WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.560 Are you familiar with the horse, Lady Wonder? 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:11.279 What about the the owner of the horse or I 3 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:12.560 guess do you own a horse? 4 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:13.080 Yeah? 5 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:19.120 Yeah, the horse owner Claudia Fonda or trainer the nah 6 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:23.280 I think it's her horse. I think it's her horse. 7 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:28.079 Should we know her from maybe some other part of 8 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:30.719 part of life business or I. 9 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:32.600 Don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. 10 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:35.840 Like I don't think she's part of the famed Fonda family. 11 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:40.880 But she just she lived in Chesterfield and she had 12 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:51.320 this horse, Lady Wonder. People came from all over the 13 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:55.079 country to see Lady Wonder. 14 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:01.240 And for what reason the horse was psychic? 15 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.760 No, Diane, please don't make a face. Please don't make 16 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:06.519 a face. Please don't make a face. 17 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:07.920 Chesterfield had a psych. 18 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.840 Yes, absolutely, Kristen, Will you do me a favor? Will 19 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:13.879 you see if you could find me anybody who knows 20 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:17.239 of Lady Wonder. I don't care if they live in Chesterfield. Now, 21 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.000 I don't care if they grew up in Chesterfield, I 22 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:20.400 don't care. 23 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:21.879 You know what they may be. 24 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.519 They may be from one of the states where there 25 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:27.000 was I mean, this goes back to nineteen fifty, but 26 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:30.040 were there were people who would travel from all around 27 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:36.040 the country to go see Lady Wonder for psychic reasons. 28 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:37.680 And how did they learn of her. 29 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:42.519 The once word got out bro it took off. Law 30 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.159 enforcement and family used to come. They would come from 31 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:47.680 as far away as Rhode Island to find out like 32 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:48.840 where missing kids were? 33 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:50.799 Are you being serious? 34 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:54.959 Swear to God? And Lady Wonder was able to locate 35 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:55.560 some of them. 36 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:58.760 Did they go into detail about how Lady Wonder was 37 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:00.599 able to give her clues? 38 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.120 Yes, absolutely, thank you for asking. 39 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:10.319 So to my understanding, Claudia Fonda, Claudia Fonda, she kind 40 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:15.199 of made up a almost they call it a makeshift typewriter, right, 41 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:18.680 but the the it was like a big it almost 42 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:22.960 looks like a like a long keyboard, and there were 43 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:27.240 letters on the keyboard. And so they would ask questions 44 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.879 to Lady Wonder, the horse. 45 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:35.360 It's everything I pictured, the scanty times, the no okay, 46 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:38.960 please please, please please. 47 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:40.800 It's like this could be like. 48 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:48.800 Oh really, oh I'm sorry, explain that, Explain that to 49 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.039 the family of Gary Hayman. 50 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:52.240 Is that a missing child? 51 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:55.000 Well not anymore. I mean this goes back to nineteen 52 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.719 fifty two. He was from Rhode Island. They came there 53 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:00.960 to findind out where it is. 54 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.639 So what would Lady Wonder do with this? 55 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:04.639 Thank you? 56 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.599 So anyway, they would ask, so sometimes they would ask. 57 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:12.319 Sometimes they would ask questions, and sometimes Lady Wonder would 58 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.039 just like with her head would just kind of like nod. 59 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:18.879 I swear to God, I am just trying to get 60 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:19.639 through the facts. 61 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:22.280 I am just trying to get through the facts, right, 62 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.919 So no disrespect sometimes. 63 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.800 Well it is, it's actually very disrespectful. 64 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:32.719 Sometimes Lady Wonder, depending on the question, would like nod 65 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.560 or shake her head no, or nod her head yes. 66 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.680 So like I'll just use Gary Hyman Hayman, excuse me. 67 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:45.639 The so they said, is Gary Hayman alive? Well, the 68 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.719 lady Lady Wonder yes, yes, shook her head yes. And 69 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:59.719 they said are they okay? Is he okay? And what 70 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.719 did what did the horse do? Well? 71 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.400 I hope Lady Wonder shook her head yes. 72 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:09.159 No, lady, that's so said that that he's alive. 73 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:13.680 But Lady Wonder used her nose on this makeshift typewriter. 74 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:15.960 So what she would do is each of the keys 75 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.079 had a letter on it yeah, and Lady Wonder would 76 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.959 get her nose underneath the keys and flip them up 77 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.120 like this, flip them up right. 78 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:29.279 I just want an apple. I just I just give 79 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:30.199 me a carrot, please. 