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President of Accuracy in Media or AIM, Adam Gillett. Am
I pronouncing your last name correctly, Adam? First off, Gillett, Oh.
Speaker 2: But no one does. That's okay, it's Gillette gill Oh.
Speaker 1: So see that. I almost went with the with the
L sound, and then I was like, no, no, no,
it's probably all right. I'm sorry. So Gillett is the
correct pronunciation. So welcome. Tell us first, what is Accuracy
in Media? What is AIM?
Speaker 2: Sure. We're a nonpartisan organization and we use hit camera,
investigative journalism and cultural activism to hold bad public policy
actors accountable. I like to say we put frowns on
the faces of bad people.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's true. So I and AIM has
been around for a while, and in fact, we talked
a little bit about your organization and when you guys
were rolling the the trucks, Uh, identifying the anti Semites
all around. Uh was it Harvard? I think you had.
You got the big box trucks with the video screens
and stuff. That was your operation, right.
Speaker 2: We have visited at Harvard. I was there yesterday for commencement.
They weren't happy to see me. We have been to
dozens of universities going after violent anti Semites and anti Americans,
people who assault Riley Gaines, people who shout down Trump
appointed judges at Stanford, and of course the anti Semites.
If you engage in anti American anti semitism on a
college campus, or if you assault a speaker you don't like,
we buy your domain name like Amauri Butler dot com
up a profile page explaining what you've done, put you
on the side of our mobile billboard that we send
to your campus and occasionally your parents' house, and then
we work with search engine optimization experts so that if
a future employer or date googles you, our domain profile
page comes up first. A lot of people want to
kill me unfortunately because of that. But as they say,
we make bad people unhappy.
Speaker 1: So all right, So, and I know this, we're going
to talk about the UNC Charlotte story because you guys
had a video went viral and now the administrator is
out at UNC Charlotte. But so it sounds like what
you are, what you've explained in that strategy, is that doxing?
And if so, is that defensible.
Speaker 2: Question. We've been docks repeatedly. Me and my family have
been docked repeatedly. People share my social Security member and
birth date so much on social media that people sign
up for credit cards, they do the scenes of my family.
We would never ever dox anyone. What we've done. For example,
is at Harvard, the leaders of I think it was
twenty two student organizations publicly find a proclamation blaming Israel
and America for the October seventh terror attack. So they
find a public proclamation and in the student newspaper, in
their social media pages, they said, so and so is
the president of this organization. Well, if you publicly signed
a proclamation, and if you're posting on your Instagram page
that you're the president of the organization, I am more
than happy to share that information with as farwell as
an audience as I can find, because if you're so
proud of what you've done, you should thank me for
amplifying your message. And if you're ashamed of what you've done,
you should apologize, and we take down your web page.
And I'll tell you what. We've taken down many, many,
many web pages because thankfully, at least at Harvard, a
lot of people learned a lesson.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, I was going to ask anybody, did anybody
take you up on the offer? That's interesting? All right?
So you released this video, this undercover video of the
assistant director of Leadership End Community at UNC Charlotte named
Janique Sanders, and it sounds like a couple of undercover
journalists go in there and they're asking, like, hey, we
know DEI policy was supposed to be ripped out route
and branch based on state law, based on the UNC
Board of Governor's direction. Is that the case though? Is
that really the case? And she explains, we're still doing it.
Don't worry, it's just a rebrand effort, right, So the
video goes gets released, I want to say Wednesday, and
so I'm curious just from a timing standpoint, because you
showed up on the campus. When did you show up
in our fair city to confront Miss Sanders.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I was there ago. You know,
we have hidden camera investigations from about a half a
dozen universities in the state of North Carolina, and I
have the opportunity to go back and confront three of
them across the state. This was the first of a
bunch of videos we'll be releasing from your state, and unfortunately,
it's consistent with what we see across the country. These
politicians or trustees pass a ban on DEI or trans
boys and girls sports or critical race theory, they pat
themselves in the back for a job well done. They
virtu your signal to their base, to the bars, and
then the laws are entirely ignored. The rules from the
regents and the trustees. State laws mean nothing to these radicals.
They're almost not worth the paper they're printed on.
