Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. It's about seven minutes past the hour of
Speaker 1: two o'clock. It is rainy, it is cold. We are
Speaker 1: in the midst of the beginning of one of the
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Speaker 1: on Friday and very chilly Saturday. It looks like it's
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Speaker 1: we have got a busy, jam packed show today with
Speaker 1: a lot of topics to get to. BYU with a very,
Speaker 1: very impressive win earlier this morning. Did you miss it?
Speaker 1: Did you know that the game was being played? I
Speaker 1: believe it tipped off at ten thirty Mountain time. BYU
Speaker 1: ran into a little good fortune as Iowa State found
Speaker 1: themselves a little bit banged up today. They were without
Speaker 1: Keyshawn Gilbert, who's their second leading scorer, and they were
Speaker 1: without the Lipsey kid, who's a two time All Big
Speaker 1: twelve point guard. So you could say two of their
Speaker 1: three best players did not play, So BYU a little
Speaker 1: fortunate to run into a short handed Iowa State team.
Speaker 1: But it was a high level basketball game. It was
Speaker 1: a high level basketball game played by both teams, and
Speaker 1: VYU most likely will advance to play Houston, but Colorado
Speaker 1: might have some different ideas. Now, I would be surprised
Speaker 1: if this holds up, but Colorado is hanging in against
Speaker 1: Houston right now. Houston has a thirty eight to thirty
Speaker 1: three halftime lead over Colorado. We'll see what the second
Speaker 1: half brings. There's a bevy of college basketball action going
Speaker 1: on right now. We will keep you up to date
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the show today. One of the
Speaker 1: big pieces of news that came down a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier is Cooper Flag left Duke's game with a It
Speaker 1: looked the replays look horrible, not gonna lie. But Duke
Speaker 1: beat Georgia Tech today seventy eight to seventy. They pulled
Speaker 1: away in the second half after Tech had a halftime
Speaker 1: lead and Cooper Flag sprained his ankle and upon replay
Speaker 1: it looked like it was gonna be really bad. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: John Shire, the Duke head coach, came out and said,
Speaker 1: the rays are negative, so hopefully Cooper Flag's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: Then we'll keep you up to date on all the
Speaker 1: basketball going on right now. As it is the madness
Speaker 1: of march on the Big twelve side of things. Like
Speaker 1: I said, Houston has a thirty eight to thirty three
Speaker 1: halftime lead over Colorado and the winner of that game
Speaker 1: will of dance on to play byu Utah Jazz with
Speaker 1: another loss last night, stop me if you've heard me before.
Speaker 1: And yes, they competed, they played hard, all the cute
Speaker 1: things were supposed to say. But they lost again. They've
Speaker 1: lost nine of their last ten. They've lost seven straight games.
Speaker 1: Grizzlies got them last night, one twenty two to one fifteen.
Speaker 1: The Jazz were actually up one fifteen to one fourteen,
Speaker 1: and then the Grizzly scored the final eight points of
Speaker 1: the game and the Jazz move on to yet another loss.
Speaker 1: Some more information has emerged about that one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars fine that the Jazz were handed yesterday for not
Speaker 1: playing lowry marketing for nine straight games, and Jazz have
Speaker 1: lost of ten, so of course sitting marketing to help
Speaker 1: them achieve their goal of playing pathetic basketball and continuing
Speaker 1: to lose. But some more information about how it all
Speaker 1: came down and then what could happen next if they
Speaker 1: continue to try to kind of play with this rule
Speaker 1: that the league implemented back in twenty ten as a
Speaker 1: result of Greg Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs constantly
Speaker 1: sitting their stars. So we'll get to some of that.
Speaker 1: The NFL free agency news is kind of quieted down
Speaker 1: a little bit today, but we do know which Utah
Speaker 1: football players will be participating in Big twelve NFL Day
Speaker 1: coming up March eighteen through the twenty first, So we
Speaker 1: do have that list. We'll bring that to you, and
Speaker 1: there's one name on the list that a little bit
Speaker 1: disappointing if it means what I think it means, and
Speaker 1: we'll get to that list coming up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Utah Hockey Club was able to get a win last
Speaker 1: night again against the Ducks. They're going to take on
Speaker 1: the Kraken coming up tomorrow at eight o'clock Mountain time.
Speaker 1: That game is up in Seattle, so Utah Hockey Club
Speaker 1: trying to hang in that wildcard race. RSL on the
Speaker 1: road coming up this weekend at Houston, a road tilt
Speaker 1: for RSL after a really really bad start to the season.
Speaker 1: And then Utah State in action tonight Mountain West tournament
Speaker 1: style against a really really good, upstart Vegas team. You know,
Speaker 1: if he's played a lot better as of late. Utah
Speaker 1: States the favorite, but we'll see what they're able to
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Speaker 1: Little college football with Big twelve Pro Day, Big twelve
Speaker 1: NFL Pro Day coming up in just about a week
Speaker 1: and a half, and several youth players will be represented,
Speaker 1: so we'll bring you that list coming up in a
Speaker 1: little bit. The latest on the Alex Jensen to Utah
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Speaker 1: Is Andre Miller high speed ahead to coming back to
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Speaker 1: Tony Jones. Tony covers the jazz in the NBA for
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Speaker 1: And when Tony joined us a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: it was the day that Mark Carlin had announced that
Speaker 1: he had relieved Craig Smith of his duties, and Tony
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Speaker 1: So we're bringing Tony today now that the news is official.
Speaker 1: We'll talk Alex Jensen of the Utes, and we will
Speaker 1: also get Tony's take on some of these young prospects
Speaker 1: that you guys can watch during March Madness to get
Speaker 1: a little bit more familiar as to why the Jazz
Speaker 1: are just doing what they're doing, which is unseeriously about
Speaker 1: winning to try to get a good pick. After Tony
Speaker 1: stops by, the last time we had Josh Grant on
Speaker 1: the show, our guy was very salient, He was very poignant,
Speaker 1: he was very honest. And now that Josh got his
Speaker 1: wish that Alex Jensen is high speed ahead to coach
Speaker 1: the Utes, what does he have to say today? He
Speaker 1: joins us after Tony stops by behind the Glass segment
Speaker 1: that we do every single week to talk some Utah
Speaker 1: Hockey Club and some many with Neil Smith, and then
Speaker 1: NBA Daily Assist style with one of the celebrity reporters
Speaker 1: that joins our show on a regular basis. He is
Speaker 1: Dave mcminnimon on a Thursday afternoon and talks some NBA
Speaker 1: kind of a lighter night in the NBA tonight last night,
Speaker 1: a couple of really fun games. OKC beat Boston and
Speaker 1: TD Garden and the Celtics did not play Christaps Porzingis,
Speaker 1: so we've got to kind of keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: But only five games in the NBA tonight, and that's
Speaker 1: really odd for a mid March tilt. The Lakers are
Speaker 1: in action, so we'll get with Dave about the latest.
Speaker 1: In Los Angeles. They're going to take on the Bucks,
Speaker 1: which should be a good game, and then Sacramento Golden
Speaker 1: State is your late game. Turner Sports has the double
Speaker 1: dip tonight, so at least we get a little inside
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Speaker 1: producer of this program, Porta Larson, on a rainy, chili
Speaker 1: cold Thursday afternoon. All right, how much of the madness? Like,
Speaker 1: if you want to, you can wake up, do the
Speaker 1: coffee thing, do the breakfast brito thing, and you can
Speaker 1: start watching hoops early. How early do you start watching
Speaker 1: the madness this time of year when it's conference championship?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried to. I try to get all the
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Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Of course some of them are are going to overlap,
Speaker 2: a little bit, but pretty much the second my eyes
Speaker 2: crack open, man, if there's conference basketball, if there's postseason
Speaker 2: basketball on the college or the pro side, it's going
Speaker 2: to be at least up and on the television in
Speaker 2: some form. So yeah, I've been dialed in tightly. And
Speaker 2: of course we had the early tip off with BYU
Speaker 2: and Action this morning. In the late late one with
Speaker 2: Utah State tonight the nightcapper, So it's literally Spence from
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Speaker 2: local college hoops tonight and hopefully, hey, maybe a few
Speaker 2: tickets punched to the Big Dance as.
Speaker 1: Well BYU is really good man. They are playing high
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Speaker 1: BYU and Iowa State this morning played a terrific basketball game.
Speaker 1: It was high level shot making in the first half.
Speaker 1: I was could not miss and BYU did a great
Speaker 1: job just to hang in because Curtis Jones was out
Speaker 1: of his mind. Now, Iowa State it was announced about
Speaker 1: I don't know two hours before tip that they were
Speaker 1: going to be without their second leading scorer in Keithshwan
Speaker 1: Gilbert and a two time All Big Twelve point guard,
Speaker 1: and Tami and Lipsei both those players sat. They're probably
Speaker 1: two of Iowa State's three best players, so Brigham Young
Speaker 1: with a little bit of good fortune, Iowa State essentially
Speaker 1: only played seven dudes. The Damerian Watson kid got five minutes,
Speaker 1: but Iowa State was unconscious in the first half, putting
Speaker 1: up fifty three, and Byu just kind of held the
Speaker 1: fork down and waited for their shot making to kind
Speaker 1: of manifest. Richie Saunders is playing his way into the
Speaker 1: conversation as the Big twelve Player of the year, and
Speaker 1: that's not hyperbolic. Richie was great, he was patient, He
Speaker 1: had twenty three points, he had five assists, and he
Speaker 1: kind of let the game. What I love about Richie
Speaker 1: is he doesn't force anything. He takes what the defense
Speaker 1: gives him. He's he's got good size for a shooting guard.
Speaker 1: He can elevate as a jump shooter, and he can
Speaker 1: get to the ten and finish with force, and he
Speaker 1: can guard two or three positions. I now believe Richie
Speaker 1: Saunders is an NBA player. I don't think I believe
Speaker 1: that to start the year. That had a really nice
Speaker 1: game from Kaba Cato who had ten boards and he
Speaker 1: had four offensive rebounds, four of eight from the floor,
Speaker 1: nine points, a couple of cadd dunks, as you would expect.
Speaker 1: Trevin Nell hit all four of his three point shots.
Speaker 1: Good to have some shot making that direction. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what though, Jegor Demon continues to struggle against pressure,
Speaker 1: and it's a good thing Byu has Dollon Hall as
Speaker 1: his backup because Byu had ten turnovers the entire game.
Speaker 1: Demon had four of them, and those four turnovers came
Speaker 1: in the first portion of the first half when I
Speaker 1: always stayed was intentionally pressuring him. I have to wonder
Speaker 1: if moving forward, because more likely than not, we'll keep
Speaker 1: you up to date on the game that's going on.
Speaker 1: BYU is about to play Houston in the semi finals.
Speaker 1: That game right now, Houston has a slight lead over
Speaker 1: Collar thirty eight to thirty three, and you know, my
Speaker 1: guess is Houston's gonna run away from them in the
Speaker 1: second half. We'll kind of keep you up to date there,
Speaker 1: but BYU is gonna most likely play Houston in the
Speaker 1: semi finals, and if they're not ready for that pressure.
Speaker 1: Like if Jeger is not ready for that pressure, Dallon's
Speaker 1: gonna have to play big minutes. Dallen was really good again.
Speaker 1: In twenty six minutes. He had seven assists and only
Speaker 1: one turnover. BYU taking care of the basketball last night
Speaker 1: like they did you know this morning, against a team
Speaker 1: with that type of pressure with only ten turnovers, to me,
Speaker 1: is the direct reason they won this basketball game. They
Speaker 1: made their free throws. They were eighteen of twenty one.
Speaker 1: They made fifty percent of their three point shots, which
Speaker 1: is eighteen of thirty six, shot fifty two percent from
Speaker 1: the floor, but Iowa State splits or nuts. They shot
Speaker 1: fifty six percent from the floor forty three percent from three.
Speaker 1: They only shot seven free throws, but they were shooting
Speaker 1: a lot of three point shots. The rebounding edge went
Speaker 1: to BYU, but only slightly, thirty one to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Brigham Young with twenty four assists, eight steals, four blocks,
Speaker 1: and only ten turnovers. That was a high quality basketball game,
Speaker 1: and while Iowa State was short handed, they gave BYU
Speaker 1: all they wanted. And now you know, we'll have to
Speaker 1: kind of wait and see it's another quad win for BYU.
Speaker 1: It's their ninth straight win overall, their fifth straight win
Speaker 1: over a ranked opponent. Recently two wins over Iowa State,
Speaker 1: one on the road, one on a neutral site. They
Speaker 1: dumped Truck Kansas, and they beat Arizona at McHale. This
Speaker 1: is as good of a BYU team, I think as
Speaker 1: we've had here since the Ford stuff. I know, the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty team was good, the team last year was good,
Speaker 1: but since since Jim Or and that Brandon Davies situation
Speaker 1: that unfortunately kind of derailed the whole thing, This to
Speaker 1: me is the most talented BYU basketball team that we've
Speaker 1: seen in probably eleven or twelve years, if not even
Speaker 1: more than that. They've got two NBA guys. By the way,
Speaker 1: kenon catching and Sat today again, I think he's missed
Speaker 1: six straight games or something. Dawson Baker with some good minutes,
Speaker 1: four assists, no turnovers, knocked down a three point shot.
Speaker 1: Stewart came in, played good defense, knocked down a couple
Speaker 1: of threes. The Boscovi this kid continues to improve as well.
Speaker 1: He's in double figures ten points, five rebounds, and BYU
Speaker 1: has a rollin. If you're a BYU fan, get yourself excited.
Speaker 1: They're playing the right way at the right time of year.
Speaker 1: And for Utah fans, you look at this stuff and
Speaker 1: you just go, when are we ever going to get
Speaker 1: back there? It's been since twenty sixteen since Utah has
Speaker 1: made the NCAA tournament. BYU is a lock to make it,
Speaker 1: and as they continue to evolve, can they get a
Speaker 1: top four seed in the tournament? The only time will tell.
Speaker 1: The latest bracketology still has them on the five line,
Speaker 1: but BYU marches on to the Big twelve semi finals
Speaker 1: where they're most likely got to take on Houston, who
Speaker 1: right now has a forty two to thirty three lead
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Speaker 1: Right out of the gates man Lucky us. First guest
Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon, Tony Jones from the Athletic covers
Speaker 1: a well these days a number of different things. In fact, Tony,
Speaker 1: how would you characterize your current role with our friends
Speaker 1: at the Athletic.
Speaker 4: I'm on award door with like in my hand.
Speaker 1: Like currently, what do you like? Currently? It seems like
Speaker 1: they're using you in a bunch of different ways. So
Speaker 1: what's the gig currently, Tony.
Speaker 4: Well, right now I'm with Denver, so I'll be with
Speaker 4: Denver for the rest of the year. The Jazz are
Speaker 4: tanking and Philly is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, indeed, yes, indeed. Now, speaking of the
Speaker 1: Jazz tanking, yesterday during the show, news drops Tony that
Speaker 1: the Jazz have been fined one hundred thousand dollars directly
Speaker 1: for sitting lowry marketing, and new information has kind of
Speaker 1: emerged where you know, he sat nine straight games. There
Speaker 1: was some inconsistency I suppose on the injury report. I
Speaker 1: guess some team personnel said some things that the report
Speaker 1: said other things. I can understand why Jazz fans would
Speaker 1: be a little a little bit confused, Tony, because every
Speaker 1: night teams are sitting players. But what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this and have you been able to uncover exactly
Speaker 1: how this all went down?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean the thoughts on it are who cares?
Speaker 4: I mean, like, the Jazz have a singular goal in mind,
Speaker 4: and you know, honestly, if they get anywhere in the
Speaker 4: top three of this draft, they're going to be fine
Speaker 4: in terms of getting you know, a dynamic draft prospect.
Speaker 4: So if they have to incur the six figure fine
Speaker 4: to do it, and you know, it comes out of
Speaker 4: all it comes out of Ryan Smith's pockets. I don't
Speaker 4: want to pocket watch anybody but anything. But you know,
Speaker 4: my guess is that one hundred thousand dollars to Ryan
Speaker 4: Smith is not very much money. You know, the end
Speaker 4: justifies for me in that sense. So you know, I
Speaker 4: think Jazz fans. I think Jazz fans and frustration stems
Speaker 4: from this, and you know it's because of the infrastructure
Speaker 4: of the NBA. You know, how can the Jazz team
Speaker 4: build right? So it's hard to team build. It's hard
Speaker 4: to team build fundamentally through free agency because it's hard
Speaker 4: for a small market light you know, Salt Lake City
Speaker 4: or or the Jazz no matter how you know good
Speaker 4: the infrastructure of the team is to attract free agents
Speaker 4: or elite free agents or elite elite free agents, the
Speaker 4: kind of free agents that are programmed changing the trade market.
Speaker 4: At this point, it's hard for the Jazz to put,
Speaker 4: you know, all of the picks together to trade for
Speaker 4: let's just say, for for sake of argument, with Luka
Speaker 4: Dancic or Gianna Santetecunpo or whoever. They tried to trade
Speaker 4: for Drew Holliday, they tried to trade for Michel Bridges.
Speaker 4: You know, the politics behind the scenes. You know, Nick's
Speaker 4: at least one of those trades. And by that trade,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the Drew Holiday trade because you know
Speaker 4: they were right there for Drew Holliday and Drew you know,
Speaker 4: and they were told that Drew Holliday wants to go
Speaker 4: to Boston. So it's hard to trade, you know, for
Speaker 4: elite guys as well. So now you know the jazz
Speaker 4: of finding out that the one avenue of really getting
Speaker 4: the guy on the roster is by going through the draft.
Speaker 4: And you know now that they're doing what they have
Speaker 4: to do, the good, the bad, the ugly in terms
Speaker 4: in terms of having to go through the draft. You know,
Speaker 4: the NBA has stepped in again and you know, find them,
Speaker 4: you know, one hundred thousand dollars, so you know, by
Speaker 4: the letter of the law is correct. Larry market and
Speaker 4: is has a star designation because he made the All
Speaker 4: Star team in twenty twenty three, so you know he
Speaker 4: he's not a guy you know by the NBA that
Speaker 4: designation that you know just can be sitting out games
Speaker 4: to sit out games, but it's still frustrating on some levels,
Speaker 4: you know. But like I said, you know, the Jazz
Speaker 4: will do it, you know, three or four times over
Speaker 4: again if that means getting Cooper Flag or Dylan Harper.
