Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: John. It is eight oh four here at Kentucky had
Speaker 2: his morning news with Nick Coffee on news radio eight
Speaker 2: forty wha s Scott Fitzgered alongside also John Alden and
Speaker 2: one of the stories you heard from John Shannon there
Speaker 2: is the the rise in scammers that are trying to
Speaker 2: let people know, hey, you didn't pay this traffic violation
Speaker 2: you owe for a toll that you you know you
Speaker 2: didn't pay for. And I talked about a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised still some that people fall for that, but
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't be so surprised. There are a lot
Speaker 2: of people out there, and all it takes is I mean,
Speaker 2: I would say the percentage of people who do fall
Speaker 2: for it, even if it's insanely low, that makes it
Speaker 2: worth it for the scammers because they're just sending out
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just mass texting probably you know, millions
Speaker 2: of people. And it reminded me of that, these scammers,
Speaker 2: because I felt bad after I said, who's still.
Speaker 1: Falling for that?
Speaker 2: Because sometimes you just have to no, no, no, I'll stop
Speaker 2: passing judgment because I nearly got got by a scammer
Speaker 2: and I the ultimate takeaway for me on this experience
Speaker 2: was how good they were at what they were doing
Speaker 2: to where you know, And I'm sure maybe some were thinking, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: they were good because they saw you as a sucker
Speaker 2: and you were the gullible idiot that they thought they
Speaker 2: were going to be able to take advantage of. But
Speaker 2: we were on vacation in Destin, Florida. This was probably
Speaker 2: about four or five years ago, and we got a
Speaker 2: phone I got a phone call on my cell phone
Speaker 2: and it was a local number, and it wasn't one
Speaker 2: that I had saved in my phone. And because we
Speaker 2: were in another state, I mean, I honestly I probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't have answered if I was home, But because I
Speaker 2: was away, I'm thinking, Okay, this is somebody.
Speaker 1: Maybe something happened at home. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I answered, and they said they were somebody from
Speaker 2: my bank. And I didn't really have any radar up
Speaker 2: as far as is this a scam?
Speaker 1: Is it legit?
Speaker 2: Because they just got right into it and asked me
Speaker 2: to verify something about me. But it wasn't where I
Speaker 2: really gave them any information they didn't already have. So
Speaker 2: it wasn't a question like, hey, can you give me
Speaker 2: your social Security number. It was something vague, and then
Speaker 2: they referenced something that I guess just made me feel
Speaker 2: like they were legit. And then they mentioned a place
Speaker 2: that we had shopped at in that area, a place
Speaker 2: that's what is it called. It's a grocery store chain
Speaker 2: that is in Florida, but is not in this area
Speaker 2: at least not that I'm aware of. Quinn Dixie Publics.
Speaker 2: It was Publics or I think there may be a
Speaker 2: Publix here now. But we went to a Publix and
Speaker 2: we ended up purchasing groceries for the week that we
Speaker 2: were going to be staying in Destined, and they said
Speaker 2: that there was a charge for this, and then there
Speaker 2: was a secondary charge where it looks like somebody got
Speaker 2: your information from that purchase and they ended up purchasing
Speaker 2: four hundred and something dollars worth of merchandise. There was
Speaker 2: a secondary purchase that is not yours. We flagged it
Speaker 2: for fraud. We want to get this, we want to
Speaker 2: get this straightened out. So I'm thinking, Okay, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you caught it. Oh my goodness, I
Speaker 1: owe you one.
Speaker 2: So they're they're asking me more information, and my wife
Speaker 2: she works in the financial industry, and she's hearing me
Speaker 2: answer questions and then she's looking at our account and
Speaker 2: she's thinking, the only charge that is there here. I
Speaker 2: am like, honey, you won't believe it. They've called, we're
Speaker 2: gonna they tried to scam us, but we're going to
Speaker 2: shut it down. And she's she's probably thinking, oh, you idiot,
Speaker 2: but she's looking at our bank account and sees that
Speaker 2: the only charge was the legit one. There's not one
Speaker 2: pending that they've stopped. And I said, well, that doesn't
Speaker 2: show that it was there, and they said, well, it's
Speaker 2: because we put a stop to it. And my wife,
Speaker 2: thinking you know, she tells me, well, if it was
Speaker 2: if it was flagged and only you know, I shouldn't
Speaker 2: say only she would know this, but she would know
Speaker 2: way more than I do, because she works in the
Speaker 2: financial industry, works for a credit union. So she she
Speaker 2: tells me, well, if they've stopped the charge that they
Speaker 2: have flagged as suspicious, it would still show as either
Speaker 2: a flag charge a pending charge. There's no indication on
Speaker 2: our bank account that any charge was pending other than
Speaker 2: the legit ones. So it's starting to smell funny. And
Speaker 2: then they started asking me if I could give them.
