Speaker 1: Oh Willow who also, and.
Speaker 2: Yes, good to be back man, don okay, so welcome, welcome,
Speaker 2: it's good to have you here.
Speaker 3: It is a Thursday night. It's a rainy Thursday at that.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be raining for the next but it looks
Speaker 3: to be next couple of days. I don't know. Te
Speaker 3: Ball is supposed to start on Saturday morning, but it
Speaker 3: looks like the whole day is going to be a wash.
Speaker 3: So hey, you know what, April showers bring May flowers.
Speaker 3: Huh does that happen still? Or have the flowers been
Speaker 3: pushed back to June? I forget, but thank you for
Speaker 3: being here. Tonight it's gonna be a good one. It
Speaker 3: is the tenth day of April, April tenth, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: at seven o'clock on the nose, seven oh one, depending
Speaker 3: on what you're using. And tonight we've got a couple
Speaker 3: of great things going on. Number one, it's just Thursday,
Speaker 3: and I love Thursday nights. It's a tradition of me
Speaker 3: loving Thursday nights. Jay Dyer is coming on. He's the
Speaker 3: guest of honor. He'll be with us in a few minutes.
Speaker 3: He's our guest this evening. Jay'sanalysis dot com. All of
Speaker 3: his links are in the description of this episode, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to do an intelligence Intelligence Service deep dive
Speaker 3: with him top ten operations known to the public and
Speaker 3: other things, especially time to expand into Hollywood, because not
Speaker 3: only is it closely related to intelligence service activity, but
Speaker 3: Jay is about to release another book on the subject soon.
Speaker 3: Esoteric Hollywood three is coming out soon. You can get
Speaker 3: it on pre order right now. And that's what we
Speaker 3: have there. Other than that, there is so much else happening,
Speaker 3: so much else happening. This right here, I'm playing off
Speaker 3: of the This is Kenobi Chasing Clouds, and I'm playing
Speaker 3: it off of the quite Frankly Spring Fever playlist that
Speaker 3: is included in this month's episode on not episode bulletin
Speaker 3: the April edition of the Quite Frankly Bulletin. You can
Speaker 3: get that in the description below, or it is archived
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Speaker 3: and if you just can't find it, email me. I'll
Speaker 3: send it right to you. You got to read the bulletins.
Speaker 3: They're so great, and we feature a lot of great
Speaker 3: stuff from the fans as well. I want to make
Speaker 3: a great announcement because of course tonight is Thursday, which
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Speaker 3: Let's get this one kicked off because we're gonna have
Speaker 3: Jay Dyer on the show with us in just a
Speaker 3: few minutes. It'll be a deep one. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: Every time that Jay comes by. Man, we just it
Speaker 3: can go in any direction, and it usually does. All right,
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Speaker 4: By the way, the definition of the word retard is
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Speaker 4: life is about to become retarded.
Speaker 5: Do you let one ant stand up to us, then
Speaker 5: they all might stand up.
Speaker 6: Those puny little ants outnumber us one hundred to one.
Speaker 6: And if they ever figure that out, there goes our
Speaker 6: way of life.
Speaker 7: It's not about food.
Speaker 6: It's about keeping those ants in line.
Speaker 4: That's why we're going back. Does anybody else want to stay?
Speaker 8: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, that was the pre show. This is the
Speaker 3: real show. Welcome one, Welcome all. So you know we're
Speaker 3: gonna be talking a lot about we'll be getting into
Speaker 3: movies tonight in a little bit. But there's a lot
Speaker 3: more that predates that. The influence, the powers that influenced
Speaker 3: the movies and everything else that goes along with our culture.
Speaker 3: But it's not even that, it's more. I mean, you
Speaker 3: think about what we've gotten just over the last couple
Speaker 3: of weeks alone with the Arc of the Covenant. I
Speaker 3: know that the the the Pyramids and all of those
Speaker 3: those satellite scans that opened up. You know, the conversation
Speaker 3: about what is going on two kilometers below the surface
Speaker 3: over there in Egypt is not CIA related. But we
Speaker 3: got a lot more on that. We got. We got
Speaker 3: talks about remote viewing, not only the Arc of the Covenant,
Speaker 3: but then there was also Mars. Of course that that
Speaker 3: brings in all of the past, the past stuff that
Speaker 3: we've learned from the Monroe Institute. We've also got this
Speaker 3: from the Pulse. A couple of weeks ago, some UFO
Speaker 3: abductions were simulated CIA psychological warfare experiments. What else did
Speaker 3: they do? Now, this one I'm definitely going to bring
Speaker 3: up when we have Timothy Alberina back on the show.
Speaker 3: Maybe that'll be in another Thursday Night. The picture above
Speaker 3: is of Joseph Allen Heinik, an American astronomer, professor and ufologist.
Speaker 3: Heinick acted as a scientific advisor to UFO studies undertaken
Speaker 3: by the US Air Force under three consecutive projects, Project Sign,
Speaker 3: Project Grudge, Project Blue Book nineteen fifty two to nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine. The man next to him is doctor Jacques Valais.
Speaker 3: So the roots run deep, my friends, they really do
Speaker 3: all over the place. That being said, I mentioned Mars before.
Speaker 3: I'll have a little bit more on that later on
Speaker 3: tonight too, because it's been getting around at Mars. It's
Speaker 3: been discovered by whatever means we're going to learn about it,
Speaker 3: that it has enough water for a one mile planetary
Speaker 3: wide ocean. You hear that water, Never seen it, never
Speaker 3: seen a drop in my life, but they found a
Speaker 3: lot of it. And this was a nineties the entire
Speaker 3: world would be at a standstill. But did this stuff
Speaker 3: just just not move the needle for anybody anymore? I
Speaker 3: don't think it moves the needle for Jay dye Er either.
Speaker 3: I don't think it does. We also have some more
Speaker 3: on this as far as cloning goes. I want to
Speaker 3: bring that up. I want to bring up all of
Speaker 3: the You know, when you talk about Hollywood, you can
Speaker 3: go into there's so many places where the road forks,
Speaker 3: and one of those places is celebrity cloning. I don't
Speaker 3: know if we're going to have enough time for that tonight,
Speaker 3: but I really love to bring it up because Jay
Speaker 3: was also a co host. He co hosted a few
Speaker 3: books book clubs with me. We did Brave New World.
Speaker 3: We did The Godfather together. I think those are the
Speaker 3: other two we did. But Brave New World was incredible
Speaker 3: because we really started breaking down and getting, you know,
Speaker 3: getting really well acquainted along with the audience that took
Speaker 3: part in it, with the genetic structure of that world,
Speaker 3: which of course was written by Aldous Huxley, and this
Speaker 3: was written as an apology. He was an apologist for
Speaker 3: that New World Order type. That wasn't It wasn't a
Speaker 3: a warning. It wasn't day Hey, listen, this is the
Speaker 3: this is the path we're on if we don't watch ourselves.
Speaker 3: This was a hey, this is what's going to get
Speaker 3: served up to you. And oh, well, well, we're coming
Speaker 3: up on one hundred years later, and boy, oh boy, oh.
Speaker 3: We had think about the headlines we had just in
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. Aside from the fact that
Speaker 3: we've have the first de extinction cloning resurrection clone of
Speaker 3: a dire Wolf, we have a follow up to all
Speaker 3: of those. What was it is? I think it was
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, probably one of the last times
Speaker 3: that Jay came on, to be honest, early twenty twenty
Speaker 3: four or late twenty twenty three, they were talking about
Speaker 3: these bags almost like latex bags that can act as
Speaker 3: artificial wombs or artificial placentas that they were trying to develop,
Speaker 3: at least for a certain point in gestation, these baby
Speaker 3: lambs in these little latex sacks or something like that
Speaker 3: in these laboratories, which, of course, all of the stated
Speaker 3: intention was that this would be there as options for
Speaker 3: premature babies to be incubated in a little bit more
Speaker 3: of a natural environment instead of outside of a mother,
Speaker 3: outside of the womb. And you know, there's some people
Speaker 3: that will applaud that, and I'm sure that options like
Speaker 3: this would be very, very helpful for in the future.
Speaker 3: But is it always the stated intent? Is the stated
Speaker 3: intent always?
Speaker 9: Really?
Speaker 3: What's going on? You earn back in twenty eighteen. I
Speaker 3: don't want to run into Jay here, He's going to
Speaker 3: be coming on any second here. But you remember, in
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen there's this from MIT, which is also the
Speaker 3: MIT technology reviews. Also, what's been talking about the brainless
Speaker 3: bodies that are coming our way, or at least that
Speaker 3: they want to be able to start growing brainless, soulless
Speaker 3: bodies that just essentially provide not only organs but meet Okay,
Speaker 3: this was twenty eighteen. Chinese scientists are creating crisper babies.
Speaker 3: A daring effort is underway to create the first children
Speaker 3: whose DNA has been tailored using gene editing. So to say, ohthough,
Speaker 3: you know, they were a long way off for humans
Speaker 3: and they were just doing this with dire wolves and
Speaker 3: dodo birds. It's bullshit. No, it's not happening. It's already happened.
Speaker 3: It's already happened, my friends. So I want to be
Speaker 3: able to just get a lot of this out on
Speaker 3: the table for you tonight, and Jay will be joining
Speaker 3: us in a little bit. The other thing I want
Speaker 3: to bring up, and I might bring it up first,
Speaker 3: is something that one of you guys had thrown my
Speaker 3: way during the coffee meeting on Monday morning on YouTube. Well,
Speaker 3: we had our Monday morning coffee meeting, which is open
Speaker 3: for all usually around eleven am. Haven't missed a Monday
Speaker 3: since we started it. So it's been kind of a
Speaker 3: set thing. But one of you guys through the Richard
Speaker 3: Day Tapes my way, and I remember them. I remember
Speaker 3: looking into them, and I think Jay had gone into
Speaker 3: them as well, which I think would be really interesting
Speaker 3: way to start all this off, because you want to
Speaker 3: talk about you want to talk about planning a society,
Speaker 3: how to then demolish and rebuild a society. That's something
Speaker 3: that I think is worthy of digging into. For those
Speaker 3: of you who don't know, here's a little bit of
Speaker 3: a background. The Richard Day Tapes, more formally known as
Speaker 3: the New Order of Barbarians Tapes, refers to a series
Speaker 3: of audio recordings made by doctor Lawrence Dunnigan in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty eight and nineteen ninety one. These recordings recount a
Speaker 3: lecturer that Dunnegan claims he attended on March twentieth, nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine, delivered by doctor Richard Day, a prominent physician
Speaker 3: and professor of pediatrics who was also involved with Planned parenthood.
Speaker 3: According to Dunnaghan, Day spoke to a group of medical
Speaker 3: professionals and students of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society, sharing what
Speaker 3: he presented as insider knowledge about a planned future for
Speaker 3: a society, orchestrated by a powerful group that he referred
Speaker 3: to as the new Order of Barbarians. Day allegedly asked
Speaker 3: attendees not to take notes or record the lectures, citing
Speaker 3: potential personal repercussions of his remarks became public. The content
Speaker 3: of the tapes outlined are wide ranging agenda purportedly designed
Speaker 3: to reshape society over decades. Dunnaghan recalled the day discussing
Speaker 3: topics such as population control, changes in medical care, societal restructuring,
Speaker 3: and the erosion of traditional values, all framed as part
Speaker 3: of a deliberate plan by an elite group. Here's a breakdown.
Speaker 3: Number one. Population Control Day allegedly predicted because these are
Speaker 3: all like most things of this nature, whether it be
Speaker 3: the Albert Pike letters or something else like that. Some
Speaker 3: people say it's true, it's others say there's no evidence
Speaker 3: and it's all myth. But just like the Albert Pike letters,
Speaker 3: the illuminati that outline the three world wars, it does
Speaker 3: say something that so far we are on track, and
Speaker 3: it's almost to the t the punctuation mark that things
Speaker 3: have been progressing. So they allegedly predicted measures to limit
Speaker 3: population growth. In growth including promoting smaller families to child maximums,
Speaker 3: making divorce easier and more common, encouraging euthanasia for the
Speaker 3: elderly deem no longer useful to society. I think a
Speaker 3: lot of that's been going on. Medical changes. They reportedly
Speaker 3: claim that healthcare would become prohibitively expensive, especially for the
Speaker 3: elderly and tied to employment status. He also mentioned that
Speaker 3: the intention the intentional introduction of new difficult to diagnose
Speaker 3: in untreatable diseases. Additionally, he suggested that cancer cures already
Speaker 3: existed in nineteen sixty nine, but war being withheld. With
Speaker 3: the information stored at the Rockefeller Institute, a lot of
Speaker 3: big name drops sometimes that makes people suspicious as well.
Speaker 3: Societal shifts. The Electure support supposedly included plans to destabilize
Speaker 3: traditional structures like marriage and religion. Homosexuality would be normalized
Speaker 3: and promoted, sex education would be used to influence youth.
Speaker 3: The Early Day allegedly said people would be conditioned to
Speaker 3: accept constant change as normal, making societal norms fluid and impermanent.
Speaker 3: Surveillance and technology Day is said to have foreseen a
Speaker 3: world where television would monitor viewers even when turned off,
Speaker 3: and a single banking system would eliminate physical money with
Speaker 3: all transactions tracked electronically, and cultural and behavioral manipulation. Fashion
Speaker 3: would become more provocative. Media would push sex and violence
Speaker 3: to desensitize people. Terrorism would increase globe creating fear and
Speaker 3: justifying control measures. Well, well, I'll be now again. I
Speaker 3: want to bring I want to bring this up to
Speaker 3: Jay Dyer. I was expecting him here seven minutes ago.
Speaker 3: Thankfully I had a lot of a lot of cushion
Speaker 3: up front to work with. But again, when we look
Speaker 3: at the published writings, the published works of someone like
Speaker 3: Alvis Huxley, he got it pretty good too. Makes you
Speaker 3: wonder if there is a game plan, if there always
Speaker 3: has been. And as it turns out, a lot of
Speaker 3: these people are publishing these things along the way, and
Speaker 3: it's almost like their own little cheerleading. They cheerlead each other.
