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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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May twenty eighth. Go ahead and check that out. But now,

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from July twelfth, nineteen fifty here is shotgun and fatal Accident.

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Speaker 2: The Big Story.

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Speaker 3: Amy, What have I done? I heard a shot, Sir, What.

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Speaker 4: Have I done?

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Speaker 5: What's the matter, sir? My wife?

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Speaker 4: Look?

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Speaker 3: Shall I call a police, mister Hodge?

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Speaker 5: Yes? Is she dead? She must have died instantly.

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Speaker 6: The shot blew half her head off.

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Speaker 2: Youngstown, Ohio. From the pages of the Youngstown Vindicator. The

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story of a reporter who made a hunch pay off Youngstown, Ohio.

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The story hasn't actually happened, Bill Griffith's story as he

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lived it.

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Speaker 7: The first chill wind of autumn slaps you across the

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face Bell Grim, a reporter on the Youngstown Vindicator. As

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you leave your home that morning late in October, you

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hurry to your office, not because you're late, but because

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you know there's a hot story waiting made the daughter

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for you, the big jewelry store robbery downtown. But you

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never get to that job because there's something else that happens.

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It's so big that the boss himself is in your

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office waiting for you. Oh oh, h John, don't take

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your hat and go to Okay, Okay, I'll get right over.

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Speaker 6: They get much.

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Speaker 8: I'm not putting you on the jewelry job loss, and

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you're going to cover it. Why, Lawson, you heard of

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private Hodge. Sure, sure, the big mining millionaire. What's the

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matter with him? I mean with him which his wife?

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You just fleor head off accidentally? Get down there, fast down,

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Try to hold the blue addition until I hear from you.

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Speaker 7: I'm on my way. When you get to the Hodge mansion, goold.

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The secretary, suave and courteous shows you into the huge library.

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Speaker 3: There you see.

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Speaker 7: Detective Bromley and a couple of his men sitting around

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and listening to mister Hodge. You've seen mister Hodge many times,

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but never like this. He's slumped in his chair, tortured

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and dazed. He keeps shaking his head in horror, as

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if trying to shake the remembrance away.

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Speaker 9: It was after dinner detected Bromley. Amy was resting on

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the left seat. She hadn't been feeling well. Hotly ate

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her dinner.

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Speaker 5: How did you happen to have a shotgun in the library,

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miss Dodge?

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Speaker 9: But we were nearly robbed the night before. I had

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an old shotgun in the storehouse I carried for protection.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why I did that.

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Speaker 9: I never shot this gun or any gun for that

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Go on, Well, she fell asleep on the chair she

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looks so uncomfortable. I decided to wake her up. You

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get her to go to a room. I prodded it

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with a gun. It went off. I never even dreamed

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it floaded.

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Speaker 5: How far was the gun from her.

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Speaker 9: Head about ten inches of most.

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Speaker 5: It was the most awful thing.

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Speaker 7: You look around the room, Bill Griffith, beautifully furnished, clean.

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You look at the love seat, A large stain on

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the side of it, and on the rug. Someone had

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already tried to clean it since the accident. Someone had

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been in this room cleaning it up, even the ash trays.

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Speaker 6: You wonder what was the hurry.

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Speaker 7: You get up and think, maybe you can look around

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the mansion, maybe talk to a couple of the servant.

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Speaker 5: Where are you going, sir?

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Speaker 6: Or just looking around the school? Oh? Any objection? Oh no, sir,

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go ahead and look all you like, No.

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Speaker 10: Sir, they got along fine. It was always darling and

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deary and honey. They've been on a perpetual honeymoon for

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ten years. Mister, you're looking for something that isn't there.

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Speaker 11: Well, to tell you the truth, I won't lie to you.

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Speaker 12: They did have once that that was two years ago,

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less than three weeks about two months after I came here.

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Speaker 11: Mister Hodge was real considerate of her, not like some

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of the men that walk around these days. He made

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up to her when they were alone in their room.

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He gave her a pearl necklace and kiss it behind here.

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I couldn't always hear what they said, but well, they

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always got along swell.

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Speaker 4: I never saw them quarrel, But then I'm just the gardener.

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I never didn't see them much at all. Lucy could

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tell you more. She was poor Missus Hodge's maid.

