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<v Speaker 1>It's Night nine with Dan Ray. I tell you Feasy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's new radio pro.

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<v Speaker 2>Lea's get back to the call. He's going to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Connor and Hingham if you'd like to join

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<v Speaker 2>us six one, seven, two four to ten thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>month seven nine three one ten thirty. Connor is making

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<v Speaker 2>the point that he thinks the most important presidential election

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty twelve, when Mitt Romney lost to Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of interesting things about the twenty twelve presidential election.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're still there, Connor, I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 2>looked up the numbers lately, but Barack Obama became only

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<v Speaker 2>the second US president to win fewer electoral votes in

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<v Speaker 2>his reelection than he won in its previous election. In

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight, President Obama, then candidate Obama won

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<v Speaker 2>nearly seventy million votes. He had he had sixty nine million,

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<v Speaker 2>four ninety eight, so sixty nine and a half million.

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<v Speaker 2>John McCain had just shy of sixty million, So he

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<v Speaker 2>really thumped John McCain by ten million votes. And the

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<v Speaker 2>electoral votes he won two to one three sixty five

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<v Speaker 2>to one, seventy three, So McCain was not did not

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<v Speaker 2>turn out to be a strong candidate in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousand and eight election. Go fast forward to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve and Barack Obama had about four and a

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<v Speaker 2>half million fewer votes fewer votes. In twenty and twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>Mitt Romney only grew the Republican vote total by a million.

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<v Speaker 2>So Romney lost three point thirty two to two oh six.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, four years later, Donald Trump won with

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, I think, three hundred and six electoral votes.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pub you know, the Democrats did a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good job rough and me up. Remember they talked about

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<v Speaker 2>how that he had been involved in some takeover a

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<v Speaker 2>company in Indiana and they fired employees. And Romney never

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<v Speaker 2>carried Indiana, which was a had traditionally been a Republican

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<v Speaker 2>state by the way, for many many years. Excriite that

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<v Speaker 2>he did carry Indiana, that's my mistake, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>that those ads hurt him in other states and Romney.

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<v Speaker 2>Romney just didn't grow the Republican vote. Conversely, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>moved from there was sixty one million people that voted

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<v Speaker 2>for Romney. Donald Trump, he only had sixty s well

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three million, so he grew the vote by about

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<v Speaker 2>two million, but it was enough to get those three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and four electoral votes that he needed to win. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever, you know, that Republican brand of the

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<v Speaker 2>Romney had the Republican brand of modern Republicans they had

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<v Speaker 2>They had lost twice with McCain and Romney. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's why the Republicans decided to go a little a

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<v Speaker 2>little rolled with Donald Trump in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just to be clear, I should have clarified earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think twenty twelve was, you know, the most

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<v Speaker 3>important election of all time. I should have said in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, recent you know, past thirty years or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Yeah, so what do you think? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about doing in this election? You you have? This

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<v Speaker 2>is also an interesting election. Obviously you have a former

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<v Speaker 2>president now against the current Vice president. Joe Biden has

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<v Speaker 2>left the stage. I mean, it's it's it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in Massachusetts, so you know, I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>right now that Vice President Harris will carry Massachusetts. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious what are you likely to do with November.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not positive yet. There were so many Republicans in

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<v Speaker 3>the primary that I was really excited about. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican Party has a really deep bench of very

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<v Speaker 3>electrical candidates who would do fantastic in a general election.

