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Speaker 1: Susan Smith spoke at her parole hearing thirty years after
Speaker 1: being convicted of murdering her two young children. This is
Speaker 1: the woman from South Carolina admitted to drowning her two
Speaker 1: children thirty years ago, unanimously denied parole before she appeared
Speaker 1: before the board for the first time today. She said
Speaker 1: to the parole board via zoom, I know that what
Speaker 1: I did was horrible and I would give anything if
Speaker 1: I could go back and change it.
Speaker 4: I love Michael and alex with all my heart.
Speaker 1: She was twenty three years old when she strapped her sons,
Speaker 1: three year old Michael and fourteen month old Alexander into
Speaker 1: their car seats and let the car roll into a
Speaker 1: lake near her home. At first, she lied to police instead,
Speaker 1: a black man carjacked her and kidnapped the boys.
Speaker 4: Her husband believed her.
Speaker 1: They appeared on TV for the suspect to bring the
Speaker 1: boys home. Police finally confronted her about a month after
Speaker 1: or excuse me, about a week or two after she
Speaker 1: did this, and she admitted to the killings.
Speaker 2: Again, do we even remember why she said she did that?
Speaker 4: It had to have been postpartum or they said.
Speaker 1: At the trial, prosecutors argued that she was having an
Speaker 1: affair and that her boyfriend broke off the relationship because
Speaker 1: of her children. The defense said she planned to die
Speaker 1: by suicide with her kids, but left the car at
Speaker 1: the last second.
Speaker 2: But that's vaguely what I remember.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 4: She wasn't wet, she wasn't injured, or any of that.
Speaker 4: They said that they did focus a lot on her
Speaker 4: mental health and her childhood. Her stepfather testified that he
Speaker 4: had sexually abused her for years. Man, what a mess.
Speaker 4: I remember that vaguely.
Speaker 3: She not only is it an uphill meeting, I sorry,
Speaker 3: an uphill climb because of the nature of her crime.
Speaker 2: She's also not been well behaved in prison. Oh really, she's.
Speaker 3: Had several sexual encounters with corrections officers. Oh, she was
Speaker 3: found with drugs at one point and was even in
Speaker 3: trouble for giving contact information for her family and her
Speaker 3: ex husband to the maker of a documentary.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, so rot bomb cyclone has hit the Pacific Northwest too.
Speaker 1: Dead in Washington killed by falling trees in Bellevue or
Speaker 1: used to live.
Speaker 4: A tree fell into a home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this woman was in a shower last night when
Speaker 3: the thing fell. The other one was a woman in
Speaker 3: her fifties killed when a tree fell in a homeless
Speaker 3: and campment.
Speaker 2: I checked a short time ago on.
Speaker 3: A power outage US and it said something like still
Speaker 3: four hundred and four hundred and seventy six thousand people
Speaker 3: without power in Washington State. And we're starting to see
Speaker 3: many power outages in California, up to about thirty five
Speaker 3: thousand customers without power up there in northern California because
Speaker 3: the storm is making.
Speaker 2: Its way through there.
Speaker 1: A guy in the Inland Empire was arrested of trying
Speaker 1: to set up a sexual encounter with a minor into Mecula.
Speaker 3: Some there is some concern here because they said the
Speaker 3: Riverside County Sheriff's Department is looking at this. There's a
Speaker 3: chance that this thing was orchestrated by local teenagers. What
Speaker 3: the sting operation themselves? The Riverside County Department s Sheriff's Department,
Speaker 3: So they found out about the encounter about four thirty
Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon, responded to Nicholas Road Park in Temecula.
Speaker 2: They found this guy forty six years old.
Speaker 3: He was found in possession of evidence that he had
Speaker 3: sent nude photographs to a child and he was surrounded
Speaker 3: by twenty juveniles at the location recording the incident with
Speaker 3: their cell phones.
Speaker 2: Interesting well that.
Speaker 1: They said, they called them vigilante teens lure this sex predator.
Speaker 4: Did he reach out to them and then them start
Speaker 4: to talk and arrange this sting?
Speaker 1: Like you see God to catch a predator on the telly,
Speaker 1: I do not know. Wow, that's fascinating.
