WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.799 The boundlessh Authenticity Podcast. 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:08.160 Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Boundless 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:13.560 Authenticity Podcast. My guest today is Chris Latterer, who was 4 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:16.679 born in Canada in nineteen seventy five and from a 5 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:20.839 young age was subjected to a covert government program involving 6 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:26.800 psychological experimentation, trauma based mind control, and black ops military training, 7 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.359 which was known as MK all Trip and it was 8 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:33.280 run by agencies like the CIA, Canadian Intelligence and other 9 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:38.119 military contractors. At age six, Chris was recruited into Project Monarch, 10 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:43.159 which used children for dissociative identity programming, psychic testing and 11 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:47.240 super soldier training. Chris encountered figures such as Doctor Green 12 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:52.719 of Operation paper Clip, Doctor John Gittinger, and General Michael Aquino, 13 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.119 with programming carried out at the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal. 14 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:01.920 Chris was assigned to Alias Duncan Cameron for Black Site missions, 15 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:05.000 including those at Camp Hero in Montauk, New York, and 16 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:09.000 his training involved extreme trauma, ritual abuse, and experiments with 17 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:12.959 Ashville projection and the mon Talk Chair. Particularly during the 18 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:17.319 August twelfth, nineteen eighty three temporal experiment. Chris has witnessed 19 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:21.920 horrific events involving other children, and endured lasting effects including 20 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:28.480 memory fragmentation, harassment, incarceration, and attempts on his life. This story, 21 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.879 Chris believes, has been hijacked by television writers and rebranded 22 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:34.159 is what we now know to be the popular Netflix 23 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.159 series Stranger Things. Chris has written a book about it, 24 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.519 and this is what we are discussing today. So, Chris, 25 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.239 how's it going going good? 26 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:49.359 Thanks for yeah, thanks, that's describing well like you did 27 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.040 a good job there. Thanks. Yeah. 28 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.640 Well, this is the first time that anyone has ever 29 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.719 submitted a book to me for the podcast, and I 30 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:02.239 have actually read the entire thing. It's hard not to 31 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:05.120 read it. So it's called The mon Talk Boys, Terror 32 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.080 at Montalk, the Last Moments of Camp hero MK, Ultra 33 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:14.360 Wellness Experiment. Don't the true story behind Stranger Things? And 34 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:18.360 you have it in here that it's the legal testimony, 35 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:21.080 an official scorn statement by you. 36 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.199 And let's see what else you have here. 37 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.639 It's a bunch of different stuff, like you're really, I mean, 38 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.280 from the very beginning, you just pack it full of information. 39 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:36.240 It's hard not to look at it and be like, 40 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:38.080 what the hell you know? 41 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:44.000 Yeah, it's all factual information. Like it's all information you 42 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.680 can rely on, Like yeah, yeah, everything that's in the book, 43 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:54.080 like I'm ready anytime to be interrogated under a polygraph desk, 44 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.520 like this is really like. 45 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.919 Yeah, yeah, I really took my time to read it 46 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:05.960 and try to validate what was going on, because when 47 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.560 you're dealing with MK ultra and someone that says that 48 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:10.919 they've been a victim of mind control and stuff like that, 49 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.280 I mean professionally I do that, So I have my 50 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:19.960 feelers on where I'm looking for authenticity anywhere that I 51 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.560 can to validate that this person is saying the truth, 52 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.439 because there are so many people that have just been 53 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.479 abused that then go on to make this stuff up. 54 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:32.000 I found. 55 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:39.039 So reading the book, I realized that not only do 56 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.879 you have a section that pretty much would educate anyone 57 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:46.520 that doesn't know what MK ultra is all about and 58 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.080 mind control and all the different facets of it, it 59 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.840 educates you in such a detailed way that it's like, Okay, 60 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.120 you can understand that, and then you can get into 61 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:59.000 the body of it and you can be like, oh wow, 62 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.759 so everything that I've ever heard that is like every 63 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.479 conspiracy theorist wet dream is actually true, you know. 64 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:10.759 Yeah pretty much, Like yeah, like it's all based on 65 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:17.079 something like my story is like the Bays have so 66 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:22.600 many like tales and legends that were inspired by it, 67 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:26.439 you know, like and like modified and all. And I'm 68 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:28.800 you know, like as people think it's a sci fi 69 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:33.279 and it's not like you know, it's me, it's my friends, 70 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:37.519 Like I lost some friends in this, Like this is 71 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.000 the crude reality of the project. Like you know, like 72 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.079 no bullshit. I'm there to cut the bullshit because you know, 73 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.959 like it's kind of an insult for me too, because 74 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:55.360 like you see like stranger things, like you know, it's 75 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.720 all sweet, but like it was not like that's based 76 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.720 on my on my torture. They're like you know, like 77 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:07.000 the extreme of a torture that created this. So like 78 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:12.600 uh yeah, like I'm here to expose the truth and 79 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:17.199 like you know, like educate people, like that's the goal, 80 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:21.040 and like wake up people because like I give so 81 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.639 many details and in the book that people will like 82 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.720 because a lot of it's not just me, it's thousands 83 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:33.360 of people that went to those programs, so like and 84 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.439 a lot of people are like doubt that they went 85 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:41.279 through it. So by reading the book, like they always 86 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.000 use the same pattern, like because they have a winning formula, 87 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:49.199 so it's always the same pattern, Like are close. So 88 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.079 somebody that reads the book and like oh yeah that 89 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:57.040 that that that because like I really give details of 90 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:03.319 like how they recruit, how they the train, like you know, 91 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:09.199 like ow they were proceeding. Like so yeah, people can 92 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:14.360 like see if they went through it or not. Like 93 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:16.600 like it because it's going to trigger memories for sure, 94 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:18.519 like to somebody that went to it. 95 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:20.959 Yeah, I mean it's true. 96 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:26.160 And I think that one of the facts about MK 97 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:31.480 Alter that is commonly overlooked is due to the reality 98 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:36.480 that conspiracy theorists do sensationalize a lot of it, and 99 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:40.639 in sensationalizing it, it takes away from the severity of 100 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:44.480 it and from the reality that this stuff is actually 101 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.759 happening to people still to this day, and there are 102 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.439 a lot of people out there, whether they are sleepers 103 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.399 or they suspect that something has been done to them, 104 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.879 but their memory has been wiped. And I mean, I 105 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.600 even I think I may have told the story on 106 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.560 this show before I even met. A girl from Florida. 