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<v Speaker 3>I think would make really great presidents. Marco Rubio, Tim Scott,

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<v Speaker 3>Nicky Haley, Chris Christy, Mike Pence. I mean, there's so

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<v Speaker 3>many people. Before Trump clinched the nomination, I was really

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<v Speaker 3>excited about. But the question is could the country survive,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, another four years of the failed Biden policies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a he's a stable figure at least,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he doesn't buy his rhetica actions. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he. I think he's you know, a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>levelheaded than Trump and at Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's no longer run the ballot, so you can't vote.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I know, I'm just speaking of Kamala as

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<v Speaker 3>an extension, you know, this administration, because I don't imagine

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<v Speaker 3>that there would be any really large departure in policy.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, she wants to raise corporate income taxes, corporate

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<v Speaker 2>taxes from twenty one percent to twenty eight percent. That'll

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<v Speaker 2>have an impact. She also be awful, Yeah, seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have changed attitude on a number of issues. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she was She contributed to the bail fund, the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>bail fund. And now she's saying she's much more pro police.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's she's good. She's gonna have some explainer

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<v Speaker 2>to do when she starts to do a few news

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<v Speaker 2>conferences and interviews.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, absolutely, Yeah, I would not have high expectations for

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<v Speaker 3>how well she would govern. I would disagree with the

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<v Speaker 3>large majority of for policies.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, the last, how old are you? If I

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<v Speaker 2>could ask?

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<v Speaker 4>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Sound like you're fairly.

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<v Speaker 3>Young, not too young. Twenty nine, twenty nine, that's pretty young,

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<v Speaker 3>so I guess it's all relative.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but twenty nine, so therefore you were only what twelve?

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm trying to figure out the numbers here? You

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<v Speaker 2>were born in you were born in nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety five, ninety four, ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you were born in late ninety four, and

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<v Speaker 2>so therefore in twenty twelve, you were just turning eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you vote in that election? I assume you did

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<v Speaker 2>if you had turned eighteen over.

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<v Speaker 3>I missed it by my birthday was like two weeks after.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, we've established it real late. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>have you voted for a Democratic president?

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<v Speaker 3>I have? Unfortunately I never wanted to be in that position,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did last time.

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<v Speaker 2>So you voted for Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I voted for Gary Johnson before that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, you know Gary Jhnsen was a Republican governor

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<v Speaker 2>before he became a libertarian. M So, did you vote

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<v Speaker 2>for Biden or against Trump?

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<v Speaker 3>Against Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>Against Trump? Has your feeling and attitude changed towards Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>I I would not say. Maybe it's it's a little worse.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, are you going to you? I think he

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<v Speaker 3>governed the country really well. I think he was a

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<v Speaker 3>really you know in the traditional regards. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>was fantastic with the economy. I think he was great

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<v Speaker 3>with foreign military affairs. I didn't necessarily always like how

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<v Speaker 3>he treated some of our allies, but I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>they needed a kick in the butt. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for a few years, you know, for for a four

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<v Speaker 3>year term. I don't think it's always that bad once

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<v Speaker 3>in a while to have a president who might apply

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more pressure like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're not going to vote for Trump this year?

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds to me because if if you feel the

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<v Speaker 2>same way to it's Trump, why would you vote for

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<v Speaker 2>him in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't see myself as a Trump voter this cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were either going to vote for Harris or

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<v Speaker 2>blank blank that particular portion.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the ballot, I might write someone in. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the same thing as blanking. So you could

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<v Speaker 2>write in anyone you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, I swing could be different. What I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that I said you could write in Mitt Romney?

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I could. Yeah, he would. I still think

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<v Speaker 3>he would be a great president. I mean, I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm more conservative than him. There's other Republicans that

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<v Speaker 3>I think would be even better. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was a big missed opportunity. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the problems we've been having the last ten plus

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<v Speaker 3>years I don't think we would be dealing with. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the country would be in a much better place

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<v Speaker 3>had he won. Yeah, well, but I agree with what

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<v Speaker 3>you're when you're talking about earlier how he didn't grow

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<v Speaker 3>the base. I don't think he's a very good politician.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's a good leader, and then contrasts that

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<v Speaker 3>with someone like Obama, who is an amazing politician, just

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<v Speaker 3>not a good leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting analysis, Connor, you got to call the show more often.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're a great caller, and I appreciate the analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, if all of a sudden you swing back

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<v Speaker 2>to Trump, I want to I want to hear it

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that you are right now where a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are that they're disenchanted with Trump. He's

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<v Speaker 2>done nothing in the last couple of weeks after the

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<v Speaker 2>assassination attempt. Did you have any different feelings towards Trump

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<v Speaker 2>during that that brief period of when you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>he he you know, he survived the assassination attempt.

