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we have our final Travis and Taylor told you, I'm
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also we did this because Tarefield was not working for
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Cedric and the mass and the whole shebank. So it's
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also were asking I should have some guests on Trust
hold you in the town hall, so thought, okay, perfect,
we had him on here. He will be joined us
in a second. But yeah, we got lots of talk
about today. We got I gotta pull up all these trailers.
My goodness, it's been a busy couple of days here.
We got darrenel Born in season two. Thank you, Marvel,
thank you, thank you Kevin Fogg, you Meme for dropping
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Fallout review, we have a bunch of Patron exclusive stuff
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I mean trying to assentd Helm review, a bunch of
other stuff. Oh and there he is. You were in
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Speaker 2: No, I was not. I was not. I was tending
of the kid because I didn't see you, and I
was like, I got time.
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So but yeah, no, So that's why I'm very happy
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because we're recording lots of Patreon stuff this week. And
the rumor was that the Daredevil trailer was dropping Thursday,
but woke up this morning and there it is. But uh, Tayfield,
how's it going for you.
Speaker 2: It's going good. It's yeah, It's was today Tuesday, Tuesday morning.
Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, January seventh, twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty six, which on January seventh, seven.
Speaker 1: Twenty I said twenty seventh. Did you think You said absolutely,
And there's no way I said just seventh.
Speaker 2: I go back to the seventh though, I'll get all
this time off back over again. That was always seat
But uh, yeah, no, it's uh, it's pretty good for Tuesday.
The stuff that just kind of surfaced, uh in time
for this show, this coverage cast just kind of caught
me off guard, especially the Daredevil one that was not
really I wasn't expecting.
Speaker 1: Oh no, does that mean you've not watched said stuff?
Speaker 2: No, I watched it. I watched it first thing, because
when I shared in the discord, I was like, oh,
I'm gonna check this out just because because we did
the draft and I'm not gonna spoil one of my
draft picks. But uh, I felt good about watching the trailer,
just that re affirmation of certain things, two specific things
in that trailer.
Speaker 1: So well three well three didn't you see Rick Strangers
in there as well? No, okay you might, I miss
I missed that I missed that. Uh, but yeah, we're
gonna be talking about that. I will bring up this
one because usually it is an hour show, so we
only let the patrons go in the chat or if
you send a super check because we're on a tight schedule.
But I will answer hug Hunter here and we can
just kind of start that we're gonna get be all over,
which I was just gonna say, it's funny when you
show that Daredevil, because it seemed just the teaser or
the trail it says as a trailer. It's definitely a teaser.
It's like a minute eighteen but still it's a trailer
for sure. But like the thumbnails, I want to talk
about it. But like the thumb that was super weird.
Just him like like he's like smiling, Like I don't know,
like I don't know what the I don't know why
he's smiling. I'm not sure we've seen somebody. I just
feel like now it's not the time to smile. I
feel like things are going really bad for all the
heroes and everything. So I don't know why he's smiling.
But we'll get that later. But Hunter, he says, what
are your thoughts on people saying that James Gone ruined
Lobo and he looks terrible as Jason Momo as Lobo. Well,
here's the thing. I'll go first, and we can start
with the Superherol because that was just a teaser. That
was the big deal that they dropped that over the weekend.
I think they dropped the teaser for Supergirl and Odyssey
because they think they were playing them with the football
championship games, like it was the championship games where the
winners go to the Super Bowl. So I think it
was just like, hey, lots of beer are watching these games,
we'll have them on there, which I think, yeah, that's
smart marketing because I don't know if they'll be paying
for a Super Bowl spot for Supergirl. I doubt they
would do that for clay Face. I just I don't
think they're gonna be there. And those ones. I think
there's two things for this one. It's like, ouestly, you
don't know what Lobul looks like, but if you pull
up Lobo and then see what he looks like like,
I'll ask you after if you think it looks like
comic Gacrid or whatnot. But like for me, if you're
wanting to do it purely practical and live action. This
to me looks great. Obviously he doesn't have like the
eyes because he's just as the white eyes or the
red eyes. I am on the side again, I know
people me and Fambay Clay argued about this for years.
I'm on the side that for the most part, I
do not like the comic clear eye things. I think
a few times it works. I think the reason it
can work with Deadpool and a spider Man and even
cheat of it with Wolverine is you need the face
to emote, right. That's why anybody when they show those
fucking live action Batman photoshops wrought pass and the white
Eyes get it out here. I don't want that, like,
especially with that you saw in the Batman how much
Passing just did with his eyes and then imagine like, oh,
we're gonna take all that out. So to me, if
you like that, I get that. I'm even fine of
like if there's tributes to it or they wear it
for the action scenes like with Wolverine and Deadpool. Wolverine,
I'm fine if he has the dice size because like
if he's fighting people, right, because it's like, okay, cool,
he's just like he's not doing too much, but when
he's doing emotional scenes and saying good bye to Wade,
it's like I'd rather see Hugh his eyes here, so
to me, if it's all practical, he looks completely fine.
And I'm not expecting Jim Jason Momoa to get the
size of actual Lobo, Like he's not like, obviously, I
guess you can go cast like the actor who played
like the Mountain, right, But at the same time, it's
like I want a good actor and Taylor you will
maybe see one day when we get to animate stuff.
But like character wise, like this is like a perfect
character for Momoa, Like he's very much like badass but
like it has a charm to him, but kind of
a anti heroo. He calls himself the main man, like egotistical,
like what Momo has been doing recently, that's him. And
then that's where I get into it and says, James
gotten ruined Lobo. He's in this teaser for ten seconds,
we've seen nothing like I don't know what people. I
don't know who you follow or hunter, if you follows people,
let's say they ruined Lobo or this, and that the
look I guess if you have a prominent fine, but
then it says that stop following those people. Those people
aren't gonna get you anywhere, because like it's ten seconds.
You can't base any anything on this. If we see
the movie and we go, oh man, they really missed
the mark on the Lobo, then sure, But based on
this teaser, what does he do? He drives over the
motorcycle with ah and that's it, like, and he looks
like Lobe to me. So honestly, this trailer or teaser
wasn't much. Was just a really show off. Okay, yeah, Mamoa,
we didn't show the first look, but yeah, what are
your thoughts on that? To you like his look and
just anything about the character.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about the character. I really really
don't so, but I mean, looking at the comparison, here
is how he looks. I mean he looks he looks
like that. I mean, yeah, I see what you're saying
with the eyes. The big thing for me is just
with the way Mamoa looks so in this, in this costume,
he just reminds me of Wolverine's brother, reminds me of
saber Tooth wearing clown makeup. A little bit.
Speaker 1: Oh he has that aesthetic and it says it says
he looks like cheap causeplay, but it's like, I just
feel like you mcfans happy for the most Like I
have seen that out there, and don't get me wrong,
I think I've probably seen some costumes in the past
where it looks a little cosplay, but to me, like I,
I didn't get that vibe. So obviously don't know the character,
but basically look too Do you think it like looks
apapo or do you think there's a reason why people
should be mad.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really see why people should be
necessarily too mad, because at the end of the day,
it fits with it fits with the aesthetic the teams
guns kind of got going on in this universe, right, Yeah,
it's definitely not that it's not it's not bad. I
wouldn't say it's like cheap cosplay. I feel like there's cosplay,
but then cheap cosplay are very two different terms. I
feel like maybe it could be on like the cosplay
tier ish, but I wouldn't go as far as cheap cosplay.
Cheap cosplay that's something else.
Speaker 1: And like good cosplay is just like, oh, they've won
for one hit what was in the combooks for the
anime and the video games, right, So it's like, I
feel like it's just like an easy dig to throw
at things. But no, I thought it was fine. Like
I said, I think this teacher was just to announce it.
I am curious when you walked out that trailer because
he is like a cigar chopper. I am curious if
he's gonna be smoking in this movie because I don't
know if you remember this, but when you smoke in
a movie, that boosts you to your rateed R because
it's like promoting like unhealthy stuff. So I wonder if
he's gonna be doing that. I don't think so, but yeah,
this looked fun enough. Like I'm I am excited for
Supergirl because Milli Alcock. I think Momola is great. I've
not read the book yet. We're gonna do that for
combic versions, as we announced earl this year, we will
read a Supergirl one more that's based on So I'm
still excited for this. So, Terry, what's your temperature check
right now for Supergirl? Because you didn't love that first teaser?
Is this most stuff moving the needle for you? At
all you still kind of where you were a couple.
Speaker 2: Then the needle is not moved. I'm not feeling it early.
