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Speaker 1: Oh Willow who also, and.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good to be back man, don okay, so welcome, welcome,

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Speaker 3: It is a Thursday night. It's a rainy Thursday at that.

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It's gonna be raining for the next but it looks

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to be next couple of days. I don't know. Te

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looks like the whole day is going to be a wash.

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So hey, you know what, April showers bring May flowers.

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Huh does that happen still? Or have the flowers been

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pushed back to June? I forget, but thank you for

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being here. Tonight it's gonna be a good one. It

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is the tenth day of April, April tenth, twenty twenty five,

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at seven o'clock on the nose, seven oh one, depending

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on what you're using. And tonight we've got a couple

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of great things going on. Number one, it's just Thursday,

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and I love Thursday nights. It's a tradition of me

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loving Thursday nights. Jay Dyer is coming on. He's the

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guest of honor. He'll be with us in a few minutes.

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He's our guest this evening. Jay'sanalysis dot com. All of

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his links are in the description of this episode, and

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I wanted to do an intelligence Intelligence Service deep dive

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with him top ten operations known to the public and

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other things, especially time to expand into Hollywood, because not

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only is it closely related to intelligence service activity, but

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Jay is about to release another book on the subject soon.

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Esoteric Hollywood three is coming out soon. You can get

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it on pre order right now. And that's what we

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so much else happening. This right here, I'm playing off

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it off of the quite Frankly Spring Fever playlist that

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is included in this month's episode on not episode bulletin

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the April edition of the Quite Frankly Bulletin. You can

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on quite frankly dot tv. It's all over the place,

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to hinder or to hold someone back. I think your

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life is about to become retarded.

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real show. Welcome one, Welcome all. So you know we're

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gonna be talking a lot about we'll be getting into

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movies tonight in a little bit. But there's a lot

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more that predates that. The influence, the powers that influenced

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those satellite scans that opened up. You know, the conversation

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about what is going on two kilometers below the surface

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over there in Egypt is not CIA related. But we

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talks about remote viewing, not only the Arc of the Covenant,

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brings in all of the past, the past stuff that

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abductions were simulated CIA psychological warfare experiments. What else did

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they do? Now, this one I'm definitely going to bring

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Maybe that'll be in another Thursday Night. The picture above

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is of Joseph Allen Heinik, an American astronomer, professor and ufologist.

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Heinick acted as a scientific advisor to UFO studies undertaken

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sixty nine. The man next to him is doctor Jacques Valais.

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So the roots run deep, my friends, they really do

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tonight too, because it's been getting around at Mars. It's

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that it has enough water for a one mile planetary

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wide ocean. You hear that water, Never seen it, never

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seen a drop in my life, but they found a

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world would be at a standstill. But did this stuff

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just just not move the needle for anybody anymore? I

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books book clubs with me. We did Brave New World.

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getting really well acquainted along with the audience that took

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part in it, with the genetic structure of that world,

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which of course was written by Aldous Huxley, and this

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that New World Order type. That wasn't It wasn't a

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this is the path we're on if we don't watch ourselves.

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This was a hey, this is what's going to get

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served up to you. And oh, well, well, we're coming

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up on one hundred years later, and boy, oh boy, oh.

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the last couple of weeks. Aside from the fact that

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a dire Wolf, we have a follow up to all

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in twenty twenty four, probably one of the last times

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that Jay came on, to be honest, early twenty twenty

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four or late twenty twenty three, they were talking about

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these bags almost like latex bags that can act as

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artificial wombs or artificial placentas that they were trying to develop,

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lambs in these little latex sacks or something like that

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in these laboratories, which, of course, all of the stated

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outside of the womb. And you know, there's some people

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don't want to run into Jay here, He's going to

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be coming on any second here. But you remember, in

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MIT technology reviews. Also, what's been talking about the brainless

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bodies that are coming our way, or at least that

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they want to be able to start growing brainless, soulless

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bodies that just essentially provide not only organs but meet Okay,

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whose DNA has been tailored using gene editing. So to say, ohthough,

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and they were just doing this with dire wolves and

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dodo birds. It's bullshit. No, it's not happening. It's already happened.

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It's already happened, my friends. So I want to be

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able to just get a lot of this out on

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the table for you tonight, and Jay will be joining

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us in a little bit. The other thing I want

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is something that one of you guys had thrown my

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we had our Monday morning coffee meeting, which is open

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for all usually around eleven am. Haven't missed a Monday

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looking into them, and I think Jay had gone into

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them as well, which I think would be really interesting

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way to start all this off, because you want to

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how to then demolish and rebuild a society. That's something

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that I think is worthy of digging into. For those

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a background. The Richard Day Tapes, more formally known as

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eighty eight and nineteen ninety one. These recordings recount a

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lecturer that Dunnegan claims he attended on March twentieth, nineteen

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sixty nine, delivered by doctor Richard Day, a prominent physician

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a society, orchestrated by a powerful group that he referred

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attendees not to take notes or record the lectures, citing

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of the tapes outlined are wide ranging agenda purportedly designed

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to reshape society over decades. Dunnaghan recalled the day discussing

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topics such as population control, changes in medical care, societal restructuring,

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and the erosion of traditional values, all framed as part

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of a deliberate plan by an elite group. Here's a breakdown.

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Number one. Population Control Day allegedly predicted because these are

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all like most things of this nature, whether it be

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the Albert Pike letters or something else like that. Some

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people say it's true, it's others say there's no evidence

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and it's all myth. But just like the Albert Pike letters,

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the illuminati that outline the three world wars, it does

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say something that so far we are on track, and

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it's almost to the t the punctuation mark that things

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have been progressing. So they allegedly predicted measures to limit

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population growth. In growth including promoting smaller families to child maximums,

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making divorce easier and more common, encouraging euthanasia for the

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elderly deem no longer useful to society. I think a

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lot of that's been going on. Medical changes. They reportedly

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claim that healthcare would become prohibitively expensive, especially for the

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elderly and tied to employment status. He also mentioned that

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the intention the intentional introduction of new difficult to diagnose

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in untreatable diseases. Additionally, he suggested that cancer cures already

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existed in nineteen sixty nine, but war being withheld. With

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the information stored at the Rockefeller Institute, a lot of

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big name drops sometimes that makes people suspicious as well.

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Societal shifts. The Electure support supposedly included plans to destabilize

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traditional structures like marriage and religion. Homosexuality would be normalized

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and promoted, sex education would be used to influence youth.

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The Early Day allegedly said people would be conditioned to

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accept constant change as normal, making societal norms fluid and impermanent.

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Surveillance and technology Day is said to have foreseen a

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world where television would monitor viewers even when turned off,

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and a single banking system would eliminate physical money with

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all transactions tracked electronically, and cultural and behavioral manipulation. Fashion

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would become more provocative. Media would push sex and violence

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to desensitize people. Terrorism would increase globe creating fear and

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justifying control measures. Well, well, I'll be now again. I

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want to bring I want to bring this up to

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Jay Dyer. I was expecting him here seven minutes ago.

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Thankfully I had a lot of a lot of cushion

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up front to work with. But again, when we look

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at the published writings, the published works of someone like

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Alvis Huxley, he got it pretty good too. Makes you

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wonder if there is a game plan, if there always

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has been. And as it turns out, a lot of

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these people are publishing these things along the way, and

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it's almost like their own little cheerleading. They cheerlead each other.

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So we're going to be able to do a little

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bit more of this. When Jay comes back, I'm just

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gonna go check on him, to be honest, And in

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the meantime, I'm going to leave you with a very

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short break that I was going to save for the intermission.

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Speaker 3: They call him Samurai. He speaks fluent Japanese.

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Speaker 3: What does katana mean?

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Speaker 11: It means Japanese sword.

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Back to the show.

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Speaker 3: Poof. Okay, everybody, so listen, we're gonna be taking a

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little bit of calls. We're gonna take some calls from

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you guys about whatever the hell you want until Jay

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shows up. So I like having everybody up front. That's

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what we're planning on doing. But until he shows up,

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we're just going to go right to the calls. Nine

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one four two hundred two sixty nine, give me a

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buzz nine one four, two hundred two sixty nine, And

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you're coming on the air with us, and I just

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want to hear what's going on with you, how you're

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seeing things out there. And the other thing there too

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that we can talk about is, of course the content

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the table of contents for j and his in his book,

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which I think is great because there's a couple of

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things in here that I'd really love to talk to

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him about, a couple of titles in here I really

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love to talk to him about. He's got an entire

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section on Christopher Nolan. One in particular I wanted to

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bring up was The Prestige, one of my favorite films

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really is, and again and again, what is pulled from

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all this? What is pulled from all this? There's also

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somebody out there. His name is Tim, and he sent

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in a couple of these PSAs, these old school PSAs,

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and wanted to know if Jay. But I was also

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thinking that this would be a great, a great bit

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for Mike Baldwin tomorrow night, if these old television PSAs

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were worthwhile for America's health, if they actually did anything

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at all. Did you guys, ever, do you guys remember this,

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this myth, this p s A for methanmphetamine. I don't

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remember it. I remember the the eggs frying on the

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the frying on the frying pan. I remember a few

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other let's see here. I remember all the out the

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marijuana ones. Those are great. Take a look at the

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meth commercial. Look at me, busy as a bee. Where'd

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I get all this senergy?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Man, I don't sleep.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember this. The cleanest house.

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Speaker 1: On the street.

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Speaker 3: This has got this. This has got to be like

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kids in the hall or something. Is this for real?

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Because I thought I remembered all of these things.

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Speaker 13: Get these hairs all out of my face, Get these

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bugs all out of my place.

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Speaker 1: One more hit, no time.

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Speaker 14: Two Waist.

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Speaker 3: Office of the National Drug Policy partner with the Drug

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free America. I'd see. I can see that being true.

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Like sometimes we're just abrasive with the messaging in the nineties,

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and that looks like a nineteen ninety four kind of

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a feel right there. Here's the other one, and I

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can't wait to show these to Mike Baldwin tomorrow. We'll

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see the other ones that are out there. This is

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uh I remember this one. I learned it by watching you. Dad.

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You want to talk about cultural norms and messaging.

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Speaker 15: Yours?

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Speaker 3: No, I must have had you found it in your closet.

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Speaker 7: I don't know when a guide was lost of what

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look that it's now?

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Speaker 13: Did you get it?

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Speaker 3: Got to answer me? Who taught you how to do

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this stuff?

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Speaker 12: You are right?

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Speaker 8: I learned it by watching you.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 9: Use drugs? Have children who use drugs? Well?

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Speaker 3: Wait a second, I want to look inside of this

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box here? Okay, what's in there?

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Speaker 6: See?

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Speaker 3: How could how would you see? The thing that's funny

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to me is how would the father be surprised? He's

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obviously he didn't know that his son is watching him

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roll joints? Or is there something else in there? And

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if it's more than that, then was he really doing

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it in front of the kid the whole time. It's you,

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all right. I can imagine that being for like your

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curse words. I heard you, I heard I heard Dad

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use that language. I heard I saw Dad use the marijuana. Anyway,

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these are something that I actually liked back then. I

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think it's better than the drug wars that we used

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that we still run and we still wage. I like

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the messaging that it's fun. It creates conversation, it creates

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memes for years and years to come, and of course

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it doesn't empower the cartels, which is what it usually

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usually what happens at the end of some of these

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uh these drug wars. Here but here we go. Now

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we're back on track, ladies and gentlemen, so we can

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joining us right now for the first time since I

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think December. Author comedian host of The Alex Jones Show's

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Fourth Hour, Jay Dyer Jason Aalysis, how are you, sir.

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Speaker 11: Good man? Glad to be back with you.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 11: I lost the link.

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Speaker 7: I had a flood of muscage messages on Twitter and

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I had to go and find where it was.

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Speaker 3: Damn. So I'm sorry. Well, I should have kicked it

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up to the top or something. Anyway, Well, it's good

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to have you on. You've been very busy lately. It's

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always great to see you do well. And not only that,

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but you have Esoteric Hollywood Part one and two books

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that I own. But it is soon going to be

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become a trilogy. When has part three officially come out?

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Speaker 7: Well, we don't have a sad date. Yeah, but I

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mean it's going to be in the next couple of months,

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so it's gonna be soon.

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Speaker 3: It's on pre order on Amazon, though, right because I

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saw that.

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Speaker 11: Oh I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 3: Well, then maybe I saw the wrong thing.

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Speaker 7: But well, it may be on there pre order, but

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don't pre order from Amazon. Pre order from the website when.

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Speaker 3: I get that up there, Okay, sounds good.

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Speaker 7: Well any way, otherwise you're just giving money to Jeff Bezos.

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Speaker 3: Right right. Ultimately you know more about my book.

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Speaker 16: Than I do, so.

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Speaker 3: At this point I do. But we'll see because I

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have a table of contents that you sent me and

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I want to talk to you about that in a bit.

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But first I before you were you came in, I

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was reading a little bit about the Richard Day tapes

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again and somebody had brought it up in a chat

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room for a stream I was doing earlier on in

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the week, and they suggested I talked to you about it,

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and they jogged my memory because I remember you bringing

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these up. And unless I'm remembering wrong, what do you

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know about the Richard Day tapes again? And are are

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they real? Because I know, like for for things like this,

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there's a lot of people who say yay, they say nay,

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what it's your take on the whole thing.

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Speaker 7: I think they're real because I did go and verify

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that that guy really was the head of Planned Parenthood

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back at the time. Everything in those lectures that was

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recorded by one of the participants in the event does

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affirm pretty much what's happened in the world. So you know,

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the last twenty thirty forty years lines up with maybe

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not every single thing, but a lot of what was

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in the Day tape. So I think that we could

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surmise that it was a very accurate retelling and recounting

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of what they had planned in terms of rocket Color

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foundation and sort of reorganizing society in terms of depopulation, Malthusianism,

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various you know, medical procedures.

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Speaker 3: Shall we say, yeah, all.

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Speaker 7: Those things are mentioned as things that should be promoted planned,

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and even things like social disintegration and pressure from above,

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pressure from below, which are different strategies for causing kind

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of social chaos to you know, problem reaction solution bring

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in the answer.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,599
Speaker 3: I remember we were talking about this a lot around

476
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,799
the time that we were doing Brave New World together,

477
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,400
and that's probably going to pomp up a couple of

478
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,799
times along the way with our talk tonight, because it's

479
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:04,119
one of those things where what I learned from you

480
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,559
when we came together to read the book and analyze

481
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:11,160
the book is that most people growing up when we

482
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,880
read either you know, nineteen eighty four or any of

483
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,480
George Orwell's stuff or Huxley, most people think it's a

484
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,200
warning about a future that could be from somebody who

485
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,759
actually wants to prevent it. And I learned it it

486
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:28,319
was actually an apologetic and these are things that have

487
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,759
been in many ways laid out in kind of creepy ways.

488
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,920
And even though, like I even mentioned the the Albert

489
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Pike letters, there's a lot of discussion whether or not

490
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,319
those are real, whether or not they're real or it's

491
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,720
when you look at the chronology of four told events

492
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,440
of three World Wars. There's a lot that make you think, Yeah,

493
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:49,759
I mean, I.

494
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:52,039
Speaker 7: Don't really put a whole lot of stock in those letters.

