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Speaker 1: I find the cold open gimmick really funny. And those

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who aren't aware it's we have like a normal conversation

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before that, I just get can't resist putting Carl in

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a bad position. But how are you doing, man, it's

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been a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, doing well, doing well? Happy New Year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, happy New Year as well. It's always good. It's funny.

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I get two forms of feedback universally tar streams, which

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is Carl again or alternately, when are you having Carl

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back on? So I've just decided to disappoint both those people,

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at least as much as I can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the I can't help but notice that the super

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chats are quite low. So yeah, yeah, they're a revealed

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preference versus stated preference.

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a better streamer if I like held out more for

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super chats, like not answering questions unless you pay me.

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be bothered if something's funny. Something's funny. So yeah, I

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have an allegedly professional podcaster, but you know, getting paid

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for it. That's that's kind of gay.

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hear a lot more from people who buy my first book.

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with that, I think, But no, it's it's uh, it's

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doing well and it helps allow me the luxury of uh,

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you know, hanging out with the right wings first drill

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rap artist.

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Johann Kurzis book, which is very very good. I've I've

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one of which I think i've shown you Carl Rock

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Comedy now. But is this very cool Jesile musket. It's cool.

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lot of highly specific biological biographical information on.

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wondering the recent Reddit post how to get a you know,

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you know, that's my feature there, but the background I'm

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working on, and so I just threw that in there

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of a couple of podcasts and no one's noticed yet.

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That's awesome, I think is amusing. But I have secured

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something very cool, which is the family leopard skin. I

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some people after World War two and ended up in

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you know, Southeast Asia, And as you do, you're like, huh.

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this thing's been dead for like ninety years, Like, oh yeah,

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having it in my house isn't going to kill it again.

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poked through it. But point is, I am probably going

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they're called, right, and they have cool studios. Or you

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super chats for my like meglomania cult desires here. But

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for a crime? You know, no shell casings, no rifling

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hatchet but tomahawk fighting stuff. It's it's kind of what

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the reason I carry a gun is because I'm continuing

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collecting items to sort of make this, you know, scene

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look better. Because there was some posts going around talking

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podcasters who you know, all broadcast from beige rooms, and

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some server farm somewhere, right, it's just like identical cubicles.

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at least in my instance. But yeah, fair enough, the

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purpose of this stream merely to you know, talk about

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my home redecoration projects. But it's to talk about, as

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you know, someone once said, the late unpleasantness, right, the

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kind of uproar surrounding ice and uh, you know, the

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shooting of this woman, Renee Good. I was on ur

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un obviously to discus after the second video dropped where

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similar where people are saying like, oh, you can't arrest me,

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you're not a cop, and it's like, well that's not true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's like twenty of them, so like, regardless

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of the legality of that like, hey, maybe you know,

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shut up and fight it in court, even from you know,

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their perspective. But additionally, right, all of the rhetoric that's

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now about you know, fighting fascism, right, the threat start democracy,

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this very existential language which is driving people to the

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breaking point. Right. We've seen a number of these more

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violent attacks a year ago with the anti Elon, anti

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DHS personnel, and honestly, like this will continue to happen, right,

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there's a desire to kind of spin this woman up

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into a martyr. I think that the you know, the

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the George Foyd rte, the idea that she would become

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sort of a rallying point for George Floyd season of riots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And on that point, a lot of the

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discourse has shifted to the reaction, right, should you you

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celebrate the you know the death of an enemy And

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you know, I I have sort of in the conflicted

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feelings on the matter. You know, on one hand, I

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feel like it is somewhat poor form. It's just not

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something to be done, especially in public. But also man like,

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this is what politics has become. And you know, after Kirk,

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after all the stuff that happened to Trump, after events

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which we've been aware of for quite some time. The

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same story or will be reported on drastically differently depending

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on who is you know, the who is the instigator? Right,

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the way that meme of Republicans pounce is on any

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sort of scandal, right, if it's you know, Republican or Conservative,

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it is reported as a scandal, whereas if the roles

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aren't they gross?

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Speaker 1: And we understand this, and I think that that's a

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certain amount of what's happening as well. You know, even

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people I consider friends have been, you know, decrying the

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sort of celebration of this woman's death. And I kind

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of get it. I mean, Ultimately, I think that you're

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sort of, you know, struggling to find a polite phrase

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for this beer waste. Yeah, yeah, and you're you're sort

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of wasting your time trying to tone police the Internet.

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basically the hall monitor of the Internet, which is just

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kind of flame and embarrassing. And I think that again,

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there is a real problem with the sort of consenting

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to the moral frame of your enemies, right, and very

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clearly they are trying to paint this woman as a victim, right.

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mother of three unarmed you know, in sort of the

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I can't even say his name correctly now. The meme

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and that is, you know, a feature of narrative control,

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right when you have you know that when you have

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the press by the short hairs, you can make them

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do it for you, right, repeat your talking points. But

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that I want to pivot to, Carl, this is something

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you and I have been talking about for quite some time, right,

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both you know, going back to the ambushes on ice agents,

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but also write that article you and I went over

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from from Wired magazine, right that this sort of political

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violence is brewing, and very clearly, you know, this woman

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was a victim of that meme complex, right, She's a

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victim of you know, this narrative that you can basically

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do whatever you want and you will face no consequences

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for it. Yeah, and they're cynically using her death as

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a way to get more people riled up, more people

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of course, as you can imagine, are you know, very

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anti state. You know, they're saying like, oh, they would

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on the same team, right ice is right coded certainly now,

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you know, I'm sure you've seen Carl the video of

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the guy saying, they pay me two hundred thousand a

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year and I'd still do this for free.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But also like even during the Biden admin, you know,

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when they were not unleashed as they currently are, there

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were struggles between them and the administration, whereas the FBI,

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the ATF, organizations like that are very much not right

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wing aligned or right wing coded. And so again, right

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this doesn't mean like the government is your friend, but

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the idea that there's just a goon faction, which now

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that I've said is perhaps a poor choice of words,

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that there is like the government, it's just one.

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Speaker 2: Monologne fact Yeah, exactly, it's factional. Which is why I

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use the term and the titles of both of my

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books is the world is factional. Government is factional. It's

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not a monolith. There is a uniparty, but there are

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factions within that uniparty that play nice with them, and

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quite often there are schisms. And we're in a schism

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period where we're in the trailing end of a schism

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period that frankly broke wide open after October seventh, twenty

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twenty three. And this is a armed faction with power

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that's chud write coated, that is loyal to Trump and

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goon faction shirts dropping. That's a great idea, Jay, should

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you should do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I have great ideas for merch. The follow through

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is always the issue. But to me, I sort of

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see this as inevitable. And it was very clear that

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they've fished for an instance like this for over a

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year now. You know, there were there were some leaked

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in Eternal memos basically talking about exactly this right the fact,

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and we've known this going all through kind of the

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peak Antifa years of you know, COVID and a little before,

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Like I'm sure you remember in the Pacific Northwest, what

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was the group of moms that wore those yellow jackets?

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Speaker 2: Oh god? Yeah, they're basically the ones that run between

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the police and Antifa after and this is a this

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is an Antifa tactic. Someone runs in front into the cops,

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hits them in the head or throws a Molotov cocktail

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and then runs back into the crowd, and the innocent

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moms become the physical shield for them that the chuds

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then have to plow through to get the target so

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that they can have footage of like sixty year old

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retards getting flattened. And because their idea is that that

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stirs up you know, the sympathies of morons, and you

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know which it does. But they're completely disposable and it

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is literally their way of making up for their whiteness.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, and you know, with that comes one. This

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is a deliberate tactic and obviously in every instantiation, I'm

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not trying to say Renay good was was in on it,

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but very clearly there is a desire to inject and

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to kind of profit off of these politically or narratively

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useful sort of memetic images or events. Uh, either this

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idea to create an iconic image or create a person

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from which you can sort of derive a narrative.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We've seen this over and over again, and a lot

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of the analysis people talking about like, oh, you know

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this isn't playing well, you know, this is looking bad

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to kind of Joe Normy. It is actually true, right,

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it seems to be, you know, according to my fairly

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scant research that you currently ice is unpopular. But look

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like we're all good elite theorists here, we all understand

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that one popular sentiment is very fickle. And also if

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you were a slave to popular sentiment, ultimately you're never

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going to get anything done. Yeah, because the same sort

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of you know, pressures that we identify with people when

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they go to college like this hits population writ large.

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And so to me, the idea that you know, this

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is horrible. You know, the optics are bad. We can't

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be doing this anymore. We should be very nice and

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kind of you know, use kid gloves with us. It's like, well,

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look like that's true. If your primary objective is to

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be in the current immediately popular, that's true. But ultimately

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that's not the game. And fundamentally right, the game is

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they are trying to demographically transform the nation or their

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own political ends. You are trying to stop that. You're

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trying to the bleed and you know, push things back

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in the other direction. And so really, for like the

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nominal right in America, this is actually existential. You will

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not be allowed to do what you want to do.