Speaker 3: Thousands of patient care and service workers at UCLA, u
Speaker 3: SE or Revine other UCE campuses across the state are
Speaker 3: stage in a two day strike today alleging unfair bargaining practices.
Speaker 3: According to the local, the strike will include about thirty
Speaker 3: seven thousand u SE workers at every campus and medical
Speaker 3: facility across the state.
Speaker 1: I never liked that Tom's of Maine toothpaste always tasted
Speaker 1: a little off.
Speaker 3: My wife made fun of me when we first started
Speaker 3: dating because I had Tom of Maine toothpaste.
Speaker 4: What did she say?
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly what was said.
Speaker 3: I just knew that she thought it was strange that
Speaker 3: I would be of all the things that I would
Speaker 3: choose to go out of bounds on the toothpaste was
Speaker 3: such an odd Yeah. And now who's who's brushing her
Speaker 3: teeth with Toms of Maine?
Speaker 2: Now she is, Yes, she is. Sent her this article
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 4: She's been brushing her teeth with mold uh.
Speaker 3: Toms of Main's manufacturing facility apparently had significant violations, including
Speaker 3: bacteria in water used to make toothpaste and a black
Speaker 3: mold like substance.
Speaker 4: You've been you call her mold mouth.
Speaker 2: That's a good idea, Hey lady, Hey mold mouth.
Speaker 1: Well you've been nothing but charm here today, So I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you'll carry that on home as well.
Speaker 4: Did you hear about the dog that is stay?
Speaker 2: I'm so I'm so cold right now.
Speaker 4: I know it's is so.
Speaker 2: Freezing in this room.
Speaker 4: Do you have a jacket?
Speaker 2: This is a I thought this was a thick enough shirt.
Speaker 4: That I was that wool.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know it's it's it's a.
Speaker 1: Thick, long sleeve shirt and you thought you'd be okay
Speaker 1: in it. I'm wearing two shirts and a jacket and
Speaker 1: I'm still cold, and we've got this ridiculous Christmas tree.
Speaker 1: I mean mentioned the big stupid bow on the top.
Speaker 1: Jesus didn't die for a bow. He died for a star.
Speaker 1: Definitely not a pink, glittery bow.
Speaker 2: I know that. But this is also marking his birth
Speaker 2: not oh right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, he's not a girl.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a girl to like this
Speaker 1: is clearly a gender reveal tree.
Speaker 2: My baby is going to be a pink ice cream coat.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the it's a beautiful tree. It's
Speaker 1: just hideous in its color scheme and the and the
Speaker 1: ice cream cone ornaments are a little odd. Posted a
Speaker 1: picture of it on our Instagram story at Gary and
Speaker 1: Shannon excellent.
Speaker 6: Best thing ever is hearing you're having suits on at
Speaker 6: twelve thirty.
Speaker 2: I am so stoked. I cannot stand it.
Speaker 1: You guys are amazing, amazing, Well good, I'll take it.
Speaker 4: I'll take amazing suits his behalf.
Speaker 2: You take one for the team.
Speaker 3: Preferred side dishes for Thanksgiving. Every one of these is
Speaker 3: represented in these talkbacks. Mac and cheese is number five,
Speaker 3: green bean castroles number four, sweet potatoes number three, mashed
Speaker 3: potatoes number two, and stuffing and or dressing. The difference
Speaker 3: is something I don't understand. One of them has meat
Speaker 3: in it and the other doesn't, or something.
Speaker 1: I will look that up because people will get very
Speaker 1: very serious about that.
Speaker 2: The habits by generation.
Speaker 3: Forty five percent of gen Z can't get enough mac
Speaker 3: and cheese.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing that was never a thing.
Speaker 2: I never had mac and cheese.
Speaker 3: Fifty nine percent of baby boomers preferred stuffing dressing. About
Speaker 3: thirty two percent of baby boomers also preferred those those
Speaker 3: mashed potatoes, and about forty percent of Americans said they
Speaker 3: would prefer to have a plate full of sides but
Speaker 3: no turkey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do that. I lean on the sides and
Speaker 4: the rolls in the butter.
