Speaker 1: It's Night nine with Dan Ray. I tell you Feasy
Speaker 1: Boston's new radio pro.
Speaker 2: Lea's get back to the call. He's going to go
Speaker 2: back to Connor and Hingham if you'd like to join
Speaker 2: us six one, seven, two four to ten thirty six
Speaker 2: month seven nine three one ten thirty. Connor is making
Speaker 2: the point that he thinks the most important presidential election
Speaker 2: was twenty twelve, when Mitt Romney lost to Barack Obama.
Speaker 2: Couple of interesting things about the twenty twelve presidential election.
Speaker 2: If you're still there, Connor, I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: looked up the numbers lately, but Barack Obama became only
Speaker 2: the second US president to win fewer electoral votes in
Speaker 2: his reelection than he won in its previous election. In
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, President Obama, then candidate Obama won
Speaker 2: nearly seventy million votes. He had he had sixty nine million,
Speaker 2: four ninety eight, so sixty nine and a half million.
Speaker 2: John McCain had just shy of sixty million, So he
Speaker 2: really thumped John McCain by ten million votes. And the
Speaker 2: electoral votes he won two to one three sixty five
Speaker 2: to one, seventy three, So McCain was not did not
Speaker 2: turn out to be a strong candidate in terms of
Speaker 2: the two thousand and eight election. Go fast forward to
Speaker 2: twenty twelve and Barack Obama had about four and a
Speaker 2: half million fewer votes fewer votes. In twenty and twelve,
Speaker 2: Mitt Romney only grew the Republican vote total by a million.
Speaker 2: So Romney lost three point thirty two to two oh six.
Speaker 2: And of course, four years later, Donald Trump won with
Speaker 2: whatever it was, I think, three hundred and six electoral votes.
Speaker 2: So the pub you know, the Democrats did a pretty
Speaker 2: good job rough and me up. Remember they talked about
Speaker 2: how that he had been involved in some takeover a
Speaker 2: company in Indiana and they fired employees. And Romney never
Speaker 2: carried Indiana, which was a had traditionally been a Republican
Speaker 2: state by the way, for many many years. Excriite that
Speaker 2: he did carry Indiana, that's my mistake, but I think
Speaker 2: that those ads hurt him in other states and Romney.
Speaker 2: Romney just didn't grow the Republican vote. Conversely, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: moved from there was sixty one million people that voted
Speaker 2: for Romney. Donald Trump, he only had sixty s well
Speaker 2: sixty three million, so he grew the vote by about
Speaker 2: two million, but it was enough to get those three
Speaker 2: hundred and four electoral votes that he needed to win. So,
Speaker 2: you know whatever, you know, that Republican brand of the
Speaker 2: Romney had the Republican brand of modern Republicans they had
Speaker 2: They had lost twice with McCain and Romney. I think
Speaker 2: that's why the Republicans decided to go a little a
Speaker 2: little rolled with Donald Trump in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to be clear, I should have clarified earlier.
Speaker 3: I don't think twenty twelve was, you know, the most
Speaker 3: important election of all time. I should have said in
Speaker 3: you know, recent you know, past thirty years or so.
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, so what do you think? What are you
Speaker 2: thinking about doing in this election? You you have? This
Speaker 2: is also an interesting election. Obviously you have a former
Speaker 2: president now against the current Vice president. Joe Biden has
Speaker 2: left the stage. I mean, it's it's it's really interesting.
Speaker 2: You're in Massachusetts, so you know, I can tell you
Speaker 2: right now that Vice President Harris will carry Massachusetts. So
Speaker 2: I'm just curious what are you likely to do with November.
Speaker 3: I'm not positive yet. There were so many Republicans in
Speaker 3: the primary that I was really excited about. I think
Speaker 3: the Republican Party has a really deep bench of very
Speaker 3: electrical candidates who would do fantastic in a general election.
Speaker 3: I think would make really great presidents. Marco Rubio, Tim Scott,
Speaker 3: Nicky Haley, Chris Christy, Mike Pence. I mean, there's so
Speaker 3: many people. Before Trump clinched the nomination, I was really
Speaker 3: excited about. But the question is could the country survive,
Speaker 3: you know, another four years of the failed Biden policies.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a he's a stable figure at least,
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't buy his rhetica actions. I don't
Speaker 3: think he. I think he's you know, a lot more
Speaker 3: levelheaded than Trump and at Biden.
Speaker 2: Biden's no longer run the ballot, so you can't vote.
Speaker 3: No, No, I know, I'm just speaking of Kamala as
Speaker 3: an extension, you know, this administration, because I don't imagine
Speaker 3: that there would be any really large departure in policy.
Speaker 2: But no, she wants to raise corporate income taxes, corporate
Speaker 2: taxes from twenty one percent to twenty eight percent. That'll
Speaker 2: have an impact. She also be awful, Yeah, seems to
Speaker 2: have changed attitude on a number of issues. You know,
Speaker 2: she was She contributed to the bail fund, the Minnesota
Speaker 2: bail fund. And now she's saying she's much more pro police.
