WEBVTT 1 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:57.840 Oh Willow who also, and. 2 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:23.599 Yes, good to be back man, don okay, so welcome, welcome, 3 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:24.680 it's good to have you here. 4 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.519 It is a Thursday night. It's a rainy Thursday at that. 5 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.200 It's gonna be raining for the next but it looks 6 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.640 to be next couple of days. I don't know. Te 7 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.040 Ball is supposed to start on Saturday morning, but it 8 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:37.640 looks like the whole day is going to be a wash. 9 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:42.439 So hey, you know what, April showers bring May flowers. 10 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:46.560 Huh does that happen still? Or have the flowers been 11 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.079 pushed back to June? I forget, but thank you for 12 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:52.760 being here. Tonight it's gonna be a good one. It 13 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:56.640 is the tenth day of April, April tenth, twenty twenty five, 14 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.439 at seven o'clock on the nose, seven oh one, depending 15 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:03.719 on what you're using. And tonight we've got a couple 16 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.719 of great things going on. Number one, it's just Thursday, 17 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:10.319 and I love Thursday nights. It's a tradition of me 18 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.280 loving Thursday nights. Jay Dyer is coming on. He's the 19 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:16.520 guest of honor. He'll be with us in a few minutes. 20 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:19.719 He's our guest this evening. Jay'sanalysis dot com. All of 21 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.719 his links are in the description of this episode, and 22 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:26.439 I wanted to do an intelligence Intelligence Service deep dive 23 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:31.680 with him top ten operations known to the public and 24 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:35.360 other things, especially time to expand into Hollywood, because not 25 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:39.840 only is it closely related to intelligence service activity, but 26 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:44.719 Jay is about to release another book on the subject soon. 27 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.599 Esoteric Hollywood three is coming out soon. You can get 28 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:51.360 it on pre order right now. And that's what we 29 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:55.360 have there. Other than that, there is so much else happening, 30 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.879 so much else happening. This right here, I'm playing off 31 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:03.360 of the This is Kenobi Chasing Clouds, and I'm playing 32 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.520 it off of the quite Frankly Spring Fever playlist that 33 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:11.039 is included in this month's episode on not episode bulletin 34 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:14.759 the April edition of the Quite Frankly Bulletin. You can 35 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:17.520 get that in the description below, or it is archived 36 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:19.919 on quite frankly dot tv. It's all over the place, 37 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:22.800 and if you just can't find it, email me. I'll 38 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:24.759 send it right to you. You got to read the bulletins. 39 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:26.560 They're so great, and we feature a lot of great 40 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.360 stuff from the fans as well. 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I think 62 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:40.199 it's great. A lot of people are doing a lot 63 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.680 of a lot more in person stuff. There's something we'll 64 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.560 be announcing sometime soon that we're aiming for the end 65 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.839 of summer. I really want to be able to get 66 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:52.839 out to one of these great American restoration to our 67 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:54.800 events or because I know that bad Lands have been 68 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:59.120 doing this for a while, because Zach Zach Paine red 69 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:03.600 Pill would always be like, hey, you know, you know 70 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.279 what's going on. Uh. He would always be like, I'm 71 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:07.800 gonna be here, gonna be here. I think that the 72 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:10.560 Vegas one, there's other thing. 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Okay, Well that's that. 83 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:44.240 Let's get this one kicked off because we're gonna have 84 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.199 Jay Dyer on the show with us in just a 85 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.519 few minutes. It'll be a deep one. It's gonna be great. 86 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:53.720 Every time that Jay comes by. Man, we just it 87 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:57.240 can go in any direction, and it usually does. All right, 88 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.000 ladies and gentlemen, we will be right back in a floor, 89 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.639 so don't skidaddle. 90 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:10.879 By the way, the definition of the word retard is 91 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:15.199 to hinder or to hold someone back. I think your 92 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.639 life is about to become retarded. 93 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.600 Do you let one ant stand up to us, then 94 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:39.920 they all might stand up. 95 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:44.879 Those puny little ants outnumber us one hundred to one. 96 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.480 And if they ever figure that out, there goes our 97 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:49.279 way of life. 98 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:51.279 It's not about food. 99 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.519 It's about keeping those ants in line. 100 00:06:55.360 --> 00:07:00.079 That's why we're going back. Does anybody else want to stay? 101 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:02.959 Sorry? 102 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.160 Hello, everybody, that was the pre show. This is the 103 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:50.279 real show. Welcome one, Welcome all. So you know we're 104 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:52.360 gonna be talking a lot about we'll be getting into 105 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.160 movies tonight in a little bit. But there's a lot 106 00:07:55.240 --> 00:08:01.720 more that predates that. The influence, the powers that influenced 107 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:04.839 the movies and everything else that goes along with our culture. 108 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.680 But it's not even that, it's more. I mean, you 109 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:09.879 think about what we've gotten just over the last couple 110 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:15.160 of weeks alone with the Arc of the Covenant. I 111 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:19.079 know that the the the Pyramids and all of those 112 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:23.040 those satellite scans that opened up. You know, the conversation 113 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.199 about what is going on two kilometers below the surface 114 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:30.079 over there in Egypt is not CIA related. But we 115 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:32.360 got a lot more on that. We got. We got 116 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.840 talks about remote viewing, not only the Arc of the Covenant, 117 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.360 but then there was also Mars. Of course that that 118 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:42.559 brings in all of the past, the past stuff that 119 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.600 we've learned from the Monroe Institute. We've also got this 120 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.919 from the Pulse. A couple of weeks ago, some UFO 121 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:55.159 abductions were simulated CIA psychological warfare experiments. What else did 122 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:58.559 they do? Now, this one I'm definitely going to bring 123 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.879 up when we have Timothy Alberina back on the show. 124 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.240 Maybe that'll be in another Thursday Night. The picture above 125 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:08.440 is of Joseph Allen Heinik, an American astronomer, professor and ufologist. 126 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:12.240 Heinick acted as a scientific advisor to UFO studies undertaken 127 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.320 by the US Air Force under three consecutive projects, Project Sign, 128 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.759 Project Grudge, Project Blue Book nineteen fifty two to nineteen 129 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.320 sixty nine. The man next to him is doctor Jacques Valais. 130 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.759 So the roots run deep, my friends, they really do 131 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.519 all over the place. That being said, I mentioned Mars before. 132 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.080 I'll have a little bit more on that later on 133 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.720 tonight too, because it's been getting around at Mars. It's 134 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.240 been discovered by whatever means we're going to learn about it, 135 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:49.320 that it has enough water for a one mile planetary 136 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:55.039 wide ocean. You hear that water, Never seen it, never 137 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.919 seen a drop in my life, but they found a 138 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:01.039 lot of it. And this was a nineties the entire 139 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:04.240 world would be at a standstill. But did this stuff 140 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:06.919 just just not move the needle for anybody anymore? I 141 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:08.840 don't think it moves the needle for Jay dye Er either. 142 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.320 I don't think it does. We also have some more 143 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.600 on this as far as cloning goes. I want to 144 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.799 bring that up. I want to bring up all of 145 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.320 the You know, when you talk about Hollywood, you can 146 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.799 go into there's so many places where the road forks, 147 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:28.240 and one of those places is celebrity cloning. I don't 148 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:29.799 know if we're going to have enough time for that tonight, 149 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:32.799 but I really love to bring it up because Jay 150 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:36.720 was also a co host. He co hosted a few 151 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:40.559 books book clubs with me. We did Brave New World. 152 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.360 We did The Godfather together. I think those are the 153 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.559 other two we did. But Brave New World was incredible 154 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:49.360 because we really started breaking down and getting, you know, 155 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.080 getting really well acquainted along with the audience that took 156 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:59.639 part in it, with the genetic structure of that world, 157 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.840 which of course was written by Aldous Huxley, and this 158 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.159 was written as an apology. He was an apologist for 159 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:10.960 that New World Order type. That wasn't It wasn't a 160 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.279 a warning. It wasn't day Hey, listen, this is the 161 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.080 this is the path we're on if we don't watch ourselves. 162 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.240 This was a hey, this is what's going to get 163 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.440 served up to you. And oh, well, well, we're coming 164 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.240 up on one hundred years later, and boy, oh boy, oh. 165 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:28.080 We had think about the headlines we had just in 166 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.039 the last couple of weeks. Aside from the fact that 167 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:36.559 we've have the first de extinction cloning resurrection clone of 168 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.600 a dire Wolf, we have a follow up to all 169 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.320 of those. What was it is? I think it was 170 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.279 in twenty twenty four, probably one of the last times 171 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.159 that Jay came on, to be honest, early twenty twenty 172 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.360 four or late twenty twenty three, they were talking about 173 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.960 these bags almost like latex bags that can act as 174 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:02.279 artificial wombs or artificial placentas that they were trying to develop, 175 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.600 at least for a certain point in gestation, these baby 176 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:10.399 lambs in these little latex sacks or something like that 177 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:14.279 in these laboratories, which, of course, all of the stated 178 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:17.320 intention was that this would be there as options for 179 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:21.720 premature babies to be incubated in a little bit more 180 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:26.200 of a natural environment instead of outside of a mother, 181 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:31.320 outside of the womb. And you know, there's some people 182 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.080 that will applaud that, and I'm sure that options like 183 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.279 this would be very, very helpful for in the future. 184 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.799 But is it always the stated intent? Is the stated 185 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:41.440 intent always? 186 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:41.679 Really? 187 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.039 What's going on? You earn back in twenty eighteen. I 188 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:47.639 don't want to run into Jay here, He's going to 189 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:49.120 be coming on any second here. But you remember, in 190 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:52.720 twenty eighteen there's this from MIT, which is also the 191 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.120 MIT technology reviews. Also, what's been talking about the brainless 192 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.759 bodies that are coming our way, or at least that 193 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.440 they want to be able to start growing brainless, soulless 194 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:08.919 bodies that just essentially provide not only organs but meet Okay, 195 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.559 this was twenty eighteen. Chinese scientists are creating crisper babies. 196 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.720 A daring effort is underway to create the first children 197 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:20.960 whose DNA has been tailored using gene editing. So to say, ohthough, 198 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.200 you know, they were a long way off for humans 199 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.120 and they were just doing this with dire wolves and 200 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:31.759 dodo birds. It's bullshit. No, it's not happening. It's already happened. 201 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:38.000 It's already happened, my friends. So I want to be 202 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:39.639 able to just get a lot of this out on 203 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:42.600 the table for you tonight, and Jay will be joining 204 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:44.080 us in a little bit. The other thing I want 205 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:45.919 to bring up, and I might bring it up first, 206 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.519 is something that one of you guys had thrown my 207 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:53.200 way during the coffee meeting on Monday morning on YouTube. Well, 208 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.600 we had our Monday morning coffee meeting, which is open 209 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:58.879 for all usually around eleven am. Haven't missed a Monday 210 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.360 since we started it. So it's been kind of a 211 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:06.120 set thing. But one of you guys through the Richard 212 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:12.240 Day Tapes my way, and I remember them. I remember 213 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.120 looking into them, and I think Jay had gone into 214 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.279 them as well, which I think would be really interesting 215 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.399 way to start all this off, because you want to 216 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:23.039 talk about you want to talk about planning a society, 217 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:29.840 how to then demolish and rebuild a society. That's something 218 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.919 that I think is worthy of digging into. For those 219 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:34.240 of you who don't know, here's a little bit of 220 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:37.679 a background. The Richard Day Tapes, more formally known as 221 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.080 the New Order of Barbarians Tapes, refers to a series 222 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:44.759 of audio recordings made by doctor Lawrence Dunnigan in nineteen 223 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.879 eighty eight and nineteen ninety one. These recordings recount a 224 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.399 lecturer that Dunnegan claims he attended on March twentieth, nineteen 225 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.360 sixty nine, delivered by doctor Richard Day, a prominent physician 226 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:59.960 and professor of pediatrics who was also involved with Planned parenthood. 227 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.799 According to Dunnaghan, Day spoke to a group of medical 228 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.440 professionals and students of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society, sharing what 229 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:10.919 he presented as insider knowledge about a planned future for 230 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.200 a society, orchestrated by a powerful group that he referred 231 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:19.360 to as the new Order of Barbarians. Day allegedly asked 232 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:22.080 attendees not to take notes or record the lectures, citing 233 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:26.440 potential personal repercussions of his remarks became public. The content 234 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.200 of the tapes outlined are wide ranging agenda purportedly designed 235 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:34.399 to reshape society over decades. Dunnaghan recalled the day discussing 236 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:39.799 topics such as population control, changes in medical care, societal restructuring, 237 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:42.600 and the erosion of traditional values, all framed as part 238 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:46.039 of a deliberate plan by an elite group. Here's a breakdown. 239 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:51.279 Number one. Population Control Day allegedly predicted because these are 240 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:55.360 all like most things of this nature, whether it be 241 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:58.200 the Albert Pike letters or something else like that. Some 242 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.159 people say it's true, it's others say there's no evidence 243 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:07.960 and it's all myth. But just like the Albert Pike letters, 244 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:14.480 the illuminati that outline the three world wars, it does 245 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.000 say something that so far we are on track, and 246 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:22.200 it's almost to the t the punctuation mark that things 247 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.879 have been progressing. So they allegedly predicted measures to limit 248 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:32.679 population growth. In growth including promoting smaller families to child maximums, 249 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.039 making divorce easier and more common, encouraging euthanasia for the 250 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:39.879 elderly deem no longer useful to society. I think a 251 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:46.639 lot of that's been going on. Medical changes. They reportedly 252 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:50.799 claim that healthcare would become prohibitively expensive, especially for the 253 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:54.360 elderly and tied to employment status. He also mentioned that 254 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:58.559 the intention the intentional introduction of new difficult to diagnose 255 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:03.480 in untreatable diseases. Additionally, he suggested that cancer cures already 256 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.559 existed in nineteen sixty nine, but war being withheld. With 257 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:11.640 the information stored at the Rockefeller Institute, a lot of 258 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.200 big name drops sometimes that makes people suspicious as well. 259 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:21.000 Societal shifts. The Electure support supposedly included plans to destabilize 260 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:25.559 traditional structures like marriage and religion. Homosexuality would be normalized 261 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:28.359 and promoted, sex education would be used to influence youth. 262 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:31.519 The Early Day allegedly said people would be conditioned to 263 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:36.599 accept constant change as normal, making societal norms fluid and impermanent. 264 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:41.839 Surveillance and technology Day is said to have foreseen a 265 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.000 world where television would monitor viewers even when turned off, 266 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.839 and a single banking system would eliminate physical money with 267 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:54.000 all transactions tracked electronically, and cultural and behavioral manipulation. Fashion 268 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:57.119 would become more provocative. Media would push sex and violence 269 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:01.319 to desensitize people. Terrorism would increase globe creating fear and 270 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:09.599 justifying control measures. Well, well, I'll be now again. I 271 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:11.119 want to bring I want to bring this up to 272 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.359 Jay Dyer. I was expecting him here seven minutes ago. 273 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:19.319 Thankfully I had a lot of a lot of cushion 274 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:24.640 up front to work with. But again, when we look 275 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.119 at the published writings, the published works of someone like 276 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:32.200 Alvis Huxley, he got it pretty good too. Makes you 277 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:35.240 wonder if there is a game plan, if there always 278 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:37.640 has been. And as it turns out, a lot of 279 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.039 these people are publishing these things along the way, and 280 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:46.480 it's almost like their own little cheerleading. They cheerlead each other. 281 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.480 So we're going to be able to do a little 282 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:51.039 bit more of this. When Jay comes back, I'm just 283 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:52.720 gonna go check on him, to be honest, And in 284 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.279 the meantime, I'm going to leave you with a very 285 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.920 short break that I was going to save for the intermission. 