Speaker 1: The boundlessh Authenticity Podcast.
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Boundless
Speaker 2: Authenticity Podcast. My guest today is Chris Latterer, who was
Speaker 2: born in Canada in nineteen seventy five and from a
Speaker 2: young age was subjected to a covert government program involving
Speaker 2: psychological experimentation, trauma based mind control, and black ops military training,
Speaker 2: which was known as MK all Trip and it was
Speaker 2: run by agencies like the CIA, Canadian Intelligence and other
Speaker 2: military contractors. At age six, Chris was recruited into Project Monarch,
Speaker 2: which used children for dissociative identity programming, psychic testing and
Speaker 2: super soldier training. Chris encountered figures such as Doctor Green
Speaker 2: of Operation paper Clip, Doctor John Gittinger, and General Michael Aquino,
Speaker 2: with programming carried out at the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal.
Speaker 2: Chris was assigned to Alias Duncan Cameron for Black Site missions,
Speaker 2: including those at Camp Hero in Montauk, New York, and
Speaker 2: his training involved extreme trauma, ritual abuse, and experiments with
Speaker 2: Ashville projection and the mon Talk Chair. Particularly during the
Speaker 2: August twelfth, nineteen eighty three temporal experiment. Chris has witnessed
Speaker 2: horrific events involving other children, and endured lasting effects including
Speaker 2: memory fragmentation, harassment, incarceration, and attempts on his life. This story,
Speaker 2: Chris believes, has been hijacked by television writers and rebranded
Speaker 2: is what we now know to be the popular Netflix
Speaker 2: series Stranger Things. Chris has written a book about it,
Speaker 2: and this is what we are discussing today. So, Chris,
Speaker 2: how's it going going good?
Speaker 3: Thanks for yeah, thanks, that's describing well like you did
Speaker 3: a good job there. Thanks. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the first time that anyone has ever
Speaker 2: submitted a book to me for the podcast, and I
Speaker 2: have actually read the entire thing. It's hard not to
Speaker 2: read it. So it's called The mon Talk Boys, Terror
Speaker 2: at Montalk, the Last Moments of Camp hero MK, Ultra
Speaker 2: Wellness Experiment. Don't the true story behind Stranger Things? And
Speaker 2: you have it in here that it's the legal testimony,
Speaker 2: an official scorn statement by you.
Speaker 1: And let's see what else you have here.
Speaker 2: It's a bunch of different stuff, like you're really, I mean,
Speaker 2: from the very beginning, you just pack it full of information.
Speaker 2: It's hard not to look at it and be like,
Speaker 2: what the hell you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all factual information. Like it's all information you
Speaker 3: can rely on, Like yeah, yeah, everything that's in the book,
Speaker 3: like I'm ready anytime to be interrogated under a polygraph desk,
Speaker 3: like this is really like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really took my time to read it
Speaker 2: and try to validate what was going on, because when
Speaker 2: you're dealing with MK ultra and someone that says that
Speaker 2: they've been a victim of mind control and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: I mean professionally I do that, So I have my
Speaker 2: feelers on where I'm looking for authenticity anywhere that I
Speaker 2: can to validate that this person is saying the truth,
Speaker 2: because there are so many people that have just been
Speaker 2: abused that then go on to make this stuff up.
Speaker 1: I found.
Speaker 2: So reading the book, I realized that not only do
Speaker 2: you have a section that pretty much would educate anyone
Speaker 2: that doesn't know what MK ultra is all about and
Speaker 2: mind control and all the different facets of it, it
Speaker 2: educates you in such a detailed way that it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you can understand that, and then you can get into
Speaker 2: the body of it and you can be like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: so everything that I've ever heard that is like every
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist wet dream is actually true, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah pretty much, Like yeah, like it's all based on
Speaker 3: something like my story is like the Bays have so
Speaker 3: many like tales and legends that were inspired by it,
Speaker 3: you know, like and like modified and all. And I'm
Speaker 3: you know, like as people think it's a sci fi
Speaker 3: and it's not like you know, it's me, it's my friends,
Speaker 3: Like I lost some friends in this, Like this is
Speaker 3: the crude reality of the project. Like you know, like
Speaker 3: no bullshit. I'm there to cut the bullshit because you know,
Speaker 3: like it's kind of an insult for me too, because
Speaker 3: like you see like stranger things, like you know, it's
Speaker 3: all sweet, but like it was not like that's based
Speaker 3: on my on my torture. They're like you know, like
Speaker 3: the extreme of a torture that created this. So like
Speaker 3: uh yeah, like I'm here to expose the truth and
Speaker 3: like you know, like educate people, like that's the goal,
Speaker 3: and like wake up people because like I give so
Speaker 3: many details and in the book that people will like
Speaker 3: because a lot of it's not just me, it's thousands
Speaker 3: of people that went to those programs, so like and
Speaker 3: a lot of people are like doubt that they went
Speaker 3: through it. So by reading the book, like they always
Speaker 3: use the same pattern, like because they have a winning formula,
Speaker 3: so it's always the same pattern, Like are close. So
Speaker 3: somebody that reads the book and like oh yeah that
Speaker 3: that that that because like I really give details of
Speaker 3: like how they recruit, how they the train, like you know,
Speaker 3: like ow they were proceeding. Like so yeah, people can
Speaker 3: like see if they went through it or not. Like
Speaker 3: like it because it's going to trigger memories for sure,
Speaker 3: like to somebody that went to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's true.
Speaker 2: And I think that one of the facts about MK
Speaker 2: Alter that is commonly overlooked is due to the reality
Speaker 2: that conspiracy theorists do sensationalize a lot of it, and
Speaker 2: in sensationalizing it, it takes away from the severity of
Speaker 2: it and from the reality that this stuff is actually
Speaker 2: happening to people still to this day, and there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there, whether they are sleepers
Speaker 2: or they suspect that something has been done to them,
Speaker 2: but their memory has been wiped. And I mean, I
Speaker 2: even I think I may have told the story on
Speaker 2: this show before I even met. A girl from Florida.
