Speaker 1: Oh Willow who also, and.
Speaker 2: Yes, good to be back man, don okay, so welcome, welcome,
it's good to have you here.
Speaker 3: It is a Thursday night. It's a rainy Thursday at that.
It's gonna be raining for the next but it looks
to be next couple of days. I don't know. Te
Ball is supposed to start on Saturday morning, but it
looks like the whole day is going to be a wash.
So hey, you know what, April showers bring May flowers.
Huh does that happen still? Or have the flowers been
pushed back to June? I forget, but thank you for
being here. Tonight it's gonna be a good one. It
is the tenth day of April, April tenth, twenty twenty five,
at seven o'clock on the nose, seven oh one, depending
on what you're using. And tonight we've got a couple
of great things going on. Number one, it's just Thursday,
and I love Thursday nights. It's a tradition of me
loving Thursday nights. Jay Dyer is coming on. He's the
guest of honor. He'll be with us in a few minutes.
He's our guest this evening. Jay'sanalysis dot com. All of
his links are in the description of this episode, and
I wanted to do an intelligence Intelligence Service deep dive
with him top ten operations known to the public and
other things, especially time to expand into Hollywood, because not
only is it closely related to intelligence service activity, but
Jay is about to release another book on the subject soon.
Esoteric Hollywood three is coming out soon. You can get
it on pre order right now. And that's what we
have there. Other than that, there is so much else happening,
so much else happening. This right here, I'm playing off
of the This is Kenobi Chasing Clouds, and I'm playing
it off of the quite Frankly Spring Fever playlist that
is included in this month's episode on not episode bulletin
the April edition of the Quite Frankly Bulletin. You can
get that in the description below, or it is archived
on quite frankly dot tv. It's all over the place,
and if you just can't find it, email me. I'll
send it right to you. You got to read the bulletins.
They're so great, and we feature a lot of great
stuff from the fans as well. I want to make
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it's great. A lot of people are doing a lot
of a lot more in person stuff. There's something we'll
be announcing sometime soon that we're aiming for the end
of summer. I really want to be able to get
out to one of these great American restoration to our
events or because I know that bad Lands have been
doing this for a while, because Zach Zach Paine red
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what's going on. Uh. He would always be like, I'm
gonna be here, gonna be here. I think that the
Vegas one, there's other thing. They travel a lot, and
there's a lot of people that go out to these things,
which is great because it tells me that all the
virtual connections people are making are actually trickling out into
real life. And that's really what you need to rebuild
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love to catch one of these. I want to go
on some some damn road trips already. Okay, Well that's that.
Let's get this one kicked off because we're gonna have
Jay Dyer on the show with us in just a
few minutes. It'll be a deep one. It's gonna be great.
Every time that Jay comes by. Man, we just it
can go in any direction, and it usually does. All right,
ladies and gentlemen, we will be right back in a floor,
so don't skidaddle.
Speaker 4: By the way, the definition of the word retard is
to hinder or to hold someone back. I think your
life is about to become retarded.
Speaker 5: Do you let one ant stand up to us, then
they all might stand up.
Speaker 6: Those puny little ants outnumber us one hundred to one.
And if they ever figure that out, there goes our
way of life.
Speaker 7: It's not about food.
Speaker 6: It's about keeping those ants in line.
Speaker 4: That's why we're going back. Does anybody else want to stay?
Speaker 8: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, that was the pre show. This is the
real show. Welcome one, Welcome all. So you know we're
gonna be talking a lot about we'll be getting into
movies tonight in a little bit. But there's a lot
more that predates that. The influence, the powers that influenced
the movies and everything else that goes along with our culture.
But it's not even that, it's more. I mean, you
think about what we've gotten just over the last couple
of weeks alone with the Arc of the Covenant. I
know that the the the Pyramids and all of those
those satellite scans that opened up. You know, the conversation
about what is going on two kilometers below the surface
over there in Egypt is not CIA related. But we
got a lot more on that. We got. We got
talks about remote viewing, not only the Arc of the Covenant,
but then there was also Mars. Of course that that
brings in all of the past, the past stuff that
we've learned from the Monroe Institute. We've also got this
from the Pulse. A couple of weeks ago, some UFO
abductions were simulated CIA psychological warfare experiments. What else did
they do? Now, this one I'm definitely going to bring
up when we have Timothy Alberina back on the show.
Maybe that'll be in another Thursday Night. The picture above
is of Joseph Allen Heinik, an American astronomer, professor and ufologist.
Heinick acted as a scientific advisor to UFO studies undertaken
by the US Air Force under three consecutive projects, Project Sign,
Project Grudge, Project Blue Book nineteen fifty two to nineteen
sixty nine. The man next to him is doctor Jacques Valais.
So the roots run deep, my friends, they really do
all over the place. That being said, I mentioned Mars before.
I'll have a little bit more on that later on
tonight too, because it's been getting around at Mars. It's
been discovered by whatever means we're going to learn about it,
that it has enough water for a one mile planetary
wide ocean. You hear that water, Never seen it, never
seen a drop in my life, but they found a
lot of it. And this was a nineties the entire
world would be at a standstill. But did this stuff
just just not move the needle for anybody anymore? I
don't think it moves the needle for Jay dye Er either.
I don't think it does. We also have some more
on this as far as cloning goes. I want to
bring that up. I want to bring up all of
the You know, when you talk about Hollywood, you can
go into there's so many places where the road forks,
and one of those places is celebrity cloning. I don't
know if we're going to have enough time for that tonight,
but I really love to bring it up because Jay
was also a co host. He co hosted a few
books book clubs with me. We did Brave New World.
We did The Godfather together. I think those are the
other two we did. But Brave New World was incredible
because we really started breaking down and getting, you know,
getting really well acquainted along with the audience that took
part in it, with the genetic structure of that world,
which of course was written by Aldous Huxley, and this
was written as an apology. He was an apologist for
that New World Order type. That wasn't It wasn't a
a warning. It wasn't day Hey, listen, this is the
this is the path we're on if we don't watch ourselves.
This was a hey, this is what's going to get
served up to you. And oh, well, well, we're coming
up on one hundred years later, and boy, oh boy, oh.
We had think about the headlines we had just in
the last couple of weeks. Aside from the fact that
we've have the first de extinction cloning resurrection clone of
a dire Wolf, we have a follow up to all
of those. What was it is? I think it was
in twenty twenty four, probably one of the last times
that Jay came on, to be honest, early twenty twenty
four or late twenty twenty three, they were talking about
these bags almost like latex bags that can act as
artificial wombs or artificial placentas that they were trying to develop,
at least for a certain point in gestation, these baby
lambs in these little latex sacks or something like that
in these laboratories, which, of course, all of the stated
intention was that this would be there as options for
premature babies to be incubated in a little bit more
of a natural environment instead of outside of a mother,
outside of the womb. And you know, there's some people
that will applaud that, and I'm sure that options like
this would be very, very helpful for in the future.
But is it always the stated intent? Is the stated
intent always?
Speaker 9: Really?
Speaker 3: What's going on? You earn back in twenty eighteen. I
don't want to run into Jay here, He's going to
be coming on any second here. But you remember, in
twenty eighteen there's this from MIT, which is also the
MIT technology reviews. Also, what's been talking about the brainless
bodies that are coming our way, or at least that
they want to be able to start growing brainless, soulless
bodies that just essentially provide not only organs but meet Okay,
this was twenty eighteen. Chinese scientists are creating crisper babies.
A daring effort is underway to create the first children
whose DNA has been tailored using gene editing. So to say, ohthough,
you know, they were a long way off for humans
and they were just doing this with dire wolves and
dodo birds. It's bullshit. No, it's not happening. It's already happened.
It's already happened, my friends. So I want to be
able to just get a lot of this out on
the table for you tonight, and Jay will be joining
us in a little bit. The other thing I want
to bring up, and I might bring it up first,
is something that one of you guys had thrown my
way during the coffee meeting on Monday morning on YouTube. Well,
we had our Monday morning coffee meeting, which is open
for all usually around eleven am. Haven't missed a Monday
since we started it. So it's been kind of a
set thing. But one of you guys through the Richard
Day Tapes my way, and I remember them. I remember
looking into them, and I think Jay had gone into
them as well, which I think would be really interesting
way to start all this off, because you want to
talk about you want to talk about planning a society,
how to then demolish and rebuild a society. That's something
that I think is worthy of digging into. For those
of you who don't know, here's a little bit of
a background. The Richard Day Tapes, more formally known as
the New Order of Barbarians Tapes, refers to a series
of audio recordings made by doctor Lawrence Dunnigan in nineteen
eighty eight and nineteen ninety one. These recordings recount a
lecturer that Dunnegan claims he attended on March twentieth, nineteen
sixty nine, delivered by doctor Richard Day, a prominent physician
and professor of pediatrics who was also involved with Planned parenthood.
According to Dunnaghan, Day spoke to a group of medical
professionals and students of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society, sharing what
he presented as insider knowledge about a planned future for
a society, orchestrated by a powerful group that he referred
to as the new Order of Barbarians. Day allegedly asked
attendees not to take notes or record the lectures, citing
potential personal repercussions of his remarks became public. The content
of the tapes outlined are wide ranging agenda purportedly designed
to reshape society over decades. Dunnaghan recalled the day discussing
topics such as population control, changes in medical care, societal restructuring,
and the erosion of traditional values, all framed as part
of a deliberate plan by an elite group. Here's a breakdown.
Number one. Population Control Day allegedly predicted because these are
all like most things of this nature, whether it be
the Albert Pike letters or something else like that. Some
people say it's true, it's others say there's no evidence
and it's all myth. But just like the Albert Pike letters,
the illuminati that outline the three world wars, it does
say something that so far we are on track, and
it's almost to the t the punctuation mark that things
have been progressing. So they allegedly predicted measures to limit
population growth. In growth including promoting smaller families to child maximums,
making divorce easier and more common, encouraging euthanasia for the
elderly deem no longer useful to society. I think a
lot of that's been going on. Medical changes. They reportedly
claim that healthcare would become prohibitively expensive, especially for the
elderly and tied to employment status. He also mentioned that
the intention the intentional introduction of new difficult to diagnose
in untreatable diseases. Additionally, he suggested that cancer cures already
existed in nineteen sixty nine, but war being withheld. With
the information stored at the Rockefeller Institute, a lot of
big name drops sometimes that makes people suspicious as well.
Societal shifts. The Electure support supposedly included plans to destabilize
traditional structures like marriage and religion. Homosexuality would be normalized
and promoted, sex education would be used to influence youth.
The Early Day allegedly said people would be conditioned to
accept constant change as normal, making societal norms fluid and impermanent.
