Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here something just because my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 1: Jesus quice you better New York, Hello, get somebody out here.
Speaker 3: What quent on out there?
Speaker 1: It's thought of a bit of about sixty forty nine.
Speaker 1: I don't know easy out there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, greetings from Alaska. This is spread Royal Korean
Speaker 3: travel counts.
Speaker 2: However, from doing it, I'm going to share with you
Speaker 2: today the experience. So the two relatives that were with
Speaker 2: me on the river bank with d al hooting, we
Speaker 2: have man and camp. They flung some of the fire
Speaker 2: logs are out on the river that same year, less
Speaker 2: than a month later from that experience, we'll call the
Speaker 2: Penelope and Jasmine. That's not their real names, but close enough.
Speaker 2: So Penelope and Jasmine that were with me. They both
Speaker 2: were going gold prospecting, but up by Harris Creek, which
Speaker 2: is north of klik Andick. It's just above where the
Speaker 2: cutoff for the New Yecup River where they come together
Speaker 2: there they take off.
Speaker 3: They get up.
Speaker 2: There and there's this big gravel bar right there in
Speaker 2: the middle of the river, and it's got this huge
Speaker 2: tree stock. I don't know how long that tree style
Speaker 2: has been stuck on that particular gravel bar, but it
Speaker 2: breaks the channel up into two and it goes right
Speaker 2: around the gravel bar, and it's really deep channel. If
Speaker 2: you're facing north, deep channel, high bank to your left,
Speaker 2: tree dump in front of you on this gravel bar,
Speaker 2: lower bank to your right, with a lot of trees
Speaker 2: that wrap back around the bend. A little further down
Speaker 2: on the left is the mouth of the Nuyacut River
Speaker 2: in a spit, a little bit of a point from
Speaker 2: where it converges. They get there and they get set up.
Speaker 2: As they're getting set up, they heard weird noises, but
Speaker 2: they put nothing to it. Just they were in the
Speaker 2: deep woods. It's probably just some loose drawing or something
Speaker 2: they just never came across.
Speaker 3: So they do their thing.
Speaker 2: They set up their kent and they said it just
Speaker 2: behind that big tree style to block the breeze that
Speaker 2: comes down the river.
Speaker 3: They're set up and they're comfortable.
Speaker 2: They got a limited amount of firewood, but they only
Speaker 2: planned on camping on the gravel bar just that one night,
Speaker 2: and they were going to continue up to Harris Creek.
Speaker 2: So they're doing their thing. Jasmine's tired, goes asleep. Penelope
Speaker 2: stays up, turning the fire, sipping some cold ones and
Speaker 2: joining the beautiful scenery. In that time of year, it's
Speaker 2: roughly a twelve twelve light cycle, twelve hours of darkness,
Speaker 2: twelve hours a light. It hasn't gone into the wee
Speaker 2: hours of winter where we get three four hours of
Speaker 2: actual sun on the horizon, kinding of light. He's doing
Speaker 2: a thing, little fires popping and crackling away, and it
Speaker 2: keeps getting this eerie feeling like he's just something right,
Speaker 2: like he's being watched. So grabs a spotlight firearms still
Speaker 2: in its case inside the tent. They were on a
Speaker 2: say a bar they fell safe from any intrusion as
Speaker 2: they fell, it.
Speaker 3: Would be alright. So he just grabs a spotlight and it.
Speaker 2: Goes around the whole long gravel bar there, just beaming
Speaker 2: off into the trees, trying to figure out why he's
Speaker 2: getting this eerie feeling. And it gets to the front
Speaker 2: side of the stump facing northward Terrors Creek. There's a
Speaker 2: beam on it sees five sets of eyeshire, three smaller ones,
Speaker 2: two taller ones. That three smaller eyes shines were bright
Speaker 2: vivid white, and the two taller ones were a amber red,
Speaker 2: and immediately.
Speaker 3: He's shucked, what the hell is that?
Speaker 2: It was more curiosity for Penelope, because Penelope's just really
Speaker 2: trying to He's checking his glasses and he's just trying
Speaker 2: to put together what he's seeing. It seems through out
Speaker 2: of place to have that kind of thing happening. So
Speaker 2: he chalked it up initially that there must be someone
Speaker 2: some reflectors of some kind up there, and it's just
Speaker 2: in a weird pattern.
Speaker 3: I'll be able to make it out tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And looked it at that because he didn't move none
Speaker 2: of that stuff, and he still has this eerie feeling.
Speaker 2: He was able to compartmentalize eye shine into something that
Speaker 2: just isn't nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3: What's funny and subconscious that he knew something was off.
Speaker 2: I only laughed because Penelope gave me so much crap
Speaker 2: before this experience for him, so I'll leave it along
Speaker 2: and just tease him.
Speaker 3: What the name change?
Speaker 2: So Penelope starts beaming again, just keeps feeling like he's
Speaker 2: being watched beams again, and he's circling back the other
Speaker 2: direction this time. And when he swings the light over
Speaker 2: to where the New YORKUK meets the Nishgak River. There
Speaker 2: at that little point, he thought he saw what it
Speaker 2: looked like a big guy in the fur jacket jumped
Speaker 2: into the trees, but he heard nothing.
Speaker 3: He's still in a little bit of self denial.
Speaker 2: It's like things aren't making sense, but internally his mind
Speaker 2: is danger So he digs.
Speaker 3: The gun out. He said he felt like he was
Speaker 3: on autopilot. Everything was surreal.
Speaker 2: It sounded like a weird noise happening, but he couldn't
Speaker 2: really make it out, like a whining of a saw
Speaker 2: way off in the distance. That's the best thing he
Speaker 2: could equate it too. He said it probably wasn't a soft.
Speaker 2: He gets his rifle out, has it loaded, has it ready,
Speaker 2: stokes the fire a little bit, and continues drinking some
Speaker 2: cold beers. He continues, bought lighting and didn't say anything
Speaker 2: else of the eyes shine wasn't there, And so he
Speaker 2: calms down and he sits and he's just trying to
Speaker 2: piece together what he saw and if he actually saw it,
Speaker 2: because let's be honest, if we were out there and
Speaker 2: we saw five sets of eye showing, when's your first
Speaker 2: response be what the hell am I looking at? And
Speaker 2: did I really see that? So he's going over everything
Speaker 2: in his mind, he said. As he's doing that, he's
Speaker 2: facing north towards Harris Creek, with the fire right in
Speaker 2: front of him, a little offset spotlight next to him
Speaker 2: in the rifle, leaning up out of his leg.
Speaker 3: Because he was sitting a tree stuff.
Speaker 2: Out of the corner of his left eye, he sees
Speaker 2: this big thing moving on the river bank adjacent to
Speaker 2: a parallel and then moving up towards Harry's Creek. He
Speaker 2: frowze up, looking and he grabs the spotlight out of
Speaker 2: the corner of his eye and he beams and this
Speaker 2: scene gets beamed quartering away from him, so he didn't
Speaker 2: see its face, but he said it was Paul Man
Speaker 2: like long arms. It wasn't pitch black, but it was
Speaker 2: very dark in color. It was obviously not a man.
Speaker 2: It was way way too big to be some made,
Speaker 2: too big to be a suit to be moving that fluidly.
Speaker 2: He wasn't reactionary. It was more like, what the hell
Speaker 2: you do with that? So it just moves on into
Speaker 2: the darkness. He stopped beaming. It just heading the sand
Speaker 2: type of thing. He goes, no, this ain't right, so
Speaker 2: he wakes up Jasmine. Jasmine's not happy. His feathers were
Speaker 2: ruffled to be interrupted by foolishness until he came outside.