495
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,880
They seem to be a little much, you know. I

496
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,759
think the dating is weird with the terminology, but even still,

497
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,160
I mean kind of what's in there, loosely speaking, kind

498
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,680
of matches up to I think what the technocrats have

499
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,440
planned for a global governance, for an integrated world federation,

500
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,200
you know, a socialist EU style structure that the rest

501
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,279
of the world would then have, and we're seeing right now,

502
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:18,880
for example, in England. You know, Kure Starmer is an

503
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,000
open Fabian socialist. I've been talking about Fabian socialism for many,

504
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:25,440
many years, over a decade, and that's sort of what

505
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240
they wanted to roll out in the EU and in

506
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:32,920
the UK especially and then reintegrate and reorganize society on

507
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,559
that basis. I think that you know, what we're seeing

508
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,000
over there is kind of what they would like to

509
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,119
do in North America probably all the continents as well,

510
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,880
if they can get you know, all their agenda through.

511
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,799
Speaker 3: Would anything in the Richard Day tapes fall under specific

512
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,000
operations that you listed in your your top ten, because

513
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,359
I would love to go through those soon. But since

514
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,599
this came up, I figure I just throw it into

515
00:30:57,599 --> 00:30:58,559
the mix to start us off.

516
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,359
Speaker 11: Said that again, do anything that was.

517
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,119
Speaker 3: In the richer Day tapes does any of that operation?

518
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:10,160
Does that fall under any Does any of the stuff

519
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,640
in those tapes fall under any specific operation out of

520
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,079
the ten for say, per se that you that you listed,

521
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,400
I listed, yeah, or it's just like sprays its just

522
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:22,519
let me my list out here, I got here.

523
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 7: I don't know that anything would be a direct necessary parallel,

524
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:33,480
except that the Rockefeller Foundation plays a key role in

525
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,839
the strand, the planning and strategies of the day you

526
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,160
know discussions and the origins of the CIA and the

527
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,400
USS do directly relate to the Rockefeller family and what

528
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,720
they pretty much funded and helped to establish. Dad Rockfeller

529
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,039
brags about that in his memoirs. For example, he himself,

530
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,319
by the way, he used to be an intelligence operative

531
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:57,680
in the Army when he was younger. So I would say,

532
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,119
if anything, elements of MK Ultra I think played into

533
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,480
the Day tapes, because even though the day discussions were

534
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:08,079
not about mind control operators and that kind of stuff,

535
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920
the research that was derived from a lot of the

536
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,359
mk Ultra studies dealt with social engineering and social control,

537
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:19,640
so that could be one element of it. Paper Clip

538
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,359
is possible too, because of course paper Clip is nineteen

539
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,680
forty five to nineteen fifty nine, and that involved importing

540
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,279
a lot of the Tiny Mustache Men higher ups and

541
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:31,720
trying to, you know, derive a lot of their engineering

542
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,920
scientific knowledge for the US and for the West. And

543
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,079
so I would imagine a lot of the ideas about genetics,

544
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,759
genetic modification, breeding, breeding science, Malfusianism, dysgenics. Probably a lot

545
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,640
of that came from some of the paper Clip people,

546
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:53,960
and that would have overlapped with the day tapes and

547
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,279
maybe just loosely some of the others, but I think

548
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,000
for the most part those would be the most relevant

549
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:00,559
to the day tapes.

550
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,519
Speaker 3: Well, you brought up two out of the ten. Paper

551
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,880
Clip was that's been in the news recently with all

552
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,799
the Argentina stuff, that there might be a declassification of

553
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:14,359
some of Tiny Mustache Man's vacation plans. And then also

554
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:19,240
mk Ultra as well, we heard about remote also remote

555
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,400
viewing of the Arc of the Covenant, the CIA faking

556
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,839
alien abductions that's been published about again recently, and then

557
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,160
I saw you put out this top ten. I said, bingo,

558
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,640
so let's tie it all together, paper Clip, mk Ultra.

559
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:34,640
What are the other eight I'd love to get through

560
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,160
some of those.

561
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't put these in any definite order. They're

562
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,519
just kind of the top ten that I picked out

563
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,640
of twenty that are declassified, so all twenty are pretty wild.

564
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,200
And then I tried to kind of just randomly pick

565
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:51,440
the ones that I thought were the top ten, but

566
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,640
in no specific orders. So of course we have mk Ultra,

567
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,079
which is probably the most famous up there with perhaps

568
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,400
paper Clip. And this is the dozens of universe cities,

569
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:08,880
dozens of academic institutions that were intent upon basically studying

570
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,320
the human psyche and mastering it and then sort of

571
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:18,280
exporting that ideology into mass formation psychosis, you know, psychological engineering.

572
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,480
And we can find parallels, for example, with World War

573
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:27,000
two era psychological warfare theorists like Juice Merlo. We did

574
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,639
a lecture through his entire book. He was a World

575
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,320
War two psychological warfare excerpt for the Allies and he

576
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,880
wrote on that topic. There's also Operation Mockingbird from the

577
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,239
forties to the seventies, and this is of course the

578
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,280
CAA buying off journalists throughout the Cold War to make

579
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,440
sure that the journalists is about four or five hundred

580
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,239
throughout the world. Would repeat the CIA line. That doesn't

581
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,360
mean that I think that Soviets were the good guys,

582
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,559
are the unpro communists.

583
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 11: But throughout that period you do have.

584
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 7: The subversion of journalism from the forties all the way

585
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,480
to the seventies, and it was a pretty widespread program.

586
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,280
And I would say that even though this this program

587
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Mockingbird end of the nineteen seventies, we have the same

588
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:16,119
analog to that with like Mockingbird two point zero, with

589
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,800
all of the you know, big players and big entities,

590
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,280
you know, shutting down social media, you know, censoring and

591
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,119
banning social media that kind of stuff.

592
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:28,599
Speaker 3: What about what about Hollywood in itself, because of course

593
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,199
news media being in every newsroom in the country and

594
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:35,159
that that's that's one thing. But when was it was it? Uh,

595
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,360
you know, we hear about Independence Day or Close Encounters

596
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,320
the Third kind or anything else like that, where there

597
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,679
this is an era where when you start talking about

598
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,119
and putting movies out there about sensitive subjects, about whether

599
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,639
it be an extraterrestrial life or high technology or anything

600
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,360
like that. There's usually some sort of a government attasha

601
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,280
that's there to to give you all of the ins

602
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
and outs to make it more believable, but to also

603
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:05,679
not to give people too much. We heard about that.

604
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,280
When did that become from your research? A little bit more?

605
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,920
A little bit more, I don't know, I would say normal.

606
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,039
Speaker 7: Well, one of the projects that would relate to that

607
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:25,079
would be projects Stargate, because even though Stargate is not

608
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,599
explicitly about aliens, the idea was that from nineteen seventy

609
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:33,039
eight to nineteen ninety five they would be studying the occult,

610
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,599
so it wasn't just remote viewing. They were studying all

611
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,679
kinds of different techniques. If you watch the movie Minister

612
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,559
at Goats, that's kind of based on this type of

613
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:49,000
project where the Army, the Central Research Institute, First Earth Battalion,

614
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:52,719
they were looking into all these different mentalism and psychic

615
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,199
abilities and telekinesis and remote viewing and astral projection and

616
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,639
possibly also things relating to LSD hallucinogens and if you

617
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:07,440
combine that with Gateway Process, which was also declassified not

618
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,800
too long I think it's from the early eighties. This

619
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,760
talks about transittal meditation, it talks about biofeedback, biohacking, meditation

620
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,679
and so forth to achieve you know, these esoteric enlightened states,

621
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,199
and could this be weaponized and could we create size spies?

622
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,719
And the Soviets even had their own size spy programs,

623
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,880
So there was kind of a mirror project going on

624
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,800
in the Cold War with the Soviets doing their size

625
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,800
spies and the West, the CIA, doing their size spies.

626
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,920
And I think that a lot of that, maybe even inadvertently,

627
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,360
does tie into like the UFO phenomenon, because a lot

628
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,079
of the people who would be doing these meditation sessions

629
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:51,039
and these LSD type studies and research or DMT the

630
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,440
float tanks, you know with John Z Lilly, they would

631
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,679
think they were contacting beings and entities. So a lot

632
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,440
of times they did, oh, this is the aliens, right,

633
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,480
So they would just to make a one to one

634
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,599
assumption that the beings that they're contacting must be the

635
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,719
same as the beings that are happening throughout the FOO

636
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,440
fighter UFO phenomena. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's

637
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,880
I mean, I think there is overlap, and I think

638
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:18,280
that the whole, the whole UFO phenomenon pretty much comes

639
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,480
out of all this MK ultra research.

640
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:22,559
Speaker 11: You know, they want to give they want to.

641
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:26,159
Speaker 7: Give everybody a new ideology in the West and in

642
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,559
the world, a new religion.

643
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: I guess we could just jump right there real quick.

644
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,360
Then then perhaps we can go back to and it

645
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,280
doesn't have to be the ten that you picked. It

646
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,079
could be any of the crazy twenty, because I'd love

647
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:38,239
to hear a little bit more of this. Is that

648
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,599
it's a review, but there's also some stuff I had

649
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:42,880
forgotten about or never heard about at all. But when

650
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,920
it comes to intelligence services in the space programs, a

651
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,320
lot of esoteric background. There no doubt paper Clip had

652
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,920
been brought up again, like I said with the Argentina News,

653
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,639
and of course paper Clip was the lifeblood of the

654
00:38:56,199 --> 00:39:01,039
space race. But when it comes to the NASA base

655
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:05,400
syop theories, they are a plenty. And I just wonder,

656
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,880
because you know, I never talked about this, but just

657
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,039
the nature of this to begin with, like the nature

658
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:17,920
of space in general, I don't know what your take

659
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960
on the whole thing is. Have we even been to space,

660
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:20,559
do you believe?

661
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I would definitely think that there are satellites,

662
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,920
and probably there is the ability to go into low

663
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:31,239
Earth orbit. I'm pretty much a skeptic about a lot

664
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,880
of other stuff. I think NASA was in some way

665
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,440
a kind of affront to cover for Cold War stuff.

666
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:42,840
But and probably they were erecting a lot of the

667
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:46,440
global spying infrastructure. As my view as to what they

668
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,599
were doing in Cold War under the cover of NASA

669
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,039
and space, I think they were setting up like the

670
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,440
Star Wars Defense Initiative and that kind of stuff. But

671
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,800
but I mean beyond that, I don't really I mean,

672
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,400
I think a lot of the space stuff was just

673
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:04,199
Cold War propaganda. I don't have any set opinions on

674
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,239
the structure of the universe or how it works or

675
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,320
what's really going I have no idea what's really going

676
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,400
on out there, So I'm an agnostic skeptic on those

677
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,719
kinds of questions. But I do think that there's a

678
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,480
pretty deep rabbit hole that you can go down when

679
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,000
it comes to you know, NASA during the Cold War

680
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,920
and how well it functioned as a kind of a

681
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,840
propaganda tool. But as to how advanced these space tech

682
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,000
really is, I have no idea.

683
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: What do you think about other things like you may

684
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,960
have not even dipped in into this at all, but

685
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,440
it's very hard to miss these things if you're spending

686
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,119
any considerable amount of time on the Internet. But things

687
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,719
like the Challenger disaster in nineteen eighty six, there's a

688
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,360
really compelling theory that a lot of those astronauts, if

689
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,760
not all of them, are still alive and have been

690
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,760
under assumed identities as teachers and whatever since then. I

691
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,760
see the pictures, the side by sides. I don't know

692
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,679
if they're real, but they're of course, like on everything,

693
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,800
there's a split. And given all of the NASA based

694
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,199
psyop theories that are out there, that was one of

695
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,360
the one that was one of the really compelling ones

696
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,000
that I always want to know a little bit more about.

697
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,800
I didn't know if that was something that ever tickled

698
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,320
your fancy.

699
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 7: I'm familiar with this theory in this analysis, I don't

700
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,800
know a whole lot about what the truth is. I mean,

701
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:32,800
I could see large scale kind of deception at that level.

702
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,760
And one of the next programs I was going to

703
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:40,440
mention actually does include large scale deception, and that's Operation

704
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:44,000
north Woods, which was a nineteen sixty two program that

705
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,000
would stage a giant fake flag event. It included fake

706
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:53,079
news stories to go along with the event. It included drones,

707
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:56,199
it included an airplane full of dead bodies, and this

708
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,400
is going to be a fake trr our event blamed

709
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:06,079
on Cuba. And it was signed off by LL Linitzer,

710
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,480
who was formerly the Joint Chieve Staff I think under

711
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,800
Kennedy and then he was also the Supreme Allied Commander

712
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,239
of NATO.

713
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 3: But that's a big one.

714
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was the one proposing north Woods. They didn't

715
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,000
actually go with it, but what it shows us is

716
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:29,000
that they've had these large scale style ops and psyops

717
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,760
for a while a long time that you know, and

718
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,719
this is just kind of basic military deception techniques. So

719
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,239
it's possible. I don't know what the motive or the

720
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:47,079
advantage would be to staging the shuttle blowing up event.

721
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,119
I would be interested to know what the what they

722
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:57,639
gained from that if it was a outside the realm

723
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,760
of possibility, given the fact that north Woods exists.

724
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: For sure, And perhaps when we open up the lines

725
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,119
for calls later on, we'll see if something comes through

726
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,760
and I'll uh, I'll let you know what comes in

727
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,000
it that because that'd be interesting so north Woods, let's

728
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,960
do two more, because I'd love to if there's anything

729
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,480
in there that's obscure but really interesting that people should

730
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:18,880
know about, that'd be awesome because then I want to

731
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,199
move on to some of the stuff that's in esoteric

732
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,079
Hollywood three, because there's a lot of overlap between these

733
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:28,559
intelligence services and the messaging that's going out to common

734
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,559
viewing audiences, so that this is going to be a

735
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:38,199
good one. Oh do you want to do two more?

736
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,639
Speaker 11: You cut out? I'm sorry?

737
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 10: What was Oh?

738
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? No, I said after we to do two

739
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,800
more of these? Uh, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, and then

740
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,000
we'll go into Hollywood three.

741
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:48,679
Speaker 11: Yeah.

742
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 7: I was just pulling up my list of the I

743
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,480
don't even remember all the contents, and there's somehow I

744
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:55,599
got to pull up the table of contest to remember it.

745
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,159
But so let's say we did Northwood's. Next would be

746
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,119
paper Cliff.

747
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,159
Speaker 8: We did that.

748
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 11: Next one is we did Stargate.

749
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,159
Speaker 3: I mentioned that, so you know what Jay with Stargate

750
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,239
with Stargate because you and I did a lot on Gladio.

751
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,400
But I want to ask you about some psychological stuff.

752
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,960
I know that in the past when you were on

753
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,559
the show you had mentioned that in you know, earlier

754
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,280
on in life you had you have done some psychedelics.

755
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,360
Is that that's true, right? You said that, right?

756
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,199
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well I was a teenager, right exactly so.

757
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: And now obviously you your your life has taken you

758
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,079
into so many different places, and you are a leading

759
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:40,880
voice online for Orthodox Christianity, and and I really appreciate

760
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,199
all of you know, everything you tie together. I think

761
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,960
it's really interesting that you have that background of that

762
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:49,800
that type of experience. Do you look at any of

763
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:56,280
those experiences, having you know, done those you know, taking

764
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,440
hallucinogens in the past, is there anything that ever hinted

765
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,719
at you that this was more than just a trick

766
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,920
of the mind or is there a spiritual element to things?

767
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:09,320
Do you feel that you were in that state opened

768
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,599
up or maybe vulnerable to something other than just what

769
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960
the mind produces under the influence of psilocybin or something

770
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,239
else like that, or is there actually a spiritual element

771
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,480
to these substances?