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You will not be allowed access to power if you

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don't succeed in this and so sure popularity, you know,

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mass appeal is a is a relevant factor, but compared

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to what and so to me again, I see that

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as in an immediate sense, perhaps true, but ultimately a

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very shortsighted analysis of this current situation if you see

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what I'm getting at, Carl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, the thing with polling is that

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you can shape and publish whatever you want to get

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the outcome that you want. It has very little It

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can be tailored very easily to have a little to

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do with reality. I really don't believe that most people

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really care that. You know, someone asks is it bad

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when bad things happen? And you're like, sure, you know

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that that's really the level of what we're dealing with

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her here. Do you think the average person has watched

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all of the footage to know exactly what was going

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on and has been informed about these things? Everyone who

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has is like, you know, either f this individual or

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you know, they have an ideological reason to say no,

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this is horrible. And the truth of it is is

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these people don't a lot of these people don't know

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what they're doing. They're they're they're in this like Star

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Wars fantasy where because they haven't been punched in the face,

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and as people who've been punched in the face, you

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and I are like, oh, if I get in front

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of big man with shiny badge and legal authority or

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just big man period who's doing thing, there's a very

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good chance that I could get punched in the face.

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There's a very good chance if I get in front

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of armed man and do thing that could kill armed man,

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that he might kill me. Like it's really quite simple.

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And these you know, media addicts in their cozy little lives,

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just they they can't fathom that that's real. They will

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just they will simply wow, just wow. Where while the

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people who are encouraging them to put their bodies on

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the line, which is their terminology, and die for this cause,

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like to sacrifice themselves on the altar of white erasure,

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like they want this to happen. They want them dead.

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it'll get an outcome that they want.

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Speaker 1: Oh one hundred and even setting aside the moral legitimacy

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or necessity of ice, which is a separate discussion, you

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are interacting with someone who has is a part of

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the state's monopoly on violence. They are allowed to do

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things that you are not, regardless of how you feel

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about that, and the same way that it is in

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your best interest to you know, interact with even just

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local law enforcement in a certain way. You have to

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understand that, like, effectively, their purpose for existence is violence.

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Like we church it up, we dress it up a

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little bit, but like that is the function of the state. Violence, yeah, externally, internally,

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and so when you're interacting with that again, like you

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kind of have to understand the variables here. Right, It's

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not like a death squad, Right, It's not like gene

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Row where they're walking around and you know, head to

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toe rmer with an MG thirty four just mowing down communists. Like,

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there is a number of decisions you can make, I

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know in Chilla, but there is a you know, a

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number of decisions you can make. You know, there's certain

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things in your control, some of which will result in

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you being shot and killed or roughed up or sent

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to jail, completely sidestepping the issue of how you feel

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about that or legitimacy.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is also the same conversation that we get into,

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you know, every three or four years, when you know

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some aspiring astrophysicist, is you know, shuffled off this mortal

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coil again, like, regardless of your feeling about the police, like,

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if you do certain things, they will respond in a

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certain way. Yeah, and again right, Like I'm someone who

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honestly I support ICE per se, but like I think

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that immigration restriction and deportations are sorely needed.

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Speaker 2: I support ICE for the record, I've.

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Speaker 1: Got that, and I think I just hate Christy No.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Our guys out there, I mean there's probably half a

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dozen of them listening now at godspeedfellas as far as

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I'm concerned. But point is right, Like, your feelings on

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the matter don't change the actual material reality of what

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you're going up against. And look, Carl, I think we're

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both in the same camp of being sort of darkly

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fascinated by police body cam footage. Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, it's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's genuinely fascinating. The comment section is wild. You

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will learn a lot of new things you go to

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the police activity comments section. I highly recommend it because boys,

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the guys who are running that channel are trying to

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keep it uh, trying to keep it professional, and it's

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not working, right, it's not working at all. And this

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will be like you know, seventy two year old like

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retired electricians with their first, middle last name and a

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photo of them and like a.

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Speaker 2: Dog, Yeah, exactly, like red gook.

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Speaker 1: Around its eyes and they're just like, hang them all,

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Hang them all, signed darryl.

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Speaker 2: Uh With with their home address and phone number.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the channel is police activity, but there are there

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are dozens, right, dozens of you know, alternatives. But point is,

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you're sorry, camera unfocused, You're you're no doubt aware of

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the whole sub genres. Right there, you start to pick

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up on patterns. Right, there's like, you know, there's a

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whole lot of the ones that are domestic disputes or

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you know, like hostage situation, bank robberies. But one of

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the other genres is effectively attempted vehicular man or vehicular homicide. Right,

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it's a traffic stop that goes wrong, try and you know,

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ram the officers, and generally these end in lets, to

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be honest, mostly one way. It's just kind of how

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we get there. But that is and in all these

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situations generally considered to be an attempted murder. Right, you've

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got a four thousand pound missile that you're trying to

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crush someone with. In the response to this, for example,

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they were posting a really tragic bodycam footage of this,

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you know, one hundred and ten pound female police officer

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in a traffic stop and a cul de sac and

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the guy backs into her right, he smashes her into

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the car behind her, and even at low speeds, she

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unfortunately passed away. Setting aside whether she should have been

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a police officer to begin with, she was killed right

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in such a similar instance, and so setting everything all

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to the side merely on that like, is this a

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justified situation in that kind of narrow lens. It's like, well,

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if it isn't, we have a major problem because this

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happens fairly oft right. Obviously a lot of police incidents

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involved motor vehicles that the leap to I'm going to

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hit you with my car or ram you to try

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and get out of this situation, while not a good decision,

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is yeah, you could see the flow of that logic, right, like,

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this is something that is pretty well established, and you know,

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especially when you know, as I indicated earlier, we have

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a video of this guy basically bouncing off the hood

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of her car. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, man, it's

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one of those things where it's like my sympathy is limited,

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and I don't think this is a real discussion. This

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isn't a real forensic debate. It is effectively emotional. It

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is you know, I don't like this. I do like this,

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and this serves my narrative. So it will be you know,

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it will be broadcasted. And I'm curious, Carl, what you

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make of the kind of saber rattling Uh, the sort

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of saber rattling around basically secession, right, you know the

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idea that you know, Wallas is going to call in

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the National Guard to you know, kick Ice out of

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the city. Well, I don't necessarily think that's fully sincere. Uh.

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It is an interesting it is an interesting dynamic there

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that you know, apparently this this fault line is being

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exploited even up at the government level. Dude, I'm gonna

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stay on so I'll be able to hear you, but

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I gotta go grab a glass of water. I'll be back.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, all right, I will, I will, I will

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run with this. So in some it's highly performative signaling.

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I agree Dylan Walker. First name, last name, social security number,

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last four. You know that the biggest thing in politics

470
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:50,920
is is always you give us rules that we're going

471
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,920
to ignore. Yes, I do, look at the chat hh

472
00:26:55,799 --> 00:27:02,039
and hello my friend. And you know, the the the people,

473
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,640
the people who are being paid the patrons have to

474
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,559
represent for their clients like it, which unfortunately the right

475
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:13,759
wing does a very poor job of doing, and the

476
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:16,039
left is good at it. Is that we basically say,

477
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:20,559
there are rules that exist that come from the state,

478
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:24,480
and we will be selective in how we uh in

479
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:28,680
how we enforce them or follow them. And so you have,

480
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:32,720
for example, right wing sheriffs saying, you know, as we're

481
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,720
all familiar with over the past couple decades, like, you know,

482
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:38,519
we're not going to enforce certain kinds of federal gun laws,

483
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:41,119
right like we're we're not doing that. And then the

484
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,240
left says, we're not going to enforce immigration laws because

485
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:50,480
we like it when child sodomizers stay in our country

486
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:55,400
so that we can signal, how, you know, how wonderful

487
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,720
we are and that we're great allies, and which is

488
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:02,880
insane because if you think about it, the handful of

489
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,920
child sodomizers you know, and those are the first four

490
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,079
that come to mind in from the ice list of

491
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,039
the people that they were getting out right that they

492
00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:20,359
were snatching. They'd snatched like Ay thirteen hundred or something

493
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,359
of the highest priority illegals in the United States, whether

494
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,759
they were illegals or they had formerly had green cards

495
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,279
and had lost it because of felonies, and you know,

496
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:35,839
for one reason or another, they haven't been able to

497
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,519
get them out of the country. Like a big example

498
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,039
of this in Minnesota is the like Lao and Mung

499
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,000
communities communities up there who've been there since really the

500
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:52,440
late seventies or early eighties, mostly into the eighties, you know,

501
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,079
the last big wave of them being in the nineties.

502
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,480
You know, felons lose their green cards and they get

503
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,680
the boot, but you have to be able to remove

504
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,079
them from the country and send them to their home country.

505
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:12,960
And that is exceedingly difficult with certain situations where like

506
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,599
a lot of them are semi stateless people because their

507
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,519
family was from Laos, they were in a refugee camp

508
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:23,720
in Thailand where they were born, or like Laos is like,

509
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,720
you know, we don't want the felonious children of the

510
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:35,000
people that fought against our communist government back the Trump administration. Finally,

511
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:38,400
after like this is like a forty year process, the

512
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,920
Trump administration in the second term finally got laos to

513
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,160
take them back because they enough people are dependent on

514
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:51,640
aid from the United States and skimming it that it's

515
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,960
worth their while to take these people back and do

516
00:29:55,119 --> 00:30:00,720
various things. But anyway, that is who these supposed nighbors are.

517
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:05,440
I agree, Machiavelli sucks to go. You know that sending

518
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,279
them back to a country is not my top priority.