Speaker 3: So we're going to be able to do a little
Speaker 3: bit more of this. When Jay comes back, I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna go check on him, to be honest, And in
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Speaker 3: Poof. Okay, everybody, so listen, we're gonna be taking a
Speaker 3: little bit of calls. We're gonna take some calls from
Speaker 3: you guys about whatever the hell you want until Jay
Speaker 3: shows up. So I like having everybody up front. That's
Speaker 3: what we're planning on doing. But until he shows up,
Speaker 3: we're just going to go right to the calls. Nine
Speaker 3: one four two hundred two sixty nine, give me a
Speaker 3: buzz nine one four, two hundred two sixty nine, And
Speaker 3: you're coming on the air with us, and I just
Speaker 3: want to hear what's going on with you, how you're
Speaker 3: seeing things out there. And the other thing there too
Speaker 3: that we can talk about is, of course the content
Speaker 3: the table of contents for j and his in his book,
Speaker 3: which I think is great because there's a couple of
Speaker 3: things in here that I'd really love to talk to
Speaker 3: him about, a couple of titles in here I really
Speaker 3: love to talk to him about. He's got an entire
Speaker 3: section on Christopher Nolan. One in particular I wanted to
Speaker 3: bring up was The Prestige, one of my favorite films
Speaker 3: really is, and again and again, what is pulled from
Speaker 3: all this? What is pulled from all this? There's also
Speaker 3: somebody out there. His name is Tim, and he sent
Speaker 3: in a couple of these PSAs, these old school PSAs,
Speaker 3: and wanted to know if Jay. But I was also
Speaker 3: thinking that this would be a great, a great bit
Speaker 3: for Mike Baldwin tomorrow night, if these old television PSAs
Speaker 3: were worthwhile for America's health, if they actually did anything
Speaker 3: at all. Did you guys, ever, do you guys remember this,
Speaker 3: this myth, this p s A for methanmphetamine. I don't
Speaker 3: remember it. I remember the the eggs frying on the
Speaker 3: the frying on the frying pan. I remember a few
Speaker 3: other let's see here. I remember all the out the
Speaker 3: marijuana ones. Those are great. Take a look at the
Speaker 3: meth commercial. Look at me, busy as a bee. Where'd
Speaker 3: I get all this senergy?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 12: Man, I don't sleep.
Speaker 3: I don't remember this. The cleanest house.
Speaker 1: On the street.
Speaker 3: This has got this. This has got to be like
Speaker 3: kids in the hall or something. Is this for real?
Speaker 3: Because I thought I remembered all of these things.
Speaker 13: Get these hairs all out of my face, Get these
Speaker 13: bugs all out of my place.
Speaker 1: One more hit, no time.
Speaker 14: Two Waist.
Speaker 3: Office of the National Drug Policy partner with the Drug
Speaker 3: free America. I'd see. I can see that being true.
Speaker 3: Like sometimes we're just abrasive with the messaging in the nineties,
Speaker 3: and that looks like a nineteen ninety four kind of
Speaker 3: a feel right there. Here's the other one, and I
Speaker 3: can't wait to show these to Mike Baldwin tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 3: see the other ones that are out there. This is
Speaker 3: uh I remember this one. I learned it by watching you. Dad.
Speaker 3: You want to talk about cultural norms and messaging.
Speaker 15: Yours?
Speaker 3: No, I must have had you found it in your closet.
Speaker 7: I don't know when a guide was lost of what
Speaker 7: look that it's now?
Speaker 13: Did you get it?
Speaker 3: Got to answer me? Who taught you how to do
Speaker 3: this stuff?
Speaker 12: You are right?
Speaker 8: I learned it by watching you.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 9: Use drugs? Have children who use drugs? Well?
Speaker 3: Wait a second, I want to look inside of this
Speaker 3: box here? Okay, what's in there?
Speaker 6: See?
Speaker 3: How could how would you see? The thing that's funny
Speaker 3: to me is how would the father be surprised? He's
Speaker 3: obviously he didn't know that his son is watching him
Speaker 3: roll joints? Or is there something else in there? And
Speaker 3: if it's more than that, then was he really doing
Speaker 3: it in front of the kid the whole time. It's you,
Speaker 3: all right. I can imagine that being for like your
Speaker 3: curse words. I heard you, I heard I heard Dad
Speaker 3: use that language. I heard I saw Dad use the marijuana. Anyway,
Speaker 3: these are something that I actually liked back then. I
Speaker 3: think it's better than the drug wars that we used
Speaker 3: that we still run and we still wage. I like
Speaker 3: the messaging that it's fun. It creates conversation, it creates
Speaker 3: memes for years and years to come, and of course
Speaker 3: it doesn't empower the cartels, which is what it usually
Speaker 3: usually what happens at the end of some of these
Speaker 3: uh these drug wars. Here but here we go. Now
Speaker 3: we're back on track, ladies and gentlemen, so we can
Speaker 3: joining us right now for the first time since I
Speaker 3: think December. Author comedian host of The Alex Jones Show's
Speaker 3: Fourth Hour, Jay Dyer Jason Aalysis, how are you, sir.
Speaker 11: Good man? Glad to be back with you.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 11: I lost the link.
Speaker 7: I had a flood of muscage messages on Twitter and
Speaker 7: I had to go and find where it was.
Speaker 3: Damn. So I'm sorry. Well, I should have kicked it
Speaker 3: up to the top or something. Anyway, Well, it's good
Speaker 3: to have you on. You've been very busy lately. It's
Speaker 3: always great to see you do well. And not only that,
Speaker 3: but you have Esoteric Hollywood Part one and two books
Speaker 3: that I own. But it is soon going to be
Speaker 3: become a trilogy. When has part three officially come out?
Speaker 7: Well, we don't have a sad date. Yeah, but I
Speaker 7: mean it's going to be in the next couple of months,
Speaker 7: so it's gonna be soon.
Speaker 3: It's on pre order on Amazon, though, right because I
Speaker 3: saw that.
Speaker 11: Oh I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3: Well, then maybe I saw the wrong thing.
Speaker 7: But well, it may be on there pre order, but
Speaker 7: don't pre order from Amazon. Pre order from the website when.
Speaker 3: I get that up there, Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 7: Well any way, otherwise you're just giving money to Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 3: Right right. Ultimately you know more about my book.
Speaker 16: Than I do, so.
Speaker 3: At this point I do. But we'll see because I
Speaker 3: have a table of contents that you sent me and
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about that in a bit.
Speaker 3: But first I before you were you came in, I
Speaker 3: was reading a little bit about the Richard Day tapes
Speaker 3: again and somebody had brought it up in a chat
Speaker 3: room for a stream I was doing earlier on in
Speaker 3: the week, and they suggested I talked to you about it,
Speaker 3: and they jogged my memory because I remember you bringing
Speaker 3: these up. And unless I'm remembering wrong, what do you
Speaker 3: know about the Richard Day tapes again? And are are
Speaker 3: they real? Because I know, like for for things like this,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who say yay, they say nay,
Speaker 3: what it's your take on the whole thing.
Speaker 7: I think they're real because I did go and verify
Speaker 7: that that guy really was the head of Planned Parenthood
Speaker 7: back at the time. Everything in those lectures that was
Speaker 7: recorded by one of the participants in the event does
Speaker 7: affirm pretty much what's happened in the world. So you know,
Speaker 7: the last twenty thirty forty years lines up with maybe
Speaker 7: not every single thing, but a lot of what was
Speaker 7: in the Day tape. So I think that we could
Speaker 7: surmise that it was a very accurate retelling and recounting
Speaker 7: of what they had planned in terms of rocket Color
Speaker 7: foundation and sort of reorganizing society in terms of depopulation, Malthusianism,
Speaker 7: various you know, medical procedures.
Speaker 3: Shall we say, yeah, all.
Speaker 7: Those things are mentioned as things that should be promoted planned,
Speaker 7: and even things like social disintegration and pressure from above,
Speaker 7: pressure from below, which are different strategies for causing kind
Speaker 7: of social chaos to you know, problem reaction solution bring
Speaker 7: in the answer.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 3: I remember we were talking about this a lot around
Speaker 3: the time that we were doing Brave New World together,
Speaker 3: and that's probably going to pomp up a couple of
Speaker 3: times along the way with our talk tonight, because it's
Speaker 3: one of those things where what I learned from you
Speaker 3: when we came together to read the book and analyze
Speaker 3: the book is that most people growing up when we
Speaker 3: read either you know, nineteen eighty four or any of
Speaker 3: George Orwell's stuff or Huxley, most people think it's a
Speaker 3: warning about a future that could be from somebody who
Speaker 3: actually wants to prevent it. And I learned it it
Speaker 3: was actually an apologetic and these are things that have
Speaker 3: been in many ways laid out in kind of creepy ways.
Speaker 3: And even though, like I even mentioned the the Albert
Speaker 3: Pike letters, there's a lot of discussion whether or not
Speaker 3: those are real, whether or not they're real or it's
Speaker 3: when you look at the chronology of four told events
Speaker 3: of three World Wars. There's a lot that make you think, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I.
Speaker 7: Don't really put a whole lot of stock in those letters.
Speaker 7: They seem to be a little much, you know. I
Speaker 7: think the dating is weird with the terminology, but even still,
Speaker 7: I mean kind of what's in there, loosely speaking, kind
Speaker 7: of matches up to I think what the technocrats have
Speaker 7: planned for a global governance, for an integrated world federation,
Speaker 7: you know, a socialist EU style structure that the rest
Speaker 7: of the world would then have, and we're seeing right now,
Speaker 7: for example, in England. You know, Kure Starmer is an
Speaker 7: open Fabian socialist. I've been talking about Fabian socialism for many,
Speaker 7: many years, over a decade, and that's sort of what
Speaker 7: they wanted to roll out in the EU and in
Speaker 7: the UK especially and then reintegrate and reorganize society on
Speaker 7: that basis. I think that you know, what we're seeing
Speaker 7: over there is kind of what they would like to
Speaker 7: do in North America probably all the continents as well,
Speaker 7: if they can get you know, all their agenda through.
Speaker 3: Would anything in the Richard Day tapes fall under specific
Speaker 3: operations that you listed in your your top ten, because
Speaker 3: I would love to go through those soon. But since
Speaker 3: this came up, I figure I just throw it into
Speaker 3: the mix to start us off.
Speaker 11: Said that again, do anything that was.
Speaker 3: In the richer Day tapes does any of that operation?
Speaker 3: Does that fall under any Does any of the stuff
Speaker 3: in those tapes fall under any specific operation out of
Speaker 3: the ten for say, per se that you that you listed,
Speaker 3: I listed, yeah, or it's just like sprays its just
Speaker 3: let me my list out here, I got here.
Speaker 7: I don't know that anything would be a direct necessary parallel,
Speaker 7: except that the Rockefeller Foundation plays a key role in
Speaker 7: the strand, the planning and strategies of the day you
Speaker 7: know discussions and the origins of the CIA and the
Speaker 7: USS do directly relate to the Rockefeller family and what
Speaker 7: they pretty much funded and helped to establish. Dad Rockfeller
Speaker 7: brags about that in his memoirs. For example, he himself,
Speaker 7: by the way, he used to be an intelligence operative
Speaker 7: in the Army when he was younger. So I would say,
Speaker 7: if anything, elements of MK Ultra I think played into
Speaker 7: the Day tapes, because even though the day discussions were
Speaker 7: not about mind control operators and that kind of stuff,
Speaker 7: the research that was derived from a lot of the
Speaker 7: mk Ultra studies dealt with social engineering and social control,
Speaker 7: so that could be one element of it. Paper Clip
Speaker 7: is possible too, because of course paper Clip is nineteen
Speaker 7: forty five to nineteen fifty nine, and that involved importing
Speaker 7: a lot of the Tiny Mustache Men higher ups and
Speaker 7: trying to, you know, derive a lot of their engineering
Speaker 7: scientific knowledge for the US and for the West. And
Speaker 7: so I would imagine a lot of the ideas about genetics,
Speaker 7: genetic modification, breeding, breeding science, Malfusianism, dysgenics. Probably a lot
Speaker 7: of that came from some of the paper Clip people,
Speaker 7: and that would have overlapped with the day tapes and
Speaker 7: maybe just loosely some of the others, but I think
Speaker 7: for the most part those would be the most relevant
Speaker 7: to the day tapes.
Speaker 3: Well, you brought up two out of the ten. Paper
Speaker 3: Clip was that's been in the news recently with all
Speaker 3: the Argentina stuff, that there might be a declassification of
Speaker 3: some of Tiny Mustache Man's vacation plans. And then also
Speaker 3: mk Ultra as well, we heard about remote also remote
Speaker 3: viewing of the Arc of the Covenant, the CIA faking
Speaker 3: alien abductions that's been published about again recently, and then
Speaker 3: I saw you put out this top ten. I said, bingo,
Speaker 3: so let's tie it all together, paper Clip, mk Ultra.
Speaker 3: What are the other eight I'd love to get through
Speaker 3: some of those.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't put these in any definite order. They're
Speaker 7: just kind of the top ten that I picked out
Speaker 7: of twenty that are declassified, so all twenty are pretty wild.
Speaker 7: And then I tried to kind of just randomly pick
Speaker 7: the ones that I thought were the top ten, but
Speaker 7: in no specific orders. So of course we have mk Ultra,
Speaker 7: which is probably the most famous up there with perhaps
Speaker 7: paper Clip. And this is the dozens of universe cities,
Speaker 7: dozens of academic institutions that were intent upon basically studying
Speaker 7: the human psyche and mastering it and then sort of
Speaker 7: exporting that ideology into mass formation psychosis, you know, psychological engineering.