107 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:09.759 She was born in Georgia. She was subjected to some 108 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.040 kind of ritual abuse. I know she told me she 109 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.360 was raped and things like that, but she was eventually 110 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:21.839 so traumatized and so broken that she basically ended up 111 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:28.639 with a somewhat irreversible form of dissociated identity disorder. And 112 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.000 her parents didn't understand her. But her parents, her father 113 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.319 was the one who sold her into the ritual abuse 114 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.920 in the first place, and it seemed like whenever he 115 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:42.360 was around, he would have certain keywords and commands that 116 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.279 would trigger her, that would cause her to slip into 117 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:50.199 this personality. And the only way that she could communicate 118 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:55.240 what was going on was through drawings. And she's actually 119 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:59.240 the very first person that described me that having being 120 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.279 subjected to this and having like alters and stuff is 121 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:06.399 like the part of you that's actually you, the true personality, 122 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:09.720 is inside of a big mansion somewhere at the back, 123 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.399 chained to the wall, and you're screaming to get out, 124 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:17.199 and there's nothing that anybody can do to help you, 125 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:23.879 because even you don't know how to get into that 126 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:27.480 self identity anymore. You're only aware that it exists what 127 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.240 used to be the shell of yourself. It's your therey, 128 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.600 you know. So I think there's a lot of people 129 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:36.200 that are walking around like that, if they hear this, 130 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:40.080 it might wake them up, It might cause them to 131 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:44.559 come forward. I mean you have in your acknowledgments you 132 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:52.360 have another MK Ultra survivor and and I'm just briefly 133 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.200 scrolling through, Yeah, and then. 134 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:03.720 The survivor of the Item memorial too, but the earlier experiments, 135 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:07.320 like that's how we met, like through the action class 136 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.559 because like I have a file there, but it's not 137 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:15.960 in the same years as the as a doctor you 138 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:21.519 and Cameron, so like it's another like like what, I 139 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:25.480 got to talk more with the lawyer about this if 140 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:30.000 they're gonna like add those years or like maybe starting 141 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.960 out their action because there's so many kids that went there, 142 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:40.559 like even later. So yeah, like like the Action Class 143 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:44.840 at the moment is just like the opening kind of 144 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:46.879 thing like the other ones. 145 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:51.120 So yeah, yeah, And so one of the things that 146 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.240 stood out to me immediately, I mean, you're bailing on 147 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:58.320 page fourteen of two hundred and sixty pages in the acknowledgements, 148 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:05.559 you reference Atlanta Freeland, who helped you and and to 149 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.159 figure this thing out, And so that stands out already 150 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.480 where these stories are concerned, because there's a lot of 151 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.159 people who they will tell you all this stuff that 152 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.720 sounds great, it sounds realistic, but then they can't ever 153 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:24.200 say that they've been to anyone to get any assistance 154 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.399 to bring forth these memories, so that kills the credibility. 155 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:32.559 But you've done everything that you can to really lend 156 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:34.480 to your credibility, So you've had a lot of people 157 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:38.399 that have helped you. I laughed because this lady saw 158 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:41.559 ge galactech. She probably will hear this and laugh. She 159 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:43.639 followed me on YouTube, and I was like, oh, okay, 160 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:47.120 but that was before I even got the book from 161 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:48.759 you or anything, So I don't know what else of 162 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:51.120 mine she saw that she liked. 163 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:57.279 But yeah, yeah, she's super cool. Like she's like she's 164 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.639 a loting to like a podcast, like she does a 165 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.919 lot of it, like a Pirate radio there, like with 166 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:07.919 Jeffrey Ryder and all. So uh, and like she helps 167 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.960 me with the book, like for the finishing of the 168 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:14.120 book and for the website, like she's an amazing friend. 169 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:18.559 Like yeah, yeah, Misha Johnson's a great lady too. 170 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:23.399 Yes, that's like she changed my life actually, because like 171 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:26.279 I was having those slash back that many people have, 172 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.320 like you know, memories that aren't fitting and you think, 173 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:33.000 like you know, like it's just a dream or like 174 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:38.360 you know, but like at some point those slashbacks were 175 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:47.159 like really not fitting with the the the frame thought 176 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:50.840 they implanted in me when they raised my memory, because 177 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:55.120 like they raised my memory with a machine. Like I'll 178 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.200 explain the machine first, because like people are curious about this, 179 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.000 Like it's a machine that they put on the desk 180 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.320 you're sitting and like you put your face in it. 181 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.559 There's like a pad on the for your forehead and 182 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.840 on the chin and like yeah, there's two sticks that 183 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:17.080 comes on your temples there and they have like graystick 184 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:20.000 with a ball at the end and like on that 185 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.320 machine at a base there's a wheel and this is 186 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.919 giving you shock on the temples. It just cooks your brain. 187 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:33.960 Like and that's a memory that came back through the regression. 188 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:36.919 That knows because I was having those flashbacks and like 189 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:40.080 you know, it was getting overwhelming in my life, like 190 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.600 to a point like it's so vivid, so like so 191 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:46.960 I had to check into it because I thought I 192 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:53.159 was going crazy, Like so did the regression that knows 193 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:58.080 what Michae Johnston, she unlocked my memory because like they 194 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:02.720 blocked my memory. They you know, like the they put 195 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:08.120 like block hypnotic blockage and hypnotics suggestions and all like reflexed. 196 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.440 You feel tired when you look into like n k 197 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:17.320 Ultru like you know, like protection for them, just so 198 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:26.159 you don't dig into it. So yeah, like she unlike 199 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.960 those memory is that that sort of brought back that 200 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:35.200 memory of the the machine like that they use at 201 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.240 the hospital to do this and uh for the to 202 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.480 erase the memory. And in my case, uh, like one 203 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.440 of the handlers and the doctor said like a stop 204 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:51.600 because like you uh, because you won't remember how to 205 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:56.960 breed because like it's so strong, like you get like vegetable. 206 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.639 Like if you stay on that machine like too long 207 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.600 and like you won't remember how to breathe and you'll die, 208 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:09.120 you know, like because it's real fucking you up. So yeah, 209 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:16.200 like uh, once they did this, after they put this 210 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:19.679 frame of thought that I had the nicest childhood. I 211 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:24.639 went twice to Disney and that I couldn't remember anything 212 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:29.799 that was important, but they didn't specify, Uh was it 213 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.080 for like CIA stuff or was it for like my 214 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:41.679 life or so from that point, like I had these shoes, 215 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:45.120 I was forgetting everything that was important. I couldn't like 216 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:49.720 like till I get that nose done. So I think 217 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:51.600 that a lot of the people that are fucked up 218 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:56.159 by mcareultural are probably by the probably fucked up by 219 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:02.200 stupid people not competent to do like it not take 220 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.759 like programmation and like botch their jobs, and like people 221 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:09.639 are sucked up after like you know, and like a 222 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.879 lot of people can be helped like if they if 223 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.200 they dig into their like and go to the base 224 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.600 of their problem. But yeah, in my case, that changed 225 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:26.200 my life. Life quality has changed sence because like me, 226 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.639 my life was going good up till twenty ten when 227 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:39.039 I started remembering stuff and I asked my mom questions 228 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:40.840 about one of the tests I was done at the 229 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:45.320 Adam Memorial Hospital in Montreal, a test that I had 230 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.200 a bunch of needles on my head and like my 231 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.320 eyes were kept open and like they were putting drops 232 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:55.840 in my eyes and like that fucking thing was so painful. 