286 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:03.160 But yeah, this one is for my pillow, and go 287 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.839 check it out. Bad Lands is the promo code, and 288 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.200 we will reb right back in a second. Don't go anywhere. 289 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.240 Well, the products you all wish my pillow carried, well, 290 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:24.000 guess what we probably do. 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But until he shows up, 332 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.319 we're just going to go right to the calls. Nine 333 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.720 one four two hundred two sixty nine, give me a 334 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:59.119 buzz nine one four, two hundred two sixty nine, And 335 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.000 you're coming on the air with us, and I just 336 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:02.759 want to hear what's going on with you, how you're 337 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.200 seeing things out there. And the other thing there too 338 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:08.079 that we can talk about is, of course the content 339 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:13.000 the table of contents for j and his in his book, 340 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:15.759 which I think is great because there's a couple of 341 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:17.400 things in here that I'd really love to talk to 342 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.599 him about, a couple of titles in here I really 343 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:20.960 love to talk to him about. He's got an entire 344 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:25.039 section on Christopher Nolan. One in particular I wanted to 345 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:29.000 bring up was The Prestige, one of my favorite films 346 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:33.599 really is, and again and again, what is pulled from 347 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:36.799 all this? What is pulled from all this? There's also 348 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:41.000 somebody out there. His name is Tim, and he sent 349 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.000 in a couple of these PSAs, these old school PSAs, 350 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:46.640 and wanted to know if Jay. But I was also 351 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:49.559 thinking that this would be a great, a great bit 352 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:54.480 for Mike Baldwin tomorrow night, if these old television PSAs 353 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:59.160 were worthwhile for America's health, if they actually did anything 354 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.640 at all. Did you guys, ever, do you guys remember this, 355 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:07.279 this myth, this p s A for methanmphetamine. I don't 356 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.799 remember it. I remember the the eggs frying on the 357 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:14.000 the frying on the frying pan. I remember a few 358 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.880 other let's see here. I remember all the out the 359 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.640 marijuana ones. Those are great. Take a look at the 360 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:26.200 meth commercial. Look at me, busy as a bee. Where'd 361 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:28.160 I get all this senergy? 362 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:28.680 Oh? 363 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:32.079 Man, I don't sleep. 364 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:36.240 I don't remember this. The cleanest house. 365 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:36.680 On the street. 366 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:38.519 This has got this. This has got to be like 367 00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.480 kids in the hall or something. Is this for real? 368 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.680 Because I thought I remembered all of these things. 369 00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:49.480 Get these hairs all out of my face, Get these 370 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.400 bugs all out of my place. 371 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:53.200 One more hit, no time. 372 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:54.279 Two Waist. 373 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.319 Office of the National Drug Policy partner with the Drug 374 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.799 free America. I'd see. I can see that being true. 375 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:08.279 Like sometimes we're just abrasive with the messaging in the nineties, 376 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:12.319 and that looks like a nineteen ninety four kind of 377 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.240 a feel right there. Here's the other one, and I 378 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:17.240 can't wait to show these to Mike Baldwin tomorrow. We'll 379 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:18.680 see the other ones that are out there. This is 380 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.160 uh I remember this one. I learned it by watching you. Dad. 381 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:27.160 You want to talk about cultural norms and messaging. 382 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:35.119 Yours? 383 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.079 No, I must have had you found it in your closet. 384 00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:40.880 I don't know when a guide was lost of what 385 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:43.039 look that it's now? 386 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:43.680 Did you get it? 387 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:47.480 Got to answer me? Who taught you how to do 388 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:48.039 this stuff? 389 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:49.880 You are right? 390 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:52.599 I learned it by watching you. 391 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:53.960 What are you talking about? 392 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.319 Use drugs? Have children who use drugs? Well? 393 00:24:57.359 --> 00:24:58.799 Wait a second, I want to look inside of this 394 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.759 box here? Okay, what's in there? 395 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:04.319 See? 396 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:06.480 How could how would you see? The thing that's funny 397 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:11.759 to me is how would the father be surprised? He's 398 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.599 obviously he didn't know that his son is watching him 399 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.960 roll joints? Or is there something else in there? And 400 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:21.000 if it's more than that, then was he really doing 401 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.240 it in front of the kid the whole time. It's you, 402 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:25.480 all right. I can imagine that being for like your 403 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:30.119 curse words. I heard you, I heard I heard Dad 404 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:34.680 use that language. I heard I saw Dad use the marijuana. Anyway, 405 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:39.000 these are something that I actually liked back then. I 406 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:41.079 think it's better than the drug wars that we used 407 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.480 that we still run and we still wage. I like 408 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:49.519 the messaging that it's fun. It creates conversation, it creates 409 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.480 memes for years and years to come, and of course 410 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.279 it doesn't empower the cartels, which is what it usually 411 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.400 usually what happens at the end of some of these 412 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:02.119 uh these drug wars. Here but here we go. Now 413 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.640 we're back on track, ladies and gentlemen, so we can 414 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.920 joining us right now for the first time since I 415 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.640 think December. Author comedian host of The Alex Jones Show's 416 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.240 Fourth Hour, Jay Dyer Jason Aalysis, how are you, sir. 417 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:17.839 Good man? Glad to be back with you. 418 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:18.440 It's great. 419 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:19.880 I lost the link. 420 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.359 I had a flood of muscage messages on Twitter and 421 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.200 I had to go and find where it was. 422 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.839 Damn. So I'm sorry. Well, I should have kicked it 423 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.319 up to the top or something. Anyway, Well, it's good 424 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:31.319 to have you on. You've been very busy lately. It's 425 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:33.920 always great to see you do well. And not only that, 426 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:37.839 but you have Esoteric Hollywood Part one and two books 427 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:39.720 that I own. But it is soon going to be 428 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.559 become a trilogy. When has part three officially come out? 429 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:44.960 Well, we don't have a sad date. Yeah, but I 430 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:46.680 mean it's going to be in the next couple of months, 431 00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:47.920 so it's gonna be soon. 432 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.279 It's on pre order on Amazon, though, right because I 433 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:51.640 saw that. 434 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:53.240 Oh I didn't even know that. 435 00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:55.480 Well, then maybe I saw the wrong thing. 436 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:58.319 But well, it may be on there pre order, but 437 00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.240 don't pre order from Amazon. Pre order from the website when. 438 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.119 I get that up there, Okay, sounds good. 439 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.160 Well any way, otherwise you're just giving money to Jeff Bezos. 440 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.839 Right right. Ultimately you know more about my book. 441 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:10.279 Than I do, so. 442 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.119 At this point I do. But we'll see because I 443 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.400 have a table of contents that you sent me and 444 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:17.839 I want to talk to you about that in a bit. 445 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.599 But first I before you were you came in, I 446 00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.720 was reading a little bit about the Richard Day tapes 447 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.960 again and somebody had brought it up in a chat 448 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.119 room for a stream I was doing earlier on in 449 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.039 the week, and they suggested I talked to you about it, 450 00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:33.319 and they jogged my memory because I remember you bringing 451 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:38.640 these up. And unless I'm remembering wrong, what do you 452 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.119 know about the Richard Day tapes again? And are are 453 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.279 they real? Because I know, like for for things like this, 454 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.000 there's a lot of people who say yay, they say nay, 455 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:49.839 what it's your take on the whole thing. 456 00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:54.200 I think they're real because I did go and verify 457 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.720 that that guy really was the head of Planned Parenthood 458 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.759 back at the time. Everything in those lectures that was 459 00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:06.440 recorded by one of the participants in the event does 460 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.359 affirm pretty much what's happened in the world. So you know, 461 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.359 the last twenty thirty forty years lines up with maybe 462 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.000 not every single thing, but a lot of what was 463 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:18.839 in the Day tape. So I think that we could 464 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.119 surmise that it was a very accurate retelling and recounting 465 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.279 of what they had planned in terms of rocket Color 466 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:30.559 foundation and sort of reorganizing society in terms of depopulation, Malthusianism, 467 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.319 various you know, medical procedures. 468 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:35.960 Shall we say, yeah, all. 469 00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.920 Those things are mentioned as things that should be promoted planned, 470 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:43.559 and even things like social disintegration and pressure from above, 471 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.440 pressure from below, which are different strategies for causing kind 472 00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:50.119 of social chaos to you know, problem reaction solution bring 473 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:50.799 in the answer. 474 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:51.279 Well. 475 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.599 I remember we were talking about this a lot around 476 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:55.799 the time that we were doing Brave New World together, 477 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.400 and that's probably going to pomp up a couple of 478 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:01.799 times along the way with our talk tonight, because it's 479 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.119 one of those things where what I learned from you 480 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.559 when we came together to read the book and analyze 481 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.160 the book is that most people growing up when we 482 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.880 read either you know, nineteen eighty four or any of 483 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:18.480 George Orwell's stuff or Huxley, most people think it's a 484 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.200 warning about a future that could be from somebody who 485 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.759 actually wants to prevent it. And I learned it it 486 00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:28.319 was actually an apologetic and these are things that have 487 00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.759 been in many ways laid out in kind of creepy ways. 488 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.920 And even though, like I even mentioned the the Albert 489 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.440 Pike letters, there's a lot of discussion whether or not 490 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.319 those are real, whether or not they're real or it's 491 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:44.720 when you look at the chronology of four told events 492 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:49.440 of three World Wars. There's a lot that make you think, Yeah, 493 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:49.759 I mean, I. 494 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.039 Don't really put a whole lot of stock in those letters. 495 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.880 They seem to be a little much, you know. I 496 00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.759 think the dating is weird with the terminology, but even still, 497 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.160 I mean kind of what's in there, loosely speaking, kind 498 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.680 of matches up to I think what the technocrats have 499 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:10.440 planned for a global governance, for an integrated world federation, 500 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.200 you know, a socialist EU style structure that the rest 501 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.279 of the world would then have, and we're seeing right now, 502 00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.880 for example, in England. You know, Kure Starmer is an 503 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.000 open Fabian socialist. I've been talking about Fabian socialism for many, 504 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.440 many years, over a decade, and that's sort of what 505 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.240 they wanted to roll out in the EU and in 506 00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:32.920 the UK especially and then reintegrate and reorganize society on 507 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.559 that basis. I think that you know, what we're seeing 508 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.000 over there is kind of what they would like to 509 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.119 do in North America probably all the continents as well, 510 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.880 if they can get you know, all their agenda through. 511 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.799 Would anything in the Richard Day tapes fall under specific 512 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.000 operations that you listed in your your top ten, because 513 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.359 I would love to go through those soon. But since 514 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.599 this came up, I figure I just throw it into 515 00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:58.559 the mix to start us off. 516 00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:03.359 Said that again, do anything that was. 517 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.119 In the richer Day tapes does any of that operation? 518 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.160 Does that fall under any Does any of the stuff 519 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.640 in those tapes fall under any specific operation out of 520 00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:17.079 the ten for say, per se that you that you listed, 521 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.400 I listed, yeah, or it's just like sprays its just 522 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:22.519 let me my list out here, I got here. 523 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.480 I don't know that anything would be a direct necessary parallel, 524 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:33.480 except that the Rockefeller Foundation plays a key role in 525 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.839 the strand, the planning and strategies of the day you 526 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:41.160 know discussions and the origins of the CIA and the 527 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.400 USS do directly relate to the Rockefeller family and what 528 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.720 they pretty much funded and helped to establish. Dad Rockfeller 529 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.039 brags about that in his memoirs. For example, he himself, 530 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.319 by the way, he used to be an intelligence operative 531 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.680 in the Army when he was younger. So I would say, 532 00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:02.119 if anything, elements of MK Ultra I think played into 533 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.480 the Day tapes, because even though the day discussions were 534 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.079 not about mind control operators and that kind of stuff, 535 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.920 the research that was derived from a lot of the 536 00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.359 mk Ultra studies dealt with social engineering and social control, 537 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.640 so that could be one element of it. Paper Clip 538 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.359 is possible too, because of course paper Clip is nineteen 539 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.680 forty five to nineteen fifty nine, and that involved importing 540 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.279 a lot of the Tiny Mustache Men higher ups and 541 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.720 trying to, you know, derive a lot of their engineering 542 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.920 scientific knowledge for the US and for the West. And 543 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.079 so I would imagine a lot of the ideas about genetics, 544 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:45.759 genetic modification, breeding, breeding science, Malfusianism, dysgenics. Probably a lot 545 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:47.640 of that came from some of the paper Clip people, 546 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:53.960 and that would have overlapped with the day tapes and 547 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.279 maybe just loosely some of the others, but I think 548 00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.000 for the most part those would be the most relevant 549 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.559 to the day tapes. 550 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.519 Well, you brought up two out of the ten. Paper 551 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.880 Clip was that's been in the news recently with all 552 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.799 the Argentina stuff, that there might be a declassification of 553 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:14.359 some of Tiny Mustache Man's vacation plans. And then also 554 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:19.240 mk Ultra as well, we heard about remote also remote 555 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.400 viewing of the Arc of the Covenant, the CIA faking 556 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:26.839 alien abductions that's been published about again recently, and then 557 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:29.160 I saw you put out this top ten. I said, bingo, 558 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.640 so let's tie it all together, paper Clip, mk Ultra. 559 00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:34.640 What are the other eight I'd love to get through 560 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:35.160 some of those. 561 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.440 Yeah, I didn't put these in any definite order. They're 562 00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.519 just kind of the top ten that I picked out 563 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.640 of twenty that are declassified, so all twenty are pretty wild. 564 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:49.200 And then I tried to kind of just randomly pick 565 00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.440 the ones that I thought were the top ten, but 566 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.640 in no specific orders. So of course we have mk Ultra, 567 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.079 which is probably the most famous up there with perhaps 568 00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.400 paper Clip. And this is the dozens of universe cities, 569 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:08.880 dozens of academic institutions that were intent upon basically studying 570 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:11.320 the human psyche and mastering it and then sort of 571 00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:18.280 exporting that ideology into mass formation psychosis, you know, psychological engineering. 572 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.480 And we can find parallels, for example, with World War 573 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.000 two era psychological warfare theorists like Juice Merlo. We did 574 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.639 a lecture through his entire book. He was a World 575 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.320 War two psychological warfare excerpt for the Allies and he 576 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:38.880 wrote on that topic. There's also Operation Mockingbird from the 577 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.239 forties to the seventies, and this is of course the 578 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:46.280 CAA buying off journalists throughout the Cold War to make 579 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.440 sure that the journalists is about four or five hundred 580 00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:52.239 throughout the world. Would repeat the CIA line. That doesn't 581 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.360 mean that I think that Soviets were the good guys, 582 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:55.559 are the unpro communists. 583 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.360 But throughout that period you do have. 584 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.679 The subversion of journalism from the forties all the way 585 00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.480 to the seventies, and it was a pretty widespread program. 586 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.280 And I would say that even though this this program 587 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.440 Mockingbird end of the nineteen seventies, we have the same 588 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.119 analog to that with like Mockingbird two point zero, with 589 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.800 all of the you know, big players and big entities, 590 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.280 you know, shutting down social media, you know, censoring and 591 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.119 banning social media that kind of stuff. 