Speaker 2: She was born in Georgia. She was subjected to some
Speaker 2: kind of ritual abuse. I know she told me she
Speaker 2: was raped and things like that, but she was eventually
Speaker 2: so traumatized and so broken that she basically ended up
Speaker 2: with a somewhat irreversible form of dissociated identity disorder. And
Speaker 2: her parents didn't understand her. But her parents, her father
Speaker 2: was the one who sold her into the ritual abuse
Speaker 2: in the first place, and it seemed like whenever he
Speaker 2: was around, he would have certain keywords and commands that
Speaker 2: would trigger her, that would cause her to slip into
Speaker 2: this personality. And the only way that she could communicate
Speaker 2: what was going on was through drawings. And she's actually
Speaker 2: the very first person that described me that having being
Speaker 2: subjected to this and having like alters and stuff is
Speaker 2: like the part of you that's actually you, the true personality,
Speaker 2: is inside of a big mansion somewhere at the back,
Speaker 2: chained to the wall, and you're screaming to get out,
Speaker 2: and there's nothing that anybody can do to help you,
Speaker 2: because even you don't know how to get into that
Speaker 2: self identity anymore. You're only aware that it exists what
Speaker 2: used to be the shell of yourself. It's your therey,
Speaker 2: you know. So I think there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: that are walking around like that, if they hear this,
Speaker 2: it might wake them up, It might cause them to
Speaker 2: come forward. I mean you have in your acknowledgments you
Speaker 2: have another MK Ultra survivor and and I'm just briefly
Speaker 2: scrolling through, Yeah, and then.
Speaker 3: The survivor of the Item memorial too, but the earlier experiments,
Speaker 3: like that's how we met, like through the action class
Speaker 3: because like I have a file there, but it's not
Speaker 3: in the same years as the as a doctor you
Speaker 3: and Cameron, so like it's another like like what, I
Speaker 3: got to talk more with the lawyer about this if
Speaker 3: they're gonna like add those years or like maybe starting
Speaker 3: out their action because there's so many kids that went there,
Speaker 3: like even later. So yeah, like like the Action Class
Speaker 3: at the moment is just like the opening kind of
Speaker 3: thing like the other ones.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, And so one of the things that
Speaker 2: stood out to me immediately, I mean, you're bailing on
Speaker 2: page fourteen of two hundred and sixty pages in the acknowledgements,
Speaker 2: you reference Atlanta Freeland, who helped you and and to
Speaker 2: figure this thing out, And so that stands out already
Speaker 2: where these stories are concerned, because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people who they will tell you all this stuff that
Speaker 2: sounds great, it sounds realistic, but then they can't ever
Speaker 2: say that they've been to anyone to get any assistance
Speaker 2: to bring forth these memories, so that kills the credibility.
Speaker 2: But you've done everything that you can to really lend
Speaker 2: to your credibility, So you've had a lot of people
Speaker 2: that have helped you. I laughed because this lady saw
Speaker 2: ge galactech. She probably will hear this and laugh. She
Speaker 2: followed me on YouTube, and I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: but that was before I even got the book from
Speaker 2: you or anything, So I don't know what else of
Speaker 2: mine she saw that she liked.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, she's super cool. Like she's like she's
Speaker 3: a loting to like a podcast, like she does a
Speaker 3: lot of it, like a Pirate radio there, like with
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Ryder and all. So uh, and like she helps
Speaker 3: me with the book, like for the finishing of the
Speaker 3: book and for the website, like she's an amazing friend.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, Misha Johnson's a great lady too.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's like she changed my life actually, because like
Speaker 3: I was having those slash back that many people have,
Speaker 3: like you know, memories that aren't fitting and you think,
Speaker 3: like you know, like it's just a dream or like
Speaker 3: you know, but like at some point those slashbacks were
Speaker 3: like really not fitting with the the the frame thought
Speaker 3: they implanted in me when they raised my memory, because
Speaker 3: like they raised my memory with a machine. Like I'll
Speaker 3: explain the machine first, because like people are curious about this,
Speaker 3: Like it's a machine that they put on the desk
Speaker 3: you're sitting and like you put your face in it.
Speaker 3: There's like a pad on the for your forehead and
Speaker 3: on the chin and like yeah, there's two sticks that
Speaker 3: comes on your temples there and they have like graystick
Speaker 3: with a ball at the end and like on that
Speaker 3: machine at a base there's a wheel and this is
Speaker 3: giving you shock on the temples. It just cooks your brain.
Speaker 3: Like and that's a memory that came back through the regression.
Speaker 3: That knows because I was having those flashbacks and like
Speaker 3: you know, it was getting overwhelming in my life, like
Speaker 3: to a point like it's so vivid, so like so
Speaker 3: I had to check into it because I thought I
Speaker 3: was going crazy, Like so did the regression that knows
Speaker 3: what Michae Johnston, she unlocked my memory because like they
Speaker 3: blocked my memory. They you know, like the they put
Speaker 3: like block hypnotic blockage and hypnotics suggestions and all like reflexed.
Speaker 3: You feel tired when you look into like n k
Speaker 3: Ultru like you know, like protection for them, just so
Speaker 3: you don't dig into it. So yeah, like she unlike
Speaker 3: those memory is that that sort of brought back that
Speaker 3: memory of the the machine like that they use at
Speaker 3: the hospital to do this and uh for the to
Speaker 3: erase the memory. And in my case, uh, like one
Speaker 3: of the handlers and the doctor said like a stop
Speaker 3: because like you uh, because you won't remember how to
Speaker 3: breed because like it's so strong, like you get like vegetable.
