WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.040 Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. The Kamala Catastrophe is coming 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:07.480 today at noon on fifty five KRC the Talk Station, 3 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:12.439 and now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on 4 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:21.000 fifty five KOs the Talk Station. I'll right. 5 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:31.760 Five five in the morning. I hope your Monday morning 6 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:35.560 is going as well as mine is. Not only do 7 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:38.280 I get to sit in the chair today for Brian 8 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:41.719 and do the show, but it is an absolute gorgeous 9 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:46.320 morning out there. Nice Chris on the chili side but 10 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:49.560 not too bad. And the drive up here was fantastic. 11 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:52.119 I had a great weekend. I hope you did too. 12 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:56.280 We had some family come in unexpectedly for the weekend. 13 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:59.880 I was we were going to go up Now this 14 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.079 it's weird. I there is, you know, the fall festivals 15 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:06.239 and stuff all around the area. In the summertime, there's 16 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.120 a bunch of local festivals that we usually go to, 17 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:11.959 and those are more local, but when it comes to 18 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.359 the fall, there's these fall festivals that are in different 19 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.920 parts of the area and so on. Down in Augusta 20 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.120 they have the Turning of the Leaves festival and then 21 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.159 they have the Wolf Festival down in Falmouth, Kentucky and 22 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:29.280 Sauerkraut festival up in Waynesville, and there's a little farm 23 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:33.079 over in central Indiana. Take about two don't about two 24 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.239 hours to get there. It's if I can get this. 25 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:40.280 Steam Cliff Farms supposedly one of the oldest farms in Indiana. 26 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.760 And I had a fall festival and so on, and 27 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.760 it's great to go to these and it's always interesting, 28 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:48.040 and I looked at it from the standpoint of number one, 29 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.680 it's fun. But as I've talked about numerous times on 30 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:55.519 the air, is that when you're doing talk shows and 31 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.200 of course doing America's Truck and Network like I've been doing, 32 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.680 and maybe aware of that, but if you're not, I 33 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:08.199 am Tuesday through Friday twelve am to one am, and 34 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:12.879 so either you're on the air or you're doing show 35 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.319 prep and you're always looking around for something that's going 36 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:20.800 to give you an idea or something, you know, kind 37 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.159 of some sort of a trend that you're picking up 38 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.759 on when you go to a restaurant or something. All 39 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:28.080 kinds of show topics out there, just you got to 40 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.960 pay attention. And one of the things that I saw 41 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:33.120 as a result of going to some of these festivals 42 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.159 was kind of a getting an idea on the economy. Now, 43 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:40.319 this past weekend we were going to go up to Circleville, 44 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:43.759 Ohio to the Pumpkin Festival up there. Now this is 45 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.879 odd because I have not been to the Pumpkin Festival, 46 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:51.520 I want to say, in at least fifty years. So 47 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:54.960 almost every year I say, you know, we're gonna go, 48 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.479 We're gonna go, We're gonna go, but something happens. And 49 00:02:57.560 --> 00:02:59.639 this year we said, all right, we're gonna go up 50 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:01.800 and this is what's going to happen. Well, we got 51 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.080 a phone call on Thursday and family was coming in 52 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.240 and said, okay, you know, all right, so we'll put 53 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.159 that off. But the weekend got kind of weird and 54 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:12.400 so not weird, but we just couldn't get up there. 55 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.960 But in going up to Waynesville and the Wolf Festival 56 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:20.520 and some of these other festivals, it's interesting talking to 57 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:25.280 the vendors and hearing what they have to say. And 58 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.199 in several instances in talking to these vendors, it was 59 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.919 this is probably one of the worst years I've ever 60 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:40.319 had at filling the Blank Festival. And I said, is 61 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.680 there a particular reason? Is there? What do you think, 62 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:48.280 and he goes, and he she whatever. Any of the 63 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:52.400 vendors would say, it's the economy. People just do not 64 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.840 have that extra money. And that extra money is what 65 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.159 they call discretionary income. You know, after you get your paycheck, 66 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.400 after you've paid your bills, after you've done all the 67 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:06.919 different obligations and so on, it's the money that's left 68 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:12.120 over that you have for recreational use. Now the economy, 69 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:16.600 since the pandemic, people were shut in, they were doing 70 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.680 a lot of home improvement. They were doing a lot 71 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.800 of stuff around the house, which, on the bright side, 72 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:24.120 if you want to look for a silver lining, I 73 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.879 think a lot of people have much more appreciation for 74 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.120 their homes. But they had to set aside a certain 75 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.199 area for them to work because they're working from home. 76 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:35.360 And then of course, having you know, you can't do 77 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:37.519 anything else. So I guess I'll go work on the yard, 78 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:39.879 I'll you know, build a deck, or I'll do something 79 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.480 along those lines. And we saw the home improvement business 80 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.399 and the big box stores and so on doing very well. 81 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.399 But because a lot of people either appliance wise or 82 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.279 took some of that stimulus money and said, oh well, 83 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:56.560 I've got an income interest rates are low. I not 84 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:59.040 only have an income, but I have this, I have 85 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.759 these stimulus checks. I'm going to upgrade a house and 86 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:05.600 move to a new house. And so when they did that, 87 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:08.120 of course you've got to buy new equipment. You've got 88 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:13.319 to buy new furniture fixtures, some new appliances, and so on. 89 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.879 So a lot of that has been front loaded into 90 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:21.279 that twenty twenty one ish, twenty twenty two and so on. 91 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:23.959 And then of course with the supply chain issues and 92 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.120 so on, people were having issues as far as some 93 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:29.439 of the things they wanted to buy. We saw what 94 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.480 happened to use car prices. Of course, in the trucking industry, 95 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:36.399 the truck used truck prices went out of sight because 96 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:40.480 of the factories being shut down and so on. And so, 97 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:47.120 once the plandemic ended and things started getting back to normal, 98 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.639 people said, all right, we're gonna start enjoying ourselves. We're 99 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:54.079 gonna get out. We're gonna go to restaurants, we're gonna bars, 100 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.279 we're gonna go to football games. We're gonna go to 101 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.759 baseball games. We're gonna go to plays, we're gonna go 102 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:01.680 to movies. We're gonna travel, We're going to do, you know, 103 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:03.639 all the fun stuff that we haven't been able to 104 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.519 do for the last couple of years. And so you've 105 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:11.480 seen throughout the economic numbers where people's spending habits have 106 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:18.920 kind of shifted more from the goods, the items, tangible items, 107 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.399 to more fun items, which in tangible eating out and 108 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.680 that type of thing. And in talking to these vendors, 109 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:27.439 they say that, you know, a lot of people are 110 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:29.600 maxed out, and we've seen this in the economy. We've 111 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.439 seen this in the numbers. People are maxed out as 112 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:38.600 far as their credit cards are concerned. Their interest rates 113 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.720 are higher if they've got credit card debt, then the 114 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:44.199 interest rate on that with the higher interest rates that 115 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:47.639 we've been experiencing record high, well at least the highest 116 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.240 interest rates in the last twenty years or so. And 117 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.920 then we're seeing inflation. Back in June of twenty twenty two, 118 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.519 we saw inflation hit nine point one percent and now 119 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:01.399 inflation is down around two percent, two point four to 120 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:06.000 two point five thereabouts. But what people forget or you know, 121 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:10.160 it's the well, when you hear the spoon fed regurgitators 122 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:13.519 in the mainstream media talk about it, it's like, oh, well, 123 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.120 inflation is down. Inflation, you know, from the inflation from 124 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:21.120 last month to this month is level. There was no inflation. Well, 125 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:25.319 that forgets the fact that when you have inflation one 126 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:29.000 month that goes up to four percent, the following month 127 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.920 goes up to five percent, when it goes up to 128 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.279 five percent, it didn't drop down to zero and then 129 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:39.079 hit five percent that month. It was four percent and 130 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.000 five percent on top of that. So when you have 131 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:47.240 the cumulative effect of those inflationary pressures over the last 132 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:50.279 three and a half years, all of a sudden, you're 133 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:53.600 looking at stuff like eggs at forty seven percent higher, 134 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.439 most grocery items at twenty one percent or more, and 135 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:01.000 depending upon what you buy. As far as GRoWES are concerned, 136 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.920 those are extremely high. When you look at the cost 137 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:06.759 of eating out up twenty five percent and in some 138 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:10.839 cases forty percent. And these numbers that we're seeing from 139 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.120 the federal government or when they do these issues in 140 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:17.920 terms of what the inflation rate is, where the inflation is, 141 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:21.759 and what certain items in that inflation have gone up, down, 142 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:25.839 or whatever, I'm not so sure that those are one 143 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:29.199 hundred percent accurate because when you go into the store 144 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.080 and if I don't know if you're like me, but 145 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:36.039 I being a numbers guy, recovering accountant and all I 146 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:40.559 pay attention to grocery items. I mentioned on this program 147 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:43.399 before that my father was a food broker, which was 148 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.080 a manufacturer's representative. He represented different companies and he'd go 149 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:51.200 to these buyers at Kroger IgA and you know, the 150 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:56.120 different wholesale distributors, and would pitch the products that he 151 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.840 was representing to get placement on their shelves. And he 152 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.440 always did the grocery shopping, and so on Saturday, he'd 153 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:05.799 go up to the Kroger store and just you know, 154 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.080 not only do the grocery shopping, but also kind of 155 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:12.600 pay attention to where his products were shelf placement or whatever, 156 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:16.519 so that he could then talk to the wholesale people 157 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.440 and see if he couldn't get either more facings or 158 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.360 more better placement on the shelves, maybe eye level or 159 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.240 something which is the best. And so I used to 160 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:29.600 go to the I used to go grocery shopping with him, 161 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:32.399 and we talk about things, and we'd talk about, you know, 162 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.919 how to look for lettuce and all those sort of things, 163 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.279 which you know helps me out now. But I love 164 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.399 grocery shopping. I think I'm one of the few guys 165 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:42.720 and few people that love grocery shopping. I love seeing 166 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.039 the stuff. And then of course I pay attention to 167 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:47.600 the prices. When we go to the grocery store. We're 168 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:50.440 always trying to find the deals that are on sale. 169 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.080 We'll try to you know, where we live. We can 170 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.159 hit we can hit Aldi, we can hit Meyer, we 171 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:00.480 can hit Walmart, we can hit Kroger, we can I 172 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:04.000 think I Remke and a couple of others. So we've 173 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.799 got a myriad of different places we can shop at. 174 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.240 And depending upon where we're heading, if we're heading north, south, east, 175 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:13.039 or west, we put together our list and okase, if 176 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:14.879 we're going to be down in that neighborhood, will stop 177 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:16.960 in the grocery store and pick up these four or 178 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.559 five items that are on sale. And then if we're 179 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.840 at another location, we'll do that. And so when I 180 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:24.919 look at what we save, and of course I pay 181 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.159 attention to the prices and stuff. I mean when you 182 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:31.039 look at just I'll just pull out an item Helman's mayonnaise. 183 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.519 Helman's mayonnaise. You used to be able to get that one. 184 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.960 It was on sale for two ninety nine now that 185 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:42.759 is on sale now it is three ninety nine, So 186 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.720 that's gone up at least twenty five percent. But when 187 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.600 you look at the normal retail price that used to 188 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.240 be around three forty nine threes and it's up to 189 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.919 six bucks for one of those things my coffee I 190 00:10:55.720 --> 00:11:00.879 drink folder's black silk that used to be around at 191 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.279 nine dollars at one point, then it got up to 192 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.799 eleven ninety nine, and I'd wait till it go on 193 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.399 sale at six ninety nine and stock up. Now that 194 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:12.600 number instead of eleven ninety nine is up to thirteen 195 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:16.960 ninety nine the everyday price. And so those prices, and 196 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.320 depending upon what you're buying at the grocery store, may 197 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.799 have gone up. Instead of the twenty one percent overall 198 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.200 average that they're looking at, your prices, the items that 199 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:31.080 you buy on a regular basis maybe twenty five thirty 200 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:34.360 percent higher than what they are. And of course this 201 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:37.840 is what why this election is so important, and one 202 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:39.519 of the things that they talk about how do you 203 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.879 get inflation down? And one of the things that I've 204 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.279 been paying attention to on America's Truck and Network is 205 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:47.919 the fact of energy prices and we'll talk about that 206 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:51.759 coming up. Phone number seven four nine fifty five hundred one, 207 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:53.879 eight hundred eight two three Talk one eight hundred eight 208 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:56.679 two three eight two five five pound five point fifty 209 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.720 AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian 210 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.960 tom Mus fifty five KR. See the talk station who 211 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:13.679 voted five point twenty in the morning. Kevin Gordon in 212 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.279 for Brian Thomas fifty five KR. See the talk station. 213 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.559 Phone number is seven five one three, seven four nine 214 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.279 fifty five hundred one eight hundred eight two three talk 215 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:25.360 one eight hundred eight two three eight two five five 216 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:29.080 pound five point fifty on your AT and T wireless phone. 217 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.639 I was so excited about talking about the weekend and 218 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.480 what's been going on and getting into the show, I 219 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:38.759 neglected to tell you what we have on tap today, 220 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.000 you know, cart before the horse here. As you know, 221 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.320 every time I'm on I usually put on Facebook what 222 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:48.919 I'm gonna have in terms of guess wise and so on, 223 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.039 and today is no different. And uh, pretty much between 224 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.279 now and six twenty five, it's going to be you, 225 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:57.519 me and the phones. Uh what I like to refer 226 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:01.159 to as news and views, And you know, I may 227 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.159 offer an opinion or two depending upon the situation and 228 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:08.120 so on. And so at six point thirty, I've got 229 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:11.639 Phil Flynn. He is a senior market analyst with Price 230 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.039 Futures Group, author of the Energy Report, and contributor to 231 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.559 Fox Business Network. We'll discuss a wide range of political 232 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:21.039 and energy issues. This guy, I got to tell you 233 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:26.000 his Energy Report on a daily basis. I refer to 234 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:32.039 that on america'struck A Network. And it is amazing that 235 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.440 you know, when you read something and you realize that, hey, 236 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:39.000 this guy and I we think alike. And so I 237 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:40.759 just picked up the phone and called him. And he's 238 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:44.399 been a guest several times. But it's not just the 239 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:48.759 energy markets. It's just not commodities. It's his insight into 240 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:51.960 political things in terms of what's going on as far 241 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.879 as the energy sector, but of course what's going on 242 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.279 in the Middle East and so on. So we'll be 243 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:00.000 talking about that in the seven at seven to twelve, 244 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:04.399 we're gonna be having a Christopher Smitherman with the smither 245 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.919 Vent at eight twenty or eight h five. Rather, we're 246 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:11.759 gonna be talking with Attorney Stephen Doane. We're gonna be 247 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.720 he's an attorney and then also a Kentucky state representative. 248 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.559 We'll discuss the Kentucky's Constitutional Amendment too. Now, I understand 249 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:24.279 Brian talked about that with Jim Waters on Thursday of 250 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:27.399 last week, but I think Steve may have. And hopefully 251 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:29.720 we'll come up with a couple of things, because in 252 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.440 the people that I've talked to, there seems to be 253 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.519 people that I would have thought that would have been 254 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:40.480 for this. They're raising questions that I hadn't heard brought 255 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.720 up before, and I think Brian covered a lot of 256 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.159 those on Thursday. But there's a couple of things I 257 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.559 need to ask this attorney, and of course he's a 258 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.120 state representative, so he'd be aware of that. And then 259 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.840 of course at eight p forty we'll have somebody from 260 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:57.559 the Cincinnati VA. So we've got all that on tap 261 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.960 here now. In the previous segment I was talking about 262 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:04.039 I was talking about the inflation and so on, and 263 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:06.320 you know, you see these numbers and they see the 264 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:08.960 inflation rate and they tell you what the inflation rate is. 265 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.879 And that's done using on a monthly basis and at 266 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:15.919 the end of the month, and then the quarterly basis 267 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:19.240 and so on, and then they revise those numbers and 268 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:21.799 come up with the number, and of course the Federal 269 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:25.000 Reserve looks at that, and of course they not only 270 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.399 look at the consumer price index, but they also look 271 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:31.480 at the personal consumption expenditures, which is more in line 272 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:34.559 of the gauge that they look at to determine where 273 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.200 inflation is. And you have you know, you've heard these 274 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:42.320 terms before. You've heard a consumer price index, and you've 275 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:46.519 heard core consumer price index and generally just kind of 276 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.759 give you a brief idea there. The core is if 277 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:54.240 you pull out energy and food out of that inflation 278 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.759 number to come up with inflation. Because in terms of 279 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:00.320 the way accountants look at things, they want to see 280 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.000 things on an even keel. They want to have a 281 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.679 comparison from one month to another, one year to another, 282 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.360 one quarter to another, and anything that's volatile in between. 283 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:16.440 You have to explain that in your financial statements and reporting. 284 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.559 And so you want to keep all the extraordinary items 285 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.320 to a minimum, but if they happen, you report those 286 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.480 separately so that you can see a straight line or 287 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:27.639 a little bit of increase here and there. As far 288 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:31.080 as your income, your revenue, and then your expenses. You 289 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:32.759 don't want to see them get out of whack and 290 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:35.039 so on. So when you look at those and the 291 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:39.759 trend there, but because energy and gas prices are always 292 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:43.919 volatile that and food is volatile depending upon the season, 293 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.960 they pull those out and so you look at both 294 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:50.039 of those numbers to see what's going on. Generally, what 295 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:54.279 happens in the normal times, you will see the core 296 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:59.679 inflation number be down, and because you throw back in 297 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:05.880 energy and food, that pushes that inflation rate up. Now, 298 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:09.599 with energy kind of coming down and food prices leveling out, 299 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:12.599 the other items are up. And when you look at 300 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:18.640 the overall inflation number, when you strip out and get 301 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.160 to the core, that number actually comes and goes up 302 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.000 because of taking out the energy, because energy has been falling. 