I mean I thought the teaser is entertaining, He's coming
out of his his trailer, getting all exciting stuff, and
then it branches into he's like you excited. I mean,
the last thing I saw him in was Minecraft, So
I'm not feeling the excitement quite as much. But yeah, yeah,
I mean we'll we'll see. I guess we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think this did much. I
think this was just for the fan boys. Well honestly though,
actually I'll take that back. I think this gave a
clear image of Momoa, and I do think Momoa is
a draw for the general audience. I think he is
one of those guys that ladies like to look at him,
and guys have that like, oh, I'd get a beer
with Momo, right, So I do think he's a draw.
I'm not saying like that makes super Girl massive hit,
but I think if there's a movie of this version
or a version of this movie without Momoa and then
the movie with, I think the movie with the Moa
makes more money every single time. I think he does
get some butts on seeds, so I think it's smart
to start showing him off in the marketing. So but
speaking of showing off, I haven't even updated our calendrang on.
I gotta check the GVCH calendar for Daredevil, is it?
But it isn't this right spot? Attend of day? And
it's confirmed? Actually, I don't know what to confirm. What
was the date confirmed there? I'll have to pull it
up here, March twenty fourth, Okay, so what is confirmed?
So uh, let's see here. Can you pull up that
trail to do a screen share or is your computer
gonna kill the crash on you? Okay, because okay my computer,
I think I got too much stuff open. But one second.
So yeah, they did release that. I'm not sure. I
guess the rumors they might be playing someone like this
might be played after wonder Man. I don't know. Again,
I thought it's interesting that they're already showing this off,
like wonder Man hasn't even come out, and they're just like, hey,
look at Daredevil. But it has been confirmed for March
twenty fourth, so obviously, before we go, Tayo, what did
you think of this?
Speaker 2: This trailer felt very much Daredevil Lee, Like, it's just
from what I after three seasons Born Again and seeing
him pop up in their place, it's just it feels
like it's it's his vibe, it's his theme. And what
I took away from this trailer was, Okay, we're gonna
have another period of time where he's gone missing or
he's gonna be absent, he's not gonna be working again. Yeah,
that's what I felt, because, especially when you see those
Matt Murdoch posters going up Matt Murdock missing, I'm like, oh,
he's gonna be hiding in the church basement again for
the whole season and we know we're not gonna see
him for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh So probe the reverse though maybe maybe it's the
reverse of season three where he's almost like nothing but
in the suit. Also we see a lot of map
but maybe he's in the suit of law, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, i'd take that. I would love to see
him more in the suit, but I mean, so far
from what I saw on the trailer, it got me
pretty pretty stoked. Like I was messaging you and kirkl
Kirklands still hiding He's not in respond Oh yeah, let's
do that Jessica Jones retro. Let's see Kirkland if you
want to get at it.
Speaker 1: So I said that was not worth the time. If
the Patriots, I guess could wait and then really want it.
But like season one, which I feel like you watched
season one and you didn't even love it, and that's
considered the.
Speaker 2: Best, I don't even remember it. I don't remember it.
Speaker 1: Season two and three are big, big note dives, like
I remember, I think it was the third season. It
was really tough for me and Dylan to get through it.
Speaker 2: It was a grind, it was. It was tough. But
David Tennant as a.
Speaker 1: He appears sporadically, but he's primarily just the villain of
season one. So that's the thing there. But yeah, David
Tennant isn't that one. But yeah, I liked this. I
feel like this was just more of an announcement because
like it is kind of crazy that March twenty fourth,
it's less than two months away, you know, like we're there.
So I feel like they're just trying to get it going.
And it's tough because if we didn't know Jessica Jones
was in this trailer, it'd be hype. But we knew that,
so that was there. We've kind of like from season one,
we knew, Okay, it's gonna be these people taking on Fisk,
and that's what this was. There's one spot in the
trailer that I'm very confused on and intrigued by, but
so far, like this was good, but it didn't also
blow me away. And I think the other thing as
we you know, you can check out our Golden gigks.
We did talk about maybe some lack thereof of Daredevil.
I think we all enjoyed borning in, but we all
kind of realized there was some faults. Obviously we knew
about all the production issues that they kind of changed
showrunners halfway through and reshot a bunch of stuff. So
maybe once we got Born in season two, and if
it all the way is great, then I'll be more hyped.
It's just like I still need them to prove me
a little bit to be like, and I'm still excited
to see, you know, Matt and Karen and Fisk on
all them, even Bullseye. I fucking love Bullseye, But like,
it's not the same way I was hyped for Born
again because we had a couple bumps in the road there.
But yeah, I keep playing this tailor. I'll see if
there's I'll tell you when I saw it. But I
think there's one specific thing. Oh again, get this out here.
Gross Karen and Man the TV shows not a fan
to me.
Speaker 2: I'm not there because I'm there where he's like punisher
Karen is just like ready to jump his bones, right,
I like.
Speaker 1: And this is no disrespect the actors. I think, uh
mur or Charlie Cox and uh oh, what's your real
knife name? Deborah and woll I think they have good chemistry.
I think my problem is I think they have better
chemistry as friends. And I think Frank and you know
or John Burke and Deborah have better like romantic chemistry.
Like there's just something there. I I just always liked
that more in the show. I'm not talking about the
com books. But uh, okay, continue, Bowley's getting some whip cream.
He's looking happy, you know, always happy. Kirklan's favorite character
back Cherry on top. Uh you know New York is
doing this thing over here, so they dance. I guess
they're just together.
Speaker 2: What is stand for? Again?
Speaker 1: Isn't it like a B T is anti a V
T anti vigilant. Yeah, that's again logo on there too. Yeah,
they introduced that near the end. It looks like physical
and Vanessa happy. Now that's with that's with him. I
think it was yeah now yeah, because if you go back.
Speaker 2: This lathing else, it's just doing I don't think there's
any right here.
Speaker 1: It could be, yeah, I think it's just they're they're
having a good time. It seems like fisc is on top.
That's the biggest thing right now here you pause here,
these are the two shots in the tree that.
Speaker 2: Disclosure day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna look up. He's just gonna see, uh,
where's my boy. He's gonna see uh, come on, and
for Drog just staring at him. Matt, we need you alienasion.
This is what was interesting because they got this. So
it's a moment where they're dancing and he kind of
looks like he's having a seizure here something. The aspect
ratio changes to like a four by three, like it
goes boxed and shaking and stack and stuff and keep
going because then there's another weird shot after this. Uh,
you're gonna have to be quick on it. No, No,
it's good, you know, yeah, right there, you can go
back a little bit. What the fuck is I don't
know it is an image of Mayor Fisk, but it
is like it's clearly not actually Wilson Fisk. It's like
someone wearing like a Wilson Fist mask, and I don't
know if they're doing some mind trickery. I don't think
it's him, but man, that looks like mister Knight's suit
with a moonlight mass. Wouldn't that be hype? If he
took off that mask and Oscar isaacs under there, that'd
be great. But my only reason to pons is because
at first of that they're just messing with us. This
is like a YouTuber or some influencer making fun of
Fisk or doing something. The only thing is that this
is still boxed, like it has the same aspect ratio
as Matt does. And I threw to the guachat no
one gave me fucking anything. Hot crowd, Hot crowd, I'm like,
what's going on here? Any theories? And the only thing
I first thought was character to There's a character in
the Daredevil Lare who's back guy called mister Fear, and
he's pretty much just his scarecrow where he uses like
drugs or stuff like that to make people scared. And
that's the only thing I thought was, well, Matt's having that,
and this looks like this could be like in a
lucination sort of thing. The only thing that throws me
off is like it makes like static sounds, and I
don't think mister Fear like uses it through like static.
So obviously you don't have the calm book history, but
you got any idea like what's going on here with
Matt falling And you've got this weird mare fists. This
is here's cause play. Here's actual cause play, you know, cheap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like with this, I'm not a hundred percent sure
because like with this, I'm I take out the same
way I'm sure most people do. It's like, oh, this
character is gonna be some sort of impersonator or not impersonator,
but someone who's just a streamer trying to like show
the truth. You know, Yes, his name Kingpin as well.
I feel like that's kind of a specific reason, someone
who's not a friend of fisks so, but.
Speaker 1: They splice it specifically with Matt falling though, right, That's
that's where I'm it could just be trail their trickery
but that's where I'm a little confused of why they
putting it at the same time there.
Speaker 2: Right, well there, yeah, there must be some kind of
some connection, I guess. But yeah, that's the thing, like,
whoever it is knows, well, do they know that the
Matt's in this room right now because they're attacking his senses, right,
they're going for his ears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Karen's fine, it's not like a joint thing.
It's not like a joint thing. So and that's where
again that's boxed. And then when you go to Kingpin,
that's like a wide screen giving all the way.