Speaker 7: And we can find parallels, for example, with World War
Speaker 7: two era psychological warfare theorists like Juice Merlo. We did
Speaker 7: a lecture through his entire book. He was a World
Speaker 7: War two psychological warfare excerpt for the Allies and he
Speaker 7: wrote on that topic. There's also Operation Mockingbird from the
Speaker 7: forties to the seventies, and this is of course the
Speaker 7: CAA buying off journalists throughout the Cold War to make
Speaker 7: sure that the journalists is about four or five hundred
Speaker 7: throughout the world. Would repeat the CIA line. That doesn't
Speaker 7: mean that I think that Soviets were the good guys,
Speaker 7: are the unpro communists.
Speaker 11: But throughout that period you do have.
Speaker 7: The subversion of journalism from the forties all the way
Speaker 7: to the seventies, and it was a pretty widespread program.
Speaker 7: And I would say that even though this this program
Speaker 7: Mockingbird end of the nineteen seventies, we have the same
Speaker 7: analog to that with like Mockingbird two point zero, with
Speaker 7: all of the you know, big players and big entities,
Speaker 7: you know, shutting down social media, you know, censoring and
Speaker 7: banning social media that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: What about what about Hollywood in itself, because of course
Speaker 3: news media being in every newsroom in the country and
Speaker 3: that that's that's one thing. But when was it was it? Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, we hear about Independence Day or Close Encounters
Speaker 3: the Third kind or anything else like that, where there
Speaker 3: this is an era where when you start talking about
Speaker 3: and putting movies out there about sensitive subjects, about whether
Speaker 3: it be an extraterrestrial life or high technology or anything
Speaker 3: like that. There's usually some sort of a government attasha
Speaker 3: that's there to to give you all of the ins
Speaker 3: and outs to make it more believable, but to also
Speaker 3: not to give people too much. We heard about that.
Speaker 3: When did that become from your research? A little bit more?
Speaker 3: A little bit more, I don't know, I would say normal.
Speaker 7: Well, one of the projects that would relate to that
Speaker 7: would be projects Stargate, because even though Stargate is not
Speaker 7: explicitly about aliens, the idea was that from nineteen seventy
Speaker 7: eight to nineteen ninety five they would be studying the occult,
Speaker 7: so it wasn't just remote viewing. They were studying all
Speaker 7: kinds of different techniques. If you watch the movie Minister
Speaker 7: at Goats, that's kind of based on this type of
Speaker 7: project where the Army, the Central Research Institute, First Earth Battalion,
Speaker 7: they were looking into all these different mentalism and psychic
Speaker 7: abilities and telekinesis and remote viewing and astral projection and
Speaker 7: possibly also things relating to LSD hallucinogens and if you
Speaker 7: combine that with Gateway Process, which was also declassified not
Speaker 7: too long I think it's from the early eighties. This
Speaker 7: talks about transittal meditation, it talks about biofeedback, biohacking, meditation
Speaker 7: and so forth to achieve you know, these esoteric enlightened states,
Speaker 7: and could this be weaponized and could we create size spies?
Speaker 7: And the Soviets even had their own size spy programs,
Speaker 7: So there was kind of a mirror project going on
Speaker 7: in the Cold War with the Soviets doing their size
Speaker 7: spies and the West, the CIA, doing their size spies.
Speaker 7: And I think that a lot of that, maybe even inadvertently,
Speaker 7: does tie into like the UFO phenomenon, because a lot
Speaker 7: of the people who would be doing these meditation sessions
Speaker 7: and these LSD type studies and research or DMT the
Speaker 7: float tanks, you know with John Z Lilly, they would
Speaker 7: think they were contacting beings and entities. So a lot
Speaker 7: of times they did, oh, this is the aliens, right,
Speaker 7: So they would just to make a one to one
Speaker 7: assumption that the beings that they're contacting must be the
Speaker 7: same as the beings that are happening throughout the FOO
Speaker 7: fighter UFO phenomena. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's
Speaker 7: I mean, I think there is overlap, and I think
Speaker 7: that the whole, the whole UFO phenomenon pretty much comes
Speaker 7: out of all this MK ultra research.
Speaker 11: You know, they want to give they want to.
Speaker 7: Give everybody a new ideology in the West and in
Speaker 7: the world, a new religion.
Speaker 3: I guess we could just jump right there real quick.
Speaker 3: Then then perhaps we can go back to and it
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be the ten that you picked. It
Speaker 3: could be any of the crazy twenty, because I'd love
Speaker 3: to hear a little bit more of this. Is that
Speaker 3: it's a review, but there's also some stuff I had
Speaker 3: forgotten about or never heard about at all. But when
Speaker 3: it comes to intelligence services in the space programs, a
Speaker 3: lot of esoteric background. There no doubt paper Clip had
Speaker 3: been brought up again, like I said with the Argentina News,
Speaker 3: and of course paper Clip was the lifeblood of the
Speaker 3: space race. But when it comes to the NASA base
Speaker 3: syop theories, they are a plenty. And I just wonder,
Speaker 3: because you know, I never talked about this, but just
Speaker 3: the nature of this to begin with, like the nature
Speaker 3: of space in general, I don't know what your take
Speaker 3: on the whole thing is. Have we even been to space,
Speaker 3: do you believe?
Speaker 7: I mean, I would definitely think that there are satellites,
Speaker 7: and probably there is the ability to go into low
Speaker 7: Earth orbit. I'm pretty much a skeptic about a lot
Speaker 7: of other stuff. I think NASA was in some way
Speaker 7: a kind of affront to cover for Cold War stuff.
Speaker 7: But and probably they were erecting a lot of the
Speaker 7: global spying infrastructure. As my view as to what they
Speaker 7: were doing in Cold War under the cover of NASA
Speaker 7: and space, I think they were setting up like the
Speaker 7: Star Wars Defense Initiative and that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 7: but I mean beyond that, I don't really I mean,
Speaker 7: I think a lot of the space stuff was just
Speaker 7: Cold War propaganda. I don't have any set opinions on
Speaker 7: the structure of the universe or how it works or
Speaker 7: what's really going I have no idea what's really going
Speaker 7: on out there, So I'm an agnostic skeptic on those
Speaker 7: kinds of questions. But I do think that there's a
Speaker 7: pretty deep rabbit hole that you can go down when
Speaker 7: it comes to you know, NASA during the Cold War
Speaker 7: and how well it functioned as a kind of a
Speaker 7: propaganda tool. But as to how advanced these space tech
Speaker 7: really is, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: What do you think about other things like you may
Speaker 3: have not even dipped in into this at all, but
Speaker 3: it's very hard to miss these things if you're spending
Speaker 3: any considerable amount of time on the Internet. But things
Speaker 3: like the Challenger disaster in nineteen eighty six, there's a
Speaker 3: really compelling theory that a lot of those astronauts, if
Speaker 3: not all of them, are still alive and have been
Speaker 3: under assumed identities as teachers and whatever since then. I
Speaker 3: see the pictures, the side by sides. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they're real, but they're of course, like on everything,
Speaker 3: there's a split. And given all of the NASA based
Speaker 3: psyop theories that are out there, that was one of
Speaker 3: the one that was one of the really compelling ones
Speaker 3: that I always want to know a little bit more about.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if that was something that ever tickled
Speaker 3: your fancy.
Speaker 7: I'm familiar with this theory in this analysis, I don't
Speaker 7: know a whole lot about what the truth is. I mean,
Speaker 7: I could see large scale kind of deception at that level.
Speaker 7: And one of the next programs I was going to
Speaker 7: mention actually does include large scale deception, and that's Operation
Speaker 7: north Woods, which was a nineteen sixty two program that
Speaker 7: would stage a giant fake flag event. It included fake
Speaker 7: news stories to go along with the event. It included drones,
Speaker 7: it included an airplane full of dead bodies, and this
Speaker 7: is going to be a fake trr our event blamed
Speaker 7: on Cuba. And it was signed off by LL Linitzer,
Speaker 7: who was formerly the Joint Chieve Staff I think under
Speaker 7: Kennedy and then he was also the Supreme Allied Commander
Speaker 7: of NATO.
Speaker 3: But that's a big one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was the one proposing north Woods. They didn't
Speaker 7: actually go with it, but what it shows us is
Speaker 7: that they've had these large scale style ops and psyops
Speaker 7: for a while a long time that you know, and
Speaker 7: this is just kind of basic military deception techniques. So
Speaker 7: it's possible. I don't know what the motive or the
Speaker 7: advantage would be to staging the shuttle blowing up event.
Speaker 7: I would be interested to know what the what they
Speaker 7: gained from that if it was a outside the realm
Speaker 7: of possibility, given the fact that north Woods exists.
Speaker 3: For sure, And perhaps when we open up the lines
Speaker 3: for calls later on, we'll see if something comes through
Speaker 3: and I'll uh, I'll let you know what comes in
Speaker 3: it that because that'd be interesting so north Woods, let's
Speaker 3: do two more, because I'd love to if there's anything
Speaker 3: in there that's obscure but really interesting that people should
Speaker 3: know about, that'd be awesome because then I want to
Speaker 3: move on to some of the stuff that's in esoteric
Speaker 3: Hollywood three, because there's a lot of overlap between these
Speaker 3: intelligence services and the messaging that's going out to common
Speaker 3: viewing audiences, so that this is going to be a
Speaker 3: good one. Oh do you want to do two more?
Speaker 11: You cut out? I'm sorry?
Speaker 10: What was Oh?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? No, I said after we to do two
Speaker 3: more of these? Uh, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, and then
Speaker 3: we'll go into Hollywood three.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was just pulling up my list of the I
Speaker 7: don't even remember all the contents, and there's somehow I
Speaker 7: got to pull up the table of contest to remember it.
Speaker 7: But so let's say we did Northwood's. Next would be
Speaker 7: paper Cliff.
Speaker 8: We did that.
Speaker 11: Next one is we did Stargate.
Speaker 3: I mentioned that, so you know what Jay with Stargate
Speaker 3: with Stargate because you and I did a lot on Gladio.
Speaker 3: But I want to ask you about some psychological stuff.
Speaker 3: I know that in the past when you were on
Speaker 3: the show you had mentioned that in you know, earlier
Speaker 3: on in life you had you have done some psychedelics.
Speaker 3: Is that that's true, right? You said that, right?
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well I was a teenager, right exactly so.
Speaker 3: And now obviously you your your life has taken you
Speaker 3: into so many different places, and you are a leading
Speaker 3: voice online for Orthodox Christianity, and and I really appreciate
Speaker 3: all of you know, everything you tie together. I think
Speaker 3: it's really interesting that you have that background of that
Speaker 3: that type of experience. Do you look at any of
Speaker 3: those experiences, having you know, done those you know, taking
Speaker 3: hallucinogens in the past, is there anything that ever hinted
Speaker 3: at you that this was more than just a trick
Speaker 3: of the mind or is there a spiritual element to things?
Speaker 3: Do you feel that you were in that state opened
Speaker 3: up or maybe vulnerable to something other than just what
Speaker 3: the mind produces under the influence of psilocybin or something
Speaker 3: else like that, or is there actually a spiritual element
Speaker 3: to these substances?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 7: Well, Stargate was the one I mentioned about remote viewing,
Speaker 7: so you know, it kind of overlaps with a lot
Speaker 7: of the stuff that mk LTRA was interested in, including
Speaker 7: the research into the entheagens and the hallucinogens, and yeah,
Speaker 7: my own experience, I had a bad trip the first
Speaker 7: time I did it, and I felt like that was
Speaker 7: definitely demonic looking back on it. There was communication with
Speaker 7: some kind of being an entity that was just a
Speaker 7: point of light.
Speaker 11: And that was when I was about.
Speaker 7: Seventeen or eighteen, and I did acid maybe four or
Speaker 7: five more times after that. So that was pretty much
Speaker 7: the extent of my hallucinogen trials so speak. I mean,
Speaker 7: it wasn't trials. We're just idiot teenagers partying, so but
Speaker 7: you know, I'm liking it too, like an mk ultra
Speaker 7: type experiment. But the other experiences weren't bad trips. They
Speaker 7: were just kind of goofy silly times. But the first
Speaker 7: time was definitely a bad trip. And I do think
Speaker 7: that you can't have those opening up experiences where you
Speaker 7: do experience something like that. I would not recommend that.
Speaker 7: In fact, I've always been opposed to those things ever since,
Speaker 7: you know, my youth coming out of that stuff. So
Speaker 7: I've never gone back and done any illucinogen's never had
Speaker 7: the desire to do it. I think it's really dangerous
Speaker 7: something something that people shouldn't play with. But that's a
Speaker 7: pretty common type of experience with d MT, with these
Speaker 7: various you know, high powered tollucinogens. People you know, go
Speaker 7: out of body and they see the d MT clockwork
Speaker 7: elves and they see the you know, the gods and
Speaker 7: the beings and the entities. And the thing about that
Speaker 7: is that they usually tell people a false message. You know,
Speaker 7: they usually say something like, we're here to help you.
Speaker 7: If you, you know, listen to us, we can solve
Speaker 7: earths problems. You got to depopulate, you need a world government,
Speaker 7: you got to have a New Age religion. So you
Speaker 7: get the same kind of demonic I would say influence,
Speaker 7: and I don't I don't see how you could explain
Speaker 7: it or why that would be there if there wasn't
Speaker 7: a spiritual basis underlying these phenomena these experiences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's become very it's a very very important
Speaker 3: cultural point too when it comes to especially movies. Obviously, well,
Speaker 3: you can read all you want about MK Ultra. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a little bit more on Charles Manson that's been
Speaker 3: coming out lately, some threads that have been put out
Speaker 3: that I think were really interesting, and how much control
Speaker 3: was there? What what's the what was the whitey Bulger?
Speaker 3: We were learning a lot about these.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was part of m culture in prison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And there's so much of this here too.