772
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,079
Speaker 9: Right?

773
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 7: Well, Stargate was the one I mentioned about remote viewing,

774
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,360
so you know, it kind of overlaps with a lot

775
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,599
of the stuff that mk LTRA was interested in, including

776
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,199
the research into the entheagens and the hallucinogens, and yeah,

777
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,039
my own experience, I had a bad trip the first

778
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,800
time I did it, and I felt like that was

779
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,880
definitely demonic looking back on it. There was communication with

780
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,119
some kind of being an entity that was just a

781
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:47,800
point of light.

782
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,559
Speaker 11: And that was when I was about.

783
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:54,599
Speaker 7: Seventeen or eighteen, and I did acid maybe four or

784
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:57,920
five more times after that. So that was pretty much

785
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,639
the extent of my hallucinogen trials so speak. I mean,

786
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:06,280
it wasn't trials. We're just idiot teenagers partying, so but

787
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:08,480
you know, I'm liking it too, like an mk ultra

788
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:12,719
type experiment. But the other experiences weren't bad trips. They

789
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,280
were just kind of goofy silly times. But the first

790
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,679
time was definitely a bad trip. And I do think

791
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,599
that you can't have those opening up experiences where you

792
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,320
do experience something like that. I would not recommend that.

793
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,960
In fact, I've always been opposed to those things ever since,

794
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,239
you know, my youth coming out of that stuff. So

795
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:35,039
I've never gone back and done any illucinogen's never had

796
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,239
the desire to do it. I think it's really dangerous

797
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,199
something something that people shouldn't play with. But that's a

798
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,760
pretty common type of experience with d MT, with these

799
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,119
various you know, high powered tollucinogens. People you know, go

800
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,320
out of body and they see the d MT clockwork

801
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,760
elves and they see the you know, the gods and

802
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,840
the beings and the entities. And the thing about that

803
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:01,119
is that they usually tell people a false message. You know,

804
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:03,440
they usually say something like, we're here to help you.

805
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,519
If you, you know, listen to us, we can solve

806
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,519
earths problems. You got to depopulate, you need a world government,

807
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,920
you got to have a New Age religion. So you

808
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,119
get the same kind of demonic I would say influence,

809
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,960
and I don't I don't see how you could explain

810
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,840
it or why that would be there if there wasn't

811
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,760
a spiritual basis underlying these phenomena these experiences.

812
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's become very it's a very very important

813
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:36,760
cultural point too when it comes to especially movies. Obviously, well,

814
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,039
you can read all you want about MK Ultra. I mean,

815
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:42,239
there's a little bit more on Charles Manson that's been

816
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,599
coming out lately, some threads that have been put out

817
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:48,239
that I think were really interesting, and how much control

818
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,039
was there? What what's the what was the whitey Bulger?

819
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,679
We were learning a lot about these.

820
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was part of m culture in prison.

821
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And there's so much of this here too.

822
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,960
It be mind control or whether it be just using

823
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:07,039
these substances to to break a person and to help

824
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,719
make them disassociate in some way that can. So I

825
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,559
just thought that is really an interesting background for somebody

826
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:16,440
like you where you are right now, to have had

827
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,280
those experiences so early on, and I just never asked

828
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,360
you what you concluded from them, whether it was just

829
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:26,519
a goofy time or if you thought that, no, there

830
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,800
there was a doorway that you can that you can

831
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,840
access through this and it's probably one to stay away

832
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,480
from if you can.

833
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's that's what you know, opening that third

834
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,000
eye or you know what what the occult or the yoga,

835
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:42,400
the kundalini, all that kind of stuff I think is

836
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:46,000
hitting at similar things, and it's not necessarily a good thing.

837
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:47,880
I don't I don't think you should do that kind

838
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,119
of stuff. I think the people who are you know,

839
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,440
in saying the Orthodox Church, yet people are spiritually advanced

840
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,639
and they have, you know, experiences of experiencing God directly.

841
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:01,920
I guess you could say that kind of stuff that's

842
00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:04,599
kind of when you're at an advanced spiritual state, you

843
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,920
don't try to induce it through shortcut means of drugs

844
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,880
and stuff. So that's that's what I think I learned

845
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:15,440
as I've gotten older, is that a lot of that thing,

846
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,719
a lot of that stuff that dupes young people is

847
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,199
they think they're kind of going to kind of get

848
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,599
like a shortcut to spiritual enlightenment through these kinds of substances,

849
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:26,079
a lot of the you know, psychedelic bros. And that

850
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:28,320
sphere of stuff, and I really think it's all just

851
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,599
kind of a delusion, and it's also dangerous, you know,

852
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,760
opening up yourself to spiritual forces and deception.

853
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 3: Well, this is why I wanted to talk to you

854
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,360
about at least two off the bat movies that you

855
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,239
have listed in the table of contents for Hollywood Esoteric

856
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,599
Hollywood three, and both of them are Christopher Nolan films.

857
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:52,960
And one of my favorites is The Prestige. We'll get

858
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,039
to that in just a second. But the other one

859
00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:58,800
that I well, the second one was actually not the

860
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:04,360
Christopher Nolan film. It was the Fountain. Yeah, and this now,

861
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,719
I'm glad you have this on your list. A friend

862
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,519
of mine suggested this movie to me years ago. Got

863
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:13,199
Hugh Jackman Rachel Weiss in it, and it combines themes

864
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,639
of immortality, these two souls bonded through multiple lifetimes. But

865
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,039
on a simpler level, it's more there's a lot of

866
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,079
about acceptance of loss, soaking up relatively short time you

867
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,519
have with people you love and all that. But it's

868
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:31,079
bitterly sad, but at the same time it's gorgeous. And

869
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:34,039
I'm just I'm curious to you about what came through

870
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:36,840
to you on this one, because it is like a one.

871
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:41,119
It is one big trip, and I there's things that

872
00:50:41,159 --> 00:50:43,039
make me unsettled about it, and I just want to

873
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:45,000
see what you articulate first on that one.

874
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's an interesting movie.

875
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 7: It's Darren Aronofsky, who is kind of admittedly somewhat of

876
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,320
a cobbylist. You know, I think amongst directors, you have

877
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,199
a handful of directors that are kind of well own

878
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:05,960
that are pretty openly esoteric, occultic type practitioner followers, believers.

879
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:09,360
You've got ari astor to some degree. Who did you

880
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,360
know Midsommar and Hereditary. You've got Darren Aronofsky who's into Kabbala.

881
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,159
He did Pie Noah black Swan, and then he did

882
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,960
The Fountain, and there's a couple others like Robert Eggers

883
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,039
that did The Witch and no Saratu, and they're all

884
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:29,599
pretty openly interested in the occult. But I think that

885
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:38,639
in this film he's tying Native American mythology Aztec Inca

886
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,119
Mia mythology into the idea of the tree of life

887
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:47,719
in the garden, and it's combined with Buddhist philosophy and thought,

888
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:53,480
and it's combined with reincarnation, perhaps from the Kabbala or

889
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:56,320
from Eastern mysticism. It's hard to say, but I think

890
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,800
all of those kind of are wrapped up in this

891
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,880
idea that your soulmate perhaps is what completes you, and

892
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,159
that you're going to go through these life cycles until

893
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:10,119
you find that complement to your personality and to who

894
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:12,320
you are, and then that's what helps you to achieve

895
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,760
the sort of nirvana state or whatever it is. But

896
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,960
I did like the way that the film, just on

897
00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:21,519
a cinematic level and in a symbolic way, the way

898
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:24,239
it's done, I think it's an interesting film, so that's

899
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,400
why I included it in the analysis, was that there's

900
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,559
not a whole lot of films that have, you know,

901
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,639
philosophical symbolical depth, so it needed to be in there.

902
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,440
And it's from a couplistic director, so that's why I

903
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:38,119
put the film there.

904
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,599
Speaker 3: You know, I when it comes to move like that,

905
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,119
and I like it. It's one of those movies where

906
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,039
I think it's one of those things I would watch

907
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,960
maybe once every ten years, because it's just it takes

908
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,480
a lot out of you, especially with the sick wife,

909
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:54,000
and there's just so many things happening there. But I

910
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:57,639
think the thing that really makes me uncomfortable is the

911
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,840
depiction of space, the space in between worlds or what

912
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:04,960
comes after death or in this case, what comes in

913
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:08,280
between lives, and it's always so it makes me feel

914
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,719
so it's surreal, and it's isolating in that surreal feeling

915
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,159
as well, it's almost like it almost like it's a

916
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,880
form of hell in and of itself because you're always alone.

917
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:24,360
The main character is always alone, he's always struggling through something.

918
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:26,760
There's nobody there, Whereas at the end of a movie

919
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,880
like Ghost with Patrick Swayzey. You know, there's that you

920
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:33,599
get that swell of emotion and acceptance at the end,

921
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,440
no doubt, but you see Patrick Swayzey, he goes to

922
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:40,079
heaven and you're left with the assurances that, all right,

923
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,920
yeah this stings, but you're gonna see him again. But

924
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,599
movies like The Fountain, it just the suggestion that we're

925
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:50,920
just going to be lost in a bewildering, bewildering feedback

926
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,079
loop of soul recycling. It makes my stomach just sink

927
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,519
into my shoes and that's where I walk away from.

928
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:01,000
Maybe some people see it differently, but that's it's a trip.

929
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,079
That's why the first thing I thought about was this

930
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,119
movie when we were talking about LSD.

931
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:14,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've never seen any really convincing argumentation for reincarnation.

932
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:16,480
I always thought it to be kind of a silly position.

933
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,239
I mean, where are we getting the new souls from

934
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,639
if everything's just kind of being recycled. It kind of

935
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:25,119
doesn't make sense. But yeah, I mean it's an ancient,

936
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:27,719
you know, Hindu sort of pagan view and it ties

937
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,159
into pantheism and these kind of you know and ultimately

938
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:34,880
called animistic animistic doctrines.

939
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,679
Speaker 11: So Yeah, it's it's an interesting film.

940
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 7: I mean, I like you, I might rewatch it every

941
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,800
ten years or so, but I mean I think there's

942
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,760
some other, you know, really fascinating films in there.

943
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 11: What's another one you wanted.

944
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,039
Speaker 3: To talk about? The Prestige, Yeah, that one of my

945
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:53,519
ahead No, I was that this is one of my

946
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:57,039
favorites right here. So I want to know what comes

947
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:59,199
through with you, because there's there's a lot that I

948
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,599
can pick from you. These two obsessive, competing magicians that

949
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,159
are willing to throw it all away to destroy each

950
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:09,840
other personally or whatever. Professionally, you got these little hits

951
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,320
of high science. David Bowie as Nikola Tesla was perfect.

952
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,280
Then of course there's all these ethical dilemmas, but there's

953
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,000
it's psychological too, because everything is an illusion. They as

954
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:23,960
Hugh Jackman says in that movie as well about Borden,

955
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,039
he lives his act. So you don't know who's getting

956
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:29,679
gas lit and you don't know what's happening there. And uh,

957
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,400
I'm just curious what your biggest nuggets you took away

958
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,039
from that one is.

959
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 7: I did a pretty lengthy, pretty deep analysis and it

960
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,000
was written some years backside to kind of rewrite some

961
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:47,199
of it. But yeah, the first I don't know, one, two, three, four, five,

962
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,920
the first six chapters of my book, which the chapters

963
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,519
have got short, so I don't know. It's like the

964
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:57,119
first thirty forty pages of the third book deals with

965
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Nolan films, and I think that, you know, No One

966
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:03,320
was really at his peak in the two thousands.

967
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 11: I don't think that.

968
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 7: The more recent No. One films have been very good.

969
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,719
I'm not a huge fan of Oppenheimer, but I do

970
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,039
think that Inception Interstellar were good. A lot of people

971
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:16,199
don't like Interstellar. Batman Tulogy was good, and I think

972
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,400
the Prestige was really good. And it's operating, I think,

973
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,639
on multiple levels. So on one level, it's telling us

974
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,079
the story, as you mentioned about these magicians that are competing,

975
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,880
and I'm sure everybody's perhaps seen it, so I'm not

976
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,880
going to be spoiling anything if I talk about how

977
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,199
the twist the reveal. You know, it says this three

978
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:37,039
stage process to it, and the reveal is, of course,

979
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:41,159
the that they were twin brothers. Right, so this whole

980
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:43,480
time there was two of them. You never really knew

981
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:45,760
that or realized that, but they were so devoted to

982
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,679
their craft that they both lived their whole lives hiding

983
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,280
the secret of their being twin brothers.

984
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 11: And the Tesla stuff is weird is kind.

985
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 7: Of thrown in there as an odd side thing, but

986
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,679
it's also kind of clue because the idea in the

987
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,920
Tesla tech stuff played by David Bowie of Ball People,

988
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:10,199
is that somehow there's cloning. So it's like the Tesla

989
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:16,320
teleportation electromagnetic field disturbance free energy stuff that Tesla is

990
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,800
doing somehow is like causing multiple people if you try

991
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,760
to teleport or whatever, then you get like two, three,

992
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,239
four twenty David Bowies. So it's like, on the one hand,

993
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:32,079
it's playing with the reality of technology getting us to

994
00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:35,480
this almost godlike status at the same time as the

995
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:41,719
magicians doing this sort of stage routine that's a deception

996
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:45,519
and the real science is sort of hidden from everybody.

997
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:48,800
Everybody's following and playing attention to the magicians, and you've

998
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,280
got this, you know, almost godlike magic that's real magic

999
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,679
from the Tesla tech in the film.

1000
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 11: So there's a lot of different weird.

1001
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,159
Speaker 7: Layers and things going on as to how realistic or

1002
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,840
exactly what is going on with Tesla. Oh, that's clouded

1003
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,039
in mythology. Now it's hard to determine exactly, you know,

1004
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,360
what Tesla was up to and what's authentically fully his

1005
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:11,519
and whether the Navy's.

1006
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 11: You know, shut all this down.

1007
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,239
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we know that wireless stuff comes from Tesla,

1008
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,719
and we wouldn't have the Internet without Tesla. And but

1009
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,159
is did he create free energy?

1010
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:20,679
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1011
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,599
Speaker 7: Maybe did he create cloning from multiverse entities?

1012
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:26,079
Speaker 11: And being about that, But.

1013
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,679
Speaker 7: My main analysis focuses on the way that humans in

1014
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,119
the audiences perceive things in the stage show and in

1015
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:40,320
the film, and how the state, the establishment, the corporate

1016
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,280
media does the same thing to us. We're viewing the

1017
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:51,800
magic show and the script writers, like the intelligence agencies

1018
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,880
and you know, the powers that be, the oligarchs, they're

1019
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,199
sort of writing the script and doing the three stage

1020
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,840
model the film to us.

1021
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:06,159
Speaker 3: And to be honest, I think that is That's what

1022
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,719
a lot of people would say the purpose of staging

1023
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,639
something like a Challenger disaster would be because it's you know,

1024
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:19,400
all eyes are in the sky. It's emotional, it reaffirmed,

1025
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,679
you know, it makes you wonder, Okay, well, are we

1026
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,079
just going to give up when we hit us a

1027
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:26,679
bump in the road, or are we going to continue

1028
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:29,920
on in conquer space? You know, it's what they would

1029
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,360
want to do, you know, creating new heroes all that.