Surveillance and technology Day is said to have foreseen a
world where television would monitor viewers even when turned off,
and a single banking system would eliminate physical money with
all transactions tracked electronically, and cultural and behavioral manipulation. Fashion
would become more provocative. Media would push sex and violence
to desensitize people. Terrorism would increase globe creating fear and
justifying control measures. Well, well, I'll be now again. I
want to bring I want to bring this up to
Jay Dyer. I was expecting him here seven minutes ago.
Thankfully I had a lot of a lot of cushion
up front to work with. But again, when we look
at the published writings, the published works of someone like
Alvis Huxley, he got it pretty good too. Makes you
wonder if there is a game plan, if there always
has been. And as it turns out, a lot of
these people are publishing these things along the way, and
it's almost like their own little cheerleading. They cheerlead each other.
So we're going to be able to do a little
bit more of this. When Jay comes back, I'm just
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Speaker 3: Poof. Okay, everybody, so listen, we're gonna be taking a
little bit of calls. We're gonna take some calls from
you guys about whatever the hell you want until Jay
shows up. So I like having everybody up front. That's
what we're planning on doing. But until he shows up,
we're just going to go right to the calls. Nine
one four two hundred two sixty nine, give me a
buzz nine one four, two hundred two sixty nine, And
you're coming on the air with us, and I just
want to hear what's going on with you, how you're
seeing things out there. And the other thing there too
that we can talk about is, of course the content
the table of contents for j and his in his book,
which I think is great because there's a couple of
things in here that I'd really love to talk to
him about, a couple of titles in here I really
love to talk to him about. He's got an entire
section on Christopher Nolan. One in particular I wanted to
bring up was The Prestige, one of my favorite films
really is, and again and again, what is pulled from
all this? What is pulled from all this? There's also
somebody out there. His name is Tim, and he sent
in a couple of these PSAs, these old school PSAs,
and wanted to know if Jay. But I was also
thinking that this would be a great, a great bit
for Mike Baldwin tomorrow night, if these old television PSAs
were worthwhile for America's health, if they actually did anything
at all. Did you guys, ever, do you guys remember this,
this myth, this p s A for methanmphetamine. I don't
remember it. I remember the the eggs frying on the
the frying on the frying pan. I remember a few
other let's see here. I remember all the out the
marijuana ones. Those are great. Take a look at the
meth commercial. Look at me, busy as a bee. Where'd
I get all this senergy?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 12: Man, I don't sleep.
Speaker 3: I don't remember this. The cleanest house.
Speaker 1: On the street.
Speaker 3: This has got this. This has got to be like
kids in the hall or something. Is this for real?
Because I thought I remembered all of these things.
Speaker 13: Get these hairs all out of my face, Get these
bugs all out of my place.
Speaker 1: One more hit, no time.
Speaker 14: Two Waist.
Speaker 3: Office of the National Drug Policy partner with the Drug
free America. I'd see. I can see that being true.
Like sometimes we're just abrasive with the messaging in the nineties,
and that looks like a nineteen ninety four kind of
a feel right there. Here's the other one, and I
can't wait to show these to Mike Baldwin tomorrow. We'll
see the other ones that are out there. This is
uh I remember this one. I learned it by watching you. Dad.
You want to talk about cultural norms and messaging.
Speaker 15: Yours?
Speaker 3: No, I must have had you found it in your closet.
Speaker 7: I don't know when a guide was lost of what
look that it's now?
Speaker 13: Did you get it?
Speaker 3: Got to answer me? Who taught you how to do
this stuff?
Speaker 12: You are right?
Speaker 8: I learned it by watching you.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 9: Use drugs? Have children who use drugs? Well?
Speaker 3: Wait a second, I want to look inside of this
box here? Okay, what's in there?
Speaker 6: See?
Speaker 3: How could how would you see? The thing that's funny
to me is how would the father be surprised? He's
obviously he didn't know that his son is watching him
roll joints? Or is there something else in there? And
if it's more than that, then was he really doing
it in front of the kid the whole time. It's you,
all right. I can imagine that being for like your
curse words. I heard you, I heard I heard Dad
use that language. I heard I saw Dad use the marijuana. Anyway,
these are something that I actually liked back then. I
think it's better than the drug wars that we used
that we still run and we still wage. I like
the messaging that it's fun. It creates conversation, it creates
memes for years and years to come, and of course
it doesn't empower the cartels, which is what it usually
usually what happens at the end of some of these
uh these drug wars. Here but here we go. Now
we're back on track, ladies and gentlemen, so we can
joining us right now for the first time since I
think December. Author comedian host of The Alex Jones Show's
Fourth Hour, Jay Dyer Jason Aalysis, how are you, sir.
Speaker 11: Good man? Glad to be back with you.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 11: I lost the link.
Speaker 7: I had a flood of muscage messages on Twitter and
I had to go and find where it was.
Speaker 3: Damn. So I'm sorry. Well, I should have kicked it
up to the top or something. Anyway, Well, it's good
to have you on. You've been very busy lately. It's
always great to see you do well. And not only that,
but you have Esoteric Hollywood Part one and two books
that I own. But it is soon going to be
become a trilogy. When has part three officially come out?
Speaker 7: Well, we don't have a sad date. Yeah, but I
mean it's going to be in the next couple of months,
so it's gonna be soon.
Speaker 3: It's on pre order on Amazon, though, right because I
saw that.
Speaker 11: Oh I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3: Well, then maybe I saw the wrong thing.
Speaker 7: But well, it may be on there pre order, but
don't pre order from Amazon. Pre order from the website when.
Speaker 3: I get that up there, Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 7: Well any way, otherwise you're just giving money to Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 3: Right right. Ultimately you know more about my book.
Speaker 16: Than I do, so.
Speaker 3: At this point I do. But we'll see because I
have a table of contents that you sent me and
I want to talk to you about that in a bit.
But first I before you were you came in, I
was reading a little bit about the Richard Day tapes
again and somebody had brought it up in a chat
room for a stream I was doing earlier on in
the week, and they suggested I talked to you about it,
and they jogged my memory because I remember you bringing
these up. And unless I'm remembering wrong, what do you
know about the Richard Day tapes again? And are are
they real? Because I know, like for for things like this,
there's a lot of people who say yay, they say nay,
what it's your take on the whole thing.
Speaker 7: I think they're real because I did go and verify
that that guy really was the head of Planned Parenthood
back at the time. Everything in those lectures that was
recorded by one of the participants in the event does
affirm pretty much what's happened in the world. So you know,
the last twenty thirty forty years lines up with maybe
not every single thing, but a lot of what was
in the Day tape. So I think that we could
surmise that it was a very accurate retelling and recounting
of what they had planned in terms of rocket Color
foundation and sort of reorganizing society in terms of depopulation, Malthusianism,
various you know, medical procedures.
Speaker 3: Shall we say, yeah, all.
Speaker 7: Those things are mentioned as things that should be promoted planned,
and even things like social disintegration and pressure from above,
pressure from below, which are different strategies for causing kind
of social chaos to you know, problem reaction solution bring
in the answer.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 3: I remember we were talking about this a lot around
the time that we were doing Brave New World together,
and that's probably going to pomp up a couple of
times along the way with our talk tonight, because it's
one of those things where what I learned from you
when we came together to read the book and analyze
the book is that most people growing up when we
read either you know, nineteen eighty four or any of
George Orwell's stuff or Huxley, most people think it's a
warning about a future that could be from somebody who
actually wants to prevent it. And I learned it it
was actually an apologetic and these are things that have
been in many ways laid out in kind of creepy ways.
And even though, like I even mentioned the the Albert
Pike letters, there's a lot of discussion whether or not
those are real, whether or not they're real or it's
when you look at the chronology of four told events
of three World Wars. There's a lot that make you think, Yeah,
I mean, I.
Speaker 7: Don't really put a whole lot of stock in those letters.
They seem to be a little much, you know. I
think the dating is weird with the terminology, but even still,
I mean kind of what's in there, loosely speaking, kind
of matches up to I think what the technocrats have
planned for a global governance, for an integrated world federation,
you know, a socialist EU style structure that the rest
of the world would then have, and we're seeing right now,
for example, in England. You know, Kure Starmer is an
open Fabian socialist. I've been talking about Fabian socialism for many,
many years, over a decade, and that's sort of what
they wanted to roll out in the EU and in
the UK especially and then reintegrate and reorganize society on
that basis. I think that you know, what we're seeing
over there is kind of what they would like to
do in North America probably all the continents as well,
if they can get you know, all their agenda through.
Speaker 3: Would anything in the Richard Day tapes fall under specific
operations that you listed in your your top ten, because
I would love to go through those soon. But since
this came up, I figure I just throw it into
the mix to start us off.
Speaker 11: Said that again, do anything that was.
Speaker 3: In the richer Day tapes does any of that operation?
Does that fall under any Does any of the stuff
in those tapes fall under any specific operation out of
the ten for say, per se that you that you listed,
I listed, yeah, or it's just like sprays its just
let me my list out here, I got here.
Speaker 7: I don't know that anything would be a direct necessary parallel,
except that the Rockefeller Foundation plays a key role in
the strand, the planning and strategies of the day you
know discussions and the origins of the CIA and the
USS do directly relate to the Rockefeller family and what
they pretty much funded and helped to establish. Dad Rockfeller
brags about that in his memoirs. For example, he himself,
by the way, he used to be an intelligence operative
in the Army when he was younger. So I would say,
if anything, elements of MK Ultra I think played into
the Day tapes, because even though the day discussions were
not about mind control operators and that kind of stuff,
the research that was derived from a lot of the
mk Ultra studies dealt with social engineering and social control,
so that could be one element of it. Paper Clip
is possible too, because of course paper Clip is nineteen
forty five to nineteen fifty nine, and that involved importing
a lot of the Tiny Mustache Men higher ups and
trying to, you know, derive a lot of their engineering
scientific knowledge for the US and for the West. And
so I would imagine a lot of the ideas about genetics,
genetic modification, breeding, breeding science, Malfusianism, dysgenics. Probably a lot
of that came from some of the paper Clip people,
and that would have overlapped with the day tapes and
maybe just loosely some of the others, but I think
for the most part those would be the most relevant
to the day tapes.
Speaker 3: Well, you brought up two out of the ten. Paper
Clip was that's been in the news recently with all
the Argentina stuff, that there might be a declassification of
some of Tiny Mustache Man's vacation plans. And then also
mk Ultra as well, we heard about remote also remote
viewing of the Arc of the Covenant, the CIA faking
alien abductions that's been published about again recently, and then
I saw you put out this top ten. I said, bingo,
so let's tie it all together, paper Clip, mk Ultra.
