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Speaker 6: It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files
Speaker 6: podcast and we are recording on the Saturday, December the seventh,
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. I hope everybody had a great weekend.
Speaker 6: We have a great guest standing by. It's Robert from Idaho.
Speaker 6: We'll get to them in just a moment. Before we
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Speaker 6: Now we do have the rest of the month booked.
Speaker 6: I think I'm doing three this coming week and that'll
Speaker 6: take us through the end of the year. You know,
Speaker 6: you'll still get podcasts every week, but I'll kind of
Speaker 6: be laying low the last two weeks, spending time with
Speaker 6: the family and grandchildren, as I hope you all do
Speaker 6: as well. Obviously, the truth never sleeps. It's twenty four
Speaker 6: to seven, so you know we'll have all that prerecorded
Speaker 6: and you'll still get podcasts every single Sunday night at
Speaker 6: eight pm Eastern time. And without any further ado, let's
Speaker 6: bring on Robert. Robert, how are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 5: I'm doing fine, sir. How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm doing well.
Speaker 6: It's been a rough week, but you know, such as
Speaker 6: life adapt and overcome. And again you're in Pacific time.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you getting up the Saturday morning to spend
Speaker 6: time with us and share your journey to the truth.
Speaker 6: And with that, I'll kind of flip it over to
Speaker 6: you and you can introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 5: Hi, guys. I'm Robert. I live in North Idaho, just
Speaker 5: south of Corterlaine on Corterlane Lake. I got into this
Speaker 5: uh truth thing or like the honestly, the flatterth Files
Speaker 5: brought me on to flat Earth, like I met I
Speaker 5: met my girlfriend and she kind of opened my eyes
Speaker 5: up to the truth scene. Uh through like what was
Speaker 5: that thing called a rope? The Last the Last Battle
Speaker 5: that's believe it's called I still haven't got all the
Speaker 5: way through that, but that kind of like is what
Speaker 5: what what brought that forth? She actually listens to Alex
Speaker 5: are used to, I should say used to listen to
Speaker 5: Alex Jones. Alex Jones wok her up way back in
Speaker 5: the day and now Crow Triple seven is a huge
Speaker 5: part of our life. We we do pay for that.
Speaker 5: I do recommend that podcast. That podcast is awesome. I
Speaker 5: started at the very beginning, and I think I'm there's
Speaker 5: like six hundred and some episodes and I'm at like,
Speaker 5: i think I'm in the one seventies they're doing, they're
Speaker 5: going through AI is where I'm at. But when I
Speaker 5: got into the Flat Earth Files, it was it was
Speaker 5: kind of like your podcast through Spotify because I used
Speaker 5: to listen to like my bookshelf was Joe Rogan the
Speaker 5: way I heard it with micro Dan Bongino, Ted Cruise,
Speaker 5: like all the mainstream stuff, and then I got into
Speaker 5: the Flat Earth Files. I listened to that when we
Speaker 5: were flying last year to go to see my brother
Speaker 5: that lives in Oklahoma, just outside of Oka see and
Speaker 5: I binged your show the entire flight there and back,
Speaker 5: like I downloaded everything. I listened everything what I could.
Speaker 5: And then it was crazy because while you're actually in flight, right,
Speaker 5: you can actually see this, so you're flying over the
Speaker 5: Midwest and everything's flat. I had a window seat. I
Speaker 5: had to fight my kid over a window seat, which
Speaker 5: is which was kind of bad because I was her
Speaker 5: first time flying. But so I was able to look
Speaker 5: over her to see everything, and everything's flat. From that
Speaker 5: and that little window that they give you, everything looks flat.
Speaker 5: Your perception changes because I believed in that bum gardener,
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, space space jump right. I believed in that.
Speaker 5: That was like I wanted to do that. That's how
Speaker 5: much I believed in that. And then listening to your show,
Speaker 5: listening to the viewers and stuff, it just broke. It
Speaker 5: broke all that stuff, Like I think I immediately contacted
Speaker 5: you and I wanted to come on the show. And
Speaker 5: then things happened. And I wasn't a very big believer
Speaker 5: in God before and now I'm not, like, like, I
Speaker 5: haven't read the entire Bible, but I'm definitely way close
Speaker 5: to him that I was before this happened. A man,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Yes, yes, sir, And it's there's,
Speaker 5: there's and there's other things with that that I haven't
Speaker 5: I haven't. Like. My relationship with him is different than
Speaker 5: I would say, because I think I didn't grow up
Speaker 5: with them, so I like and the things that I
Speaker 5: listened to and objectively look at, some things are are obscure.
Speaker 5: I guess I should say with that, like was it
Speaker 5: the Pope and King James that took like the word
Speaker 5: God out of the Bible seven thousand times or something
Speaker 5: like that. Don't don't quote me on that, but it's
Speaker 5: something ridiculous like that. I believe that's the only Bible
Speaker 5: also that is cop or was copyrighted tried to be copyrighted.
Speaker 4: You mean the King James.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, that's you know. I think I've looked into that.
Speaker 6: At some point, I have to do some research and
Speaker 6: see you. I mean, obviously who's getting the money?
Speaker 4: Where is it? One of those things.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing, because I've looked anytime I do, like
Speaker 6: classic audio on my other podcast, there's some weird rule
Speaker 6: with copy.
Speaker 4: It's like seventy five years.
Speaker 6: And obviously the Bible is you know five you know,
Speaker 6: the King James version is now over five hundred years old,
Speaker 6: so I assume that anybody can print it and sell it.
Speaker 5: Right, But at one point it was it was copyrighted.
Speaker 5: Interesting copyrighting, like this is this? I can't remember the
Speaker 5: episode of Crow that I listened to, but and there's
Speaker 5: a bunch of guys on there that talk about there's
Speaker 5: different metaphors, Like this guy that was talking about is
Speaker 5: that this We'll kind of leave it at like straw Man, right, So,
Speaker 5: like he was talking about how the Bible is law.
Speaker 5: Every every every every verse in there is a metaphor
Speaker 5: for law, and that goes back to like I think
Speaker 5: the druids or whatever, you know, and today we have
Speaker 5: admiralty law. We follow admiralty law. Your name in all
Speaker 5: caps is your corporation, not you the living flesh. We're
Speaker 5: not free. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Jordan Maxwell did an outstanding the Admiral of the Maritime Law.
Speaker 6: It's about an hour and fifteen minutes. You can easily
Speaker 6: find it on YouTube. Actually, I'll make sure I put
Speaker 6: the link in there. Everybody should listen to that. But yeah,
Speaker 6: go ahead, sorry, you're all right. I'll dig up the episodes.
Speaker 5: There's four or five episodes through Crow that go into
Speaker 5: this in a deep dive, very deep, very very very
Speaker 5: deep dive. They have one guest that's comes back on
Speaker 5: twice and it goes through everything about how that works.
Speaker 5: It brings up the Black Law Dictionary, how words have meaning,
Speaker 5: constitution Yep. I mean, like I believe that the thirteenth
Speaker 5: the thirteenth Amendments that are the slaves free, but the
Speaker 5: fourteenth Amendment enslaved.
Speaker 4: It's all correct.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and all that happened right around eighteen seventy one
Speaker 6: during reconstruction, if my memory serves me correctly.
Speaker 5: Yep, yep. And then and then all this was happening
Speaker 5: right and then like for my discovery, and then my
Speaker 5: girlfriend got me into a website or a guy called
Speaker 5: YouTube goes by the name of archaics. Archaics is a
Speaker 5: chronological chronologic chronological list. Yes, I guess that's that's the word,
Speaker 5: and he goes in with he rips old text apart.
Speaker 5: He doesn't like anything new, says if there's a reset,
Speaker 5: like the last reset was in nineteen oh two, So
Speaker 5: like I'm in search for a Bible that's older than
Speaker 5: nineteen oh two, that is not King King James I do.
Speaker 5: I don't want a King James Bible that's older than
Speaker 5: nineteen oh two. I want. I haven't decided which version
Speaker 5: I want, but like that, that's all I'm on the hunt.
Speaker 5: There's a huge book burning, basically banning of words like
Speaker 5: the nineteen fifty eight Britannica, taking the firmament out of uh,
Speaker 5: taking the firmament out of it. He's got a lot
Speaker 5: of like a lot of good information. It's it's definitely
Speaker 5: a concept. There's some things there that I don't quite grasp,
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of things I can I can
Speaker 5: I can understand from from his teachings. But it's it's
Speaker 5: it's just been a wild, wild journey, UH going going,
Speaker 5: like during the time that I first got a hold
Speaker 5: of you till the second time I got ahold of you,
Speaker 5: Like my I expanded so much in the and had
Speaker 5: way more experiences with with latter like actually talking with
Speaker 5: the public, like you said, like leave little bread crumbs.
Speaker 5: So I drive, I owed my own truck and company.
Speaker 5: I drive in the Pacific Northwest. I go like Washington,
Speaker 5: Northern Idaho, western Montana. So there's a couple of guys
Speaker 5: on a couple of my routes that they are huge truthers.
Speaker 5: And when I'm hit those stops, you know, you kind
Speaker 5: of like, I don't start flat Earth, but you can.
Speaker 5: You can kind of. It's funny how the conversations spark
Speaker 5: up and you and they they grow and they evolve,
Speaker 5: and when that happens, there's it's like awesome because then
Speaker 5: you actually like I look forward to that stop and
Speaker 5: that little like fifteen minute window that I get to
Speaker 5: talk with that guy it's unloaded my truck at that
Speaker 5: stop about whatever, because it's it's, uh, we connect on
Speaker 5: so many different ways.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 6: You guys can discuss the knowledge that you've kind of
Speaker 6: come upon since the last time you spoke, and it's
Speaker 6: exciting and going back to your the Bible. I wish
Speaker 6: I had the money the eBay. I've gotten a lot
Speaker 6: of great old texts from the eighteen hundreds, from eBay,
Speaker 6: but they have a a sixteen fourteen Geneva by like
Speaker 6: legitimately printed from sixteen fourteen, so you know, a four
Speaker 6: hundred year old Bible. It goes for two thousand dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and then they have one in original fifteen eighty three
Speaker 6: in great shape, thirteen thousand, so you can get these books.
Speaker 6: I found it's so interesting to see how they have
Speaker 6: and I don't know if it was post world to
Speaker 6: World War two. I know Archaics, I've listened to some
Speaker 6: of his stuff. He does go with nineteen oh two,
Speaker 6: which I find interesting.