1030
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,639
But it's perfectly said, because of course we're this. I

1031
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:39,800
think this takes place around the very last years of

1032
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:46,199
the nineteenth century, and it's obviously there's no television or

1033
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:48,880
just a couple of decades before radio started becoming a

1034
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,360
little bit more a little bit more accessible to people,

1035
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:55,920
and it's just the night at the theater and how

1036
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,320
are people how's it being advertised in the papers? And

1037
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,599
it's it's a great thing that, you know, speaking of

1038
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,719
the last days of the nineteenth century. Have you done

1039
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,960
a breakdown on the Sherlock Holmes the Robert Downey Junior

1040
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,039
Shirlock Holmes movies.

1041
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,679
Speaker 7: I did a video on that many years ago. I

1042
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:16,440
think the video is still on my channel. So there

1043
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,280
is a video about It's about twelve or thirteen minute

1044
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:24,119
esoteric analysis of the the first Sharlock Holmes. There's sort

1045
01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:27,519
of a Lord Blackwood character that's based on Crowley, and

1046
01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:32,039
he's trying to bring in this magical aon at the

1047
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:34,920
end of time. He's going to be this god figure

1048
01:00:35,159 --> 01:00:38,599
in the quasi Masonic secret society that he works with,

1049
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,599
is right, He's got them all duped into believing that

1050
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:43,760
he has these magical powers, very similar to kind of

1051
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,159
the theme of the Prestige. And of course, you know

1052
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:51,840
Sherlock undermines all that and uses science to disseminate or

1053
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,480
too me to destroy the disinformation that Lord Blackwood is

1054
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:59,119
engaging in. And Part two is also interesting because it's

1055
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:04,039
about the powers that be sort of causing World War

1056
01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:07,280
One and funding both sides, with Moriarty sort of being

1057
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,480
this figure he's tied into the arms factories that are

1058
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:14,880
funding both sides of World War One and the assassination

1059
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:19,039
of Franz Ferdinand to kick off the war. So I

1060
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:22,079
enjoyed both of those. Other were well made, and Guy

1061
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:24,800
Ritchie is a good directory. He makes pretty good films overall.

1062
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:27,079
But I do think the first one was the most

1063
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:30,440
sort of esoteric and a lot of references to you know,

1064
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:36,320
Crowleyan type colts going on. But I didn't include that

1065
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:39,119
in this book, but it is on my channel as

1066
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:39,760
an analysis.

1067
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are great. Those are great, and for all

1068
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:44,840
those reasons, it's kind of chilling in the second one

1069
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,400
when they're all in the artillery yard or wherever the

1070
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,400
hell it was, and you start realizing that this is

1071
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:53,440
this is a building up toward World War One. They're

1072
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,039
just on the opposite side of nineteen hundred or whatever

1073
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:59,760
the hell it is. And it's pretty crazy almost, you know,

1074
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,239
you almost be like tipping your cap to when they

1075
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,800
did when they brought Daniel Craig on to be Double

1076
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,480
O seven and when they did Casino Royale and he's

1077
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:12,280
getting a little bit of a debrief with by Moneypenny

1078
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:15,239
by Am over there at right when they're still in

1079
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,320
the Bahamas, and she was talking about what was going

1080
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,480
on with the the air bus that was going to

1081
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:25,159
be blown up because Leschief had shorted all the airline

1082
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:28,679
stocks with the terrorist money, and she actually referenced to

1083
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,280
the shorting of stocks the night before nine to eleven.

1084
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:34,639
I said, holy shit, I mean that's that even back then.

1085
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,159
I said, that's pretty bold right there, because yeah, these

1086
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:40,079
are these are these are big, uh, these are big

1087
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:42,639
rolls of the dice that we see happening throughout history

1088
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,599
that most people are just told, oh that's nothing, it's

1089
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:46,960
just it happens.

1090
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the screenwriters pretty much of most of

1091
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:53,400
the Bond films are pretty aware of what's going on

1092
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:56,800
because they have almost always laced the films and the

1093
01:02:57,159 --> 01:03:02,440
narratives with real events and real things and real quote conspiracies.

1094
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:06,400
That's one of the many examples. I think in my

1095
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,679
first book, I did quite a bit of Bond that

1096
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:11,079
there's about sixty seventy pages of Bond stuff in my

1097
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:14,079
first esoteric Hollywood book. And now of course goes back

1098
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:16,960
to you know, Ian Fleming being naval intelligence and for

1099
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:22,400
the British and then British Intelligence basically putting a lot

1100
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,760
of his own personal experience into those stories, describing what

1101
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,880
he had seen, but fictionalizing it and making it somewhat

1102
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,760
propaganda as well. So I'm not saying that the Bond

1103
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,719
stories tell you everything, but you do get you know,

1104
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,679
like Hugo Drax and these sorts of characters that are

1105
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,639
you know, kind of like Bill Gates or Epstein type

1106
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:44,079
characters who you know, they want to depopulate everybody, They

1107
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:46,760
want to create their own new human race. They want

1108
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,920
to be the God Adam figure to a new race.

1109
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:51,400
You know, if you watch Moon Raker for example, and

1110
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,760
then we see you know, in reality, you have people

1111
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,440
that are really like that, they really want to do that.

1112
01:03:55,679 --> 01:03:58,000
So there's a lot of truth in those stories and

1113
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:02,960
in those films. But for this one, spy wise, I

1114
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:06,880
did include a pretty significant espionage section. And this time

1115
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,760
I went with all of the tom Cruise Mission Impossible films,

1116
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,480
so I did an analysis of all of them. It's

1117
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,079
towards the end, it's maybe, I don't know, a ten

1118
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:20,199
fifteen page analysis of all those. I did the Saint,

1119
01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:21,880
which I think is a nineties class that you know,

1120
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,519
the bal Kilmer Churs Balkimer just passed away, but Elizabeth

1121
01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:27,239
Shuvalkilmer in The Saint. I really enjoyed the nineteen ninety

1122
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,840
seven version of that, and that is a lot of

1123
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,480
esoteric alchemical stuff. And and he's Simon Templar. He's named

1124
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:38,360
after the Gnostic, you know, Magas in the Book of Acts.

1125
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:42,679
So there's a lot going on espionage wise in Esther

1126
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,960
Hollywood three as well.

1127
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 3: But what about the Total Recall. I see nineteen, I

1128
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,840
see the nineteen ninety Total I never saw the the remake,

1129
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:56,719
but total Recall. I can just imagine where that all goes, given,

1130
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,320
you know, implanted memories of you know, being able to

1131
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,760
go somewhere and have a memory of vacation implanted into

1132
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,360
your mind, and then to show up at the memory

1133
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,559
bank and actually have a suppressed memory come forward that

1134
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:15,119
you actually were on Mars and and then I mean, Manny,

1135
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:18,559
it goes into the deep of the deep ends after that.

1136
01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:19,559
I love that movie.

1137
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did watch the new one, and I actually

1138
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,039
wrote back when it came out, the remake most people

1139
01:05:29,079 --> 01:05:30,679
didn't really like it, the one with Colin Ferrell. I

1140
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,000
did a little analysis of it on my website back

1141
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:35,800
in the day. But no, this is an analysis actually

1142
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,239
of the original. And yeah, I mean I get into

1143
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,199
mk Eltri stuff.

1144
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:46,199
Speaker 11: I get into the idea of you know, Philip K.

1145
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,719
Speaker 7: Dick was playing with matrix type ideas before the Matrix,

1146
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,440
And if you watch All Recall, it's interesting because until Recall,

1147
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,960
the red pill is a bad thing because the red

1148
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,280
pill is going to pot wake him up. But it's

1149
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,639
actually not designed to do that, right because in the film,

1150
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,239
you know, the main Arnold Schwarzenegger character, he doesn't know

1151
01:06:09,559 --> 01:06:13,239
whether he's still in the matrix or whether he's out

1152
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:13,440
of it.

1153
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 11: So it's kind of a matrix before the matrix type

1154
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:16,599
of plot.

1155
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 7: And you know, it's a classic, you know, eighties ninety

1156
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:23,119
I forget exactly it might be right on the bridge

1157
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:26,719
of eighties and ninety but future dystopia and a lot

1158
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,079
of mars Ufo crap that I think is just kind

1159
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:34,599
of propaganda. But but yeah, I think the main point

1160
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,559
that PKD was after, and that was the danger of

1161
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:44,400
a society that becomes obsessed with the synthetic and retreating

1162
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:49,239
into technology and that being kind of a synthetic version

1163
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:55,119
of our bliss that could entrap us. And that was

1164
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:57,639
way before the matrix.

1165
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,639
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Yeah, what do you think

1166
01:06:59,679 --> 01:07:03,119
about speaking of synthetic and this is another rabbit hole?

1167
01:07:03,559 --> 01:07:07,920
Do you ever give any any thought to celebrity cloning theories?

1168
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,199
Because I always keep an open mind with this. There's

1169
01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:14,480
always a video or a slide show of people come.

1170
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,960
I just saw this latest video that came across my,

1171
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:20,320
uh my feed on on Instagram that was a side

1172
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,599
by side with Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things and

1173
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:28,440
Elizabeth Perkins from Big and I said, holy shit, I mean,

1174
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:33,719
it's it's nuts and it there's so many of those examples.

1175
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,840
Now I'm open to this and I'm going to give

1176
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,400
you a couple of reasons why, but I just want

1177
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,400
to see what what you have thought about this from

1178
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:44,079
because whether they're being cloned or whether it's just about

1179
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:49,639
conditioning and handling. On a psychological level, there's there's a

1180
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,599
there's a lot of manipulation going on amongst starlits for

1181
01:07:53,639 --> 01:07:55,840
a long time. So just wanted to see where you're

1182
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:56,199
at with this.

1183
01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:00,599
Speaker 7: Personally, I'm a skeptic about clones. I'm not convinced that

1184
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,039
and I'm saying in general whether there really is cloning

1185
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:07,719
because I've looked it into it some and usually when

1186
01:08:07,719 --> 01:08:11,119
they say, you know, oh, we've we've grown the ear

1187
01:08:11,199 --> 01:08:15,320
of a human inside the back of a mouse, and

1188
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,840
then you go and read into it and it's like

1189
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,399
they actually just stuck the cartilage of a year underneath

1190
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,800
the back of the mouse, so it's like that's not

1191
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:25,279
really growing an air. And then when you read about

1192
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:27,640
like when they say they've cloned Dolly or one of

1193
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,560
these sheets or whatever, or this pig is you know,

1194
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:32,680
five percent clone pig or.

1195
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,319
Speaker 11: Whatever, like when you look into it, they're they're actually.

1196
01:08:36,039 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 7: Just saying that it's like zero point two percent DNA

1197
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,079
of some other thing or you know what I mean.

1198
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:48,520
Speaker 11: It's like, it's not very convincing to me that necessarily

1199
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,960
there is cloning. But I don't know. I don't have

1200
01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:51,600
a set opinion.

1201
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 7: I've just not seen it, so I don't know whether

1202
01:08:54,039 --> 01:08:58,239
it's real or not. Just a skeptical on a lot

1203
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:00,239
of this stuff. I was in terms of Hollywood pe people,

1204
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:03,239
I doubt it. There are body doubles though, so this

1205
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:05,359
is something that we can verify. We do know exist,

1206
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,520
like powerful figures, maybe even Hollywood people if they're like

1207
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,399
super high level, you know, super a lists, like probably

1208
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:15,600
a Tom Cruise or something like that. Like I could

1209
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,000
see Tom Cruise paying somebody to be a body double,

1210
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,039
you know, say he's getting death threats, say he's got

1211
01:09:22,079 --> 01:09:24,880
a stalker, so something like this, Right, maybe Tom Cruise

1212
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,119
pay somebody to you know, appear an event, just smile

1213
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:31,399
and walk down a red carpet or something. And that's

1214
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,920
not far fetched because we've seen world leaders on record

1215
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:38,800
have body doubles. So Dom Hussein famously had multiple body doubles.

1216
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,479
And so if heads of states do it, which are

1217
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,119
in more of a dangerous position probably than an actor,

1218
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:50,319
I could see, you know, that's definitely true, but I

1219
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,319
would think they have maybe a body double over cloning.

1220
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,560
But I've not seen the picture that you're talking about

1221
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,920
with the girl from Big and Millie Bubby.

1222
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 3: Well, i'll maybe i'll at the end when we're getting off,

1223
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,439
I'll put it up there just for shits and giggles.

1224
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,199
But the reason why I'm open to this stuff is

1225
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:11,199
because when you think about what has already been thrown

1226
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:16,239
out there just in the name of transhumanism, and you know,

1227
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,520
genetic modification of things, or people trying to identify what

1228
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,199
could be an issue for somebody down the line and

1229
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:28,880
taking preventative measures to alter the body or augmentation in

1230
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,279
some way. There's a lot of these weird Frankensteinish things

1231
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:35,640
going on. Obviously that's a lot different than wholesale cloning

1232
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,960
of a person or of an animal. But you and

1233
01:10:40,039 --> 01:10:43,000
I were talking about mechanized reproduction in twenty twenty three,

1234
01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:46,119
right as we finish Brave New World, and shortly after

1235
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:49,720
that we got word of the baby lambs being sustained

1236
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,159
in artificial placentas, and I brought you back on we talked. Now,

1237
01:10:53,399 --> 01:10:57,159
of course, here's the whole thing. There's the stated purpose

1238
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,880
for what the hell they say, say that it's all

1239
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,840
about this, of course, was that hopefully one day premature

1240
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,399
babies can have some time inside of these artificial amniotic

1241
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,319
sacs instead of being in an incubator somewhere if they're

1242
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:17,560
born premie. Last month we had MIT. This was a

1243
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,840
Now you can say, this is probably gonna be bullshit

1244
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,199
on the face of it. Will it ever happen, I

1245
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:25,399
don't know, but the fact that it's coming from MIT

1246
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,680
is pretty interesting. They've been talking about spare bodies that

1247
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,880
they wanted to create. They call them bodyoids. They're essentially brainless,

1248
01:11:33,159 --> 01:11:36,720
spiritless bodies, bodies that would revolutionize the way that we

1249
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,880
harvest organs or even provide meat. It was really crazy

1250
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,159
what they put out there. And it's MIT this week

1251
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:50,600
cloning experience experiments through the guise of de extinction, you know,

1252
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,000
as if the world needs dire wolves. I'm sure you

1253
01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:56,880
saw that. And again, that's one of those things where

1254
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,079
if this thing doesn't grow up to be the size

1255
01:11:59,119 --> 01:12:01,680
of a rhinoceros, then I'm not going to believe that

1256
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,680
this was some extinct DNA of a wolf.

1257
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 7: That was yeah, well I read on the wolf thing.

1258
01:12:07,119 --> 01:12:10,279
That was another kind of misnumber, like they were saying

1259
01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:11,840
it was this, but it's like, oh no, this is

1260
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,039
actually just a wolf and suppose it has like part

1261
01:12:15,119 --> 01:12:18,359
of the dire I don't know, it wasn't. Actually it

1262
01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:20,560
didn't sound like actually what they were claiming it was

1263
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:21,640
the one I read into it.

1264
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. So that's what I'm saying. There is,

1265
01:12:26,279 --> 01:12:29,880
like you said, the show in the prestige, and then

1266
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,520
there is what's the science that's actually being worked on

1267
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,239
behind the scene. What did they get from this little stunt.