Speaker 2: I was just seeing if they had another aspect ratio
change and this they don't. They don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm curious what this is. I hope it's
something media, not just like because it was it took
the trailer to a different route, So I hope it's
not just that we told her. Oh, it's just some
YouTuber and they're just spicing it because I don't know
what who's going after Matt's senses?
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I don't know much of that.
But that's a good observation. So let's see here he's laughing,
he's laughing, having a good time. Oh, it kind of
cuts back there a little bit briefly.
Speaker 1: It has it has Fisk in the chair, but Fisk
is in the He's still in the wider aspect ratio.
Speaker 2: Right, so yeah, because he's there, and then they put
him upside down. Why would they put him upside down?
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what's interesting. I do like that,
mass so, and then we just got he got Matthew
literally there, he's back. He's playing character, or he's not back.
He's in here for the first time. He's playing mister Charles.
I think we don't really know who he is, but
you remember who Matthew Lillard is. Whoa Well, go back
to Jessica Jones.
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, Matthew Lord, Matthew Lillard Li Lillard trailer.
Speaker 1: Just mute it.
Speaker 2: Then, just mute it, Matthew Lillard. Why can't because it's
it's some juicy stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, well it's not playing on the stream for us.
Speaker 2: But Matthew Lillard, he plays.
Speaker 1: Stew and Scream, he plays Shaggy and Scooby Doo, he
plays in Finites and Freddy's is a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's in the show. Okay, Yeah, he's in here.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know Shaggy Okay, Jessica Jones here, she was confirmed.
They get some fun lines but she's not gonna care.
And we get to see act. Jessica Jones' action great.
Very excited to see christ Re minder back. She's great
in this role. I just curious about how many episodes
she's actually in. But I think that's smart to start
showing off too for anybody that doesn't know they can
behave Christi Minders also in the show. Come watch if
you're like Jessica Jones, you know, mm hmm, that's a
red going on that church and.
Speaker 2: Then there, oh yeah, he's thinking about ah.
Speaker 1: Well, you know he's deaf. That's definitely the I I
could be wrong. I feel like that's a daredevil Bullsy
team at moment right. I feel like they're making us thick.
It's different because like, look like if you go to
the next scene when he grabs a hand, this might
not be the exact same scene, but the way he's
bringing this person up. Because I've had this theory for
a while because the last very episode of the show
was teasing at Bulls. I having like somewhat of a
redemption or switching side. So I do think Bullsye is
gonna be working with Matt to take down Fisk.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, you think after everything.
Speaker 1: One life for a million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so that'd be cool. I'm down to see
that kind of a team up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, that's a very uneasy team up.
Speaker 2: So it is they'll team up to help fight Flash Thompson.
Actually that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need exactly needs. And then obviously you show
this incorrectly on the goal geeks that's coming up. But
the black suit, we're seeing that full emotion here, the
black dar devil suit, which I love.
Speaker 2: I didn't even notice it. Oh yeah, a little more light,
Oh there it is there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little dark there, but I think most
of the trailer he's got the black suit. So and
the poster too, it's the black suit one. So I'm
very excited. Yes, there's Jones taking out some fools. This
didn't work for me in the trailer. It like cut
the music into a little joke of like do we
saw him or bear him? Didn't work for me. Not
on this trailer.
Speaker 2: For me, saw or what brain? Bear him? Is a body?
Speaker 1: Like do we saw or bury him?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, not like you are not that saw.
Speaker 1: It looks likes gonna be doing a boxing match for
charity and that what it.
Speaker 2: Dream sequence thing like.
Speaker 1: But no, I think he's probably because he's the mayor, right,
so he's probably doing some like charitable event. But clearly
it looks like in this trailer.
Speaker 2: He takes it too far, just murders him.
Speaker 1: Maybe not murder, but heavily can cussed. They have multiple
shots of balls. Okay, go back and it. Uh they
got multiple shots of bulls eye that diner like, I
don't know what's is he waiting for fucking Riddler over there?
But if you continue, you see Matt. I can't remember
her name, but Matt's girl from him from last season.
Speaker 2: That was the lawyer right here.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, which i'd kinda I guess you gotta resolve them.
Of course, that character I dislike so much. I would
have not a miss her at all if they were
just like, ah, she died in between her she went missing.
But what do you think they're gonna do? Do you
think she's gonna have like a is she going more
fisk and be like, I'm just gonna get further into
the mindwarp of Wilson Fisk. Word is is she eventually
going to see the light on all this stuff?
Speaker 2: I think I could see them killing her and I
could see her having the light at the end of
the tunnel, the moment at the end, you know, when
she gets killed.
Speaker 1: But I think Matt's got Karen. Now he doesn't need her, right,
So got Karen?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I agree with you. Light of the tunnel?
All right? Keep going? What else we got in here?
See there's that charity boxing match going.
Speaker 2: No, no, there's fear, and there's such a liberty and
something something equals terrorism.
Speaker 1: Since Xbox sucks on my computer, I don't know what
that is. And then you're showing all the Anti Task
Force handle with kids and stuff.
Speaker 2: That's scary.
Speaker 1: They're they're well, I think he's training or I don't
think they're fighting. Yeah, it's the image of Karen is
like doing some sort of boxing when that clearly he's
training her because she's gonna need some help, right. I
will say, we're not gonna get full into I talked
about yesterday with x men, but very much, I think
more so than like with the mayor, and like the
mayor fists compared to a lot of real life stuff.
I I you remember in the Brave New World first
trailer when they had the president getting shot at, right,
and then things happen and they edited out. I'm very
cure so what they're gonna feel about the time of
the show with the antitask Force thing and all the
stuff that's in America. Like, I wonder if anyone in
that office is like, I don't know if we want
to release the show right now, Like just just seeing
those images and stuff that's going on, it's just like
the way things get worse. So I am curiously as
at least with Foult or not with Captain America. That
was a trailer, right, and they had a couple more runs,
so I guess it's the same thing. Right, there's a
couple more months, so you hope things will cool out.
I'm just saying if things don't cool out, like do
you think in real world, if things are really bad
with that certain thing and there's characters that are like that,
could you ever see them maybe delaying this because I
don't think they can cut out of the show.
Speaker 2: They didn't sure, right, remember when there was that incident,
it was a last they delay the show.
Speaker 1: They did season two got delayed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's always a chance. There's always that possibility
that they could do that because you know, these showriters
just have a knack for timing their their storytelling narratives
with unfortunately very real narratives that kind of coincide with
what they're trying to tell on the show. Yeah, and
so yeah, it's it's it's tricky. I mean, if you
put something out that like this out, you don't want
to have any imposition on people's sensitivity to these things.
But at the same time, these things, depending how the
story is being told, can help create more awareness and
help communicate that and this, and again, this is not
a show that's only going to be in the United States.
It'll be a show that's a bail here in Canada
and around the world. So again it's something that creates
an awareness in other places of around the world too
that people can kind of get to understand a little
bit more. And yeah, Super Bad Mike androidn't shy away
from that real world comparison. It did not. And that's
one of the things I think where people prop it
up is a great show in that that only right.
And I've been seeing memes, not memes, but posts and
stuff ver for and or being much more.
Speaker 1: Definitely mem it now. Oh so I think that, like Mike,
you're definitely right. I think it's just like if things
get really heightened, kind of like my comparison of assassination
storyline Brave New World assassination temp in real life right
where you have things going on in the real world
right now, and if they escalate it could get too
so that that's my only wondering. Don't get me wrong,
I'm all for the content we cover, covering realize stuff
or politics stuff, but lots of times it like there
is times where the crossover of all it's not it's
too sensitive right now. But I just thought about when
we're seeing all this imagery of the the Punisher and
Anti task Force people, like it's a it's some timing
or whatnot so hot to see, but why do you
go back to, oh you just want to see them fighting.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see like before because she was
wearing different clothes in the scene before, so I wasn't
sure if it was the same scene where they're just
training and then they think.
Speaker 1: They're training and having sex or having sex and training.
Speaker 2: Both both back to back fighting at the same time. Yeah,
I just think after seeing Karen and punish her, it
just shows. It shows to me that she's just she
likes the toxic relationships and has like she's craving just
being in a relationship or not being a relationship. She's
craving being with a hero who is deeply disturbed because
between Matt here or Frank. You know, she's just she's
got a thing for those kind of characters.
Speaker 1: Oh that man, she would love that. But yeah, we
didn't mention it as we went by. I think they
did show that image of Foggy he is supposed to
be in flashbacks. I still think there's a chance he's
like back back at some point, Like I I don't know,
I wonder. I don't mind if they keep them off.