Speaker 2: This is where I knew there was a red flag.
Speaker 2: But I probably would have been an idiot and given
Speaker 2: them what they wanted had it not been for my
Speaker 2: wife being real the brains of the family. But they
Speaker 2: were wanting me to give them log in information to
Speaker 2: my online banking, which if they're who they are, they
Speaker 2: wouldn't need that. They have the ability to do anything
Speaker 2: they want. So once once I said that, once, I
Speaker 2: said you want my why would you need a log
Speaker 2: into my account? And she was like, this has got
Speaker 2: to be a scam. It's got to be a scam.
Speaker 2: So here I am my wife. My wife says this,
Speaker 2: this doesn't this I think I said something like my
Speaker 2: wife says, this smells funny.
Speaker 1: Why why why would you need this information?
Speaker 2: And that's when they hit me with, well, if you
Speaker 2: look at the back of your debit card, you'll see
Speaker 2: the phone number that we were calling from is the
Speaker 2: number that's on the back of your debit card. And
Speaker 2: at the time I didn't know what phone spoofing was.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe I should apologize because clearly they are
Speaker 2: calling from the bank. What in reality they use some
Speaker 2: kind of technology where they tricked your phone to thinking
Speaker 2: it was being called from a different number. So sure enough,
Speaker 2: while I'm you know, still thinking, man, is this real
Speaker 2: or not? Because I don't want somebody to take all
Speaker 2: my money. Also I don't want to, you know, give
Speaker 2: them the information to where they take my identity and
Speaker 2: you know, ruin my life. So as I'm i guess
Speaker 2: deciding what I'm going to do, my wife gets an
Speaker 2: email from our bank that says, be aware of this
Speaker 2: exact scam. Oh gave us the play by play of
Speaker 2: what they're going to do, and they follow it to
Speaker 2: a t and they're prepared for questions that you may have.
Speaker 2: They've got a response to it. So I remember, you know, thinking, wow,
Speaker 2: I was lucky that she was there to help, but
Speaker 2: also I almost got got And I think now you
Speaker 2: just know that there's so much of that going on,
Speaker 2: people trying to take advantage of those who will be
Speaker 2: naive enough. And I shouldn't even call it naive. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think most people if you get a phone call
Speaker 2: and it says on your phone that the number calling
Speaker 2: you is your bank or is somebody else you're gonna
Speaker 2: I mean, some people would question if you'd even have
Speaker 2: the ability to.
Speaker 1: Do that, the phone spoofing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, again, a lot of crooks, a lot of
Speaker 2: criminals out there, if they used their savviness for something productive,
Speaker 2: they'd be very successful and not you know, be in jail.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: But it's nice that folks like yourself are getting the
Speaker 4: word out and we keep going over these stories and
Speaker 4: going over and going over them because it registers. But
Speaker 4: every time you stop something here, somebody's gonna pop up over.
Speaker 1: Here, yep. And it's not going away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. There'll always be somebody trying to find
Speaker 2: a way to hustle you and scam you. And it's
Speaker 2: got to be prepared, gotta be careful, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: All Right, let's get another update of traffic in weather.
Speaker 2: We'll also revisit this piece of news in regards to
Speaker 2: Vince Marrow, the big Dog as they call them, leaving
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops's staff to come and join Jeff Brohm's staff. Also,
Speaker 2: we've got Rory O'Neil coming up here around eight thirty.
Speaker 2: Scott Fitzgerald will have sports right before that, So stick
Speaker 2: around right here on there's radio.
Speaker 1: Eight forty W.
Speaker 2: It's eight seventeen here Kentucky had his morning news with
Speaker 2: Nick Coffee on News Radio eight forty whas in about
Speaker 2: eight minutes we'll have another update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald. Also,
Speaker 2: we'll bring in Roory O'Neal of NBC News to join
Speaker 2: us at eight thirty to get the latest on the
Speaker 2: protests going on across the country, but mostly in California.
