WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:04.759 Care. Yes, remember when we thought that enlightenment just meant 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.080 drinking green juice and meditating until your leg fell asleep. 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:12.480 Well, I mean I kind of didn't think that, but yes, yes. 4 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:13.679 Right, I thought ever already thought that. 5 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:14.000 Right. 6 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:17.559 Well, it turns out that we were thinking way too small. 7 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.559 Today's guest doesn't just talk about raising consciousness. She changes 8 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:26.600 people at the cellular level. Ooh ah, we're talking about 9 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:32.200 someone who can literally transform living organisms at the cellular. 10 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:33.600 Level, so your leg won't fall asleep. 11 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:36.600 I hadn't thought about that. That's a good point. I 12 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:39.479 got to ask for it. But she also transforms non 13 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.960 living materials at the atomic level. Oh yeah, I'm talking 14 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.920 like I just changed the structure of matter with my 15 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.799 mind kind of stuff. Wow, interesting stuff, right. She's been 16 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:52.280 studied more than your browser history with a lot less judgment. 17 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:59.719 Boy, with over six hundred and sixty peer reviewed studies 18 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:05.359 that show her divine blessings can spark real changes in health, happiness, and. 19 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:08.159 Even blood chemistry. Oh, get ready for the conversation that 20 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:11.799 might just flip your understanding of consciousness and your mitochondria 21 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.840 on its blissful little head. So if you ever wondered 22 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.359 what happens when you mix quantum mechanics, a spiritual master 23 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:20.760 and a lab coat. Will get ready because this might 24 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:26.840 be the first episode where listening could accidentally evolve. Oh DNA, 25 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.120 let's go meet that woman who's turning in skeptics to 26 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:31.959 spreadsheets and blowing the minds of scientists and souls are 27 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.560 like one atom at a time. This is a Skeptic Metaphysicians. 28 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:40.359 My name is Will, and I'mars, And unlike Boulder and Scully. 29 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:40.959 Both want to believe. 30 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:43.000 So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. 31 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.599 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and 32 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:46.519 metaphysical world. 33 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.840 We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even 34 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:51.280 joined a coven of witches. 35 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.799 And wait, you joined a coven yep. 36 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.560 All on the interest of finding something, anything that will 37 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.000 prove that there's something beyond this physical. 38 00:01:58.680 --> 00:01:59.640 Three dimensional world. 39 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:15.800 We all this is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey there, I'm Will. 40 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:22.599 Welcome back to another cellular, moving, transformational episode of the 41 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:27.800 Skeptic Metaphysicians. Who today's guest is Darren Trevetti, an enlightened 42 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:34.439 master and internationally recognized spiritual leader who brings together science, consciousness, 43 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.000 and the divine in a way the view ever have 44 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.879 I didn't have enough hands not to use the hope not. 45 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.360 I should have checked that before I did that. Anyway, 46 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:48.199 she serves as a guide and force a Divine Connection International, 47 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.520 a nonprofit on a mission to improve the human condition 48 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:56.599 through scientifically validated divine blessings. Is this right up my alley? 49 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:56.759 Or what? 50 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:01.800 Alongside her husband and Guru Grugie Mahindra Trevetti And I 51 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.039 know I just butchered that name, and I'm so sorry. 52 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:09.039 She's spearheaded over six thousand scientific experiments, resulting in more 53 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:13.199 than six hundred and seventy peer reviewed publications, recognized by 54 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:17.520 top institutions like Harvard, MIT and Oxford. 55 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:18.159 Wow. 56 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.960 Now, Darren's powerful divine blessings have reportedly helped thousands of 57 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:26.039 people optimize their lives, improve well being, and reach new 58 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.560 levels of joy and purpose. And whether she's speaking at 59 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:33.319 Nasdaq or being featured on major media platforms, she brings 60 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:37.080 irradiant clarity, humor, and a multi dimensional view of human 61 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.919 potential defies categorization. No more talking. Welcome to the show, 62 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:42.560 Darren Trevetti. How are you doing. 63 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:47.360 Today, I'm doing wonderful. It's hard to follow that introduction. 64 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:51.479 Is excited about being optimized. 65 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.319 We've got a lot to unpack in what you do. 66 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:01.919 But let's set the table first and foremost. Consciousness. That 67 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:05.039 word has been thrown around like cotton candy all over 68 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.400 the place these days. Right, Can you help us to 69 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:11.080 wrap our heads around so we can set the conversation 70 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.680 on the right path. What is consciousness? Exactly? 