Speaker 2: I mean, she's she's good. She's gonna have some explainer
Speaker 2: to do when she starts to do a few news
Speaker 2: conferences and interviews.
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, Yeah, I would not have high expectations for
Speaker 3: how well she would govern. I would disagree with the
Speaker 3: large majority of for policies.
Speaker 2: So really, the last, how old are you? If I
Speaker 2: could ask?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 2: Sound like you're fairly.
Speaker 3: Young, not too young. Twenty nine, twenty nine, that's pretty young,
Speaker 3: so I guess it's all relative.
Speaker 2: No, but twenty nine, so therefore you were only what twelve?
Speaker 2: When I'm trying to figure out the numbers here? You
Speaker 2: were born in you were born in nineteen.
Speaker 3: Ninety five, ninety four, ninety four.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you were born in late ninety four, and
Speaker 2: so therefore in twenty twelve, you were just turning eighteen.
Speaker 2: Did you vote in that election? I assume you did
Speaker 2: if you had turned eighteen over.
Speaker 3: I missed it by my birthday was like two weeks after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, we've established it real late. Okay, So
Speaker 2: have you voted for a Democratic president?
Speaker 3: I have? Unfortunately I never wanted to be in that position,
Speaker 3: but I did last time.
Speaker 2: So you voted for Joe Biden?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I voted for Gary Johnson before that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know Gary Jhnsen was a Republican governor
Speaker 2: before he became a libertarian. M So, did you vote
Speaker 2: for Biden or against Trump?
Speaker 3: Against Trump?
Speaker 2: Against Trump? Has your feeling and attitude changed towards Trump?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: I I would not say. Maybe it's it's a little worse.
Speaker 3: I mean, are you going to you? I think he
Speaker 3: governed the country really well. I think he was a
Speaker 3: really you know in the traditional regards. I think he
Speaker 3: was fantastic with the economy. I think he was great
Speaker 3: with foreign military affairs. I didn't necessarily always like how
Speaker 3: he treated some of our allies, but I think sometimes
Speaker 3: they needed a kick in the butt. So, you know,
Speaker 3: for a few years, you know, for for a four
Speaker 3: year term. I don't think it's always that bad once
Speaker 3: in a while to have a president who might apply
Speaker 3: a little bit more pressure like that.
Speaker 2: But you're not going to vote for Trump this year?
Speaker 2: It sounds to me because if if you feel the
Speaker 2: same way to it's Trump, why would you vote for
Speaker 2: him in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see myself as a Trump voter this cycle.
Speaker 2: So you were either going to vote for Harris or
Speaker 2: blank blank that particular portion.
Speaker 3: Of the ballot, I might write someone in. That's what
Speaker 3: I'm thinking at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the same thing as blanking. So you could
Speaker 2: write in anyone you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I swing could be different. What I'm sorry?
Speaker 2: What was that I said you could write in Mitt Romney?
Speaker 3: I yeah, I could. Yeah, he would. I still think
Speaker 3: he would be a great president. I mean, I'm I
Speaker 3: think I'm more conservative than him. There's other Republicans that
Speaker 3: I think would be even better. But yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I think that was a big missed opportunity. A lot
Speaker 3: of the problems we've been having the last ten plus
Speaker 3: years I don't think we would be dealing with. I
Speaker 3: think the country would be in a much better place
Speaker 3: had he won. Yeah, well, but I agree with what
Speaker 3: you're when you're talking about earlier how he didn't grow
Speaker 3: the base. I don't think he's a very good politician.
Speaker 3: I think he's a good leader, and then contrasts that
Speaker 3: with someone like Obama, who is an amazing politician, just
Speaker 3: not a good leader.
Speaker 2: Interesting analysis, Connor, you got to call the show more often.
Speaker 2: You're you're a great caller, and I appreciate the analysis.
Speaker 2: And uh, if all of a sudden you swing back
Speaker 2: to Trump, I want to I want to hear it
Speaker 2: because I think that you are right now where a
Speaker 2: lot of people are that they're disenchanted with Trump. He's
Speaker 2: done nothing in the last couple of weeks after the
Speaker 2: assassination attempt. Did you have any different feelings towards Trump
Speaker 2: during that that brief period of when you know, he
Speaker 2: he he you know, he survived the assassination attempt.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of thought he might have a come
Speaker 3: to Jesus moment. I thought his countenance and I know
Speaker 3: I'm not the only person to steal this way. It
Speaker 3: looked like he was carrying himself differently, and got kind
Speaker 3: of excited that he was talking about being a more
Speaker 3: unifying figure, and I, you know, I thought, maybe this
Speaker 3: could be.
Speaker 2: Why do you think you can't bring himself to do like?