303 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.240 And so the personal consumption expenditures is what the FED 304 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.920 usually looks at, which kind of puts more in line 305 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.240 of what you spend your money on on a daily basis, 306 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:39.759 weekly basis, and so on. Because you don't always go 307 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.400 out and buy a refrigerator, you don't always go out 308 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.799 and buy a computer. You're generally buying food. You're generally 309 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.559 putting gas in your car or diesel in your truck, 310 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:53.079 or clothing and normal staples. So when they look at 311 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.000 what people are spending their money on, that's when they 312 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.519 look at those numbers and say, all right, based on 313 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.519 the personal consumption expend here's what that inflation number is. 314 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.400 And getting back to what I was talking about, as 315 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.680 far as the individuals at these stores at these festivals 316 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:12.440 are concerned, they're telling me that people just do not 317 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:17.160 have that kind of disposable income anymore. They were talking 318 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.240 about how you know, if you look at the food 319 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.079 vendors there, they were, I mean a lot of places 320 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:24.880 were selling out of the food that they had. People 321 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.680 were enjoying that. If you had certain of like a 322 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.640 honey booth, or you had small items and that type 323 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.640 of the little craft things, those were doing well. But 324 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.160 anything that would what you would consider what I would consider, 325 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.640 because you know, anything over one hundred bucks to me 326 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.480 is kind of a luxury item if you're you know, 327 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:48.559 buying an accessory or you're buying like an artwork thing 328 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:50.839 at one of these festivals. I'm not talking about overall 329 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:53.680 art work, but something at one of these festivals. Any 330 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.799 time you spend more than one hundred bucks, to me, 331 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.319 that is a luxury item. And so a lot of 332 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:02.559 the item that will quote luxury items that I will 333 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:05.720 stop off their booth. Their sales were horrendous, So that 334 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:08.559 kind of gives you a microcosm what's going on in 335 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:12.440 this in the economy right now, and what is going 336 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:14.839 on and why this election is so important, and of 337 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:17.160 course we'll talk about that coming up. Phone number seven 338 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:20.160 four five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred one, 339 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.599 eight hundred eighty two three talk one eight hundred eighty 340 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:25.279 two three eight two five five pound, five point fifty 341 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:28.559 AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, 342 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:42.279 fifty five k see the Talk station. Five point thirty 343 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:44.359 one in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, 344 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:47.880 fifty five carosee the talk station. Let's look at some 345 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:50.400 of the local headlines that we're following for you this morning. 346 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:53.720 Since Hey. Police responded to a Walnut Hills High School 347 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:58.200 Sunday evening following reports of shots fired during a pee 348 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:03.920 wee football game. Are you serious? According to police on scene, 349 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:06.720 two adult men got into an argument after the children's 350 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:09.640 football game had ended. Police said that the two men 351 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.039 began to fight before one man pulled out a gun 352 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.640 and started shooting. Police said that two adults were shot. 353 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.880 One victim is in serious condition, while the other suffered 354 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:22.759 a non life threatening injury. No children were harmed as 355 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.640 a result of the shooting. Police are still searching for 356 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:28.680 a suspect at this time. Well, I guess this guy 357 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:31.279 won't be invited back. And what are we going to do? 358 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:34.559 Install metal detectors at pee wee football games? Now for 359 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.279 crying out loud, let's see. Water main break collapse is 360 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.079 part of s spring Grove Avenue. That's not gonna that's 361 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:44.440 gonna leave a mark. Water main break on spring Grove 362 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:47.480 Avenue in Camp Washington caused part of the roadway to 363 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:50.640 collapse in on itself. According to the Police Department. The 364 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:53.720 water main break happened around two am in the twenty 365 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.160 four hundred block of Spring Grove Avenue at the intersection 366 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:00.279 of Draper Street. The water main break collapse part of 367 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.599 the street and partially shut down traffic to the Western 368 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:06.200 Hills Viaduct. As of Sunday afternoon, Cruise was still out 369 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.680 working on the water main break. Traffic had been slowed 370 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:11.599 to one lane in each direction on Spring Grove Avenue. 371 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.960 So hopefully they'll get that fixed pretty soon, and of 372 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.720 course they've been following this. Over the weekend, there was 373 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:24.119 Indiana State Police shot and killed of somebody at the 374 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:27.960 Hollywood Casino in Lawrenceburg. One man was shot and killed 375 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.920 by a police officer early Saturday morning in the Hollywood 376 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:37.079 Casino in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. Indiana State Police said Lawrenceburg Police 377 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:40.559 Department responded to the casino around one am for reports 378 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.839 of a man threatening and chasing another person with a 379 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:46.799 knife on the fourth floor of the casino hotel. I 380 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:50.240 thought P. Diddy was in jail. I didn't think he 381 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:54.440 got work release or anything. Three let's see. The three 382 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:57.039 officers then learned that the man had begun firing a 383 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.480 gun on the fourth floor, and they located the man 384 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:01.839 in the hallway in the na State Police said the 385 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.079 officer told the man to drop the handgun, but the 386 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:08.640 suspect began shooting instead. Officers returned fire and the suspect 387 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:12.359 was struck at least once. The suspect died at the scene. 388 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.599 His identity has not been revealed yet. One person the 389 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:19.039 suspect confronted with a knife sustained minor injuries before the 390 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.160 officers arrived. All three officers involved in the shooting have 391 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:27.039 been placed on administrative leave per Lawrenceburg Police protocol. ISP 392 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.279 said the identities of the officers are being withheld at 393 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:34.720 this time. ISP said its investigation is ongoing. ISP has 394 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.559 been assisted by the Lawrenceburg Fire Department or Police Department, 395 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:43.759 Dearborn and Ohio County Prosecutor's Office, Dearborn County Corners Office, 396 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:51.240 and Hollywood Casino Hotel and staff. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm 397 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:56.680 sure that a lot of these items, well, the shootings especially, 398 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.480 I would guess that the Hollywood Casino, there are probably 399 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:04.160 some little bit of alcohol involved there. So anyway, coming up, 400 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:06.000 we're going to be talking a little bit more about 401 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.279 this inflation number and what's going on as far as 402 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:12.079 the economy. Your phone calls take those as well. Eric 403 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:14.960 Eric code five one three, seven four nine fifty five 404 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.240 hundred one, eight hundred eighty two three talk one eight 405 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:20.000 hundred eighty two three eight two five five pound, five 406 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:22.960 point fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in 407 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.480 for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR see the talk station. 408 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.920 Cybersecurity Awareness Month is still good. 409 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.119 Five thirty nine in the morning, Kevin Gordon in for 410 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.000 Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the talk station phone 411 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.519 number is five one three seven four nine fifty five 412 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:45.880 hundred one eight hundred eight two three talk one eight 413 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.640 hundred eight two three eight two five five pound five 414 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.319 point fifty AT and T wireless phone. You know, we're 415 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.680 talking a little bit about inflation and so on, what's 416 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.559 causing that? And you know, if you watch the debates, 417 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.440 if you watch the vice presidential debates, and if you 418 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:03.480 watch the presidential debate, or if you listen to any 419 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:08.039 of the word salad interviews that Kamala Harris has had, 420 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:10.319 one of the questions is is you know, what are 421 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.039 you going to do about inflation? What are you going 422 00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:14.119 to do about this? And all we hear about is 423 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:18.599 price gouging, or price gauging as she calls it, which 424 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:23.799 is BS because you may recall years ago when the 425 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:27.519 Biden administration came into office and gas prices started going up, 426 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:31.759 oil prices started going up, and they started talking about, oh, well, 427 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.240 the oil companies last year made record profits and so on, 428 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.279 and we're going to do a congressional investigation into that, 429 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.079 because I'm sure that there is price fixing and gouging 430 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:45.000 and so on every time the US government does that. 431 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.599 Every time a governmental agency looks at that, well, I'd 432 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:51.720 say mostly ninety percent of the time or more. There 433 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.000 is no price gouging. It's just a headline grabber to 434 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.480 make the people think that you've got their back and 435 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.759 that you're looking into something. And what came out immediately 436 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:04.319 the oil companies fired back and said, hey, you know, yeah, 437 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:07.599 we made record profits last year because of the rise 438 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:11.039 in oil prices, but did you look at our bottom 439 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.559 line the previous two years when we lost that billions 440 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.720 and billions of dollars and that when you look at 441 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.440 that over a three year period of time, we're actually 442 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:23.440 up only, like you know, less than ten percent in 443 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:27.319 terms of not up ten percent, but our profit is 444 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:30.720 ten percent of what our sales are. And when you 445 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:34.079 look at a company and you think of the investor 446 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:37.240 investing in that, Okay, let's say you've got a pile 447 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.319 of money and you can do whatever you want with that, 448 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.160 and you think, oh, I think I'll go start a business. 449 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.279 If you're going to go out and start a business, 450 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:50.480 would you start a business with all the headaches, all 451 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:54.880 the brick and mortar, the employee expenditures, the cost of 452 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:59.359 the inventory, or whatever the business is, and get a 453 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:04.599 seven percent bottom line, a seven percent profit. You could 454 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.240 take that money and put it in the stock market 455 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:10.240 or a mutual fund, or buy real estate or do 456 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.400 something that is less of a headache if you're only 457 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.319 going to get a seven percent return on your investment. 458 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.519 And so what you generally do if you're going to 459 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.559 start a business, you're looking for something that is going 460 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.200 to bring you a fairly decent return on your investment, 461 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.400 and most people are looking for something in the minimum 462 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.000 of ten percent. A lot of people go in in 463 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.519 these high risk certain things and go for maybe a 464 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.240 fifteen to twenty five percent investment, but then a lot 465 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:43.519 of times they'll lose money as well. But to go 466 00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.160 through all the headaches, when you look at the grocery stores, 467 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.920 their bottom line is one point two to one point 468 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.119 six percent margin that they're working on. Who's going to 469 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.880 go into a business like that. Now, granted, you make 470 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.960 up a lot of that in volume and stuff, because 471 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:02.359 one point six percent profit on this particular item or thereabouts. 472 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.559 When somebody goes in there and buys ten, fifteen, twenty items, 473 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.079 those numbers add up. But it's all based on a 474 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.759 volume basis. Type of situation and not an individual item. 475 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.160 And so this price gauging that the Kama keeps talking 476 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.920 about is nuts. Where you need to do is start 477 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.440 looking at the oil prices and the energy prices. And 478 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:24.519 I'll tell you what. Let's go to the phones here 479 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:26.720 real quick, and let's talk to Dirk. Dirk fifty five. 480 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.079 K see Dick. I'm sorry, Dick. How are you this morning? 481 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:31.400 Morning? 482 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:31.839 Kevin? 483 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:35.240 It's you. I did not oh Dick from date and 484 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.240 I didn't have the I guess I should put my 485 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.279 glasses on so I can read the fine print here. Okay, 486 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:41.839 how the heck are you this morning? 487 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:46.200 Okay, how are you? I'm good After that Bengals victory. 488 00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.839 Huh yeah, I'm about that. You know, go out and 489 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:50.400 buy your Super Bowl tickets. 490 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.599 Yeah, they've they've done pretty good the last couple games. 491 00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.079 But boy, it's gonna be a big test Sunday for him. 492 00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.680 Thought, Oh, yeah, for sure, absolutely, I'm sure. 493 00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:06.680 Yeah. I've just been going to school, taking some classes 494 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.720 and play a little music, you know. You know, I've 495 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:11.240 been retired three years and. 496 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.680 Yeah, a nice you know, you earned it. 497 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.480 Well, you know, the interesting thing that you're doing is 498 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.680 that you're doing stuff that's fun stuff that you've wanted 499 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.960 to do, I'm sure for a number of years. And 500 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.480 when you have the flexibility to be able to do 501 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.640 that and the wherewithal to do that, that's that's pretty cool. 502 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.440 Now are you are you these classes you're taking are 503 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.480 they do you have to? Are you paying tuition for that? 504 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:37.519 Or you just auditing? 505 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.400 It's I go, I audit the classes. It's a credit 506 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:46.359 for lifelong running. They're very interesting classes. Yeah, this one 507 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.160 class I'm taking his accounting. Now it's kind of hard, 508 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.279 but I like the terms he gives, you know, you know, 509 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.720 like he was talking and I've been in that program 510 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.319 and I get to go free. So it's kind of 511 00:28:58.359 --> 00:28:59.680 neat to build up. 512 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.680 Your edge, you know, absolutely, And you know this should 513 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.599 be kind of a model, if you will, for other people. 514 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.680 You know, I hear so many people that talk about, 515 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.759 oh gosh, I don't know if I could retire, I'd 516 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.240 be bored. I don't know what I'd do with my 517 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.720 time and all this sort of stuff. But you're kind 518 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.079 of proving what you need to do or kind of 519 00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.079 an example what needs to be do. Expand your horizon 520 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.079 as you're doing your concentrating on your music. You're going 521 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:31.119 and getting auditing classes and getting education credits and so on, 522 00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:35.279 and learning different things. I mean, for crying out loud, 523 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.720 go to a park, read a book for crying out loud. 524 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.039 Don't be anybody. I'll tell you what. Anybody that says 525 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.039 they're going to be bored in retirement is probably a 526 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.000 boring person to begin with, because so many people that 527 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:51.680 I know of have retired and they tell me after 528 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.359 a couple of months or so on, to go. I 529 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.279 don't know how I was able to work with all 530 00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:58.519 the stuff that I've been doing now and all this 531 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.279 stuff I'm doing, I couldn't have. I couldn't work because 532 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:02.680 I'm too busy, which. 533 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.440 Is cool A pleasure, all right, Dick. 534 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:09.720 You take care, be safe out there. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, 535 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.160 four nine, fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight two 536 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:14.559 three talk one eight hundred eight two three eight two 537 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.039 five five pound, five point fifty AT and T wireless phone. 538 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.720 Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five kr SE 539 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:21.960 DE talk station. 540 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.960 What's the best place to reach new customer? 541 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.839 Hey nine First warning weather forecast UH during the morning 542 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.319 rush hour, look for clear skies, patchy fog is possible 543 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:31.839 and a low of forty six. 544 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:32.480 Uh. 545 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.440 Let's see this morning going into later on in the afternoon, 546 00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.400 we're gonna have a sunshine bit warmer, high of seventy six. Tonight, 547 00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.680 we're gonna have clear skies, cool in a lower forty 548 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.799 eight Tuesday, mostly sunny. It's mostly clear. I'm gonna be 549 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.799 warm again. High of seventy seven and lovel fifty five 550 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.720 right now forty five degrees fifty five krs de talk 551 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:54.960 station Chuck has our traffic. 552 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:58.359 Probably you see f Triumphings Center. When it comes to stroke, 553 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.799 every second counts. That's why you you see comprehensive stroke centers, 554 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.440 your clear choice for rapid by saving treatment. 555 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:04.880 Learn more. 556 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:05.039 Ed. 557 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.960 You see how dot Com highways are doing fine early 558 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.759 on this Monday morning. No recks to deal with, No 559 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.920 overnight work crews in your way. South Bend seventy five 560 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.559 under twenty minutes from above Union Center through downtown Chuck 561 00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:19.839 Ingram and fifty five kre See the talk. 562 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:32.400 Station five fifty in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for 563 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:37.119 Brian Thomas, fifty five care see the talk station. Phone 564 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.119 numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five hundred 565 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.319 one eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred 566 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.440 eighty two three eight two five five pound five point 567 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.759 fifty on that at and T wireless phone. Now, well, 568 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.319 we're talking about inflation, and when we're talking about that, 569 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.960 I talked about going to these UH fall festivals and 570 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.720 talking to some of the merchants, some of the people 571 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.599 that run the boosts and UH items in these boosts 572 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.799 that would go for say one hundred dollars or so, 573 00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.079 those were suffering. Anybody was selling what I would consider 574 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.319 high end stuff. Now, one of the things I was 575 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.119 looking at is I love, you know, you see these pens, 576 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.160 these wooden pens that people will make. They'll do all 577 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.599 these exotic woods and make them into a pan. My 578 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.079 particular pen I've got I bought years ago at the 579 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:28.200 Appalachian Festival was actually two cartridges too, bullet casings that 580 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.759 they made into a pen. And the unique materials that 581 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.480 they're using for pens. Now, so I'm always attracted to 582 00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:39.079 those booths. One I saw at let me see, we 583 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.440 were over in Indiana at one of the festivals over there, 584 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.720 and this one vendor had a pen and it had 585 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.039 kind of a you know, I like a wider pan 586 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.640 or a thicker pin type of thing. I'd give you 587 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.440 an idea pretty much along the side of one of 588 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:57.720 those pen sharpies, kind of like that thickness. And they 589 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:02.480 had these pens that actually had a cigar band around it. 590 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.119 So they take this cigar band and put it around 591 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.559 the thing to make it look like, you know, basically 592 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.720 well the cigar band. And I was checking to see 593 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:13.799 if they had one of the brands of cigars that 594 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.880 I smoke, and they didn't, so I gave them my 595 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.160 card and information and so on. But you know, I 596 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.480 love these kinds of pens. I love these unique pens. 597 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.319 And that's one of the vendors I talked to. In 598 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.000 these pens, they will some of them will retell or 599 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.079 they'll sell them for you know, in the seventy five 600 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.240 to ninety dollars, but if you want something interesting like that, 601 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.240 it can be as high as one hundred and sixty. 