Speaker 3: Like if you stay on that machine like too long
Speaker 3: and like you won't remember how to breathe and you'll die,
Speaker 3: you know, like because it's real fucking you up. So yeah,
Speaker 3: like uh, once they did this, after they put this
Speaker 3: frame of thought that I had the nicest childhood. I
Speaker 3: went twice to Disney and that I couldn't remember anything
Speaker 3: that was important, but they didn't specify, Uh was it
Speaker 3: for like CIA stuff or was it for like my
Speaker 3: life or so from that point, like I had these shoes,
Speaker 3: I was forgetting everything that was important. I couldn't like
Speaker 3: like till I get that nose done. So I think
Speaker 3: that a lot of the people that are fucked up
Speaker 3: by mcareultural are probably by the probably fucked up by
Speaker 3: stupid people not competent to do like it not take
Speaker 3: like programmation and like botch their jobs, and like people
Speaker 3: are sucked up after like you know, and like a
Speaker 3: lot of people can be helped like if they if
Speaker 3: they dig into their like and go to the base
Speaker 3: of their problem. But yeah, in my case, that changed
Speaker 3: my life. Life quality has changed sence because like me,
Speaker 3: my life was going good up till twenty ten when
Speaker 3: I started remembering stuff and I asked my mom questions
Speaker 3: about one of the tests I was done at the
Speaker 3: Adam Memorial Hospital in Montreal, a test that I had
Speaker 3: a bunch of needles on my head and like my
Speaker 3: eyes were kept open and like they were putting drops
Speaker 3: in my eyes and like that fucking thing was so painful.
Speaker 3: That was like, so I asked my mom, like what
Speaker 3: was that test, you know about the But my mom like, uh,
Speaker 3: not to be bad or whatever she's programmed to to, like,
Speaker 3: uh tell my handler if like I ask questions or
Speaker 3: I talk about stuff or you know, like you know
Speaker 3: or I wake up. Like that was like a life
Speaker 3: contract kind of thing. So she told my handler like
Speaker 3: most of so like from there, like you know, I
Speaker 3: had like a jeep shop like uh at three point
Speaker 3: five million and then toy, I just opened the first franchise.
Speaker 3: I had six opening that year. I just bought like
Speaker 3: a square kilometer then with a big building to supply
Speaker 3: all my franchise and all. I had that mega plan
Speaker 3: like you know, like and uh yeah, like the business
Speaker 3: was going, had five thousand customer. I was providing parts
Speaker 3: for jeep first scrapyard for dealers for like everybody was
Speaker 3: passing through me for Jeep parts so worldwide, like I
Speaker 3: was selling worldwide. And they started like making me trouble
Speaker 3: and setting me up, bringing some brand new Jeeps cut
Speaker 3: in pieces like on the yard like overnight and stuff
Speaker 3: like that just to make trouble and attacking me from everywhere.
Speaker 3: And yeah, like they set me up. They sent some
Speaker 3: people to steal from me fifty thousand bucks of tools.
Speaker 3: I went and like I found out who it was.
Speaker 3: I went to like beat one up, and you got
Speaker 3: like retarded because of that, like permanently, a permanent lesion.
Speaker 3: And also I was a charged with attempted murder and
Speaker 3: like home invasion because I kicked the door in uh yeah,
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff. And plus like the day when
Speaker 3: they arrested me, I just had like firearms giving to
Speaker 3: me modified firearms like so like I was arrested with
Speaker 3: modified firearms too, and so yeah, and they were trying
Speaker 3: to set me up for good to go in jail.
Speaker 3: My body is two got set up. Like everybody that
Speaker 3: was like uh in the program, like my my kind
Speaker 3: of crew there like got set up. We all got
Speaker 3: like arrested the same period of time and all that
Speaker 3: because I was starting to wake up and ask questions
Speaker 3: so like because like I was a grand finalist of
Speaker 3: the Monarch project in our area, like all the schools
Speaker 3: involving this and all, and probably due to like what
Speaker 3: happened to man talk. So yeah, like if I was
Speaker 3: if I went through all this and I was like
Speaker 3: starting to remember, it was just a matter of time
Speaker 3: for them to like they lack somewhere. So yeah, they
Speaker 3: didn't take any chance. And like they tried to take
Speaker 3: us off, like they tried to kill me. They tried
Speaker 3: to kill another of my buddy, like we survive, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I got reanimated. The nurse got killed a few weeks
Speaker 3: after the nurse that saved me, Like you know, like
Speaker 3: my story is pretty hardcore, like so yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: technique they used to dispose of people and all. And
Speaker 3: like as soon as they take one of us out
Speaker 3: or like one of us dies, they raise everything. It's
Speaker 3: like we never existed. You look, you tried to face it,
Speaker 3: try to like social networks or anything like in the
Speaker 3: bad news or in archives, like everything vanishes like we
Speaker 3: never existed, like where ghosts.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so it seems like your parents were
Speaker 2: in on it in your story. You make it seem
Speaker 2: like your father didn't really know what was going on
Speaker 2: until a certain point and then what do they do?
Speaker 1: They stared in.
Speaker 3: Well, no, like my dad when my mom signed me
Speaker 3: in because like they were recruiting in the job fair,
Speaker 3: like I got recruited like with a bunch of my friends.
Speaker 3: Like in the job fair, people were talking about like
Speaker 3: their their work. They had tables with stuff about their
Speaker 3: their their trades and and the last boot was cops military.
Speaker 3: They were like recruitment papers, drug samples like uns and
Speaker 3: like they were like a bunch of papers and like checklists,
Speaker 3: and they offered us to participate in the secret project,
Speaker 3: so and like what kind of field would interest us,
Speaker 3: and so like we filled up those checklists, you know,
Speaker 3: and they gave us papers to give to our parents.