Speaker 2: Why do you think he cannot fit? He cannot mentally
Speaker 2: psychologically bring himself to do that.
Speaker 4: I don't. It's unbelieve.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable he as successful as he was as president,
Speaker 3: you know, with the economy, military, this stuff we talked
Speaker 3: about before he if he had a different personality, I
Speaker 3: feel like he could have carried like forty states.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's I feel like this is not a big ask.
Speaker 2: Well, do do me a favorite. Just keep me posted
Speaker 2: because I think that I think I think you will
Speaker 2: not you will not vote for either Harris or Trump.
Speaker 2: But if you change your mind, I want you to
Speaker 2: be one of my weather vane voters.
Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely, Dan, it was great talking to you.
Speaker 2: Enjoyed talking to you. Well, what are you doing for
Speaker 2: for work? Now you're twenty nine years old? How how's
Speaker 2: how's your economy doing.
Speaker 3: I've just begun I've had some major strides as a
Speaker 3: freelance animator, and I just started to break into writing.
Speaker 3: I made some big, big connections with people at the
Speaker 3: Simpsons and Family Guy, and some people expressed interested in Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was really cool. A big executive producer expressed interest
Speaker 3: in actually like producing a pilot proposal. So I was
Speaker 3: just working that I had come up with.
Speaker 2: So keep you posted on your career. Where'd you go
Speaker 2: to school to learn that? What school did you go to?
Speaker 3: Leslie University, Wesleyan or did you say Wesley down Connecticut,
Speaker 3: Leslie Well, Leslie.
Speaker 2: Leslie up in Boston. Okay, great, another great school. Keep
Speaker 2: me posted. You're going to have a great career, trust
Speaker 2: me on that.
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I kind of talked to you soon. Twenty nine year
Speaker 2: old Nights I caller, we love it. Six one, seven,
Speaker 2: triple eight, nine, ten thirty. Did the Democrats dis President
Speaker 2: Biden last night? Philip Burns Philip Bump, who's a columnist
Speaker 2: for the Washington Post, Sure thinks so, and I do
Speaker 2: as well. Keeping him off the stage until nine until
Speaker 2: eleven thirty East Coast time. I think that was an
Speaker 2: extraordinary decision for some observers rooted in the conventions of conventions,
Speaker 2: in the pattern of politics, Biden taking the stage eleven
Speaker 2: thirty was a slight, an intentional sidelining of a president
Speaker 2: the party was eager to discard. And I think that
Speaker 2: showed clearly last night. And I'd love to know what
Speaker 2: you think. We're coming back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Bright We're talking politics. I mean, there's really nothing else
Speaker 2: that is a great news value this week in my opinion,
Speaker 2: So we will continue, and I hope you'll join us.
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from some truly undecided voters, or
Speaker 2: if you decided, tell us why Mike and Beverly Mike
Speaker 2: next on Nightside Welcome.
Speaker 5: Hey, damn Mike and the How are you can hear me?
Speaker 2: I can hear you just fine. You're right ahead, Mike.
Speaker 5: So, as you know, I'm a Trump supporter and I
Speaker 5: have been listening. Dan. You know I don't understand, but
Speaker 5: you can know better than me. Has you ever met
Speaker 5: a time when the situation we're going through where a
Speaker 5: VP has going for the presidency, like the situation is
Speaker 5: going through now because she talks all this sort of stuff,
Speaker 5: But she can know that right now. And I don't
Speaker 5: think the people know that that the Democrats are and
Speaker 5: the parents know that all the stuff she talks about,
Speaker 5: she can do it right this minute. She can do
Speaker 5: it now. We'll have to wait to election. She can
Speaker 5: do now. And I don't think they they they grasped
Speaker 5: that point.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I well, I think you make an
Speaker 2: interesting point. I will tell you that George Bush in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight was a vice president who had won
Speaker 2: the nomination, and he was running against Mike docaccas. You
Speaker 2: had Al Gore in nineteen in two thousand, who ran
Speaker 2: against George Bush, he was a vice president. Neither one
Speaker 2: of them won. You have now Joe Biden didn't run
Speaker 2: in twenty and sixteen. Some people believe that President Obama
Speaker 2: made it clear that he would have preferred to see Hillary.
Speaker 4: Run, and that, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think my position would be on Kamal
Speaker 2: Harris is her comments, for example, no taxes on tips.
Speaker 2: Now that was clearly Donald Trump's idea months ago. However, however,
Speaker 2: he has a good point there. He can just say, well, look,
Speaker 2: you were vice president for three and a half years,
Speaker 2: how come you never express that and to the best
Speaker 2: of my and she didn't express it. So and she
Speaker 2: has some changes in her, uh you know, in her
Speaker 2: in her votes.
Speaker 5: I mean she is quickly we're coming off there not
Speaker 5: could be no, they're hiding her. There's not can be
Speaker 5: no press conference or any press relations with her at all.