80 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:32.920 Well I don't I don't understand why I can't get 81 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.680 through this. So anyway, she get underneath it and flip 82 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.160 it up and flip it up. But in order so 83 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:43.160 you weren't playing like jumble at the end of it. 84 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.360 So with with the Hayman kid. 85 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:46.240 Oh, I see. 86 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:52.120 So first, Lady Wonder nods the head yes, yes, and 87 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:58.600 they said, is is he okay? Lady Wonder, yes, puts 88 00:04:58.600 --> 00:04:59.600 that nose down. 89 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:05.240 Hits a. He flips it up. H okay, second key, 90 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:06.639 head down, flip it up. 91 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:13.560 You flip up the third letter R, flip up the 92 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:18.959 fourth letter t oh, and then stop flipping letters. 93 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:21.560 Damn hurt. 94 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:24.279 I got that, well, thank you. 95 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.000 The horse was able to spell it. I figure you 96 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:29.639 could the How great is that? 97 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:30.839 Now? I will tell you this. 98 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.519 The Lady Wonder, the famous psychic Steed, that's what that's 99 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.959 what they called her, also was able to predict I. 100 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:44.480 Believe Wait, hold up, where was Gary they found him? Yeah? 101 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:44.959 Where was it? 102 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:45.439 Hurt? 103 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.519 Yeah? And you know what years later washed ashore? What 104 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:51.040 the yeah? 105 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:54.360 I mean that's not what I thought the ending of 106 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:55.040 that story was. 107 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:56.759 But was hurt. Now, I will tell you this. 108 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:00.279 There was another kid who had been They couldn't they 109 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:01.839 didn't know if he ran away or anything. 110 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.839 Wait, so he wasn't a lie let me at the time. 111 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:07.879 Yes, but they think at the time that the horse 112 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:09.959 spelled it out. The answer was yes. It wasn't until 113 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:11.560 years later that they found who is. 114 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:12.639 They law enforcement? 115 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.800 Yes, But there was another one where there was a 116 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:17.600 kid that was missing and they wanted to know if 117 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.199 he was abducted or was taken by good people or 118 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:22.480 bad people because they were able to say where the 119 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.160 kid was and so sometimes it would take forever to 120 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.759 spell out Kansas. But they the horse spelled it out. 121 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:32.800 Lady Wonder did And then they said, oh, no, was 122 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:34.759 he taken by good people or bad people? 123 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:39.160 And what did what did? What did? What did Lady 124 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:41.000 Wonder spell out bad? Good? 125 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:41.480 Oh? 126 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.480 Yeah, okay, why would good people abduct somebody? 127 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:45.360 Dumb horse? 128 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.680 No, because they think that like something had happened, like 129 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.079 the child was riding his bike and was in an accident. 130 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:56.720 It's nineteen fifty two, Diane, would they do that? Text them? No, 131 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:57.920 who's dumb? 132 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.720 Now they they drove him, they drove him to. 133 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:06.279 Kansas. 134 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.240 But you haven't answered how this horse became famous. 135 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:13.800 How does anybody? Oh well, I was getting ready to 136 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:14.439 tell you, but you. 137 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.680 Got all call it up on that minor detail out 138 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:17.600 of Rhode Island. 139 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:18.759 Yeah, minor. 140 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:22.480 The horse was able to The horse was able to 141 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:26.759 communicate with Claudia about like what the upcoming weather was 142 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:31.360 going to be. Also correctly predicted who would win the elections. 143 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:34.600 So what do they do, like like fun super Bowl 144 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:35.279 picks back then? 145 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:37.240 Or does that predate the Super Bowl? 146 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:39.439 Seriously? 147 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.800 Wait, like the horse walked around and like crapped on 148 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:47.879 a square and then no they As a matter of fact, 149 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:54.040 I believe nineteen fifty two who ran in fifty two 150 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:58.240 Harry Truman. By the end of nineteen fifty two, President 151 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.920 Harry Truman had won the presidential election, the United States 152 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.800 was sending troops to Korea, and Richmond had begun installing 153 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:10.160 safety systems around its railway, all of which Lady. 154 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.959 Wonder had predicted months prior. 155 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:20.240 So I see a little bit about Lady Wonders early history. 156 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:23.399 By the way, Lady Wonder did readings for over one 157 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:24.959 hundred and fifty thousand people. 158 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:28.759 Did they charge for these? By the way, you. 159 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:30.079 Don't charge for helping people. 160 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.279 Maybe it's a missing child, but for people who just 161 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:36.399 wanted a psychic reading, the I don't know then of 162 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:39.600 the horse, oh, the steed, the psychic. 