Speaker 3: Came out.
Speaker 2: After arguing back and forth, Panold was serious, Hey, get
Speaker 2: your butt out here, come see this stuff for yourself.
Speaker 3: I need a witness, basically, man.
Speaker 2: That's what boils down to, because he felt if he
Speaker 2: didn't get Jasmine to come see this stuff going on
Speaker 2: with him, no one would believe him.
Speaker 3: Hey, fair enough, that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: So finally coaxes Jasmine out of the tent and demand's
Speaker 2: Jasmine bringing his rifle. So Jasmine calling out his rifle
Speaker 2: and saying, man they're better be a bear ready to
Speaker 2: charge us for getting me out of this. Damn, I'm tired.
Speaker 2: Because they'd been on the river a couple of days.
Speaker 2: It takes a while to get way up there like that.
Speaker 2: So they're going back and forth, and he's explaining what
Speaker 2: he saw and Jasmine's dismissing it, and then I hope
Speaker 2: he's not.
Speaker 3: I know what frick I saw, Doude, Listen to what
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. He goes. Listen to that.
Speaker 2: Jasmin catches on that numbing, buzzing sound off in the distance,
Speaker 2: and as they're both literally listening to the air, not
Speaker 2: really looking in any particular direction from the direction to
Speaker 2: Harris Creek just north of them, they hear the loudest,
Speaker 2: blood curdling scream that they've ever heard, and it snapped
Speaker 2: them out of their little trance argument.
Speaker 3: Survival mode instantly kicks in, he said.
Speaker 2: Once Jasmine came out, he was standing and holding his rifle,
Speaker 2: and somehow his rifle ended up right near the edge
Speaker 2: of the water, because when they were startled, stuff kind
Speaker 2: of flung when they were jolted with that string. That's
Speaker 2: how loud it was, that's how forceful this scream was,
Speaker 2: and so he immediately grabs his rifle again. He's checking it,
Speaker 2: and they get the spotlight and they beam the direction
Speaker 2: that they heard the scream come from. They want to
Speaker 2: know what the hell's coming, so they beam. When they beam,
Speaker 2: they see three sets of eye shine, two bigger red
Speaker 2: eye shines, one smaller white set eye shine, and they
Speaker 2: kill the light real quick because this time there was movement,
Speaker 2: and so they killed it. And we didn't want to
Speaker 2: attract that whatever the hell it is, because they couldn't
Speaker 2: make it out. They could just make out the eye
Speaker 2: shine at that distance. They sit down the spotlight and
Speaker 2: they're talking amongst each other. Maybe we should drip down
Speaker 2: river a little waves anchor out and then became what
Speaker 2: we did earlier.
Speaker 3: That year with the au hooting stuff.
Speaker 2: They're discussing that because we didn't see anything at that point,
Speaker 2: and this time they actually see these things and they're
Speaker 2: not necessarily trying to hide.
Speaker 3: They did a little movement.
Speaker 2: They both recognized it's not right. So they start talking
Speaker 2: reliving what happened a few weeks before with me in
Speaker 2: the skiff when we had to ditch that camping spot
Speaker 2: with a big bonfire. And as they're discussing reliving that moment.
Speaker 2: They hear another scream comes direction, but it's a little closer,
Speaker 2: so immediately they snap out of their debate. They beam
Speaker 2: up towards Harris Creek again. Now there's the three they saw,
Speaker 2: the two bigger red eye shines, the smaller set of
Speaker 2: white eye shine. They saw two more red eye shines,
Speaker 2: even taller than the ones three or four other white
Speaker 2: eye shines. They started panicking because of the noise eye shins.
Speaker 2: So there's something living and there's something very loud over there.
Speaker 2: They already know it's a hairy man. They're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out how this is happening. So they decide they're
Speaker 2: gonna roll the punches. Nothing has happened. We'll stay here
Speaker 2: on this gravel bar. Now, it's only twenty feet to
Speaker 2: the taller river bank, probably thirty on this side. To
Speaker 2: the other side of the river bank, a deep channel
Speaker 2: between that and the high bank to their left, and
Speaker 2: that goes northwards Harris Creeks out of it. So they
Speaker 2: got their game plan. They're gonna forget about They don't
Speaker 2: want nothing to do with it. They're gonna forget about it.
Speaker 2: Nothing's happened. They're safe, and as they're discussing how they're safe,
Speaker 2: they are think this cadence of something dropping in the water,
Speaker 2: nothing big, just like little pebbles getting dropped in the water.
Speaker 2: It's happening at such a rate that they can't ignore it.
Speaker 2: At first, they figured it was a little fish job
Speaker 2: or something you've ever been on lake similar to that
Speaker 2: to sounds, So that starts happening, and then the cadence
Speaker 2: spees up a little bit and it is coming from
Speaker 2: behind them and from just off in front of them.
Speaker 2: They're thrown off by it. It's like all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: there's a new thing making noise. So they decide, we
Speaker 2: can't ignore this. Let's stoke up the fire. Jasmine wasn't
Speaker 2: feeling good genuinely said, hey, I'm gonna have my fire already,
Speaker 2: but I need to lay down so if anything starts
Speaker 2: coming in on us, let me know for sure.
Speaker 3: I will jump up and join.
Speaker 2: You and Penol if he wasn't happy with that, Hey,
Speaker 2: his look wasn't feeling good, See how go lay down it.
Speaker 2: Just as they finished that little conversation and Jasmine's crawling
Speaker 2: into the tap, a huge splash hits the channel between them.
Speaker 3: And the high make to.
Speaker 2: Their leaf coblooge and there's a broken top half of
Speaker 2: a birch tree, leaves still on it. They didn't hear
Speaker 2: this thing break and nothing. All of a sudden, it's
Speaker 2: just colute up. He was just raising watching this thing
Speaker 2: start to sink into the river and then get drive
Speaker 2: down by the current.
Speaker 3: It was just so random, a tree in the channel.
Speaker 3: So he's trying to figure out what he just saw.
Speaker 3: You know, it was a tree.
Speaker 2: He knew it was a birch tree, but he was
Speaker 2: trying to process the mechanics of what just happened.
Speaker 3: Why is this happening?
Speaker 2: The fear level goes right back up to where he
Speaker 2: can't not pay attention. So he resumes close in the
Speaker 2: front of the fire and he's got his firearm and
Speaker 2: he's telling Jasmin, who's communicating from the tent, pay oh fine,
Speaker 2: I'm just laying here ready to move. Just holler if
Speaker 2: you need me, And he goes, Dude, something threw a
Speaker 2: tree in the river next to us.
Speaker 3: Something's not right. So they talked back and forth and
Speaker 3: he realizes.
Speaker 2: That Jasmine is genuinely not feeling so he eases up
Speaker 2: on how aggressive he's being about help me.
Speaker 3: He realizes he's there and he'll help.
Speaker 2: So as they're having this little discussion, corner of his
Speaker 2: eye he sees the moment again. This thing is pacing
Speaker 2: back and forth, not quite getting parallel with them on
Speaker 2: the river bank, but just above them, pacing back and forth.
Speaker 2: And after it stopped pacing back and forth, it turned
Speaker 2: and looked directly at him that started doing this swaying
Speaker 2: thing as it lowered it and squatted itself down, bringing
Speaker 2: its elbows onto its knees, and then doing this sway
Speaker 2: thing and going back up to standing up. He said
Speaker 2: it was every bit of at least twelve foot tall.