Speaker 5: There's going to be once it's September tenth, and that's
Speaker 5: going to be it.
Speaker 2: You want.
Speaker 5: They will not hire They're going to hide her.
Speaker 2: Dad, you know, here's the thing. I think that they
Speaker 2: had the ability to hide Joe Biden in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: because of his age and because of COVID. I don't
Speaker 2: think that she will survive and win as a candidate
Speaker 2: using that strategy. I think it's a different time and
Speaker 2: it's a different question.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how can you do this now with no policy?
Speaker 5: Her website is blank, send me money, but there's no
Speaker 5: policy on her website zero.
Speaker 2: Well, part of that, part of it is that the
Speaker 2: Democrats really Donald Trump. Democrat do not like Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: and uh and you know they they they talk much
Speaker 2: more about the need to defeat Donald Trump than necessarily
Speaker 2: the need to elect Kamala Harris vice president Harris. Although
Speaker 2: obviously if they defeat Donald Trump, they will elect a
Speaker 2: vice president vice president Harris. So you know, don't don't
Speaker 2: get upset about it. Continue to listen to Nights Out
Speaker 2: and continue to express your opinions.
Speaker 5: I get it. It's just it's common sense, So bun,
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's just that we are probably good
Speaker 5: part of common sense. And if you listen to Bernie
Speaker 5: Savis and I he wants the everything away, like I
Speaker 5: don't understand it, Like I so I want to work
Speaker 5: for free. Think of all my tax moneys away and
Speaker 5: I get nothing back, and it's just it's well, I think.
Speaker 2: I think, I think that I think that you should
Speaker 2: be a speech writer for Donald Trump, or you should
Speaker 2: be an issues advisor for Donald Trump, because I'm serious,
Speaker 2: it's the issues that he needs to start talking and
Speaker 2: it has to stop. I listened to him. I guess
Speaker 2: it was yesterday and he just went on and on,
Speaker 2: or maybe it was today. He was in Michigan today
Speaker 2: and there were a couple of police officers standing behind him,
Speaker 2: and he just kept repeating himself and going on and
Speaker 2: how this and that. I'm listening to Hie, I'm say
Speaker 2: the mess. I can hear people's minds clicking off, saying
Speaker 2: we don't need to listen to that, over and over
Speaker 2: and over again. He's finally getting away from revisiting the
Speaker 2: grievance of twenty twenty. I feel like I'm watching Seinfeld
Speaker 2: or something like that. It's what the word going ads means.
Speaker 2: You don't have to get You know, you were pretty
Speaker 2: good when you were saying medical stuff. But yeah, let's
Speaker 2: just leave it at that. Look, the bottom line is
Speaker 2: you may love him Mike, okay, because of exactly that.
Speaker 2: He says what he means, and he means what he says,
Speaker 2: and he keeps saying the same darn thing. But there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people that's going to be turned off
Speaker 2: by that. Mike, trust me on that his campaign has
Speaker 2: lost momentum in the last three weeks. Uh, and I
Speaker 2: do not see them picking any any momentum up right now.
Speaker 2: So that's I'm just telling you. I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: horse race. Do you feel better about Trump's campaign? Let
Speaker 2: me ask you this, Do you feel better about your
Speaker 2: candidate's campaign today than you did three weeks ago?
Speaker 5: I think I think there's more for the Democratic because
Speaker 5: they're hiding her so much and then and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just shadowing her around, and there's there's a big.
Speaker 2: Your guy, your guy is not is not bringing it
Speaker 2: to the table. He's not talking about issues, and until
Speaker 2: he starts talking about issues, he's gonna he's bleeding voters
Speaker 2: in my opinion. That's I know that's not what you
Speaker 2: want to hear, But I'm telling you what I believe
Speaker 2: to be the truth. That's all.
Speaker 5: Okay, I get it, I get it, I calling.
Speaker 2: Keep calling, Okay, that's I have a good one six
Speaker 2: one eight ten thirty or six one seven nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. I don't mean to throw a lot
Speaker 2: of numbers at you, but let's talk. Let's talk this race.
Speaker 2: I don't care which side of the idol you're on here,
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. And you can be a Trump
Speaker 2: person and criticize Trump, or you can be a Harris
Speaker 2: person and criticized Trump. You can be a Trump person
Speaker 2: criticize Harris. That's whatever you want to do. But all
Speaker 2: you could be undecided, and I I will do a
Speaker 2: quick examination of you, and I will tell you who
Speaker 2: you will vote for. I can predict that who you
Speaker 2: will vote for in November if you're truly undecided. And
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, I want you to call me back
Speaker 2: on November fifth or November sixth, then tell me I
Speaker 2: was wrong.
Speaker 1: It's nice side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: So I'm inviting people who were undecided to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: But I know that my friend Laurie and Idaho is
Speaker 2: not undecided, at least in my last check. Laurie and
Speaker 2: Idaho welcome, How are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was a good call.