592 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.599 What about what about Hollywood in itself, because of course 593 00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.199 news media being in every newsroom in the country and 594 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:35.159 that that's that's one thing. But when was it was it? Uh, 595 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:41.360 you know, we hear about Independence Day or Close Encounters 596 00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.320 the Third kind or anything else like that, where there 597 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.679 this is an era where when you start talking about 598 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.119 and putting movies out there about sensitive subjects, about whether 599 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.639 it be an extraterrestrial life or high technology or anything 600 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.360 like that. There's usually some sort of a government attasha 601 00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.280 that's there to to give you all of the ins 602 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.440 and outs to make it more believable, but to also 603 00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.679 not to give people too much. We heard about that. 604 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.280 When did that become from your research? A little bit more? 605 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.920 A little bit more, I don't know, I would say normal. 606 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.039 Well, one of the projects that would relate to that 607 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:25.079 would be projects Stargate, because even though Stargate is not 608 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.599 explicitly about aliens, the idea was that from nineteen seventy 609 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.039 eight to nineteen ninety five they would be studying the occult, 610 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:35.599 so it wasn't just remote viewing. They were studying all 611 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:40.679 kinds of different techniques. If you watch the movie Minister 612 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.559 at Goats, that's kind of based on this type of 613 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:49.000 project where the Army, the Central Research Institute, First Earth Battalion, 614 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.719 they were looking into all these different mentalism and psychic 615 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:58.199 abilities and telekinesis and remote viewing and astral projection and 616 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.639 possibly also things relating to LSD hallucinogens and if you 617 00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.440 combine that with Gateway Process, which was also declassified not 618 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.800 too long I think it's from the early eighties. This 619 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.760 talks about transittal meditation, it talks about biofeedback, biohacking, meditation 620 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.679 and so forth to achieve you know, these esoteric enlightened states, 621 00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:24.199 and could this be weaponized and could we create size spies? 622 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.719 And the Soviets even had their own size spy programs, 623 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.880 So there was kind of a mirror project going on 624 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.800 in the Cold War with the Soviets doing their size 625 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.800 spies and the West, the CIA, doing their size spies. 626 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.920 And I think that a lot of that, maybe even inadvertently, 627 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.360 does tie into like the UFO phenomenon, because a lot 628 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.079 of the people who would be doing these meditation sessions 629 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.039 and these LSD type studies and research or DMT the 630 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.440 float tanks, you know with John Z Lilly, they would 631 00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.679 think they were contacting beings and entities. So a lot 632 00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.440 of times they did, oh, this is the aliens, right, 633 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.480 So they would just to make a one to one 634 00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.599 assumption that the beings that they're contacting must be the 635 00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.719 same as the beings that are happening throughout the FOO 636 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.440 fighter UFO phenomena. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's 637 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.880 I mean, I think there is overlap, and I think 638 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:18.280 that the whole, the whole UFO phenomenon pretty much comes 639 00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.480 out of all this MK ultra research. 640 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:22.559 You know, they want to give they want to. 641 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:26.159 Give everybody a new ideology in the West and in 642 00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:27.559 the world, a new religion. 643 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.719 I guess we could just jump right there real quick. 644 00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.360 Then then perhaps we can go back to and it 645 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.280 doesn't have to be the ten that you picked. It 646 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.079 could be any of the crazy twenty, because I'd love 647 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:38.239 to hear a little bit more of this. Is that 648 00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:40.599 it's a review, but there's also some stuff I had 649 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.880 forgotten about or never heard about at all. But when 650 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.920 it comes to intelligence services in the space programs, a 651 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.320 lot of esoteric background. There no doubt paper Clip had 652 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.920 been brought up again, like I said with the Argentina News, 653 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.639 and of course paper Clip was the lifeblood of the 654 00:38:56.199 --> 00:39:01.039 space race. But when it comes to the NASA base 655 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.400 syop theories, they are a plenty. And I just wonder, 656 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.880 because you know, I never talked about this, but just 657 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.039 the nature of this to begin with, like the nature 658 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.920 of space in general, I don't know what your take 659 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:19.960 on the whole thing is. Have we even been to space, 660 00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:20.559 do you believe? 661 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.960 I mean, I would definitely think that there are satellites, 662 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.920 and probably there is the ability to go into low 663 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.239 Earth orbit. I'm pretty much a skeptic about a lot 664 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.880 of other stuff. I think NASA was in some way 665 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.440 a kind of affront to cover for Cold War stuff. 666 00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.840 But and probably they were erecting a lot of the 667 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.440 global spying infrastructure. As my view as to what they 668 00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.599 were doing in Cold War under the cover of NASA 669 00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:51.039 and space, I think they were setting up like the 670 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.440 Star Wars Defense Initiative and that kind of stuff. But 671 00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.800 but I mean beyond that, I don't really I mean, 672 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.400 I think a lot of the space stuff was just 673 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.199 Cold War propaganda. I don't have any set opinions on 674 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.239 the structure of the universe or how it works or 675 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.320 what's really going I have no idea what's really going 676 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.400 on out there, So I'm an agnostic skeptic on those 677 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.719 kinds of questions. But I do think that there's a 678 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:19.480 pretty deep rabbit hole that you can go down when 679 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.000 it comes to you know, NASA during the Cold War 680 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.920 and how well it functioned as a kind of a 681 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.840 propaganda tool. But as to how advanced these space tech 682 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.000 really is, I have no idea. 683 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.400 What do you think about other things like you may 684 00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:36.960 have not even dipped in into this at all, but 685 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.440 it's very hard to miss these things if you're spending 686 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.119 any considerable amount of time on the Internet. But things 687 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.719 like the Challenger disaster in nineteen eighty six, there's a 688 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.360 really compelling theory that a lot of those astronauts, if 689 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:49.760 not all of them, are still alive and have been 690 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:54.760 under assumed identities as teachers and whatever since then. I 691 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:57.760 see the pictures, the side by sides. I don't know 692 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.679 if they're real, but they're of course, like on everything, 693 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.800 there's a split. And given all of the NASA based 694 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.199 psyop theories that are out there, that was one of 695 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.360 the one that was one of the really compelling ones 696 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.000 that I always want to know a little bit more about. 697 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.800 I didn't know if that was something that ever tickled 698 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:15.320 your fancy. 699 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.239 I'm familiar with this theory in this analysis, I don't 700 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.800 know a whole lot about what the truth is. I mean, 701 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:32.800 I could see large scale kind of deception at that level. 702 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:34.760 And one of the next programs I was going to 703 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:40.440 mention actually does include large scale deception, and that's Operation 704 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.000 north Woods, which was a nineteen sixty two program that 705 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.000 would stage a giant fake flag event. It included fake 706 00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:53.079 news stories to go along with the event. It included drones, 707 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:56.199 it included an airplane full of dead bodies, and this 708 00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:01.400 is going to be a fake trr our event blamed 709 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:06.079 on Cuba. And it was signed off by LL Linitzer, 710 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.480 who was formerly the Joint Chieve Staff I think under 711 00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.800 Kennedy and then he was also the Supreme Allied Commander 712 00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:13.239 of NATO. 713 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.280 But that's a big one. 714 00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.920 Yeah, he was the one proposing north Woods. They didn't 715 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.000 actually go with it, but what it shows us is 716 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:29.000 that they've had these large scale style ops and psyops 717 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.760 for a while a long time that you know, and 718 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.719 this is just kind of basic military deception techniques. So 719 00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.239 it's possible. I don't know what the motive or the 720 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:47.079 advantage would be to staging the shuttle blowing up event. 721 00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:53.119 I would be interested to know what the what they 722 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.639 gained from that if it was a outside the realm 723 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.760 of possibility, given the fact that north Woods exists. 724 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.960 For sure, And perhaps when we open up the lines 725 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.119 for calls later on, we'll see if something comes through 726 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.760 and I'll uh, I'll let you know what comes in 727 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.000 it that because that'd be interesting so north Woods, let's 728 00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.960 do two more, because I'd love to if there's anything 729 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.480 in there that's obscure but really interesting that people should 730 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:18.880 know about, that'd be awesome because then I want to 731 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.199 move on to some of the stuff that's in esoteric 732 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.079 Hollywood three, because there's a lot of overlap between these 733 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.559 intelligence services and the messaging that's going out to common 734 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.559 viewing audiences, so that this is going to be a 735 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:38.199 good one. Oh do you want to do two more? 736 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:39.639 You cut out? I'm sorry? 737 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:40.719 What was Oh? 738 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.440 I'm sorry? No, I said after we to do two 739 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.800 more of these? Uh, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, and then 740 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:48.000 we'll go into Hollywood three. 741 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:48.679 Yeah. 742 00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.320 I was just pulling up my list of the I 743 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.480 don't even remember all the contents, and there's somehow I 744 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.599 got to pull up the table of contest to remember it. 745 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.159 But so let's say we did Northwood's. Next would be 746 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:01.119 paper Cliff. 747 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:02.159 We did that. 748 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.400 Next one is we did Stargate. 749 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.159 I mentioned that, so you know what Jay with Stargate 750 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.239 with Stargate because you and I did a lot on Gladio. 751 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.400 But I want to ask you about some psychological stuff. 752 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:18.960 I know that in the past when you were on 753 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.559 the show you had mentioned that in you know, earlier 754 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.280 on in life you had you have done some psychedelics. 755 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.360 Is that that's true, right? You said that, right? 756 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.199 Yeah, Well I was a teenager, right exactly so. 757 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:33.239 And now obviously you your your life has taken you 758 00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.079 into so many different places, and you are a leading 759 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:40.880 voice online for Orthodox Christianity, and and I really appreciate 760 00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.199 all of you know, everything you tie together. I think 761 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.960 it's really interesting that you have that background of that 762 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.800 that type of experience. Do you look at any of 763 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:56.280 those experiences, having you know, done those you know, taking 764 00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.440 hallucinogens in the past, is there anything that ever hinted 765 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.719 at you that this was more than just a trick 766 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.920 of the mind or is there a spiritual element to things? 767 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.320 Do you feel that you were in that state opened 768 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.599 up or maybe vulnerable to something other than just what 769 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.960 the mind produces under the influence of psilocybin or something 770 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.239 else like that, or is there actually a spiritual element 771 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.480 to these substances? 772 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:24.079 Right? 773 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.079 Well, Stargate was the one I mentioned about remote viewing, 774 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.360 so you know, it kind of overlaps with a lot 775 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.599 of the stuff that mk LTRA was interested in, including 776 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.199 the research into the entheagens and the hallucinogens, and yeah, 777 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.039 my own experience, I had a bad trip the first 778 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.800 time I did it, and I felt like that was 779 00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.880 definitely demonic looking back on it. There was communication with 780 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.119 some kind of being an entity that was just a 781 00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:47.800 point of light. 782 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:50.559 And that was when I was about. 783 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.599 Seventeen or eighteen, and I did acid maybe four or 784 00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:57.920 five more times after that. So that was pretty much 785 00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.639 the extent of my hallucinogen trials so speak. I mean, 786 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.280 it wasn't trials. We're just idiot teenagers partying, so but 787 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.480 you know, I'm liking it too, like an mk ultra 788 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:12.719 type experiment. But the other experiences weren't bad trips. They 789 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.280 were just kind of goofy silly times. But the first 790 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.679 time was definitely a bad trip. And I do think 791 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:22.599 that you can't have those opening up experiences where you 792 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.320 do experience something like that. I would not recommend that. 793 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.960 In fact, I've always been opposed to those things ever since, 794 00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.239 you know, my youth coming out of that stuff. So 795 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:35.039 I've never gone back and done any illucinogen's never had 796 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.239 the desire to do it. I think it's really dangerous 797 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.199 something something that people shouldn't play with. But that's a 798 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:44.760 pretty common type of experience with d MT, with these 799 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:48.119 various you know, high powered tollucinogens. People you know, go 800 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.320 out of body and they see the d MT clockwork 801 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.760 elves and they see the you know, the gods and 802 00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.840 the beings and the entities. And the thing about that 803 00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:01.119 is that they usually tell people a false message. You know, 804 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.440 they usually say something like, we're here to help you. 805 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:06.519 If you, you know, listen to us, we can solve 806 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.519 earths problems. You got to depopulate, you need a world government, 807 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.920 you got to have a New Age religion. So you 808 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.119 get the same kind of demonic I would say influence, 809 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.960 and I don't I don't see how you could explain 810 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.840 it or why that would be there if there wasn't 811 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:26.760 a spiritual basis underlying these phenomena these experiences. 812 00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.519 Yeah, and it's become very it's a very very important 813 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:36.760 cultural point too when it comes to especially movies. Obviously, well, 814 00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.039 you can read all you want about MK Ultra. I mean, 815 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.239 there's a little bit more on Charles Manson that's been 816 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.599 coming out lately, some threads that have been put out 817 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:48.239 that I think were really interesting, and how much control 818 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:52.039 was there? What what's the what was the whitey Bulger? 819 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:53.679 We were learning a lot about these. 820 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.320 Yeah, he was part of m culture in prison. 821 00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:59.159 Yeah, exactly. And there's so much of this here too. 822 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.960 It be mind control or whether it be just using 823 00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:07.039 these substances to to break a person and to help 824 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.719 make them disassociate in some way that can. So I 825 00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.559 just thought that is really an interesting background for somebody 826 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.440 like you where you are right now, to have had 827 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.280 those experiences so early on, and I just never asked 828 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.360 you what you concluded from them, whether it was just 829 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.519 a goofy time or if you thought that, no, there 830 00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:28.800 there was a doorway that you can that you can 831 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.840 access through this and it's probably one to stay away 832 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:32.480 from if you can. 833 00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.719 But yeah, that's that's what you know, opening that third 834 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.000 eye or you know what what the occult or the yoga, 835 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.400 the kundalini, all that kind of stuff I think is 836 00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:46.000 hitting at similar things, and it's not necessarily a good thing. 837 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.880 I don't I don't think you should do that kind 838 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.119 of stuff. I think the people who are you know, 839 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.440 in saying the Orthodox Church, yet people are spiritually advanced 840 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.639 and they have, you know, experiences of experiencing God directly. 841 00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.920 I guess you could say that kind of stuff that's 842 00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.599 kind of when you're at an advanced spiritual state, you 843 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.920 don't try to induce it through shortcut means of drugs 844 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.880 and stuff. So that's that's what I think I learned 845 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.440 as I've gotten older, is that a lot of that thing, 846 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.719 a lot of that stuff that dupes young people is 847 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:19.199 they think they're kind of going to kind of get 848 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:23.599 like a shortcut to spiritual enlightenment through these kinds of substances, 849 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.079 a lot of the you know, psychedelic bros. And that 850 00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.320 sphere of stuff, and I really think it's all just 851 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.599 kind of a delusion, and it's also dangerous, you know, 852 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.760 opening up yourself to spiritual forces and deception. 