Speaker 3: In my case, my dad was working at James Bay
Speaker 3: for a few months at a time coming back. So
Speaker 3: my mom got back home, I gave her those papers
Speaker 3: and she was working with those cops actually in the
Speaker 3: same office. And also like she knew them and like
Speaker 3: there were nice, nice people like stuck with so uh
Speaker 3: she yeah, like she signed me up in it, and
Speaker 3: like we had from there an appointment with the military
Speaker 3: read the CIA, John getting girl from the like the
Speaker 3: the chief recruiter of the CIA. So yeah, cops and
Speaker 3: like people from the school and all, and like they
Speaker 3: were just selling the project. My mom. Everybody was around
Speaker 3: her and talking to her at the same time, and
Speaker 3: like he's going to be a genius and blah blah
Speaker 3: blah and blah blah blah, and like it's gonna be
Speaker 3: done through light traumas you won't remember nothing because don't
Speaker 3: your nose ears the good cash and like you'll have
Speaker 3: like yeah, like support all your life from like the
Speaker 3: elites and blah blah blah, you know, like putting this
Speaker 3: all nice, you know, so uh that I like they
Speaker 3: would synchronize my brain, that I would use my brain
Speaker 3: like one hundred percent of my brain compared to like
Speaker 3: people that are normal people are not using fifty percent
Speaker 3: of their brain, so like this would be done to
Speaker 3: like traumas and so yeah, like it was just nice,
Speaker 3: and the cash was good and I had like insurance
Speaker 3: like a pension for later like you know, like cash,
Speaker 3: Like my mom was touching cash, so she sent me
Speaker 3: in not knowing really what's like because they were watering
Speaker 3: everything down. And from there, like my first appointment, I
Speaker 3: went to school by myself for the first time walking. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I was six years old, and that's where I
Speaker 3: met my buddy Eric for the first time. We had
Speaker 3: the same appointment with two different handler cup handlers, and
Speaker 3: we are arrved at the same time. They gave us
Speaker 3: like a checklist again like on cartoons. We love like
Speaker 3: Star Wars personnel, we love you know, all about our
Speaker 3: taste and like it just to size us and learn
Speaker 3: about us, like to study us. So super he rose
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, you know, kill stuff. So from there
Speaker 3: they gave us something and they sent us to play
Speaker 3: in the yard for probably like half an hour. For
Speaker 3: the five minutes it was a kind of drug. I
Speaker 3: don't know like what it was. Anyway, when like Eric
Speaker 3: had a tennis ball there, this came back with the
Speaker 3: nose and alls. Like because we know each other from
Speaker 3: all our lives, we didn't know where we met, so
Speaker 3: like you know, so that came back with the deep nose.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like after that playtime outside, like they came
Speaker 3: to get us, we went back inside. We went each
Speaker 3: in our little office with our handler. There were a
Speaker 3: machine that were like different like lenses of a and
Speaker 3: we're looking at it and like it started with like
Speaker 3: a Damien flag that was turning, and after it was
Speaker 3: like a series of image of like like war image
Speaker 3: from like old Germany. Uh, like murder scenes like adult scenes,
Speaker 3: a lot of like orgs and stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: like suic side scenes like family cut in pieces like
Speaker 3: you know, like but like all repetition and like with
Speaker 3: those different lands in front. It's so like wor seing
Speaker 3: this in different colors all the time, and like for
Speaker 3: I don't know, how long it lasted. But that was
Speaker 3: the type of image that like you know, like a
Speaker 3: nuclear war, like you know, the blasts and stuff like
Speaker 3: that that were passing in those machine. And uh, after this,
Speaker 3: like we finished, me and my buddy Eric finished at
Speaker 3: the same time, and we got out of our little
Speaker 3: and like they before we we could leave, we had
Speaker 3: to sleep at this an hour. So like they installed
Speaker 3: us in the like the nurse office, like there were
Speaker 3: two little bears that we were sleeping there for an hour.
Speaker 3: And after like we left, we weren't supposed to be
Speaker 3: uh talking, but like we said, fuck this. We became
Speaker 3: friends from that day and like we're still friends to day,
Speaker 3: like so, but that's how we met. So that was
Speaker 3: my first appointment. But then my dad came back from
Speaker 3: like uh James Bay, and like as soon as he
Speaker 3: got back, like like the fight, like you know, like
Speaker 3: me and like my dad and my mom were arguing
Speaker 3: over Like my dad was saying, like my dad, my
Speaker 3: son won't be like mk ultra experiment, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: You grabbed all my stuff, put this in the car.
Speaker 3: We left, and uh at the city they met, my
Speaker 3: cup Endler was waiting there for me. Like he pulled
Speaker 3: over my dad, made him like bring me back to
Speaker 3: my mom. It was over a year without seeing him
Speaker 3: after that, because like he tried to get me out
Speaker 3: of the project and like that. So yeah, that's uh,
Speaker 3: I would started that created the divorce with my payments, like.
Speaker 1: So yeah, m hmm, Yeah, that's pretty rough.
Speaker 2: You mentioned doctor Corey down Hammond in your book, and
Speaker 2: it was very impressed that part.
Speaker 1: Corey Down.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's probably yeah, the psychologist from the University of Utah.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's and Ron Paton's part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was very impressed because there's not that many people
Speaker 2: that really know about that. But that lecture is actually
Speaker 2: going to be available because I found it and made
Speaker 2: it available for people to listen to along with this
Speaker 2: so that they understand it. So it's hypnosis and MPD
Speaker 2: ritual abuse. That guy has done a comprehensive amount of
Speaker 2: work on MK ultra programming and stuff like that. Like
Speaker 2: I'm surprised nobody has killed him, to be honest.
Speaker 3: With you, and.
Speaker 1: That is in there in the book, but I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Bring it around to because you have pictures of your
Speaker 2: family and stuff in the book as well too. I mean,
Speaker 2: what was your family's connection to any of these organizations.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, like, uh, my family was a normal family
Speaker 3: as well as my friends families. Like uh, we all
Speaker 3: got recruited through like kindergarten when they brought us to
Speaker 3: that job fair all at the same time. And uh,
Speaker 3: I don't know, like like some people like say it's
Speaker 3: bloodlines and but like in our case, like's more more
Speaker 3: blood work and stuff like that, you know, to like
Speaker 3: size up psydekick ones and uh you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: like that was anyway in my case, Like it's not
Speaker 3: everybody that's the same, like, but like there's a pattern
Speaker 3: to this, like there's different types of like project that
Speaker 3: they're looking for. Us was really like anyway, me and
Speaker 3: my friends were wanted all to be bad ass with guns.
