WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.960 So really it's like what three hundred yards away from 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:03.799 a schooler daycare? 3 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:07.400 Carl, that's pretty Yeah, yeah, it's pretty far. It's far 4 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:09.359 enough legally, it's compliant with a lot. 5 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.279 I find the cold open gimmick really funny. And those 6 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:19.199 who aren't aware it's we have like a normal conversation 7 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:23.760 before that, I just get can't resist putting Carl in 8 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:25.519 a bad position. But how are you doing, man, it's 9 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:26.359 been a while. 10 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.359 Yeah, doing well, doing well? Happy New Year? 11 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:34.200 Yeah, happy New Year as well. It's always good. It's funny. 12 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:38.159 I get two forms of feedback universally tar streams, which 13 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:42.280 is Carl again or alternately, when are you having Carl 14 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:45.920 back on? So I've just decided to disappoint both those people, 15 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:47.159 at least as much as I can. 16 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:50.640 Yeah, the I can't help but notice that the super 17 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:55.320 chats are quite low. So yeah, yeah, they're a revealed 18 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.320 preference versus stated preference. 19 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:01.200 You know, well, honestly, like I, I probably would be 20 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:05.480 a better streamer if I like held out more for 21 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.680 super chats, like not answering questions unless you pay me. 22 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:12.159 You know, I can't, I con be honest, I can't 23 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.879 be bothered if something's funny. Something's funny. So yeah, I 24 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.480 have an allegedly professional podcaster, but you know, getting paid 25 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.920 for it. That's that's kind of gay. 26 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:26.439 There's you know, to be honest, I can sympathize with that. 27 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:28.159 I'm a professional author. 28 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:34.560 Right by book as someone yes, yes, yes, bye book. 29 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:39.920 Actually, the cool thing is, I'm not surprised, but I 30 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:45.760 hear a lot more from people who buy my first book. 31 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.480 And I think it's because it's like two hundred pages 32 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:51.760 versus what is it almost six hundred for the other 33 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.439 So it's a good bit has a lot to do 34 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.359 with that, I think, But no, it's it's uh, it's 35 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:05.879 doing well and it helps allow me the luxury of uh, 36 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.800 you know, hanging out with the right wings first drill 37 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:11.400 rap artist. 38 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.439 I have no idea what you could possibly be referring to. 39 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:25.840 I'm actually I'm very excited, uh actually largely based on 40 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:29.639 Johann Kurzis book, which is very very good. I've I've 41 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:34.719 begun collecting family artifacts and so I have a number 42 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:39.840 one of which I think i've shown you Carl Rock 43 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:47.439 Comedy now. But is this very cool Jesile musket. It's cool. 44 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:48.479 It's a functional one which is. 45 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:49.879 Something that's a family artifact. 46 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:54.039 Yeah. I waving this around because it has quite a 47 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:58.479 lot of highly specific biological biographical information on. 48 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:02.439 It, and bio, we know what you're up. 49 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:06.039 I mean, look, it's pretty cool, man. And if you're 50 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:11.000 wondering the recent Reddit post how to get a you know, 51 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.919 a fourteen centimeter cylinder out of a slightly larger one, well, 52 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:20.360 you know, that's my feature there, but the background I'm 53 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.120 working on, and so I just threw that in there 54 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:24.719 because I think it's funny. It's been in the background 55 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:26.719 of a couple of podcasts and no one's noticed yet. 56 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:30.199 That's awesome, I think is amusing. But I have secured 57 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:35.520 something very cool, which is the family leopard skin. I 58 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:42.120 had a grand great grandfather who did some things with 59 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:46.599 some people after World War two and ended up in 60 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:50.000 you know, Southeast Asia, And as you do, you're like, huh. 61 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:56.680 And also it's like, turns out people have conflicting feelings 62 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.840 about the pelts of large predators. My thought is like, 63 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.879 this thing's been dead for like ninety years, Like, oh yeah, 64 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.039 having it in my house isn't going to kill it again. 