853 00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:37.760 Well, this is why I wanted to talk to you 854 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.360 about at least two off the bat movies that you 855 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:46.239 have listed in the table of contents for Hollywood Esoteric 856 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:49.599 Hollywood three, and both of them are Christopher Nolan films. 857 00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.960 And one of my favorites is The Prestige. We'll get 858 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.039 to that in just a second. But the other one 859 00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.800 that I well, the second one was actually not the 860 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:04.360 Christopher Nolan film. It was the Fountain. Yeah, and this now, 861 00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.719 I'm glad you have this on your list. A friend 862 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.519 of mine suggested this movie to me years ago. Got 863 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.199 Hugh Jackman Rachel Weiss in it, and it combines themes 864 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:17.639 of immortality, these two souls bonded through multiple lifetimes. But 865 00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:20.039 on a simpler level, it's more there's a lot of 866 00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:24.079 about acceptance of loss, soaking up relatively short time you 867 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.519 have with people you love and all that. But it's 868 00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:31.079 bitterly sad, but at the same time it's gorgeous. And 869 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.039 I'm just I'm curious to you about what came through 870 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.840 to you on this one, because it is like a one. 871 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:41.119 It is one big trip, and I there's things that 872 00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.039 make me unsettled about it, and I just want to 873 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.000 see what you articulate first on that one. 874 00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:47.320 Yeah, it's an interesting movie. 875 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:53.280 It's Darren Aronofsky, who is kind of admittedly somewhat of 876 00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:57.320 a cobbylist. You know, I think amongst directors, you have 877 00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.199 a handful of directors that are kind of well own 878 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:05.960 that are pretty openly esoteric, occultic type practitioner followers, believers. 879 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.360 You've got ari astor to some degree. Who did you 880 00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.360 know Midsommar and Hereditary. You've got Darren Aronofsky who's into Kabbala. 881 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:19.159 He did Pie Noah black Swan, and then he did 882 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.960 The Fountain, and there's a couple others like Robert Eggers 883 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:26.039 that did The Witch and no Saratu, and they're all 884 00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:29.599 pretty openly interested in the occult. But I think that 885 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:38.639 in this film he's tying Native American mythology Aztec Inca 886 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.119 Mia mythology into the idea of the tree of life 887 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.719 in the garden, and it's combined with Buddhist philosophy and thought, 888 00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:53.480 and it's combined with reincarnation, perhaps from the Kabbala or 889 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.320 from Eastern mysticism. It's hard to say, but I think 890 00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.800 all of those kind of are wrapped up in this 891 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:03.880 idea that your soulmate perhaps is what completes you, and 892 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.159 that you're going to go through these life cycles until 893 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:10.119 you find that complement to your personality and to who 894 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:12.320 you are, and then that's what helps you to achieve 895 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.760 the sort of nirvana state or whatever it is. But 896 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.960 I did like the way that the film, just on 897 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.519 a cinematic level and in a symbolic way, the way 898 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.239 it's done, I think it's an interesting film, so that's 899 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:27.400 why I included it in the analysis, was that there's 900 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.559 not a whole lot of films that have, you know, 901 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:33.639 philosophical symbolical depth, so it needed to be in there. 902 00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:37.440 And it's from a couplistic director, so that's why I 903 00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:38.119 put the film there. 904 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.599 You know, I when it comes to move like that, 905 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.119 and I like it. It's one of those movies where 906 00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.039 I think it's one of those things I would watch 907 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.960 maybe once every ten years, because it's just it takes 908 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.480 a lot out of you, especially with the sick wife, 909 00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:54.000 and there's just so many things happening there. But I 910 00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:57.639 think the thing that really makes me uncomfortable is the 911 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.840 depiction of space, the space in between worlds or what 912 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.960 comes after death or in this case, what comes in 913 00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.280 between lives, and it's always so it makes me feel 914 00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:13.719 so it's surreal, and it's isolating in that surreal feeling 915 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.159 as well, it's almost like it almost like it's a 916 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.880 form of hell in and of itself because you're always alone. 917 00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.360 The main character is always alone, he's always struggling through something. 918 00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:26.760 There's nobody there, Whereas at the end of a movie 919 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.880 like Ghost with Patrick Swayzey. You know, there's that you 920 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.599 get that swell of emotion and acceptance at the end, 921 00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:36.440 no doubt, but you see Patrick Swayzey, he goes to 922 00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:40.079 heaven and you're left with the assurances that, all right, 923 00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:42.920 yeah this stings, but you're gonna see him again. But 924 00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.599 movies like The Fountain, it just the suggestion that we're 925 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:50.920 just going to be lost in a bewildering, bewildering feedback 926 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:55.079 loop of soul recycling. It makes my stomach just sink 927 00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:57.519 into my shoes and that's where I walk away from. 928 00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:01.000 Maybe some people see it differently, but that's it's a trip. 929 00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:03.079 That's why the first thing I thought about was this 930 00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:06.119 movie when we were talking about LSD. 931 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:14.159 Yeah, I've never seen any really convincing argumentation for reincarnation. 932 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.480 I always thought it to be kind of a silly position. 933 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.239 I mean, where are we getting the new souls from 934 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.639 if everything's just kind of being recycled. It kind of 935 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.119 doesn't make sense. But yeah, I mean it's an ancient, 936 00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:27.719 you know, Hindu sort of pagan view and it ties 937 00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:32.159 into pantheism and these kind of you know and ultimately 938 00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.880 called animistic animistic doctrines. 939 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.679 So Yeah, it's it's an interesting film. 940 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:41.440 I mean, I like you, I might rewatch it every 941 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:43.800 ten years or so, but I mean I think there's 942 00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:46.760 some other, you know, really fascinating films in there. 943 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.000 What's another one you wanted. 944 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.039 To talk about? The Prestige, Yeah, that one of my 945 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:53.519 ahead No, I was that this is one of my 946 00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:57.039 favorites right here. So I want to know what comes 947 00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.199 through with you, because there's there's a lot that I 948 00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:02.599 can pick from you. These two obsessive, competing magicians that 949 00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:05.159 are willing to throw it all away to destroy each 950 00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:09.840 other personally or whatever. Professionally, you got these little hits 951 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:13.320 of high science. David Bowie as Nikola Tesla was perfect. 952 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.280 Then of course there's all these ethical dilemmas, but there's 953 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:21.000 it's psychological too, because everything is an illusion. They as 954 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.960 Hugh Jackman says in that movie as well about Borden, 955 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.039 he lives his act. So you don't know who's getting 956 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.679 gas lit and you don't know what's happening there. And uh, 957 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:32.400 I'm just curious what your biggest nuggets you took away 958 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:33.039 from that one is. 959 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.840 I did a pretty lengthy, pretty deep analysis and it 960 00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.000 was written some years backside to kind of rewrite some 961 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:47.199 of it. But yeah, the first I don't know, one, two, three, four, five, 962 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.920 the first six chapters of my book, which the chapters 963 00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:52.519 have got short, so I don't know. It's like the 964 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:57.119 first thirty forty pages of the third book deals with 965 00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.440 Nolan films, and I think that, you know, No One 966 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.320 was really at his peak in the two thousands. 967 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:05.280 I don't think that. 968 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.280 The more recent No. One films have been very good. 969 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.719 I'm not a huge fan of Oppenheimer, but I do 970 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.039 think that Inception Interstellar were good. A lot of people 971 00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:16.199 don't like Interstellar. Batman Tulogy was good, and I think 972 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:19.400 the Prestige was really good. And it's operating, I think, 973 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.639 on multiple levels. So on one level, it's telling us 974 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:25.079 the story, as you mentioned about these magicians that are competing, 975 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.880 and I'm sure everybody's perhaps seen it, so I'm not 976 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.880 going to be spoiling anything if I talk about how 977 00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.199 the twist the reveal. You know, it says this three 978 00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:37.039 stage process to it, and the reveal is, of course, 979 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:41.159 the that they were twin brothers. Right, so this whole 980 00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.480 time there was two of them. You never really knew 981 00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.760 that or realized that, but they were so devoted to 982 00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.679 their craft that they both lived their whole lives hiding 983 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:51.280 the secret of their being twin brothers. 984 00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.320 And the Tesla stuff is weird is kind. 985 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.880 Of thrown in there as an odd side thing, but 986 00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.679 it's also kind of clue because the idea in the 987 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:05.920 Tesla tech stuff played by David Bowie of Ball People, 988 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.199 is that somehow there's cloning. So it's like the Tesla 989 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:16.320 teleportation electromagnetic field disturbance free energy stuff that Tesla is 990 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.800 doing somehow is like causing multiple people if you try 991 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.760 to teleport or whatever, then you get like two, three, 992 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:27.239 four twenty David Bowies. So it's like, on the one hand, 993 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:32.079 it's playing with the reality of technology getting us to 994 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.480 this almost godlike status at the same time as the 995 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:41.719 magicians doing this sort of stage routine that's a deception 996 00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.519 and the real science is sort of hidden from everybody. 997 00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.800 Everybody's following and playing attention to the magicians, and you've 998 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:52.280 got this, you know, almost godlike magic that's real magic 999 00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:53.679 from the Tesla tech in the film. 1000 00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:54.920 So there's a lot of different weird. 1001 00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.159 Layers and things going on as to how realistic or 1002 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.840 exactly what is going on with Tesla. Oh, that's clouded 1003 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:06.039 in mythology. Now it's hard to determine exactly, you know, 1004 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.360 what Tesla was up to and what's authentically fully his 1005 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:11.519 and whether the Navy's. 1006 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:12.360 You know, shut all this down. 1007 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.239 I mean, obviously we know that wireless stuff comes from Tesla, 1008 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:18.719 and we wouldn't have the Internet without Tesla. And but 1009 00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:20.159 is did he create free energy? 1010 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:20.679 I don't know. 1011 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.599 Maybe did he create cloning from multiverse entities? 1012 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.079 And being about that, But. 1013 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:32.679 My main analysis focuses on the way that humans in 1014 00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.119 the audiences perceive things in the stage show and in 1015 00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:40.320 the film, and how the state, the establishment, the corporate 1016 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:45.280 media does the same thing to us. We're viewing the 1017 00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:51.800 magic show and the script writers, like the intelligence agencies 1018 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:55.880 and you know, the powers that be, the oligarchs, they're 1019 00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:59.199 sort of writing the script and doing the three stage 1020 00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:00.840 model the film to us. 1021 00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:06.159 And to be honest, I think that is That's what 1022 00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:09.719 a lot of people would say the purpose of staging 1023 00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:14.639 something like a Challenger disaster would be because it's you know, 1024 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.400 all eyes are in the sky. It's emotional, it reaffirmed, 1025 00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:21.679 you know, it makes you wonder, Okay, well, are we 1026 00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.079 just going to give up when we hit us a 1027 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:26.679 bump in the road, or are we going to continue 1028 00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:29.920 on in conquer space? You know, it's what they would 1029 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.360 want to do, you know, creating new heroes all that. 1030 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:35.639 But it's perfectly said, because of course we're this. I 1031 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:39.800 think this takes place around the very last years of 1032 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:46.199 the nineteenth century, and it's obviously there's no television or 1033 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:48.880 just a couple of decades before radio started becoming a 1034 00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:52.360 little bit more a little bit more accessible to people, 1035 00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:55.920 and it's just the night at the theater and how 1036 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.320 are people how's it being advertised in the papers? And 1037 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.599 it's it's a great thing that, you know, speaking of 1038 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.719 the last days of the nineteenth century. Have you done 1039 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.960 a breakdown on the Sherlock Holmes the Robert Downey Junior 1040 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:10.039 Shirlock Holmes movies. 1041 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:14.679 I did a video on that many years ago. I 1042 01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:16.440 think the video is still on my channel. So there 1043 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:19.280 is a video about It's about twelve or thirteen minute 1044 01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:24.119 esoteric analysis of the the first Sharlock Holmes. There's sort 1045 01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.519 of a Lord Blackwood character that's based on Crowley, and 1046 01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:32.039 he's trying to bring in this magical aon at the 1047 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:34.920 end of time. He's going to be this god figure 1048 01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.599 in the quasi Masonic secret society that he works with, 1049 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:40.599 is right, He's got them all duped into believing that 1050 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:43.760 he has these magical powers, very similar to kind of 1051 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:46.159 the theme of the Prestige. And of course, you know 1052 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:51.840 Sherlock undermines all that and uses science to disseminate or 1053 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:55.480 too me to destroy the disinformation that Lord Blackwood is 1054 01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:59.119 engaging in. And Part two is also interesting because it's 1055 01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:04.039 about the powers that be sort of causing World War 1056 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.280 One and funding both sides, with Moriarty sort of being 1057 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:11.480 this figure he's tied into the arms factories that are 1058 01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:14.880 funding both sides of World War One and the assassination 1059 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:19.039 of Franz Ferdinand to kick off the war. So I 1060 01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:22.079 enjoyed both of those. Other were well made, and Guy 1061 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.800 Ritchie is a good directory. He makes pretty good films overall. 1062 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:27.079 But I do think the first one was the most 1063 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.440 sort of esoteric and a lot of references to you know, 1064 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:36.320 Crowleyan type colts going on. But I didn't include that 1065 01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.119 in this book, but it is on my channel as 1066 01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:39.760 an analysis. 1067 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:41.599 Yeah, those are great. Those are great, and for all 1068 01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.840 those reasons, it's kind of chilling in the second one 1069 01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:47.400 when they're all in the artillery yard or wherever the 1070 01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:49.400 hell it was, and you start realizing that this is 1071 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.440 this is a building up toward World War One. They're 1072 01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.039 just on the opposite side of nineteen hundred or whatever 1073 01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:59.760 the hell it is. And it's pretty crazy almost, you know, 1074 01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:04.239 you almost be like tipping your cap to when they 1075 01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:06.800 did when they brought Daniel Craig on to be Double 1076 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.480 O seven and when they did Casino Royale and he's 1077 01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.280 getting a little bit of a debrief with by Moneypenny 1078 01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.239 by Am over there at right when they're still in 1079 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.320 the Bahamas, and she was talking about what was going 1080 01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.480 on with the the air bus that was going to 1081 01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:25.159 be blown up because Leschief had shorted all the airline 1082 01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:28.679 stocks with the terrorist money, and she actually referenced to 1083 01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.280 the shorting of stocks the night before nine to eleven. 1084 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:34.639 I said, holy shit, I mean that's that even back then. 1085 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.159 I said, that's pretty bold right there, because yeah, these 1086 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.079 are these are these are big, uh, these are big 1087 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.639 rolls of the dice that we see happening throughout history 1088 01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.599 that most people are just told, oh that's nothing, it's 1089 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:46.960 just it happens. 1090 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.440 Yeah, I think the screenwriters pretty much of most of 1091 01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.400 the Bond films are pretty aware of what's going on 1092 01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.800 because they have almost always laced the films and the 1093 01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:02.440 narratives with real events and real things and real quote conspiracies. 