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your support. I want to welcome to the program the

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President of Accuracy in Media or AIM, Adam Gillett. Am

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I pronouncing your last name correctly, Adam? First off, Gillett, Oh.

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Speaker 2: But no one does. That's okay, it's Gillette gill Oh.

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Speaker 1: So see that. I almost went with the with the

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L sound, and then I was like, no, no, no,

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it's probably all right. I'm sorry. So Gillett is the

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correct pronunciation. So welcome. Tell us first, what is Accuracy

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in Media? What is AIM?

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Speaker 2: Sure. We're a nonpartisan organization and we use hit camera,

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investigative journalism and cultural activism to hold bad public policy

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actors accountable. I like to say we put frowns on

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the faces of bad people.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because it's true. So I and AIM has

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been around for a while, and in fact, we talked

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a little bit about your organization and when you guys

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were rolling the the trucks, Uh, identifying the anti Semites

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all around. Uh was it Harvard? I think you had.

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You got the big box trucks with the video screens

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and stuff. That was your operation, right.

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Speaker 2: We have visited at Harvard. I was there yesterday for commencement.

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They weren't happy to see me. We have been to

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dozens of universities going after violent anti Semites and anti Americans,

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people who assault Riley Gaines, people who shout down Trump

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appointed judges at Stanford, and of course the anti Semites.

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If you engage in anti American anti semitism on a

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college campus, or if you assault a speaker you don't like,

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we buy your domain name like Amauri Butler dot com

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up a profile page explaining what you've done, put you

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on the side of our mobile billboard that we send

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to your campus and occasionally your parents' house, and then

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we work with search engine optimization experts so that if

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a future employer or date googles you, our domain profile

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page comes up first. A lot of people want to

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kill me unfortunately because of that. But as they say,

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we make bad people unhappy.

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Speaker 1: So all right, So, and I know this, we're going

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to talk about the UNC Charlotte story because you guys

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had a video went viral and now the administrator is

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out at UNC Charlotte. But so it sounds like what

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you are, what you've explained in that strategy, is that doxing?

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And if so, is that defensible.

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Speaker 2: Question. We've been docks repeatedly. Me and my family have

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been docked repeatedly. People share my social Security member and

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birth date so much on social media that people sign

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up for credit cards, they do the scenes of my family.

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We would never ever dox anyone. What we've done. For example,

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is at Harvard, the leaders of I think it was

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twenty two student organizations publicly find a proclamation blaming Israel

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and America for the October seventh terror attack. So they

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find a public proclamation and in the student newspaper, in

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their social media pages, they said, so and so is

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the president of this organization. Well, if you publicly signed

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a proclamation, and if you're posting on your Instagram page

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that you're the president of the organization, I am more

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than happy to share that information with as farwell as

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an audience as I can find, because if you're so

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proud of what you've done, you should thank me for

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amplifying your message. And if you're ashamed of what you've done,

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you should apologize, and we take down your web page.

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And I'll tell you what. We've taken down many, many,

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many web pages because thankfully, at least at Harvard, a

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lot of people learned a lesson.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, I was going to ask anybody, did anybody

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take you up on the offer? That's interesting? All right?

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So you released this video, this undercover video of the

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assistant director of Leadership End Community at UNC Charlotte named

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Janique Sanders, and it sounds like a couple of undercover

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journalists go in there and they're asking, like, hey, we

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know DEI policy was supposed to be ripped out route

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and branch based on state law, based on the UNC

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Board of Governor's direction. Is that the case though? Is

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that really the case? And she explains, we're still doing it.

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Don't worry, it's just a rebrand effort, right, So the

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video goes gets released, I want to say Wednesday, and

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so I'm curious just from a timing standpoint, because you

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showed up on the campus. When did you show up

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in our fair city to confront Miss Sanders.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. I was there ago. You know,

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we have hidden camera investigations from about a half a

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dozen universities in the state of North Carolina, and I

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have the opportunity to go back and confront three of

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them across the state. This was the first of a

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bunch of videos we'll be releasing from your state, and unfortunately,

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it's consistent with what we see across the country. These

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politicians or trustees pass a ban on DEI or trans

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boys and girls sports or critical race theory, they pat

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themselves in the back for a job well done. They

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virtu your signal to their base, to the bars, and

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then the laws are entirely ignored. The rules from the

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regents and the trustees. State laws mean nothing to these radicals.