602 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.680 And that always makes me pause for a moment and say, gosh, 603 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.279 how bad do I really want that? And a lot 604 00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.279 of times it's like, Okay, walk away, go look at 605 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.759 some other things, Go eat a funnel cake, or go 606 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.920 eat especially if you're the sauerkrawd festival, eat one of 607 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.000 their what they call them ruben rolls or something like 608 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.720 that up there. So you go, have you know, some food, 609 00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.559 and walk around a little bit and make determination where 610 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.000 you're gonna. I didn't go back and buy it. I 611 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:03.599 did give him my card and I said, I'll probably 612 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.519 check with him sometime around Christmas if I think But anyway, 613 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.039 it's one of those things where I always think twice 614 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:12.840 about whether I'm going to buy something. And when we 615 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.400 look at inflation, and when you're talking about how to 616 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.280 cut inflation, the first place you have to start is 617 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.119 with energy. You don't come into office like the Biden 618 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:25.320 administration did and stop the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, 619 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.960 which threw up to ten thousand people or more out 620 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.679 of work on that pipeline, many of those blue collar 621 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:38.280 and union members constructing that pipeline. You don't cut off 622 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:42.320 selling or drilling for oil in an war the Alaska 623 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:47.440 National Wildlife Refuge. You don't stop drilling on federal lands. 624 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.239 You don't start You don't stop selling leases, which is 625 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.039 by law which you're supposed to do, and you don't 626 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.280 stop drilling in the golf. Now, since that time, yes, 627 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.280 we are drilling more oil, and we are a pumping 628 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:06.519 record amount of oil, but we're also importing a lot 629 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:10.039 more oil to the point where we are not technically 630 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:14.079 energy independent. We were energy independent in twenty twenty for 631 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:18.000 the first time since nineteen forty nine under the Trump administration, 632 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:21.519 the first time since nineteen forty nine. A barrel of 633 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.280 oil at that time was at fifty dollars a barrel 634 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:30.000 or lower, and today, as of Friday, what that business closed, 635 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.400 then oil was selling for around seventy dollars West Texas Intermediate, 636 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.079 which is one of the gauges, and Brent we're selling 637 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.400 at seventy dollars and seventy seventy four dollars, respectively. When 638 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.920 you have a twenty five percent increase like that, when 639 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.280 you have the raw materials that go into these refineries 640 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:52.360 and then they pump out the gasoline. Although national average 641 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.840 for gasoline as of Monday was three dollars and twenty cents, 642 00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.679 back in twenty twenty, gasoline was at two dollars and 643 00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:03.840 twenty four cents, so that is forty percent higher. So 644 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.000 if you want to know where inflation starts, it starts 645 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:11.320 with energy. Because energy goes across all sectors. We use 646 00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.079 energy here at the station, the electric for the lights, 647 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.960 the power for everything around, and so if our energy 648 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.519 prices are up, it's going to cost more. We'll pick 649 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.039 this up. We'll talk about some other things at the 650 00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:26.880 top of the hour. I'm Kevin Gordon, seven hundred seven 651 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.119 fifty five KRC, the talk station. 652 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.039 Your campaign pitstock on the road to November. 653 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:36.039 It's a circus. 654 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.280 There's always something new happening in fifty five krs the 655 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:40.119 talk station. 656 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.639 Are you receiving letters from I'm. 657 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:56.039 Right five minutes after six o'clock. Hope your Monday morning 658 00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:00.519 is going as well as mine? No, trap well, actually 659 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.119 right now, there's no traffic accident. So according to Chuck 660 00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.800 Ingram's see if we can keep it that way, See 661 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.400 if we can go accident free all morning. What do 662 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.079 you think is that a goal for the day. Beautiful 663 00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.320 weather out there, nice, crisp and cool, forty five degrees 664 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.880 not too cold, not too hot, so on and so forth. 665 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.840 So looking forward to that, and of course behind the microphone, 666 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.679 it doesn't get any better for me if you went 667 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.599 to my Facebook page. As you know, generally, not generally, 668 00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.679 every time I come in and I fill in, I 669 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.639 always post on the Internet or post on my Facebook 670 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.679 page who we have as guests, and today is no 671 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.760 different from that. Coming up in six started, we're going 672 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.840 to be talking to Phil Flynn. Here's a senior market 673 00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:45.719 analyst prices for the Price Futures Group, author of the 674 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.000 Energy Report and contributed to Fox News Network. We will 675 00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.400 be discussing a wide range of political and energy issues. 676 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.159 Coming up at seven twenty, we'll be talking to Christopher 677 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.920 Smitherman in the smither Event. Eight to five, we'll be 678 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.360 talking Attorney Steve Don't and Kentucky. He's also a Kentucky 679 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.159 state representative. We'll discuss Kentucky Constitutional Amendment too. Now you 680 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.719 may recall on Thursday Brian talked to Jim Waters from 681 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.599 the Bluegrass Institute about that and a lot of good 682 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.800 topics were brought up in a lot of good information, 683 00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:20.760 But in talking to a lot of people that I know, 684 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.440 people that I thought or was a shoe in in 685 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.920 terms of voting for this, have given me some information 686 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:33.320 or objections to this that I really didn't expect. And 687 00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:37.000 quite honestly, I think a little bit of misinterpretation of 688 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.239 what this all is going to do or what is 689 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.239 going to happen as a result of this constitutional amendment. 690 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.480 So we'll try to clear up some of that as well. 691 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.440 And then at eight forty we're going to be talking 692 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.280 to the Cincinnati VA. So all that coming up for 693 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:56.159 your listening pleasure now when we're talking about inflation and 694 00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.239 we're talking about the stakes of this election and so on. 695 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.519 I've mentioned in the past that energy goes across all 696 00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:06.719 sectors of the economy. I don't care if you work 697 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:11.079 in a factory, if you drive a truck, are a 698 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:15.199 salesman out on the road and driving from customer to customer, 699 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.360 you're an attorney, whatever you are. Energy goes across every 700 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.840 segment of our economy. It affects your house, It affects 701 00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.639 everything that you do. And if your energy prices are up, 702 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:29.920 you just look at your gas and electric bill on 703 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.039 what that's done. If you're like me and you try 704 00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.760 to kind of pay attention to what is going on 705 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.559 from what you spent one month to another, or just 706 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:43.480 go back on your bank statements if you can, and 707 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.599 look at what you were paying Duke Energy or whomever 708 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:50.280 going back in twenty twenty versus what you're paying today. 709 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.760 Look at your sanitation bill, look at your water bill, 710 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:56.760 look at all this stuff. You see what the prices 711 00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.199 are in the grocery store, and you know that there's 712 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:04.199 inflation in the when you are paying forty right now, okay, 713 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:10.039 right now, we are paying about something like ninety six 714 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:13.199 cents more for a gallon of gasoline than we were 715 00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.119 back in twenty twenty. That's a forty two percent increase 716 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.960 now that compared to even a year ago, we were 717 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:26.119 paying three sixty. So gas has come down forty forty 718 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:31.199 cents a gallon, and it's still ninety six cents higher 719 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.679 than what it was in twenty twenty, when, by the way, 720 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.599 we were energy independent for the first time since nineteen 721 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.559 forty nine under the Trump administration. Diesel prices a year 722 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.320 ago were four forty six. Yeah, they're now down to 723 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:52.519 three sixty a gallon, but they are still fifty two 724 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:56.119 percent higher than what they were back in twenty twenty. 725 00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.519 And let's not forget back in June of June. As 726 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.079 a matter of fact, June the fourteenth of twenty twenty two, 727 00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:08.079 regular unleaded gas hit a record high of national average 728 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.599 of five dollars and two cents a gallon. Diesel hit 729 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.360 a record on June the sixteenth of twenty twenty two, 730 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.079 of five dollars and eighty two cents a gallon. And 731 00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:26.920 when you start pulling those numbers, and every day, every 732 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.679 time you fill up your gas your car or your truck, 733 00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.719 and you're using diesel or using gas, ninety six cents 734 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:40.480 more per gallon on your car. Now, if you're like me, 735 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.840 if you have a car that can go, it has 736 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:48.360 eighteen gallons whatever you fill up. For every gallon that 737 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.960 you're putting in that, if it's ten dollars, you're spending 738 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.519 nine dollars and sixty more cents than you did four 739 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.440 years ago. And when you go into the grocery store. 740 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.920 And like I said, as a recovering accountant, I pay 741 00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:04.559 attention to things. And one of the things I've done 742 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.679 over the years, when my wife and I first got 743 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.440 together and we started doing Thanksgiving at our home, I 744 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.880 started looking at, okay, all the stuff that we were doing, 745 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.400 as far as what we were buying and so on, 746 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.840 and I kept the receipts and I said, okay, you know, 747 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.360 the price of the turkey, the price of the cranberries, 748 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.000 the price of the sugar, all on down the road. 749 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.320 The jello, all the stuff for the stuffing, and it 750 00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.239 is stuffing. It's not dressing, because we definitely put it 751 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.000 in the bird. It tastes better, trust me. So I 752 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.079 look at the spices, the ingredients and all the other stuff, 753 00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.320 and so I started doing a list in terms of 754 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.400 what we went into that meal, and then I'd write 755 00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:50.639 down what the prices of that were that year. And 756 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.679 when you do that over the year and see how 757 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:57.440 things have increased, it is phenomenal in terms of when 758 00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.719 you look at just the difference in the last four 759 00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:04.800 years what those prices have been. Now. Granted, around Thanksgiving, 760 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.239 those prices come down. A lot of stuff goes on sale, 761 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.039 and if you hit things at the right price, you 762 00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.280 can save a lot of money. But if you need 763 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:18.039 that particular item right now, right here, right now, and 764 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.280 that's not available or you can't wait for it, you 765 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.239 have to have it. And if that item is not 766 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.639 on sale, you're going to pay significantly more for that 767 00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:30.920 than you did before. In the past. I would pride 768 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.760 ourselves on just the two of us basically compared to 769 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.639 how I eat and what I eat. We are basically 770 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.079 about a family of three and a half. Because I 771 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.960 have a big appetite and I eat a lot. So 772 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.360 when you consider where we are and what we spend 773 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.199 money on as far as our groceries are concerned, I 774 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.360 always wanted to try to keep it to where we 775 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.840 are saving about one hundred dollars a month in terms 776 00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:02.280 of our groceries and during the year I look at that. 777 00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:04.840 You know, obviously in the month of September, you want 778 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.320 to be able to save about nine hundred dollars or thereabouts. 779 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:10.480 The way we have been shopping and the way that 780 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.880 we make sure that we buy our groceries when things 781 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.119 are on sale. So far this year, I'm proud to 782 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:21.519 say that we have saved over sixteen hundred dollars in 783 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.719 groceries simply by hitting things when they're on sale now. 784 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.920 In the past, if you know what we're seeing in 785 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.440 the marketplace now, if somebody is used to buying hinds 786 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.119 and that prices are, you know, for Ketchup or French 787 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:40.280 As or whatever name brand you are are looking for. 788 00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:45.679 If those prices are fairly high, sometimes you go to 789 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.199 a lesser brand, or you go to the store brand. 790 00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:52.440 And in past, just to kind of compare and whatever 791 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:56.639 I have purchased store brand stuff which quite honestly in 792 00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:02.199 some instances is actually has less crappy ingredients in it, 793 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.440 artificial colors and that type of thing, or food dyes 794 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.400 and so on. So sometimes the store brands, if you 795 00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.599 look at the label, are actually better than the main 796 00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.920 products sold and the taste is darned near good or 797 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.440 even better. In fact, we prefer Kroger brand peanut butter 798 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.119 just as an example to any of the other ones 799 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.119 out there. And so, but you can cut that way. 800 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.920 But even if you're buying the name brand items and 801 00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.079 you wait till they go on sale and you buy 802 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.199 those we, like I said, we've managed to save almost 803 00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.599 well over sixteen hundred dollars just and we're not even 804 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:43.159 through the end of October. So you can do these things, 805 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.840 and you have to scale back. You see where people 806 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.079 are trying to pinch pennies and they're doing certain things 807 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.599 that may be downgrading where they're going to dinner at 808 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.519 night or and used to be that you could, you know, 809 00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.760 if you're on a budget or you're trying to you know, 810 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:00.519 you know, if you go out to eat a number 811 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.880 of times during the week and instead of maybe going 812 00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.440 to an Applebee's or a Longhorn Steakhouse or something along 813 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.400 those line, or Charlie's or something, and you say, well, 814 00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:12.280 you know, we'll kind of scale back and maybe go 815 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.360 to a Fish's or if we you know, if we're 816 00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.960 going to fishes a lot of times, maybe we'll kind 817 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.440 of augment that and go to maybe McDonald's or something 818 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.079 once during the week or something along those lines. But 819 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:26.719 even that has become extremely expensive. You can't get out 820 00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:30.519 of their cheap anymore either, and so it's been a 821 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.599 struggle and you look at where you're you know, the 822 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.119 old saying that my paycheck is is shorter than the month, 823 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.159 which means that you know, obviously there's more bills and 824 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.079 more things to pay for by the end of the 825 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.800 month because your dollar's not stretching as much. And so 826 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.239 when you look at the economic numbers and you look 827 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:51.519 at the way this economy is going and the fact 828 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:56.119 that it was changed, it was changed by this administration 829 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.920 because of their energy policy. And then when you take 830 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.440 into consideration some of the other things that they've been 831 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.519 trying to push as far as ev mandates and some 832 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:10.000 of these other government regulations that when you have government regulations, 833 00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:13.480 those boost up the cost of certain items because companies 834 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.599 have to comply with that. It is time for a change, 835 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.440 and yes, we need to turn the page. We need 836 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:23.280 to turn the page back to an administration that knows 837 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.920 what the hell they're doing. Phone numbers seven five, one, three, 838 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.480 seven four nine, fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight 839 00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.760 two three talk one eight hundred eight two three eight 840 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.559 two five five pound five point fifty AT and T 841 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.800 wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five 842 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:53.840 KRC the talk station only six twenty one in the morning. 843 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.480 Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five K see 844 00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:00.440 the talk stations. Phone numbers five one, three, seven four, nine, fifty, 845 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.800 five hundred one, eight hundred eighty two three talk one 846 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:05.639 eight hundred eight two three eight two five five pound 847 00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.360 five point fifty on that AT and T wireless phone. 848 00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.000 I've been telling you a lot about, you know, inflation 849 00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:14.039 and stuff and what I've been experiencing and talking to 850 00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.760 vendors at these various UH Fall festivals that we've been 851 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.760 going to. And remember, this is the administration that kept 852 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.719 telling us that inflation was transitory, which meant that it 853 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.639 was just a blip on the screen. And that it 854 00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:29.320 was going to come down, which it didn't. And we 855 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:33.760 see that on an ongoing basis, we had the Federal Reserve, 856 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.159 which had been talking about that, oh well, we're going 857 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.760 to raise interest rates, and they raised interest rates eleven 858 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.639 times from what was it, March of twenty two until 859 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:50.239 July of twenty twenty three, eleven times. Now, when you 860 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:54.280 raise interest rates or lower interest rates, I always thought 861 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.639 that it would take oh maybe four or five six 862 00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.719 months before it would wind its way through the economy 863 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:03.559 and that you'd really see the effect of that. But 864 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.159 over the last couple of years, as this has happened, 865 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.800 I've been reading a lot more about that, and a 866 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:12.559 lot of economists will tell you that it takes up 867 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.480 to two years for an interest rate increase or an 868 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:19.599 interest rate cut to find its way through the economy. 869 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:23.440 And so when we are seeing the bankruptcies that we've 870 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.079 been seeing this year in twenty twenty four, when we 871 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.920 start seeing you know, when you see these strikes and 872 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.400 you see companies laying people off, and you see the 873 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.920 unemployment rate kind of creeping up a little bit here 874 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.559 and there, and when you see, well, go back to 875 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:46.000 the individual bankruptcies, the number of companies, the number of 876 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:50.079 people that are underwater, and so on. This is two 877 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:55.000 years now after the first interest rate increase, and we 878 00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.960 still have several more over that period of time, from 879 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:03.280 March of twenty two, twenty two until July of twenty 880 00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:08.039 twenty three when those were stopped, and all during this 881 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.639 period of time, we've heard the FED tell us that, well, 882 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:16.119 we're battling inflation. We've got to get inflation down. Inflation 883 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.679 until inflation gets down to two percent, we're not going 884 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.800 to be comfortable with that. And so when you had 885 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:26.039 inflation up to nine point one percent in June of 886 00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:30.000 twenty twenty two and then it came down to six 887 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:33.199 percent four percent, they kept calling, you know, doing victory 888 00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.920 laps and saying, oh, you know, our economy is working 889 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.599 and so on. And then at the first of the year. 890 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.639 I remember back in December they were talking about at 891 00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:45.559 their last FED meeting that we could possibly do four 892 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.360 rate cuts during the year, and I said at the time, 893 00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.199 I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think 894 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.519 if you'd listen to what the Fed has to say. 895 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.719 The fact that they want interest rates, they want inflation 896 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.880 down around two percent and they need a cup of 897 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:08.880 steady and definitive sustained growth down heading down to that 898 00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:12.119 two percent range, and it wasn't happening. They needed a 899 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.679 couple of months worth of data. Well in December, you're 900 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.760 not gonna if you're a couple of months worth of 901 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.320 data ain't gonna get you to March. When everybody was saying, oh, 902 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.480 interest rates are going to be cut in March, I 903 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.239 said in March, before March, it ain't gonna happen in March. 