Speaker 3: It be mind control or whether it be just using
Speaker 3: these substances to to break a person and to help
Speaker 3: make them disassociate in some way that can. So I
Speaker 3: just thought that is really an interesting background for somebody
Speaker 3: like you where you are right now, to have had
Speaker 3: those experiences so early on, and I just never asked
Speaker 3: you what you concluded from them, whether it was just
Speaker 3: a goofy time or if you thought that, no, there
Speaker 3: there was a doorway that you can that you can
Speaker 3: access through this and it's probably one to stay away
Speaker 3: from if you can.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's that's what you know, opening that third
Speaker 7: eye or you know what what the occult or the yoga,
Speaker 7: the kundalini, all that kind of stuff I think is
Speaker 7: hitting at similar things, and it's not necessarily a good thing.
Speaker 7: I don't I don't think you should do that kind
Speaker 7: of stuff. I think the people who are you know,
Speaker 7: in saying the Orthodox Church, yet people are spiritually advanced
Speaker 7: and they have, you know, experiences of experiencing God directly.
Speaker 7: I guess you could say that kind of stuff that's
Speaker 7: kind of when you're at an advanced spiritual state, you
Speaker 7: don't try to induce it through shortcut means of drugs
Speaker 7: and stuff. So that's that's what I think I learned
Speaker 7: as I've gotten older, is that a lot of that thing,
Speaker 7: a lot of that stuff that dupes young people is
Speaker 7: they think they're kind of going to kind of get
Speaker 7: like a shortcut to spiritual enlightenment through these kinds of substances,
Speaker 7: a lot of the you know, psychedelic bros. And that
Speaker 7: sphere of stuff, and I really think it's all just
Speaker 7: kind of a delusion, and it's also dangerous, you know,
Speaker 7: opening up yourself to spiritual forces and deception.
Speaker 3: Well, this is why I wanted to talk to you
Speaker 3: about at least two off the bat movies that you
Speaker 3: have listed in the table of contents for Hollywood Esoteric
Speaker 3: Hollywood three, and both of them are Christopher Nolan films.
Speaker 3: And one of my favorites is The Prestige. We'll get
Speaker 3: to that in just a second. But the other one
Speaker 3: that I well, the second one was actually not the
Speaker 3: Christopher Nolan film. It was the Fountain. Yeah, and this now,
Speaker 3: I'm glad you have this on your list. A friend
Speaker 3: of mine suggested this movie to me years ago. Got
Speaker 3: Hugh Jackman Rachel Weiss in it, and it combines themes
Speaker 3: of immortality, these two souls bonded through multiple lifetimes. But
Speaker 3: on a simpler level, it's more there's a lot of
Speaker 3: about acceptance of loss, soaking up relatively short time you
Speaker 3: have with people you love and all that. But it's
Speaker 3: bitterly sad, but at the same time it's gorgeous. And
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm curious to you about what came through
Speaker 3: to you on this one, because it is like a one.
Speaker 3: It is one big trip, and I there's things that
Speaker 3: make me unsettled about it, and I just want to
Speaker 3: see what you articulate first on that one.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's an interesting movie.
Speaker 7: It's Darren Aronofsky, who is kind of admittedly somewhat of
Speaker 7: a cobbylist. You know, I think amongst directors, you have
Speaker 7: a handful of directors that are kind of well own
Speaker 7: that are pretty openly esoteric, occultic type practitioner followers, believers.
Speaker 7: You've got ari astor to some degree. Who did you
Speaker 7: know Midsommar and Hereditary. You've got Darren Aronofsky who's into Kabbala.
Speaker 7: He did Pie Noah black Swan, and then he did
Speaker 7: The Fountain, and there's a couple others like Robert Eggers
Speaker 7: that did The Witch and no Saratu, and they're all
Speaker 7: pretty openly interested in the occult. But I think that
Speaker 7: in this film he's tying Native American mythology Aztec Inca
Speaker 7: Mia mythology into the idea of the tree of life
Speaker 7: in the garden, and it's combined with Buddhist philosophy and thought,
Speaker 7: and it's combined with reincarnation, perhaps from the Kabbala or
Speaker 7: from Eastern mysticism. It's hard to say, but I think
Speaker 7: all of those kind of are wrapped up in this
Speaker 7: idea that your soulmate perhaps is what completes you, and
Speaker 7: that you're going to go through these life cycles until
Speaker 7: you find that complement to your personality and to who
Speaker 7: you are, and then that's what helps you to achieve
Speaker 7: the sort of nirvana state or whatever it is. But
Speaker 7: I did like the way that the film, just on
Speaker 7: a cinematic level and in a symbolic way, the way
Speaker 7: it's done, I think it's an interesting film, so that's
Speaker 7: why I included it in the analysis, was that there's
Speaker 7: not a whole lot of films that have, you know,
Speaker 7: philosophical symbolical depth, so it needed to be in there.
Speaker 7: And it's from a couplistic director, so that's why I
Speaker 7: put the film there.
Speaker 3: You know, I when it comes to move like that,
Speaker 3: and I like it. It's one of those movies where
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things I would watch
Speaker 3: maybe once every ten years, because it's just it takes
Speaker 3: a lot out of you, especially with the sick wife,
Speaker 3: and there's just so many things happening there. But I
Speaker 3: think the thing that really makes me uncomfortable is the
Speaker 3: depiction of space, the space in between worlds or what
Speaker 3: comes after death or in this case, what comes in
Speaker 3: between lives, and it's always so it makes me feel
Speaker 3: so it's surreal, and it's isolating in that surreal feeling
Speaker 3: as well, it's almost like it almost like it's a
Speaker 3: form of hell in and of itself because you're always alone.
Speaker 3: The main character is always alone, he's always struggling through something.
Speaker 3: There's nobody there, Whereas at the end of a movie
Speaker 3: like Ghost with Patrick Swayzey. You know, there's that you
Speaker 3: get that swell of emotion and acceptance at the end,
Speaker 3: no doubt, but you see Patrick Swayzey, he goes to
Speaker 3: heaven and you're left with the assurances that, all right,
Speaker 3: yeah this stings, but you're gonna see him again. But
Speaker 3: movies like The Fountain, it just the suggestion that we're
Speaker 3: just going to be lost in a bewildering, bewildering feedback
Speaker 3: loop of soul recycling. It makes my stomach just sink
Speaker 3: into my shoes and that's where I walk away from.
Speaker 3: Maybe some people see it differently, but that's it's a trip.
Speaker 3: That's why the first thing I thought about was this
Speaker 3: movie when we were talking about LSD.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've never seen any really convincing argumentation for reincarnation.
Speaker 7: I always thought it to be kind of a silly position.
Speaker 7: I mean, where are we getting the new souls from
Speaker 7: if everything's just kind of being recycled. It kind of
Speaker 7: doesn't make sense. But yeah, I mean it's an ancient,
Speaker 7: you know, Hindu sort of pagan view and it ties
Speaker 7: into pantheism and these kind of you know and ultimately
Speaker 7: called animistic animistic doctrines.
Speaker 11: So Yeah, it's it's an interesting film.
Speaker 7: I mean, I like you, I might rewatch it every
Speaker 7: ten years or so, but I mean I think there's
Speaker 7: some other, you know, really fascinating films in there.
Speaker 11: What's another one you wanted.
Speaker 3: To talk about? The Prestige, Yeah, that one of my
Speaker 3: ahead No, I was that this is one of my
Speaker 3: favorites right here. So I want to know what comes
Speaker 3: through with you, because there's there's a lot that I
Speaker 3: can pick from you. These two obsessive, competing magicians that
Speaker 3: are willing to throw it all away to destroy each
Speaker 3: other personally or whatever. Professionally, you got these little hits
Speaker 3: of high science. David Bowie as Nikola Tesla was perfect.
Speaker 3: Then of course there's all these ethical dilemmas, but there's
Speaker 3: it's psychological too, because everything is an illusion. They as
Speaker 3: Hugh Jackman says in that movie as well about Borden,
Speaker 3: he lives his act. So you don't know who's getting
Speaker 3: gas lit and you don't know what's happening there. And uh,
Speaker 3: I'm just curious what your biggest nuggets you took away
Speaker 3: from that one is.
Speaker 7: I did a pretty lengthy, pretty deep analysis and it
Speaker 7: was written some years backside to kind of rewrite some
Speaker 7: of it. But yeah, the first I don't know, one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 7: the first six chapters of my book, which the chapters
Speaker 7: have got short, so I don't know. It's like the
Speaker 7: first thirty forty pages of the third book deals with
Speaker 7: Nolan films, and I think that, you know, No One
Speaker 7: was really at his peak in the two thousands.
Speaker 11: I don't think that.
Speaker 7: The more recent No. One films have been very good.
Speaker 7: I'm not a huge fan of Oppenheimer, but I do
Speaker 7: think that Inception Interstellar were good. A lot of people
Speaker 7: don't like Interstellar. Batman Tulogy was good, and I think
Speaker 7: the Prestige was really good. And it's operating, I think,
Speaker 7: on multiple levels. So on one level, it's telling us
Speaker 7: the story, as you mentioned about these magicians that are competing,
Speaker 7: and I'm sure everybody's perhaps seen it, so I'm not
Speaker 7: going to be spoiling anything if I talk about how
Speaker 7: the twist the reveal. You know, it says this three
Speaker 7: stage process to it, and the reveal is, of course,
Speaker 7: the that they were twin brothers. Right, so this whole
Speaker 7: time there was two of them. You never really knew
Speaker 7: that or realized that, but they were so devoted to
Speaker 7: their craft that they both lived their whole lives hiding
Speaker 7: the secret of their being twin brothers.
Speaker 11: And the Tesla stuff is weird is kind.
Speaker 7: Of thrown in there as an odd side thing, but
Speaker 7: it's also kind of clue because the idea in the
Speaker 7: Tesla tech stuff played by David Bowie of Ball People,
Speaker 7: is that somehow there's cloning. So it's like the Tesla
Speaker 7: teleportation electromagnetic field disturbance free energy stuff that Tesla is
Speaker 7: doing somehow is like causing multiple people if you try
Speaker 7: to teleport or whatever, then you get like two, three,
Speaker 7: four twenty David Bowies. So it's like, on the one hand,
Speaker 7: it's playing with the reality of technology getting us to
Speaker 7: this almost godlike status at the same time as the
Speaker 7: magicians doing this sort of stage routine that's a deception
Speaker 7: and the real science is sort of hidden from everybody.
Speaker 7: Everybody's following and playing attention to the magicians, and you've
Speaker 7: got this, you know, almost godlike magic that's real magic
Speaker 7: from the Tesla tech in the film.
Speaker 11: So there's a lot of different weird.
Speaker 7: Layers and things going on as to how realistic or
Speaker 7: exactly what is going on with Tesla. Oh, that's clouded
Speaker 7: in mythology. Now it's hard to determine exactly, you know,
Speaker 7: what Tesla was up to and what's authentically fully his
Speaker 7: and whether the Navy's.
Speaker 11: You know, shut all this down.
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we know that wireless stuff comes from Tesla,
Speaker 7: and we wouldn't have the Internet without Tesla. And but
Speaker 7: is did he create free energy?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe did he create cloning from multiverse entities?
Speaker 11: And being about that, But.
Speaker 7: My main analysis focuses on the way that humans in
Speaker 7: the audiences perceive things in the stage show and in
Speaker 7: the film, and how the state, the establishment, the corporate
Speaker 7: media does the same thing to us. We're viewing the
Speaker 7: magic show and the script writers, like the intelligence agencies
Speaker 7: and you know, the powers that be, the oligarchs, they're
Speaker 7: sort of writing the script and doing the three stage
Speaker 7: model the film to us.
Speaker 3: And to be honest, I think that is That's what
Speaker 3: a lot of people would say the purpose of staging
Speaker 3: something like a Challenger disaster would be because it's you know,
Speaker 3: all eyes are in the sky. It's emotional, it reaffirmed,
Speaker 3: you know, it makes you wonder, Okay, well, are we
Speaker 3: just going to give up when we hit us a
Speaker 3: bump in the road, or are we going to continue
Speaker 3: on in conquer space? You know, it's what they would
Speaker 3: want to do, you know, creating new heroes all that.
Speaker 3: But it's perfectly said, because of course we're this. I
Speaker 3: think this takes place around the very last years of
Speaker 3: the nineteenth century, and it's obviously there's no television or
Speaker 3: just a couple of decades before radio started becoming a
Speaker 3: little bit more a little bit more accessible to people,
Speaker 3: and it's just the night at the theater and how
Speaker 3: are people how's it being advertised in the papers? And
Speaker 3: it's it's a great thing that, you know, speaking of
Speaker 3: the last days of the nineteenth century. Have you done
Speaker 3: a breakdown on the Sherlock Holmes the Robert Downey Junior
Speaker 3: Shirlock Holmes movies.
Speaker 7: I did a video on that many years ago. I
Speaker 7: think the video is still on my channel. So there
Speaker 7: is a video about It's about twelve or thirteen minute
Speaker 7: esoteric analysis of the the first Sharlock Holmes. There's sort
Speaker 7: of a Lord Blackwood character that's based on Crowley, and
Speaker 7: he's trying to bring in this magical aon at the
Speaker 7: end of time. He's going to be this god figure
Speaker 7: in the quasi Masonic secret society that he works with,
Speaker 7: is right, He's got them all duped into believing that
Speaker 7: he has these magical powers, very similar to kind of
Speaker 7: the theme of the Prestige. And of course, you know
Speaker 7: Sherlock undermines all that and uses science to disseminate or
Speaker 7: too me to destroy the disinformation that Lord Blackwood is
Speaker 7: engaging in. And Part two is also interesting because it's
Speaker 7: about the powers that be sort of causing World War
Speaker 7: One and funding both sides, with Moriarty sort of being
Speaker 7: this figure he's tied into the arms factories that are
Speaker 7: funding both sides of World War One and the assassination
Speaker 7: of Franz Ferdinand to kick off the war. So I
Speaker 7: enjoyed both of those. Other were well made, and Guy
Speaker 7: Ritchie is a good directory. He makes pretty good films overall.