519
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:14,640
You know, Anakin glower. But you know, that's why there

520
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,960
are so many of them, is that we've had this

521
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:20,720
totally failed system where we couldn't get rid of them,

522
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,680
and then you have, you know, decades of accumulation of

523
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,599
people in a steady stream and then a massive explosion

524
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:34,720
during the Biden administration. It's very challenging to identify and

525
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:37,759
then remove all of these people. And you know, Ice

526
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:41,039
just got another like ten thousand people and it's like

527
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,119
ten to fifteen k per month per a couple months

528
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,039
over the next period is my understanding of how many

529
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,720
will be coming online. That could be a slight exaggeration,

530
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,680
but that was the figure I saw and so you

531
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:56,680
have to build up this force that can actually do it.

532
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:02,319
So everyone complaining about fiscal year on twenty five, which

533
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,880
was a essentially a Biden budget, and it wasn't you know,

534
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,839
all the stuff from the big beautiful bill, et cetera

535
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,920
came online this year. That's why there are all these delays.

536
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,359
It sucks. I wish it was it was better. And

537
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,839
so you're gonna see a ramping up of this and

538
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,920
this is the breaking of the wave of the resistance

539
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,000
to it that has to be done. You cannot let up.

540
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:29,720
You cannot take your foot off the gas. All these

541
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,000
people crying about optics and like I think we should

542
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:39,279
just be nice, like Joe Faggot Rogan, excuse me sorry,

543
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:44,759
like all that stuff. It's it's so delusional. You can't

544
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,200
do this without there being rough scenes when people resist it,

545
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,680
like that that footage from that target. They should have

546
00:31:53,759 --> 00:32:00,759
cracked that legume enthusiasts head open, like within thirty seconds

547
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,440
of interacting with him, from the way he was behaving

548
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:08,400
totally unacceptable and so him getting flattened and then handcuffed

549
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,960
and then ditched because they were like, oh wait, well

550
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,759
we can book him for assault or like, but it's

551
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,480
so minor, it'll probably get tossed off. So why don't

552
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,640
we just ditch him in a parking lot because we

553
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,480
can't remove him, but we have his information in case

554
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,519
we feel like going after him later. It's a low priority, right,

555
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:30,160
you know they're going to be doing this stuff, and

556
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,240
it's just up to us to say, I support what

557
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:35,079
Ice is doing.

558
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: That's our jab, right, It's like, okay, what's your top

559
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,799
priority here? Is it fixing the problem or being nice?

560
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:48,960
Because look like we've had decades now of conservatives who

561
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,839
are very concerned with being nice and being presentable, being

562
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,119
this sort of person you could invite to a cocktail

563
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,680
party and he wouldn't feel embarrassed by them. And okay, well,

564
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:03,799
let's examine the trajectory of the country. You know, how

565
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:06,119
many of us and I realize I'm sort of appreciating

566
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,960
to the choir here, but how many of us feel

567
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,200
as if the conservative movement has served us well, that

568
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,200
they have done a good job conserving really anything at all.

569
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,599
It's like, okay, well, if we accept that premise that

570
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,119
this is deeply flawed and dramatic changes need to be made,

571
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,200
it's like, well, people are going to be unhappy with that.

572
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,200
There are people who benefit from a current status quo.

573
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,400
There are people who are doing something they'd prefer to

574
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,160
be doing now that need to stop that. And you know,

575
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,720
this applies to any number of things, right, Like there

576
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,319
are people who you know, really love grooming children, right

577
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:47,000
they love finding trans kids and you know, rural America

578
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:50,079
and you know, spiriting them away to urban centers where

579
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,880
they can be thrown into foster care. Right. Benjamin Boyce

580
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,759
just talked to a woman chronicled one such event, and

581
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,039
it's like, Okay, well, I think we widely agree that

582
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:02,400
should stop. But if you do that, that person involved

583
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,759
in that, many other people will be upset. They might

584
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,640
even cry, they might even make a scene, and you know,

585
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,800
be forced to be removed or arrested. Of course, speaking

586
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,360
euphemism euphemistically here, but like that that's sort of baked in.

587
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,199
You can't do this without making people upset. There's simply

588
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,119
no way to do it. Like, either you're okay with

589
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,320
things as they are, or you're willing to make people upset.

590
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,639
It's quite simply the only two options. And to me,

591
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840
I understand, you know, feeling a little bit more laqueasy

592
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,639
about that. I understand that. You know, it would be

593
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,920
nice if we could simply have solved this, you know, simply,

594
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,320
and we could have for fifty sixty years ago. But

595
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,239
the problem is when you let a problem get this back, yeah,

596
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,199
you know, when you let the leak in your roof

597
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,239
go for two years, three years, four years, sixty, why

598
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,639
not it goes from being something that can be solved

599
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,239
pleasantly and easily, you know, with a relatively minimal amount

600
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,920
of force, to something that requires a lot of doing.

601
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,320
That simply is the calculus. And so if your answer

602
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,719
is well I don't want to do it, then you're

603
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,719
not in the game. You're okay with it. You were saying, no,

604
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,880
this is all right. I support the current thing. And

605
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,920
if you, out of one side of your mouth talk

606
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,920
about how horrible the current situation is, how the country

607
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,400
is being transformed by your replacement level migration, and then

608
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,119
on the other like, well we can't be mean. It's like,

609
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:27,280
well you must choose one. You can have only one

610
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,000
top priority, and I think we are seeing the top

611
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:34,199
priority of many people. Now, look that said, you know,

612
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,840
a lot of the the pro ice, you know, anti renade,

613
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,159
good reaction, as we said earlier, has been kind of weird,

614
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,480
you know, like Matt Walsh kind of looks like a

615
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:44,280
little bit of a psycho the way he talks about it.

616
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,800
I'm not saying that you should go to that extent,

617
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480
and in his case, I don't necessarily want to psycho

618
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,079
analyze him, but there seems to be something going on there,

619
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:55,159
you know, even as someone who doesn't believe in psychology.

620
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,719
But that said, it's like, well, look, man like, they're

621
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,360
not going to whoever you consider. They just give up

622
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,719
because you ask them to. Right, we have certainly seen

623
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,840
self deportations, but why is it because we asked or

624
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,239
because there were consequences? There were things that are going

625
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,840
to make that more unpleasant, and people ran the calculation

626
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,119
for themselves and decided, you know what, I had a

627
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:26,760
good run. And again that involved the threat, implied or

628
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,960
actual of violence one way or another, which, ultimately, man like,

629
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:34,440
that's what authority is. Power is all derived from violence.

630
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,960
And again, in a high trust society where people are

631
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,320
on the same page, that violence is very abstract, that

632
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,679
violence is very distant, but that is not the situation

633
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,639
we're in. And you see this in you know, the

634
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,639
third World. Right, there's a reason that policing in Brazil

635
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:54,000
looks very different from policing in America, even as America

636
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:56,280
is significantly more violent than it is in the UK

637
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,400
or is in most of Europe. And so again, to me,

638
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:05,079
it's again the same problem of like, you know, popular consensus,

639
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:08,960
where it's like that is no basis for policy. It

640
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,679
can't be because it is too fickle, it is too

641
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,280
unwilling to do difficult, unpopular but ultimately necessary things. I mean,

642
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,159
this is a conversation we get into all the time

643
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,199
talking about government entitlements and currency, where it's like, well,

644
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,360
eventually someone is gonna need to say, all right, like

645
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,920
no more social security. Like you know, if you assume

646
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,519
this thing can be saved, yea, that will have to happen.

647
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,639
But dude, no one wants to do it, right, it's

648
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:40,519
political suicide. But ultimately it's you know, it's the Gordian knot.

649
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:43,400
It's something which will be solved one way or another.

650
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,679
And that again is that sort of you know, decisionist politics, right,

651
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,760
who is willing to do that? Who is able to

652
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,960
do that? And uh yeah, man, I think that this

653
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:55,519
sort of like you know, over focus on optics. It's like,

654
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:58,000
I get it, it makes sense from a certain perspective,

655
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,360
but that will never solve us these sort of like

656
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,400
deep existential issues because you get in this sort of

657
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,320
you know, eternal status quo where, oh, we'll just keep

658
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,480
it how it is, We'll just issue an amnesty, we'll

659
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,599
just you know, legitimize what's already here, but no more.

660
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,039
But one that doesn't solve the problem. You're just painting over,

661
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:21,599
you know, rot you're you're you know, effectively covering over

662
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:25,119
and as we've seen over and over again, it's never done.

663
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,719
They never decide all right, we got enough, we'll stop,

664
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,039
Like you have an amnesty under Reagan, and what continues

665
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,679
to happen exactly the same thing that the amnesty was

666
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,960
supposed to end. And so to me, I guess it's

667
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,280
it's why you get so frustrated in this conversation, because

668
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,960
it's like, well, do you want to fix this man?

669
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,280
Because if you don't, like, there's some guys you can

670
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,119
hang out with if you're honest about it. But this

671
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:53,000
sort of you know, like middle road, this sort of

672
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:56,840
lukewarm response is ultimately very frustrating to me. I'll throw

673
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,519
it back to you, Carl.

674
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to want to point out a

675
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:06,679
couple some good news one just got posted two hours ago.