163 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:43.440 Steel lady wondered, the famous psychic steed put that paper aside. 164 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:48.399 Did you get any history in your article or you're 165 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:54.360 write up about when the horse is born? Well, it's 166 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:55.279 it's category. 167 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:58.279 So there were so let me, you're throwing a lot 168 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.200 of questions at me. Just to do a psychic reading 169 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:07.519 was ten cents, I mean change for inflation, it's like 170 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:08.320 thirty dollars. 171 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.759 But now I will tell you this, by the mid. 172 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:17.080 Nineteen thirties, prices were up to fifty cents for three 173 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:21.559 questions Claudia, and that's when that's when there was some 174 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:26.039 backlash because they thought that Claudia like so they would 175 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:29.399 ask a question, yes, no question, and that Claudia could 176 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.840 do Diane, Claudia could do this and the horse would 177 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:34.759 like raise its head, or she would do that and 178 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:35.759 the horse would say no. 179 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:37.039 So they thought that. 180 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:38.960 There was some she's coaching. 181 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:40.240 No, she wasn't. 182 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:44.480 They accused her of pantomiming the horse, which. 183 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:45.039 Wasn't the case. 184 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:46.320 The horse is just mimicking. 185 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:49.679 I like to use the word pantomiming. Okay, and then 186 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:55.399 but then explain spelling. Now, they said, naysayers, nay sayers. 187 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:58.000 Way, why are you giving us all this? It's ruining 188 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.240 the story to me. No, it was an interesting story 189 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:04.000 until you told me she was No, she wasn't a carnie. 190 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:07.240 No, that's what naysayers would say. 191 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:09.799 They thought that she had somehow trained the horse at 192 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:11.159 which letter to pop up? 193 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:12.799 Not the case at all. 194 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.320 What was the case? Oh, the horse was psychic. 195 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:23.200 Yeah, it's in the name, the famous psychic steed. How 196 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:25.000 have we never heard about the horse? 197 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:25.799 May I read? 198 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:26.919 Yeah? Go ahead. 199 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:30.320 Born in nineteen twenty four, Lady Wonder came from Royalty. 200 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:34.000 This is the horse. Her papers listed her as the 201 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:39.120 granddaughter of a thoroughbred racehorse. Came into Fonda's care as 202 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:39.919 a young Philly. 203 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:43.759 Now keep my Fonda had only ever had like Shetland ponies. 204 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:45.200 She'd never had a thoroughbread. 205 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:48.600 She knew that the brown and white mare with three 206 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.600 white stockings was special in the horses. Early years, Fonda 207 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:55.639 had bottle fed her on whole milk and oatmeal gruel 208 00:10:55.759 --> 00:11:01.639 to maintain her energy and intelligence, nice, Fonda said. As 209 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.960 they've played, Lady began picking up on commands that Fonda 210 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.000 had not yet uttered, prompting her belief that the mayor 211 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:10.320 could read her mind. 212 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:14.240 So instead of saying, I don't I don't know what 213 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:16.679 you train a horse to do. But instead of saying 214 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:21.440 like fetch, like throw the ball and yell fetch, the 215 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:23.840 horse would just start running. She hadn't even thrown the 216 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.720 ball yet. The horse would sit before she would say sit. 217 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.600 M The horse was reading her mind. 218 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.039 So other people would come to see the horse. I 219 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.200 don't know if they were visiting for. 220 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.320 Okay, well there's other people living in Chesterfield, but that 221 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:40.559 horse racing reasons. 222 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.080 No, no, no, it was just to see this magical horse. 223 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:46.360 Yes, but I'm that Chesterfield became Henriiko and then it 224 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.159 became like Ashland, and then it became the country. 225 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.440 But they said that visitors who did not come for 226 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.080 the reasons of its psychic problem, it was just to 227 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.399 see it. They were they noticed things and so, and 228 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:02.440 Fonda picked up on them as well. That created this 229 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:07.080 story of this horse may be something special. 230 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:14.840 They called Lady Wonder the Nostradamus of the twentieth century. 231 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.080 I'm with you. It seems like something that would have 232 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:18.120 been mentioned to us. 233 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.840 I know, how is that the case? Now I had 234 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:25.320 somebody on hold and they couldn't stick with me. Their 235 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:28.080 grandmother had gone to see the horse. No, no, I'm 236 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.960 being serious. Their grandmother had gone to see the horse 237 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.000 for like a but criminal case or just for a reading. 238 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.399 Well that I don't know that. I don't know. 239 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:38.559 Jesus. 