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kind of thought he might have a come

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<v Speaker 3>to Jesus moment. I thought his countenance and I know

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the only person to steal this way. It

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<v Speaker 3>looked like he was carrying himself differently, and got kind

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<v Speaker 3>of excited that he was talking about being a more

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<v Speaker 3>unifying figure, and I, you know, I thought, maybe this

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<v Speaker 3>could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think you can't bring himself to do like?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think he cannot fit? He cannot mentally

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<v Speaker 2>psychologically bring himself to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. It's unbelieve.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable he as successful as he was as president,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with the economy, military, this stuff we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about before he if he had a different personality, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like he could have carried like forty states.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I feel like this is not a big ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do do me a favorite. Just keep me posted

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that I think I think you will

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<v Speaker 2>not you will not vote for either Harris or Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you change your mind, I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of my weather vane voters.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, absolutely, Dan, it was great talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoyed talking to you. Well, what are you doing for

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<v Speaker 2>for work? Now you're twenty nine years old? How how's

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<v Speaker 2>how's your economy doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've just begun I've had some major strides as a

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<v Speaker 3>freelance animator, and I just started to break into writing.

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<v Speaker 3>I made some big, big connections with people at the

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<v Speaker 3>Simpsons and Family Guy, and some people expressed interested in Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was really cool. A big executive producer expressed interest

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<v Speaker 3>in actually like producing a pilot proposal. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>just working that I had come up with.

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<v Speaker 2>So keep you posted on your career. Where'd you go

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<v Speaker 2>to school to learn that? What school did you go to?

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<v Speaker 3>Leslie University, Wesleyan or did you say Wesley down Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 3>Leslie Well, Leslie.

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<v Speaker 2>Leslie up in Boston. Okay, great, another great school. Keep

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<v Speaker 2>me posted. You're going to have a great career, trust

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<v Speaker 2>me on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Dan, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of talked to you soon. Twenty nine year

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<v Speaker 2>old Nights I caller, we love it. Six one, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>triple eight, nine, ten thirty. Did the Democrats dis President

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<v Speaker 2>Biden last night? Philip Burns Philip Bump, who's a columnist

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<v Speaker 2>for the Washington Post, Sure thinks so, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Keeping him off the stage until nine until

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Bright We're talking politics. I mean, there's really nothing else

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<v Speaker 2>that is a great news value this week in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear from some truly undecided voters, or

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<v Speaker 2>if you decided, tell us why Mike and Beverly Mike

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, damn Mike and the How are you can hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you just fine. You're right ahead, Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>So, as you know, I'm a Trump supporter and I

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<v Speaker 5>have been listening. Dan. You know I don't understand, but

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<v Speaker 5>you can know better than me. Has you ever met

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<v Speaker 5>a time when the situation we're going through where a

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<v Speaker 5>But she can know that right now. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I well, I think you make an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting point. I will tell you that George Bush in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight was a vice president who had won

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<v Speaker 2>had Al Gore in nineteen in two thousand, who ran

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<v Speaker 2>against George Bush, he was a vice president. Neither one

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<v Speaker 2>of them won. You have now Joe Biden didn't run

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty and sixteen. Some people believe that President Obama

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think my position would be on Kamal

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<v Speaker 5>I mean she is quickly we're coming off there not

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<v Speaker 2>You want.

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<v Speaker 5>They will not hire They're going to hide her.

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<v Speaker 2>because of his age and because of COVID. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that she will survive and win as a candidate

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<v Speaker 2>using that strategy. I think it's a different time and

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, how can you do this now with no policy?