What are the other eight I'd love to get through
some of those.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't put these in any definite order. They're
just kind of the top ten that I picked out
of twenty that are declassified, so all twenty are pretty wild.
And then I tried to kind of just randomly pick
the ones that I thought were the top ten, but
in no specific orders. So of course we have mk Ultra,
which is probably the most famous up there with perhaps
paper Clip. And this is the dozens of universe cities,
dozens of academic institutions that were intent upon basically studying
the human psyche and mastering it and then sort of
exporting that ideology into mass formation psychosis, you know, psychological engineering.
And we can find parallels, for example, with World War
two era psychological warfare theorists like Juice Merlo. We did
a lecture through his entire book. He was a World
War two psychological warfare excerpt for the Allies and he
wrote on that topic. There's also Operation Mockingbird from the
forties to the seventies, and this is of course the
CAA buying off journalists throughout the Cold War to make
sure that the journalists is about four or five hundred
throughout the world. Would repeat the CIA line. That doesn't
mean that I think that Soviets were the good guys,
are the unpro communists.
Speaker 11: But throughout that period you do have.
Speaker 7: The subversion of journalism from the forties all the way
to the seventies, and it was a pretty widespread program.
And I would say that even though this this program
Mockingbird end of the nineteen seventies, we have the same
analog to that with like Mockingbird two point zero, with
all of the you know, big players and big entities,
you know, shutting down social media, you know, censoring and
banning social media that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: What about what about Hollywood in itself, because of course
news media being in every newsroom in the country and
that that's that's one thing. But when was it was it? Uh,
you know, we hear about Independence Day or Close Encounters
the Third kind or anything else like that, where there
this is an era where when you start talking about
and putting movies out there about sensitive subjects, about whether
it be an extraterrestrial life or high technology or anything
like that. There's usually some sort of a government attasha
that's there to to give you all of the ins
and outs to make it more believable, but to also
not to give people too much. We heard about that.
When did that become from your research? A little bit more?
A little bit more, I don't know, I would say normal.
Speaker 7: Well, one of the projects that would relate to that
would be projects Stargate, because even though Stargate is not
explicitly about aliens, the idea was that from nineteen seventy
eight to nineteen ninety five they would be studying the occult,
so it wasn't just remote viewing. They were studying all
kinds of different techniques. If you watch the movie Minister
at Goats, that's kind of based on this type of
project where the Army, the Central Research Institute, First Earth Battalion,
they were looking into all these different mentalism and psychic
abilities and telekinesis and remote viewing and astral projection and
possibly also things relating to LSD hallucinogens and if you
combine that with Gateway Process, which was also declassified not
too long I think it's from the early eighties. This
talks about transittal meditation, it talks about biofeedback, biohacking, meditation
and so forth to achieve you know, these esoteric enlightened states,
and could this be weaponized and could we create size spies?
And the Soviets even had their own size spy programs,
So there was kind of a mirror project going on
in the Cold War with the Soviets doing their size
spies and the West, the CIA, doing their size spies.
And I think that a lot of that, maybe even inadvertently,
does tie into like the UFO phenomenon, because a lot
of the people who would be doing these meditation sessions
and these LSD type studies and research or DMT the
float tanks, you know with John Z Lilly, they would
think they were contacting beings and entities. So a lot
of times they did, oh, this is the aliens, right,
So they would just to make a one to one
assumption that the beings that they're contacting must be the
same as the beings that are happening throughout the FOO
fighter UFO phenomena. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's
I mean, I think there is overlap, and I think
that the whole, the whole UFO phenomenon pretty much comes
out of all this MK ultra research.
Speaker 11: You know, they want to give they want to.
Speaker 7: Give everybody a new ideology in the West and in
the world, a new religion.
Speaker 3: I guess we could just jump right there real quick.
Then then perhaps we can go back to and it
doesn't have to be the ten that you picked. It
could be any of the crazy twenty, because I'd love
to hear a little bit more of this. Is that
it's a review, but there's also some stuff I had
forgotten about or never heard about at all. But when
it comes to intelligence services in the space programs, a
lot of esoteric background. There no doubt paper Clip had
been brought up again, like I said with the Argentina News,
and of course paper Clip was the lifeblood of the
space race. But when it comes to the NASA base
syop theories, they are a plenty. And I just wonder,
because you know, I never talked about this, but just
the nature of this to begin with, like the nature
of space in general, I don't know what your take
on the whole thing is. Have we even been to space,
do you believe?
Speaker 7: I mean, I would definitely think that there are satellites,
and probably there is the ability to go into low
Earth orbit. I'm pretty much a skeptic about a lot
of other stuff. I think NASA was in some way
a kind of affront to cover for Cold War stuff.
But and probably they were erecting a lot of the
global spying infrastructure. As my view as to what they
were doing in Cold War under the cover of NASA
and space, I think they were setting up like the
Star Wars Defense Initiative and that kind of stuff. But
but I mean beyond that, I don't really I mean,
I think a lot of the space stuff was just
Cold War propaganda. I don't have any set opinions on
the structure of the universe or how it works or
what's really going I have no idea what's really going
on out there, So I'm an agnostic skeptic on those
kinds of questions. But I do think that there's a
pretty deep rabbit hole that you can go down when
it comes to you know, NASA during the Cold War
and how well it functioned as a kind of a
propaganda tool. But as to how advanced these space tech
really is, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: What do you think about other things like you may
have not even dipped in into this at all, but
it's very hard to miss these things if you're spending
any considerable amount of time on the Internet. But things
like the Challenger disaster in nineteen eighty six, there's a
really compelling theory that a lot of those astronauts, if
not all of them, are still alive and have been
under assumed identities as teachers and whatever since then. I
see the pictures, the side by sides. I don't know
if they're real, but they're of course, like on everything,
there's a split. And given all of the NASA based
psyop theories that are out there, that was one of
the one that was one of the really compelling ones
that I always want to know a little bit more about.
I didn't know if that was something that ever tickled
your fancy.
Speaker 7: I'm familiar with this theory in this analysis, I don't
know a whole lot about what the truth is. I mean,
I could see large scale kind of deception at that level.
And one of the next programs I was going to
mention actually does include large scale deception, and that's Operation
north Woods, which was a nineteen sixty two program that
would stage a giant fake flag event. It included fake
news stories to go along with the event. It included drones,
it included an airplane full of dead bodies, and this
is going to be a fake trr our event blamed
on Cuba. And it was signed off by LL Linitzer,
who was formerly the Joint Chieve Staff I think under
Kennedy and then he was also the Supreme Allied Commander
of NATO.
Speaker 3: But that's a big one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was the one proposing north Woods. They didn't
actually go with it, but what it shows us is
that they've had these large scale style ops and psyops
for a while a long time that you know, and
this is just kind of basic military deception techniques. So
it's possible. I don't know what the motive or the
advantage would be to staging the shuttle blowing up event.
I would be interested to know what the what they
gained from that if it was a outside the realm
of possibility, given the fact that north Woods exists.
Speaker 3: For sure, And perhaps when we open up the lines
for calls later on, we'll see if something comes through
and I'll uh, I'll let you know what comes in
it that because that'd be interesting so north Woods, let's
do two more, because I'd love to if there's anything
in there that's obscure but really interesting that people should
know about, that'd be awesome because then I want to
move on to some of the stuff that's in esoteric
Hollywood three, because there's a lot of overlap between these
intelligence services and the messaging that's going out to common
viewing audiences, so that this is going to be a
good one. Oh do you want to do two more?
Speaker 11: You cut out? I'm sorry?
Speaker 10: What was Oh?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? No, I said after we to do two
more of these? Uh, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, and then
we'll go into Hollywood three.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was just pulling up my list of the I
don't even remember all the contents, and there's somehow I
got to pull up the table of contest to remember it.
But so let's say we did Northwood's. Next would be
paper Cliff.
Speaker 8: We did that.
Speaker 11: Next one is we did Stargate.
Speaker 3: I mentioned that, so you know what Jay with Stargate
with Stargate because you and I did a lot on Gladio.
But I want to ask you about some psychological stuff.
I know that in the past when you were on
the show you had mentioned that in you know, earlier
on in life you had you have done some psychedelics.
Is that that's true, right? You said that, right?
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well I was a teenager, right exactly so.
Speaker 3: And now obviously you your your life has taken you
into so many different places, and you are a leading
voice online for Orthodox Christianity, and and I really appreciate
all of you know, everything you tie together. I think
it's really interesting that you have that background of that
that type of experience. Do you look at any of
those experiences, having you know, done those you know, taking
hallucinogens in the past, is there anything that ever hinted
at you that this was more than just a trick
of the mind or is there a spiritual element to things?
Do you feel that you were in that state opened
up or maybe vulnerable to something other than just what
the mind produces under the influence of psilocybin or something
else like that, or is there actually a spiritual element
to these substances?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 7: Well, Stargate was the one I mentioned about remote viewing,
so you know, it kind of overlaps with a lot
of the stuff that mk LTRA was interested in, including
the research into the entheagens and the hallucinogens, and yeah,
my own experience, I had a bad trip the first
time I did it, and I felt like that was
definitely demonic looking back on it. There was communication with
some kind of being an entity that was just a
point of light.
Speaker 11: And that was when I was about.
Speaker 7: Seventeen or eighteen, and I did acid maybe four or
five more times after that. So that was pretty much
the extent of my hallucinogen trials so speak. I mean,
it wasn't trials. We're just idiot teenagers partying, so but
you know, I'm liking it too, like an mk ultra
type experiment. But the other experiences weren't bad trips. They
were just kind of goofy silly times. But the first
time was definitely a bad trip. And I do think
that you can't have those opening up experiences where you
do experience something like that. I would not recommend that.
In fact, I've always been opposed to those things ever since,
you know, my youth coming out of that stuff. So
I've never gone back and done any illucinogen's never had
the desire to do it. I think it's really dangerous
something something that people shouldn't play with. But that's a
pretty common type of experience with d MT, with these
various you know, high powered tollucinogens. People you know, go
out of body and they see the d MT clockwork
elves and they see the you know, the gods and
the beings and the entities. And the thing about that
is that they usually tell people a false message. You know,
they usually say something like, we're here to help you.
If you, you know, listen to us, we can solve
earths problems. You got to depopulate, you need a world government,
you got to have a New Age religion. So you
get the same kind of demonic I would say influence,
and I don't I don't see how you could explain
it or why that would be there if there wasn't
a spiritual basis underlying these phenomena these experiences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's become very it's a very very important
cultural point too when it comes to especially movies. Obviously, well,
you can read all you want about MK Ultra. I mean,
there's a little bit more on Charles Manson that's been
coming out lately, some threads that have been put out
that I think were really interesting, and how much control
was there? What what's the what was the whitey Bulger?