Speaker 1: And that gets to the issue here is that these
activists don't cease being activists simply because they're being told, hey,
don't overtly do this stuff. They're still going to do it.
Just as Miss Sanders said, covertly right. So how do
you go about addressing the Marxist pedagogy that is embedded
in the activism teacher model.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest with you. I've spent the last
twenty years volunteering for organizations where I trained college kids
on campuses across the country. I've met with college students
in forty eight states, which is most of them, several
Canadian provinces, Mexico City, and I see this radical stuff everywhere.
You know, people used to think, well, the colleges are
left wing. Oh it's beyond that and really corrupt, irredeemable
institutions that we're funding every day with our tax dollars.
And everyone wants to like they're on or they want
to root for their football team and basketball team, and
I get that, but the unfortunate thing is these are
no longer institutions of higher learning or of education. They
might do some great work in you know, the engineering schools,
or in the heart and in the sciences, but by
and large, these are simply political activist organizations funneling money
from the tax players to advance their father left ideology.
You know, think about what that job title is. The
assistant director of leadership and whatever. The amount of ridiculous
administrative bloat they have in these universities speaks to why
the tuition is so incredibly expensive. They don't really add faculty,
they don't really add anything that makes the educationation value
better for students. They just spend more money on far
left radical administrators because these are essentially left going activist organization.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to that point, UNC Charlotte closed three offices as
a result of the policy directives. They had three different offices,
one Office of Diversity and Inclusion, another Office of Identity,
Equity and Engagement, and then the Office of Academic Diversity
and Inclusion. Three different agencies or offices inside the UNC system,
all for the same thing. In this like you call
it this bloat, and so what I hear from your
answer there is that training up college students to basically
take out through undercover video operations. I'm assuming to identify
these activists that are breaking the rules. And it's like
you got to go one by one through every single institution.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure when they got rid of
those three entities within the university system, I doubt any
jobs were lost. You know, the only thing that changed
is they had to order new business cards. These are
radicals who don't care about the law. As they tell us,
do we change the job title, We do the exact
same work. And the real danger is that the politicians
won't necessarily act because they oftentimes say there's no problem,
because if they were to acknowledge there was a problem,
they would have to do something about it, and that
isn't easy. So it's incredibly incumbent on the elected official
or upon the voters in North Carolina to say to
your politicians, I'm not interested in you merely virtue signaling
in passing laws against the rain in the hopes that
the rain will stop. We actually need to go to
the rot of these universities. We need to defund them
and force them to cut down the administrative bloat. We
need to assign people who dversities who were actually focused
on education, free speech ideas instead of just radical ideologues
who run these institutions.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend who's kids are in college.
They don't even they don't even provide on campus housing
after freshman year in one of the schools that her
kid was going to because there's there's not there. They've
over enrolled. They have so many kids that are coming
in they don't even put them in housing anymore. It
seems it seems like a racket. I don't know, and
so sorry. Finally, you said, there are half a dozen
other schools that you have already done operations in, and
you're going to be releasing stuff on UNC Charlotte was
sort of the first. Are you at liberty to tell
us who else may have been scooped up in this operation?
Or are you holding those cards close to the vest.
Speaker 2: Well, we've got some fun coming from Wilmington, from Western Carolina,
from UNC Asheville, others as well, notable universities in the state.
And I'll tell you, if we don't have content from
a university, it doesn't mean that there's no problem going
on there. It means we probably couldn't get past the
gatekeeper because these people were paid to actually talk to
prospective students. Ployees aren't interested over they're working remotely more
often than not. You know, I find that is my
greatest child when I revisit the universities and try to
kill these people.
Speaker 3: They're never in the office.
Speaker 2: For the ridiculous six figure salaried employees who are up
to this administrative bloat. They're not even there, they're at home,
they're working remote at the coffee shop with a barista
talks about Carl Marx. It's utterly insane. And visiting these
universities and just trying to meet with them after the
fact and finding impossible to find.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The only person I was able to find, of course,
at UNC Charlotte was the provost who, when confronted with reality,
had no words to say to me and told me
to get out of the building immediately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the look on her face when she realized what
was going on was priceless. It was absolutely priceless. It's
a great work that you're doing, by the way, UNC Asheville.