Speaker 4: But how.
Speaker 6: This whole thing started me when I saw this note
Speaker 6: somewhere where.
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 6: Ninety percent of eighth graders failed a test that was
Speaker 6: given to eighth graders and like eighteen eighties like that,
Speaker 6: they couldn't come close to passing it, only like less
Speaker 6: than ten percent of the people passed it. And then
Speaker 6: that led me to you know, people, and again I'm
Speaker 6: not judging or telling anybody what to do, but people
Speaker 6: read the NIV, the es V, and people who say
Speaker 6: it's too difficult to read, and that should say a
Speaker 6: lot about our education system and how we don't write
Speaker 6: things out anymore people joke about cursive writing and that
Speaker 6: sort of thing. I think a part of all that
Speaker 6: is lost knowledge. And I think as great as technology is,
Speaker 6: it has to a certain extent all of us. It's
Speaker 6: kind of dumne this down a little bit. And going
Speaker 6: through flat Earth and seeking the truth, going back and
Speaker 6: finding original old documents has made such a great change
Speaker 6: in my life in understanding things.
Speaker 5: It has. It's it's it's the it's the old the
Speaker 5: old teachings were it actually meant something you actually had
Speaker 5: to like, there was there was a process, you know,
Speaker 5: you had you had somebody like show you, then there
Speaker 5: was like or you could read about it, and then
Speaker 5: you applied it. There was like a system to go with. Nowadays,
Speaker 5: it's just like, Okay, we watch something online and you
Speaker 5: don't ever have to like write it out, memorize it
Speaker 5: or anything, and then you kind of go with it.
Speaker 5: And I mean, I'm talking for like like physical skills,
Speaker 5: I guess, but we don't. We don't really have like
Speaker 5: anything back in the day. I can understand why we were,
Speaker 5: which we're like like half of what we used to be.
Speaker 5: Maybe as far as education.
Speaker 6: Certainly, and there's still a lot of people to this
Speaker 6: day who believe the people back in biblical times were
Speaker 6: just dumb as two rocks. I go, the complete opposite
Speaker 6: way is that they were much more in touch how
Speaker 6: the world works, the skyclock, how to grow things. They
Speaker 6: were able to live and understood that every single being
Speaker 6: of this word I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Of this world had a role and a place and
Speaker 4: a meaning.
Speaker 6: And I don't think people really understand that anymore. A
Speaker 6: lot of people don't.
Speaker 5: We've gotten so disconnected from other nature. So and that's
Speaker 5: another thing. So like going down because you started this
Speaker 5: all for me, man, I mean between my girl, my
Speaker 5: girlfriend and you, like she kind of like just gave
Speaker 5: the bread clumbs out. And then I got into your
Speaker 5: podcast and it was wide open. She didn't even know
Speaker 5: anything about flat earth and tel she gave me the
Speaker 5: bread comes. The next thing I guess would have been health.
Speaker 5: I went into health hardcore, and we are so disconnected
Speaker 5: from Mother Earth about our health. Yeah, for sure, it's
Speaker 5: it's insane. Like I mean, like right now, I think
Speaker 5: you're in what Delaware, So it's probably it's probably cold
Speaker 5: because today it's it's supposed to be like high twenty
Speaker 5: four over here. It's like gloomy. We're supposed to get
Speaker 5: like three to five inches of snow tomorrow, or the
Speaker 5: mountain's supposed to get three to five inches of snow.
Speaker 5: She just literally can't like take your shoes off and
Speaker 5: touch mother nature or mother Earth, you know what I mean. Yep,
Speaker 5: But I could have a bad day. Go out there
Speaker 5: in my front grass, take my shoes off, my socks,
Speaker 5: touch the earth barefooted for ten minutes, walk around it,
Speaker 5: and I can come back and feel so much better. Yeah, grounding, right, grounding, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean I feel like a hippie when I say that,
Speaker 5: because I always I used to laugh out on one
Speaker 5: of the kids, but not I've kind of turned into one.
Speaker 6: But even if you look at your animals so like
Speaker 6: I have a she's an old shepherd, but she likes
Speaker 6: to lay in the sun, right, And that's subconsciously animals
Speaker 6: know where to get these things.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 6: They'd rather lay in the sun than in the shade.
Speaker 6: She'll find the window wherever the sun's right. When it's
Speaker 6: on the east in the morning, it hits the living room,
Speaker 6: so she'll be in the living room, and as it
Speaker 6: moves across the sky, she'll switch to the other room
Speaker 6: where the sun is. She just likes to lay in
Speaker 6: the sun. And I mentioned this in an interview the
Speaker 6: other day. You know, when they shut the world down
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty one of the things that there's so
Speaker 6: many small things that go along to what would happen
Speaker 6: with COVID and the scamdemic, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 6: But a lot of it was even going outside to
Speaker 6: get just vitamin D let alone. All the mom and
Speaker 6: pop shops getting overlooked, driving to and from work at
Speaker 6: in your morning coffee and these type of things.
Speaker 4: But just simple things.
Speaker 6: Is going outside and touching the ground with your feet,
Speaker 6: like you said, but even more importantly, getting in the sun.
Speaker 6: Those are the things that your doctor will never ever know.
Speaker 6: He'll tell you all about the newest and greatest pharmaceutical,
Speaker 6: but he won't tell you these truly important things like
Speaker 6: getting out in the sun.
Speaker 5: Getting out in the sun, waking up, waking up with
Speaker 5: the sun, and getting the first fifteen minutes of like
Speaker 5: looking in the direction of the sun rise for the
Speaker 5: first fifteen minutes because it doesn't have the bad UV
Speaker 5: A and UV B race let that get in your
Speaker 5: eyes right, like red light therapy. That and what's Gary Breca.
Speaker 5: I got really hardcore into Gary Breca. So it's breathwork
Speaker 5: from like whim Hof style breathwork looking at the sun
Speaker 5: for the first fifteen minutes. And then when you look
Speaker 5: at the sun, I mean it's harder up here in
Speaker 5: the northern climate, right, But have as much skin as
Speaker 5: you possibly can't exposed to it. So because they say
Speaker 5: vitamin D is a vitamin, but really it's a hormone, right.
Speaker 5: And then touching the earth those are free, those are
Speaker 5: like and that right there will just help help like
Speaker 5: like change your lifestyle, like change your way of life,
Speaker 5: those three little things.
Speaker 6: And it's funny you mentioned that because it takes me
Speaker 6: back to how I say people will pay for Netflix,
Speaker 6: they'll pay for Prime Video, Peacock or whatever else is.
Speaker 6: So you're actually paying for your own brainwashing. And then
Speaker 6: I started to think, well, you know, you know, I
Speaker 6: see these young you know, young adults that'll spend two
Speaker 6: hundred dollars on a pair of Nikes or whatever, and
Speaker 6: that in its own if you think about it, you're
Speaker 6: paying to withhold.
Speaker 4: Your own grounding.
Speaker 6: Now I'm not saying that everybody should be walking around school,
Speaker 6: you know, in their bare feet. But at the same time,
Speaker 6: this is the knowledge we have to get back to
Speaker 6: we really do and getting back to a simpler lifestyle.
Speaker 6: And I know we're all in different stages of our
Speaker 6: life and it's a lot easier for my old behind
Speaker 6: to say things like this, But at the same time,
Speaker 6: making these small and subtle changes in your life have
Speaker 6: so much great benefits to it.
Speaker 5: In they're minuscule, but it's all about the fiduciary responsibility
Speaker 5: for corporations to make money, right, So it's like we
Speaker 5: have to make more, Like I have how many shirts
Speaker 5: do I have in my closet? I have way more
Speaker 5: than I probably ever wear, but I only need really
Speaker 5: like maybe five or six one day for laundry, you know.
Speaker 5: Like and then same thing with jeans. Yep, I think
Speaker 5: we're all anything more than is excess. It really is,
Speaker 5: you know. And then like the food is weaponized, food
Speaker 5: is straight out weaponized. There's a couple of good podcasts,
Speaker 5: Cali and Casey Means. They've been on Joe Rogan, They've
Speaker 5: been on They've been on Gary Breka, They've been Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 5: They've been separately on other shows, and I can't remember
Speaker 5: who is who but one of them is a Stanford
Speaker 5: doctor and the other one was lobbying for coke and
Speaker 5: they just tell you how like I think, I don't
Speaker 5: quote me, but twenty percent of Coca Cola's in come
Speaker 5: comes from food stamps for diabetes water really and it's
Speaker 5: it's that that stuff right there, I mean, sugar. Sugar
Speaker 5: is insane if it's just like the cigarette companies bought
Speaker 5: out food in the nineties, and all they do is
Speaker 5: they make food addictive. You know, they don't they don't
Speaker 5: want you to feel satiated. They don't want you to.
Speaker 5: I feel like basically stop eating. Like that's why you
Speaker 5: can like smash a bag of Doritos and still be
Speaker 5: hungry in like five minutes. Where if you where if
Speaker 5: you eat like a Ribbi steak sixteen ounce or by steak,
Speaker 5: you were full and you were full for a really
Speaker 5: long time. Yeah, well more nutrients against you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like Thanksgiving, you know, we we buy last year,
Speaker 6: we raised our own turkey, didn't this year. But you're
Speaker 6: legitimately full all day. And I'm not talking about three helpings.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about just eating one help well, you know,
Speaker 6: one serving and it goes back to the eight. If
Speaker 6: you really want a deep dive, go research. I think
Speaker 6: I did a podcast two years ago about the truth
Speaker 6: about Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 4: But they started telling.
Speaker 6: People that eggs were the worst thing you can eat
Speaker 6: and raised your cholesterol and if you wait more than
Speaker 6: like four or six eggs a week, you're at risk
Speaker 6: for a heart attack. So everybody stopped and they put
Speaker 6: grains I think, right up near the top of the
Speaker 6: food list. So people stopped eating eggs for breakfast and
Speaker 6: they started eating cheerios and this stuff for breakfast, which
Speaker 6: is awful for you.
Speaker 5: There's there's a new study that says that lucky Charms
Speaker 5: is better than eggs or something like that, Lucky Charms.
Speaker 4: That's insane.