We were learning a lot about these.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was part of m culture in prison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And there's so much of this here too.
It be mind control or whether it be just using
these substances to to break a person and to help
make them disassociate in some way that can. So I
just thought that is really an interesting background for somebody
like you where you are right now, to have had
those experiences so early on, and I just never asked
you what you concluded from them, whether it was just
a goofy time or if you thought that, no, there
there was a doorway that you can that you can
access through this and it's probably one to stay away
from if you can.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's that's what you know, opening that third
eye or you know what what the occult or the yoga,
the kundalini, all that kind of stuff I think is
hitting at similar things, and it's not necessarily a good thing.
I don't I don't think you should do that kind
of stuff. I think the people who are you know,
in saying the Orthodox Church, yet people are spiritually advanced
and they have, you know, experiences of experiencing God directly.
I guess you could say that kind of stuff that's
kind of when you're at an advanced spiritual state, you
don't try to induce it through shortcut means of drugs
and stuff. So that's that's what I think I learned
as I've gotten older, is that a lot of that thing,
a lot of that stuff that dupes young people is
they think they're kind of going to kind of get
like a shortcut to spiritual enlightenment through these kinds of substances,
a lot of the you know, psychedelic bros. And that
sphere of stuff, and I really think it's all just
kind of a delusion, and it's also dangerous, you know,
opening up yourself to spiritual forces and deception.
Speaker 3: Well, this is why I wanted to talk to you
about at least two off the bat movies that you
have listed in the table of contents for Hollywood Esoteric
Hollywood three, and both of them are Christopher Nolan films.
And one of my favorites is The Prestige. We'll get
to that in just a second. But the other one
that I well, the second one was actually not the
Christopher Nolan film. It was the Fountain. Yeah, and this now,
I'm glad you have this on your list. A friend
of mine suggested this movie to me years ago. Got
Hugh Jackman Rachel Weiss in it, and it combines themes
of immortality, these two souls bonded through multiple lifetimes. But
on a simpler level, it's more there's a lot of
about acceptance of loss, soaking up relatively short time you
have with people you love and all that. But it's
bitterly sad, but at the same time it's gorgeous. And
I'm just I'm curious to you about what came through
to you on this one, because it is like a one.
It is one big trip, and I there's things that
make me unsettled about it, and I just want to
see what you articulate first on that one.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's an interesting movie.
Speaker 7: It's Darren Aronofsky, who is kind of admittedly somewhat of
a cobbylist. You know, I think amongst directors, you have
a handful of directors that are kind of well own
that are pretty openly esoteric, occultic type practitioner followers, believers.
You've got ari astor to some degree. Who did you
know Midsommar and Hereditary. You've got Darren Aronofsky who's into Kabbala.
He did Pie Noah black Swan, and then he did
The Fountain, and there's a couple others like Robert Eggers
that did The Witch and no Saratu, and they're all
pretty openly interested in the occult. But I think that
in this film he's tying Native American mythology Aztec Inca
Mia mythology into the idea of the tree of life
in the garden, and it's combined with Buddhist philosophy and thought,
and it's combined with reincarnation, perhaps from the Kabbala or
from Eastern mysticism. It's hard to say, but I think
all of those kind of are wrapped up in this
idea that your soulmate perhaps is what completes you, and
that you're going to go through these life cycles until
you find that complement to your personality and to who
you are, and then that's what helps you to achieve
the sort of nirvana state or whatever it is. But
I did like the way that the film, just on
a cinematic level and in a symbolic way, the way
it's done, I think it's an interesting film, so that's
why I included it in the analysis, was that there's
not a whole lot of films that have, you know,
philosophical symbolical depth, so it needed to be in there.
And it's from a couplistic director, so that's why I
put the film there.
Speaker 3: You know, I when it comes to move like that,
and I like it. It's one of those movies where
I think it's one of those things I would watch
maybe once every ten years, because it's just it takes
a lot out of you, especially with the sick wife,
and there's just so many things happening there. But I
think the thing that really makes me uncomfortable is the
depiction of space, the space in between worlds or what
comes after death or in this case, what comes in
between lives, and it's always so it makes me feel
so it's surreal, and it's isolating in that surreal feeling
as well, it's almost like it almost like it's a
form of hell in and of itself because you're always alone.
The main character is always alone, he's always struggling through something.
There's nobody there, Whereas at the end of a movie
like Ghost with Patrick Swayzey. You know, there's that you
get that swell of emotion and acceptance at the end,
no doubt, but you see Patrick Swayzey, he goes to
heaven and you're left with the assurances that, all right,
yeah this stings, but you're gonna see him again. But
movies like The Fountain, it just the suggestion that we're
just going to be lost in a bewildering, bewildering feedback
loop of soul recycling. It makes my stomach just sink
into my shoes and that's where I walk away from.
Maybe some people see it differently, but that's it's a trip.
That's why the first thing I thought about was this
movie when we were talking about LSD.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've never seen any really convincing argumentation for reincarnation.
I always thought it to be kind of a silly position.
I mean, where are we getting the new souls from
if everything's just kind of being recycled. It kind of
doesn't make sense. But yeah, I mean it's an ancient,
you know, Hindu sort of pagan view and it ties
into pantheism and these kind of you know and ultimately
called animistic animistic doctrines.
Speaker 11: So Yeah, it's it's an interesting film.
Speaker 7: I mean, I like you, I might rewatch it every
ten years or so, but I mean I think there's
some other, you know, really fascinating films in there.
Speaker 11: What's another one you wanted.
Speaker 3: To talk about? The Prestige, Yeah, that one of my
ahead No, I was that this is one of my
favorites right here. So I want to know what comes
through with you, because there's there's a lot that I
can pick from you. These two obsessive, competing magicians that
are willing to throw it all away to destroy each
other personally or whatever. Professionally, you got these little hits
of high science. David Bowie as Nikola Tesla was perfect.
Then of course there's all these ethical dilemmas, but there's
it's psychological too, because everything is an illusion. They as
Hugh Jackman says in that movie as well about Borden,
he lives his act. So you don't know who's getting
gas lit and you don't know what's happening there. And uh,
I'm just curious what your biggest nuggets you took away
from that one is.
Speaker 7: I did a pretty lengthy, pretty deep analysis and it
was written some years backside to kind of rewrite some
of it. But yeah, the first I don't know, one, two, three, four, five,
the first six chapters of my book, which the chapters
have got short, so I don't know. It's like the
first thirty forty pages of the third book deals with
Nolan films, and I think that, you know, No One
was really at his peak in the two thousands.
Speaker 11: I don't think that.
Speaker 7: The more recent No. One films have been very good.
I'm not a huge fan of Oppenheimer, but I do
think that Inception Interstellar were good. A lot of people
don't like Interstellar. Batman Tulogy was good, and I think
the Prestige was really good. And it's operating, I think,
on multiple levels. So on one level, it's telling us
the story, as you mentioned about these magicians that are competing,
and I'm sure everybody's perhaps seen it, so I'm not
going to be spoiling anything if I talk about how
the twist the reveal. You know, it says this three
stage process to it, and the reveal is, of course,
the that they were twin brothers. Right, so this whole
time there was two of them. You never really knew
that or realized that, but they were so devoted to
their craft that they both lived their whole lives hiding
the secret of their being twin brothers.
Speaker 11: And the Tesla stuff is weird is kind.
Speaker 7: Of thrown in there as an odd side thing, but
it's also kind of clue because the idea in the
Tesla tech stuff played by David Bowie of Ball People,
is that somehow there's cloning. So it's like the Tesla
teleportation electromagnetic field disturbance free energy stuff that Tesla is
doing somehow is like causing multiple people if you try
to teleport or whatever, then you get like two, three,
four twenty David Bowies. So it's like, on the one hand,
it's playing with the reality of technology getting us to
this almost godlike status at the same time as the
magicians doing this sort of stage routine that's a deception
and the real science is sort of hidden from everybody.
Everybody's following and playing attention to the magicians, and you've
got this, you know, almost godlike magic that's real magic
from the Tesla tech in the film.
Speaker 11: So there's a lot of different weird.
Speaker 7: Layers and things going on as to how realistic or
exactly what is going on with Tesla. Oh, that's clouded
in mythology. Now it's hard to determine exactly, you know,
what Tesla was up to and what's authentically fully his
and whether the Navy's.
Speaker 11: You know, shut all this down.
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we know that wireless stuff comes from Tesla,
and we wouldn't have the Internet without Tesla. And but
is did he create free energy?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe did he create cloning from multiverse entities?
Speaker 11: And being about that, But.
Speaker 7: My main analysis focuses on the way that humans in
the audiences perceive things in the stage show and in
the film, and how the state, the establishment, the corporate
media does the same thing to us. We're viewing the
magic show and the script writers, like the intelligence agencies
and you know, the powers that be, the oligarchs, they're
sort of writing the script and doing the three stage
model the film to us.
Speaker 3: And to be honest, I think that is That's what
a lot of people would say the purpose of staging
something like a Challenger disaster would be because it's you know,
all eyes are in the sky. It's emotional, it reaffirmed,
you know, it makes you wonder, Okay, well, are we
just going to give up when we hit us a
bump in the road, or are we going to continue
on in conquer space? You know, it's what they would
want to do, you know, creating new heroes all that.
But it's perfectly said, because of course we're this. I
think this takes place around the very last years of
the nineteenth century, and it's obviously there's no television or
just a couple of decades before radio started becoming a
little bit more a little bit more accessible to people,
and it's just the night at the theater and how
are people how's it being advertised in the papers? And
it's it's a great thing that, you know, speaking of
the last days of the nineteenth century. Have you done
a breakdown on the Sherlock Holmes the Robert Downey Junior
Shirlock Holmes movies.
Speaker 7: I did a video on that many years ago. I
think the video is still on my channel. So there
is a video about It's about twelve or thirteen minute
esoteric analysis of the the first Sharlock Holmes. There's sort
of a Lord Blackwood character that's based on Crowley, and
he's trying to bring in this magical aon at the
end of time. He's going to be this god figure
in the quasi Masonic secret society that he works with,
is right, He's got them all duped into believing that
he has these magical powers, very similar to kind of
the theme of the Prestige. And of course, you know
Sherlock undermines all that and uses science to disseminate or
too me to destroy the disinformation that Lord Blackwood is
engaging in. And Part two is also interesting because it's
about the powers that be sort of causing World War
One and funding both sides, with Moriarty sort of being
this figure he's tied into the arms factories that are
funding both sides of World War One and the assassination
of Franz Ferdinand to kick off the war. So I
enjoyed both of those. Other were well made, and Guy
Ritchie is a good directory. He makes pretty good films overall.