676
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:12,079
But I also want to answer or comment on an

677
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:16,599
observation made by Requited in the chat whose states. Although

678
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:18,639
I would have trained them on the work sites, the

679
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,199
violent criminal ones are probably more risk. The work sites

680
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:27,360
are absolutely being gone after, but it's very quiet on

681
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,679
that front. And my theory is that that is because

682
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:39,159
one that from an optical perspective, the libtards don't want

683
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,119
people to think about that or see that as much

684
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,840
because they don't want people to associate, you know, immigration

685
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:51,800
enforcement on what it really is, which is getting rid

686
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:59,559
of people stealing jobs and frankly labor law violations. Last year,

687
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:06,719
the morning of the Trump inauguration, a meatpacking plant in

688
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:14,320
North Texas was raided by Ice and Customs and Border

689
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Patrol because they had been flagrantly abusing a pool of

690
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,440
Social Security numbers, including my wife's by the way, for decades. Dumas,

691
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:35,119
Texas sometimes known as Dumbass Texas. But anyhow, I know

692
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:39,960
you and I know someone from there, Jay. But anyhow,

693
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,719
that and that was because they had been reported for

694
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,639
years and years and years of the social Security Administration

695
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:50,320
because they were recycling Social Security numbers that they were

696
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:54,320
reusing for people who of course worked just enough to

697
00:40:54,599 --> 00:41:00,360
like squeak under you know, the annual minimum for for

698
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,880
paying taxes and stuff like that to keep it from

699
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,239
showing up. But they were recycling them on a regular basis.

700
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,400
And then like around me, there was a job site

701
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,679
where ninety percent of the employees were napped because they

702
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,840
were all illegal Central Americans, et cetera. So that is

703
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,719
going on. That's going on in Texas, that's going on

704
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:28,119
in states where local law enforcement is cooperating, and even

705
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,320
in some blue and purple states, you know, in the

706
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,199
more rural purple to red counties, this is going on

707
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,760
and it's still going on. And that's where a lot

708
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,400
of the numbers of the physical expulsions of like the

709
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,280
six hundred thousand from last year, were associated with these

710
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,760
high visibility ICE. Thank Carl.

711
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,159
Speaker 1: What's that number you said there?

712
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,559
Speaker 2: Wasn't it six hundred thousand?

713
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, dude, it was at least six million.

714
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:01,039
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, I think it was fifteen million personally,

715
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,199
you know, sorry, I numbers are we going with the

716
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,239
yad vishem deportation numbers or.

717
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,199
Speaker 1: See the American Red Cross has a different story.

718
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,679
Speaker 2: I do have to point out that the American Red Cross,

719
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:22,760
those figures are associated with one site. Let's just put

720
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,800
it that way, so people get that those figures conflated

721
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,880
that you know, you should go. I think that Thomas

722
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,280
seven seven seven approach is probably the most accurate. But anyhow, what.

723
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,159
Speaker 1: Are we talking about again, Carl deportation.

724
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,079
Speaker 2: So yeah, so the high visibility stuff that we're seeing

725
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:44,079
is in these in these blue enclaves where like the governors,

726
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:50,679
the governors are supporting the uh you know, the the

727
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,840
mayors and such that are allowing this, and it's in

728
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,239
the bluest of the blue hives. You notice that you

729
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,000
don't see nearly as much of this out of California anymore.

730
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:04,960
Yet is going ham in California? Why is that? People

731
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,199
have had conversations Now My position is that they absolutely

732
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,480
need to be arresting governors and mayors and anyone who's

733
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:17,360
coordinating this kind of stuff. And I would even go

734
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,320
so far as to say I won't say it. However,

735
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,199
here's something else that's new. Here's some more good news.

736
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:31,039
Everyone has been complaining aboutrant immigrant visa pauses, and there

737
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:34,920
were only like thirteen of the worst abusers that were frozen,

738
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:37,960
and everyone's like, I want to see India. India is

739
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,480
not on this. But as of this morning, little Marclo

740
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:49,840
foam enthusiast, excuse me, Marco Grande Rubio freezes all foreign

741
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:56,920
visa processing indefinitely from seventy five countries. Officially, it's temporary.

742
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,760
The phrasing is the State Department. This is quoting quote.

743
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,440
The State Department will pause immigrant visa processing from seventy

744
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,079
five countries whose migrants take welfare from the American people

745
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:11,719
at unacceptable rates. The freeze will remain active until the

746
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,920
US can ensure that new immigrants will not extract wealth

747
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,920
from the American people. Unquote seventy five countries. It's basically

748
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:24,519
the entire third world. India is not on there. Unfortunately,

749
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:36,800
Pakistan is. Russia's on there. Interestingly, China is not. But

750
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,199
it's basically almost it's almost the entire third World, not Vietnam.

751
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:47,840
So it isn't just the welfare, but it's also and

752
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:54,480
there's some there's some like legacy populations that help shift

753
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,400
the numbers, but they do have extremely high welfare utilization

754
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,159
as well as visa over stay rates. And just general parasitism.

755
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,719
And this is a lot of this is making these

756
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,280
countries playball with America with the US State Department because

757
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,239
they haven't been. But that's good news. And yes, there's

758
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,480
a lot of complex like geostrategic issues that are that

759
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:23,880
are baked into this, but it's very good news that

760
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,280
they're saying, like you can't even come here on a

761
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:31,159
tourist visa, and they're going to be particularly scrutinous with

762
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:38,239
even consular, uh, consular visas. So this is good stuff.

763
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,039
Speaker 1: So the the other thing that I want to talk about,

764
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:47,079
uh is and this is kind of a similar to

765
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:51,280
both the immigration issue and you know, the anti Ice riots,

766
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,079
something that we've talked about multiple times, which is the

767
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,039
continuing kind of uh you could say conservative civil war right,

768
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:04,039
the woke right struggle. Woo boy as that majorly kicked

769
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:13,159
off because Tucker Carlson interviewed his brother Buckley based Buckley Yeah, yeah,

770
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:15,559
you know, don't know super well, but I have some

771
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:18,679
sort of relationship with He's a very kind guy or

772
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,960
generous with his time. And the interview was good, you know,

773
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,559
it was kind of fun just to see like these

774
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:27,559
two guys who obviously you have a great deal of

775
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:30,800
affection for each other and for their father, but also Ben,

776
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,199
it was just an interesting interview, right, you got to

777
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,559
plug for the UN's review like fifteen seconds in, you know,

778
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:42,239
which you know is certainly a strong start to the conversation.

779
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:50,960
But the reaction has been absolutely absurd, right you have

780
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:54,679
you know, John pod Horritz, who is a genuine lunatic,

781
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:58,639
like it was just jumping at the bit, has lost

782
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,880
his mind. Particular weirdly enough the comment that sort of

783
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,000
you know, kicked off this whole uh yeah, this whole

784
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:13,679
disaster was was I thought, relatively mild. Uh yes, sex

785
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,360
freakman the UNKX review, I think is what I should

786
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,519
have been saying. Uh But in all seriousness, right, Fucky

787
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:22,519
made this point where he was talking about, you know,

788
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:25,079
realizing that so many of the cultural narratives that we

789
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:28,079
know are are false, and he basically said, you know,

790
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:30,880
I grew up, you know, talking to Cold Warriors, people

791
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,960
who were you know, involved in the fight against communism.

792
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,679
They always talked about North Korea, Right, is this country

793
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,800
under complete and total narrative control? And he said, you know,

794
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,280
and then I grew up and I realized, wait a minute,

795
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,599
where North Korea. And of course he doesn't literally mean

796
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:45,159
where North Korea.

797
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: You don't.

798
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: You don't have to have you know, one hundred and

799
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,639
thirty IQ to pick up on what he's saying, but

800
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,719
making the point that America is under a sort of

801
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,199
social engineering regime that we have you know, been subjected

802
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,480
to the same sort of narrative control. And this comment

803
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:03,280
came within a broader discussion of COVID, which is a

804
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,239
great example, right, there was a strong narrative push, one

805
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,599
that was being updated in real time. Again, come on,

806
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,199
it's not that hard to figure out what he's saying.

807
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,719
But you've seen these sort of crazy responses from the

808
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:23,920
usual suspects. So for instance, you have this Jordan and

809
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,840
sc and tell we'll go with that. Lots of Star

810
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:36,000
Wars names, Buckley is job lists, he owns lots of stuff,

811
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,519
you know, going through it. Now he says, weird North Korea.

812
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,360
The Wolk right is a comedy routine. Again this term

813
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:45,519
getting out there right, connecting it to Carlson. But we

814
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:49,559
see from Joseph Brooks no points for guessing. Uh, he's

815
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:53,079
a great advertisement for putting in a high inheritance task. Obviously,

816
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:56,440
conservatives enjoy abhor such a concept, but he isn't one anyway,

817
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,719
so he's a great poster child the idea that we

818
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,639
should take all this guy's money away. I don't like him,

819
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:07,239
we should smash him. Schofield, Not quite, but point is right.