Speaker 3: They wanted to be like as Pie's assassins, like black
Speaker 3: offs and mercenaries, like all the same. And even like
Speaker 3: the kindergarten teachers like are you sure, like because like
Speaker 3: we're filling out those check this Twitter the Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's like I just wanted to ask you
Speaker 2: that question because in many cases, not all, but in
Speaker 2: many cases, there's often a connection to someone in the
Speaker 2: family or there's a military base nearby or something like.
Speaker 2: These people usually watch you from the time you're born,
Speaker 2: you know, and they think, Okay, that's going to be
Speaker 2: a good specimen.
Speaker 1: So I was wondering if that was what happened to
Speaker 1: you or if you were aware of it.
Speaker 3: I think your uncle was one of you on Cameron's patients,
Speaker 3: and that's probably a link.
Speaker 2: And like the.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like the it in my case was
Speaker 3: really like just like they were recruiting. They filled up
Speaker 3: as cool of like like they bought as school like
Speaker 3: the CEI. You bought a school for a dollar, they
Speaker 3: refurbished it like uh to like make it like all
Speaker 3: like nice because it was abandoned and like that was
Speaker 3: for use for the Monarch project. They also bought the
Speaker 3: little church in front that was used as their undercover
Speaker 3: office and like uh yeah, like that's really how that
Speaker 3: was going. Yeah, Like they made a bunch of people
Speaker 3: rich in town. Like some of the kids that weren't
Speaker 3: that school weren't in the project. They were like most
Speaker 3: of the time when CIA agents were coming to train
Speaker 3: us for certain like the fields or whatever, like they
Speaker 3: were just like taking out of the class and brought
Speaker 3: to like like field trips or like a cinema day
Speaker 3: or like movie days at school like in another classroom,
Speaker 3: like they were supporting the class. M yeah, like that's
Speaker 3: people from the CIA were coming and like some of
Speaker 3: the like uh at that school, like nothing bad happened
Speaker 3: like from like for for abuse and stuff like you know,
Speaker 3: because like most of those CIA agents weren't probably aware.
Speaker 3: It was like an m K through a project or
Speaker 3: you know, like just like there were centre to like
Speaker 3: in saye kids to this and like show techniques and
Speaker 3: you know like in some case like more yeah. So
Speaker 3: uh yeah, like all kinds of stuff from like people
Speaker 3: with all kinds of really like all kinds of feel
Speaker 3: that came and like taught us a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 3: like you know, like it was like six years in
Speaker 3: tensive training through school and like sometimes we had to
Speaker 3: catch up during like summer school like for like the
Speaker 3: days that we were off or doing other stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So but like for family, like I don't like after
Speaker 3: my mom was like after the divorce and all my
Speaker 3: mom was with a few boyfriends that had military reason
Speaker 3: their families that we were going to like the military
Speaker 3: base and stuff like that. It was probably people from
Speaker 3: the project that were just endling my mom so like
Speaker 3: because my mom was innocent in that, like stout she
Speaker 3: was doing good and like she got like mislead like
Speaker 3: everybody that like gave their kids to this because like
Speaker 3: you know, they weren't saying the truth, like it was bullshit.
Speaker 3: Like you know, their monu was good. They made a
Speaker 3: lot of parents rich because like, you no, we had
Speaker 3: like I think three hundred grand if we were dying,
Speaker 3: Like so back up in the eighties, three hundred grand,
Speaker 3: like people were describing all the kids in it, you no,
Speaker 3: like so and like there were also like all those
Speaker 3: papers were when we finished, like the the monarch programming
Speaker 3: and all, like they gave us like an insurance paper
Speaker 3: with our like ideas, with our agents like ak names
Speaker 3: and like our numbers and like insurance papers with like
Speaker 3: I think ten different like claws like you know, like
Speaker 3: for announces different amounts up to three hundred grand if
Speaker 3: we would die, and like uh you know from rooms
Speaker 3: to like handcut to like you know like suicide a
Speaker 3: damns to like stuff like that. You know, we're all
Speaker 3: like different amounts and so that's that stuff that they
Speaker 3: really pay and like uh so like yeah, like anyway,
Speaker 3: they made a bunch of people rich and down, like
Speaker 3: a bunch of people corrupt in town. H yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: h how many kids that you know? From the first
Speaker 3: year to the second year, half the kids were gone.
Speaker 3: I'm talking a small like a small community, you know,
Speaker 3: like you know everybody kind of uh in those small communities,
Speaker 3: and like when after kids are gone, and like it's
Speaker 3: not everybody that move out of town, like you know,
Speaker 3: like uh so yeah, like one plus one equals to
Speaker 3: like do your own maths, like yeah, so yeah those
Speaker 3: kids that went where so.
Speaker 2: So for someone who has seen stranger things? Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: how would you say that your story shows up in
Speaker 2: that series? It's the best way I can buy that question.
Speaker 3: Well, it's literally based on me, on my story because
Speaker 3: like they were supposed to call it mont Talk because
Speaker 3: like this happened at Montalk, like the monsters of the
Speaker 3: series and all like that happened to me, like on
Speaker 3: the Montalk chart. That's that's true, like not the way
Speaker 3: they put it, not like you know, the they water
Speaker 3: it down the sci fi it like, and I'm there
Speaker 3: to edicate those people because people think it's a sci
Speaker 3: fi and it's really not. You know like like some
Speaker 3: of my friends died of that. Some of my friends
Speaker 3: are stuck in jail for that. You know, like they
Speaker 3: tried to kill us, like you know, like nothing good
Speaker 3: like ever happened from that, like but torture and troubles.