Speaker 5: You flip you flip the back of that label over
Speaker 5: and there's words on there that I can't pronounce. I
Speaker 5: can't get my tongue around. And I'm supposed to feed
Speaker 5: that to I have a six year old daughter. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna feed that to my daughter. Like that's that's the
Speaker 5: hardest thing I have. So like I changed, I changed
Speaker 5: the way I eat, so I eat whole food. I
Speaker 5: went carnivore. I know that's for some people that's kind
Speaker 5: of extreme. It's just a subset of keto. I try
Speaker 5: to keep my carbohydrates down to a very like, like
Speaker 5: less than five per day.
Speaker 4: How did that for you or are you still on it?
Speaker 5: I've still on it. I've been on it for five months.
Speaker 5: I feel great. I have more energy than I can
Speaker 5: I can know what to do with for my journey
Speaker 5: with that was the first thirty days was it was
Speaker 5: a It kicked my butt from one end to the other.
Speaker 5: It was it was hard. It was hard to stay
Speaker 5: on the diet. I powered through with it. By the
Speaker 5: end of the thirty days, I felt so much better.
Speaker 5: By the end of the sixth like the second month,
Speaker 5: I felt even like like it just kept on getting
Speaker 5: better and better and better. And I lost a lot
Speaker 5: of weight. I mean I wasn't. I'm six foot two
Speaker 5: and when I started this journey, I was two hundred
Speaker 5: and thirty five pounds. I'm still six foot you and
Speaker 5: I just weighed myself this morning at two hundred and
Speaker 5: seven pounds and I've been on this thing for five months. Yea,
Speaker 5: all I do is eat meat, I work out. I
Speaker 5: work out upper body, lower body, and I do cowistenics
Speaker 5: three times a week I walk. That's it. Simple stuff,
Speaker 5: really simple stuff. And uh, the portions are like a
Speaker 5: lot of steak, a lot of just basically animal product.
Speaker 5: We bought a hawk. I'm on a list to get
Speaker 5: half a beef h and we just no store bought stuff.
Speaker 5: Know where it came from local ranchers. And it's with
Speaker 5: my daughter. It's hard. Like she had a piece of
Speaker 5: chocolate this morning, you know, but how it's kind of
Speaker 5: hard not to tell a kid you can't.
Speaker 6: Have Chocolateah, of course, I mean we had our childhoods
Speaker 6: and we you know, I think all of us who
Speaker 6: including the people who are listening, walk that fine line
Speaker 6: of you know, we still want to let our children
Speaker 6: be children, but at the same time, we've got to
Speaker 6: be pretty cognizant and understand that, you know, maybe we can't.
Speaker 6: We certainly can't go along the old script that we
Speaker 6: used to use because now that we're aware and we
Speaker 6: have this knowledge of again everything is weaponized. You got
Speaker 6: food fluoride in the water, They're they're spraying you, and
Speaker 6: you know they're brainwashing you through the television.
Speaker 4: It's in all out war.
Speaker 6: And the Bible tells us, you know this realm, you know,
Speaker 6: who the prince of this world is, and this is
Speaker 6: a battle that you're going to have until you know,
Speaker 6: you meet Saint Pete at the Pearly Gate, as they say.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, right.
Speaker 6: We're human, we have feelings and we understand, you know,
Speaker 6: especially with teenage. I have a teenage daughter, so you know,
Speaker 6: even with homeschooling, that was a big decision for me
Speaker 6: and understanding you know, the interaction with other children their age.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, I mean we're talking. You know,
Speaker 6: the evils that we face in this world are just
Speaker 6: and and the big They're not hiding it anymore. Right
Speaker 6: when I grew up, I didn't notice these things very much.
Speaker 6: You know, we saw I was what thirty two when
Speaker 6: Waco happened, that was the first real kind of what's
Speaker 6: going on in this world, right with these people so
Speaker 6: bad that they had to just burn them to the ground.
Speaker 6: And then Oklahoma City. But you know, when you're younger,
Speaker 6: I think, I'm not sure if this was the case
Speaker 6: for you. But I compartmentalized a lot of those things
Speaker 6: because I think subconsciously I wanted to continue to have
Speaker 6: fun in life, even though certainly, you know, once I
Speaker 6: started seeing you know, what was going on in Iraq.
Speaker 6: I fully understood how the world ran. But at some
Speaker 6: point there's just a point in your life where you
Speaker 6: either A you face the truth or B you take
Speaker 6: the blue pill and just say no, I'm just going
Speaker 6: to live in the matrix the rest of my life.
Speaker 5: Right right. For some of us it's the easy decision,
Speaker 5: and for others it's like, I can't, I can't. I
Speaker 5: don't want to take the blue pill. I'm a red
Speaker 5: pil guy, you know, And it's, uh, I don't. I
Speaker 5: don't like the matrix. I'd rather want to know. But
Speaker 5: I've always been that that that way of learning, you know, like, uh,
Speaker 5: school sucked for me, Like I didn't like the create curriculum.
Speaker 5: I was always bored. Rockefeller said, I wanted a nation
Speaker 5: of workers or employees. School makes great, great employees. It's great,
Speaker 5: great employees. Man, get up at this time, show up,
Speaker 5: you know, lunch break, and you go home. Yep, that's school.
Speaker 4: Teach you how to comply, right, yes, comply.
Speaker 5: You know, like when you're out here when you're looking
Speaker 5: at like and they don't teach money in school, they don't.
Speaker 5: They don't teach money. The best thing you can do
Speaker 5: for money is make money work for you. That's right,
Speaker 5: that money that George Washington dollar bill. He's the hardest
Speaker 5: worker you ever have. Right. But they don't they don't
Speaker 5: teach that. They don't teach finance, they don't teach how
Speaker 5: to do that. You have to figure that crap out
Speaker 5: on your own and then or have somebody that's already
Speaker 5: done it. Right.
Speaker 6: They don't teach you where the money comes from, or
Speaker 6: about the Federal Reserve and those things.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's all debt man. You get like, h dude,
Speaker 5: awesome book, rich dad, poor debt. Awesome book. We have
Speaker 5: the We have the game called that he designed called
Speaker 5: cash Flow, which is kind of based off Monopoly, and
Speaker 5: I'm going to get my daughters start playing it because
Speaker 5: it's you. You. There's a video I was just watching
Speaker 5: this morning where he's like, I buy a commercial property
Speaker 5: for a million dollars, it goes up ten million dollars.
Speaker 5: You have a huge chunk of capital gains there. Most
Speaker 5: people would sell it. He goes but that but but
Speaker 5: like that that capital event, right, that's that's that's not
Speaker 5: good because you have to pay taxes on that, so
Speaker 5: you borrow against it. Now you have debt for five
Speaker 5: million dollars and you take those five million George Washington's
Speaker 5: and put them work for you buying something else. Everything
Speaker 5: is about debt. There's nothing money is debt and it's
Speaker 5: it's you have to divorce yourself of the way of
Speaker 5: thinking and relearn everything you thought you knew.
Speaker 4: And what was the name of that game? You were
Speaker 4: talking about?
Speaker 5: Cash flow? So, uh wow, what's what's rich Dad? Poor Dad? Is?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's from rich Dad. I found it, Okay, I see, yeah.
Speaker 5: So it's it's Robert Robert Kawasaka, Kawasaki Kawasaka. I can't
Speaker 5: remember his last name, but he's he. Uh uh. It's
Speaker 5: passive income, like you need real estate, like you want
Speaker 5: you want passive income to come in you know you
Speaker 5: have there's there's the uh ah. I said four stages.
Speaker 5: I'm not really good on recall right now and this
Speaker 5: stuff because I'm still in the midst of like learning
Speaker 5: it because like I said, taking across, taking my bit,
Speaker 5: taking my dad's business over, like from the way he
Speaker 5: he learned how to do it, like all this stuff
Speaker 5: that like I've come around and like going, oh my god,
Speaker 5: I have all this stuff that I have to relearn.
Speaker 5: It's kind of been like an overwhelming task, but it
Speaker 5: has to get done.
Speaker 4: That is so awesome. Yeah, his name is Richard. Where
Speaker 4: did it go?
Speaker 6: Kayasaki? Yeah, Robert, I'm sorry Robert Kayasaki and Sharon Lecter
Speaker 6: I think is the other. Yeah, that's interesting, you.
Speaker 5: Know, And it's it's it's uh, one of the one
Speaker 5: of the best things that it's hard. Don't ever work
Speaker 5: for money. Don't ever work for money. Like and he
Speaker 5: goes out like one of his things in his books
Speaker 5: is that his rich dad said that I'll teach you money,
Speaker 5: but you will I will never give you a paycheck
Speaker 5: because you will never work for money for me. And
Speaker 5: it's that is a it's powerful, it is it's but
Speaker 5: it's it's a hard concept to like to grasp, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And then like so like with
Speaker 5: with the trucking company, it's a little bit easier because
Speaker 5: I have, you know, like my truck and trailer are
Speaker 5: paid for, I have a route, you know, and I'm
Speaker 5: able to kind of like like set stuff aside and
Speaker 5: work through all this, you know, invest certain things and
Speaker 5: work through it. And it's I've been I've been fortunate
Speaker 5: enough to like be able to do this, and it's
Speaker 5: opened my eyes up to a whole lot of other
Speaker 5: like other things. It's it's a big world out there.
Speaker 4: It really is.
Speaker 6: And you know, I had a small business myself, and
Speaker 6: you really have to things change in this world, and
Speaker 6: more so over the last fifteen years, and I'd like
Speaker 6: to see more you know.
Speaker 4: Small business, family business thrive.
Speaker 6: I remember doing a podcast in twenty twenty one there
Speaker 6: was a family trucking company out of Oklahoma that it
Speaker 6: had been a like multi generational company that's been handed
Speaker 6: you know, from generation to generation since the I want
Speaker 6: to say around nineteen twenties, thirties, whatever it was, and
Speaker 6: they just had to shut it down because of everything
Speaker 6: that was going you know, down in twenty twenty and
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one, which was to they're trying, they're doing
Speaker 6: their best to eliminate the middleman and they want everything
Speaker 6: to be run.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think they would probably know you're in the business.
Speaker 4: You would know more than me.
Speaker 6: They would rather you work for Amazon or Walmart than
Speaker 6: be your own owner operator.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's it's hard. California has that and I'm going
Speaker 5: to be bad with the initiative where they're trying to
Speaker 5: get rid of the gig economy. Right, so like where
Speaker 5: because in the industry you could do I can have
Speaker 5: a friend that has a truck, but he doesn't want
Speaker 5: to get authority. We have our own authority, so he
Speaker 5: could lease onto me, right and he could run underneath
Speaker 5: my authority and insurance and I'd have to buy his
Speaker 5: plates and stuff, and then he could go out and
Speaker 5: find his work through me, and then I would just
Speaker 5: ten ninety nine him. They're trying to get rid of that.