Speaker 1: So excuse me. A second offense, they'll be fine two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand. A third offense is one point
Speaker 1: two mill and then every offense after that is a
Speaker 1: million dollars on top of the one point twenty five.
Speaker 1: So the Jazz got wise pretty quick. About five minutes
Speaker 1: after the fine was announced, they announced Lowry was playing
Speaker 1: last night, and then the entire team wore headbands. So
Speaker 1: I believe that was because of Isaiah. I think I
Speaker 1: heard Lauren Green say Isaiah Collier took out his braids
Speaker 1: last night and then he needed to wear a headband,
Speaker 1: so the entire team decided to do that. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people were wondering Tony if they were protesting,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that was the headband story.
Speaker 4: Right, No, I wasn't a protest. It was definitely it
Speaker 4: was definitely Isaiah call you thing, you know, Isaiah waterheadband
Speaker 4: and didn't. And then one of the teammates wore headband.
Speaker 4: I forget which one, and then everybody just decided to
Speaker 4: wear a headband. But it was fun watching Kyle Philipowski
Speaker 4: wear a headband because he's got perfect hair, and you know,
Speaker 4: to see the hair kind of flying under the headband,
Speaker 4: you know, as you flying, you know through the lane
Speaker 4: of dunk, you know, and stuff like that. That was
Speaker 4: kind of fun as well. And it was kind of
Speaker 4: fun watching Lowry wear a headband as well.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture a young TJ running point back
Speaker 1: in the day. I'm thinking, like maybe a Bonzie Wells type. Look,
Speaker 1: were you a headband guy at all back in the day?
Speaker 4: I never want I've never once to my entire basketball
Speaker 4: career warhead band.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I is that because it didn't look good or
Speaker 1: you didn't want to.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm too pretty for that. I didn't even know
Speaker 4: her bath.
Speaker 1: Red Hot Lover Tone makes his reappearance on the Drive
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. I gotta love that, man, gotta love that,
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, I know that we have done this before,
Speaker 1: but let's revisit it because I think, you know, jazz
Speaker 1: fans clearly understand the deal, even if they don't like it.
Speaker 1: They know what the deal is. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: some of these prospects that the Jazz are hoping to land,
Speaker 1: and we'll just start at the top now. Cooper Flag
Speaker 1: left Duke's win today with a sprained ankle. John Shire said,
Speaker 1: X rays are negative. And I think since you and
Speaker 1: I last spoke, Tony, Cooper has really separated himself even more.
Speaker 1: And we'll get to Dylan and Ace and everybody else.
Speaker 1: But for Jazz fans, they keep hearing the name Cooper
Speaker 1: Flag as they continue to tank to lose on purpose.
Speaker 1: What sort of player is he and what would he
Speaker 1: mean to the Jazz if they can grab him?
Speaker 4: Well, I will say this, he he made a couple
Speaker 4: of of real He's got a couple of real accomplishments
Speaker 4: this year. You know, you could still be the number
Speaker 4: one player in the draft and not be the best
Speaker 4: college basketball player in the country. Cooper Flag is the
Speaker 4: best college basketball player in the country by miles and
Speaker 4: miles and miles and miles and miles. He's had as
Speaker 4: good a freshman year as any kid that I've seen,
Speaker 4: uh in the last ten years. I think he's had
Speaker 4: a better freshman year than than even Zion Williamson did
Speaker 4: back in twenty eighteen. You know, every so often the
Speaker 4: kid comes along and it's playing college basketball, and you're
Speaker 4: looking at that kid and you watch him play and
Speaker 4: you think to yourself, he's wasting his time playing college basketball.
Speaker 4: He's too good for this level. And Cooper Flag is
Speaker 4: too good for this level. He's you know, six foot nine,
Speaker 4: he can guard, you know, throughout a lineup. His on
Speaker 4: ball skills have improved exponentially over the season. Over the
Speaker 4: course of the season, he's you know, figuring out ways
Speaker 4: to get a shot off. He's playing the spots.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: He affects, you know, a game on almost every and
Speaker 4: on almost every possession on both ends of the floor.
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, he's a guy that I
Speaker 4: that that's going to be a perennial All Star in
Speaker 4: this league. I think you're going to get him into
Speaker 4: two NBA spacing. And you know, truthfully, you know, I
Speaker 4: said this earlier in the college basketball season, and you know,
Speaker 4: I was kind of flaming for it a little bit
Speaker 4: on Twitter. But I'll say it again, and I believe
Speaker 4: it now more than even more than I believe that
Speaker 4: when I said it in November. He reminds me a
Speaker 4: ton of Kawhi Leonard. That's who he reminds me of.
Speaker 4: He reminds me of a young Kawhi Leonard. And and
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see what his journey is because
Speaker 4: I think that he's a guy that can be a
Speaker 4: very significant player at the NBA level.
Speaker 1: All right, excuse me, let's kind of go down the
Speaker 1: list a little bit. If the Jazz do not get
Speaker 1: the luck that we're all hoping they get and they
Speaker 1: snag number one, let's say they fall to two. It
Speaker 1: feels like most of the consensus is Dylan Dylan Harper.
Speaker 1: He's got a teammate for Rutgers named Ace Bailey, who
Speaker 1: will get to in a moment. But let's start with
Speaker 1: your thoughts for Jazz fans. If they don't get Cooper
Speaker 1: and they fall to number two, do you feel like
Speaker 1: it's Dylan Harper? And if so, what kind of player
Speaker 1: is he?
Speaker 4: No, it would definitely be Dylan Harper if the Jazz
Speaker 4: fall to number two. You know, he's a guy that
Speaker 4: you know, plays a little bit like Shay gives with
Speaker 4: Alexander in terms of the pace that he plays at.
Speaker 4: He you know, he knows angles He's a six or five,
Speaker 4: six or six left handed point guard, scores it all
Speaker 4: three levels, really understands the game, you know, uh, from
Speaker 4: an IQ level at a high level.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: He's the son of Ron Harper. Uh, so we know
Speaker 4: how Jazz stands still about those Bulls teams, so that
Speaker 4: that would be fun. But he's you know, like I said,
Speaker 4: he's left handed. He's a terrific, terrific pick and role player.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Plays the game in his own pace. You know, it
Speaker 4: doesn't get sped up, which is really rare for a
Speaker 4: kid his age, and you know, knows how to to
Speaker 4: play the angles, and he knows how to play the spots.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: He's a He's a guy that you know, I also
Speaker 4: think can be a really significant player in this league.
Speaker 4: I don't think, you know, I think that Cooper flag
Speaker 4: Is is in his uh on his own island as
Speaker 4: a prospect in his draft. But I also think that
Speaker 4: Dylan Harper is also on his own island as the
Speaker 4: second best prospect of his draft.
Speaker 1: So then we move over to Dylan's teammate. And it's
Speaker 1: just wild that Rutgers has two of the top three
Speaker 1: NBA players and they've had a very subpar season. So
Speaker 1: recently Dylan missed some time, was out for a few games,
Speaker 1: and so Ace Bailey. In one of the games Dylan
Speaker 1: was out, Ace put up thirty. And the more and
Speaker 1: more you watch Ace Bailey, the more and more you
Speaker 1: like him. And he's all sorts of six'. Ten he's
Speaker 1: every bit of six.' ten it feels like he's locked
Speaker 1: in At. Three tony so If the jazz remain where,
Speaker 1: they are they will be in the. Bottom, three therefore
Speaker 1: they'll have a fourteen, percent chance like the other, two
Speaker 1: teams to grab the number one. Overall pick so we've already.
Speaker 1: Talked one now we move, To two so let's move.
Speaker 1: To three If the jazz fall, to three do you
Speaker 1: Feel like ace is? The pick and, if so what
Speaker 1: sort of prospect does He.
Speaker 4: Could jazz get the? Three pick that that pick will
Speaker 4: be What the jets do is a lot a lot
Speaker 4: more ambiguous than what they would do at number one and.
Speaker 4: NUMBER two i think that if, they obviously if they get,
Speaker 4: number one they're gonna Get take cooper. Number two i'm
Speaker 4: ninety percent sure that They'll Take. Dylan harper if they get,
Speaker 4: NUMBER three i don't know who they're going to TAKE
Speaker 4: because I think i think that, you know the organization
Speaker 4: is a lot more torn on a, spelly than, you
Speaker 4: know than they are on the. First two and, YOU
Speaker 4: know i would agree with. THE organization i think that
Speaker 4: there are real positives and negatives towards Taking. As bailey and, you,
Speaker 4: KNOW truthfully i, really really really really really Like, dj
Speaker 4: ashkhim the Kid from baylor. As well and, you KNOW
Speaker 4: so i, think that, you know it would be, you
Speaker 4: know kind of a photo finish to who would be
Speaker 4: the number three guy? For Me now i'll say This With.
Speaker 4: Ace bailey, YOU know i look at, the positives. THE
Speaker 4: positives i don't think think there's a better shot maker
Speaker 4: in the draft in, terms of, you know in terms of,
Speaker 4: contested shots taking, contested shots making. Contested, shots obviously he like,
Speaker 4: you said he's every bit of six. Or ten he's
Speaker 4: going to score at some point in. His career he's
Speaker 4: going to score, twenty five twenty eight points the game
Speaker 4: over the course of an.
Speaker 5: Entire season.
Speaker 4: So we know that the kid can put the ball in,
Speaker 4: the basket super athletic for, his size, you know can
Speaker 4: really get above the rim and play above. The rim and,
Speaker 4: you KNOW and i think. HE tries i think he,
Speaker 4: tries DEFENSIVELY and i think, that that's, you know SOMETHING
Speaker 4: that i like about him. As well the, problem is
Speaker 4: you know that twenty five to twenty eight points per
Speaker 4: game that he's going to score at whatever point in,
Speaker 4: his career whether it, be two, three seasons, three seasons,
Speaker 4: four seasons it's going to come on forty shooting from,
Speaker 4: the field and it's going to come on about thirty
Speaker 4: to thirty two percent shooting from from three. Point range
Speaker 4: he's never going to be an effishing kid because he
Speaker 4: takes a ton of, difficult SHOTS and i mean a
Speaker 4: ton of, difficult shots and he takes a ton of.
Speaker 4: Bad shots he takes a ton of shots from from
Speaker 4: eighteen to twenty feet to where he should just, step
Speaker 4: back uh two or three feet and, take three or
Speaker 4: he should figure out a way to get into the
Speaker 4: lane to where his athletics isn't gonna work. For him
Speaker 4: the problem is that he doesn't handle the ball very
Speaker 4: well for, his size and you know that's why, you
Speaker 4: know when you see, social media you see, you know
Speaker 4: Comparisons To Michael. Porter junior so, you know people. Like
Speaker 4: that so it's going to be interesting to see how
Speaker 4: he develops, his game whether he stays the same player
Speaker 4: as he, is now or whether he figures out a
Speaker 4: way to become a better player than he. Is now
Speaker 4: his swing skill for me is going to be his.
Speaker 4: Ball handling if he can figure out a way to
Speaker 4: get more dynamic off the dribble to where he can
Speaker 4: actually start beating people off, the dribble then his efficiency
Speaker 4: is going to is going to be better. For it
Speaker 4: the other question for me is whether he's a small
Speaker 4: forward or whether he's a, shooting guard which is actually
Speaker 4: a good, thing because like, you said he's six, foot ten,
Speaker 4: you know so he's not a. Basketball kid he's not a.
Speaker 4: Shy kid any other thing for me is he never
Speaker 4: passes the ball like he's he's. Cam whit more like
Speaker 4: in the fact that, you know he doesn't really passed,
Speaker 4: the ball. You know so he's got he's got hold
Speaker 4: real holes in, his game and he's got real, you
Speaker 4: know positives and negatives to his game to where to
Speaker 4: where his. Talent level his talent level dictates that he
Speaker 4: should probably be the third best player in, this draft
Speaker 4: but there are enough holds in his games to where
Speaker 4: to where there's a serious question.
Speaker 5: Is that.
Speaker 1: Excuse me one more jazz. Thing tone then we'll move
Speaker 1: on to your thoughts Now That alex jensen is officially
Speaker 1: the dead coach Of. The utes Our Friend sarah todd
Speaker 1: from The desertt news stopped by the show yesterday and
Speaker 1: she wrote a really, good piece but it was also
Speaker 1: pretty depressing for. Jazz fans where. Paraphrasing here she described
Speaker 1: the past three years as a tear down and essentially
Speaker 1: was implying that the rebuild is really, beginning now if not.
Speaker 1: Next year and her, assertion IS and i want to
Speaker 1: see if. You agree Even If lady luck shines on
Speaker 1: the jazz and they Grab a, cooper flag next year
Speaker 1: most likely will feel and look a lot like this
Speaker 1: year did for. Jazz fans what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4: On, that oh she's. Absolutely right you know the, jazz thought,
Speaker 4: you know and we talked about this earlier in, this
Speaker 4: conversation you know a little. Bit indirectly, you know the jazz, Were,
Speaker 4: like okay we have this real collection. Of picks let's
Speaker 4: make some trades and let's get some significant guys. In
Speaker 4: here and they found out that they weren't able to
Speaker 4: do that because, you know there are a lot of
Speaker 4: politics being played behind. The scenes so, you know you
Speaker 4: had To Trade, mike conley had to Tread With, leak
Speaker 4: beasley had to get a lot of the veterans off.
Speaker 4: The roster there's still a lot of veterans on. The
Speaker 4: roster john cond is still on. The Roster jordan clarkson
Speaker 4: is still on. The roster. You know so there's still
Speaker 4: veterans on. The roster and this is the first year
Speaker 4: of the rebuild Because the, jazz realized, all right we're
Speaker 4: just gonna have to do this through. The draft so
Speaker 4: this is this is, year one and, YOU know i
Speaker 4: don't even think. IT'S depressing i don't think it's the.
Speaker 4: Depressing thing what they're doing right now is putting themselves
Speaker 4: in position to get the best player in. The draft
Speaker 4: and whatever happens with those, lottery balls whether They get
Speaker 4: COOPER flag dj Ask Them, Eighth Barey, dylan, harper Whoever Kan, kin,
Speaker 4: Nipple Whoever, trey, johnson whoever they should one hundred turn
Speaker 4: around to do the exact same thing.
Speaker 5: Next year.
Speaker 4: And that is because next year's draft class is one
Speaker 4: of the best draft classes at the top of the
Speaker 4: DRAFT that i have. Ever seen You Have. Daron peterson You,
Speaker 4: have ajdabansa and you have and You Have, cameron boozer
Speaker 4: and You Have. Kareem lopez you have four guys that
Speaker 4: project as franchise guys in. This draft there's one Guy That's.
Speaker 4: Cooper flat there are four guys in next year's draft
Speaker 4: that project projected as as potential. Franchise GUYS and i
Speaker 4: think That the jazz should figure out a way to
Speaker 4: get whoever they can in this, year's draft and then
Speaker 4: figure out a way to get one of those four
Speaker 4: guys in next, year's draft and then go try to
Speaker 4: be good because you'll have, you know two potentially really
Speaker 4: dynamic guys on the roster That the jazz have figured
Speaker 4: out that the only way for them to get the
Speaker 4: guy onto, the roster like the, guy guy is to
Speaker 4: do it through. The draft and they have a golden
Speaker 4: opportunity to get two of. Those guys, You know so
Speaker 4: whatever happens with this, year's draft it is my belief
Speaker 4: that they should turn around and do the exact same
Speaker 4: thing next year and get one of those guys in
Speaker 4: the twenty sixth draft, and then, you know, whatever happens,
Speaker 4: go ahead, be good be good. Right away maybe, you
Speaker 4: know here's. The thing maybe They Get. Cooper flag and
Speaker 4: if You Have cooper Flag And walk Kessler and lowry,
Speaker 4: market in, you know maybe you're good. Right away, you
Speaker 4: know my my suspicion is you're probably not good right
Speaker 4: AWAY because i think that there's the roster really needs some.
Speaker 4: Guard play and if there's guard PLAY that i don't
Speaker 4: think that's currently on. The roster but, you know you
Speaker 4: could do a lot worse as a front court AT
Speaker 4: the nba Level Than, Cooper Flag, Walker kessler lowry. Marketing
Speaker 4: In and i'm Gonna Throw kyle philipowski in there too,
Speaker 4: as WELL because i think that he's a, terrific talent. You,
Speaker 4: know so but if, you can if You're, the jazz
Speaker 4: you should go and get trying to get one of
Speaker 4: those four guys in the twenty sixth draft.
Speaker 1: As well, all right moving over now to the news
Speaker 1: that YOU and i discussed a couple of, weeks Ago
Speaker 1: and i've said it on the show a. Few times
Speaker 1: You Dropped alex jensen's name the Day that craig decided
Speaker 1: to move on or cheat Me that mark decided to
Speaker 1: move On From. Craig smith and now. It's Reality, alex
Speaker 1: jensen the seventeenth head Coach in utah men's. Basketball, history
Speaker 1: tony what's your reaction and how do you think he's
Speaker 1: going to go about filling out? That, BENCH.
Speaker 4: Yeah I mean i, think that, YOU know i think
Speaker 4: that the the you needed to, you know it's so
Speaker 4: cliche about winning the, press conference but in, THIS sense
Speaker 4: i really think that they needed to hire somebody that
Speaker 4: was going to win the. Press Conference And alex jensen
Speaker 4: is going to win the. Press conference now we'll see
Speaker 4: what happens after he wins the, press conference but he's
Speaker 4: certainly going to win the. Press conference and the REASON
Speaker 4: why i say this, is because, you know that program
Speaker 4: needs somebody at the top of it that every that that,
Speaker 4: has belief real belief you know within the, fan base
Speaker 4: real belief from, the players real belief from, the administration
Speaker 4: and real belief from the people who write. The checks and,
Speaker 4: you know one of the biggest Reasons Why craig smith
Speaker 4: is no. Longer HERE and i think that he is a.
Speaker 4: Terrific COACH and i still think he's a. TERRIFIC coach
Speaker 4: i thought he was Terrific At. UTAH state i think
Speaker 4: he's really good at the actual. Coaching part but one
Speaker 4: of the reasons why he is no longer here is
Speaker 4: because he lost belief within the people who write, the
Speaker 4: Checks and alex is going to have.
Speaker 5: That belief.
Speaker 4: Is my belief that, You know, alex is, you know
Speaker 4: one of the best player development guys that You know.