65 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:06.400 You're honoring it. 66 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.840 Yeah, exactly, And it's just rad because it's got supers 67 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:14.159 poked through it. But point is, I am probably going 68 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.360 to construct in the background, like the hang the leopard 69 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:19.439 pelt on the wall, put the musket on it, because 70 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:21.480 I guess that's just kind of cool. So anyway, the 71 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:23.519 point is I am going to you know, use my 72 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.839 family artifact, which is what Johen Kurve's uh, you know recommended, right, 73 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:30.199 you know, keep hold of those things, and you know 74 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:33.120 that makes some you use it to benefit my work, 75 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.480 right because honestly, like literally, what do you do with 76 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.399 a leopard skin, you know, short of of like Alexander 77 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:42.759 the Great and wearing it, uh in public? It's sort 78 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:43.639 of an unwieldy thing. 79 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:50.800 Being a fellow apple Achian Scott's Irishmen descendant, I think 80 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:56.000 you need a aged tomahawk that the you know, rendered vintage. 81 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.920 And I would be happy to collaborate with that because 82 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:00.199 I have some experience with that. 83 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.240 So honestly, that sounds a lot of fun. And weirdly enough, 84 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.480 I know many people who are actually not weirdly enough 85 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.360 look like you people know what I am. I know 86 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.360 quite a lot of people who are into into blacksmithing, 87 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.959 which kind of comes with the Derek that's a good idea. 88 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.519 Point is I've been watching all of these what I 89 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.120 consider you know, like the seven thousand Dollars Club as 90 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.399 they're called, right, and they have cool studios. Or you 91 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:26.680 can go Glenn Beck and you know, act like you're 92 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:28.639 a super villain and like a James Bond movie and 93 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:31.879 just have this like multimillion dollar all white, you know, 94 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:36.079 like cyberpunk constrosity. And while I can't match that again 95 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:38.360 you stendity people are not sending me the kind of 96 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:42.680 super chats for my like meglomania cult desires here. But 97 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:49.560 the point is sex Freakment twenty twenty six rebrand gonna 98 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.959 be wild drill wrapper with a musket and a leopard skin. 99 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.000 So it's kind of the plan. There's a great fortune 100 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:58.800 greed text about I think the additional question is, like, 101 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.600 you know, is a smooth four musket the ideal weapon 102 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.160 for a crime? You know, no shell casings, no rifling 103 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.120 on the bullet. And of course the entire threat is 104 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.240 just guys talking about doing drive buys with like you know, 105 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:16.000 tri corner. Yes, and a lot of three. 106 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:16.040 Wounds from the bayonets. 107 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:21.160 Yeah, yes, holding look sex frequent holding the musket sideways 108 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.399 quite literally has no impact on accuracy. 109 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.319 It's true, It's true, you know, it's it's funny. I 110 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:32.800 can also teach you some sometimes we just call it 111 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:36.920 hatchet but tomahawk fighting stuff. It's it's kind of what 112 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:41.680 you would expect, but giving your grappling experience, like, I 113 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:43.800 think you would pick it up very quickly because there's 114 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:48.000 a lot of like limb control type of stuff involved 115 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.920 in it. It's pretty pretty great sense. 116 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:56.920 Yeah, I mean, look, I have have long gone by 117 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.000 the reason I carry a gun is because I'm continuing 118 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:06.920 reminded how bad I am at fighting otherwise. Yeah, the 119 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:10.680 but in point point being, yeah, I'm gonna be you know, 120 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:13.439 collecting items to sort of make this, you know, scene 121 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.399 look better. Because there was some posts going around talking 122 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.680 about the proliferation of you know, young male right wing 123 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.399 podcasters who you know, all broadcast from beige rooms, and 124 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:26.360 the poster was saying, I wonder if they're all in 125 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:29.800 some server farm somewhere, right, it's just like identical cubicles. 126 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.720 And I can assure you that it's not the case, 127 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:34.959 at least in my instance. But yeah, fair enough, the 128 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.639 beige room is it's a little grim, so hopefully we'll 129 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.319 make it a little better. But that's actually not the 130 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.279 purpose of this stream merely to you know, talk about 131 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:47.800 my home redecoration projects. But it's to talk about, as 132 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.839 you know, someone once said, the late unpleasantness, right, the 133 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:55.399 kind of uproar surrounding ice and uh, you know, the 134 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.839 shooting of this woman, Renee Good. I was on ur 135 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:02.160 un obviously to discus after the second video dropped where 136 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:05.079 she basically, you know, bounced this Ice agent off the hood. 137 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:09.639 Several things I want to discuss there. One, I want 138 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.560 to kind of reiterate the points that I made on 139 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:17.879 Orange Show, which is effectively lunatic progressive rhetoric got this 140 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:18.560 woman killed. 