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They're almost not worth the paper they're printed on.

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Speaker 1: And that gets to the issue here is that these

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activists don't cease being activists simply because they're being told, hey,

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don't overtly do this stuff. They're still going to do it.

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Just as Miss Sanders said, covertly right. So how do

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you go about addressing the Marxist pedagogy that is embedded

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in the activism teacher model.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest with you. I've spent the last

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twenty years volunteering for organizations where I trained college kids

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on campuses across the country. I've met with college students

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in forty eight states, which is most of them, several

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Canadian provinces, Mexico City, and I see this radical stuff everywhere.

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You know, people used to think, well, the colleges are

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left wing. Oh it's beyond that and really corrupt, irredeemable

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institutions that we're funding every day with our tax dollars.

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And everyone wants to like they're on or they want

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to root for their football team and basketball team, and

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I get that, but the unfortunate thing is these are

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no longer institutions of higher learning or of education. They

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might do some great work in you know, the engineering schools,

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or in the heart and in the sciences, but by

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and large, these are simply political activist organizations funneling money

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from the tax players to advance their father left ideology.

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You know, think about what that job title is. The

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assistant director of leadership and whatever. The amount of ridiculous

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administrative bloat they have in these universities speaks to why

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the tuition is so incredibly expensive. They don't really add faculty,

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they don't really add anything that makes the educationation value

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better for students. They just spend more money on far

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left radical administrators because these are essentially left going activist organization.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to that point, UNC Charlotte closed three offices as

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a result of the policy directives. They had three different offices,

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one Office of Diversity and Inclusion, another Office of Identity,

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Equity and Engagement, and then the Office of Academic Diversity

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and Inclusion. Three different agencies or offices inside the UNC system,

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all for the same thing. In this like you call

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it this bloat, and so what I hear from your

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answer there is that training up college students to basically

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take out through undercover video operations. I'm assuming to identify

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these activists that are breaking the rules. And it's like

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you got to go one by one through every single institution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure when they got rid of

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those three entities within the university system, I doubt any

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jobs were lost. You know, the only thing that changed

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is they had to order new business cards. These are

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radicals who don't care about the law. As they tell us,

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do we change the job title, We do the exact

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same work. And the real danger is that the politicians

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won't necessarily act because they oftentimes say there's no problem,

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because if they were to acknowledge there was a problem,

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they would have to do something about it, and that

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isn't easy. So it's incredibly incumbent on the elected official

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or upon the voters in North Carolina to say to

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your politicians, I'm not interested in you merely virtue signaling

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in passing laws against the rain in the hopes that

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the rain will stop. We actually need to go to

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the rot of these universities. We need to defund them

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and force them to cut down the administrative bloat. We

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need to assign people who dversities who were actually focused

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on education, free speech ideas instead of just radical ideologues

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who run these institutions.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend who's kids are in college.

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They don't even they don't even provide on campus housing

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after freshman year in one of the schools that her

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kid was going to because there's there's not there. They've

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over enrolled. They have so many kids that are coming

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in they don't even put them in housing anymore. It

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seems it seems like a racket. I don't know, and

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so sorry. Finally, you said, there are half a dozen

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other schools that you have already done operations in, and

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you're going to be releasing stuff on UNC Charlotte was

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sort of the first. Are you at liberty to tell

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us who else may have been scooped up in this operation?

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Or are you holding those cards close to the vest.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got some fun coming from Wilmington, from Western Carolina,

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from UNC Asheville, others as well, notable universities in the state.

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And I'll tell you, if we don't have content from

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a university, it doesn't mean that there's no problem going

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on there. It means we probably couldn't get past the

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gatekeeper because these people were paid to actually talk to

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prospective students. Ployees aren't interested over they're working remotely more

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often than not. You know, I find that is my

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greatest child when I revisit the universities and try to

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kill these people.