Really that's like fishing a barrel up there, man. That's
that's like the San Francisco of North Carolina. So yeah,
it would surprise me if you couldn't find somebody up
there doing this stuff. But hey, keep up the good work.
The website, by the way is aim dot org Accuracy
and Media aim dot org. And Adam Gillett, thanks so
much for your time, sir, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely take care. We'll be watching for the rest of
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case you hadn't heard, we covered it on the newscast yesterday.
The video went viral at attracted attention up at even
national levels. Unc Charlotte was the scene of the uh crime,
that's not a crime, but like that's where it happened. So,
as I mentioned yesterday, we had made it three days
without any kind of new chapter and a sh Charlotte
corruption type scandal story, and then we had to reset
the clock. What good news is we are now back
at well Okay. So then yesterday we heard that they're
going to close down all the businesses at the transit center.
So there's that, okay, o't is that the same thing? Okay,
all right, we're going to start again starting now, so
we're zero days. Okay. Maybe it's just embarrassing, an embarrassing
slash corruption slash scandal story. You know, so UNC Charlotte
says that it has fired this administrator or sorry that
they no longer are employed there. Don't know if they
got fired, don't know what's up. Ap Dylan reporting over
at the North State Journal that a series of posts
on X and I do have the video and the audio,
and I've seen it. You can find it as well.
I'll you know, put it in my prep sheet. But
it's the audio is not great because it's undercover video,
so you really need to see the transcript of it.
So I just opted not to even you know, play
the audio and then have to restate everything that she
says because a lot of it is like she's whispering
and they're in sort of a room with a lot
of people. There's some music in the background. It's undercover video,
and so she's you know, she's speaking in these hushed tones.
So this way it's not overt and that is on purpose.
It's intentional because she's bragging about how they are dodging
the UNC system ban on DEI instruction and programs. The
video went viral yesterday, picked up like three and a
half million views in less than twenty four hours. And
it got attention from Yeah here it is. Corey DeAngelis
tweeted it out he's affiliated with a I AM as well.
He's a pro voucher guy, and the thread caught the
attention of HARMEI Dillon, the Assistant Attorney General for the
US Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division. Gillett responded to
her by writing on Twitter that AIM has quote more
videos from half a dozen universities in North Carolina, as
well as many more from across the country. Senate leader
Phil Berger also took note of the news by writing, DEI,
no matter what name or acronym you use, doesn't belong
in education. The North Carolina Senate has already taken concrete
steps to address this by passing Senate Bill five point
fifty eight, a bill that I filed to eliminate DEI
from UNC System schools and community colleges. UNC Board of
Governor's member Woody White responded to the tweet, saying, this
is disappointing to see. I worked closely with other members
of our board and the System Office to repeal and
replace the DEI policies system wide. Back in May of
twenty twenty four. The UNC System Board of Governors directed
each institution to implement the new policy, eliminate spending on DEI,
and report compliance by September First. We expected all institutions
to fully comply, but suspected some would stealthily attempt to
rearrange job descriptions and shift personnel, but not undertake what
was intended, which was a full uprooting of discriminatory practices
and divisive doctrines and a return to institutional neutrality. White
added quote, I will be asking our system office to
make a formal inquiry about the things said in this
video and expect that UNC Charlotte will be forthcoming in
a response. So then UNC Charlotte put out a statement.
Let's see here I have it. Yeah, so this statement
came out yesterday. UNC Charlotte is aware of a video
circulating on social media that shows an employee making statements
that suggest the university is failing to uphold DEI related
policies and laws. The employee's statements were inaccurate. Yeah, I'm
not buying that. I'm not I'm not buying that. She
was talking about what she is doing and what her
colleagues are doing. So, while yes, you could have changed
your policies or whatever. If you still have these activists
doing the work, then nothing has really changed. They're still
drawing salaries, they're still doing the work. They just went underground.
They're they've they've burrowed in, and the only way to
rip the crap out is to fire these people. That's
the only way. And to that point, as I said
to Adam Gillett, like that's that's what apparently their mission
is get kids in these schools to do the more
of these types of videos, get them on tape, and
then make the school answer for it. And if what
UNC Charlotte has done is any indication, it's to cut
the employee loose. Like the incentive for the UNC Charlotte
administration is to not upset the activists on campus, whether
they're paying tuition or drawing a salary. Right, But they
also cannot cross the board of Governors, right, they can't
cross the state lawmakers. So they need people, even if
they don't want people to but they need people to
do these types of ops because it's the only way
they're going to be able to fire people. That's I mean,
that's what it seems like to me, because most of
the time they probably don't want to fire the person,
so you have to force their hand. The employee statements
were inaccurate and do not reflect the university's actions. UNC
Charlotte continues to uphold both the letter and spirit of
UNC system policy and all federal and state laws. I mean,
of course you're going to say that. I mean, it's
not like your Columbia University and you're going to come
out and say like we discriminate or Yale, like we're
racists institutionally, you know, like, okay, well then you don't
get any more federal dollars. The individual featured in the
video had no policy making authority, no role in compliance matters,
and was not authorized to speak on these issues. Okay,
let me explain what this means, because this is some
word smith ory right here. The individual featured had no
policy making authority. She never claimed to, and nobody assumed that.
Nobody looked at her and thought, oh, this is a
person who writes policy. Nothing she said would indicate that.
So of course that so you're like, oh, she had
no policy making authority. We don't believe she did. That's
the point. The policy says something, and she's going around
the policy, no role in compliance matters again irrelevant. Nobody
assumed that she was in charge of compliance or anything.
She's talking about, undermining these very things, the compliance and
the policy. And then finally she was not authorized to
speak on these issues. Uh yeah, because if she were authorized,
she wouldn't have said what she said. If she knew
she was being recorded, she would not have said what
she said, which is the whole freaking point here. People.
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guess I should say, when are you doing the on
camera interview with Jesse Waters? I don't know if you
know anybody over there. I'm happy to chat with him.
I've not been contacted, but that's like every other day.
So regarding this is from Tim regarding DEI on college CAMPI,
I think the solution is to pull funding for colleges
and universities for at least a year, shut them down,
send everybody home permanently, and a year later have those
departments rejustify their existence and never rehire those involved in
DEI practices. And if it hurts some people, so be it.
I honestly think this could all. This could be addressed
also by making the student loans expungible in bankruptcy and
by making the schools offer the loans. I think that's
the way that you get at some of this stuff,
because if a school is going to hand out diplomas
based on instructional standards that will not lead to the
person getting a decent job, right, they're not going to
then offer those loans. I really believe that a large
part of the problem here is that you've got the
short circuiting of the market signalization, same thing as in healthcare.
Because there's a third party paying, then you end up
with people asking for services and then the provider conjuring
those services up in order to get those customers because
the provider is not on the hook for the cost,
and the customer is offloading the cost to a third party,
and they think that that they have to have this service,
and then oh, I get to choose this you know,
ridiculous major that will not lead to any kind of
marketable skills. Trust me, I graduated with a degree in
mass com That's it's funny because it's true, Mike, Welcome
to the show.
Speaker 4: Hello Mike, and you have put that degree to good
work for benefits for a long long time. Wow, that's
your apologies needed. Where did you go to school winter.
I know you told me that, but I've forgotten. Where's that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Winthrop University.
Speaker 4: Gotcha, just down the road, got it. I am calling
because I need seeking of education. I need to be
educated by one of the leading conservative thought people around,
and that's you about the evils of the I because
this progressive really has never gotten it.
Speaker 1: You have never gotten what the I.
Speaker 4: Don't understand why it is so long that it needs
to be exercise or exercise like a demon from the military,
from various colleges, from businesses, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can tell you. Yeah, no, I can tell you.
I can tell you. Well, let me okay, I mean,
if you want to know why conservatives and I would,
I would submit liberals should also not progressives because progressives
I put into a different category from liberals. So if
you are a self identified progressive, then you're in a
different category than liberals. So the key here is the
oppressor oppressed lens through which Marxism views all things that's
on the progressive, far left, leftist side of the spectrum.
So that's why, Yeah, go ahead interrupt, Yes, sure, Why.
Speaker 4: How prevalence today you use the term Marxist all the time. Yes, so,
And I don't know, Frank, anybody that's calling themselves Marxist, No,
why would they? Well I know, nor do I know folks.
You know any real politician that you could look at
and say, oh, well he's definitely a Marxist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, people don't. People don't, Mike. People don't like
to use the term Marxist for themselves because Marxism has
such negative connotations and associations, rightfully so rightfully so. See,
They's like a key difference here is like, if you
call me a capitalist, I'm going to say, yes, absolutely,
I'm a free market capitalist, absolutely, Whereas when you call
a Marxist a Marxist, they don't like being called that
because they are ashamed of the one hundred million body
bags attached to the philosophy. Yeah, so that's why you
don't hear that term. But that's so to your original
I'm sure a good faith question on DEI is that
it's not necessarily like when you use the terms like,
for example, women's healthcare instead of abortion, right, it's a
manipulation of the language. When you say diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Who could be against such a thing. Well, if you
are implementing a system under that heading that forces people
to view everybody through the oppressor and depressed lens all
the time, you are creating people that are then trapped
in what's called a victimhood mentality, where they see themselves
as oppressed by some other and the other those kids
that are lumped into the category of the other, they
then carry guilt and they feel like they're being attacked
as well. And this is why Harvard University its own
research shows that when you implement these types of trainings
in the workplace or in a school setting, that it
actually doesn't reduce any of the tensions over these things.
It actually exacerbates the problem because you're telling some You're
telling one group of people that they are the oppressed,
and they are right in all their feelings of oppression.
They see slights and victimization where there are none. They
ascribe motive to their oppressors. And then you have the
other side where they're labeled the oppressor when they are not.
And then they get very upset and now they are
viewing the other groups as hostile to them where before
they were not.
Speaker 4: In this a situation in which because I know you
have pulled out various instances here and there, and hear
a story from someplace, and somebody said something, and this
person got upset, et cetera. But in this a situation
pee in which she can pull out various anecdotes and
then attempt to extrapolate from them. Therefore, the entire system
is just like this, and we must fight.
Speaker 1: I would recommend, Mike, I would recommend that you explore
the roots of the Dei movement and such, and you
will see the connections because they talk about them. The
people who create the pedagogy, the people who create this
entire effort, they are very clear, and they are out
in front. You go back twenty thirty forty years. There
are talking about this stuff, and it is Marxist in
its roots. They talk about it, they admit it, they
acknowledge it. So you know it's not a matter of
me pulling examples and anecdotes and then painting with the
broad brush. This is the intent. I take them at
their word. So I'm glad I could answer that question
for you. I appreciate the call. Good to hear from you.
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a tweet. It's a pe tweet from Gary who says
Mike's call and question boils down to one thing. Do
you believe in equality of opportunity or in equity, They
are not the same thing. Equity is not equality. Equity
is the opposite. Equity requires you to give victims quote
unquote victims more and disadvantage others. Right, So this has
always been the case. I've been talking about critical race theory,
Graham she and Marxism. I've been in the long march
through the institutions. Right, it's all of the same ball
of poop which comes from Marx, which actually comes from Hegel.
So right, the philosophy, it morphs and it changes, and
you're seeing a lot of this also now on what
people are calling the woke right, same stuff, same stuff,
It changes based on whatever the issue happens to be
at the moment. I've been saying this also. James Lindsey
said it first. I keep quoting him. The issue is
never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. And
just because progressives or liberals or even people who think
of themselves as on the right, just because they don't
understand the roots of their philosophy that they are espousing,
doesn't mean those roots are not there. But they get
mad when I point out the roots of their philosophy.
But those are the roots. That's where this stuff comes from.
Whether it was critical race theory right, which had its moment, right,
And that's the same thing like, well, who could object
to sort of the concepts that there was slavery and
that was wrong, right, And that's the game. That's the
way that they induce the conversations and then direct it
to the outcomes they prefer, which are Marxists. That's the point.
And so you do the privilege walks and oh, these
are just anecdotes. As Mike said, these are just anecdotes,
and I'm extrapolating out yea, if it was one anecdote,
I would agree if it was five over the course
of you know, a decade, like okay, this is not
why spread. But it's all over the place, man, it's
all over the place. What do you think gender queer
theory is queer theory? What do you think that is?
It's of the same route it's these are. The issue
is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.
All of this stuff is simply designed to deconstruct, to
tear down the various pillars upon which Western civilization is built,
in order to usher in the utopia the better world,
the perfect world, and under Hegelian philosophy, you keep tearing
down in order to perfect. And in Hegel's view, the
perfection was the state, and you keep perfecting, and of
course the fatal conceit there is that as humans you
actually know what the perfect is. That's the fatal conceit
and therefore the fatal flaw and the entire philosophy. One
might even argue, satanically inspired to make people believe that
they can know what the perfect is and they can
implement it here on earth. And if you have to
murder one hundred million people to get there, well, so
be it. Sometimes, you know, you got to crack some
eggs in order to make an omelet, and then eventually
you end up with this perfected utopian society because you
kept destroying everything along the way that wasn't the perfect.
And of course, like you see, the problem here is
not only knowing what is or is not the perfect,
but then over the course of time, after you've destroyed
so much, you end up in a position where the
things you have kept may not actually be perfect any longer,
or may not be perfect with the other pieces that
you thought were perfect, and you kept and maybe now
they're in conflict. It's just chaos. That's the end result.
It's always the same result. So that's why I call
it Marxist. Why they called the people who advanced these ideas,
they consider themselves to be Marxists. They say that have
said it. Read their own writings, Steve, Welcome to the program. Hello, Steve.
Speaker 5: Hey, they I want to make a time. I had
to come up with a play and a way to
work around when people that like Shawn calls in and
Mike calls in, my blood pressure starts the bull. And
I've come up with a solution for myself, and I
want to share it with your listeners because it works
pretty well. Okay, what I've started, what I've started doing
is is when they call it in, as soon as
I hear their voice, I turn my radio all for
a minute and a half, and then when I turn
it back on, if I hear their voice say again,
I'd do it another minute and a half. And then
when I turn it back on, usually they're gone by
the end, and man, life goes on sweet as before.
So that works great, and I want to share that
with you.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't help me Steve, give us the same.
I can't do that because I need to hear what
they're saying so then I can dismantle it.
Speaker 5: But you hear the same things over and over again
from these guys. Are they going to stop?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Well never, That's why it's the long march through the institutions.
It never stopped.
Speaker 5: I had to do something for preservation, I understand. But
they say the same things over and they got to
hear an agenda.
Speaker 2: They're coming in. They're trying to.
Speaker 5: Trap you, get you sure to say something. Sure, it's ridiculous,
it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Well see, here's so this is the problem, Steve, is
that I was a political science minor. And the rule
is an old axiom, really is that you never argue
with the political science student because at some point you
realize they enjoy it. All right, man, I appreciate the call. Yeah,
that's the uh, that's the sort of dirty little secret there.
I enjoy it. I like I because I have confidence
in my positions and I feel like I have done
enough of the research or the work to understand their arguments.
And that's why I when they when I hear their arguments,
I'm not surprised by the men. I usually have answers
for them. Melinda, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hi, I'd just have a question.
Speaker 6: Sure him, a white Christian heterosexual male ever be considered
a DEI higher?
Speaker 1: Well, maybe in like a if there were to be
some sort of a quota higher for like a I
don't know, like an NBA team or something. Maybe wow.
And then my second, why is that a wow? Do
you don't believe that like if if, if if a
white guy was not if a white guy was not
good enough to make the team, but they put him
on the team anyway because he was white? Right, wouldn't
that fit the category that you're describing.
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, right, because, like.
Speaker 1: We all believe that like professional sports, that's a merit
based system, only the best get to be on the team. Right, So,
like that's what makes sports. I feel like that's what
makes sports so great is that it doesn't matter what
people's race or religion is, or their sexuality, None of
that stuff matters. The only thing that matters is do
they perform the best in their field? And that's who
you put on the court or on the field, right.
Speaker 3: All Right? And my second, I just just had a
little thought here considering what DEI kind of like stands
for and what we're using it as. Not that he is,
but one could say, who believes in that that Vince
Cochley might be a DEI higher if they didn't know
any better and didn't know him because he's the only
black on air personality on your radio station somewhe.
Speaker 1: So this is a perfect Milinda. This is a perfect
example of viewing everything through that lens. It has so
corrupted your brain that you think that somehow or another,
Vince doesn't the spot when he absolutely does. But thanks
for the totally good faith questions. All right, that'll do
it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.
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