Speaker 6: No, I'm actually calling because I agree with you about
Speaker 6: the way Biden was treated the other night, and I
Speaker 6: think that's the way he's been treated, at least publicly
Speaker 6: a little bit since the end of July. And I
Speaker 6: just thought that was absolutely disrespectful. And I mean, you know, well, let.
Speaker 2: Me play a sound by which I think is interesting,
Speaker 2: and this is Chris Wallace of CNN, and I want
Speaker 2: you wait to react what Chris Wallace said. Okay, CNN. No,
Speaker 2: Chris Wallace used to be with Fox. But Chris, I
Speaker 2: think was right on the money here this is and
Speaker 2: I think you'll agree with him. Got eighteen please Rob
Speaker 2: Chris Wallace last night talking about the feeling inside the
Speaker 2: United Center in Chicago.
Speaker 7: The word that everybody is using to describe tonight as bittersweet,
Speaker 7: just bitter. The fact of the matter, I'm not saying
Speaker 7: Joe Biden is bitter, but you know, it's like you've
Speaker 7: been thrown out a window and as you're falling, you go, gee,
Speaker 7: it's nice out here. No, he got thrown out of
Speaker 7: window and basically he was forced. You know, there's gonna
Speaker 7: be a lot of talk tonight about how generous it
Speaker 7: was of him too, and selfless of him. He was
Speaker 7: basically forced out by Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and
Speaker 7: Chuck Schumer and jakeem Jefferies, and I suspect even the
Speaker 7: fact that there has been this surge of enthusiasm since
Speaker 7: he left and Kamala Harris took his place. That's got
Speaker 7: to be pretty tough too. You've got thrown out of
Speaker 7: a window and everybody's applauding the person who's now in
Speaker 7: the room.
Speaker 2: And Jake Tapper, also, I think, is on the same page.
Speaker 2: This was a conversation tapperhead last night on seeing it
Speaker 2: with Nancy Pelosi, and I really want you to react
Speaker 2: to this. Here's his fancy Nancy Pelosi with Jack Jake
Speaker 2: Tapper last night. Team Please Rob, it does seem like
Speaker 2: there's some residual back blood or resentment. And I'm wondering
Speaker 2: if you've.
Speaker 8: Spoken to him and and and what your response is
Speaker 8: to that. Sometimes you just have to take a punch
Speaker 8: for the children.
Speaker 2: And that's what you're doing right now. You're just gonna
Speaker 2: take the punch for the children.
Speaker 5: Who's right now?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I.
Speaker 2: Interview with me.
Speaker 7: Maybe he's showing the punch.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not I wouldn't ever, But she doesn't want to fight.
Speaker 8: Nobody wants to have to fight with Nancy Pelosi at
Speaker 8: this time. You know what I have to do. He
Speaker 8: made the decision for the country. My concern is not
Speaker 8: about the president was about his campaign.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a difference without a distinction.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, wouldn't you love to.
Speaker 2: Be on a lifeboat with her with just a one
Speaker 2: life preserver?
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 6: I was a lifeguard for ten years and I know
Speaker 6: how to do it, so sure anytime.
Speaker 2: No, I mean really, oh my gosh, no, wonder they're
Speaker 2: not talking And what difference does it make at this
Speaker 2: point anyway?
Speaker 6: But yeah, no, it doesn't. And I just when you
Speaker 6: look back, that's the same treatment that he's gotten since.
Speaker 6: I mean, I heard somewhere I don't even know where
Speaker 6: it was, that since with that end of July weekend
Speaker 6: where you know, someone, when he made his his his
Speaker 6: announcement that he wouldn't be doing it. I heard that
Speaker 6: Nancy Pelosi and some of the other people hadn't even
Speaker 6: spoken to him until now. I don't know if that's
Speaker 6: true or not.
Speaker 2: But she hasn't spoken to him yet. She as I
Speaker 2: understand it, oh, just.
Speaker 6: Through her little like, you know, wow, and so you know,
Speaker 6: and you know, I'm not a big fan of the
Speaker 6: Biden politics and all that, but I just thought the
Speaker 6: way he got treated was just rude because they abused
Speaker 6: him essentially for three and a half years, propping him
Speaker 6: up and making them do their thing, and then all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, oh gosh, well you know what you
Speaker 6: got to go. I'm sure doctor Jill must be having
Speaker 6: a bit of a conniption by now, but I just I, yeah,
Speaker 6: that was just rude. It's he's old, it's way past
Speaker 6: his bedtime. Let him go on first and do his
Speaker 6: sing and get the heck out of there. And yeah, no,
Speaker 6: I agree with you. I thought that was very very
Speaker 6: unjust and very disrespectful treatment. And these are the same
Speaker 6: group of Democrats we want running our country again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's almost as if it's like a mafia hit.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like, you know, it's so like in
Speaker 2: the you know, in The Godfather that you know, somebody
Speaker 2: you know was very helpful and very useful, and he
Speaker 2: did what people told him to do. But then there
Speaker 2: came a point in time where he was going to
Speaker 2: be a problem. Uh, and maybe they felt he was
Speaker 2: weak and he was gonna maybe cut a deal, you know,
Speaker 2: work work something out with with the with the the authorities,
Speaker 2: and you know, he had to go. He had to go.
