WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.279 KFI AM six forty. 2 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:05.759 You're listening to Dean Sharp the House Whisper on demand 3 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:07.679 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:12.240 Thanks for joining us on the program. Today. 5 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:15.359 We're talking about the best of the Consumer Electronics show 6 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:17.800 that just took place in Las Vegas a couple of 7 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.839 weeks ago, and that we all kind of skipped over 8 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:23.160 because of all the wildfire activity. Well, I haven't let 9 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:27.239 that go unnoticed, so we're hitting it now. But right now, 10 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:30.160 as is our custom, top of the hour, it is 11 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:32.479 time to go to the phones. I want to talk 12 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:37.759 to Alexis. Hey, Alexis, welcome home. Do I have Alexis? 13 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:38.359 Hello? 14 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:42.000 Hi, buddy, you're doing I'm good. 15 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:42.799 How are you doing? 16 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:44.840 I'm good? How can I help you? 17 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:49.119 Okay? So I'm going to consolidate this if I can. 18 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:53.920 About eighteen years ago, I had a renovation and an 19 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:58.560 addition added to my bedroom, extending at about three hundred 20 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:02.920 square feet. I have it's on a slab and I 21 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:07.439 have two inch hardwood floors. On top of that, I 22 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:10.359 have a French door on one wall that leads out 23 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:14.719 to a patio. And everything was fine for about until 24 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:18.239 about four years ago, and I noticed the floor was 25 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:22.359 cupping and then it got I think with the rains, 26 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.799 it got really worse, and I looked around. It started 27 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:31.040 buckling too in certain spaces, so I looked around for water. 28 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:34.040 There was no water, no signs of water on the floor, 29 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:39.840 nothing on the walls, nothing coming through the doors. And 30 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:43.879 when the rains stopped, I had the floor replaced and 31 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:47.959 told the flooring guy the whole situation, and we took 32 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.959 the floor out, and I had a contractor come and 33 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:55.200 checked for rain, for water. He checked the roof, he 34 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:59.040 checked the gutters. He felled the whole exterior of that 35 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.400 side of the wind of the French doors and the 36 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:06.400 sides near the gutters, just in case. And I had 37 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:12.560 the floor replaced and it started cupping again. So I 38 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:16.599 suspect that I'm going to have the floor redone, but 39 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.879 I don't want to have it redone again until I 40 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:22.280 can try to figure out what do I look for. 41 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.919 I bought a moisture meter and I've been doing readings, 42 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.400 although I don't know what I'm talking about or what 43 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:33.479 they mean. And the highest that it got was on 44 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:40.080 to a fourteen, but usually they averaged probably twelve. And 45 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:44.479 the place that they replaced the floor was the length 46 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.120 of the room, but probably two two and a half 47 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:49.599 feet out. They didn't do the whole room because the 48 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.840 rest of the room is fine, and even parts of 49 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:57.599 the replacement floor had been fine. So I don't know 50 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:58.159 what to do. 51 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:04.599 Okay, my friend, it's a tough situation, but you are 52 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:06.280 you're headed in the right direction. 53 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:06.879 Okay. 54 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.240 Now I'm not going to speak to all the ceiling 55 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.280 of the outside. Here is your situation. It doesn't sound 56 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.240 like you've got a leak. It doesn't sound like you've 57 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:19.639 got anything from up above. It is groundwater. Somehow, something 58 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:24.080 about the slab when it was originally poured is not 59 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:30.520 resisting moisture coming up from underneath. Okay, the slab is 60 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:38.719 too moist. Okay, So you are correct in saying having 61 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.759 you know, having been hit twice by this. Now you 62 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:45.159 are correct in being gunshy to put anything else down 63 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:50.520 there until this problem is resolved. There are steps that 64 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:54.639 can be taken to help resolve the issue, but it 65 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:59.879 has to be done very very intelligently as we move forward, 66 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.840 other otherwise you're gonna end up with the exact same 67 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:03.520 problem again. 