Speaker 2: That was a rough guesstimate. He said it was very big,
Speaker 2: very hulky, real thick. So this thing squats down, stands
Speaker 2: back up, doing the same thing. Coming down the river bank,
Speaker 2: it does this little half step, does the same thing,
Speaker 2: staring right at him, squats all the way down, elbows
Speaker 2: on the knees kind of thing, and does the same
Speaker 2: thing and stands back up, and that little half step
Speaker 2: does it again. This whole time he's this measurment as
Speaker 2: of what the hell am I watching? As this thing
Speaker 2: is doing this When it would get to full height,
Speaker 2: he noticed its eyes would take off him and look
Speaker 2: behind him and then right back to him, like it
Speaker 2: was really fast. But he noticed it because it was
Speaker 2: every time it stood up, he was like, what the hell.
Speaker 2: He's trying to tell Jasmine what's happening, but he's stuttering
Speaker 2: because he's all struck by what's happening. But he knows
Speaker 2: it's looking at something behind him, and he doesn't like
Speaker 2: that thoughts, so he grabs the beam. He gets Jasmin
Speaker 2: to come out. Jasmine starts watching this thing do it.
Speaker 2: He's still on his hands and knees like a dog,
Speaker 2: looking out the tad door to his right. Now up
Speaker 2: at the river bank, at this sink doing this. Now,
Speaker 2: grant you, there's no beam on it. It's simple firelight
Speaker 2: and the ambient light. At that time of night, the
Speaker 2: woods still seemed pitch black. But they could see this
Speaker 2: thing doing this thing, and they could see its eyes
Speaker 2: because of the firelight. When it would look at him,
Speaker 2: it gave off a certain luminescence, not like a it's
Speaker 2: throw on high beams. It just a weird type of
Speaker 2: eye shine was coming off of it to where it
Speaker 2: was easy to see it was two lie Bys.
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 3: be right back after the these messages.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a direct eyeshine. I understand what he's getting.
Speaker 2: At Jasmine's Washington sing Penelope grabs the spotlight, spot lights it.
Speaker 2: It keeps doing his thing. It stopped doing this little
Speaker 2: half step thing and doing it. It was the standard
Speaker 2: of another place, stand up, do the same thing down,
Speaker 2: and it just kept doing that repetitively at its own pace.
Speaker 2: It's old cadence. And so he turns around and beams
Speaker 2: directly behind where he's noticed the scene keeps looking once
Speaker 2: it stands up all the way, he sees two sets
Speaker 2: of eye shine down river on the opposite bank looking
Speaker 2: back at him.
Speaker 3: So now concern goes way up. Now, what the hell
Speaker 3: do we do?
Speaker 2: Turns around because Jasmin's slapping his leg, because Jasmin's still
Speaker 2: on all fours looking over to his right. Stop at
Speaker 2: this thing doing this stuff, and he starts slapping Penelope's
Speaker 2: leg to get his attention because he couldn't speak. This
Speaker 2: thing had come further down parallel with them, just directly
Speaker 2: across the twenty foot distance or so, a little higher
Speaker 2: than now and was just so massive standing there and
Speaker 2: it's starting making this weird noise, showing its teeth and
Speaker 2: started rocking back and forth with that same noise down
Speaker 2: to his knees and then back up. And they were like,
Speaker 2: this thing is getting worked up. It's challenging us. Immediate concern.
Speaker 2: They decide they're going to take the fires. We're gonna
Speaker 2: chircle a round to the backside of that tree stuff
Speaker 2: and keep an eye in that direction in case it
Speaker 2: starts throwing stuff, which is a genuine concern. They did
Speaker 2: that directly as a result of what happened to me
Speaker 2: the year before when that one chucked a rock at me.
Speaker 3: So they got behind some kind of real cover instead
Speaker 3: of a simple nile on tech. They didn't know its intention.
Speaker 2: How could you this thing's making this weird noise up
Speaker 2: squatting down.
Speaker 3: You got two sets of eye shine behind you. You're
Speaker 3: sitting here freaked out because this thing is doing this.
Speaker 2: We get there's other ones around. I've been in similar situations.
Speaker 2: It is not something you want. I hear a lot
Speaker 2: of people say, I just want to see you one
Speaker 2: to confirm I know they're there, and fair enough if
Speaker 2: I get it human curiosity. You want to know, but
Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta be careful what the hell you're wishing for,
Speaker 2: because there's certain things the reality of what was going on.
Speaker 2: This thing's doing this crazy stuff. They're virtually surrounded, but
Speaker 2: yet they had a retreat, they had the skiff right there,
Speaker 2: they had guns. Nothing drastic has happened, but there's some
Speaker 2: ominous about what this sing is doing. So it goes
Speaker 2: on for a little bit, still doing a thing, and
Speaker 2: it always would turn and be directly facing them. But
Speaker 2: he did notice after a couple times a bit squatting
Speaker 2: down and whatever.
Speaker 3: Once they got behind the stump, it was looking and.
Speaker 2: Not where it was originally where he saw the two
Speaker 2: sets of eye shine behind them on the river bank.
Speaker 2: But the eye shine he had anticipated was moving. So
Speaker 2: when he beamed that direction where you saw it looking now,
Speaker 2: sure enough two sets of eyeshine, different heights. They were
Speaker 2: bobbing and moving because of the light or so he
Speaker 2: could really make out full figures.
Speaker 3: So he kills the light. They're behind the stop.
Speaker 2: The one is still on the bank on the opposite
Speaker 2: side of the stop, and they're watching it move around,
Speaker 2: and it's almost like it's searching the ground looking for something.
Speaker 2: They think, oh, it's gonna grab a rock. Jasmine's freaked
Speaker 2: out at the thought. He goes, we can't just let.
Speaker 3: It grab a rock. So he shoots a shot in
Speaker 3: the air.
Speaker 2: Right there's a shit out of Penelope because Penelope wasn't
Speaker 2: expecting it.
Speaker 3: The shot rings out.
Speaker 2: This scene takes off into the trees, doesn't look back,
Speaker 2: just gone and he didn't shoot at it. Penelope turns,
Speaker 2: beams the opposite side of the river bank and there's
Speaker 2: just some brush moving, no eye shine, okay, A pop
Speaker 2: a shot in the air. This scene cook off, so
Speaker 2: they beam up towards Harry's Creek again. No more Eyeshinl're like,
Speaker 2: we're good, good, okay, now we know what to do.
Speaker 3: Would pop a shot? They're gone.
Speaker 2: They felt confident in this. They calmed down. Some time pass,
Speaker 2: Jasmine gets back to sleep. Penelope decides, I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: one more cold on.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to sleep.
Speaker 2: Does this thing is laying there and he's got the
Speaker 2: rifle laid on him because you know what they just
Speaker 2: dealt with and saw. Things have gotten quiet and it's
Speaker 2: just doze and off. He didn't remember how much started
Speaker 2: to pass. But it was plenty dark by now. He
Speaker 2: heard something in the water, like a gurgling water sound
Speaker 2: like something moving through the water. So he's just laying
Speaker 2: there listening on is that something drifting down the river
Speaker 2: and water's just lapping over it, or it's something moving
Speaker 2: through the water. He found out soon enough. He felt
Speaker 2: and heard water dripping off of this thing as it
Speaker 2: came onto the gravel bar. So it crossed across the channel,
Speaker 2: is coming up the gravel bar, and it circles around
Speaker 2: the stump, and it circles around the whole tent hoffing
Speaker 2: and it was imitating a bear hut really well, but
Speaker 2: it was too loud. It was far too loud to
Speaker 2: actually be a bear huh. Because zero to Salmon River.