233 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.519 That was like, so I asked my mom, like what 234 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:05.320 was that test, you know about the But my mom like, uh, 235 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:14.360 not to be bad or whatever she's programmed to to, like, 236 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.399 uh tell my handler if like I ask questions or 237 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:21.279 I talk about stuff or you know, like you know 238 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:23.799 or I wake up. Like that was like a life 239 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:28.720 contract kind of thing. So she told my handler like 240 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:34.080 most of so like from there, like you know, I 241 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:40.159 had like a jeep shop like uh at three point 242 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:43.639 five million and then toy, I just opened the first franchise. 243 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.240 I had six opening that year. I just bought like 244 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:50.440 a square kilometer then with a big building to supply 245 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:54.679 all my franchise and all. I had that mega plan 246 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.960 like you know, like and uh yeah, like the business 247 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:04.240 was going, had five thousand customer. I was providing parts 248 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:09.240 for jeep first scrapyard for dealers for like everybody was 249 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:12.880 passing through me for Jeep parts so worldwide, like I 250 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:20.480 was selling worldwide. And they started like making me trouble 251 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:25.000 and setting me up, bringing some brand new Jeeps cut 252 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:29.799 in pieces like on the yard like overnight and stuff 253 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:35.160 like that just to make trouble and attacking me from everywhere. 254 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:42.119 And yeah, like they set me up. They sent some 255 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.920 people to steal from me fifty thousand bucks of tools. 256 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:50.119 I went and like I found out who it was. 257 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.720 I went to like beat one up, and you got 258 00:17:54.839 --> 00:18:01.799 like retarded because of that, like permanently, a permanent lesion. 259 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:06.240 And also I was a charged with attempted murder and 260 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:12.119 like home invasion because I kicked the door in uh yeah, 261 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.559 a bunch of stuff. And plus like the day when 262 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:19.279 they arrested me, I just had like firearms giving to 263 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:25.400 me modified firearms like so like I was arrested with 264 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:32.400 modified firearms too, and so yeah, and they were trying 265 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:35.759 to set me up for good to go in jail. 266 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.599 My body is two got set up. Like everybody that 267 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:45.599 was like uh in the program, like my my kind 268 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.000 of crew there like got set up. We all got 269 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:52.920 like arrested the same period of time and all that 270 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.119 because I was starting to wake up and ask questions 271 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:04.039 so like because like I was a grand finalist of 272 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:07.160 the Monarch project in our area, like all the schools 273 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:10.400 involving this and all, and probably due to like what 274 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:16.759 happened to man talk. So yeah, like if I was 275 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.839 if I went through all this and I was like 276 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.400 starting to remember, it was just a matter of time 277 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.680 for them to like they lack somewhere. So yeah, they 278 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.119 didn't take any chance. And like they tried to take 279 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.559 us off, like they tried to kill me. They tried 280 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:36.960 to kill another of my buddy, like we survive, but like, yeah, 281 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:41.319 I got reanimated. The nurse got killed a few weeks 282 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:43.839 after the nurse that saved me, Like you know, like 283 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:49.319 my story is pretty hardcore, like so yeah, that's the 284 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:52.440 technique they used to dispose of people and all. And 285 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:54.680 like as soon as they take one of us out 286 00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:00.160 or like one of us dies, they raise everything. It's 287 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.440 like we never existed. You look, you tried to face it, 288 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:09.079 try to like social networks or anything like in the 289 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:14.720 bad news or in archives, like everything vanishes like we 290 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:16.799 never existed, like where ghosts. 291 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.519 So yeah, yeah, so it seems like your parents were 292 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.200 in on it in your story. You make it seem 293 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:28.480 like your father didn't really know what was going on 294 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:32.160 until a certain point and then what do they do? 295 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:32.920 They stared in. 296 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.039 Well, no, like my dad when my mom signed me 297 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:40.000 in because like they were recruiting in the job fair, 298 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.680 like I got recruited like with a bunch of my friends. 299 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.839 Like in the job fair, people were talking about like 300 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:49.680 their their work. They had tables with stuff about their 301 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:54.079 their their trades and and the last boot was cops military. 302 00:20:54.279 --> 00:21:00.519 They were like recruitment papers, drug samples like uns and 303 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:05.400 like they were like a bunch of papers and like checklists, 304 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:08.720 and they offered us to participate in the secret project, 305 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:13.000 so and like what kind of field would interest us, 306 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:16.319 and so like we filled up those checklists, you know, 307 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.079 and they gave us papers to give to our parents. 308 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:23.200 In my case, my dad was working at James Bay 309 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:26.480 for a few months at a time coming back. So 310 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.960 my mom got back home, I gave her those papers 311 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:33.680 and she was working with those cops actually in the 312 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:36.200 same office. And also like she knew them and like 313 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:42.880 there were nice, nice people like stuck with so uh 314 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.680 she yeah, like she signed me up in it, and 315 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.680 like we had from there an appointment with the military 316 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:55.559 read the CIA, John getting girl from the like the 317 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:03.039 the chief recruiter of the CIA. So yeah, cops and 318 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:06.519 like people from the school and all, and like they 319 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:11.240 were just selling the project. My mom. Everybody was around 320 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:13.279 her and talking to her at the same time, and 321 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.319 like he's going to be a genius and blah blah 322 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:17.440 blah and blah blah blah, and like it's gonna be 323 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:21.960 done through light traumas you won't remember nothing because don't 324 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.079 your nose ears the good cash and like you'll have 325 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:30.559 like yeah, like support all your life from like the 326 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.039 elites and blah blah blah, you know, like putting this 327 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:40.039 all nice, you know, so uh that I like they 328 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:42.880 would synchronize my brain, that I would use my brain 329 00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:45.920 like one hundred percent of my brain compared to like 330 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:49.839 people that are normal people are not using fifty percent 331 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:53.440 of their brain, so like this would be done to 332 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:59.079 like traumas and so yeah, like it was just nice, 333 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:02.839 and the cash was good and I had like insurance 334 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:10.759 like a pension for later like you know, like cash, 335 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.680 Like my mom was touching cash, so she sent me 336 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:21.000 in not knowing really what's like because they were watering 337 