68 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:03.960 Okay. 69 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:07.840 So the we're talking about moist and a lot of 70 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:12.879 southern California. California homes have experienced an increase of slab 71 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:16.079 moisture because of these heavy rains that we've had over 72 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.600 the last couple of winters. Not so much this year clearly, 73 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:24.519 but uh, but prior to so that's been an issue. 74 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.000 And uh and and I have to say, I'm not 75 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.800 pointing fingers, because this can happen even when that everything 76 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:33.720 is done. Well, Uh, I'm not pointing fingers immediately at 77 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.160 a contractor, but I will tell you this. I have 78 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:41.639 seen bits of slab prep for homes slip over the 79 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.879 last few years because it's like, well, you know, do 80 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.759 I have to get all the viscuins stretched out just 81 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.160 perfectly or do you know so that it really is 82 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:56.600 holding back moisture of vapor barrier underneath your slab before 83 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:01.279 it was poured, you know, because it's been so dry, 84 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.439 and you know, climate change and everything's just going to 85 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:07.040 be super dry from here on out. So what's the 86 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:12.959 big deal? That's not proper thinking. The change that we're 87 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:17.600 seeing climatically here in California is basically, from what we 88 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.319 can tell, is going to point us toward climate extremes. 89 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.160 We're going to have some very dry years and then 90 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.040 some really wet years, and so on and so forth, 91 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.040 kind of ping ponging back instead of you know, the 92 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.519 mildness and the averages that we're used to. But the 93 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.759 point is this, when it comes to your slab, if 94 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.519 you're now, are you using a moisture meter that you 95 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.439 can actually make contact with the slab and you're getting 96 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:41.399 readings off of that. 97 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.519 Here, According to the instructions and the description of it, 98 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.759 it does, and it has it has different modes. One 99 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:54.199 is for masonry, one is for dry wall, one is 100 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:59.279 for hardwood floor, softwood floor. So I can't remember what 101 00:05:59.319 --> 00:05:59.600 it was. 102 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.000 You got a good meter and you're using it for masonry, 103 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:06.120 you know, or for concrete. I'll tell you right now. 104 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:11.519 The the the general accepted level, and every wood manufacturer 105 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:13.639 is going to tell you this in the fine print 106 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:18.560 of their actual literature, But the generally accepted level is 107 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:25.000 that the ideal moisture content. Well for you know, Hey, 108 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.560 I'm sorry, alexis I'm up against a break. I was 109 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.680 just alerted that I shouldn't go along here. Let me 110 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:33.240 pop you on hold and we're going to pick this 111 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:38.759 up right on the other side, okay, because I've got answers, Oh, all. 112 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.360 Right, you hold tight. Everybody else, hold tight. 113 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:44.040 We're going to see if we can solve this slab 114 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:47.560 moisture problem your Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. 115 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.879 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 116 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.480 KFI a M six forty. 117 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.480 I'm taking calls right now at this moment. 118 00:06:57.519 --> 00:06:59.879 Then we're going to get back to talking about the 119 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.800 best of the Consumer Electronics Show for Homes twenty twenty five. 120 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.439 But right now I've got Alexis on the line, got 121 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.240 her on hold, Alexis, are you still there? 122 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.160 I am okay. 123 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:16.240 So Alexis had a bedroom addition made to her house 124 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:20.600 a few years back, and she's had two different hardwood 125 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:26.600 floors laid down and they've cupped, they've buckled. She's had 126 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:30.439 contractors come out check for roof leaks and seal the 127 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.680 concrete on the outside of the house all around. She's 128 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:36.079 got a moisture meter that she's been using to try 129 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.639 and figure this out. And she's kind of just working 130 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:43.439 this problem on her own very intelligently. I could use 131 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.399 some help, and so Alexis, So, here's the thing. A 132 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.319 couple of questions real quick. Number one, the kind of 133 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:52.000 hardwood that you've been laying down. You said, did you 134 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.199 say two inch strip hardwood? Is this engineered hardware or. 135 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:55.959 Is it solid? 136 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:59.079 No? It's solid solid? 