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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>John. It is eight oh four here at Kentucky had

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<v Speaker 2>his morning news with Nick Coffee on news radio eight

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<v Speaker 2>forty wha s Scott Fitzgered alongside also John Alden and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the stories you heard from John Shannon there

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<v Speaker 2>is the the rise in scammers that are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>let people know, hey, you didn't pay this traffic violation

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<v Speaker 2>you owe for a toll that you you know you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't pay for. And I talked about a little bit earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised still some that people fall for that, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I shouldn't be so surprised. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people out there, and all it takes is I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the percentage of people who do fall

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<v Speaker 2>for it, even if it's insanely low, that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>worth it for the scammers because they're just sending out

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're just mass texting probably you know, millions

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<v Speaker 2>of people. And it reminded me of that, these scammers,

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<v Speaker 2>because I felt bad after I said, who's still.

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<v Speaker 1>Falling for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because sometimes you just have to no, no, no, I'll stop

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<v Speaker 2>passing judgment because I nearly got got by a scammer

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<v Speaker 2>and I the ultimate takeaway for me on this experience

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<v Speaker 2>was how good they were at what they were doing

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<v Speaker 2>to where you know, And I'm sure maybe some were thinking, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were good because they saw you as a sucker

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<v Speaker 2>and you were the gullible idiot that they thought they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be able to take advantage of. But

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<v Speaker 2>we were on vacation in Destin, Florida. This was probably

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<v Speaker 2>about four or five years ago, and we got a

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<v Speaker 2>phone I got a phone call on my cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a local number, and it wasn't one

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<v Speaker 2>that I had saved in my phone. And because we

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<v Speaker 2>were in another state, I mean, I honestly I probably

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have answered if I was home, But because I

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<v Speaker 2>was away, I'm thinking, Okay, this is somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe something happened at home. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I answered, and they said they were somebody from

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<v Speaker 2>my bank. And I didn't really have any radar up

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<v Speaker 2>as far as is this a scam?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it legit?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they just got right into it and asked me

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<v Speaker 2>to verify something about me. But it wasn't where I

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<v Speaker 2>really gave them any information they didn't already have. So

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a question like, hey, can you give me

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<v Speaker 2>your social Security number. It was something vague, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they referenced something that I guess just made me feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they were legit. And then they mentioned a place

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<v Speaker 2>that we had shopped at in that area, a place

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<v Speaker 2>that's what is it called. It's a grocery store chain

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<v Speaker 2>that is in Florida, but is not in this area

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<v Speaker 2>at least not that I'm aware of. Quinn Dixie Publics.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Publics or I think there may be a

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<v Speaker 2>Publix here now. But we went to a Publix and

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up purchasing groceries for the week that we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be staying in Destined, and they said

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a charge for this, and then there

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<v Speaker 2>was a secondary charge where it looks like somebody got

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<v Speaker 2>your information from that purchase and they ended up purchasing

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred and something dollars worth of merchandise. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a secondary purchase that is not yours. We flagged it

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<v Speaker 2>for fraud. We want to get this, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>get this straightened out. So I'm thinking, Okay, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you caught it. Oh my goodness, I

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<v Speaker 1>owe you one.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're they're asking me more information, and my wife

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<v Speaker 2>she works in the financial industry, and she's hearing me

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<v Speaker 2>answer questions and then she's looking at our account and

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<v Speaker 2>she's thinking, the only charge that is there here. I

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<v Speaker 2>am like, honey, you won't believe it. They've called, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna they tried to scam us, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>shut it down. And she's she's probably thinking, oh, you idiot,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's looking at our bank account and sees that

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<v Speaker 2>the only charge was the legit one. There's not one

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<v Speaker 2>pending that they've stopped. And I said, well, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>show that it was there, and they said, well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>because we put a stop to it. And my wife,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking you know, she tells me, well, if it was

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<v Speaker 2>if it was flagged and only you know, I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say only she would know this, but she would know

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<v Speaker 2>way more than I do, because she works in the

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<v Speaker 2>financial industry, works for a credit union. So she she

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<v Speaker 2>tells me, well, if they've stopped the charge that they

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<v Speaker 2>have flagged as suspicious, it would still show as either

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<v Speaker 2>a flag charge a pending charge. There's no indication on

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<v Speaker 2>our bank account that any charge was pending other than

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<v Speaker 2>the legit ones. So it's starting to smell funny. And

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<v Speaker 2>then they started asking me if I could give them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where I knew there was a red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>But I probably would have been an idiot and given

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<v Speaker 2>them what they wanted had it not been for my