1268
01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:38,680
I'm sure something was gleaned from it that would be

1269
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,439
useful for some other projects. While we were given the

1270
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,359
first dial dire wolf howl that was ever heard in

1271
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,600
ten thousand years and everybody went Google gaga over it,

1272
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,000
but what was really achieved? And then I believe on

1273
01:12:52,079 --> 01:12:54,960
the same day as the we got the headlines about

1274
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,520
the wolf, we got the headlines from the NHS in

1275
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,000
the UK about a baby, the first baby that was

1276
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:05,880
born by way of wound transplant. And I mean, I

1277
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,199
don't I'm telling you man. As far as mechanized reproduction,

1278
01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:12,520
Brave New World stuff goes, it seems like all the

1279
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,880
all the pieces are are lining up.

1280
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean that seems more likely than.

1281
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 7: That there are all these clone people walking around. I mean,

1282
01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:24,239
but again, maybe maybe I just don't know enough about it.

1283
01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:27,239
I just I don't even know how given that there's

1284
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:29,279
so much bull crap out there, Like, I don't even

1285
01:13:29,319 --> 01:13:31,680
know how I would how would I, as an observer

1286
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,000
even go about verifying, you know, whether any of this

1287
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:38,439
is real because I don't trust claims of MI I T.

1288
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,760
I mean, they put out bogus science bull crap all

1289
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,079
the time.

1290
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I T, so, I don't know.

1291
01:13:46,319 --> 01:13:49,319
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised. I would say this problem that

1292
01:13:49,399 --> 01:13:51,840
probably does exist synthetic womb, I could see.

1293
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,279
Speaker 11: That being real.

1294
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: But you know, you know where this is all that

1295
01:13:56,119 --> 01:13:59,039
that's heading right there, Brave New World. Yeah, that's that's

1296
01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:01,800
That's not This is not going to be nearly about

1297
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,920
giving women a Uh. This is going to be for whoever,

1298
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,920
whoever wants a womb is going to be able to

1299
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:07,439
get a womb.

1300
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 11: One day.

1301
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna put it in there.

1302
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, good point.

1303
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,279
Speaker 3: I mean, it's yeah, that's what I'm just saying. It's uh,

1304
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,159
it's nutty, and it all goes along with messaging and

1305
01:14:16,319 --> 01:14:18,640
what is being massaged into the psyche of the of

1306
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,039
the public. And of course, not only is the news

1307
01:14:22,079 --> 01:14:24,279
a big part of that, but the movies as well.

1308
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,920
Do you do you see anything breaking on that Because

1309
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,039
you're big into I mean, you do a lot of

1310
01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:32,039
comedy writing, you help produce other shows, not only yours.

1311
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:34,439
I know you work with Sam Hyde and and uh

1312
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,239
and we also we also have a lot of mutual

1313
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:39,399
friends that are into filmmaking. And a lot has changed

1314
01:14:39,399 --> 01:14:41,520
in the last few years, aside from just new media

1315
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,920
and how people are getting information and intellectual debate and

1316
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,840
all that stuff. As someone who covers esoteric Hollywood so much,

1317
01:14:50,039 --> 01:14:52,800
where do you see movie making as far as balance

1318
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:59,319
of power shifting in the next ten years. Is it

1319
01:14:59,399 --> 01:15:02,279
possible to shift the bounds of power against this that

1320
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:03,359
kind of moneyed interest.

1321
01:15:07,119 --> 01:15:11,279
Speaker 7: Maybe not without a transfer of wealth. So I mean

1322
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,640
maybe if people you know, get into bigcoin and we

1323
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,359
have this massive well transfer, which I think bigcoin is

1324
01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:19,760
the one of the future. I mean ten years from now,

1325
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,119
I would expect one bitcoin to be ten million dollars

1326
01:15:23,359 --> 01:15:27,680
perhaps or more per coin. So maybe when we've got

1327
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,520
the money, we can start funding more wholesome.

1328
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:33,319
Speaker 11: Artworks.

1329
01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 7: But for the meantime, I think the old studio system

1330
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,279
of Hollywood is pretty much done for a lot of

1331
01:15:39,359 --> 01:15:41,800
the Hollywood people are kind of admitting that, and now

1332
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,840
it's just turning into video games, and you know, the

1333
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,439
big tech companies having their own studios, so Amazon Studios,

1334
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,359
Apple Studios, Netflix.

1335
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:53,279
Speaker 11: You know what I mean.

1336
01:15:53,279 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 7: It's basically tech streaming companies that are the new studio system.

1337
01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:00,720
But you know, amongst the gen Z, it's weird. They

1338
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,319
don't really like movies, which is a new bizarre thing

1339
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:08,800
because mostly their attention spans have been destroyed from TikTok

1340
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,000
and scrolling, so they don't have the ability to sit

1341
01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:16,960
through a movie. So that's going to be a weird

1342
01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:22,159
phenomena to go through ten twenty years from now when

1343
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:26,920
the gen Z or the you know, culture bearers, will

1344
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,920
they even be making movies or will we just have

1345
01:16:29,119 --> 01:16:32,279
like thirty minute movies that are from TikTok?

1346
01:16:32,359 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 11: You know what I mean?

1347
01:16:33,079 --> 01:16:36,279
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I absolutely and I see it in the demograph.

1348
01:16:36,359 --> 01:16:39,800
I don't know what the how much you I have

1349
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,399
to assume you do study the metrics on all of

1350
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,680
your YouTube and everything else there too. I think that

1351
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,439
the generational splits in media consumption just based on what

1352
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,600
I'm able to collect on my YouTube, because Google provides

1353
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,560
the best metrics out of all of the streaming platforms

1354
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,880
out there, hands down, it is night and day. As

1355
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,279
far as who's now, I understand that. Also big tech

1356
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:13,800
companies and you know, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, they are prioritizing short,

1357
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:18,199
punchy two minutes in less content because people want to

1358
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:21,800
be able to digest this in a you know, doom

1359
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:27,159
scroll real reel to reel kind of a thing there. Right, So,

1360
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:32,159
the culture right now, by way of algorithm and dopamine

1361
01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:35,359
and how the brain works, the culture right now is

1362
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,920
going to short attention span. That is what we are

1363
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:41,760
primed for. And you can see it especially in my

1364
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:46,439
metrics there too. There's all whoever is watching my show

1365
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,239
between the ages of eighteen and twenty five, they're mostly

1366
01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:53,000
watching my highlights, the shorts and all that stuff. They

1367
01:17:53,039 --> 01:17:56,399
are most of that. It almost is like switching on

1368
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,960
a light switch in a room from on to off

1369
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,840
when it goes to the long form content. And that

1370
01:18:03,119 --> 01:18:08,199
is just immediately people about thirty to sixty five at

1371
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:13,239
that point who are watching long form conversation, and it

1372
01:18:13,399 --> 01:18:15,880
has to be it has to be tied into a

1373
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,039
lot of that stuff because I know it's generational at

1374
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:21,359
this point, maybe a one day it lengthens. But are

1375
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,479
you seeing that on your end?

1376
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with. I mean, I see

1377
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,920
the metrics, the analytics, like you're saying, and I don't think.

1378
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,479
I mean, I do almost all long form content, you know,

1379
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,039
on my channel. I do have some, you know, short stuff,

1380
01:18:38,279 --> 01:18:41,720
but I'm just looking at the metrics right now. It's

1381
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:49,640
like almost all of it is, like hardly anyone lasts

1382
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:57,199
more than sixteen to twenty five minutes. So my audience

1383
01:18:57,319 --> 01:19:03,439
is made up of almost all age forty excuse me,

1384
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:04,960
age twenty.

1385
01:19:06,079 --> 01:19:07,159
Speaker 11: To forty.

1386
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 7: That's almost all my audience, and anyone underneath that is

1387
01:19:13,039 --> 01:19:15,479
very small. Anyone above that is very small. But they don't, like,

1388
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,920
they don't watch more than fifteen to twenty minutes.

1389
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:18,119
Speaker 13: Now.

1390
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 7: Granted, maybe the information is just not that interesting that

1391
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,800
people want to watch it more than you know, fifteen

1392
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:30,720
to twenty minutes or whatever, but that's weird because like

1393
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,199
that means that the younger you go, the less attention

1394
01:19:34,319 --> 01:19:36,600
span there is, and the less that people are watching

1395
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,439
anything long form, and they're kind of like that would

1396
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,279
mean that something over twenty five minutes is long form content.

1397
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,720
I mean I do like three four or five hour

1398
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,520
debate streams. So yeah, it's crazy.

1399
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well you know what, Like I said, things

1400
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:52,399
change all the time, and we were young as well,

1401
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,960
and I would had answered my pants at that time too,

1402
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:57,079
and maybe I didn't want to sit down and watch anything.

1403
01:19:57,279 --> 01:19:59,000
But so maybe things change.

1404
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,279
Speaker 7: But you can all get your attention span back. You

1405
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:05,000
can be fixed, you can heal yourself from that.

1406
01:20:05,159 --> 01:20:07,520
Speaker 3: That's true, It's good, it could. And I think just

1407
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,319
sometimes growing and needing more than just those those quick

1408
01:20:11,359 --> 01:20:15,199
hits of a brain rot is uh is going to

1409
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:16,039
be something there too.

1410
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:19,279
Speaker 7: But hey, Frank, I apologize. I'm gonna my wife has

1411
01:20:19,359 --> 01:20:22,039
to do something in here. She got a podcast too,

1412
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:23,920
so I'm going to have to head out here in

1413
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,079
about a couple of minutes.

1414
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:27,119
Speaker 3: Oh, no problem. I was just gonna let you plug

1415
01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:29,920
your stuff anyway. Just in wrapping up that thought, I

1416
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,560
was just saying that, you know, it's it's one of

1417
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,520
those things that we all evolve along the way, and

1418
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:39,000
hopefully that's that's that's that takes that takes a hold.

1419
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:41,600
But you know, on the corporate side. You can see

1420
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,119
that it's actually set up to feed into this trend

1421
01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:46,039
and hopefully people are able to break out of it.

1422
01:20:46,119 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 17: But right, uh, and.

1423
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,079
Speaker 3: Moving forward, what do you got coming up? Obviously you're

1424
01:20:50,079 --> 01:20:52,239
always live, you're always active, and you have things that

1425
01:20:52,319 --> 01:20:54,319
are going to be published over the next couple of months.

1426
01:20:54,399 --> 01:20:57,159
And what do you have next for for Jay Dyer?

1427
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean look for the start calling with three,

1428
01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:02,279
you know, on my website. I'll have all that information

1429
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,800
up and I'll talk about it on social media everywhere. Again,

1430
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,720
don't know the exact date yet, but probably one of

1431
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,199
two months from now it'll be out and you signed

1432
01:21:11,239 --> 01:21:13,199
copies at the website as well as signed copies of

1433
01:21:13,279 --> 01:21:14,880
Part one and two and all the other stuff there.

1434
01:21:16,119 --> 01:21:20,199
Continuing to you know, I'll be writing for Sam Alex Jones.

1435
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:22,479
We're not exactly sure what's going on with, you know,

1436
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,760
the battle over info Wars, so that's all kind of

1437
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:25,760
up in the air. I don't know if I'll be

1438
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,439
doing that for forever, but as far as I'm aware,

1439
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,800
I will be doing it as long as it's available

1440
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,159
and it exists, so I mean, Alex will always exist,

1441
01:21:36,279 --> 01:21:41,479
but info Wars itself may not, so I will probably

1442
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,800
be doing some pretty big debates and appearances on whatever

1443
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:51,159
podcast a couple other big podcasts out in California, San Diego,

1444
01:21:51,399 --> 01:21:54,279
Vegas podcasts, So that'll be coming up in the next

1445
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,720
the next month, so you can look for that stuff.

1446
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 3: Well, safe travels, my friend, and keep kicking ass and

1447
01:21:59,039 --> 01:22:00,600
I'm sure we'll talk soon and all the best of

1448
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,920
you and Jamie and uh yeah, have a good one.

1449
01:22:03,239 --> 01:22:05,680
All right, thanks, Ray, All right, there you go, Jaydiyer

1450
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,680
jasonalysis dot com. Well, you know what, we lost about

1451
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,439
twenty minutes there, but I got most of everything in

1452
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,199
and it's alright, it's eight twenty. I'm gonna take a

1453
01:22:16,319 --> 01:22:18,520
really really quick break. When we come back, we're taking

1454
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,640
your calls and uh, I'm looking forward to that. Nine

1455
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,600
one four two two sixty nine. You could also jump

1456
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,800
into the discord and I can pull you in that way.

1457
01:22:28,119 --> 01:22:28,840
Be right back.

1458
01:22:37,359 --> 01:22:54,319
Speaker 14: Welcome to intermission. Yeah, intermission.

1459
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,279
Speaker 10: The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you.

1460
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 3: He's fifteenth kay ten ten commandments.

1461
01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 7: Quite Frankly, he's amazing.

1462
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,359
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a cat, shall we? Hey, six

1463
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:03,960
one four, you're on the air. Who's this?

1464
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,399
Speaker 9: Hey, frank this is Tim, I actually sent you the

1465
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:11,920
PSA earlier.

1466
01:24:12,399 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Tim, let me ask you, because I don't remember

1467
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,319
the methanphetamine one. Is that real or did somebody just

1468
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,479
make that and make it look like an authentic nineteen

1469
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:22,359
nineties PSA?

1470
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 9: No, that was a real PSA in the nineteen nineties.

1471
01:24:27,319 --> 01:24:30,880
I remember that as a kid, and probably the last

1472
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,800
one I sent you as well, and with the dog.

1473
01:24:34,319 --> 01:24:36,960
Both of those I remember so vividly as a kid

1474
01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:40,159
because instead of not wanting to do drugs, I was like,

1475
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,840
you know what, mess sounds like a good thing if

1476
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,319
I really want to get my house cleaning.

1477
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,239
Speaker 3: No, I know it's not good at the end that

1478
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:52,039
she's covered in lesions, But other than that, I mean

1479
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:53,800
like the house looked fantastic.

1480
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,399
Speaker 9: Oh yes, the most productive woman on her entire block.

1481
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 3: Well, listen, Tim.

1482
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,159
Speaker 9: And the last one I sent you was the dog.

1483
01:25:03,239 --> 01:25:05,119
I was like, if my dog could talk to me,

1484
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:08,199
I'm doing whatever they're giving me.

1485
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see here. The last one with the dog.

1486
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:13,399
You know, no matter what it is, I'm going to

1487
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,479
save it for tomorrow because I think Mike Baldwin is

1488
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:16,600
going to get a kick out of it. And I

1489
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,880
all maybe I'll look for some more PSA s. I

1490
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,680
know that the cannabis ones with the ninja turtles. I

1491
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,840
remember that one. I'm not a chicken, You're a turkey.

1492
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:26,239
You remember that one?

1493
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 9: Yes, oh, I most definitely do. And by the way,

1494
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,079
I want to apologize to Jay Dyer. When I seen

1495
01:25:32,119 --> 01:25:34,359
your post. I've seen Jay and I was speed reading,

1496
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,640
so I immediately thought of Jamison Gulinello.

1497
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, so I.

1498
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 9: Was taking health and I'm like, oh, let me te so.

1499
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,359
But it was Jay Dyer also awesome, awesome guests on

1500
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,000
the show tonight, great show, Frank.

1501
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Tim and And to be honest, I

1502
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,279
never even thought two ways about I thought you meant

1503
01:25:54,399 --> 01:25:58,279
Jay Dyer. Because there's something to be said about the

1504
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:03,239
the the anti drug PSA messages of the late eighties

1505
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,840
and early nineties. I mean, it was part of the

1506
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,640
culture back then. It's of course, it's messaging from a

1507
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:15,239
central authority, and it's worthy of some analysis, it really is.

1508
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 9: And saying that I am a gate kid, by the way.