137 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:04.519 Yeah, okay, so this is solid oak hardwood. Is that 138 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:06.639 because you're trying to match the existing house? 139 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:08.079 Correct? 140 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:12.959 Okay? The most vulnerable houses. 141 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.439 I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, go ahead, no, no, fine, 142 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:19.720 the house was built when nineteen twenty eight. 143 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:22.600 Okay, that's what I thought. All right, So we're matching 144 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:27.519 the existing solid oak strip flooring. So we've got to 145 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:32.080 be super super careful because solid oak floor solid meaning 146 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:34.600 just one piece of wood from top to bottom, not 147 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.919 a plywood kind of situation, which is an engineered wood floor, 148 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:44.039 are the most the most vulnerable to moisture because they 149 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:48.559 have nothing. There aren't other layers of wood underneath the 150 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.759 finish layer that are set at, you know, at varying 151 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.519 angles to each other to resist cupping and buckling and 152 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.399 all of that kind of stuff. So yours is it 153 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:02.679 is not an possible situation, but it is the most 154 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:05.360 sensitive situations. We've got to be really careful about it. 155 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:08.960 Checking moisture in the slab and what'd you say? Your 156 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:09.759 readings were. 157 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:15.559 The highest I got was fourteen, but they averaged around twelve. 158 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:23.039 Okay, so that actually isn't high, very high for most 159 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.360 slab readings. But here is the thing, and I don't 160 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.240 know if you've been doing this. I'd be surprised if 161 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.080 you had been, so don't feel bad about it. But 162 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.159 it can be deceiving. Checking moisture in a slab can 163 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:43.480 be deceiving because it is part of the interior condition 164 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.080 space of our home. Whether you're using your air conditioner 165 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.840 which dries air it's a dehumidifier, or whether you're using 166 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:55.120 your heater to keep the space warm. The point is 167 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.360 there could be more moisture coming up through that slab 168 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:04.759 than your re Your moisture gauge is perceiving because the 169 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:08.919 surface of your slab is constantly being dried out by 170 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:12.600 the condition of the air inside the space. So in 171 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.360 other words, you may be getting a false read on 172 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:19.159 that to a certain degree. So here's how we resolve 173 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:24.399 that is you get yourself a small roll of a 174 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.879 thick viscuen plastic right like heavy duty, like six mil 175 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:31.639 four mil six mil plastic. You can find this at 176 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:34.360 the paint tile at the big box store. And a 177 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:36.279 small roll you don't need a you know, one hundred 178 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.600 foot long roll, just the smallest role you can find, 179 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.000 but I wanted to be heavy duty, so it lasts 180 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.159 for a while. And you're gonna cut let's take two 181 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:49.440 or three readings in the room. You're gonna cut yourself, 182 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.480 maybe a twelve by twelve or a twenty four by 183 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.679 twenty four square of this plastic, three of them. And 184 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.600 you're gonna get some heavy duty ducked tape, okay, and 185 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.000 you're gonna tape the on the edges. You're gonna tape 186 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:08.879 this plastic down to the slab, okay, in these three 187 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:12.360 or four locations, and then we're gonna wait a few days. 188 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:13.159 Okay. 189 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.720 What the plastic is gonna do. It's gonna keep the 190 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.200 air temperature and the dryness of the air inside your 191 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.399 house from flashing off the moisture that's really in the slab. 192 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:25.039 Okay. 193 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.159 In other words, it's gonna hold whatever moisture is in 194 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.240 that little one or two foot square area there. 195 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:32.440 It's gonna keep it there. 196 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:37.120 And then after you know, three or four days, maybe 197 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:40.480 even give it a week, then you're going to pull 198 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:44.320 back the plastic and test that slab right then, and there. Okay, 199 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:46.879 with that level, and we're gonna get the right reading 200 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:51.240 this time. Okay, Uh, that's gonna so it's gonna it's 201 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.799 gonna prevent the air from drawing out the slab. 202 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.279 So and that's all well and good. 203 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.720 I'm supposing that it's gonna be higher than you know, 204 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.080 fourteen plus percent. But the point is this, it is 205 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.240 still not a lost cause. We have installed very sensitive 206 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.759 wood floors on slabs that are very problematic. But this 207 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:13.679 is what it takes, and this is what I've the 208 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.080 only time I've got left for you now is to 209 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:19.720 tell you what it's going to take. There are there's 210 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:22.679 a process out there in which the very first thing 211 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:27.360 we want to do is we want to apply a 212 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:34.279 surface sealer and primer to the slab. Okay, a surface 213 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.559 seiler in primer. Now, this is not just any old 214 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:41.480 like oh, a concrete seiler like you know, like you 215 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.200 would find in the aisle the concrete out Now we're 216 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:50.440 talking about a professional hardwood prep sealer that actually is 217 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.000 designed to form a moisture barrier on the surface of 218 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.519 the concrete. It grabs onto the surface of the concrete 219 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.480 for we put it on nice and thick and it 220 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:03.080 forms a moisture barrier, but also it's a primer, meaning 221 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.639 that it is a special substance that is ready for 222 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.240 hardwood adhesive to grab onto it, because any other kind 223 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:14.120 of stuff out there could actually make the hardwood adhesive, 224 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:18.919 you know, do a worse job. So step one is 225 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:24.120 going to be used like Bostic. Bostic makes are hard 226 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.840 famous hardwood glue manufacturer. They make a product called roll Coat, 227 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:34.080 roll dash Coat, Cote. That's the kind of thing that 228 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.039 I'm talking about. It's not the only brand out there, 229 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:37.840 but it's the kind of thing I'm talking about. We 230 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:41.919 roll this out onto the floor, the whole floor, and 231 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:44.960 then we let it cure completely. And then I want 232 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:47.519 you to do that plastic test again and we're going 233 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:52.000 to see that the moisture content drops significantly, Okay, and 234 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.120 if necessary, we'll put two coats on, okay, of this 235 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:59.960 vapor barrier and moisture seal, and we'll retest it again. 236 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.240 But I guarantee you you're gonna get to the point 237 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:05.720 unless there's just water literally bubbling up through which it 238 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:07.279 doesn't sound like there is, you're going to get to 239 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.960 the point where we have got that moisture locked into 240 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:15.639 the slab not coming up and through, and then we're 241 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.159 gonna feel safe to lay down that sensitive hardwood floor, 242 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:23.639 but only with an adhesive that is in fact also 243 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.759 its own vapor barrier. And there are a lot of 244 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.720 hardwood floor adhesives out there that aren't vapor barriers. The 245 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:36.679 more expensive ones are great adhesives and also waterproof at 246 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:38.840 the same time. So by the time we get done 247 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:42.879 with this, we're gonna have three layers of vapor barrier 248 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:48.279 underneath your hardwood floor, and we're not gonna find cupping 249 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:49.360 a buckleg anymore. 250 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:55.120 Oh okay, okay, that is a process. 251 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.679 It is a process, but that's what has to happen. 252 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.440 Well, yeah, no, I have to do. I have to 253 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.399 do whatever it takes to make sure it's not going 254 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:06.600 to happen again. It's ridiculous to have the floor torn 255 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.600 up and put back down in the same situation. 256 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:10.840 Exactly. 257 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:13.360 Yeah, I'm going. 258 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:16.919 I'm thank you so much. 259 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.600 Use the plastic test first to get a better reading. 260 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.080 Then get your hands on talk to a contractor or 261 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:27.440 flooring contractor get your hands on some roll coat or 262 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:31.240 an equivalent process, get a couple of good layers down, retest, 263 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:36.240 and then only use a vapor barrier, waterproof flooring adhesive 264 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.960 when the time finally comes for your floor. All right, 265 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.120 my friend, I just wanted to take the extra time 266 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.799 to make sure you were in good shape, because that's 267 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.200 how we treat people around here. 268 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:49.720 All right, you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on 269 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:52.399 demand from KFI AM six forty. 270 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.120 Your Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. 271 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:01.480 We are talking about the consumer Electronics show that just 272 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.519 wrapped up a couple of weeks ago. Normally we'd get 273 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.000 to it right after it finishes up, but we've had 274 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.919 a few things on our mind here in southern California, 275 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:16.399 like wildfire disasters happening. So now that a little bit 276 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.759 more calm in the air, of course, we will continue 277 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:23.480 to cover all things related to these fires. The fact 278 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.320 of the matter is it's time for us to catch 279 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.600 up with some of these other items for the rest 280 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:32.960 of us. So the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas, huge, huge, 281 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:35.559 huge thing that happens every year. This was a banner 282 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:38.960 year some years. Admittedly, I think we're just kind of 283 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:43.039 cruising off the momentum of other changes, but this is 284 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:45.120 kind of a sea change show, or at least we're 285 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.960 starting to see it because of AI, which we've already 286 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.240 talked about some things. I told you that when we 287 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:55.000 got back to this, we're going to talk about a TV. 288 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:55.679 Now. 289 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:01.000 Yeah, there is like eight gabillion televisions on every year 290 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:05.839 at CEES, and I think in general, I don't know, 291 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:08.160 for me at least, and believe me, I'm all about 292 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:13.359 the tech, okay, but for me at least, it's we 293 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:17.480 get to a point where things are so good that 294 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:24.200 the micro infinitesimal changes or seemingly so or even big leaps, 295 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.359 they just don't seem that big anymore. I mean, we 296 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:32.160 saw six K, eight K TVs on display, and the 297 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:34.839 fact of the matter is we're really kind of approaching 298 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.759 the point where we're at retina level, meaning it doesn't matter, 299 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:42.559 like a twenty K television isn't going to look any 300 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.839 different to you and me than like a five K 301 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:50.960 television because our eyes just can't see all the rest 302 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:54.200 of that detail. It's just too small. In other words, 303 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.480 we've got it to the point where, yeah, yeah, I 304 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:58.960 don't see any pixels. I got my nose pressed up 305 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.319 against the screen and see any pixels. So you know, 306 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.839 and I'm not drawing a technical line. I'm sure you 307 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.559 Techi's out there are like, well, Dean, actually it's gonna 308 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.279 have to get to this low Okay, but you understand 309 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.480 the spirit of what I'm saying. For most of us 310 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:17.720 who are looking for a high definition experience on in television, 311 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:21.319 we're there and we've been there for an awful long 312 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:26.640 time now. So those little changes not so you know, 313 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.480 captivating for me, interesting but not captivating. But there is 314 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:35.039 a TV that was at the show that that I 315 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.559 do find very very interesting for other reasons. It's made 316 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:39.599 by Displace. 317 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:40.599 Okay. 318 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:43.880 Now you're like, that's not a major manufacturer. That is correct, 319 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.480 and and I'm not telling you to run out and 320 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:51.960 get it. Displace is a is not one of the 321 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:57.480 big television electronic manufacturers. They're one of the young newcomers 322 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:00.200 to the game. But they're doing some smart stuff and 323 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:04.519 their emphasis when it comes to a TV, the one 324 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:10.559 that we just saw, the Displaced TV a totally wireless television. Okay, 325 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:15.960 now wireless meaning no cables attached to it. It's communicating 326 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:21.880 via Bluetooth and Wi Fi for speaker systems when necessary. 327 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.240 It has its own speakers that can attach to it. 328 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:31.480 Speaker accessories like a soundbar accessory. It comes in two sizes, 329 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.960 A twenty seven and a fifty five. Now you're like, well, 330 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:38.640 twenty seven is very very small by today's stand that's 331 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.400 like large monitor size, but very very small. TV fifty 332 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:47.000 five is respectable. So what's the point about this. This 333 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.319 is a television that is literally designed to just be 334 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:54.759 laying around the house, not attached to any particular wall, 335 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:58.759 not permanently mounted anywhere. This is a television screen that 336 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:02.599 is designed for you just grab and set up wherever 337 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:08.000 you are because it's wireless and it can do that. Okay, 338 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:12.920 so now what features does it have that allows it 339 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.799 to do it other than its internal battery system, other 340 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:21.000 than active vacuum suction cups four suction cups on the 341 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:25.039 back of this television that aren't that aren't just like, oh, 342 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.160 you know, lick them and stick them to the wall 343 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.640 and hope that your very expensive television doesn't fall. 344 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:30.160 No, no, no, no. 345 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.039 This is kind of the active suction tech. You know, 346 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.319 you've seen glass professionals use those little suction cup things 347 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:39.440 where they actually have to press the buttons in in 348 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.680 order to keep and maintain the vacuum. Well, this is 349 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.519 a television that has those kind of suction cups, and 350 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:50.079 it actively continues to put a vacuum under those cups. 351 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:56.240 It sticks to flat surfaces incredibly securely and really really 352 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.720 well and safely. Okay, So that means, oh, you want 353 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.960 to bring this TV into the den for now? Yeah, 354 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.599 just bring it on in and just pop it on 355 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:09.240 the wall, watch TV in here. Oh I'm to do 356 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.359 it in the bedroom, a bedroom that doesn't have a TV. 357 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.400 Bring it in, pop it on the wall, pop it 358 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.359 on a window pane, on a sliding glass door, or 359 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:23.160 and here's what got my attention, just the applications for Hey, 360 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.680 you want to watch TV out side under the patio cover, 361 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:29.480 we can just bring this TV out and put it 362 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:34.640 there instead of all of the hubbub about bringing wiring 363 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:39.000 and cabling outside, setting up a television screen that's going 364 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:43.519 to be exposed to moisture and weather, you know, twenty 365 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.759 four to seven building cases around it to protect it, 366 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.400 all of those kinds of things. And I'm not saying 367 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:53.480 that those aren't appropriate. Things that can still happen in 368 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.160 certain situations where you know, that's just how we normally 369 00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:59.880 do things. But this is a TV that challenges that 370 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.440 that kind of thinking, because it's so dang easy just 371 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.359 to go to the hall closet, pull the screen out 372 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:09.440 and bring it outside with you when you're planning on 373 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.880 watching a show or something or you know, the game 374 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:16.039 outside there it is. Carry it outside for when you 375 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:19.279 need it, stick it to whatever for however long you 376 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.319 need it, and bring it back inside. That's that's a 377 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.680 useful device. This thing also has a built in stand. 378 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:29.319 It comes out the bottom, so if you don't if 379 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:31.279 you're not going to attach it to something, you activate 380 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.160 the stand and these two little legs come out from 381 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.480 each side down below and then spread out and boom. 382 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.039 The TV is standing on its own built in and 383 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:44.160 if you want a bigger experience, I already said it 384 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:46.680 has soundbar assessories that can be attached. But you can 385 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:51.839 join this TV with three other screens together and then 386 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:55.039 they all unite for a large composite screen. 387 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.720 That's kind of cool. So anyway, here's one of those things. Now, 388 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:01.480 am I saying that this is the one? 389 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:01.759 No? 390 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.240 But what I keep my eye out for at shows 391 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.920 like this are where we've turned a corner and somebody 392 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:10.839 is thinking about something that is common in a very 393 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:11.640 very different way. 394 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:13.400 And so the idea that. 395 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:18.079 Television technology, battery technology has got to the point where 396 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.920 we could have Wi Fi and Bluetooth based screens that 397 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.839 are lightweight, that don't have to be a permanent mount 398 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:27.799 in the house, that you can just kind of take 399 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.160 it wherever you want to go, use it wherever you 400 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.880 want to use it, and then store it away safely 401 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:36.240