Speaker 2: The big story here when it comes to sports is
Speaker 2: something you don't often see, and that is a coach
Speaker 2: leaving a good position, seemingly at Kentucky to then take
Speaker 2: a somewhat similar position at the rival school, which is Louisville.
Speaker 2: So Vince Merrow, I mean he's the associate head coach
Speaker 2: for Mark Stoops. Maybe I should say was the associate
Speaker 2: head coach, also served as the recruiting coordinator tight ends coach,
Speaker 2: a guy that has been believed to be really, really
Speaker 2: impactful in the success that Mark Stoops has had at Kentucky.
Speaker 2: He's bailing on Stoops and just heading south to Louisville
Speaker 2: and will join Jeff Brahms staff as the GM. That,
Speaker 2: of course, does not bode well for Mark Stoops in
Speaker 2: a year where it seems as if momentum really really
Speaker 2: low schedule is always going to be really tough. They
Speaker 2: once again are going to have one of the toughest
Speaker 2: schedules in the country. And as far as this upcoming season,
Speaker 2: Marrow leaving right now, unless, of course, that leads to
Speaker 2: players who've already signed with Kentucky trying to get out
Speaker 2: of their letters of intent because of Marrow leaving, I mean,
Speaker 2: and that could happen, But overall, the scenario where Kentucky
Speaker 2: this upcoming season becomes a substantially worse football team because
Speaker 2: Marro's not there, I don't think. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the situation here. But the scenario where Stoops can dig
Speaker 2: out of this, meaning he can get back to being
Speaker 2: a respectable SEC program that is more competitive, that is
Speaker 2: consistently going to bowl games, I mean the bar. It's
Speaker 2: not as if he's got to take Kentucky to the
Speaker 2: playoff or compete at the top of the SEC. He
Speaker 2: just needs to get back to where he once was,
Speaker 2: where they were consistently winning enough games to become Bowl eligible.
Speaker 2: And that's a lot easier said than done. And right now,
Speaker 2: what's needed to make that happen just doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: be there. Marrow being a guy who brought in some
Speaker 2: of the best talent Stoops had at Kentucky. In fact,
Speaker 2: some of the best talent that ever chose to go
Speaker 2: to Kentucky and play that guy. Now leaving for your
Speaker 2: rival not exactly a great situation. And I think the
Speaker 2: reaction from Kentucky fans, most of them at least from
Speaker 2: what I've seen, has been, Yeah, this is just another
Speaker 2: disaster situation for Stoops and he probably won't be here
Speaker 2: that much longer, and maybe those folks will be right,
Speaker 2: But I think you're looking at roughly a thirty seven
Speaker 2: and a half million dollar price tag if you were
Speaker 2: to get rid of Mark Stoops by firing him, And
Speaker 2: that's a lot of money. And to be fair, how
Speaker 2: much goodwill has Mark Stoops actually built up? Let's be honest,
Speaker 2: as bad as it is now, and it doesn't look
Speaker 2: as if they've got a whole lot of optimism. He
Speaker 2: did give them a stretch where he was. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know Bear Bryant coach there long ago, but he's
Speaker 2: the most winning, best coach they've ever had, and he's
Speaker 2: given them, at least in my lifetime, the most sustained
Speaker 2: success they've ever had. Now again, you can't live on
Speaker 2: that forever.
Speaker 4: To say, could he keep winning in the new sixteen team?
Speaker 4: SEC thought he was before.
Speaker 2: Though I don't think so. Here's what really, here's what
Speaker 2: seems really obvious. When Texas A and M was interested
Speaker 2: in him so much so too, I guess kind of
Speaker 2: offer him the job right after he beat Louisville and
Speaker 2: Brohm two years ago. That would have been the perfect
Speaker 2: timing for both Stoops to realize he's maxed out what
Speaker 2: he can do there, go to a new job, a
Speaker 2: better job with better resources.
Speaker 1: A and M.
Speaker 2: And then Kentucky I think probably would have been fine
Speaker 2: with the split and realized, hey, probably good for us
Speaker 2: to go in a different direction.
Speaker 1: He's capped out. But it fell through.