1509
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 3: You really gate yes, yes, okay? So was your your

1510
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:30,000
experiences in the Gate program just kind of mundane? Like

1511
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:32,159
many people have told me or do you have some

1512
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,640
very strange things that you remember, like sleep away camp stories?

1513
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:41,199
Speaker 9: Uh, not sleep away camp stories. I do remember like

1514
01:26:41,359 --> 01:26:44,479
trying to guess the next card. I remember them teaching

1515
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,479
me chess in second grade, and I think like second

1516
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,960
grade kids were actually just learning like Puff the Magic Dragon,

1517
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,720
but they were teaching us chess. But I've had multiple

1518
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,399
instances throughout my life after that that's kind of been

1519
01:26:59,079 --> 01:26:59,640
very strange.

1520
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me try I think of some of

1521
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,359
the things there too. There were there was a list

1522
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,079
that we were working off of that A lot of

1523
01:27:06,119 --> 01:27:09,239
people in Gate and Tag or any of the iterations

1524
01:27:09,279 --> 01:27:11,920
over the years have had in common. Do you do

1525
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,199
you have that you have?

1526
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 9: I have drowned. I have not had an Israeli girlfriend.

1527
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 3: Okay, no, not just Israeli girlfriend, Israeli art student girlfriend.

1528
01:27:23,039 --> 01:27:26,159
Speaker 9: Art student girlfriend, no note of that. But I have drowned.

1529
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:29,960
I have been in between middle school and high school.

1530
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:34,760
I was invited to Washington, DC summer camp, like Youth

1531
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,560
for Leadership or something, but we didn't have like the

1532
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,960
money to send me and it was some weird program.

1533
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:42,800
It was also through Gate.

1534
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:45,079
Speaker 3: What about the back of What about the back of

1535
01:27:45,159 --> 01:27:48,199
your head? I believe it was almost like a cliff.

1536
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,920
I don't know, it's it's the formation of your skull.

1537
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,600
Does it come into like a point in the back

1538
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:53,079
of your head.

1539
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 9: No, the back of my head is completely flat. And

1540
01:27:58,119 --> 01:27:59,920
the joke has always been it's because my parents did

1541
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:02,239
love me enough but left me lying in the crisp.

1542
01:28:02,319 --> 01:28:03,239
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry to hear that.

1543
01:28:04,199 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 9: Oh no, it's vibe.

1544
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 3: All right. Uh okay, So last question before I let

1545
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,520
you go. Somebody a couple of people said that they

1546
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:21,800
felt that ever since they were in the program, they

1547
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:27,520
have had some very unusual help from the law, like

1548
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,239
they've gotten out of some sticky legal situations way too easily.

1549
01:28:31,279 --> 01:28:32,119
Speaker 11: They didn't know why.

1550
01:28:32,319 --> 01:28:37,159
Speaker 3: They always thought like somebody was looking out for them. Absolutely, really,

1551
01:28:37,399 --> 01:28:38,319
do you have any examples?

1552
01:28:40,119 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 9: I was I went to the military. There was multiple

1553
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,479
times drinking and driving. The middle of I was pited

1554
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,560
at lot. We were supposed to have somebody that was

1555
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,359
a designated driver. He ended up getting drunk, of course,

1556
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,159
so we had to figure out who's the least drunk

1557
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:59,399
to drive back from Mexico to base. So I'm the

1558
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,640
least drunk, So I'm driving, we get pulled, I get

1559
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,039
pulled over. I'm swerving all over the road. Cop comes

1560
01:29:04,119 --> 01:29:06,439
up to me. I pull out my license, He looks

1561
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,640
at it, he goes back to his car, runs me,

1562
01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:12,039
comes back to the car and says, hey, you guys

1563
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:14,159
need to follow me back to the police station and

1564
01:29:14,319 --> 01:29:15,680
sleep it off in the parking lot.

1565
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 3: That's strange.

1566
01:29:18,399 --> 01:29:21,119
Speaker 9: And we had drove straight to the police station, and

1567
01:29:21,239 --> 01:29:23,279
of course he pulls out to go catch other people,

1568
01:29:23,359 --> 01:29:26,960
so we ended up pulling back out. I've had many

1569
01:29:27,039 --> 01:29:29,439
run ins with the lull where I probably should have

1570
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,399
gotten something done, you know, tickets, and they just go

1571
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:34,279
ahead and let me pass.

1572
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, unless you had a really really cool cop,

1573
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,239
because otherwise that that would be a knock on the

1574
01:29:41,319 --> 01:29:44,279
door for all of your parents or whoever the hell's

1575
01:29:44,279 --> 01:29:47,439
looking after you at school or your your the authorities,

1576
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,239
whatever the hell. I forget if you said that was

1577
01:29:49,239 --> 01:29:51,199
when you were already in the military or before then,

1578
01:29:51,319 --> 01:29:56,319
but that must have been a really cool cop or somebody.

1579
01:29:57,039 --> 01:29:59,760
There's there's some some sort of a note attached to

1580
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:04,319
your file. Who knows, who knows? Welcome, Thanks for the call.

1581
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 9: I believe there is, But I'm not gonna push my luck.

1582
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,039
Speaker 3: No, don't don't. You're already ahead of the game. You're

1583
01:30:10,039 --> 01:30:12,640
playing with house money. Do me a favor. If you

1584
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,600
find any more fun PSAs, just keep tweeting them at

1585
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,119
me in that same thread and I'll collect them for tomorrow.

1586
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:20,880
And I just want to get I think that it

1587
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,079
would be fun to get some reaction from Mike Baldwin

1588
01:30:23,119 --> 01:30:23,560
when he's.

1589
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 9: On with me. Awesome, awesome, good to talk to you, Frank,

1590
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:27,039
all right.

1591
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,159
Speaker 3: Have a good one. Take care. There goes Tim. Everybody

1592
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,319
call on in nine one four two hundred two sixty nine.

1593
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,600
It is eight twenty nine, and uh, we got a

1594
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,840
half hour left, so we're just going to be taking

1595
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,680
your calls. Let me see, let me see. We have

1596
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,560
a rumble rant on the quite frankly rumble that we're

1597
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,840
gonna go check out what's going on with bad Lands.

1598
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,119
All of our friends that are joining us over there too.

1599
01:30:49,359 --> 01:30:51,319
Jay simmos As, I've been catching up with the live

1600
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:54,960
shows all week. Last night was intense. Keep it up, Frank,

1601
01:30:55,359 --> 01:30:57,680
thank you. I have something on last night as well.

1602
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:03,840
It just came in before the show started. It was

1603
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,439
pretty intense. The second half of the show was great.

1604
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,520
I love talking about the tariff stuff. I think it's

1605
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:13,079
exciting what's happening on that end, but it's it was

1606
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,800
the two times that that Brandon Joe Williams was on

1607
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,159
it has been intense only because of the volume of

1608
01:31:21,239 --> 01:31:24,760
stuff and also the implication of course, we're talking about

1609
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:30,039
declaring sovereignty from the tax matrix. And and you know

1610
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,960
how you stand as far as legal definition in opposition

1611
01:31:36,199 --> 01:31:40,520
to the United States of America, and whether or not

1612
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,720
you pay your income taxes, how you exist in that

1613
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,600
world without doing all that stuff. But and and that

1614
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,199
is all well and good until we got to the

1615
01:31:48,399 --> 01:31:54,640
very end about the the endorsement notes, writing an endorsement

1616
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:59,479
note to just drive away with new cars without any

1617
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,880
intention of actually exchanging currency or barter or putting up

1618
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,159
any kind of collateral to attain it. So we'll talk

1619
01:32:08,199 --> 01:32:10,079
about that in a second, because I got an email

1620
01:32:10,119 --> 01:32:12,279
before we want live all right, six four six, We

1621
01:32:12,399 --> 01:32:15,439
got a local yokel over here. What's going on New York?

1622
01:32:16,279 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 6: Hey, it's Larry and Brooklyn.

1623
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,159
Speaker 3: Larry, how are you go ahead?

1624
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 6: It's been a while, dude. I love when you talk

1625
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:22,880
to this stuff. Man, this is my wheelhouse.

1626
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,119
Speaker 3: Good yeah, Ja Duyer.

1627
01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:26,560
Speaker 6: He was right, he was right on it. I got

1628
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,479
to call him out a little bit because I've recognized

1629
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,359
his language over a lot of years. I know that

1630
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,640
he's close. He's not going to talk about Fie, but

1631
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,800
he's really close. He's already skeptic of He's a skeptic

1632
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:40,279
of NASA. He's a skeptic of space. And you guys

1633
01:32:40,359 --> 01:32:43,640
covered the gamut tonight. I love the talking about the

1634
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:47,199
movies and the predictive programming and how it's subtly laced

1635
01:32:47,239 --> 01:32:49,279
over the course of generations to get you to believe

1636
01:32:49,319 --> 01:32:52,840
in a certain thing. And I mean, really like, this

1637
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,039
is how we understand propaganda these days.

1638
01:32:55,119 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, here, here, here's a little bit over. Here's

1639
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:03,640
the table of contents he sent me over so total recall.

1640
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,279
I think that that I can't wait to take a

1641
01:33:06,359 --> 01:33:09,840
look at that. But Mary Poppins, I should have asked

1642
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,079
him about Mary Poppins.

1643
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 6: And now I want to go out Mary Poppins. Listen

1644
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:18,720
to listen to what she says throughout the picture. She goes,

1645
01:33:19,359 --> 01:33:23,000
just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.

1646
01:33:23,079 --> 01:33:26,800
This is this is preprediction for all medicine is good.

1647
01:33:27,279 --> 01:33:29,079
Just take some sugar with it. All medicine is good.

1648
01:33:29,119 --> 01:33:32,920
We're finding out these days that perhaps it isn't. Well,

1649
01:33:33,119 --> 01:33:34,479
that's early predictive programming.

1650
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't I don't necessarily. Hey, I'm as skeptical with

1651
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,880
you as you on all that stuff at this point

1652
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,159
there too, But I wouldn't necessarily say this is about

1653
01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:46,119
all medicine is good. It's just that if you ever

1654
01:33:46,199 --> 01:33:49,359
tasted robitussin, if you ever had any that rank ass

1655
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,479
ship in your mouth, you would love a spoonful of

1656
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,479
sugar at that point to help it go down. But

1657
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,560
I just I just know, I don't know. Maybe I'm

1658
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:58,119
just looking at that.

1659
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,239
Speaker 9: I gotta go with, did you have a robo flip?

1660
01:34:02,119 --> 01:34:02,279
Speaker 12: Oh?

1661
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 3: No, no, But you know what I was. I was working.

1662
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,800
I was working at CVS at that it was one

1663
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,880
of my first jobs on the books. And I was

1664
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,279
working at CVS and I was about fifteen years old,

1665
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,119
and this is when I was told, okay, listen, Frank,

1666
01:34:17,159 --> 01:34:19,800
you got to look out for the robotussin. And you

1667
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,079
got and especially when certain people walked in. There was

1668
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,359
this one, you know, strung out girl that kept coming in.

1669
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,680
It's real sad. I remember it to this day. And

1670
01:34:29,319 --> 01:34:31,479
this was the first time I ever saw a product

1671
01:34:32,079 --> 01:34:35,640
put behind some kind of plastic. And this was back

1672
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,720
in you know, just around two thousand or so, nineteen

1673
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,680
ninety nine. You know, everything's behind sheet glass now and

1674
01:34:43,079 --> 01:34:46,319
locked up for one reason or another. But when I

1675
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:48,760
heard about robo tripping back then, I mean, some of

1676
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,119
the people who were coming in looking for that robotustin,

1677
01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:53,479
they were fucked up. And the other thing that that

1678
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,319
we were told to look out for was people stealing

1679
01:34:58,359 --> 01:35:02,359
baby powder, the talcum, because that's what a lot of

1680
01:35:02,399 --> 01:35:06,199
dealers were cutting their cocaine with. And I you know,

1681
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,600
then then you see all of the all the damn

1682
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:13,600
cancer cluster, all the can all the cancer clustered lawsuits

1683
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,800
that have popped up because of certain talcum powders and

1684
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,039
ship I was like, oh, I wonder how many people

1685
01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:20,159
were sniffing it? You know, they didn't even know it.

1686
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,039
So yeah, yeah, I learned a lot at fifteen.

1687
01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:25,359
Speaker 6: I didn't mean to take it all the way off

1688
01:35:25,359 --> 01:35:27,800
into that, but like you had more of the movies,

1689
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,319
what were the other movies that were on the table content.

1690
01:35:30,199 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: Hary Pompa, Disney Disney's Cruella. I never watched it. I

1691
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,680
never watched it, But I understood what the hell was

1692
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,600
going to go on there. There is this trend. There's

1693
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:43,159
this trend with Disney and other other play other movie

1694
01:35:43,239 --> 01:35:46,880
houses that bring back and want to reimagine certain types

1695
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:52,039
of characters, especially villains, and sympathize with them. So I knew,

1696
01:35:52,279 --> 01:35:54,039
you know, right off the bat, I said, Oh, okay,

1697
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:57,359
so this is a this is a an apologetic for

1698
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,600
Kruella de Ville instead of just painting her as the

1699
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,439
crazed witch that is trying to kill puppies to turn

1700
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:10,319
them into into quotes. Let's see hear Wonder Woman, GMO

1701
01:36:11,039 --> 01:36:15,399
Invitation to Hell Society, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, I

1702
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:21,119
know that one. You want to talk about mass psychosis,

1703
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,479
that is, that's a good one. I mean I often

1704
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,920
think of an invasion of the Body Snatchers. I thought

1705
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,439
about it a lot during twenty twenty.

1706
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:32,239
Speaker 6: I mean talk about well what about they live? I mean,

1707
01:36:32,279 --> 01:36:35,159
that's the ultimate that that's the ultimate truth and plain sight,

1708
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:40,880
you know, conspiratorial like you know Reptilians among Us movie

1709
01:36:41,039 --> 01:36:43,199
that was sort of like kind of round upon by

1710
01:36:43,279 --> 01:36:46,279
the mainstream, and it's like kind of applicable today.

1711
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:50,279
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, I gotta imagine I have I have

1712
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,800
esoteric Hollywood one and two. I have to imagine that

1713
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,159
they live as in one of those, because that's, like

1714
01:36:57,239 --> 01:36:58,920
you said, that is almost like a one oh one

1715
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,880
level class at this point. If you're going to talk

1716
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,359
about movies, movies with a message, that has to be

1717
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,079
like the top five you start with these days. But

1718
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,840
a lot of this stuff with Christopher Nolan was great.

1719
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:14,479
The Prestige Interstellar, uh inception, I like that, I like,

1720
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,920
I liked all the The Batman trilogy was a lot

1721
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,319
of fun. But Watchman is in here.

1722
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 6: So Watchman's got a lot of stuff. It's it's it's

1723
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,800
occulted a lot, and there's a lot of stuff to

1724
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,960
decode out of that one. And they're, hey, what's the

1725
01:37:27,039 --> 01:37:30,119
one nicol about? You know, what's the what's the cartoon

1726
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:32,720
one that talks about adrenochrome a lot in it? It's

1727
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,520
there's the Monsters inc. Monsters Inc. You want to see

1728
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,359
some some seriously creepy ship, watch that one.

1729
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 3: Wait a second, there's adrenochrome in Monsters Inc.