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:29.799 everything down. And from there, like my first appointment, I 338 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:34.319 went to school by myself for the first time walking. Yeah, 339 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.519 like I was six years old, and that's where I 340 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.279 met my buddy Eric for the first time. We had 341 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.759 the same appointment with two different handler cup handlers, and 342 00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:47.960 we are arrved at the same time. They gave us 343 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:53.000 like a checklist again like on cartoons. We love like 344 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:57.359 Star Wars personnel, we love you know, all about our 345 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:00.279 taste and like it just to size us and learn 346 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:07.559 about us, like to study us. So super he rose 347 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.519 blah blah blah, you know, kill stuff. So from there 348 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:14.119 they gave us something and they sent us to play 349 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:16.079 in the yard for probably like half an hour. For 350 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.759 the five minutes it was a kind of drug. I 351 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:26.119 don't know like what it was. Anyway, when like Eric 352 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.000 had a tennis ball there, this came back with the 353 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:33.039 nose and alls. Like because we know each other from 354 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.640 all our lives, we didn't know where we met, so 355 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.039 like you know, so that came back with the deep nose. 356 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:47.440 So yeah, like after that playtime outside, like they came 357 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:51.000 to get us, we went back inside. We went each 358 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:54.599 in our little office with our handler. There were a 359 00:24:54.680 --> 00:25:00.480 machine that were like different like lenses of a and 360 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.400 we're looking at it and like it started with like 361 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.000 a Damien flag that was turning, and after it was 362 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:12.319 like a series of image of like like war image 363 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:23.960 from like old Germany. Uh, like murder scenes like adult scenes, 364 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:27.839 a lot of like orgs and stuff like that, and 365 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:33.680 like suic side scenes like family cut in pieces like 366 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:38.359 you know, like but like all repetition and like with 367 00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.599 those different lands in front. It's so like wor seing 368 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.039 this in different colors all the time, and like for 369 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.720 I don't know, how long it lasted. But that was 370 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:50.799 the type of image that like you know, like a 371 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.920 nuclear war, like you know, the blasts and stuff like 372 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:01.640 that that were passing in those machine. And uh, after this, 373 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.400 like we finished, me and my buddy Eric finished at 374 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.839 the same time, and we got out of our little 375 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:13.279 and like they before we we could leave, we had 376 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.519 to sleep at this an hour. So like they installed 377 00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:20.480 us in the like the nurse office, like there were 378 00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.880 two little bears that we were sleeping there for an hour. 379 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.480 And after like we left, we weren't supposed to be 380 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.079 uh talking, but like we said, fuck this. We became 381 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.880 friends from that day and like we're still friends to day, 382 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.480 like so, but that's how we met. So that was 383 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.599 my first appointment. But then my dad came back from 384 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:49.160 like uh James Bay, and like as soon as he 385 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.519 got back, like like the fight, like you know, like 386 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.480 me and like my dad and my mom were arguing 387 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.119 over Like my dad was saying, like my dad, my 388 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.880 son won't be like mk ultra experiment, blah blah blah. 389 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:05.880 You grabbed all my stuff, put this in the car. 390 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:13.039 We left, and uh at the city they met, my 391 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:17.160 cup Endler was waiting there for me. Like he pulled 392 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.839 over my dad, made him like bring me back to 393 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.160 my mom. It was over a year without seeing him 394 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.559 after that, because like he tried to get me out 395 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:32.000 of the project and like that. So yeah, that's uh, 396 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.279 I would started that created the divorce with my payments, like. 397 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:43.279 So yeah, m hmm, Yeah, that's pretty rough. 398 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:51.039 You mentioned doctor Corey down Hammond in your book, and 399 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.920 it was very impressed that part. 400 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:56.960 Corey Down. 401 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.799 Uh, that's probably yeah, the psychologist from the University of Utah. 402 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.000 Okay, that's and Ron Paton's part. 403 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:08.400 Yeah, yeah, I was. 404 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.200 I was very impressed because there's not that many people 405 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.599 that really know about that. But that lecture is actually 406 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.359 going to be available because I found it and made 407 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.599 it available for people to listen to along with this 408 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.599 so that they understand it. So it's hypnosis and MPD 409 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:31.960 ritual abuse. That guy has done a comprehensive amount of 410 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:35.400 work on MK ultra programming and stuff like that. Like 411 00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:38.319 I'm surprised nobody has killed him, to be honest. 412 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.359 With you, and. 413 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.599 That is in there in the book, but I wanted to. 414 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.319 Bring it around to because you have pictures of your 415 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.440 family and stuff in the book as well too. I mean, 416 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.960 what was your family's connection to any of these organizations. 417 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.200 Well, actually, like, uh, my family was a normal family 418 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:09.240 as well as my friends families. Like uh, we all 419 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.720 got recruited through like kindergarten when they brought us to 420 00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:20.240 that job fair all at the same time. And uh, 421 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.680 I don't know, like like some people like say it's 422 00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:30.079 bloodlines and but like in our case, like's more more 423 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.680 blood work and stuff like that, you know, to like 424 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:39.119 size up psydekick ones and uh you know, like yeah, 425 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:44.799 like that was anyway in my case, Like it's not 426 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.480 everybody that's the same, like, but like there's a pattern 427 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.799 to this, like there's different types of like project that 428 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.680 they're looking for. Us was really like anyway, me and 429 00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.720 my friends were wanted all to be bad ass with guns. 430 00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:02.880 They wanted to be like as Pie's assassins, like black 431 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.400 offs and mercenaries, like all the same. And even like 432 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:11.880 the kindergarten teachers like are you sure, like because like 433 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.400 we're filling out those check this Twitter the Yeah. 434 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.839 So yeah, that's like I just wanted to ask you 435 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.960 that question because in many cases, not all, but in 436 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.200 many cases, there's often a connection to someone in the 437 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.799 family or there's a military base nearby or something like. 438 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.000 These people usually watch you from the time you're born, 439 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.079 you know, and they think, Okay, that's going to be 440 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:37.920 a good specimen. 