1094 01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:06.400 That's one of the many examples. I think in my 1095 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:08.679 first book, I did quite a bit of Bond that 1096 01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.079 there's about sixty seventy pages of Bond stuff in my 1097 01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.079 first esoteric Hollywood book. And now of course goes back 1098 01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:16.960 to you know, Ian Fleming being naval intelligence and for 1099 01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:22.400 the British and then British Intelligence basically putting a lot 1100 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:26.760 of his own personal experience into those stories, describing what 1101 01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.880 he had seen, but fictionalizing it and making it somewhat 1102 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.760 propaganda as well. So I'm not saying that the Bond 1103 01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:34.719 stories tell you everything, but you do get you know, 1104 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.679 like Hugo Drax and these sorts of characters that are 1105 01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:41.639 you know, kind of like Bill Gates or Epstein type 1106 01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:44.079 characters who you know, they want to depopulate everybody, They 1107 01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:46.760 want to create their own new human race. They want 1108 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:48.920 to be the God Adam figure to a new race. 1109 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.400 You know, if you watch Moon Raker for example, and 1110 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.760 then we see you know, in reality, you have people 1111 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:55.440 that are really like that, they really want to do that. 1112 01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:58.000 So there's a lot of truth in those stories and 1113 01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:02.960 in those films. But for this one, spy wise, I 1114 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.880 did include a pretty significant espionage section. And this time 1115 01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:12.760 I went with all of the tom Cruise Mission Impossible films, 1116 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.480 so I did an analysis of all of them. It's 1117 01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.079 towards the end, it's maybe, I don't know, a ten 1118 01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:20.199 fifteen page analysis of all those. I did the Saint, 1119 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:21.880 which I think is a nineties class that you know, 1120 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.519 the bal Kilmer Churs Balkimer just passed away, but Elizabeth 1121 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:27.239 Shuvalkilmer in The Saint. I really enjoyed the nineteen ninety 1122 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:29.840 seven version of that, and that is a lot of 1123 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.480 esoteric alchemical stuff. And and he's Simon Templar. He's named 1124 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:38.360 after the Gnostic, you know, Magas in the Book of Acts. 1125 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.679 So there's a lot going on espionage wise in Esther 1126 01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:43.960 Hollywood three as well. 1127 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:47.800 But what about the Total Recall. I see nineteen, I 1128 01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.840 see the nineteen ninety Total I never saw the the remake, 1129 01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.719 but total Recall. I can just imagine where that all goes, given, 1130 01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:01.320 you know, implanted memories of you know, being able to 1131 01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.760 go somewhere and have a memory of vacation implanted into 1132 01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:07.360 your mind, and then to show up at the memory 1133 01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:11.559 bank and actually have a suppressed memory come forward that 1134 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.119 you actually were on Mars and and then I mean, Manny, 1135 01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.559 it goes into the deep of the deep ends after that. 1136 01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:19.559 I love that movie. 1137 01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:25.800 Yeah, I did watch the new one, and I actually 1138 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.039 wrote back when it came out, the remake most people 1139 01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:30.679 didn't really like it, the one with Colin Ferrell. I 1140 01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.000 did a little analysis of it on my website back 1141 01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.800 in the day. But no, this is an analysis actually 1142 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:40.239 of the original. And yeah, I mean I get into 1143 01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:41.199 mk Eltri stuff. 1144 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:46.199 I get into the idea of you know, Philip K. 1145 01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:49.719 Dick was playing with matrix type ideas before the Matrix, 1146 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:53.440 And if you watch All Recall, it's interesting because until Recall, 1147 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:58.960 the red pill is a bad thing because the red 1148 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.280 pill is going to pot wake him up. But it's 1149 01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.639 actually not designed to do that, right because in the film, 1150 01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.239 you know, the main Arnold Schwarzenegger character, he doesn't know 1151 01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:13.239 whether he's still in the matrix or whether he's out 1152 01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:13.440 of it. 1153 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.920 So it's kind of a matrix before the matrix type 1154 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:16.599 of plot. 1155 01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.920 And you know, it's a classic, you know, eighties ninety 1156 01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:23.119 I forget exactly it might be right on the bridge 1157 01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:26.719 of eighties and ninety but future dystopia and a lot 1158 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.079 of mars Ufo crap that I think is just kind 1159 01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:34.599 of propaganda. But but yeah, I think the main point 1160 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.559 that PKD was after, and that was the danger of 1161 01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:44.400 a society that becomes obsessed with the synthetic and retreating 1162 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:49.239 into technology and that being kind of a synthetic version 1163 01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:55.119 of our bliss that could entrap us. And that was 1164 01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:57.639 way before the matrix. 1165 01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.639 You know what I mean, Yeah, what do you think 1166 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:03.119 about speaking of synthetic and this is another rabbit hole? 1167 01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:07.920 Do you ever give any any thought to celebrity cloning theories? 1168 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:12.199 Because I always keep an open mind with this. There's 1169 01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:14.480 always a video or a slide show of people come. 1170 01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:16.960 I just saw this latest video that came across my, 1171 01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.320 uh my feed on on Instagram that was a side 1172 01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.599 by side with Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things and 1173 01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:28.440 Elizabeth Perkins from Big and I said, holy shit, I mean, 1174 01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:33.719 it's it's nuts and it there's so many of those examples. 1175 01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:36.840 Now I'm open to this and I'm going to give 1176 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:38.400 you a couple of reasons why, but I just want 1177 01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.400 to see what what you have thought about this from 1178 01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:44.079 because whether they're being cloned or whether it's just about 1179 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:49.639 conditioning and handling. On a psychological level, there's there's a 1180 01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:53.599 there's a lot of manipulation going on amongst starlits for 1181 01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:55.840 a long time. So just wanted to see where you're 1182 01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:56.199 at with this. 1183 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.599 Personally, I'm a skeptic about clones. I'm not convinced that 1184 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.039 and I'm saying in general whether there really is cloning 1185 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:07.719 because I've looked it into it some and usually when 1186 01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:11.119 they say, you know, oh, we've we've grown the ear 1187 01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:15.320 of a human inside the back of a mouse, and 1188 01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:16.840 then you go and read into it and it's like 1189 01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:19.399 they actually just stuck the cartilage of a year underneath 1190 01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:22.800 the back of the mouse, so it's like that's not 1191 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:25.279 really growing an air. And then when you read about 1192 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.640 like when they say they've cloned Dolly or one of 1193 01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.560 these sheets or whatever, or this pig is you know, 1194 01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:32.680 five percent clone pig or. 1195 01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:36.319 Whatever, like when you look into it, they're they're actually. 1196 01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:40.640 Just saying that it's like zero point two percent DNA 1197 01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.079 of some other thing or you know what I mean. 1198 01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:48.520 It's like, it's not very convincing to me that necessarily 1199 01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:50.960 there is cloning. But I don't know. I don't have 1200 01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:51.600 a set opinion. 1201 01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:53.960 I've just not seen it, so I don't know whether 1202 01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:58.239 it's real or not. Just a skeptical on a lot 1203 01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.239 of this stuff. I was in terms of Hollywood pe people, 1204 01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:03.239 I doubt it. There are body doubles though, so this 1205 01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:05.359 is something that we can verify. We do know exist, 1206 01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:10.520 like powerful figures, maybe even Hollywood people if they're like 1207 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:13.399 super high level, you know, super a lists, like probably 1208 01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:15.600 a Tom Cruise or something like that. Like I could 1209 01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:18.000 see Tom Cruise paying somebody to be a body double, 1210 01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.039 you know, say he's getting death threats, say he's got 1211 01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:24.880 a stalker, so something like this, Right, maybe Tom Cruise 1212 01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.119 pay somebody to you know, appear an event, just smile 1213 01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.399 and walk down a red carpet or something. And that's 1214 01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.920 not far fetched because we've seen world leaders on record 1215 01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:38.800 have body doubles. So Dom Hussein famously had multiple body doubles. 1216 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.479 And so if heads of states do it, which are 1217 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.119 in more of a dangerous position probably than an actor, 1218 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.319 I could see, you know, that's definitely true, but I 1219 01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:54.319 would think they have maybe a body double over cloning. 1220 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:56.560 But I've not seen the picture that you're talking about 1221 01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.920 with the girl from Big and Millie Bubby. 1222 01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:03.439 Well, i'll maybe i'll at the end when we're getting off, 1223 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:05.439 I'll put it up there just for shits and giggles. 1224 01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:08.199 But the reason why I'm open to this stuff is 1225 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:11.199 because when you think about what has already been thrown 1226 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:16.239 out there just in the name of transhumanism, and you know, 1227 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:21.520 genetic modification of things, or people trying to identify what 1228 01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:25.199 could be an issue for somebody down the line and 1229 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.880 taking preventative measures to alter the body or augmentation in 1230 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.279 some way. There's a lot of these weird Frankensteinish things 1231 01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:35.640 going on. Obviously that's a lot different than wholesale cloning 1232 01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:39.960 of a person or of an animal. But you and 1233 01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.000 I were talking about mechanized reproduction in twenty twenty three, 1234 01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:46.119 right as we finish Brave New World, and shortly after 1235 01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.720 that we got word of the baby lambs being sustained 1236 01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:53.159 in artificial placentas, and I brought you back on we talked. Now, 1237 01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:57.159 of course, here's the whole thing. There's the stated purpose 1238 01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:00.880 for what the hell they say, say that it's all 1239 01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.840 about this, of course, was that hopefully one day premature 1240 01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:08.399 babies can have some time inside of these artificial amniotic 1241 01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:12.319 sacs instead of being in an incubator somewhere if they're 1242 01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:17.560 born premie. Last month we had MIT. This was a 1243 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.840 Now you can say, this is probably gonna be bullshit 1244 01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:23.199 on the face of it. Will it ever happen, I 1245 01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:25.399 don't know, but the fact that it's coming from MIT 1246 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.680 is pretty interesting. They've been talking about spare bodies that 1247 01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:32.880 they wanted to create. They call them bodyoids. They're essentially brainless, 1248 01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:36.720 spiritless bodies, bodies that would revolutionize the way that we 1249 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:41.880 harvest organs or even provide meat. It was really crazy 1250 01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:45.159 what they put out there. And it's MIT this week 1251 01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:50.600 cloning experience experiments through the guise of de extinction, you know, 1252 01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:54.000 as if the world needs dire wolves. I'm sure you 1253 01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:56.880 saw that. And again, that's one of those things where 1254 01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:59.079 if this thing doesn't grow up to be the size 1255 01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:01.680 of a rhinoceros, then I'm not going to believe that 1256 01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:04.680 this was some extinct DNA of a wolf. 1257 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:06.880 That was yeah, well I read on the wolf thing. 1258 01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:10.279 That was another kind of misnumber, like they were saying 1259 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:11.840 it was this, but it's like, oh no, this is 1260 01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:15.039 actually just a wolf and suppose it has like part 1261 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:18.359 of the dire I don't know, it wasn't. Actually it 1262 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:20.560 didn't sound like actually what they were claiming it was 1263 01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:21.640 the one I read into it. 1264 01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:25.640 Yeah, yeah, I know. So that's what I'm saying. There is, 1265 01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:29.880 like you said, the show in the prestige, and then 1266 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.520 there is what's the science that's actually being worked on 1267 01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:36.239 behind the scene. What did they get from this little stunt. 1268 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.680 I'm sure something was gleaned from it that would be 1269 01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:41.439 useful for some other projects. While we were given the 1270 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:45.359 first dial dire wolf howl that was ever heard in 1271 01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.600 ten thousand years and everybody went Google gaga over it, 1272 01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:52.000 but what was really achieved? And then I believe on 1273 01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:54.960 the same day as the we got the headlines about 1274 01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.520 the wolf, we got the headlines from the NHS in 1275 01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.000 the UK about a baby, the first baby that was 1276 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:05.880 born by way of wound transplant. And I mean, I 1277 01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:10.199 don't I'm telling you man. As far as mechanized reproduction, 1278 01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:12.520 Brave New World stuff goes, it seems like all the 1279 01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:15.880 all the pieces are are lining up. 1280 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:17.760 Yeah, I mean that seems more likely than. 1281 01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:21.920 That there are all these clone people walking around. I mean, 1282 01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:24.239 but again, maybe maybe I just don't know enough about it. 1283 01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:27.239 I just I don't even know how given that there's 1284 01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:29.279 so much bull crap out there, Like, I don't even 1285 01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:31.680 know how I would how would I, as an observer 1286 01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:36.000 even go about verifying, you know, whether any of this 1287 01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:38.439 is real because I don't trust claims of MI I T. 1288 01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:42.760 I mean, they put out bogus science bull crap all 1289 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:43.079 the time. 1290 01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:45.079 Yeah, I T, so, I don't know. 1291 01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.319 I wouldn't be surprised. I would say this problem that 1292 01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:51.840 probably does exist synthetic womb, I could see. 1293 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:52.279 That being real. 1294 01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:55.880 But you know, you know where this is all that 1295 01:13:56.119 --> 01:13:59.039 that's heading right there, Brave New World. Yeah, that's that's 1296 01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:01.800 That's not This is not going to be nearly about 1297 01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:04.920 giving women a Uh. This is going to be for whoever, 1298 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:06.920 whoever wants a womb is going to be able to 1299 01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:07.439 get a womb. 1300 01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:07.840 One day. 1301 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:08.880 You're gonna put it in there. 1302 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:09.800 Yeah, good point. 1303 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.279 I mean, it's yeah, that's what I'm just saying. It's uh, 1304 01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:16.159 it's nutty, and it all goes along with messaging and 1305 01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:18.640 what is being massaged into the psyche of the of 1306 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:22.039 the public. And of course, not only is the news 1307 01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:24.279 a big part of that, but the movies as well. 1308 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:26.920 Do you do you see anything breaking on that Because 1309 01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.039 you're big into I mean, you do a lot of 1310 01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.039 comedy writing, you help produce other shows, not only yours. 1311 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:34.439 I know you work with Sam Hyde and and uh 1312 01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:36.239 and we also we also have a lot of mutual 1313 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.399 friends that are into filmmaking. And a lot has changed 1314 01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:41.520 in the last few years, aside from just new media 1315 01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:44.920 and how people are getting information and intellectual debate and 1316 01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.840 all that stuff. As someone who covers esoteric Hollywood so much, 1317 01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:52.800 where do you see movie making as far as balance 1318 01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:59.319 of power shifting in the next ten years. Is it 1319 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.279 possible to shift the bounds of power against this that 1320 01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:03.359 kind of moneyed interest. 1321 01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:11.279 Maybe not without a transfer of wealth. So I mean 1322 01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.640 maybe if people you know, get into bigcoin and we 1323 01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.359 have this massive well transfer, which I think bigcoin is 1324 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:19.760 the one of the future. I mean ten years from now, 1325 01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:23.119 I would expect one bitcoin to be ten million dollars 1326 01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:27.680 perhaps or more per coin. So maybe when we've got 1327 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.520 the money, we can start funding more wholesome. 1328 01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:33.319 Artworks. 1329 01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.800 But for the meantime, I think the old studio system 1330 01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:39.279 of Hollywood is pretty much done for a lot of 1331 01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:41.800 the Hollywood people are kind of admitting that, and now 1332 01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:46.840 it's just turning into video games, and you know, the 1333 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:50.439 big tech companies having their own studios, so Amazon Studios, 1334 01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:53.359 Apple Studios, Netflix. 1335 01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:53.279 You know what I mean. 1336 01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.760 It's basically tech streaming companies that are the new studio system. 1337 01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:00.720 But you know, amongst the gen Z, it's weird. They 1338 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:04.319 don't really like movies, which is a new bizarre thing 1339 01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:08.800 because mostly their attention spans have been destroyed from TikTok 1340 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:12.000 and scrolling, so they don't have the ability to sit 1341 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:16.960 through a movie. So that's going to be a weird 1342 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:22.159 phenomena to go through ten twenty years from now when 1343 01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:26.920 the gen Z or the you know, culture bearers, will 1344 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:28.920 they even be making movies or will we just have 1345 01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:32.279 like thirty minute movies that are from TikTok? 1346 01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:32.880 You know what I mean? 1347 01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:36.279 Well, yeah, I absolutely and I see it in the demograph. 