71 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.360 Absolutely? Well? A lot of spiritual leaders and a lot 72 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.800 of transformational leaders these days. You have like people like 73 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:25.839 Deepak Chopper and everybody who's talking about consciousness as a 74 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:31.000 fundamental reality of existence. And it's discussed in a way 75 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:35.920 that scientists, for example, believe consciousness is a byproduct of 76 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.920 the brain. Right, and then you have this spiritual side, 77 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.160 you know, that involves these transformational leaders and spiritual gurus 78 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.879 and everybody who suggests that consciousness is actually you know, 79 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.680 supersedes the mind, supersedes the brain. It's something by which 80 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:54.000 everything else is derived from. Right. So it's that you 81 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.839 could say that transcendental reality that all of us are 82 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:01.160 a part of. Right. It encompasses everything, it pervades everything, 83 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.560 it's a part of everything. And at the same time 84 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:07.480 it controls and governs everything. Now, unfortunately, there's been a 85 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.240 lot of talk about consciousness. There's been a lot of 86 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.439 theory and philosophy, but there hasn't been a lot of 87 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.839 proof regarding it. Right, That's why it's still very theoretical. 88 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.959 You have Max Plank, you know, quantum physicists who's like 89 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.680 the father of quantum physics, who said that, you know, 90 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:26.600 he considers consciousness as fundamental, right, and then the mind 91 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.360 and everything is derived from that plane of existence. So 92 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.360 for the first time, that's what we're doing, is we're 93 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:37.319 taking consciousness and we're putting it into a laboratory. We're 94 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:42.360 actually measuring it objectively through real data for the first time, 95 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.360 i'd say, and not just like you know those quantum 96 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:48.560 experiments where it's about you know, observing, and we're actually 97 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:53.279 doing hardcore objective data where we're measuring things like materials, 98 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:57.319 we're measuring agriculture, we're measuring you know, human parameters like 99 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:02.040 neurotransmitters and hormones. We're taking it clinically, right, We've actually 100 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.079 taken something that has been so hard to pin down 101 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:07.720 and measure for so long. And I'd say, for the 102 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:10.959 first time we're able to objectively pin it down and 103 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.759 show that it's actually something that has the power to 104 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.720 change our lives and the source of our lives itself. 105 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.839 Okay, this is exciting r How yeah, this is exciting, 106 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.879 right because you're talking my language in such a major way. 107 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:27.240 But every conversation that talks about science and metaphysics together 108 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:31.879 woefully fall short because science, right that the whole thing 109 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:34.519 about science is is you need to be able to 110 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.839 get measurable results in a repeated fashion, right, you have 111 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.879 to be able to repeat it. So metaphysics, that's a 112 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.879 tough n to crack, right, It's hard to measure something. 113 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:50.839 Measurable and repeatable results is what you have to get 114 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:54.279 for science. So how are is it that you are 115 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:59.920 taking this concept, which is consciousness is a metaphysical concept, right, 116 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.240 even though it is the underlying we believe, the underlying 117 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:08.680 thing of everything. So how can science measure and repeat 118 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:14.680 the results that gives you such a positive affirmation that yes, 119 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:16.439 this is legit? 120 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:18.759 Or like I said, how. 121 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.560 So when we're talking about consciousness, right, for so long 122 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:28.680 it's been limited to subjective experience, right, which is why 123 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.680 you know, science dismisses it because subjective experience. Right, that's 124 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.959 in the realm of psychology and placebo. Right. So we 125 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.879 have a lot of testimonials even you know, our organization 126 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.959 has a huge, vast number of testimonials from people claiming 127 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:47.000 extraordinary outcomes. But what we're actually doing, right, So we're 128 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:51.240 taking the power of consciousness. But what we see consciousness does, 129 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:55.240 if we understand it as like that fundamental reality, right, 130 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:57.000 we can also see it as kind of like a 131 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:01.759 force that program's existence into being. Right. So it controls 132 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.680 and operates your mind, It controls and operates your life. 133 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:08.040 It tells you know what a material will become, the 134 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.920 