I'm fine because I love the Foggy character. But I
still think there's a chance. But yeah, continue on, Yeah
they're training, yeah Foggy. Yeah, and then this this shart here,
it's coming up, keep going, keep going, keep going. I
don't know, Like that kind of did not cocks. That's fun,
but just took me out of like that being the
thumb now and the trailer ends with like Daredevil and
the smile, and it's like for me, it's not like
a like a oh he's gone too far. He's evil,
he's going over the edge. Smile. It just just like
I don't know, it's too good time, Like I don't
know if I want any character smiling till the end
of the season when it's like we've gotten over it.
You know, it's just I don't know if that's what
they meant, if that's what they meant to try to
like like take out some people like he's he's just
like he's loving it. Then you know sure. Ah well, yeah,
Born Again also had unexpected real parallels the future life events,
and yeah, the show has been very timely. So as
I've said before, I always thought in the comics the
Mayor Fith storyline was unbelievable, But now hit the money
on the head. So you keep going back to the smile,
like keep going back.
Speaker 2: There's something weird about the scene like he takes down the.
Speaker 1: Kids two and one. I don't think it's the same.
It might not be the same location, or it might
be different points of the scene.
Speaker 2: It could be because yeah, then here it's different, so
here this is obviously the training room that yeah, yeah,
the bar. The thing about this is this guard on
the left. They're both charging it, but the guard and
the left is charging and pulls out his knife and
then they both stop the guy. Yeah, that's exactly right,
the guy on the that was on the left of
the knife. It looks like he's rising into the sky.
Speaker 1: Like this looks like a weird I think it's I
think it's multiple scenes cut together. That's what I think
it is, I guess.
Speaker 2: But like his movements don't make sense because like he's
running and it's like he's being they're both being force
choked because he's like he's rising up and not it's
not like an actual proper jump. And then here this
is in a different room that's in their seats. Like
you said, scene cut differently because you got the police
lights and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like what they do at the logo
here when it all turns the black and whatnot. So
March twenty fourth, there we go. They didn't say it
was gonna be two episodes or one, but we got
a lot of red and black going on between that
and all, which we'll talk about. But yeah, overall, I
am excited this didn't. I'll just say like I kept
the same my washer and okay, cool, that dates confirmed.
I'm excited for more Daredevil, but it didn't optic by excitement.
Did uptick your excitement at all?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, a little bit, A little bit, like
I'd say, mostly in favor because I've said a million
times I'm watching Punisher right now, so it just kind
of has me a little projuiced on this, this universe
that we've we've got unfolding, and so just to kind
of get back into the Daredevil side of things, that's
got me pumped. And then you know, Spiderman brand new day,
let's put him in there too. Let's just keep this,
keep this going. And you know Freshman your season two again,
let's neighborhood. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: That was their fault. They called it that. So yeah, okay,
Well there we go, got darede wil happening, so we
will be there. We're viewing that weekly, very excelling time.
Uh honestly, did you have anything more? I'm keeping stars
near the end because I know we'll have a that's
a two fur, but owesot you have anything more to
add on this? Still looking good?
Speaker 2: To me, go ahead, it's yeah, it still looks good.
I don't have much just you know, it's a cool
little teaser. Yeah, I mean the voices. I think Mike
was talking about that in the chat. The voice is
a little bit peculiar. Can say all things considered the
time period and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But well, yeah, and the guy that's talking in the
war room there, Travis Scott. He's a rapper, uh famously
ruined won the WrestleMania made events. But that definitely was
odd to see him there. I I'm hoping it's just
for a like a thirty second a minute thing. I
don't have. I have more problem which has Scott in there,
because that takes me out of it than I do.
With the voices. I do understand. Uh, Like I've said
this before, with the costumes and the voices and everything.
I understand why if that bugs people, like Mike was saying,
I get that. I'm not saying that do is bug you,
It just doesn't bug me. It's the same way like
people in the bitch about Nolan's action stuff. I'm not
saying you're wrong, I'm not saying doesn't bug you. But
for me, I just I don't watch the Nolan movies
for that. It's for the other stuff, and I'm fine
enough with the action. So for me, Travis Scott is
a bigger is a bigger. It's also like we cover
him on the We covered a lot of this resting
stuff and then gimmick and it kind of became a meme.
So for me, it's just when I see Truscot's like Jesus.
But I'm still excited. It's looking good. I cannot wait
for this movie. Mike's voices and dialogue dad instead of father,
I did see, And that's that's something I did see
trending on my algorithm and day of Like the word
dad wasn't invented for two thousand years. I guess it
just doesn't bug me like I get it. Don't get
me wrong, I understand saying hell and Star Wars right, Well, no,
that's different because that's like religious base, right, and you
would It's just the word.
Speaker 2: It's the word hasn't been invented. It shouldn't exist that word.
It should be a different word for that time and place.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't hell exist?
Speaker 2: No, I mean it's the thing I could just like
dads exist, but Star Wars like they say hell, but
it would it should be a different word. Why would
they say hell, Okay.
Speaker 1: This is this is this is not comparable. Star Wars
is a fake universe where like where the Odyssey is
supposed to be based, Like the word dad didn't actually exist,
right like Star Wars is a sci fi space universe,
like we have no we have no actual proof of
what's going on in Star Wars where in that time
era of Odyssey, they weren't saying dad, right, Yeah, yeah,
that that's the thing. So yeah, I just yeah, Robert
and and but that's the thing, right. I feel like
that's why if Robert Egers, Mike sus Robert egg Get
said that's one of his best things are how true
they are to the era or the look, the feel,
the vibe. You see Robert Ergar's movie and you see
a photo or you read stuff about it's like you've
been teleported back. That's what I am there for, Robert
Eggers and some super fucked up dark core for no one.
That's I'm there for the spectacle. I'm there to be
wow and odd. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying
he should not do that. Maybe that could make the
film more a purple score for you, Mike, I get that,
but for me, it's not like a holding up point.
But I am excited for it. And then we got
what are your thoughts here on Super Mario Galaxy big
trailer where they're showing Yoshi, they're showing burto lots of
stuff going on. I know you and the boys really
like that first one, So did this same thing uptick
your excitement?
Speaker 2: It's got my excitement up there, it did. The score
from the trailer was getting me really really amped up,
and I was really driving with Yeah, just all the
other characters that we got to see more Yoshi and
that Burdo appearance. Really that caught me off guard. I
don't think I realized that that person, that character was
in there before if they announce it or anything like that.
Scott Scott his.
Speaker 1: Voicing, Oh yeah, cool, Well whose story I missed? You
didn't say who was in there.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was confirmed. I don't think it's
ever been confirmed till the other day, which makes me
not sad, like I'm not like a Burrow stand or anything,
but like I feel like Burtrow's just gonna be like
an easy boss along the way, like I feel like Burtle.
Speaker 2: You could maye maybe they'll be a boss. I won't
like team up and a team up character. I know
they're a villain technically.
Speaker 1: Well they're fighting Peach in this one, so I I
guess you could be right, but I don't think so.
I think it's just gonna be like a mini boss
on the.
Speaker 2: Way okay, But yeah, other than that, I think it was.
It was great. It was cool to see. I guess
we're gonna see how Yoshi ties into Luigi Mario and
their baby versions because it seems like Yoshi was present
there with his gun, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm wondering do you think it's a flashback
or do you think that they just get turned back?
See I just think they just get turned into babies.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I guess we really know, right, because when
did they introduce the baby forms that not paper Mario?
Where did they come in? Was it a Mario Kart game?
Speaker 1: I doubt that. Well, no, it has to be Yoshi Island.
Remember when Yoshi used to protect baby Mario right the
whole game when you lose Marini. So I guess that
is because is that canon? Right, they did grow up
in Mushroom Kingdom or whatever, because I don't really care
about the canon Mario. I just play these games, but like,
is that something that they grew up because like Peach
grew up there, did they also grow up in Mario
Kingdom or Super Mushroom Kingdom? Eh, week, did they grow
up there?
Speaker 2: Let's see, because there is lore here. Yeah, maybe baby
Mario was raised and protected by Yoshi and Yoshi's island
after being dropped by the stork. As in Super Mario
World two, Yoshi's Island, Yoshi helps rescu his brother baby
Luigi from Browser and Camick.
Speaker 1: I just feel like the like the canon lore from
Mario's all over the place, the fact that it's like, again,
his name is Mario Mario, you know, like the Mario
stuff is a lot of dumb shit. So I'm not
too concerned about it.
Speaker 2: But go ahead to So a stork was delivering baby
Mario and Luigi, but the stork gets attacked by Camick,
causing Baby Mario to fall on to like to where
Yoshi is.