904 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.000 And I said it ain't going to happen in June, 905 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.880 and in fact, by August, I was saying, I don't 906 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.000 think it's going to happen at all this year. And 907 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:35.559 then lo and behold, we get this number from the 908 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.519 Labor Department, where we knew this number. I talked about 909 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:43.280 this several times, where they had overinflated the jobs numbers 910 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.880 from last year to the tune of about eight hundred 911 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.880 thousand jobs. And then they finally released the report in August, 912 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.159 and the crap hit the fan. The market took a downturn, 913 00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:55.599 and they were saying, oh, the Federal Reserve needs to 914 00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.920 have an emergency meeting and cut interest rates immediately, because oh, 915 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.639 the economy's going and a hell in a handbasket. And 916 00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.159 then after about oh five six days the dust settled 917 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.679 on that. But when the Federal Reserve went in September 918 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.480 and met, there was no reason based on their criteria 919 00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.320 of lower lower inflation rate down to two percent, it's 920 00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:19.960 still up around two point four. Then they shifted and 921 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:24.320 said we want a strong Our two missions is lower 922 00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:28.199 interest or lower inflation rate, but also a strong job market. 923 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.159 And they were talking about the strong job market, that 924 00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.039 the market had seen a little bit of softening, and 925 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.320 when they made that cut of a half a percentage point, 926 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.679 I said at the time, and I still believe this, 927 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:46.079 this was political a month before, two months before an election, 928 00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.320 because nothing had changed from what had been the prior month, 929 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.960 the month before that, the month before that. If they 930 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:56.400 thought that the job market was soft back then, then 931 00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.639 they should have made that cut. But this close to 932 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:02.440 an election was political, and it was nothing to do 933 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.079 with finance. It was a It was just absolutely political. 934 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.440 And one of the things that I've seen is that 935 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:12.400 this interest rate cut hasn't quite done what they expected 936 00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:14.119 it to do. Coming up to the bottom of the hour, 937 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.880 we were talking to Phil Flynn, He is a senior 938 00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.079 account executive and author of the Energy Report with Price 939 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:23.280 Futures Group. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty 940 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:27.320 five krs the Talk station. I have a hard time recognizing. 941 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.079 I want to welcome back to the program. Phil Flynn. 942 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.039 He is a senior market analyst with Price Futures Group, 943 00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:36.760 author of the Energy Report, and contributed to Fox Business Network. 944 00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.320 He is one of the world's leading energy market analysts 945 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.519 and a guy with a tremendous amount of common sense 946 00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.000 in terms of what the heck is going on in 947 00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.800 the Middle East and in our political climate right now. Phil, 948 00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:52.400 welcome back to the program. 949 00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.880 Good morning, Kevin. It's great to be back on with 950 00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.679 you again. You know, but I don't know it's so 951 00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.280 great for your gasoline price, says I'm afraid they're creeping 952 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:02.199 up as we speak. 953 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.920 Yes they are, Yes they are. Well. Of course, the 954 00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:10.599 oil prices have been fluctuating tremendously depending upon what week 955 00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:13.239 it is or what day it is, with what's going 956 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.440 on in the Middle East, whether or not there's going 957 00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.719 to be an oil flow problem, If the Red Sea 958 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:24.719 there's going to be more shifts attacked and sunk and 959 00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.079 of course, whether they're going to Ran, is going to 960 00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:29.800 start attacking other oil fields in the region. 961 00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:33.440 Correct, That's absolutely correct. 962 00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:33.840 You know. 963 00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.360 In fact, over the weekend, the odds that Israel will 964 00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:42.639 attack Iranian oil fields just went back up in a 965 00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:46.320 big way. You know, oil prices it pulled back last week, 966 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:50.239 you know, because of reports that President Biden begged Israel, 967 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.480 don't attack the oil fields, will send you some missile systems, 968 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.039 will do this then and the other thing. But then 969 00:54:56.079 --> 00:55:00.840 a report over the weekend that the Unit Its States 970 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:07.679 is investigating an unauthorized release of classified documents that basically 971 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:11.960 talks about Israel's plans to attack Iran. So these plans 972 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:16.280 have been leaked by someone, and that's terrible, and that 973 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:19.280 means from Israel's point of view, they're going to have 974 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.480 to go back to the drawing board to plan the 975 00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:24.079 attack all over again, because their plans have been out 976 00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:28.039 there and Iran knows what they are. So now, you know, 977 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:31.000 I think, you know, the gloves are coming off, you know, 978 00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:38.920 especially after they attacked Prime Minister Benjamin nennan Yahoo's home 979 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:39.719 over the weekend. 980 00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.000 Yeah, and it's interesting because you know, I kind of 981 00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:49.360 wonder though, if you know because net Yahoo and Israel 982 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.719 is not stupid. And they were being told by the 983 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.400 Biden administration number one not to go into Ramala, which 984 00:55:56.519 --> 00:56:00.639 was obviously they didn't follow that advice and it paid 985 00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.840 off for them. But I wonder if when Biden administration 986 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.719 was saying don't attack the oil fields, and we got 987 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.000 those reports last week that Israel was not going to 988 00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.000 attack the oil fields or the nuclear structure or their 989 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:19.639 infrastructure that and then whatever battle plans they had, I 990 00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:22.880 wonder if they gave them the right battle plans just 991 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.440 to test them to see if they were going to 992 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:25.960 be leaked. 993 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.519 That would be double secret spy stuff. I mean, that 994 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.039 would be very interesting. 995 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:33.639 It wouldn't surprise me because true, you know. 996 00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:37.119 I would hope so, because I mean, this is a 997 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.280 big embarrassment to the United States. Yeah, right, if this 998 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.719 was leaked from the Biden administration, I mean, it's almost 999 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.719 treating us, right, I mean the way yeah, and if 1000 00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.880 you look at the way that you know, Israel has 1001 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:56.719 executed this war professionally intelligently, you know, the way that 1002 00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:00.800 they've handled Hamas and hansme Law. You know, it's really 1003 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:04.880 been almost like reading a novel about a way to 1004 00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:08.360 carry out a war. And on the flip side, if 1005 00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.280 we have the United States leaking the battle plans of 1006 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:16.559 our allies to its enemies, I mean, that's a sad 1007 00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:18.199 day for American history. 1008 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:23.079 Yeah, that is a sad day because again, when you 1009 00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:26.199 look at just what is going on over there, the 1010 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:30.280 fact that the well, when we start seeing these casualty 1011 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.760 numbers and they start talking about well, according to Hamas 1012 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.599 and according to the Palestinian authority in the Gaza, that 1013 00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:43.440 there's been forty six thousand civilians killed, which is interesting 1014 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:48.280 because we don't know that's true. We don't know if 1015 00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:51.840 those numbers have been verified. We don't know, there's no 1016 00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.880 independent source for that, and that could just be a 1017 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:57.440 lot of an awful lot of propaganda. 1018 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:03.039 It could be you know, and listen, I know Israel, 1019 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:08.920 you know, does not want to kill civilian populations. The 1020 00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:12.679 problem is is that when you get into Gaza, the 1021 00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:17.440 leadership wants to use the civilian population as human shields, right, 1022 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:21.039 because they're cowards. Right, That's what cowards do, right, you know, 1023 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.519 put your you know, your old people and your children 1024 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:27.920 to protect you. You know. So you know, it's hard 1025 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.480 to know what is true, you know, But I mean, 1026 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.320 when you look at the situation here, you know, as 1027 00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.760 Benjamin Nettiyahu said yesterday, all you have to do is 1028 00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:40.639 lay down your arms, release the hostages, and this war 1029 00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:44.119 could be over tomorrow. But you know, the leadership of 1030 00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:48.360 hamas you know, refuses to do that well. 1031 00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:50.960 And we've seen in the past every time that there's 1032 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.320 been something put on the table, all of a sudden, 1033 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:58.480 the Palestinians say no. And whether or not whatever is 1034 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:00.719 put in front of them, no matter how good it 1035 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.440 is for them and good for the region, they turn 1036 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:08.519 it down. So we know where that's going taking up. 1037 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:13.239 I'm going taking a different tact here going into this election. 1038 00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:19.280 You have been very upfront talking about how this administration 1039 00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.239 has absolutely raped and depleted that Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and 1040 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:28.360 I don't think people understand just exactly how dangerous that 1041 00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.639 is given what's going on in the Middle East. If 1042 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:35.639 we do experience any type of disruption in terms of 1043 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.400 oil flow and whatever, can you kind of shed some 1044 00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:39.480 light on that for us? 1045 00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:44.400 Sure, you know, when you look at what's happened, Kevin, 1046 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:46.599 and you've been We've been talking about this for a 1047 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:50.760 long time. The Strategic Petroleum Reserve is like a you know, 1048 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.679 a fire alarm, Right, you're supposed to tap it in 1049 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:54.920 case of emergency. 1050 00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:55.360 Right. 1051 00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:00.559 President Biden decided to tap this strategic petroleum reserve to 1052 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:04.079 influence the outcome of an election. He did it to 1053 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.559 try to send Saudi Arabia message. And you know, while 1054 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.760 he says, oh, we had to tap the reserve because 1055 01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:12.800 of the war in Ukraine, the truth is he tapped 1056 01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:17.519 it ahead of time. So President Biden, who has been 1057 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:21.239 the most anti fossil fuel president in the history of 1058 01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:25.519 the country, try to cover up for his bad policies. 1059 01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:28.760 It caused prices to go higher by trying to tap 1060 01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:32.400 the reserve to keep prices lower, so that would mask 1061 01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:36.880 the fact that his policies are going to create longer 1062 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.280 term shortages in the United States. And in the plan, 1063 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:42.880 you know, you and I Kevin know, they want to 1064 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:46.960 force everybody off of, you know, the internal combustion engine, 1065 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.480 and they want to take away or stole because they 1066 01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.280 don't want a natural gas to you know, and this 1067 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:58.000 is radical thing in this energy transition, and it's all 1068 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.159 smoke and mirrors because everything that they're doing has not 1069 01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:05.320 done anything to add to greenhouse gas emissions. In fact, 1070 01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.840 if you look at to build an electric car takes 1071 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.599 three times the amount of greenhouse gas emissions and it 1072 01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:15.239 does to produce another car. We're using more coal in 1073 01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:18.320 this country than ever before and around the world, you know, 1074 01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:22.079 So this is really just more about trying to control 1075 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:25.239 people than it is about saving the environment exactly. 1076 01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:28.440 It's more like climbingism as we've talked about in the past. 1077 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:31.480 I'll tell you what can we can we keep you 1078 01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:34.159 for another segment if you got time, you bet, because 1079 01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.519 I want to. I want to. I want to delve 1080 01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:40.559 into more of this green news steel and what that 1081 01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:43.000 is trying to cause and what they are trying to 1082 01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.079 force down our throats. Because you bring up a very 1083 01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:49.039 good point, because it's not as we've talked about before. 1084 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.199 It's not about saving the planet. It's about control. And 1085 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.320 so we'll pick this up. My guest is Phil Flynn, 1086 01:01:56.840 --> 01:02:00.320 Price Futures Group, author of the Energy Report. You gotta 1087 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.519 go online. You got to read this every day because 1088 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.920 there is such insights in there. It's fantastic. Coming up, 1089 01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:10.840 we'll keep our conversation with Phil Flynn. Continuing our conversation 1090 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:13.800 with Phil Flynn fifty five care see the talk station 1091 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.639 My guest again is Phil Flynn. He is as an 1092 01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:22.440 account executive, author of the Energy Report, and a frequent 1093 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.079 contributor to Fox Business News. Is one of the world's 1094 01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:28.719 leading energy market analysts and just an all around great 1095 01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:32.119 guy and a tremendous amount of common sense. Phil, thank 1096 01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:33.920 you so much for hanging with us through the break. 1097 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:35.039 Certainly appreciate it. 1098 01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:37.320 Oh gosh, now my head's getting too big. 1099 01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:43.599 Well, you know, the truth is the truth, my friend. 1100 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:48.320 We we were talking about the Green News, steel and 1101 01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:50.800 everything that's going on, and you brought up a very 1102 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.199 great point about the fact that how much energy we 1103 01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:59.320 are consuming, how much more electricity, and how we're using 1104 01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.440 more coal. Well, what people don't realize, and you've pointed 1105 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:06.840 this out in your Energy reports several times that number one, 1106 01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:13.159 the green energy electric cars, solar and wind are not 1107 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:17.039 ready for prime time. And with the amount of money 1108 01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:19.880 or the amount of energy that's being soaked up by 1109 01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:24.800 this artificial intelligence and these information collection areas is just 1110 01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.760 a major consumption of energy. 1111 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:32.599 It is, and people have to realize. You know, the 1112 01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:36.519 economy is continuing to evolve, and what we're seeing is 1113 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:41.079 that the future is in these data centers and artificial intelligence, 1114 01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:45.000 and in the country that controls the ability to power 1115 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:48.320 you know power, the power, power of the electric carried, 1116 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:51.599 you know, empower. The economy of the future is going 1117 01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:54.760 to be the economy that creates jobs in the future 1118 01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:58.360 for your children and your grandchildren. And we've taken a 1119 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:02.920 huge step back under the Biden administration, you know, by 1120 01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:06.840 spending billions of dollars on trying to build car chargers, 1121 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:10.360 for example, for cars that nobody wants to buy. And 1122 01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:12.199 by the way, I think they've built three of them. 1123 01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:15.840 So with all those billions, you know, and trying to 1124 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:21.039 pick winners and losers, you know, based on your green aspirations, 1125 01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.519 it's like, okay, you're a green energy company, We're going 1126 01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:26.599 to give you billions of dollars, you know, to to 1127 01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:30.280 to take a gamble. In the meantime, the rest of 1128 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.159 the world's getting prepared for what's coming here, you know. 1129 01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.480 I thought it was interesting that companies like Google and Amazon, 1130 01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:41.239 you know, they're already moving towards nuclear little nuclear power 1131 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.199 stations to try to power you know, their economy because 1132 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:46.239 they see what's coming. 1133 01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:46.880 You know. 1134 01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:49.280 The problem is here in the United States, we don't, 1135 01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.679 so we really have to change, you know, course right away, 1136 01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:56.840 otherwise our economy is going to fall, you know, back 1137 01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.320 to second place around other companies that get. 1138 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:02.480 It, and so Flynn that is, that is one of 1139 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.719 the technologies that I think is so cool, these many 1140 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:14.000 little nuclear reactors that can be used for electrical generation 1141 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:17.599 as opposed to these big you know, what we're used 1142 01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:19.760 to seeing is in terms of like you know, three 1143 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:23.519 Mile Island and the nuclear facilities and stuff. But these 1144 01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:29.360 nuclear little reactors seem to be that and I think, 1145 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:33.800 what is it hydrogen power or something like that for 1146 01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:39.039 cars and stuff. Seems to be areas that are being overlooked, 1147 01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:43.599 which tells me that somebody, some lobbyists and whatever are 1148 01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:47.400 pushing this green news steel and making a boatload of 1149 01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:50.199 money at that and not trying to solve a problem. 1150 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.960 That's exactly correct, right, if they wanted to solve the problem, 1151 01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:00.360 you know, the Paris Climate Core twenty years ago would 1152 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:04.039 have been talking about uh building nuclear power plants all 1153 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:09.159 over the globe because, as you know, Kevin, uh, nuclear 1154 01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:15.519 power is the only non greenhouse gas emitting way to 1155 01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.960 provide power. You know, you say, well what about wind 1156 01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:24.119 and solar, Well, it takes a lot of energy to uh, 1157 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.000 you know build those wind turbines, and it takes a 1158 01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:31.920 lot of energy right to to build you know, these 1159 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:36.119 solar panels and a lot of you know electric you know, 1160 01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.199 rare earth minerals that you have to mind for and 1161 01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.280 things like that. The key and the key number and 1162 01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:42.639 key problem because when they're done, you got to throw 1163 01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:43.119 them away. 1164 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:47.760 Yeah, and the key phraser is rare earth minerals, right, 1165 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:53.440 I don't you don't hear rare oil or rare fossil fuel. 1166 01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.440 You know, they keep you pointed this out in your 1167 01:06:56.559 --> 01:07:00.320 energy reports several times that what how many times are 1168 01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:04.079 we what since uh what nineteen forty or something like 1169 01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:06.440 that we have hit peak or we're supposed to hit 1170 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.480 peak energy? How many times since there? Which means that 1171 01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:12.840 you've used the most oil that you're going to be 1172 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.239 using at that point and that from that point on 1173 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.960 it it drops off. How many times we hit supposedly 1174 01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:20.119 going to hit peak oil? 1175 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.199 You know, many many times over the last couple of years, 1176 01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:28.480 and they keep pushing the date out further and further 1177 01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:30.960 and further. You know, in fact, you know, we're seeing 1178 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:33.760 a big retreat you know from you know, car companies 1179 01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:37.280 that we're going to go all electric like Volkswagen. You know, 1180 01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:39.880 we're seeing a big pushback from other governments saying, you 1181 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.239 know what, you know, there's no way we can meet 1182 01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:47.559 these targets, you know, with renewable energy. So you know, 1183 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:51.239 on paper it's it might sound good, but people think 1184 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:53.920 these things out, really have to know, so you have 1185 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.880 to wonder, you know, the question becomes, you know, are 1186 01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.320 the you know, are these global elites that are pushing 1187 01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:02.159 this agenda. Are they just not smart and they don't 1188 01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:06.000 think these things out? Or is there something more sinister 1189 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:08.760 behind it? And that's a question I'll leave up to 1190 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:09.920 the listeners. 1191 01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:12.199 Right right, Well, you know my opinion on that is, 1192 01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.159 you know you talked about before, it's all about control. 1193 01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:18.079 You know, where you work, how you work, where you work, 1194 01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:20.600 where you live, how you live, how you eat your home, 1195 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.039 what you eat, when you eat, how you cook your food, 1196 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.760 and so on. And as I mentioned before, that has 1197 01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.760 more to do with communism than it does environmentalism. And 1198 01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:30.680 of course I mashed the two together, as we've talked 1199 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:34.800 about before, I just call it climmunism. And you brought 1200 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:40.079 up a great point about how in terms of this 1201 01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:44.199 this energy cycle and where this is going when you 1202 01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:47.840 look at what you brought up, the Paris Accord, Okay, 1203 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:50.720 And I had to laugh my butt off during the 1204 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.479 Olympics that here you have the Paris Accords and the 1205 01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:57.680 par you know, you know, oh, you know everything, Paris, Paris, Paris. 