But I do think the first one was the most
sort of esoteric and a lot of references to you know,
Crowleyan type colts going on. But I didn't include that
in this book, but it is on my channel as
an analysis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are great. Those are great, and for all
those reasons, it's kind of chilling in the second one
when they're all in the artillery yard or wherever the
hell it was, and you start realizing that this is
this is a building up toward World War One. They're
just on the opposite side of nineteen hundred or whatever
the hell it is. And it's pretty crazy almost, you know,
you almost be like tipping your cap to when they
did when they brought Daniel Craig on to be Double
O seven and when they did Casino Royale and he's
getting a little bit of a debrief with by Moneypenny
by Am over there at right when they're still in
the Bahamas, and she was talking about what was going
on with the the air bus that was going to
be blown up because Leschief had shorted all the airline
stocks with the terrorist money, and she actually referenced to
the shorting of stocks the night before nine to eleven.
I said, holy shit, I mean that's that even back then.
I said, that's pretty bold right there, because yeah, these
are these are these are big, uh, these are big
rolls of the dice that we see happening throughout history
that most people are just told, oh that's nothing, it's
just it happens.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the screenwriters pretty much of most of
the Bond films are pretty aware of what's going on
because they have almost always laced the films and the
narratives with real events and real things and real quote conspiracies.
That's one of the many examples. I think in my
first book, I did quite a bit of Bond that
there's about sixty seventy pages of Bond stuff in my
first esoteric Hollywood book. And now of course goes back
to you know, Ian Fleming being naval intelligence and for
the British and then British Intelligence basically putting a lot
of his own personal experience into those stories, describing what
he had seen, but fictionalizing it and making it somewhat
propaganda as well. So I'm not saying that the Bond
stories tell you everything, but you do get you know,
like Hugo Drax and these sorts of characters that are
you know, kind of like Bill Gates or Epstein type
characters who you know, they want to depopulate everybody, They
want to create their own new human race. They want
to be the God Adam figure to a new race.
You know, if you watch Moon Raker for example, and
then we see you know, in reality, you have people
that are really like that, they really want to do that.
So there's a lot of truth in those stories and
in those films. But for this one, spy wise, I
did include a pretty significant espionage section. And this time
I went with all of the tom Cruise Mission Impossible films,
so I did an analysis of all of them. It's
towards the end, it's maybe, I don't know, a ten
fifteen page analysis of all those. I did the Saint,
which I think is a nineties class that you know,
the bal Kilmer Churs Balkimer just passed away, but Elizabeth
Shuvalkilmer in The Saint. I really enjoyed the nineteen ninety
seven version of that, and that is a lot of
esoteric alchemical stuff. And and he's Simon Templar. He's named
after the Gnostic, you know, Magas in the Book of Acts.
So there's a lot going on espionage wise in Esther
Hollywood three as well.
Speaker 3: But what about the Total Recall. I see nineteen, I
see the nineteen ninety Total I never saw the the remake,
but total Recall. I can just imagine where that all goes, given,
you know, implanted memories of you know, being able to
go somewhere and have a memory of vacation implanted into
your mind, and then to show up at the memory
bank and actually have a suppressed memory come forward that
you actually were on Mars and and then I mean, Manny,
it goes into the deep of the deep ends after that.
I love that movie.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did watch the new one, and I actually
wrote back when it came out, the remake most people
didn't really like it, the one with Colin Ferrell. I
did a little analysis of it on my website back
in the day. But no, this is an analysis actually
of the original. And yeah, I mean I get into
mk Eltri stuff.
Speaker 11: I get into the idea of you know, Philip K.
Speaker 7: Dick was playing with matrix type ideas before the Matrix,
And if you watch All Recall, it's interesting because until Recall,
the red pill is a bad thing because the red
pill is going to pot wake him up. But it's
actually not designed to do that, right because in the film,
you know, the main Arnold Schwarzenegger character, he doesn't know
whether he's still in the matrix or whether he's out
of it.
Speaker 11: So it's kind of a matrix before the matrix type
of plot.
Speaker 7: And you know, it's a classic, you know, eighties ninety
I forget exactly it might be right on the bridge
of eighties and ninety but future dystopia and a lot
of mars Ufo crap that I think is just kind
of propaganda. But but yeah, I think the main point
that PKD was after, and that was the danger of
a society that becomes obsessed with the synthetic and retreating
into technology and that being kind of a synthetic version
of our bliss that could entrap us. And that was
way before the matrix.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Yeah, what do you think
about speaking of synthetic and this is another rabbit hole?
Do you ever give any any thought to celebrity cloning theories?
Because I always keep an open mind with this. There's
always a video or a slide show of people come.
I just saw this latest video that came across my,
uh my feed on on Instagram that was a side
by side with Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things and
Elizabeth Perkins from Big and I said, holy shit, I mean,
it's it's nuts and it there's so many of those examples.
Now I'm open to this and I'm going to give
you a couple of reasons why, but I just want
to see what what you have thought about this from
because whether they're being cloned or whether it's just about
conditioning and handling. On a psychological level, there's there's a
there's a lot of manipulation going on amongst starlits for
a long time. So just wanted to see where you're
at with this.
Speaker 7: Personally, I'm a skeptic about clones. I'm not convinced that
and I'm saying in general whether there really is cloning
because I've looked it into it some and usually when
they say, you know, oh, we've we've grown the ear
of a human inside the back of a mouse, and
then you go and read into it and it's like
they actually just stuck the cartilage of a year underneath
the back of the mouse, so it's like that's not
really growing an air. And then when you read about
like when they say they've cloned Dolly or one of
these sheets or whatever, or this pig is you know,
five percent clone pig or.
Speaker 11: Whatever, like when you look into it, they're they're actually.
Speaker 7: Just saying that it's like zero point two percent DNA
of some other thing or you know what I mean.
Speaker 11: It's like, it's not very convincing to me that necessarily
there is cloning. But I don't know. I don't have
a set opinion.
Speaker 7: I've just not seen it, so I don't know whether
it's real or not. Just a skeptical on a lot
of this stuff. I was in terms of Hollywood pe people,
I doubt it. There are body doubles though, so this
is something that we can verify. We do know exist,
like powerful figures, maybe even Hollywood people if they're like
super high level, you know, super a lists, like probably
a Tom Cruise or something like that. Like I could
see Tom Cruise paying somebody to be a body double,
you know, say he's getting death threats, say he's got
a stalker, so something like this, Right, maybe Tom Cruise
pay somebody to you know, appear an event, just smile
and walk down a red carpet or something. And that's
not far fetched because we've seen world leaders on record
have body doubles. So Dom Hussein famously had multiple body doubles.
And so if heads of states do it, which are
in more of a dangerous position probably than an actor,
I could see, you know, that's definitely true, but I
would think they have maybe a body double over cloning.
But I've not seen the picture that you're talking about
with the girl from Big and Millie Bubby.
Speaker 3: Well, i'll maybe i'll at the end when we're getting off,
I'll put it up there just for shits and giggles.
But the reason why I'm open to this stuff is
because when you think about what has already been thrown
out there just in the name of transhumanism, and you know,
genetic modification of things, or people trying to identify what
could be an issue for somebody down the line and
taking preventative measures to alter the body or augmentation in
some way. There's a lot of these weird Frankensteinish things
going on. Obviously that's a lot different than wholesale cloning
of a person or of an animal. But you and
I were talking about mechanized reproduction in twenty twenty three,
right as we finish Brave New World, and shortly after
that we got word of the baby lambs being sustained
in artificial placentas, and I brought you back on we talked. Now,
of course, here's the whole thing. There's the stated purpose
for what the hell they say, say that it's all
about this, of course, was that hopefully one day premature
babies can have some time inside of these artificial amniotic
sacs instead of being in an incubator somewhere if they're
born premie. Last month we had MIT. This was a
Now you can say, this is probably gonna be bullshit
on the face of it. Will it ever happen, I
don't know, but the fact that it's coming from MIT
is pretty interesting. They've been talking about spare bodies that
they wanted to create. They call them bodyoids. They're essentially brainless,
spiritless bodies, bodies that would revolutionize the way that we
harvest organs or even provide meat. It was really crazy
what they put out there. And it's MIT this week
cloning experience experiments through the guise of de extinction, you know,
as if the world needs dire wolves. I'm sure you
saw that. And again, that's one of those things where
if this thing doesn't grow up to be the size
of a rhinoceros, then I'm not going to believe that
this was some extinct DNA of a wolf.
Speaker 7: That was yeah, well I read on the wolf thing.
That was another kind of misnumber, like they were saying
it was this, but it's like, oh no, this is
actually just a wolf and suppose it has like part
of the dire I don't know, it wasn't. Actually it
didn't sound like actually what they were claiming it was
the one I read into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. So that's what I'm saying. There is,
like you said, the show in the prestige, and then
there is what's the science that's actually being worked on
behind the scene. What did they get from this little stunt.
I'm sure something was gleaned from it that would be
useful for some other projects. While we were given the
first dial dire wolf howl that was ever heard in
ten thousand years and everybody went Google gaga over it,
but what was really achieved? And then I believe on
the same day as the we got the headlines about
the wolf, we got the headlines from the NHS in
the UK about a baby, the first baby that was
born by way of wound transplant. And I mean, I
don't I'm telling you man. As far as mechanized reproduction,
Brave New World stuff goes, it seems like all the
all the pieces are are lining up.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean that seems more likely than.
Speaker 7: That there are all these clone people walking around. I mean,
but again, maybe maybe I just don't know enough about it.
I just I don't even know how given that there's
so much bull crap out there, Like, I don't even
know how I would how would I, as an observer
even go about verifying, you know, whether any of this
is real because I don't trust claims of MI I T.
I mean, they put out bogus science bull crap all
the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I T, so, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised. I would say this problem that
probably does exist synthetic womb, I could see.
Speaker 11: That being real.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know where this is all that
that's heading right there, Brave New World. Yeah, that's that's
That's not This is not going to be nearly about
giving women a Uh. This is going to be for whoever,
whoever wants a womb is going to be able to
get a womb.
Speaker 11: One day.
Speaker 3: You're gonna put it in there.
Speaker 11: Yeah, good point.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's yeah, that's what I'm just saying. It's uh,
it's nutty, and it all goes along with messaging and
what is being massaged into the psyche of the of
the public. And of course, not only is the news
a big part of that, but the movies as well.