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<v Speaker 5>Her website is blank, send me money, but there's no

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<v Speaker 2>Well, part of that, part of it is that the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats really Donald Trump. Democrat do not like Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and you know they they they talk much

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<v Speaker 2>more about the need to defeat Donald Trump than necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>the need to elect Kamala Harris vice president Harris. Although

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<v Speaker 2>obviously if they defeat Donald Trump, they will elect a

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<v Speaker 2>get upset about it. Continue to listen to Nights Out

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<v Speaker 2>and continue to express your opinions.

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<v Speaker 5>I get it. It's just it's common sense, So bun,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it's just that we are probably good

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<v Speaker 5>part of common sense. And if you listen to Bernie

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<v Speaker 5>Savis and I he wants the everything away, like I

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<v Speaker 5>don't understand it, Like I so I want to work

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<v Speaker 5>for free. Think of all my tax moneys away and

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<v Speaker 5>I get nothing back, and it's just it's well, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think that I think that you should

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<v Speaker 2>be a speech writer for Donald Trump, or you should

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<v Speaker 2>be an issues advisor for Donald Trump, because I'm serious,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the issues that he needs to start talking and

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<v Speaker 2>it has to stop. I listened to him. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it was yesterday and he just went on and on,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe it was today. He was in Michigan today

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<v Speaker 2>and there were a couple of police officers standing behind him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just kept repeating himself and going on and

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<v Speaker 2>how this and that. I'm listening to Hie, I'm say

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<v Speaker 2>the mess. I can hear people's minds clicking off, saying

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to listen to that, over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. He's finally getting away from revisiting the

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<v Speaker 2>grievance of twenty twenty. I feel like I'm watching Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. It's what the word going ads means.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to get You know, you were pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good when you were saying medical stuff. But yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just leave it at that. Look, the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 2>you may love him Mike, okay, because of exactly that.

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<v Speaker 2>He says what he means, and he means what he says,

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<v Speaker 2>and he keeps saying the same darn thing. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that's going to be turned off

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<v Speaker 2>by that. Mike, trust me on that his campaign has

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<v Speaker 2>lost momentum in the last three weeks. Uh, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do not see them picking any any momentum up right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's I'm just telling you. I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>horse race. Do you feel better about Trump's campaign? Let

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<v Speaker 2>me ask you this, Do you feel better about your

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<v Speaker 2>candidate's campaign today than you did three weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think there's more for the Democratic because

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<v Speaker 5>they're hiding her so much and then and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just shadowing her around, and there's there's a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Your guy, your guy is not is not bringing it

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<v Speaker 2>to the table. He's not talking about issues, and until

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<v Speaker 2>he starts talking about issues, he's gonna he's bleeding voters

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion. That's I know that's not what you

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear, But I'm telling you what I believe

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<v Speaker 2>to be the truth. That's all.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I get it, I get it, I calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep calling, Okay, that's I have a good one six

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<v Speaker 2>of numbers at you, but let's talk. Let's talk this race.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care which side of the idol you're on here,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about it. And you can be a Trump

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<v Speaker 2>person and criticize Trump, or you can be a Harris

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<v Speaker 2>person and criticized Trump. You can be a Trump person

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<v Speaker 2>criticize Harris. That's whatever you want to do. But all

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<v Speaker 2>you could be undecided, and I I will do a

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<v Speaker 2>quick examination of you, and I will tell you who

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<v Speaker 2>you will vote for. I can predict that who you

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<v Speaker 2>will vote for in November if you're truly undecided. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong, I want you to call me back

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<v Speaker 2>on November fifth or November sixth, then tell me I

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm inviting people who were undecided to join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know that my friend Laurie and Idaho is

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<v Speaker 2>not undecided, at least in my last check. Laurie and

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>That was a good call.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm actually calling because I agree with you about

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<v Speaker 6>the way Biden was treated the other night, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's the way he's been treated, at least publicly

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<v Speaker 2>Me play a sound by which I think is interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is Chris Wallace of CNN, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>you wait to react what Chris Wallace said. Okay, CNN. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Wallace used to be with Fox. But Chris, I

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<v Speaker 2>think was right on the money here this is and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'll agree with him. Got eighteen please Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Wallace last night talking about the feeling inside the