Speaker 4: I'VE seen i saw Him work Wonders With. RUDY gobert
Speaker 4: i Saw worked Wonders in Dallas With. Derek lively, you
Speaker 4: know he's really he really knows hows has developed the
Speaker 4: guys that he, works with whether they, be bigs whether whether.
Speaker 4: OR not, I mean i know that he gets a
Speaker 4: lot of credit for for, developing bigs but, you know
Speaker 4: big aren't the only people that he's that he's developed
Speaker 4: over over his time as. A, coach so, YOU know
Speaker 4: i think that he's definitely had that going. For him,
Speaker 4: you know what he has, to do in my eyes,
Speaker 4: to me is figure out a way to gain a
Speaker 4: foothold on the local. RECRUITING scene i think the State,
Speaker 4: of utah the class of twenty twenty six is probably
Speaker 4: one of the best high school classes in the last
Speaker 4: twenty years to come out in, this state particularly. Among guards,
Speaker 4: you KNOW so i think that he's got to get
Speaker 4: a foothold on, the local on the. Local guys and,
Speaker 4: you know we'll see how he. Fills out we'll see
Speaker 4: how he fills out. His STAFF and i believe that
Speaker 4: he's going to have a lot of nil money to
Speaker 4: go after. Real DUKES and i think that he's going
Speaker 4: to go after real dudes because he's going to have
Speaker 4: the ammunition financially to be able to.
Speaker 1: Do so, all right tell him last Thing and i'll set.
Speaker 1: YOU loose byu little bit fortunate today to Run Into,
Speaker 1: iowa state who was without two of their three best
Speaker 1: Players In Keith shawn gilbert And the Tammy and. Lipsei
Speaker 1: kid he's Been all big. Twelve twice that was a
Speaker 1: high level. Basketball Game and BYU's now won. Ninth straight
Speaker 1: they've got Wins, Over, arizona McHale they Dump trucked Kansas,
Speaker 1: and provo and They Beat iowa. State twice this to
Speaker 1: me is THE best byu Team that i've seen play
Speaker 1: Since the. Furdet stuff and when you look at the
Speaker 1: roster top, TO bottom i think this roster is more
Speaker 1: talented than Any team dave Had when jimmer. Was here that's.
Speaker 1: My opinion what is their ceiling as they continue to
Speaker 1: play like this looks like they're going to Run in
Speaker 1: houston IN. THE semis i don't know that they can
Speaker 1: get past the, five line but they continue to. Play
Speaker 1: well so your thoughts on what You Think brigham young
Speaker 1: can do come. Tournament time.
Speaker 4: So that twenty eleven team would have gone to the.
Speaker 4: Final Four Have brandon davis been not been suspended or
Speaker 4: what was? He suspended or was? He inevitable?
Speaker 1: He was he was he was encouraged to take some
Speaker 1: time off after a honor code violation. WAS uncovered I
Speaker 1: think i'll leave.
Speaker 4: It, There yeah i'm still kind of heated. About that.
Speaker 1: For sure, it's wild but, you know that's the gal.
Speaker 4: DOWN there i knew that kid really well from covering
Speaker 4: high Schools And brandon david was one of the. Best
Speaker 4: guys well he's not a, kid anymore but you know
Speaker 4: he's he's. Terrific, PERSON anyway. I digress that team would
Speaker 4: have gone to the final four in, my Opinion have brandon,
Speaker 4: BEEN there i would say that THIS is i don't
Speaker 4: know IF it's i don't know if it's the most
Speaker 4: talented team at. The top because that twenty eleven Team
Speaker 4: had Gimmer. AND brandon, i mean those are two, you
Speaker 4: know long, time pros. You know, but THIS this dye
Speaker 4: team right now is certainly the deepest Team that i've
Speaker 4: seen in the, most balanced, you know and it's a two,
Speaker 4: way team by, the way like it's, you know A
Speaker 4: lot there are a lot OF d. Yu teams, you
Speaker 4: know they put the ball in, the basket but they
Speaker 4: can't defend you. Or me this. Team defends this team
Speaker 4: is more athletic than. They look i'm sorry to, be
Speaker 4: cliche but they're tough. As, Hell uh, they're nasty. You
Speaker 4: know uh they, you know they have bookend the booking
Speaker 4: bigs Inside with Trori And Cada. Gallum hall. You know,
Speaker 4: You know i've loved him since he Was at freemont as. A,
Speaker 4: player uh he's, one of, you know My favorite he's
Speaker 4: one of my favorite players in. COLLEGE basketball i don't
Speaker 4: think he's one of the best players in, college BASKETBALL
Speaker 4: but i think he's one of. My favorites and, you,
Speaker 4: Know Quietly, richie saunders, TO me i think is playing
Speaker 4: himself into having a chance to play IN the nba in.
Speaker 4: Some capacity. You know so, you know they have a lot.
Speaker 4: Of guys, You know i'm really impressed with the Developments
Speaker 4: Of trey stewart uh into, you know a, key guy.
Speaker 4: Especially defensively he has some big, Plays. Today, TREVOR now,
Speaker 4: i mean they just have guy after guy, after guy and,
Speaker 4: you KNOW and i think. IT'S good i don't think
Speaker 4: that their matchup proof in the IN the, ncaa tournament so,
Speaker 4: You know i'd like to see what. Their DRAWS but
Speaker 4: i do think that if they get the, correct draw
Speaker 4: they can go a long way in. THE tournament i
Speaker 4: STILL have ptsd from, you know them going out in
Speaker 4: the first round. LAST year i do think that they're a,
Speaker 4: lot better uh this time around than they were. Last
Speaker 4: YEAR and i don't think that they're going to go
Speaker 4: out in the. First round but, You know i'll, SAY
Speaker 4: this i think that they're one of the most dangerous
Speaker 4: teams in. The COUNTRY and i would not be shocked
Speaker 4: if They beat.
Speaker 1: Houston tomorrow who predicting a Win. Against houston that's something,
Speaker 1: that's uh that's, that's, tough man but.
Speaker 5: Be shocked.
Speaker 1: Just, now, look man there they deserve all the credit in.
Speaker 1: The world they played. Really Well tom thanks for, the.
Speaker 1: TIME brother i misbeable, the CLOCK so i gotta set,
Speaker 1: you loose but let's catch. Up, Soon, okay, yes sir.
Speaker 4: Appreciate You tony jones does.
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Speaker 1: don't try to. Get cute you'll get LOST like i
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Speaker 1: Lake city. All right our next guest one of the
Speaker 1: best to ever do it At the University. Of utah
Speaker 1: on the, Basketball Side josh grant joined us not too,
Speaker 1: long Ago, And josh i've got a lead off with
Speaker 1: whether or not you got as much feedback about your
Speaker 1: interview on this SHOW as.
Speaker 6: I did i actually did get a lot, of feedback
Speaker 6: and a lot of people are we're really excited about
Speaker 6: the direction of. College basketball, BUT truly i really appreciate
Speaker 6: you having me back on AGAIN so i can kind
Speaker 6: of clear my name from that massacre that came at
Speaker 6: the Hands Of. BRITTAIN johnson.
Speaker 1: I was i was Wondering if brit, YOU know, i mean,
Speaker 1: you know britt he's tongue in cheek and obviously he
Speaker 1: was being a little. Bit FACETIOUS but i, was wondering
Speaker 1: if You heard brit go at you a, little bit
Speaker 1: so the floor, Is yours josh go?
Speaker 6: At him HOW can i not hear? That guy he's.
Speaker 5: So, LOUD no i mean He's not and talked about
Speaker 5: how we're such. Good.
Speaker 6: Friends man the old adage is of friends.
Speaker 5: Like that who?
Speaker 4: Needs enemies, but no he's.
Speaker 6: A character he's a funny guy and we have. Been friends,
Speaker 6: he's been, you know busting my CHOP since i dated
Speaker 6: his sister when he was, about FIVE and i think
Speaker 6: he WAS a byu fan at. The time, but no
Speaker 6: he's a, good guy a. Good friend he just has,
Speaker 6: no filter even you know His brother JEFF as i was,
Speaker 6: texting him what the heck is your brother saying? About
Speaker 6: Me and jeff even, said that, you know he's a.
Speaker 6: Loose cannon nobody can, control him so you just got
Speaker 6: to take it for what.
Speaker 4: It is he's.
Speaker 6: A GOOFBALL but i do have ONE thing i have
Speaker 6: to say, about him when he was Talking about alex
Speaker 6: being a coach on the floor and he Would grab
Speaker 6: britt by the jersey and scream in. His face it's
Speaker 6: not Totally because alex is. A coach It's because alex
Speaker 6: Knew that britton did not even listen to what coach
Speaker 6: had just said in the time out or in the
Speaker 6: whole week, of preparation and so he was trying to
Speaker 6: make sure he was at the right place at the.
Speaker 6: Right time britain has a. LITTLE adhd i think he
Speaker 6: can't really concentrate.
Speaker 1: That well we got a little ute Legend On Nute
Speaker 1: legend crime Here With josh Grant And. Britton johnson, But,
Speaker 1: nonetheless josh your wish has, been GRANTED and i will
Speaker 1: give you the credit because you were the FIRST guests
Speaker 1: i had on the show who said this job should Go.
Speaker 1: To alex so now that it, IS official i just
Speaker 1: want to know your reaction and if you could share
Speaker 1: with us the reaction of people that kind of live
Speaker 1: in your cul, de sac in. Your community how are
Speaker 1: people feeling?
Speaker 6: ABOUT it i think that first, OF all i was
Speaker 6: so HAPPY when i Finally, heard okay it's a. Done
Speaker 6: deal there's always going to be some bumps in the
Speaker 6: road and some concerns and things. Like that BUT once
Speaker 6: i heard that the contract's, been signed. EVERYTHING'S good i was.
Speaker 6: A static i Think that alex is going to do
Speaker 6: such a. GOOD job i think he's just such a
Speaker 6: good person and that good. Thoughtful person he's going to
Speaker 6: be the same way as. A coach he's going to
Speaker 6: get the most out of, his players he's going to,
Speaker 6: recruit intelligently and he's going to build a. Culture HERE
Speaker 6: and i firmly believe that all those Things that i've
Speaker 6: just mentioned are in a spreadsheet in, his head and each,
Speaker 6: one has, you know each cell is filled with an
Speaker 6: idea of how he thinks it. Will work he's just
Speaker 6: very thorough and just, very thoughtful And so i'm. Very
Speaker 6: PLEASED and i think the whole community is People that i've,
Speaker 6: talked to there's just an Air In Salt lake city
Speaker 6: And in utdom that people are just. Really excited for the.
Speaker 6: FIRST time i haven't seen people this excited for a really.
Speaker 6: LONG time i mean it's been it's really been twenty
Speaker 6: years that people as a whole have just been really
Speaker 6: excited about what's going to happen in the potential of
Speaker 6: what is in.
Speaker 1: The future are you excuse me finding a little sign of, Chest,
Speaker 1: thing josha bear. With me are you aware of how
Speaker 1: this process? Went, down like do you know if This
Speaker 1: was mark's one and only target or are you aware
Speaker 1: of whether Or Not mark carlin interviewed multiple candidates before Landing.
Speaker 1: On alex.
Speaker 6: FROM as i understand it and was told, it was
Speaker 6: the decision was made that we need change Directions from
Speaker 6: craig and that they were gonna let him go a little.
Speaker 6: Bit early and part of the purpose was we need
Speaker 6: to build a relationship with our players because there's some
Speaker 6: good players on, this team and also they wanted to
Speaker 6: just jump right on the Fact that alex was their number.
Speaker 6: ONE guy i Believe that mark talked, to Others but
Speaker 6: mark's whole mission was to make Sure that alex knew
Speaker 6: he was the number, one guy and we needed to
Speaker 6: see what it was going to take To get alex,
Speaker 6: to come and so he may have had some backup just,
Speaker 6: in case but he was going full Hearted at alex
Speaker 6: and wanted to make Sure that alex realized that he
Speaker 6: was a number.
Speaker 1: One choice any any thoughts or maybe you know whether
Speaker 1: Or not alex was immediately open to this or was this.
Speaker 1: A process, I mean I know dallas. LIKED him i
Speaker 1: know his wife really very much enjoyed Living. In Dallas
Speaker 1: and i've been told that this wasn't Something that alex
Speaker 1: jumped at, right away that it did take. Some time
Speaker 1: but if, you're aware can you illuminate us kind of
Speaker 1: how this process? Went down maybe the Interest on.
Speaker 6: Alex's, Side yeah i've been Talking about Alex oh man
Speaker 6: for a number, of years and not, like daily but
Speaker 6: obviously each time the season starts, Getting worse i'll text
Speaker 6: him or we'll run into each Other and i'll, just
Speaker 6: say are you ready to? Come yet you're ready to?
Speaker 6: Come yet in, THIS situation i sense in his voice
Speaker 6: a little more enthusiasm. And excitement you know that he was, actually,
Speaker 6: considering like you, know what that might be a, really good.
Speaker 6: Good option and then, you know, of course once you
Speaker 6: start to settle down, And, think okay my family going
Speaker 6: to be okay?
Speaker 7: With this do we have?
Speaker 6: Good support what's the?
Speaker 5: Nil, money like.
Speaker 4: What would our?
Speaker 6: Plan be who's going to be our just the behemoth
Speaker 6: that he now has on his shoulders trying to get
Speaker 6: everything figured out to kind of build the culture and
Speaker 6: the team and the structure and everything that. He wants
Speaker 6: AND so i think his initial and this is just.
Speaker 6: My opinion alex didn't, tell me this is my read.
Speaker 6: On it he was excited at, the opportunity, for sure
Speaker 6: and then maybe the weight of all of the things
Speaker 6: made him step back a little bit, And, say OKAY
Speaker 6: before i commit, to this we need to make sure
Speaker 6: we have some clarity on a. Few THINGS and i
Speaker 6: think that maybe is what took a little bit longer
Speaker 6: to get everything.
Speaker 1: Ironed, out So as i've been talking about ever since
Speaker 1: the New about craig hit, the airwaves whether It Was,
Speaker 1: alex jensen whether it Was A Josh Grand jimmy, soto
Speaker 1: hybrid whether you Resurrected, rickman jaris no matter who the,
Speaker 1: candidates were they were going To ask Mark And president
Speaker 1: randall the, same thing and that is what is the
Speaker 1: economic viability in the financial infrastructure of, my program of the?
Speaker 1: Basketball program so do you have any insight on where
Speaker 1: we're at? Right now because if you can't, write checks
Speaker 1: you're not, getting talent not in this day.
Speaker 8: And age, Josh, Right no, IT'S true i don't know
Speaker 8: the inside on, THAT necessarily i just probably have heard
Speaker 8: the same thing that, you've heard that people are excited
Speaker 8: enough About having alex as the head coach that at
Speaker 8: least they're coming to the table to.
Speaker 6: Have discussion there may be some donors who have verbally committed,
Speaker 6: to say you, know What if alex, is here we're
Speaker 6: going to get. MORE money i don't have a shore,
Speaker 6: known FACT but i also have a belief that this
Speaker 6: is something you have. TO build i don't think somebody's
Speaker 6: showing up with ten million dollars, to, Say, hey alex here,
Speaker 6: you go go and do with this ten million what.
Speaker 6: YOU want i think he might be a Situation where
Speaker 6: alex has to kind of prove that that he's utilizing
Speaker 6: the funds effectively and that he's putting together a good
Speaker 6: team with. Good PEOPLE and i, KNOW that i, know that,
Speaker 6: You know britain has some crazy ideas about how it
Speaker 6: is completely, nil MONEY and i know a lot of people.
Speaker 6: Think that but and this was one of my ISSUES
Speaker 6: when i would hear you say things about former coaches
Speaker 6: here that.
Speaker 3: That we're.
Speaker 6: Good coaches if you can't coach players that don't demand high,
Speaker 6: nil money how are you expected to coach players that
Speaker 6: do demand high. Nil money AND so i Think that
Speaker 6: alex is a. Good coach he's going to be, a
Speaker 6: COACH and i think that he's going to recruit the.
Speaker 6: Proper people and it's it's a little bit about. The
Speaker 6: personality if you look Back at utah, basketball history and
Speaker 6: that's kind OF how i always gauge a lot of
Speaker 6: THINGS that, i say is what has happened.
Speaker 5: In history and you look Back.
Speaker 6: At andre and you look Back at keith and doleyak
Speaker 6: look Back At. Byron wilson in, my era they were.
Speaker 6: Good people, you know they were, Raised right they realized
Speaker 6: the importance, Of loyalty they wanted to, Be coached they
Speaker 6: appreciated people who. Appreciated them and, so yes you're gonna
Speaker 6: have to pay those guys, nil money but you've got
Speaker 6: to find those good. Kids first don't just throw, your money,
Speaker 6: you know, willy nilly to just go get somebody kind
Speaker 6: of lived by, the sword you die by. The sword
Speaker 6: and if you're gonna just chase after kids who who
Speaker 6: are demanding this high, nil money is that really the
Speaker 6: culture that you want to build Here. At utah, and,
Speaker 6: so yes he's going to have more money FROM what,
Speaker 6: I UNDERSTAND but i still think that it's just people
Speaker 6: are just barely starting to wake up again to the.
Speaker 6: Basketball program they've been asleep for a little while because
Speaker 6: the program just hasn't been. So STELLAR but i think
Speaker 6: at least their eyes are open and they're very interested
Speaker 6: to see what's going to. Happen next, i'm.
Speaker 1: Sorry did you say that you had take an issue
Speaker 1: with me saying the coaches here in the past had been,
Speaker 1: good coaches. Genuinely, churious, yes yes.
Speaker 6: You're you're, too nice and now, YOU know I hope craig's.
Speaker 6: Not listening craig was a, nice guy but nobody said
Speaker 6: Anything about larry being a. Nice guy the attitude of
Speaker 6: That was larry. Didn't coach and so it's a little
Speaker 6: bit of an unfair comparison when we're are we gaging
Speaker 6: people by? Their niceness are we gaging people by their?
Speaker 6: Coaching ability and so you can you can see obviously that,
Speaker 6: you know we had some disparity in how our guy
Speaker 6: were they prepared well enough when they came out on
Speaker 6: the floor that they had confidence in knowing what they.
Speaker 6: Were doing and, TO me i didn't, See that and
Speaker 6: you could you could say that by, You Know gabe
Speaker 6: madson is a, great shooter a. Great shooter Why was
Speaker 6: gate not able to shoot? The, ball, well well they
Speaker 6: didn't really execute in. Offensive sets did he have his?