820
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,039
Like this has been one of many such reactions. You've

821
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:14,760
got another one from Let me pull this up. One

822
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,920
of my favorite follows on the internet, by the way,

823
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,400
is Mark Levin. You know, this is really tied to

824
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,119
a lot of the stuff out of you know, out

825
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:28,639
of Iran speaks. Dude, man, this guy's going off. So

826
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,119
i'll again sort of, you know, kind of summarize what

827
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:35,599
he's saying. But this is the first paragraph which has

828
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,440
an M dash in it, which makes me wonder if

829
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,760
Ai wrote this talking about the situation in Iran. It

830
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,280
should be no shock to you that Mark R. Levin

831
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,920
is pushing very hard for a war in Iran. This

832
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:52,400
Islamic Nazi regime in Iran. Several questions there should have

833
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,800
been taken out in June when the woke right neo

834
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,800
fascists that's us and therefoeign government task masters sought to

835
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:04,039
silence me, but for are emboldened. He's spelled that wrong,

836
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,960
all the lies, all the lives lost, the horrendous slaughter

837
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:12,880
the other inhumanity, and the isolationists remain isolationists and worse

838
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:17,719
mouthpieces for the enemy. They are psychotic monsters. They remain

839
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Israel blaming jew haters as the Iranian people see p

840
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,519
help from Potis and pn net and Yahoo. Huh. Not Qatar,

841
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,440
not Saudi Arabia, not Turkey, not from any Muslim country.

842
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:32,519
So point is, he goes on a little bit longer,

843
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:38,119
but going back to you know, talking about Iran, and look, man,

844
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:40,360
I don't like the Iranian government in particular, but this

845
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,760
is just absurd.

846
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it's retarded.

847
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: The Islamic Nazi regime is committing horrific acts of genocide

848
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:53,880
against the majority Muslim citizenry. An Islamic Nazi regime attacking Muslims. Huh.

849
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,400
Take a note, and remember who's demanding immediate action against

850
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,760
these hitlarian mass murderers. Them seeking Muslims. Take note, keep

851
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,320
speaking out loudly, so again.

852
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: That free get your heads bashed in.

853
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: Again, man, going back to our conversation about Ice. Regardless

854
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,440
of how you feel about this, like I Ran as

855
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,039
a country, they've got a lot of guys with guns.

856
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:21,360
Clearly they don't have anything, uh, you know, any combunction

857
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,760
about slaughtering their own people. It's just absurd. It's wish casting,

858
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,320
as I heard someone say. But again we see that

859
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,480
mention of the term woke right or woke right really clever.

860
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:35,960
There the idea that if you have any objection to

861
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:39,960
you know, neo kon projects, if you have any oh shoot,

862
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,119
actually I accidentally clicked that, but that's pretty funny.

863
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,199
Speaker 2: Click. The most recent one.

864
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:54,159
Speaker 1: Islamo fascisted across the room hitlerly that islah. But again, right,

865
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:57,199
we see several things there. We see this desire to

866
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:00,719
connect the so called woke right, woke right, if you will,

867
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:03,840
to enemies foreign and domestic, the idea that they need

868
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,039
to be smashed, their wealth needs to be taken, they

869
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:08,840
need to be ruined. But what's interesting is this this

870
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,239
sort of term, or this sort of trend line I've

871
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,960
identified for a while. To be honest, I started to

872
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:22,119
reach into into government, right, So forgive me for bringing

873
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:27,639
up one Jimbo Lindsay, but he's continued this this push.

874
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,760
So the Department of Labor put out kind of a

875
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,519
you know, a hype edit you've seen this from the

876
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:36,800
Trump administration before, and it's nothing, you know, shocking, right,

877
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,400
it's you know, Thomas Jefferson his statue in front of

878
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,760
kind of a quick edit of different pictures of American excellence, right,

879
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,960
you know, Frontiersman, you know, Pioneers, that sort of thing,

880
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:53,079
just a quick ten second video. But the phrase at

881
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:56,440
the top, one homeland, one people, one heritage, Remember who

882
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,719
you are. American produced a similar just absence chimp out,

883
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:03,679
and again we see this deliberate use of the term

884
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,559
woke right to try and justify an internal perf not again,

885
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,920
the very real threat of political violence, not the people

886
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,599
threatening Trump administration leaders or others with jail time, with

887
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,239
being sent to the Hague. This is the real struggle,

888
00:53:18,679 --> 00:53:23,800
right of course, Remember there's the one axis of this,

889
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,440
which is you know, the foreign policy, which you know

890
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,960
the Trump administration has sadly capitulated on, but also on

891
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:35,880
the domestic. So this is from you know, very based

892
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:42,280
James Lindsay based AF as his Twitter handle tells us,

893
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,719
the young men who run the social media accounts for

894
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,880
the Department of Labor don't know who it is, and

895
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,480
Department of Homeland Security very likely full name not going

896
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:54,679
to read it a recent Claremont Lincoln fellow. Are woke right,

897
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:58,920
if not Grouper's, if not neo Nazis, just be fired immediately.

898
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,639
Again we see this call for effectively political assassination. Get

899
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:09,840
these guys out, get them gone. All of the previous

900
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:13,360
remarks we heard from Levin and from Lindsay, from any

901
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,119
one of these guys about cancel culture were insincere. It

902
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:22,320
affected them. They had no principled objection to this. And

903
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,800
we see this again, this sort of tactical liberalism, liberalism

904
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,079
for me but not for the right, the idea that

905
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:31,039
I need to be respected, I need to be allowed

906
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:33,119
to say whatever I want, and if you disagree with that,

907
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,159
you will be driven out. And again we see who

908
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:39,519
these people real enemies are. Sure they love talking about

909
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:44,599
the woke left kind of, but aren't nearly as interested

910
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,480
in actually solving these issues and doing something mean as

911
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,880
we said earlier, and actually getting to the root of

912
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,119
these issues. They only matter insomuch as they affect their priorities,

913
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:58,480
which on a personal level are kind of their sinecures.

914
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:00,880
They feel as if they're owed there shall we say

915
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:06,159
foreign policy objectives, you know, across the world, And yeah,

916
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,840
they are doing the exact same thing, using this term

917
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:14,000
woke right as a in group out group signify clearly

918
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:17,079
they are angling for a perche. They're angling for these

919
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:19,559
people to be fired from their jobs, to have their

920
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:23,239
wealth stripped. They're calling them traders to the nation, you know,

921
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,320
foreign adversaries like this is the angle right, this is

922
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,960
what they want. And to say, oh, this is infighting

923
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:34,320
on our side, No it's not. They aren't on our side.

924
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,239
They're on their side, and they're more than willing to

925
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,079
try and twist us to those ends. But clearly they

926
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:43,360
have different priorities. Clearly they're different things which motivate them,

927
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:48,239
which which they prioritize. And again these people have completely

928
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,760
lost their minds. So again I'll read another one, and

929
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:56,199
this is less philosophically significant. It just kind of shows

930
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,800
you the absolute nutcases these people are. So John Potarts

931
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,440
I can't say his name, I refuse to pronounce it correctly.

932
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,199
He's talking about, you know, Buckley Carlson Buckaroo, who I

933
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,880
remember as a repellent teenage creep. I have a weird

934
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,239
feeling that you're now a drunken, drug addled mucher loser

935
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,079
and a vile anti Semite whose soul is rotted away,

936
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:19,800
you know, kind of like your brothers. So I'm probably

937
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,880
right again going for the throat saying insane things. You're

938
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,960
just just absolutely foaming at them out because again all

939
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:31,719
the woke stuff didn't bother them. They opposed it, right,

940
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,639
but not enough to actually do anything. Yeah, but when

941
00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:38,400
you're you know, actually you're passionate about your people, about

942
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,719
prioritizing your interests above certain Middle Eastern democracies, well then

943
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,280
the knife come out. Then we see what really matters.

944
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,000
Then we see the construction of this friend enemy distinction

945
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,000
where my enemies can do no right and my friends

946
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,800
can do no wrong. And all of these liberal priors

947
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,639
disappear into thin air, just return to dust, because that's

948
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:01,199
what they always weren't. They weren't real. They're completely and

949
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,079
totally fake. And I'm reading you these selections messages not

950
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:07,679
because I think there's any deep argument in them, right,

951
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:10,159
A lot of these are just throwing invectives out, just

952
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:13,119
just kind of criticizing every aspect of a person to

953
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:16,880
get something to stick. But because they've shown you what

954
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,760
they care about, what animates that, and again it's not

955
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,679
things that benefit you it's not the people trying to

956
00:57:25,719 --> 00:57:28,719
attack you, the people trying to harm you, that's almost indeterminate.

957
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:33,920
It's their priorities, very clearly, and I have less I

958
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,400
have no sympathy for this sort of behavior. These people

959
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:40,480
who claim to be, you know, the representatives of a

960
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,159
conservative right wing movement. You know, if they are simply

961
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:47,079
there as one half of a sandwich, right that they

962
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:52,280
control one half of the Overton window and again.

963
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: A certain type, a certain flavor.

964
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Reuben might.

965
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: Approved, approved by certain people, blessed one, I could say.

966
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:06,039
Speaker 1: And that is their priority more than anything else. All

967
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:08,880
the other stuff is merely window dressing, you know, the

968
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,960
glove around the iron fist. So yeah, that sort of

969
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840
attempted purge has continued to pace. You know, we've seen

970
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,320
the scope grow from first kind of focused on Tucker

971
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,760
in particular, who look like you know, I like a show.

972
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,679
I don't agree with him on many things, but clearly,

973
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,079
you know, he has become sort of an avatar. It

974
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,800
is extended to Nicholas J. Fuentes. You notice the term

975
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,880
groper being invoked kind of cynically and inaccurately, right to

976
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,920
just be anyone I don't like in much the same way. Yeah,

977
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,639
that you know in cell is used to just attack

978
00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:43,519
any man a woman doesn't like Joe. Soberen made this

979
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:48,639
comment about the term anti semite. But point is, you know,

980
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:53,079
we see that the knives come out anyway, we do

981
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:58,000
have a single super chat from theel Bucks to Chardon.