Speaker 2: He wanted to make sure right. So after this thing
Speaker 2: circled once and he heard it going back towards the stump,
Speaker 2: he figured, now it's a good time. I can get
Speaker 2: out behind it and get sight on this if it
Speaker 2: is a bear, and scare it off. So he unzips
Speaker 2: and then he hears the grunting stop whatever it was
Speaker 2: her the zipper, and he got quiet and he couldn't
Speaker 2: hear it moving anymore, and he goes, hey, we're armed
Speaker 2: in here. I will shoot you very loud. Scream echoes
Speaker 2: up and down the river, very loud, multiple octaves. Freak
Speaker 2: the hell out. Jasmin's up right now. Because this thing
Speaker 2: literally screened less than fifteen feet away from them. They
Speaker 2: felt it through everything. So he threatens to shoot. Scream happens.
Speaker 2: He's stuck. The zipper's only part of the way up
Speaker 2: and he ain't gonna freaking get out of there. In
Speaker 2: his mid's eye, he's picture in this thing, just snatching
Speaker 2: the tent like he would and rolled up brown paper
Speaker 2: bag and just smashing it against and rightfully, I would
Speaker 2: have thought the same thing.
Speaker 3: They're dead. Quiet.
Speaker 2: They hear the scene moving to get circles around one
Speaker 2: more time, grunting aloud of this time with the gurgle.
Speaker 2: He sounded like if you had a bad walk of pneumonia.
Speaker 2: Every time he breathed out, it had that sound to it.
Speaker 2: And he said it was unnerving because you could tell
Speaker 2: it was massive. The scene was massive, felt the footsteps
Speaker 2: in the ground. It circled the second time and it
Speaker 2: stopped behind the tree stump, and they heard the tree
Speaker 2: stump moving rolling in the gravel, and they could feel
Speaker 2: it being rocked and pushed because of the weight of it.
Speaker 3: Bult thump in the ground.
Speaker 2: They're not that far from this thing, so they're like,
Speaker 2: is this thing gonna smash us? With the tree stopped,
Speaker 2: and Penelope said, shrew this, zips up the tent and
Speaker 2: just shoots out the door the opposite direction of this thing.
Speaker 2: He's just shooting high out the doors. Yea, let's a
Speaker 2: bunch a round fly.
Speaker 3: Had their ten round box mag or whatever.
Speaker 2: There's just all sorts of sound that happens on both
Speaker 2: sides of the river at this point.
Speaker 3: So they're both like, holy shit. So they get out, they.
Speaker 2: Crawl out, they beam around, and they don't see nothing
Speaker 2: that happening. They felt eerie enough that they took what
Speaker 2: they could. They left the tip there. They got in
Speaker 2: the skiff and they use the battery life left on
Speaker 2: that spotlight to putter their butts and stay in the
Speaker 2: channel to get back down to Kaliganik. And they camped
Speaker 2: out on the landing at Kaliganik there. This is not
Speaker 2: unique to me, it's not unique to them. And Nick,
Speaker 2: like Chris the photographer with several fishing game warns, I
Speaker 2: wish they would come board and speak, because I'm sure
Speaker 2: they've seen just as much shit, if not more than me.
Speaker 2: A little something about what I exactly know. I am
Speaker 2: no expert, I am not a researcher. I am simply
Speaker 2: a First Nation's Alaska native that has had these encounters
Speaker 2: and experience and never talked about it until just the
Speaker 2: last couple of years. In our culture, we don't share,
Speaker 2: we don't spread it out. It stays in our community.
Speaker 2: It's part of our oral history. When we're speaking on
Speaker 2: these things so nonchalantly, it's because that's how it is
Speaker 2: out there in the bush. These things happen periodically. You'll
Speaker 2: have a hairy man's scream at you, you'll have something
Speaker 2: thrown at you as you're walking down at the mountain trail.
Speaker 2: It happens all the time, but it's never talked about,
Speaker 2: especially in our culture.
Speaker 3: Now there's people that you know.
Speaker 2: Have had Alaskan experiences that have shared elsewhere. I'm from Alaska,
Speaker 2: I've shared it elsewhere, but a lot of First Nations don't,
Speaker 2: and that's because it's not in our culture. We don't
Speaker 2: go squatching. As a matter of fact, that one I
Speaker 2: saw by the Mannaicuota trail. It made a wooden knock
Speaker 2: sounds with its mouth. It didn't bang two sticks together.
Speaker 2: It made like a tongue pop, and it sounded like
Speaker 2: two Louisville slungers hitting each other.
Speaker 3: So you do with that? I don't know by no
Speaker 3: means of my an expert.
Speaker 2: I've just had circumstances happen from the places I bear,
Speaker 2: and that give me a different outlook on it, because
Speaker 2: for us, it's not a matter of proving anything.
Speaker 3: There's nothing to be proven.
Speaker 2: It is just as relevant as most bearer wolverine cariboo.
Speaker 3: It is just as relevant.
Speaker 2: It's the outside world that doesn't accept it. Doesn't accept
Speaker 2: it because some of them with the fancy piece of
Speaker 2: paper didn't say And that's on them. I can't change that.
Speaker 2: They can sit there in their Ivy League school that's
Speaker 2: less than two hundred years old and try to dictate
Speaker 2: something that has been passed down orally for tens of
Speaker 2: thousands of years through the first nations.
Speaker 3: They dismiss it. Oh, it's there of a mythos, it's
Speaker 3: in mythology, it's this, that's that.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, until you have experienced it. A lot
Speaker 2: of non believers, they won't believe it understandable. But understand,
Speaker 2: when I'm speaking of these things, it's not that I
Speaker 2: live in some fairy tale land in my head or
Speaker 2: some bullshit like that. I'm very saying these things are
Speaker 2: happening constantly in a remote village.
Speaker 3: And when I say constant.
Speaker 2: Land, I mean every time someone goes outside, I'm saying
Speaker 2: it happens with such relative frequency.
Speaker 3: Why report it? You leave the village, something screams at you,
Speaker 3: you make it home.
Speaker 2: That's daily light, not literally every day, but that's part
Speaker 2: of lights and the remote Alaska weird stuff all the time.
Speaker 3: You don't how many UFOs.
Speaker 2: As sightings have been shared with me from just between
Speaker 2: new Studio Hawk and Colligan. It literally, I already have
Speaker 2: several handfuls of just those encounters of seeing a UFO
Speaker 2: in these very remote places in all Aska. There's so
Speaker 2: much going on that we have no clue by no means. Understand.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sound like I'm some authoritative voice
Speaker 2: and I know all this.
Speaker 3: What I'm sharing is what I know, and I don't
Speaker 3: know squad. I'm not an expert.
Speaker 2: Seeing their tracks several types of scenes what they would
Speaker 2: call structures, seeing these things, Ronnie doing all sorts of
Speaker 2: different various things.
Speaker 3: But it's by default, it's not unique to me. There's
Speaker 3: so many people in Kalignik New Studio.
Speaker 2: Hawk back homing, dilling here, several lodges in through the
Speaker 2: wood chick Chicks, state parks.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't get spoken about. So no one knows.
Speaker 2: That this stuff is going on. So when you hear
Speaker 2: someone like me just spouting so nonchalantly about it, it could
Speaker 2: give you the wrong idea and maybe I know something
Speaker 2: others don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know shit.