Speaker 1: So Mario and so there's supposed to be twis brothers.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know what, I wrote a trivia note
about that. Well, hang on, hang on. This is perfect
timing that it's coming up because I wrote a note
about it.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be trivia for trivia or doing in
the future like for GVDA. Yes, well then don't don't spoil.
Speaker 2: It, you know, no, I can. I can spoil it.
I can spoil it. Okay, well hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so this trip for me, this is I
feel like there's no difference. I think if you really
enjoyed or loved that first one, you're gonna love that.
If you did not, if you disliked it, or you
were like me where you thought it was very mid
and just like it's a bunch of cutscenes put together
that are like there's no way to that's what's gonna
be it. I think they're gonna go hard on Yoshi,
like to the point that I feel like, by the
time this movie comes out, we're gonna be annoyed with
Yoshi because no, Yoha's gonna be like all of the
marking and everything. But my kids were hype when I
watch it with them. I think Yoshi will actually possibly
get them to make more money. I'm waiting to see
if there's anything else because so this didn't uptake my hit,
my my hype. It's just out the same. I'm waiting
for like Warrior war Luigi. But Taylor, you do have
that fat That's what I want.
Speaker 2: I want, I want Luigi for sure. So the deets
here are now, I was listening to this show where
I just popped into my mind here. But so Mario Luigi.
They're officially recognized as fraternal twins, not identical twins, Luigi
being the younger, taller twin. And this is a fact
confirmed by the creator Shigeru Miyamoto, and it's referenced and
obviously like Super Mario, Brothers, Wonder and stuff. So fraternal,
not identical. They aren't identical identical twins. They developed from
two eggs, resulting in different traits hence Luigi's height and
different personalities.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to tell me the difference of fraternal
twins when I just had fraternal twins last year.
Speaker 2: Your twins are fraternal? I thought they're identical. No, oh shit,
I mean my wife is a fraternal twin.
Speaker 1: Hey, Travis, get this. You're not gonna have a leave
of these twins. I don't need to know the twins
that's I just didn't know they were twins. That's fine
at all.
Speaker 2: My wife's being where she come around the corner and
she's like.
Speaker 1: I didn't I just thought that, yes, she's listening this podcast.
I just didn't even I knew there were brothers. I
just didn't know they were twins.
Speaker 2: So they are twins. No, well they're fraternal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what that is. Yeah, like even then
a couple of years ago, I didn't know their like
you know their last names, right, you know?
Speaker 2: There isn't it brother?
Speaker 1: No, it's Mario.
Speaker 2: Okay, so his name is Mario, Mario and Mario.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I mean. No, I'm not you look
it up. Me and Moto confirmed this. The guy that
is like the guy at created Mario. It was said
in like something, Yeah it was. That's what I mean,
like the Mario lord and everything. It's so fucking dumb.
The whole plumber thing, like same thing. I thought. The
original story was he was a plumber that got transport
to a kingdom to save like the peach to queen
went at right, the princess. But then like, oh, well
he did actually grow up here and well he has
these brothers like they're always just changed, but they don't
really care. And that's fine to me, right, That's why
I'm not like, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I'm not losing sleep. It's not like Lord to me.
Speaker 1: No me either, That's why it's just like it's just
like when I'm like, oh, is this how it goes? Like?
You know, it doesn't really matter, and I I hope
that I hoped to enjoy this one a little bit
more in the first one, but I think that's gonna
make a lot of money with Yoshi in there, and
uh yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be surprised if they do a little
Eastrike thing where you pull he has like an id's like,
what's your last name and be like, my name, it's
Mario Mario. My name is Luigi Mario, just to throw
like some confusion jokes.
Speaker 1: I think they well I don't know about the idea,
but they did. I think they did. In the last
movie is dress that I think he says a Mario
Mario and this is Luigi Mario. I think they introduced
somebody to like in a conversation and the and the
other the previews, Yeah, watch it. I'm pretty sure they Yeah,
I'm prety sure because that created the whole Like why
his name Mario? And then they look back and I
think it was somewhere in the nineties they put them
in the game, and then like twenty fifteen, like Mimoto,
like h confirm that he was, like, ok am I right, Mimoto,
he created Mari Right Mario?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shagaru Mia Moto.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Didn't want to mess it up with the
smash one. Who's the smash one?
Speaker 2: Tell me he smash brother?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be pissed off at Usa Saara. Yeah, I
always good, but I didn't mess it up, So that's good.
So got that going on. So here's another one. We
talked about fine enough eighties. We talked about our movie
preview that was out that in this GV Realm, none
of us are much of a fan out, so I'm
gonna throw a tailor and uh, Tara, what do you
think of this he Man trailer?
Speaker 2: I okay, I don't know anything about he Man, nothing
at all, but I watched a trailer and I thought,
you know, this seems like a prime two thousand and
twelve to twenty fifteen era CGI Fest action flick. It
just feels like, actually, no, you know what it is.
It feels more like a twenty eighteen twenty nineteen Power
Rangers equivalent kind of vibe, just all the CGI and
everything like things like the world's meshing kind of a scenario.
But like I said, I don't know anything about it.
The trailer didn't blow me out of the water, but
I also didn't hate it. I don't know if i'd
rush to see it in theaters. This is more like
a cheap Tuesday thing. But the people that I've spoken
to that did grow up with some he man, they
they expressed interests like are you gonna go see it data,
because I'll go with you to the theater. I'm like, Okay,
clearly there is some buzz and there is some kind
of interest in this film if you grew up with it.
I don't think this is gonna make a lot of money.
And I'm glad that I drafted during our draft. Did
anyone drafted in the draft?
Speaker 1: Let me pull it off. I'll see, I'll see the draft.
Is he's the movie draft line? It might just be
I gotta check. I know it's for the page. If
hang let me check. If someone did draft and I
won't say who Also, you know it's not me or Taylor.
I'm guessing unless I did, I don't even remember because
some we've done a lot of drafts, pass a little bit.
But yeah, I I really like this. Like you said,
it's one of those where like there's a group of
people that are gonna go see it. Let's see he Man.
No one drafted so all, but I think we all
just looked in and like, I think that's a tough thing.
It's just I've said this before about the Muppet. I
said this a couple of years ago, and fortune with
Minel Keanes Batman and also and even Indiana Jones. I
think he Man might just end up being one of
those relics where it's like, you know what, this generation
of moviegoers, it's past them, right, It's gone. It's not
like Mario that has continually been popular for decade after decade.
There's been many peaks in many values with he Man. Right,
I'm not a fan. I will not be seeing this
even cheap Tuesday, like and especially because that's a tough thing, right, Like,
I'll pull it up one more time because ditch me,
what is it? It's kind of on June. I'm pretty sure.
And I've said this before in a lesser month or
lesser summer, maybe right, I didn't think it looked completely awful,
but it didn't like sell it to me, like, man,
I'm missing something here. And I like Tras Knight's movies
really like Bumblebee, Cold two Strings, like great stuff he's done.
So I think it could be like a solid seven
out of ten, could be some fun. I like the cast,
and here a look of Skelter is actually great. There's
actually that one cool moment that something. I think lots
of the environments and stuff not looking good, like Taya said,
looking very just cgi fests like not anything. It doesn't
look like oh man, It's like I'm not saying this
is the benchmark, right is doune, But it's like it
doesn't have that where if I see a picture of
he Man in the whatever universe? Is a calling it
or do they?
Speaker 2: Is it just he Man?
Speaker 1: What's it called?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Fuck them? In twenty twenty five, hang on is a
he Man master or is it just master with the universe?
Let's see here master universe. Okay, so it does not
have an aesthetic where at least even then here you
go James gun Superman. Not everything is like perfect in
that movie. But when I see images or clips from
that movie, right a, where you go, Okay, that's James
Gunn Superman.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This just looks like it could be a bunch of
this at times looks like just be in some of
the bad colored MCU movies. Right, So I think look
wise and everything, but those last like fifteen to twenty
seconds of like he Man and Sculptor fighting that looked
really cool. I was down for that. So if we
get like multiple action scenes like that, because Austin Coobland's
two strings he did great action stuff, that'd be fantastic.
I just worry that is the the top tiers, that
final fight, right, But like, okay, so look at June.