Speaker 3: So like at some point, like they took like everything
Speaker 3: I had, you know, like my business by itself was
Speaker 3: probably worth ten million, like you know, like it was
Speaker 3: the phone was ringing like a pizza place, but instead
Speaker 3: of being like pizza at like fifteen twenty bucks, it
Speaker 3: was like parts at the fifteen hundred two thousand bucks,
Speaker 3: so like but the same kind of rhythm. So I
Speaker 3: was generating a lot of money. Like yeah, so like
Speaker 3: you know there's three point five million, so that's you know,
Speaker 3: like they took everything I had work hard for and
Speaker 3: like I tried to kill me. They eraised my memory,
Speaker 3: they so at some point and you know, like when
Speaker 3: you remember all the the stuff they made, it made
Speaker 3: me do and like I don't want, like no kids
Speaker 3: deserve to have this or like meet a guy like me,
Speaker 3: like from like a you know, like another kid, because
Speaker 3: like in those sra like they were making us like
Speaker 3: sacrifice other kids, like so testing us from a very
Speaker 3: young age, you know, Like so there's no one that
Speaker 3: and no one should should not know and not be
Speaker 3: aware of like what's happening. Like people have to know this,
Speaker 3: People have to watch their kids. Like like I'm talking
Speaker 3: people of authoritier that we're doing this, you know, like
Speaker 3: govindomn people like militaries, cops like you know, like teachers,
Speaker 3: like you know, like social services and also like yeah,
Speaker 3: like a mirror too, like give a good warning and
Speaker 3: like wake up call to people and like educate like
Speaker 3: you know, like the series Stranger Things, there's a I
Speaker 3: think a billion follower for it, Like it would be
Speaker 3: nice that all those billion followers know the real truth
Speaker 3: behind the store, you know, and like because it's like
Speaker 3: they're feeding this to kids through like cereals, through like pizza,
Speaker 3: through like toys and like I said, called skateboards cloud
Speaker 3: like name it like all based on Stranger Things. That's
Speaker 3: all based on my torture that I had. You know,
Speaker 3: that's that's insane, Like you know, like you look at
Speaker 3: this from my point of view, like you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know something.
Speaker 1: Basically what you're saying is that.
Speaker 2: And Stranger Things, the things that happened to you would
Speaker 2: be basically what happened to the character l right eleven
Speaker 2: or whatever they call it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like exactly the same, like you know from it,
Speaker 3: like the test that she does, like like deprivation and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, that's all what the deprivation in my
Speaker 3: training they did. That's like you know, and like the
Speaker 3: monsters and all that montalk that's that's my story from it,
Speaker 3: Like what happened like why that based clothes and like
Speaker 3: that's my personal story, like you know, like you know,
Speaker 3: like yeah, me and my friends and like you know,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I just want to put like things straight
Speaker 3: because like yeah, like it's kind of not cool, you know.
Speaker 3: More like like the only thing I got from this
Speaker 3: was like trouble, like attempts on my life, like you know,
Speaker 3: like yeah shit, hell from that, you know, I went
Speaker 3: to jail, like they tried to set me up. Like yeah,
Speaker 3: so at some point, like they're always picking on me
Speaker 3: and all, like so like.
Speaker 2: So what are some ways that recently you feel like
Speaker 2: you've been targeted?
Speaker 3: Everything I'm doing is being like censored or like shadow
Speaker 3: band like uh, or they're playing with numbers, they're erasing
Speaker 3: numbers of viewings and like blocking likes and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: What else, like anything I do in life is being
Speaker 3: like they're trying to keep me on low vibes all
Speaker 3: the time. It's like if I'm on I vibes, like
Speaker 3: I create, like you know, so.
Speaker 2: Any other things like biological attacks or like any kind
Speaker 2: of electromagnetic attacks or oysters technology or anything like.
Speaker 3: That, well, yeah, like for sure, like there's there's stuff
Speaker 3: that they're doing, like you know, like sometimes I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, like just off without knowing why. And I
Speaker 3: know that's probably like you know, like at a trio
Speaker 3: many it's just like from five g's and all like,
Speaker 3: but I'm already the old school one with like you know,
Speaker 3: like ultralof frequency sounds like that to like trigger me
Speaker 3: to like be on neutral take orders and do whatever.
Speaker 3: So like that was like through the six years of
Speaker 3: main training at school, we're doing this probably twice a week,
Speaker 3: just like getting us used forty and sometimes there wors
Speaker 3: in class and we're just so like, yeah, like that's
Speaker 3: stuff that they were doing too to yeah program us
Speaker 3: like brainwash us, like the slow part. Like, but nothing
Speaker 3: bad at school really happened, except like for like the
Speaker 3: first LSD group class and like often I was doing
Speaker 3: like uh, going to school on LSD for like those
Speaker 3: psychic trainings days. So but yeah, like no abuse or
Speaker 3: stuff like that, but like giving it as due to kids.
Speaker 3: I'm seven years old, like uh, it's kind of an abuse.
Speaker 3: So like you know, like.
Speaker 2: So in recent times, have they done anything like you know,
Speaker 2: come into your house when you're not home and move
Speaker 2: things around or different things?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I got pit bulls and
Speaker 3: like but like, uh, I'm not like the regular ones.
Speaker 3: I like, uh, they must be shorts drawing like who's
Speaker 3: coming to see me when they have to? Because like
Speaker 3: with what happened and all, like I was good till
Speaker 3: I didn't remember, Like now remember for me, it's easy
Speaker 3: to be on the same frequency, in the same vibe
Speaker 3: and reproduce stuff like that, so you know, like you yeah,
Speaker 3: they know like they so yeah, like that's why I'm
Speaker 3: able to do this, but like I'm not. Also, like
Speaker 3: I kept a lot of like it's too like uh
Speaker 3: in a kill switch so that like if they do
Speaker 3: something like they don't want that. So like that's why
Speaker 3: like I'm able, Like because like I'm closing five or
Speaker 3: six plays that they were using like they can't use
Speaker 3: those places anymore, like you know, like there's not many
Speaker 3: people that came out and said that, And I'm at
Speaker 3: the CIO asset like like it's a sworn statement and all,
Speaker 3: like you know, it's not something you can bullshit on.
Speaker 3: You take like big sentence like you know, it's not
Speaker 3: the injoy Blue that will do it, that can do that,
Speaker 3: you know, like because that's a major crime. Like a
Speaker 3: person I et like like Secrets Services staff or whatever,
Speaker 3: like is no, I'm me, I'm an asset that I
Speaker 3: get my credentials and all, like that's like that's all facts,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, you know, like my story is factual, Like
Speaker 3: I'm ready to be interrogated on the Live Detector anything
Speaker 3: that's in my book, so like on the Live show Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you do call your book the official deposition,
Speaker 2: And that's very clever. I think that being on podcasts
Speaker 2: and stuff such as this is going to be a
Speaker 2: pain in the acts for them because they have to decide, now,
Speaker 2: what are we going to do about that?