Speaker 6: Well, and it does and it just it was they
Speaker 6: they respected him and showed him all the respect until
Speaker 6: all the time that he was not useful anymore, and
Speaker 6: then they were they were absolutely rude about how they
Speaker 6: did it. I mean, he's an old guy, he's a
Speaker 6: feeling guy.
Speaker 4: Mentally.
Speaker 6: It must is, it must really have hurt.
Speaker 2: I guess if you run with the big dogs, sometimes
Speaker 2: the pack turns on you.
Speaker 6: And it is a pack of wolf hyenas. And I
Speaker 6: don't know whatever else is out there, but wow, America,
Speaker 6: be careful who you vote for.
Speaker 2: Okay. I know who you're going to vote for. So
Speaker 2: we'll get on all right, right, talked to you, okay,
Speaker 2: my head tonight, Thank you so much, doctor. Good night,
Speaker 2: all right, Lourie, good night. Six one seven two thirty
Speaker 2: six one seven nine three one ten thirty. Those are
Speaker 2: the two lines. I lean is in Waltham. I lean
Speaker 2: your next one nights. I'd welcome.
Speaker 6: Good evening. How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great Aileen, thanks for checking in here. Did
Speaker 2: did the Democrats do right by Joe Biden last night? No?
Speaker 6: And I think you made my point and you could
Speaker 6: pay to a mafia hit. I have a question that
Speaker 6: nobody has addressed, and it seems we missed these kind
Speaker 6: of opportunities all the day. Why was the debate in
Speaker 6: June instead of in September.
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: Now, what happened that question?
Speaker 6: It puts a whole different line on everything.
Speaker 2: Well, here's what happened.
Speaker 6: Was a hit. It was a definite hit.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what happened if you recall, which is I
Speaker 2: think really interesting. I'd let to know what other people
Speaker 2: think about this. If you remember, one morning in early June,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump had said he was looking forward to debating
Speaker 2: Joe Biden anywhere, anytime, any place, And one morning the
Speaker 2: White House released a videotape of Joe Biden said, and
Speaker 2: he was very disrespectful to Trump. It was like, hey, Donald,
Speaker 2: you said, anytime, anywhere, any place, I'm ready. Let's do
Speaker 2: it make my day. He used that line the Clint
Speaker 2: Eastwood line, he looked were tough and ready, And within
Speaker 2: an hour CNN had offered the debate stage and Joe
Speaker 2: Biden had accepted, and then Donald Trump accepted. Uh. And
Speaker 2: remember some of the there was going to be no audience,
Speaker 2: no noteo, yes, and there was going to be a
Speaker 2: strict limit on time. So when someone's time was up,
Speaker 2: it was up. Jake Tapper and Dana Bash treated Donald
Speaker 2: Trump very respectfully.
Speaker 6: I think I listened to a little bit, but not
Speaker 6: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I watched it as much as I could. I'd
Speaker 2: listened to it because we were just as we played
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's that debate and then we played his acceptance speech.
Speaker 2: Will also play Vice President Harris's acceptance speech on Thursday night,
Speaker 2: so you'll hear it here on Night Side as well.
Speaker 2: But the point is when he came out, he looked
Speaker 2: I looked awful, and he.
Speaker 4: Looked, oh yeah.
Speaker 6: The whole thing, I mean.
Speaker 2: He was set up to He was set up. I
Speaker 2: happen to agree with you. He was set up. He
Speaker 2: was set up to fail.
Speaker 6: It was a hit, and I don't think the hit
Speaker 6: began recently. I think this whole scenario was put in
Speaker 6: place back in to sixteen.
Speaker 4: I think that's good was just a holder.
Speaker 3: He was the hold of that.
Speaker 2: When I lean Aleen, you said to sixteen in to
Speaker 2: sixteen he was. He basically decided.
Speaker 6: He wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Yes, he wasn't there, right, he had been vice president of.
Speaker 6: Eight years, and then he came back in Yep, he
Speaker 6: came back into Parent. Everybody saw Philip was going to
Speaker 6: win the Air of Parent and she didn't. And so
Speaker 6: I really believed the powers that be, the control was
Speaker 6: behind the Democratic Party started then saying Okay, what are we.
Speaker 4: Going to do?