destiny of an atom, the destiny of a molecule, and 135 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:13.680 of a cell. Right, you even get to like the 136 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:17.720 cellular composition of our bodies right as newborns or even 137 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.360 before then, Right, every cell is the same. But somehow 138 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.160 there's a destiny that programs a cell and tells what 139 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.120 a cell will evolve and become and turn into. Right, 140 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:29.879 And that's something that science doesn't know. What tells the 141 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:33.360 cell what it will eventually become, But somehow the cell 142 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.600 has that inherent knowledge. It's similarly we see that in 143 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:40.200 materials right, where we see certain materials. Right. That's the 144 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.559 whole periodic table of elements is that materials have a 145 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.919 very specific set of you know, characteristics and behaviors, and 146 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:51.080 that is programmed in the atom itself and the composition 147 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:55.039 of those molecular structures. And that is not something science 148 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:58.120 has not found a way to change the atom. Right. 149 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.639 Science has found with a huge amount of energy, we 150 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.480 can destroy the atom. We can create atomic bombs, we 151 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:08.360 can create huge amount of you know, cataclysmic events when 152 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:10.559 we destroy when we apply huge amount of power. But 153 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:14.200 nothing has been able to change or transform an atom 154 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:16.559 and make it something different than what it already is. 155 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.960 So in order to change something that's already existing, right, 156 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.200 you change the programming of that thing. Then that thing 157 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.799 changes its character and behavior, it changes its potential. When 158 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:32.399 we're talking about human life, when we're looking at you know, 159 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:35.039 changing things at the level of consciousness, what do we 160 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:38.879 see for human life? We see mental clarity, we see peace, 161 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.320 we see better quality health, we see better relationships. Right, 162 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.159 we see all these things are ripple effects of when 163 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:49.240 you alter things at the consciousness level, that programming that 164 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:52.200 controls your life. Right, And then when you see things 165 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.679 at the level of agriculture, for example, you see greater vitality, 166 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.879 you see greater production, you see more yield, more immunity, 167 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.919 you see more shelf life without the use of any 168 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:06.879 of the conventional methods used to you know, produce these things, right, 169 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:11.840 without any wet side fungicide, chemical, fertilizer, any chemicals whatsoever. 170 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.720 Just literally soil, water, air in the sun and then 171 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.039 this divine energy that can change the consciousness. When you 172 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:23.000 see atoms, right, you see the molecular structure change, the 173 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.519 crystallized size change. You can make the atom bigger, you 174 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.120 can make it smaller. All of these are measurable. Right, 175 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.600 we have all the instruments used by NASA to measure 176 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.840 these changes in these materials, and we're able to actually 177 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:35.399 see and measure these changes. 178 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:37.600 Okay, that's super cool. 179 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:41.080 So you can and I might have misunderstood, but you 180 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:45.240 can measure, you can see and quantify the changes the results, yes, 181 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.840 but not necessarily what's making the changes? 182 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:52.200 Well, you make certain assumptions right that the said you put. 183 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:55.879 I guess we're going to talk about how these experiments 184 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:59.600 went in, Like what was the process that forced these 185 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:02.799 things to change? Because in the introduction we talked about 186 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.720 the fact that you can change things at the atomic level, 187 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:10.159 non living things, and then organic things at the cellular level. 188 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:15.120 So is it just like thinking good thoughts at it? 189 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.799 It's a little more complicated than that. If everybody thoughts, 190 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.320 you know, we could probably do all these things about Oh, 191 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:22.159 wouldn't that be great? 192 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:27.320 Right, Karen, I'm sorry those plants that that didn't make it. Yeah, 193 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.879 I had nothing to do with your good thoughts, I 194 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:32.360 promise anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead. 195 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:33.960 So sure you had the best intention. 196 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:40.440 He always does. Okay, So then how is it that 197 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:43.759 you are able to affect change in these things? 