Speaker 5: Feet said did he.
Speaker 6: Come off as to be set the screen? Up properly
Speaker 6: what's the screen? Set properly there's just a lot of
Speaker 6: those things that, You know rick taught me to value and.
Speaker 6: To notice and so THAT'S why, i say, you know
Speaker 6: there's a big piece of this whole pie that includes
Speaker 6: good solid teaching and expectations and people have to be
Speaker 6: responsible for things that have been, taught them AND that's
Speaker 6: i think what's been missing the most last. Twenty, Years, Well.
Speaker 1: Josh i'll tell. YOU this i have to say thank
Speaker 1: You because i've been doing this nearly twenty years and
Speaker 1: that's the first time anybody has told ME that i am, Too,
Speaker 1: Nice JOSH so i. Appreciate.
Speaker 8: That thanks you're always, very kind always maybe to. A,
Speaker 8: cult okay, all, right well you, Know what i'll take.
Speaker 1: That feedback i'll take that Criticism and i'll try to
Speaker 1: be better. With it so let's, talk, About, now josh
Speaker 1: how you would like to see this staff. Filled out
Speaker 1: i've heard that They're Talking andre i'm sure you have
Speaker 1: inside knowledge that most of us. Do not but that's only.
Speaker 1: One seat so let's get your thoughts on whether or
Speaker 1: not You think andrea's high speed had to, come home
Speaker 1: and maybe some other thoughts on who you'd like to
Speaker 1: see city Next.
Speaker 6: To, alex yeah those are that's, a great.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 6: QUESTION andre I think andre wants. To come i'm pretty sure.
Speaker 6: Of that he may be just trying to get the
Speaker 6: final parts and pieces together so that he'll, be COMFORTABLE
Speaker 6: but i hear it's. VERY close i don't know if
Speaker 6: the deal has, been SIGNED but i hear. It's Close
Speaker 6: and andre will bring such an. Amazing presence from a,
Speaker 6: RECRUITING standpoint, i mean who Wouldn't If andre miller showed
Speaker 6: up at your front door and you LIVE. In la who's,
Speaker 6: Not thinking, Holy Cow andre miller is standing on my doorstep,
Speaker 6: right now and he could actually teach me how to
Speaker 6: get TO. The nba AND so i think from a,
Speaker 6: recruiting standpoint. It's amazing just from his feel for the game.
Speaker 6: Is amazing you hear a lot of these pros on
Speaker 6: these YouTube channels and podcasts talk About How andre miller
Speaker 6: was such a great meant to them and he would
Speaker 6: ask questions just simple like well what do you? See
Speaker 6: here and he wouldn't just tell. People stuff he would
Speaker 6: make them think and learn and figure things out. For
Speaker 6: THEMSELVES so i think that's that would be an amazing
Speaker 6: partnership with he and al. AFTER that i, YOU know
Speaker 6: i don't. Even know back in the, OLD days i
Speaker 6: think you had three coaches and you had one graduate
Speaker 6: assistant and nobody else could be on. The, FLOOR nowadays
Speaker 6: I think, i counted like what ten coaches on the
Speaker 6: bench the, Other DAY so i think you just have
Speaker 6: to be the number one higher or not the number one.
Speaker 6: Higher somebody that's really important is getting somebody who can
Speaker 6: act as your. General manager you've got to be able
Speaker 6: to keep track of nil and make sure that values,
Speaker 6: are maintained and how much money do, you have and
Speaker 6: how do we kind of put the, players together which
Speaker 6: is kind of new for. College basketball it's more OF an.
Speaker 6: Nba THING but I think alex has got to get
Speaker 6: somebody in that position that would be helpful to him
Speaker 6: and just kind of keep an eye out on him
Speaker 6: and make sure that he doesn't hit any. Big pothole,
Speaker 6: you know he's as he's kind of figuring all this.
Speaker 6: Stuff out so you've got to get got a good
Speaker 6: general manager who understands kind. Of, everything uh and then
Speaker 6: you've got to get somebody who can recruit the State.
Speaker 6: Of utah, You, KNOW britain. I can't i can't. HELP
Speaker 6: it i got to get back. At him it's just
Speaker 6: a love it, room, bag right, love it. Love it
Speaker 6: britain sat and talked ABOUT how i was, wrong that,
Speaker 6: you know you can't build a Team with utah players
Speaker 6: and so on and, so on and maybe you can
Speaker 6: Win the whack And, the mountain but you can't Win The.
Speaker 6: Big TWELVE and i don't disagree, with HIM and i never.
Speaker 6: SAID that i said you have to build a core
Speaker 6: group of players who Are.
Speaker 5: From UTAH so.
Speaker 6: I asked i was talking to My Friend ryan boyak,
Speaker 6: about this and we look back at the. Championship team
Speaker 6: do you know how many guys were on that Team?
Speaker 6: From utah pick a?
Speaker 5: Guess?
Speaker 1: Three four there?
Speaker 5: Were?
Speaker 1: Six, six okay so.
Speaker 6: You've got The, Two johnson's you've, Got al You've, got
Speaker 6: hanson and then you've got the. Backup center and then
Speaker 6: there was another cut KID if i can't remember. His
Speaker 6: name he didn't play a. WHOLE lot i think he
Speaker 6: ended up redshirting because he. Hard himself but, Six players
Speaker 6: so you've got to be able to start to build
Speaker 6: that that that win of recruiting the best Players. In
Speaker 6: utah so you've got to have somebody who understands and
Speaker 6: has relationships or can build relationships with the. Local kids
Speaker 6: and then, AFTER that, i think, you know you've got
Speaker 6: to get people who can build player or do, player
Speaker 6: development and who can, you know fix people's shots and
Speaker 6: and work on some of the basics and things. Like
Speaker 6: THAT do i have names for?
Speaker 3: YOU now.
Speaker 6: I don't and if, they asked if They Asked brittan
Speaker 6: johnson to come be, a coach don't let. Him tricky
Speaker 6: he would drop everything he's doing to come and be.
Speaker 6: A coach he's he's trying to Be. Mister cooy, but
Speaker 6: yeah and. WHO wouldn't, i mean it's a it's a
Speaker 6: it's an opportunity of a lifetime really to come in
Speaker 6: and to be able to work here at an all
Speaker 6: the model that, you love that you have, passion FOR
Speaker 6: and i think that goes a. Long way and that's
Speaker 6: ANOTHER thing i think has been missing is this passion
Speaker 6: For the University. Of utah and that's another Box that.
Speaker 6: Alex checks he Loves the University. Of utah he has
Speaker 6: great feelings of his. Experiences here so he's gonna he's
Speaker 6: gonna work a little bit harder and maybe have a
Speaker 6: few more sleepless nights if things don't, go Well which
Speaker 6: i'm not saying, they will but it'll still be a challenge.
Speaker 6: For him he'll just he'll be a little more concerned
Speaker 6: maybe and put a little more.
Speaker 4: Into it, So.
Speaker 6: Yeah i'm excited as everybody, else is just to see
Speaker 6: who who is gonna come and, sit around and who's gonna,
Speaker 6: have input and who Will have, Alex's here who Will
Speaker 6: Be Alex's, jeff jutkins, you know like he Was to.
Speaker 6: Rick mcgaris and. It's fun it's, just exciting it. Really
Speaker 6: is this is such a.
Speaker 5: Good time.
Speaker 1: Now at The next utah basketball? Great reunion are You
Speaker 1: and britt gonna? Be good are we gonna see? Some
Speaker 1: fisticuffs are are you guys gonna be all right the
Speaker 1: next time? You're together first, of.
Speaker 6: All both of us are so skinny that we probably
Speaker 6: couldn't hurt each other if we actually did throw. A blow, but,
Speaker 6: no no That's. Just britain We've known britain a. Long
Speaker 6: time i'm not gonna. Hit him he's not gonna. Hit,
Speaker 6: me well probably just.
Speaker 4: Start.
Speaker 5: Laughing, Okay no we're. We're good, we're.
Speaker 1: Good OKAY and i would, Be, remiss JOSH if i didn't,
Speaker 1: ASK you i would Imagine if alex, is interested you'd
Speaker 1: be interested potentially in talking to him about sitting on.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 1: Bench.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: Oh ABSOLUTELY like, i said it's an opportunity of. A
Speaker 6: lifetime And as I've as i've watched this whole thing,
Speaker 6: Go through i've, asked myself is this SOMETHING that i
Speaker 6: would like? To do and, you know sometimes, people, say
Speaker 6: well you haven't, Been COACHING and i, think BACK and
Speaker 6: i Talked To jeff judkins because he had a similar
Speaker 6: situation where he didn't coach for. A while, i mean
Speaker 6: he was just working as an average Joe when rick
Speaker 6: mccheris brought. Him back AND so i, think that, you
Speaker 6: know there was a TIME when i had to DECIDE
Speaker 6: did i want to turn left and go, into COACHING
Speaker 6: do i turn right and try to get into, you
Speaker 6: know Work. Force america and JUST because i decided to
Speaker 6: go right and To Work, force america the information and
Speaker 6: the KNOWLEDGE that i had learned over my, you know
Speaker 6: fifteen year career or seventeen. Year career it didn't, just
Speaker 6: disappear so it's always been, in THERE and i think
Speaker 6: it would be a lot of fun to just be
Speaker 6: able to help in. Some way whatever, THAT means i,
Speaker 6: don't KNOW but i, think that, YOU know i do
Speaker 6: have some things to offer for in. STATE kids i
Speaker 6: could go and tell them how awesome it is to
Speaker 6: be a, hometown boy because really that played such a
Speaker 6: big part of, my life just kind of, being here
Speaker 6: Being An east. High, graduate so, you know if it's
Speaker 6: obviously it's Up, to alex but if THERE'S anything i
Speaker 6: could do, To help i'd be more than happy to
Speaker 6: jump in there and.
Speaker 1: Do it at the risk of being, too Nice you're josh.
Speaker 1: Freaking grants you didn't need to carry a clipboard around
Speaker 1: for twenty years to be able to. Be, Qualified josh
Speaker 1: but let me move over HERE before i set, you
Speaker 1: loose because you referenced and We had tim McMahon on
Speaker 1: the show who Covers the MAVs, or Espn and tim
Speaker 1: Reported it alex would finish off the season With, the
Speaker 1: MAVs but MAVs ownership has given him complete carte blanche
Speaker 1: to go start doing what he's doing to lay the
Speaker 1: found work for his. New Job and i'm just gonna
Speaker 1: read off the names of the players that are eligible
Speaker 1: to come back, next year AND then i want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts and we'll say. You Lose So ezra
Speaker 1: star as a Junior And. Kanu DAEs, You Know coach
Speaker 1: Eiler played kanu more Minutes than, craig Did and kana
Speaker 1: had three double doubles in the five Games coach. Eyler
Speaker 1: coached so We've, Got ezra We've Got, kana dawes We Got.
Speaker 1: Mira little we Also Have jake Wallen and Mike shrab
Speaker 1: jams are the main candidates to, come back at least.
Speaker 1: On paper so what do you make of that list?
Speaker 1: Of names and who do You think alex should look
Speaker 1: at to try to get back?
Speaker 6: Next year, YOU know i love all those guys. YOU
Speaker 6: mentioned i honestly think that you. Know all this is
Speaker 6: the difference of opinion between Me And. Coach SMITH but
Speaker 6: i think that you take either one of those point
Speaker 6: guards and then you add the other the other three
Speaker 6: and then if you have Somebody Like Caleb, caleb loher
Speaker 6: it was such a beast. ON defense i think if
Speaker 6: you started those five guys just to kind and to
Speaker 6: set the, tone defensively they really will get after it
Speaker 6: and they would set a good, tone defensively AND so
Speaker 6: i think you win some games if you just give
Speaker 6: them the opportunity to just go and get.
Speaker 5: After IT so.
Speaker 6: I do i'm a Fan, Of waleen i'm a Fan.
Speaker 6: Of DAWs i'm a Fan. OF ezra I think miro's
Speaker 6: in there and he can get in there. And compete he's,
Speaker 6: very Athletic, and mike for his lack of athletic ability is.
Speaker 6: SO long i think that makes up for a lot.
Speaker 6: Of THINGS so i really Believe that alex should go
Speaker 6: and try to keep all of them because they do kind.
Speaker 6: Of understand they played with each other. A year, You
Speaker 6: know DAWs is starting to show what he's capable of
Speaker 6: if you just kind of let him play through and gain.
Speaker 6: Some confidence walleen is the. Same thing he needs to
Speaker 6: get some work with, his shot with his shot and
Speaker 6: being able to maybe have some other options. TO score
Speaker 6: I think mike just needs to get his feet set
Speaker 6: a little bit better when he shoots his. Jump Shot,
Speaker 6: and miro, you know he's just an. Athletic kid maybe
Speaker 6: give him a little bit, more direction but make defense
Speaker 6: the price already. For HIM and i think with those guys,
Speaker 6: right there sure you need a big center, or something
Speaker 6: but with those guys, right there you have a pretty
Speaker 6: solid TEAM and i just need, to build, you know
Speaker 6: some some some.
Speaker 1: Good, Subs, WELL josh i appreciate, the TIME and i
Speaker 1: didn't mean to cause problems between you and, My, guy
Speaker 1: britt so hopefully we're gonna. Be okay bottom, line is
Speaker 1: no matter where you're at in, the ecosystem somebody like
Speaker 1: you who's, a legend or somebody like me who covers.
Speaker 1: THE program i think this has been a really exciting
Speaker 1: Week and i'm pumped to see. What's next, My friend
Speaker 1: so thank you so much for.
Speaker 4: The, time hey.
Speaker 6: THANK you i really. Appreciate it, And yeah BRITT and
Speaker 6: i we're, still buddy so.
Speaker 1: No, Worries ah right there, we go The Great, josh
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Speaker 1: But The Utah hockey club continues to stay in. The
Speaker 1: fight it's gonna be tough when you look at the
Speaker 1: numbers to make that wild, card spot but it's not.
Speaker 1: Over yet and our next guest joins us on a
Speaker 1: weekly basis to, inform us, enlighten us and illuminate us
Speaker 1: in the world Of professional hockey's The Great neil smith On, A,
Speaker 1: Thursday Neil, Happy, thursday sir how?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 7: Thank you thank you to make me sound a lot
Speaker 7: BRIGHTER than. I am and that's. For SURE but i like.
Speaker 7: That commercial you just had him With the, irish voice
Speaker 7: squid that it was an irishman. For, SOMETHING anyways i
Speaker 7: THOUGHT that i shouldn't let you KNOW that i. Liked That,
Speaker 7: BUT smith i got to start off with a little
Speaker 7: tribute to your FATHER and i got some very bad news.
Speaker 7: THIS week i don't know if you were he was
Speaker 7: able to tell you about the Passing Of, stanley jaffy
Speaker 7: who's so instrumental in us With the knick success And
Speaker 7: the rangers' success back in, the nineties and just a,
Speaker 7: wonderful guy and he passed away at. Eighty, four yeah.
Speaker 1: That's right we did have a little family thread going on,
Speaker 1: with THAT and i wonder if you would collaborate my
Speaker 1: father's thoughts that in my dad's time in, the garden
Speaker 1: He said stanley jaffe was his favorite boss during his.
Speaker 1: Entire time would you would you, Cooborate, THAT yeah.
Speaker 7: I would i think that if it weren't, for him
Speaker 7: we wouldn't have Won The, stanley cup and Probably the
Speaker 7: knicks wouldn't have Gone to game Seven against houston that.
Speaker 7: Same year he was very much behind the teams and
Speaker 7: very Much allowed DAVE and i to do what we
Speaker 7: had to do to make the. Teams great and you
Speaker 7: know it was his support was vital during an era
Speaker 7: when they kept changing ownership Of the garden and you
Speaker 7: had to get somebody that, was supportive and he.
Speaker 5: Certainly, was yeah it was.
Speaker 1: A shame when the final ownership change took place and
Speaker 1: that dude is still. In charge but that's a different
Speaker 1: topic for a, Different, day neil we will leave. That
Speaker 1: there so let me just ask you right off the.
Speaker 1: TOP here, i mean it's still. Really tight minnesota's pulled
Speaker 1: away a. Little Bit calgary vancouver on. Seventy One Utah
Speaker 1: hockey club with win, last night is on sixty nine
Speaker 1: points along With. The blues but as we as we
Speaker 1: rolled down, the stretch is it still realistic to believe
Speaker 1: that this could? Actually Happen The Utah hockey club could
Speaker 1: qualify as a wildcard team IN The Nhl stanley.
Speaker 7: Cup, playoffs yeah they're Very much still they're not the
Speaker 7: favorites to get into to those wild card SPOTS because
Speaker 7: i think That's more Vancouver. And calgary but they do have.
Speaker 7: A chance and we were talking about it today and
Speaker 7: if you, you know you can say that to get
Speaker 7: to the ninety two points or whatever it's going to
Speaker 7: take to make, the playoffs you've got to play at
Speaker 7: a seven hundred average or a six hundred average. Or
Speaker 7: something but, you know if you if a team can
Speaker 7: get on a, winning streak Either the blues or the,
Speaker 7: hockey club to get on a, winning streak they can jump.
Speaker 7: Over teams but it's going to take a. Winning streak
Speaker 7: it's not going to you're not going to be able
Speaker 7: to win one, lose one win one. Lose one that that.
Speaker 7: Won't work and when you, play TEAMS and i said this,
Speaker 7: last week when you, aren't on you've got to get
Speaker 7: the two points and don't leave any on the table
Speaker 7: for the. Other team in, other words you don't win in,
Speaker 7: over time you don't win in a, shoot a try
Speaker 7: to win, in regulation and of course if that's, not
Speaker 7: possible then go ahead and win any. Other ones but
Speaker 7: it's important that you get the points and that you
Speaker 7: don't leave any for.
Speaker 1: Other teams so let me ask you if you just
Speaker 1: had to, Guess again minnesota seems to have separated themselves
Speaker 1: for the first, wildcard spot but the second, Wildcard, Spot,
Speaker 1: Calgary Vancouver, saint Louis and utah are all in the
Speaker 1: mix for that. Second wildcard so who would you kind
Speaker 1: of handicap is the favorite as, Of, NOW.