1206 01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.800 And then we come to find out that for the 1207 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.640 last hundred years you're not allowed to swim in the 1208 01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.520 same river. And they had to go through all billions 1209 01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:09.359 of dollars to try to clean that up, and they 1210 01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:12.920 still didn't do it. And a number of our athletes 1211 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:14.720 or a number of the athletes around the world got 1212 01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:19.000 sick swimming in that. And here you have the Paris 1213 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:22.079 of course, and they can't even clean up their own mess. 1214 01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:26.239 Yeah, but they're going to change the climate for ye't 1215 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:29.239 worry about that. Rivers are one thing, But changing the 1216 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:33.359 climate of the Earth that has been changing for billions 1217 01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:35.600 of years. I mean, they could do that. It's just 1218 01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:36.960 those rivers are really tough. 1219 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.960 I'm just so silly fell that I apologize. I can't 1220 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:43.319 help myself, but you know, and then what we're seeing 1221 01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:46.119 is that everything we're doing here in the United States 1222 01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:49.600 to cut back on carbon emissions and whatever is more 1223 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:53.960 than offset what's going on in China and India and 1224 01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:58.079 these other so called developing countries. I mean, how do 1225 01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:01.119 you have China that's a super power with a nuke 1226 01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:03.960 still being a developing country. 1227 01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:10.560 Yeah, I mean it's just ludicrous. In the whole premise 1228 01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:14.560 of what they're trying to accomplish is ludicrous. And even 1229 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.680 if you look at their own data, you know, the 1230 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:20.479 amount they're supposedly going to try to change the temperature 1231 01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:26.079 by is minuscule. Okay, so you know it's not based 1232 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:29.399 in reality. It's based in help and there's better ways 1233 01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:31.399 to do it, you know. I'll tell you this. The 1234 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.920 United States has become the cleanest energy producer in the world, 1235 01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:39.319 and it has been in a large part by the 1236 01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:42.680 private enterprise. It hasn't been the government, you know, putting 1237 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.439 a gun to their head picking winners and losers. 1238 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.239 Fantastic, Phil. I can't thank you enough for spending time 1239 01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.520 with us. And it's like I said, I recommend highly 1240 01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:54.439 people check out your energy report on a how people 1241 01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:57.239 get in touch with you or how do people check 1242 01:10:57.279 --> 01:10:58.880 in on your energy report? 1243 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.760 It's really easy. You can call me at eight eight 1244 01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:07.720 eight two six four five six sixty five, or you 1245 01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:13.199 can just email me at p Flynn at pricegroup dot com. 1246 01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:16.199 Phil, thank you so much for being with us. I 1247 01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:18.640 certainly appreciate it. You have a great day, you too, 1248 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:21.000 have a great take O give them. Yeah, you bet. 1249 01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:31.239 Coming up on six minutes after seven o'clock. I hope 1250 01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:33.840 your morning is going as well as mine. I'm behind 1251 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:37.119 the microphone. It doesn't get any better than that for me. Plus, 1252 01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:38.640 we've got a lot of stuff to talk about. And 1253 01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.840 of course, if you have looked at my Facebook page, 1254 01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.000 because I always put on Facebook, what guests I have 1255 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.159 Coming up seven twenty and a few minutes, we're going 1256 01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:52.079 to be talking to Christopher Smitherman, the smither vent And 1257 01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:54.479 then eight o'clock or eight oh five, we're going to 1258 01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:57.840 be talking to an attorney in state Kentucky State Representative 1259 01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:01.239 Steve Don Steven Don't when we talking about the Kentucky 1260 01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.840 Constitutional Amendment number two. And again I know Brian had 1261 01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:09.319 Jim Waters from Bluegrass Institute on Thursday and a lot 1262 01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:11.840 of great information in that. If you haven't heard that, 1263 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.880 you might want to check that podcast out. But there 1264 01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.880 were some unanswered questions, or at least some of the 1265 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:19.920 people that I've talked to. They've raised some concerns about this, 1266 01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:22.199 which I was surprised that they brought up. But we'll 1267 01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.159 try to cover some of those in an eight forty 1268 01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:27.000 were when we're talking with folks from the Cincinntia v A. 1269 01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:31.479 I saw this story the other day. Usually when I 1270 01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:34.119 go into a convenience store here locally, and once in 1271 01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:36.359 a while, when the jackpot gets up there and you know, 1272 01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:40.279 start my my dream weaving and type of thing as 1273 01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:43.279 far as lottery winnings and so on, I'll go and 1274 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.680 buy a lottery ticket or something. When the jackpot gets 1275 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:50.399 up there pretty high. And this convenience store down the 1276 01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:52.439 street from where we live, and right as you walk 1277 01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:55.920 in the door, you got the Cincinni Inquirer there, And yeah, 1278 01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.439 my goodness, I you know, I hadn't seen a you know, 1279 01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:02.079 I've done the online version and been able to get 1280 01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:07.640 that over the last few years and so on. But boy, 1281 01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.079 I'll tell you what I never I did not. I mean, 1282 01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:12.640 the last time I think I bought it since an Inquirer, 1283 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.239 it got up to like seventy five cents a copy 1284 01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:21.239 three forty nine or thereabouts for the newspaper. Now are 1285 01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:25.159 they insane. But anyway, there's generally a stack of newspapers 1286 01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:27.439 earon when I walk in. I'll look over and glance 1287 01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:29.640 at the headlines to see if there's anything going on, 1288 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.960 because I still I still enjoy reading a newspaper. I'm 1289 01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.359 not going to pay that much for it, but I 1290 01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:41.279 would much prefer to have and get my fingers dirty, 1291 01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:45.720 because if you're going through a newspaper, there are so 1292 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.039 many other stories. As a matter of fact, I used 1293 01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:50.359 to start off with the Inquirer or the Post when 1294 01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:53.279 it was around, and sometimes start from the back and 1295 01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:56.520 work my way forward because sometimes some of the key 1296 01:13:57.079 --> 01:14:01.640 stories are buried on you know, the the page fifteen 1297 01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:04.880 or something like that, where it's more impactful than what 1298 01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:07.600 they're throwing on the front page. But anyway, I looked 1299 01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:10.840 over at the headlines and they were talking about lawsuit 1300 01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.800 demands more study at brent spnz Bridge, and I'm thinking, 1301 01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:19.239 dear God, I mean, anybody is listening to this program 1302 01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.399 and know what I'm on. In the past, I've talked 1303 01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:25.119 a lot about being part of the group. Back in 1304 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:29.439 twenty twelve when they were talking about that this no 1305 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.119 I'm sorry it was it twenty thirteen. I think it 1306 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:34.920 was twenty thirty. Anyway, it was one of the legislative sessions, 1307 01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:38.760 which was their short session because they do the anyway 1308 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.600 in the state of Kentucky. They were pushing this public 1309 01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.319 private partnership and the Chamber of Commerce and all these 1310 01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:46.079 people were saying, this has got to be done now, 1311 01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:48.359 We've got to do this here, the Brnce Benz Bridge. 1312 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.600 It can't wait another day. It is so important that 1313 01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:53.199 we build this bridge, and we got to do it 1314 01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:56.359 right here, right now. You know, it's too expense, you know, 1315 01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.399 we got to do it. It's an emergency. And so on. Well, 1316 01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:02.760 as soon as they started talking about tolling and a 1317 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:06.039 group of us got together, we were not going, you know, 1318 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:08.520 tolls or taxes in our opinion, and as you know, 1319 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:10.920 I was part of the group that we got that stopped. 1320 01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:13.960 Well with this infrastructure bill, there was a lot of 1321 01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:17.479 money that was put aside and grant was passed or 1322 01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.720 was applied for and honored, and that the brent S 1323 01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:22.840 Benz Bridge or the companion to the brent S Benz 1324 01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:26.119 Bridge was going to be built, maybe a little downsized 1325 01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:28.159 from what it was done. As a result of our 1326 01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:32.720 efforts with this group anyway. I won't go into the 1327 01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:38.000 whole history of that, but we were told that, you know, 1328 01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:41.760 it had to be done right here, right now. And 1329 01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:46.319 when that infrastructure bill was passed, they said that the 1330 01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:51.520 that the construction phase could start by that November. That 1331 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:56.079 November came and went. Last November came and went, and 1332 01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:59.479 we are going into another November that is going to 1333 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:03.119 come and go and not a shovel turn because the 1334 01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:07.119 City of Cincinnati, just like they did years ago, can't 1335 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:10.079 figure out where the footprint's going to be over there, 1336 01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:13.119 where they're going to do their entrance ramp. Can they 1337 01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:16.640 reconfigure this so we developed we've got more vacant space 1338 01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:19.199 over there for development so that they can build more 1339 01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:23.600 buildings and gouge and get more property taxes and so on, 1340 01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:27.479 and so that's being held up. And then all of 1341 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:30.520 a sudden, these environmental groups and all these people are saying, well, 1342 01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.079 we want to take a look at this, and we 1343 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:34.880 want to study this and whatever. Well, there was an 1344 01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:38.159 environmental impact study done back in twenty twelve. And let 1345 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:43.039 me tell you, you know, the game, the fish, the 1346 01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:46.720 air quality and all that sort of thing. I would 1347 01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.800 be willing to guess that if the birds and the 1348 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:54.119 fish and the animals living down there could tolerate what 1349 01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:57.399 was going on back in twenty twelve, they sure as 1350 01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:01.239 hell can tolerate that. Now they're down there trying to 1351 01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:05.359 find some exotic bird or insect that is an endangered 1352 01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:09.239 species so that they can stop this project. But where 1353 01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:12.319 are the people, Where is the chamber of commerce? Where 1354 01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:17.159 is this intensity? Quite honestly, I thought that the Brent 1355 01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:22.880 Spnce Bridge, if you again reconfigure some things. If one 1356 01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:25.479 of the things, you know, the fact that that bridge 1357 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:29.000 is only congested at rush hour in the morning and 1358 01:17:29.119 --> 01:17:32.359 the afternoon, if you do certain things in terms of 1359 01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:36.439 maybe forcing trucks off of that and onto the outer belt, 1360 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.319 that would alleviate things. But according to their study, if 1361 01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:44.560 you take trucks off, that's only one vehicle. And how 1362 01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:47.439 stupid is that anybody that's ever been on the road 1363 01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:50.760 when you are we see trucks in traffic, and you 1364 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.039 see the gap because they it takes them a while 1365 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:58.239 to start or to speed up, and a time to stop, 1366 01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.520 and so there's generally four or five car links between 1367 01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:04.199 them and the next the car. The length of the 1368 01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:08.479 truck at itself is about four to five vehicles. And 1369 01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:12.000 the estimates are that for every truck you take off 1370 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:15.680 a highway, it's the equivalent of taking anywhere from seven 1371 01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:20.319 to ten cars off the freeway. So these studies where 1372 01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:24.600 they say, well, you know, would only take you know, 1373 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:28.319 a thousand, one thousand vehicles off the Brent Spence Bridge 1374 01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:31.720 every every day, Well, no, that's more like the equivalent 1375 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:34.439 of ten thousand vehicles off of that because of the 1376 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:36.800 size of the truck and the impact and how far 1377 01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:40.279 the distance between the starting and stopping is. But of course, 1378 01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:42.520 you know, don't let facts get in the way. But 1379 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:44.319 now all of a sudden, there's this group that are 1380 01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:49.600 now suing to force another environmental impact. You know, is 1381 01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:52.720 is this ever going to get built down there? Is 1382 01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:56.560 there ever going to be this emergency that they were 1383 01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:59.640 talking about. And the things that I learned as a 1384 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:03.840 result of digging into the numbers, digging into the traffic counts, 1385 01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:06.720 how they came up with them and their forecast what 1386 01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:08.960 you know, because when they first came out with their 1387 01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.520 forecasters saying, you know, one hundred and seventy six thousand 1388 01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:14.640 vehicles come across that bridge every day and by the 1389 01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:17.960 year what twenty twenty five or whatever, there was going 1390 01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:20.840 to be two hundred and thirty some thousand going across 1391 01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:24.159 that bridge. Well we're still at about one hundred and 1392 01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:27.279 sixty six thousand vehicles going across that bridge on a 1393 01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:30.119 daily basis. So the traffic counts that they came up 1394 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:33.920 with are false and didn't come true. But this business 1395 01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:37.359 of a city of Cincinnati and this coalition is that 1396 01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:42.359 the Greater Cincinnati Coalition for Transit and Sustainable Development, backed 1397 01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:47.800 by the Davoo Good Project, Cincinnati Civic, Cincinnati Ride and 1398 01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:50.159 coming to Queen City bike groups and all this sort 1399 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:53.760 of stuff. For crying out loud, either this project or 1400 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:58.159 is important for this area or not. Quite Honestly, I 1401 01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:00.640 would have preferred for them to do. What we talked 1402 01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:03.960 about back then was the since Eastern Bypass, which was 1403 01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:08.760 another bypass out and around taking traffic off of the 1404 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:13.159 brin Spence Bridge. But amazing that you know, even you 1405 01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.920 know I talked about this before that back in the day. 1406 01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:19.960 If any of you are old enough to remember Jim Bunning, 1407 01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:23.920 Jim Bunning was a professional baseball player, Hall of Famer 1408 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.680 and so on. He became a congressman and then became 1409 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:29.560 a Senator from the state of Kentucky when he was 1410 01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:34.319 a congressman back in the early nineties or so before 1411 01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:37.520 he went to the Senate, when they had ear marks. 1412 01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:41.079 He got an ear mark for the construction of a 1413 01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:44.680 new bridge down there next to the Brinspenz Bridge or 1414 01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.840 a replacement for the Brn Spence Bridge. Cincinnati could not 1415 01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:51.359 get their act together in terms of where the landfall 1416 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:54.960 of that where the footprint of that bridge was going 1417 01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.439 to come over into Cincinnati because they were concerned about 1418 01:20:57.479 --> 01:20:59.880 they had plans for the banks, so they had plans 1419 01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:03.399 for Paul Brown Stadium or a stadium or riverfront stand. 1420 01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:05.760 They couldn't figure out where that footprint was going to be, 1421 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.079 and those ear marks were going to be running out 1422 01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:10.359 that bridge that we were supposed to get, and the 1423 01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:14.039 money for this region was taken then down to Aberdeen 1424 01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:20.359 and down to not Augusta, whatever the city is down 1425 01:21:20.359 --> 01:21:24.359 there where they built a new bridge down there, And 1426 01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:27.760 so what we were supposed to get here is now 1427 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:31.159 further down the road in Maysville, Kentucky, a brand new 1428 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:34.920 bridge there, a smaller version, but still the money that 1429 01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:39.119 was earmarked for Cincinnati was bypassed. Then now we are 1430 01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:41.279 three years or what two and a half years into 1431 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:46.239 this this infrastructure bill, and we still have not turned 1432 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:50.960 a shovel bird of a bit of dirt. Unbelievable, this 1433 01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:55.640 thing that was so so important immediately had to build 1434 01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.439 our new bridge now and now all of a sudden, 1435 01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:02.199 it's like delayed, delayed, delayed, del Phone numbers five one, three, seven, 1436 01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:05.079 four nine, fifty eight hundred eight two three talk one 1437 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:07.720 eight hundred day two three eight two fivey five. Coming up, 1438 01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:12.479 We've got Chris Smitherman, Christopher Smitherman with the uh smither Event. 1439 01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:15.560 I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. 1440 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:17.079 See the talk station. 1441 01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:18.960 What's the best place to reach new. 1442 01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:27.680 Seven twenty one in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for 1443 01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:30.800 Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the talk station. When 1444 01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:35.640 I talked to our friend Christopher Smitherman, former Cincinnati Vice mayor. Hey, 1445 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:37.640 welcome to the program. Glad to talk to you again, 1446 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:38.159 my friend. 1447 01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:41.560 Oh, thank you, my friend, Thanks for having me on 1448 01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:43.159 this morning. I still appreciate it. 1449 01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:44.039 Oh are you doing? 1450 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:47.279 It's my public behind the microphone. It doesn't get any 1451 01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:50.920 better than this for me, you know, it's just I'm 1452 01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:55.479 telling you, but yeah, so, yeah, everything's going fine with me. 1453 01:22:55.560 --> 01:22:58.600 It can't complain a bit. How about you? Everything going well? 1454 01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.479 Yeah, everything is going great. You know, I saw something 1455 01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:06.359 and i'll you know, I'll talk about you know during 1456 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:12.560 my screen bent. Here this showmanship from President former president 1457 01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:16.239 Donald Trump at the McDonald's. Now I talk about politics. 1458 01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:21.199 I talk about politics like people talk about sports. And 1459 01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:26.279 if people that's right, if people miss the fastball about 1460 01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:29.880 what really happened, right, they'll not understand what he did. 1461 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:33.560 So on the surface, he was highlighting the fact that 1462 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:38.079 Vice President Kamala Harris had said, Hey, I worked out 1463 01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:41.600 of McDonald's in my life, and I'm connected to the 1464 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.359 working people. McDonald's has not confirmed that she ever worked 1465 01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:48.039 at a McDonald's. She hasn't been able to show any 1466 01:23:48.039 --> 01:23:51.239 pictures or images that she worked at a McDonald's. And 1467 01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:54.119 so what President former president Donald Trump has done here, 1468 01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:56.600 he says, Listen, I'm gonna go I'm going to work 1469 01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:59.600 the friars. I'm going to spend fifteen minutes more than 1470 01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:02.520 she's here, and I'm going to force her to say 1471 01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:05.079 whether she was telling the truth about that. Now, that's 1472 01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:07.640 that's on the surface. But the other side of this 1473 01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:13.159 is right, The millions and millions of employees right right 1474 01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:16.239 that have been connected to that to what McDonald's in 1475 01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:19.119 their lifetime, meaning you as a kid who worked at 1476 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:22.800 the McDonald's, or somebody who's still working at McDonald's like 1477 01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:26.800 my son, my oldest son in Wisconsin, Milwaukee, he works 1478 01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:29.640 for corporate McDonald's. My point is that there are lots 1479 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.800 of people that are connected to this brand and it's 1480 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:36.399 made them who they are. They're they're independents who owned locations. 1481 01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:39.960 Corporate owns locations. They're one of the biggest land owners 1482 01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:42.279 in the United States of America as far as owner. 1483 01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:45.720 So he was touching on so many different points, the 1484 01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:49.399 brand of McDonald's, whether the vice president had been telling 1485 01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:53.119 the truth, the working class man or woman who might 1486 01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:55.279 have to work two or three jobs at McDonald's is 1487 01:24:55.359 --> 01:24:57.079 one of those jobs that they have to work on 1488 01:24:57.399 --> 01:25:00.439 and she's saying I worked here, but she really didn't 1489 01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:02.800 work there. I'm sharing with you. He hit on so 1490 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:05.560 many different points as a showman that if people just 1491 01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:07.720 look at it, like oh man, he showed up and 1492 01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:10.279 made some pride, they're really missing what happened yesterday. 1493 01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.159 Oh they're missing the they're missing the total story there. 