441 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.359 So I was wondering if that was what happened to 442 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.279 you or if you were aware of it. 443 00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:50.519 I think your uncle was one of you on Cameron's patients, 444 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.000 and that's probably a link. 445 00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:58.079 And like the. 446 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.720 I don't know, like the it in my case was 447 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:10.440 really like just like they were recruiting. They filled up 448 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.000 as cool of like like they bought as school like 449 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.519 the CEI. You bought a school for a dollar, they 450 00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:22.119 refurbished it like uh to like make it like all 451 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.200 like nice because it was abandoned and like that was 452 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.640 for use for the Monarch project. They also bought the 453 00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.960 little church in front that was used as their undercover 454 00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:37.000 office and like uh yeah, like that's really how that 455 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:44.359 was going. Yeah, Like they made a bunch of people 456 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.279 rich in town. Like some of the kids that weren't 457 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.039 that school weren't in the project. They were like most 458 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.000 of the time when CIA agents were coming to train 459 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:58.160 us for certain like the fields or whatever, like they 460 00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.079 were just like taking out of the class and brought 461 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:06.720 to like like field trips or like a cinema day 462 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.319 or like movie days at school like in another classroom, 463 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.119 like they were supporting the class. M yeah, like that's 464 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.559 people from the CIA were coming and like some of 465 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.920 the like uh at that school, like nothing bad happened 466 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.279 like from like for for abuse and stuff like you know, 467 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:32.440 because like most of those CIA agents weren't probably aware. 468 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.359 It was like an m K through a project or 469 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.480 you know, like just like there were centre to like 470 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.400 in saye kids to this and like show techniques and 471 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:48.119 you know like in some case like more yeah. So 472 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:55.000 uh yeah, like all kinds of stuff from like people 473 00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:00.000 with all kinds of really like all kinds of feel 474 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:05.720 that came and like taught us a bunch of stuff, 475 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.279 like you know, like it was like six years in 476 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.880 tensive training through school and like sometimes we had to 477 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:16.119 catch up during like summer school like for like the 478 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.680 days that we were off or doing other stuff. Yeah. 479 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:29.839 So but like for family, like I don't like after 480 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.880 my mom was like after the divorce and all my 481 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:37.319 mom was with a few boyfriends that had military reason 482 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.039 their families that we were going to like the military 483 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.680 base and stuff like that. It was probably people from 484 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.440 the project that were just endling my mom so like 485 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.720 because my mom was innocent in that, like stout she 486 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.079 was doing good and like she got like mislead like 487 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:02.720 everybody that like gave their kids to this because like 488 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.839 you know, they weren't saying the truth, like it was bullshit. 489 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:09.239 Like you know, their monu was good. They made a 490 00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.199 lot of parents rich because like, you no, we had 491 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.320 like I think three hundred grand if we were dying, 492 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.880 Like so back up in the eighties, three hundred grand, 493 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.559 like people were describing all the kids in it, you no, 494 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:27.840 like so and like there were also like all those 495 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.280 papers were when we finished, like the the monarch programming 496 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.800 and all, like they gave us like an insurance paper 497 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:42.519 with our like ideas, with our agents like ak names 498 00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.360 and like our numbers and like insurance papers with like 499 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.559 I think ten different like claws like you know, like 500 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.800 for announces different amounts up to three hundred grand if 501 00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.559 we would die, and like uh you know from rooms 502 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:06.199 to like handcut to like you know like suicide a 503 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.159 damns to like stuff like that. You know, we're all 504 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:14.679 like different amounts and so that's that stuff that they 505 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:22.440 really pay and like uh so like yeah, like anyway, 506 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.679 they made a bunch of people rich and down, like 507 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:31.920 a bunch of people corrupt in town. H yeah, Like, 508 00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:39.400 h how many kids that you know? From the first 509 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:43.039 year to the second year, half the kids were gone. 510 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.760 I'm talking a small like a small community, you know, 511 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:53.920 like you know everybody kind of uh in those small communities, 512 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.480 and like when after kids are gone, and like it's 513 00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.480 not everybody that move out of town, like you know, 514 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:07.840 like uh so yeah, like one plus one equals to 515 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.320 like do your own maths, like yeah, so yeah those 516 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.280 kids that went where so. 517 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.639 So for someone who has seen stranger things? Mm hmm, 518 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.360 how would you say that your story shows up in 519 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.000 that series? It's the best way I can buy that question. 520 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.920 Well, it's literally based on me, on my story because 521 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.519 like they were supposed to call it mont Talk because 522 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:43.960 like this happened at Montalk, like the monsters of the 523 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.880 series and all like that happened to me, like on 524 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.400 the Montalk chart. That's that's true, like not the way 525 00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:55.280 they put it, not like you know, the they water 526 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.559 it down the sci fi it like, and I'm there 527 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.079 to edicate those people because people think it's a sci 528 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.719 fi and it's really not. You know like like some 529 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.519 of my friends died of that. Some of my friends 530 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:13.440 are stuck in jail for that. You know, like they 531 00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:17.880 tried to kill us, like you know, like nothing good 532 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.599 like ever happened from that, like but torture and troubles. 533 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.320 So like at some point, like they took like everything 534 00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:30.039 I had, you know, like my business by itself was 535 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.000 probably worth ten million, like you know, like it was 536 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.960 the phone was ringing like a pizza place, but instead 537 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:41.079 of being like pizza at like fifteen twenty bucks, it 538 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.199 was like parts at the fifteen hundred two thousand bucks, 539 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:48.559 so like but the same kind of rhythm. So I 540 00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:52.800 was generating a lot of money. Like yeah, so like 541 00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.239 you know there's three point five million, so that's you know, 542 00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.039 like they took everything I had work hard for and 543 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.239 like I tried to kill me. They eraised my memory, 544 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.840 they so at some point and you know, like when 545 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.960 you remember all the the stuff they made, it made 546 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:17.880 me do and like I don't want, like no kids 547 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:22.159 deserve to have this or like meet a guy like me, 548 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.199 like from like a you know, like another kid, because 549 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.159 like in those sra like they were making us like 550 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:33.480 sacrifice other kids, like so testing us from a very 551 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:37.519 young age, you know, Like so there's no one that 552 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:46.719 and no one should should not know and not be 553 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.199 aware of like what's happening. Like people have to know this, 554 00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:55.039 People have to watch their kids. Like like I'm talking 555 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.960 people of authoritier that we're doing this, you know, like 556 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:05.119 govindomn people like militaries, cops like you know, like teachers, 557 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:11.079 like you know, like social services and also like yeah, 558 00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:15.840 like a mirror too, like give a good warning and 559 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:20.840 like wake up call to people and like educate like 560 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.440 you know, like the series Stranger Things, there's a I 561 00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.199 think a billion follower for it, Like it would be 562 00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.480 nice that all those billion followers know the real truth 563 00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:34.559 behind the store, you know, and like because it's like 564 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:39.159 they're feeding this to kids through like cereals, through like pizza, 565 00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:46.440 through like toys and like I said, called skateboards cloud 566 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.000 like name it like all based on Stranger Things. That's 567 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.440 all based on my torture that I had. You know, 568 00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.960 that's that's insane, Like you know, like you look at 569 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.119 this from my point of view, like you know, I 570 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:03.719 don't know something. 