Speaker 5: And the reason why California was trying to get rid
Speaker 5: of that is because of all the like the uber
Speaker 5: eats that uh door dash, and there's a few other
Speaker 5: ones in there that I'm I'm missing and those guys
Speaker 5: all those but those guys are so big that if
Speaker 5: if that passes, they're like, we want amendments in this
Speaker 5: bill to where it doesn't exist for us, you know,
Speaker 5: And it's so that there there it goes again. It's
Speaker 5: lobbying because you have money. Everything's everything. That's what everything is.
Speaker 5: Its corporations, transfer of power, money and basically spying. You know,
Speaker 5: we're not we're not on uh. We we think we're free.
Speaker 5: We have the illusion of choice, like the election is
Speaker 5: more of a selection. H English English, Yeah, English language
Speaker 5: is uh is very bad at conveying certain things. It's
Speaker 5: more of like spell casting. It is. What brought me
Speaker 5: up to this was there's in the Flathead so Flathead
Speaker 5: Lake area of Montana cowspell uh. There's a I have
Speaker 5: a drop in Poulson, Montana. There's a Flathead Indian guy
Speaker 5: that and I can't say it, but he taught me
Speaker 5: how to say. What we would say in English is
Speaker 5: good morning. He taught me how to say. It didn't
Speaker 5: stick and I asked him what it actually meant. He goes,
Speaker 5: it translates to good morning in English. But what it
Speaker 5: really means is beautiful day. Okay, And it makes you
Speaker 5: think it's not the first time I've heard stuff like this,
Speaker 5: but it's English. Why would you want to mourn the day?
Speaker 5: To me, like you're in mourning, so you're you're you're grieving, right,
Speaker 5: But the Indians have been here for our Native Americans
Speaker 5: have been here for ever, right, and they're like, beautiful
Speaker 5: day because the day is beautiful. Let's start off the
Speaker 5: data like the right way. It's there's little things like
Speaker 5: that that are just insane.
Speaker 6: And going back to what you said, and I've heard
Speaker 6: a lot and I think a lot of that what
Speaker 6: you're mentioning right now, pardon me, is in that Jordan
Speaker 6: Maxwell video, which by the way, I found it'll be
Speaker 6: I'll post it on the website and in the show
Speaker 6: notes for all the listeners to the podcast. It's powerful stuff.
Speaker 6: And it goes back to right when you're in second grade,
Speaker 6: what kind of be did they have to see who
Speaker 6: the best spelling be?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: It's spelling and they say words cut like a knife
Speaker 6: and the word is actually in the word sword, just
Speaker 6: put an S in front of it, right, And there's
Speaker 6: so many things that when you really think about it,
Speaker 6: a good morning and all these other things, you really
Speaker 6: sit back and think, Hi, is this really just another
Speaker 6: one of those coincidences? Or you know, are are we
Speaker 6: just saying things we were taught to say, but they
Speaker 6: really have a subliminal meaning to them.
Speaker 5: It is everywhere it's you birthday. Birthdays are great, right,
Speaker 5: It's a ritual and we all have them, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. But it's a ritual. You chan't you're
Speaker 5: you know, you're casting a spell and then you're blowing
Speaker 5: out the candles. You don't think.
Speaker 6: About those things, do you? Before you really start to
Speaker 6: wake up? You don't think about those things for a second.
Speaker 5: Oh no way, man. Like, my daughter went to a
Speaker 5: friend's birthday party, and I'm watching everybody seeing Happy birthday
Speaker 5: to her friend and give her gifts and blow out
Speaker 5: all these candles, and it's it's like it was really
Speaker 5: the first time since all this has happened where we
Speaker 5: went to a big event. I mean there was twenty
Speaker 5: kids that are singing happy birthday to this this this girl,
Speaker 5: and it's just like, holy cow. I mean, this totally
Speaker 5: makes sense, but you have to have an open mind
Speaker 5: to like absorb it. I mean, if you're still on
Speaker 5: the closed mind blue pill, you just and you're not
Speaker 5: going to see it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that leads me to my next question to you,
Speaker 6: and we'll kind of get into flat Earth and your
Speaker 6: your your silver bullets is trying to convey like here,
Speaker 6: you and I are what we've had been in this
Speaker 6: conversation for the last thirty five minutes. And if you
Speaker 6: and I were sitting like at a mall in the
Speaker 6: in the food court and somebody next to us was
Speaker 6: listening to this, they would probably pick up their popeyes
Speaker 6: and walk away, or or they're big Mac.
Speaker 4: Or whatever.
Speaker 6: Conveying this information and it's not We should never hold
Speaker 6: ourselves as we have more knowledge than you, right, because
Speaker 6: there's no quicker way to chase somebody away than to
Speaker 6: belittle them. But have you had any success trying to,
Speaker 6: you know, convey this type of information to people who
Speaker 6: you know, may not you know, might be new to
Speaker 6: the truth community or have never really delved into it whatsoever.
Speaker 5: Not not not per se, like like somebody that was
Speaker 5: brand news, Like all all my experiences has happened with,
Speaker 5: like somebody that kind of has an idea, but the
Speaker 5: one that really gets them would be like flatter. So
Speaker 5: we talk about a lot of things like I guess
Speaker 5: I take that back. I'll take that back because my dad,
Speaker 5: my dad is sixty nine years old. He watched the
Speaker 5: moon landing on TV and to him, we landed on
Speaker 5: the moon, end of story, and he wants, like through
Speaker 5: my childhood. He kind of ruled with an oah, like
Speaker 5: an iron fist style, and he goes, we landed on
Speaker 5: the moon. You need to believe that. Sorry Dad, Sorry, sorry, man,
Speaker 5: I just just I said, do you believe? Do you
Speaker 5: believe in the Bible. Do you believe in God? And
Speaker 5: he goes yes. I said that, how can you believe
Speaker 5: that we went to the moon. It's that simple, Like
Speaker 5: it's like when it boils down to it, it's that simple.
Speaker 5: We live in a firmament. There's the you know, the
Speaker 5: he God places the stars, the sun and the moon
Speaker 5: and wandering stars in the firmament. In the story, it's
Speaker 5: on four pillars. There's I think there's what two hundred
Speaker 5: verses that that prove flat Earth. There's two hundred of them,
Speaker 5: and it's it's like that's where we live. No, we
Speaker 5: landed on the moon. And there was a Joe Rogan episode,
Speaker 5: which is funny because I went to go pick my
Speaker 5: daughter up yesterday that I was listening to with Matt Walsh.
Speaker 5: I can't remember the number on it. And they get
Speaker 5: into flat Earth, they get into the moon landing, and
Speaker 5: Joe Rogan goes on about like he plays he plays smart,
Speaker 5: he plays the middle. He has a very big influencer
Speaker 5: out there. He plays the middle, in my opinion, and
Speaker 5: he won't say anything about flat Earth, but you could
Speaker 5: tell he doesn't really believe that we landed on the moon.
Speaker 5: There's the Van Allen radiation Belt. I can't remember the
Speaker 5: operation where we tried to blow up.
Speaker 6: Oh, it was a Operation Dominic, which was Operation Fishbowl
Speaker 6: was a subset of Dominic.
Speaker 4: That's when they were trying to blow through the firmament.
Speaker 5: Right. But then there's but this one, what he talked
Speaker 5: about was a little bit different when we actually tried
Speaker 5: to blow up the Van Allen radiation belt. And I
Speaker 5: can't remember what that one was, but it's a I
Speaker 5: can't remember what it called it, but that's uh. That
Speaker 5: one was crazy and they said that we made the
Speaker 5: Van Allen belt stronger. You're trying to like blow up
Speaker 5: nukes up there. And the thing with nuclear weapons is
Speaker 5: you have to believe that we have nuclear weapons a
Speaker 5: great correct, Okay, like you actually have to believe that
Speaker 5: we have nuclear weapons to go up there and blow
Speaker 5: them up like that. That I'm not and I'll be honest,
Speaker 5: I'm on the fence about nuclear weapons. That's a total
Speaker 5: awesome control piece, total awesome control yep, you know. And
Speaker 5: but it's also like where I have the problem with
Speaker 5: that we have nukes is because Hiroshima and Nagasaki were
Speaker 5: huge bombs and there was only like one reporter that
Speaker 5: was able to go there. So like, there's things that
Speaker 5: you have problems with like that that make you doubt,
Speaker 5: make you question.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I don't know if I've mentioned on this podcast
Speaker 6: before or not, but I encourage everyone to look at
Speaker 6: the Tokyo firebombing from March nineteen forty five the results
Speaker 6: of that, and look at Nagasaki and Hiroshima. And I
Speaker 6: can't remember the name of the reporter. He was either
Speaker 6: like a Life magazine which was big back in the forties,
Speaker 6: or even a New York Times reporter. But if you
Speaker 6: look at his bio even on Wikipedia, he's part of
Speaker 6: a secret society. I think he was Yale Skull and
Speaker 6: Bones or something like that. And then there's reports, you know,
Speaker 6: a day two later, people are out selling flowers, you know,
Speaker 6: picking stuff up, doing their thing. For me, you know,
Speaker 6: I was born in the late sixties, so I was
Speaker 6: probably eleven or twelve when The Day After, which was
Speaker 6: a TV show that portrayed a nuclear missile going off
Speaker 6: in the United States, and it was I think at
Speaker 6: the time, one of the most watched TV shows in
Speaker 6: American history. It was like one of those two hour
Speaker 6: ABC Monday Night specials and like literally everybody the next
Speaker 6: school was walking around like zombies, like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: we're doomed. And then, you know, I went to the
Speaker 6: schools that had the fallout shelter my parents. They were
Speaker 6: told to hide under the desks when they were in school.
Speaker 6: Then you have the movies that reinforce, you know, you know,
Speaker 6: terrorists with the nuclear codes. I mean, you could probably
Speaker 6: name a hundred movies like that, but do they really exist?
Speaker 6: And like you said, it is a great control piece.
Speaker 6: And listen, if they came on the TV today, it
Speaker 6: could be Trump, it could be Biden, you know, insert
Speaker 6: your selected hero here. If they came on and said
Speaker 6: that we were on the brink of nuclear war and
Speaker 6: everybody needed to shelter up, ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 6: of the people would run and hide in their house.