1730
01:37:41,279 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 6: Monsters inc. Is is laced with adrenochrome, uh, Like, all

1731
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,600
over the place. It's it's it's in the background. It's

1732
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,840
everything and it's actually about the process. Sorry, I don't

1733
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,000
want to take your podcast way off, you know, but

1734
01:37:53,159 --> 01:37:55,600
this like those are its that know about that stuff.

1735
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,159
Speaker 3: Watch that one and all right, I'm gonna have to

1736
01:37:58,199 --> 01:37:58,880
go check look.

1737
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 6: Into that rabbit hole. I'll just stay there, but I'm

1738
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,159
gonna get off here. But I just wanted to say hello.

1739
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:04,880
I haven't said hih in a while, and I'll be

1740
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,840
catching up. I love these topics. I would like to

1741
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,920
talk about him, and I hope you're well.

1742
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,359
Speaker 3: Brother, Oh well, I hope you're well. To Lawrence, have

1743
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,960
a good one. Be well. There you go, Larry from Brooklyn.

1744
01:38:15,079 --> 01:38:17,920
It's good to have him on Planet of the Apes

1745
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,840
and the Reboots. There's a lot to say there. There's

1746
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,880
a lot to say with total recall. We already did

1747
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:29,079
a little bit of that. But Black Mirror, Black Mirror,

1748
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,359
I gotta say, Black Mirror is one of Black Mirror

1749
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:36,119
is one of those series that I want to watch more,

1750
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:42,119
but it's just so exhausting. It's so exhausting because it's

1751
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:48,479
you could just read the news. Just read the news, caller,

1752
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:49,319
you're on the air.

1753
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 8: Go ahead, hey, Frankie, what's up?

1754
01:38:52,039 --> 01:38:55,520
Speaker 3: Hello? There a four or five, how you been, I'm doing.

1755
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 8: Great, great to see Jay Dyer on he's a he's

1756
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:03,680
fucking phenomenal, and it's it's it's awesome that you have them.

1757
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:10,760
What I wanted to bring up is when when things

1758
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:17,039
become mundane, like if you're like really in Like I'm

1759
01:39:17,039 --> 01:39:18,640
not gonna say like I'm in on this, I'm not,

1760
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:24,680
but I've I've, I've I've had my experiences. When when

1761
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:29,000
when when this mysterious stuff becomes really mundane and we're

1762
01:39:29,039 --> 01:39:34,600
gonna get to that inflection point. I feel and and

1763
01:39:35,159 --> 01:39:38,880
and and and you're you're you're, you're you're working through it.

1764
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,920
But when you when it, when it goes from questioning two,

1765
01:39:44,039 --> 01:39:47,680
we all fully get it. So one quick one the

1766
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:53,279
challenger thing. I can remember being in grade school, New

1767
01:39:53,359 --> 01:39:58,439
York City and getting called into the auditorium and having

1768
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,720
this this this big moment, this massive moment. They had

1769
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,439
a fucking screen set up for us to watch it,

1770
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,960
and and we all, we all were supposed to feel

1771
01:40:09,159 --> 01:40:14,039
something from it. Flash forward two thousand and one.

1772
01:40:14,199 --> 01:40:17,359
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait they did they bring this? They made

1773
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,039
you watch the rerun knowing how it's going to end,

1774
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:23,279
or you got together and watch the live feed. I

1775
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:23,600
was in.

1776
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,359
Speaker 8: I was in. I was in a first grade through

1777
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:33,279
sixth grade public school. All the grades were brought down.

1778
01:40:33,319 --> 01:40:36,520
Speaker 3: All of them to watch it live. What to watch

1779
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,199
it live? Or after the fact?

1780
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 8: Oh oh no, no no, after the fact. That wait, shit, Frank,

1781
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,119
after the fact, after the fact.

1782
01:40:46,239 --> 01:40:49,119
Speaker 3: Damn they know they So they chose to sit you

1783
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:53,880
all down to watch these people die, yeah, and to and.

1784
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 8: To have like this moment where we all where we

1785
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:04,119
where we all could sort of grieve together. So so

1786
01:41:04,359 --> 01:41:06,800
I mean, this is this is this is a fake

1787
01:41:07,159 --> 01:41:11,199
NASA program. And I emailed you about the the fake

1788
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:15,720
fucking porpoises dancing around the SpaceX fucking capsule which is

1789
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,680
so incredibly fucking ridiculously fake with the woman of their

1790
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,439
hair in the air and then coming out of this tube.

1791
01:41:22,199 --> 01:41:24,960
And it's like, it's like, why are they still doing it?

1792
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,880
You can't figure it out because nobody's paying The kids

1793
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,800
aren't paying attention. But back to what I was talking about.

1794
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:35,960
I was probably fourth grade, third fourth grade. All the

1795
01:41:36,039 --> 01:41:39,119
grades were brought down into our communal lunch room where

1796
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:42,920
we always ate lunch together, and we were shown, if

1797
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,279
I remember correctly, we were shown the fucking the video

1798
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,319
of of of the thing happening and then told about

1799
01:41:50,359 --> 01:41:52,560
it and like and like we were meant to grieve

1800
01:41:53,359 --> 01:41:55,920
together over this national tragedy.

1801
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it could have just been it could

1802
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,359
have just been the the way that your school administrators

1803
01:42:05,239 --> 01:42:09,439
thought would be best to They probably all just thought

1804
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,279
I don't think I don't think that they were given

1805
01:42:12,399 --> 01:42:15,039
instructions from the government to go do that. It's probably

1806
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:18,000
just what they thought was appropriate back then. I don't know,

1807
01:42:18,319 --> 01:42:18,880
it could have just been.

1808
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 8: That's that's an excellent no, and that's excellent point. And

1809
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,000
I wasn't I wasn't going I wasn't saying it was

1810
01:42:24,079 --> 01:42:28,399
the government that was that was doing it. But it's

1811
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:33,880
it's like everything is fucking subtle, like like you don't

1812
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:37,479
need to like tell somebody to do something if you've

1813
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,640
already set this thing in motion and it's just going

1814
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:45,760
to play itself out. Like they said, TV was gonna

1815
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,640
rot your brain. And we're a generation of TV watchers.

1816
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,119
We talked about the kids watching TikTok and their attention

1817
01:42:52,319 --> 01:42:56,399
span and not watching movies. But but when the when

1818
01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:01,079
the when the extraordinary becomes the mundane, and and there

1819
01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:04,319
there really is when you like, this is not or

1820
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:09,600
nothing like. Their big trick is to make everything look organic.

1821
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,479
But it's it's it's not. It's actually really fucking simple. Okay,

1822
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,800
it's just it's just it's just it's just media and

1823
01:43:19,159 --> 01:43:22,880
and and and it's and and and it's like a yeah, yeah,

1824
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:25,640
that's what I got. That's what I got. Three Frankie,

1825
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:26,520
God love you brother.

1826
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,079
Speaker 3: Well, well, thank you, Well hit us. I can working

1827
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:36,520
back from television, whether it be baby boomers going into

1828
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:41,119
even you know gen X, and you know, TV had

1829
01:43:41,159 --> 01:43:43,359
been around for a couple of generations before we started

1830
01:43:43,359 --> 01:43:48,319
getting handheld, before we started getting more mobile, and first

1831
01:43:49,039 --> 01:43:50,800
it was already that way when I was growing up,

1832
01:43:51,039 --> 01:43:54,800
TV will rot your brain. Everybody had, you know, to

1833
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,840
get away from that television. Then all of a sudden,

1834
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:02,720
the gaming consoles started to to really evolve quick and

1835
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,880
it was still easy to manage our time when the

1836
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:11,079
gaming consoles were not connected to the internet. It became

1837
01:44:11,159 --> 01:44:15,199
a lot more addictive once you were you're playing on

1838
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,279
networks against people and all the other shit, and then

1839
01:44:18,319 --> 01:44:22,119
there's less and less reason to leave the house all together.

1840
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:23,920
And then of course you're carrying it in your back pocket.

1841
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,800
So the evolution of the technology to say that television

1842
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:33,720
wasn't rotting people's brains is probably it was. Probably was,

1843
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,680
It's just it was just a little bit more of

1844
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,720
a primitive a primitive version of what we have going

1845
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:44,920
on right now. And everybody is having all of their

1846
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:51,399
small peaceful moments sucked away to the badges and the

1847
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:55,079
ring tones and everything else that's calling you back to

1848
01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:58,640
the portal in your palm. So it probably where things

1849
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,000
all started, and it was a lot easier to manage,

1850
01:45:01,079 --> 01:45:04,319
no doubt about it. But yeah, I can see so

1851
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:06,439
I can see that. And then and then there's the

1852
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,600
other thing there too, Like we look at CNN's Gulf

1853
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:15,800
War coverage. Look, we look at CNN's Gulf War coverage

1854
01:45:16,039 --> 01:45:18,439
and laugh at it now and say, how the hell

1855
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,159
did anybody think that this was real? How the hell

1856
01:45:22,199 --> 01:45:25,560
did anybody think that that CGI in this movie look good?

1857
01:45:26,239 --> 01:45:29,279
Why the hell weren't we all laughing our asses off

1858
01:45:29,359 --> 01:45:32,760
when Mortal Kombat two came out and we didn't realize

1859
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:34,680
how bad really? I mean, I think some of us

1860
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:36,920
thought it was, oh, actually, that's really pretty fucking bad,

1861
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,039
and then a couple of then just a couple of

1862
01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:44,720
years later it just aged so poorly. I mean, so

1863
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,960
the real thing there is that, yeah, these productions hindsight

1864
01:45:49,079 --> 01:45:51,600
is twenty twenty you look back and said, wow, really

1865
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:56,039
screwing with us. But at the time it was politically

1866
01:45:56,119 --> 01:45:59,239
expedient and you had everybody watching one source of it.

1867
01:46:01,159 --> 01:46:03,560
So there's still a lot of trust, a lot of

1868
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,680
trust left over from past generations. There's a lot of

1869
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,079
trust there. It was trust alone is what got people

1870
01:46:10,399 --> 01:46:13,039
to the most people, for a critical mass of people

1871
01:46:13,079 --> 01:46:16,000
in the United States to accept that Oswald killed JFK.

1872
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,680
It was just trust. I listened to a lot of

1873
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Coast to Coast classics now with Art Bell, I have

1874
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:30,199
since about twenty twenty one, and you know whatever, it's

1875
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:32,199
late at night. I want something to listen to. Like,

1876
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:36,199
there's so many places out there that host old episodes,

1877
01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:37,800
and I don't care what the hell the topic is.

1878
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,680
I just want to listen to some kind of conversation

1879
01:46:41,039 --> 01:46:43,640
A guy taking calls from people in nineteen ninety six,

1880
01:46:44,199 --> 01:46:47,920
in nineteen ninety seven just to listen to, just to

1881
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:51,680
listen to how people were thinking about things. I was

1882
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:55,640
listening to an episode that was just an open lines

1883
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,880
kind of a night in nineteen ninety six, just last night,

1884
01:47:00,119 --> 01:47:05,960
and and Art refused to believe, refused to believe that

1885
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:10,600
the government had anything to do with and were willingly

1886
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:15,279
suppressing what happened with TWA eight hundred. Refused to believe.

1887
01:47:16,079 --> 01:47:19,720
And he just couldn't take himself there. He also never

1888
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,439
I mean, I mean, there's just so you want to

1889
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:25,560
talk about trust and what the authorities are saying. It's

1890
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,880
really it's like a time capsule there. And that's all people,

1891
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:32,199
that's all the Kennedy. Those are people who were alive

1892
01:47:32,319 --> 01:47:35,960
and very much conscious when Kennedy was shot. And Dan

1893
01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:40,000
rather calmed them all down, Walter Cronkit calmed them all down,

1894
01:47:40,159 --> 01:47:43,199
gave them the gave them the four to one one,

1895
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:48,000
and it was all bullshit. It's all bullshit. But we

1896
01:47:48,079 --> 01:47:50,680
only had one channel, a couple of channels to tune

1897
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,239
into and one device. You walk away from that device,

1898
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,199
suddenly you're in real life again. You can't walk away

1899
01:47:57,239 --> 01:48:01,279
from them so easily anymore. And and that's not to

1900
01:48:01,319 --> 01:48:03,319
say that everything that was on the television was bullshit.

1901
01:48:03,359 --> 01:48:07,960
There's just I love watching old old TV shows and

1902
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,880
we often do that on Sunday nights. When Aurora is

1903
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,960
still awake. Ed Sullivan reruns are on constantly. I love

1904
01:48:16,039 --> 01:48:18,920
stuff like that, man, I really do. All right, real quick,

1905
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we gotta take one last break. When we come back,

1906
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,600
some more of your calls. We'll take it right to

1907
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,600
the top. Thirteen minutes left, but don't go anywhere. Quite frankly,

1908
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:30,439
you know, contributed to the death of seven million people

1909
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,960
because the funding of gain of function experiments in the

1910
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Wuhan lamb.

1911
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Speaker 9: What's the matter?

1912
01:48:38,079 --> 01:48:42,119
Speaker 16: Why there are no olives here? There are no olives here?

1913
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:57,079
Bring out the olives, Sally.

1914
01:49:00,079 --> 01:49:04,399
Speaker 5: Sally, I don't have anything, Sally, I don't have anything.

1915
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Speaker 18: You've probably seen the new collab between Rise and bad

1916
01:49:07,359 --> 01:49:09,960
Lands Media, But I'll tell you what you haven't seen yet,

1917
01:49:10,319 --> 01:49:13,199
the end of clown World as we know it. But

1918
01:49:13,359 --> 01:49:17,199
have no fear introducing the latest addition to the bad

1919
01:49:17,279 --> 01:49:21,039
Lands I NTL lineup, the sequel to the best selling

1920
01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:25,039
PSI War series. We've been conditioned by these clowns to

1921
01:49:25,159 --> 01:49:29,720
accept their circus, but it's time to unwind that.

1922
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,199
Speaker 3: And strike them out the history books.

1923
01:49:35,079 --> 01:49:36,239
Speaker 11: The future belongs to.

1924
01:49:36,279 --> 01:49:39,239
Speaker 3: The real and we've got it in droves.

1925
01:49:41,039 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 18: Go to bad Landsmedia, dot TV, slash rise for the

1926
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,279
full line of premium and direct a garment.

1927
01:49:47,079 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 3: Street wear.

1928
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 15: Made to order right here in the good old us

1929
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:57,439
of A. The heart of the resistance. The fall of

1930
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:02,479
clown world is upon us, patriots. Let's make it official.

1931
01:50:05,399 --> 01:50:08,600
Speaker 3: I just were able to mimic NeSSI Imun's voice by

1932
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:12,239
recreating his mouth and vocal chords with a three D printer.

1933
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,359
It allowed them to produce a single sound.

1934
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Speaker 5: All right, Oh no, we're going to have to take

1935
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:31,359
this call right here.

1936
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 3: Hold on one second, and welcome to the show. Jeremy Reese.

1937
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:38,199
I wonder what triggered you to call in tonight? Is

1938
01:50:38,239 --> 01:50:42,680
it the uh? Is it the media? The media centralization

1939
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,119
of all messages that of course led to JFK talk

1940
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and everything else.

1941
01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:51,560
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I mean I saw that you guys were alive.

1942
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:54,640
I kind of just tuned in, So I haven't what

1943
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,960
have you guys covered so far? Top ten Cia offs.