982
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:03,920
Carl alluded to something interesting. The start has sort of inverted.

983
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,199
Stratt has sort of been inverted in that the stereotypically

984
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:10,960
criminal image of the aliens is preferable to the relatively

985
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:13,480
normal blue collar type workers. Oh one hundred percent. And

986
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,320
that's that sort of ocophobia, right that the heat map,

987
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:19,239
as someone else would put it, right of where empathy lies.

988
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,480
That's what it is right to interact with progressives. They

989
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,719
have a radically different sense of or an inverted hierarchy

990
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:28,599
scale for exactly that reason. Sorry, Carl, I realized I

991
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:30,639
threw a bunch at you there, but I did think

992
00:59:30,679 --> 00:59:34,119
that was notable because that that battle has only intensified

993
00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:36,440
since we spoke about it, you know, most recently. But

994
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:38,000
I agree, you get your reaction.

995
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: I agree utterly. And let me point something out that's

996
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,719
that I think is very important that people are missing

997
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,400
in the commentariat. But I'm not us Department of Labor.

998
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,920
You were just quoting the complaints about the one homeland,

999
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,880
one people, one heritage, or remember who you are American?

1000
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,320
That was a if you go back to the early

1001
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,360
twentieth century, that was a talking point that was actually

1002
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:11,440
very inclusive. It was not exclusive. It was essentially saying,

1003
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,679
we're grafting you into this, but you have to respect it.

1004
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:22,800
And now now you know, obviously these people who claim

1005
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:28,960
to be conservatives, neo conservatives, right, they are saying essentially no,

1006
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:35,039
that approach, and those people are not who we are now.

1007
01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:39,960
Like the new Founding, which happened either after eighteen sixty

1008
01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:44,639
five or after nineteen sixty five, is who we are now.

1009
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,440
And we the your betters that you know, we're the

1010
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,840
ones who are the intellectuals, as a certain person in

1011
01:00:54,519 --> 01:01:00,440
Sweden said recently when she resurfaced from out of her car, often,

1012
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,480
you know, we are the we are the intellectuals, and

1013
01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:08,679
we're the ones who determine what's legitimate and what's not.

1014
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:14,559
And so the supposed conservatives kicking and screaming about this optics,

1015
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:17,960
which is literally just a classic like this is the

1016
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,119
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States of

1017
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:26,880
America this year, and invoking that is unacceptable. Invoking everything before,

1018
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,760
like Heartseller, is unacceptable. So it's really it's really quite

1019
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,960
telling that the people who who are using this woke light,

1020
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:43,920
woke right label are the ones who are deceiving, and

1021
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:50,880
in fact, their ancestors doubled and tripled down on this reconciliation,

1022
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:58,519
on this inclusive one homeland, one people, one heritage, you know, verbiage.

1023
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,800
We are part of it, We're grafted into it. We're

1024
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,440
just like you, let us in, like we will respect it.

1025
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:09,280
And they did a very good job of doing that

1026
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:15,559
publicly at least, and officially informally in the literature into

1027
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,639
really into some point in the sixties and seventies, kind

1028
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:23,079
of depending on which faction, which side of the sandwich

1029
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:27,639
they fell into. And so the fact that even these

1030
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:34,320
supposed conservatives are freaking out about traditional representations of actual

1031
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,559
America is hilarious because it shows how bankrupt they are

1032
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,320
and how it was always a lie and it was

1033
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:47,960
always a tactic. So I love it, and we need

1034
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,960
to hold up the microphone to them and use their

1035
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:57,719
own words, let their own words and own positions represent

1036
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:04,719
them instead of some like third party non primary sources

1037
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:09,840
like summary of what they claim to be. It's wonderful, frankly,

1038
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,320
because it invalidates everything that they've claimed that they represent.

1039
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,920
If you have your average patriotic American boomer who gets

1040
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,440
a lot of crap if you put this in front

1041
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:29,079
of them, if you juxtapose these two things, they will

1042
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:32,519
short out. Their minds will short out, and they were like,

1043
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,880
they'll be like, wait a minute, that guy doesn't care

1044
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,360
about us at all. He claims to represent us and

1045
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:45,000
speak for us. Because the actual American conservative, like the

1046
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:50,360
vast majority of them, still love their country. They still

1047
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:50,840
love this.

1048
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1049
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:56,119
Speaker 2: Now, I will say that there are some from more recent,

1050
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:00,880
more recent immigrant stock whose name is and in vowels

1051
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,440
a lot of the time that have this like aman

1052
01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:06,960
immigrant like way stronger and they have this this isn't

1053
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:10,519
me way stronger. I still like I tend to like

1054
01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:15,440
those people. I respect their their wacky Mediterranean ways. And

1055
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,599
so they're one of those like schism like wedge points

1056
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:23,840
that that you get. But like your average like deep

1057
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,880
heritage American, if they're not a total like libtard who

1058
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,159
like thinks that they're like thirty percent Cherokee because their

1059
01:04:31,199 --> 01:04:36,119
grandmother was like a dusky German or something. You know, uh,

1060
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:40,599
you know they they tend to respect and love their heritage.

1061
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:44,679
And so this is a beautiful wedge point. You don't

1062
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:47,079
have to rant and rave. You don't have to talk

1063
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:51,719
about the Red Cross versus yad vashem. This is it,

1064
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,519
This is this is a weapon. They're handing you a hammer.

1065
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And actually I think we all know

1066
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:03,000
who the boomer in our life who is absolutely convinced

1067
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:04,519
that he or she is actually an Indian.

1068
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

1069
01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: Look like I've got my whole family, uh like family

1070
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,719
heritage on that side documented in a bound binder thanks

1071
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:17,280
to my grandmother. Uh yeah, it may surprise you to

1072
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,719
learn that's not true.

1073
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: It's not true at all. Right, when people say when

1074
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,719
people say the average white American is or the average

1075
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:29,679
American is like six percent non white, and it's like

1076
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:33,159
or has six percent non white heritage, what that means

1077
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:37,559
is when you look at like people who are genuinely

1078
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,800
yet when you're when you when you look at people

1079
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,480
who are genuinely mixed race, like that's who that's accounting for. Like,

1080
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:49,239
and yes, there are places where you have like more

1081
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,679
Native American ad mixture, and if you go to like

1082
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,440
I can go to this one res near where my

1083
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:02,440
in laws live, and they're like the average person there

1084
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,679
who's on the tribal council is seventy five percent white.

1085
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:08,920
Like this is like, that's where most of that is is.

1086
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,400
You you either know it, like very clearly, or like

1087
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,000
it just doesn't exist. And yeah, there's a sprinkling of

1088
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,679
people where some guy, you know, one hundred and fifty

1089
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:22,440
years ago, see Captain married a Chinese woman or something

1090
01:06:22,519 --> 01:06:26,880
like that, or like you know, took his Native American bride,

1091
01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:30,920
But it's really the vast majority of us are just

1092
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,679
one hundred percent white. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

1093
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: So we have a very generous twenty dollars super chat

1094
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,159
from Mando Spam to eighty seven this year. I look

1095
01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:44,880
forward to the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the US.

1096
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:47,599
That being said, do you think the US has has

1097
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:51,719
a solid country last past two hundred and seventy five?

1098
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,039
It felt quite uncertain as of late. Look, man, I

1099
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:58,559
think that countries and governments are a lot stickier than

1100
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:01,559
we'd like to think. I mean, lookah, I ran so

1101
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:04,840
I'd say that the math on that's almost entirely Yes,

1102
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,000
I think that there's a lot of doom posting, a

1103
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:10,519
lot of people kind of fantasizing about the end, and

1104
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:12,480
that's been going on for quite a while. I think

1105
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:15,880
that the the black pillows. Of course, this can go

1106
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,079
on for way longer than you think. There's you know,

1107
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:20,320
a whole lot of ruin in a nation, as Adam

1108
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,280
Smith said, so yes, I mean, look like Brazil is

1109
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,079
still nominally a country, and I wouldn't want to live there.

1110
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,760
So the point is, I think, yes, you know, to

1111
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,119
what degree does the empire continue to function? That's sort

1112
01:07:33,159 --> 01:07:35,960
of an open question. The economics of this don't make

1113
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,960
any sense, but they haven't made any sense for longer

1114
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,519
than I've been alive. So you know clearly that, you know,

1115
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,679
illogical situations can go on for quite some time. So

1116
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:48,159
I'd say there's a very good chance of you know,

1117
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:53,039
two seventy five and then honestly even past that. Okay,

1118
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,239
look at that. Wow, we're getting super chats. Thank you guys,

1119
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:01,599
very generous. Cordy Wise easy seven for two dollars Canadian.

1120
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:06,480
I'm having a kid. Is it inbreeding? If she's Irish?

1121
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:10,679
Did you mean inbreeding or something else, because that wouldn't

1122
01:08:10,719 --> 01:08:13,239
matter if she's Irish. It would matter how closely related

1123
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,680
to her you are, in which case you're Canadian. So yeah,

1124
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,680
probably uh so. Yeah, but your to the question you

1125
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,039
seemingly meant to ask. Yeah, I'm sorry, man, you will

1126
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:29,720
have POC as a child. Pay no attention to how

1127
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,399
much I look like prominent Irish actor Silly and Murphy

1128
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,279
or the occurrence of certain names in my own family tree. Yeah,

1129
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:40,119
I haven't done the DNA test, so I'm not Irish

1130
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:40,479
at all.