141 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:19.120 Yeah. 142 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.160 In one of the other videos that's been going around 143 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:25.319 has been you know repeat. It's different situations but very 144 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.879 similar where people are saying like, oh, you can't arrest me, 145 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:30.920 you're not a cop, and it's like, well that's not true. 146 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.240 They can. They will. Also they have guns, so like 147 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.960 the legality of that is sort of indeterminate in the moment. 148 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.320 Yes, they're much larger than you and they have shiny badges. 149 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:46.000 Yeah, and there's like twenty of them, so like, regardless 150 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.080 of the legality of that like, hey, maybe you know, 151 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.120 shut up and fight it in court, even from you know, 152 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.639 their perspective. But additionally, right, all of the rhetoric that's 153 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:58.679 been going on for what I mean over ten years 154 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:02.559 now about you know, fighting fascism, right, the threat start democracy, 155 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:06.080 this very existential language which is driving people to the 156 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.480 breaking point. Right. We've seen a number of these more 157 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:12.039 violent attacks a year ago with the anti Elon, anti 158 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:16.679 anti Tesla riots, the kind of series of ambushes on 159 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:22.080 DHS personnel, and honestly, like this will continue to happen, right, 160 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:23.919 there's a desire to kind of spin this woman up 161 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.679 into a martyr. I think that the you know, the 162 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.399 the George Foyd rte, the idea that she would become 163 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:34.799 sort of a rallying point for George Floyd season of riots. Yeah, 164 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.559 I think that has probably petered out. 165 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:40.039 I don't know, it's not happening that this does not 166 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:43.919 get the the violent pets riled up. 167 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:49.840 Yeah, exactly. And on that point, a lot of the 168 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:54.840 discourse has shifted to the reaction, right, should you you 169 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.519 celebrate the you know the death of an enemy And 170 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.879 you know, I I have sort of in the conflicted 171 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:03.840 feelings on the matter. You know, on one hand, I 172 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.440 feel like it is somewhat poor form. It's just not 173 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:10.120 something to be done, especially in public. But also man like, 174 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:14.159 this is what politics has become. And you know, after Kirk, 175 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.120 after all the stuff that happened to Trump, after events 176 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.080 that have happened, you know, well before that, you know, 177 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:23.799 even Dicky Spencer getting cold cocked like this isn't new. 178 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:27.240 And you know, this is the the Republican's pounce phenomenon, 179 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:29.279 which we've been aware of for quite some time. The 180 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:33.480 same story or will be reported on drastically differently depending 181 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.559 on who is you know, the who is the instigator? Right, 182 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:42.000 the way that meme of Republicans pounce is on any 183 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:45.159 sort of scandal, right, if it's you know, Republican or Conservative, 184 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.200 it is reported as a scandal, whereas if the roles 185 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.200 are reversed, it becomes Republicans are overreacting to this thing, 186 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:53.080 aren't they gross? 187 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:53.240 Right? 188 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.279 And we understand this, and I think that that's a 189 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:57.519 certain amount of what's happening as well. You know, even 190 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:01.600 people I consider friends have been, you know, decrying the 191 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.759 sort of celebration of this woman's death. And I kind 192 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:06.519 of get it. I mean, Ultimately, I think that you're 193 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:10.639 sort of, you know, struggling to find a polite phrase 194 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:14.039 for this beer waste. Yeah, yeah, and you're you're sort 195 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:16.600 of wasting your time trying to tone police the Internet. 196 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:21.039 You simply can't. And so it's partially why I haven't engaged, 197 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.320 because one, it's like, you know, I can control what 198 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:25.919 I do, but the moment you sort of step in 199 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.960 and say, boys, boys, you can't do that. Yeah, you're 200 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.080 basically the hall monitor of the Internet, which is just 201 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:33.840 kind of flame and embarrassing. And I think that again, 202 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.080 there is a real problem with the sort of consenting 203 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.679 to the moral frame of your enemies, right, and very 204 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:42.240 clearly they are trying to paint this woman as a victim, right. 