1494 01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:17.039 And you know, there's been so many stories about Donald 1495 01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:21.319 Trump what they call the blue collar billionaire, because he 1496 01:25:21.359 --> 01:25:24.279 connects so well with people. I mean, even when he 1497 01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:27.720 was being prosecuted in New York and every day he 1498 01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:30.319 would go to a bodega, or he'd go out to 1499 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.000 a construction site and talk to the construction workers. He 1500 01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:37.159 seems to feel as comfort well, he's one of those guys. 1501 01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:39.520 And I kind of pride myself on this too. I 1502 01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.279 feel like I could be plopped down in any environment 1503 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.479 and connect with just about anybody. And either you have 1504 01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.479 that ability or not. If you're not comfortable in your 1505 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:51.800 own skin, if you think that certain people are below 1506 01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:54.600 you or above you, or intimidated and all this sort 1507 01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:56.640 of stuff, then you're not going to fit in. But 1508 01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:59.760 if you go in there and you are a person 1509 01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:02.479 of the people, if you talk to people and ask 1510 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:05.880 them what their concerns are and get to know the people, 1511 01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:08.960 that is where you can fit into almost any environment. 1512 01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:11.159 And I think Donald Trump does that tremendously. 1513 01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:14.000 And what I'm saying to you, Kevin, is there's so 1514 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:18.199 many people out here right now, because of inflation, are 1515 01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:21.520 having to work two jobs and pick up even a 1516 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.079 third job. They're thinking about, Oh, man, I've got to 1517 01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:27.079 work somewhere for the holidays in order for me to 1518 01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.439 make my rent, or for me to make Christmas like 1519 01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.840 it was three or four years ago, or to pay 1520 01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:36.159 for my Thanksgiving, my Thanksgiving dinner. We do not understand 1521 01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:41.439 right oftentimes. And that's what you see former President Trump 1522 01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:44.720 doing right here. He's saying I understand you, like you're saying, Kevin, 1523 01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:48.119 I'm connected to you. I understand your plight. And if 1524 01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:51.239 there's somebody out there mocking you, if there's somebody out 1525 01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:54.960 there playing like, hey, I understand you. But they really 1526 01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:58.800 didn't do this, They really didn't work at a McDonald's. 1527 01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:02.680 They really aren't. I'm the middle class. It's a major blow. 1528 01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:06.520 And I'm looking to see if the vice president's campaign 1529 01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:10.199 respond to this, because all of those videos have gone viral. 1530 01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:13.199 It'll be out on social media. They're everywhere. And I 1531 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:15.359 just want to highlight that for the public that it's 1532 01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:17.359 not just that he went there and did those frides. 1533 01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:21.279 It's the message he was sending about the economy, the corporation, 1534 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:25.039 the working class person, and whether Kamala Harris herself had 1535 01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:26.199 been telling the truth all. 1536 01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:27.680 Right, we'll pick this up on the other side of 1537 01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:29.840 the break. But you know what's interesting. I was listening 1538 01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:33.640 to Donald Trump Junior talking and he was talking about 1539 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:38.199 the economy. He goes, When Donald Trump Junior thinks twice 1540 01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:41.399 about spending the amount of money it takes to take 1541 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:44.920 my three kids to a McDonald's, you know, the economy 1542 01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:49.399 is bad. So I thought that was great. We'll pick 1543 01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:52.319 this up Christopher Smitherman on the other side of the break, 1544 01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:55.439 former vice mayor, and we'll be talking to the Smithers 1545 01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:58.159 the smither Event coming up. I'm Kevin Gordon in for 1546 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.920 Brian Thomas fifty five care see the talk station. 1547 01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:02.960 A Minute of Hope is brought to you by the 1548 01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:04.960 Linder Center of Hope. Linders Center of. 1549 01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:14.880 Coming up on seven thirty one in the morning. Kevin 1550 01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:18.119 Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC the Talk station. 1551 01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:22.279 Continue our conversation with former Vice mayor Christopher Smitherman in 1552 01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:26.199 the smither Event. Welcome and thank you so much for 1553 01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:27.199 being with us this morning. 1554 01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:29.960 Christopher, thank you so much. 1555 01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:32.520 Look, Kevin, well, before you get started, I've gotta cut 1556 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:34.920 you off. Gotta cut you off. I'm sorry I did 1557 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:36.960 do a little bit of homework. Heireen. I gotta say 1558 01:28:37.079 --> 01:28:39.399 right off the bat, thank you to your son for 1559 01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:42.960 his service to our country. And number two, congratulations, I'm 1560 01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:44.520 becoming a grandfather, so. 1561 01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:49.560 Oh thank you. I appreciate that on both of those points. 1562 01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:54.640 Let me say that what's happening in North Carolina, Florida 1563 01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:59.760 and Georgia, particularly North Carolina hard hit by the hurricane. 1564 01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:03.680 They're still over thirty people. I think the number might 1565 01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:07.199 be thirty nine people that are still missing. And what 1566 01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:10.760 is amazing about North Carolina for me as a person 1567 01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:16.079 who follows politics is their desire to vote. Meaning the 1568 01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:21.119 lines this weekend were long. People were climbing. I'm going 1569 01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:24.680 to like over mud coming from the hills of North 1570 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.880 Carolina to cast their votes. Now, if they can get 1571 01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.279 out and vote. If they can get out and vote, 1572 01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:34.520 my question is why can't other areas in our country 1573 01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:37.720 do the same with that kind of vigor and so 1574 01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:40.600 my hearts go out like yours, Kevin, to those people 1575 01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:43.800 who lost everything, their house, some of them lost their 1576 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:47.039 family members, they lost their pets. They don't know how 1577 01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:49.399 they're going to rebuild. Some of them don't even have power. 1578 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.760 It's my understanding that the former president is going to 1579 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:56.560 be visiting North Carolina today again trying to show support 1580 01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.560 and connect with the people of North Carolina. But I 1581 01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:04.239 have just be amazed by watching how they are enthusiastic 1582 01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:07.720 and making sure and FEMA, no matter what they say 1583 01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:14.199 about misinformation, failed North Carolina, failed Georgia, and failed Florida. Kevin, 1584 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:18.279 that FEMA wasn't there. They weren't the ones leading the 1585 01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.600 charge organizing the relief. And if you're listening to my 1586 01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:25.720 voice right now, right and you think that I'm exaggerating, right, 1587 01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:29.119 you weren't there. You don't understand maybe what it feels 1588 01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:32.239 like to have your house washed away and all your belongings, 1589 01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:36.079 or you lose your grandparents or your child, or your wife, 1590 01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:39.359 or your spouse or your pet. I'm telling you you 1591 01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:41.920 don't have a heart. FEMA should have been the one 1592 01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:45.479 leading it. And in the background, we're giving millions and 1593 01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:49.319 hundreds of millions of dollars away to other countries. And 1594 01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:51.560 so the backdrop I think of what you're going to 1595 01:30:51.640 --> 01:30:54.520 see in that voting, Kevin, is that people are going 1596 01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:56.960 to come out and send a very strong message in 1597 01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:00.199 North Carolina and in Georgia and in Florida. Thing that 1598 01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:02.640 the poles are not going to pick up of people 1599 01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:06.000 being frustrated with how the White House treated them when 1600 01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:09.800 they needed them the most, while they were sending hundreds 1601 01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:12.079 of millions of dollars overseas. 1602 01:31:12.359 --> 01:31:14.600 I sure as hell hope so. And you know, all 1603 01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:17.279 you have to do is drive around the city of Cincinnati, 1604 01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:20.079 northern Kentucky and so on. And every time we get 1605 01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:22.560 in the car and we're driving along on these roads 1606 01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:25.720 and stuff, my wife the first thing from her is 1607 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:31.880 with our it's like riding on the wagon train, all 1608 01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:36.840 the ruts and the potholes and uneven pavement and stuff, 1609 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:41.600 and it's like, we are living like this, and yet 1610 01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:44.800 we're sending billions and trillions of dollars overseas. 1611 01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:50.319 Are you nuts that that is what Americans are thinking. 1612 01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:53.439 I think out there that are saying, it's time to 1613 01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:57.239 put our country first. It's time to put the people first. 1614 01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:02.640 And what the hurricane has done, it has emphasized, or 1615 01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.079 it has highlighted for the public and the world that 1616 01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:10.359 FEMA wasn't ready, The government wasn't ready, not only financially, 1617 01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.960 but they also were not ready to mobilize and help 1618 01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:17.079 their own people. How can you help the people in 1619 01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:21.880 Ukraine or help the people in Lebanon, And you can't 1620 01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:26.800 help the people in the United States of America North Carolina, 1621 01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:28.680 Georgia or Florida. 1622 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:30.439 Now, And how can you give all this money and 1623 01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:34.079 a lot of this stuff, Christopher Smitherman to all of 1624 01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:39.159 these these cities and the illegal aliens that are in 1625 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:42.279 this illegal immigrants that are in this country. And you 1626 01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:45.760 know this is not anti immigrant, this is coming into 1627 01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:48.640 the You want people to come into your country legally 1628 01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:51.720 and according to the law, not break the law, and 1629 01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:56.119 accommodate them and assimilate into the population as opposed to 1630 01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:59.840 this invasion that we've been seeing that okay, the borders 1631 01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.479 secure for the last three and a half years, when 1632 01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:03.439 we know it hasn't been. 1633 01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:09.279 Look, first, I agree with you, and again that underscores Kevin, 1634 01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:13.039 what the country is saying as they get out and vote. 1635 01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:16.079 We're in the middle of an election, so people are 1636 01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:18.680 early voting all over the place. They're listening to you 1637 01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:22.079 and I talk, and they're trying to decide what candidates, 1638 01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:25.920 not just national candidates, but what local candidates they're going 1639 01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:28.960 to support. And so when they feel like, oh my goodness, 1640 01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:32.680 we all knew the hurricane was coming, but they couldn't 1641 01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:36.640 even mobilize the National Guard, or they could not mobilize 1642 01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:41.319 federal assets, helicopters, whatever they needed to get supplies into 1643 01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:44.319 the hills of North Carolina. As one of many examples, 1644 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.760 they're going to say, why would I promote you to 1645 01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:51.079 the next level? These are just basic things that Americans 1646 01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:53.560 are talking about. I want to pivot because I know 1647 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:55.159 I don't have a lot of time, and I want 1648 01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:57.840 to talk about the Catholic vote. Let me be clear, 1649 01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:00.600 I am Catholic, my family Catholic. 1650 01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:01.600 Hey, can we put. 1651 01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:03.319 The Catholic Christopher? 1652 01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:04.920 Can we pick this up on the other side of 1653 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:07.000 the break. We'll do that and atle pivot to that. 1654 01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:10.159 My guest is Christopher Smitherman and the smither Vent And 1655 01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:13.960 of course you're also talking to a person that spent 1656 01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:16.239 two years in the seminary, so we've got a little 1657 01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:19.840 bit of common there. We'll pick this up on the 1658 01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:21.479 other side of the break. I'm Kevin Gordon in for 1659 01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.359 Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the talk station. 1660 01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:27.279 What's the best place to reach new customers for your business? 1661 01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:32.279 Seven in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas 1662 01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:35.439 fifty five k R see the talk station. Continue our 1663 01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:40.600 conversation with former Vice Mayor Christopher Smitherman and the smither event. Well, 1664 01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:44.479 when you took a break, we talked about the being 1665 01:34:44.479 --> 01:34:48.039 a Catholic and a Roman Catholic and how I want 1666 01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:50.640 to talk to the Catholics out there, And of course 1667 01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:54.000 I mentioned that I spent two years in seminary, so 1668 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:56.439 I know exactly what you're talking about. And I've got 1669 01:34:56.680 --> 01:35:02.199 seventeen years of Catholic education, So yeah, exactly. 1670 01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:05.279 And I just think that when you the Al Smith 1671 01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:11.079 event this past weekend in New York, they raised nine 1672 01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:16.359 million dollars for Catholic charity. You know, historically presidential candidates 1673 01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:18.720 went there. It was the time to kind of cool 1674 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:22.479 the engines, have some fun, laid back. I thought it 1675 01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:26.479 was a mistake for the Harris campaign not to show up. 1676 01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:27.159 Uh. 1677 01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:29.680 But but when you layer on what happened with the 1678 01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:34.039 with Governor Whitmer in in uh in Michigan, with the 1679 01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:38.079 Dorrito and the ladies kneeling down like she was taking 1680 01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:41.279 her first communion. When you layer those things on, you 1681 01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:45.800 layer these two young men in in Wisconsin this weekend. 1682 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:48.439 So We're not talking about twenty years ago. Just this 1683 01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:52.680 past weekend, who said Jesus is more and the vice president, 1684 01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:55.399 Kamala Harris said, hey, you're at the wrong place. You 1685 01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:59.000 need to go somewhere else. This is you know, when 1686 01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:02.039 they're when they're when they're literally shouting out the name 1687 01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:06.039 of Jesus these and then when they did that, Kevin, 1688 01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:09.800 the audience turned on those two young men, push them out, 1689 01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:12.600 put their hands on them. I thought that was an 1690 01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.960 assault on them. But my point is that there just 1691 01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:21.000 seems to be this drum beat about Catholics, and I 1692 01:36:21.039 --> 01:36:25.279 think it is a major mistake for this campaign alienating 1693 01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:27.800 Catholic voters. Now they're going to be Catholic voters, as 1694 01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:31.399 you know, Kevin, who are going to vote for vote 1695 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.600 for Democrats, they're going to vote for Independents, they're going 1696 01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:36.880 to vote for Republicans. I'm just saying they're giving a 1697 01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:41.079 reason for Catholics, meaning my family were Catholic, to say 1698 01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:44.039 no to them based on how they're showing respect or 1699 01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:45.520 no respect for the Catholic faith. 1700 01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:48.600 Well they have. I mean, you can go back years 1701 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:51.720 ago where they had what somebody was doing some sort 1702 01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:58.720 of fake sexual act and pew during one of the 1703 01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:05.000 services at Saint Patrick Church. You've had disruptions, services and 1704 01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:09.239 so on. You would never ever, ever, ever see any 1705 01:37:09.239 --> 01:37:13.760 of these so called brave souls do anything to desecrate 1706 01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:17.720 the Quran or to say anything against the Muslim or religion. 1707 01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:20.880 But it seems like the Jewish faith and the Catholic faith, 1708 01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:23.960 it's open season no matter what time of day it is, 1709 01:37:24.199 --> 01:37:26.039 what time of the year it is, and that should 1710 01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:28.680 give some pause to people in both religions to say, 1711 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:31.640 just exactly who do we support and why do we 1712 01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:33.399 support them? 1713 01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:37.479 That is well said, absolutely well said. And I know 1714 01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:39.279 we don't have a lot of time. I just want 1715 01:37:39.319 --> 01:37:42.000 to say we have an election. As obvious, early voting 1716 01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:46.560 is happening here in most states across the United States 1717 01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:49.520 of America. I want the public to know that Melissa 1718 01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:53.840 Powers is at the top of my radar. She's the 1719 01:37:54.479 --> 01:38:01.319 Hamilton County prosecutor. I'm supporting Sheriff Jim Neil Adam Koehler 1720 01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:04.840 who's running for county commissioner. These are just some examples. 1721 01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:09.199 Orlando's Fonza is in a tough race. There are some 1722 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:12.039 really big races out there. Is my point that I 1723 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:13.880 think people should really hone in on. And one of 1724 01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:16.560 the mistakes that people make, Kevin, is they go in 1725 01:38:16.720 --> 01:38:19.640 and they vote for the president only and then walk 1726 01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:22.960 out they vote down the entire ticket. And so I 1727 01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:25.279 bring this up saying, there are a lot of good 1728 01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:28.680 people that are out here running for office. Please don't 1729 01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:31.680 make the mistake of going in and just voting for 1730 01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:35.680 the national ticket whoever you're supporting, and then not voting 1731 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:38.840 down the rest of the great Americans who are running 1732 01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:41.960 for office in your area. Because bottom line, Kevin, as 1733 01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:45.920 you know, politics are local. Don't miss those big elections. 1734 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:47.960 They affect your life on a daily basis. 1735 01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:50.560 Yeah, exactly. You make a great point there. They're the 1736 01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:53.159 ones that affect your life every day. Now, you got 1737 01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:55.800 the people in Washington and so on the control it 1738 01:38:56.760 --> 01:39:00.600 on a national basis, but everything is local. And as 1739 01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:04.640 I've said before, is that as these people show up 1740 01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:06.399 to your house or you go to and and I 1741 01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:09.119 suggest that everybody go to as many of these campaign 1742 01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:12.479 rallies or or talk to as many candidates as possible. 1743 01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:17.439 They are doing a one to one interview. They are 1744 01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:19.319 coming to you and asking you for one of the 1745 01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:22.159 most precious things that you have and that's your vote. 1746 01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:24.640 And what you should do is go in with the 1747 01:39:24.680 --> 01:39:28.760 idea of Okay, here is what's important to me. Here 1748 01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:31.479 are the top two or three or four issues. And 1749 01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:34.199 when you talk to that candidate, you ask them where 1750 01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:36.640 do you stand on this issue? Where do you stand 1751 01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:39.399 on this issue? And where do you stand on this issue? 1752 01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:43.239 And it depending upon those answers. That is who you 1753 01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:46.760 give your vote to, not necessarily the party, but the 1754 01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:49.640 person that is going to stand up for you with 1755 01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:50.960 the values that you have. 1756 01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:55.520 Absolutely. You know, when I go out and I talk 1757 01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:58.560 to voters, and I'm doing that now on an active 1758 01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:03.520 basis of you know, restaurant, sometimes door to door, sometimes neighbors. 1759 01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:06.920 There's a lot of energy out there for people who 1760 01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:11.800 are wanting to participate. But when you vote early, what happens, Kevin. 1761 01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:14.760 You know this. You bank your vote and it allows 1762 01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:18.279 the campaign that you're interested in winning to focus on 1763 01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:21.479 those unlikely voters. So you get yourself out of the 1764 01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:24.159 way so that they already know you voted, they can 1765 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:26.600 go knock on those doors and get those people out 1766 01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:29.279 that haven't voting. The voting early is just a part 1767 01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:31.399 of the game now, I meaning people are saying, man, 1768 01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.079 I'm a traditionalist. I'm only going to vote on election day. 1769 01:40:34.239 --> 01:40:36.760 Look the game and the rules that change, you've got 1770 01:40:36.800 --> 01:40:40.199 to change with it. And by voting early, it allows 1771 01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:43.439 those campaigns to go to those houses where people have 1772 01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:46.720 not shown up and spend their money on getting those 1773 01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:50.239 voters out and not you because you've already banked your vote. 1774 01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:53.479 Yeah. I've never been a big fan of early voting, 1775 01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:56.159 but I have kind of changed since last election, and 1776 01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:58.399 I'm kind of seeing more of the benefits of it, 1777 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:00.960 just as you just mentioned in terms of banking your 1778 01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:04.199 vote so they can spend their resources on the people 1779 01:41:04.239 --> 01:41:07.399 that they need to target in those particular and then again, 1780 01:41:07.760 --> 01:41:10.079 you never know what the heck happens. You never know 1781 01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:12.760 what's going to happen on election day, and you want 1782 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:14.800 to make sure that you don't leave anything the chance. 1783 01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:17.880 That is so that is so true, Kevin. Thank you 1784 01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:20.479 so much for having me on. And you know, I 1785 01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:24.279 always love coming on on Mondays and and and talking 1786 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:27.279 about the I think pertinent issues that people should be 1787 01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:30.680 focusing on as they go through this week. And I 1788 01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:34.119 just encourage people to not fall into the trap that 1789 01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:37.239 my vote doesn't count exactly your vote does count. You 1790 01:41:37.399 --> 01:41:42.479 matter in this country. And my ex account or Twitter account, 1791 01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:46.000 whatever people call it, is at vote Smitherman and that's 1792 01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:49.479 where people can follow me until next time on Monday. 1793 01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:53.119 All right, Former Vice Mayor Christopher Smitherman, thank you so 1794 01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:54.319 much for spending time with us. 1795 01:41:54.319 --> 01:41:55.800 Thank you, thank you. 1796 01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:59.920 You take care, have a great week. So many pertinent 1797 01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:05.119 points there. And you know we are not in a situation. 