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Speaker 6: And I find her. She went back home. She was

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fired this morning.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, miss Lucy, I'm Bill Griffith from the Youngstown Vindicator. Mackleman, Oh, sure,

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I want to talk to about missus Hodge. It was

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a terrible accident, wasn't It was horrible? Why were you

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discharged so soon?

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Speaker 10: I don't. Mister Goole gave me two weeks salary and

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told me there was no need for my services.

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Speaker 6: How did mister Hodge and his wife get along?

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Speaker 10: Not too good?

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Speaker 6: Quarrel?

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Speaker 10: No, but he.

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Speaker 6: Didn't like her, He didn't. How do you know?

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Speaker 10: Well, hey, I don't want to get mixed up in

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is I I got nothing more to do. With mister Hodge,

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and I'd rather forget the whole terrible business.

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Speaker 6: Did you like missus Hodge?

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Speaker 10: She was real nice and sweet to me. Always give

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me a few extra dollars over my salary. He's an

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old skin flant, he is.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't you want a help in case it wasn't an accident?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm trying to find out. Why didn't

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he like his wife?

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Speaker 10: Well, he had a friend girlfriend.

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Speaker 6: Yes, what's her name?

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Speaker 10: It's Mad's Cherrie. She lives over in Bellrows.

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Speaker 6: Did missus Hodge know about her?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but she never let on. Missus Hodge was a

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very unhappy woman.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 10: She once told me that if anything ever happened to her,

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for me to look behind the ruled. I never knew

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what she meant by that.

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Speaker 6: Ruled is a painter.

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Speaker 7: She probably has one of his pictures hanging in a room.

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It'd be very interesting to know what's behind that picture.

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Now you have a fist full of leads, Bill Griffith,

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but you're not ready to go back to the office,

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not yet.

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Speaker 6: You want to have a look at the body.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Bill, but I got instructions not to let

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anyone look at the body. Mister Hodges orders why he

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doesn't want anyone to see her the way she is.

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I can't blame him.

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Speaker 7: A shotgun makes okay, okay, just tell me where the

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powder marks are?

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Speaker 6: Powder mars, well.

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Speaker 3: There must be.

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Speaker 6: The gun went off ten inches from her head.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you there are no powder marks.

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Speaker 6: Are you sure?

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Speaker 4: Ok here Bell, I've been a corner and a mortician

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for a long time. I worked with the police. I

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know about these things. I'm telling you there aren't any

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powder burns. I'm telling you absolutely.

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Speaker 6: What the devil happened to your bill? Am I too

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late for the blue addition?

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Speaker 3: Bosson?

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Speaker 6: What the better? An hour ago? What did you get?

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Speaker 7: Boss's story was too good? The house is too clean,

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everything's too perfect for my taste. So I did a

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little snoopy and and now I'm a wiser man. I

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don't know all the answers. I certainly picked up a

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lot of questions that should be answered, like what There's

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only one thing fit to print right now, and that

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is why are there no powder burns on missus Hodge?

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Since the gun went off ten inches away? It's just

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not possible. Let's keep asking that question. And I have

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a hunch we'll come up with the answer. But even

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though the vindicator hammers away for days on the absence

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of powder marks, the police decide that it was accidental homicide.

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But you, Bill Griffith, aren't satisfied with this decision. You

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go ahead with your investigations and make some phone calls.

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You try to see Madge Carrey, Hodge's girlfriend, but he's

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away for the weekend. Try to get into the Hodge

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mansion to take a look at the rule of painting,

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but mister Gould won't let you get any further than

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the front door. You're getting nowhere fast until one of

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your phone calls pays off.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Cliff, Oh, hier, Cliff got anything for me, honey.

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Speaker 13: After check through our policies, I have Hodging short his

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wife from New York about a year ago.

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Speaker 6: For fifteen fifteen thousand.

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Speaker 13: That's not the half of it. You put in a

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claim for the dog two days after her death.

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Speaker 6: Oh, isn't that a loving don't.

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Speaker 1: Go away yet.

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Speaker 13: He even went to the trouble of claiming and collecting

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one hundred dollars bario fund because his wife was once

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a government nurse.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm beginning to have a feeling that

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mister Hodge didn't like his wife at all.