1348 01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:39.800 I don't know what the how much you I have 1349 01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.399 to assume you do study the metrics on all of 1350 01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:46.680 your YouTube and everything else there too. I think that 1351 01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:51.439 the generational splits in media consumption just based on what 1352 01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:55.600 I'm able to collect on my YouTube, because Google provides 1353 01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.560 the best metrics out of all of the streaming platforms 1354 01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.880 out there, hands down, it is night and day. As 1355 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:06.279 far as who's now, I understand that. Also big tech 1356 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:13.800 companies and you know, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, they are prioritizing short, 1357 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:18.199 punchy two minutes in less content because people want to 1358 01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:21.800 be able to digest this in a you know, doom 1359 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:27.159 scroll real reel to reel kind of a thing there. Right, So, 1360 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:32.159 the culture right now, by way of algorithm and dopamine 1361 01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:35.359 and how the brain works, the culture right now is 1362 01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:38.920 going to short attention span. That is what we are 1363 01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:41.760 primed for. And you can see it especially in my 1364 01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:46.439 metrics there too. There's all whoever is watching my show 1365 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:49.239 between the ages of eighteen and twenty five, they're mostly 1366 01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:53.000 watching my highlights, the shorts and all that stuff. They 1367 01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:56.399 are most of that. It almost is like switching on 1368 01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:58.960 a light switch in a room from on to off 1369 01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:02.840 when it goes to the long form content. And that 1370 01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:08.199 is just immediately people about thirty to sixty five at 1371 01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:13.239 that point who are watching long form conversation, and it 1372 01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:15.880 has to be it has to be tied into a 1373 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.039 lot of that stuff because I know it's generational at 1374 01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:21.359 this point, maybe a one day it lengthens. But are 1375 01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:22.479 you seeing that on your end? 1376 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:25.520 Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with. I mean, I see 1377 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:29.920 the metrics, the analytics, like you're saying, and I don't think. 1378 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:33.479 I mean, I do almost all long form content, you know, 1379 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:37.039 on my channel. I do have some, you know, short stuff, 1380 01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:41.720 but I'm just looking at the metrics right now. It's 1381 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:49.640 like almost all of it is, like hardly anyone lasts 1382 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:57.199 more than sixteen to twenty five minutes. So my audience 1383 01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:03.439 is made up of almost all age forty excuse me, 1384 01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:04.960 age twenty. 1385 01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:07.159 To forty. 1386 01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:12.640 That's almost all my audience, and anyone underneath that is 1387 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:15.479 very small. Anyone above that is very small. But they don't, like, 1388 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:17.920 they don't watch more than fifteen to twenty minutes. 1389 01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:18.119 Now. 1390 01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:21.680 Granted, maybe the information is just not that interesting that 1391 01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:24.800 people want to watch it more than you know, fifteen 1392 01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:30.720 to twenty minutes or whatever, but that's weird because like 1393 01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.199 that means that the younger you go, the less attention 1394 01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:36.600 span there is, and the less that people are watching 1395 01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:38.439 anything long form, and they're kind of like that would 1396 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.279 mean that something over twenty five minutes is long form content. 1397 01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:43.720 I mean I do like three four or five hour 1398 01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:46.520 debate streams. So yeah, it's crazy. 1399 01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:49.920 Yeah, well, well you know what, Like I said, things 1400 01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:52.399 change all the time, and we were young as well, 1401 01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:54.960 and I would had answered my pants at that time too, 1402 01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:57.079 and maybe I didn't want to sit down and watch anything. 1403 01:19:57.279 --> 01:19:59.000 But so maybe things change. 1404 01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:02.279 But you can all get your attention span back. You 1405 01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.000 can be fixed, you can heal yourself from that. 1406 01:20:05.159 --> 01:20:07.520 That's true, It's good, it could. And I think just 1407 01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.319 sometimes growing and needing more than just those those quick 1408 01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:15.199 hits of a brain rot is uh is going to 1409 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:16.039 be something there too. 1410 01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:19.279 But hey, Frank, I apologize. I'm gonna my wife has 1411 01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:22.039 to do something in here. She got a podcast too, 1412 01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:23.920 so I'm going to have to head out here in 1413 01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:25.079 about a couple of minutes. 1414 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:27.119 Oh, no problem. I was just gonna let you plug 1415 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:29.920 your stuff anyway. Just in wrapping up that thought, I 1416 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:32.560 was just saying that, you know, it's it's one of 1417 01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:34.520 those things that we all evolve along the way, and 1418 01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:39.000 hopefully that's that's that's that takes that takes a hold. 1419 01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:41.600 But you know, on the corporate side. You can see 1420 01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:44.119 that it's actually set up to feed into this trend 1421 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.039 and hopefully people are able to break out of it. 1422 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:47.680 But right, uh, and. 1423 01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:50.079 Moving forward, what do you got coming up? Obviously you're 1424 01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:52.239 always live, you're always active, and you have things that 1425 01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:54.319 are going to be published over the next couple of months. 1426 01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.159 And what do you have next for for Jay Dyer? 1427 01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.800 Yeah, I mean look for the start calling with three, 1428 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.279 you know, on my website. I'll have all that information 1429 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:05.800 up and I'll talk about it on social media everywhere. Again, 1430 01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:07.720 don't know the exact date yet, but probably one of 1431 01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:11.199 two months from now it'll be out and you signed 1432 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:13.199 copies at the website as well as signed copies of 1433 01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:14.880 Part one and two and all the other stuff there. 1434 01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:20.199 Continuing to you know, I'll be writing for Sam Alex Jones. 1435 01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:22.479 We're not exactly sure what's going on with, you know, 1436 01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:24.760 the battle over info Wars, so that's all kind of 1437 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:25.760 up in the air. I don't know if I'll be 1438 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:29.439 doing that for forever, but as far as I'm aware, 1439 01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:31.800 I will be doing it as long as it's available 1440 01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:36.159 and it exists, so I mean, Alex will always exist, 1441 01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:41.479 but info Wars itself may not, so I will probably 1442 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:44.800 be doing some pretty big debates and appearances on whatever 1443 01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:51.159 podcast a couple other big podcasts out in California, San Diego, 1444 01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:54.279 Vegas podcasts, So that'll be coming up in the next 1445 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:56.720 the next month, so you can look for that stuff. 1446 01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:59.000 Well, safe travels, my friend, and keep kicking ass and 1447 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:00.600 I'm sure we'll talk soon and all the best of 1448 01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:02.920 you and Jamie and uh yeah, have a good one. 1449 01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:05.680 All right, thanks, Ray, All right, there you go, Jaydiyer 1450 01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:10.680 jasonalysis dot com. Well, you know what, we lost about 1451 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:13.439 twenty minutes there, but I got most of everything in 1452 01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:16.199 and it's alright, it's eight twenty. I'm gonna take a 1453 01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:18.520 really really quick break. When we come back, we're taking 1454 01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:21.640 your calls and uh, I'm looking forward to that. Nine 1455 01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:24.600 one four two two sixty nine. You could also jump 1456 01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:27.800 into the discord and I can pull you in that way. 1457 01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:28.840 Be right back. 1458 01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:54.319 Welcome to intermission. Yeah, intermission. 1459 01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:29.279 The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you. 1460 01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:36.439 He's fifteenth kay ten ten commandments. 1461 01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:49.760 Quite Frankly, he's amazing. 1462 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:02.359 All right, let's take a cat, shall we? Hey, six 1463 01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:03.960 one four, you're on the air. Who's this? 1464 01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:09.399 Hey, frank this is Tim, I actually sent you the 1465 01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:11.920 PSA earlier. 1466 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.800 Okay, Tim, let me ask you, because I don't remember 1467 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.319 the methanphetamine one. Is that real or did somebody just 1468 01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.479 make that and make it look like an authentic nineteen 1469 01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:22.359 nineties PSA? 1470 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.960 No, that was a real PSA in the nineteen nineties. 1471 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:30.880 I remember that as a kid, and probably the last 1472 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:33.800 one I sent you as well, and with the dog. 1473 01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.960 Both of those I remember so vividly as a kid 1474 01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:40.159 because instead of not wanting to do drugs, I was like, 1475 01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:42.840 you know what, mess sounds like a good thing if 1476 01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:44.319 I really want to get my house cleaning. 1477 01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:47.239 No, I know it's not good at the end that 1478 01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:52.039 she's covered in lesions, But other than that, I mean 1479 01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:53.800 like the house looked fantastic. 1480 01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:58.399 Oh yes, the most productive woman on her entire block. 1481 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:01.000 Well, listen, Tim. 1482 01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:03.159 And the last one I sent you was the dog. 1483 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:05.119 I was like, if my dog could talk to me, 1484 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:08.199 I'm doing whatever they're giving me. 1485 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:10.680 Okay, let me see here. The last one with the dog. 1486 01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:13.399 You know, no matter what it is, I'm going to 1487 01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:15.479 save it for tomorrow because I think Mike Baldwin is 1488 01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:16.600 going to get a kick out of it. And I 1489 01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:18.880 all maybe I'll look for some more PSA s. I 1490 01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:22.680 know that the cannabis ones with the ninja turtles. I 1491 01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:24.840 remember that one. I'm not a chicken, You're a turkey. 1492 01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:26.239 You remember that one? 1493 01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:29.760 Yes, oh, I most definitely do. And by the way, 1494 01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:32.079 I want to apologize to Jay Dyer. When I seen 1495 01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:34.359 your post. I've seen Jay and I was speed reading, 1496 01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:37.640 so I immediately thought of Jamison Gulinello. 1497 01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.439 Oh wow, okay, so I. 1498 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:42.720 Was taking health and I'm like, oh, let me te so. 1499 01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:47.359 But it was Jay Dyer also awesome, awesome guests on 1500 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:50.000 the show tonight, great show, Frank. 1501 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:51.880 Well, thank you, Tim and And to be honest, I 1502 01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.279 never even thought two ways about I thought you meant 1503 01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:58.279 Jay Dyer. Because there's something to be said about the 1504 01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:03.239 the the anti drug PSA messages of the late eighties 1505 01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:05.840 and early nineties. I mean, it was part of the 1506 01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:09.640 culture back then. It's of course, it's messaging from a 1507 01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:15.239 central authority, and it's worthy of some analysis, it really is. 1508 01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:18.680 And saying that I am a gate kid, by the way. 1509 01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:25.800 You really gate yes, yes, okay? So was your your 1510 01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:30.000 experiences in the Gate program just kind of mundane? Like 1511 01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:32.159 many people have told me or do you have some 1512 01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.640 very strange things that you remember, like sleep away camp stories? 1513 01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:41.199 Uh, not sleep away camp stories. I do remember like 1514 01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:44.479 trying to guess the next card. I remember them teaching 1515 01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:47.479 me chess in second grade, and I think like second 1516 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.960 grade kids were actually just learning like Puff the Magic Dragon, 1517 01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:54.720 but they were teaching us chess. But I've had multiple 1518 01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:58.399 instances throughout my life after that that's kind of been 1519 01:26:59.079 --> 01:26:59.640 very strange. 1520 01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:01.720 Okay, so let me try I think of some of 1521 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.359 the things there too. There were there was a list 1522 01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:06.079 that we were working off of that A lot of 1523 01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:09.239 people in Gate and Tag or any of the iterations 1524 01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:11.920 over the years have had in common. Do you do 1525 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:13.199 you have that you have? 1526 01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:17.640 I have drowned. I have not had an Israeli girlfriend. 1527 01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:22.600 Okay, no, not just Israeli girlfriend, Israeli art student girlfriend. 1528 01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:26.159 Art student girlfriend, no note of that. But I have drowned. 1529 01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:29.960 I have been in between middle school and high school. 1530 01:27:29.960 --> 01:27:34.760 I was invited to Washington, DC summer camp, like Youth 1531 01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:38.560 for Leadership or something, but we didn't have like the 1532 01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:40.960 money to send me and it was some weird program. 1533 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:42.800 It was also through Gate. 1534 01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:45.079 What about the back of What about the back of 1535 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:48.199 your head? I believe it was almost like a cliff. 1536 01:27:48.760 --> 01:27:50.920 I don't know, it's it's the formation of your skull. 1537 01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:52.600 Does it come into like a point in the back 1538 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:53.079 of your head. 1539 01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:57.479 No, the back of my head is completely flat. And 1540 01:27:58.119 --> 01:27:59.920 the joke has always been it's because my parents did 1541 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.239 love me enough but left me lying in the crisp. 1542 01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:03.239 Oh I'm sorry to hear that. 1543 01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:05.920 Oh no, it's vibe. 1544 01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:13.560 All right. Uh okay, So last question before I let 1545 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:17.520 you go. Somebody a couple of people said that they 1546 01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:21.800 felt that ever since they were in the program, they 1547 01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:27.520 have had some very unusual help from the law, like 1548 01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:31.239 they've gotten out of some sticky legal situations way too easily. 1549 01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:32.119 They didn't know why. 1550 01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:37.159 They always thought like somebody was looking out for them. Absolutely, really, 1551 01:28:37.399 --> 01:28:38.319 do you have any examples? 1552 01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:43.680 I was I went to the military. There was multiple 1553 01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:47.479 times drinking and driving. The middle of I was pited 1554 01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:49.560 at lot. We were supposed to have somebody that was 1555 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:52.359 a designated driver. He ended up getting drunk, of course, 1556 01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:55.159 so we had to figure out who's the least drunk 1557 01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:59.399 to drive back from Mexico to base. So I'm the 1558 01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:01.640 least drunk, So I'm driving, we get pulled, I get 1559 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:04.039 pulled over. I'm swerving all over the road. Cop comes 1560 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:06.439 up to me. I pull out my license, He looks 1561 01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:08.640 at it, he goes back to his car, runs me, 1562 01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:12.039 comes back to the car and says, hey, you guys 1563 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:14.159 need to follow me back to the police station and 1564 01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:15.680 sleep it off in the parking lot. 1565 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:17.520 That's strange. 1566 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:21.119 And we had drove straight to the police station, and 1567 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:23.279 of course he pulls out to go catch other people, 1568 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:26.960 so we ended up pulling back out. I've had many 1569 01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:29.439 run ins with the lull where I probably should have 1570 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:33.399 gotten something done, you know, tickets, and they just go 1571 01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:34.279 ahead and let me pass. 1572 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.640 Wow. Wow, unless you had a really really cool cop, 1573 01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:41.239 because otherwise that that would be a knock on the 1574 01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:44.279 door for all of your parents or whoever the hell's 1575 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.439 looking after you at school or your your the authorities, 1576 01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:49.239 whatever the hell. I forget if you said that was 1577 01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:51.199 when you were already in the military or before then, 1578 01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:56.319 but that must have been a really cool cop or somebody. 1579 01:29:57.039 --> 01:29:59.760 There's there's some some sort of a note attached to 1580 01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:04.319 your file. Who knows, who knows? Welcome, Thanks for the call. 1581 01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:07.640 I believe there is, But I'm not gonna push my luck. 1582 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:10.039 No, don't don't. You're already ahead of the game. You're 1583 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:12.640 playing with house money. Do me a favor. If you 1584 01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:16.600 find any more fun PSAs, just keep tweeting them at 1585 01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:19.119 me in that same thread and I'll collect them for tomorrow. 1586 01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:20.880 And I just want to get I think that it 1587 01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:23.079 would be fun to get some reaction from Mike Baldwin 1588 01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:23.560 when he's. 1589 01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:26.680 On with me. Awesome, awesome, good to talk to you, Frank, 1590 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:27.039 all right. 1591 01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:29.159 Have a good one. Take care. There goes Tim. Everybody 1592 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.319 call on in nine one four two hundred two sixty nine. 1593 01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.600 It is eight twenty nine, and uh, we got a 1594 01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:37.840 half hour left, so we're just going to be taking 1595 01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:40.680 your calls. Let me see, let me see. We have 1596 01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:44.560 a rumble rant on the quite frankly rumble that we're 1597 01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:46.840 gonna go check out what's going on with bad Lands. 1598 01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:49.119 All of our friends that are joining us over there too. 1599 01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:51.319 Jay simmos As, I've been catching up with the live 1600 01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:54.960 shows all week. Last night was intense. Keep it up, Frank, 1601 01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:57.680 thank you. I have something on last night as well. 1602 01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:03.840 It just came in before the show started. It was 1603 01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:07.439 pretty intense. The second half of the show was great. 1604 01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:09.520 I love talking about the tariff stuff. I think it's 1605 01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:13.079 exciting what's happening on that end, but it's it was 1606 01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:16.800 the two times that that Brandon Joe Williams was on 1607 01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:21.159 it has been intense only because of the volume of 1608 01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:24.760 stuff and also the implication of course, we're talking about 1609 01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:30.039 declaring sovereignty from the tax matrix. And and you know 1610 01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:35.960 how you stand as far as legal definition in opposition 1611 01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:40.520 to the United States of America, and whether or not 1612 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:42.720 you pay your income taxes, how you exist in that 1613 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:45.600 world without doing all that stuff. But and and that 1614 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:48.199 is all well and good until we got to the 1615 01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:54.640 very end about the the endorsement notes, writing an endorsement 1616 01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:59.479 note to just drive away with new cars without any 1617 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:04.880 intention of actually exchanging currency or barter or putting up 1618 01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:08.159 any kind of collateral to attain it. So we'll talk 1619 01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:10.079 about that in a second, because I got an email 1620 01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:12.279 before we want live all right, six four six, We 1621 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.439 got a local yokel over here. What's going on New York? 1622 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:17.760 Hey, it's Larry and Brooklyn. 