Speaker 3: My grandfather used to make these rolls that were pull
Speaker 3: apart kind of things.
Speaker 2: There were three little balls of dough. It would rose
Speaker 2: rise into the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good right, I love those. I usually wait
Speaker 1: for the turkey for the next day. I love a
Speaker 1: turkey sandwich. With Thanksgiving turkey, but the night of I'm
Speaker 1: more about the mashed potatoes and the stuffing. So with stuffing,
Speaker 1: what we do is what we do, like I freaking
Speaker 1: lift a finger on Thanksgiving. What my husband does is
Speaker 1: he makes some of the stuffing inside of the bird
Speaker 1: and then some of it outside. So the dressing would
Speaker 1: be the stuff that he makes outside, the stuffing that
Speaker 1: he isn't stuff and the stuffing that actuals put stuff
Speaker 1: you put inside the cavity of the bird, that is stuffing.
Speaker 2: I've never understood the difference.
Speaker 1: Bay.
Speaker 7: We've had this curried lima bean cathrole that we've had
Speaker 7: for years.
Speaker 6: And years oh Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: And absolutely delicious.
Speaker 1: It's I don't I love lima beans and I love curry.
Speaker 1: But that sounds like a dangerous roll of the dice.
Speaker 1: A house full of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the food that you got going in
Speaker 3: there on top of that, that's a lot. Hi.
Speaker 6: This is Linn from motion side. My favorite side dish
Speaker 6: for Thanksgiving is sweet potatoes with nicely brown marshmallows on top.
Speaker 6: So yummy. Thank you for asking. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone,
Speaker 6: have a blessed day.
Speaker 8: Thank you too, Hey, Gary and Shannon calling from the
Speaker 8: beautiful Pacific Northwest. My favorite Thanksgiving side is my homemade
Speaker 8: cheese bread I make every year. It's a yeast raising
Speaker 8: bread with sharp cheddar cheese and when it comes out
Speaker 8: of the oven, you rub a cube of butter over
Speaker 8: the top, potato right off in the top and it's
Speaker 8: extra good toasted butter on it.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, where's the address? Like, I just need
Speaker 4: to I'm going to her home.
Speaker 2: Sign up for a race on Friday, just so I
Speaker 2: can carbo load on Thursday.
Speaker 4: You don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 4: Cracking me up this morning?
Speaker 1: Uh here at our house is Chipotle yams sweep or
Speaker 1: sweet potatoes actually sweet potatoes butter, Chipotle sauce.
Speaker 3: Have you seen do you know how to hassle beck
Speaker 3: or what hassle beck styles potatoes are? Slice them really
Speaker 3: thin and they look like right, yeah, you stood up.
Speaker 4: And you just load it cream and butter and chilly
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm down with that.
Speaker 4: I love a baked potatow.
Speaker 9: Figure and Shannon. My favorite side dish for Thanksgiving is
Speaker 9: Gulliver's cream corn. Shannon. You might know that, depending how
Speaker 9: old you are. I think it was in the same
Speaker 9: place where Clark's by the Bay and Charlie Brown's were
Speaker 9: in the Bay Area. But I make it every Thanksgiving
Speaker 9: and Christmas for the family and everyone loves it. Everybody.
Speaker 9: Thanksgiving guys, Thank.
Speaker 2: You by the Bay.
Speaker 4: They're closed decades ago.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 5: The best part about Thanksgiving dinner is corn bread dressing
Speaker 5: with a lot of a lot of cranberry sauce.
Speaker 2: So amazing that you can keep the turkey, you can
Speaker 2: keep the tail, the yams.
Speaker 5: Just give me that corn braid dressing and that kid
Speaker 5: cranberry sauce.
Speaker 4: Yep, I love corn bread.
Speaker 3: I'm saying things like I love answert, I love a potato.
Speaker 2: I love buttery.
Speaker 10: Morning guys. For Thanksgiving. It always goes back to me
Speaker 10: what they call stuffing slash dressing, because my mom, who's
Speaker 10: not been with us for a very long time, she
Speaker 10: used to do it the old fashioned way, put it
Speaker 10: inside the turkey, the stuffing, and man, that just that taste.
