 339 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.799 we got, you know, we're okay. And I'm like, okay, 340 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:51.920 So I just played it off. You know, I'm still nervous. 341 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.519 We start walking into the woods into the jungle. We 342 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:57.960 go down this it's like almost like a deer trail, 343 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:02.519 but a little bit wider. We follow this trail probably 344 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.240 about thirty five forty minutes, and we get to where 345 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:08.839 the trail kind of keeps going this way, but then 346 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:11.480 it turns off. And then when it turns off, it 347 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.200 opens up. And so one of the tribal men, as 348 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:17.720 we got up there, was standing there where the turn 349 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:21.680 is and we get up to him and he's like, 350 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:24.440 we're here, and the chief said, and I said, okay. 351 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:27.599 And so my friend's wife said, I'm not going in. 352 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:29.400 Can I stand right here? Can I stand right here? 353 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:32.880 He says, yeah. So she stood with the one tribal guy. 354 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.079 Me and my friend walked in with the chief. As 355 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:40.960 we walked in, it it turned, you know, the trail turned, 356 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:44.640 and then on the ground you could see humanoid skulls 357 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:47.920 and it was like they placed him on the side 358 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.200 of the trail like a railing, like how you would rocks. 359 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.200 So I want to say, about fifteen feet of that, 360 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.359 and then the skull got bigger and got about to 361 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:03.279 knee high. And then the skull got bigger than that, 362 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:08.400 about another ten fifteen feet further. And at that point 363 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.119 I spotted the big skull and it was a big 364 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:15.440 skull laying on the ground sideways, you know, like this. 365 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:19.200 And as I spotted that, I was like, you know, 366 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:21.319 I'm hitting my friend like this, hey, hey, you know, 367 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:24.640 and my eyes are just on that, not moving, and 368 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:27.119 I looked at the chief and I said, I said, 369 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.119 I said, how big is that skull? And cause you 370 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.400 could see, you know, it's a skull, he said, if 371 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:35.480 it was straight up, I believe it would probably be 372 00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:39.039 twenty seven twenty seven feet tall. If it was standing 373 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:43.519 straight up, I'm like wow. So of course my friend 374 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:49.240 she is a tomboy, so she instantly was over there 375 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:51.960 trying to touch it, tap on it, knock on it. 376 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:54.200 I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing? 377 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:57.720 You know kind of thing, and she's like, look, and 378 00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:00.559 on the bottoms of the skull it was almost like 379 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:05.400 a The ground was like a change of a rustic 380 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:11.160 looking color, like almost rust and a purply And so 381 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.319 I asked the chief, I said, what what what? Why 382 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:16.160 does it look like that? He said, don't touch it. 383 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:19.839 He said, that's that's uh, that's you know, from the 384 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:23.039 skull rotting and the stuff going in the ground. And 385 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:26.359 he's like this, don't touch that. And so I was like, okay, Well, 386 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:31.279 I walked up Barnaby and I walked in the eye 387 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.519 of the skull laying sideways like that. I walked in 388 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.640 the eye and could not touch this end of the eye. 389 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:40.400 I had to get on my tippy toes and jump 390 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:43.000 and I could touch that end. That's how tall the 391 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.319 eye was. Sideways. I walked in and I'm like, wow, 392 00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:48.759 it was like you could somebody could make a home 393 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:51.400 inside the skull. You know what I'm saying. Somebody could 394 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.440 live in there, and I'm like, this is weird, and 395 00:23:54.599 --> 00:24:00.119 uh so, uh we come out of there, you know, 396 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.359 checking out the skulls. I asked him where's the bones? 397 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:05.880 He said, he just shook his head at me. He 398 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:08.839 didn't answer me, so I had no idea where bones were. 399 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:11.799 It looked like across the field area, it looked like 400 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:16.240 a long leg bone, like maybe a tree that somebody skinned, 401 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:20.039