So luckily it has even though I'll go back to
April right or May here right, so May Moral Kombat
two All right, that's fine, uh Man Larn Grogu and
that's there's other movies, but like those are the two
big ones, right, I see mal Arn Grogu. I think
people will see that and when they might skip Maaster
Universe because I'll see me manlor In Grogu and then
in June after Master's Universe, you got Disclosure Day, Scary
Movie six, Toy Story five, Jackass five, Supergirl, Minion's three, Mulwana,
Christopher Nolan's Odyssey, Evil dead Burn, and Spider Man Brand
New Day. I think Wonder or Wonder Man. I think
he Man is gonna be the situation where I think
there's just a lot of people being like if I
have to go to the movies, and people will maybe
only go to see a couple of those movies can
be expensive if you're not on like cineclub or a
list or whatever. If you're only seeing a few movies
the summer, I don't think this is gonna be one
of them. If it was a lesser summer, then maybe,
But I don't think there's enough people. I think there
will be people that go, but I don't think the
phantom is big enough to carry it. So that's my
thing where I don't think it's gonna be money tail.
I was saying my favorite Charlottes Stred at the end
with skeletoring, he men are fighting, It's like the close
ups of the sword. I really like that stuff. Have
you heard, I'm guessing have you heard the big controversial
thing with this trailer.
Speaker 2: That Jared Leto is playing a skeleton.
Speaker 1: They wish no. So this is where I think it's
because I always get the news and I'm a bit
more in the long online bubble than these guys. And
that's where I think for me, is where always a
testament to what people really care about, what just online
people get mad about. So at one point, when he's
in the real world, Adam, that's the guy who's he Man,
like his characters, Adam something when he's at his desk.
Did you see on his desk he had a a
he himn name tag?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was clever.
Speaker 1: I did too, So I get So here's the thing.
So this is why it's funny, like two sides where
it's like people there's some people that think they're making
fun of pronouns and then there's some people thinking that
they're making it. Very woke. To me, it's just like
in a world where we see multiple things. I see
it all the time. People have in their email like
he you know him, she her? Like his fucking name
is he Man? So I think it's funny in real
life we're at his job, like oh yeah, whether he
chose to or this Hey, can you show your pronouns?
He's he him, he's fucking he man later on like,
I don't know, it's just but yeah, you haven't seen
that tap. People got very worked up about that. So
there you go.
Speaker 2: Then people, people guys just take a breather. Man on,
is there any group in the middle, because I think
it was clever. I think some people. I think it's
respectful to like the him pronoun usage and what not,
and it reaffirms like using it he's, he's using it correctly, right.
But it's also it stacks out with the fact that yeah,
it's it's his name, and I think that's that's that's
the name. Me laugh because yeah, he's he's he man.
And I saw that, I was like, that's really that's
actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. I agree, that's where I was, but
unfortunately we won't be there to support it with. Mike says,
there's some great human related TV in the past for years. Netflix,
She Rah Show is pretty amazing, Yeah, for good things.
I just I think it's just what we've talked about before.
In this era of so much stuff, like right now,
I think I have three shows from this year or
even like the ending of last year that I'm behind
on or I hadn't even started, right, Like, that's the
thing where it's like in the world where there's stuff
I really want to watch, and I'm behind on that,
like the he Men genre, a world I haven't really
wanted to. So yeah, now we will transition into the
Star Wars portions. We're gonna talk about maltrailer and we
are gonna talk about which is good because someone clarified
the scoop of this Mandalorian Hair of the Empire movie.
But yeah, well, first start with maul Tara, what did
you think of this trailer? We're getting it. I think
it's April something. The finale's gonna be on May the fourth,
right now for our reviews because we're very busy those months,
like we already have Euphoria and Daredevil happening at the
same time. Mean, and also the other thing is they
come out on a Monday, which is kind of a
pain for us because sie Quest is there, so there's
many weeks like Taylor might be on, I might be on.
It's kind of tough. What we're gonna do for now
is we're gonna probably people talk about this. We're gonna
do a series review. If it's really juicy, we have time,
we might do like a part one part two, but
as right now, I think we're just gonna do a
binge So if people are wanting our schedule that it's
just because there's lots of stuff between side quests, Euphoria, Daredevil, Newscast, whatever,
movie reviews like. It's already packed months, So me and
Tayre will review it at least in binge style. But
it's releasing two episodes a week. I think it's starting
the nineteenth or something. So, Taylor, what do you think
about this trailer? It's in between Clone Wars and I
guess Solo, I imagine.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's a year after the events
of Revenge of the Sith, and there's still for a
character that's been explored very depthly in the animated show,
there's still a lot that can be dabbled into. I mean,
he was a very prominent figure in Clone Wars. Again,
he was prominent in Rebels, and when you look at
his story leading up to Solo, you have a character
that goes from running all of these cartels and pirate
gangs and everything like that black market stuff going all
the way to just being this kind of like behind
the scenes black player, just not operating in the front
lines anywhere. After being just shunned and just brought down
by Palpatine, and then he goes back and takes over
Mandalor and has Mandalorian lauryalists, and then you have the
war on Mandalora that happened, all this crazy stuff. So
getting him here or he is broken out by Ahsoka,
he's running on his own now and he's dealing with
the fallout of Order sixty six, so people are aware
of him. Obviously the Empire, well I guess the Republic
before it dissolve, would have had records that he was
being transported and then in the event of them doing
the purge escaped, so well, no, they wouldn't have known
because Ahsoka covered the tracks that they had to just
they had to scuttle the cruisers so that they would
think she died in the crash and that they wouldn't
go after her. That's how she was able to stay hidden.
So that would also retroactively work for Mall two, and
that Mall would have died and maybe Anakin or Vader
would have had some inkling that maybe there's a chance
to survive. But we know for a fact at this point,
with Ahsoka being hidden in rebels, the inquisitors were aware
of Mal and Mall was obviously a very much aware
of Vader. He was aware of what like he wanted
to lure Anakin the mandel or he wanted to kill
Anakin and deny the Emperor his prize. Right, he knew
about the plan, He knew about all this stuff. So
now here he is dealing with the inquisitors and fighting them. Yeah,
there's just there's a special place from all in my
heart because you're dealing with an individual that was trained
like as far as Sith go, Like Mall is just
a powerhouse because you look at this lineage from plague
Us to Sidious and Sidious to Mal. Yes, Anakin and
Douku are Sith and that lineage as well, but they
had different masters, they were trained differently, and it's a
very different upbringing. Where Mal he was just you know,
mother talls in often to Palpatine and trained him since
he was a youngling up until this grueling adulthood where
he was a Sis apprentice. Like there's just there's I
give him that kind of different tier versus Anakin and
seeing him perform and just adapt these traits that Palpatine
has into these shows where he's just yeah, he's he's
just he's such an engaging and interesting character, and here
he is dealing with all of these cartels and these clans.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what hismo Like any master at this point,
you're gonna recruit and you're going to try and pull
in an apprentice. And we see that in Rebels. He's
always trying to pull an apprentice and he calls Ezra
all the time, my apprentice, and I was just like,
fuck off. You know, I'm not your apprentice. I'm your friend.
But I like the idea of them showing off this
Twilight and maybe there's a chance that there's no confirmation
that I've seen where people are like, yeah, this is
Darth Talon. I don't see the facts to back that up,
but I would love it if there is some world
out there where they're fan dangling a storyline and this
is me headcanting it where Okay, yes, this Twilight is
trained by Darth Maul and a a a few years
goes by, because we've got a I don't I think
Solo was ten years after Revenge of the Sith and
then ten years before. Maybe it was five No, it
might have been fifteen years after Revenge and five years before.
A New Hope might have been a lot more recent.
So I like the idea where you're dealing with a
fifteen year spam where Mal doesn't get killed until two
years before a New Hope, like two years or a year,
because that's covered in rebels. So I like this gauge
here where Mal is training this Twilight over the course
of a decade, and then this Twilight goes off on
their own and just starts doing their own thing, hiding
behind the scenes and whatnot, and then you jump thirty
years into the future. I guess it'd be more like fifty. Well, no,
because if they're youngling here, let's say they're in there
mid twenties, late twenties by the time of the original trilogy,
and then you had the thirty year break from the
sequel trilogy to there, then you're dealing with a twilight
that's like, let's say late forties to fifties, and like
they're still and we don't know, I don't know the
age range of Twilights really, but you're dealing with someone
like prime adulthood who could fit right in there. And
you've got Ray and there's like rumors going around that
there's this dark wheel lightsaber wielding Twilight going around. It's like, Okay,
now we've got someone named Darth Talent, and maybe they
just throw in the others like Darth Krate and and
so forth, Like they could really have a lot of
fun with something like that. And it would to me
you're not leaning on that crutch of oh, Palpatine's back
again or anything like that. But here we've introduced a new,
not new, but a legacy character. I know, I'm really
branched off. I haven't really talked about the trailer. I'm
just I see the trailer and.
Speaker 1: This is what over my head ten minutes left.
Speaker 2: I know, it's just it gets me. I'll stop there.