Speaker 9: I can even taste it right now.
Speaker 10: Now. I know you're not supposed to do that anymore.
Speaker 10: I don't know for what reason, but that's the thing
Speaker 10: I always go back to, is a good stuffing slash.
Speaker 3: Dressing There's nothing wrong with finishing that stuff outside too.
Speaker 3: You can take it out of the bird, continue to
Speaker 3: cook it and make sure that.
Speaker 1: I'd like that because it gets a little crispy on
Speaker 1: the top. I like a little crisp. I don't like
Speaker 1: it to be soggy. Yeah, I don't like juicy, soggy stuffing.
Speaker 5: Gary Shannon Bob here from Big Beer Bob. No, Thanksgiving
Speaker 5: is complete without a little German side dish. Red cabbage
Speaker 5: sauer kout, not by itself. You gotta saw taste some onions,
Speaker 5: make some bacon on the side of some sausage, set
Speaker 5: in and popp it in the oven. Get it, it's
Speaker 5: gold on it.
Speaker 2: You got a good little side dish there, Love you guys.
Speaker 2: Throw some sausage out this.
Speaker 11: Yeah, put a little brought up in that, hey, Gary
Speaker 11: and Shannon Lisa here. Favorite side dish for Thanksgiving is
Speaker 11: macaraine cheese. Not the saucy cheese, but the chunks of
Speaker 11: cheese with some milk and salt and peppers. Yum. And uh,
Speaker 11: sweet potatoes with marshmallows.
Speaker 4: Yeah. A lot of people don't like that, but it's
Speaker 4: it was the best. I guess.
Speaker 11: It just brings back family time. Parents are from the South,
Speaker 11: so I have a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 12: Thank you very much, you too, Hey, Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 12: This is Sean from Long Beach. God bless my mother
Speaker 12: in law who has passed eight years ago already. I
Speaker 12: can hardly believe it, but she made the most amazing
Speaker 12: mashed potatoes on the planet ever, and I used to
Speaker 12: almost eat up every single mashed potato.
Speaker 2: I agree. So he ended up making me my own bowl.
Speaker 12: Of mashed potatoes and told everybody that they are not
Speaker 12: allowed to eat out of my bowl of mashed potatoes.
Speaker 1: That is like the sweetest thing that can happen, Like
Speaker 1: when you never feel truly loved unless you have a
Speaker 1: relative make you your own insert name of thing here.
Speaker 1: This is Gary's cranberry sauce. Only Gary's gonna eat this
Speaker 1: cranberry sauce. And You're like, Wow, I feel seen and loved.
Speaker 2: And said best side stuffing.
Speaker 13: But I think I can talk that with a recipe
Speaker 13: I found last year for red mashed potatoes using heavy
Speaker 13: whipping cream and butter salt.
Speaker 6: Pe.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, the potatoes. Gotta have the cream red potatoes.
Speaker 14: Good morning, guys, love the show. My favorite sides and
Speaker 14: I'm gonna include turkey because my main dish.
Speaker 2: Is the rolls and butter.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm eating those.
Speaker 14: Before the prayer said, but it would be a turkey
Speaker 14: mashed potatoes stuffing and green bean casserole.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I am here and I'm diabetic. After listening
Speaker 4: to all that, and it feels real good.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Brian Suits will join us. We will
Speaker 1: get an update all about what's going on with Russia
Speaker 1: and Ukraine and our involvement there.
Speaker 2: You guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys,
Speaker 2: you guys, you guys, you guys, have no excited, have no.
Speaker 13: Idea how excited I am the suits. I'm so excited.
Speaker 13: I just screamed on a constrassion side out loud. Yeah,
Speaker 13: let's go with the suits.
Speaker 1: The US is closing its embassy in Ukraine after warning
Speaker 1: of a possible significant air attack by Russian forces. US
Speaker 1: embassy and Kiev issued the urgent warning this morning, saying
Speaker 1: it had received specific information about a potential attack and
Speaker 1: that it's an employees should shelter in place. Trump is
Speaker 1: naming US former Acting AG Matthew Whittaker as the next
Speaker 1: ambassador to NATO. He said He's a strong warrior, loyal
Speaker 1: patriot president, said Whittaker.