Speaker 2: I'm agreeing with you, And what I was trying to
Speaker 2: say was that in twenty twenty, I think the the
Speaker 2: powers that be in the Democratic Party decided. If you
Speaker 2: remember it, he became the nominee almost overnight. He had
Speaker 2: finished fourth or fifth in New Hampshire, and he flew
Speaker 2: to South Carolina and that Saturday he won decisively in
Speaker 2: South Carolina thanks to the help of Congressman James Cliburne
Speaker 2: Clive Burne, and immediately Pete Buddhajet flew to South Carolina
Speaker 2: and endorsed him, and I think Amy Claubacher did and
Speaker 2: that race was over. Based upon the South Carolina primary,
Speaker 2: I think that was a set up as well. I
Speaker 2: think the.
Speaker 6: Democrats one I really think it's a long term plan
Speaker 6: and as you as you sent you it's a coup.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't use the word coup that day.
Speaker 4: Getting rid of Biden others doing them there.
Speaker 2: I think she can hear me. There are others who
Speaker 2: have used the word coup. I lean, and we talked
Speaker 2: about that last that last night.
Speaker 6: I really think there's a concern. I think we're going
Speaker 6: to wake up and ask what's really going on here.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see if people react to what you have
Speaker 2: to say. I Lean, thank you very much for your call.
Speaker 6: The question is why and why and June.
Speaker 4: Instead of in September.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see what people say. Thank you. I Leen,
Speaker 2: appreciate your call. Ran good night six one seven two
Speaker 2: five four ten And I think she did a tough
Speaker 2: time hearing me there, so I tried not to be interruptive.
Speaker 2: If you'd like to join the conversation, and I really
Speaker 2: wish you would six one seven, two five four ten
Speaker 2: thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. For
Speaker 2: those of you who are interested, Michelle Obama is speaking
Speaker 2: the The husband of the Vice President, Doug M Hoff
Speaker 2: has just spoken, and I suspect that missus Obama is
Speaker 2: about to interview introduce the former president, and again I
Speaker 2: think we're still here in prime time, although it is
Speaker 2: getting a little lighter. But last night, remember Joe Biden
Speaker 2: didn't hit that stage until about ten thirty. I think
Speaker 2: he was disrespected last night doesn't really matter at this point.
Speaker 2: He is now in the review mirror for the Democrats.
Speaker 2: And again, it's been a spectacular change, There's no doubt.
Speaker 2: And I said last winter, I didn't think that we
Speaker 2: were not going to have surprises. I said there would
Speaker 2: be surprises. I did not anticipate that Joe Biden on
Speaker 2: July twenty first would step away. So I'd love to know.
Speaker 2: I want to talk politics tonight. You were more than
Speaker 2: welcome to join the conversation. And if you're a new
Speaker 2: call that's great. If you're an undecided caller, if you
Speaker 2: truly aren't decided, I don't think there were too many
Speaker 2: of you who are undecided at this point, and I
Speaker 2: think most of you are either going to be huge
Speaker 2: Trump supporters and vote for Donald Trump because you believe
Speaker 2: in Donald Trump and everything that he represents, or on
Speaker 2: the Democratic side, you have been energized. Now you were
Speaker 2: a little reluctant to really throw your weight behind Joe
Speaker 2: Biden again, but now you're energized.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's it's also if the is this election I
Speaker 2: think is becoming more and more about Donald Trump, and
Speaker 2: I think that is the way that Democrats want to
Speaker 2: play it.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: If you agree, wonderful. If you disagree, feel free join
Speaker 2: the conversation back on Nightside right after this quick commercial break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. Let me go to
Speaker 2: Ross in Denham, Massachusetts. Hey, Ross, welcome, You're next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: I'm being great Ross. What's your your question or comment tonight?
Speaker 4: Wh are you an gham? And just things? I am
Speaker 4: a first time caller, but I can't lie. I worked no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no. I did work for wb Z ready for
Speaker 4: three years. I enjoyed you.
Speaker 2: You worked for BESY how long ago?
Speaker 4: Early nineties?
Speaker 2: Early nineties? Okay, well, I was in TV at the time.
Speaker 2: Did we ever cross paths?
Speaker 4: Probably in the men's room.
Speaker 2: I mean, what did you do? If I could ask?
Speaker 4: I know I was in the traffic departments to commercial
Speaker 4: commercial operations and then I went back to the enemy
Speaker 4: for thirty years and I just retired.
Speaker 2: So who was the enemy?
Speaker 4: If I could ask Fox TV?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Okay, that's okay, they're not the enemy.
Speaker 2: Their colleagues right ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. They grabbed me out of college and I
Speaker 4: went there and buzzed over to BZ and I went
Speaker 4: back to Fox.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome as a first time caller. Do we give
Speaker 2: We got round of applause for you, Thank you Forank Colin.
Speaker 2: Are you undecided in this race or where are you.