Speaker 7: But I do think the first one was the most
Speaker 7: sort of esoteric and a lot of references to you know,
Speaker 7: Crowleyan type colts going on. But I didn't include that
Speaker 7: in this book, but it is on my channel as
Speaker 7: an analysis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are great. Those are great, and for all
Speaker 3: those reasons, it's kind of chilling in the second one
Speaker 3: when they're all in the artillery yard or wherever the
Speaker 3: hell it was, and you start realizing that this is
Speaker 3: this is a building up toward World War One. They're
Speaker 3: just on the opposite side of nineteen hundred or whatever
Speaker 3: the hell it is. And it's pretty crazy almost, you know,
Speaker 3: you almost be like tipping your cap to when they
Speaker 3: did when they brought Daniel Craig on to be Double
Speaker 3: O seven and when they did Casino Royale and he's
Speaker 3: getting a little bit of a debrief with by Moneypenny
Speaker 3: by Am over there at right when they're still in
Speaker 3: the Bahamas, and she was talking about what was going
Speaker 3: on with the the air bus that was going to
Speaker 3: be blown up because Leschief had shorted all the airline
Speaker 3: stocks with the terrorist money, and she actually referenced to
Speaker 3: the shorting of stocks the night before nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: I said, holy shit, I mean that's that even back then.
Speaker 3: I said, that's pretty bold right there, because yeah, these
Speaker 3: are these are these are big, uh, these are big
Speaker 3: rolls of the dice that we see happening throughout history
Speaker 3: that most people are just told, oh that's nothing, it's
Speaker 3: just it happens.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the screenwriters pretty much of most of
Speaker 7: the Bond films are pretty aware of what's going on
Speaker 7: because they have almost always laced the films and the
Speaker 7: narratives with real events and real things and real quote conspiracies.
Speaker 7: That's one of the many examples. I think in my
Speaker 7: first book, I did quite a bit of Bond that
Speaker 7: there's about sixty seventy pages of Bond stuff in my
Speaker 7: first esoteric Hollywood book. And now of course goes back
Speaker 7: to you know, Ian Fleming being naval intelligence and for
Speaker 7: the British and then British Intelligence basically putting a lot
Speaker 7: of his own personal experience into those stories, describing what
Speaker 7: he had seen, but fictionalizing it and making it somewhat
Speaker 7: propaganda as well. So I'm not saying that the Bond
Speaker 7: stories tell you everything, but you do get you know,
Speaker 7: like Hugo Drax and these sorts of characters that are
Speaker 7: you know, kind of like Bill Gates or Epstein type
Speaker 7: characters who you know, they want to depopulate everybody, They
Speaker 7: want to create their own new human race. They want
Speaker 7: to be the God Adam figure to a new race.
Speaker 7: You know, if you watch Moon Raker for example, and
Speaker 7: then we see you know, in reality, you have people
Speaker 7: that are really like that, they really want to do that.
Speaker 7: So there's a lot of truth in those stories and
Speaker 7: in those films. But for this one, spy wise, I
Speaker 7: did include a pretty significant espionage section. And this time
Speaker 7: I went with all of the tom Cruise Mission Impossible films,
Speaker 7: so I did an analysis of all of them. It's
Speaker 7: towards the end, it's maybe, I don't know, a ten
Speaker 7: fifteen page analysis of all those. I did the Saint,
Speaker 7: which I think is a nineties class that you know,
Speaker 7: the bal Kilmer Churs Balkimer just passed away, but Elizabeth
Speaker 7: Shuvalkilmer in The Saint. I really enjoyed the nineteen ninety
Speaker 7: seven version of that, and that is a lot of
Speaker 7: esoteric alchemical stuff. And and he's Simon Templar. He's named
Speaker 7: after the Gnostic, you know, Magas in the Book of Acts.
Speaker 7: So there's a lot going on espionage wise in Esther
Speaker 7: Hollywood three as well.
Speaker 3: But what about the Total Recall. I see nineteen, I
Speaker 3: see the nineteen ninety Total I never saw the the remake,
Speaker 3: but total Recall. I can just imagine where that all goes, given,
Speaker 3: you know, implanted memories of you know, being able to
Speaker 3: go somewhere and have a memory of vacation implanted into
Speaker 3: your mind, and then to show up at the memory
Speaker 3: bank and actually have a suppressed memory come forward that
Speaker 3: you actually were on Mars and and then I mean, Manny,
Speaker 3: it goes into the deep of the deep ends after that.
Speaker 3: I love that movie.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did watch the new one, and I actually
Speaker 7: wrote back when it came out, the remake most people
Speaker 7: didn't really like it, the one with Colin Ferrell. I
Speaker 7: did a little analysis of it on my website back
Speaker 7: in the day. But no, this is an analysis actually
Speaker 7: of the original. And yeah, I mean I get into
Speaker 7: mk Eltri stuff.
Speaker 11: I get into the idea of you know, Philip K.
Speaker 7: Dick was playing with matrix type ideas before the Matrix,
Speaker 7: And if you watch All Recall, it's interesting because until Recall,
Speaker 7: the red pill is a bad thing because the red
Speaker 7: pill is going to pot wake him up. But it's
Speaker 7: actually not designed to do that, right because in the film,
Speaker 7: you know, the main Arnold Schwarzenegger character, he doesn't know
Speaker 7: whether he's still in the matrix or whether he's out
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 11: So it's kind of a matrix before the matrix type
Speaker 11: of plot.
Speaker 7: And you know, it's a classic, you know, eighties ninety
Speaker 7: I forget exactly it might be right on the bridge
Speaker 7: of eighties and ninety but future dystopia and a lot
Speaker 7: of mars Ufo crap that I think is just kind
Speaker 7: of propaganda. But but yeah, I think the main point
Speaker 7: that PKD was after, and that was the danger of
Speaker 7: a society that becomes obsessed with the synthetic and retreating
Speaker 7: into technology and that being kind of a synthetic version
Speaker 7: of our bliss that could entrap us. And that was
Speaker 7: way before the matrix.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Yeah, what do you think
Speaker 3: about speaking of synthetic and this is another rabbit hole?
Speaker 3: Do you ever give any any thought to celebrity cloning theories?
Speaker 3: Because I always keep an open mind with this. There's
Speaker 3: always a video or a slide show of people come.
Speaker 3: I just saw this latest video that came across my,
Speaker 3: uh my feed on on Instagram that was a side
Speaker 3: by side with Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things and
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Perkins from Big and I said, holy shit, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's nuts and it there's so many of those examples.
Speaker 3: Now I'm open to this and I'm going to give
Speaker 3: you a couple of reasons why, but I just want
Speaker 3: to see what what you have thought about this from
Speaker 3: because whether they're being cloned or whether it's just about
Speaker 3: conditioning and handling. On a psychological level, there's there's a
Speaker 3: there's a lot of manipulation going on amongst starlits for
Speaker 3: a long time. So just wanted to see where you're
Speaker 3: at with this.
Speaker 7: Personally, I'm a skeptic about clones. I'm not convinced that
Speaker 7: and I'm saying in general whether there really is cloning
Speaker 7: because I've looked it into it some and usually when
Speaker 7: they say, you know, oh, we've we've grown the ear
Speaker 7: of a human inside the back of a mouse, and
Speaker 7: then you go and read into it and it's like
Speaker 7: they actually just stuck the cartilage of a year underneath
Speaker 7: the back of the mouse, so it's like that's not
Speaker 7: really growing an air. And then when you read about
Speaker 7: like when they say they've cloned Dolly or one of
Speaker 7: these sheets or whatever, or this pig is you know,
Speaker 7: five percent clone pig or.
Speaker 11: Whatever, like when you look into it, they're they're actually.
Speaker 7: Just saying that it's like zero point two percent DNA
Speaker 7: of some other thing or you know what I mean.
Speaker 11: It's like, it's not very convincing to me that necessarily
Speaker 11: there is cloning. But I don't know. I don't have
Speaker 11: a set opinion.
Speaker 7: I've just not seen it, so I don't know whether
Speaker 7: it's real or not. Just a skeptical on a lot
Speaker 7: of this stuff. I was in terms of Hollywood pe people,
Speaker 7: I doubt it. There are body doubles though, so this
Speaker 7: is something that we can verify. We do know exist,
Speaker 7: like powerful figures, maybe even Hollywood people if they're like
Speaker 7: super high level, you know, super a lists, like probably
Speaker 7: a Tom Cruise or something like that. Like I could
Speaker 7: see Tom Cruise paying somebody to be a body double,
Speaker 7: you know, say he's getting death threats, say he's got
Speaker 7: a stalker, so something like this, Right, maybe Tom Cruise
Speaker 7: pay somebody to you know, appear an event, just smile
Speaker 7: and walk down a red carpet or something. And that's
Speaker 7: not far fetched because we've seen world leaders on record
Speaker 7: have body doubles. So Dom Hussein famously had multiple body doubles.
Speaker 7: And so if heads of states do it, which are
Speaker 7: in more of a dangerous position probably than an actor,
Speaker 7: I could see, you know, that's definitely true, but I
Speaker 7: would think they have maybe a body double over cloning.
Speaker 7: But I've not seen the picture that you're talking about
Speaker 7: with the girl from Big and Millie Bubby.
Speaker 3: Well, i'll maybe i'll at the end when we're getting off,
Speaker 3: I'll put it up there just for shits and giggles.
Speaker 3: But the reason why I'm open to this stuff is
Speaker 3: because when you think about what has already been thrown
Speaker 3: out there just in the name of transhumanism, and you know,
Speaker 3: genetic modification of things, or people trying to identify what
Speaker 3: could be an issue for somebody down the line and
Speaker 3: taking preventative measures to alter the body or augmentation in
Speaker 3: some way. There's a lot of these weird Frankensteinish things
Speaker 3: going on. Obviously that's a lot different than wholesale cloning
Speaker 3: of a person or of an animal. But you and
Speaker 3: I were talking about mechanized reproduction in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: right as we finish Brave New World, and shortly after
Speaker 3: that we got word of the baby lambs being sustained
Speaker 3: in artificial placentas, and I brought you back on we talked. Now,
Speaker 3: of course, here's the whole thing. There's the stated purpose
Speaker 3: for what the hell they say, say that it's all
Speaker 3: about this, of course, was that hopefully one day premature
Speaker 3: babies can have some time inside of these artificial amniotic
Speaker 3: sacs instead of being in an incubator somewhere if they're
Speaker 3: born premie. Last month we had MIT. This was a
Speaker 3: Now you can say, this is probably gonna be bullshit
Speaker 3: on the face of it. Will it ever happen, I
Speaker 3: don't know, but the fact that it's coming from MIT
Speaker 3: is pretty interesting. They've been talking about spare bodies that
Speaker 3: they wanted to create. They call them bodyoids. They're essentially brainless,
Speaker 3: spiritless bodies, bodies that would revolutionize the way that we
Speaker 3: harvest organs or even provide meat. It was really crazy
Speaker 3: what they put out there. And it's MIT this week
Speaker 3: cloning experience experiments through the guise of de extinction, you know,
Speaker 3: as if the world needs dire wolves. I'm sure you
Speaker 3: saw that. And again, that's one of those things where
Speaker 3: if this thing doesn't grow up to be the size
Speaker 3: of a rhinoceros, then I'm not going to believe that
Speaker 3: this was some extinct DNA of a wolf.
Speaker 7: That was yeah, well I read on the wolf thing.
Speaker 7: That was another kind of misnumber, like they were saying
Speaker 7: it was this, but it's like, oh no, this is
Speaker 7: actually just a wolf and suppose it has like part
Speaker 7: of the dire I don't know, it wasn't. Actually it
Speaker 7: didn't sound like actually what they were claiming it was
Speaker 7: the one I read into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. So that's what I'm saying. There is,
Speaker 3: like you said, the show in the prestige, and then
Speaker 3: there is what's the science that's actually being worked on
Speaker 3: behind the scene. What did they get from this little stunt.
Speaker 3: I'm sure something was gleaned from it that would be
Speaker 3: useful for some other projects. While we were given the
Speaker 3: first dial dire wolf howl that was ever heard in
Speaker 3: ten thousand years and everybody went Google gaga over it,
Speaker 3: but what was really achieved? And then I believe on
Speaker 3: the same day as the we got the headlines about
Speaker 3: the wolf, we got the headlines from the NHS in
Speaker 3: the UK about a baby, the first baby that was
Speaker 3: born by way of wound transplant. And I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't I'm telling you man. As far as mechanized reproduction,
Speaker 3: Brave New World stuff goes, it seems like all the
Speaker 3: all the pieces are are lining up.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean that seems more likely than.
Speaker 7: That there are all these clone people walking around. I mean,
Speaker 7: but again, maybe maybe I just don't know enough about it.
Speaker 7: I just I don't even know how given that there's
Speaker 7: so much bull crap out there, Like, I don't even
Speaker 7: know how I would how would I, as an observer
Speaker 7: even go about verifying, you know, whether any of this
Speaker 7: is real because I don't trust claims of MI I T.
Speaker 7: I mean, they put out bogus science bull crap all
Speaker 7: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I T, so, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised. I would say this problem that
Speaker 7: probably does exist synthetic womb, I could see.
Speaker 11: That being real.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know where this is all that
Speaker 3: that's heading right there, Brave New World. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 3: That's not This is not going to be nearly about
Speaker 3: giving women a Uh. This is going to be for whoever,
Speaker 3: whoever wants a womb is going to be able to
Speaker 3: get a womb.
Speaker 11: One day.
Speaker 3: You're gonna put it in there.
Speaker 11: Yeah, good point.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's yeah, that's what I'm just saying. It's uh,
Speaker 3: it's nutty, and it all goes along with messaging and
Speaker 3: what is being massaged into the psyche of the of
Speaker 3: the public. And of course, not only is the news
Speaker 3: a big part of that, but the movies as well.
Speaker 3: Do you do you see anything breaking on that Because
Speaker 3: you're big into I mean, you do a lot of
Speaker 3: comedy writing, you help produce other shows, not only yours.