1798 01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:06.960 I mean, you know when he talked about the people 1799 01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:10.560 in North Carolina, you know, crawling through mud in order 1800 01:42:10.600 --> 01:42:13.000 to do this. You know your vote is the most 1801 01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:15.640 important thing. And don't get well, it's too late to 1802 01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:18.319 register now, but a lot of people say they don't 1803 01:42:18.359 --> 01:42:20.000 register or they don't vote because they don't want to 1804 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:22.560 get on the radar screen for jury duty. If you've 1805 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:25.159 got a driver's license, if you pay property taxes, if 1806 01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:27.960 you pay income taxes, if you have any connection with 1807 01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:31.800 any type of governmental agency anyway, you are on that 1808 01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:35.720 list as far as potential jurors. So uh, don't let 1809 01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:38.680 your don't let the idea of voting stand in your 1810 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:43.000 way of expressing your opinion. And this is your government, 1811 01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:46.840 this is what you want, and it's up to you 1812 01:42:47.159 --> 01:42:50.479 to express that phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, 1813 01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:52.880 fifty five, hundred one, eight hundred eighty two three talk 1814 01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:55.319 one eight hundred eight two three eight two five five pound, 1815 01:42:55.399 --> 01:42:58.520 five fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in 1816 01:42:58.640 --> 01:43:01.359 for Brian Thomas, fifty five five K. See the talk 1817 01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:05.079 station Man B nine. First warning weather forecast Today in 1818 01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:07.720 the morning rush hour, we're gonna see clear sky's patche 1819 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:12.479 fog is possible in a lower forty six. 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Loading up on the highways, 1830 01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:46.279 he spent two seventy five are wrecked at Montgomery. It 1831 01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:49.239 is on the right hand side now west too. Seventy five. 1832 01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:53.319 There's an accident near Montgomery inbound seventy four backs up 1833 01:43:53.319 --> 01:43:54.319 above Montana. 1834 01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:56.000 The latest is with injuries. 1835 01:43:56.039 --> 01:43:58.960 That's on Red Bank ed Eary Chuck Ingram on fifty 1836 01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:00.880 five KR see the station. 1837 01:44:07.600 --> 01:44:09.720 Seven fifty two in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for 1838 01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:13.439 Brian Thomas, fifty five krc DE talk station. Coming up 1839 01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:14.640 to the top of the hour, We're going to be 1840 01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:18.199 talking to Stephen Doane. He is a attorney and also 1841 01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.840 Kentucky State representative. We're going to be talking about Constitutional 1842 01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.479 Issue Amendment number two over there in the state of Kentucky. 1843 01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:29.880 And I know Brian talked to Jim Waters about that 1844 01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:33.560 on Thursday. But there's a couple of other things questions 1845 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:35.159 that I have and some of the things that people 1846 01:44:35.199 --> 01:44:37.479 have been bringing up to me. So we'll be talking 1847 01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:41.359 about that one thing. A quick story here about some 1848 01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:44.199 things that I'm seeing. I talked about the economy earlier 1849 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:47.199 where people are kind of pulling back and so on. Well, 1850 01:44:47.359 --> 01:44:51.720 this story last week saw, you know, when it doesn't 1851 01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:56.479 absolutely positively have to get there tomorrow. More people are 1852 01:44:56.520 --> 01:45:00.960 switching to slower delivery options to save money and profits. 1853 01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:05.359 At FedEx Corp. And ups are starting to get squeezed 1854 01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:08.920 as a result of that, because you know, people instead 1855 01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:11.399 of getting this next day delivery where you're paying extra 1856 01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:14.760 money for that, people are backing off of that and saying, 1857 01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:17.319 you know, I really don't need it tomorrow. I don't 1858 01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:19.840 need it. You know, we'll just do whatever the normal 1859 01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:24.600 process is. And what I've noticed is that, especially online 1860 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:28.199 shopping and stuff, sometimes if you just go the regular way, 1861 01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:31.039 it gets there just as fast as if you ordered 1862 01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:36.199 it overnight. And so a way of economizing people pulling back. 1863 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:38.399 These are kind of some of the extras that people 1864 01:45:38.600 --> 01:45:41.479 when they start squeezing their own bottom line when they 1865 01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:44.079 look at their paycheck, when they see that their paycheck 1866 01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:46.800 isn't lasting as long as the month is, this is 1867 01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:49.520 where those some of those areas where you economize. We've 1868 01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:52.159 talked about how other things, and that would be whoo 1869 01:45:52.199 --> 01:45:54.640 of you to kind of take a look at where 1870 01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:56.880 you're spending your money. You know, is this really all 1871 01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:01.720 that necessary? Do I really need that defensive cup of coffee? 1872 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:06.439 Why don't I try something, you know, a regular brew 1873 01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:09.800 or something that you like that looks interesting at home? 1874 01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:13.399 The cost of brewing your own coffee at home is 1875 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:15.079 a heck of a lot cheaper than going to one 1876 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:20.119 of these overpriced stores. And you know who I'm talking about. 1877 01:46:20.359 --> 01:46:22.159 And when you start looking at that in terms of 1878 01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:24.359 where you can spend your money and how you can 1879 01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:27.560 squeeze a dollar here and there, goes a long way 1880 01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:31.199 to extend that paycheck of yours. So just a little 1881 01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:33.520 bit of stuff there, it's kind of I found that interesting. 1882 01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:36.760 People actually starting to save Gosh, do I really need 1883 01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:40.720 this tomorrow? Maybe not coming up again. We've got Stephen 1884 01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:43.520 Dunnan when we talk about Constitutional Amendment number two. I'm 1885 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:46.960 Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas. Fifty five KRC, the 1886 01:46:47.159 --> 01:46:48.000 talk station. 1887 01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:52.359 Your campaign fitstop on the roads in November helps me 1888 01:46:52.439 --> 01:46:54.920 make an informed choice this November. I will call it 1889 01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:57.439 fifty five KRC the talk Station. 1890 01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:10.840 This report is paid for eight oh five in the morning. 1891 01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:13.279 Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five k R 1892 01:47:13.439 --> 01:47:18.319 see the talk station. Joining me as attorney Stephen Doane. 1893 01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:22.720 He is a also a Kentucky state representative. We're gonna 1894 01:47:22.760 --> 01:47:26.640 be talking about this Constitution of Kentucky Constitutional Amendment too. 1895 01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:32.359 And I'm well, Steven, where do we stand with this? 1896 01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:36.079 And should we talk about the actual the wording of 1897 01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:39.640 the amendment first, or what it purports to do or 1898 01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:41.079 what where do you want to go here? 1899 01:47:42.520 --> 01:47:44.520 You know, I think we can probably talk about the 1900 01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:48.279 language on on the ballot measure. And so, you know 1901 01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:51.319 what the ballot What the ballot measure essentially says is 1902 01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:54.720 there's a question, and it says, are you in favor 1903 01:47:54.920 --> 01:47:59.439 of allowing, you know, tax dollars public tax dollars to 1904 01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:03.520 flow outside of the system of common schools? And so 1905 01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:06.119 what we're looking at here, what we're trying to accomplish 1906 01:48:06.199 --> 01:48:09.119 here is to have a conversation down in Frankfurt to 1907 01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:14.239 see if we can get some of these educational choice 1908 01:48:14.279 --> 01:48:16.600 opportunities throughout our commonwealth. 1909 01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:20.079 Now, as far as the language of the bill, it 1910 01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:24.239 says to give parents choice and educational opportunities for their children. 1911 01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:27.239 Are you in favor of enabling the General Assembly to 1912 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:30.960 provide financial support for the education costs of students in 1913 01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:35.159 kindergarten through twelfth grade who are outside the system of 1914 01:48:35.319 --> 01:48:39.640 common in Princess public schools by amending the Constitution of Kentucky. 1915 01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:43.159 As Stata below, it is proposed that the new section 1916 01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:47.520 be added to the Constitution General Assembly may provide financial support 1917 01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:51.359 for the education of students outside the system of common schools. 1918 01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:54.800 General Assembly may exercise this authority by law, and then 1919 01:48:54.840 --> 01:48:57.920 they indicate the individual sections of the Constitution that have 1920 01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:01.039 to be changed by that. So basically it says that 1921 01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:04.920 you know, I guess more than anything else, it's an 1922 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:09.119 opportunity of school choice. Now I have heard some people 1923 01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:13.960 selling this as well. Originally this is for people who 1924 01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:18.359 are of a lower means as an opportunity for them 1925 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:21.960 to get their kids into public schools. There's really no 1926 01:49:22.359 --> 01:49:26.680 plan right now, or there's no format for this as 1927 01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:29.840 to how the money or how this is going to 1928 01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:32.680 be done or implemented. At this point. It's just giving 1929 01:49:32.840 --> 01:49:38.800 the state legislature and the ability to put something into place. Correct, 1930 01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:40.399 So there's. 1931 01:49:40.159 --> 01:49:43.399 No trigger law in place, so you know, once this 1932 01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:48.960 ballot measure passes, nothing's going to happen, nothing's going to change. 1933 01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:52.359 What is going to change is the ability for the 1934 01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:55.199 state legislature to come in and to open up the 1935 01:49:55.239 --> 01:49:58.079 door to some of these programs. So, you know, one 1936 01:49:58.119 --> 01:50:00.119 of the things on the other side, the opposite is 1937 01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:03.479 saying that you know, it's going to be a voucher system. 1938 01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:06.239 Or it's going to be something. Honestly, we don't know yet. 1939 01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:09.760 We have to have a further conversation among the you know, 1940 01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:12.119 folks in rural Kentucky where they have a lot of 1941 01:50:12.159 --> 01:50:16.079 power and say over this issue. What you can do, though, 1942 01:50:16.119 --> 01:50:18.119 is you can look at the past. You can look 1943 01:50:18.119 --> 01:50:19.680 at some of the things we've done in the past 1944 01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:24.119 and how we got here. There were educational opportunity accounts, 1945 01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:28.039 which were basically just tax credits that you could use 1946 01:50:28.439 --> 01:50:31.640 sending your child to a private institution or just any 1947 01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:34.880 institution outside of the common schools, and you would just 1948 01:50:34.960 --> 01:50:37.119 get money back on your taxes. You get your tax 1949 01:50:37.159 --> 01:50:40.880 dollars back to go towards your child's education. And what 1950 01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.600 happened was the Supreme Court found that to be unconstitutional 1951 01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:47.960 based on some of those sections that are mentioned there 1952 01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:51.079 and that ballot proposal. And so what we've got to 1953 01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:52.680 do now is if we want to have these types 1954 01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:56.800 of programs in Kentucky, which you know, forty eight states 1955 01:50:56.960 --> 01:50:59.399 have these types of programs, It's not like it's a 1956 01:50:59.439 --> 01:51:04.119 novel thing. We've got to have this constitutional amendment now. 1957 01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:09.880 Stephen Done, state Representative's my guest, I'm looking at some 1958 01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:13.760 of the literatures, and the other side is talking about 1959 01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:17.439 that it's defunding our public schools, where ninety percent of 1960 01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:22.079 our kids attend. Many of our public schools are already underfunded, 1961 01:51:22.960 --> 01:51:26.079 forcing public schools to close, failing to address a teacher 1962 01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:30.319 shortage or improve our public schools. I think those, quite honestly, 1963 01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:34.239 are probably some scare tactics, because this does nothing at 1964 01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:38.600 this point other than opening the door to allow some 1965 01:51:38.640 --> 01:51:40.880 sort of format of school choice. 1966 01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:45.680 Sure, so you know, I'm also a family law attorney, 1967 01:51:45.880 --> 01:51:49.319 and one of the things that happens in a divorce 1968 01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:51.640 or in a custody battle is, you know, people got 1969 01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:54.159 to decide where their kids go to school. And in 1970 01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:56.600 northern Kentucky, a lot of folks send their kids to 1971 01:51:56.680 --> 01:52:00.359 private school, and so I know what the private school's 1972 01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:02.680 up your charge? Some of them are, you know, six 1973 01:52:02.720 --> 01:52:06.239 thousand a semester or you know, six thousand a year 1974 01:52:06.279 --> 01:52:09.319 in some cases, and then they offer scholarships as well 1975 01:52:09.399 --> 01:52:12.159 to some of these folks. When you look at on 1976 01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:17.479 average public school funding in Kentucky, we spend about eighteen 1977 01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:22.479 thousand dollars per student, and so you're seeing you're seeing 1978 01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:25.199 outcomes in the private sector that you're not seeing in 1979 01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:28.600 the public sector much better outcomes in the private sector 1980 01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:32.560 than the public And you know, the scare tactics of 1981 01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:35.399 not having money in our schools is kind of and 1982 01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:38.439 it's exactly what it is, the scare tactic. The private 1983 01:52:38.439 --> 01:52:41.000 schools are outperforming the public schools and they have far 1984 01:52:41.079 --> 01:52:41.680 less money. 1985 01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:44.960 Let's pause here, let's pause here for a moment. Let 1986 01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:49.520 something sink in. You mentioned the cost per student, or 1987 01:52:49.560 --> 01:52:54.000 the money spent in the state of Kentucky per student. 1988 01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:57.920 Is eighteen thousand dollars on average. 1989 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:02.119 You know, it wasn't within the last day. It was 1990 01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:07.279 not more than a decade ago that eighteen thousand dollars 1991 01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:10.800 a year was about the price of some of these 1992 01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:15.960 colleges and universities around And now we're talking about this 1993 01:53:16.520 --> 01:53:21.840 just for k through twelve and so on. The expensive 1994 01:53:21.920 --> 01:53:27.319 have gotten so out of whack. And what is interesting is, 1995 01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:30.960 and I've read some things where not only in the 1996 01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:34.119 state of Ohio, but in the state of Kentucky that 1997 01:53:34.279 --> 01:53:42.079 the amount of administrators versus teachers did. I read that 1998 01:53:42.479 --> 01:53:49.680 the increase in the number of money spent towards administrators, principles, 1999 01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:53.239 et cetera in these schools has jumped by ninety three 2000 01:53:53.319 --> 01:53:57.000 percent in the last few years, and yet the amount 2001 01:53:57.039 --> 01:53:59.680 of teachers and so on has only increased by like 2002 01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:04.760 forty I don't know if that number is accurate or whatever. 2003 01:54:04.399 --> 01:54:04.560 But. 2004 01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:08.800 Well, I don't know the exact numbers on that. It 2005 01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:13.119 doesn't sound too far off from reality. But our superintendents 2006 01:54:13.159 --> 01:54:16.880 here in northern Kentucky, the public school superintendents gave a 2007 01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:20.279 press conference, and during the press conference, they decided that 2008 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:25.039 if the General Assembly did a Florida type voucher system, 2009 01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:28.119 which again was not necessarily what we're going to do. 2010 01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:30.760 We don't know what we're going to do yet, it 2011 01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:34.359 would cost the public schools one point one nine billion 2012 01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:37.159 dollars and as a result, they said they would have 2013 01:54:37.239 --> 01:54:41.560 to cut nine thousand, eight hundred and sixty nine jobs. 2014 01:54:42.159 --> 01:54:45.520 When you do the math, that's one hundred and twenty 2015 01:54:45.600 --> 01:54:51.159 thousand dollars per job. They're not talking about teachers, frontline 2016 01:54:51.199 --> 01:54:53.439 teachers that they're going to have to cut. They're talking 2017 01:54:53.479 --> 01:54:55.920 about those high price school administrators that they're going to 2018 01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:56.520 have to cut. 2019 01:54:56.800 --> 01:54:58.600 Would National wear all the money. 2020 01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:02.439 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's where all the bloat is. The 2021 01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:05.439 money's not necessarily going directly to the students. It's going 2022 01:55:05.479 --> 01:55:08.000 to go fund systems. And that's what one of the 2023 01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:10.439 catch phrases you'll hear is, we're trying to fund students, 2024 01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:11.159 not systems. 2025 01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:13.800 Yeah, and I can remember, you know, the point where 2026 01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:16.800 my grandkids are now in grades well they're out of 2027 01:55:16.840 --> 01:55:21.159 grade school now, but going to the parent the grandparents' 2028 01:55:21.239 --> 01:55:23.640 day and this sort of thing, and going into the 2029 01:55:23.680 --> 01:55:30.199 schools and seeing that, Okay, the desks look like they've 2030 01:55:30.239 --> 01:55:33.399 been there for forty years, the ceiling tiles look like 2031 01:55:33.439 --> 01:55:37.560 they haven't been replaced in twenty twenty five years, the fixtures, 2032 01:55:37.960 --> 01:55:40.920 and you're looking at the books and so on that 2033 01:55:41.039 --> 01:55:44.439 haven't been updated. And you realize that the number of 2034 01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:48.239 students in that classroom at twenty twenty two or whatever 2035 01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:52.159 time is the amount of money per student. You're like, 2036 01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:55.159 where in the hell is this money going to. It's 2037 01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:58.399 certainly not going to the infrastructure. It's not going to 2038 01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:02.800 the obviously the teachers. It's going someplace. And then going 2039 01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:05.640 to the books and so on, you got to figure 2040 01:56:05.680 --> 01:56:08.359 it's going to the administrators and so on, and it's appalling, 2041 01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:12.600 especially when you look at the test scores and proficiency 2042 01:56:12.680 --> 01:56:15.960 and so on. It's just a mind boggling. 2043 01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:20.560 Absolutely. And one of the things, you know, and I 2044 01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:23.199 do want to get to this point on the money side, 2045 01:56:23.359 --> 01:56:27.319 forty eight percent of our state budget in Kentucky goes 2046 01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:31.920 to public education, and so we're already spending you know, 2047 01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:34.800 money hand over fist in order to fund these these 2048 01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:39.479 systems and these schools. And we also already allow public 2049 01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:42.520 money to go to private institutions. So you know, if 2050 01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:45.880 you're a high school student and you attend class and 2051 01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:49.000 you make good grades, you'll get Keys money. We have 2052 01:56:49.119 --> 01:56:51.439 Keys money, and you can take that Keys money to 2053 01:56:51.640 --> 01:56:56.479 any Kentucky university and we'll literally pay you to go 2054 01:56:56.520 --> 01:56:59.960 to school, and you can take that money to private university. 2055 01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:02.640 So it's not like it's a novel thing that we're 2056 01:57:02.640 --> 01:57:05.399 doing or allowing folks to take money out of their 2057 01:57:05.439 --> 01:57:09.720 system to go to, you know, a more efficient school 2058 01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:10.600 school district. 2059 01:57:11.479 --> 01:57:16.359 And Stephen Doane, I guess we when I'm looking at 2060 01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:19.479 some of the things that they're talking about, and this 2061 01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:23.800 would almost I've read something where they were going to 2062 01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:28.119 possibly if there was going to be something funded by this, 2063 01:57:28.279 --> 01:57:32.119 that it would be funded by private institutions or by 2064 01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:37.920 what was the thing in terms of that it would 2065 01:57:37.960 --> 01:57:41.600 be a separate set of funds set up, that it 2066 01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:46.000 wouldn't take money directly out of the current education system, 2067 01:57:46.319 --> 01:57:49.159 that this would be a separate pot of money. Is 2068 01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:50.279 that accurate. 2069 01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:56.079 I'm school funding is very difficult to understand, and it 2070 01:57:56.119 --> 01:57:58.199 takes you know, I'm on the Education committee and it 2071 01:57:58.199 --> 01:58:00.800 took me a while to figure out how it works. 2072 01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:04.000 We've got what's called the Sikh formula. And so what 2073 01:58:04.039 --> 01:58:08.760 the Sikh formula does is it allocates essentially how much 2074 01:58:08.840 --> 01:58:11.760 state money can come in and how much local money 2075 01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:14.359 comes in, and then you do a balancing based on 2076 01:58:14.439 --> 01:58:18.479 income and based on you know, property tax rates and 2077 01:58:18.520 --> 01:58:21.760 based on home values within a district. And it's a 2078 01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:24.800 complicated formula, and you know, you spit out a number. 2079 01:58:25.039 --> 01:58:28.920 And basically we had raised to seek formula in the 2080 01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.239 last legislative session, and I think it's about forty two 2081 01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:34.720 hundred dollars per student that the state kicks in. The 2082 01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:37.039 rest of that money I mentioned that eighteen thousand dollars 2083 01:58:37.119 --> 01:58:40.000 number earlier. The rest of that is your local property 2084 01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:43.880 tax money coming in and funding the school districts. And 2085 01:58:43.960 --> 01:58:47.000 so one of the proposals that's out there is to 2086 01:58:47.039 --> 01:58:49.279 just allow that seek money to follow the student. So 2087 01:58:49.279 --> 01:58:52.039 we're talking about forty two hundred dollars, which would leave 2088 01:58:52.119 --> 01:58:56.560 there about you know, fourteen fifteen thousand dollars in those 2089 01:58:56.560 --> 01:59:00.239 public schools with no student mind you, you know that 2090 01:59:00.359 --> 01:59:02.560 money would flow out and so you could actually do 2091 01:59:02.680 --> 01:59:05.479 things like pay teachers more, or you know, fit to 2092 01:59:05.520 --> 01:59:08.720 the broken tiles you were talking about, or you know, 2093 01:59:08.800 --> 01:59:10.560 update the desks with that extra money. 2094 01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:13.720 And I think the important component of this is competition. 2095 01:59:14.479 --> 01:59:17.239 If the public schools are so great, if they're so 2096 01:59:17.439 --> 01:59:20.520 wonderful and they do such a great job, they wouldn't 2097 01:59:20.560 --> 01:59:24.800 have to worry about the competition from other schools siphoning 2098 01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:28.720 that money off. And so when you are if you 2099 01:59:28.840 --> 01:59:33.960 don't think that you're providing the best system possible, then 2100 01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:37.079 of course you're going to want to protect that against 2101 01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:40.359 anything that would try to improve that. And that almost 2102 01:59:40.359 --> 01:59:45.600 seems like where the opposition to this is coming from. 2103 01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:48.840 Yeah, and you never saw greater competition than when we 2104 01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:53.039 went through the COVID lockdowns with respective public schools. A 2105 01:59:53.119 --> 01:59:54.960 number of parents were fed up with the way that 2106 01:59:55.039 --> 02:00:00.199 they were doing things, and you saw significant decree is 2107 02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:03.319 an enrollment in public schools and folks just went out 2108 02:00:03.359 --> 02:00:06.399 and amazing decided that, yeah, that they were going to 2109 02:00:06.479 --> 02:00:08.560 homeschool their kids or take them out of that system, 2110 02:00:08.600 --> 02:00:11.039 put them somewhere else where they could actually get an 2111 02:00:11.119 --> 02:00:12.520 education that wasn't on a computer. 2112 02:00:13.399 --> 02:00:16.800 All this does is all this Mment two does is 2113 02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:20.560 allow the basis for to come up with a funding 2114 02:00:20.640 --> 02:00:24.039 program or how to implement this. There is nothing set 2115 02:00:24.079 --> 02:00:29.000 in stone currently, whether it's not encouraging vouchers, although that 2116 02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:31.560 could be part of it, but nothing is set at 2117 02:00:31.560 --> 02:00:34.600 this time, just to allow to have the conversation. 2118 02:00:34.800 --> 02:00:40.800 Basically, that's absolutely right, and we had just the makeup 2119 02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:44.079 of Kentucky, there's a you know, everybody thinks it's Republican 2120 02:00:44.159 --> 02:00:47.319 versus Democrat. One of the biggest fights is actually urban 2121 02:00:47.439 --> 02:00:52.000 versus rural in Kentucky. And so the rural folks are 2122 02:00:52.039 --> 02:00:55.439 really pro school. You know, they've got probably the biggest 2123 02:00:55.479 --> 02:00:58.039 employer most of the counties of the public school district. 2124 02:00:58.279 --> 02:00:59.720 And so if you even look at how some of 2125 02:00:59.760 --> 02:01:02.960 the gout down their vote, they vote against an amendment 2126 02:01:03.039 --> 02:01:06.079 like this, despite them being some of the more conservative members. 2127 02:01:06.479 --> 02:01:08.800 And so that fight is still yet to be had. 2128 02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:10.439 You know, we've got to make sure that we are 2129 02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:13.319 still protecting our public schools and making sure that they 2130 02:01:13.399 --> 02:01:16.319 run efficiently and do good, but at the same time 2131 02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:18.840 allow people an opportunity that want to get out of 2132 02:01:18.840 --> 02:01:22.119 that system and can't otherwise get out because they just 2133 02:01:22.159 --> 02:01:24.760 don't have the finances for it, to take their tax 2134 02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:27.279 dollars somewhere else and go get that education they want 2135 02:01:27.279 --> 02:01:27.960 for their children. 