Speaker 4: Actually? I'm confused. In twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, I
Speaker 4: voted for the Libertarian Cicut okay, because Bill Weld was
Speaker 4: on the ticket, Yes he was. Yeah, so I went
Speaker 4: with that route. I couldn't vote for a party, so
Speaker 4: it's not going to work. Okay, excuse me, there's time around.
Speaker 4: My question is to you is I've been looking at
Speaker 4: the U. I guess the four figures behind you know,
Speaker 4: the Democrats, Republicans. I didn't know if you had any
Speaker 4: opinion on somebody like Jill Stein.
Speaker 2: Well she's she's the Green Party candidates. He lives in
Speaker 2: Lexington and she got a few votes. You know, these
Speaker 2: third party candidates sometimes actually do surprisingly well. You know,
Speaker 2: I again. The libertarian candidate in twenty twenty was a
Speaker 2: woman named Joe Jorgenson. She got almost two million votes.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a lot of votes, but no electoral votes.
Speaker 2: Jill Stein in twenty sixteen, many people think that she
Speaker 2: cost Hillary Clinton the election. She got almost a million
Speaker 2: and a half votes. Gary Johnson was the libertarian in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, got almost four and a half million votes.
Speaker 2: So you know, if you it's those are small votes,
Speaker 2: but they could mean a lot to one of the
Speaker 2: major candidates. So you know, what where are you leaning
Speaker 2: this time? Are you leaning to vote for? You're not
Speaker 2: going to vote for for Harris or Trump?
Speaker 4: I assume no, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: No, Okay, you're going to find a third What about
Speaker 2: rf K No, no, no, okay, okay, I.
Speaker 4: Don't mean to laugh, but no, that's that's not gonna happen. Okay,
Speaker 4: there's another guy out here, I don't know, fever bought him,
Speaker 4: called all the Chase.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the Libertarian candidate. He'll get a million votes
Speaker 2: and you'll have no. I mean, it's a nice vote
Speaker 2: to make if that's what you want to do, But
Speaker 2: you're not gonna You're not gonna it's not going to
Speaker 2: impact the election.
Speaker 4: No, not, it wonts. But I will ask you this question. Uh,
Speaker 4: Let's say a bunch of us wrote here. Somebody who
Speaker 4: I do like is uh Christy, Uh, Christy Chase. Let's
Speaker 4: say you're right here, man.
Speaker 2: Who I missed that?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 2: He's one you're talking about, Chris Christy?
Speaker 4: Thank you? The guy from New Jersey. Yeah, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's not gonna help.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'll tell you either either Trump
Speaker 2: or Harris will win. Either Trump or Harris will win.
Speaker 4: Right, But my question is if some of us will
Speaker 4: in him, would that helped him get donations if he
Speaker 4: wanted to go run for senator?
Speaker 2: Not really?
Speaker 4: I mean now, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think so. Yeah, yeah, I think ross that again.
Speaker 2: It's a you know, the reality is that this country
Speaker 2: is a two party, two party country, unlike the European
Speaker 2: countries which have you know, coalition governments, or Israel, where
Speaker 2: you have seven or eight major parties or minor parties.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, so you have.
Speaker 2: I mean in twenty sixteen, you had Joe Stein the
Speaker 2: Green Party, you had Evan McMullan, an independent, uh, and
Speaker 2: then there are other other groups that that are out
Speaker 2: there too. You know, Gary Johnson was the Libertarian Party
Speaker 2: candidate back then. But again if right, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and again it can make a difference. I mean, if
Speaker 2: there's a significant vote in one state. Look, George Bush
Speaker 2: never would have beat al Gore if Ralph Nader hadn't
Speaker 2: bet on the ballot. You know how many votes Ralph
Speaker 2: Nader got in Florida in two thousand. That was a
Speaker 2: race in Florida where Bush won by five hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty seven votes. You how many votes Nader got? But
Speaker 2: take guess, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I do know.
Speaker 2: Ninety ninety two thousand, Ross is the answer? Ninety two thousand,
Speaker 2: which what percentage of those votes you think would have
Speaker 2: gone Native's votes would have gone to al Gore as
Speaker 2: opposed to George Bush?
Speaker 4: Oh, all of them?
Speaker 2: Right? Al Gore would have been the President of United
Speaker 2: States it had not been for Ralph Nator being on
Speaker 2: the ballot.
Speaker 4: In California, his followers a spoiler would be lost. Parrot right, But.
Speaker 2: Parot had no impact. I mean Perot got no electoral votes.
Speaker 2: I don't know that he costs that have to go
Speaker 2: back and look and see if he be cost George
Speaker 2: Bush Particolah.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he took photes away from Bush.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think so. We got nineteen percent of
Speaker 2: the vote. Ross, I got a run. Thank you very
Speaker 2: much for your call. Great to renew an old friendship
Speaker 2: here and keep calling the show. You no reason why
Speaker 2: you can't becoming a second or a third time caller.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks well, great night.
Speaker 2: All right you two, here comes the eleven o'clock news.
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