Speaker 7: Neil i Would handicap vancouver as. A favorite that's What,
Speaker 7: most yeah that's what most sites are Saying that vancouver
Speaker 7: is the one that's the favorite to. Get in and
Speaker 7: that goes by strength of schedule the rest of. The way,
Speaker 7: you know teams that they've got, to play how many
Speaker 7: home games, they have how many, road games how many
Speaker 7: teams above five hundred that they had left, to play
Speaker 7: how many blow? Five hundred and on that strength of
Speaker 7: schedule and on, the team that's who people are giving the.
Speaker 7: Edge to BUT as, i said that all goes out
Speaker 7: the window if somebody goes on a, winning streak even
Speaker 7: though you're only two, points apart it'll take a winning
Speaker 7: streak and beating teams that people have, handicapped you not
Speaker 7: the beat to give you a chance to, get in
Speaker 7: and crazier things, have happened that's.
Speaker 1: For sure so what sort of what sort? Of experience
Speaker 1: because we're doing this a lot With the, jazz here
Speaker 1: A local, nba team as they play a lot of
Speaker 1: these really good teams in very, close games it's giving
Speaker 1: these young players a lot of good experience because they're
Speaker 1: not going to make. The playoffs and the only way
Speaker 1: for these young players to understand what it's like to
Speaker 1: play against really really good players and really good teams
Speaker 1: in pro basketball not get their doors, blown off is
Speaker 1: be able to make these, games competitive and even if they,
Speaker 1: fall short they're getting some good experience because they're playing.
Speaker 1: Teams closely what sort of experience can a young team
Speaker 1: Like The Utah hockey club just be able to garner
Speaker 1: being in the fight That coach torney talks about all,
Speaker 1: the time being in, the race even if they don't
Speaker 1: get in and if they. Fall short what sort of
Speaker 1: experience can be gained in a race, Like.
Speaker 7: THIS neil i think just what you just said is
Speaker 7: the experience of being in a situation finally where they
Speaker 7: are going right down to the wire to try to
Speaker 7: get in and they're not Eliminated. In february if you
Speaker 7: look at the team, last year the same team which
Speaker 7: was Based, in arizona they weren't in the fight right
Speaker 7: till the. Very END and i think that that's what
Speaker 7: the coach is, talking about is that stay in, the fight.
Speaker 7: Keep fighting if they're going to beat us and go
Speaker 7: in and we're not going to, make it let's not.
Speaker 7: Make it let's not make it on the, last weekend
Speaker 7: not on the lot of month ahead of the end of,
Speaker 7: the season if you KNOW what, i mean keep fighting
Speaker 7: right till the. Very END and i got to say
Speaker 7: spend since we've, been talking, you know in. The summer
Speaker 7: this IS what i envisioned for, this team that they
Speaker 7: would be in, and around knocking on the door to
Speaker 7: try to get into the wild. Card spot and they
Speaker 7: still are doing it and they can.
Speaker 5: Get in.
Speaker 1: Are you surprised, At, all neil THAT the nhl trade
Speaker 1: deadline Came in wentz without the hockey club being. Very
Speaker 1: active does that surprise you? At all or did You
Speaker 1: Anticipate bill armstrong to stay in the course regardless of where.
Speaker 7: They're at, YOU know i anticipated that he would trade
Speaker 7: a couple, of UFAs but he re signed guys that,
Speaker 7: were UFAs so that sort of took them off. The
Speaker 7: Market and buffalo did the. Same Thing and i'm Not
Speaker 7: comparing Buffalo, in Utah but buffalo a non. Playoff team
Speaker 7: they ended up signing guys so that they didn't walk away.
Speaker 7: For nothing and that's the thing at this time of
Speaker 7: the year is the gms don't want to lose a guy,
Speaker 7: for nothing so they come to the deadline and, they,
Speaker 7: say look we either sign them or we. Trade them
Speaker 7: but we're not just going to have him hang in
Speaker 7: for the rest of the regular season and then walk
Speaker 7: away and go. Somewhere else we've got to get something for.
Speaker 7: These Guys So bill armstrong signed a couple of guys
Speaker 7: and that took them off. The, market basically.
Speaker 1: EXCUSE me a story broke this Week That connor ingram
Speaker 1: is stepping away from the team to take care of
Speaker 1: his mental health and he's entering what's called a player.
Speaker 1: Assistant program this Happened. On sunday he lost his mother
Speaker 1: to breast Cancer, in DECEMBER which i think was news
Speaker 1: to a lot, of people and, you know not like
Speaker 1: this is the most, important Thing, but connor you on he,
Speaker 1: was struggling and now we kind of. Know why now
Speaker 1: there's some context and color to this. Entire thing so
Speaker 1: tell us about, This, program neil tell us About This player.
Speaker 1: Assistant program most people when they see news like this
Speaker 1: Believe and connor even talked, about this most people believe
Speaker 1: it was some sort of substance abuse issue when a
Speaker 1: program like this, is announced but. It's not he's just
Speaker 1: taking time off to take care of his. Mental health
Speaker 1: so tell us about this program and your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the news that Broke About.
Speaker 7: Connor, INGRAM well i didn't know about, his mother and that's.
Speaker 7: Really sad that's, horribly sad especially for a kid that's that,
Speaker 7: you know It's not i'm sure his mother wasn't really
Speaker 7: very old and too early, to go and so that
Speaker 7: would put anybody into. A depression and, you know you
Speaker 7: don't want to guess these things, and say, you know he's.
Speaker 7: Fighting depression you don't want to say it's any substance
Speaker 7: or alcohol or anything else because you. Don't KNOW but
Speaker 7: i would imagine that his, you know his mental state
Speaker 7: hasn't been right to play goal In The National hockey
Speaker 7: league when he's been hit with. His grief that he's
Speaker 7: had to encounter, this year and he probably just wants
Speaker 7: to try to take care of that with some counseling and,
Speaker 7: some therapy and good on him to, actually, SAY look
Speaker 7: i need to. Do this i'm not as good an
Speaker 7: athlete or, a person, a, husband father or WHATEVER until
Speaker 7: i take care of this mental. HEALTH issue i.
Speaker 1: Wonder while we're in, this Space because i've never talked
Speaker 1: to you about. This before, YOU know i am a
Speaker 1: gen xer in my i'll say. MID forties i can
Speaker 1: say that for another like. Five days and, You know
Speaker 1: NEIL and i was, growing up we weren't really encouraged
Speaker 1: to talk openly about mental. Health ISSUES and i was
Speaker 1: raised by very, loving parents, you know my mother. And
Speaker 1: father i'm not complaining about anything as far AS how i,
Speaker 1: was raised but it was Never REALLY and i played
Speaker 1: sports up until, YOU know i was in COLLEGE before
Speaker 1: i needed to find something else to do with my
Speaker 1: time because being a five to eleven white kid trying
Speaker 1: To Guard andrew miller was not fun and it was
Speaker 1: never a thing a coach. BROUGHT up i had some,
Speaker 1: really intense quite frankly mean COACHES as i, came up
Speaker 1: and none of them ever really asked us how we.
Speaker 1: Were doing it was just kind of. A deal and
Speaker 1: you ran hockey teams IN the nhl in, the nineties
Speaker 1: very successfully Winning A. Stanley cup was were points of
Speaker 1: emphasis like this even part of the fabric of your
Speaker 1: job back in. The nineties and what do you make
Speaker 1: of kind of how this stuff has changed a. Little, bit.
Speaker 7: Well a whole society has changed for the better and
Speaker 7: become more open about and and and recognizing that mental health.
Speaker 5: Is health it's not.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 7: Made up It is it's just the same as any
Speaker 7: kind of. Other disease if you have a mental, health
Speaker 7: issue you have a type of disease that has to.
Speaker 7: Be fixed AND so i think in our day in,
Speaker 7: the nineties we had. A psychotherapist i'm not sure if
Speaker 7: he was clinically a certified, or not but we had a,
Speaker 7: person that, you know talk to the players from time
Speaker 7: to time to see how they, were doing and was
Speaker 7: was around the team. A, lot so but it wasn't
Speaker 7: to the extent it is Now where i'm sure that
Speaker 7: the player can go, and, Say look i'm struggling because
Speaker 7: of this, or this and, YOU know i need, some
Speaker 7: help and the team would, accommodate that just as an
Speaker 7: employer would accommodate hopefully if one of their employees came
Speaker 7: to them, And said i'm really struggling at my Job
Speaker 7: because I'VE got X y z.
Speaker 5: GOING on.
Speaker 1: I wonder one more. Question here it feels like once
Speaker 1: upon a time there may have been a fear for
Speaker 1: a player, to, SAY yes i need a break because
Speaker 1: he could lose. HIS job i wonder if that's anything
Speaker 1: that you, ever saw whether it was mental health or,
Speaker 1: just injuries, players, LIKE no i can't take. A break
Speaker 1: i have. A family i need. THIS job i don't
Speaker 1: want some young upstart taking. My, gig.
Speaker 7: YEAH well i got to get. Another contract i'm trying
Speaker 7: to play for. Another contract i'll, Play hurt i'll play.
Speaker 7: IN grief i mean in the old days of the,
Speaker 7: let's say when the players played in the sixties and,
Speaker 7: THE seventies, i mean they didn't even go home when,
Speaker 7: their child when their wife was giving, child firth they
Speaker 7: had to.
Speaker 5: Stay on the road with.
Speaker 1: The team.
Speaker 7: You know now it's a common thing that players leave
Speaker 7: when they're going to have the birth of.
Speaker 5: A child so.
Speaker 7: It's very much that players will play. Through things but
Speaker 7: with concussions and. So on the leagues have all become
Speaker 7: more ultra conscious of head injuries which lead to, mental
Speaker 7: issues because if you get, a concussion you know you're
Speaker 7: going to have various mental issues during the time that,
Speaker 7: it's healing and clubs have become more aware.
Speaker 1: Of this so what this Does do AND again i
Speaker 1: don't want to diminish, You know connor's bravery and we
Speaker 1: all wish him well and hope he's. Back soon but
Speaker 1: now there's no debate about who the first choice. Goalie
Speaker 1: is It, is mamalka who statistically is had a better Year,
Speaker 1: than connor and we've talked about it all. Year long
Speaker 1: so what sort of dynamic does? That bring is it,
Speaker 1: just again, you know good Wishes, to connor but Knowing
Speaker 1: that mamelka is the, guy now is that something that
Speaker 1: could maybe free him up when he knows the job
Speaker 1: is his no, Matter WHAT.
Speaker 7: Oh, i THINK so i think he'll. PLAY better A
Speaker 7: normal nhl team has a set number one and a,
Speaker 7: set backup and they certainly have that Now With jackson
Speaker 7: stober being the backup and Of the milica being clearly.
Speaker 7: Number One and vimilica was rewarded with a new contract
Speaker 7: Too By, bill armstrong so he showed him that he
Speaker 7: is definitely, number one and that's another player they took
Speaker 7: OFF the ufa market by giving him a, New contract so,
Speaker 7: he said a. Good year connor struggled, this year as we,
Speaker 7: all know but now maybe we know one of the
Speaker 7: reasons why, he struggled and that's with his. Personal situation, All.
Speaker 1: Right neil kind of a, broad picture, you know, big
Speaker 1: picture broader question about the league, right NOW because i
Speaker 1: haven't talked to you Since that march seventh, trade deadline
Speaker 1: which was. Last week of all the moves that, were
Speaker 1: made and there were, a ton which one did you like?
Speaker 1: The most which one left you scratch in? Your, head.
Speaker 7: Well the one that made me scratch my head and
Speaker 7: probably every other part of me Was the carolina Trading
Speaker 7: for ranton and then not knowing whether they could, sign
Speaker 7: him and then not being able to, sign him and
Speaker 7: then turning around and trading Him to dallas and it
Speaker 7: ended up that They Lost jack Drury And marty Neckish
Speaker 7: to colorado and Got Back taylor hall and a bunch.
Speaker 7: Of picks so that made me, really, wonder like what
Speaker 7: do you do and you're supposed to know you could
Speaker 7: sign these guys before you trade. For them that's the
Speaker 7: common that's common operations to do it. That way the
Speaker 7: other ONE that i was startled BY was i didn't
Speaker 7: Think that boston would ever trade, Their captain Brad, marsha
Speaker 7: on and when they couldn't come to a deal, with
Speaker 7: him they ended up trading Him, to florida which Has
Speaker 7: been boston's nemesis the last. Few Years and Brad marshaw
Speaker 7: on now plays with two guys that terrorized each Other
Speaker 7: In sam Bennett And matt Kuchuck on florida will now
Speaker 7: Play with Brad marsha on on the. Same team so
Speaker 7: you're going to have three very irritating guys now On The.
Speaker 7: Florida panthers they, had two but now you're going to
Speaker 7: have the third One in marshaunson does a good job
Speaker 7: of that.
Speaker 1: As well so after, The deadline Vegas believes Florida and
Speaker 1: dallas are The Top stanley. Cup contenders now do you agree?
Speaker 4: WITH that.
Speaker 7: I think florida is a. Top contender i'm not Sure
Speaker 7: that dallas is because they got RANT and i think they're.
Speaker 7: REALLY good i Would say winnipeg is the TEAM that
Speaker 7: i would put my two cents on because they've.
Speaker 5: Done it all.
Speaker 7: Year long i'm not sure when you go out in
Speaker 7: the trade deadline and you get a, big fish that
Speaker 7: the big fish can get into the school and swim
Speaker 7: with the other fish, right away because it's a big
Speaker 7: change in the in the dynamic of the big change
Speaker 7: the dynamic of the team when you put a guy
Speaker 7: in that lineup that takes that much.
Speaker 5: Ice time, all right.
Speaker 1: My friend where can all of our? Listeners go get
Speaker 1: that good podcast to yours.
Speaker 7: Any any podcast platform and YouTube and any anywhere and
Speaker 7: give us. A listen We Had paul maurice on this
Speaker 7: week that was. Really funny actually he was on on
Speaker 7: the day of. The deadline you got to hear, This,
Speaker 7: story spence because it's a. Great one so we're Talking To,
Speaker 7: paul maurice the coach Of The, florida panthers and we said,
Speaker 7: to him are you sure you want to do it
Speaker 7: today because it's a TRADE that, i, no, no no,
Speaker 7: it's fine. It's fine we get into the interview and
Speaker 7: we're about half an hour in and, he, Says guys
Speaker 7: i'll be. RIGHT back i just got to go for
Speaker 7: a few. Minutes here you know what today is and
Speaker 7: we sure. Go go he goes away for five or,
Speaker 7: ten minutes, comes back. Finishes up he went away to
Speaker 7: get informed that they were Trading for Brad.
Speaker 5: Marsha on so that was.
Speaker 7: Really fun but that's a. Good interview listen to listen.
Speaker 1: To that ONE on Nhl Wrapper, oh man that. Is,
Speaker 1: WILD neil i appreciate, your time, my friend have a
Speaker 1: great week and we will chout you.
Speaker 6: Next, week yeah all my, best spence. Thank you.
Speaker 1: All Right, neil smith general manager Of The New york
Speaker 1: rangers in, the nineties joins us on a weekly basis
Speaker 1: to help us understand the landscape of pro hockey now
Speaker 1: that we are a hockey town With The Utah hockey
Speaker 1: club back in action tomorrow Taking. On seattle, all right
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Speaker 1: Thursday Kirk, happy, thursday buddy how are. We doing i'm, Doing.
Speaker 9: Well stance thanks for.
Speaker 1: HAVING me i appreciate. The time so today we are
Speaker 1: going to talk about, adult acne which. Is terrifying the
Speaker 1: causes in The, Treatment's kirk so.
Speaker 6: Go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, yeah so, you.
Speaker 9: Know unfortunately adult acne is something that, you know for
Speaker 9: many patients they, deal with, you know and we don't
Speaker 9: outgrow it as, a team, you know from, their teenagers.
Speaker 5: And so that can be.
Speaker 9: Really frustrating one thing that we see a lot with
Speaker 9: a lot of, patients is, you know once they start ormono,
Speaker 9: replacement therapy so like, testosterone injections they start to see
Speaker 9: acne on their trunk.
Speaker 5: And face and they have.
Speaker 9: This conundrum where they're starting to, feel better you have,
Speaker 9: more energy but then feel like they're regressing to their
Speaker 9: teenagers and dealing.
Speaker 1: With acne so.
Speaker 9: One THING that i like to do is bring patients
Speaker 9: in or, you know and help them with. That problem
Speaker 9: and the nice thing is we can kind of have
Speaker 9: our cake and eat.
Speaker 1: It too we can.
Speaker 9: Often keep patients on their hormone replacement therapies while also,
Speaker 9: you know getting their acne clearer with various washes and,
Speaker 9: you know topical medications. And pills so that's a fun
Speaker 9: thing to help. Patients through let's.
Speaker 1: Talk about what the right products are to use on
Speaker 1: your face and educate us on how to wash our
Speaker 1: face so we can just avoid.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 9: Acne yeah so, you, know oftentimes, you know, especially males we,
Speaker 9: you know maybe just use the bar soap and continue
Speaker 9: it from the body onto the face and just for ease.
Speaker 9: Of use and, you know a lot of these products
Speaker 9: that we use just can strict oil out of the
Speaker 9: skin and really compromise our. Skin barrier so if we
Speaker 9: can just use products that are kind of more geared,
Speaker 9: towards helping, you know maintain those healthy oils in the
Speaker 9: skin and helping with that, skin bearer that will go
Speaker 9: a long way of, you know either either not making
Speaker 9: your acne worse or or helping. It initially so, you
Speaker 9: know that's something that we like to help educate patients
Speaker 9: on what products. To use and, you know a lot
Speaker 9: of these things aren't very expensive and we, can help,
Speaker 9: you know guide through the myriad.
Speaker 1: Of options, Last, thing kirk when should a parent involve
Speaker 1: a dermatologist when their kid as serious? Acne, Issues.
Speaker 9: Yeah so this Is something i'm really Passionate about really
Speaker 9: it's never. Too early we all know that junior high
Speaker 9: in high school is not an easy period, of life
Speaker 9: and acne only compounds, that problem and SO it's i just,
Speaker 9: tell parents, you know it's never. Too soon even if it's.
Speaker 9: Mild acne we can help guide them through the many
Speaker 9: different options that are available over, the counter and then
Speaker 9: oftentimes we can get patients on you various top goals
Speaker 9: or prescription medications that can really help clear them up
Speaker 9: and just help them feel confident in. THEIR skin, i
Speaker 9: mean that's such a huge thing as, a Teenager and
Speaker 9: i'm really passionate about trying to, help patients, particularly teenagers regain.