205 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.440 We hear this, you know, repeated refrain, you know, a 206 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.960 mother of three unarmed you know, in sort of the 207 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:48.919 same way that you you know, you heard those sort 208 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.919 of terms swirling around and figures like George Floyd Floyd. Wow, 209 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.080 I can't even say his name correctly now. The meme 210 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.000 is so thoroughly worked into my brain or Trayvon Martin, 211 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:00.879 and that is, you know, a feature of narrative control, 212 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.639 right when you have you know that when you have 213 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.120 the press by the short hairs, you can make them 214 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.039 or let's be honest, I even make them. They will 215 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.320 do it for you, right, repeat your talking points. But 216 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:15.279 I think that that while that bears mentioning, the thing 217 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.200 that I want to pivot to, Carl, this is something 218 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.600 you and I have been talking about for quite some time, right, 219 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.519 both you know, going back to the ambushes on ice agents, 220 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.080 but also write that article you and I went over 221 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:30.039 from from Wired magazine, right that this sort of political 222 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:33.519 violence is brewing, and very clearly, you know, this woman 223 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.240 was a victim of that meme complex, right, She's a 224 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.159 victim of you know, this narrative that you can basically 225 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.720 do whatever you want and you will face no consequences 226 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:46.279 for it. Yeah, and they're cynically using her death as 227 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.759 a way to get more people riled up, more people 228 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:54.360 involved in these dangerous protests. And a lot of the libertarians, 229 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.440 of course, as you can imagine, are you know, very 230 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:59.799 anti state. You know, they're saying like, oh, they would 231 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:02.799 just happily do this to you or anyone else, And 232 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.879 that analysis is incomplete because look like government goons are 233 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:12.240 government goons. Yeah, but also not all government goons are 234 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:17.080 on the same team, right ice is right coded certainly now, 235 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:19.200 you know, I'm sure you've seen Carl the video of 236 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.480 the guy saying, they pay me two hundred thousand a 237 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.360 year and I'd still do this for free. 238 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:23.960 Yeah. 239 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.480 But also like even during the Biden admin, you know, 240 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:29.600 when they were not unleashed as they currently are, there 241 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:33.080 were struggles between them and the administration, whereas the FBI, 242 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:38.320 the ATF, organizations like that are very much not right 243 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:41.240 wing aligned or right wing coded. And so again, right 244 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:43.519 this doesn't mean like the government is your friend, but 245 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.759 the idea that there's just a goon faction, which now 246 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.799 that I've said is perhaps a poor choice of words, 247 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:51.240 that there is like the government, it's just one. 248 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:55.000 Monologne fact Yeah, exactly, it's factional. Which is why I 249 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:58.879 use the term and the titles of both of my 250 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:02.759 books is the world is factional. Government is factional. It's 251 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:07.240 not a monolith. There is a uniparty, but there are 252 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.559 factions within that uniparty that play nice with them, and 253 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:15.559 quite often there are schisms. And we're in a schism 254 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.480 period where we're in the trailing end of a schism 255 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:23.720 period that frankly broke wide open after October seventh, twenty 256 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:30.799 twenty three. And this is a armed faction with power 257 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:37.519 that's chud write coated, that is loyal to Trump and 258 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:42.480 goon faction shirts dropping. That's a great idea, Jay, should 259 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:43.840 you should do that? 260 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.279 Yeah? I have great ideas for merch. The follow through 261 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:50.519 is always the issue. But to me, I sort of 262 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.240 see this as inevitable. And it was very clear that 263 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:56.519 they've fished for an instance like this for over a 264 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:59.840 year now. You know, there were there were some leaked 265 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:03.600 in Eternal memos basically talking about exactly this right the fact, 266 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:05.559 and we've known this going all through kind of the 267 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.759 peak Antifa years of you know, COVID and a little before, 268 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.840 Like I'm sure you remember in the Pacific Northwest, what 269 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:16.240 was the group of moms that wore those yellow jackets? 