Speaker 2: Last year they were really really bad and now it
Speaker 2: seems to have only gotten worse. So yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: a lot of momentum for the football program in Lexington.
Speaker 2: But look, they're gonna have twelve games this season to
Speaker 2: prove people wrong and we'll see what Mark Stoops can do.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we've got traffic and weather coming
Speaker 2: your way. Also another update on sports from Scot Fish
Speaker 2: gild right here on his radio eight forty Whas eight
Speaker 2: forty six Here Kentucky had his morning news with Nick
Speaker 2: Coffee on news Radio eight forty whs. We were about
Speaker 2: to hand it off to the fellas Tony and Dwight
Speaker 2: here shortly.
Speaker 1: But I mean, what do you.
Speaker 2: Think the Big Dog heading south on sixty four to
Speaker 2: Louisville to join Jeff BROHMS staff.
Speaker 3: I mean, when's the first Yachtzi tweet gonna come out?
Speaker 3: Because he was the Yatzi guy, right, he would get
Speaker 3: a recruit and then all the UK fans would post Yachtzi.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, the program branded it overall, but they
Speaker 2: were doing it because the Big Dog was getting the Yatzis.
Speaker 2: He was very good at the game of yacht see
Speaker 2: getting recruits that were a big deal to Kentucky at
Speaker 2: that time. But you bringing that up makes me wonder
Speaker 2: will he will he do the rivalry thing, because I
Speaker 2: don't think he will unless it's unless it's truly gotten
Speaker 2: contentious between him and Stoops to where he wants to.
Speaker 2: He wants to stick it to him. But then again,
Speaker 2: I mean, would you be coming to Louisville at this
Speaker 2: stage in your career given where Kentucky football is and
Speaker 2: needs you? I mean this guy to be a level
Speaker 2: of it being personal.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, here's what I see. He turned in Belichick.
Speaker 1: Here's yeah, here's what I see. I see. And I
Speaker 1: keep telling my UK buddies and they don't want to listen.
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, we didn't know Bobby Petrino had quit
Speaker 3: before that last year, but he essentially quit at the
Speaker 3: end of that season before Jurich had gone, and Bobby
Speaker 3: was there without Jurids, right, so he had essentially he
Speaker 3: wanted his fourteen million and he coached like it, like
Speaker 3: I want out. So they went two and ten And
Speaker 3: the most embarrassing Governor's Cup ever was that one at
Speaker 3: the end, coached by the because he had already been
Speaker 3: let go by the end I don't know two games left.
Speaker 1: Or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: We had a guy out there name Whammy. Uh do
Speaker 2: you remember coach Whammy Lorenzo something that had to fill
Speaker 2: in for Bobby, and I just remember we've got UK players.
Speaker 2: We got in the UKU L game there was a
Speaker 2: guy who tried to leave the leave the game.
Speaker 3: The tight end left the game and said blank blank
Speaker 3: you and they put him back in the game to
Speaker 3: talk to me about it.
Speaker 1: What is I said, this. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is most embarrassing. Dat Wavey's gonna have to get him
Speaker 1: under control. And I'm like, we got a coach named Whammy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So here's what I think is happening. I think Stoops knows. Look,
Speaker 3: and he and Big Dog knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They also now they're like, look, I'm all I'm getting
Speaker 3: off the Titanic because this year is going to be
Speaker 3: two and ten. So that that's where they're barreling towards.
Speaker 3: Because Stoops knows he wants his buyout and at the
Speaker 3: end of the year he'll do that, he'll be rich.
Speaker 3: He's still single, right, he's not married, I don't Stoops. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: he's divorced.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, he's single. So he's company got his thirty
Speaker 3: million dollars, what he has in the bank. I mean,
Speaker 3: what do you spend in Lexington. You can't spend all
Speaker 3: thirty million dollars in Lexicon. There was a time where
Speaker 3: they wouldn't take his money. I mean, now a little
Speaker 3: bit different.
Speaker 1: So he'll end up somewhere.
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody's going to hire him the second he's
Speaker 3: you know that he wants to work.