198 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:47.159 So this is where we go into the realm of 199 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:53.200 enlightenment that concept. Okay, So enlightenment in a scientific you know, 200 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:58.840 kind of realm. We're referring to enlightenment as consciousness that 201 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:03.799 has to the consciousness of nature. So nature itself has 202 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.279 all these natural laws, right, that are kind of binding. Right, 203 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:10.320 you see that you cannot bypass these natural laws. And 204 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:12.200 some of those natural laws are like you know, the 205 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:15.080 laws of gravity, for example, or the laws like you know, 206 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.679 energy flows from a higher dimension to a lower dimension, right, 207 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:21.240 the laws of physics. These are all the laws of nature. 208 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:24.879 We could say, right, there's a strict set of parameters, 209 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.679 and you can't really go outside of those parameters. 210 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:28.039 Right. 211 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.960 You have a certain for example, body temperature. Right, if 212 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.960 your body goes below that temperature. Above that temperature, you 213 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.480 enter into a comma. You could die. Right. There are 214 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.320 many complications when that arises. So nature keeps things in 215 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.039 order to maintain right, that existence. It keeps things very 216 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:49.759 strict and regulated. Now, that's the consciousness of nature, right, 217 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:55.039 that's the programming of nature itself. Enlightenment is when consciousness 218 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:58.080 of a human, for example, an individual is able to 219 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:01.159 transcend beyond the laws of natsnature. And that's when we 220 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.639 go into the realm of the divine. Right, because what 221 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:06.399 is beyond the laws of nature? What program the laws 222 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.159 of nature? That's where we go into the realm of 223 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.759 perhaps the creator, a divine force, a divine authority on 224 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:16.600 this planet. So enlightened consciousness. You can see the effects 225 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.799 of enlightened consciousness. When someone's reached that level, then through 226 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:24.279 their intention. That's when intention applies through their intention, through 227 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.559 their you know, desire, we can say, because they are 228 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:31.919 connected to that, you know, consciousness of the divine, then 229 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.559 their intention we just call it prayer. Right. So in 230 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.320 this regard, when we're doing these experiments, what we're doing 231 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:42.879 is we're praying over whatever we want, you know, the 232 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:46.960 consciousness to raise. So if for praying over a particular person, 233 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:51.159 we're requesting that God, this authority that has the ability 234 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.759 to change the laws of nature that created nature, so 235 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:57.480 can change it. We're requesting that God, you know, uplifts, 236 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.559 raises the consciousness of the recipient, and as a result 237 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.039 of raising that consciousness, that recipient has more of the 238 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.399 grace of God in their life. That recipient is able 239 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.440 to utilize this higher level of consciousness and live a 240 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.080 life of greater vitality, of greater wellness of you, all 241 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.840 these things that you see what happened when you change consciousness. 242 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:22.159 So we call it blessing, a prayer, a blessing, whatever 243 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.200 you want to call it. But this comes from enlightened consciousness. 244 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.440 Right, So, how do you select your subjects? Just asking 245 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:32.679 for a friend, how do you select me? 246 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:34.000 I mean your subject. 247 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:39.399 Pretty much obviously teasing because we are incredibly blessed already. 248 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:42.799 But in case you need more subjects, you let us know, right, 249 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.120 So that sounds amazing, And I know that the work 250 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.600 that you and your husband are doing. Are is really 251 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.480 it's probably poised to change mankind honestly if people really 252 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:56.360 look at it in that way. I mean to have 253 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.399 this many peer reviewed studies and not by like Joe's 254 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.639 garage kind of things. Am I t Oxford, Harvard like 255 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.759 some of the bigger the big places that are verifying 256 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:14.320 these results. What has been their reaction to these results? 257 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:16.759 Are they going? You know, there must be something wrong 258 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:21.720 because traditionally scientists have had a difficult time with these 259 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:22.360 types of things. 