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<v Speaker 1>All right, massive game.

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<v Speaker 2>As we've been talking about, We've had this date on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday circled on our calendar for a number of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Both teams have stayed clean. Two undefeated teams in the

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<v Speaker 2>top fourteen. It's Utah at Okay State. Our next guest

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<v Speaker 2>will be there on the ground and he's one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it's been too long.

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<v Speaker 2>From ESPN Radio, the Great Ian Fitzsimmons on a Wednesday, Ian,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Wednesday, Man, how are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Spence? Good to talk to you again, man, How you

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<v Speaker 3>been passed?

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<v Speaker 1>How you been been good? Can't complain? Can't complain?

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<v Speaker 3>Love?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, love this time of year, and so far

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<v Speaker 2>both these two teams have stayed clean. Before we get

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<v Speaker 2>to the actual game, I wonder from your advantage point,

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<v Speaker 2>what you make of the start of the season, just

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<v Speaker 2>from a macro standpoint of the Utes. Now we'll learn

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<v Speaker 2>more about them, but they have stayed clean despite some injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>including an injury to cam So at three and oh

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<v Speaker 2>what do you make of these Utah Utes? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, to be able to come away with wins,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, down and Baylor after camp gets hurt hitting

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<v Speaker 3>at Gator Ree bottle, which luckily it wasn't worse. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just a slight laceration to his hand if

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<v Speaker 3>he did lose. Karini Reid, who I love that dude. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>He's a sideline to sideline backer and one of your leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's stung. But walking you know, Johnny Hill down

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<v Speaker 3>from linebacker, you know who's been there waiting to get

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, you know, for the former safety. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was a brilliant move by Kyle Whittingham and

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<v Speaker 3>morgan'sclly because he's an athletic guy and you can't coach

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<v Speaker 3>speed and man, when you come into the big twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to be able to carry it tight enough

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<v Speaker 3>to seem you know, bigger slot receivers at times. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, walking him down from safety to linebacker, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought was a brilliant move. I know they're really high

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<v Speaker 3>on him, but bottom line is, it's a different team

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<v Speaker 3>when cam Rise is a quarterback. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>breaking news here along the Washash front. I mean all

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<v Speaker 3>of college football knows that. I mean, when I talked

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<v Speaker 3>to Kyle Whittingham yesterday, I flat out asked him, if

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<v Speaker 3>you forget a dollar, if you had a quarter for

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<v Speaker 3>every time you've been asked about Cam Rise in the

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<v Speaker 3>last year and a half. You're already in a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>darn good tax bracket. Where would you be even after that.

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<v Speaker 3>We just gave you a quarter every time you were asked.

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of laughed about it. But you know, all

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<v Speaker 3>of college football knows what that guy means this football team.

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<v Speaker 3>And we all know also, I don't care if it's

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<v Speaker 3>big boy high school football, college football, or the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't got a quarterback, you ain't got a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a dude who led you taught a back

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<v Speaker 3>to backpack twelve titles. I'm a huge cam Rising fan,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I think he's gonna be if he wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so cerebral. One thing Wit mentioned yesterday he sees

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<v Speaker 3>the game like a coach. He's almost watching the all

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two and if he wants to coach one day,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's gonna be an outstanding coach. He is

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<v Speaker 3>a leader of leaders, so and you're gonna need it, man, Couspence.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've ever been to Stillwater, but man,

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<v Speaker 3>when they start slapping those damn paddles against the side wall,

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<v Speaker 3>right here on the sideline. It is deafening, and I

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<v Speaker 3>do mean deafening. It is a rough place to go play.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got seven guys back on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 3>the ball that started all fourteen games last year on

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<v Speaker 3>a ten win team that played for a Big twelve title.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you've got the entire offensive lineback Alan Bowman.