Speaker 4: President elect.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, he said, Whittaker will and sure America's interests
Speaker 1: are advanced and defended. He was acting ag for about
Speaker 1: three months during Trump's first term. Other news out of Washington,
Speaker 1: the Speaker the House as transgender women like incoming congress
Speaker 1: Woman elect Sarah McBride, will not be allowed to use
Speaker 1: women's restrooms. All single sex facilities in the Capitol and
Speaker 1: House office buildings, restrooms, changing areas, locker rooms are reserved
Speaker 1: for individuals of that biological sex. He noted that each
Speaker 1: representative's office has its own private bathroom, and the US
Speaker 1: Capital also has unisex restrooms, So again making an issue
Speaker 1: out of where there is no issue from really both
Speaker 1: sides there to be honest. And then the news, of course,
Speaker 1: the illegal immigrant convicted of hunting and killing that nursing
Speaker 1: stew from University of Georgia who is out on a
Speaker 1: run as being sentenced to life without a parole. He
Speaker 1: waved his jury trial so he had a bench trial.
Speaker 1: Josey Barrow was found guilty on all ten counts by
Speaker 1: the judge who handed down that verdict. What a nice
Speaker 1: I mean not that it's nice for talking about the
Speaker 1: murder of a girl, but for a judge not to
Speaker 1: have to deal with a jury, just to be able
Speaker 1: to hand out justice swiftly. I mean the sentencing the
Speaker 1: same day as a verdict and not mess.
Speaker 3: With people all of it, people who don't know what's
Speaker 3: going on. Right, did we get him, Jacob, I'm not
Speaker 3: sure we got them in.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Let me just check. Let me see
Speaker 2: if I hit that. What, No, that wouldn't work?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I did. That was my fault because
Speaker 2: I have fat thumbs.
Speaker 3: We're going to do what you watch on Wednesday here
Speaker 3: coming up in just a couple of minutes, So make
Speaker 3: sure you let us know what it is that you
Speaker 3: have been watching it.
Speaker 1: We've got a trio of trailers up on the website.
Speaker 1: It's a Koudro movie.
Speaker 4: I know you love her. She's in your your on
Speaker 4: your list of women.
Speaker 2: I have just said it was the last thing that
Speaker 2: I saw her in that was.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, kind of grating.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Studio trailer, it's a TV it's an Apple TV
Speaker 1: Plus comedy seth Rogen's new comedy series. It's called The Studio.
Speaker 1: And then the first Minecraft movie trailer. Apparently it was
Speaker 1: a complete mess.
Speaker 3: It's with Jack Black and Jason. What's the guy's name?
Speaker 3: Played Aquaman.
Speaker 4: You're asking the wrong person. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: It is that the the tnky guy that everybody loses
Speaker 3: their mind over. Thor No, I said Aquaman. Well, I
Speaker 3: don't know if there was crossover. So you remember the
Speaker 3: whole Barbie thing, Barbon, Barbenheimer or what have you? Sure
Speaker 3: they're hoping that that's gonna happen again this weekend because
Speaker 3: there's two blockbuster films hitting the holiday box office kicking
Speaker 3: it off.
Speaker 4: Shall we say it's Wicked?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: We've seen no shortage of promotional segments on Wicked and
Speaker 1: Gladiator too, and they're calling it glicked.
Speaker 4: That's what the mashup is trying to be.
Speaker 1: This is the course At adaptation of the long running
Speaker 1: musical starring Ariana Grande and Cynthia Arrivo. They say that
Speaker 1: thing is going to earn at least one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars in its first weekend, which would shatter the record
Speaker 1: for the best opening for a Broadway adaptation. And then
Speaker 1: Ridley Scott's sequel to his two thousand Oscar Winner Gladiator.
Speaker 4: That was a great movie. I really enjoyed that. That
Speaker 4: was Russell Crowe.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and this one's getting pretty pretty spectacular review.
Speaker 3: Visit early on Denzel's in this one.