260 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:28.960 We get so many varied reactions a lot of it. Sometimes, 261 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:32.080 you know, no matter how much facts and data you 262 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.639 present to someone, there will always be a certain bias 263 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.159 that prevents that person from accepting the truth. So when 264 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.919 my husband first started, right, he's my guru. Right, he's 265 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.080 a girl from India. So when he first you know, 266 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.879 went through his own enlightenment, his own awakening, right, he 267 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.799 was wearing the saffron robes and you know, and all 268 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:51.480 of that, he was blessing people, because that's what you 269 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:53.840 do in India, right, you take the role of the guru. 270 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:57.639 And he's you know, performing that role. And but what 271 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.600 touches me deeply is his belief he says, one of 272 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.480 the worst sins you can commit is giving someone false hope. 273 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.440 And that started him on this, you know, venture of 274 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.639 determining because he's seeing all these false gurus and all 275 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:14.960 these people who take advantage of spirituality and the void 276 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.960 that science has in regards to authenticating And you know, 277 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.840 because when science can't get involved in the spiritual you 278 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.320 see a lot of corruption rises. You see a lot 279 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.360 of people taking advantage. You see a lot of pseudoscience, 280 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:30.440 you see a lot of scams. You see a lot 281 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.200 of people with good intention, but it's actually damaging and 282 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.840 hurting people. So he's like, I don't want this to 283 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:38.879 be limited to just people's psychologies. Even though he's seeing 284 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.960 these incredible results, right, And people started coming to him, 285 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:47.000 like these major producers, people from the Bollywood industry, politicians, 286 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.679 and he left all of that. He already had a 287 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:54.720 well established you know basis, this great reputation in India 288 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:56.960 and all these followers. And yet the same time he 289 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:01.240 left all that to pursue scientific validation. He could have 290 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.240 come to America and just you know, worn the saffron 291 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.000 robes and spatted some things from the Blahgabad Ghet I say, 292 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.200 this all the time. If you just know the Vedas 293 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:12.440 by any percentage and you, you know, utilize the power 294 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.920 of psychology, you could have a mass following and a 295 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:16.519 lot of people, you know, could give you a lot 296 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.000 of money, and they could you know, dedicate their lives 297 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.160 to you just on that alone. And instead he rejected 298 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:27.240 all of that, and he actually sought He's a first 299 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.480 you know, enlightened gurul I've ever seen or met who's 300 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:34.839 actually sought all of this rigorous scientific validation all the 301 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.279 way into material signs. I mean, can you imagine validating 302 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:43.799 material signs? Right? Psychology is easy. A lot of the 303 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:47.559 parameters that are used are using either very trivial parameters 304 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:49.359 that you've seen in a lot of clinical trials that 305 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.880 are on you know, very small, you know, groups of people. 306 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:55.000 It's usually for a very short amount of time. Or 307 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:58.759 it's usually measuring very trivial parameters like blood pressure, you know, 308 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:01.759 things like that, and over time, you can even associate 309 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:05.480 good things with smoking and your blood pressure if you 310 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:07.920 do it within a certain period of time. Right, It's 311 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:12.680 not a very credible and reputable scientific form of research, 312 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.480 which is why science has denied it for so long 313 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.440 and that's the source of all the problems you see today, 314 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:21.960 all the problems that are so prevalent among humanity, is 315 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.440 because we have denied, we have ignored why we're not 316 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.119 paying attention to this vital part of human life, of 317 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.960 human existence, of the existence of all of life. Really, 318 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:36.559 and when you deny the existence of consciousness and its 319 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:39.440 effect on quality of life and its effect on wellbeing, 320 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:43.319 you see things mental health crises. You see things like 321 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:48.079 chronic inflammation and chronic disease, things that medicine no longer 322 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:51.880 is capable of treating. That's where consciousness, we see has 323 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:56.039 actually able to target and treat and perform unprecedented outcomes 324 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.880 in even clinical trials where we have double blind, placible 325 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:04.519 controlled you know, randomized clinical trials that exclude all possibility 326 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:06.599 of placebo and psychological influence. 327 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.440 Wow, can you give us an example of one of 328 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:14.000 those trials where you just could not doubt the results? 329 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.160 Yes, one of our most clinical trials. This was conducted 330 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:23.160 in twenty nineteen, and we had a large group of people. 