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<v Speaker 2>wife being real the brains of the family. But they

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<v Speaker 2>were wanting me to give them log in information to

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<v Speaker 2>my online banking, which if they're who they are, they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't need that. They have the ability to do anything

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<v Speaker 2>they want. So once once I said that, once, I

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<v Speaker 2>said you want my why would you need a log

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<v Speaker 2>into my account? And she was like, this has got

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<v Speaker 2>to be a scam. It's got to be a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>So here I am my wife. My wife says this,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't this I think I said something like my

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<v Speaker 2>wife says, this smells funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why why would you need this information?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when they hit me with, well, if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the back of your debit card, you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>the phone number that we were calling from is the

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<v Speaker 2>number that's on the back of your debit card. And

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<v Speaker 2>at the time I didn't know what phone spoofing was.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought maybe I should apologize because clearly they are

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<v Speaker 2>calling from the bank. What in reality they use some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of technology where they tricked your phone to thinking

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<v Speaker 2>it was being called from a different number. So sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>while I'm you know, still thinking, man, is this real

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<v Speaker 2>or not? Because I don't want somebody to take all

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<v Speaker 2>my money. Also I don't want to, you know, give

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<v Speaker 2>them the information to where they take my identity and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ruin my life. So as I'm i guess

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<v Speaker 2>deciding what I'm going to do, my wife gets an

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<v Speaker 2>email from our bank that says, be aware of this

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<v Speaker 2>exact scam. Oh gave us the play by play of

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<v Speaker 2>what they're going to do, and they follow it to

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<v Speaker 2>a t and they're prepared for questions that you may have.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a response to it. So I remember, you know, thinking, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I was lucky that she was there to help, but

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<v Speaker 2>also I almost got got And I think now you

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<v Speaker 2>just know that there's so much of that going on,

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<v Speaker 2>people trying to take advantage of those who will be

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<v Speaker 2>naive enough. And I shouldn't even call it naive. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people if you get a phone call

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<v Speaker 2>and it says on your phone that the number calling

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<v Speaker 2>you is your bank or is somebody else you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, some people would question if you'd even have

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that, the phone spoofing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, again, a lot of crooks, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>criminals out there, if they used their savviness for something productive,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be very successful and not you know, be in jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's nice that folks like yourself are getting the

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<v Speaker 4>word out and we keep going over these stories and

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<v Speaker 4>going over and going over them because it registers. But

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<v Speaker 4>every time you stop something here, somebody's gonna pop up over.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, yep. And it's not going away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right. There'll always be somebody trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>a way to hustle you and scam you. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be prepared, gotta be careful, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, let's get another update of traffic in weather.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll also revisit this piece of news in regards to

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<v Speaker 2>Vince Marrow, the big Dog as they call them, leaving

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Stoops's staff to come and join Jeff Brohm's staff. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got Rory O'Neil coming up here around eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Fitzgerald will have sports right before that, So stick

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<v Speaker 2>around right here on there's radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight forty W.

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<v Speaker 2>It's eight seventeen here Kentucky had his morning news with

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Coffee on News Radio eight forty whas in about

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<v Speaker 2>eight minutes we'll have another update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll bring in Roory O'Neal of NBC News to join

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<v Speaker 2>us at eight thirty to get the latest on the

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<v Speaker 2>protests going on across the country, but mostly in California.

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<v Speaker 2>The big story here when it comes to sports is

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<v Speaker 2>something you don't often see, and that is a coach

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<v Speaker 2>leaving a good position, seemingly at Kentucky to then take

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<v Speaker 2>a somewhat similar position at the rival school, which is Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>So Vince Merrow, I mean he's the associate head coach

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<v Speaker 2>for Mark Stoops. Maybe I should say was the associate

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, also served as the recruiting coordinator tight ends coach,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that has been believed to be really, really

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<v Speaker 2>impactful in the success that Mark Stoops has had at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>He's bailing on Stoops and just heading south to Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>and will join Jeff Brahms staff as the GM. That,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, does not bode well for Mark Stoops in

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<v Speaker 2>a year where it seems as if momentum really really

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<v Speaker 2>low schedule is always going to be really tough. They

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<v Speaker 2>once again are going to have one of the toughest

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<v Speaker 2>schedules in the country. And as far as this upcoming season,

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<v Speaker 2>Marrow leaving right now, unless, of course, that leads to

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<v Speaker 2>players who've already signed with Kentucky trying to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of their letters of intent because of Marrow leaving, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and that could happen, But overall, the scenario where Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>this upcoming season becomes a substantially worse football team because