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<v Speaker 3>Their quarterbacks is as old as cam Rising, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have the the you know, college football leading

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<v Speaker 3>ropshter from last year and Ali Gordon the second who

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<v Speaker 3>I know has been slowed down, but teams have been

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<v Speaker 3>walking a safety down the box on him, which is

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<v Speaker 3>free Bowman enough to be able to complete around sixty

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent of his passes. So you look at this matchup, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's twelve to fourteen. It's logo on logo. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be some passion behind these pads. I cannot wait to

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<v Speaker 3>call this thing on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were discussing this earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>I and I wonder what you make of what really

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<v Speaker 2>is at stake here because there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people talking about this game as the winner is in

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<v Speaker 2>the driver's seats to win the conference and go to

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<v Speaker 2>the conference championship game. I know, I'm just wondering how

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<v Speaker 2>you would articulate what you believe is at stake coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>But any of the conference game is big. You weighm

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<v Speaker 3>double you know. Nick Stateman told me that years ago

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, any conference game is is weighed twice

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<v Speaker 3>as much because there is there is it's there's twice

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<v Speaker 3>as much on the line. But man, like, we're a

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<v Speaker 3>week four, you know, so let's not say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one game is going to decide who's playing for a

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<v Speaker 3>Big twelve championship or not, you know, or who's playing

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<v Speaker 3>in the title gameing Kansas State BYU. Kansas State is

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<v Speaker 3>really good. I mean damn good. Avery Johnson ran Will

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<v Speaker 3>Howard out of town. And that's dude who won a

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<v Speaker 3>Big Twell title a couple of years ago. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he ran him to Ohio State. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Avery johnsons the heck of a quarterback. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys remember Maddy Wells, you know, former head coach at

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<v Speaker 3>Utah State. He's uc there now at Kansas State. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Kansas State is not a team to

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<v Speaker 3>be taken lightly by any stretch of the imagination. Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>is a pretty darn good football team. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>go on down the list, man, I mean so you

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<v Speaker 3>know you talk, but God picked Utah to win the

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<v Speaker 3>Big Twelve. At the start of the season, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas would be better than what we've seen so far.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved Chris Clembans, you know, culture, he's built there

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<v Speaker 3>in the Little Apple and Manhattan, Kansas State. And Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Gunn he's been around for twenty years. Look look at

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<v Speaker 3>this man. Twenty six days separate Mike Gundy and Kyle Whittingham,

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<v Speaker 3>but two's longest tenured head coaches in college football. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>let that sink in. And that's hard to do in

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<v Speaker 3>this day and age. That that you have to win consistently,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what they've done. So I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 3>that whoever wins Saturday is now in some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a driver's sea. There's too much ball enough to be played.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting Cam will be back under center. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as everything that we've been told, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>you're under the same impression. And Alan Bowman on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. These are two like six seven year quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>But Ali Gordon is the back that everybody talks about.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does seem like Okay State has more balance,

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<v Speaker 2>right ian than most people understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is not just a one dimensional offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, you know, Parnell is a speedy wide out.

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<v Speaker 3>He could have gone to the two in the draft

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<v Speaker 3>last year. He would have been a I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>man like around a sixth seventh round pick. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>around five eight, maybe a buck eighty. But he's a burner.

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<v Speaker 3>He rubbed runs a sub four four. That's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to have to contend with, you know. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Alan Bowman, think about this, Spence. The combined age of

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<v Speaker 3>these two quarterbacks in this game, for I kickoff and

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<v Speaker 3>camerasing Alan Bowman will be forty nine. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>the combined age of the two quarterbacks that started in

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<v Speaker 3>primetime on Thursday night and for the Chicago Bears and

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<v Speaker 3>the Houston Texans is what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Forty two, forty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty four, forty four. These two college quarterbacks are five

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<v Speaker 3>years older than the combined age of the two starting

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks the Texans and the Bears. Welcome to the FA

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<v Speaker 3>last COVID year of college football, right But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>blame any any of these guys for coming back Trey Rucker,

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<v Speaker 3>leading tackler for the Oklahoma State Pokes. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>know he's also a COVID guy. I mean, and keep