Speaker 1: Are we just going to let it go?
Speaker 2: But the thing about it is that it sounds like
Speaker 2: you've put them in such a precarious position where you
Speaker 2: know they can't do anything to you. That's too bad
Speaker 2: because you know this book has been circulated, right, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know it would be like fucking dumb to
Speaker 3: do this. So like like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So if there's anybody out there that is
Speaker 2: a lawyer that deals with this kind of stuff, you
Speaker 2: got to hit this guy up because that's what you need,
Speaker 2: maybe even a team of lawyers at this point to
Speaker 2: tackle this because.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of friends survivors too, Like it's
Speaker 3: not like, uh, like I'm the only one and like
Speaker 3: a lot of my friends are well known.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: So like we're no bullshit, Like we're really the the
Speaker 3: real kids that like we're like that inspired Stranger Things,
Speaker 3: Like that's us like from that project.
Speaker 2: Like so yeah, I feel like, Okay, so you say
Speaker 2: that all the time, and I feel like I just
Speaker 2: wanted the listener to understand that when you say that
Speaker 2: it's like Stranger Things, don't take it literally because I
Speaker 2: actually went and watched Stranger Things, and my listeners know.
Speaker 1: That I hate TV.
Speaker 2: I think it's one of the worst things that ever existed.
Speaker 2: So for me to go and watch it, it was
Speaker 2: because I was really trying to understand exactly what you
Speaker 2: were referencing. And so there is this direct parallel between
Speaker 2: the story that you have in your book and what
Speaker 2: goes on with the character eleven, which is played by
Speaker 2: Millie Bobby Brown. If you look at the actress Millie
Speaker 2: Bobby Brown in real life, you realize that she's a
Speaker 2: little bit troubled as well, and it tells you that
Speaker 2: perhaps even the actors that they've chosen to portray this
Speaker 2: story are a little bit mind control as well. Like
Speaker 2: if you could, if you if you know what to
Speaker 2: look for, like if you know the look for the
Speaker 2: vacancies their eyes and things like that that show you
Speaker 2: that there's been some level of alterations or creations of
Speaker 2: multiple personalities. You can tell it something is not quite
Speaker 2: right with some of them. And then later on when
Speaker 2: she became an adult, she was very promiskyous. I think
Speaker 2: she has the only fans or something that I could
Speaker 2: do wrong, because she displays symptoms of being you know,
Speaker 2: the the yeah, the beta programming, which is the sex
Speaker 2: yeah traumas.
Speaker 3: That's a basic of like the monarch programming. I think
Speaker 3: like everyone goes through it. It's it's like a tool
Speaker 3: of like trauma and also like a tool for later
Speaker 3: to be used like techniques to get information or like
Speaker 3: to get out of situations or like so like it's
Speaker 3: a tool day Like yeah, so that's two way tools
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They mostly do that sex programming on women. I think,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much do they do on men, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, yeah, that's a I think all the
Speaker 3: survivors have been through this, like most of them anyway.
Speaker 2: Right, So do you think that at any point you
Speaker 2: could be triggered to use your programming to do something
Speaker 2: on behalf of yeah organizations, that it would be out
Speaker 2: of your control?
Speaker 1: Do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm taking a lot of precautions and like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, specifically, well.
Speaker 3: True, like where I go to like you know, the
Speaker 3: situation I can like avoid and like phone calls I
Speaker 3: don't know the numbers or like you know, like stuff
Speaker 3: like that like to like yeah, like yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: to myself like and like I'm doing those shows. It's
Speaker 3: not something I like to do, but I some ask
Speaker 3: us like this information has to be out like yeah,
Speaker 3: like uh thinking, uh, those kids like that are like
Speaker 3: can avoid this, like so yeah, it's all worth it,
Speaker 3: like you know, like yeah, like a messages like you know,
Speaker 3: like there's limits of what we can't say, but like
Speaker 3: it's really to the extreme. It's like you know, like
Speaker 3: the extreme of even like when somebody is on it
Speaker 3: as did the extreme, Like they're at a bit like
Speaker 3: that too, like the Endlers. So like the program is extreme,
Speaker 3: you know, and like in my years, it was like
Speaker 3: that's a time like with the Church of said like
Speaker 3: Michael Aquino and like anton Ave also came like for
Speaker 3: like an event like the first kind of place of
Speaker 3: the OTS before it became the OTS. Uh. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: one of the places that we're bringing us and doing
Speaker 3: rituals there. And there were Obliss Tower there that were
Speaker 3: doing resurrection from the underworld rituals and there and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so many stuff, but like not everybody that went to
Speaker 3: SRRA and like but there's a lot that went through it,
Speaker 3: like depending on the fields that were like sending you
Speaker 3: because like there were recruiting people for like, uh to
Speaker 3: be police. They were recruiting people to be like politician
Speaker 3: doctors like you know, like kinds of like higher rank
Speaker 3: people to form them for like to be in possession later.
Speaker 2: So that's the very very dangerous and important part of
Speaker 2: everything that you've said, is that it's our doctors, our lawyers,
Speaker 2: our teachers, are policemen.
Speaker 1: Many of them go through.
Speaker 2: But a lot of them go through this kind of
Speaker 2: ritual abuse in programming and you wouldn't even know, because
Speaker 2: how do you know that somebody's there.
Speaker 3: They don't know exactly a lot of them don't even
Speaker 3: know they went through this because like they're so brainwashed
Speaker 3: and like just like refreshed like through little like a
Speaker 3: trigger to like I keep the hypnose like refresh all
Speaker 3: the time, and like like like we're talking CIA, like
Speaker 3: the techniques are like upgraded like from you know, like
Speaker 3: the technologies are everywhere from all the time, so like
Speaker 3: you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: So like for example, a doctor or someone anyone could
Speaker 2: come into his office as a patient and that person
Speaker 2: could be a handler unknown to them and just reset
Speaker 2: them or trigger them to do something, and you know,
Speaker 2: they would never know.