Speaker 3: I know you work with Sam Hyde and and uh
Speaker 3: and we also we also have a lot of mutual
Speaker 3: friends that are into filmmaking. And a lot has changed
Speaker 3: in the last few years, aside from just new media
Speaker 3: and how people are getting information and intellectual debate and
Speaker 3: all that stuff. As someone who covers esoteric Hollywood so much,
Speaker 3: where do you see movie making as far as balance
Speaker 3: of power shifting in the next ten years. Is it
Speaker 3: possible to shift the bounds of power against this that
Speaker 3: kind of moneyed interest.
Speaker 7: Maybe not without a transfer of wealth. So I mean
Speaker 7: maybe if people you know, get into bigcoin and we
Speaker 7: have this massive well transfer, which I think bigcoin is
Speaker 7: the one of the future. I mean ten years from now,
Speaker 7: I would expect one bitcoin to be ten million dollars
Speaker 7: perhaps or more per coin. So maybe when we've got
Speaker 7: the money, we can start funding more wholesome.
Speaker 11: Artworks.
Speaker 7: But for the meantime, I think the old studio system
Speaker 7: of Hollywood is pretty much done for a lot of
Speaker 7: the Hollywood people are kind of admitting that, and now
Speaker 7: it's just turning into video games, and you know, the
Speaker 7: big tech companies having their own studios, so Amazon Studios,
Speaker 7: Apple Studios, Netflix.
Speaker 11: You know what I mean.
Speaker 7: It's basically tech streaming companies that are the new studio system.
Speaker 7: But you know, amongst the gen Z, it's weird. They
Speaker 7: don't really like movies, which is a new bizarre thing
Speaker 7: because mostly their attention spans have been destroyed from TikTok
Speaker 7: and scrolling, so they don't have the ability to sit
Speaker 7: through a movie. So that's going to be a weird
Speaker 7: phenomena to go through ten twenty years from now when
Speaker 7: the gen Z or the you know, culture bearers, will
Speaker 7: they even be making movies or will we just have
Speaker 7: like thirty minute movies that are from TikTok?
Speaker 11: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I absolutely and I see it in the demograph.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the how much you I have
Speaker 3: to assume you do study the metrics on all of
Speaker 3: your YouTube and everything else there too. I think that
Speaker 3: the generational splits in media consumption just based on what
Speaker 3: I'm able to collect on my YouTube, because Google provides
Speaker 3: the best metrics out of all of the streaming platforms
Speaker 3: out there, hands down, it is night and day. As
Speaker 3: far as who's now, I understand that. Also big tech
Speaker 3: companies and you know, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, they are prioritizing short,
Speaker 3: punchy two minutes in less content because people want to
Speaker 3: be able to digest this in a you know, doom
Speaker 3: scroll real reel to reel kind of a thing there. Right, So,
Speaker 3: the culture right now, by way of algorithm and dopamine
Speaker 3: and how the brain works, the culture right now is
Speaker 3: going to short attention span. That is what we are
Speaker 3: primed for. And you can see it especially in my
Speaker 3: metrics there too. There's all whoever is watching my show
Speaker 3: between the ages of eighteen and twenty five, they're mostly
Speaker 3: watching my highlights, the shorts and all that stuff. They
Speaker 3: are most of that. It almost is like switching on
Speaker 3: a light switch in a room from on to off
Speaker 3: when it goes to the long form content. And that
Speaker 3: is just immediately people about thirty to sixty five at
Speaker 3: that point who are watching long form conversation, and it
Speaker 3: has to be it has to be tied into a
Speaker 3: lot of that stuff because I know it's generational at
Speaker 3: this point, maybe a one day it lengthens. But are
Speaker 3: you seeing that on your end?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with. I mean, I see
Speaker 7: the metrics, the analytics, like you're saying, and I don't think.
Speaker 7: I mean, I do almost all long form content, you know,
Speaker 7: on my channel. I do have some, you know, short stuff,
Speaker 7: but I'm just looking at the metrics right now. It's
Speaker 7: like almost all of it is, like hardly anyone lasts
Speaker 7: more than sixteen to twenty five minutes. So my audience
Speaker 7: is made up of almost all age forty excuse me,
Speaker 7: age twenty.
Speaker 11: To forty.
Speaker 7: That's almost all my audience, and anyone underneath that is
Speaker 7: very small. Anyone above that is very small. But they don't, like,
Speaker 7: they don't watch more than fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 7: Granted, maybe the information is just not that interesting that
Speaker 7: people want to watch it more than you know, fifteen
Speaker 7: to twenty minutes or whatever, but that's weird because like
Speaker 7: that means that the younger you go, the less attention
Speaker 7: span there is, and the less that people are watching
Speaker 7: anything long form, and they're kind of like that would
Speaker 7: mean that something over twenty five minutes is long form content.
Speaker 7: I mean I do like three four or five hour
Speaker 7: debate streams. So yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well you know what, Like I said, things
Speaker 3: change all the time, and we were young as well,
Speaker 3: and I would had answered my pants at that time too,
Speaker 3: and maybe I didn't want to sit down and watch anything.
Speaker 3: But so maybe things change.
Speaker 7: But you can all get your attention span back. You
Speaker 7: can be fixed, you can heal yourself from that.
Speaker 3: That's true, It's good, it could. And I think just
Speaker 3: sometimes growing and needing more than just those those quick
Speaker 3: hits of a brain rot is uh is going to
Speaker 3: be something there too.
Speaker 7: But hey, Frank, I apologize. I'm gonna my wife has
Speaker 7: to do something in here. She got a podcast too,
Speaker 7: so I'm going to have to head out here in
Speaker 7: about a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3: Oh, no problem. I was just gonna let you plug
Speaker 3: your stuff anyway. Just in wrapping up that thought, I
Speaker 3: was just saying that, you know, it's it's one of
Speaker 3: those things that we all evolve along the way, and
Speaker 3: hopefully that's that's that's that takes that takes a hold.
Speaker 3: But you know, on the corporate side. You can see
Speaker 3: that it's actually set up to feed into this trend
Speaker 3: and hopefully people are able to break out of it.
Speaker 17: But right, uh, and.
Speaker 3: Moving forward, what do you got coming up? Obviously you're
Speaker 3: always live, you're always active, and you have things that
Speaker 3: are going to be published over the next couple of months.
Speaker 3: And what do you have next for for Jay Dyer?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean look for the start calling with three,
Speaker 7: you know, on my website. I'll have all that information
Speaker 7: up and I'll talk about it on social media everywhere. Again,
Speaker 7: don't know the exact date yet, but probably one of
Speaker 7: two months from now it'll be out and you signed
Speaker 7: copies at the website as well as signed copies of
Speaker 7: Part one and two and all the other stuff there.
Speaker 7: Continuing to you know, I'll be writing for Sam Alex Jones.
Speaker 7: We're not exactly sure what's going on with, you know,
Speaker 7: the battle over info Wars, so that's all kind of
Speaker 7: up in the air. I don't know if I'll be
Speaker 7: doing that for forever, but as far as I'm aware,
Speaker 7: I will be doing it as long as it's available
Speaker 7: and it exists, so I mean, Alex will always exist,
Speaker 7: but info Wars itself may not, so I will probably
Speaker 7: be doing some pretty big debates and appearances on whatever
Speaker 7: podcast a couple other big podcasts out in California, San Diego,
Speaker 7: Vegas podcasts, So that'll be coming up in the next
Speaker 7: the next month, so you can look for that stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, safe travels, my friend, and keep kicking ass and
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll talk soon and all the best of
Speaker 3: you and Jamie and uh yeah, have a good one.
Speaker 3: All right, thanks, Ray, All right, there you go, Jaydiyer
Speaker 3: jasonalysis dot com. Well, you know what, we lost about
Speaker 3: twenty minutes there, but I got most of everything in
Speaker 3: and it's alright, it's eight twenty. I'm gonna take a
Speaker 3: really really quick break. When we come back, we're taking
Speaker 3: your calls and uh, I'm looking forward to that. Nine
Speaker 3: one four two two sixty nine. You could also jump
Speaker 3: into the discord and I can pull you in that way.
Speaker 3: Be right back.
Speaker 14: Welcome to intermission. Yeah, intermission.
Speaker 10: The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you.
Speaker 3: He's fifteenth kay ten ten commandments.
Speaker 7: Quite Frankly, he's amazing.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a cat, shall we? Hey, six
Speaker 3: one four, you're on the air. Who's this?
Speaker 9: Hey, frank this is Tim, I actually sent you the
Speaker 9: PSA earlier.
Speaker 3: Okay, Tim, let me ask you, because I don't remember
Speaker 3: the methanphetamine one. Is that real or did somebody just
Speaker 3: make that and make it look like an authentic nineteen
Speaker 3: nineties PSA?
Speaker 9: No, that was a real PSA in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 9: I remember that as a kid, and probably the last
Speaker 9: one I sent you as well, and with the dog.
Speaker 9: Both of those I remember so vividly as a kid
Speaker 9: because instead of not wanting to do drugs, I was like,
Speaker 9: you know what, mess sounds like a good thing if
Speaker 9: I really want to get my house cleaning.
Speaker 3: No, I know it's not good at the end that
Speaker 3: she's covered in lesions, But other than that, I mean
Speaker 3: like the house looked fantastic.
Speaker 9: Oh yes, the most productive woman on her entire block.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, Tim.
Speaker 9: And the last one I sent you was the dog.
Speaker 9: I was like, if my dog could talk to me,
Speaker 9: I'm doing whatever they're giving me.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see here. The last one with the dog.
Speaker 3: You know, no matter what it is, I'm going to
Speaker 3: save it for tomorrow because I think Mike Baldwin is
Speaker 3: going to get a kick out of it. And I
Speaker 3: all maybe I'll look for some more PSA s. I
Speaker 3: know that the cannabis ones with the ninja turtles. I
Speaker 3: remember that one. I'm not a chicken, You're a turkey.
Speaker 3: You remember that one?
Speaker 9: Yes, oh, I most definitely do. And by the way,
Speaker 9: I want to apologize to Jay Dyer. When I seen
Speaker 9: your post. I've seen Jay and I was speed reading,
Speaker 9: so I immediately thought of Jamison Gulinello.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, so I.
Speaker 9: Was taking health and I'm like, oh, let me te so.
Speaker 9: But it was Jay Dyer also awesome, awesome guests on
Speaker 9: the show tonight, great show, Frank.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Tim and And to be honest, I
Speaker 3: never even thought two ways about I thought you meant
Speaker 3: Jay Dyer. Because there's something to be said about the
Speaker 3: the the anti drug PSA messages of the late eighties
Speaker 3: and early nineties. I mean, it was part of the
Speaker 3: culture back then. It's of course, it's messaging from a
Speaker 3: central authority, and it's worthy of some analysis, it really is.
Speaker 9: And saying that I am a gate kid, by the way.
Speaker 3: You really gate yes, yes, okay? So was your your
Speaker 3: experiences in the Gate program just kind of mundane? Like
Speaker 3: many people have told me or do you have some
Speaker 3: very strange things that you remember, like sleep away camp stories?
Speaker 9: Uh, not sleep away camp stories. I do remember like
Speaker 9: trying to guess the next card. I remember them teaching
Speaker 9: me chess in second grade, and I think like second
Speaker 9: grade kids were actually just learning like Puff the Magic Dragon,
Speaker 9: but they were teaching us chess. But I've had multiple
Speaker 9: instances throughout my life after that that's kind of been
Speaker 9: very strange.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me try I think of some of
Speaker 3: the things there too. There were there was a list
Speaker 3: that we were working off of that A lot of
Speaker 3: people in Gate and Tag or any of the iterations
Speaker 3: over the years have had in common. Do you do
Speaker 3: you have that you have?
Speaker 9: I have drowned. I have not had an Israeli girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, not just Israeli girlfriend, Israeli art student girlfriend.
Speaker 9: Art student girlfriend, no note of that. But I have drowned.
Speaker 9: I have been in between middle school and high school.
Speaker 9: I was invited to Washington, DC summer camp, like Youth
Speaker 9: for Leadership or something, but we didn't have like the
Speaker 9: money to send me and it was some weird program.
Speaker 9: It was also through Gate.
Speaker 3: What about the back of What about the back of
Speaker 3: your head? I believe it was almost like a cliff.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's the formation of your skull.
Speaker 3: Does it come into like a point in the back
Speaker 3: of your head.
Speaker 9: No, the back of my head is completely flat. And
Speaker 9: the joke has always been it's because my parents did
Speaker 9: love me enough but left me lying in the crisp.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 9: Oh no, it's vibe.
Speaker 3: All right. Uh okay, So last question before I let
Speaker 3: you go. Somebody a couple of people said that they
Speaker 3: felt that ever since they were in the program, they
Speaker 3: have had some very unusual help from the law, like
Speaker 3: they've gotten out of some sticky legal situations way too easily.
Speaker 11: They didn't know why.
Speaker 3: They always thought like somebody was looking out for them. Absolutely, really,
Speaker 3: do you have any examples?
Speaker 9: I was I went to the military. There was multiple
Speaker 9: times drinking and driving. The middle of I was pited
Speaker 9: at lot. We were supposed to have somebody that was
Speaker 9: a designated driver. He ended up getting drunk, of course,
Speaker 9: so we had to figure out who's the least drunk
Speaker 9: to drive back from Mexico to base. So I'm the
Speaker 9: least drunk, So I'm driving, we get pulled, I get
Speaker 9: pulled over. I'm swerving all over the road. Cop comes
Speaker 9: up to me. I pull out my license, He looks
Speaker 9: at it, he goes back to his car, runs me,
Speaker 9: comes back to the car and says, hey, you guys
Speaker 9: need to follow me back to the police station and
Speaker 9: sleep it off in the parking lot.
Speaker 3: That's strange.
Speaker 9: And we had drove straight to the police station, and
Speaker 9: of course he pulls out to go catch other people,
Speaker 9: so we ended up pulling back out. I've had many
Speaker 9: run ins with the lull where I probably should have
Speaker 9: gotten something done, you know, tickets, and they just go
Speaker 9: ahead and let me pass.