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<v Speaker 3>an eye on nine. Man, he'll hit you. He's another

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<v Speaker 3>guy that it would have been around a sixth seventh

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<v Speaker 3>round pick to you know, they may you make some

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<v Speaker 3>money in il comes back for one more year even

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<v Speaker 3>though you're waiting to start your in fel cycle as

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<v Speaker 3>far as your next contract, if you're lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 3>get one. But he came back to improve his draft stock,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's done that so far. So you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>are two older teams, two veteran teams. As I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma State's got seven guys that started every every single

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<v Speaker 3>game last year. On defense, the entire offensive line is back.

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<v Speaker 3>Bowman's back, Parnell's back, Ali Gordon's second is back who

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<v Speaker 3>led the NCAA and rushing last year live was seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yards and look, I know he's only averaging around

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<v Speaker 3>three and a half yards to carry this year. Go

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<v Speaker 3>watch what Arkansas did. They were not gonna let that

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<v Speaker 3>dude beat him. There was no way, I mean it

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<v Speaker 3>was you know what we're gonna stack you're gonna walk

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<v Speaker 3>the safety down, We're gonna stack the box. Bowman, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to beat this and he's been pretty good. It's

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<v Speaker 3>completing around sixty eight percent of his passes. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>this is gonna be strength on strength. We all know

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<v Speaker 3>that a Kyle Whittingham coach team is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>physical as hell. And that's why I think there'sn be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of passion behind the pass man because this

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<v Speaker 3>is a big game. Spence, I don't want to diminish

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<v Speaker 3>your question about Driver's seating a Big twelve. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>this is a massive game like Kansas State BYU is

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<v Speaker 3>a massive game for all four of these teams when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to Big twelve standing and just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's your first conference game. You want to start on

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<v Speaker 3>a good note. You don't want to have that taste

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<v Speaker 3>of a vinegar on your palate after, you know, after

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<v Speaker 3>the first game in conference play. But this went up

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<v Speaker 3>in Stillwater. I'm telling you, man, it's this is the

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<v Speaker 3>state of Oklahoma for that matter. The balls are coming

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<v Speaker 3>in to play, you know, the Sooners, you got a

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<v Speaker 3>youth coming in to play, the Popes, all four ranked.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it is going to be pandemonium cannibalistic in

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Oklahoma on Saturday, in a great game

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<v Speaker 3>of college football, well.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Ian. You know the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>When you do this job, you might want to rile

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<v Speaker 2>up your listenership a little bit. So, hey, you Utah

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<v Speaker 2>wins on Saturday. We're high speed out of the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve Championship. I'm hanging the banner in Salt Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. You know the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I love it. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if porta Call is still out there, right, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that place is still open, But go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and fly the flat. It's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a courthouse now. Ironically enough, portocoll is a courthouse now.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that that's fitting? It's extraordinarily fitting. Oh, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>go old school. We'll go up, we'll go over to

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<v Speaker 3>pass right, we'll go to No Name Saloon. Go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>and fly the flag right Sam, There it is there.

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<v Speaker 3>It is man, Big twelve champs. U taught they beat

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<v Speaker 3>the folks.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the sound bite from me and that we

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<v Speaker 2>were looking for. Hey, I want to move over here.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, don't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to pre play that for the next three weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>just so you know. But I actually wanted to follow

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<v Speaker 2>up on what you said about still Water because I

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<v Speaker 2>have never been there before at Boone Picking Stadium. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of youth fans that will be

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<v Speaker 2>making their first Big twelve road trip. It's our first

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<v Speaker 2>Big twelve game. It's our first big Big twelve road game.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about still Water, tell us about the stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the youth fans who are making the track

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<v Speaker 2>in for coming up on Saturday?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, when it gets a third down, those damn paddles

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<v Speaker 3>will be banging against the walls, you know, outside right

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<v Speaker 3>there by the student section. It is loud, it is medieval.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you are able to you won't be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get in at night. But if you can get

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<v Speaker 3>in and show up around three o'clock on Friday, Eskimo

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<v Speaker 3>Joe's Great Bar, live music. The Chili Cheese Dog will

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<v Speaker 3>make your left leg go numb. But it's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's bar food to the m degree. It's

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<v Speaker 3>bar food on steroids. It's actually really good bar food.