240 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:40.840 Do people not know the history of the horse. Do 241 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:41.759 people not even know? 242 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:42.360 Like? 243 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.279 Who do we know from Chesterfield? Hoy? 244 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:47.000 How many people that she was asked about found were 245 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.720 found washed up on the banks of rivers? I see 246 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.320 two more boys here. Yeah, I think the horse might 247 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.840 be involved. No, but keep in mind it wasn't. They 248 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:59.399 didn't that you didn't go see the horse and then 249 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:01.399 text the police department. 250 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.159 There it took time for word to get there. 251 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:05.519 I'm seeing an old picture from back in the day 252 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.399 where there's a bunch of people lined up outside the barn. 253 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:09.960 Yes to get a reading. 254 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:15.120 Yeah, we'll spell ad subtract multiplied divide tells time, answers questions. 255 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.559 Oh, it would do math. I totally forgot about that. Yeah, 256 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:21.960 Lady Wonder would do math. Sometimes, Lady Wonder, they would 257 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.799 have them write the math problem down but not say it, 258 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.879 and lady Wonder what it would give the answer, and 259 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:29.440 then you would see the sheet of paper. 260 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:31.559 Huh. 261 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:37.159 It helped those betting on Pimlico race Course events choosing 262 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.799 twenty eight winning horses, all twenty eight winning horses, and 263 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:47.519 could forecast the location of oil wells as well as 264 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:48.639 their own death age. 265 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.919 How about that? But you know the other thing that's 266 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:52.720 really impressive. 267 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:57.600 They said that on aggregate of every eleven questions that 268 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.240 the horse was asked. 269 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:06.200 For, right, I mean, respectable, respectable, it's a horse. 270 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.759 It's a horse. You ever asked a horse a question? 271 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:10.879 I haven't. 272 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:13.840 By the way, how does Cappie not know this horse? 273 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.039 She's a horse, lady and young? 274 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:18.039 Yeah? 275 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.799 But still, you know what you think she only knows 276 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.360 horses from the time she was alive. 277 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:24.799 I bet she knows horses that date way. 278 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:26.840 Back, but to the fifties. 279 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.360 Oh, I'm sorry, is there a long list of psychic horses? 280 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:32.639 I didn't know that. 281 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:34.559 I only know I only know. 282 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.600 The psychic horses to the seventies. Of course, How does 283 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:40.960 Hobi not know Hoby lives in Chesterfield. 284 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:44.240 Oh here here the horse found a missing dog and 285 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.639 actually found it. It didn't wash up on the banks 286 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:47.120 of a river. 287 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:47.840 Thank you. 288 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:51.399 A Long Island kennel had claimed the dog. Island had 289 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:54.159 claimed the dog had died, faked its grave, and then 290 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:58.080 sold the animal for a prophet through its Florida branch, 291 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:05.159 and the horse helped locate it. Yes, you are right. 292 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.919 The predictions and of eleven they run the gamut. There's 293 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:11.120 a lot of stuff here. 294 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.679 Yeah, but don't they always say for somebody who's a psychic? 295 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:17.080 First of all, has there ever been? Honest question, has 296 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.240 there ever been? And don't start with the tinfoil hats, 297 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:22.639 but has there ever been a psychic? 298 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:23.519 Yep, there you go. 299 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:25.799 There's one idiot the I don't know who that is. 300 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.039 Has there ever been a psychic animal? 301 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.440 And you're not counting the dozens they do roll out 302 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:33.240 during the Super Bowl. 303 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.960 No, that is like, hey, this count took it dump 304 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:37.639 and thinks that the score is going to be this. 305 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:39.159 No, that's not a psychic animal. 306 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.600 Sometimes, like the octopus will swim to a different. 307 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:46.080 Yeah, I like that bit. That's a fun bit. But 308 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.320 this again, this horse is spelling out answers. 309 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.679 Iras says, this is not a good look for horse people. 310 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:55.840 Does not help. 311 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.600 Now there's another link to a different horse called clever 312 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:05.519 Han who was popular during the late eighteen hundreds early 313 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:06.399 nineteen hundreds. 314 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:07.440 He could do math. 315 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.440 No, he could do math and other intellectual tests during 316 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:12.720 exhibitions in Germany. 317 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.039 Explain how explain how this horse? 