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<v Speaker 2>United Center in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 7>The word that everybody is using to describe tonight as bittersweet,

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<v Speaker 7>just bitter. The fact of the matter, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Biden is bitter, but you know, it's like you've

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<v Speaker 7>been thrown out a window and as you're falling, you go, gee,

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<v Speaker 7>it's nice out here. No, he got thrown out of

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<v Speaker 7>window and basically he was forced. You know, there's gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be a lot of talk tonight about how generous it

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<v Speaker 7>was of him too, and selfless of him. He was

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<v Speaker 7>basically forced out by Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and

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<v Speaker 7>Chuck Schumer and jakeem Jefferies, and I suspect even the

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<v Speaker 7>he left and Kamala Harris took his place. That's got

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<v Speaker 7>to be pretty tough too. You've got thrown out of

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<v Speaker 2>And Jake Tapper, also, I think, is on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a conversation tapperhead last night on seeing it

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<v Speaker 2>with Nancy Pelosi, and I really want you to react

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<v Speaker 2>to this. Here's his fancy Nancy Pelosi with Jack Jake

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<v Speaker 2>Tapper last night. Team Please Rob, it does seem like

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<v Speaker 2>there's some residual back blood or resentment. And I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 8>Spoken to him and and and what your response is

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<v Speaker 8>to that. Sometimes you just have to take a punch

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what you're doing right now. You're just gonna

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<v Speaker 5>Who's right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Interview with me.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe he's showing the punch.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I wouldn't ever, But she doesn't want to fight.

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<v Speaker 8>Nobody wants to have to fight with Nancy Pelosi at

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<v Speaker 8>this time. You know what I have to do. He

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<v Speaker 8>made the decision for the country. My concern is not

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<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a difference without a distinction.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, wouldn't you love to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be on a lifeboat with her with just a one

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, no, it doesn't. And I just when you

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<v Speaker 6>look back, that's the same treatment that he's gotten since.

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<v Speaker 6>true or not.

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<v Speaker 2>But she hasn't spoken to him yet. She as I

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<v Speaker 2>understand it, oh, just.

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<v Speaker 6>Through her little like, you know, wow, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, I'm not a big fan of the

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<v Speaker 6>Biden politics and all that, but I just thought the

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<v Speaker 6>way he got treated was just rude because they abused

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<v Speaker 6>him essentially for three and a half years, propping him

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<v Speaker 6>up and making them do their thing, and then all

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden, oh gosh, well you know what you

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<v Speaker 6>got to go. I'm sure doctor Jill must be having

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<v Speaker 6>a bit of a conniption by now, but I just I, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that was just rude. It's he's old, it's way past

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<v Speaker 6>his bedtime. Let him go on first and do his

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<v Speaker 6>sing and get the heck out of there. And yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with you. I thought that was very very

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<v Speaker 6>unjust and very disrespectful treatment. And these are the same

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<v Speaker 6>group of Democrats we want running our country again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's almost as if it's like a mafia hit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like, you know, it's so like in

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, in The Godfather that you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>you know was very helpful and very useful, and he

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<v Speaker 2>did what people told him to do. But then there

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<v Speaker 2>came a point in time where he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a problem. Uh, and maybe they felt he was

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<v Speaker 2>weak and he was gonna maybe cut a deal, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>work work something out with with the with the the authorities,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, he had to go. He had to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and it does and it just it was they

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<v Speaker 6>they respected him and showed him all the respect until

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<v Speaker 6>all the time that he was not useful anymore, and

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<v Speaker 6>then they were they were absolutely rude about how they

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<v Speaker 6>did it. I mean, he's an old guy, he's a

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<v Speaker 6>feeling guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Mentally.

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<v Speaker 6>It must is, it must really have hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if you run with the big dogs, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>the pack turns on you.