Do you do you see anything breaking on that Because
you're big into I mean, you do a lot of
comedy writing, you help produce other shows, not only yours.
I know you work with Sam Hyde and and uh
and we also we also have a lot of mutual
friends that are into filmmaking. And a lot has changed
in the last few years, aside from just new media
and how people are getting information and intellectual debate and
all that stuff. As someone who covers esoteric Hollywood so much,
where do you see movie making as far as balance
of power shifting in the next ten years. Is it
possible to shift the bounds of power against this that
kind of moneyed interest.
Speaker 7: Maybe not without a transfer of wealth. So I mean
maybe if people you know, get into bigcoin and we
have this massive well transfer, which I think bigcoin is
the one of the future. I mean ten years from now,
I would expect one bitcoin to be ten million dollars
perhaps or more per coin. So maybe when we've got
the money, we can start funding more wholesome.
Speaker 11: Artworks.
Speaker 7: But for the meantime, I think the old studio system
of Hollywood is pretty much done for a lot of
the Hollywood people are kind of admitting that, and now
it's just turning into video games, and you know, the
big tech companies having their own studios, so Amazon Studios,
Apple Studios, Netflix.
Speaker 11: You know what I mean.
Speaker 7: It's basically tech streaming companies that are the new studio system.
But you know, amongst the gen Z, it's weird. They
don't really like movies, which is a new bizarre thing
because mostly their attention spans have been destroyed from TikTok
and scrolling, so they don't have the ability to sit
through a movie. So that's going to be a weird
phenomena to go through ten twenty years from now when
the gen Z or the you know, culture bearers, will
they even be making movies or will we just have
like thirty minute movies that are from TikTok?
Speaker 11: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I absolutely and I see it in the demograph.
I don't know what the how much you I have
to assume you do study the metrics on all of
your YouTube and everything else there too. I think that
the generational splits in media consumption just based on what
I'm able to collect on my YouTube, because Google provides
the best metrics out of all of the streaming platforms
out there, hands down, it is night and day. As
far as who's now, I understand that. Also big tech
companies and you know, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, they are prioritizing short,
punchy two minutes in less content because people want to
be able to digest this in a you know, doom
scroll real reel to reel kind of a thing there. Right, So,
the culture right now, by way of algorithm and dopamine
and how the brain works, the culture right now is
going to short attention span. That is what we are
primed for. And you can see it especially in my
metrics there too. There's all whoever is watching my show
between the ages of eighteen and twenty five, they're mostly
watching my highlights, the shorts and all that stuff. They
are most of that. It almost is like switching on
a light switch in a room from on to off
when it goes to the long form content. And that
is just immediately people about thirty to sixty five at
that point who are watching long form conversation, and it
has to be it has to be tied into a
lot of that stuff because I know it's generational at
this point, maybe a one day it lengthens. But are
you seeing that on your end?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with. I mean, I see
the metrics, the analytics, like you're saying, and I don't think.
I mean, I do almost all long form content, you know,
on my channel. I do have some, you know, short stuff,
but I'm just looking at the metrics right now. It's
like almost all of it is, like hardly anyone lasts
more than sixteen to twenty five minutes. So my audience
is made up of almost all age forty excuse me,
age twenty.
Speaker 11: To forty.
Speaker 7: That's almost all my audience, and anyone underneath that is
very small. Anyone above that is very small. But they don't, like,
they don't watch more than fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 7: Granted, maybe the information is just not that interesting that
people want to watch it more than you know, fifteen
to twenty minutes or whatever, but that's weird because like
that means that the younger you go, the less attention
span there is, and the less that people are watching
anything long form, and they're kind of like that would
mean that something over twenty five minutes is long form content.
I mean I do like three four or five hour
debate streams. So yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well you know what, Like I said, things
change all the time, and we were young as well,
and I would had answered my pants at that time too,
and maybe I didn't want to sit down and watch anything.
But so maybe things change.
Speaker 7: But you can all get your attention span back. You
can be fixed, you can heal yourself from that.
Speaker 3: That's true, It's good, it could. And I think just
sometimes growing and needing more than just those those quick
hits of a brain rot is uh is going to
be something there too.
Speaker 7: But hey, Frank, I apologize. I'm gonna my wife has
to do something in here. She got a podcast too,
so I'm going to have to head out here in
about a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3: Oh, no problem. I was just gonna let you plug
your stuff anyway. Just in wrapping up that thought, I
was just saying that, you know, it's it's one of
those things that we all evolve along the way, and
hopefully that's that's that's that takes that takes a hold.
But you know, on the corporate side. You can see
that it's actually set up to feed into this trend
and hopefully people are able to break out of it.
Speaker 17: But right, uh, and.
Speaker 3: Moving forward, what do you got coming up? Obviously you're
always live, you're always active, and you have things that
are going to be published over the next couple of months.
And what do you have next for for Jay Dyer?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean look for the start calling with three,
you know, on my website. I'll have all that information
up and I'll talk about it on social media everywhere. Again,
don't know the exact date yet, but probably one of
two months from now it'll be out and you signed
copies at the website as well as signed copies of
Part one and two and all the other stuff there.
Continuing to you know, I'll be writing for Sam Alex Jones.
We're not exactly sure what's going on with, you know,
the battle over info Wars, so that's all kind of
up in the air. I don't know if I'll be
doing that for forever, but as far as I'm aware,
I will be doing it as long as it's available
and it exists, so I mean, Alex will always exist,
but info Wars itself may not, so I will probably
be doing some pretty big debates and appearances on whatever
podcast a couple other big podcasts out in California, San Diego,
Vegas podcasts, So that'll be coming up in the next
the next month, so you can look for that stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, safe travels, my friend, and keep kicking ass and
I'm sure we'll talk soon and all the best of
you and Jamie and uh yeah, have a good one.
All right, thanks, Ray, All right, there you go, Jaydiyer
jasonalysis dot com. Well, you know what, we lost about
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Speaker 14: Welcome to intermission. Yeah, intermission.
Speaker 10: The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you.
Speaker 3: He's fifteenth kay ten ten commandments.
Speaker 7: Quite Frankly, he's amazing.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a cat, shall we? Hey, six
one four, you're on the air. Who's this?
Speaker 9: Hey, frank this is Tim, I actually sent you the
PSA earlier.
Speaker 3: Okay, Tim, let me ask you, because I don't remember
the methanphetamine one. Is that real or did somebody just
make that and make it look like an authentic nineteen
nineties PSA?
Speaker 9: No, that was a real PSA in the nineteen nineties.
I remember that as a kid, and probably the last
one I sent you as well, and with the dog.
Both of those I remember so vividly as a kid
because instead of not wanting to do drugs, I was like,
you know what, mess sounds like a good thing if
I really want to get my house cleaning.
Speaker 3: No, I know it's not good at the end that
she's covered in lesions, But other than that, I mean
like the house looked fantastic.
Speaker 9: Oh yes, the most productive woman on her entire block.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, Tim.
Speaker 9: And the last one I sent you was the dog.
I was like, if my dog could talk to me,
I'm doing whatever they're giving me.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see here. The last one with the dog.
You know, no matter what it is, I'm going to
save it for tomorrow because I think Mike Baldwin is
going to get a kick out of it. And I
all maybe I'll look for some more PSA s. I
know that the cannabis ones with the ninja turtles. I
remember that one. I'm not a chicken, You're a turkey.
You remember that one?
Speaker 9: Yes, oh, I most definitely do. And by the way,
I want to apologize to Jay Dyer. When I seen
your post. I've seen Jay and I was speed reading,
so I immediately thought of Jamison Gulinello.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, so I.
Speaker 9: Was taking health and I'm like, oh, let me te so.
But it was Jay Dyer also awesome, awesome guests on
the show tonight, great show, Frank.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Tim and And to be honest, I
never even thought two ways about I thought you meant
Jay Dyer. Because there's something to be said about the
the the anti drug PSA messages of the late eighties
and early nineties. I mean, it was part of the
culture back then. It's of course, it's messaging from a
central authority, and it's worthy of some analysis, it really is.
Speaker 9: And saying that I am a gate kid, by the way.
Speaker 3: You really gate yes, yes, okay? So was your your
experiences in the Gate program just kind of mundane? Like
many people have told me or do you have some
very strange things that you remember, like sleep away camp stories?
Speaker 9: Uh, not sleep away camp stories. I do remember like
trying to guess the next card. I remember them teaching
me chess in second grade, and I think like second
grade kids were actually just learning like Puff the Magic Dragon,
but they were teaching us chess. But I've had multiple
instances throughout my life after that that's kind of been
very strange.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me try I think of some of
the things there too. There were there was a list
that we were working off of that A lot of
people in Gate and Tag or any of the iterations
over the years have had in common. Do you do
you have that you have?
Speaker 9: I have drowned. I have not had an Israeli girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, not just Israeli girlfriend, Israeli art student girlfriend.
Speaker 9: Art student girlfriend, no note of that. But I have drowned.
I have been in between middle school and high school.
I was invited to Washington, DC summer camp, like Youth
for Leadership or something, but we didn't have like the
money to send me and it was some weird program.
It was also through Gate.
Speaker 3: What about the back of What about the back of
your head? I believe it was almost like a cliff.
I don't know, it's it's the formation of your skull.
Does it come into like a point in the back
of your head.
Speaker 9: No, the back of my head is completely flat. And
the joke has always been it's because my parents did
love me enough but left me lying in the crisp.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 9: Oh no, it's vibe.
Speaker 3: All right. Uh okay, So last question before I let
you go. Somebody a couple of people said that they
felt that ever since they were in the program, they
have had some very unusual help from the law, like
they've gotten out of some sticky legal situations way too easily.
Speaker 11: They didn't know why.
Speaker 3: They always thought like somebody was looking out for them. Absolutely, really,
do you have any examples?
Speaker 9: I was I went to the military. There was multiple
times drinking and driving. The middle of I was pited
at lot. We were supposed to have somebody that was
a designated driver. He ended up getting drunk, of course,
so we had to figure out who's the least drunk
to drive back from Mexico to base. So I'm the
least drunk, So I'm driving, we get pulled, I get
pulled over. I'm swerving all over the road. Cop comes
up to me. I pull out my license, He looks
at it, he goes back to his car, runs me,
comes back to the car and says, hey, you guys
need to follow me back to the police station and
sleep it off in the parking lot.
Speaker 3: That's strange.
Speaker 9: And we had drove straight to the police station, and
of course he pulls out to go catch other people,
so we ended up pulling back out. I've had many
run ins with the lull where I probably should have
gotten something done, you know, tickets, and they just go
ahead and let me pass.