1131
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,399
Speaker 2: You know what I've found out recently that I have

1132
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,920
an Irish I have like a couple Irish ancestors, or

1133
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:54,239
let me rephrase, I have a one Irish ancestor from

1134
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:58,119
the colony of the founders of the Colony of Maryland.

1135
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,760
So yeah, I am a POC.

1136
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that means you can say it Carl and

1137
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:14,960
he certainly cashed in your car. Use uh glorified Carter. Sorry,

1138
01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:18,000
I really wanted to say Gardner there, Carl is running

1139
01:09:18,039 --> 01:09:20,159
for the most based gen x are on the Internet. Yeah,

1140
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:23,800
I think I mean you got t Triple seven and Pete,

1141
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,399
who are both your your co compatriots there, which which

1142
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,079
might give you a run for your money. But yeah, Carl,

1143
01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:32,760
you're you're pretty good. Uh the you know for this

1144
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:38,079
this uh podcast? Yeah, what was the one that was

1145
01:09:38,079 --> 01:09:40,600
going around for a while. Was it like the Boomer

1146
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,600
and the Fetus or something stupid?

1147
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was something hilarious like that. That's so funny.

1148
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah again. Uh yeah, no, Carl, Carl is great, which

1149
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:53,600
is why we keep having him back on. Yeah. No,

1150
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:59,199
Actually I think I think z Man I really enjoyed

1151
01:09:59,399 --> 01:10:02,680
our retrospective on him, Carl. It was on Pete Show.

1152
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,520
If you guys are interested in listening to it. You

1153
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,720
knew him, you knew him better than I did. But uh, yeah,

1154
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,079
it was. It was good to sort of do a

1155
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:12,039
send off there. Obviously we're much poorer without him around.

1156
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh it was.

1157
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: It was good to sort of, you know, have a

1158
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,439
sort of time to look back on it at the

1159
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,199
end of last year.

1160
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good It was a good way

1161
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:23,039
to wrap up the year because I literally think that

1162
01:10:23,239 --> 01:10:28,479
like z Man's passing and the recognition that he got,

1163
01:10:29,079 --> 01:10:33,680
uh you know, formally from so many people was possibly

1164
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,560
as consequential as the second Trump administration. Like I'm not

1165
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:43,159
joking yeah, I mean in our circles.

1166
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, and also like I think that, like

1167
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:49,159
many people, I didn't realize how widely read he was

1168
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:52,159
because I was primarily a podcast consumer of his content.

1169
01:10:52,319 --> 01:10:54,159
You know, that's that's really worth being.

1170
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: A zoomer with all these words and ship.

1171
01:10:59,319 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: Can you explain this to me, Draco what I would

1172
01:11:06,079 --> 01:11:10,439
never Carl? You know, my form one was filed yesterday.

1173
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful, it's technically no longer a Draco. You've gotten

1174
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:16,600
your white card back?

1175
01:11:17,279 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 1: What is it? Is it the It's not an AMD,

1176
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,399
that's the Romanian one? Is it the pm D? The

1177
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,720
Romanian shorties? Is that what they're officially called again?

1178
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh forget the AMD is Hungarian? Yeah? Oh, let me

1179
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,000
look at my big book of the Kalashnikov.

1180
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: H you have that?

1181
01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:45,399
Speaker 2: Oh? I have an official Klashnikov arms Russian book from

1182
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,000
the ninth It's the.

1183
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: Pm D sixty pm D sixty three. I believe maybe

1184
01:11:55,079 --> 01:11:58,479
maybe I cannot read Romanian. I'm not sure it's a

1185
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,840
real language. It's this is gun autism. You don't need

1186
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:03,239
to know.

1187
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,039
Speaker 2: Is through a book like it's the Middle Ages?

1188
01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:12,359
Speaker 1: Is there sublay surfer at the bottom, because that's the

1189
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:13,600
only way I could read a book.

1190
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:22,159
Speaker 2: And it's in Russian, so it's oh, there's some English,

1191
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,520
so there is the Yeah, PM sixty three is the

1192
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:33,840
old underfolder the Avtamat aims. And then I'm looking for

1193
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,760
a Shortian. I'm not seeing it in here, but that's

1194
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:41,720
because this is a very old book. I do have

1195
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,279
to say, like, the AMD sixty five is one of

1196
01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:48,600
those things that like looks sick as hell, but the

1197
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,600
first time you actually shoot one with that muzzle break, like,

1198
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,399
it's a horrible experience. That muzzle break just directs all

1199
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:02,319
of the muzzle blasts right into your like nasal cavity,

1200
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,199
and like your inner ear just shatters. It's quite it's

1201
01:13:06,279 --> 01:13:09,960
quite unpleasant. I fired one without hearing protection one time,

1202
01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:14,840
and I think I lost like seven IQ points. I'm

1203
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,439
dead serious. I used to be much more erudite and

1204
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,760
like much better at math.

1205
01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the uh I got the privilege of uh And

1206
01:13:25,079 --> 01:13:29,520
he'll probably send me a text afterwards of shooting a

1207
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:34,399
fil auto you goo uh ak with you know, a

1208
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,920
friend of the show. I'll say that who might actually

1209
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,479
show up on one of our live streams. Carl very nice.

1210
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,520
I'll tell you about it later. You like the guy, uh,

1211
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,560
what point is? It had the like old school uh

1212
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,359
slant break right, which looked like a full out of

1213
01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:54,079
ak is not particularly controllable anyway, but the slant break

1214
01:13:54,319 --> 01:13:57,600
sort of turns the pattern and you know, you basement

1215
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,000
valling losers. May you know be familiar with the cunts

1216
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:02,079
from like counterstrike, right, You know, it kind of climbs

1217
01:14:02,159 --> 01:14:05,039
up and in sort of a random pattern. It takes

1218
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:08,079
it from being a vertical string to like a nine

1219
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:12,640
to three o'clock slash. Right, So we're shooting this like huge,

1220
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,520
like I don't know, like door sized piece of steel

1221
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,439
out in the middle of the woods, like forty yards away.

1222
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,800
In order to get anything on target, you'd have to

1223
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,039
start like two feet to the left and you shoot

1224
01:14:24,039 --> 01:14:26,399
like three four rounds. The middle two would be kind

1225
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,600
of somewhere on the door, and the rest would just

1226
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,399
be in like a diagonal line straight up. The verb

1227
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:39,000
the Communists have a very different understanding of ergonomics than

1228
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:39,800
we do in the West.

1229
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: Yes they do. Oh, it was actually a Japanese book

1230
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:49,880
that I have on Kloshnikov patterns that has the Romanian

1231
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,960
that has the Romanian types in here. So let me

1232
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:00,560
find the origin. Okay, so it was the aim was

1233
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,720
the was the original AKM variant with the with the

1234
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:09,920
dong for a grip. And then let's see here there

1235
01:15:10,039 --> 01:15:17,359
is a shorty aim carbing that the that the Yeah,

1236
01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:20,960
they just call it an aim carbing that the Draco

1237
01:15:21,319 --> 01:15:25,039
is based on. It's the same, it's the same everything

1238
01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:26,159
in seven six y two.

1239
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: How do you say the choppa in Romanian?

1240
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: Uh?

1241
01:15:33,079 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: Cordy again? For ten dollars Canadian? Do you think destabilizing

1242
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,920
Canada for a chance at conquest makes sense? Obviously, hate

1243
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,560
the vile Republic South, but even the American people cannot

1244
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,720
be that stupid. Keep the Great White North.

1245
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:45,399
Speaker 2: Uh.

1246
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: I am unsure of how serious that is.

1247
01:15:49,319 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: Uh.

1248
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,359
Speaker 1: That seems to be kind of meming.

1249
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,520
Speaker 2: Thirty stabilizing themselves.

1250
01:15:55,239 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred per I mean I can certainly see

1251
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,840
something just to kind of keep the as Alex Jones

1252
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,720
would say, the chi cooms out, you know, as we

1253
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,239
sort of hibit to you know, some sort of like

1254
01:16:08,319 --> 01:16:13,720
Hemisphere focus. I actually had a great episode. It probably

1255
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:18,920
won't get great views, but talking about exactly this with

1256
01:16:19,399 --> 01:16:23,840
Chronicles contributor whose name he's I don't want to get

1257
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,279
this wrong. He is from the Balkans, and I literally

1258
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:29,680
cannot pronounce his name, but Triffkillick is his last name.

1259
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,399
Speaker 2: How would you be able to man, I.

1260
01:16:32,359 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: Can't pronounce English. You've heard me mispronounced very basic words

1261
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,840
like ten times on this show. You throw in another

1262
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:44,079
language with letters that I entirely understand. Yeah, foreign languages.

1263
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,239
The point is that will be kind of a further

1264
01:16:48,279 --> 01:16:52,479
examination of that topic. I'm not entirely confident anything will

1265
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,479
come from it. And again, even the kind of like

1266
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,800
meme maps I've seen have been you know, the kind

1267
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,319
of like far northern territory, which, like, let's be honest,

1268
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:05,199
even if we did technically control that, how much would

1269
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:09,000
that affect either us or you? I mean, yeah, sure

1270
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,439
there's some mineral right stuff, but like it's pretty barren country.