2136 02:01:28.079 --> 02:01:30.359 Fantastic. Well, this is something that people need to read 2137 02:01:30.439 --> 02:01:32.359 up on. They need to know where they stand on this, 2138 02:01:32.479 --> 02:01:35.680 and in my opinion, I think a yes on Amendment 2139 02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:40.880 too is necessary. Attorney Stephen Doane and Kentucky also a 2140 02:01:40.920 --> 02:01:43.479 state representative, thank you so much for spending time with 2141 02:01:43.560 --> 02:01:47.000 us and adding some clarity to this. We'll hope for 2142 02:01:47.079 --> 02:01:48.399 the best on November the fifth. 2143 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:50.680 Not a problem, my friend. 2144 02:01:50.720 --> 02:01:52.760 Thank you so much. All right, Stephen, thank you so much. 2145 02:01:52.840 --> 02:01:56.359 Certainly appreciate it. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty, 2146 02:01:56.359 --> 02:01:58.560 five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one 2147 02:01:58.560 --> 02:02:01.800 eight hundred eighty two three eighteen five pound, five point 2148 02:02:01.800 --> 02:02:04.520 fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for 2149 02:02:04.560 --> 02:02:08.600 Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the talk station Hey 2150 02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:14.439 You eight twenty four In the morning, Kevin Gordon in 2151 02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:17.279 for Brian Thomas fifty five KR or see the talk station. 2152 02:02:17.960 --> 02:02:21.680 I appreciate Stephen done. He's an attorney, a family law 2153 02:02:21.720 --> 02:02:25.479 attorney in northern Kentucky and also a state representative giving 2154 02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:28.399 us some clarity and some talking about this constitutional amendment. 2155 02:02:28.680 --> 02:02:30.359 You know, a lot of the stuff that is being 2156 02:02:30.439 --> 02:02:33.720 said about this is not You got to do your 2157 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.800 own homework. You've got to do a little bit of investigation. 2158 02:02:36.920 --> 02:02:39.560 You've got to look at some of the pros and 2159 02:02:39.640 --> 02:02:42.279 cons and make your own determination. I got to tell 2160 02:02:42.319 --> 02:02:45.960 you in the Gordon household, initially, when it comes to 2161 02:02:46.039 --> 02:02:49.359 school choice and what I see as far as the 2162 02:02:49.479 --> 02:02:53.600 education system, I'm all for school choice and letting parents 2163 02:02:53.640 --> 02:02:55.840 decide where they want to send their children, and I 2164 02:02:55.920 --> 02:02:59.760 believe that the money should follow the children. My wife, 2165 02:02:59.800 --> 02:03:02.239 on the other hand, said, well, I don't know about this. 2166 02:03:03.159 --> 02:03:05.399 I'm not sure that I like that because it's going 2167 02:03:05.439 --> 02:03:08.800 to be pulling money away from the public schools and 2168 02:03:08.920 --> 02:03:12.920 could create problems there. Well, you know, basically, if you 2169 02:03:12.960 --> 02:03:15.359 look at the public schools right now, for any parent 2170 02:03:15.399 --> 02:03:18.880 that is sending their kids to a private school, they 2171 02:03:18.920 --> 02:03:21.560 are basically I mean, let's face it, if you're paying 2172 02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:24.720 property taxes and you're not using the system, the system 2173 02:03:24.800 --> 02:03:27.680 is kind of freeloading off of you, and for you 2174 02:03:27.760 --> 02:03:30.319 to be able to take some of that money and 2175 02:03:30.840 --> 02:03:32.720 send your kids where you want to send them to 2176 02:03:32.760 --> 02:03:35.800 get the best possible education. I see this more as 2177 02:03:35.840 --> 02:03:38.640 a competition type of thing more than anything else. And 2178 02:03:39.319 --> 02:03:42.399 if the public schools are so great and so wonderful, 2179 02:03:42.520 --> 02:03:44.880 and again this is not a knock against the teachers, 2180 02:03:45.119 --> 02:03:47.359 I think the teachers are kind of up against it 2181 02:03:47.399 --> 02:03:50.399 in terms of the administrators and some of the curriculum 2182 02:03:50.640 --> 02:03:55.800 that these school boards allow. And so when you are 2183 02:03:56.359 --> 02:03:59.279 handcuffed that way, I'm not so sure that they have 2184 02:03:59.359 --> 02:04:02.359 as much flexibility and freedom, because you know, it's kind 2185 02:04:02.359 --> 02:04:04.079 of like one of those things where you talk about 2186 02:04:04.119 --> 02:04:07.319 your state representative. They say, well, why, you know, overall 2187 02:04:07.359 --> 02:04:10.159 Congress is hated and Congress isn't liked and all this 2188 02:04:10.199 --> 02:04:14.159 sort of stuff, But everybody seems to like their own congressman. 2189 02:04:14.560 --> 02:04:19.119 And so I think teachers overall get a bad rap. Now, 2190 02:04:19.159 --> 02:04:21.720 obviously there are good teachers, there are great teachers, and 2191 02:04:21.760 --> 02:04:25.239 then there are really bad teachers. But overall, teachers are 2192 02:04:25.239 --> 02:04:29.199 an important component of the education system. And I think 2193 02:04:29.439 --> 02:04:32.880 a healthy competition there. As far as the education and 2194 02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:36.680 what's available to the parents is great. Now in terms 2195 02:04:36.680 --> 02:04:40.399 of pulling money away from the public schools and stuff 2196 02:04:40.439 --> 02:04:42.520 like that, that is yet to be determined. They don't 2197 02:04:42.560 --> 02:04:45.520 know about this, And I think more than anything else, 2198 02:04:45.600 --> 02:04:47.119 the thing that I would hang my hat on and 2199 02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:49.960 the most is the fact that this allows a certain 2200 02:04:50.000 --> 02:04:55.319 amount of competition, and competition is always good. So anyway, 2201 02:04:55.640 --> 02:04:57.880 I've got to do your own homework on this and 2202 02:04:58.359 --> 02:05:02.359 kind of come up with your own decision. Coming up, Well, 2203 02:05:02.399 --> 02:05:04.319 we'll do some headlines to the bottom of the AAR. 2204 02:05:04.520 --> 02:05:07.279 I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs 2205 02:05:07.800 --> 02:05:08.600 the Talk station. 2206 02:05:08.880 --> 02:05:11.239 What if you could get the best healthcare without waiting 2207 02:05:11.239 --> 02:05:11.920 for an appointment? 2208 02:05:12.439 --> 02:05:14.600 Eight thirty one in the morning, Kevin Gordon in for 2209 02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:18.000 Brian Thomas, fifty five krs the Talk station. So local 2210 02:05:18.079 --> 02:05:23.640 headlines were covering for you this morning, said out of Carrollton, Kentucky, 2211 02:05:23.680 --> 02:05:26.680 a fourth victim was recovered from a house fire in Carrollton. 2212 02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:31.119 The police call a multiple fatality event. This was reported 2213 02:05:31.199 --> 02:05:35.359 yesterday and was just so sad. Detective Dave Roberts of 2214 02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:39.239 the Carrollton Police Department said Saturday afternoon that recovery efforts 2215 02:05:39.279 --> 02:05:41.520 had finished in the fourth and believed to be the 2216 02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:45.479 final victim, has been recovered from the residence remnants. Police 2217 02:05:45.479 --> 02:05:47.920 have not identified any of the four victims pulled out 2218 02:05:47.960 --> 02:05:52.000 of the home later identified to the Kentucky Medical Examiner's Office. 2219 02:05:52.159 --> 02:05:54.319 They did say that a three year old child standing 2220 02:05:54.359 --> 02:05:57.720 near the homes back door was rescued and was in 2221 02:05:57.800 --> 02:06:04.720 the hospital and recovering. Yeah two people are hospitalized after 2222 02:06:04.720 --> 02:06:08.600 an overnight bar shooting. Newport Police say that the shooting 2223 02:06:08.640 --> 02:06:11.920 took place at the bar Sunday morning. It happened approximately 2224 02:06:12.199 --> 02:06:15.720 one seven am in the area the West eighth Street 2225 02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:19.159 and Isabella Street. Police say to the group of individuals 2226 02:06:19.239 --> 02:06:21.840 leaving a bar near the intersection were involved in an 2227 02:06:21.880 --> 02:06:24.920 altercation which led to a suspect firing a gun and 2228 02:06:25.000 --> 02:06:28.560 hitting two people. The business that the incident is alleged 2229 02:06:28.600 --> 02:06:33.039 to have taken place at was not named by the police. However, 2230 02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:35.640 the only commercial business of any located in the immediate 2231 02:06:35.720 --> 02:06:40.319 vicinity is Sena's Cafe, which advertises itself as a bar 2232 02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:44.000 online and it's listing on Google Maps. Now, you know 2233 02:06:44.039 --> 02:06:46.840 this is interesting because a lot of times the liquor 2234 02:06:46.880 --> 02:06:52.279 license is determined by this, and sometimes when an altercation 2235 02:06:52.439 --> 02:06:56.039 or something happens near a bar or near a facility, 2236 02:06:56.439 --> 02:06:59.920 that is the location that is tagged with this. Whether 2237 02:07:00.119 --> 02:07:02.479 or not those patrons were or those people were at 2238 02:07:02.520 --> 02:07:06.359 the bar to begin with, it'll be interesting. But they 2239 02:07:06.359 --> 02:07:08.640 do say in here that people were leaving the bar, 2240 02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:13.960 so again you can imagine that probably alcohol was involved. 2241 02:07:14.239 --> 02:07:17.119 Injuries sustained by the two victims are reported, but again 2242 02:07:17.239 --> 02:07:20.720 this is not a reflection sometimes the bar itself. It's 2243 02:07:20.800 --> 02:07:24.199 just more of a reflection again the individual responsibility of 2244 02:07:24.239 --> 02:07:27.680 the people involved and that would actually get involved here. 2245 02:07:28.159 --> 02:07:30.560 The injury sustained by the two victims are reported by 2246 02:07:30.600 --> 02:07:33.800 police being non life threatening. Police said the suspect fled 2247 02:07:33.800 --> 02:07:37.079 the scene prior to officers arrival and remains at large. 2248 02:07:37.239 --> 02:07:39.760 Police department says the incident is believed to be an 2249 02:07:39.800 --> 02:07:42.640 isolated case and that further danger is not believed to 2250 02:07:42.680 --> 02:07:46.159 remain imminent to the community by the suspect. Those with 2251 02:07:46.279 --> 02:07:49.239 information about the shooting are encouraged to call Newport Police 2252 02:07:49.439 --> 02:07:51.800 at eight five nine two six ' one eight four 2253 02:07:51.960 --> 02:07:55.279 seven seven. Police department said that those seeking to remain 2254 02:07:55.319 --> 02:07:59.680 anonymous are permitted to do so, and that is certainly good. 2255 02:08:01.000 --> 02:08:05.159 And you know, when you and I can't emphasize enough 2256 02:08:05.560 --> 02:08:08.720 that when you have an incident at a particular location, 2257 02:08:08.880 --> 02:08:12.119 because there have been times when I know that in 2258 02:08:12.199 --> 02:08:16.880 Newport where a fight will start one place and then 2259 02:08:17.079 --> 02:08:19.560 the people are go down the road, down the street 2260 02:08:19.800 --> 02:08:22.479 about you know, maybe a block or so, and then 2261 02:08:22.600 --> 02:08:25.920 get into a bigger altercation in front of another business, 2262 02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:32.159 and then that business gets tagged with that incident happening 2263 02:08:32.199 --> 02:08:36.520 at their premises, whereas the incident actually happened up the 2264 02:08:36.560 --> 02:08:40.560 street at another location. And so to make sure or 2265 02:08:40.600 --> 02:08:43.720 to be fair to these bars and restaurants that they 2266 02:08:43.760 --> 02:08:47.239 don't get tagged with a bad reputation, they need to 2267 02:08:47.279 --> 02:08:50.359 make clarity as to what is involved in who these 2268 02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:53.800 people were, where they were patronizing, and whether or not 2269 02:08:54.159 --> 02:08:57.199 this occurred inside the building and just spilled out into 2270 02:08:57.239 --> 02:08:59.920 the street. So that's just my two cents worth of it. 2271 02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:03.560 Coming up, we're going to be talking to VA and 2272 02:09:03.600 --> 02:09:05.960 talking about some of the stuff that they've got going on. 2273 02:09:06.199 --> 02:09:08.800 I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian. My guess will be 2274 02:09:09.560 --> 02:09:13.479 Carrie Hagen from a Fisher House I'm Kevin Gordon in 2275 02:09:13.560 --> 02:09:17.600 for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs, the talk station, the 2276 02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:25.720 Socialists who want to move Height thirty nine in the morning. 2277 02:09:25.800 --> 02:09:28.600 Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs the 2278 02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:32.880 Talk Station. It's my pleasure to introduced since a VA 2279 02:09:32.960 --> 02:09:36.520 Fisher House manager Carrie Hagen. Welcome to the program. 2280 02:09:36.600 --> 02:09:39.640 Carrie, thank you so much, Good morning. 2281 02:09:39.560 --> 02:09:43.039 My pleasure. What is Fisher House? 2282 02:09:44.960 --> 02:09:48.600 The Fisher House program was established in nineteen ninety by 2283 02:09:48.720 --> 02:09:52.199 Zachary and Elizabeth Fisher in response to the recognized need 2284 02:09:52.279 --> 02:09:56.159 for housing from military families while the loved ones were hospitalized. 2285 02:09:57.079 --> 02:09:59.960 In nineteen ninety one, the first Fisher House what was 2286 02:10:00.039 --> 02:10:04.239 inaugurated at the National Naval Medical Center now Walter Reed 2287 02:10:04.560 --> 02:10:08.960 in Bethesda, Maryland, with the presence of President George Bush 2288 02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:13.159 Senior during a dedication ceremony. The Fishers entered into a 2289 02:10:13.159 --> 02:10:16.680 public private partnership with the government, allowing Fisher House to 2290 02:10:16.720 --> 02:10:21.439 construct these homes on government owned land. Subsequently, these homes 2291 02:10:21.439 --> 02:10:24.399 were gifted to the military or the VA to operate. 2292 02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:27.439 Their aim is to provide families with a home away 2293 02:10:27.439 --> 02:10:30.640 from home, enabling to be part of the healing process. 2294 02:10:30.760 --> 02:10:34.239 While their loved ones admitted. The Cincinnati Via Fisher House 2295 02:10:34.279 --> 02:10:37.239 opened up in two thousand and one and is located 2296 02:10:37.239 --> 02:10:40.920 on the VIA premises. The house is beautifully decorated. It 2297 02:10:40.960 --> 02:10:45.000 has sixteen private suites, completely a common kitchen, laundry facilities, 2298 02:10:45.319 --> 02:10:48.520 spacious dining room, and living room area for families to 2299 02:10:48.520 --> 02:10:52.119 gather and offer each other support and friendship while their 2300 02:10:52.119 --> 02:10:54.920 loved ones are receiving treatment at the Cincinnati BA Medical Center. 2301 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:56.000 It's a wonderful place. 2302 02:10:56.279 --> 02:11:00.439 Well, that sounds wonderful, a fantastic idea, of course, can't 2303 02:11:00.479 --> 02:11:03.279 do enough for our veterans and their families. So who 2304 02:11:03.359 --> 02:11:04.680 can stay at Fisher House? 2305 02:11:05.920 --> 02:11:06.119 Well? 2306 02:11:06.199 --> 02:11:09.439 The Cincinnati Via Fisher House welcomes guests to one have 2307 02:11:09.520 --> 02:11:12.119 a loved one receiving care at the Cincinnati VIA Medical 2308 02:11:12.159 --> 02:11:15.159 Center or receiving care at a local hospital that is 2309 02:11:15.239 --> 02:11:19.479 authorized by the v A Health Administration. They must live 2310 02:11:19.479 --> 02:11:21.600 at least forty to fifty miles or more away from 2311 02:11:21.640 --> 02:11:24.920 the medical center or the treating facilities that they're going to, 2312 02:11:26.199 --> 02:11:31.239 able to stay in a non medical, unsupervised setting, and 2313 02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:33.199 they have to follow all the rules of the house. 2314 02:11:33.399 --> 02:11:35.600 You know, in respect of our other fellow guests that 2315 02:11:35.680 --> 02:11:38.880 are in the house and the veterans may stay as 2316 02:11:38.880 --> 02:11:41.800 long as they have a caregiver that can accompany them 2317 02:11:42.319 --> 02:11:44.039 at all times. While at the Fisher House. 2318 02:11:45.319 --> 02:11:49.439 Now this, uh, now, when when I'm thinking house, I'm 2319 02:11:49.479 --> 02:11:53.159 thinking house. This is probably what is this? Is it 2320 02:11:53.479 --> 02:11:57.560 a house or is it a building that has different 2321 02:11:57.600 --> 02:12:00.399 suites like an a kind of like an apartment complex 2322 02:12:00.479 --> 02:12:01.600 type of thing, or. 2323 02:12:01.640 --> 02:12:05.000 Well, yeah, yeah, it's eleven thousand square foot facility that 2324 02:12:05.119 --> 02:12:07.800 actually looks like a house, and inside it has the 2325 02:12:07.880 --> 02:12:11.359 sixteen suites. There's a common living room, dining room, and 2326 02:12:11.399 --> 02:12:13.439 everything for people to join in, but they have their 2327 02:12:13.439 --> 02:12:17.399 little private area, their private room which has the bathroom, 2328 02:12:17.880 --> 02:12:21.039 and their bed facilities. Everything else is located on the 2329 02:12:21.079 --> 02:12:22.720 first floor as a common facility. 2330 02:12:23.119 --> 02:12:26.960 That is cool. That really sounds fantastic. Yeah. Is there 2331 02:12:27.000 --> 02:12:28.319 a cost to stay there? 2332 02:12:29.319 --> 02:12:32.439 No, absolutely not. There's no cost at all for any 2333 02:12:32.439 --> 02:12:34.560 of the family members to stay here while their loved 2334 02:12:34.600 --> 02:12:35.239 ones admitted. 2335 02:12:36.319 --> 02:12:40.640 Is there a time limit or anything along those lines. 2336 02:12:40.840 --> 02:12:43.800 We know, we don't have a time limit. There's no 2337 02:12:44.279 --> 02:12:46.560 minimum amount of stay. It could be one day or 2338 02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:48.920 it could be up to two weeks, and you know, 2339 02:12:49.000 --> 02:12:51.359 depending on the patient's care, what they're receiving at the 2340 02:12:51.439 --> 02:12:54.199 VA and what kind of how long term nurse day is. 2341 02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:55.920 That's what we go by as the manager. 2342 02:12:56.520 --> 02:13:00.760 Yeah, and as I said before, there's two. There is 2343 02:13:00.840 --> 02:13:03.479 nothing that we can't do more. I mean we can do. 2344 02:13:03.960 --> 02:13:08.159 We can't do enough for our veterans and veterans, and 2345 02:13:09.760 --> 02:13:13.720 this is one of those things that would is great, 2346 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:16.920 especially for the families. I do know that you know, 2347 02:13:17.479 --> 02:13:21.239 there are senior care facilities where somebody is in a 2348 02:13:22.119 --> 02:13:24.520 especially in your rural areas, where somebody is at a 2349 02:13:24.560 --> 02:13:27.119 particular hospital. And then of course, as you said, some 2350 02:13:27.159 --> 02:13:29.840 of these people live forty to fifty miles away and 2351 02:13:29.880 --> 02:13:32.359 it's very difficult for them to be there and to 2352 02:13:32.439 --> 02:13:36.000 be with their loved one who's in the medical facility. 2353 02:13:36.479 --> 02:13:40.199 And so an opportunity like this, especially with our veterans, 2354 02:13:40.399 --> 02:13:43.399 to be able to either have their family nearby, because 2355 02:13:43.560 --> 02:13:46.239 again I think one of the big points is is 2356 02:13:46.279 --> 02:13:49.079 that if you know your loved ones are there and 2357 02:13:49.119 --> 02:13:52.399 they are there as a support to you, that can't hurt. 2358 02:13:52.479 --> 02:13:55.640 I mean, that has to help tremendously the healing process. 2359 02:13:56.359 --> 02:14:00.880 Absolutely, You're absolutely correct. It does help the healing process. 2360 02:14:00.960 --> 02:14:03.880 And you know, and the families they take pictures of 2361 02:14:03.920 --> 02:14:05.920 the house to take them over to the loved one 2362 02:14:05.960 --> 02:14:08.520 to show them where they're staying at. So then they 2363 02:14:08.640 --> 02:14:13.000 admitted veteran feels more at ease, more comfortable with receiving 2364 02:14:13.000 --> 02:14:14.439 the care, and known their loved one is going to 2365 02:14:14.439 --> 02:14:17.039 be their next room during their entire time of their mission. 2366 02:14:17.359 --> 02:14:18.960 Now, I'm going to go out on a limb here, 2367 02:14:18.960 --> 02:14:21.359 and I'm going to assume that most of these people 2368 02:14:21.479 --> 02:14:25.119 that are veterans that they are probably a kind of 2369 02:14:25.199 --> 02:14:30.239 take charge person and a protector person. So as they're 2370 02:14:30.479 --> 02:14:34.359 in the hospital, as they're receiving care, part of their 2371 02:14:34.520 --> 02:14:37.880 concern is how's my family doing. Are they being taken 2372 02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:42.000 care of? Are they okay? Which should be probably the 2373 02:14:42.119 --> 02:14:45.000 last thing on their mind. But because of how they 2374 02:14:45.000 --> 02:14:47.640 are built, how they are constructed, and the type of 2375 02:14:47.680 --> 02:14:51.560 personality they have, they are concerned about their family members 2376 02:14:51.800 --> 02:14:54.760 and to be able to have this facility for their 2377 02:14:55.239 --> 02:14:58.760 families should be a big sign of comfort for them. 2378 02:14:59.600 --> 02:15:04.319 Oh yeah, I see it daily. Absolutely, you are correct. 2379 02:15:04.319 --> 02:15:07.079 With the veterans, they're very you know, in their ways 2380 02:15:07.159 --> 02:15:09.079 and want to make sure their loved one is taken 2381 02:15:09.119 --> 02:15:12.880 care of, even above their own needs. So when they 2382 02:15:12.920 --> 02:15:16.039 realize that you know, they're going to be staying their 2383 02:15:16.039 --> 02:15:18.000 family members is going to be staying at the Cincinnati 2384 02:15:18.159 --> 02:15:20.920 Via Fisher House, and they see the comforts and they 2385 02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:24.760 see everything. They you know, meet us as the staffing here. 2386 02:15:24.800 --> 02:15:27.000 They are very comfortable and that's when they can go 2387 02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:30.119 over and you know, enjoy take care of their healing 2388 02:15:30.239 --> 02:15:33.920 process to make them get better and well to go home. 2389 02:15:34.119 --> 02:15:35.359 Absolutely very good. 2390 02:15:35.960 --> 02:15:37.439 Can you hang with us through the break? We got 2391 02:15:37.439 --> 02:15:39.119 to take a quick break here and we'll come back 2392 02:15:39.159 --> 02:15:41.000 and pick this up because there's a lot more things 2393 02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:43.399 I want to find out about this for our listeners 2394 02:15:43.680 --> 02:15:46.760 and for the people certainly appreciate it. My guest is 2395 02:15:47.279 --> 02:15:51.640 since Ava Fisher House Manager Kerrie Hagen. I'm Kevin Gordon 2396 02:15:51.680 --> 02:15:54.920 in for Brian Thomas fifty five CARE see the talk station. 2397 02:15:55.479 --> 02:15:58.279 Cybersecurity Awareness a month they're still going straight. 2398 02:16:02.000 --> 02:16:04.439 Eight forty nine in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for 2399 02:16:04.520 --> 02:16:07.640 Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the talk station. Continue 2400 02:16:07.720 --> 02:16:11.760 our conversation with Cincinnati VA Fisher House Manager Kerrie Hagen. 2401 02:16:12.239 --> 02:16:15.000 And during the break, I pulled up this website and 2402 02:16:15.039 --> 02:16:19.760 that is one attractive house that is really attractive, a 2403 02:16:19.960 --> 02:16:25.600 nice layout and looks like a very comfortable facility. 2404 02:16:25.720 --> 02:16:29.520 Yes, it is. It's very beautiful, you know, and each 2405 02:16:29.600 --> 02:16:33.600 year we go through and update make sure it all 2406 02:16:33.639 --> 02:16:35.879 has all the comforts of home for the families that 2407 02:16:35.920 --> 02:16:36.920 are here in the veterans. 2408 02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:41.159 That is fantastic. Now, in terms of this, how do 2409 02:16:41.280 --> 02:16:43.719 veterans and how do they make arrangements for this or 2410 02:16:44.280 --> 02:16:45.760 are the what's the process there? 2411 02:16:46.920 --> 02:16:50.040 These are the families that they're needing Fisher House lodging. 2412 02:16:50.360 --> 02:16:54.639 They're usually referred vi a consult by a member of 2413 02:16:54.680 --> 02:16:59.879 their their husband, their sorry, their caregivers, healthcare team meaning physician, nurse, 2414 02:17:00.200 --> 02:17:04.159 social worker, and then it's kind of the results come 2415 02:17:04.200 --> 02:17:07.040 over to me, and it's kind of based on eligibility 2416 02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:10.879 and room availability. They're often assigned on you know, first 2417 02:17:10.879 --> 02:17:15.719 come first or basis, so that there's no there's no guarantee, 2418 02:17:16.079 --> 02:17:18.799 but we strive to accommodate all requests for lodging. We 2419 02:17:18.840 --> 02:17:22.399 have the sixteen room, so each family is allowed one 2420 02:17:22.440 --> 02:17:26.120 private guest suite to share with a maximum occupancy of 2421 02:17:26.159 --> 02:17:26.840 three people. 2422 02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:31.200 And again going back to the type of people that 2423 02:17:31.239 --> 02:17:35.520 are involved in the military, that their loved ones are 2424 02:17:35.559 --> 02:17:38.920 in the hospital and so on, I would say that 2425 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:44.920 these people are as a whole somewhat rugged individualists and 2426 02:17:45.559 --> 02:17:51.159 kind of would is there some people will think, oh gosh, 2427 02:17:51.239 --> 02:17:53.600 you know, we don't take charity and we're just you know, 2428 02:17:53.639 --> 02:17:57.159 we're not that way. This is something that you've earned. 2429 02:17:57.319 --> 02:18:00.479 This is something that your family member have earned by 2430 02:18:00.479 --> 02:18:03.399 putting their life on the line for this country, and 2431 02:18:03.440 --> 02:18:05.719 it's the least we can do and to provide this. 2432 02:18:06.000 --> 02:18:09.879 So don't feel as though that you're taking something that 2433 02:18:09.920 --> 02:18:14.600 would you know, push somebody else out. This is to 2434 02:18:14.719 --> 02:18:16.879 make sure that your loved one gets the best care 2435 02:18:17.040 --> 02:18:19.959 possible and that you can provide the support for them. 2436 02:18:20.239 --> 02:18:23.319 Is that a thing that has to be overcome or 2437 02:18:23.840 --> 02:18:24.879 do you see that at all? 2438 02:18:25.000 --> 02:18:29.280 Or I see that quite frequently here. There'll be a 2439 02:18:29.280 --> 02:18:32.159 lot of them that don't feel that they deserve, you know, 2440 02:18:32.360 --> 02:18:34.840 to even be lodging because it might be a simple 2441 02:18:34.879 --> 02:18:38.760 procedure or something. You know, maybe maybe someone else needs 2442 02:18:38.760 --> 02:18:42.719 it more than they do. That's not how we work here. 2443 02:18:43.239 --> 02:18:46.239 You know, if you if you are that one hundred 2444 02:18:46.239 --> 02:18:48.600 and fifty miles away and you need to be here 2445 02:18:48.760 --> 02:18:52.200 early at six am for a surgery, we're going to 2446 02:18:52.239 --> 02:18:54.520 help you. You know, We're going to get you in 2447 02:18:54.559 --> 02:18:57.959 this house. And you know, not only that because of donations, 2448 02:18:58.319 --> 02:19:00.959 I'm able to if I'm fool here, I'm able to 2449 02:19:01.040 --> 02:19:04.959 lodge at a local hotel. So we we've got them covered, 2450 02:19:05.479 --> 02:19:08.719 you know, as long as they meet the eligibility and 2451 02:19:08.799 --> 02:19:11.200 we take care of them completely so that they're here 2452 02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:12.879 one hundred percent for their loved ones. 2453 02:19:13.040 --> 02:19:15.840 Fantastic. Now, how much what kind of statistics do. 2454 02:19:15.799 --> 02:19:17.879 You have or well? 2455 02:19:17.920 --> 02:19:21.040 Currently, right now, there's ninety eight houses in operation in 2456 02:19:21.079 --> 02:19:26.680 the United States. Those are on vas and DODS military installation. 2457 02:19:27.600 --> 02:19:30.680 As of todate, there's over five hundred thousand families that 2458 02:19:30.680 --> 02:19:34.239 have been served, six hundred and ten millions in savings 2459 02:19:34.239 --> 02:19:37.520 for the families, and over twelve million days of lodging 2460 02:19:37.559 --> 02:19:40.360 provided to families. So those are amazing. 2461 02:19:40.440 --> 02:19:44.879 Those are astounding statistics. Yes, yes, oh my goodness. And 2462 02:19:45.079 --> 02:19:49.079 if because our listeners and because the American public are 2463 02:19:49.120 --> 02:19:53.559 so generous with their for people of groups that they support, 2464 02:19:53.760 --> 02:19:56.120 how can somebody help or work or how can they 2465 02:19:56.200 --> 02:19:57.600 help out or where can they donate? 2466 02:19:58.559 --> 02:20:01.360 Oh definitely the SINS and I've a medical center, Fisherhouse. 2467 02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:05.600 We operate on donated funds and rely on support from individuals. 2468 02:20:05.600 --> 02:20:08.600 And groups to provide the ongoing daily needs of the 2469 02:20:08.680 --> 02:20:11.520 Fisher House and also enhance the stay of the Fisher 2470 02:20:11.559 --> 02:20:14.639 House and expand our program and those things such as 2471 02:20:14.639 --> 02:20:19.799 fresh flowers, daily newspaper magazines, food in the house, things 2472 02:20:19.879 --> 02:20:22.840 like that. We have a wish list that we can provide. 2473 02:20:24.200 --> 02:20:26.280 Or to find out how you can support the military 2474 02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:28.760 and veterans families of the Cincinnai Fisherhouse, you can call 2475 02:20:28.840 --> 02:20:32.719 us at five one three four seven five six five 2476 02:20:32.840 --> 02:20:34.600 seven one and we'll be happy to help you. 2477 02:20:35.360 --> 02:20:39.079 Yeah, that's fantastic. Now, with the economy being as it is, 2478 02:20:39.239 --> 02:20:44.879 how is how are your donations doing? Is there a critic? Well, 2479 02:20:45.040 --> 02:20:48.120 I'm sure there's always the need, but in compared to 2480 02:20:48.200 --> 02:20:49.280 other years and. 2481 02:20:49.200 --> 02:20:54.239 So on, Uh, there's always a need, but it's surprisingly good. 2482 02:20:54.959 --> 02:20:58.559 There is still a lot of you know, outreach as 2483 02:20:58.600 --> 02:21:00.639 far as what is a Fisher House. There's quite a 2484 02:21:00.639 --> 02:21:02.600 few people that don't know what a Fisher House is 2485 02:21:02.600 --> 02:21:05.280 and theonomi I think it's a builder, but these. 2486 02:21:05.079 --> 02:21:06.920 Are exactly locally here. 2487 02:21:07.200 --> 02:21:10.639 Getting this out is wonderful, you know, to bring awareness 2488 02:21:10.680 --> 02:21:13.680 and even bring in more donations and more activity here 2489 02:21:13.719 --> 02:21:15.440 at the house for the families. 2490 02:21:15.559 --> 02:21:19.040 That's fantastic. I mean, it looks like an amazing facility 2491 02:21:19.159 --> 02:21:21.879 and I can just imagine the good that is done. 2492 02:21:22.440 --> 02:21:26.360 And as for the patient that's in the VA facility, 2493 02:21:26.680 --> 02:21:28.719 how much of a comfort that gives to them and 2494 02:21:28.760 --> 02:21:31.479 then of course to their families. So hats off to 2495 02:21:31.479 --> 02:21:35.079 here and all the best and appreciation coming on the program. 2496 02:21:35.280 --> 02:21:36.079 Certainly appreciate. 2497 02:21:36.159 --> 02:21:38.319 Thank you so much for having me on here to 2498 02:21:38.319 --> 02:21:40.920 discuss the house. That's when the families are served. 2499 02:21:41.200 --> 02:21:43.319 Thank you. We're there and we're here for you. If 2500 02:21:43.319 --> 02:21:44.760 you need something to make sure, you give us a 2501 02:21:44.760 --> 02:21:51.040 call and we'll get the word out. I think, thanks Carrie, 2502 02:21:51.040 --> 02:21:55.159 I certainly appreciate it. VA since a VA Fisher House 2503 02:21:55.399 --> 02:21:58.440 Manager Carrie Hagen, Well, folks, we're up against the clock here. 2504 02:21:58.479 --> 02:21:59.840 Time for me to get out of here has been 2505 02:21:59.879 --> 02:22:02.639 a I can't believe we've gone through four hours already, 2506 02:22:02.680 --> 02:22:07.040 but I could do another four if you want. Have 2507 02:22:07.120 --> 02:22:09.920 a great day. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas. Fifty 2508 02:22:09.959 --> 02:22:11.719 five KRC the Talk Station. 2509 02:22:12.399 --> 02:22:14.959 You are twenty twenty four election headquarters. 2510 02:22:15.079 --> 02:22:18.879 Every voter should be asking whether America can survive four 2511 02:22:18.920 --> 02:22:19.760 more years of. 2512 02:22:19.799 --> 02:22:22.319 Fifty five KRC the Talk Station. 2513 02:22:22.920 --> 02:22:24.639 This report is sponsored by Pere