1623 01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:19.159 Larry, how are you go ahead? 1624 01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:21.479 It's been a while, dude. I love when you talk 1625 01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:22.880 to this stuff. Man, this is my wheelhouse. 1626 01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:25.119 Good yeah, Ja Duyer. 1627 01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:26.560 He was right, he was right on it. I got 1628 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:28.479 to call him out a little bit because I've recognized 1629 01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:31.359 his language over a lot of years. I know that 1630 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:33.640 he's close. He's not going to talk about Fie, but 1631 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:36.800 he's really close. He's already skeptic of He's a skeptic 1632 01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:40.279 of NASA. He's a skeptic of space. And you guys 1633 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.640 covered the gamut tonight. I love the talking about the 1634 01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:47.199 movies and the predictive programming and how it's subtly laced 1635 01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:49.279 over the course of generations to get you to believe 1636 01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:52.840 in a certain thing. And I mean, really like, this 1637 01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:55.039 is how we understand propaganda these days. 1638 01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:58.479 Yeah, yeah, here, here, here's a little bit over. Here's 1639 01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:03.640 the table of contents he sent me over so total recall. 1640 01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:06.279 I think that that I can't wait to take a 1641 01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:09.840 look at that. But Mary Poppins, I should have asked 1642 01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:11.079 him about Mary Poppins. 1643 01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:14.680 And now I want to go out Mary Poppins. Listen 1644 01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:18.720 to listen to what she says throughout the picture. She goes, 1645 01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:23.000 just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. 1646 01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:26.800 This is this is preprediction for all medicine is good. 1647 01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:29.079 Just take some sugar with it. All medicine is good. 1648 01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:32.920 We're finding out these days that perhaps it isn't. Well, 1649 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:34.479 that's early predictive programming. 1650 01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:38.680 I don't I don't necessarily. Hey, I'm as skeptical with 1651 01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:40.880 you as you on all that stuff at this point 1652 01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:44.159 there too, But I wouldn't necessarily say this is about 1653 01:33:44.199 --> 01:33:46.119 all medicine is good. It's just that if you ever 1654 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.359 tasted robitussin, if you ever had any that rank ass 1655 01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:52.479 ship in your mouth, you would love a spoonful of 1656 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:54.479 sugar at that point to help it go down. But 1657 01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:57.560 I just I just know, I don't know. Maybe I'm 1658 01:33:57.560 --> 01:33:58.119 just looking at that. 1659 01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:01.239 I gotta go with, did you have a robo flip? 1660 01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:02.279 Oh? 1661 01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:04.760 No, no, But you know what I was. I was working. 1662 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:06.800 I was working at CVS at that it was one 1663 01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:10.880 of my first jobs on the books. And I was 1664 01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:14.279 working at CVS and I was about fifteen years old, 1665 01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:17.119 and this is when I was told, okay, listen, Frank, 1666 01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:19.800 you got to look out for the robotussin. And you 1667 01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:22.079 got and especially when certain people walked in. There was 1668 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:24.359 this one, you know, strung out girl that kept coming in. 1669 01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.680 It's real sad. I remember it to this day. And 1670 01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:31.479 this was the first time I ever saw a product 1671 01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:35.640 put behind some kind of plastic. And this was back 1672 01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:38.720 in you know, just around two thousand or so, nineteen 1673 01:34:38.800 --> 01:34:42.680 ninety nine. You know, everything's behind sheet glass now and 1674 01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:46.319 locked up for one reason or another. But when I 1675 01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:48.760 heard about robo tripping back then, I mean, some of 1676 01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:51.119 the people who were coming in looking for that robotustin, 1677 01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:53.479 they were fucked up. And the other thing that that 1678 01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:57.319 we were told to look out for was people stealing 1679 01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:02.359 baby powder, the talcum, because that's what a lot of 1680 01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:06.199 dealers were cutting their cocaine with. And I you know, 1681 01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:08.600 then then you see all of the all the damn 1682 01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:13.600 cancer cluster, all the can all the cancer clustered lawsuits 1683 01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:15.800 that have popped up because of certain talcum powders and 1684 01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:18.039 ship I was like, oh, I wonder how many people 1685 01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:20.159 were sniffing it? You know, they didn't even know it. 1686 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:23.039 So yeah, yeah, I learned a lot at fifteen. 1687 01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:25.359 I didn't mean to take it all the way off 1688 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:27.800 into that, but like you had more of the movies, 1689 01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:30.319 what were the other movies that were on the table content. 1690 01:35:30.199 --> 01:35:33.760 Hary Pompa, Disney Disney's Cruella. I never watched it. I 1691 01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:35.680 never watched it, But I understood what the hell was 1692 01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:38.600 going to go on there. There is this trend. There's 1693 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:43.159 this trend with Disney and other other play other movie 1694 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:46.880 houses that bring back and want to reimagine certain types 1695 01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:52.039 of characters, especially villains, and sympathize with them. So I knew, 1696 01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:54.039 you know, right off the bat, I said, Oh, okay, 1697 01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:57.359 so this is a this is a an apologetic for 1698 01:35:57.560 --> 01:36:00.600 Kruella de Ville instead of just painting her as the 1699 01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:05.439 crazed witch that is trying to kill puppies to turn 1700 01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:10.319 them into into quotes. Let's see hear Wonder Woman, GMO 1701 01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:15.399 Invitation to Hell Society, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, I 1702 01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:21.119 know that one. You want to talk about mass psychosis, 1703 01:36:22.840 --> 01:36:25.479 that is, that's a good one. I mean I often 1704 01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:27.920 think of an invasion of the Body Snatchers. I thought 1705 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:29.439 about it a lot during twenty twenty. 1706 01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:32.239 I mean talk about well what about they live? I mean, 1707 01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:35.159 that's the ultimate that that's the ultimate truth and plain sight, 1708 01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:40.880 you know, conspiratorial like you know Reptilians among Us movie 1709 01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.199 that was sort of like kind of round upon by 1710 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:46.279 the mainstream, and it's like kind of applicable today. 1711 01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:50.279 You know, absolutely, I gotta imagine I have I have 1712 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:54.800 esoteric Hollywood one and two. I have to imagine that 1713 01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:57.159 they live as in one of those, because that's, like 1714 01:36:57.239 --> 01:36:58.920 you said, that is almost like a one oh one 1715 01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:01.880 level class at this point. If you're going to talk 1716 01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:04.359 about movies, movies with a message, that has to be 1717 01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:07.079 like the top five you start with these days. But 1718 01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:09.840 a lot of this stuff with Christopher Nolan was great. 1719 01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:14.479 The Prestige Interstellar, uh inception, I like that, I like, 1720 01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:16.920 I liked all the The Batman trilogy was a lot 1721 01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:19.319 of fun. But Watchman is in here. 1722 01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:22.760 So Watchman's got a lot of stuff. It's it's it's 1723 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:24.800 occulted a lot, and there's a lot of stuff to 1724 01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:26.960 decode out of that one. And they're, hey, what's the 1725 01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:30.119 one nicol about? You know, what's the what's the cartoon 1726 01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:32.720 one that talks about adrenochrome a lot in it? It's 1727 01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:35.520 there's the Monsters inc. Monsters Inc. You want to see 1728 01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:38.359 some some seriously creepy ship, watch that one. 1729 01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:40.920 Wait a second, there's adrenochrome in Monsters Inc. 1730 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:45.680 Monsters inc. Is is laced with adrenochrome, uh, Like, all 1731 01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:47.600 over the place. It's it's it's in the background. It's 1732 01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:49.840 everything and it's actually about the process. Sorry, I don't 1733 01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:53.000 want to take your podcast way off, you know, but 1734 01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:55.600 this like those are its that know about that stuff. 1735 01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.159 Watch that one and all right, I'm gonna have to 1736 01:37:58.199 --> 01:37:58.880 go check look. 1737 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:01.640 Into that rabbit hole. I'll just stay there, but I'm 1738 01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:03.159 gonna get off here. But I just wanted to say hello. 1739 01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:04.880 I haven't said hih in a while, and I'll be 1740 01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:06.840 catching up. I love these topics. I would like to 1741 01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:08.920 talk about him, and I hope you're well. 1742 01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:11.359 Brother, Oh well, I hope you're well. To Lawrence, have 1743 01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:14.960 a good one. Be well. There you go, Larry from Brooklyn. 1744 01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.920 It's good to have him on Planet of the Apes 1745 01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:21.840 and the Reboots. There's a lot to say there. There's 1746 01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:23.880 a lot to say with total recall. We already did 1747 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:29.079 a little bit of that. But Black Mirror, Black Mirror, 1748 01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:32.359 I gotta say, Black Mirror is one of Black Mirror 1749 01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:36.119 is one of those series that I want to watch more, 1750 01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:42.119 but it's just so exhausting. It's so exhausting because it's 1751 01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:48.479 you could just read the news. Just read the news, caller, 1752 01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:49.319 you're on the air. 1753 01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:51.720 Go ahead, hey, Frankie, what's up? 1754 01:38:52.039 --> 01:38:55.520 Hello? There a four or five, how you been, I'm doing. 1755 01:38:55.479 --> 01:38:58.960 Great, great to see Jay Dyer on he's a he's 1756 01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:03.680 fucking phenomenal, and it's it's it's awesome that you have them. 1757 01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:10.760 What I wanted to bring up is when when things 1758 01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:17.039 become mundane, like if you're like really in Like I'm 1759 01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:18.640 not gonna say like I'm in on this, I'm not, 1760 01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:24.680 but I've I've, I've I've had my experiences. When when 1761 01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:29.000 when when this mysterious stuff becomes really mundane and we're 1762 01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:34.600 gonna get to that inflection point. I feel and and 1763 01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:38.880 and and and you're you're you're, you're you're working through it. 1764 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:42.920 But when you when it, when it goes from questioning two, 1765 01:39:44.039 --> 01:39:47.680 we all fully get it. So one quick one the 1766 01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:53.279 challenger thing. I can remember being in grade school, New 1767 01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:58.439 York City and getting called into the auditorium and having 1768 01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:02.720 this this this big moment, this massive moment. They had 1769 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:05.439 a fucking screen set up for us to watch it, 1770 01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:08.960 and and we all, we all were supposed to feel 1771 01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:14.039 something from it. Flash forward two thousand and one. 1772 01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:17.359 Wait, wait, wait they did they bring this? They made 1773 01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:20.039 you watch the rerun knowing how it's going to end, 1774 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:23.279 or you got together and watch the live feed. I 1775 01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:23.600 was in. 1776 01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:26.359 I was in. I was in a first grade through 1777 01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:33.279 sixth grade public school. All the grades were brought down. 1778 01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:36.520 All of them to watch it live. What to watch 1779 01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:38.199 it live? Or after the fact? 1780 01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:42.720 Oh oh no, no no, after the fact. That wait, shit, Frank, 1781 01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:46.119 after the fact, after the fact. 1782 01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:49.119 Damn they know they So they chose to sit you 1783 01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:53.880 all down to watch these people die, yeah, and to and. 1784 01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:57.439 To have like this moment where we all where we 1785 01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:04.119 where we all could sort of grieve together. So so 1786 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:06.800 I mean, this is this is this is a fake 1787 01:41:07.159 --> 01:41:11.199 NASA program. And I emailed you about the the fake 1788 01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:15.720 fucking porpoises dancing around the SpaceX fucking capsule which is 1789 01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:18.680 so incredibly fucking ridiculously fake with the woman of their 1790 01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:21.439 hair in the air and then coming out of this tube. 1791 01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:24.960 And it's like, it's like, why are they still doing it? 1792 01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:27.880 You can't figure it out because nobody's paying The kids 1793 01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:30.800 aren't paying attention. But back to what I was talking about. 1794 01:41:31.479 --> 01:41:35.960 I was probably fourth grade, third fourth grade. All the 1795 01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:39.119 grades were brought down into our communal lunch room where 1796 01:41:39.119 --> 01:41:42.920 we always ate lunch together, and we were shown, if 1797 01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:46.279 I remember correctly, we were shown the fucking the video 1798 01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:50.319 of of of the thing happening and then told about 1799 01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:52.560 it and like and like we were meant to grieve 1800 01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:55.920 together over this national tragedy. 1801 01:41:57.640 --> 01:42:00.720 Well, I mean, it could have just been it could 1802 01:42:00.760 --> 01:42:04.359 have just been the the way that your school administrators 1803 01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:09.439 thought would be best to They probably all just thought 1804 01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:12.279 I don't think I don't think that they were given 1805 01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:15.039 instructions from the government to go do that. It's probably 1806 01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:18.000 just what they thought was appropriate back then. I don't know, 1807 01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:18.880 it could have just been. 1808 01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:21.680 That's that's an excellent no, and that's excellent point. And 1809 01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:24.000 I wasn't I wasn't going I wasn't saying it was 1810 01:42:24.079 --> 01:42:28.399 the government that was that was doing it. But it's 1811 01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:33.880 it's like everything is fucking subtle, like like you don't 1812 01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:37.479 need to like tell somebody to do something if you've 1813 01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:40.640 already set this thing in motion and it's just going 1814 01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:45.760 to play itself out. Like they said, TV was gonna 1815 01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:49.640 rot your brain. And we're a generation of TV watchers. 1816 01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:52.119 We talked about the kids watching TikTok and their attention 1817 01:42:52.319 --> 01:42:56.399 span and not watching movies. But but when the when 1818 01:42:56.439 --> 01:43:01.079 the when the extraordinary becomes the mundane, and and there 1819 01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:04.319 there really is when you like, this is not or 1820 01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:09.600 nothing like. Their big trick is to make everything look organic. 1821 01:43:11.479 --> 01:43:15.479 But it's it's it's not. It's actually really fucking simple. Okay, 1822 01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:18.800 it's just it's just it's just it's just media and 1823 01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:22.880 and and and it's and and and it's like a yeah, yeah, 1824 01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:25.640 that's what I got. That's what I got. Three Frankie, 1825 01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:26.520 God love you brother. 1826 01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:30.079 Well, well, thank you, Well hit us. I can working 1827 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:36.520 back from television, whether it be baby boomers going into 1828 01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:41.119 even you know gen X, and you know, TV had 1829 01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:43.359 been around for a couple of generations before we started 1830 01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:48.319 getting handheld, before we started getting more mobile, and first 1831 01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:50.800 it was already that way when I was growing up, 1832 01:43:51.039 --> 01:43:54.800 TV will rot your brain. Everybody had, you know, to 1833 01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:56.840 get away from that television. Then all of a sudden, 1834 01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:02.720 the gaming consoles started to to really evolve quick and 1835 01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.880 it was still easy to manage our time when the 1836 01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:11.079 gaming consoles were not connected to the internet. It became 1837 01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:15.199 a lot more addictive once you were you're playing on 1838 01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:18.279 networks against people and all the other shit, and then 1839 01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:22.119 there's less and less reason to leave the house all together. 1840 01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:23.920 And then of course you're carrying it in your back pocket. 1841 01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:27.800 So the evolution of the technology to say that television 1842 01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:33.720 wasn't rotting people's brains is probably it was. Probably was, 1843 01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:36.680 It's just it was just a little bit more of 1844 01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:40.720 a primitive a primitive version of what we have going 1845 01:44:40.760 --> 01:44:44.920 on right now. And everybody is having all of their 1846 01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:51.399 small peaceful moments sucked away to the badges and the 1847 01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:55.079 ring tones and everything else that's calling you back to 1848 01:44:55.199 --> 01:44:58.640 the portal in your palm. So it probably where things 1849 01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:01.000 all started, and it was a lot easier to manage, 1850 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:04.319 no doubt about it. But yeah, I can see so 1851 01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:06.439 I can see that. And then and then there's the 1852 01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:10.600 other thing there too, Like we look at CNN's Gulf 1853 01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:15.800 War coverage. Look, we look at CNN's Gulf War coverage 1854 01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:18.439 and laugh at it now and say, how the hell 1855 01:45:18.520 --> 01:45:22.159 did anybody think that this was real? How the hell 1856 01:45:22.199 --> 01:45:25.560 did anybody think that that CGI in this movie look good? 1857 01:45:26.239 --> 01:45:29.279 Why the hell weren't we all laughing our asses off 1858 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:32.760 when Mortal Kombat two came out and we didn't realize 1859 01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:34.680 how bad really? I mean, I think some of us 1860 01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:36.920 thought it was, oh, actually, that's really pretty fucking bad, 1861 01:45:37.479 --> 01:45:39.039 and then a couple of then just a couple of 1862 01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:44.720 years later it just aged so poorly. I mean, so 1863 01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:48.960 the real thing there is that, yeah, these productions hindsight 1864 01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:51.600 is twenty twenty you look back and said, wow, really 1865 01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:56.039 screwing with us. But at the time it was politically 1866 01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:59.239 expedient and you had everybody watching one source of it. 1867 01:46:01.159 --> 01:46:03.560 So there's still a lot of trust, a lot of 1868 01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:06.680 trust left over from past generations. There's a lot of 1869 01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:10.079 trust there. It was trust alone is what got people 1870 01:46:10.399 --> 01:46:13.039 to the most people, for a critical mass of people 1871 01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:16.000 in the United States to accept that Oswald killed JFK. 1872 01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:21.680 It was just trust. I listened to a lot of 1873 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.319 Coast to Coast classics now with Art Bell, I have 1874 01:46:25.479 --> 01:46:30.199 since about twenty twenty one, and you know whatever, it's 1875 01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:32.199 late at night. I want something to listen to. Like, 1876 01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:36.199 there's so many places out there that host old episodes, 1877 01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:37.800 and I don't care what the hell the topic is. 1878 01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:40.680 I just want to listen to some kind of conversation 1879 01:46:41.039 --> 01:46:43.640 A guy taking calls from people in nineteen ninety six, 1880 01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:47.920 in nineteen ninety seven just to listen to, just to 1881 01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:51.680 listen to how people were thinking about things. I was 1882 01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:55.640 listening to an episode that was just an open lines 1883 01:46:55.720 --> 01:46:58.880 kind of a night in nineteen ninety six, just last night, 1884 01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:05.960 and and Art refused to believe, refused to believe that 1885 01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:10.600 the government had anything to do with and were willingly 1886 01:47:10.680 --> 01:47:15.279 suppressing what happened with TWA eight hundred. Refused to believe. 