Speaker 5: Where about the new her videos back in the day, right,
Speaker 5: that were like models a camera right, the camera in
Speaker 5: the States so still they stayed so still, and everything
Speaker 5: else blew by it.
Speaker 4: And you could correlate that to the moon landings.
Speaker 6: You know, I think it was Ohen Benjamin that you know,
Speaker 6: rip to the guy who was left behind on the moon,
Speaker 6: who had to film, you know these things taken off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the moon is such a hard thing. And I
Speaker 5: do you remember the lunar module. Of course it was
Speaker 5: forty model million, the model though, I built that thing
Speaker 5: like three or four times, like the model when I
Speaker 5: was a kid. Really and oh yeah, like they had
Speaker 5: a model where like you had like the moon thing
Speaker 5: and then you were able to like paint all this
Speaker 5: stuff and put like the gold penfoil nice crap crap.
Speaker 5: I mean like I must have built that three or
Speaker 5: four times when I was a kid as a model,
Speaker 5: you know. And the deception I guess with that, I mean,
Speaker 5: like the moon landing. I'm so hardcore, like we didn't go,
Speaker 5: we didn't, we didn't, we didn't have a hit a
Speaker 5: golf ball. There's there's there's nothing, there's nothing. There's just
Speaker 5: absolutely not. I honestly think that the moon and the
Speaker 5: sun are the same size, right, and uh, it's just
Speaker 5: a lesser light. The rule the night in MasterCard master Card.
Speaker 5: That's always what I think about. The moon and the
Speaker 5: sun is a master Card logo point. That's that's what
Speaker 5: I think of. You know, some people go, no, that's
Speaker 5: the twin moon or the twin the second sun. But
Speaker 5: because that stuff's out there. But I'm like, now, the
Speaker 5: sun and the moon same size. They tell us it's
Speaker 5: different objects because there's those esoteric measurements, but nope, same size.
Speaker 5: Believe what you see. Don't listen to deception.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I can show you whether it's
Speaker 6: Google Chrome. So many logos that that have either you know,
Speaker 6: a cult uh you know, symbolism in it, but most
Speaker 6: corporate logos are either uh you know, to the occult
Speaker 6: or uh like like Manley p. Halt said, you know,
Speaker 6: once you can see the symbolism that the available fall
Speaker 6: from your eyes.
Speaker 4: And that's a good one.
Speaker 6: I don't remember seeing that one before, but apparently the
Speaker 6: MasterCard logo evolution.
Speaker 4: Began in the late forties.
Speaker 6: That's something I'm gonna have to take a take a
Speaker 6: road trip down and kind of look into that.
Speaker 4: That that's pretty good. That's that makes sense.
Speaker 5: It's but it's it's out there, right like uh Google, Google,
Speaker 5: uh not well Google Chrome sixty six, Monster sixty sixty six. Uh, Gmail,
Speaker 5: The Sacred m on the Mason's thing.
Speaker 6: Yep, yep, the Mason's little what do you call apron
Speaker 6: on it under the g apron.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and they hang it down low right where
Speaker 5: like the womb is uh uh there, there's there's They're everywhere,
Speaker 5: and that's that's the game they play, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: and everything. It's funny how everything stems from like flat
Speaker 5: Earth got me into this and then it just opens
Speaker 5: up your eyes to everything else. I mean, and everybody's
Speaker 5: journey is a little bit different. Where they buy in, right,
Speaker 5: they buy in at nine to eleven, they buy in
Speaker 5: it at the moon landing wherever they buy in. But
Speaker 5: like wherever you buy in and the truth or stuff
Speaker 5: you get, you get exposed to everything, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: you just got to do a little bit of research.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Nine eleven was I'll hit this real quick. Nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: I was a senior in high school and it was on.
Speaker 5: I felt bad for him, but I had to watch
Speaker 5: it on every TV. It completely like like like suck
Speaker 5: the life out of you for that day because you
Speaker 5: had to let me on everything. It was just it
Speaker 5: was exhausting. It was it was like life. I felt like,
Speaker 5: because you have a life force. I felt like my
Speaker 5: life force got drained when I look when I think
Speaker 5: back about it, on all that stuff that comes out
Speaker 5: of a television that tells a lie for programming. It's
Speaker 5: just that one is totally an Oklahoma City bombing. My
Speaker 5: grandmother lived a block and a half away from that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so like I can remember going to that when I
Speaker 5: was a kid. She lived in Yukon. Maybe wasn't a
Speaker 5: block and a half, it was really close. May it
Speaker 5: was a mile and a half. But still she like
Speaker 5: she goes, it knocked pictures off my wall, and it
Speaker 5: cracks some dry wall when that explosion went off. There's
Speaker 5: just there's there's so many things that are just deception.
Speaker 6: Control it is, and very few of these type of
Speaker 6: events organic. But like the Emmanuel family said, the evil
Speaker 6: people out of Chicago, whether it's organic or plan, never
Speaker 6: let a good crisis go to waste. And they don't
Speaker 6: they don't. But really most of these type of things
Speaker 6: are planned.
Speaker 4: I was at.
Speaker 6: The Oklahoma City Memorial this April nineteenth, which was the
Speaker 6: geez I guess it was the thirty first anniversary.
Speaker 4: Was no.
Speaker 6: Ninety five, so it would have been the twenty ninth anniversary,
Speaker 6: And you know, we talk about all these you know,
Speaker 6: type of events nine to eleven and Waco, on and
Speaker 6: on and on, but to actually see family members there
Speaker 6: almost thirty years later, and you can see their faces
Speaker 6: that the pain is still there the same it was,
Speaker 6: you know, thirty years ago. It takes a different type
Speaker 6: of meaning and it you know, it got me a
Speaker 6: little upset because we talk about these things and we
Speaker 6: get excited when we connect the dots. But when you
Speaker 6: realize that these are real human beings that are being
Speaker 6: used at the expense of this evil agenda, uh, it
Speaker 6: gets you a little upset.
Speaker 5: It does. Like like nine to eleven, I can't tell
Speaker 5: you how many people died there, but they died it
Speaker 5: basically vain for nothing because they needed somebody, They needed
Speaker 5: money to get lost insurance things. People got rich, you
Speaker 5: know people, people got rich because of that. And that's
Speaker 5: that's in what world? Does that make sense? You?
Speaker 6: All those airline shorts, a lot of people made a
Speaker 6: lot of money missing gold.
Speaker 4: You could argue about that.
Speaker 5: It does and the and it it goes so much
Speaker 5: deeper than that, because they go into surveillance like AI
Speaker 5: is a big thing now. I honestly think that the
Speaker 5: the scam dimick with without a bunch of stuff like that,
Speaker 5: like the new guy that just got that shot, that
Speaker 5: United Healthcare CEO. They were able to get like he
Speaker 5: had no mask on, you know, and then like I'm
Speaker 5: sure that like every street camera they go down, they
Speaker 5: go left, next camera, they go right next camera, and
Speaker 5: they've picked him up, They've scanned him. There's we're all
Speaker 5: done to that. Yeah, that extent.
Speaker 6: If he doesn't get caught, they don't want him to
Speaker 6: get caught. It's that simple.
Speaker 5: It's that simple. There's there's another good Joe Rogan, which
Speaker 5: because I pulled up out of the rabbit hole before this,
Speaker 5: before we had this conversation just so I could kind
Speaker 5: of like clear my mind and then bring myself back
Speaker 5: into it, and I listened to a few good good
Speaker 5: Joe Rogan's. There was a Joe Rogan. It's episode twenty
Speaker 5: two thirty seven, I believe with Matt Bins and that episode,
Speaker 5: I'm going to definitely listen to it again because it
Speaker 5: will go in about like how how far that they've
Speaker 5: been surveilling and monitoring us since like the forties, that's
Speaker 5: how far this? I mean, he just openly gives it out.
Speaker 6: I believe that one hundred percent the world changed, like
Speaker 6: you said, and it's normally after a big, significant event.
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, the Civil War was a huge type
Speaker 6: of event. There was a law between a lull lul
Speaker 6: l between you know, sixty five and seventy one, but
Speaker 6: they took that time to get the legal ramification straight.
Speaker 6: And I think you know, the organic law of DC
Speaker 6: and all these other type of things, you know, the
Speaker 6: United States becoming an organization, the Fourteenth Amendment in those
Speaker 6: type of things that of course, nineteen was it, nineteen
Speaker 6: thirteen the Federal Reserve and nine to eleven. Of course
Speaker 6: that that brought up the Patriot Act, which was responsible
Speaker 6: for you know, and again in times like that, you said,
Speaker 6: how exhausted we were. People were in feel calling fear,
Speaker 6: everyone's calling their their loved ones.
Speaker 4: Are you okay, are you good?
Speaker 6: You know, rumors were running rampant, and people were willing
Speaker 6: to give up their their security.
Speaker 4: Or their liberties for their security.
Speaker 6: And you know, one of the reasons I feel we
Speaker 6: have to, you know, as we say, wake people up
Speaker 6: as quickly as we can, because I do believe the
Speaker 6: next type of big event will will be the one
Speaker 6: will be the game changer that whether it's you know,
Speaker 6: to bring in complete central bank digital coin, which will
Speaker 6: of course lead to the mark of the beast. People
Speaker 6: really have to be cognizant before jumping on, no matter
Speaker 6: how desperate. You know, that guy on the television, whether
Speaker 6: it's Trump or whoever's looking at the TV telling you
Speaker 6: that we're doomed if we don't do this, you better
Speaker 6: take time and use discernment before making the next decision.
Speaker 5: Oh oh, absolutely, you know, absolutely. I mean you have
Speaker 5: to make think about it, make a good cognitive decision
Speaker 5: about stuff that's would like like like crypto real quick,
Speaker 5: crypto's going off the hook, Like do you get in
Speaker 5: it's unregulated right now, make a little bit of fake
Speaker 5: money to buy gold. You know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: because that's going to be about our silver. And that's
Speaker 5: gonna be about the only thing that happens when when
Speaker 5: this does go, stuff hits the fan just gonna be
Speaker 5: worth anything more silver last week yep, yep. You know
Speaker 5: I mean that that has value. Yep. The paper stuff doesn't.
Speaker 5: That they can't. It's debt.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, go ahead, I'll let you finish that.
Speaker 5: No, I'm understanding, that's just debt. That's all I was
Speaker 5: gonna say.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when people, you know, if things do truly,
Speaker 6: you know, hit the proverbial fan. People are gonna want
Speaker 6: things of substance, right, They're gonna want to barter with things.