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, unless you had a really really cool cop,
because otherwise that that would be a knock on the
door for all of your parents or whoever the hell's
looking after you at school or your your the authorities,
whatever the hell. I forget if you said that was
when you were already in the military or before then,
but that must have been a really cool cop or somebody.
There's there's some some sort of a note attached to
your file. Who knows, who knows? Welcome, Thanks for the call.
Speaker 9: I believe there is, But I'm not gonna push my luck.
Speaker 3: No, don't don't. You're already ahead of the game. You're
playing with house money. Do me a favor. If you
find any more fun PSAs, just keep tweeting them at
me in that same thread and I'll collect them for tomorrow.
And I just want to get I think that it
would be fun to get some reaction from Mike Baldwin
when he's.
Speaker 9: On with me. Awesome, awesome, good to talk to you, Frank,
all right.
Speaker 3: Have a good one. Take care. There goes Tim. Everybody
call on in nine one four two hundred two sixty nine.
It is eight twenty nine, and uh, we got a
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All of our friends that are joining us over there too.
Jay simmos As, I've been catching up with the live
shows all week. Last night was intense. Keep it up, Frank,
thank you. I have something on last night as well.
It just came in before the show started. It was
pretty intense. The second half of the show was great.
I love talking about the tariff stuff. I think it's
exciting what's happening on that end, but it's it was
the two times that that Brandon Joe Williams was on
it has been intense only because of the volume of
stuff and also the implication of course, we're talking about
declaring sovereignty from the tax matrix. And and you know
how you stand as far as legal definition in opposition
to the United States of America, and whether or not
you pay your income taxes, how you exist in that
world without doing all that stuff. But and and that
is all well and good until we got to the
very end about the the endorsement notes, writing an endorsement
note to just drive away with new cars without any
intention of actually exchanging currency or barter or putting up
any kind of collateral to attain it. So we'll talk
about that in a second, because I got an email
before we want live all right, six four six, We
got a local yokel over here. What's going on New York?
Speaker 6: Hey, it's Larry and Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Larry, how are you go ahead?
Speaker 6: It's been a while, dude. I love when you talk
to this stuff. Man, this is my wheelhouse.
Speaker 3: Good yeah, Ja Duyer.
Speaker 6: He was right, he was right on it. I got
to call him out a little bit because I've recognized
his language over a lot of years. I know that
he's close. He's not going to talk about Fie, but
he's really close. He's already skeptic of He's a skeptic
of NASA. He's a skeptic of space. And you guys
covered the gamut tonight. I love the talking about the
movies and the predictive programming and how it's subtly laced
over the course of generations to get you to believe
in a certain thing. And I mean, really like, this
is how we understand propaganda these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, here, here, here's a little bit over. Here's
the table of contents he sent me over so total recall.
I think that that I can't wait to take a
look at that. But Mary Poppins, I should have asked
him about Mary Poppins.
Speaker 6: And now I want to go out Mary Poppins. Listen
to listen to what she says throughout the picture. She goes,
just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
This is this is preprediction for all medicine is good.
Just take some sugar with it. All medicine is good.
We're finding out these days that perhaps it isn't. Well,
that's early predictive programming.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't necessarily. Hey, I'm as skeptical with
you as you on all that stuff at this point
there too, But I wouldn't necessarily say this is about
all medicine is good. It's just that if you ever
tasted robitussin, if you ever had any that rank ass
ship in your mouth, you would love a spoonful of
sugar at that point to help it go down. But
I just I just know, I don't know. Maybe I'm
just looking at that.
Speaker 9: I gotta go with, did you have a robo flip?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, no, But you know what I was. I was working.
I was working at CVS at that it was one
of my first jobs on the books. And I was
working at CVS and I was about fifteen years old,
and this is when I was told, okay, listen, Frank,
you got to look out for the robotussin. And you
got and especially when certain people walked in. There was
this one, you know, strung out girl that kept coming in.
It's real sad. I remember it to this day. And
this was the first time I ever saw a product
put behind some kind of plastic. And this was back
in you know, just around two thousand or so, nineteen
ninety nine. You know, everything's behind sheet glass now and
locked up for one reason or another. But when I
heard about robo tripping back then, I mean, some of
the people who were coming in looking for that robotustin,
they were fucked up. And the other thing that that
we were told to look out for was people stealing
baby powder, the talcum, because that's what a lot of
dealers were cutting their cocaine with. And I you know,
then then you see all of the all the damn
cancer cluster, all the can all the cancer clustered lawsuits
that have popped up because of certain talcum powders and
ship I was like, oh, I wonder how many people
were sniffing it? You know, they didn't even know it.
So yeah, yeah, I learned a lot at fifteen.
Speaker 6: I didn't mean to take it all the way off
into that, but like you had more of the movies,
what were the other movies that were on the table content.
Speaker 3: Hary Pompa, Disney Disney's Cruella. I never watched it. I
never watched it, But I understood what the hell was
going to go on there. There is this trend. There's
this trend with Disney and other other play other movie
houses that bring back and want to reimagine certain types
of characters, especially villains, and sympathize with them. So I knew,
you know, right off the bat, I said, Oh, okay,
so this is a this is a an apologetic for
Kruella de Ville instead of just painting her as the
crazed witch that is trying to kill puppies to turn
them into into quotes. Let's see hear Wonder Woman, GMO
Invitation to Hell Society, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, I
know that one. You want to talk about mass psychosis,
that is, that's a good one. I mean I often
think of an invasion of the Body Snatchers. I thought
about it a lot during twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: I mean talk about well what about they live? I mean,
that's the ultimate that that's the ultimate truth and plain sight,
you know, conspiratorial like you know Reptilians among Us movie
that was sort of like kind of round upon by
the mainstream, and it's like kind of applicable today.
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, I gotta imagine I have I have
esoteric Hollywood one and two. I have to imagine that
they live as in one of those, because that's, like
you said, that is almost like a one oh one
level class at this point. If you're going to talk
about movies, movies with a message, that has to be
like the top five you start with these days. But
a lot of this stuff with Christopher Nolan was great.
The Prestige Interstellar, uh inception, I like that, I like,
I liked all the The Batman trilogy was a lot
of fun. But Watchman is in here.
Speaker 6: So Watchman's got a lot of stuff. It's it's it's
occulted a lot, and there's a lot of stuff to
decode out of that one. And they're, hey, what's the
one nicol about? You know, what's the what's the cartoon
one that talks about adrenochrome a lot in it? It's
there's the Monsters inc. Monsters Inc. You want to see
some some seriously creepy ship, watch that one.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, there's adrenochrome in Monsters Inc.
Speaker 6: Monsters inc. Is is laced with adrenochrome, uh, Like, all
over the place. It's it's it's in the background. It's
everything and it's actually about the process. Sorry, I don't
want to take your podcast way off, you know, but
this like those are its that know about that stuff.
Speaker 3: Watch that one and all right, I'm gonna have to
go check look.
Speaker 6: Into that rabbit hole. I'll just stay there, but I'm
gonna get off here. But I just wanted to say hello.
I haven't said hih in a while, and I'll be
catching up. I love these topics. I would like to
talk about him, and I hope you're well.
Speaker 3: Brother, Oh well, I hope you're well. To Lawrence, have
a good one. Be well. There you go, Larry from Brooklyn.
It's good to have him on Planet of the Apes
and the Reboots. There's a lot to say there. There's
a lot to say with total recall. We already did
a little bit of that. But Black Mirror, Black Mirror,
I gotta say, Black Mirror is one of Black Mirror
is one of those series that I want to watch more,
but it's just so exhausting. It's so exhausting because it's
you could just read the news. Just read the news, caller,
you're on the air.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, hey, Frankie, what's up?
Speaker 3: Hello? There a four or five, how you been, I'm doing.
Speaker 8: Great, great to see Jay Dyer on he's a he's
fucking phenomenal, and it's it's it's awesome that you have them.
What I wanted to bring up is when when things
become mundane, like if you're like really in Like I'm
not gonna say like I'm in on this, I'm not,
but I've I've, I've I've had my experiences. When when
when when this mysterious stuff becomes really mundane and we're
gonna get to that inflection point. I feel and and
and and and you're you're you're, you're you're working through it.
But when you when it, when it goes from questioning two,
we all fully get it. So one quick one the
challenger thing. I can remember being in grade school, New
York City and getting called into the auditorium and having
this this this big moment, this massive moment. They had
a fucking screen set up for us to watch it,
and and we all, we all were supposed to feel
something from it. Flash forward two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait they did they bring this? They made
you watch the rerun knowing how it's going to end,
or you got together and watch the live feed. I
was in.
Speaker 8: I was in. I was in a first grade through
sixth grade public school. All the grades were brought down.
Speaker 3: All of them to watch it live. What to watch
it live? Or after the fact?
Speaker 8: Oh oh no, no no, after the fact. That wait, shit, Frank,
after the fact, after the fact.
Speaker 3: Damn they know they So they chose to sit you
all down to watch these people die, yeah, and to and.
Speaker 8: To have like this moment where we all where we
where we all could sort of grieve together. So so
I mean, this is this is this is a fake
NASA program. And I emailed you about the the fake
fucking porpoises dancing around the SpaceX fucking capsule which is
so incredibly fucking ridiculously fake with the woman of their
hair in the air and then coming out of this tube.
And it's like, it's like, why are they still doing it?
You can't figure it out because nobody's paying The kids
aren't paying attention. But back to what I was talking about.
I was probably fourth grade, third fourth grade. All the
grades were brought down into our communal lunch room where
we always ate lunch together, and we were shown, if
I remember correctly, we were shown the fucking the video
of of of the thing happening and then told about
it and like and like we were meant to grieve
together over this national tragedy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it could have just been it could
have just been the the way that your school administrators
thought would be best to They probably all just thought
I don't think I don't think that they were given
instructions from the government to go do that. It's probably
just what they thought was appropriate back then. I don't know,
it could have just been.
Speaker 8: That's that's an excellent no, and that's excellent point. And
I wasn't I wasn't going I wasn't saying it was
the government that was that was doing it. But it's
it's like everything is fucking subtle, like like you don't
need to like tell somebody to do something if you've
already set this thing in motion and it's just going
to play itself out. Like they said, TV was gonna
rot your brain. And we're a generation of TV watchers.
We talked about the kids watching TikTok and their attention
span and not watching movies. But but when the when
the when the extraordinary becomes the mundane, and and there
there really is when you like, this is not or
nothing like. Their big trick is to make everything look organic.
But it's it's it's not. It's actually really fucking simple. Okay,
it's just it's just it's just it's just media and
and and and it's and and and it's like a yeah, yeah,
that's what I got. That's what I got. Three Frankie,
God love you brother.