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, unless you had a really really cool cop,
Speaker 3: because otherwise that that would be a knock on the
Speaker 3: door for all of your parents or whoever the hell's
Speaker 3: looking after you at school or your your the authorities,
Speaker 3: whatever the hell. I forget if you said that was
Speaker 3: when you were already in the military or before then,
Speaker 3: but that must have been a really cool cop or somebody.
Speaker 3: There's there's some some sort of a note attached to
Speaker 3: your file. Who knows, who knows? Welcome, Thanks for the call.
Speaker 9: I believe there is, But I'm not gonna push my luck.
Speaker 3: No, don't don't. You're already ahead of the game. You're
Speaker 3: playing with house money. Do me a favor. If you
Speaker 3: find any more fun PSAs, just keep tweeting them at
Speaker 3: me in that same thread and I'll collect them for tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And I just want to get I think that it
Speaker 3: would be fun to get some reaction from Mike Baldwin
Speaker 3: when he's.
Speaker 9: On with me. Awesome, awesome, good to talk to you, Frank,
Speaker 9: all right.
Speaker 3: Have a good one. Take care. There goes Tim. Everybody
Speaker 3: call on in nine one four two hundred two sixty nine.
Speaker 3: It is eight twenty nine, and uh, we got a
Speaker 3: half hour left, so we're just going to be taking
Speaker 3: your calls. Let me see, let me see. We have
Speaker 3: a rumble rant on the quite frankly rumble that we're
Speaker 3: gonna go check out what's going on with bad Lands.
Speaker 3: All of our friends that are joining us over there too.
Speaker 3: Jay simmos As, I've been catching up with the live
Speaker 3: shows all week. Last night was intense. Keep it up, Frank,
Speaker 3: thank you. I have something on last night as well.
Speaker 3: It just came in before the show started. It was
Speaker 3: pretty intense. The second half of the show was great.
Speaker 3: I love talking about the tariff stuff. I think it's
Speaker 3: exciting what's happening on that end, but it's it was
Speaker 3: the two times that that Brandon Joe Williams was on
Speaker 3: it has been intense only because of the volume of
Speaker 3: stuff and also the implication of course, we're talking about
Speaker 3: declaring sovereignty from the tax matrix. And and you know
Speaker 3: how you stand as far as legal definition in opposition
Speaker 3: to the United States of America, and whether or not
Speaker 3: you pay your income taxes, how you exist in that
Speaker 3: world without doing all that stuff. But and and that
Speaker 3: is all well and good until we got to the
Speaker 3: very end about the the endorsement notes, writing an endorsement
Speaker 3: note to just drive away with new cars without any
Speaker 3: intention of actually exchanging currency or barter or putting up
Speaker 3: any kind of collateral to attain it. So we'll talk
Speaker 3: about that in a second, because I got an email
Speaker 3: before we want live all right, six four six, We
Speaker 3: got a local yokel over here. What's going on New York?
Speaker 6: Hey, it's Larry and Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Larry, how are you go ahead?
Speaker 6: It's been a while, dude. I love when you talk
Speaker 6: to this stuff. Man, this is my wheelhouse.
Speaker 3: Good yeah, Ja Duyer.
Speaker 6: He was right, he was right on it. I got
Speaker 6: to call him out a little bit because I've recognized
Speaker 6: his language over a lot of years. I know that
Speaker 6: he's close. He's not going to talk about Fie, but
Speaker 6: he's really close. He's already skeptic of He's a skeptic
Speaker 6: of NASA. He's a skeptic of space. And you guys
Speaker 6: covered the gamut tonight. I love the talking about the
Speaker 6: movies and the predictive programming and how it's subtly laced
Speaker 6: over the course of generations to get you to believe
Speaker 6: in a certain thing. And I mean, really like, this
Speaker 6: is how we understand propaganda these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, here, here, here's a little bit over. Here's
Speaker 3: the table of contents he sent me over so total recall.
Speaker 3: I think that that I can't wait to take a
Speaker 3: look at that. But Mary Poppins, I should have asked
Speaker 3: him about Mary Poppins.
Speaker 6: And now I want to go out Mary Poppins. Listen
Speaker 6: to listen to what she says throughout the picture. She goes,
Speaker 6: just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
Speaker 6: This is this is preprediction for all medicine is good.
Speaker 6: Just take some sugar with it. All medicine is good.
Speaker 6: We're finding out these days that perhaps it isn't. Well,
Speaker 6: that's early predictive programming.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't necessarily. Hey, I'm as skeptical with
Speaker 3: you as you on all that stuff at this point
Speaker 3: there too, But I wouldn't necessarily say this is about
Speaker 3: all medicine is good. It's just that if you ever
Speaker 3: tasted robitussin, if you ever had any that rank ass
Speaker 3: ship in your mouth, you would love a spoonful of
Speaker 3: sugar at that point to help it go down. But
Speaker 3: I just I just know, I don't know. Maybe I'm
Speaker 3: just looking at that.
Speaker 9: I gotta go with, did you have a robo flip?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, no, But you know what I was. I was working.
Speaker 3: I was working at CVS at that it was one
Speaker 3: of my first jobs on the books. And I was
Speaker 3: working at CVS and I was about fifteen years old,
Speaker 3: and this is when I was told, okay, listen, Frank,
Speaker 3: you got to look out for the robotussin. And you
Speaker 3: got and especially when certain people walked in. There was
Speaker 3: this one, you know, strung out girl that kept coming in.
Speaker 3: It's real sad. I remember it to this day. And
Speaker 3: this was the first time I ever saw a product
Speaker 3: put behind some kind of plastic. And this was back
Speaker 3: in you know, just around two thousand or so, nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety nine. You know, everything's behind sheet glass now and
Speaker 3: locked up for one reason or another. But when I
Speaker 3: heard about robo tripping back then, I mean, some of
Speaker 3: the people who were coming in looking for that robotustin,
Speaker 3: they were fucked up. And the other thing that that
Speaker 3: we were told to look out for was people stealing
Speaker 3: baby powder, the talcum, because that's what a lot of
Speaker 3: dealers were cutting their cocaine with. And I you know,
Speaker 3: then then you see all of the all the damn
Speaker 3: cancer cluster, all the can all the cancer clustered lawsuits
Speaker 3: that have popped up because of certain talcum powders and
Speaker 3: ship I was like, oh, I wonder how many people
Speaker 3: were sniffing it? You know, they didn't even know it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I learned a lot at fifteen.
Speaker 6: I didn't mean to take it all the way off
Speaker 6: into that, but like you had more of the movies,
Speaker 6: what were the other movies that were on the table content.
Speaker 3: Hary Pompa, Disney Disney's Cruella. I never watched it. I
Speaker 3: never watched it, But I understood what the hell was
Speaker 3: going to go on there. There is this trend. There's
Speaker 3: this trend with Disney and other other play other movie
Speaker 3: houses that bring back and want to reimagine certain types
Speaker 3: of characters, especially villains, and sympathize with them. So I knew,
Speaker 3: you know, right off the bat, I said, Oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so this is a this is a an apologetic for
Speaker 3: Kruella de Ville instead of just painting her as the
Speaker 3: crazed witch that is trying to kill puppies to turn
Speaker 3: them into into quotes. Let's see hear Wonder Woman, GMO
Speaker 3: Invitation to Hell Society, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, I
Speaker 3: know that one. You want to talk about mass psychosis,
Speaker 3: that is, that's a good one. I mean I often
Speaker 3: think of an invasion of the Body Snatchers. I thought
Speaker 3: about it a lot during twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: I mean talk about well what about they live? I mean,
Speaker 6: that's the ultimate that that's the ultimate truth and plain sight,
Speaker 6: you know, conspiratorial like you know Reptilians among Us movie
Speaker 6: that was sort of like kind of round upon by
Speaker 6: the mainstream, and it's like kind of applicable today.
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, I gotta imagine I have I have
Speaker 3: esoteric Hollywood one and two. I have to imagine that
Speaker 3: they live as in one of those, because that's, like
Speaker 3: you said, that is almost like a one oh one
Speaker 3: level class at this point. If you're going to talk
Speaker 3: about movies, movies with a message, that has to be
Speaker 3: like the top five you start with these days. But
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff with Christopher Nolan was great.
Speaker 3: The Prestige Interstellar, uh inception, I like that, I like,
Speaker 3: I liked all the The Batman trilogy was a lot
Speaker 3: of fun. But Watchman is in here.
Speaker 6: So Watchman's got a lot of stuff. It's it's it's
Speaker 6: occulted a lot, and there's a lot of stuff to
Speaker 6: decode out of that one. And they're, hey, what's the
Speaker 6: one nicol about? You know, what's the what's the cartoon
Speaker 6: one that talks about adrenochrome a lot in it? It's
Speaker 6: there's the Monsters inc. Monsters Inc. You want to see
Speaker 6: some some seriously creepy ship, watch that one.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, there's adrenochrome in Monsters Inc.
Speaker 6: Monsters inc. Is is laced with adrenochrome, uh, Like, all
Speaker 6: over the place. It's it's it's in the background. It's
Speaker 6: everything and it's actually about the process. Sorry, I don't
Speaker 6: want to take your podcast way off, you know, but
Speaker 6: this like those are its that know about that stuff.
Speaker 3: Watch that one and all right, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: go check look.
Speaker 6: Into that rabbit hole. I'll just stay there, but I'm
Speaker 6: gonna get off here. But I just wanted to say hello.
Speaker 6: I haven't said hih in a while, and I'll be
Speaker 6: catching up. I love these topics. I would like to
Speaker 6: talk about him, and I hope you're well.
Speaker 3: Brother, Oh well, I hope you're well. To Lawrence, have
Speaker 3: a good one. Be well. There you go, Larry from Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: It's good to have him on Planet of the Apes
Speaker 3: and the Reboots. There's a lot to say there. There's
Speaker 3: a lot to say with total recall. We already did
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. But Black Mirror, Black Mirror,
Speaker 3: I gotta say, Black Mirror is one of Black Mirror
Speaker 3: is one of those series that I want to watch more,
Speaker 3: but it's just so exhausting. It's so exhausting because it's
Speaker 3: you could just read the news. Just read the news, caller,
Speaker 3: you're on the air.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, hey, Frankie, what's up?
Speaker 3: Hello? There a four or five, how you been, I'm doing.
Speaker 8: Great, great to see Jay Dyer on he's a he's
Speaker 8: fucking phenomenal, and it's it's it's awesome that you have them.
Speaker 8: What I wanted to bring up is when when things
Speaker 8: become mundane, like if you're like really in Like I'm
Speaker 8: not gonna say like I'm in on this, I'm not,
Speaker 8: but I've I've, I've I've had my experiences. When when
Speaker 8: when when this mysterious stuff becomes really mundane and we're
Speaker 8: gonna get to that inflection point. I feel and and
Speaker 8: and and and you're you're you're, you're you're working through it.
Speaker 8: But when you when it, when it goes from questioning two,
Speaker 8: we all fully get it. So one quick one the
Speaker 8: challenger thing. I can remember being in grade school, New
Speaker 8: York City and getting called into the auditorium and having
Speaker 8: this this this big moment, this massive moment. They had
Speaker 8: a fucking screen set up for us to watch it,
Speaker 8: and and we all, we all were supposed to feel
Speaker 8: something from it. Flash forward two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait they did they bring this? They made
Speaker 3: you watch the rerun knowing how it's going to end,
Speaker 3: or you got together and watch the live feed. I
Speaker 3: was in.
Speaker 8: I was in. I was in a first grade through
Speaker 8: sixth grade public school. All the grades were brought down.
Speaker 3: All of them to watch it live. What to watch
Speaker 3: it live? Or after the fact?
Speaker 8: Oh oh no, no no, after the fact. That wait, shit, Frank,
Speaker 8: after the fact, after the fact.
Speaker 3: Damn they know they So they chose to sit you
Speaker 3: all down to watch these people die, yeah, and to and.
Speaker 8: To have like this moment where we all where we
Speaker 8: where we all could sort of grieve together. So so
Speaker 8: I mean, this is this is this is a fake
Speaker 8: NASA program. And I emailed you about the the fake
Speaker 8: fucking porpoises dancing around the SpaceX fucking capsule which is
Speaker 8: so incredibly fucking ridiculously fake with the woman of their
Speaker 8: hair in the air and then coming out of this tube.
Speaker 8: And it's like, it's like, why are they still doing it?
Speaker 8: You can't figure it out because nobody's paying The kids
Speaker 8: aren't paying attention. But back to what I was talking about.
Speaker 8: I was probably fourth grade, third fourth grade. All the
Speaker 8: grades were brought down into our communal lunch room where
Speaker 8: we always ate lunch together, and we were shown, if
Speaker 8: I remember correctly, we were shown the fucking the video
Speaker 8: of of of the thing happening and then told about
Speaker 8: it and like and like we were meant to grieve
Speaker 8: together over this national tragedy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it could have just been it could
Speaker 3: have just been the the way that your school administrators
Speaker 3: thought would be best to They probably all just thought
Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think that they were given
Speaker 3: instructions from the government to go do that. It's probably
Speaker 3: just what they thought was appropriate back then. I don't know,
Speaker 3: it could have just been.
Speaker 8: That's that's an excellent no, and that's excellent point. And
Speaker 8: I wasn't I wasn't going I wasn't saying it was
Speaker 8: the government that was that was doing it. But it's
Speaker 8: it's like everything is fucking subtle, like like you don't
Speaker 8: need to like tell somebody to do something if you've
Speaker 8: already set this thing in motion and it's just going
Speaker 8: to play itself out. Like they said, TV was gonna
Speaker 8: rot your brain. And we're a generation of TV watchers.
Speaker 8: We talked about the kids watching TikTok and their attention
Speaker 8: span and not watching movies. But but when the when
Speaker 8: the when the extraordinary becomes the mundane, and and there
Speaker 8: there really is when you like, this is not or
Speaker 8: nothing like. Their big trick is to make everything look organic.