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Speaker 1: all right If You missed josh, grant from earlier we may.
Speaker 1: Have STARTED something porter i didn't intend, to DO this
Speaker 1: but i fear that At the next utah men's basketball reunion,
Speaker 1: whenever That Is both Josh Grant and britton johnson are.
Speaker 1: Like six' ten i'm afraid that we. Might have some
Speaker 1: fisticuffs was not in the mood to.
Speaker 2: Play today for sure, well if we have and we've
Speaker 2: got two near seven footers that you know that maybe,
Speaker 2: HAVE a few disagreements i think that for the most part,
Speaker 2: they are similar fellas and that's why. It seems that,
Speaker 2: WAY but in reality i think it's. It's mostly kind
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Speaker 2: college football maybe we could get a little boxing match going. Raise,
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Speaker 1: YEAH i Don't Know i mean josh grant Dropped the
Speaker 1: whole like britain HAS known me since i dated his
Speaker 1: sister and. WHEN he, Was five i mean josh came.
Speaker 1: Out with some, FIRES so in. Fairness i do too
Speaker 1: it's great in FAIRNESS and also because i am five
Speaker 1: minutes from losing my voice if You Miss the reason josh.
Speaker 1: Graham Was, Upset Today on monday bryton johnson stopped by
Speaker 1: and here's what. He, had to SAY well when when.
Speaker 10: I first heard, IT i, text him i said al are?
Speaker 10: We coming or not and he he responded Back in,
Speaker 10: his very alex fashion It was myself and jeff we were.
Speaker 10: On a thread, Together, HE responded back Man i absolutely
Speaker 10: love dallas And this is a this is just. Such
Speaker 10: a nice job so not giving me anything right, AND
Speaker 10: also just saying i know that's going to be a
Speaker 10: huge responsibility to try and get the youth back.
Speaker 7: To where they.
Speaker 10: Were Supposed to be so i'm in, my minding in.
Speaker 10: Kay he's playing coy but the fact that he responded
Speaker 10: to my text about, the about the. Topic It was
Speaker 10: ENCOURAGING so jeff, AND i both like i think there's.
Speaker 10: Going to be hoped alex plays. His cards, really close
Speaker 10: you know, He's. Not like me spence he doesn't throw
Speaker 10: up all over himself and tell everybody every. Aspect of
Speaker 10: their life, that's probably You know, like like lindsay, said
Speaker 10: less is more that's probably a.
Speaker 5: Good, thing that, he does you know not just flinging.
Speaker 10: Random things OUT there but when i heard he, Actually.
Speaker 5: Took the job.
Speaker 10: Spence nothing BUT excitement nothing but i would just say
Speaker 10: anticipation in regard to this? Program going right track is
Speaker 10: he going to come in and absolutely turn. It, all
Speaker 10: around overnight no but he is going to be the
Speaker 10: best option that they could. HAVE gotten, FOR sure i
Speaker 10: mean i DON'T know who else i would.
Speaker 1: Choose other than him so let's dig into a. Couple,
Speaker 1: OF things here first i wanted to Get, your Thoughts
Speaker 1: on craig as craig, has been you know given the
Speaker 1: door and relieved of his duties, after just you know,
Speaker 1: almost almost five years, just under four years six. Years
Speaker 1: On his deal so craig walks away. With a little
Speaker 1: change he's gonna he's got a. Five million dollar parachute
Speaker 1: so of course he does not have to Take a job.
Speaker 1: At maverick anytime soon he'll be. Fine for a minute
Speaker 1: why do you Think this ultimately with? Craig? DID not
Speaker 1: work now i. Know you're down south so did you
Speaker 1: have A Chance to hear josh grant on?
Speaker 3: My?
Speaker 1: Show?
Speaker 5: By, chance yes yes okay several people.
Speaker 1: Sent, that to me, okay so, give me give me
Speaker 1: give me, your. Thoughts, On that britt oh josh.
Speaker 5: Is a battling idiot he doesn't know. What he's talking.
Speaker 5: ABOUT i'm just kidding. I assume he's listening josh.
Speaker 4: Is, a good.
Speaker 5: Friend no there was there was definitely some.
Speaker 10: Key spots to what he was Talking, about With with
Speaker 10: craig and josh has a great. Pulse on the, Program
Speaker 10: by the way josh dated, my oldest sister.
Speaker 5: Friend so he came to our.
Speaker 10: House picked her up we all thought he was the
Speaker 10: greatest thing in the world because he Was. The superstar
Speaker 10: in Utah so the so, josh.
Speaker 5: And his brothers we.
Speaker 10: All, Go way back listen craig had an awesome. This
Speaker 10: is what's hard he has That Awesome, season at utah state,
Speaker 10: but he, also had you know one of the best shot.
Speaker 10: Blockers in The Country. HE had sam merrill i think
Speaker 10: For a minute with. Craig a great coach he. Was
Speaker 10: a fine coach he, was A good man someone i
Speaker 10: would have.
Speaker 5: My son.
Speaker 10: Played for worked hard, but but you know you, got
Speaker 10: TO have players and i think just at the, end
Speaker 10: of the day you got to. Get THE right players
Speaker 10: AND I remember hearing i josh talked a lot about
Speaker 10: getting The best players in utah and and kind of
Speaker 10: that recipe like what we had in his, air, IN
Speaker 10: my air well i agree with that to, a, to,
Speaker 10: a degree like look that's gonna You Whack Championships. And
Speaker 10: mount west championships that's Not winning you. A Big twelve
Speaker 10: championship alex jenson's got to go. Out and get players
Speaker 10: and we all know to get players in today's world
Speaker 10: is not about selling the coach And The Opportunity. Of
Speaker 10: salt lake city. It's freaking. Changing money let's go you.
Speaker 10: Gotta get some money you gotta. Simnil donors in there
Speaker 10: you freaking think the number one player in the country
Speaker 10: is going to just go down.
Speaker 5: And, PLoP into provo no.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 10: Gotta get money now we got to get a couple,
Speaker 10: of big time, players one or two kind of Like We,
Speaker 10: Did With, andre miller mike doliach and then you fill in,
Speaker 10: some In State, Guys The, britton Johnson's Jeff, Johnson's The,
Speaker 10: josh grants alex jenson's and then you have a coach
Speaker 10: that's got A brilliant. Mind Like majeris did alex. Jenson's
Speaker 10: is that coach. And now we're talking now, We're rocking
Speaker 10: and rolling. But think about It To get an Andre Miller,
Speaker 10: or a mike doliach or to keep those, two guys
Speaker 10: like say you know they, made, their names here right
Speaker 10: and then you keep, them for. Year two year, three,
Speaker 10: in today's world yeah you're gonna. Have To pay up
Speaker 10: otherwise andre Would have Transferred to texas and mike Would
Speaker 10: have transferred to oregon and they both would have. Made
Speaker 10: a million dollars so let's. Just not kid ourselves the
Speaker 10: name of the game is someone's gonna have to like
Speaker 10: donate some money or there's gonna have to be a
Speaker 10: big pay where you get, one or Two players and
Speaker 10: then alex Will get some good utah guys and he'll
Speaker 10: take care of the rest with his brilliant coaching and
Speaker 10: his preparation And his exes and o's and is his
Speaker 10: ability to find guys around him to go out and
Speaker 10: recruit the right people Like like Mcjeri's got jutty and
Speaker 10: donnie to get. To get the players so it's kind
Speaker 10: of it's, kind of my mind That's kind. OF what,
Speaker 10: I'm thinking i mean josh. Kind of said THAT but
Speaker 10: Other than i think josh mentioned that he would rely
Speaker 10: heavily on getting, the IN state guys and i think
Speaker 10: they're going to be our second tier guys.
Speaker 5: We need to get so.
Speaker 1: A couple of, things first of all when IT comes
Speaker 1: to and i was paraphrasing you without the, past COUPLE
Speaker 1: of weeks because i can remember oftentimes you Sharing stories
Speaker 1: about coach jaris ripping into this, player or that player,
Speaker 1: or you quite frankly but Never. Really DID with alex
Speaker 1: am i remembering that correctly and then attending to that
Speaker 1: tell us anecdotally some Of the things that rick Used To.
Speaker 1: Share about alex jensen he's on The record saying that
Speaker 1: alex was one of the smartest. Players HE ever coached
Speaker 1: but i, Seem to remember oftentimes britt you sharing a
Speaker 1: lot of, stories about That relationship and obviously alex went
Speaker 1: On to Coach with rick, Before RICK passed away so
Speaker 1: i wanted to get.
Speaker 10: Your, THOUGHTS on that Yeah I, specifically remember alex spence
Speaker 10: like on that final four, run during the year, especially
Speaker 10: in the tournament, me grabbing my jersey, screaming in my
Speaker 10: face the right spots to, be on the floor the right,
Speaker 10: way to position myself the. WAY to play somebody i
Speaker 10: remember him behind me screaming like force some left. Force
Speaker 10: and right timeouts we'd walk, Out of the timeouts he'd come,
Speaker 10: Over and grab me andre everybody and explain things he
Speaker 10: was he was a, coach from you know he probably
Speaker 10: started having a coaching mentality. Was five years old he
Speaker 10: just he was a player's coach and he. KNEW how, to,
Speaker 10: win i mean listen coach mcjeris did, all, the preparation.
Speaker 10: Stuff right he was he. Was the ultimate preparation get
Speaker 10: us all. In the hotel ballroom he had charts on
Speaker 10: the walls of every. Single player their tendencies he had his,
Speaker 10: assistant coaches doing that and then coach would do a,
Speaker 10: really good, job of you, know laying it out sort of.
Speaker 10: Teaching it to us but the execution of It. All
Speaker 10: came from alex, he Was The one and. Drew hansen,
Speaker 10: as well you know we just had smart, players On
Speaker 10: our team but alex was.
Speaker 5: THE leader of that i look at that.
Speaker 10: And kind of like football, term spans like that that
Speaker 10: smart quarterback that can become a, head, COACH one, day
Speaker 10: right i mean your energetic raw ra kind of dufices
Speaker 10: like me on the court were not. Born. To be
Speaker 10: Coaches Right it's like mike singletary who tried to coach.
Speaker 10: The forty nine ers you, look at the guy he
Speaker 10: would smash anybody.
Speaker 5: In front of him but ex's. And o's and coaches he.
Speaker 10: Didn't exactly work well alex just was was thinking like a,
Speaker 10: coach as a player and then he got, his chance,
Speaker 10: to coach you know IN The. In the g league
Speaker 10: he's An Assistant. Coach for saint louis he's an Assistant.
Speaker 10: Coach at The Jazz. He developed Rudy Gobert he taught,
Speaker 10: rudy gobert the game and And, and then sometimes spence
Speaker 10: it's just when you're sitting down and having conversations with
Speaker 10: someone and you're you're listening the way that the game
Speaker 10: kind of plays, out in their, mind and, you're like
Speaker 10: holy CRAP that's something that i would, have never, thought
Speaker 10: of You know like if, I'M playing this team i
Speaker 10: would pick up their point guard with my six, nine
Speaker 10: guy who's athletic just to disrupt the point guard in
Speaker 10: his fast break player. Or something like that alex would
Speaker 10: just say things about games and, situations and, you're like
Speaker 10: my gosh. That's actually really smart so along with What
Speaker 10: he learned from rick and preparing for games and just his,
Speaker 10: kind of brilliant exers he's GOING to be Phenomenal.
Speaker 5: I think for utah so.
Speaker 1: Your points about the collective, are VERY well taken and
Speaker 1: i said this a couple of times over the past
Speaker 1: few weeks as the search was, kind of Going on
Speaker 1: whether It's Alex, whether it's richard Patino Whether, you resurrect rick,
Speaker 1: macjeris whoever it is Is Going to Ask Mark harlan
Speaker 1: and taylor randall. Simply the same question where? Are we
Speaker 1: at economically what is the financial? Infrastructure OF this program
Speaker 1: can i keep up with not just The schools, in
Speaker 1: the big twelve But, every school across america not the
Speaker 1: least of which britt is a school about forty miles
Speaker 1: down south that this year has two seven figure players
Speaker 1: on their roster and next year is paying aj debants
Speaker 1: is seven mil for. Five months of basketball so as you,
Speaker 1: talk to you know your former teammates and other people,
Speaker 1: connected to THE program what is I guess the, way
Speaker 1: i'll ask you brit is what's the confidence? Level They're
Speaker 1: Right now the CRIMSON collective or whatever utah is going
Speaker 1: to utilize for the economic health of the program is
Speaker 1: where it needs, to be to compete because it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter how, Good your coach is like there's no such thing.
Speaker 1: As a great coach did. Not have great players you,
Speaker 1: have TO have talents And i don't think craig had,
Speaker 1: enough talent quite frankly but. That's a different topic is
Speaker 1: there is there optimism and confidence in the alumni base
Speaker 1: that this school is where it needs to be to support. Its, Basketball,
Speaker 1: program financially.
Speaker 10: Yeah no it's a great. IT'S a great. QUESTION i
Speaker 10: don't know i don't know, numbers on THE budget but
Speaker 10: and i just know that, there, needs to be obviously
Speaker 10: something brought to The table to give alex, something to
Speaker 10: work with, Because you're absolutely right alex can be as
Speaker 10: good of a coach as. We possibly, can get he,
Speaker 10: is but you know but the but the players got
Speaker 10: to be able to utilize the. Coaching or be talented
Speaker 10: and it's It's like it's, like i've always said EITHER you,
Speaker 10: or somebody i Said You can Give, stevie wonder a
Speaker 10: corvette doesn't mean, he, Can drive it right So You
Speaker 10: can give alex jensen and all of his amazing coaching
Speaker 10: to a, bunch of crappy players doesn't mean they're gonna be.
Speaker 5: Able to utilize it you got.
Speaker 10: To GET good players and i DON'T think he Needs
Speaker 10: i don't think alex needs six to. SEVEN eight phenomenal
Speaker 10: players i think he needs two, to three And honestly.
Speaker 10: That's what majerius did that was his. And THAT was his, Like,
Speaker 10: i said earlier ZAMBO he, had three nba guys maybe
Speaker 10: a fourth in me who dipped HIS toes, in the
Speaker 10: nba waters And a fifth with alex, himself a little
Speaker 10: bit but you get. Three just absolute studs and we've got.
Speaker 10: To find a way the university has to find A,
Speaker 10: way to, give alex you know a. Budget TO do that,
Speaker 10: and i, think again you know everyone can say, they're
Speaker 10: a good coach but there really are just some that
Speaker 10: get the game. AT an INTELLIGENT level i apologize i,
Speaker 10: keep using football terminology but there's just some of those
Speaker 10: special coaches out there right that you see that know
Speaker 10: how to take whatever Roster They have a nick saban
Speaker 10: right and turn it into a championship caliber team Because
Speaker 10: it's not the texas and though, it's culture as well
Speaker 10: and you you create a culture that's like when you,
Speaker 10: come into this practice no one's better. Than the other
Speaker 10: person everyone treats, each other the same everyone works just
Speaker 10: as hard. As the, Other person you. KNOW i'll never
Speaker 10: forget i think IT was you and i were either
Speaker 10: questioning or Asking questions to coach papovich or We Were
Speaker 10: listening to david locke Ask him questions and Papovich said something.
Speaker 10: That i'll, NEVER forget he said I Can yell at
Speaker 10: tim DUNCAN the same way i can. Yell at a
Speaker 10: rookie and that's culture that he Created there at the
Speaker 10: spurs that made them such, a Winning franchise forever, and,
Speaker 10: mitjeris created that right, Winning coaches Create that that's what
Speaker 10: alex will. Be able, to create so again three to
Speaker 10: if you can, get four yeah studs but, THE rest
Speaker 10: of them i think he'll be able To recruit players
Speaker 10: From Utah or the mountain west area and just make
Speaker 10: up for what he doesn't have in a depth of
Speaker 10: seven players with really good, coaching with. Team BASKETBALL you
Speaker 10: Know so I hope spans and i believe that they're,
Speaker 10: capable of doing it that they can come up with
Speaker 10: a budget, to take, care of you know some. Of
Speaker 10: those big stars it might, not, happen NEXT year right
Speaker 10: but i Think as you give alex a chance to
Speaker 10: prove himself and he brings in some awesome assistance that
Speaker 10: can go out there and, FIND the right players.
Speaker 5: I think, it's doable all right.
Speaker 1: Let me move in this, DIRECTION because you know i
Speaker 1: can remember talking with you and some Other Alums as
Speaker 1: the larry kroscoviac era, was kind of unfolding and it
Speaker 1: FELT like there were i don't want, to Speak for
Speaker 1: you so i'm just gonna ask the question and. Give
Speaker 1: you the space it felt like there were maybe some
Speaker 1: alums That didn't feel. Like larry, was embracing you know
Speaker 1: That element of. WHAT utah basketball is, i Don't fully
Speaker 1: recall but i'm bringing It up because Then i'm gonna
Speaker 1: play devil's advocate, Here, A little bit, Brent and then
Speaker 1: again i'm just gonna lay back and. Give you THE
Speaker 1: space because when, i add josh on he referenced that
Speaker 1: a lot of Alums attempted to contact craig, during the
Speaker 1: four years and he wasn't necessarily. Amenable to those. Connections
Speaker 1: paraphrasing a bit you can Go Listen to the josh
Speaker 1: grant interview up. On our, podcast PAGE and look while
Speaker 1: i look AS much as anybody i respect and Appreciate
Speaker 1: the history of utah basketball and guys like you and
Speaker 1: that team THAT was around when i was in school with,
Speaker 1: YOU as your peer i don't know that it really
Speaker 1: is the job of the head coach to answer every
Speaker 1: alumni phone call when you have. A, job to do,
Speaker 1: SO to be clear i think there is a, role.
Speaker 1: FOR past, utes certainly I mean now that, Alex is
Speaker 1: the coach i'm. Sure it will change but what's fair
Speaker 1: to say about what portion of the job description says
Speaker 1: that that's something that You need to do and how do,
Speaker 1: You balance that line britt between appeasing the alums and.
Speaker 1: Also doing your job? Does, that make sense yeah.
Speaker 10: It's A good question every i feel like every alumni
Speaker 10: former player feels like they're not getting. TREATED like, GOOD
Speaker 10: enough I mean i remember i was mentored BY Some
Speaker 10: dude TO nc state when I Was, in the d
Speaker 10: league and he was COMPLAINING To me the nc state wasn't.