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<v Speaker 6>And it is a pack of wolf hyenas. And I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know whatever else is out there, but wow, America,

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<v Speaker 6>be careful who you vote for.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I know who you're going to vote for. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get on all right, right, talked to you, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my head tonight, Thank you so much, doctor. Good night,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Lourie, good night. Six one seven two thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven nine three one ten thirty. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>the two lines. I lean is in Waltham. I lean

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<v Speaker 2>your next one nights. I'd welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>Good evening. How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great Aileen, thanks for checking in here. Did

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<v Speaker 2>did the Democrats do right by Joe Biden last night? No?

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<v Speaker 6>And I think you made my point and you could

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<v Speaker 6>pay to a mafia hit. I have a question that

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<v Speaker 6>nobody has addressed, and it seems we missed these kind

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<v Speaker 6>of opportunities all the day. Why was the debate in

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<v Speaker 6>June instead of in September.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, what happened that question?

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<v Speaker 6>It puts a whole different line on everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Was a hit. It was a definite hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's what happened if you recall, which is I

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<v Speaker 2>think really interesting. I'd let to know what other people

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<v Speaker 2>think about this. If you remember, one morning in early June,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump had said he was looking forward to debating

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden anywhere, anytime, any place, And one morning the

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<v Speaker 2>White House released a videotape of Joe Biden said, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was very disrespectful to Trump. It was like, hey, Donald,

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<v Speaker 2>you said, anytime, anywhere, any place, I'm ready. Let's do

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<v Speaker 2>it make my day. He used that line the Clint

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<v Speaker 2>Eastwood line, he looked were tough and ready, And within

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<v Speaker 2>an hour CNN had offered the debate stage and Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden had accepted, and then Donald Trump accepted. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 2>remember some of the there was going to be no audience,

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<v Speaker 2>no noteo, yes, and there was going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>strict limit on time. So when someone's time was up,

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<v Speaker 2>it was up. Jake Tapper and Dana Bash treated Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump very respectfully.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I listened to a little bit, but not

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<v Speaker 6>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I watched it as much as I could. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>listened to it because we were just as we played

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's that debate and then we played his acceptance speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Will also play Vice President Harris's acceptance speech on Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 2>so you'll hear it here on Night Side as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is when he came out, he looked

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<v Speaker 2>I looked awful, and he.

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<v Speaker 4>Looked, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>The whole thing, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>He was set up to He was set up. I

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<v Speaker 2>happen to agree with you. He was set up. He

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<v Speaker 2>was set up to fail.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a hit, and I don't think the hit

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<v Speaker 6>began recently. I think this whole scenario was put in

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<v Speaker 6>place back in to sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's good was just a holder.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the hold of that.

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<v Speaker 2>When I lean Aleen, you said to sixteen in to

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen he was. He basically decided.

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<v Speaker 6>He wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he wasn't there, right, he had been vice president of.

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<v Speaker 6>Eight years, and then he came back in Yep, he

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<v Speaker 6>came back into Parent. Everybody saw Philip was going to

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<v Speaker 6>win the Air of Parent and she didn't. And so

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<v Speaker 6>I really believed the powers that be, the control was

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<v Speaker 6>behind the Democratic Party started then saying Okay, what are we.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm agreeing with you, And what I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>say was that in twenty twenty, I think the the

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<v Speaker 2>powers that be in the Democratic Party decided. If you

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<v Speaker 2>remember it, he became the nominee almost overnight. He had

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<v Speaker 2>finished fourth or fifth in New Hampshire, and he flew

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<v Speaker 2>to South Carolina and that Saturday he won decisively in

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina thanks to the help of Congressman James Cliburne

539
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<v Speaker 2>Clive Burne, and immediately Pete Buddhajet flew to South Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>and endorsed him, and I think Amy Claubacher did and

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<v Speaker 2>that race was over. Based upon the South Carolina primary,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a set up as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the.

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<v Speaker 6>Democrats one I really think it's a long term plan

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<v Speaker 6>and as you as you sent you it's a coup.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't use the word coup that day.

547
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<v Speaker 4>Getting rid of Biden others doing them there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she can hear me. There are others who

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<v Speaker 2>have used the word coup. I lean, and we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about that last that last night.