571 00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:05.039 Basically what you're saying is that. 572 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.760 And Stranger Things, the things that happened to you would 573 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.880 be basically what happened to the character l right eleven 574 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:16.800 or whatever they call it. 575 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.800 Yeah, yeah, like exactly the same, like you know from it, 576 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.440 like the test that she does, like like deprivation and 577 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:29.920 stuff like that, that's all what the deprivation in my 578 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:33.679 training they did. That's like you know, and like the 579 00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:37.920 monsters and all that montalk that's that's my story from it, 580 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.000 Like what happened like why that based clothes and like 581 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:46.880 that's my personal story, like you know, like you know, 582 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.639 like yeah, me and my friends and like you know, 583 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.920 so yeah, I just want to put like things straight 584 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.960 because like yeah, like it's kind of not cool, you know. 585 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:02.000 More like like the only thing I got from this 586 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.159 was like trouble, like attempts on my life, like you know, 587 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:13.400 like yeah shit, hell from that, you know, I went 588 00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:18.320 to jail, like they tried to set me up. Like yeah, 589 00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:22.239 so at some point, like they're always picking on me 590 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:23.280 and all, like so like. 591 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:29.400 So what are some ways that recently you feel like 592 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:30.320 you've been targeted? 593 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:36.320 Everything I'm doing is being like censored or like shadow 594 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:42.920 band like uh, or they're playing with numbers, they're erasing 595 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:47.360 numbers of viewings and like blocking likes and stuff like that. 596 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.960 What else, like anything I do in life is being 597 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:59.119 like they're trying to keep me on low vibes all 598 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.880 the time. It's like if I'm on I vibes, like 599 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.280 I create, like you know, so. 600 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.039 Any other things like biological attacks or like any kind 601 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.239 of electromagnetic attacks or oysters technology or anything like. 602 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:21.559 That, well, yeah, like for sure, like there's there's stuff 603 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.719 that they're doing, like you know, like sometimes I feel like, 604 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.800 you know, like just off without knowing why. And I 605 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.000 know that's probably like you know, like at a trio 606 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.000 many it's just like from five g's and all like, 607 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.639 but I'm already the old school one with like you know, 608 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:43.480 like ultralof frequency sounds like that to like trigger me 609 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.440 to like be on neutral take orders and do whatever. 610 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.559 So like that was like through the six years of 611 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.159 main training at school, we're doing this probably twice a week, 612 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.840 just like getting us used forty and sometimes there wors 613 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.800 in class and we're just so like, yeah, like that's 614 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:09.559 stuff that they were doing too to yeah program us 615 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:14.679 like brainwash us, like the slow part. Like, but nothing 616 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.360 bad at school really happened, except like for like the 617 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:22.320 first LSD group class and like often I was doing 618 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.840 like uh, going to school on LSD for like those 619 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:33.280 psychic trainings days. So but yeah, like no abuse or 620 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:37.280 stuff like that, but like giving it as due to kids. 621 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:41.719 I'm seven years old, like uh, it's kind of an abuse. 622 00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:42.840 So like you know, like. 623 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.320 So in recent times, have they done anything like you know, 624 00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.000 come into your house when you're not home and move 625 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.079 things around or different things? 626 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:52.519 No? 627 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:54.760 No, no, no, no, no, I got pit bulls and 628 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.480 like but like, uh, I'm not like the regular ones. 629 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:03.880 I like, uh, they must be shorts drawing like who's 630 00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.519 coming to see me when they have to? Because like 631 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.119 with what happened and all, like I was good till 632 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.840 I didn't remember, Like now remember for me, it's easy 633 00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.679 to be on the same frequency, in the same vibe 634 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.599 and reproduce stuff like that, so you know, like you yeah, 635 00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:25.639 they know like they so yeah, like that's why I'm 636 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:27.880 able to do this, but like I'm not. Also, like 637 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.800 I kept a lot of like it's too like uh 638 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.599 in a kill switch so that like if they do 639 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:41.039 something like they don't want that. So like that's why 640 00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:44.519 like I'm able, Like because like I'm closing five or 641 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.880 six plays that they were using like they can't use 642 00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.400 those places anymore, like you know, like there's not many 643 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.280 people that came out and said that, And I'm at 644 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.119 the CIO asset like like it's a sworn statement and all, 645 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.400 like you know, it's not something you can bullshit on. 646 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.440 You take like big sentence like you know, it's not 647 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.880 the injoy Blue that will do it, that can do that, 648 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.280 you know, like because that's a major crime. Like a 649 00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:17.400 person I et like like Secrets Services staff or whatever, 650 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.840 like is no, I'm me, I'm an asset that I 651 00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:25.920 get my credentials and all, like that's like that's all facts, 652 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:28.519 Like yeah, you know, like my story is factual, Like 653 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.760 I'm ready to be interrogated on the Live Detector anything 654 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:38.119 that's in my book, so like on the Live show Like. 655 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:44.039 Yeah, yeah, well you do call your book the official deposition, 656 00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:49.400 And that's very clever. I think that being on podcasts 657 00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.280 and stuff such as this is going to be a 658 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.880 pain in the acts for them because they have to decide, now, 659 00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:58.440 what are we going to do about that? 660 00:45:58.960 --> 00:45:59.920 Are we just going to let it go? 661 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.480 But the thing about it is that it sounds like 662 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:10.039 you've put them in such a precarious position where you 663 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.840 know they can't do anything to you. That's too bad 664 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.679 because you know this book has been circulated, right, so. 665 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.960 Yeah, they know it would be like fucking dumb to 666 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.519 do this. So like like. 667 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.719 Yeah, yeah, So if there's anybody out there that is 668 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.719 a lawyer that deals with this kind of stuff, you 669 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.159 got to hit this guy up because that's what you need, 670 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:38.679 maybe even a team of lawyers at this point to 671 00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:40.239 tackle this because. 672 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.360 I have a lot of friends survivors too, Like it's 673 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.920 not like, uh, like I'm the only one and like 674 00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:47.840 a lot of my friends are well known. 675 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:48.159 Like. 676 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:56.159 So like we're no bullshit, Like we're really the the 677 00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:01.639 real kids that like we're like that inspired Stranger Things, 678 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.159 Like that's us like from that project. 