Speaker 10: Treating him good enough AND yet he and i sat
Speaker 10: on the FRONT Row Of An nc state, north Carolina
Speaker 10: basketball game, and, i'm looking around like what? Are you,
Speaker 10: Complaining about YOU know i've, heard byu, football players you
Speaker 10: know COMPLAIN that they're not i kind of feel like
Speaker 10: that it's just, something we all like if we're not
Speaker 10: getting all the gear we want and not being treated with,
Speaker 10: like front row tickets we all. JUST bitch and complain
Speaker 10: i think it's kind OF. Just, IN our, Dna so
Speaker 10: i mean josh might be, right about some STUFF but Every,
Speaker 10: time i called, craig he was nice, invited me to
Speaker 10: practice had me. Speak To the team but i'm a
Speaker 10: real likable guy and so people really.
Speaker 5: Liked having me.
Speaker 10: Around Something, Difference there, and josh i'm, LIKE he you
Speaker 10: know i don't know if i'd invite him.
Speaker 5: To, The dinner. Table No i'm kidding, if josh is
Speaker 5: listening he's gonna.
Speaker 10: HATE my guts listen i just think everyone kind of
Speaker 10: gets that still AND that mentality like i should be
Speaker 10: being treated, better. And who knows Right maybe maybe for
Speaker 10: craig because the team, wasn't doing that great it was
Speaker 10: hard for him to have some Of The former. Superstars
Speaker 10: josh grant around maybe for, him and his staff it
Speaker 10: just felt like almost like they. Were letting us, down
Speaker 10: so it's like what do you? Think they're gonna do
Speaker 10: call us up and invite us over? For breakfast, every morning,
Speaker 10: PROBABLY not, you, know i mean. Look winning solves everything
Speaker 10: it even solves like all of us former alumni guys
Speaker 10: boohoonne that we're not. Getting good enough treatment if if,
Speaker 10: the program is winning the doors. Are open and everyone they,
Speaker 10: want everyone to practice they want everyone. A part of
Speaker 10: it but That would just be My guess is that
Speaker 10: craig was probably not feeling like all that great and, And,
Speaker 10: AND you, know josh i know has A, good relationship
Speaker 10: with alex and so maybe they're Maybe he'll be inviting
Speaker 10: josh in every once in. A while into practice i don't,
Speaker 10: know What he wants but alex is going to, bring his,
Speaker 10: own team, his own you know his own coaching. STAFF
Speaker 10: that he wants I keep hearing rumor spence That He.
Speaker 10: MIGHT get andre miller i think it would be a smart,
Speaker 10: Move TO do that but i don't know right until
Speaker 10: you're like in that coaching world and you you're making
Speaker 10: all those daily, decisions and phone calls and you're in the,
Speaker 10: trenches the bus, trips the plane, trips the hotel trips
Speaker 10: and you're around the personalities you know that are going.
Speaker 10: To help, you, Win WHO knows right so i actually
Speaker 10: Have no idea who alex is going. TO bring, On
Speaker 10: board i mean i've had people texting me tell outs.
Speaker 10: To bring, you, In i'm like yeah I've Been working
Speaker 10: for general motors for the last nine years, in the
Speaker 10: car world he's going? To bring me in WHAT the
Speaker 10: hell am i going to tell all these players your
Speaker 10: tires look like they they have. Bad, Tread on, them
Speaker 10: like i'm like. People are so funny you should call you.
Speaker 10: To be, an, assistant, i'm, like good hell no he's
Speaker 10: not going to call me to Be an assistant if
Speaker 10: i'm going to.
Speaker 4: Go cheer, him on you know?
Speaker 1: Would you? Be interested for real would you be interested
Speaker 1: in being An Assistant? COACH for alex no i.
Speaker 10: Would be flattered, If he, ASKED me but no i.
Speaker 10: WOULD not be interested i just want. HIM to do
Speaker 10: well i want the, university TO do well and i.
Speaker 10: JUST want to quit i want to keep on complaining
Speaker 10: as A former player that i'm not getting, ENOUGH gear.
Speaker 1: And look i don't, mean, To, be disrespectful right, like
Speaker 1: by the? Way CAN you Imagine and i told josh
Speaker 1: this when we joined the show for our younger youth
Speaker 1: fans who didn't get. To See Him play if josh
Speaker 1: grant was born like ten, or fifteen years later he
Speaker 1: would have been A fifteen. Year.
Speaker 5: On, Ba. GAY yeah probably yeah.
Speaker 1: I always say. THAT about you too i don't mean.
Speaker 10: To, rub it, In no it's okay you've told me.
Speaker 10: That hundreds of times we've had wonderful. CONVERSATIONS on, that
Speaker 10: listen i mean you can sit and play the, game
Speaker 10: all the, TIME like you know i. SHOULD have dis
Speaker 10: career i. Should have that career at the, END of
Speaker 10: the day i got To Play, IN the national championship
Speaker 10: i got. To make amazing friends and now, when we
Speaker 10: have barbecues we all just sit around and make Fun
Speaker 10: Of coach with jeris god rest his, soul as he's
Speaker 10: dead and we just we, laugh our heads OFF you,
Speaker 10: know what i mean because what else is there to
Speaker 10: do other than just try to make fun of the
Speaker 10: situations we were in that. Were actually pretty brutal you
Speaker 10: would probably consider a lot of them. Straight up mental
Speaker 10: abuse the. Way he coached us he ain't coaching that.
Speaker 10: Way in today's world i'll. Tell you, that, much, but
Speaker 10: no no No.
Speaker 5: You can't go no But we had good we had a.
Speaker 10: Good group, of guys funny enough we, still have a
Speaker 10: thread a text, Message Thread, With, Myself Jeff, nick Jacobson Trace.
Speaker 10: Ktan and chris, burgess he's on there but we spend
Speaker 10: most of the TIME just ripping on byu because we're
Speaker 10: still mad at him for being a trader and leaving us.
Speaker 10: And going down there but we've kept him on the
Speaker 10: thread just because we feel like it's still the, good thing,
Speaker 10: to do.
Speaker 1: YOU know for sure i actually wondered if They would
Speaker 1: talk to burge about taking. The head coaching job but Since,
Speaker 1: you brought up burgess let, Me, move OVER here Britt,
Speaker 1: because i love.
Speaker 5: BURGESS by the way i think he's A, trader.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't Yeah, he's a good. Yeah everybody loves birds
Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing. Not to love it If You,
Speaker 1: don't like chris burgess, it's a, you problem quite, frankly but,
Speaker 1: let me let me let. Me discuss this dynamic you'll
Speaker 1: be good with, This because You know i've known alex
Speaker 1: a long Time. And his wife, natalie they're great people
Speaker 1: but you know them ON a. Level That i don't
Speaker 1: AND alex is what i would describe as a little.
Speaker 1: BIT of an introvert i don't think, that's a, Bad
Speaker 1: thing per se and don't mistake his quiet nature for
Speaker 1: anything other. Than him being introspective, But, is he going
Speaker 1: britt to have to come out of the? Show a
Speaker 1: little bit and you know a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: are a little bit quiet and. A little bit dry
Speaker 1: are the funniest guys behind the scenes with. Loud and
Speaker 1: funny personalities they just don't like to be front. Facing
Speaker 1: of the public so if we take Away the dynamic
Speaker 1: of alex as a coach and, a player developmental mind which,
Speaker 1: He's obviously elite, at alex the person what does that
Speaker 1: look like, on the recruiting, trail.
Speaker 10: You know what he'll, probably, have to adjust right just
Speaker 10: like all of us when we go into some kind.
Speaker 10: Of a new situation this is his first head coaching
Speaker 10: job as the. Face Of the, program, but alex actually,
Speaker 10: yeah he's.
Speaker 5: A funny. Witty guy YOU know he and i have
Speaker 5: a lot of the. Same similarities and movies we joke.
Speaker 5: About the same stuff.
Speaker 10: But, as far, as like you know just going in
Speaker 10: and sitting down in a living room and kind of,
Speaker 10: BRIGHTENING the, place up i mean that's okay that that's
Speaker 10: not like his like exactly like like, his number one
Speaker 10: strength but his ability to probably sit and tell a
Speaker 10: parent why his coaching style and what he already knows
Speaker 10: about the player and what they need to get better
Speaker 10: at and how he'll help THEM get to the nba
Speaker 10: or how he'll help them have the best career possible
Speaker 10: will probably be how he'll close deals, and so and
Speaker 10: WIN you, Know what i mean that's that's going. To
Speaker 10: be his strength will he probably find HIMSELF needing to,
Speaker 10: to i don't know get. A, LITTLE more enthusiastic. MAYBE i,
Speaker 10: don't know i, Mean for heaven's sakes mattereris came in
Speaker 10: my living ROOM and told me i looked like an
Speaker 10: age victim.
Speaker 5: Right to my.
Speaker 10: FACE to my parents I still sign and i still
Speaker 10: signed to go. Play WITH the guy so i did
Speaker 10: it BECAUSE they kept saying i Would Be the next van, horn.
Speaker 10: Or you know universe utah is the place to PUT,
Speaker 10: people into the, nba, so you know yeah thanks coach.
Speaker 5: For the WONDERFUL compliment? Where?
Speaker 10: Do i sign, yeah, kind OF weird right. But I,
Speaker 10: still went so again that was a different era, Than
Speaker 10: THE ERA.
Speaker 5: Today so, I i will adjust he'll.
Speaker 10: He'll figure it out he's actually a pretty fun, guy
Speaker 10: To be Around so i'm not i'm. Not worried about
Speaker 10: that and he's going to get some fun some probably.
Speaker 10: PRETTY dynamic, assistant coaches I mean that's where I Would
Speaker 10: ACTUALLY love i if i think about Being, AN assistant
Speaker 10: coach fance i would have a lot of fun going
Speaker 10: to people's living rooms and selling their kid on why
Speaker 10: they they would thrive and have A Phenomenal experience In,
Speaker 10: salt lake in utah, being around you, know incredible people there.
Speaker 5: Building a network there. It's a strong.
Speaker 10: Economy so if they want to try to have a,
Speaker 10: business mindset after. Basketball there's OPPORTUNITY.
Speaker 5: There that's where.
Speaker 10: I Would have fun but i'm too locked into a
Speaker 10: CAREER right now where i, don't Want to leave and
Speaker 10: i'm not About To pull a Josh grant and gog
Speaker 10: alex to, hire me on RADIO you.
Speaker 1: Know what i.
Speaker 5: Mean i'm just kidding, he didn't do that but it kind.
Speaker 1: Of, felt, Like That wow wow britton johnson coming, Off
Speaker 1: the top rope you're gonna get.
Speaker 10: A text for you you've heard the interview he was
Speaker 10: he Was pretty much making it's Not Like he and jimmy.
Speaker 5: Soto should be hired. Thought it was, funny, Good for HIM.
Speaker 1: Man britt AND i can probably. I conducted the interview.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it i was the, one who.
Speaker 10: Interviewed, HIM that's right see I didn't put those i
Speaker 10: didn't put. Two and two together, you heard, THE interviews
Speaker 10: as hey i thought it was those bleep those bleepy
Speaker 10: you know what's down the street. ON the other station
Speaker 10: i don't know.
Speaker 1: What you're, talking about you know you have to you
Speaker 1: have to pull ratings to. Exist in this market only
Speaker 1: one afternoon. Drive show does so.
Speaker 10: One the ones that THICKEN fired me because i forgot
Speaker 10: the general. Managers, MEETING those.
Speaker 1: Guys, yeah i don't again it does not. STRIKE in
Speaker 1: a chord i don't know, what you're, Talking About you
Speaker 1: know lord voldemart stuff. Over on, THIS program you know
Speaker 1: i appreciate how. SELF deprecating you are i honestly think
Speaker 1: you'd be. A PHENOMENAL assistant coach i i really believe.
Speaker 1: THAT to be true i know, that you're locked in
Speaker 1: and you've, got a good career and, you guys, are
Speaker 1: doing you Know doing well down. South AND ALL that
Speaker 1: but i i always tried to BUILD up your Like
Speaker 1: I was the Doc Rivers to the britton johnson on
Speaker 1: THE radio right like i was trying to build up
Speaker 1: your confidence and remind you THAT you. Are an nba
Speaker 1: player you did, have a great career and you were
Speaker 1: again just a few years too late with how the modern.
Speaker 1: Day game is played you would have played in the
Speaker 1: PROS for for the, nba in you know for, More,
Speaker 1: THAN a decade britt i. Appreciate the self. DEPRECIATE here's
Speaker 1: the deal a guy built like YOU needs. The confidence
Speaker 1: i have the guy WITH the confidence that i have needs.
Speaker 1: To build like yours if if there was some way,
Speaker 1: to merge our strengths it would it would be we'd
Speaker 1: be the white lebron together as what, would be.
Speaker 5: Who's, wait wait a minute whose face?
Speaker 1: Would we, take mine, come, on come, on dude come on.
Speaker 5: Because You look LIKE bradley cooper.
Speaker 4: And, I.
Speaker 1: Stop it see i appreciate. You're, A. Handsome guy look.
Speaker 1: Lindsay lindsay's at ten she's. Not marrying, some goob all right,
Speaker 1: Take that as.
Speaker 5: Right like, you know she, doesn't, SO take that man.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Lindza, is the. Best yeah he's great this is bringing
Speaker 1: this is. Bringing back GOOD memories so before i, See
Speaker 1: but that's, okay OH good man before, i set you
Speaker 1: loose you've kind. Of alluded to it the rumors are andre.
Speaker 1: As The lead assistant now andrea IS Coaching. In the,
Speaker 1: G league and look i OBVIOUSLY as a gen x
Speaker 1: or somebody who grew up in the nineties believes that
Speaker 1: the instant credibility and cashier you have when you walk
Speaker 1: Into A gym with andre miller on your bench is too.
Speaker 1: GOOD to pass up i don't know if the. Younger
Speaker 1: generation BELIEVES that but before, i set you loose what
Speaker 1: would you have to say to our listeners about the
Speaker 1: Type of assistant that Andre would make if alex goes
Speaker 1: In that direction and. Andre Takes, The job.
Speaker 5: Oh man And.
Speaker 10: My interactions with andre are always like surprising, because he
Speaker 10: was quiet but he's one of those guys that when
Speaker 10: you just get him talking and you get him kind
Speaker 10: of loosened, up a little bit he starts to, like
Speaker 10: really tell you like just how experienced. HE is, in
Speaker 10: life i mean because he grew up in one of
Speaker 10: the poorest aories Of, The, country in compton california but
Speaker 10: grew up with a phenomenal mom, that put education really really.
Speaker 10: High as a priority and then you take A black
Speaker 10: kid from compton Who Absolutely, Thrived, in, salt lake utah.
Speaker 5: Right and then he goes and HAS a.
Speaker 10: Nineteen year nba. CAREER now he's coaching i was with
Speaker 10: him when he learned A Water. Ski in lake powell
Speaker 10: he's one of these guys that he's always he's always
Speaker 10: absorbing information and trying to learn, as much as possible
Speaker 10: and you just. Appreciate that about him he's, easy to
Speaker 10: be around he's, fun to be around and he Makes
Speaker 10: you a better he's going to make you better player if.
Speaker 10: You Play with him but i'm almost, positive as a
Speaker 10: coach he's going to be. Able to, teach people you know,
Speaker 10: What he went through he's gonna be able to teach
Speaker 10: that and help them to gat make, themselves a better
Speaker 10: player whether, that's on the court whether that's making. Better
Speaker 10: Decisions in life andre andre coming from probably, not the,
Speaker 10: greatest influences you know In his child and i'm not
Speaker 10: talking about his, parents or his family but you know
Speaker 10: some of the trouble that you can get in in
Speaker 10: an area, like that growing up he became an incredible
Speaker 10: human being and made, a ton for himself not, only
Speaker 10: just in basketball but he's he's quite the. BUSINESS mind
Speaker 10: as well i know He And our.
Speaker 5: Buddy nick jacobson.
Speaker 10: Do some businesses together but then you don't just get
Speaker 10: handed a head COACHING Job in the g league in
Speaker 10: today's world unless you know, you're a good coach.
Speaker 5: Unless you show that you. CAN lead a team i
Speaker 5: think You.
Speaker 10: WOULD be phenomenal spins i don't know how you wouldn't.
Speaker 10: Want to take him.
Speaker 5: That Ultimately Is.
Speaker 10: UP to alex jansen i know that there's some. OTHER
Speaker 10: candidates out There i know that alex Is Still, close
Speaker 10: With Donnie daniels and donny daniels's son is coaching in the.
Speaker 5: College ranks right now.
Speaker 10: He's a Phenomenal coach and then alex probably has a
Speaker 10: list of guys that he's PASSED through in his nba
Speaker 10: career And His time at saint louis that we don't
Speaker 10: even know about that.
Speaker 5: He could bring in.
Speaker 10: That would, Be, awesome so, Yeah andre to, me phil's
Speaker 10: you know sounds. Like a No brainer but but I'm
Speaker 10: Gonna trust whatever alex jensen?
Speaker 1: Does you know what do you have time for one
Speaker 1: more because you? Just jarred by mind do you have time?
Speaker 2: For?
Speaker 10: ONE more question hey i mean your listeners are like
Speaker 10: just listening with, all yours right now like people have
Speaker 10: pulled over on the side of the road.
Speaker 4: To keep this.
Speaker 1: Going so let's go now that's what we DO that
Speaker 1: you and i, it's what, We do all right? So
Speaker 1: one more questionnaire because you just you just jarred something
Speaker 1: YOU Played, in the d league WHICH Is. Now The
Speaker 1: G league and Richard, smith you know smithy he's now
Speaker 1: a consistent. Guest on the show he did a really
Speaker 1: good job of kind of laying everything out last week
Speaker 1: about how hard it is TO Coach in the g
Speaker 1: league because, whether you're a player, whether you're a coach
Speaker 1: whether you're a front office exec or, a broadcast or
Speaker 1: whatever you don't. Want to be there you are there
Speaker 1: as a, means to an end as a conduit. To, The,
Speaker 1: big leagues so john what Does that say about alex,
Speaker 1: that in a difficult challenging coaching SPOT He won a
Speaker 1: g LEAGUE Title And won g League. Coach of the year?