Speaker 2: What I do know is what I've experienced, and what
Speaker 2: I've experienced has been aggression, cunning. The level of cunning
Speaker 2: these things have is unreal. The Macha baby to lure
Speaker 2: someone out. So what I'm getting at is I'm not
Speaker 2: an expert on anything. I am only sharing what I've
Speaker 2: dealt with and what others are sharing with me. If
Speaker 2: I had come across like I'm some expert on something,
Speaker 2: I apologize. I'm just sharing, hearing what I know, and honestly,
Speaker 2: in the big scheme of things, I don't know squad,
Speaker 2: I could tell you they shake stuff, they break stuff,
Speaker 2: and they throw stuff. Ooh, that's not a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 2: You understand, And I'm only knocked on about it because
Speaker 2: I've accepted it. I've seen it. It's just part of
Speaker 2: what's going on out there. It's what it is. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you all listening, listening to me rant about exactly what.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I wanted to share with you today.
Speaker 2: Benson and Terry started but what was supposed to be
Speaker 2: an adventure about twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: They were basically going to do some fly fishing for trout.
Speaker 2: They wanted some brookies and some other stuff. They made
Speaker 2: their plans to get an Alaskan adventure. They both used
Speaker 2: to live in Anchorage. Now I believe one is in
Speaker 2: New Mexico and the other ones in Arizona. They didn't
Speaker 2: move because of this. They moved for jobs and family
Speaker 2: after this situation, so keep that in mind. It started off,
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be a week long adventure. They
Speaker 2: got dropped off on the cusca Quim had firearms. One
Speaker 2: had a lever action forty five to seventy, the other
Speaker 2: twelve gage. They had a forty four magnum pistol. From
Speaker 2: what Benson shared with me, it started off their first day.
Speaker 3: They were so excited. It was early fall. There was
Speaker 3: still some.
Speaker 2: Mosquitos, not a whole lot, so they were basically finding
Speaker 2: ways of combating the mosquitos. They didn't bring any bug
Speaker 2: dope or anything, so they had biting flies and mosquitos
Speaker 2: to deal with. They were going along just mitigating the train,
Speaker 2: trying to figure out the best possible movements. So they
Speaker 2: start their journey and they're going down this creek bed
Speaker 2: the initial point of it. From what Benson was saying,
Speaker 2: there was birds and other wildlife signed for the first
Speaker 2: day and a half. Now, they were not in a rush.
Speaker 2: They were going to take their week, actually as ten days,
Speaker 2: but it ended up being a week. But they're going
Speaker 2: to take their ten days and make the most of it,
Speaker 2: do their things, see Alaska, get some adventure in. As
Speaker 2: the second day started, they got up to absolutely no
Speaker 2: sound whatsoever. It was dead quiet, and they both got
Speaker 2: the hebgb's and felt like they were being watched. Now
Speaker 2: Terry had gone to basically look around. Benson told him,
Speaker 2: don't go too far, jokingly says, if you see anything interesting,
Speaker 2: just let me know. Little did he know what was
Speaker 2: about to happen, because Terry walks off and he's gone
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. He makes his way through brush and stuff,
Speaker 2: and it starts to open up into some tundra, probably
Speaker 2: seventy five yards away from this creek. Terry said that
Speaker 2: as soon as he busts through the shrubs into where
Speaker 2: it opens up one hundred and twenty yards in front
Speaker 2: of him, this figure was standing looking at him.
Speaker 3: Dumbfounded.
Speaker 2: He said he couldn't make out the full expression on
Speaker 2: a creature's face because it was silhouetted. The way the
Speaker 2: sun was coming up, there was no clear definition of
Speaker 2: facial features other than he could tell it was looking
Speaker 2: right up at him and just tilted its head to
Speaker 2: the side. What am I looking at? While he's tilting
Speaker 2: his head? What the hell am I looking at?
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more sasquatchy out to see. We'll
Speaker 3: be right back after these messages, so Terry said.
Speaker 2: He cuts back, follows his back trail, gets back over there,
Speaker 2: yells for Benson. Benson is tidying up camp and stuff,
Speaker 2: trying to be bear safe, putting away their breakfast stuff
Speaker 2: and their clean utensils. Terry comes pale as ghost saying, Hey,
Speaker 2: there's a big dude over there. Let's go talk to him.
Speaker 2: So at this point, Terry didn't relate its size to
Speaker 2: anything other than a man, because where it's in open tundra,
Speaker 2: there's nothing to assess its height. There was no little
Speaker 2: trees or shrubs near it for him to get a
Speaker 2: good guests mian on height. He just assumed it was
Speaker 2: a big dude, assumed he was in furs. Now, when
Speaker 2: Benson and Terry come back through the same path, they
Speaker 2: get into the opening and there's nothing there, right, So
Speaker 2: Terry's like, I'm telling you it was standing over here.
Speaker 3: So he goes show me. And so while Benson stood.
Speaker 2: There, we're looking around, Terry started walking over that direction.
Speaker 2: It started dawning on him how far away it was,
Speaker 2: started to mentally assess its height. Now, he doesn't make
Speaker 2: it all the way out to a spot where he's
Speaker 2: seen this thing standing Once he starts realizing, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: this thing was much bigger than I thought. He stopped
Speaker 2: going forward and turns around and comes back, meets up
Speaker 2: with Benson's laughing at him. What's going on here? What
Speaker 2: did you see? Was it a bear just standing up
Speaker 2: looking at you? Terry, not wanting to be made fun of,
Speaker 2: was like, probably That's probably what it was with the
Speaker 2: light and everything, which it was clear that morning, but
Speaker 2: he just went along with it. Must have been a
Speaker 2: bear stood up, looked at me, freaked me out. Whatever,
Speaker 2: so he let it go. They continue on about their day.
Speaker 2: They continue hiking that creek. As they're hiking along that creek,
Speaker 2: they go from east to west. That's where they camp
Speaker 2: for their third night. Now, from what Terry said, as
Speaker 2: they were getting ready to put camp up, he kept
Speaker 2: feeling like he was being watched, and he kept turning
Speaker 2: his back. It ended up to where he got so
Speaker 2: creeped out. He moved the tint as close to the
Speaker 2: water's edge as possible while Benson was doing other stuff.
Speaker 2: Benson was setting up a little cooking area and so
Speaker 2: he wasn't really paying attention to what Terry was doing.
Speaker 2: And then I guess they got into a little bit
Speaker 2: of an argument once Benson saw how close to the
Speaker 2: water that he was putting these tints up. Hey, we
Speaker 2: can't be that close. If the big rain happens overnight,
Speaker 2: we could get potentially flooded out or whatever, and we
Speaker 2: could lose gear and YadA. So Terry's look, I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm being watched, I'm getting the creeps over here
Speaker 2: by this brush. Benson assures him, Hey, look, it's probably
Speaker 2: just that bear being curious. It's already seen us. It's
Speaker 2: probably just young and following us around. If it comes
Speaker 2: in on us, then we'll take care of it. If not,
Speaker 2: then we'll leave it be. Terry agreed, goes on with
Speaker 2: what he was doing, changes the area of which he
Speaker 2: set up the tent. What he ended up doing was
Speaker 2: taking some of his fishing line, taking empty cans, and
Speaker 2: making an early alarm system, early warning system, a little
Speaker 2: trip wire, if you will, with cans attached to the
Speaker 2: end of it. He had it laid out so whatever
Speaker 2: tripped on this in coming out of the brush, it
Speaker 2: would jingle cans right next to the tent. And so
Speaker 2: while Benson was cooking, Terry was setting up his little
Speaker 2: early warning system, and Benson gave him, shit, he's looked
Speaker 2: that barrier gonna come in on us. We'll wash the
Speaker 2: food trays. Will be good anyway. So that night they're
Speaker 2: sitting around the campfire. They're both pretty tired and beat
Speaker 2: up and bug bitten. They want to call it. So,
Speaker 2: just as it was starting to get dark, probably between
Speaker 2: eleven and midnight, they decide they're going to crawl into
Speaker 2: the tent, and no sooner than the tent was zipped,
Speaker 2: they heard the cans jingle, and so immediately Terry is
Speaker 2: jumping up to unzip and stuff, and Benson says, hey,
Speaker 2: we just got in the tent. We probably bumped it
Speaker 2: and jingled the cans. Calmed down, Terry calmed down, and
Speaker 2: from what Terry said, he had an ominous feeling. He
Speaker 2: couldn't explain it. He didn't know why, but he kept
Speaker 2: getting this ominous feeling. Now, of the two, Terry smoked.