679 00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:09.760 Like so yeah, I feel like, Okay, so you say 680 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.519 that all the time, and I feel like I just 681 00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.880 wanted the listener to understand that when you say that 682 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:18.280 it's like Stranger Things, don't take it literally because I 683 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:23.079 actually went and watched Stranger Things, and my listeners know. 684 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:24.360 That I hate TV. 685 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.079 I think it's one of the worst things that ever existed. 686 00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.519 So for me to go and watch it, it was 687 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.519 because I was really trying to understand exactly what you 688 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.840 were referencing. And so there is this direct parallel between 689 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.920 the story that you have in your book and what 690 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:41.360 goes on with the character eleven, which is played by 691 00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:45.480 Millie Bobby Brown. If you look at the actress Millie 692 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.880 Bobby Brown in real life, you realize that she's a 693 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.039 little bit troubled as well, and it tells you that 694 00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:58.159 perhaps even the actors that they've chosen to portray this 695 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.400 story are a little bit mind control as well. Like 696 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.039 if you could, if you if you know what to 697 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.400 look for, like if you know the look for the 698 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.360 vacancies their eyes and things like that that show you 699 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:15.320 that there's been some level of alterations or creations of 700 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:18.400 multiple personalities. You can tell it something is not quite 701 00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.360 right with some of them. And then later on when 702 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:25.719 she became an adult, she was very promiskyous. I think 703 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:27.559 she has the only fans or something that I could 704 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:33.159 do wrong, because she displays symptoms of being you know, 705 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:39.719 the the yeah, the beta programming, which is the sex 706 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.960 yeah traumas. 707 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.760 That's a basic of like the monarch programming. I think 708 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.599 like everyone goes through it. It's it's like a tool 709 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.840 of like trauma and also like a tool for later 710 00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:59.159 to be used like techniques to get information or like 711 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:04.119 to get out of situations or like so like it's 712 00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.480 a tool day Like yeah, so that's two way tools 713 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:08.920 kind of thing. 714 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:09.880 Yeah. 715 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.039 They mostly do that sex programming on women. I think, 716 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.280 I don't know how much do they do on men, but. 717 00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:23.440 Yeah, like yeah, yeah, that's a I think all the 718 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.840 survivors have been through this, like most of them anyway. 719 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.239 Right, So do you think that at any point you 720 00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.320 could be triggered to use your programming to do something 721 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.920 on behalf of yeah organizations, that it would be out 722 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:39.519 of your control? 723 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:39.920 Do you think? 724 00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.880 Yeah, but I'm taking a lot of precautions and like. 725 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:48.360 Yeah, specifically, well. 726 00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:55.760 True, like where I go to like you know, the 727 00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:59.840 situation I can like avoid and like phone calls I 728 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.920 don't know the numbers or like you know, like stuff 729 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:09.400 like that like to like yeah, like yeah, I'm pretty 730 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.400 to myself like and like I'm doing those shows. It's 731 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.079 not something I like to do, but I some ask 732 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.239 us like this information has to be out like yeah, 733 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:27.119 like uh thinking, uh, those kids like that are like 734 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:32.519 can avoid this, like so yeah, it's all worth it, 735 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:38.719 like you know, like yeah, like a messages like you know, 736 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.079 like there's limits of what we can't say, but like 737 00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.599 it's really to the extreme. It's like you know, like 738 00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.960 the extreme of even like when somebody is on it 739 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:51.760 as did the extreme, Like they're at a bit like 740 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:55.920 that too, like the Endlers. So like the program is extreme, 741 00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.159 you know, and like in my years, it was like 742 00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:03.639 that's a time like with the Church of said like 743 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.000 Michael Aquino and like anton Ave also came like for 744 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:13.760 like an event like the first kind of place of 745 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:19.440 the OTS before it became the OTS. Uh. Yeah, that's 746 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:21.440 one of the places that we're bringing us and doing 747 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.760 rituals there. And there were Obliss Tower there that were 748 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:36.119 doing resurrection from the underworld rituals and there and yeah, yeah, 749 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:42.800 so many stuff, but like not everybody that went to 750 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:47.599 SRRA and like but there's a lot that went through it, 751 00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.639 like depending on the fields that were like sending you 752 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.280 because like there were recruiting people for like, uh to 753 00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:01.039 be police. They were recruiting people to be like politician 754 00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.639 doctors like you know, like kinds of like higher rank 755 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:10.360 people to form them for like to be in possession later. 756 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.280 So that's the very very dangerous and important part of 757 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.599 everything that you've said, is that it's our doctors, our lawyers, 758 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:19.840 our teachers, are policemen. 759 00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:22.199 Many of them go through. 760 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.159 But a lot of them go through this kind of 761 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.960 ritual abuse in programming and you wouldn't even know, because 762 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.320 how do you know that somebody's there. 763 00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.840 They don't know exactly a lot of them don't even 764 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.639 know they went through this because like they're so brainwashed 765 00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.559 and like just like refreshed like through little like a 766 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.639 trigger to like I keep the hypnose like refresh all 767 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:51.559 the time, and like like like we're talking CIA, like 768 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.559 the techniques are like upgraded like from you know, like 769 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:03.280 the technologies are everywhere from all the time, so like 770 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:03.880 you know, like. 771 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.599 Yeah, it's yeah exactly. 772 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.079 So like for example, a doctor or someone anyone could 773 00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:14.480 come into his office as a patient and that person 774 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.199 could be a handler unknown to them and just reset 775 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.039 them or trigger them to do something, and you know, 776 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:20.960 they would never know. 777 00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.159 It's actually that simple. It's like. 778 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:31.079 What happened to you, It was unfortunate. There's not even 779 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.760 words in the English language to describe how unfortunate, how sad, 780 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.159 and how disturbing that is because you were just little kids. 781 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.960 But people don't understand that this is still going on 782 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.519 on large scales, and the recruitment that they're using is 783 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:48.719 universities and things like that. I mean we talk about 784 00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:51.559 Stanford and Harvard and those kinds of schools like that. 785 00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:53.960 Thirty thousand. 786 00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:55.440 I've heard. 