I'll talk about it later on a newscast. But that's
just where my head goes with this, and it gets
me super superl Jacks. Yeah, that's yeah, that's right. Dylan
love to talk about Darth Talent. Show up. From all
the Darth Talent pictures, look at this one. Dylan let
her lick in this lightsaber.
Speaker 1: But trailer yeah.
Speaker 2: The trailer, right right, right right, the trailer. I enjoyed it.
I liked it a lot, and I think it's gonna
do a good job showing a little bit more of
this this time period. Like it's I like the bad
Batch because it shows the kind of fallout of Revenge
of the Sith and shows just the yeah, the darkness
kind of seeping over. But to see it in this
cartel black market kind of aspect, I really like that.
I think it's gonna be a good time because I
think we got a little bit of that when we
got to see Tales of the Underworld and it showed
like Cad Baine's story a little bit there, and I
liked all that that was going on. That was cool,
and so I think there's definitely room to show more
of this side of the story. I just wish that
this was something that was gonna be shown in live
action because I think a lot of people, especially after
what they did with Mal in Solo, people need to
be told and shown like, hey, Mall is still around.
Here's here's Mal. He's running around doing his thing, right,
And I mean, I don't know what's going on with
Ray Park. If there was some controversy or whatnot. There,
I thought they're not going to be used. They're not
using Okay, then yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I means doing some bad stuff on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Doing some maastive on Instagram. So that definitely creates a
problem for sure. But you know that's right, you recast him.
The main thing is the voice, which Sam Winward provides, right, he.
Speaker 1: Just makes Sam where the real guy and get a
stun guy to do the flips.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly. There's enough makeup that you know, it
covers up. And we've seen him in only one movie, right,
and that was a long time ago, So now you
could have him aged and griddled like he looked in
uh in Solo. So yeah, this just makes sense to me,
but not everyone else. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I think that's the tough thing where I think
I would have been more excited if this was live
action to kind of see dar darf mall again. It's
not that I don't like the animated suff it's like
that just would have made something new. Did point out
Darth Maul is a great lineage. I love Darth Ball.
I don't know if he's in my top ten for
favorite characters, but for cool characters. He's up there, right,
and I think he does a very interesting story. It's
just it feels like even when we went to Clone Wars,
like for the seventh season, he's already in such a
box of like we know where he was, we know
where he came from, we know where he goes, we
know he's doing Rebels, and again it's like they want
to tell like every single thing about Maul. And I
think it's also just the aspect of I wish there's
other stuff they're doing. So now this actual trailer. I
did enjoy this trailer. I think the show's actually got
me good. I think for the most part, Disney animation
for Star Wars has been pretty on point in the
that era, right, so we got like, what was that
show you always make jokes on? It was like the
fire pilot show Resistance, right, so it's.
Speaker 2: Resistance to the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. But other than that, like I enjoyed Rebels,
I actually preferred over Clone Wars. I think we all
enjoyed well season seventy. Like that. We always talk about visions.
The tails have been like up and down, but nothing
like really bad. So like I have no because I
can't I remember someone said the discord, like, oh, is
this gonna be like I think it was maybe Kyle
Goldface is like, oh, this is gonna be bad. So like,
if you like the animation, I think it's gonna hit there.
And at first when I watched my phone, I did
not see because I heard all they were doing this
new like animation style. I didn't really see it. But
then when I saw it on TV and went, oh,
you know what, it is like the Clone Wars, but
they're doing like these brushes. It kind of looks like
some of the uh Arcade stuff. So it's like, oh,
that gives it a good look, so I hope they
just the good thing is about this is like the Acolyte, right,
we heard, oh, we're gonna be following like a bad
dark Side user, right, and like it wasn't really that
we didn't really follow. It was kind of up and
down right where this is like mal shouldn't be becoming
a good guy, right, So it's a good thing we
can follow that and have something a little bit different.
So I am interested in the show. It's just that
there's still other things I'd rather probably take. But maybe
the show will be great when we get there. It's
just also, there's just such little box of mal can't
do this, this, this, this, and this because of the
past or the future, right, So I wonder what that
does for storytelling purposes. I don't know. We'll see, but
I hope to enjoy it. And I'm looking forward to
seeing because I always like seeing Darth Maul pop off.
So we will. I I said, review it and see
what happens. And then so I did share you this,
and we were talking about this building it the full
report here because I think they aggregators didn't put up
there because I don't pay for the Patreon scoopers. I
just wait till people tell them. So that's why it's
always kind of a you know, we see what happens,
but let me pull it up here? Where is the thing?
Give me the oh hang on fucking twitter on? Like
the desktop sucks. Okay, So this was coming from Daniel Rpkay,
so it's in the B tier. So a couple of
days did a Star Wars post, and then he did
clarify some day. I don't know if it wasn't his
original post or he's just clarifying it because aggregators. But
so right now it's being reported that season three for
a Soca isn't green lit, it may never actually happen.
What happens is fully based on how Mandalor and Grogu do,
and then hair the Empire, which is supposed to be film,
is now going to be a limited series. But today
when someone did tweet this out, I think it's the
article thatske but I've shared that same scooper did go
underneath and said depending on how Mandalorian does. So it
sounds like because we were talking about that before of
like oh the movie series, which I think is kind
of like a That's why I don't get me wrong,
I'm not saying this person hasn't heard this. We on
the Gimmick talk AboutUs all the time in wrestling, where
it's like sometimes I think some of these scoopers they
are educated guests, because like I feel like all of
us could have said, like there's only gonna be an
air to the Empire movie if Mando does well, right,
like it's not gonna bomb, and they're like, well, let's
do more of it, right, So again, I guess it
just means like okay, it's they could pivot or not
do that. Ahsoka season three. That makes sense because the
same thing. Let's see what happens, Let's see where that
character goes, and see the reception of it. That show
sounds like it's very mixed, but I think it is
good for Hair the Empire to wade and see because
I think I honestly have no idea. In a couple
of days, I will release with the patrons by twenty
twenty six. Movie predictions for Mike's box office draft. I
really don't know if man Or and Grogu. I think
we've all said this is like Stars has been away
for a while. People love Grogu, but it's also could
they just watch it on TV and it doesn't feel cinematic, right.
I feel like we have no idea and it's in
a busy year. We've no idea how Grogu and Mandalorian's
gonna do. So I think that is the right move
that see all that does and make it a show
or a series. I think if man Lurien Grogu does well,
and probably you'll talk about this, we're talking about this privately,
but in the sense of you took your time and
you made the jump right, and that's why we got
so excited in the Mandalorian season finale two when the
person gets grogulhos Luke Skywalker. You made the jump because
that was always the sort of like, oh are they
ever gonna touch those characters. They're gonna get to the
main line stuff. That was them put in their foot
and then he was in Boa Fette and then I
remember Kathy you being like, oh, we're staying away from
Skywalker's for a bit, yet Tata has that change? Was
that a Kaffe thing? We did that change before her? Honestly,
Filoni and Lynnwin Brendlan is running things now, so I
don't know. But to me, it's like if unless manealin
Grogu's a hit. To me one story wise, it feels
weird if Luke, Han and Lea aren't around for Hair
of Empire, because it's like, what throw on? All these
people are doing this stuff and just like Mandoa and
his friends are hanging out, that seems odd. You already
introduced Luke, so you just make Luke look like a
complete dick for doing nothing if he's just sitting around whatever.
And I really hope that I would love it, Like,
to me, it would be bold of folony. I would
give him so much respect. He said, we're doing the
Air to Empire movie. Luke, Conan Lea are gonna be
in it, and they're all gonna be recasts, They're gonna
be new actors because I agree that people like we
can't do dh Luke forever. I think Alden you could
give him another shot, but I think there's just a
lot of like baggage with that, and there's a lot
of people make myself that didn't think he did a
good job. I would respect Linnwin and Filoney so much that, yeah,
we're doing their Empire and you're gonna meet the new
Luke Hana Land. If you like these characters, or if
we could do more stories with these characters. Sebastian Sanz
Luke like he's gonna play Luke going forward for a bit.
So and So's Han so and So's Leya, like I
would love them to do that. I don't know if
they're going to. I feel like they're always scared, but
it's like, stop being scared. So I heard you breathe
it over there, What do you have to say?
Speaker 2: They already introduced Leah, so they actively have Lea involved
in live action. In the live action remember in Ahsoka
where Lea's like, I approved that mission for for you guys.
Speaker 1: I know this because I just I just want she
was off screen though, right, she was off screen, but yeah,
I do.