270 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:17.120 What were they called again? 271 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:23.600 Oh god? Yeah, they're basically the ones that run between 272 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.919 the police and Antifa after and this is a this 273 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:33.000 is an Antifa tactic. Someone runs in front into the cops, 274 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.039 hits them in the head or throws a Molotov cocktail 275 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.080 and then runs back into the crowd, and the innocent 276 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:44.159 moms become the physical shield for them that the chuds 277 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.960 then have to plow through to get the target so 278 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:50.720 that they can have footage of like sixty year old 279 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:55.559 retards getting flattened. And because their idea is that that 280 00:15:55.639 --> 00:16:00.679 stirs up you know, the sympathies of morons, and you 281 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:05.000 know which it does. But they're completely disposable and it 282 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:10.919 is literally their way of making up for their whiteness. 283 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.519 This is that this is the mentality that they've internalized. 284 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.000 Well, right, and you know, with that comes one. This 285 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:23.399 is a deliberate tactic and obviously in every instantiation, I'm 286 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:25.519 not trying to say Renay good was was in on it, 287 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.720 but very clearly there is a desire to inject and 288 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:33.600 to kind of profit off of these politically or narratively 289 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.440 useful sort of memetic images or events. Uh, either this 290 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.320 idea to create an iconic image or create a person 291 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.080 from which you can sort of derive a narrative. 292 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:43.519 Right. 293 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:46.360 We've seen this over and over again, and a lot 294 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:49.600 of the analysis people talking about like, oh, you know 295 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.720 this isn't playing well, you know, this is looking bad 296 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:57.200 to kind of Joe Normy. It is actually true, right, 297 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.759 it seems to be, you know, according to my fairly 298 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:05.680 scant research that you currently ice is unpopular. But look 299 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.480 like we're all good elite theorists here, we all understand 300 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:14.079 that one popular sentiment is very fickle. And also if 301 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:18.200 you were a slave to popular sentiment, ultimately you're never 302 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.000 going to get anything done. Yeah, because the same sort 303 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.559 of you know, pressures that we identify with people when 304 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:27.119 they go to college like this hits population writ large. 305 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.799 And so to me, the idea that you know, this 306 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.160 is horrible. You know, the optics are bad. We can't 307 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.839 be doing this anymore. We should be very nice and 308 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.599 kind of you know, use kid gloves with us. It's like, well, 309 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:40.480 look like that's true. If your primary objective is to 310 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:45.559 be in the current immediately popular, that's true. But ultimately 311 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:49.680 that's not the game. And fundamentally right, the game is 312 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:55.160 they are trying to demographically transform the nation or their 313 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:58.920 own political ends. You are trying to stop that. You're 314 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:01.799 trying to the bleed and you know, push things back 315 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:05.519 in the other direction. And so really, for like the 316 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:09.240 nominal right in America, this is actually existential. You will 317 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.240 not be allowed to do what you want to do. 318 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.680 You will not be allowed access to power if you 319 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:18.480 don't succeed in this and so sure popularity, you know, 320 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.200 mass appeal is a is a relevant factor, but compared 321 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:25.640 to what and so to me again, I see that 322 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:30.079 as in an immediate sense, perhaps true, but ultimately a 323 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.039 very shortsighted analysis of this current situation if you see 324 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:34.960 what I'm getting at, Carl. 325 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.720 Yeah, And you know, the thing with polling is that 326 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:43.519 you can shape and publish whatever you want to get 327 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.440 the outcome that you want. It has very little It 328 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.880 can be tailored very easily to have a little to 329 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.880 do with reality. I really don't believe that most people 330 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.799 really care that. You know, someone asks is it bad 331 00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:59.920 when bad things happen? And you're like, sure, you know 332 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.519 that that's really the level of what we're dealing with 333 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:07.119 her here. Do you think the average person has watched 334 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.799 all of the footage to know exactly what was going 335 