Speaker 2: So a little bit later, Terry makes the excuse, I'm
Speaker 2: going to step out and smoke a cigarette and make
Speaker 2: sure that fire is dying down or whatever. And Benson
Speaker 2: was already half asleep and said all right. So Terry
Speaker 2: gets outside. He's on high alert. He's sitting there trying
Speaker 2: to figure out what made the cans jingle because they
Speaker 2: didn't bump the tent enough, and the way he had
Speaker 2: it set up, he knew that them getting in the
Speaker 2: tent wasn't going to jingle the.
Speaker 3: Cans, and so he was real curious.
Speaker 2: So he's sitting there watching the tree line behind him
Speaker 2: is the little creek and it's running. It's making a
Speaker 2: little bit of noise, not a whole lot. It wasn't
Speaker 2: very fast moving. And so he said, as he was
Speaker 2: watching the trees in front of him in the brush,
Speaker 2: he was looking at every shadow, studying it real hard.
Speaker 2: He had the forty four magnum, his rifle was right
Speaker 2: inside the tent, but and he felt secure in the moment.
Speaker 3: He sat on the little.
Speaker 2: Log and was smoking a cigarette, just studying real hard.
Speaker 2: He realized he was hearing the weird noise and it
Speaker 2: was coming from in the water. Sounded like someone moving
Speaker 2: through the water.
Speaker 3: So he's this.
Speaker 2: English backtracking us and figured, I'm going to get to
Speaker 2: drop on this bear because the noise was coming from
Speaker 2: the opposite side of the tent from what he said.
Speaker 2: So he keeps around to the side and jumps out,
Speaker 2: going ah ah ah, just yelling, trying to scare of
Speaker 2: what he thought was going to be a bear off, right,
Speaker 2: just give it a good startle and run it off.
Speaker 2: That's not what was in the water. So this thing
Speaker 2: was standing about midway in the creek, just staring at
Speaker 2: him while he's yelling, and stuff didn't flinch. Didn't make
Speaker 2: a move, wasn't intimidated in the least bit. He said
Speaker 2: it was about eight and a half foot tall, from
Speaker 2: the best he could guess because it was in the
Speaker 2: water and he wasn't sure exactly how deep the water
Speaker 2: was there eight eight and a half foot out of
Speaker 2: the water. As he's sitting there dumbfounded, Benson heard him
Speaker 2: scream and holler he's making a fuss because Benson, a
Speaker 2: little older than Terry, didn't want to be dealing with
Speaker 2: Terry and Shenanigans are bullshit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's yeah, cussing him fussing. And as Benson starts moving
Speaker 2: in the tent, basically coming out of the tent, this
Speaker 2: thing hears that, and when Benson comes out, it turns
Speaker 2: around and walks away from them. Benson was only able
Speaker 2: to see the back end of this thing going up
Speaker 2: over the bank into the brush. From what Benson said,
Speaker 2: he did not see what Terry did at that moment.
Speaker 2: All he saw was something dark going into the brush line.
Speaker 3: Fair enough.
Speaker 2: He didn't full on see it. He didn't full on
Speaker 2: see it. Terry's telling him what he saw. He said,
Speaker 2: this thing is huge, at least eight eight and a
Speaker 2: half foot tall standing in the water there. I yelled
Speaker 2: at it. It did nothing. You came out and tell
Speaker 2: them the whole thing. Benson, his curiosity's peaked. He doesn't
Speaker 2: fully believe that's what Terry saw. He believes Terry saw something.
Speaker 2: He's just not sure if he was misidentifying young juvenile
Speaker 2: bears standing up. That's what Benson had stuck in his head.
Speaker 2: He freely admitted that. He goes I had a bear.
Speaker 3: Stuck in my head.
Speaker 2: As he's basically chastising Terry a little bit, he tells him,
Speaker 2: next time you see that, Barry, shoot that thing. It's
Speaker 2: obviously stalking us. It's a good enough reaze, We'll shoot it.
Speaker 2: We'll report it whatever. Terry's okay. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: do that, but I will. As they try to go
Speaker 2: back to sleep, which was very difficult for Terry, Benson
Speaker 2: wasn't as startled as Terry, so Benson said he went
Speaker 2: right to sleep. He wasn't quite in shape for hiking
Speaker 2: or anything like that, and so he decided I'll crash out.
Speaker 2: In all honesty, from what Benson said, he was exhausted
Speaker 2: fighting off bugs, trumpling through the water. It was taking
Speaker 2: a toll on him. He wasn't used to backpacking around
Speaker 2: with a bunch of gear, and so I was catching
Speaker 2: up with them, and so Terry. Once he did fall
Speaker 2: back asleep, he woke up hours later with those cans rattling,
Speaker 2: and he jumps up. He's in a panic. He comes
Speaker 2: stumbling out of the tent. He's trying to drag his
Speaker 2: rifle behind him, and Benson accidentally tripped over his trip
Speaker 2: line and spilled breakfast. Benson was not happy. He was
Speaker 2: Cussingtery out, so they had a little bit of an argument.
Speaker 2: Benson had to remake breakfast and wasn't happy about that.
Speaker 3: It was a bad start to their morning.
Speaker 2: So as they are getting what is left of their
Speaker 2: breakfast done, they start hearing weird noises off in the distance,
Speaker 2: way off in the distance.
Speaker 3: They're like, wow, that's weird. They couldn't make it out.
Speaker 2: They were suspecting maybe a coyote, but there was a
Speaker 2: lower tone to it they couldn't quite place. So they
Speaker 2: just left it at that because it was far enough
Speaker 2: away it wasn't of immediate concern. Now, when they continued hiking,
Speaker 2: they're going along and they start coming across these strange
Speaker 2: tracks that they could see across the creek, and the
Speaker 2: particular part they were on they just got over this
Speaker 2: tight bend. They could see impressions in the gravelly dirt
Speaker 2: right out of a cutbank, and they're like, ah, it
Speaker 2: looks like that bear was walking this way. So they
Speaker 2: didn't go and examine the tracks, but they were large.
Speaker 2: Benson was going with bear, and Terry wasn't going to
Speaker 2: argue it because he knows what he saw and he
Speaker 2: figured the way this thing was showing itself from what
Speaker 2: Terry said, Benson would eventually see it. They continued on
Speaker 2: the beginning of day four is when they saw the
Speaker 2: tracks on the creek bank across from them. So come
Speaker 2: up to an uneventful, very quiet, they said, for day
Speaker 2: five and six, until going towards the end of day six.