Speaker 1: It's actually that simple. It's like.
Speaker 2: What happened to you, It was unfortunate. There's not even
Speaker 2: words in the English language to describe how unfortunate, how sad,
Speaker 2: and how disturbing that is because you were just little kids.
Speaker 2: But people don't understand that this is still going on
Speaker 2: on large scales, and the recruitment that they're using is
Speaker 2: universities and things like that. I mean we talk about
Speaker 2: Stanford and Harvard and those kinds of schools like that.
Speaker 2: Thirty thousand.
Speaker 1: I've heard.
Speaker 2: People are recruited into the CIA and military program and stuff,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the times it's very innocent. It's
Speaker 2: just the same way that you were recruited where they
Speaker 2: were like, oh, well, you know you have a great life,
Speaker 2: will pay you.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a pattern to it, like you not the
Speaker 3: same amount now, the same tests or whatever. But people
Speaker 3: will recognize a pattern by reading my book if they
Speaker 3: like they're you know, similar things in their life or whatever,
Speaker 3: like if they doubt you know, like and like yeah,
Speaker 3: like that's one of the goals to educate them first,
Speaker 3: like to like who'se like in control and like like
Speaker 3: what's really going on? Like people like are being done down.
Speaker 3: But at some point, like they have to wake up
Speaker 3: and like because it's their kids that's going to be
Speaker 3: using those things, like or like I have to deals
Speaker 3: with those things later on. So yeah, like we have
Speaker 3: to stop the and like I think it's the right
Speaker 3: time to do this. I mean, yeah, I'm the proof
Speaker 3: like the first legal document. That's the first legal document
Speaker 3: on like month doc actually happened. Like my my statement,
Speaker 3: my book is like not a rise and all. It
Speaker 3: can be used anywhere and in a courthouse anywhere in
Speaker 3: the world. It's a legal document. So like people that
Speaker 3: advocse like and want to like show, hey.
Speaker 5: This guy, like that's a yah said, that's that's a story,
Speaker 5: Like that's a statement, like look at like this similar
Speaker 5: this similar, this similar, you know, like so like.
Speaker 3: It's it's a tool that people will be able to
Speaker 3: use in court, and like that was a goal and so.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I can totally understand your position that
Speaker 2: maybe you feel like you don't have anything else to
Speaker 2: lose because you know they've already tried to take everything
Speaker 2: from you anyways, so what else you know, what you know,
Speaker 2: do your best. What else can they do to you
Speaker 2: besides kill you at this point, and they're not preparing
Speaker 2: because they.
Speaker 3: That get's gonna bring is gonna be like not even
Speaker 3: fun yet. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you keep to yourself, how can somebody contact
Speaker 2: you if they want to talk to you about this stuff?
Speaker 3: Uh? True? Like my website like terror at montalk. I
Speaker 3: just started a website with so when you get acted,
Speaker 3: she helped me, like started this website. So it's terror
Speaker 3: at montalk dot com and yeah, like people can contact
Speaker 3: me there and like, yeah, I replied to them, like
Speaker 3: that's the best way because like Facebook and all, like
Speaker 3: they're I'm certain most of the time for like anything
Speaker 3: on Facebook, Like I think I'm a hundred times on
Speaker 3: Facebook jail and so that's three months at a time
Speaker 3: for a while.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean, I can't even remember how
Speaker 2: we ended up connecting on Facebook. I think you might
Speaker 2: have sent me a friend request or something and I
Speaker 2: just accepted it, but whatever, Like I never went through
Speaker 2: your page or anything, and I just saw something that
Speaker 2: you posted and I was like, you know what, I've
Speaker 2: been meaning to talk to this guy and find out
Speaker 2: who who he is and why he's on my Facebook page.
Speaker 2: An I think that's how we ended up connecting. So
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you did make that connection because I
Speaker 2: would I probably have just skimmed over in any case,
Speaker 2: because I have so many people that post stuff like
Speaker 2: yours and I don't know, you know, what they're all about,
Speaker 2: you know. So Chris, thanks for sharing your story on
Speaker 2: the Balance Authenticity podcasts And is there anything else you
Speaker 2: would like to say before we end?
Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, Like I invite people to check it, like
Speaker 3: into my story, into other survivors stories too, like you know,
Speaker 3: like I'm not by myself a survivor. There my story
Speaker 3: is really popular because of stranger things, but like some
Speaker 3: people probably added worse than me. And like I think
Speaker 3: like if people like start it skating themselves on what's
Speaker 3: really going on, what's really controlling them? And like, because
Speaker 3: I'm talking about five G also that like because we
Speaker 3: were the guinea pig for five G and like for
Speaker 3: like population control to at the same time, we were
Speaker 3: a study for that. So I'm trying to like wake
Speaker 3: up masses to like what's going on and like to
Speaker 3: take back control of our our lovely place that we
Speaker 3: live on and like mother Earth is like our best
Speaker 3: ally and that and like, yeah, we got to protect her,
Speaker 3: We got to protect life form by itself because like
Speaker 3: they're trying to sanitize everything, even life. So yeah, like
Speaker 3: it's a good wake up call. And you were in
Speaker 3: the book, and like for what's going on to kids,
Speaker 3: what those people are doing to kids, like the practice
Speaker 3: they do and all, and like so it's made the
Speaker 3: true like the hard way, like you know, I've I've
Speaker 3: went through all this and all, and like yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not there to like show off because I could like
Speaker 3: like I had an interesting life, you know, and I'm
Speaker 3: not saying all those you know, like it was like
Speaker 3: I had good shots in my life too, But like
Speaker 3: it's not a book of that. It's a book of
Speaker 3: you know, like facts and all. Like yeah, my gold
Speaker 3: is stet scape people. So Terror at montalk dot com.
Speaker 2: All right, Terror at montalk dot com, thanks for being
Speaker 2: on the Boundance Authenticity podcast.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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