Speaker 6: I forget which movie it was, but you know people
Speaker 6: were trying to get out. Maybe it was like a tooth,
Speaker 6: that twenty twelve movie where the world's ending and the
Speaker 6: guy's like, I'll give you one hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 6: get on the helicopteries like that doesn't do anything for
Speaker 6: me right now, and he just kind of takes off
Speaker 6: things of substance. That's what you know. You know, we
Speaker 6: gather seeds and everything else. Even eggs would hold high
Speaker 6: value in s HTF type of situation where money, again
Speaker 6: it can only do so much, only do so much
Speaker 6: obviously right now in times of com absolutely, But crypto
Speaker 6: is something that I've been told by many people you
Speaker 6: should jump into.
Speaker 5: Do this.
Speaker 6: It's the next thing I just don't to me. Crypto is.
Speaker 4: Money.
Speaker 6: Before I understood what the Federal Reserve is, it's something
Speaker 6: out of nothing.
Speaker 5: Well, it's like a credit card, right, I mean, they
Speaker 5: like a credit card, they use your and they're able
Speaker 5: to like make up money.
Speaker 6: I mean, they could pull the rug out from you.
Speaker 6: With within a moment's notice and you wouldn't know it, right.
Speaker 5: Uh, Crypto, they say, is a little bit more secure
Speaker 5: than that. Like there's because like it's like they've they've
Speaker 5: come up with like the like the way that block that.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not an expert in all this stuff,
Speaker 5: but like like a blockchain, you can't get stolen, you
Speaker 5: can't you can't hack it. Like it's it's it's secure,
Speaker 5: but it's unregulated, you know what I mean. So, like
Speaker 5: I heard news that like x RP so XRP is
Speaker 5: taken off, Uh Carrie Katy Perry is going to accept
Speaker 5: XRP coins for one of her concerts. So it's but
Speaker 5: this is the buy in, right, that's that's that's big
Speaker 5: big corporation, big big Oh what's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 5: She's on the other side, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, she's part of the club.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: And then this wants you to buy into this. But
Speaker 5: like could you make a couple of bucks? That's something
Speaker 5: you got to play around with, you know. But I
Speaker 5: mean that's the hard part. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And if you if you're listening and you've done
Speaker 6: well with crypto, God bless you. It's just something I
Speaker 6: don't get involved with things I'm not knowledgeable in. So uh,
Speaker 6: I prefer just you know, debit cards and uh my
Speaker 6: little gold and silver stash that I have.
Speaker 5: That's it. I mean, it goes back to without without
Speaker 5: any risk. There's reward, right, So if you're not willing
Speaker 5: to take the risk, you're not willing to take the
Speaker 5: reward exactly exactly, you know, and it's lifelong lesson right
Speaker 5: age old or age old age old lesson in there.
Speaker 5: But it's you know.
Speaker 6: I wanted to kind of float back into the flat earth.
Speaker 6: Was there a pardon me, a particular quest of evidence
Speaker 6: that was like, okay, you know that this is I
Speaker 6: think I might have been lied to the last forty years.
Speaker 5: So when I hit your your your podcast, why the
Speaker 5: lie was the first one, And like I said, I
Speaker 5: binged him when I was I was flying to Oklahoma
Speaker 5: and Oklahoma's flat. I mean, it's it's pretty flat out there.
Speaker 5: You can see a long ways that kind of like
Speaker 5: it just it just kind of like snowballs from there.
Speaker 5: And then when we flew home and I live on
Speaker 5: I live on Lake Quarterlane and I live so the
Speaker 5: you can't see the very top the very north side
Speaker 5: to the very south side, because it kind of it
Speaker 5: kind of has like a little boot shape to it,
Speaker 5: right and uh uh when when that happens it or
Speaker 5: when you when you when you go through that it, Uh,
Speaker 5: you can't see everything yet one time, you know. But
Speaker 5: there's the Harrison Slough, which that's where I live at.
Speaker 5: Lake Cordlane is twenty six miles long.
Speaker 4: Okay, so here south of Cordlane.
Speaker 5: Yep, I'm south of Quarterlane.
Speaker 4: By Hayburn State Park. We'll say it again, by Hayburn
Speaker 4: State Park.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Mount Mallory, Like Harrison is right across the uh.
Speaker 5: Like when I look out in the lake, Harrison is
Speaker 5: just across the lake. But I haven't actually it makes
Speaker 5: me I haven't actually like figured out the business of that.
Speaker 5: But we watched their fireworks all the time, like on
Speaker 5: fourth eachly New Year's stuff like that. We can see
Speaker 5: the fireworks this great, and I would guess they were
Speaker 5: probably like I mean, it's not there, not that far,
Speaker 5: but maybe three to five miles. It only takes you
Speaker 5: like ten minutes by both to get there, not very long. Well,
Speaker 5: when you get out there on the main thing of
Speaker 5: the lake, I mean, and you're coming up on the resort,
Speaker 5: I can see it as soon as like we come
Speaker 5: out and we're not that far out of our bay.
Speaker 5: You know, Like that was a huge thing for me.
Speaker 5: It's like you just can see way too far on
Speaker 5: flat level water.
Speaker 4: That's a big one.
Speaker 6: And and I try to tell people who I'm trying to
Speaker 6: conversate with about just kind of bring them in into
Speaker 6: flat earth. Is you know, I would say probably close
Speaker 6: to fifty percent of the people don't believe we ever
Speaker 6: went to the Moon. And I try to tell them, well,
Speaker 6: if man's greatest accomplishment is a lie, then shouldn't we
Speaker 6: really put everything else under the microscope exactly exactly?
Speaker 5: But they they hold on to that, they hold on
Speaker 5: to that believe that we landed out of the Moon.
Speaker 5: I guess I don't know, but.
Speaker 6: If we really did, by now we should be literally
Speaker 6: like selling apartments on the moon right in these you know,
Speaker 6: air conditioned you know, where they can keep the temperature
Speaker 6: at the perfect sixty eight degrees and you know, people
Speaker 6: can go to the driving range and hit a golf
Speaker 6: ball seven hundred yards, these type of things, because every
Speaker 6: single other technology we've had, I remember playing Atari twenty
Speaker 6: six hundred when I was a twelve year old and
Speaker 6: now we're playing PlayStation five.
Speaker 4: It's you know, almost.
Speaker 6: Everything else in this world has progressed except space travel.
Speaker 4: How is that possible.
Speaker 5: Because we lost the information conveniently?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I forgot the most important piece of technology ever.
Speaker 6: We just you know, Johnny the janitor accidentally throughout the
Speaker 6: wrong box.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all a hoax, you know. And it's like, like,
Speaker 5: I think it was easier to pull the wool over
Speaker 5: people's eyes back then because the media told a story,
Speaker 5: not the story right like they told they told everybody
Speaker 5: what they wanted them to know and showed them what
Speaker 5: they wanted to know. Back back in there there's three
Speaker 5: the only three new news outlets. That's cool, yep, it's
Speaker 5: it's today. You have you don't you don't have that.
Speaker 5: But we were going off of like that whole technology
Speaker 5: of back then, and it's it's uh, it's it's it's
Speaker 5: it's hard. One of my favorite things about the moon
Speaker 5: landing is, and you you've said it on the show before,
Speaker 5: but where the is it? Buzz Aldrin, put your hand
Speaker 5: on the Holy Bible and swear that you're actually landed
Speaker 5: on the Moon and you do it, it's back like
Speaker 5: he's going to hit him, you know, because it's or
Speaker 5: is it was it buzz.
Speaker 6: And then another astronaut's sun threatened to pardon me to
Speaker 6: call the c I a.
Speaker 7: Yeah mm hmm like like that. That to me that
Speaker 7: that's enough, you know, to show the hopes that we
Speaker 7: didn't we didn't land out there. You know, it's it's
Speaker 7: not a dusty space rock. It's just a lesser light
Speaker 7: to rule the night.
Speaker 4: And of all the all the things.
Speaker 6: You know, we talk about the six silver bullets and
Speaker 6: I'll turn the mic over to you here to give
Speaker 6: me yours. You know, they tell us that the moon
Speaker 6: is just a rock that reflects sunlight. Man, at some
Speaker 6: point we got to sit down and talk about these
Speaker 6: things people, because listen, if you do believe that intellect,
Speaker 6: myself and Robert and most people listening to this podcast.
Speaker 6: Maybe you're listening for the first time and you're thinking,
Speaker 6: what are these people talking about? Go back to episode
Speaker 6: one and start there.
Speaker 4: Give it a chance.
Speaker 6: But you know, at some point, going back to everything
Speaker 6: we talked about, you should be angry that seventy million
Speaker 6: dollars of your tax money is going to these liars.
Speaker 4: Let's call them what they are. They're liars.
Speaker 6: They're deceivers every single day, and they're keeping people away
Speaker 6: from God. How can you not be upset at that?
Speaker 5: And that's it. Like one of my biggest things that
Speaker 5: I tell friends is that like after World War two,
Speaker 5: I believe, I mean I wasn't even like born then, right,
Speaker 5: but after.
Speaker 8: World War two, like you started to like like like
Speaker 8: hear stories about how like the Bible started to come
Speaker 8: out of schools or didn't get taught as much, and
Speaker 8: it kind of drifted away, and you have a lot
Speaker 8: more people that.
Speaker 5: Are like and I'm one of those people. I'm one
Speaker 5: of those people that did not have like church or
Speaker 5: God or anything like that put into my life at
Speaker 5: an early age, you know. And you can see how
Speaker 5: the like the decline of a population disrespect, you know,
Speaker 5: people don't have like the respect that like you hear
Speaker 5: the old time guys have things like that, and it's
Speaker 5: because the Bible or the teachings are are not there
Speaker 5: like they used to be.
Speaker 6: And that's such a great point because if you go
Speaker 6: back and look, so many of the people who left
Speaker 6: England left there because they were persecuted for religion and
Speaker 6: they wanted to worship, and the Puritans were one of those,
Speaker 6: and they taught school in line with God's teachings. Then
Speaker 6: that's when once again you said earlier, which is also
Speaker 6: such a good point, is the illusion of freedom. Some
Speaker 6: people say, you live in an open air prison, right,
Speaker 6: as long as you're under the illusion that you're free.
Speaker 6: And then the government comes in and says, well, we
Speaker 6: have to separate, you know, church and state. And so
Speaker 6: we got to pull prayer out of schools just you know,
Speaker 6: because of legal issues, and you can't really have a
Speaker 6: b and then you understand, you know, people say, well,
Speaker 6: it's constitution. We got to follow the constitution. So once
Speaker 6: again you're you're going against God's law in favor of
Speaker 6: man's law.
Speaker 4: So what's it going to be?
Speaker 5: Well, and that's it, right, they say, trust in God
Speaker 5: or trust a man? Right, And it's everything that we've
Speaker 5: put in place, it will never stand the test of time.
Speaker 5: It's like what nature and what God has made right.
Speaker 5: So it's it's church. And here's here. When I first started,
Speaker 5: I have a couple of problems, like I have my
Speaker 5: own relationship with God. I do believe he does exist. Uh,
Speaker 5: you you can have like a and I might get
Speaker 5: a lot of this wrong on congregation because you and
Speaker 5: I are talking about the Bible or or or God,
Speaker 5: and it's it's to me that's more organic than for
Speaker 5: me to go to a church, not saying all churches
Speaker 5: are like this. That's a corporation that is tax free
Speaker 5: because it's a bigger part. It's a it's a caged
Speaker 5: in the bigger like corporation wheel. You know. It's like
Speaker 5: that's where I have problems. Like the Vatican. I would
Speaker 5: just there's there's so many things wrong with the Vatican.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think to your point, we saw a
Speaker 6: lot of that during COVID. You know the states you
Speaker 6: had to close down not every state, but many states,
Speaker 6: you know, and if they didn't they could face losing
Speaker 6: their their five oh one c three or four whichever
Speaker 6: it is that that you know, churches fall under and
Speaker 6: they were forced to especially not necessarily. And I should
Speaker 6: make this clear, not all the pastors themselves, but you know,
Speaker 6: if you're in a denomination, well you know, the Methodist
Speaker 6: Church or whatever it could be, from up top, you know,
Speaker 6: you're basically told you have to shut down, right because
Speaker 6: the pastors would probably face losing their jobs as well.
Speaker 6: They tried to, you know, adapt and overcome. You know,
Speaker 6: I have one of these little one wat things where
Speaker 6: I can broadcast or radio signal out for about one
Speaker 6: square mile, and they use that broadcast on Facebook. But
Speaker 6: at the same time, a lot of people need fellowship
Speaker 6: and that was taken away from them, you know, and
Speaker 6: it normalized people just facebooking church or things of that nature.
Speaker 6: I think it should be important, but it also doesn't
Speaker 6: have to be in a building with people you don't
Speaker 6: necessarily melt with per se, like you know, you and
Speaker 6: I right now, like you were saying, small groups gathering
Speaker 6: at a park or in someone's house, that can be
Speaker 6: just as if not more powerful, right Because a lot
Speaker 6: of people go to a large church you see these megachurches.
Speaker 6: You're in a church with five thousand people and you're
Speaker 6: being spoken to instead of being part of the conversation.
Speaker 5: And that's it. And they talk about I mean, I've
Speaker 5: gone to church with like my grandmother and it was
Speaker 5: like it's always what they talk about, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Like you don't there's no conversation about it,
Speaker 5: there's no like you don't have I felt like you
Speaker 5: never got to throw your like a like opinion or
Speaker 5: how like you you took a certain you know, a
Speaker 5: couple verses out of the Bible, and what that meant
Speaker 5: to you? It was, it was you know, it's on
Speaker 5: a bigger scale, so it takes the personalization out of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and listen, everybody's you know, yeah, we were taught
Speaker 6: Maslow's hierarchy of needs in college.
Speaker 4: Everybody does have different needs.
Speaker 6: Some people need the fellowship, and of course if you
Speaker 6: have something that works for you, God bless you for sure.
Speaker 6: But you know, to me being personal and I told
Speaker 6: a friend this who was actually a pastor that I've
Speaker 6: known for forty years since i was a little, you know,
Speaker 6: little boy, I told him I've kind of walked away
Speaker 6: from church, but I've never felt closer to God. And
Speaker 6: he understood. I wasn't trying to disrespect the church or
Speaker 6: him as a pastor or anything like that. I just
Speaker 6: felt that it forced me to get in the Bible
Speaker 6: and to conclude for myself, because a lot of people
Speaker 6: will just accept what they're told about the Bible without
Speaker 6: doing any research themselves.
Speaker 5: Well exactly, and again, Jordan Maxwell has a lot to
Speaker 5: say about that. I like a lot of his stuff,
Speaker 5: like the Loem thing, which is an hour image instead
Speaker 5: of one image. There's a lot of things like that
Speaker 5: that it's just opened your eyes up to it.
Speaker 6: Let's kind of transition over to your six silver bullets.
Speaker 6: You know, if you have a conversation with someone and
Speaker 6: you have six proofs to kind of share with somebody,
Speaker 6: what what would they be?
Speaker 5: The first one I start with is like I always
Speaker 5: ask them if they're if they if they're read the Bible.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not proving any but there is uh
Speaker 5: two hundred flat earth, you know, versus in the Bible
Speaker 5: that that prove flat earth. And then the second one
Speaker 5: is is I tell them I live on the lake
Speaker 5: and I can just see too far on flat water.
Speaker 5: It doesn't there's there's no curvature. Water doesn't stick to
Speaker 5: the outside of the ball unless it's in a container,
Speaker 5: and that's the only time it takes up a raised shape.
Speaker 4: I should say, that's then can I interrupt for one second?
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 6: That's important word to use container to get people to understand,
Speaker 6: right that that that is such it's an important word
Speaker 6: to use in a container. Right take take a bottle
Speaker 6: of water poured on the concrete right and it just runs.
Speaker 6: But get yourself a little TopWare bowl, pour the water
Speaker 6: in there.
Speaker 4: Visuals.
Speaker 6: You know they talk about there's different people learn differently.
Speaker 6: Some read some visual some people by doing it. That's
Speaker 6: words going back to full circle to words that meaning.
Speaker 4: Container.
Speaker 6: That's an important word to use when when discussing that
Speaker 6: home run, good job.
Speaker 5: And it's just this just made me think it's something here.
Speaker 5: So in twenty ten, I living in living in Orange
Speaker 5: County and we were putting up cars land. I was
Speaker 5: a union and I on my current and it didn't
Speaker 5: even hit me, but there was it had rained and
Speaker 5: this this footing had filled up with waters run off
Speaker 5: of water. Water always finds it level. And the superintendent
Speaker 5: came over and we were having problems with a column.
Speaker 5: Can't remember the scenario, and he took this level and
Speaker 5: he put the bottom of the level. He leveled it
Speaker 5: off the level of the water. And I looked at
Speaker 5: him like, are you stue that level? And he goes,
Speaker 5: there ain't gonna be nothing flatter than that water. And
Speaker 5: that was twenty ten. Wow. And I probably didn't think
Speaker 5: about that until, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like.
Speaker 5: A couple of months ago.
Speaker 6: But it's important for those things because they do kind
Speaker 6: of subliminally get planted in your mind. Me and flat
Speaker 6: Earth Dave had kind of a similar thing. And whether
Speaker 6: it's junior high school or whatever, where the teacher swings
Speaker 6: the bucket around and he says that's gravity, and.
Speaker 4: You're like, well, wait a second.
Speaker 6: If that's gravity, why isn't the bucket facing out and
Speaker 6: still holding the water?
Speaker 5: Right right? And gravity's only a theory, we haven't. Gravity's
Speaker 5: not law right right right, It's still only a theory.
Speaker 5: When you tell people that, you'll watch their face melt
Speaker 5: like they don't get it. No, gravity's real, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: you better check that again. Gravity's still in the theory stage.
Speaker 5: There's other things that it can explain that too.
Speaker 6: No, all right, continue, you can continue on with your
Speaker 6: silver below, all right.
Speaker 5: The next one is that and I can't remember it,
Speaker 5: but the thermo dynamics law, like you can't have a
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna use it goes back to the
Speaker 5: same like the container in a vacuum. I think it's
Speaker 5: the third law.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The third law states that a system's entropy approaches a
Speaker 6: constant value as the temperature approach is absolute zero. But
Speaker 6: it talks about with the exception of non crystalline solids,
Speaker 6: and then the first and second basically talk about perpetual
Speaker 6: motion et cetera.
Speaker 5: Right, but isn't there one that talks about like your
Speaker 5: it has to be an a vacuum without a container,
Speaker 5: like you can't have like basically it's about the atmosphere.
Speaker 6: All right, right, you can't have Yeah, of course, Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's a big one.
Speaker 5: Yeah for me. The rainbow. The rainbow, like if you
Speaker 5: have a straight glass door and the sunlight hit hits
Speaker 5: that glass door in the prism comes off of it,
Speaker 5: it's straight.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's a great straight Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know you have a rainbow. Right, there's no prodigal
Speaker 5: on either side. But it follows the firmament that we
Speaker 5: live underneath absolutely. And the restrictions to Antarctica is is
Speaker 5: a huge one for me because we're at war with
Speaker 5: some of these countries that we haven't agree a treaty
Speaker 5: until I think twenty forty, and with about like not
Speaker 5: going to Antarctica, with Antarctica being the wall, the ice wall,
Speaker 5: the end of the.
Speaker 6: Firmament, and so I always try to remember to ask
Speaker 6: this question. With that law, you think they are keeping
Speaker 6: people away because they would eventually find the end of
Speaker 6: the firmament. So you don't believe that there is life
Speaker 6: on the other side of the ice wall.
Speaker 5: There's there's they stated as passageways, right, they call it
Speaker 5: outer space, not upper space.
Speaker 4: There you go, right, outer space, you know.
Speaker 5: So there's I like the sometimes you get the idea
Speaker 5: of like the it's the Lost History of Flat Earth
Speaker 5: that shows you the negative on the moon. We're just
Speaker 5: a little bit out of that whole thing. And then
Speaker 5: you have like maybe a firmament inside of a firmament
Speaker 5: inside of a firmament type thing, like there's more than
Speaker 5: one firmament, and then the wandering planets or other stars.
Speaker 5: I mean it can go, it can go on and
Speaker 5: on and on and on, but the one that we
Speaker 5: live underneath is uh ah, there's restrictions. But i there
Speaker 5: has to be something on the other side, maybe besides water.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but of course you know they'll they'll never let
Speaker 6: us because again we comply with the matrix and we
Speaker 6: just accept what we're told as a whole right.
Speaker 5: Well, as a whole. I mean, there's so many things
Speaker 5: like like one of my favorite quote quotes is, uh,
Speaker 5: history is just a series of lies that's agreed upon. Yep,
Speaker 5: spot on that is that is I mean, it's his story, right,
Speaker 5: and we just have to follow what they like you
Speaker 5: don't have to, but like that, they want us to
Speaker 5: follow what they tell us.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: And nothing going on over here, nothing to.
Speaker 4: See here, move along as they say.
Speaker 5: Right, that's it, you know, like the Grand Canyon. The
Speaker 5: Grand Canyon has places that we can't go why, you know,
Speaker 5: there's just I don't know, there's this has been an
Speaker 5: like an awesome journey, the flat Earth truth or stuff.
Speaker 5: I said, I can't think my girl enough because she's
Speaker 5: the one that got all the ball rolling. That's awesome,
Speaker 5: you know. And it's it's I you have guests that
Speaker 5: and I like, I feel bad bad, but I feel
Speaker 5: for them because they they don't have anybody to talk to,
Speaker 5: and it's it's hard. It's a hard world out there.
Speaker 5: Like I have close, close, close friends, like I've known
Speaker 5: them since fifth sixth grade. I don't talk about this stuff, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't know, like yourself, do you have
Speaker 6: you tested the waters and got immediately pulled back and
Speaker 6: you're like, you know, it's you know, the friendship means
Speaker 6: so much. You've known them for twenty thirty forty years.
Speaker 6: You just realize you could just tell from their reaction.
Speaker 6: It's just something you can't really toe the line, you
Speaker 6: know with these folks, right.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean that's like we can go into some
Speaker 5: really deep conversations about a lot of things. As soon
Speaker 5: as you bring up flatter, I mean, as soon as it, like,
Speaker 5: the conversation goes stale, it stops. And I love this
Speaker 5: this guy like a brother, and he'll look at me
Speaker 5: and goes like, dude, I know you're not dumb, but
Speaker 5: flatter the Earth is a flat man, and it's like, right,
Speaker 5: we're good. Well, the friendship means more than to me than.
Speaker 6: That, absolutely, and but at the same time, it really
Speaker 6: speaks volumes of the efforts that they put into the
Speaker 6: system they've created.
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's insane. We'll go back to my daughter
Speaker 5: real quick. She believes that the Earth is round, and
Speaker 5: I tell her all the time, I said, this is
Speaker 5: what daddy believes. And I'll show her. I will show
Speaker 5: I got the flat Earth map. There's another one that
Speaker 5: shows like the sun and the moon in a different way,
Speaker 5: and it shows the phases of the moon. I have
Speaker 5: the David Dave Wise app. But she believes that the
Speaker 5: Earth is round because a TV told her, like those
Speaker 5: words came out of her mouth.
Speaker 4: That's right. I did a I'm sorry, Oh go ahead.
Speaker 6: I did a podcast like six weeks ago on children's
Speaker 6: programming and the keyword there once again programming.
Speaker 4: And a lot of.
Speaker 6: That comes as a commercial that I found. I think
Speaker 6: a listener probably sentent it to me and I played
Speaker 6: it on my radio. But what was Elmo, you know,
Speaker 6: just talking about the jab and how happy he was?
Speaker 6: You know, the brainwashing, the subtle brainwashing even from Sesame
Speaker 6: Street and the Muppets or whatever, you know, insert children's
Speaker 6: popular television show here. It's you know, thirty percent meant
Speaker 6: to entertain, but seventy percent is to control and keep
Speaker 6: people from asking questions. That is the biggest goal, and
Speaker 6: that's why our education system is considered you know one
Speaker 6: it used to be at one time, probably in the
Speaker 6: late eighteen hundreds into the nineteen hundreds, you know, the
Speaker 6: cream of the crop as far as the world goes
Speaker 6: in education. Now it's we rank continuously like thirty forty
Speaker 6: fiftieth because we don't teach critical thinking.
Speaker 5: Right as soon as Rockefeller got ahold of it, Rockefeller
Speaker 5: is yeah, Rockefeller got ahold of it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: At the same time you've got workers medicine.
Speaker 5: It goes back to control, yep. And that's everything that
Speaker 5: when you try to like knock it down into the
Speaker 5: lowest domination, control is where I come up with. Everything
Speaker 5: is about that.
Speaker 6: It is indeed, so indeed, this has been just an
Speaker 6: amazing conversation. You know, when you've done your trucking days
Speaker 6: or whatever, you need to have your own podcast or
Speaker 6: YouTube cho Well, you can't have this conversation on YouTube.
Speaker 4: You have to go and rumble or something. But hats
Speaker 4: off to you.
Speaker 6: And it's awesome when you you know, when you get
Speaker 6: into the truth community, it becomes not quite twenty four
Speaker 6: to seven, but yeah, you become eager to learn more
Speaker 6: and it's a never ending you are always searching for
Speaker 6: more truth, for more true history to to you know,
Speaker 6: unfurl the lives that we've been told, and I can
Speaker 6: tell you still have that hunger.
Speaker 4: And it's been a real pleasure to have this conversation
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 5: Oh totally likewise, I'm glad, I'm glad it happened on
Speaker 5: the second time instead of the first, because I got
Speaker 5: way more experiences to talk about the trucking stuff, you know,
Speaker 5: like I'm gone fourteen to sixteen hours a day, and
Speaker 5: I don't even listen to music anymore. I listened to
Speaker 5: like grow podcasts or like about two hours apiece your
Speaker 5: pod costs come out. I listen to those, you know,
Speaker 5: and that's when I want to, like I said, you
Speaker 5: have to come out of the rabbit hole. You just
Speaker 5: have to do it. You've got to put it down, yep,
Speaker 5: because it like you can get overwhelmed. For me, I
Speaker 5: don't necessarily get burnt out, but I can get like
Speaker 5: like like.
Speaker 4: Information overload, and it can make you depressed. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: really can't.
Speaker 6: Well, like I said, go you know, April nineteenth of
Speaker 6: this year, saying, oh my gosh, this is more than
Speaker 6: just you know, you know, talking about perpetrators and Timothy
Speaker 6: McVay and you know John Doe number two and all
Speaker 6: these other people. But when you find out about Terrence
Speaker 6: Yake and you see the family members who are still
Speaker 6: just devastated thirty years later, and you understand that these
Speaker 6: are more than just rabbit holes and trying to connect dots.
Speaker 6: This is literally a spiritual war.
Speaker 4: We're in the middle of it. It's quite sobering, very much.
Speaker 5: I do believe that there's going to be like more
Speaker 5: of that stuff to come. I do believe we kind
Speaker 5: of are like coming close to the end with that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. Yeah, but it's it's it's what hurts
Speaker 5: is watching people's suffered for no reason. I agree, you
Speaker 5: know you're watching. You're watching, like like fellow American stuffer
Speaker 5: for somebody to get better financially or a movement of
Speaker 5: some sort. Yep, you know again control, It's just it
Speaker 5: sucks one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: Well, as we come to a close, Robert, I want
Speaker 6: to give you the platform for the last word before
Speaker 6: we part ways.
Speaker 5: Well, I just you know, keep up what you're doing.
Speaker 5: This is this is awesome. I love the podcast. I
Speaker 5: binge it. Uh. There's so many like spin offs of
Speaker 5: the from guests that have been on here that every
Speaker 5: now and again I hit up this is Uh. It's
Speaker 5: an awesome space to be into. It's very educational. It's
Speaker 5: just uh ah, you know, don't don't dive in head first.
Speaker 5: And I mean, I guess you have to dive in
Speaker 5: head first, but like just come up for air. Let's
Speaker 5: come up for air with all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: But now I'm.
Speaker 6: Good, awesome, well, and again, thank you so much for
Speaker 6: your time and safe travels. I've always said the admiration
Speaker 6: I have for truck drivers. You are indeed the backbone
Speaker 6: of this country. You know, we can't thank you enough
Speaker 6: for everything that you do. So be safe on the road.
Speaker 6: God bless you and your family, and to all the listeners,
Speaker 6: thank you for your continued support. We'll have another episode
Speaker 6: for you next Sunday night at eight pm Eastern. Make
Speaker 6: sure you stop by the website, the Flat Earthfiles dot com.
Speaker 6: And again, if you'd like to join the podcast like
Speaker 6: Robert is, it is f E Files guest at gmail
Speaker 6: dot com and all the links and email addresses are
Speaker 6: in the show notes. For Robert, I'm George. God bless
Speaker 6: you all. Keep your head on a swivel, and until
Speaker 6: we meet again, my friends, we will see you.
Speaker 9: I knowing it's been struggle, that's pain.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna feel tired. Hell, don't by all the way, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't. You feeling.
Speaker 9: You smile ain't the same, that's saw way go from.
Speaker 5: You feel like.
Speaker 1: You've lost your way don't give it, No, don't give it.
Speaker 5: But never is home.
Speaker 4: Don't let call the primise. It ain't done yet.
Speaker 5: He's got up.
Speaker 4: Glad, Why it's away time?
Speaker 5: Got up, mamby, Come.
Speaker 10: Why away? God?
Speaker 5: M called?
Speaker 11: I can see this street beside you. Child's are putting
Speaker 11: up the five.
Speaker 5: Oh you're stronger than a thing. You are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're accepting a dead
Speaker 4: found beautiful. You're shot in ride.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're living, breathing, move, you can hold your head
Speaker 1: a pie.
Speaker 3: Don't give up, No, don't give in. You never lose home.
Speaker 3: Don't let gone on the primies. It ain't done Yet's God,
Speaker 3: I'm letting WANs.
Speaker 10: Away down the God of me because.
Speaker 5: Don't give up.
Speaker 4: No, don't give in.
Speaker 5: You never lose home.
Speaker 3: Don't let go on the primis.
Speaker 5: It ain't n likeness worth lit man.
Speaker 10: What's a way down the God?
Speaker 3: May call?
Speaker 10: Why's a way down the God? Oh yeah, what's a
Speaker 10: play down the God?
Speaker 5: Baby call?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, got TV call.
Speaker 9: Don't give up, No, don't give in. Never so do
Speaker 9: they go of the Primis? I mean and don yas
Speaker 9: got a play?
Speaker 1: Wat's a kind of ey cot don't give no dog giving,
Speaker 1: never the sol don't they go the crime?
Speaker 11: It ain't done, Lovers for living? What's done? God of Erics? Oh,
Speaker 11: the God of needles? Why's he done?
Speaker 5: The God of a.
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