Speaker 1: Oh, Denzel's like, Oh, did you see that article from
Speaker 1: Denzel over the weekend about how he was a big drinker.
Speaker 4: He's been sober for ten years.
Speaker 1: But there was something in that movie Flight that just
Speaker 1: like rang a little too true in that movie. If
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, I'm not spoiling anything, because it's
Speaker 1: in the first thirty seconds of the movie that you
Speaker 1: notice that Denzel Washington, a major commercial pilot, has a
Speaker 1: drinking and nosecandy problem. And there was just something in
Speaker 1: that movie where I'm like, he is an incredible actor,
Speaker 1: but also he has to know a little bit about
Speaker 1: being afflicted with these addictions to play it that well, right,
Speaker 1: And he did, And he said that, Yeah, he never
Speaker 1: was like strung out on drugs like he did drugs,
Speaker 1: but he was never strung out on him. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a liquor guy. He said that wine was his problem.
Speaker 1: That he would get into wine. He said, wine can
Speaker 1: be tricky because you know before you know it you've
Speaker 1: had a bottle, he said. I had a wine cellar
Speaker 1: with bottles that were worth thousands and thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: that I was just blowing through.
Speaker 2: Wow, he's like.
Speaker 1: And then I got to the point where I would
Speaker 1: blow through all of it, and I would call the
Speaker 1: Sunset Liquors in Hollywood and have them deliver just two
Speaker 1: bottles of the best stuff that they had. And my
Speaker 1: wife told me, he said that she put a cap
Speaker 1: on it at two bottles because if I stopped, if
Speaker 1: I drank the two bottles, and I would just stop
Speaker 1: because there's no more left.
Speaker 4: But if I had more than I would have drink
Speaker 4: those two.
Speaker 2: Yikes, like a day, two full bottles of wine in
Speaker 2: a night by himself.
Speaker 4: Well, he said, throughout the day, which doesn't make it
Speaker 4: any better. That's still that cat. You can't you can't
Speaker 4: start in the morning and go all day every day. Wow,
Speaker 4: it is a rough interesting though.
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting because because that because that
Speaker 1: role he did play very well. He said he wasn't drinking,
Speaker 1: by the way, when he when he did that movie,
Speaker 1: and that when he did shoot movies or go to
Speaker 1: rehearsals or whatever, he would he never drank.
Speaker 3: It was always like either work or the wine. So functioning, yeah,
Speaker 3: but but clearly that was relying on it for the
Speaker 3: wrong things. There's another there's a business version of TV
Speaker 3: news that's going on right now, and that is that
Speaker 3: Comcast had announced plan to spin off most of its
Speaker 3: cable TV networks into a separate, publicly traded company. The
Speaker 3: company includes USA Network, CNBC, MSNBC, oxygen E, sci Fi,
Speaker 3: and the Golf Channel. They're going to keep a bunch
Speaker 3: of their key NBC Universal assets, the NBC Broadcast Network
Speaker 3: obviously NBC News, NBC Sports. They're going to keep their
Speaker 3: streaming service Peacock, and then the cable channel Bravo as well.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 3: We got news today that the US embasc and Kiev
Speaker 3: had temporarily closed its doors out of an abundance of
Speaker 3: caution because of concerns of a specific threat potential missiles
Speaker 3: that might be aimed at it. We also learned today
Speaker 3: that President Biden has authorized the provision of anti personnel
Speaker 3: landmines to Ukraine, pretty controversial piece of equipment there, and
Speaker 3: we wanted to get some of the details about all
Speaker 3: of this and what it could mean going forward, and
Speaker 3: to do that A familiar voice here, Brian Suits, host
Speaker 3: of The Dark Secret Place. The podcast available on Patreon,
Speaker 3: Follow them on x slash Twitter at Dark Secret Place.
Speaker 4: Top of the afternoon. To you, sir, how are you great?
Speaker 3: How is how is your homestead with the double bomb
Speaker 3: cyclone that's gone through up there.
Speaker 7: Double bottom bomb cyclone? Well, thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 7: All right, we we lot to two dead sent trees.
Speaker 7: But that's neither hear nord there.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's that's much better than some people.