1944
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:01,159
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we did top ten ci A. Jay Dyer

1945
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:03,000
brought that to the table. We did a little bit

1946
01:51:03,039 --> 01:51:05,680
out of that, and then we we we blended that

1947
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:10,760
into esoteric and uh, you know, messaging, cultural messaging that

1948
01:51:11,039 --> 01:51:15,119
through that is delivered through Hollywood. Because he's just he's

1949
01:51:15,199 --> 01:51:19,239
just completed writing his Esoteric Hollywood Part three, a series

1950
01:51:19,279 --> 01:51:21,319
of now a trilogy of books on that. So we

1951
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:25,640
kind of just brought intelligence into the culture and how

1952
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:29,199
all that influence meshed together. And of course, with ten

1953
01:51:29,239 --> 01:51:30,960
minutes left, here you are, so i'd love to give

1954
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:31,600
you a few of them.

1955
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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I'm here.

1956
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:43,159
Speaker 3: Well, well, welcome, welcome aboard. What would you say? Is

1957
01:51:43,239 --> 01:51:46,119
there any movies out there? I guess we'll just stick

1958
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:48,439
to the topic at hand. Are there any movies out

1959
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,880
there that you could really point to that, especially from

1960
01:51:52,079 --> 01:51:57,239
a high technology or even a UFO alien standpoint, that

1961
01:51:58,039 --> 01:52:00,760
you always talk about that that's serve was one purpose

1962
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:06,279
or another that you know was a complete op From

1963
01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:08,279
a movie standpoint, Is there any of them?

1964
01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 17: I mean a lot of the ones that have been

1965
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,760
released in the in the last two years. I mean,

1966
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,479
I mean a lot of the like small like documentaries

1967
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,880
out there, but the Hollywood movies let me see that. Uh,

1968
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:24,840
I don't know, but I added on the jam. Let

1969
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:26,319
me get back to that. I want to say. I

1970
01:52:26,359 --> 01:52:27,800
want to just want to throw in something about the

1971
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,600
jfk assassination. Yeah, one of the women is that befriended

1972
01:52:32,039 --> 01:52:36,520
Marina Oswald, Lee's wife, There was a woman named Priscilla McMillan,

1973
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,920
and she she helped translate and write her autobiography supposedly,

1974
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,680
and then it turns out that she was the CIA

1975
01:52:45,319 --> 01:52:49,239
uh consenting operative, you know, like she she was like

1976
01:52:49,359 --> 01:52:52,319
an knowledgeable like operative.

1977
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:52,520
Speaker 19: For the CIA.

1978
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 17: And there's documentation that she was paid for like almost

1979
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,039
all her work, and that came out in the files.

1980
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:03,239
So this is the way that they've infiltrated all kinds

1981
01:53:03,279 --> 01:53:06,159
of media and culture so that when people go to

1982
01:53:06,239 --> 01:53:07,920
the literature and they say, oh, well, this is what

1983
01:53:08,119 --> 01:53:10,079
you know that this is the profile that they have

1984
01:53:10,239 --> 01:53:11,800
of Lee, and this is what we were told who

1985
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,800
Lee Harvey Oswald was. And and so they they've really

1986
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:17,960
i mean they've hit the files on Lee Harvey Oswald

1987
01:53:18,119 --> 01:53:22,079
for until twenty thirty nine, is when they originally wanted

1988
01:53:22,119 --> 01:53:27,399
to keep them all classified untill and you know now

1989
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,640
that it's a lot of this is coming out, there's

1990
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:31,720
a lot of that. But I mean I remember a

1991
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,319
lot of films that were pro conspiracy, like throwing stuff

1992
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:38,760
this stuff in growing up. I don't remember The Rock

1993
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:43,359
where the Sean Connery where in the end, I think

1994
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,239
Kevin Costner's character is like looking through the stuff that

1995
01:53:46,319 --> 01:53:48,039
he gets from this the spy guy.

1996
01:53:49,199 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 3: La, do you want to know who Nicholas was?

1997
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:53,239
Speaker 9: Nicholas Cage.

1998
01:53:53,319 --> 01:53:55,119
Speaker 17: Yeah, He's like, do you want to know who killed Kennedy?

1999
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2000
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was Nicholas Cage.

2001
01:53:57,079 --> 01:54:01,399
Speaker 3: There was old and there's negatives of like eight millimeter

2002
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,680
film that was hidden inside of a pew at a

2003
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:10,159
random church somewhere in the country. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Wow, Yeah,

2004
01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:11,800
I remember that right at the end.

2005
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 17: Clever dead drop. But yeah, it would be something like

2006
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,520
that where there's a dead drop location that that there's

2007
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,720
something in. But you know, a lot of the key

2008
01:54:22,119 --> 01:54:26,880
films from Daley Plaza were like destroyed or just confiscated.

2009
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:32,119
It never surfaced, like I think Beverly Oliver was recording,

2010
01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:38,119
and also Gordon Arnold said, like the Secrets, a guy

2011
01:54:38,239 --> 01:54:42,920
identifying themselves as Secret Service took their film and never never, never,

2012
01:54:43,159 --> 01:54:45,800
they never saw it again, never heard of it again.

2013
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 3: I think it was like two or three weeks ago,

2014
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:51,479
probably about three weeks ago whenever, whenever the hell it

2015
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,199
was is after the first full week of of those

2016
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,800
those JFK files came out, we were talking about that

2017
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,760
at the end towards the end of the week, my

2018
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,000
buddy Jay was in here and we were he brought

2019
01:55:04,119 --> 01:55:07,840
up Beverly Oliver and he brought up the confiscated How

2020
01:55:08,319 --> 01:55:10,159
this is something that he would really love to see,

2021
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:14,399
is a release of all the confiscated film that was

2022
01:55:14,479 --> 01:55:17,680
Obviously there's no trace, there's not there, no mention of it.

2023
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:22,439
So you know that all went into an incinerator somewhere because.

2024
01:55:22,439 --> 01:55:25,239
Speaker 17: Yeah, they had the clearest photography of the knoll and

2025
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:29,600
the assassination from the perspective of the knoll at that

2026
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:31,680
close of an angle. So yeah, it was course that

2027
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:35,319
they went and rounded up that the evidence right away

2028
01:55:35,359 --> 01:55:38,439
and had it destroyed. But what's crazy is is that

2029
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,800
Beverly Oliver's shoes. Have you ever heard of her shoes?

2030
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,479
She was standing right on the curb and if you

2031
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,600
look in the Zuppruter film where you can see her standing,

2032
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,199
she's like closest to the curb on the other side

2033
01:55:49,239 --> 01:55:52,159
of the assassination, like closest to the president when when

2034
01:55:52,199 --> 01:55:54,840
the headshot actually takes place, So she would have got

2035
01:55:55,039 --> 01:55:58,640
all that on film. And she has her shoes have

2036
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,199
this yellow paint on the bottom of them. You can

2037
01:56:01,319 --> 01:56:04,960
notice that the curb is just that curb is painted yellow,

2038
01:56:05,359 --> 01:56:07,720
and you go through like it's very hard to find

2039
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:11,319
like color photographs of that ankle, the assassination and Indi

2040
01:56:11,399 --> 01:56:14,439
Lee Plaza. But somebody came the night before and painted

2041
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:19,000
three of the curbs, just three of the curb markers

2042
01:56:19,319 --> 01:56:23,880
yellow with yellow marker paint. It was fresh, so and

2043
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:28,439
those were right coordinated with where the shots, you know, happened.

2044
01:56:29,399 --> 01:56:32,279
So it's like it's like a timing mechanism. They didn't

2045
01:56:32,319 --> 01:56:35,000
have to announce the timing over shooting, you know, it's

2046
01:56:35,079 --> 01:56:38,800
like you know, announce it over a radio or anything.

2047
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,520
So it's just right there in the plaza, which has

2048
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,680
always been strange to me. If it was an assassination

2049
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,199
by a lone nut and Oswald was in that window,

2050
01:56:48,039 --> 01:56:49,920
he would have shot the president when they were coming

2051
01:56:50,039 --> 01:56:53,520
right down Houston Street. That's that's the shot. I mean,

2052
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,159
he's coming straight towards you. There's no escape but to

2053
01:56:57,239 --> 01:56:59,520
wait until he takes the turn onto Elm Street and

2054
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,800
gets into at ambush zone, which is is just a

2055
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:04,720
clear sniper shop. From the grassy knoll behind that white

2056
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:07,479
picket fence, that's clearly where they took them out from

2057
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,199
and then they could they had to see your cars.

2058
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,720
Nick could have had a compartment in any one of

2059
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,239
those vehicles just to stash a rifle real quick and

2060
01:57:16,479 --> 01:57:20,239
then just identify themselves as Secret Service agents. And nothing

2061
01:57:20,359 --> 01:57:21,239
happened in this area.

2062
01:57:21,279 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 19: And you know, like, yeah, it would it would have

2063
01:57:25,039 --> 01:57:26,920
been it would have been a cinch to to just

2064
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:31,079
to just have a second gunman or at least even

2065
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:33,000
a third gunman there on the knoll.

2066
01:57:33,199 --> 01:57:35,279
Speaker 17: And I don't know about all the other gunmen in

2067
01:57:35,319 --> 01:57:37,479
the assassination. The other people say there might have been

2068
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:41,479
one on the other corner of the of the text. Well, yeah,

2069
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:45,640
depository building. But again, the mechanics don't matter. What matters

2070
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,319
is that the CIA has them power in the media

2071
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,159
and Hollywood and everything else to be able to cover

2072
01:57:51,319 --> 01:57:54,760
this up for decades and decades and decades.

2073
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,439
Speaker 9: It's just to show you that again.

2074
01:57:58,279 --> 01:58:01,399
Speaker 3: Again again though, Jeremy, what I was saying before you

2075
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,039
came on is that I think it really goes to

2076
01:58:04,079 --> 01:58:06,840
show that what you needed back then more than anything

2077
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,359
was trust. Uh, And there's a lot of trust that

2078
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:15,319
the public had in in the media still at that time.

2079
01:58:15,479 --> 01:58:17,640
And of course, like you said, and who was running

2080
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,560
the media and who was running this operation. It's a

2081
01:58:21,199 --> 01:58:23,720
it's a it's good. It's a it's a really good analysis.

2082
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 8: There.

2083
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 3: I have to get off right now though, because I'm

2084
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:27,720
up against the clock. I'd love to. We got to

2085
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,199
get you on again, just to do I love your

2086
01:58:30,279 --> 01:58:32,920
random stoppings, they're always illuminating, but we got to do

2087
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:34,319
something efficiently after the show.

2088
01:58:34,479 --> 01:58:36,359
Speaker 17: I'm gonna text you and let's let's let's think up.

2089
01:58:36,359 --> 01:58:39,399
We'll do uh, we'll do a show soon, man, Thank you. Awesome, awesome.

2090
01:58:39,399 --> 01:58:41,560
I'm gonna go back and listen to this. Uh this

2091
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:42,680
Jay Dyer guy.

2092
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 3: You got it. I think I think you like him

2093
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:45,399
a lot. We'll talk soon.

2094
01:58:46,439 --> 01:58:47,439
Speaker 9: All right, there you go.

2095
01:58:48,279 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 3: That's the alien scientist Jeremy Reese. So that'll be fun.

2096
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,239
We'd love to get Jeremy back on sometime soon. Well, listen,

2097
01:58:54,279 --> 01:58:57,039
it's eight fifty seven. I really appreciate you guys. Today

2098
01:58:57,279 --> 01:59:01,159
is Thursday, Tomorrow is Friday. I got this email about

2099
01:59:01,239 --> 01:59:02,920
last night. I'm not gonna be able to do right

2100
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,119
now because we only got two minutes left, but I'll

2101
01:59:05,159 --> 01:59:07,520
save it for tomorrow and it'll be good because in

2102
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:09,680
the first half we'll have comedian Mike bald went on

2103
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,560
to do some weird news and eventually I want to

2104
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,479
take your calls. We'll have some other fun there too.

2105
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,600
Paul on quite Frankly superchat dot com says, Hey, Frankie,

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remember the old story about the Raelian cult and the

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first clone human? H I remember talking about the Rallians.

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I will check that out. You know what, Paul, do

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me a favor. Email me that link so I don't

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lose it. Email me that link. Frank at quite Frankly

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dot tv. There's a couple more super chats here real quick. Hey,

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would you blow me? Says I hate that. I love you?

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No quomo quoto good, don't pussy. Spud Hill says, cheers

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appreciate you, brother, Well, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 11: I really do.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And we've got a wonderful group

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of people hanging out with us over there on bad

2118
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Lands as well. Mima Hunter says, Frank loves seeing you

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expanding onto bad Lands. I love being here. Well, got

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a lot of great friends here. There's a really wonderful,

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robust schedule of people, and I'm happy to have Thursday

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syndicated by them. Kid Billy seven, He says, glad to

2123
02:00:10,039 --> 02:00:11,840
see you here on bad Lands. That's how I found

2124
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your podcast, and I'm so happy that you joined. John

2125
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and crew, keep on keeping on. I can't wait to

2126
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have John on the show. He's been really wonderful to us.

2127
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Camcooksie says, I feel like the interview. I feel like

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the interview. The interview was an op that Trump used

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his advantage in the first term. The interview you're talking about,

2130
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Wait a second, the movie the interview is that the

2131
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North Korean one? Are we with? That really is hold

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on to email the show and jog my memory on that, Camcookxie,

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so I can have that into I can add that

2134
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into my notes for the next time. All right, real

2135
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quick over on quite frankly dot TV. Let me just

2136
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make sure I say everybody there and we are outye,

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because I think what's coming up next on on bad

2138
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Land sit rep and then there's there's a lot of

2139
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great stuff going on quite frankly dot TV as well.

2140
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Thank you Robert Sarnes, Seve Blanche, Doug Simmy, neo, so

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what's up there, girlfriend? And on Sir sys, great show, Frank,

2142
02:01:17,439 --> 02:01:20,840
thank you Doug Simmy throwing the shades down there coffee

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talk with Sandras. It's happy Thursday. Same to you, Sandra,

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good girl out there, Sandra one two three s KG

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says the Wizard of Oz, which was scary to me.

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Oh the witch was scary to you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Who Then Margaret Hamilton, it's actually one of the nicest

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women on the plate on the face of the planet.

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If you read into her, she's one of the kindest

2151
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people ever that ever lived. But I'm sure she scared

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a lot of kids when they were they were little.

2153
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And Sean Joe, thank you so much. Well, that's it

2154
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for me. It's nine o'clock, seven o'clock tomorrow and that

2155
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is the end of the official work week. Then, of course,

2156
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the unofficial work week continues on Saturday night, as we're

2157
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going to be doing a rumble only call in show

2158
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starting around nine pm. We are going to be doing

2159
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a it's probably gonna it's pretty much just gonna be

2160
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a night that we're opening up the Crazy Story hotline.

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If you've got a crazy story to tell, think about

2162
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it from now, write it down you call in on

2163
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Saturday night. I don't know. We might only be live

2164
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for an hour. It's just a test see how things

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go and uh and yes, thank you for everything, my friends,

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Thank you Jay Dyer, thank you to all the callers,

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and I will talk to you soon. All right, good night,

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I'll ktch you on the flip side.

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Speaker 13: White Brickley is film before a live studio audience, and

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now our super Chatter is starting with Paul and Jay Britz.

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And thank you to all of our Rumble ranters across Rumble.

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You're fantastic again. Thank you to the wonderful people at

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bad Lands. We're really loving it over here on Thursday nights.

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And yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: I'm releasing the Scratch and everybody, enjoy yourself, clean your grasses,

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keep your ass clean.

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Speaker 6: For you.

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Speaker 5: Will you shut up now,