331 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:25.039 I think it was close to hover one hundred and 332 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:28.640 twenty one hundred and twenty volunteers. And these are volunteers 333 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:32.119 that are completely random, right, it's a placebo controlled. So 334 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:35.440 we had three groups. We had the treated group, which 335 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.359 is the group that received the blessing. We had a 336 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.519 placebo control, which is a group that you know has 337 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:44.279 a sham healer, so someone who's pretending to do a blessing, right. 338 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:46.079 And then we have a control group that's not getting 339 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.279 any treatment whatsoever. Right. And even the investigators don't know 340 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:53.720 who's in what group. Everybody has a number, even we 341 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:57.119 don't know who's getting the blessing. We're literally like, for example, 342 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.200 this clinical trial, I'm sitting in Florida, right, and these 343 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.720 participants are all the way in India right at a 344 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:06.680 clinical laboratory, and I don't know who they are. I 345 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.599 don't know their names. I don't even really know what 346 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.119 they look like. And we're just told, you know, okay, 347 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:12.759 this is the group, and you know, I give the 348 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.039 blessing to the group. And then after a while we 349 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.440 have a ninety day period and one hundred eighty day 350 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.279 period where we measure the results. We measure over one 351 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:24.079 hundred and thirty blood parameters. So it's not just you know, 352 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:27.640 people reporting what they feel the differences, but we actually 353 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:33.119 are measuring things like neurotransmitters, hormones are measuring nutrient absorption. Right, 354 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.079 We're measuring things that most of the time psychological influence 355 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:40.720 has no power over or very minimal power over. And 356 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.680 then on top of that, our most significant research that 357 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:46.000 I really want to share with you is something called 358 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:51.319 the NIH Toolbox for Cognitive and Motor Function. Now, this 359 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:55.759 is something that scientists it's the gold standard for removing 360 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.480 all subjective data and just getting down to the hard 361 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:01.400 you know, facts of them matter. And so this gold 362 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:05.440 standard it's been utilized since twenty twelve by all clinicians, 363 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:08.119 anybody doing a clinical trial when they're testing a new 364 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.359 therapure drug, and usually it's just utilized to see if 365 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:17.200 there's any negative or adverse effects from treatments. It's never 366 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:20.759 been used to measure any positive or beneficial outcomes. It's 367 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:24.319 only there to gauge if there's some you know, radical 368 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:27.519 change in someone's cognitive behavior and say maybe we shouldn't, 369 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:30.200 you know, push for this treatment on the market. 370 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:30.680 Right. 371 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:35.640 Ours is the first study where we've seen around one 372 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:39.240 hundred percent improvement in every single parameter that we've tested 373 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.000 in the ANH Toolbox of Cognitive and Motor Function. 374 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:43.559 Can you repeat that for us please? 375 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.839 Ours is the first clinical trial that has shown nearly 376 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.880 one hundred percent improvement in every single tested parameter from 377 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.720 the NIH toolbox for cognitive and motor function. 378 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:59.200 Okay, so that's what I thought. You said, Wow, that's 379 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:07.559 it outrageously, Like, how how is this not mainstream knowledge 380 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:08.000 by now? 381 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:13.400 Well, we haven't done any marketing. We've literally we've spent 382 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:16.319 so much time and so much money. We're talking about 383 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.519 like millions and millions of dollars and so much time 384 00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:24.119 and investment because we strongly believe that before marketing, we 385 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:27.720 really want to have a substantial basis of scientific fact 386 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.440 and data to properly tell people like this is what 387 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:32.480 the energy is capable of, this is what it can 388 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:35.960 do before we properly market it. And we definitely don't 389 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:38.440 want to make claims about anything related to human health 390 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:41.119 and wellness before we have several clinical trials under our 391 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:44.599 under our belt. So that's why we've been waiting. 392 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.359 You are on the skeptic positions now, so we'll catch up. 393 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:51.799 Now we're sharing it with the world. Decades of science 394 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.599 research being shared now it's just incredible. 395 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:56.640 Holy caws. 396 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.640 So you mentioned something that caught my attention and when 397 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:05.920 you said the sham healer. So there is a lot 398 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:09.200 of conversations out there about if indeed this is all 399 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:12.720 real and works the way you say, and I have 400 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:16.759 no reason to doubt whatsoever. But there's a conversation about 401 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:21.680