1271
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,880
So I have several I just don't think it's gonna happen.

1272
01:17:16,199 --> 01:17:17,680
But this is also the guy who said that the

1273
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,319
Russian Ukraine War wasn't gonna happen. So, like, you know,

1274
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,439
do not take my predictions on international relations. I'm very

1275
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,319
bad at them. That's sort of my initial response. What

1276
01:17:27,319 --> 01:17:30,279
do you think, Carl about the possibility.

1277
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: Of I have my personal opinion, don't dox me or anything.

1278
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:44,439
But I have I have Canadian relatives and mag yeah,

1279
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,720
so have. I have many many Canadian relatives and am

1280
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:54,680
very familiar with Western Canada. And you know, I don't

1281
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,960
think destabilizing is the term. I think an offer of stability.

1282
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:05,560
You know, the government of Canada is totally illegitimate and

1283
01:18:06,079 --> 01:18:10,640
the that you know, something has to be done. Do

1284
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,760
I think it's going to be done. I don't know.

1285
01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:16,039
I don't have a way of knowing. I literally believe

1286
01:18:16,079 --> 01:18:19,399
at this point that the biggest conflict there it's it

1287
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,760
would be multi national and it would be India v Canada,

1288
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:27,039
the United States or excuse me, India v China, like

1289
01:18:27,119 --> 01:18:31,000
for struggle of control over the place, because they kind

1290
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,199
of cool, which I advocate.

1291
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,039
Speaker 1: I have you see the other it's like the Chinese

1292
01:18:37,079 --> 01:18:38,560
Indian border disputes where.

1293
01:18:38,399 --> 01:18:40,399
Speaker 2: They're just wailing on each other. I was watching the

1294
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,800
video of that this morning.

1295
01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: Actually, that would be that would be so much fun.

1296
01:18:46,119 --> 01:18:48,199
Like we could give the Canadians hockey sticks they can

1297
01:18:48,279 --> 01:18:51,039
they can join into maybe like a like a Paul

1298
01:18:51,079 --> 01:18:53,720
Bunyan acts that seems to be in their character and

1299
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,840
just have a full on like you know, Mountain blade

1300
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,079
style melee.

1301
01:18:58,319 --> 01:19:02,239
Speaker 2: I mean lee En feel for the boys. Like there

1302
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:05,359
are so many lean fields and addicts and basements in

1303
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,239
Canada that and so like, and the only people that

1304
01:19:08,279 --> 01:19:09,840
have them are the white Canadians.

1305
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,319
Speaker 1: Right, everyone knows the real rifle of Canada is a

1306
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:14,760
Chinese skas.

1307
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I h yeah, there's that. They have some really

1308
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,319
cool Chinese stuff that we don't have. But yeah, so

1309
01:19:22,399 --> 01:19:24,359
it could be. It could be very entertaining. It could

1310
01:19:24,399 --> 01:19:25,319
be very entertaining.

1311
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I uh, I'll be honest. I watched

1312
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:35,960
those Uh sorry, I can't. I can't keep a straight

1313
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,960
face around you people. You're constantly distracting me.

1314
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:39,119
Speaker 2: Uh.

1315
01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: But every time I see those videos of those like

1316
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,840
masses of disorganized men like wailing on each other with

1317
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,640
like pikes and stuff and like baseball bats taped to

1318
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,920
broom handles, I just think, like, man, that looks funk.

1319
01:19:51,079 --> 01:19:54,319
Speaker 2: It does look fun. I mean, get get like get

1320
01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:57,720
your unit to actually form like a phoul ax. You

1321
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,560
would get with them one.

1322
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,319
Speaker 1: Like me and the boys are gonna be gone for

1323
01:20:03,319 --> 01:20:08,319
a little bit. We're gonna turtle conquer the India China border.

1324
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,119
But bike and shot actually no shot, I guess yeah,

1325
01:20:12,199 --> 01:20:12,960
just get out like.

1326
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: Uh, it has to be improvised. You have to sharpen

1327
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,119
your entrenching tool, which is actually a good weapon.

1328
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: Seems like a lot of fun. I don't know what

1329
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,800
they're complaining about. Like have you seen the meme Carl

1330
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,840
where it's like one of those like super airbrushed like

1331
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,199
hyper color illustrations of like a dolphin like leaping through

1332
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:35,479
the in with like a and it just says war

1333
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,640
before drones. You know, well there it is. You have

1334
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,600
war before gun power, right, just you and you and

1335
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,680
the boys, you know, getting a squad together, piece cut

1336
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,279
off ud like it sent me to like some random

1337
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,720
like high school in the South. I'll like get together

1338
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,119
like a few football teams and yeah, demolish.

1339
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,199
Speaker 2: Like you would annihilate them.

1340
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 1: Just give some like future D three offensive lineman, a

1341
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:06,680
baseball bat, a breastplate, a peaked helmet, and just tell

1342
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,079
them to come back with like thirteen ears on a

1343
01:21:09,159 --> 01:21:12,399
necklace and we'll be done by the afternoon.

1344
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 2: Right, my goodness, my goodness, Well.

1345
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: Dude, we are we have gone over time. This was

1346
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:21,560
a ton of fun, man, I know.

1347
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,119
Speaker 2: We have one more super chat?

1348
01:21:23,359 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: Oh we did I missed up? Oh yeah, Oh, that's

1349
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,960
why I was trying to move past it from uh

1350
01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:29,520
sangway and menacing.

1351
01:21:30,039 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: I agree on this one. By the way, burden.

1352
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: Baby, when working on it, did you convince your wife

1353
01:21:36,039 --> 01:21:38,319
on real children or if you still set on adopting

1354
01:21:38,319 --> 01:21:41,960
a pigmy dude, adopting you can just take them home.

1355
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,600
Like I don't do housework anymore. I've just got a

1356
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,319
bunch of midgets doing it for me. It's it's a

1357
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,600
ristocratic I'm sort of like a like a medieval baron.

1358
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1359
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 1: I have my dorbs. They sort of cavort and you know,

1360
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,760
amuse me while I eat like a chicken leg. Uh oh,

1361
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,600
check at for peep. Oh, you guys are being very

1362
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:59,880
generous and keeping me here.

1363
01:22:00,199 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1364
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: Uh Sean Schaeffer, real questions only which fallout New Vegas faction.

1365
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,199
But seriously, rip Scott Adams. Yeah, obviously sad to see

1366
01:22:09,279 --> 01:22:10,479
Scott Adams passing.

1367
01:22:11,039 --> 01:22:11,199
Speaker 2: Uh.

1368
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: I was never a you know, like a regular viewer

1369
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,960
of his stuff. But obviously he put himself out there

1370
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,319
and uh, you know, he took hits for what he believed,

1371
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,680
so you know I have to give him him credit

1372
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,760
for that and sounds like his you know, his books

1373
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,399
were very good. His comic was hilarious. Like he was,

1374
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,720
he was talented, and you know, go out on a

1375
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,159
limit sacrifice that like you have to give him, you

1376
01:22:33,159 --> 01:22:34,640
know what he's doing for that? Do you? Did you

1377
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,520
have any sort of more in depth relationship with Scott

1378
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,439
Adams or his work than that?

1379
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: Carl I used to troll him on GAB, but mostly

1380
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:49,399
about the JAB and sometimes I regret it a little bit.

1381
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:55,319
But he actually wrote some very good books about systematizing

1382
01:22:56,279 --> 01:23:00,000
your your thinking and operation and I had essentially done

1383
01:23:00,279 --> 01:23:04,840
learned to do that without him. But his summary and

1384
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,840
framing of stuff is very good. It's it's definitely worth

1385
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,560
reading if if you get a chance to.

1386
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, one more somewhat threatening message from why

1387
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,840
is ez seven? I keep lists for just such an occasion.

1388
01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:25,199
I'm not entirely sure what that's in reference to. I

1389
01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:28,359
endorse that keep and you're keeping your Pygmy lists or

1390
01:23:28,399 --> 01:23:33,760
maybe another one? Uh the boy it is? Yeah, thank

1391
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,000
you guys so much. This one was very generous. I

1392
01:23:36,039 --> 01:23:38,079
think I've said it before, but Carl gets half of these,

1393
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,520
so I'm not just sitting a mountain of gold here.

1394
01:23:42,119 --> 01:23:45,159
It's a small Mountain, but nonetheless no Max Pain. We

1395
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:47,560
have not attacked Iran yet. Although look it's it's a

1396
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,199
day now. I think I'm past selective service, So I mean,

1397
01:23:50,199 --> 01:23:51,039
I don't care anymore.

1398
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that's going to happen. It's

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not a problem, Yuh.

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Speaker 1: To quote the Boomers, I'll be dead by that, uh

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know it at all seriousness? Yeah, thank you guys so much.

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Check out Carl's work on Substack. There's some some good

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stuff there. Highly recommend it. His book by book two books,

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oh yeah, two actually and and the first one is

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shorter and it features uh subway surfer intermission. So for

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your uh you know, attention spend challenge viewers, you can

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you can you break up the monotony of reading words

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and sequence? Uh, obviously you know my stuff the Jay

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Burdons show. You know where to find me, guys. It

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was great to great to get back on. You're very generous,

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appreciate it, and we'll be back soon.