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:12.440 on and has been informed about these things? Everyone who 336 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:17.279 has is like, you know, either f this individual or 337 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:22.920 you know, they have an ideological reason to say no, 338 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:26.000 this is horrible. And the truth of it is is 339 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:28.920 these people don't a lot of these people don't know 340 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.799 what they're doing. They're they're they're in this like Star 341 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:35.599 Wars fantasy where because they haven't been punched in the face, 342 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.279 and as people who've been punched in the face, you 343 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:40.359 and I are like, oh, if I get in front 344 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:46.000 of big man with shiny badge and legal authority or 345 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.640 just big man period who's doing thing, there's a very 346 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.720 good chance that I could get punched in the face. 347 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:54.920 There's a very good chance if I get in front 348 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.960 of armed man and do thing that could kill armed man, 349 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.920 that he might kill me. Like it's really quite simple. 350 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:10.920 And these you know, media addicts in their cozy little lives, 351 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.599 just they they can't fathom that that's real. They will 352 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.319 just they will simply wow, just wow. Where while the 353 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:21.839 people who are encouraging them to put their bodies on 354 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.880 the line, which is their terminology, and die for this cause, 355 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.720 like to sacrifice themselves on the altar of white erasure, 356 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:34.599 like they want this to happen. They want them dead. 357 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.839 And it isn't just it's because they're white and because 358 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:42.960 it'll get an outcome that they want. 359 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:48.240 Oh one hundred and even setting aside the moral legitimacy 360 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:53.039 or necessity of ice, which is a separate discussion, you 361 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.640 are interacting with someone who has is a part of 362 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:59.640 the state's monopoly on violence. They are allowed to do 363 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.480 things that you are not, regardless of how you feel 364 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:05.559 about that, and the same way that it is in 365 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:08.359 your best interest to you know, interact with even just 366 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:10.880 local law enforcement in a certain way. You have to 367 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:16.039 understand that, like, effectively, their purpose for existence is violence. 368 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:17.839 Like we church it up, we dress it up a 369 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:22.480 little bit, but like that is the function of the state. Violence, yeah, externally, internally, 370 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:27.920 and so when you're interacting with that again, like you 371 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:32.279 kind of have to understand the variables here. Right, It's 372 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.599 not like a death squad, Right, It's not like gene 373 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:36.599 Row where they're walking around and you know, head to 374 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:40.079 toe rmer with an MG thirty four just mowing down communists. Like, 375 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:43.200 there is a number of decisions you can make, I 376 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:46.000 know in Chilla, but there is a you know, a 377 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:48.640 number of decisions you can make. You know, there's certain 378 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.319 things in your control, some of which will result in 379 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.759 you being shot and killed or roughed up or sent 380 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:57.680 to jail, completely sidestepping the issue of how you feel 381 00:21:57.680 --> 00:21:59.000 about that or legitimacy. 382 00:21:59.440 --> 00:21:59.559 Right. 383 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:02.119 This is also the same conversation that we get into, 384 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:04.079 you know, every three or four years, when you know 385 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:07.480 some aspiring astrophysicist, is you know, shuffled off this mortal 386 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.759 coil again, like, regardless of your feeling about the police, like, 387 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:13.359 if you do certain things, they will respond in a 388 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:17.680 certain way. Yeah, and again right, Like I'm someone who 389 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.960 honestly I support ICE per se, but like I think 390 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.279 that immigration restriction and deportations are sorely needed. 391 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:27.480 I support ICE for the record, I've. 392 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.079 Got that, and I think I just hate Christy No. 393 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.039 Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. 394 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:34.880 Our guys out there, I mean there's probably half a 395 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.440 dozen of them listening now at godspeedfellas as far as 396 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:42.279 I'm concerned. But point is right, Like, your feelings on 397 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:45.920 the matter don't change the actual material reality of what 398 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.319 you're going up against. And look, Carl, I think we're 399 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.000 both in the same camp of being sort of darkly 400 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:54.759 fascinated by police body cam footage. Is that correct? 401 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.799