Speaker 8: But it's it's it's not. It's actually really fucking simple. Okay,
Speaker 8: it's just it's just it's just it's just media and
Speaker 8: and and and it's and and and it's like a yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: that's what I got. That's what I got. Three Frankie,
Speaker 8: God love you brother.
Speaker 3: Well, well, thank you, Well hit us. I can working
Speaker 3: back from television, whether it be baby boomers going into
Speaker 3: even you know gen X, and you know, TV had
Speaker 3: been around for a couple of generations before we started
Speaker 3: getting handheld, before we started getting more mobile, and first
Speaker 3: it was already that way when I was growing up,
Speaker 3: TV will rot your brain. Everybody had, you know, to
Speaker 3: get away from that television. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the gaming consoles started to to really evolve quick and
Speaker 3: it was still easy to manage our time when the
Speaker 3: gaming consoles were not connected to the internet. It became
Speaker 3: a lot more addictive once you were you're playing on
Speaker 3: networks against people and all the other shit, and then
Speaker 3: there's less and less reason to leave the house all together.
Speaker 3: And then of course you're carrying it in your back pocket.
Speaker 3: So the evolution of the technology to say that television
Speaker 3: wasn't rotting people's brains is probably it was. Probably was,
Speaker 3: It's just it was just a little bit more of
Speaker 3: a primitive a primitive version of what we have going
Speaker 3: on right now. And everybody is having all of their
Speaker 3: small peaceful moments sucked away to the badges and the
Speaker 3: ring tones and everything else that's calling you back to
Speaker 3: the portal in your palm. So it probably where things
Speaker 3: all started, and it was a lot easier to manage,
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But yeah, I can see so
Speaker 3: I can see that. And then and then there's the
Speaker 3: other thing there too, Like we look at CNN's Gulf
Speaker 3: War coverage. Look, we look at CNN's Gulf War coverage
Speaker 3: and laugh at it now and say, how the hell
Speaker 3: did anybody think that this was real? How the hell
Speaker 3: did anybody think that that CGI in this movie look good?
Speaker 3: Why the hell weren't we all laughing our asses off
Speaker 3: when Mortal Kombat two came out and we didn't realize
Speaker 3: how bad really? I mean, I think some of us
Speaker 3: thought it was, oh, actually, that's really pretty fucking bad,
Speaker 3: and then a couple of then just a couple of
Speaker 3: years later it just aged so poorly. I mean, so
Speaker 3: the real thing there is that, yeah, these productions hindsight
Speaker 3: is twenty twenty you look back and said, wow, really
Speaker 3: screwing with us. But at the time it was politically
Speaker 3: expedient and you had everybody watching one source of it.
Speaker 3: So there's still a lot of trust, a lot of
Speaker 3: trust left over from past generations. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: trust there. It was trust alone is what got people
Speaker 3: to the most people, for a critical mass of people
Speaker 3: in the United States to accept that Oswald killed JFK.
Speaker 3: It was just trust. I listened to a lot of
Speaker 3: Coast to Coast classics now with Art Bell, I have
Speaker 3: since about twenty twenty one, and you know whatever, it's
Speaker 3: late at night. I want something to listen to. Like,
Speaker 3: there's so many places out there that host old episodes,
Speaker 3: and I don't care what the hell the topic is.
Speaker 3: I just want to listen to some kind of conversation
Speaker 3: A guy taking calls from people in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety seven just to listen to, just to
Speaker 3: listen to how people were thinking about things. I was
Speaker 3: listening to an episode that was just an open lines
Speaker 3: kind of a night in nineteen ninety six, just last night,
Speaker 3: and and Art refused to believe, refused to believe that
Speaker 3: the government had anything to do with and were willingly
Speaker 3: suppressing what happened with TWA eight hundred. Refused to believe.
Speaker 3: And he just couldn't take himself there. He also never
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, there's just so you want to
Speaker 3: talk about trust and what the authorities are saying. It's
Speaker 3: really it's like a time capsule there. And that's all people,
Speaker 3: that's all the Kennedy. Those are people who were alive
Speaker 3: and very much conscious when Kennedy was shot. And Dan
Speaker 3: rather calmed them all down, Walter Cronkit calmed them all down,
Speaker 3: gave them the gave them the four to one one,
Speaker 3: and it was all bullshit. It's all bullshit. But we
Speaker 3: only had one channel, a couple of channels to tune
Speaker 3: into and one device. You walk away from that device,
Speaker 3: suddenly you're in real life again. You can't walk away
Speaker 3: from them so easily anymore. And and that's not to
Speaker 3: say that everything that was on the television was bullshit.
Speaker 3: There's just I love watching old old TV shows and
Speaker 3: we often do that on Sunday nights. When Aurora is
Speaker 3: still awake. Ed Sullivan reruns are on constantly. I love
Speaker 3: stuff like that, man, I really do. All right, real quick,
Speaker 3: we gotta take one last break. When we come back,
Speaker 3: some more of your calls. We'll take it right to
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Speaker 5: All right, Oh no, we're going to have to take
Speaker 5: this call right here.
Speaker 3: Hold on one second, and welcome to the show. Jeremy Reese.
Speaker 3: I wonder what triggered you to call in tonight? Is
Speaker 3: it the uh? Is it the media? The media centralization
Speaker 3: of all messages that of course led to JFK talk
Speaker 3: and everything else.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I mean I saw that you guys were alive.
Speaker 17: I kind of just tuned in, So I haven't what
Speaker 17: have you guys covered so far? Top ten Cia offs.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we did top ten ci A. Jay Dyer
Speaker 3: brought that to the table. We did a little bit
Speaker 3: out of that, and then we we we blended that
Speaker 3: into esoteric and uh, you know, messaging, cultural messaging that
Speaker 3: through that is delivered through Hollywood. Because he's just he's
Speaker 3: just completed writing his Esoteric Hollywood Part three, a series
Speaker 3: of now a trilogy of books on that. So we
Speaker 3: kind of just brought intelligence into the culture and how
Speaker 3: all that influence meshed together. And of course, with ten
Speaker 3: minutes left, here you are, so i'd love to give
Speaker 3: you a few of them.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 3: Well, well, welcome, welcome aboard. What would you say? Is
Speaker 3: there any movies out there? I guess we'll just stick
Speaker 3: to the topic at hand. Are there any movies out
Speaker 3: there that you could really point to that, especially from
Speaker 3: a high technology or even a UFO alien standpoint, that
Speaker 3: you always talk about that that's serve was one purpose
Speaker 3: or another that you know was a complete op From
Speaker 3: a movie standpoint, Is there any of them?
Speaker 17: I mean a lot of the ones that have been
Speaker 17: released in the in the last two years. I mean,
Speaker 17: I mean a lot of the like small like documentaries
Speaker 17: out there, but the Hollywood movies let me see that. Uh,
Speaker 17: I don't know, but I added on the jam. Let
Speaker 17: me get back to that. I want to say. I
Speaker 17: want to just want to throw in something about the
Speaker 17: jfk assassination. Yeah, one of the women is that befriended
Speaker 17: Marina Oswald, Lee's wife, There was a woman named Priscilla McMillan,
Speaker 17: and she she helped translate and write her autobiography supposedly,
Speaker 17: and then it turns out that she was the CIA
Speaker 17: uh consenting operative, you know, like she she was like
Speaker 17: an knowledgeable like operative.
Speaker 19: For the CIA.
Speaker 17: And there's documentation that she was paid for like almost
Speaker 17: all her work, and that came out in the files.
Speaker 17: So this is the way that they've infiltrated all kinds
Speaker 17: of media and culture so that when people go to
Speaker 17: the literature and they say, oh, well, this is what
Speaker 17: you know that this is the profile that they have
Speaker 17: of Lee, and this is what we were told who
Speaker 17: Lee Harvey Oswald was. And and so they they've really
Speaker 17: i mean they've hit the files on Lee Harvey Oswald
Speaker 17: for until twenty thirty nine, is when they originally wanted
Speaker 17: to keep them all classified untill and you know now
Speaker 17: that it's a lot of this is coming out, there's
Speaker 17: a lot of that. But I mean I remember a
Speaker 17: lot of films that were pro conspiracy, like throwing stuff
Speaker 17: this stuff in growing up. I don't remember The Rock
Speaker 17: where the Sean Connery where in the end, I think
Speaker 17: Kevin Costner's character is like looking through the stuff that
Speaker 17: he gets from this the spy guy.
Speaker 3: La, do you want to know who Nicholas was?
Speaker 9: Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 17: Yeah, He's like, do you want to know who killed Kennedy?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 3: There was old and there's negatives of like eight millimeter
Speaker 3: film that was hidden inside of a pew at a
Speaker 3: random church somewhere in the country. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember that right at the end.
Speaker 17: Clever dead drop. But yeah, it would be something like
Speaker 17: that where there's a dead drop location that that there's
Speaker 17: something in. But you know, a lot of the key
Speaker 17: films from Daley Plaza were like destroyed or just confiscated.
Speaker 17: It never surfaced, like I think Beverly Oliver was recording,
Speaker 17: and also Gordon Arnold said, like the Secrets, a guy
Speaker 17: identifying themselves as Secret Service took their film and never never, never,
Speaker 17: they never saw it again, never heard of it again.
Speaker 3: I think it was like two or three weeks ago,
Speaker 3: probably about three weeks ago whenever, whenever the hell it
Speaker 3: was is after the first full week of of those
Speaker 3: those JFK files came out, we were talking about that
Speaker 3: at the end towards the end of the week, my
Speaker 3: buddy Jay was in here and we were he brought
Speaker 3: up Beverly Oliver and he brought up the confiscated How
Speaker 3: this is something that he would really love to see,
Speaker 3: is a release of all the confiscated film that was
Speaker 3: Obviously there's no trace, there's not there, no mention of it.
Speaker 3: So you know that all went into an incinerator somewhere because.
Speaker 17: Yeah, they had the clearest photography of the knoll and
Speaker 17: the assassination from the perspective of the knoll at that
Speaker 17: close of an angle. So yeah, it was course that
Speaker 17: they went and rounded up that the evidence right away
Speaker 17: and had it destroyed. But what's crazy is is that
Speaker 17: Beverly Oliver's shoes. Have you ever heard of her shoes?
Speaker 17: She was standing right on the curb and if you
Speaker 17: look in the Zuppruter film where you can see her standing,
Speaker 17: she's like closest to the curb on the other side
Speaker 17: of the assassination, like closest to the president when when
Speaker 17: the headshot actually takes place, So she would have got
Speaker 17: all that on film. And she has her shoes have
Speaker 17: this yellow paint on the bottom of them. You can
Speaker 17: notice that the curb is just that curb is painted yellow,
Speaker 17: and you go through like it's very hard to find
Speaker 17: like color photographs of that ankle, the assassination and Indi
Speaker 17: Lee Plaza. But somebody came the night before and painted
Speaker 17: three of the curbs, just three of the curb markers
Speaker 17: yellow with yellow marker paint. It was fresh, so and
Speaker 17: those were right coordinated with where the shots, you know, happened.
Speaker 17: So it's like it's like a timing mechanism. They didn't
Speaker 17: have to announce the timing over shooting, you know, it's
Speaker 17: like you know, announce it over a radio or anything.
Speaker 17: So it's just right there in the plaza, which has
Speaker 17: always been strange to me. If it was an assassination
Speaker 17: by a lone nut and Oswald was in that window,
Speaker 17: he would have shot the president when they were coming
Speaker 17: right down Houston Street. That's that's the shot. I mean,
Speaker 17: he's coming straight towards you. There's no escape but to
Speaker 17: wait until he takes the turn onto Elm Street and
Speaker 17: gets into at ambush zone, which is is just a
Speaker 17: clear sniper shop. From the grassy knoll behind that white
Speaker 17: picket fence, that's clearly where they took them out from
Speaker 17: and then they could they had to see your cars.
Speaker 17: Nick could have had a compartment in any one of
Speaker 17: those vehicles just to stash a rifle real quick and
Speaker 17: then just identify themselves as Secret Service agents. And nothing
Speaker 17: happened in this area.
Speaker 19: And you know, like, yeah, it would it would have
Speaker 19: been it would have been a cinch to to just
Speaker 19: to just have a second gunman or at least even
Speaker 19: a third gunman there on the knoll.
Speaker 17: And I don't know about all the other gunmen in
Speaker 17: the assassination. The other people say there might have been
Speaker 17: one on the other corner of the of the text. Well, yeah,
Speaker 17: depository building. But again, the mechanics don't matter. What matters
Speaker 17: is that the CIA has them power in the media
Speaker 17: and Hollywood and everything else to be able to cover
Speaker 17: this up for decades and decades and decades.
Speaker 9: It's just to show you that again.
Speaker 3: Again again though, Jeremy, what I was saying before you
Speaker 3: came on is that I think it really goes to
Speaker 3: show that what you needed back then more than anything
Speaker 3: was trust. Uh, And there's a lot of trust that
Speaker 3: the public had in in the media still at that time.
Speaker 3: And of course, like you said, and who was running
Speaker 3: the media and who was running this operation. It's a
Speaker 3: it's a it's good. It's a it's a really good analysis.
Speaker 8: There.
Speaker 3: I have to get off right now though, because I'm
Speaker 3: up against the clock. I'd love to. We got to
Speaker 3: get you on again, just to do I love your
Speaker 3: random stoppings, they're always illuminating, but we got to do
Speaker 3: something efficiently after the show.
Speaker 17: I'm gonna text you and let's let's let's think up.
Speaker 17: We'll do uh, we'll do a show soon, man, Thank you. Awesome, awesome.
Speaker 17: I'm gonna go back and listen to this. Uh this
Speaker 17: Jay Dyer guy.
Speaker 3: You got it. I think I think you like him
Speaker 3: a lot. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 9: All right, there you go.
Speaker 3: That's the alien scientist Jeremy Reese. So that'll be fun.
Speaker 3: We'd love to get Jeremy back on sometime soon. Well, listen,
Speaker 3: it's eight fifty seven. I really appreciate you guys. Today
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Speaker 3: And Sean Joe, thank you so much. Well, that's it
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