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Speaker 6: Yes, am I speaking to mister Griffith. Yes it was

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his I am.

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Speaker 10: Mister Gould, secretary to mister Hodge.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, Would you oblige me by coming down

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to see mister Hodge at your earliest convenience?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I can come down this afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. He'll be waiting for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, come in please, mister Griffith.

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Speaker 9: Mister Griffith, your paper has apparently been on a crusade

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against me. I suppose it makes a good copy for

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your readers.

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Speaker 7: We're merely asking that someone answered the question we're asking.

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Speaker 3: You mean about the lack of powder burn.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I wish I knew the answer.

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Speaker 6: There are a couple of other questions that have been

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bothering us.

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Speaker 3: I'd be very glad to answer any questions at all.

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Speaker 6: You're a close friend of Madge Carey, aren't you?

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Speaker 3: Who told you that?

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Speaker 6: What difference does it make?

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Speaker 3: I know her slightly?

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Speaker 7: That's all seems strange that you should buy a new

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automobile if you know a slightly.

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Speaker 3: That was just a business to you.

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Speaker 7: You also applied for collection on your wife's insurance two

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days after a fatal accident.

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Speaker 9: My business manager. He probably took care of that. I

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had no idea that he made applications so soon.

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Speaker 7: You also collected one hundred dollars burial fund three days

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after a death. It's hard for some of the people

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in my office to consider that an act of deep mourning.

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Speaker 9: Mister Griffith, I don't care what your paper thinks. If necessary,

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I'll put us up to these ugly stories. And I

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can do it too. You can go back to your

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editor and tell him that I'll break your paper if

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he doesn't leave me alone.

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Speaker 3: How you get out of here?

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Speaker 7: On your way out you pass Amy Hodge's room. The

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door is slightly a jar. The rule of the painting.

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You step carefully into the room, Bell Griffith. You close

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the door, You look on the walls. There it is

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the rule of painting. You have to stand on a

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chair to get at him.

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Speaker 5: You take the picture.

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Speaker 6: Off the hump and you look behind it. There's a

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piece of paper stuck into the back of the frame.

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To take the paper.

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Speaker 5: What are you doing here?

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Speaker 7: Well, I was just admiring your pictures, mister. You were swooping,

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didn't I tell you to get out while I was

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on my way out, when when I saw this picture before.

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Speaker 9: I throw you out, hand me that paper. That paper,

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mister Griffith, I found it.

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Speaker 7: By accident behind the painting. It reads, I'm afraid of

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my husband. It's a woman's handwriting.

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Speaker 3: You're not leaving here.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to call the police and have you arrested

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for breaking into my wife's room.

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Speaker 7: You're very confident, mister Hodge, but don't depend on that

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good conduct driven the police gave you. I might take

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it away. I know you're a powerful man around these parts,

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but so is the Vindicator. It usually lives up to

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its name, avenge and justice. If you're guilty, believe me,

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we'll find you out a This is Sy Harris returning

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to your narrator and the big story of Bill Griffith

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as he lived it and wrote it. You, Phil Griffith,

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reporter for the Youngstown Vindicator, are now standing in the

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bedroom of the late Amy Hodge. Her husband has just

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called the police and what you think is a bold bluff.

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When they arrived, Hodge tells them the entire truth, how

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he invited you, how you violated his hospitality, and then

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he gives them the note you found behind the painting.

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He's so straightforward about it that you begin to have

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doubts about your convictions.

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Speaker 5: The police let.

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Speaker 7: You go, but they don't like your meddling, and they

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tell you so in no uncertain terms. And now you

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have one lead left, Madge Kerry, mister Hodge's girlfriend, William Griffith.

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Speaker 11: What do you want?

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Speaker 6: I'd like to speak to you, miss Carey. What about

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I'm a reporter?

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Speaker 11: Well, what do you want to see me about mister Hodge?

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Speaker 6: You know him very well, don't you?

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Speaker 11: What business is that of yours?

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Speaker 6: Miss carry I can print what I think, or I

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can print what you tell me. I think you'd be

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better off if you answered a few questions.

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Speaker 11: What are you dragging me into this for?

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Speaker 6: You're a good friend of mister Hodge, aren't you?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Very good? Eh?