Speaker 3: Well, well, thank you, Well hit us. I can working
back from television, whether it be baby boomers going into
even you know gen X, and you know, TV had
been around for a couple of generations before we started
getting handheld, before we started getting more mobile, and first
it was already that way when I was growing up,
TV will rot your brain. Everybody had, you know, to
get away from that television. Then all of a sudden,
the gaming consoles started to to really evolve quick and
it was still easy to manage our time when the
gaming consoles were not connected to the internet. It became
a lot more addictive once you were you're playing on
networks against people and all the other shit, and then
there's less and less reason to leave the house all together.
And then of course you're carrying it in your back pocket.
So the evolution of the technology to say that television
wasn't rotting people's brains is probably it was. Probably was,
It's just it was just a little bit more of
a primitive a primitive version of what we have going
on right now. And everybody is having all of their
small peaceful moments sucked away to the badges and the
ring tones and everything else that's calling you back to
the portal in your palm. So it probably where things
all started, and it was a lot easier to manage,
no doubt about it. But yeah, I can see so
I can see that. And then and then there's the
other thing there too, Like we look at CNN's Gulf
War coverage. Look, we look at CNN's Gulf War coverage
and laugh at it now and say, how the hell
did anybody think that this was real? How the hell
did anybody think that that CGI in this movie look good?
Why the hell weren't we all laughing our asses off
when Mortal Kombat two came out and we didn't realize
how bad really? I mean, I think some of us
thought it was, oh, actually, that's really pretty fucking bad,
and then a couple of then just a couple of
years later it just aged so poorly. I mean, so
the real thing there is that, yeah, these productions hindsight
is twenty twenty you look back and said, wow, really
screwing with us. But at the time it was politically
expedient and you had everybody watching one source of it.
So there's still a lot of trust, a lot of
trust left over from past generations. There's a lot of
trust there. It was trust alone is what got people
to the most people, for a critical mass of people
in the United States to accept that Oswald killed JFK.
It was just trust. I listened to a lot of
Coast to Coast classics now with Art Bell, I have
since about twenty twenty one, and you know whatever, it's
late at night. I want something to listen to. Like,
there's so many places out there that host old episodes,
and I don't care what the hell the topic is.
I just want to listen to some kind of conversation
A guy taking calls from people in nineteen ninety six,
in nineteen ninety seven just to listen to, just to
listen to how people were thinking about things. I was
listening to an episode that was just an open lines
kind of a night in nineteen ninety six, just last night,
and and Art refused to believe, refused to believe that
the government had anything to do with and were willingly
suppressing what happened with TWA eight hundred. Refused to believe.
And he just couldn't take himself there. He also never
I mean, I mean, there's just so you want to
talk about trust and what the authorities are saying. It's
really it's like a time capsule there. And that's all people,
that's all the Kennedy. Those are people who were alive
and very much conscious when Kennedy was shot. And Dan
rather calmed them all down, Walter Cronkit calmed them all down,
gave them the gave them the four to one one,
and it was all bullshit. It's all bullshit. But we
only had one channel, a couple of channels to tune
into and one device. You walk away from that device,
suddenly you're in real life again. You can't walk away
from them so easily anymore. And and that's not to
say that everything that was on the television was bullshit.
There's just I love watching old old TV shows and
we often do that on Sunday nights. When Aurora is
still awake. Ed Sullivan reruns are on constantly. I love
stuff like that, man, I really do. All right, real quick,
we gotta take one last break. When we come back,
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Speaker 5: All right, Oh no, we're going to have to take
this call right here.
Speaker 3: Hold on one second, and welcome to the show. Jeremy Reese.
I wonder what triggered you to call in tonight? Is
it the uh? Is it the media? The media centralization
of all messages that of course led to JFK talk
and everything else.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I mean I saw that you guys were alive.
I kind of just tuned in, So I haven't what
have you guys covered so far? Top ten Cia offs.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we did top ten ci A. Jay Dyer
brought that to the table. We did a little bit
out of that, and then we we we blended that
into esoteric and uh, you know, messaging, cultural messaging that
through that is delivered through Hollywood. Because he's just he's
just completed writing his Esoteric Hollywood Part three, a series
of now a trilogy of books on that. So we
kind of just brought intelligence into the culture and how
all that influence meshed together. And of course, with ten
minutes left, here you are, so i'd love to give
you a few of them.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 3: Well, well, welcome, welcome aboard. What would you say? Is
there any movies out there? I guess we'll just stick
to the topic at hand. Are there any movies out
there that you could really point to that, especially from
a high technology or even a UFO alien standpoint, that
you always talk about that that's serve was one purpose
or another that you know was a complete op From
a movie standpoint, Is there any of them?
Speaker 17: I mean a lot of the ones that have been
released in the in the last two years. I mean,
I mean a lot of the like small like documentaries
out there, but the Hollywood movies let me see that. Uh,
I don't know, but I added on the jam. Let
me get back to that. I want to say. I
want to just want to throw in something about the
jfk assassination. Yeah, one of the women is that befriended
Marina Oswald, Lee's wife, There was a woman named Priscilla McMillan,
and she she helped translate and write her autobiography supposedly,
and then it turns out that she was the CIA
uh consenting operative, you know, like she she was like
an knowledgeable like operative.
Speaker 19: For the CIA.
Speaker 17: And there's documentation that she was paid for like almost
all her work, and that came out in the files.
So this is the way that they've infiltrated all kinds
of media and culture so that when people go to
the literature and they say, oh, well, this is what
you know that this is the profile that they have
of Lee, and this is what we were told who
Lee Harvey Oswald was. And and so they they've really
i mean they've hit the files on Lee Harvey Oswald
for until twenty thirty nine, is when they originally wanted
to keep them all classified untill and you know now
that it's a lot of this is coming out, there's
a lot of that. But I mean I remember a
lot of films that were pro conspiracy, like throwing stuff
this stuff in growing up. I don't remember The Rock
where the Sean Connery where in the end, I think
Kevin Costner's character is like looking through the stuff that
he gets from this the spy guy.
Speaker 3: La, do you want to know who Nicholas was?
Speaker 9: Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 17: Yeah, He's like, do you want to know who killed Kennedy?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 3: There was old and there's negatives of like eight millimeter
film that was hidden inside of a pew at a
random church somewhere in the country. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Wow, Yeah,
I remember that right at the end.
Speaker 17: Clever dead drop. But yeah, it would be something like
that where there's a dead drop location that that there's
something in. But you know, a lot of the key
films from Daley Plaza were like destroyed or just confiscated.
It never surfaced, like I think Beverly Oliver was recording,
and also Gordon Arnold said, like the Secrets, a guy
identifying themselves as Secret Service took their film and never never, never,
they never saw it again, never heard of it again.
Speaker 3: I think it was like two or three weeks ago,
probably about three weeks ago whenever, whenever the hell it
was is after the first full week of of those
those JFK files came out, we were talking about that
at the end towards the end of the week, my
buddy Jay was in here and we were he brought
up Beverly Oliver and he brought up the confiscated How
this is something that he would really love to see,
is a release of all the confiscated film that was
Obviously there's no trace, there's not there, no mention of it.
So you know that all went into an incinerator somewhere because.
Speaker 17: Yeah, they had the clearest photography of the knoll and
the assassination from the perspective of the knoll at that
close of an angle. So yeah, it was course that
they went and rounded up that the evidence right away
and had it destroyed. But what's crazy is is that
Beverly Oliver's shoes. Have you ever heard of her shoes?
She was standing right on the curb and if you
look in the Zuppruter film where you can see her standing,
she's like closest to the curb on the other side
of the assassination, like closest to the president when when
the headshot actually takes place, So she would have got
all that on film. And she has her shoes have
this yellow paint on the bottom of them. You can
notice that the curb is just that curb is painted yellow,
and you go through like it's very hard to find
like color photographs of that ankle, the assassination and Indi
Lee Plaza. But somebody came the night before and painted
three of the curbs, just three of the curb markers
yellow with yellow marker paint. It was fresh, so and
those were right coordinated with where the shots, you know, happened.
So it's like it's like a timing mechanism. They didn't
have to announce the timing over shooting, you know, it's
like you know, announce it over a radio or anything.
So it's just right there in the plaza, which has
always been strange to me. If it was an assassination
by a lone nut and Oswald was in that window,
he would have shot the president when they were coming
right down Houston Street. That's that's the shot. I mean,
he's coming straight towards you. There's no escape but to
wait until he takes the turn onto Elm Street and
gets into at ambush zone, which is is just a
clear sniper shop. From the grassy knoll behind that white
picket fence, that's clearly where they took them out from
and then they could they had to see your cars.
Nick could have had a compartment in any one of
those vehicles just to stash a rifle real quick and
then just identify themselves as Secret Service agents. And nothing
happened in this area.
Speaker 19: And you know, like, yeah, it would it would have
been it would have been a cinch to to just
to just have a second gunman or at least even
a third gunman there on the knoll.
Speaker 17: And I don't know about all the other gunmen in
the assassination. The other people say there might have been
one on the other corner of the of the text. Well, yeah,
depository building. But again, the mechanics don't matter. What matters
is that the CIA has them power in the media
and Hollywood and everything else to be able to cover
this up for decades and decades and decades.
Speaker 9: It's just to show you that again.
Speaker 3: Again again though, Jeremy, what I was saying before you
came on is that I think it really goes to
show that what you needed back then more than anything
was trust. Uh, And there's a lot of trust that
the public had in in the media still at that time.
And of course, like you said, and who was running
the media and who was running this operation. It's a
it's a it's good. It's a it's a really good analysis.
Speaker 8: There.
Speaker 3: I have to get off right now though, because I'm
up against the clock. I'd love to. We got to
get you on again, just to do I love your
random stoppings, they're always illuminating, but we got to do
something efficiently after the show.
Speaker 17: I'm gonna text you and let's let's let's think up.
We'll do uh, we'll do a show soon, man, Thank you. Awesome, awesome.
I'm gonna go back and listen to this. Uh this
Jay Dyer guy.
Speaker 3: You got it. I think I think you like him
a lot. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 9: All right, there you go.
Speaker 3: That's the alien scientist Jeremy Reese. So that'll be fun.
We'd love to get Jeremy back on sometime soon. Well, listen,
it's eight fifty seven. I really appreciate you guys. Today
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If you read into her, she's one of the kindest
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And Sean Joe, thank you so much. Well, that's it
for me. It's nine o'clock, seven o'clock tomorrow and that
is the end of the official work week. Then, of course,
the unofficial work week continues on Saturday night, as we're
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Thank you Jay Dyer, thank you to all the callers,
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