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<v Speaker 2>Marro's not there, I don't think. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the situation here. But the scenario where Stoops can dig

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<v Speaker 2>out of this, meaning he can get back to being

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<v Speaker 2>a respectable SEC program that is more competitive, that is

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<v Speaker 2>consistently going to bowl games, I mean the bar. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not as if he's got to take Kentucky to the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff or compete at the top of the SEC. He

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<v Speaker 2>just needs to get back to where he once was,

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<v Speaker 2>where they were consistently winning enough games to become Bowl eligible.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a lot easier said than done. And right now,

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<v Speaker 2>what's needed to make that happen just doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be there. Marrow being a guy who brought in some

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<v Speaker 2>of the best talent Stoops had at Kentucky. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the best talent that ever chose to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky and play that guy. Now leaving for your

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<v Speaker 2>rival not exactly a great situation. And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>reaction from Kentucky fans, most of them at least from

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<v Speaker 2>what I've seen, has been, Yeah, this is just another

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<v Speaker 2>disaster situation for Stoops and he probably won't be here

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<v Speaker 2>that much longer, and maybe those folks will be right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you're looking at roughly a thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and a half million dollar price tag if you were

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of Mark Stoops by firing him, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of money. And to be fair, how

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<v Speaker 2>much goodwill has Mark Stoops actually built up? Let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>as bad as it is now, and it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 2>as if they've got a whole lot of optimism. He

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<v Speaker 2>did give them a stretch where he was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know Bear Bryant coach there long ago, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>the most winning, best coach they've ever had, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>given them, at least in my lifetime, the most sustained

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<v Speaker 2>success they've ever had. Now again, you can't live on

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<v Speaker 4>To say, could he keep winning in the new sixteen team?

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<v Speaker 2>Though I don't think so. Here's what really, here's what

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<v Speaker 2>offer him the job right after he beat Louisville and

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<v Speaker 2>Brohm two years ago. That would have been the perfect

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<v Speaker 2>timing for both Stoops to realize he's maxed out what

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<v Speaker 2>better job with better resources.

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<v Speaker 1>A and M.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Kentucky I think probably would have been fine

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<v Speaker 2>with the split and realized, hey, probably good for us

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<v Speaker 2>to go in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 1>He's capped out. But it fell through.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year they were really really bad and now it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to have only gotten worse. So yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of momentum for the football program in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, they're gonna have twelve games this season to

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<v Speaker 2>prove people wrong and we'll see what Mark Stoops can do.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, we've got traffic and weather coming

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<v Speaker 2>gild right here on his radio eight forty Whas eight

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<v Speaker 2>to hand it off to the fellas Tony and Dwight

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<v Speaker 2>here shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think the Big Dog heading south on sixty four to

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, when's the first Yachtzi tweet gonna come out?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he was the Yatzi guy, right, he would get

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<v Speaker 3>a recruit and then all the UK fans would post Yachtzi.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, the program branded it overall, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing it because the Big Dog was getting the Yatzis.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very good at the game of yacht see

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<v Speaker 2>getting recruits that were a big deal to Kentucky at

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<v Speaker 2>that time. But you bringing that up makes me wonder

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<v Speaker 2>will he will he do the rivalry thing, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he will unless it's unless it's truly gotten

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<v Speaker 2>contentious between him and Stoops to where he wants to.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to stick it to him. But then again,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, would you be coming to Louisville at this

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<v Speaker 2>stage in your career given where Kentucky football is and

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<v Speaker 2>needs you? I mean this guy to be a level

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<v Speaker 2>of it being personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, here's what I see. He turned in Belichick.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's yeah, here's what I see. I see. And I

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<v Speaker 1>keep telling my UK buddies and they don't want to listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, look, we didn't know Bobby Petrino had quit

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<v Speaker 3>before that last year, but he essentially quit at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of that season before Jurich had gone, and Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>was there without Jurids, right, so he had essentially he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted his fourteen million and he coached like it, like

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<v Speaker 3>I want out. So they went two and ten And

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<v Speaker 3>the most embarrassing Governor's Cup ever was that one at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, coached by the because he had already been

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<v Speaker 3>let go by the end I don't know two games left.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a guy out there name Whammy. Uh do

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<v Speaker 2>you remember coach Whammy Lorenzo something that had to fill

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<v Speaker 2>in for Bobby, and I just remember we've got UK players.

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<v Speaker 2>We got in the UKU L game there was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who tried to leave the leave the game.