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<v Speaker 3>And the scene is magnificent. It is one of those

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<v Speaker 3>staples like the library at Old Mess in the Innis

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<v Speaker 3>Free Pub in Tuscaloosa, Archibal's Barbecue and Tuscaloosa you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean powerin'es and Baton Rouge. These are all staples,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And when it comes to still water in

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma State football, it doesn't get any better than Eskimo Joe's.

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<v Speaker 3>Put both hands in the dirt, get down like you're

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<v Speaker 3>running the you know, the toush push for the Philadelphia Eagles,

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<v Speaker 3>and fire off and attack some food, a cold beer

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<v Speaker 3>and enjoy some live music. It doesn't get any better.

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<v Speaker 1>God love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You reference k State rolling into town coming down to provo.

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<v Speaker 2>BYU stayed clean in the non con. It's Jay Hill's

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<v Speaker 2>second years, their decordinator, and their head coaches Kilane. So

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<v Speaker 2>now it looks like a team that is coached by

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<v Speaker 2>Kilane and has Jay Hill as their decordinator. At least

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<v Speaker 2>through three games against competition that's not overwhelming Ian They've

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<v Speaker 2>been really good on defense. But it gets real on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>What should BYU fans expect Saturday night when Case State

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<v Speaker 2>rolls into town.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make this short and sweet, man, because I

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<v Speaker 3>got under a zoom for our utuber for production meeting

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<v Speaker 3>for the Utah State to Oklahoma State game. I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>very very simple, Chris Cleman's squads will knock the snot

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<v Speaker 3>out of you. They are a lot like Kyle Whittingham's

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<v Speaker 3>boy so all like co Hawi Sataki was as a player.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they will not be ever loving snot out

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<v Speaker 3>of you. They are a very physical football team that's

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<v Speaker 3>faster than you think. I know, Desmond Parnell's numbers aren't

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<v Speaker 3>there right now, but he's kind of their heart and

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<v Speaker 3>soul on defense. Keep an eye on Parnell thirty two

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<v Speaker 3>and Avery Johnson again. He ran Will Howard out of town.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Howard was like a local legend. Avery Johnson is

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<v Speaker 3>so athletic, and with Matt Wells calling plays and dolling

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<v Speaker 3>it up, he's getting better and better every week. Be

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<v Speaker 3>very very careful here, because look, not a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people talking about BYU and undefeated BYU team that came

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<v Speaker 3>down to SMU as a double digit dog and got

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<v Speaker 3>a really strong win. Man, I'm telling you, you beat

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas State, you're backed on the national map, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't I don't even know if Colinie wants to be

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<v Speaker 3>on the national map. You know, he's one of those

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<v Speaker 3>guys kind of like me. You know, if I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>head coach, I don't want you talking about my squad.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me fly under the radar. Let me and you

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<v Speaker 3>look up late October and here I am at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>eight and one, nine and zero, and I'm shutting a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people up. You in this one though, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people will be talking about BYU football.

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<v Speaker 1>Ian, thank you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always a pleasure to have a great, safe trip

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<v Speaker 2>and have a great call.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay man, always enjoyed spance.

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<v Speaker 1>Be well, all right, Ian Fitzsimmons from ESPN Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>He will be on the call for the NASH Radio

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast coming up between Utah and Okay State. But don't

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<v Speaker 2>forget our radio call with pregame coverage with that guy

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<v Speaker 2>Porter Larson, will begin at ten am. HISS kickoff is

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<v Speaker 2>at two. We'll throw it over to Bill Scott and slide.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have you taken care of, so appreciate you in time.