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Speaker 3: They're never in the office.

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Speaker 2: For the ridiculous six figure salaried employees who are up

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to this administrative bloat. They're not even there, they're at home,

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they're working remote at the coffee shop with a barista

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talks about Carl Marx. It's utterly insane. And visiting these

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universities and just trying to meet with them after the

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fact and finding impossible to find.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The only person I was able to find, of course,

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at UNC Charlotte was the provost who, when confronted with reality,

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had no words to say to me and told me

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to get out of the building immediately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the look on her face when she realized what

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was going on was priceless. It was absolutely priceless. It's

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a great work that you're doing, by the way, UNC Asheville.

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Really that's like fishing a barrel up there, man. That's

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that's like the San Francisco of North Carolina. So yeah,

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it would surprise me if you couldn't find somebody up

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there doing this stuff. But hey, keep up the good work.

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The website, by the way is aim dot org Accuracy

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and Media aim dot org. And Adam Gillett, thanks so

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much for your time, sir, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely take care. We'll be watching for the rest of

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the videos to drop. I want to insert evil laugh here. Okay,

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case you hadn't heard, we covered it on the newscast yesterday.

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The video went viral at attracted attention up at even

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that's not a crime, but like that's where it happened. So,

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as I mentioned yesterday, we had made it three days

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without any kind of new chapter and a sh Charlotte

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corruption type scandal story, and then we had to reset

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the clock. What good news is we are now back

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at well Okay. So then yesterday we heard that they're

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going to close down all the businesses at the transit center.

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all right, we're going to start again starting now, so

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we're zero days. Okay. Maybe it's just embarrassing, an embarrassing

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slash corruption slash scandal story. You know, so UNC Charlotte

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says that it has fired this administrator or sorry that

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they no longer are employed there. Don't know if they

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got fired, don't know what's up. Ap Dylan reporting over

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at the North State Journal that a series of posts

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on X and I do have the video and the audio,

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and I've seen it. You can find it as well.

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I'll you know, put it in my prep sheet. But

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it's the audio is not great because it's undercover video,

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so you really need to see the transcript of it.

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So I just opted not to even you know, play

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the audio and then have to restate everything that she

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says because a lot of it is like she's whispering

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and they're in sort of a room with a lot

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of people. There's some music in the background. It's undercover video,

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and so she's you know, she's speaking in these hushed tones.

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So this way it's not overt and that is on purpose.

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It's intentional because she's bragging about how they are dodging

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the UNC system ban on DEI instruction and programs. The

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video went viral yesterday, picked up like three and a

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half million views in less than twenty four hours. And

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it got attention from Yeah here it is. Corey DeAngelis

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tweeted it out he's affiliated with a I AM as well.

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He's a pro voucher guy, and the thread caught the

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attention of HARMEI Dillon, the Assistant Attorney General for the

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US Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division. Gillett responded to

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her by writing on Twitter that AIM has quote more

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videos from half a dozen universities in North Carolina, as

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well as many more from across the country. Senate leader

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Phil Berger also took note of the news by writing, DEI,

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no matter what name or acronym you use, doesn't belong

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in education. The North Carolina Senate has already taken concrete

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steps to address this by passing Senate Bill five point

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fifty eight, a bill that I filed to eliminate DEI

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from UNC System schools and community colleges. UNC Board of

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Governor's member Woody White responded to the tweet, saying, this

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is disappointing to see. I worked closely with other members

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of our board and the System Office to repeal and

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replace the DEI policies system wide. Back in May of

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twenty twenty four. The UNC System Board of Governors directed

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each institution to implement the new policy, eliminate spending on DEI,

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and report compliance by September First. We expected all institutions

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to fully comply, but suspected some would stealthily attempt to

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rearrange job descriptions and shift personnel, but not undertake what

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was intended, which was a full uprooting of discriminatory practices

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and divisive doctrines and a return to institutional neutrality. White

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added quote, I will be asking our system office to

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make a formal inquiry about the things said in this

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video and expect that UNC Charlotte will be forthcoming in

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a response. So then UNC Charlotte put out a statement.

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came out yesterday. UNC Charlotte is aware of a video

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circulating on social media that shows an employee making statements

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that suggest the university is failing to uphold DEI related

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policies and laws. The employee's statements were inaccurate. Yeah, I'm

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not buying that. I'm not I'm not buying that. She

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was talking about what she is doing and what her

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colleagues are doing. So, while yes, you could have changed

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your policies or whatever. If you still have these activists

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doing the work, then nothing has really changed. They're still

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drawing salaries, they're still doing the work. They just went underground.

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They're they've they've burrowed in, and the only way to

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rip the crap out is to fire these people. That's

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the only way. And to that point, as I said

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to Adam Gillett, like that's that's what apparently their mission

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is get kids in these schools to do the more

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of these types of videos, get them on tape, and

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then make the school answer for it. And if what

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UNC Charlotte has done is any indication, it's to cut

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the employee loose. Like the incentive for the UNC Charlotte

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administration is to not upset the activists on campus, whether

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they're paying tuition or drawing a salary. Right, But they

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also cannot cross the board of Governors, right, they can't

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cross the state lawmakers. So they need people, even if

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they don't want people to but they need people to

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do these types of ops because it's the only way

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they're going to be able to fire people. That's I mean,

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that's what it seems like to me, because most of

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the time they probably don't want to fire the person,

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so you have to force their hand. The employee statements

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were inaccurate and do not reflect the university's actions. UNC

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Charlotte continues to uphold both the letter and spirit of

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UNC system policy and all federal and state laws. I mean,

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of course you're going to say that. I mean, it's

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not like your Columbia University and you're going to come

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out and say like we discriminate or Yale, like we're

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racists institutionally, you know, like, okay, well then you don't

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get any more federal dollars. The individual featured in the

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video had no policy making authority, no role in compliance matters,

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and was not authorized to speak on these issues. Okay,

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let me explain what this means, because this is some

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word smith ory right here. The individual featured had no

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policy making authority. She never claimed to, and nobody assumed that.

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Nobody looked at her and thought, oh, this is a

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person who writes policy. Nothing she said would indicate that.

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no policy making authority. We don't believe she did. That's

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the point. The policy says something, and she's going around

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the policy, no role in compliance matters again irrelevant. Nobody

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assumed that she was in charge of compliance or anything.

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She's talking about, undermining these very things, the compliance and

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the policy. And then finally she was not authorized to

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speak on these issues. Uh yeah, because if she were authorized,

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she wouldn't have said what she said. If she knew

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she was being recorded, she would not have said what

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she said, which is the whole freaking point here. People.

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guess I should say, when are you doing the on

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camera interview with Jesse Waters? I don't know if you

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know anybody over there. I'm happy to chat with him.

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I've not been contacted, but that's like every other day.

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So regarding this is from Tim regarding DEI on college CAMPI,

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I think the solution is to pull funding for colleges

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and universities for at least a year, shut them down,

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send everybody home permanently, and a year later have those

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departments rejustify their existence and never rehire those involved in

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DEI practices. And if it hurts some people, so be it.

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I honestly think this could all. This could be addressed

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also by making the student loans expungible in bankruptcy and

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by making the schools offer the loans. I think that's

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the way that you get at some of this stuff,

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because if a school is going to hand out diplomas

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based on instructional standards that will not lead to the

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person getting a decent job, right, they're not going to

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then offer those loans. I really believe that a large

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part of the problem here is that you've got the

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short circuiting of the market signalization, same thing as in healthcare.

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Because there's a third party paying, then you end up

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with people asking for services and then the provider conjuring

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those services up in order to get those customers because

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the provider is not on the hook for the cost,

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and the customer is offloading the cost to a third party,

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and they think that that they have to have this service,

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and then oh, I get to choose this you know,

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ridiculous major that will not lead to any kind of

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marketable skills. Trust me, I graduated with a degree in

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mass com That's it's funny because it's true, Mike, Welcome

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to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hello Mike, and you have put that degree to good

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work for benefits for a long long time. Wow, that's

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your apologies needed. Where did you go to school winter.

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I know you told me that, but I've forgotten. Where's that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Winthrop University.

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Speaker 4: Gotcha, just down the road, got it. I am calling

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because I need seeking of education. I need to be

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educated by one of the leading conservative thought people around,

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and that's you about the evils of the I because

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this progressive really has never gotten it.

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Speaker 1: You have never gotten what the I.

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Speaker 4: Don't understand why it is so long that it needs

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to be exercise or exercise like a demon from the military,

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from various colleges, from businesses, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can tell you. Yeah, no, I can tell you.

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I can tell you. Well, let me okay, I mean,

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if you want to know why conservatives and I would,

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I would submit liberals should also not progressives because progressives

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I put into a different category from liberals. So if

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you are a self identified progressive, then you're in a

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different category than liberals. So the key here is the

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oppressor oppressed lens through which Marxism views all things that's

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on the progressive, far left, leftist side of the spectrum.

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So that's why, Yeah, go ahead interrupt, Yes, sure, Why.

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Speaker 4: How prevalence today you use the term Marxist all the time. Yes, so,

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And I don't know, Frank, anybody that's calling themselves Marxist, No,

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why would they? Well I know, nor do I know folks.

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You know any real politician that you could look at

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and say, oh, well he's definitely a Marxist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, people don't. People don't, Mike. People don't like

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to use the term Marxist for themselves because Marxism has

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such negative connotations and associations, rightfully so rightfully so. See,

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They's like a key difference here is like, if you

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call me a capitalist, I'm going to say, yes, absolutely,

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I'm a free market capitalist, absolutely, Whereas when you call

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a Marxist a Marxist, they don't like being called that

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because they are ashamed of the one hundred million body

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bags attached to the philosophy. Yeah, so that's why you

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don't hear that term. But that's so to your original

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I'm sure a good faith question on DEI is that

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it's not necessarily like when you use the terms like,

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for example, women's healthcare instead of abortion, right, it's a

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manipulation of the language. When you say diversity, equity, and inclusion.

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Who could be against such a thing. Well, if you

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are implementing a system under that heading that forces people

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to view everybody through the oppressor and depressed lens all

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the time, you are creating people that are then trapped

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in what's called a victimhood mentality, where they see themselves

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as oppressed by some other and the other those kids

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that are lumped into the category of the other, they

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then carry guilt and they feel like they're being attacked

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as well. And this is why Harvard University its own

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research shows that when you implement these types of trainings

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in the workplace or in a school setting, that it

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actually doesn't reduce any of the tensions over these things.

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It actually exacerbates the problem because you're telling some You're

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telling one group of people that they are the oppressed,

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and they are right in all their feelings of oppression.

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They see slights and victimization where there are none. They

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ascribe motive to their oppressors. And then you have the

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other side where they're labeled the oppressor when they are not.

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And then they get very upset and now they are

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viewing the other groups as hostile to them where before

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they were not.

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Speaker 4: In this a situation in which because I know you

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have pulled out various instances here and there, and hear

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a story from someplace, and somebody said something, and this

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person got upset, et cetera. But in this a situation

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pee in which she can pull out various anecdotes and

473
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then attempt to extrapolate from them. Therefore, the entire system

474
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is just like this, and we must fight.

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Speaker 1: I would recommend, Mike, I would recommend that you explore

476
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the roots of the Dei movement and such, and you

477
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,440
will see the connections because they talk about them. The

478
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,799
people who create the pedagogy, the people who create this

479
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:10,079
entire effort, they are very clear, and they are out

480
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:13,039
in front. You go back twenty thirty forty years. There

481
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:17,000
are talking about this stuff, and it is Marxist in

482
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:19,960
its roots. They talk about it, they admit it, they

483
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,839
acknowledge it. So you know it's not a matter of

484
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,799
me pulling examples and anecdotes and then painting with the

485
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,000
broad brush. This is the intent. I take them at

486
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,200
their word. So I'm glad I could answer that question

487
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for you. I appreciate the call. Good to hear from you.

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a tweet. It's a pe tweet from Gary who says

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Mike's call and question boils down to one thing. Do

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you believe in equality of opportunity or in equity, They

510
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are not the same thing. Equity is not equality. Equity

511
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is the opposite. Equity requires you to give victims quote

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unquote victims more and disadvantage others. Right, So this has

513
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always been the case. I've been talking about critical race theory,

514
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,160
Graham she and Marxism. I've been in the long march

515
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,680
through the institutions. Right, it's all of the same ball

516
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,119
of poop which comes from Marx, which actually comes from Hegel.

517
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:27,680
So right, the philosophy, it morphs and it changes, and

518
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,079
you're seeing a lot of this also now on what

519
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,200
people are calling the woke right, same stuff, same stuff,

520
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:39,920
It changes based on whatever the issue happens to be

521
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,000
at the moment. I've been saying this also. James Lindsey

522
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said it first. I keep quoting him. The issue is

523
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:51,680
never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. And

524
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just because progressives or liberals or even people who think

525
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:00,319
of themselves as on the right, just because they don't

526
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,319
understand the roots of their philosophy that they are espousing,

527
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,200
doesn't mean those roots are not there. But they get

528
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:14,359
mad when I point out the roots of their philosophy.

529
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,720
But those are the roots. That's where this stuff comes from.

530
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:23,000
Whether it was critical race theory right, which had its moment, right,

531
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,079
And that's the same thing like, well, who could object

532
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,400
to sort of the concepts that there was slavery and

533
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,359
that was wrong, right, And that's the game. That's the

534
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,720
way that they induce the conversations and then direct it

535
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to the outcomes they prefer, which are Marxists. That's the point.

536
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:46,079
And so you do the privilege walks and oh, these

537
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,799
are just anecdotes. As Mike said, these are just anecdotes,

538
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and I'm extrapolating out yea, if it was one anecdote,

539
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,960
I would agree if it was five over the course

540
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,720
of you know, a decade, like okay, this is not

541
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:03,680
why spread. But it's all over the place, man, it's

542
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,960
all over the place. What do you think gender queer

543
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,039
theory is queer theory? What do you think that is?

544
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,720
It's of the same route it's these are. The issue

545
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:19,039
is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

546
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All of this stuff is simply designed to deconstruct, to

547
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,880
tear down the various pillars upon which Western civilization is built,

548
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,359
in order to usher in the utopia the better world,

549
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the perfect world, and under Hegelian philosophy, you keep tearing

550
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down in order to perfect. And in Hegel's view, the

551
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,720
perfection was the state, and you keep perfecting, and of

552
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,720
course the fatal conceit there is that as humans you

553
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:55,559
actually know what the perfect is. That's the fatal conceit

554
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,160
and therefore the fatal flaw and the entire philosophy. One

555
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,000
might even argue, satanically inspired to make people believe that

556
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they can know what the perfect is and they can

557
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480
implement it here on earth. And if you have to

558
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:12,039
murder one hundred million people to get there, well, so

559
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,000
be it. Sometimes, you know, you got to crack some

560
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:17,840
eggs in order to make an omelet, and then eventually

561
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,559
you end up with this perfected utopian society because you

562
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kept destroying everything along the way that wasn't the perfect.

563
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And of course, like you see, the problem here is

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not only knowing what is or is not the perfect,

565
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but then over the course of time, after you've destroyed

566
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so much, you end up in a position where the

567
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things you have kept may not actually be perfect any longer,

568
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or may not be perfect with the other pieces that

569
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you thought were perfect, and you kept and maybe now

570
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,519
they're in conflict. It's just chaos. That's the end result.

571
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It's always the same result. So that's why I call

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it Marxist. Why they called the people who advanced these ideas,

573
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,519
they consider themselves to be Marxists. They say that have

574
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said it. Read their own writings, Steve, Welcome to the program. Hello, Steve.