Speaker 10: What, does, that say well listen it says it's enormous
Speaker 10: because everyone is like a wild dog, going after you
Speaker 10: know a mill that it hasn't had. For like, twenty
Speaker 10: days everyone's. Hungry you know players it was, funny BECAUSE
Speaker 10: you know when I Was, in the g, League in, my,
Speaker 10: mind i'm like okay this is in AS, hard as
Speaker 10: the nba but it WAS harder than the nba in. A,
Speaker 10: lot of WAYS spence you and I said and watched
Speaker 10: nba games guys don't play defense. The first three quarters
Speaker 10: there was there WAS a Night When i GUARDED kevin garnett,
Speaker 10: and i was, like oh my gosh like he doesn't
Speaker 10: seem like he cares. THAT he's guarding me i kind
Speaker 10: of just thought it because he could tell us because
Speaker 10: HE didn't. Know who i was but he's playing eighty
Speaker 10: two games and they start, to kind of sagger they,
Speaker 10: start to, sort of you know drag a little bit
Speaker 10: in the, middle of the season and then they saved it.
Speaker 10: For the fourth QUARTER Where, IN The, g league d,
Speaker 10: league the minor leagues from the moment, the ball goes
Speaker 10: up it's one. Hundred miles per hour everyone's trying to.
Speaker 10: Get out of there every coach is coaching. As intense
Speaker 10: as possible the. Referees are dialed, in the front, office
Speaker 10: like you. Said is dialed in so the intensity of
Speaker 10: it was insane because everyone. Wanted out, of there so
Speaker 10: yes for him to win in. An, environment like that
Speaker 10: look IT wasn't, like the ncaa tournament but, there was
Speaker 10: a physicality physicality and an aggressive and aggressive kind of
Speaker 10: manner on the floor that reminded ME of like the,
Speaker 10: ncaa tournament because again it was like, every man for
Speaker 10: himself but everyone trying to just absolutely go as hard
Speaker 10: as possible because you looked up in the stands and
Speaker 10: IT was, Full of nba scouts and if it wasn't,
Speaker 10: full of the scouts he knew every game your agent
Speaker 10: was trying to get the best game possible to send it.
Speaker 10: To THE next team so I think it's A it's
Speaker 10: remarkable that alex won a championship in that league because
Speaker 10: he was coaching in in.
Speaker 5: A very, INTENSE environment so yeah.
Speaker 10: I think that's huge i'm glad.
Speaker 5: You brought that up so we.
Speaker 1: Have, a developing situation porter before, we catch a break
Speaker 1: you Inform Me that one josh grant is open to
Speaker 1: an in studio interview If we can Get Britten. Up,
Speaker 1: from saint george, yeah let's, do it, All right, sounds
Speaker 1: fun all right we'll see If. We can get britt
Speaker 1: maybe He's Up here for alex Jensen's. Press conference on
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Speaker 1: in the. World Of pro golf lucas glover's your leader
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse AT six Hundred Par byu and iowa
Speaker 1: state played a tremendous college. Basketball game this morning tipped
Speaker 1: off At Ten, thirty in kansas city, well ten thirty
Speaker 1: here but it Did Tip. Off in Kansas city it's
Speaker 1: The Phillips Sixty six big, twelve championship quarter final and
Speaker 1: you found out about two hours for tip that they
Speaker 1: were going to run into. Some Real, good fortune keishawn
Speaker 1: gilbert the Second Leading, scorer For Iowa, state and tamian
Speaker 1: Lipsei a two time Big Twelve point guard all, big
Speaker 1: twelve point guard did not, play due to injuries probably
Speaker 1: two of the Three Best players. On Iowa state's roster iowa.
Speaker 1: State came out gangbusters they could. Not Miss a shot
Speaker 1: curtis jones picked up the slack seven, to fifteen from three,
Speaker 1: he dropped thirty one and they could not miss. In
Speaker 1: THE first half and byu did everything they could just
Speaker 1: TO hang in because byu did not. Start off on
Speaker 1: fire then, IN the second half byu kind. Of flipped
Speaker 1: the script they were able, to knock down, shots and
Speaker 1: more importantly they Were able to contain iowa staying on
Speaker 1: THE defensive side and byu gets a win ninety. Six
Speaker 1: To ninety two brigham young has now won. Nine straight
Speaker 1: basketball games That is their, fifth quad one win and
Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks They went down To.
Speaker 1: McHale and Beat Arizona they Dumped, truck kansas and provo
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Speaker 1: team that once upon a time was thought To be
Speaker 1: a potential FINAL four. Dark Horse dot contender richie saunders
Speaker 1: continued just to play his way Into consideration For the
Speaker 1: big Twelve. Player of, The year quite frankly richie, Had
Speaker 1: twenty three points he had five assists and twenty. Six
Speaker 1: minutes Of play former uk. Bacata had ten boards he.
Speaker 1: Also had nine points trevinell hit all four of, his
Speaker 1: three point shots he Had fourteen and fustre ori off
Speaker 1: the bench had fifteen points on. Five OF six shooting
Speaker 1: so byu was able to advance now to the semi
Speaker 1: finals where they Are. Going to play houston houston actually
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a More difficult TIME with
Speaker 1: colorado than i. Think anybody was expecting houston went into
Speaker 1: the locker room at half with, A five, point lead
Speaker 1: i believe but ultimately was able to hold Off a
Speaker 1: pretty pesky colorado team that may have been the worst
Speaker 1: team of, the Conference all year and houston gets to
Speaker 1: win seventy. Seven to sixty Eight so NOW it's houston
Speaker 1: And Byu in the. Big twelve semi finals AND if you're,
Speaker 1: a byu fan man this is the team that's playing
Speaker 1: AS well as any byu, team In my opinion, since
Speaker 1: furdet was around Since It was the jimmer. Jimmer years
Speaker 1: they've had they had Some Good, teams under mark pope
Speaker 1: but when you look at, this team on paper maybe
Speaker 1: they don't have the. TOP end Pro talent i think
Speaker 1: diegor demon is going to be, a very good pro
Speaker 1: but he's got a lot of work to. Do On,
Speaker 1: his game kennon catchings who is their other thought to,
Speaker 1: be legit pro prospect actually. Did not play TODAY he
Speaker 1: has missed i.
Speaker 5: Think.
Speaker 1: Five STRAIGHT Games now so byu houston Tomorrow at, five
Speaker 1: o'clock mountain time And it is The Phillip Sixty six
Speaker 1: Big twelve championship semi final for the chance to Go
Speaker 1: play In. THE big twelve final byu at this point
Speaker 1: obviously is a LOCK to. Make the ncaa tournament can
Speaker 1: they get higher? THAN a five. SEED i, don't know
Speaker 1: i mean If they, WIN the big twelve i think
Speaker 1: you have to make an argument they might be a
Speaker 1: top three or. A top four Seed right now, In
Speaker 1: Big two Action texas tech leads. Baylor eighteen to eight
Speaker 1: Tonight it's Gonna be kansas and arizona and that game
Speaker 1: will be at SEVEN point THIRTY On. Espn and espn
Speaker 1: Plus The winner of kansas arizona we'll advance on to
Speaker 1: Play The Winner, of baylor texas tech and the winner
Speaker 1: of that game will PLAY the Winner. Of byu and
Speaker 1: houston so it Is. THE madness of march a lot
Speaker 1: of fun action. Going On right now utah states. Turn
Speaker 1: will be TONIGHT. They're taking on unlv that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a nine to thirty Tip time At The thomas And Max, Center.
Speaker 1: In Las vegas nevada utah state a slight. Favorite in
Speaker 1: that game this is a Quarterfinal, matchup for the aggies
Speaker 1: So We'll see if jared calhoun and his team can.
Speaker 1: Continue to, march on. YOU know it's interesting i was
Speaker 1: gonna do a segment today on prospects for you guys
Speaker 1: TO Watch during the Ncaa Tournament And, the march madness
Speaker 1: tournament or i should say. The conference championship tournaments but
Speaker 1: the Three best prospects for jazz fans to hone in
Speaker 1: on one we may not. See for a minute so
Speaker 1: the big story, out of college football excuse me college
Speaker 1: Basketball Today is that cooper Flagg had to LEAVE duke's
Speaker 1: win over I Think it. Was georgia Tech Today duke
Speaker 1: beat georgia tech seventy Eight To seventy and cooper flagg
Speaker 1: left that game, with a sprain ankle and if, you
Speaker 1: watch the replay it looks like one of those sprain
Speaker 1: ankles that could keep. You Out for weeks and duke
Speaker 1: has already ANNOUNCED that while the x, rays came back
Speaker 1: negative he is questionable the rest of THE way in
Speaker 1: the acc tournament and they don't know HIS Status. For
Speaker 1: The Ncaa, tournament so cooper flagg of course the best
Speaker 1: prospect in all of, college basketball this year but the
Speaker 1: other two prospects are. Going Home As well so dylan
Speaker 1: harper And If you, miss tony jones earlier Some good
Speaker 1: STUFF From, Tony On nba prospects dylan harper appears to
Speaker 1: have played himself into, that number two spot and. It's
Speaker 1: not Really close dylan AND rutgers lost to usc Yesterday Out,
Speaker 1: of the big ten which. Still Feels Really. Weird, BIG
Speaker 1: ten tournament Yesterday usc he took rutgers overtime. And Then
Speaker 1: Beat them so dylan harper. Played forty six minutes he,
Speaker 1: had twenty, seven points, eight assists, eight boards two steals.
Speaker 1: A couple of blocks he was only one, of eight
Speaker 1: from three did get to, the free throw line made
Speaker 1: all eight of. His free free Throws Then his teammate
Speaker 1: ace bailey yesterday in thirty, three minutes of play went
Speaker 1: seven to, thirteen from the, floor had, seventeen points. Seven
Speaker 1: boards three. Steals but they're done, they're not going. Dancing
Speaker 1: and they're done as It Pertains To, the big ten
Speaker 1: tournament it's weird that two OF the three best nba
Speaker 1: draft prospects plays for a team then went eight of
Speaker 1: eight and twelve in conference play and. Fifteen AND seventeen
Speaker 1: overall so i wasn't gonna, do That Segment today but
Speaker 1: cooper flag might not play the, rest OF the Way and.
Speaker 1: Usc Eliminated Rutgers yesterday the utah. Jazz are off tonight
Speaker 1: they're Gonna Welcome in the toronto raptors coming up tomorrow
Speaker 1: Night here and Saw Lake. At The delta center The
Speaker 1: jazz played the grizzlies last night and they had a
Speaker 1: one fifteen to One fourteen and then memphis scored the
Speaker 1: final eight. Points Of the game john moran hit a
Speaker 1: three Point shot and the jazz go. Home losers once
Speaker 1: again seven Straight. L's for the jazz they've lost nine
Speaker 1: of their last ten games in this battle to attempt
Speaker 1: to stay in the bottom. Three in pro basketball if
Speaker 1: you stay in the BOTTOM, three in the nba you
Speaker 1: have a fourteen percent chance at the, number one overall
Speaker 1: pick and hopefully you just stay in the top. Three
Speaker 1: In the draft the draft lottery night will Come, our
Speaker 1: way in May and, as a jazz fan that might
Speaker 1: be the next night you. Can Actually get excited the
Speaker 1: jazz were fine one hundred thousand dollars yesterday for violating the,
Speaker 1: league's player participation policy and it came As a result
Speaker 1: of lowry market and missing nine games when according to what,
Speaker 1: The league found. Out lowry was healthy. That's not breaking
Speaker 1: News we know that walker's been healthy when. They've held
Speaker 1: him out we know that. Marketing has been healthy we
Speaker 1: know that most of the players they hold out. Incrementally
Speaker 1: Have been healthy but lowry falls into what is categorized.
Speaker 1: As a quote player and the reason he falls into
Speaker 1: that category Is He. Was an all star now a,
Speaker 1: couple of years, ago not this, year not last year
Speaker 1: but the year before when the Game Was, Here in
Speaker 1: salt Lake Larry was an all star and that's recent
Speaker 1: enough for him to fall into this category that IF
Speaker 1: you are an nba team and you have a star player,
Speaker 1: quote unquote star player if you hold him out consecutively
Speaker 1: during a stretch, in which he's healthy and they also
Speaker 1: lean into road games. And Nationally televised games the jazz
Speaker 1: don't have any nationally televised games because nobody. Wants to
Speaker 1: watch them but this is this is the deal As
Speaker 1: a result of Larry Actually Making, the all star game
Speaker 1: and under these stipulations and, guidelines in pro basketball if
Speaker 1: you have one of those players on your roster and
Speaker 1: you make the decision to hold him out more than
Speaker 1: a few games when all indications, are that he's healthy. You,
Speaker 1: will be fine, now a Second offense if the, jazz
Speaker 1: do THIS again and, the nba, finds them, you know
Speaker 1: you know breaking these. Protocols the second offense the second
Speaker 1: offense will be a two hundred and, Fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: fine the third offense is a one point two, five
Speaker 1: million dollar fine and then every defense after that it's
Speaker 1: a million dollars. On TOP of it So i, know
Speaker 1: the jazz ownership they've. GOT plenty of money i can
Speaker 1: TELL you one thing i, know about rich people being around,
Speaker 1: a lot of them none of them. Like to Lose
Speaker 1: money so the jazz will walk them in the raptors
Speaker 1: as they continued kind of their. March to the bottom
Speaker 1: kind of A fun. Night of nba basketball Last Night
Speaker 1: Saw the oklahoma city thunder Take Care of THE Boston.
Speaker 1: CELTICS at td garden a lot of people believe THAT'S
Speaker 1: Kind of. An nba finals matchup. Only, time Will, tell
Speaker 1: cleveland certainly denver they'll have some things. TO say about
Speaker 1: that a little bit of a lighter night. In pro
Speaker 1: basketball tonight there was. Some Breaking news earlier darren fox
Speaker 1: is Having surgery for the spurs and so he's out the.
Speaker 1: Rest of the way We'll see if the spurs are
Speaker 1: fined because my guess is, he Doesn't Need it But
Speaker 1: San Antonio, loses victor weman yama and so they have
Speaker 1: decided to go all. In On being bad turner sports
Speaker 1: has a double. Dip for You tonight it's The lakers
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Speaker 1: is utah state tonight. And That's about it UTAH state's
Speaker 1: taking on unlv and you got. To stay up late
Speaker 1: that's a Nine to thirty. Pm Mountain Time tip utah
Speaker 1: Hockey Club and the utah jazz are. Both In Action
Speaker 1: tomorrow The hockey club's in seattle To Take on the kraken,
Speaker 1: what a weird Name and then The jazz are hosting
Speaker 1: toronto Tomorrow Night here in Salt Lake. At, THE delta
Speaker 1: center saturday i will. Bring Us Some Soccer The, utah royals,
Speaker 1: ali sendner my goodness she is a rising star in
Speaker 1: the world. Of women's professional soccer they are on The
Speaker 1: road at THE bay and then rsl is on The.
Speaker 1: Road taking on houston so that's. Your soccer weekend ahead,
Speaker 1: and then earlier today as we've, Discussed On the show
Speaker 1: brigham Young Took care of iowa state ninety six to
Speaker 1: ninety two to advance to these Semi finals Of the Big.
Speaker 1: Twelve championship, Against, houston all right porter hopefully we are
Speaker 1: not responsible For any. Ute on Youte Crime after, the
Speaker 1: Britton Johnson hit, THE josh grant hit i feel like
Speaker 1: we may have been directly responsible for what could. Become
Speaker 1: an untenable situation.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe or maybe we're responsible for a situation that
Speaker 2: could bring us some some really good radio in the means.
Speaker 2: Of getting them together, that's MY goal ultimately and i think.
Speaker 2: IT would be fun i think it would be fun
Speaker 2: because these two going back and forth on them, going
Speaker 2: back and forth but it's Really just the spider man meme.
Speaker 2: Pointing at each other they kind of sound exactly like Each,
Speaker 2: other outside, of britain you know being Very Content.
Speaker 1: Working for general motors.
Speaker 2: It seems like they're kind, of on similar wavelengths but
Speaker 2: approaching it maybe with, a little different perspective which is
Speaker 2: actually kind of. FUN to dive into.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest after Listening Back to, the britton
Speaker 1: johnson interview. Well a couple, THINGS first of all i
Speaker 1: cannot believe how bad my. Voice sounds this week so
Speaker 1: let me repeat this before. We say good night if
Speaker 1: this is your first time, LISTENING to this show i
Speaker 1: really hope you give us. ANOTHER shot next week I
Speaker 1: don't usually sound i am, sick as a dog so
Speaker 1: getting through these shows this week has. Been AN absolute
Speaker 1: bear but i did not understand how poor my voice
Speaker 1: sounded until. We Played that back but britton Took. Some shots,
Speaker 1: at josh you know he basically he said he was,
Speaker 1: begging For a job and i'm sure a Guy As
Speaker 1: proud as josh. Grant didn't love that but at the,
Speaker 1: end of the day hopefully it's all love because both
Speaker 1: of them, wanted the same Thing And that is alex
Speaker 1: jetson as the Head coach of the utes and. That's
Speaker 1: what we got, so there, You, Go all right porter
Speaker 1: before we get out Of, here for a thursday what
Speaker 1: comes Our way on a friday.
Speaker 2: Edition of The, Show, on a friday spence we will
Speaker 2: catch Up with a guy dave mcmannimon to he had
Speaker 2: To Stop on to sports center when he was gonna,
Speaker 2: come on with us so got.
Speaker 1: CALLED into.
Speaker 2: The flagship, I know More Important i guess chris camronnie
Speaker 2: will Stop by on a friday. As he Usually does
Speaker 2: paul pug meyer will give us THE Latest in. The pga,
Speaker 2: tour world of course we'll get the update live from,
Speaker 2: the tournament This weekend And then ken palm roy to,
Speaker 2: Finish off the week we're gonna spend an entire hour
Speaker 2: with probably the premiere voice And IT Comes To. Bracketology
Speaker 2: ncaa March Madness it Is Ken palm and ken palmroy to,
Speaker 2: finish off the Week, going into selection sunday going into
Speaker 2: conference tournament. STUFF should be exciting.
Speaker 1: I can promise you if you are tasked with, filling
Speaker 1: out a bracket whether, it's a family challenge a friend,
Speaker 1: challenge or work challenge and you don't, Know What you're
Speaker 1: doing ken palmeroy is the guy that, You should listen
Speaker 1: to so. Tune in For that, on a friday show,
Speaker 1: We'll say goodnight, Special Thank, You Too, Tony Jones, josh
Speaker 1: grant neil smith as Well As. The great britain Johnson
Speaker 1: for any of saundy may have, missed from the show
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