Speaker 1: Fair well, this isn't getting a lot of coverage, honestly,
Speaker 1: the fact that Ukraine is now using our weapons to
Speaker 1: shoot and fire into Russia. How is this going over
Speaker 1: with Vladimir Putin? Oh?
Speaker 6: Real good?
Speaker 7: He went, he went nuclear on limit here. He immediately
Speaker 7: used it as an excuse because because the Russians have
Speaker 7: never used at your weapons, they've seen pictures of what
Speaker 7: happened when we did. None of us have a living
Speaker 7: memory of the nuclear weapons. The Russians talk about it
Speaker 7: like it's a big round of artillery. And so when
Speaker 7: we're using conventional ballistic missiles into Russia. Putin comes back.
Speaker 7: He's a AGB guy, not an army guy. He comes back.
Speaker 7: He says, well, you know, maybe I use nuclear weapons.
Speaker 7: And he says that, like he just tells the army
Speaker 7: to usually at the last big caliber. He didn't understand
Speaker 7: that the West is very sheepish about this, about this thing.
Speaker 7: It's a big deal. It's a really big deal. And
Speaker 7: because the Russians keep nuclear weapons co mingled with our artillery,
Speaker 7: they don't store them in Siberia at a mile below
Speaker 7: the ground. They keep them up and ready to use,
Speaker 7: and they're really yet hand You could say.
Speaker 3: In a general sense, do you get the impression that
Speaker 3: the Biden deministration is doing something to tip the scales
Speaker 3: in this thing before Trump takes office.
Speaker 7: I'd get the feeling that all the handcuffs are off.
Speaker 7: I mean, okay, he went with them one tank, he
Speaker 7: went two years past at sixteene. They're finally having an impact.
Speaker 7: Now now he's using the you know, the the last
Speaker 7: Uh what do we want to say, uh, you know,
Speaker 7: ploy with putin in the hopes that maybe something will
Speaker 7: have an effect. It's gonna wind up with Russia and
Speaker 7: to go seam with Ukraine. Well, well, Trumps president, so
Speaker 7: no way, no way does Biden get the the acclaim
Speaker 7: for this.
Speaker 1: What do you make of North Korea's involvement sending the
Speaker 1: troops there to Russia on the you know, the front
Speaker 1: lines there now there have been reports that the Russian
Speaker 1: soldiers are like, what the hell do we do with
Speaker 1: these guys? There are reports that the North Korean soldiers
Speaker 1: are gouging themselves on porn because they are not under
Speaker 1: the watchful eye of North Korea.
Speaker 4: What do you make of that partnership.
Speaker 7: It is a disaster, it's a it's a disaster. The
Speaker 7: Russians wish they had they could undo because they didn't
Speaker 7: have a control making them from the North Koreans. The
Speaker 7: Russians already have the FSB. The FSB was not ready
Speaker 7: for this, you know, for thirty thousand or fifty thousand
Speaker 7: North Koreans without North Korean secret police. And these guys
Speaker 7: barely are at the scale of a new inductee in
Speaker 7: the North Korean army. They can barely hold a weapon,
Speaker 7: and so the Russians. So they're not much better than
Speaker 7: a Russian inductee. So they're not fearsome, they're not scary,
Speaker 7: they don't march around, they didn't bring their nice uniforms.
Speaker 7: The Russians wish they can undo this because these guys
Speaker 7: so far have been ambushed. The Ukrainians have been flying
Speaker 7: drones into their formations and their tents and their their lodgments,
Speaker 7: and they've been terrifying them. And the North Koreans will
Speaker 7: ending out there's no wire on this camp. I think
Speaker 7: go any where I want. I think I'll go to freedom.
Speaker 3: We're talking with Ryan Suits, host of Dark Secret Place.
Speaker 3: You can find the podcast on Patreon. This, uh, this
Speaker 3: new provision of authorizing anti personnel land minds to Ukraine.
Speaker 3: First of all, why are they so controversial and why
Speaker 3: is this a big deal.
Speaker 7: Well, they're controversial because they don't yell back. They're they're
Speaker 7: the the the perfect uh you know, pacifist avatar to
Speaker 7: point to and say, that's a really evil thing. Well,
Speaker 7: you know what, it's war boo freakin' who bullet earily evil.