Speaker 2: They don't show the face, but hey, they could definitely
throw someone in there to play her, right, I mean,
I hope. I feel like we've got well, we've gotten
a little kid lea little kid Luke. So I feel like, Okay,
it's probably not long before we get someone to fill
that that role. And it's gonna piss a lot of
people off, for sure, a lot of people will be
pissed off. Part of my bladness. They're gonna be dead soon,
you know. Yeah, that's that's the seventies. This is a
long time ago. And and yes, people are familiar with
these characters in this sequel trilogy, but they're much older then,
and they're in such older roles that you can find
very good, uh younger actors that can play those characters.
And it's not anything to be mean or rude or
outright just bashing the original character or the original actors
that play these characters is just you know, continuing on
their legacy and telling those stories and and and such,
so it's not anything that should be condemned or whatnot.
I think that there's definitely room to bring them in.
Now we're if ah Soca season three is could put
and you know, things on this front do reside on
the success of Mando and grow Goo Ah Okay. Two
ways I'm gonna look at this. The one way I'm
gonna look at this is that, yes, I understand that
from my personal bias, I love the Air of the
Empire trilogy, I love Throng. I think that there's so
much room in that basket to pull from that you
can really create a enriched Star Wars world. On top
of this, being involved with this universe that's pulled from novels,
three books that have been written that create a very
well established story start to finish. Now that residing on
the success of Mando, I don't think that's fair personally,
but from obviously a suit's perspective, yes, it makes sense.
It makes all the sense in the world because of
everything that they've created so far in the sandbox, and
if they're going to continue on this track, because it
still is roughly in that same time period, it does
heavily matter on the fact if Mando does make money
at the box office. Now, I would love it if
they made The Air to the Empire an actual big
screen event, because you're dealing with I mean, in summary
Air of the Empire, you're dealing with Luke Han and
Leah Leia is going to be giving birth to or twins,
she's pregnant, and you're dealing with this cloned Jedi who's
mentally unstable that Throng finds Master Kabbath I think his
name is.
Speaker 1: George that one. Okay, where's the clone of Luke? Is
that in this suits?
Speaker 2: He comes in here too?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they end up cloning him. Kabbath gets him
clone because they find old cloning factories and it does
all these things that have just been pulled from that trilogy,
like the facility on Wayland which is still cloning facility
and stuff like that that you know, bad Batch, that's
where we're going Mount Tantas. They got all these kind
of things involved there, And so when you're dealing with
this the story, it makes sense to give it a
movie because where we're at now though obviously Lena doesn't
have twins, but you're dealing with young Ben Solo. She
could be pregnant with Ben Solo and then you could
be you know, Kabath is trying to get at him
and like I want your kid, Leah, and then all
of a sudden, you know, by the time you get
to the third book, the kids are born and all
that jazz, and I think it would be a great
kind of tie into like here's young Ben Solo, Da
da da. But yeah, I just I think leaving it
up to Mando to kind of give it the green
light based on its success is very unfortunate, because you're
dealing with a story that, in my opinion, is much
better and much more fleshed out and much more well
structured than what they've done with the Mendo Verse, and
so I think that it's just unfortunate to kind of
pivot on that that sense. But Mendo is looking to
me like it's going to be a safe movie. I know,
I bet I made the pizza bet of a billion
dollars a billion. If I'm being a very realistic person
here with my box office approaches that have been I
think fairly accurate as of late, I'd say it's probably
gonna do the five hundred to seven hundred million range.
Speaker 1: Regret that one don't ye pizza. It's gonna be a
big pizza day because family cl was me a pizza
and I said, wait till August. Kirkle knows me a
pizza and then we got our bets. So there's gonna
be pizzas all round on GV Day. So just look,
I might share some, you know, but uh yeah, I don't.
I don't think, because yeah, are you surprised? I guess
you know you. I want to ask you this because
you weren't surprised about Zutopia beating Avatar, But are you
surprised that sounds like it's gonna be stopping about like
one point four, so it's gonna be finish like pretty
much a whole billion under Avatar two?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Utopia too is finishing under Avatar two.
Speaker 1: No I'm saying. I'm saying I knew you weren't surprised
by Avatar maybe underperforming because Utopia beat it, it has
beaten it. But are you surprised that looks like Avatar
is close to a billion under the weirdst one one
two did two point three and this is gonna finish
it like one point three to one point five, So
like that's I'm just rounding up, but roughly a billion under.
Are you surprised by that?
Speaker 2: I'm not really No. I'd have to look at what
I wrote in the discord, but I think it was
just something I would I would reaffirm and double back
with because I think I said something on the lines
like you had that huge year gap, and I think
it's too soon and it's a long movie, all these
different factors, and I don't think people are ready to
just kind of go back into that world, whereas you
have when you stack at against Avatar two. Like I said,
that gap that's huge, and the visuals, the effects, everything.
I think if they waited five to six years and
then threw this movie back out in the box office,
it's beating Avatar too. No problem, I really do. But
I think it just came out way too quick.
Speaker 1: So you think that Avatar four being nine is probably
good idea, like three.
Speaker 2: And that's a very good idea, I think. By it.
By that time and it rolls around, we've had some
Star Wars, we've had some other things, and I think, Okay,
people are gonna be like, yeah, let's let's see what's
going on, or they're going to read the book. I
guess we'll have to wait and see. Yeah, folks of Atar,
that's what James Cameron was saying, Like, if don't get made,
he's gonna what he's gonna do what he's.
Speaker 1: I don't know if its a joke. At one point
he said he would do a press conference to reveal
what happened.
Speaker 2: Like a five hour press conference.
Speaker 1: But no, I agree with you in the sense of
like because I've never read them, but I know the
story beats and the idea of air the Empire, and
like if you if man O War and Gorogu bomb,
I still think a movie with new actors playing Lawn Lawn,
Lukhn and Leaut. I'm not saying it's a billion, but
I think it could be more profitable. And I still
think you could just pluck Thrown from the shows, right,
you don't even have to like say much connection there.
He can even still appear in the shows. And maybe
there's like a smaller thing he has conflict with the
Mando people. But at the same time I could see
them just adopted be like, hey, we've done the Mando story.
Really in the throng, We're gonna make those our characters.
So and I think that can sometimes backfire. I think
that was something that happened with Disneyland, where now it's like, oh,
we're doing the original music and dar Vader. For me,
it wasn't like I wasn't opposed like Kyle Lorn and
the Edge of Galaxy stuff. I just always thought like,
for a while, it's like, why aren't you doing both?
Why here's our new sequel trilogy and then also here's
a lot of og stuff. It doesn't have to be
one of the I just said to you, Yeah, with
Darvader and the OGI music.
Speaker 2: And coming back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But that's what I'm saying is why was that
not always the case? Why there's there Okay, this week
it's Kylo, this week it's Vade, Like it doesn't have
to be either or, and that same thing of like
I get why they're doing that, but like, why does
it have to just be all original trilogy stuff?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Why is it Oh, yeah, this week we're gonna or
this day Monday we played John William's original trilogy stuff
in Vader's out there Tuesday, Kyleo's out there, Like so
that's the idea of like I hate that. I feel
like they might have in their minds like we're gonna
do their empire, but it's gonna be with our characters.
Like to the guys we've created a Soca man. It's
like yeah, sure, but like that could really bite you
in the ass. And that's what we're gonna find out, right,
So that's why it's probably good at that. So maybe
and that would be disappointed man of bombs and they're
like so stubborn where they're like, well, we have to
do We're still doing our empire, but it has to
be with our characters. To me, that's a mistake. So yeah,
we'll see. I'm very curious when we get to because
what that's on May. I'm very curious when we get
to mad that it's gonna be an interesting couple of
weeks to see man Ore and grog because I could
see it overperforming. I could see it under like I'm
not even lying, I could see there being a bomb
situation where it just does not do anywhere near what
they thought. I think man Ol and Grogu could go
and any way under the sun right now. But we'll
be there. We'll be there from all, be there for Mario,
be there for dared to have all that stuff. This
was the last episode, Taylor. Thanks for joining me for
these past couple weeks. Obviously you're gone for a trip
and then you're back to work. But it's fun to
have a guest on in the afternoon. And obviously we'll
be back to this weekly geek and what up. But
it's good to have you a board, sir.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciate it because we're just we've been
watching all those train wreck documentaries on Netflix and uh
you ever see those like train Wreck, Bad Neighbor, train Wreck,
All One Raid and all those the Bad Neighbor one. Yeah,
I was on yesterday. It was fucking crazy. Holy shit,
there's some crazy stuff there. So but it's a nice
break good Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, thanks for joining. I hope you guys all
enjoyed this. Uh yeah, we'll be back whenever. Like I said,
there's sidequest that drops to more. I'll be doing wonder Man.
There'll be lots of patron content throughout the week me
and the Gimmick boys that we're viewing the Rumble this weekend,
and I promise you it'll not be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye.