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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good morning, good morning. Welcome, welcome, welcome. It

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<v Speaker 1>is time now for our community connection. Right here on

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<v Speaker 1>K one, the one you trust. I'm Tom Davis, and

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<v Speaker 1>on the telephone with me we have the Principal Chief

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<v Speaker 1>of Cherokee Nation, Chuck Hoskin, Junior and Chief. Good morning

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Get enough rain over there in your area.

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<v Speaker 2>We have plenty, Tom, plenty, I can assure you a

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<v Speaker 2>good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness, you've been busy, busy, busy, busy, busy.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, sakes building bridges and a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other things. I guess we had you on one of

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<v Speaker 1>our news stories with the Double Creek Bridge project over

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<v Speaker 1>here in Washington County recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a really great project. You know, Washington County,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of counties across northeast Oklahoma, have some

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<v Speaker 2>deficiencies in some of the bridges, and so we worked

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<v Speaker 2>with the county. But we're able to secure one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the funding for this bridge. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was open a million, only one point one million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to replace that bridge at the time. That bridge probably

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<v Speaker 2>outlasts both of us because it's well built, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>good and what I shared at the event WITHDTH Commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>done lap is such a great friend of the Cherokees,

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<v Speaker 2>is that, look, we ought to be bringing dollars home

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<v Speaker 2>for rural infrastructure because if we don't, a real infrastructure

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<v Speaker 2>is going to wither on the bud we can't have that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a great project.

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<v Speaker 1>A federal budget impacts, I think everybody is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just waiting around to see what's going to happen. What's

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<v Speaker 1>happening over there in the Cherokee Nation, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Big, big concerns on two fronts. One is what will

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<v Speaker 2>the budget look like? And the budgets that have been

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<v Speaker 2>proposed are not favorable to a lot of programs that

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<v Speaker 2>I care about, and for that reason, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that I care about. I'm talking about proposed zeroing

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<v Speaker 2>out of h Heat low income heating program. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about bigger numbers, like the entire Department of the Interior

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<v Speaker 2>year has a thirty percent cut. Now, Department Interior is

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<v Speaker 2>our main interface, ours being the tribes with the government

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. Within that, as we're starting to look

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<v Speaker 2>at the budget proposal, it's got some pretty significant cuts

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<v Speaker 2>to bure of anian education. Of course, we run quite

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<v Speaker 2>school on a contract in Burebandian education. It's got cuts

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<v Speaker 2>to public safety programs and everybody knows we've been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to step up public safety, law enforcement, and post MA

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<v Speaker 2>thod era. So that's concerning dropping self governance dollars. Then

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<v Speaker 2>elsewhere in the budget we've got the closure of job Corps.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me if I could just break down two

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<v Speaker 2>things that I think are important for people to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>One is what does the budget look like? And then

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<v Speaker 2>that's a concern to all of us and ultimately Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>Besides that, the President. Besides that, it'll be the result

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<v Speaker 2>of elections, and that's that's how the country works, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it should work. The concern I have, though,

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<v Speaker 2>time is the immediate termination of programs by the executive

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<v Speaker 2>branch of the United States that is causing some chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>In some cases, it's causing a lot of inefficiencies, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the opposite of what it's being billed as,

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<v Speaker 2>which is reducing spending and inefficiencies. Because let's take job

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<v Speaker 2>Core for example, Tom right now young people at Talking Leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>Job Corps were one of about one hundred contractors across

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<v Speaker 2>the United States that operates job Core because the administration

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<v Speaker 2>said we're shutting down job Core. We got kids scrambling,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're scrambling trying to get them home safe. These

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<v Speaker 2>are low income kids. They often face social and economic barriers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the reason they're in job Corp, trying to better

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<v Speaker 2>their life. So I would rather be a debate about

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<v Speaker 2>job Core, debate about public safety dollars, a debate about

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<v Speaker 2>low income heating assistance, and then decide, well, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>budget going to look like instead of what I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>in job Core is a great example of just an

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<v Speaker 2>immediate shut down that catches everybody by surprise and causes

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of inefficiency because I've got staff Tom that

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<v Speaker 2>instead of teaching kids trades or getting their ged, they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get them bus rides home, and that that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a great use of onse.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy. I understand that you had a visit by the

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department touring some of your facilities.

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<v Speaker 2>We did you know the first part of that, since

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<v Speaker 2>Tom is scary got a visit by the Justice Department, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes me that unless you you say the rest

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<v Speaker 2>which you did, which is to talk about travel sovereignty

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<v Speaker 2>to tour our facilities. It was really good because we

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<v Speaker 2>got to meet uh, some career staff that have been

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<v Speaker 2>worked for the Department of Justice and some new appointees.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to tell you, you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of debates in the country about the new administration

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<v Speaker 2>and pros and cons, and I just laid out some

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<v Speaker 2>cons a while ago on a lot of budget things.

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<v Speaker 2>I have found the interaction with some of these political

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<v Speaker 2>appointees and including the principal Deputy Attorney General Emil Bouvet,

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<v Speaker 2>to be good because they're interested, they want to learn more,

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<v Speaker 2>and they came to Cherokenation to learn more about how

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<v Speaker 2>we've scaled up our Marshall Service a prosecutor's office. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing more with rehabilitation than we've done before. All

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<v Speaker 2>that's good, and all of that's an opportunity to show

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<v Speaker 2>what we can do in partnership with the federal government,

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<v Speaker 2>shifting gears. Just a minute at Counselor Patskowski and of

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<v Speaker 2>course you represents the Artisville area. And then we went

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<v Speaker 2>to visit with the Department of Interior officials just yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you go back a month Tom and I

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<v Speaker 2>visited with the Secretary Health and Human Services Robert F.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Junior. So we're getting in front of these new

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<v Speaker 2>officials and trying to show them the good news about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in the Cheroke Nation and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>build some partnerships.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you were talking a little bit about, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the government's budget and everything, and said, Congress the President,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you coming along with this portion of a

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<v Speaker 1>treaty that you had to be fulfilled of getting a

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<v Speaker 1>delegate into.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom. It's slow going. And I think one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first times I ever talked about that was on this

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<v Speaker 2>show in twenty nineteen. That was a younger, more naive

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<v Speaker 2>Chief Hoskin. Now was a younger Tom. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a younger, more naive Tom, but as

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<v Speaker 2>a younger, more naive Chief Hoskin. Because I have learned

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<v Speaker 2>that Washington's even tougher Tom in the last five years

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<v Speaker 2>than I thought, and it has been tough to get

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<v Speaker 2>this delegate seated. But the cause is still righteous. It's

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<v Speaker 2>still a treaty, it's the supreme law of the land.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, let's put it in context. We're in

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<v Speaker 2>the midst of dealing with a lot of budget cuts

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<v Speaker 2>that are hurting, and I just talked about job cort kids,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, low income kids. We're dealing with trying to

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<v Speaker 2>protect low income heating assistance for elders. We're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>public safety issues candidly, and I think people appreciate this.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to make sure those are front burner issues

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<v Speaker 2>because these are immediate concerns of people that the Cherokee

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<v Speaker 2>Nation cares about and communities we care about. The delegate

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<v Speaker 2>issue is still very much on our agenda. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to prioritize things we're doing. And so right now,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm in front of a member of Congress, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about protecting funding for programs that people are relying on.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we'll keep up the fight though. Cherokee delegate

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com is still the website people can go to

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<v Speaker 2>to pitch in their voice.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to remember the removal bike ride that's taking

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<v Speaker 1>place right now. That is quite a deal. This kind

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<v Speaker 1>of grows every year.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It's really remarkable and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>know about it, but people who don't should know that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Trail of Tears eighteen thirty eight to

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen thirty nine was a dark chapter in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States. It was a really difficult and

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<v Speaker 2>tragic chapter in the Cherokee story. But nearly two centuries later,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got young people every year who take that period

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<v Speaker 2>of history. They take it back, and they make it powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>and they make it about hope and promise for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>And they take off on a nearly thousand mile bike

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<v Speaker 2>ride from Nuachoda, Georgia, which tom Knuichoda was our former

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<v Speaker 2>capital before our removal, and they will ride back, and

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<v Speaker 2>I see it every year. Their lives have changed. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only do they go through the physical preparation and the

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<v Speaker 2>physical endurance of a difficult ride, they go through things

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<v Speaker 2>mentally and emotionally that are a lot of growth. And

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<v Speaker 2>I always see these young people years down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Invariably they're doing great and interesting things. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>part of it is because they were part of this

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<v Speaker 2>powerful annual remember the removal ride, and we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>live vicariously through them, So we kind of travel through

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<v Speaker 2>them with them on social media to see them visit

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<v Speaker 2>historic sites where our ancestors were laid to rest, where

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<v Speaker 2>our ancestors were rounded up with stockades, where our ancestors

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<v Speaker 2>looked back to the East Tom seeing their homeland for

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<v Speaker 2>the last time in eighteen thirty eight, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>a right there with them, So it's a great event.

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<v Speaker 2>We wish them a safe journey just recently and will

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<v Speaker 2>welcome them back June to twenty first here in Tahawuah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm going to jump off course here a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I want to encourage folks when you go

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<v Speaker 1>down to Tahiquah. If you go to the museum, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>learn the story of the Cherokee and how they came

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<v Speaker 1>to the eastern part of the United States. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting story, one I wasn't aware of until I

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<v Speaker 1>walked right in and a gentleman explained to me what

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at. I'm like, oh my gosh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you take the progression or sometimes in that case

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<v Speaker 1>with removal a regression, and you get the complete story

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<v Speaker 1>once you're in there. But that is the past that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be remembered. But coming up on Saturday is

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<v Speaker 1>the future of Cherokee Nation. That is the general election.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Cherokee Nation, Tom one of the oldest democracies

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<v Speaker 2>on the planet, and so we're going to exercise democracy

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday. We've got about half of our council seats

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<v Speaker 2>are up for reelection. Staggered election similar to how you

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<v Speaker 2>see the Senate of the United States. Sen at the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Oklahoma operate, so not all the seats are up,

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<v Speaker 2>so not everybody has got a vote to cast, but

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<v Speaker 2>districts two, four, five, seven, nine, ten, eleven, and fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>and one at large seat up. Polls are open seven

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<v Speaker 2>am to seven pm. People can go to Cherokee vote

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<v Speaker 2>dot org and find out a loss of information on

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<v Speaker 2>the election. They can call the Election Commission at nine

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<v Speaker 2>one eight four, five, eight, five, eight nine nine, and

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<v Speaker 2>we make it easy or easier than if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>able to go Saturday, you can come to Tahlequaw today

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<v Speaker 2>to seven pm. Polls are open early vote at the

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<v Speaker 2>Election Commission. Tomorrow open as well, but Saturday is the

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<v Speaker 2>big day. We'll see how it goes. That's democracy and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all for it, sir, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, one other thing, how is the Visitors Center doing

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<v Speaker 1>over there in beneina I Every time I every time

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<v Speaker 1>I pass by there, you got cars, you got people

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and out. I've been in and out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, it's a great facility. And I think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to really have even more interest as we get near

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<v Speaker 2>the one hundred year celebration of Route sixty six. As

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Tom, that is on Route sixty six, just

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<v Speaker 2>off I forty four. We had a lot of international

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<v Speaker 2>travelers any given years since we've been open, and they

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<v Speaker 2>come in their interests. Of course, we get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of national, interstate travelers and within the region travelers. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get a lot as we build up to

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<v Speaker 2>that centennial. It's great, it's going well, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great place to showcase authentic Cherokee art, history and culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, all right, Chief Chruck Hoskin, Junior Principal Chief

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<v Speaker 1>of Cherokee Nation, thank you for being with us today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you, Tom, Well, all right, thank you.