Speaker 7: I I spend a year in Bosnia learning that that
Speaker 7: land mon's early evil. Then I spend a year and
Speaker 7: a half becoming a field artiloutser finding out that land
Speaker 7: minds are really awesome when we're on your side there.
Speaker 7: The problem is they don't know when to blow up.
Speaker 7: They will blow up when you up on them. They
Speaker 7: don't care what you are, a boy scout or a
Speaker 7: soldier or whatever. But if no one steps on them,
Speaker 7: they will sit there until a cow or a farmer
Speaker 7: steps on them. So they're really random. So those a
Speaker 7: nineteen ninety seven Paul McCartney got himself a wife with
Speaker 7: one leg, and she didn't lose her leg in a landmind.
Speaker 7: She lost it like in a on the Isle of
Speaker 7: Man on a motorcycle accent something. And not that you
Speaker 7: have any greater moral authority when you lose your leg
Speaker 7: in a landmine. But the left in the West decided
Speaker 7: that landmines were the worst thing ever. And then then
Speaker 7: right on schedule, they had the first sculp for And
Speaker 7: I learned that landmindes are damn convenient when they're on
Speaker 7: your side, but they are inconvenient and when you have
Speaker 7: to go over them. And but they're really really good
Speaker 7: at keeping the bad guys on their side of the
Speaker 7: land mines. And and when that's when that line is interact.
Speaker 7: The new smart lend mind self destruct and they have
Speaker 7: a automatic self destruct either in twelve hours or you
Speaker 7: can set the time or whatever. They don't wait for
Speaker 7: a cow or Diane Keaton to walk over them. They
Speaker 7: they go off when you say go off, it's your mind.
Speaker 7: And so they have a use, just like all weapons,
Speaker 7: they have a use. And you know, in all treaties
Speaker 7: we've had with the Soviet Union, and the last one
Speaker 7: really was to land the anti personnal landmine. And I
Speaker 7: know it's nineteen ninety seven, but the remnants of the
Speaker 7: Soviet Union were still there. But those treaties never.
Speaker 1: Have a.
Speaker 7: A self destruct or a let's all blow or line
Speaker 7: land mines up at the same time tomorrow and noon.
Speaker 7: They don't do that. They just say, at your convenience,
Speaker 7: destroy the landmines. Well, as it turns out, nobody did.
Speaker 7: The Russians didn't, and they're using them now. The Ukrainians
Speaker 7: were still in Russia and they're using them now. And
Speaker 7: we didn't even destroy ours, and so we're using ours,
Speaker 7: thank you very much, and we'll make sure the Calezone
Speaker 7: step on them.
Speaker 1: If you had Paul McCartney's ex wife with one leg
Speaker 1: on your Bingo card, congratulations.
Speaker 4: Heather Mills tragically.
Speaker 1: Lost that left leg below her knee in an accident
Speaker 1: involving a police motorcycle. Hey, suits, so what do you
Speaker 1: make of a, we're running out of time, But just briefly,
Speaker 1: what do you make out of Trump's relationship with Putin?
Speaker 4: What can we expect when that when that gets rolling again?
Speaker 7: Well, I think that he rolled. I think he's gonna
Speaker 7: be rolled. I think people in the American defense establishment
Speaker 7: are gonna They're gonna do what they want to do,
Speaker 7: and they're going to get the Russians UH to have
Speaker 7: fear of NATO landmine because everything NATO makes is really
Speaker 7: evil and really effective, and so far we've been the
Speaker 7: minds we've used against the Russians. They have tremendou a
Speaker 7: fear of NATO weapons. And I think that what he'll want.
Speaker 7: And part of the reason that Ukraine went into Russia
Speaker 7: in August was to give it back to them, and
Speaker 7: I think that he'll be convinced. Look, how about if
Speaker 7: they give you their their bitter Russia and you give
Speaker 7: them their bitter Ukraine back and Bob's your uncle, you know, handswaps,
Speaker 7: and it will it'll be a big sunk in.
Speaker 4: Interesting. Hey, thanks for for hanging out.
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