1887 01:47:16.079 --> 01:47:19.720 And he just couldn't take himself there. He also never 1888 01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:22.439 I mean, I mean, there's just so you want to 1889 01:47:22.439 --> 01:47:25.560 talk about trust and what the authorities are saying. It's 1890 01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:28.880 really it's like a time capsule there. And that's all people, 1891 01:47:29.479 --> 01:47:32.199 that's all the Kennedy. Those are people who were alive 1892 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:35.960 and very much conscious when Kennedy was shot. And Dan 1893 01:47:36.159 --> 01:47:40.000 rather calmed them all down, Walter Cronkit calmed them all down, 1894 01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:43.199 gave them the gave them the four to one one, 1895 01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:48.000 and it was all bullshit. It's all bullshit. But we 1896 01:47:48.079 --> 01:47:50.680 only had one channel, a couple of channels to tune 1897 01:47:50.720 --> 01:47:54.239 into and one device. You walk away from that device, 1898 01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:57.199 suddenly you're in real life again. You can't walk away 1899 01:47:57.239 --> 01:48:01.279 from them so easily anymore. And and that's not to 1900 01:48:01.319 --> 01:48:03.319 say that everything that was on the television was bullshit. 1901 01:48:03.359 --> 01:48:07.960 There's just I love watching old old TV shows and 1902 01:48:08.479 --> 01:48:11.880 we often do that on Sunday nights. When Aurora is 1903 01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:15.960 still awake. Ed Sullivan reruns are on constantly. I love 1904 01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:18.920 stuff like that, man, I really do. All right, real quick, 1905 01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:21.359 we gotta take one last break. When we come back, 1906 01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:23.600 some more of your calls. We'll take it right to 1907 01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:27.600 the top. Thirteen minutes left, but don't go anywhere. Quite frankly, 1908 01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:30.439 you know, contributed to the death of seven million people 1909 01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:33.960 because the funding of gain of function experiments in the 1910 01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:34.760 Wuhan lamb. 1911 01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:36.199 What's the matter? 1912 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:42.119 Why there are no olives here? There are no olives here? 1913 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:57.079 Bring out the olives, Sally. 1914 01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:04.399 Sally, I don't have anything, Sally, I don't have anything. 1915 01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:07.239 You've probably seen the new collab between Rise and bad 1916 01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:09.960 Lands Media, But I'll tell you what you haven't seen yet, 1917 01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:13.199 the end of clown World as we know it. 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The fall of 1930 01:49:57.520 --> 01:50:02.479 clown world is upon us, patriots. Let's make it official. 1931 01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:08.600 I just were able to mimic NeSSI Imun's voice by 1932 01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:12.239 recreating his mouth and vocal chords with a three D printer. 1933 01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:15.359 It allowed them to produce a single sound. 1934 01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:30.479 All right, Oh no, we're going to have to take 1935 01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:31.359 this call right here. 1936 01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:35.800 Hold on one second, and welcome to the show. Jeremy Reese. 1937 01:50:36.159 --> 01:50:38.199 I wonder what triggered you to call in tonight? Is 1938 01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:42.680 it the uh? Is it the media? The media centralization 1939 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:46.119 of all messages that of course led to JFK talk 1940 01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:46.880 and everything else. 1941 01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:51.560 Yeah, yeah, I mean I saw that you guys were alive. 1942 01:50:51.640 --> 01:50:54.640 I kind of just tuned in, So I haven't what 1943 01:50:54.760 --> 01:50:57.960 have you guys covered so far? Top ten Cia offs. 1944 01:50:57.720 --> 01:51:01.159 Oh yeah, we did top ten ci A. Jay Dyer 1945 01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:03.000 brought that to the table. We did a little bit 1946 01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:05.680 out of that, and then we we we blended that 1947 01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:10.760 into esoteric and uh, you know, messaging, cultural messaging that 1948 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:15.119 through that is delivered through Hollywood. Because he's just he's 1949 01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:19.239 just completed writing his Esoteric Hollywood Part three, a series 1950 01:51:19.279 --> 01:51:21.319 of now a trilogy of books on that. So we 1951 01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:25.640 kind of just brought intelligence into the culture and how 1952 01:51:25.720 --> 01:51:29.199 all that influence meshed together. And of course, with ten 1953 01:51:29.239 --> 01:51:30.960 minutes left, here you are, so i'd love to give 1954 01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:31.600 you a few of them. 1955 01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:37.800 Yeah, yeah, I'm here. 1956 01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:43.159 Well, well, welcome, welcome aboard. What would you say? Is 1957 01:51:43.239 --> 01:51:46.119 there any movies out there? I guess we'll just stick 1958 01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:48.439 to the topic at hand. Are there any movies out 1959 01:51:48.479 --> 01:51:51.880 there that you could really point to that, especially from 1960 01:51:52.079 --> 01:51:57.239 a high technology or even a UFO alien standpoint, that 1961 01:51:58.039 --> 01:52:00.760 you always talk about that that's serve was one purpose 1962 01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:06.279 or another that you know was a complete op From 1963 01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:08.279 a movie standpoint, Is there any of them? 1964 01:52:10.239 --> 01:52:12.760 I mean a lot of the ones that have been 1965 01:52:12.800 --> 01:52:15.760 released in the in the last two years. I mean, 1966 01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:18.479 I mean a lot of the like small like documentaries 1967 01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:20.880 out there, but the Hollywood movies let me see that. Uh, 1968 01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:24.840 I don't know, but I added on the jam. Let 1969 01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:26.319 me get back to that. I want to say. I 1970 01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:27.800 want to just want to throw in something about the 1971 01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:31.600 jfk assassination. Yeah, one of the women is that befriended 1972 01:52:32.039 --> 01:52:36.520 Marina Oswald, Lee's wife, There was a woman named Priscilla McMillan, 1973 01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:40.920 and she she helped translate and write her autobiography supposedly, 1974 01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:43.680 and then it turns out that she was the CIA 1975 01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:49.239 uh consenting operative, you know, like she she was like 1976 01:52:49.359 --> 01:52:52.319 an knowledgeable like operative. 1977 01:52:51.880 --> 01:52:52.520 For the CIA. 1978 01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:55.720 And there's documentation that she was paid for like almost 1979 01:52:55.800 --> 01:52:59.039 all her work, and that came out in the files. 1980 01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:03.239 So this is the way that they've infiltrated all kinds 1981 01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:06.159 of media and culture so that when people go to 1982 01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:07.920 the literature and they say, oh, well, this is what 1983 01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:10.079 you know that this is the profile that they have 1984 01:53:10.239 --> 01:53:11.800 of Lee, and this is what we were told who 1985 01:53:11.920 --> 01:53:14.800 Lee Harvey Oswald was. And and so they they've really 1986 01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:17.960 i mean they've hit the files on Lee Harvey Oswald 1987 01:53:18.119 --> 01:53:22.079 for until twenty thirty nine, is when they originally wanted 1988 01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:27.399 to keep them all classified untill and you know now 1989 01:53:27.439 --> 01:53:29.640 that it's a lot of this is coming out, there's 1990 01:53:29.880 --> 01:53:31.720 a lot of that. But I mean I remember a 1991 01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:36.319 lot of films that were pro conspiracy, like throwing stuff 1992 01:53:36.680 --> 01:53:38.760 this stuff in growing up. I don't remember The Rock 1993 01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:43.359 where the Sean Connery where in the end, I think 1994 01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:46.239 Kevin Costner's character is like looking through the stuff that 1995 01:53:46.319 --> 01:53:48.039 he gets from this the spy guy. 1996 01:53:49.199 --> 01:53:52.439 La, do you want to know who Nicholas was? 1997 01:53:52.520 --> 01:53:53.239 Nicholas Cage. 1998 01:53:53.319 --> 01:53:55.119 Yeah, He's like, do you want to know who killed Kennedy? 1999 01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:55.880 Yeah? 2000 01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:56.960 Yeah, it was Nicholas Cage. 2001 01:53:57.079 --> 01:54:01.399 There was old and there's negatives of like eight millimeter 2002 01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:04.680 film that was hidden inside of a pew at a 2003 01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:10.159 random church somewhere in the country. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Wow, Yeah, 2004 01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:11.800 I remember that right at the end. 2005 01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:15.720 Clever dead drop. But yeah, it would be something like 2006 01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:18.520 that where there's a dead drop location that that there's 2007 01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.720 something in. But you know, a lot of the key 2008 01:54:22.119 --> 01:54:26.880 films from Daley Plaza were like destroyed or just confiscated. 2009 01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:32.119 It never surfaced, like I think Beverly Oliver was recording, 2010 01:54:32.399 --> 01:54:38.119 and also Gordon Arnold said, like the Secrets, a guy 2011 01:54:38.239 --> 01:54:42.920 identifying themselves as Secret Service took their film and never never, never, 2012 01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:45.800 they never saw it again, never heard of it again. 2013 01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:47.640 I think it was like two or three weeks ago, 2014 01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:51.479 probably about three weeks ago whenever, whenever the hell it 2015 01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:54.199 was is after the first full week of of those 2016 01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:57.800 those JFK files came out, we were talking about that 2017 01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:00.760 at the end towards the end of the week, my 2018 01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:04.000 buddy Jay was in here and we were he brought 2019 01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:07.840 up Beverly Oliver and he brought up the confiscated How 2020 01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:10.159 this is something that he would really love to see, 2021 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:14.399 is a release of all the confiscated film that was 2022 01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:17.680 Obviously there's no trace, there's not there, no mention of it. 2023 01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:22.439 So you know that all went into an incinerator somewhere because. 2024 01:55:22.439 --> 01:55:25.239 Yeah, they had the clearest photography of the knoll and 2025 01:55:25.640 --> 01:55:29.600 the assassination from the perspective of the knoll at that 2026 01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:31.680 close of an angle. So yeah, it was course that 2027 01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:35.319 they went and rounded up that the evidence right away 2028 01:55:35.359 --> 01:55:38.439 and had it destroyed. But what's crazy is is that 2029 01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:41.800 Beverly Oliver's shoes. Have you ever heard of her shoes? 2030 01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:43.479 She was standing right on the curb and if you 2031 01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:46.600 look in the Zuppruter film where you can see her standing, 2032 01:55:46.840 --> 01:55:49.199 she's like closest to the curb on the other side 2033 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:52.159 of the assassination, like closest to the president when when 2034 01:55:52.199 --> 01:55:54.840 the headshot actually takes place, So she would have got 2035 01:55:55.039 --> 01:55:58.640 all that on film. And she has her shoes have 2036 01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:01.199 this yellow paint on the bottom of them. You can 2037 01:56:01.319 --> 01:56:04.960 notice that the curb is just that curb is painted yellow, 2038 01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:07.720 and you go through like it's very hard to find 2039 01:56:07.800 --> 01:56:11.319 like color photographs of that ankle, the assassination and Indi 2040 01:56:11.399 --> 01:56:14.439 Lee Plaza. But somebody came the night before and painted 2041 01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:19.000 three of the curbs, just three of the curb markers 2042 01:56:19.319 --> 01:56:23.880 yellow with yellow marker paint. It was fresh, so and 2043 01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:28.439 those were right coordinated with where the shots, you know, happened. 2044 01:56:29.399 --> 01:56:32.279 So it's like it's like a timing mechanism. They didn't 2045 01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:35.000 have to announce the timing over shooting, you know, it's 2046 01:56:35.079 --> 01:56:38.800 like you know, announce it over a radio or anything. 2047 01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:41.520 So it's just right there in the plaza, which has 2048 01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:44.680 always been strange to me. If it was an assassination 2049 01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:47.199 by a lone nut and Oswald was in that window, 2050 01:56:48.039 --> 01:56:49.920 he would have shot the president when they were coming 2051 01:56:50.039 --> 01:56:53.520 right down Houston Street. That's that's the shot. I mean, 2052 01:56:53.800 --> 01:56:57.159 he's coming straight towards you. There's no escape but to 2053 01:56:57.239 --> 01:56:59.520 wait until he takes the turn onto Elm Street and 2054 01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:01.800 gets into at ambush zone, which is is just a 2055 01:57:01.880 --> 01:57:04.720 clear sniper shop. From the grassy knoll behind that white 2056 01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:07.479 picket fence, that's clearly where they took them out from 2057 01:57:07.760 --> 01:57:10.199 and then they could they had to see your cars. 2058 01:57:11.720 --> 01:57:13.720 Nick could have had a compartment in any one of 2059 01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:16.239 those vehicles just to stash a rifle real quick and 2060 01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:20.239 then just identify themselves as Secret Service agents. And nothing 2061 01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:21.239 happened in this area. 2062 01:57:21.279 --> 01:57:25.000 And you know, like, yeah, it would it would have 2063 01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:26.920 been it would have been a cinch to to just 2064 01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:31.079 to just have a second gunman or at least even 2065 01:57:31.119 --> 01:57:33.000 a third gunman there on the knoll. 2066 01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:35.279 And I don't know about all the other gunmen in 2067 01:57:35.319 --> 01:57:37.479 the assassination. The other people say there might have been 2068 01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:41.479 one on the other corner of the of the text. Well, yeah, 2069 01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:45.640 depository building. But again, the mechanics don't matter. What matters 2070 01:57:45.760 --> 01:57:48.319 is that the CIA has them power in the media 2071 01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:51.159 and Hollywood and everything else to be able to cover 2072 01:57:51.319 --> 01:57:54.760 this up for decades and decades and decades. 2073 01:57:55.680 --> 01:57:58.439 It's just to show you that again. 2074 01:57:58.279 --> 01:58:01.399 Again again though, Jeremy, what I was saying before you 2075 01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:04.039 came on is that I think it really goes to 2076 01:58:04.079 --> 01:58:06.840 show that what you needed back then more than anything 2077 01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:10.359 was trust. Uh, And there's a lot of trust that 2078 01:58:10.840 --> 01:58:15.319 the public had in in the media still at that time. 2079 01:58:15.479 --> 01:58:17.640 And of course, like you said, and who was running 2080 01:58:17.680 --> 01:58:20.560 the media and who was running this operation. It's a 2081 01:58:21.199 --> 01:58:23.720 it's a it's good. It's a it's a really good analysis. 2082 01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:23.880 There. 2083 01:58:23.920 --> 01:58:25.520 I have to get off right now though, because I'm 2084 01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:27.720 up against the clock. I'd love to. We got to 2085 01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:30.199 get you on again, just to do I love your 2086 01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:32.920 random stoppings, they're always illuminating, but we got to do 2087 01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:34.319 something efficiently after the show. 2088 01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:36.359 I'm gonna text you and let's let's let's think up. 2089 01:58:36.359 --> 01:58:39.399 We'll do uh, we'll do a show soon, man, Thank you. Awesome, awesome. 2090 01:58:39.399 --> 01:58:41.560 I'm gonna go back and listen to this. Uh this 2091 01:58:41.880 --> 01:58:42.680 Jay Dyer guy. 2092 01:58:42.920 --> 01:58:44.560 You got it. I think I think you like him 2093 01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:45.399 a lot. We'll talk soon. 2094 01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:47.439 All right, there you go. 2095 01:58:48.279 --> 01:58:51.600 That's the alien scientist Jeremy Reese. So that'll be fun. 2096 01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:54.239 We'd love to get Jeremy back on sometime soon. Well, listen, 2097 01:58:54.279 --> 01:58:57.039 it's eight fifty seven. I really appreciate you guys. Today 2098 01:58:57.279 --> 01:59:01.159 is Thursday, Tomorrow is Friday. I got this email about 2099 01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:02.920 last night. I'm not gonna be able to do right 2100 01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:05.119 now because we only got two minutes left, but I'll 2101 01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:07.520 save it for tomorrow and it'll be good because in 2102 01:59:07.560 --> 01:59:09.680 the first half we'll have comedian Mike bald went on 2103 01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:12.560 to do some weird news and eventually I want to 2104 01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:14.479 take your calls. We'll have some other fun there too. 2105 01:59:14.720 --> 01:59:17.600 Paul on quite Frankly superchat dot com says, Hey, Frankie, 2106 01:59:17.680 --> 01:59:20.560 remember the old story about the Raelian cult and the 2107 01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:25.880 first clone human? H I remember talking about the Rallians. 2108 01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:28.319 I will check that out. You know what, Paul, do 2109 01:59:28.399 --> 01:59:32.199 me a favor. Email me that link so I don't 2110 01:59:32.239 --> 01:59:34.520 lose it. Email me that link. Frank at quite Frankly 2111 01:59:34.600 --> 01:59:38.520 dot tv. There's a couple more super chats here real quick. Hey, 2112 01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:40.640 would you blow me? Says I hate that. I love you? 2113 01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:47.399 No quomo quoto good, don't pussy. Spud Hill says, cheers 2114 01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:49.680 appreciate you, brother, Well, I appreciate you. 2115 01:59:49.840 --> 01:59:50.279 I really do. 2116 01:59:50.680 --> 01:59:53.039 Thank you so much. And we've got a wonderful group 2117 01:59:53.079 --> 01:59:55.279 of people hanging out with us over there on bad 2118 01:59:55.399 --> 01:59:57.720 Lands as well. Mima Hunter says, Frank loves seeing you 2119 01:59:57.800 --> 02:00:00.800 expanding onto bad Lands. I love being here. Well, got 2120 02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:02.920 a lot of great friends here. There's a really wonderful, 2121 02:00:03.079 --> 02:00:07.079 robust schedule of people, and I'm happy to have Thursday 2122 02:00:07.119 --> 02:00:10.000 syndicated by them. Kid Billy seven, He says, glad to 2123 02:00:10.039 --> 02:00:11.840 see you here on bad Lands. That's how I found 2124 02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:14.359 your podcast, and I'm so happy that you joined. John 2125 02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:16.880 and crew, keep on keeping on. I can't wait to 2126 02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:20.800 have John on the show. He's been really wonderful to us. 2127 02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:25.000 Camcooksie says, I feel like the interview. I feel like 2128 02:00:25.039 --> 02:00:29.439 the interview. The interview was an op that Trump used 2129 02:00:29.560 --> 02:00:34.359 his advantage in the first term. The interview you're talking about, 2130 02:00:34.960 --> 02:00:41.079 Wait a second, the movie the interview is that the 2131 02:00:41.199 --> 02:00:46.279 North Korean one? Are we with? That really is hold 2132 02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:50.000 on to email the show and jog my memory on that, Camcookxie, 2133 02:00:50.319 --> 02:00:52.600 so I can have that into I can add that 2134 02:00:52.640 --> 02:00:54.840 into my notes for the next time. All right, real 2135 02:00:54.960 --> 02:00:57.039 quick over on quite frankly dot TV. Let me just 2136 02:00:57.079 --> 02:00:59.079 make sure I say everybody there and we are outye, 2137 02:01:00.000 --> 02:01:02.840 because I think what's coming up next on on bad 2138 02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:05.439 Land sit rep and then there's there's a lot of 2139 02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:07.600 great stuff going on quite frankly dot TV as well. 2140 02:01:07.680 --> 02:01:12.760 Thank you Robert Sarnes, Seve Blanche, Doug Simmy, neo, so 2141 02:01:13.159 --> 02:01:17.199 what's up there, girlfriend? And on Sir sys, great show, Frank, 2142 02:01:17.439 --> 02:01:20.840 thank you Doug Simmy throwing the shades down there coffee 2143 02:01:20.880 --> 02:01:24.000 talk with Sandras. It's happy Thursday. Same to you, Sandra, 2144 02:01:25.680 --> 02:01:28.119 good girl out there, Sandra one two three s KG 2145 02:01:28.279 --> 02:01:30.720 says the Wizard of Oz, which was scary to me. 2146 02:01:31.560 --> 02:01:32.720 Oh the witch was scary to you. 2147 02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:34.840 Yeah. 2148 02:01:35.279 --> 02:01:37.960 Who Then Margaret Hamilton, it's actually one of the nicest 2149 02:01:37.960 --> 02:01:39.640 women on the plate on the face of the planet. 2150 02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:46.239 If you read into her, she's one of the kindest 2151 02:01:46.279 --> 02:01:50.600 people ever that ever lived. But I'm sure she scared 2152 02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:52.520 a lot of kids when they were they were little. 2153 02:01:52.920 --> 02:01:55.000 And Sean Joe, thank you so much. Well, that's it 2154 02:01:55.119 --> 02:01:58.520 for me. It's nine o'clock, seven o'clock tomorrow and that 2155 02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:01.479 is the end of the official work week. Then, of course, 2156 02:02:01.560 --> 02:02:05.000 the unofficial work week continues on Saturday night, as we're 2157 02:02:05.039 --> 02:02:07.319 going to be doing a rumble only call in show 2158 02:02:07.439 --> 02:02:10.279 starting around nine pm. We are going to be doing 2159 02:02:10.520 --> 02:02:13.239 a it's probably gonna it's pretty much just gonna be 2160 02:02:13.239 --> 02:02:15.359 a night that we're opening up the Crazy Story hotline. 2161 02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:17.640 If you've got a crazy story to tell, think about 2162 02:02:17.680 --> 02:02:19.279 it from now, write it down you call in on 2163 02:02:19.359 --> 02:02:21.560 Saturday night. I don't know. We might only be live 2164 02:02:21.640 --> 02:02:26.000 for an hour. It's just a test see how things 2165 02:02:26.079 --> 02:02:31.239 go and uh and yes, thank you for everything, my friends, 2166 02:02:31.399 --> 02:02:33.640 Thank you Jay Dyer, thank you to all the callers, 2167 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.880 and I will talk to you soon. All right, good night, 2168 02:02:39.159 --> 02:02:40.720 I'll ktch you on the flip side. 2169 02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:52.720 White Brickley is film before a live studio audience, and 2170 02:02:52.880 --> 02:02:57.119 now our super Chatter is starting with Paul and Jay Britz. 2171 02:02:57.600 --> 02:03:00.479 And thank you to all of our Rumble ranters across Rumble. 2172 02:03:00.600 --> 02:03:03.199 You're fantastic again. Thank you to the wonderful people at 2173 02:03:03.279 --> 02:03:06.159 bad Lands. We're really loving it over here on Thursday nights. 2174 02:03:07.159 --> 02:03:08.039 And yeah, that's it. 2175 02:03:08.319 --> 02:03:12.359 I'm releasing the Scratch and everybody, enjoy yourself, clean your grasses, 2176 02:03:12.800 --> 02:03:14.079 keep your ass clean. 2177 02:04:18.920 --> 02:04:19.199 For you. 2178 02:04:23.479 --> 02:04:26.239 Will you shut up now,