575
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Speaker 5: Hey, they I want to make a time. I had

576
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to come up with a play and a way to

577
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,239
work around when people that like Shawn calls in and

578
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,199
Mike calls in, my blood pressure starts the bull. And

579
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,960
I've come up with a solution for myself, and I

580
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,599
want to share it with your listeners because it works

581
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:33,519
pretty well. Okay, what I've started, what I've started doing

582
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:35,440
is is when they call it in, as soon as

583
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I hear their voice, I turn my radio all for

584
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,880
a minute and a half, and then when I turn

585
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,280
it back on, if I hear their voice say again,

586
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,199
I'd do it another minute and a half. And then

587
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,960
when I turn it back on, usually they're gone by

588
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,559
the end, and man, life goes on sweet as before.

589
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:49,199
So that works great, and I want to share that

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with you.

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Speaker 6: Listen.

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00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't help me Steve, give us the same.

593
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,000
I can't do that because I need to hear what

594
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they're saying so then I can dismantle it.

595
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:02,519
Speaker 5: But you hear the same things over and over again

596
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:04,800
from these guys. Are they going to stop?

597
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:05,199
Speaker 3: No?

598
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,599
Speaker 1: Well never, That's why it's the long march through the institutions.

599
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,679
It never stopped.

600
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,599
Speaker 5: I had to do something for preservation, I understand. But

601
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,800
they say the same things over and they got to

602
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,519
hear an agenda.

603
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: They're coming in. They're trying to.

604
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 5: Trap you, get you sure to say something. Sure, it's ridiculous,

605
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,360
it's ridiculous.

606
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,599
Speaker 1: Well see, here's so this is the problem, Steve, is

607
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:27,840
that I was a political science minor. And the rule

608
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,960
is an old axiom, really is that you never argue

609
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,239
with the political science student because at some point you

610
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:42,400
realize they enjoy it. All right, man, I appreciate the call. Yeah,

611
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,320
that's the uh, that's the sort of dirty little secret there.

612
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,079
I enjoy it. I like I because I have confidence

613
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:52,880
in my positions and I feel like I have done

614
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:58,239
enough of the research or the work to understand their arguments.

615
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,519
And that's why I when they when I hear their arguments,

616
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:06,000
I'm not surprised by the men. I usually have answers

617
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,159
for them. Melinda, Welcome to the show.

618
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: Hi, I'd just have a question.

619
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 6: Sure him, a white Christian heterosexual male ever be considered

620
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,679
a DEI higher?

621
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Speaker 1: Well, maybe in like a if there were to be

622
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,480
some sort of a quota higher for like a I

623
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:37,920
don't know, like an NBA team or something. Maybe wow.

624
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:41,599
And then my second, why is that a wow? Do

625
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:44,519
you don't believe that like if if, if if a

626
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:46,480
white guy was not if a white guy was not

627
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:48,079
good enough to make the team, but they put him

628
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:50,519
on the team anyway because he was white? Right, wouldn't

629
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:52,280
that fit the category that you're describing.

630
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Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, right, because, like.

631
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: We all believe that like professional sports, that's a merit

632
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,559
based system, only the best get to be on the team. Right, So,

633
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,599
like that's what makes sports. I feel like that's what

634
00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,559
makes sports so great is that it doesn't matter what

635
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:12,920
people's race or religion is, or their sexuality, None of

636
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,199
that stuff matters. The only thing that matters is do

637
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,519
they perform the best in their field? And that's who

638
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,440
you put on the court or on the field, right.

639
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: All Right? And my second, I just just had a

640
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:31,400
little thought here considering what DEI kind of like stands

641
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,599
for and what we're using it as. Not that he is,

642
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:40,039
but one could say, who believes in that that Vince

643
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:43,719
Cochley might be a DEI higher if they didn't know

644
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,280
any better and didn't know him because he's the only

645
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,360
black on air personality on your radio station somewhe.

646
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,199
Speaker 1: So this is a perfect Milinda. This is a perfect

647
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,480
example of viewing everything through that lens. It has so

648
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:58,920
corrupted your brain that you think that somehow or another,

649
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Vince doesn't the spot when he absolutely does. But thanks

650
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,000
for the totally good faith questions. All right, that'll do

651
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:11,599
it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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