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Speaker 11: Yes, very good.

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Speaker 6: You love each other, don't you?

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Speaker 11: Of course not. He's a married man.

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Speaker 6: Why did he buy you that car?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 11: Because he likes me. We're good friends. Can't you understand that?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 6: I can't.

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Speaker 7: I can't understand a young, pretty woman like yourself being

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such a close friend of a man in his fifties?

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Speaker 11: Are you making insinuation?

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Speaker 6: You were seen kissing.

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Speaker 11: That's a lie.

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Speaker 6: I can prove it well.

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Speaker 12: I might have kissed him once, and in friendship, nothing else,

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just friendship. Now please get your foot out of the door.

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I have nothing else to say to you.

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Speaker 7: You didn't get very far with her, Bill Griffith, and

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now you have nothing else left to go on. You

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come back to your office planning to give this case up.

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But there's someone waiting for you. Hi, Bill, remember me?

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Speaker 3: Why Ed Visy?

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Speaker 6: What brings you here? I haven't seen you in months?

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Speaker 8: Well, naturally as a ballistics expert, I've been reading your

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articles in the Hodge case.

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Speaker 6: I think you're quite right about it.

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Speaker 8: There should have been powder burns in the body. Yes,

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I know, but it hasn't got me anywhere. Look, I've

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just talked to coroner. He swears that there were no

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powder burns. But I'm quite willing to testify that the

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shot could not have been made at ten inches without

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leaving burns. You are ried, I am, Dad, that's terrific.

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I also took the trouble to go over the coroner's report.

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The great area of the wound couldn't possibly have been

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made by a shot fired at ten or fifteen inches away.

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Speaker 6: It had to be a lot farther than that.

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Speaker 7: And if you can prove that, I think we can

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get the new prosecutor to reopen the case.

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Speaker 8: If you'll all come down to the Culver Valley Hunting Club,

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I can demonstrate it to everyone's satisfaction.

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Speaker 14: Look, Bill, I've only been prosecutor for a short time.

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The case is officially closed. The verdict is accidental homicide.

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Speaker 6: Why should we reopen it now?

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Speaker 7: I've got a lot of reasons why this case should

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be reopened. One of them is this sworn statement by

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mister v Z.

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Speaker 6: A ballistics expert.

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Speaker 3: Here. Take a look at this.

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Speaker 14: All right, we'll suppose it wasn't fired at ten inches.

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Speaker 5: What difference does a few more inches either way make?

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Speaker 7: The difference was more than a few inches. This means

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that mister Hodges was lying. It means that he wasn't

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prodding his wife with a gun to awaken her. It

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means that he was far enough away to take aim

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and murder it.

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Speaker 5: You say that mister VZ can prove it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's willing to conduct a series of tests down

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at the Cover Valley Hunting Club.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm willing to be shown.

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Speaker 7: There's one more thing, like what I'd like you to

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ask mister Hodge to come down.

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Speaker 5: He'll never do it.

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Speaker 7: From what I know about him, I have a hunch

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he will. Two days later, everyone involved in this case

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assembles at the Culver Valley Hunting Club in the target room,

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and as you had expected, Bill Griffith, mister Hodge, and

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his secretary, mister Gould are present. Mister Hodge seems calm,

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even nods pleasantly to you when you happen to catch

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each other's eye. The atmosphere is more like a college

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lecture hall than a hearing in which a man's life

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hangs in the balance.

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Speaker 14: I want to thank you, mister Hodge for being so cooperative.

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Speaker 9: Well, mister proscutor, I am as anxious as I hope

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all of you are to get this tragedy cleared up

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once and for all.

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Speaker 14: Yes, let's proceed and get this finished as fast as

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we can. Go ahead, mister veezy.

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Speaker 8: Gentlemen, I have here the same shotgun which caused the

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fatal accident.

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Speaker 5: To missus Hodge.

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Speaker 9: Is that the gun, mister Hodge, I suppose, so, I'm

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not very familiar with guns, I guess it is it's.

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Speaker 8: Loaded, mister Hodge said. He gently prodded his wife with

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the gun went off. That's, mister Hodge, Yes it is.

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So I'm going to take the same gun and pound

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it on the floor, and now I'm going to hammer

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it and knock it's facing me. You notice goes off

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the shevel hit me? Did you see the shotgun didn't

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go off? I wasn't being grammatic by pointing it me.

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I did this only to prove that this gun can't

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possibly go off unless you press the trigger and press

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it hard.

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Speaker 9: You might do that once too often, sir. You can

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hammer it on the floor a thousand times and it

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won't go off the thousand and first time it might fire.

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Speaker 7: Mister Vesy, do you consider it impossible for the gun

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to go off without pulling the trigger?

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Speaker 8: Nothing is impossible, mister Griffith, But it's so unlikely that

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I was quite willing, as you saw, to point the

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gun at myself while pounding and hammering it.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any other tests vis well, mister prosecutor.

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I have brought here a slaughtered pig.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to fire the shotgun at it from a

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ten inch distance.

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Speaker 3: A few people moved inside surely, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, thank you.

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Speaker 8: Notice that the hole in the body of this pig

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is no bigger than the size of the shell a

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half inch diameter.

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Speaker 6: Notice the powder marks around the wound.

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Speaker 8: Notice the wattings around the shell have followed the shot

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into the wound.

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Speaker 6: Is the corner here?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Was there any wadding of the.

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Speaker 8: Shell in the wound that killed missus Hodge?

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Speaker 5: No, that wasn't. Do you want to say anything, mister Hodge?

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, yes, indeed it's to a prosecutor.

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Speaker 9: I would merely like to say that I had no

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idea there was going to be an accident, and I

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didn't measure the distance the gun was from her head.

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Speaker 3: It might have been more or less.

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Speaker 9: I was so dazed by what happened that my sense

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of distance might easily have been distorted.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's very true, but I haven't finished this experiment.

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Please let me go on.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead.

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Speaker 8: The shell of a shotgun is different from a rifle bullet.

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A bullet makes the same hole no matter what the distance,

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But a shell hole is larger the farther the weapon

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is from the target.

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Speaker 3: The shot spreads.

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Speaker 8: Now, I'll fire the shotgun at a distance of three

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feet from target. The wound is now much bigger, as

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you can see, a little bigger than the silver dollar.

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And I would like to ask coroner a question. Yes,

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the wound that killed missus Hodge was bigger than the

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silver dollar.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't it? Yeah, much bigger, if I'm nothing mistaken.

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Speaker 7: According to your report, the wound was about three by

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two inches, or roughly about the size of a closed fist.

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Speaker 4: That's about the size, mister GrITT.

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Speaker 6: All right, I'll fire the shot.

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Speaker 3: Guy. I don't know what you expect to prove by it.

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Speaker 8: If you'll allow me to finish, I'll point out to

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all of you the significant this experiment seems most unfair

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to me, very prejudicial against allow me to finish.

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Speaker 14: Why do you think it's prejudicial, mister Hodge, A mister prosecutor.

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Speaker 3: He's firing into a dead body.

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Speaker 9: There's a great difference between the resistance of a dead

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body and a live one, though the size of the

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wound would therefore be very different.

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Speaker 8: Well, there is a difference, but so small as not

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to be measurable for all intents and purposes. The shell

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makes the same size holds the naked eye in a

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live or dead body.

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Speaker 3: I refuse to accept this.

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Speaker 8: We can carry on the same experiment with a live

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animal if necessary, but I deplore the unnecessary use of

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slaughter to prove I object to these experiments as easy.

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Speaker 14: You may continue with this experiment, Thank you, mister prosecutor.

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Speaker 8: I will now fire the shotgun from a distance of

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eight feet. Notice the wound about the size of my

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closed bit, about the same size the wound that killed

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missus hass.

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Speaker 3: This is a ridiculous experiments.

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Speaker 8: Harder can easily verify that this was the size of

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the fatal wound.

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Speaker 3: I objected this whole proceed quiet, please.

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Speaker 5: Arner.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that was about the size.

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Speaker 8: The shot was fired at Missus Hodge from a distance

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of eight feet, which meant that he took deliberate aim.

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There can be no other possible explanation. Would you like

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to comment on this, mister Hall.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing is a lie rip off.

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Speaker 9: Your newspapers are just trying to make a lurid story

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out of this tragic accident.

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Speaker 5: You have anything else to say, mister Hodge.

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Speaker 3: My innocent. I love my wife. We never quarrel. I

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wouldn't kill her, I wouldn't harm a her of her head.

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I loved mister Hodge.

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Speaker 7: We know about Madge Carey, what we know about the

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note which I found behind the rules.

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Speaker 3: So that doesn't prove anything. My wife was eccentric.

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Speaker 7: You ensured your wife a year ago for fifteen thousand

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dollars and put in a claim for the money two

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days after a death.

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Speaker 3: I told you, my business manager.

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Speaker 6: You even collected one.

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Speaker 7: Hundred dollar burial fund on your wife three days after

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a death.

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Speaker 3: I don't see what all this has to do with

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the situation.

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Speaker 7: I think the combination of all these things adds up

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to a motive, and certainly this demonstration has proved.

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Speaker 3: I tell you I didn't kill I'm sorry, miss.

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Speaker 14: The state now considers you under suspicion of the murder

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of your wife, Amy Hodge.

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Speaker 5: You are now under arrest.

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Speaker 2: Now we read you that telegram from Bill Griffith of

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the Youngstown Vindicator.

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Speaker 7: Suspect in tonight's big story was brought to trial. His

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suavity and polish and his condemeanor did not fool the jury.

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He was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life

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imprisonment in the Ohio Penitentiary.

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Speaker 15: And so ends another big story. In order to protect

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the names of people actually involved, into Night's authentic Big Story.

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The names of all characters and the dramatization were changed.

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With the exception of the newspaper reporter, The Big Story

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has been a presentation of the United States Armed Forces

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Radio Service, the Voice of Information and Education.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, let me go ahead and go through

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the cast. Information. The star was Bill Quinn. Also in

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the cast Amzi Strickland, Anita Anton, Paul McGrath, Roger to Covin,

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Lyle Sudro, Mason Adams, and Bob Dryden. Now, in terms

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of the inspiration of the particular episode, the Story Behind

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the Big Story notes that the original story has been

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identified summary to be available soon, so not available at

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the moment, and so it's kind of hard to know

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how it compares to real life, because you know, as

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we've experienced with a Big Story, you don't even know

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what era a story is properly set in. But I

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think in terms of being a mystery, was a good,

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solid episode with some solid forensic facts, it was kind

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of plain in that way. I do again wonder about

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the era, whether given the area, the police might not

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have been as up to speed as they might have

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been closer to nineteen fifty, but any rate, it is

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time to think. Our Patreon supporter of the day Q

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to Rosa, Patreon supporter since January of twenty twenty, currently

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much for your support, Rosa, and that will do it

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for today. If you're enjoyed the podcast, please follow us

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be back next Tuesday with another episode of The Big Story.

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But join us back here tomorrow for Broadways My beat

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where they just.

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Speaker 5: Told me, I don't put it? What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Him?

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Speaker 6: Pop?

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Speaker 3: I just told them what happened.

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Speaker 2: I told them.

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Speaker 3: We came back to you up here.

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Speaker 13: You went outside, mister Caulker.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, whatever you say.

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Speaker 1: Just take it easy, Chilie boy, sit.

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Speaker 6: Down, mister Baker.

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Speaker 5: Your wife is dead. We'll see.

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Speaker 6: I want you to try to tell me just what

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happened to me.

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Speaker 16: The office. Putty it.

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Speaker 5: I went there.

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Speaker 16: I was having a fun. Yes, I was having a

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wonderful time. Look, it was the end of the day,

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and at first I wanted to go home with it.

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They wouldn't let me do said, look at all this,

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three booths lap it up and forget it.

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Speaker 6: And does go on.

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Speaker 16: But I tried to call those seal three or four times,

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I don't know how many times to till I was

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having a good time not to wait up for me.

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But line was always busy.

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Speaker 7: What else do you remember?

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Speaker 16: Bob said, come on, let's go home. So when we

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got there, the last thing I remember, let's see laying

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there saying to myself, just like this, I am drunk.

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You think you see all sorts of things when you're drunk,

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and this is one of them. That's not a little seal.

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I'm not even a home. No, I wake up.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime,

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do send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives

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Son and all