Speaker 2: The perfect scenario would have been A and M pulling
Speaker 2: the trigger and actually giving him the job. And then
Speaker 2: they did, and it played out to where we're here,
Speaker 2: to where it last year was at his it shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been nearly as bad as it actually was. And
Speaker 2: again I think people knew even before yesterday's news that that,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a staff that has been very,
Speaker 2: very loud even when there wasn't reason to be loud
Speaker 2: about off season chatter about I mean, they put about
Speaker 2: a twenty five percent exaggeration on their level of success
Speaker 2: every off season about they were coming for the East right,
Speaker 2: And it's because the staff, and to be honest, it worked.
Speaker 2: The fans got excited. They like that energy, especially coming
Speaker 2: from the big Dog. They've been silent, and it's not
Speaker 2: just because they're coming off of a bad season. I
Speaker 2: think it's because they they're probably pretty well aware that
Speaker 2: things aren't gonna be great this year. But him leaving
Speaker 2: has got to be the ultimate sign for Kentucky if
Speaker 2: they didn't already have the realization that this thing's run
Speaker 2: its course and it won't likely end well. But for
Speaker 2: those that just assume, well, they're gonna buy them out,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: The older. I get I'm fifty six years old, so
Speaker 1: I'm an old dude, right, so you can be quiet.
Speaker 3: Not that old fifty six. But what I've learned is
Speaker 3: life is about this simple thing. It's the six inches
Speaker 3: between your ears. Life is all about mental You pay
Speaker 3: Stoops nine million dollars a year, what motivation? Because we're
Speaker 3: all men here, this is a man thing. You pay
Speaker 3: a guy nine million dollars, Guys got to get up
Speaker 3: in the morning and feel like they got to fight
Speaker 3: for life. I mean, that's why most people's most successful
Speaker 3: years is when their kids are born and they start
Speaker 3: to grow because they have a responsibility and they're gonna
Speaker 3: make this happen for their kids, so they're motivated. It's
Speaker 3: all about the headspace. So when you pay him nine
Speaker 3: million dollars a year, no in no universe. Again, I
Speaker 3: don't want to say he's not worth it because of
Speaker 3: the sec money. But just because you have the money
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you need to pay him. If he wants
Speaker 3: to go away because you're paying him four and a
Speaker 3: half or five, then you need to go get a
Speaker 3: new coach, which you should have done. But nine million
Speaker 3: dollars a year, what motivation? Do you have to get
Speaker 3: up in the morning and get after it.
Speaker 2: But you're clearly gonna make them pay you every dime, right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that's like last year because he was seemingly
Speaker 2: checked out and it just went bad. I was I
Speaker 2: was amazed that some Kentucky fans were of the belief, well,
Speaker 2: you know, he's probably just gonna ride off and in
Speaker 2: the sun set, you know, he's he knows he's done all.
Speaker 3: You think he's gonna walk away from forty million dollars.
Speaker 3: Who would know he's getting paid out. Crackthorpe did that
Speaker 3: to Jurich after the Rutgers game. He met him in
Speaker 3: the in the down the ramp to the bus and said,
Speaker 3: here's here's what we want to pay you out, and
Speaker 3: this is it. This is your last game. And Crackthorpe
Speaker 3: was with his wife, wife was crying, and he handed
Speaker 3: that piece of paper back to Tom and said, you'll
Speaker 3: pay me every dollar.
Speaker 1: Here's the contract. That's right, Yeah, you'll pay me every dollar.
Speaker 1: We both signed this and yeah, and they should. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's going to be wild, though, and I want to
Speaker 2: talk about this a little bit more tomorrow, is that
Speaker 2: you're now going to see just how like the priorities
Speaker 2: are going to be exposed for schools as far as
Speaker 2: how much they value each program. And if you get
Speaker 2: rid of stoops at the time that you've just made
Speaker 2: it quite clear you're going to give football less resources
Speaker 2: than everybody else in the SEC. So your basketball can
Speaker 2: be top doll. That job is going to be attractive
Speaker 2: because it's the SEC. But you're basically telling coaches you're
Speaker 2: going to have a tough time winning.
Speaker 3: The football is king in basketball is secondary. And if
Speaker 3: you don't realize that your programs both of them.
Speaker 2: Why even have a program if you're not going to
Speaker 2: at least try to put resources there to be successful.
Speaker 2: All right, Tony and do I are up next. We're
Speaker 2: back at it tomorrow morning, bright and early right here
Speaker 2: on news radio eight forty whis