Speaker 2: Now they had made some ground, they retired. They said
Speaker 2: they got two good nights of really good sleep, just
Speaker 2: from the hiking that they were doing, very terrain, sandy,
Speaker 2: muddy to rocky, pebbly, cobblestone, through brush sometimes when they
Speaker 2: had to find a way around the creek because it
Speaker 2: just wasn't conducive for hiking through. So just as they
Speaker 2: were setting up camp. On day six, Benson had to
Speaker 2: go and check.
Speaker 3: Some things out.
Speaker 2: He had been hearing a weird whistle click sound, and
Speaker 2: they said it seemed like it was directed at me.
Speaker 2: He kept thinking Terry was trying to get his attention,
Speaker 2: but Terry was right in front of him when he's
Speaker 2: hearing this, and the noise was coming from Benson's left,
Speaker 2: So finally.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go check out over here real quick whatever.
Speaker 2: And Terry sat down and lit a cigarette because they
Speaker 2: were in the middle of popping the tent up and
Speaker 2: they're taking a quick break. So as Terry smoking a cigarette,
Speaker 2: Benson walks off to his left, which would be approximately
Speaker 2: due south. Now, as he's walking due south, he gets
Speaker 2: maybe fifty feet from what he was saying, away from
Speaker 2: where Terry was sitting, and Terry could see him clearly.
Speaker 3: He hadn't gone into the trees yet.
Speaker 2: Benson hears that weird chatter kind of sound like click popping,
Speaker 2: a little bit of a whistle, the slightest whistle, and
Speaker 2: it was really intriguing and he doesn't know why, but
Speaker 2: it really struck him and caught his attention, and he
Speaker 2: was so curious about it, he said, reflecting back on it.
Speaker 2: He felt like he was almost hypnotized and chanted by
Speaker 2: this whistle sound. It was very melodic. It had a
Speaker 2: certain melody to it that was a bit soothing from
Speaker 2: what Benson was saying. So he turns and yells back
Speaker 2: at Terry, Hey, I'm going to head off this way
Speaker 2: just a little ways. If i'm not back in two minutes,
Speaker 2: come looking for me. Terry's I'll come with you now.
Speaker 2: So Terry puts out his cigarette, grabs this forty five
Speaker 2: seventy and starts following Benson. Now, Benson, according to what
Speaker 2: Terry said, was maybe thirty five forty feet in front
Speaker 2: of him, clearly visible. They were approaching the tree line,
Speaker 2: and as they got closer to the tree line, Terry said,
Speaker 2: Benson stopped, got down on his knees and had his
Speaker 2: head turned and was staring into the brush. Terry was
Speaker 2: confused by it. He thought maybe his friend was having
Speaker 2: some medical issue or something, because he said he trotted up,
Speaker 2: set his rifle down and was looking at him, and
Speaker 2: Benson looked like he was almost in a trance staring.
Speaker 2: It was slack jawed, mouthed open, just staring into the brush.
Speaker 2: Terry nudges him with his knee. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: snap out of it. Snap out of it. Shakes him
Speaker 2: a little bit, and Benson looks at him like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell? And from what Benson said,
Speaker 2: when he was approaching the brush, everything went blank. He
Speaker 2: doesn't know what was going on for a brief couple
Speaker 2: moments until Terry was nudging him, and then he realized
Speaker 2: he was on.
Speaker 3: His knees and was staring into the brush. So he
Speaker 3: stands up. That was weird.
Speaker 2: They both got the ebgbis, so they decided, hey, let's
Speaker 2: not go into the brush. So let's just get back
Speaker 2: over here to camp. I'm going to set up my
Speaker 2: string cans and all that stuff again. We'll get our
Speaker 2: sleep and continue on. They couldn't shake the creepy feeling.
Speaker 2: From what Terry said, he is usually a calm, collected guy,
Speaker 2: and Benson even more. It takes a lot to get
Speaker 2: their pulse rate up. But from that point they were
Speaker 2: high tension. They were arguing amongst each other for nothing
Speaker 2: until they caught onto it and realized, hey, we're hyper sensitive.
Speaker 2: Let's not take it out on each other. We're here
Speaker 2: in this together. As they're sitting there by their campfire.
Speaker 2: They made a habit not staring at the campfire, but
Speaker 2: letting it be in their peripheral so they could watch
Speaker 2: the surroundings. They said it was really hard to even
Speaker 2: attempt to go into the tent because it kept hearing
Speaker 2: movement just out of eyesight, and it sounded like big movement,
Speaker 2: but they could not pinpoint what it was. Benson, because
Speaker 2: he hadn't really seen anything yet, reverted back to saying
Speaker 2: that bear must be back, so let's be ready. Let's
Speaker 2: just put it down. It hasn't lost interest in us,
Speaker 2: so it's fixated on us. We need to put this
Speaker 2: bear down. Terry knew it wasn't a bear. He had
Speaker 2: seen it twice. Said I don't think that's a good
Speaker 2: idea that we'll go shooting at this thing unless we
Speaker 2: need to. Terry reiterates, Hey, Bency, I know you think
Speaker 2: it's a bear, but look this is what I saw.
Speaker 2: First time I saw it was on two legs. Second
Speaker 2: time I saw it was on two legs. It walked
Speaker 2: away on two legs. It swayed its arms like a man.
Speaker 2: It was shaped like a man, a big man. Benson
Speaker 2: starts to realize that Terry's not just trying to mess
Speaker 2: with them. As he realizes that Terry's really not trying
Speaker 2: to pull his leg about this whole man thing, he
Speaker 2: starts asking the questions about his features and this and that,
Speaker 2: and again there wasn't much to add other than it
Speaker 2: was shaped like a man, moved like a man, was
Speaker 2: on two feet and very large.
Speaker 3: They hadn't seen any details.
Speaker 2: They had brought one flashlight with them because that time
Speaker 2: of year, it wasn't a whole lot of darkness, just
Speaker 2: a handful of hours at night, and they were sleeping
Speaker 2: during that time, and they only brought one because it's
Speaker 2: just what all they needed in their own minds at
Speaker 2: the time. So they get the flashlight out because this
Speaker 2: getting on into dark and they're still highly uncomfortable. They
Speaker 2: can't even fathom going to lay down yet. Benson said
Speaker 2: something struck and funny. As he was sitting there facing
Speaker 2: Terry to stand up and look behind you. Benson happened
Speaker 2: to have that flashlight. So he stands up and turns
Speaker 2: on the flashlight, beaming in the same general direction that
Speaker 2: he initially started walking. That fell in that weird trance.
Speaker 2: Right as soon as he turned on the flashlight, he
Speaker 2: saw this thing.
Speaker 3: He said. It had ash and gray skin. It was
Speaker 3: squatted down.
Speaker 2: It was just about twenty feet outside of camp, where
Speaker 2: the firelight wasn't illuminating it at all.
Speaker 3: Bright red eyeshine. He said.
Speaker 2: His face was real, real wrinkly, a lot of fine wrinkles.
Speaker 2: I've seen the same thing myself. They couldn't tell what
Speaker 2: color the eyes were because they were reflecting eyeshine, right
Speaker 2: red eyeshine.
Speaker 3: They said.
Speaker 2: The knees looked like they had some kind of calluses
Speaker 2: on them. The way it was squatted down, and its
Speaker 2: hands were humungous because it put up one hand trying
Speaker 2: to block the light a little bit, and started showing
Speaker 2: its teeth. They said, big block teeth, like a horse.
Speaker 2: The jaw looked really wide compared to the top of
Speaker 2: the head. The eyes were pretty wide set.
Speaker 3: They said.