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<v Speaker 3>The tight end left the game and said blank blank

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<v Speaker 3>you and they put him back in the game to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What is I said, this. I was like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is most embarrassing. Dat Wavey's gonna have to get him

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<v Speaker 1>under control. And I'm like, we got a coach named Whammy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's what I think is happening. I think Stoops knows. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>and he and Big Dog knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They also now they're like, look, I'm all I'm getting

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<v Speaker 3>off the Titanic because this year is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>two and ten. So that that's where they're barreling towards.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Stoops knows he wants his buyout and at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the year he'll do that, he'll be rich.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still single, right, he's not married, I don't Stoops. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 3>he's divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, he's single. So he's company got his thirty

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars, what he has in the bank. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you spend in Lexington. You can't spend all

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<v Speaker 3>thirty million dollars in Lexicon. There was a time where

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<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't take his money. I mean, now a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>So he'll end up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, somebody's going to hire him the second he's

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<v Speaker 3>you know that he wants to work.

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<v Speaker 2>The perfect scenario would have been A and M pulling

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<v Speaker 2>the trigger and actually giving him the job. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they did, and it played out to where we're here,

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<v Speaker 2>to where it last year was at his it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been nearly as bad as it actually was. And

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<v Speaker 2>again I think people knew even before yesterday's news that that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a staff that has been very,

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<v Speaker 2>very loud even when there wasn't reason to be loud

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<v Speaker 2>about off season chatter about I mean, they put about

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty five percent exaggeration on their level of success

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<v Speaker 2>every off season about they were coming for the East right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because the staff, and to be honest, it worked.

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<v Speaker 2>The fans got excited. They like that energy, especially coming

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<v Speaker 2>from the big Dog. They've been silent, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just because they're coming off of a bad season. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because they they're probably pretty well aware that

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<v Speaker 2>things aren't gonna be great this year. But him leaving

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<v Speaker 2>has got to be the ultimate sign for Kentucky if

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't already have the realization that this thing's run

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<v Speaker 2>its course and it won't likely end well. But for

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<v Speaker 2>those that just assume, well, they're gonna buy them out,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>The older. I get I'm fifty six years old, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an old dude, right, so you can be quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that old fifty six. But what I've learned is

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<v Speaker 3>life is about this simple thing. It's the six inches

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<v Speaker 3>between your ears. Life is all about mental You pay

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<v Speaker 3>Stoops nine million dollars a year, what motivation? Because we're

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<v Speaker 3>all men here, this is a man thing. You pay

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<v Speaker 3>a guy nine million dollars, Guys got to get up

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning and feel like they got to fight

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<v Speaker 3>for life. I mean, that's why most people's most successful

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<v Speaker 3>to grow because they have a responsibility and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make this happen for their kids, so they're motivated. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all about the headspace. So when you pay him nine

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars a year, no in no universe. Again, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to say he's not worth it because of

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<v Speaker 3>the sec money. But just because you have the money

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean you need to pay him. If he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to go away because you're paying him four and a

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<v Speaker 3>half or five, then you need to go get a

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<v Speaker 3>new coach, which you should have done. But nine million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a year, what motivation? Do you have to get

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<v Speaker 2>But you're clearly gonna make them pay you every dime, right, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's like last year because he was seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>checked out and it just went bad. I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was amazed that some Kentucky fans were of the belief, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's probably just gonna ride off and in

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<v Speaker 2>the sun set, you know, he's he knows he's done all.

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<v Speaker 3>You think he's gonna walk away from forty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would know he's getting paid out. Crackthorpe did that

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<v Speaker 3>to Jurich after the Rutgers game. He met him in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the down the ramp to the bus and said,

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<v Speaker 3>here's here's what we want to pay you out, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is it. This is your last game. And Crackthorpe

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<v Speaker 3>was with his wife, wife was crying, and he handed

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<v Speaker 3>that piece of paper back to Tom and said, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>pay me every dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the contract. That's right, Yeah, you'll pay me every dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>We both signed this and yeah, and they should. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going to be wild, though, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this a little bit more tomorrow, is that

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<v Speaker 2>you're now going to see just how like the priorities

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be exposed for schools as far as

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<v Speaker 2>how much they value each program. And if you get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of stoops at the time that you've just made

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<v Speaker 2>it quite clear you're going to give football less resources

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<v Speaker 2>than everybody else in the SEC. So your basketball can

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<v Speaker 2>be top doll. That job is going to be attractive

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the SEC. But you're basically telling coaches you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a tough time winning.

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<v Speaker 3>The football is king in basketball is secondary. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't realize that your programs both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Why even have a program if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>back at it tomorrow morning, bright and early right here

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<v Speaker 2>on news radio eight forty whis