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<v Speaker 6>I really think there's a concern. I think we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to wake up and ask what's really going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's see if people react to what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I Lean, thank you very much for your call.

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<v Speaker 6>The question is why and why and June.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead of in September.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll see what people say. Thank you. I Leen,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your call. Ran good night six one seven two

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<v Speaker 2>five four ten And I think she did a tough

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<v Speaker 2>time hearing me there, so I tried not to be interruptive.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to join the conversation, and I really

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<v Speaker 2>wish you would six one seven, two five four ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. For

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<v Speaker 2>those of you who are interested, Michelle Obama is speaking

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<v Speaker 2>the The husband of the Vice President, Doug M Hoff

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<v Speaker 2>has just spoken, and I suspect that missus Obama is

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<v Speaker 2>about to interview introduce the former president, and again I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're still here in prime time, although it is

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<v Speaker 2>getting a little lighter. But last night, remember Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hit that stage until about ten thirty. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was disrespected last night doesn't really matter at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>He is now in the review mirror for the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it's been a spectacular change, There's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said last winter, I didn't think that we

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<v Speaker 2>were not going to have surprises. I said there would

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<v Speaker 2>be surprises. I did not anticipate that Joe Biden on

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<v Speaker 2>July twenty first would step away. So I'd love to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk politics tonight. You were more than

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to join the conversation. And if you're a new

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<v Speaker 2>call that's great. If you're an undecided caller, if you

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<v Speaker 2>truly aren't decided, I don't think there were too many

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<v Speaker 2>of you who are undecided at this point, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think most of you are either going to be huge

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<v Speaker 2>Trump supporters and vote for Donald Trump because you believe

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<v Speaker 2>in Donald Trump and everything that he represents, or on

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic side, you have been energized. Now you were

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<v Speaker 2>a little reluctant to really throw your weight behind Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden again, but now you're energized.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's also if the is this election I

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<v Speaker 2>think is becoming more and more about Donald Trump, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is the way that Democrats want to

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<v Speaker 2>play it.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>If you agree, wonderful. If you disagree, feel free join

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation back on Nightside right after this quick commercial break.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones we go. Let me go to

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<v Speaker 2>Ross in Denham, Massachusetts. Hey, Ross, welcome, You're next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being great Ross. What's your your question or comment tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Wh are you an gham? And just things? I am

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<v Speaker 4>a first time caller, but I can't lie. I worked no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>no no. I did work for wb Z ready for

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<v Speaker 4>three years. I enjoyed you.

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<v Speaker 2>You worked for BESY how long ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Early nineties?

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<v Speaker 2>Early nineties? Okay, well, I was in TV at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we ever cross paths?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably in the men's room.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what did you do? If I could ask?

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<v Speaker 4>I know I was in the traffic departments to commercial

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<v Speaker 4>commercial operations and then I went back to the enemy

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<v Speaker 4>for thirty years and I just retired.

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<v Speaker 2>So who was the enemy?

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<v Speaker 4>If I could ask Fox TV?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, Okay, that's okay, they're not the enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>Their colleagues right ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah. They grabbed me out of college and I

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<v Speaker 4>went there and buzzed over to BZ and I went

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<v Speaker 4>back to Fox.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, welcome as a first time caller. Do we give

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<v Speaker 2>We got round of applause for you, Thank you Forank Colin.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you undecided in this race or where are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually? I'm confused. In twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, I

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<v Speaker 4>voted for the Libertarian Cicut okay, because Bill Weld was

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<v Speaker 4>on the ticket, Yes he was. Yeah, so I went

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<v Speaker 4>with that route. I couldn't vote for a party, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's not going to work. Okay, excuse me, there's time around.