318 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:15.279 Wait? 319 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.879 Forget the eighteen hundreds, the nineteen fifties. We have people 320 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.320 that were alive. We have people listening that were alive 321 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:24.240 in nineteen fifty and if they weren't, their parents were 322 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:28.879 or their grandparents were. So this isn't like, oh this 323 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:31.679 goes this is old timey. This is during their lifetimes 324 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:36.679 or their parents' lifetimes. How's a horse do math? That's 325 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.919 not a setup to a joke. I'm asking how does 326 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:39.759 a horse do math? 327 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.200 Well? Can I read one sentence that the skeptics often 328 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.000 pointed to Go ahead, Political races always carry a fifty 329 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:50.320 percent chance of accuracy. 330 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:52.360 Here we go, so you always have a fifty percent 331 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:53.120 chance of being right. 332 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:56.039 I have to read the second part. And drowning was 333 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.360 one of the leading causes of death of children in 334 00:16:58.360 --> 00:16:59.279 the nineteen fifties. 335 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.879 Odds. 336 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:10.319 Ah, does Claudia Fonda have any family that remains in 337 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:11.279 the Richmond area? 338 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:13.920 I would bet why not? 339 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:15.599 No, No, I would bet too. 340 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:16.160 Yeah. 341 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:18.960 I don't know how old Claudia Fonda was in the fifties. 342 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:20.759 I mean she'd be an older woman. 343 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:25.480 Now you think she's in her nineties. Do you think 344 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.519 she was in her twenties and the fifties, I don't know. 345 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.640 I have no idea. I don't have an age on her. 346 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:31.759 I know the horror picture, say, get. 347 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:32.880 You a picture of her with the horse. 348 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:36.319 No, but I do have this. 349 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:38.480 I have one. She was pretty old back then. 350 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.200 Mother asked horse to help find her son, talking animal 351 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:43.720 furnishes clue. 352 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:46.160 The hollist didn't talk, It talked through spelling. 353 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:48.440 Now it's mister ed. 354 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:53.759 This picture from nineteen fifty two shows Claudia Fonda probably 355 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.559 looking to be in her sixties. 356 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:59.160 I would say, okay. 357 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:02.279 But you don't think she's got offspring. 358 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:03.720 That's what I'm saying. 359 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:06.359 I would be surprised if she didn't have people still 360 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:07.559 in Chesterfield, yes. 361 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.480 Or I mean just anywhere, yeah, anywhere. How do people 362 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:13.799 not know this story? 363 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.799 This seems right up Hoby's Alley. 364 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.440 By the way, doesn't al Towyda live in Chesterfield? Doesn't 365 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:24.400 or did he used to live in Chesterfield. 366 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:29.559 I love the story, which is why I'm bothered that 367 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.079 it doesn't seem like anyone knows about him. 368 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:36.240 No, and that bothers me. I feel like this story 369 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:41.519 should be very well known and celebrated. 370 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:44.160 I'm reading more about it. 371 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:48.200 I got a psychic horse, Gary Hayman. Yeah. 372 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:49.559 Did you read his story though? 373 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:52.160 Was that the one that she predicted? 374 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.799 Well, that was the one that said hurt, hurt, Yeah. 375 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:59.599 Yeah, Yeah. He ran away from school. That's all. I mean, 376 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:00.240 that's all. 377 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.279 I remember a school for the feeble minded, which it 378 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:04.799 was sound. 379 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.079 Ye, I don't even know what that is. That's that's 380 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:12.160 clearly not gifted and talented now like. 381 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:18.119 He did not speak as a toddler because of an illness, 382 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.559 escaped to the school for the feeble minded. This was 383 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:24.799 up in Rhode Island and was last seen running into 384 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:28.079 the woods when his clothes were found neatly piled beside 385 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:31.720 a small stream. A few weeks after, local police gave up, 386 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.680 but his mother clung to the notion he was still alive. 387 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.000 With little help from the police, who deemed him just 388 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:43.119 a runaway from the feeble minded school and no clues 389 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:47.200 to go on, Hayman began her own search. Her quest 390 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:50.640 found her placing a call to the Richmond Times Dispatch 391 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:57.319 reporter Bill mckilwaine, and the following morning, the kil Wayne 392 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.799 was traveling down a dirt road off of Petersburg turnbike, 393 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.119 slinging up dust and gravel as went as he pulled 394 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:05.200 into the driveway of Fonda's farmhouse. 395 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:10.200 So the actual reporter mcelwaine, what's his name whatever, went 396 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:14.680 to go ask the horse very good line six, Hi, 397 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:15.519 yellie of the morning? 398 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:18.039 Is this me? 399 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:18.480 Yeah? 400 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:18.680 Hi? 401 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:23.839