Speaker 2: It almost looked like someone wearing a parka with a
Speaker 2: rough around it, because it looked like a round it
Speaker 2: head with a hair rough around, like they were wearing
Speaker 2: a hood with a fur rough around it. Once he
Speaker 2: beamed it and it put his hand up, showed us
Speaker 2: teeth a little bit. It stood up, they said. When
Speaker 2: it stood up, all of its massiveness was shown in
Speaker 2: that moment, Terry was immediately on his feet, had his
Speaker 2: rifle in his hand and was pointing at this thing.
Speaker 2: And as soon as he leveled his rifle at this
Speaker 2: saying it screamed. Benson fell down from the scream startled
Speaker 2: the shit out him because he was in shock. Once
Speaker 2: he fell, there was no longer a flashlight on it.
Speaker 2: As Terry went to shoot, Terry fires a shot off.
Speaker 2: The screaming was still going on. It was all commotion.
Speaker 2: So there's screaming, a gunshot fires off. Benson hits the ground,
Speaker 2: scrambling to pick up the flashlight beams back over there again,
Speaker 2: and Terry standing next to him at this point saying,
Speaker 2: holy sh I told you, and Bence's like, calmed down.
Speaker 3: I seen it.
Speaker 2: Vince has said he thought he was going to have
Speaker 2: a heart attack. He was struggling to calm himself down
Speaker 2: so he didn't have a heart attack. He was in
Speaker 2: his late fifties at the time. He felt that surgeon
Speaker 2: not adrenaline, like a ton of bricks on his chest.
Speaker 3: He calms down.
Speaker 2: They hear noises way off in the distance. The guests
Speaker 2: made a couple hundred yards scream, sound like stuff breaking
Speaker 2: trees breaking and all this stuff, and they didn't know
Speaker 2: what in hell to do. It's just them two on
Speaker 2: this creek bed with a tent on a couple of firearms.
Speaker 2: They were dumb struck.
Speaker 3: They did not know what to do. Their meeting point
Speaker 3: was days away.
Speaker 2: They still had approximately four days left before their friend
Speaker 2: was supposed to be going back and forth on the
Speaker 2: portion of the river to pick them up. Where their
Speaker 2: designated meetup point wasn't so. Vinson said that him and
Speaker 2: Terry sat there back to back after they collected some firewood,
Speaker 2: shouldered or shoulder with the flashlights as much as they could,
Speaker 2: and they kept feeding the fire in the darkest point
Speaker 2: of the night, back to back the whole time. They said,
Speaker 2: three separate times this thing came in on them, almost
Speaker 2: like probing the boundaries, probing how close they could get.
Speaker 2: They suspect that Terry really pissed it off, They said
Speaker 2: it when they saw it these few times, as it
Speaker 2: would almost like press towards them, they would pop off
Speaker 2: some shots, not trying to kill it, but trying to
Speaker 2: wish shots passed it to scare it away. Every time
Speaker 2: they would do that, it kept looking like it was
Speaker 2: favoring one arm. It wasn't using it like they thought
Speaker 2: it would, so they suspected that maybe Terry when he
Speaker 2: fired when Benson fell down, that maybe it struck its arm.
Speaker 2: They still don't know, and probably never will. There's no
Speaker 2: way to figure that out. So as this happened, they
Speaker 2: said three to four times, they were getting really worn
Speaker 2: out by the last time it happened, they said. The
Speaker 2: last time it happened, it came in from the backside
Speaker 2: of their tent to where they didn't have eyes on
Speaker 2: it at the moment. They kept looking at the spot
Speaker 2: where it kept coming from, emerging from the direction that
Speaker 2: Benson had gotten a little hypnotized and off to their
Speaker 2: right hand side. So all of a sudden, off to
Speaker 2: their immediate left where the tent was, the tent goes flying.
Speaker 2: Ventson said that this thing grabbed it by the top
Speaker 2: and flung their tit away in the direction directly away
Speaker 2: from them. It just flew out of sight, he said.
Speaker 2: It happened so fast, he said it had they been
Speaker 2: inside the tent, they probably would have flown thirty yards
Speaker 2: it flung, and with it being a nylon tip, it
Speaker 2: didn't go all that far. But it was fast, and
Speaker 2: it was very powerful. The way it was assitched and
Speaker 2: ripped out of the ground. The guidelines were all snapped
Speaker 2: in a heartbeat. The canned stringline that was attached a
Speaker 2: tent went fling that lane, flinging after it into the
Speaker 2: water and stuff. And so they stand there shot for
Speaker 2: a second as this thing is standing there as well,
Speaker 2: looking right at them. They said it was very forceful,
Speaker 2: like it was challenging them.
Speaker 3: They said.
Speaker 2: At this point they opened up directly at it, started
Speaker 2: firing shots, and after the first couple of shots broke,
Speaker 2: this thing was already hauling ass away.
Speaker 3: They said.
Speaker 2: It was heading due south when they stopped firing. And
Speaker 2: so they sat there and sat there. Ben's and picked
Speaker 2: up smoking for a little bit. That night he got
Speaker 2: a cigarette or two from Terry stretched out. They don't drink,
Speaker 2: so they didn't have any little party favors or anything
Speaker 2: like that along with the mini brown water. And so
Speaker 2: they sat until it was light enough in the morning
Speaker 2: and they started heading due west. And that was the
Speaker 2: morning of day seven that they started heading due west.
Speaker 2: They made it to the river after about five hours.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, as they were traveling and as they
Speaker 2: got to the river, they heard this screams and weird
Speaker 2: yells periodically to the south of them. You couldn't tell
Speaker 2: how far, but it was loud. And so as they
Speaker 2: got to the river's edge and they were sitting there,
Speaker 2: an elderly man and an elderly lady skipped by and
Speaker 2: they waved, and they were trying to flag them down.
Speaker 2: The elders waved and continued on, and they're like, shit,
Speaker 2: if there was someone out on the river, there'll be
Speaker 2: someone else out on the river.
Speaker 3: So they sat there a good few hours.
Speaker 2: And then a little while later after that couple hours,
Speaker 2: actually a younger guy in the same skip that the
Speaker 2: elderly people were in came zipping down river, spotted them,
Speaker 2: turned around and come up. They told them who they were,
Speaker 2: who their friend was that dropped them off. They happened
Speaker 2: to be relative. Said, hey, just get in. What's going on?
Speaker 2: You guys weren't supposed to be ready for a few
Speaker 2: more days. They tell him what happened. The younger guy
Speaker 2: just chuckled, didn't respond to it, left it alone. Benson
Speaker 2: said that when he talked to his friend that had
Speaker 2: dropped him off the week before, for them to start
Speaker 2: this journey. It wasn't until he was meeting back up
Speaker 2: with his friend that he remembered the advice his friend
Speaker 2: gave him, and he blew it off. It meant nothing
Speaker 2: in the moment, until after the factor his friend told
Speaker 2: him his native friend told him do not mess with
Speaker 2: the Harryman and left it at that. Benson thought nothing
Speaker 2: of it, didn't even mention it to Terry. Didn't even
Speaker 2: think nothing about the harry Man. It wasn't until everything
Speaker 2: was done he remembered that, I want to thank Benson
Speaker 2: for the effort.
Speaker 3: I want to thank Terry.
Speaker 2: It took a while to get this coordinated because they
Speaker 2: live in two different states and have two different lives.
Speaker 2: At this point, they're still good friends. They didn't lose
Speaker 2: their friendship or anything like that. Thank you guys for
Speaker 2: joining me. We'll catch you on the next one built