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<v Speaker 4>My question is to you is I've been looking at

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<v Speaker 4>the U. I guess the four figures behind you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Democrats, Republicans. I didn't know if you had any

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<v Speaker 4>opinion on somebody like Jill Stein.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she's she's the Green Party candidates. He lives in

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<v Speaker 2>Lexington and she got a few votes. You know, these

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<v Speaker 2>third party candidates sometimes actually do surprisingly well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I again. The libertarian candidate in twenty twenty was a

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<v Speaker 2>woman named Joe Jorgenson. She got almost two million votes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a lot of votes, but no electoral votes.

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<v Speaker 2>Jill Stein in twenty sixteen, many people think that she

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<v Speaker 2>cost Hillary Clinton the election. She got almost a million

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<v Speaker 2>and a half votes. Gary Johnson was the libertarian in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, got almost four and a half million votes.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, if you it's those are small votes,

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<v Speaker 2>but they could mean a lot to one of the

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<v Speaker 2>major candidates. So you know, what where are you leaning

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<v Speaker 2>this time? Are you leaning to vote for? You're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote for for Harris or Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>I assume no, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, you're going to find a third What about

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<v Speaker 2>rf K No, no, no, okay, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't mean to laugh, but no, that's that's not gonna happen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>there's another guy out here, I don't know, fever bought him,

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<v Speaker 4>called all the Chase.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the Libertarian candidate. He'll get a million votes

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll have no. I mean, it's a nice vote

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<v Speaker 2>to make if that's what you want to do, But

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna You're not gonna it's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>impact the election.

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<v Speaker 4>No, not, it wonts. But I will ask you this question. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say a bunch of us wrote here. Somebody who

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<v Speaker 4>I do like is uh Christy, Uh, Christy Chase. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>say you're right here, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I missed that?

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<v Speaker 4>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>He's one you're talking about, Chris Christy?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you? The guy from New Jersey. Yeah, thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's not gonna help.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I'll tell you either either Trump

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<v Speaker 2>or Harris will win. Either Trump or Harris will win.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, But my question is if some of us will

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<v Speaker 4>in him, would that helped him get donations if he

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to go run for senator?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean now, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think so. Yeah, yeah, I think ross that again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a you know, the reality is that this country

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<v Speaker 2>is a two party, two party country, unlike the European

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<v Speaker 2>countries which have you know, coalition governments, or Israel, where

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<v Speaker 2>you have seven or eight major parties or minor parties.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, yeah, so you have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in twenty sixteen, you had Joe Stein the

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<v Speaker 2>Green Party, you had Evan McMullan, an independent, uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there are other other groups that that are out

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<v Speaker 2>there too. You know, Gary Johnson was the Libertarian Party

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<v Speaker 2>candidate back then. But again if right, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and again it can make a difference. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>there's a significant vote in one state. Look, George Bush

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<v Speaker 2>never would have beat al Gore if Ralph Nader hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>bet on the ballot. You know how many votes Ralph

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<v Speaker 2>Nader got in Florida in two thousand. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>race in Florida where Bush won by five hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven votes. You how many votes Nader got? But

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<v Speaker 2>take guess, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I do know.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety ninety two thousand, Ross is the answer? Ninety two thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>which what percentage of those votes you think would have

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<v Speaker 2>gone Native's votes would have gone to al Gore as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to George Bush?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, all of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Al Gore would have been the President of United

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<v Speaker 2>States it had not been for Ralph Nator being on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>In California, his followers a spoiler would be lost. Parrot right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Parot had no impact. I mean Perot got no electoral votes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that he costs that have to go

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<v Speaker 2>back and look and see if he be cost George

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<v Speaker 2>Bush Particolah.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure he took photes away from Bush.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I think so. We got nineteen percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the vote. Ross, I got a run. Thank you very

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<v Speaker 2>much for your call. Great to renew an old friendship

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<v Speaker 2>here and keep calling the show. You no reason why

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<v Speaker 2>you can't becoming a second or a third time caller.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thanks well, great night.

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<v Speaker 2>All right you two, here comes the eleven o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk politics on the other side. I love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you. Feel free to join the conversation. You

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<v Speaker 2>have the number six one, seven, two, five, four to

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