787 00:53:56.719 --> 00:54:00.519 People are recruited into the CIA and military program and stuff, 788 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:02.760 and a lot of the times it's very innocent. It's 789 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.679 just the same way that you were recruited where they 790 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.360 were like, oh, well, you know you have a great life, 791 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:08.920 will pay you. 792 00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:12.519 Well, there's a pattern to it, like you not the 793 00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.480 same amount now, the same tests or whatever. But people 794 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:20.119 will recognize a pattern by reading my book if they 795 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:24.199 like they're you know, similar things in their life or whatever, 796 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.800 like if they doubt you know, like and like yeah, 797 00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.800 like that's one of the goals to educate them first, 798 00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:39.119 like to like who'se like in control and like like 799 00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.400 what's really going on? Like people like are being done down. 800 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.480 But at some point, like they have to wake up 801 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.480 and like because it's their kids that's going to be 802 00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:55.360 using those things, like or like I have to deals 803 00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:59.280 with those things later on. So yeah, like we have 804 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.760 to stop the and like I think it's the right 805 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.639 time to do this. I mean, yeah, I'm the proof 806 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:09.679 like the first legal document. That's the first legal document 807 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:14.719 on like month doc actually happened. Like my my statement, 808 00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.599 my book is like not a rise and all. It 809 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.519 can be used anywhere and in a courthouse anywhere in 810 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:26.599 the world. It's a legal document. So like people that 811 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.480 advocse like and want to like show, hey. 812 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:34.199 This guy, like that's a yah said, that's that's a story, 813 00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:38.400 Like that's a statement, like look at like this similar 814 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.400 this similar, this similar, you know, like so like. 815 00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:43.800 It's it's a tool that people will be able to 816 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:48.039 use in court, and like that was a goal and so. 817 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.480 Well, you know, I can totally understand your position that 818 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:54.519 maybe you feel like you don't have anything else to 819 00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:56.880 lose because you know they've already tried to take everything 820 00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:00.480 from you anyways, so what else you know, what you know, 821 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.639 do your best. What else can they do to you 822 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:05.719 besides kill you at this point, and they're not preparing 823 00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:07.360 because they. 824 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.280 That get's gonna bring is gonna be like not even 825 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.400 fun yet. Yeah. 826 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:20.800 Yeah, because you keep to yourself, how can somebody contact 827 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.280 you if they want to talk to you about this stuff? 828 00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:29.079 Uh? True? Like my website like terror at montalk. I 829 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.119 just started a website with so when you get acted, 830 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:36.840 she helped me, like started this website. So it's terror 831 00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:41.440 at montalk dot com and yeah, like people can contact 832 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:46.440 me there and like, yeah, I replied to them, like 833 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.360 that's the best way because like Facebook and all, like 834 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:55.239 they're I'm certain most of the time for like anything 835 00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:58.280 on Facebook, Like I think I'm a hundred times on 836 00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.960 Facebook jail and so that's three months at a time 837 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:04.599 for a while. 838 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.079 So yeah, yeah, I mean, I can't even remember how 839 00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:10.320 we ended up connecting on Facebook. I think you might 840 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.280 have sent me a friend request or something and I 841 00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:17.119 just accepted it, but whatever, Like I never went through 842 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.280 your page or anything, and I just saw something that 843 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.079 you posted and I was like, you know what, I've 844 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.679 been meaning to talk to this guy and find out 845 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.719 who who he is and why he's on my Facebook page. 846 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.559 An I think that's how we ended up connecting. So 847 00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.039 I'm glad that you did make that connection because I 848 00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.920 would I probably have just skimmed over in any case, 849 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.920 because I have so many people that post stuff like 850 00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.559 yours and I don't know, you know, what they're all about, 851 00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:45.719 you know. So Chris, thanks for sharing your story on 852 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.800 the Balance Authenticity podcasts And is there anything else you 853 00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:52.119 would like to say before we end? 854 00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.000 Uh. Yeah, Like I invite people to check it, like 855 00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:01.719 into my story, into other survivors stories too, like you know, 856 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:05.800 like I'm not by myself a survivor. There my story 857 00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:08.320 is really popular because of stranger things, but like some 858 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.519 people probably added worse than me. And like I think 859 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:18.920 like if people like start it skating themselves on what's 860 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.360 really going on, what's really controlling them? And like, because 861 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.159 I'm talking about five G also that like because we 862 00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:27.360 were the guinea pig for five G and like for 863 00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:31.079 like population control to at the same time, we were 864 00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:35.320 a study for that. So I'm trying to like wake 865 00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:39.760 up masses to like what's going on and like to 866 00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:44.159 take back control of our our lovely place that we 867 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:47.920 live on and like mother Earth is like our best 868 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.519 ally and that and like, yeah, we got to protect her, 869 00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.880 We got to protect life form by itself because like 870 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:58.639 they're trying to sanitize everything, even life. So yeah, like 871 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.559 it's a good wake up call. And you were in 872 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:05.639 the book, and like for what's going on to kids, 873 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.960 what those people are doing to kids, like the practice 874 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.320 they do and all, and like so it's made the 875 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.119 true like the hard way, like you know, I've I've 876 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.960 went through all this and all, and like yeah, I'm 877 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.400 not there to like show off because I could like 878 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:29.880 like I had an interesting life, you know, and I'm 879 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.360 not saying all those you know, like it was like 880 00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.719 I had good shots in my life too, But like 881 00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:38.400 it's not a book of that. It's a book of 882 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:44.519 you know, like facts and all. Like yeah, my gold 883 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:49.559 is stet scape people. So Terror at montalk dot com. 884 00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:53.159 All right, Terror at montalk dot com, thanks for being 885 00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.079 on the Boundance Authenticity podcast. 886 00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:57.039 Thanks for having me. 887 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:08.639 You're listening to the Boundless Authenticity Podcast, where we discuss 888 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:13.480 everything related to the evolution of human consciousness at. 889 01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:16.760 Very least ule need to understand. In the United States, 890 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:21.519 builds bokers, which are basically cities on your ground every 891 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:26.840 three months. Basically dream into your self. Conscious is your love, 892 01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:33.079 your intuition, you creativity and imagination unschanged from conscious sais 893 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.280 and and locate all your life very hard soul by 894 01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:41.199 how I are cultious, muspelity, cultures, quary, your voority. We 895 01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:44.760 live in a multi dimensional reality, whether it comes through esitary. 896 01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:48.239 Information in the spiritual realms or the UFO people experiences, 897 01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:51.440 or mainstream on the physics and through Natrem science now 898 01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:54.320 realizing that parallel dimensions probably in this we're all. 899 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:56.719 Spiritual means, we're all having these human experiences. 900 01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:58.840 We've heard of that place over and over over, But 901 01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:02.039 what does that really and all of the questions of 902 01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.079 why we have these answers inside of. 903 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.000 Ourselves, We're ultimately studying the nature of what it is 904 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:11.000 to be human, good and evil, our psychology, how we fink, 905 01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:11.519 and our health. 906 01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:14.239 That's why I love Bruce Lee's great quote all knowledge 907 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:16.039 is ultimately self knowledge.