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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here something just because my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus quice you better New York, Hello, get somebody out here.

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<v Speaker 3>What quent on out there?

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<v Speaker 1>It's thought of a bit of about sixty forty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know easy out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, greetings from Alaska. This is spread Royal Korean

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<v Speaker 3>travel counts.

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<v Speaker 2>However, from doing it, I'm going to share with you

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<v Speaker 2>today the experience. So the two relatives that were with

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<v Speaker 2>me on the river bank with d al hooting, we

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<v Speaker 2>have man and camp. They flung some of the fire

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<v Speaker 2>logs are out on the river that same year, less

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<v Speaker 2>than a month later from that experience, we'll call the

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<v Speaker 2>Penelope and Jasmine. That's not their real names, but close enough.

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<v Speaker 2>So Penelope and Jasmine that were with me. They both

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<v Speaker 2>were going gold prospecting, but up by Harris Creek, which

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<v Speaker 2>is north of klik Andick. It's just above where the

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<v Speaker 2>cutoff for the New Yecup River where they come together

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<v Speaker 2>there they take off.

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<v Speaker 3>They get up.

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<v Speaker 2>There and there's this big gravel bar right there in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the river, and it's got this huge

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<v Speaker 2>tree stock. I don't know how long that tree style

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<v Speaker 2>has been stuck on that particular gravel bar, but it

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<v Speaker 2>breaks the channel up into two and it goes right

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<v Speaker 2>around the gravel bar, and it's really deep channel. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're facing north, deep channel, high bank to your left,

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<v Speaker 2>tree dump in front of you on this gravel bar,

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<v Speaker 2>lower bank to your right, with a lot of trees

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<v Speaker 2>that wrap back around the bend. A little further down

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<v Speaker 2>on the left is the mouth of the Nuyacut River

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<v Speaker 2>in a spit, a little bit of a point from

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<v Speaker 2>where it converges. They get there and they get set up.

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<v Speaker 2>As they're getting set up, they heard weird noises, but

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<v Speaker 2>they put nothing to it. Just they were in the

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<v Speaker 2>deep woods. It's probably just some loose drawing or something

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<v Speaker 2>they just never came across.

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<v Speaker 3>So they do their thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They set up their kent and they said it just

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<v Speaker 2>behind that big tree style to block the breeze that

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<v Speaker 2>comes down the river.

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<v Speaker 3>They're set up and they're comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>They got a limited amount of firewood, but they only

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<v Speaker 2>planned on camping on the gravel bar just that one night,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were going to continue up to Harris Creek.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're doing their thing. Jasmine's tired, goes asleep. Penelope

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<v Speaker 2>stays up, turning the fire, sipping some cold ones and

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<v Speaker 2>joining the beautiful scenery. In that time of year, it's

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<v Speaker 2>roughly a twelve twelve light cycle, twelve hours of darkness,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hours a light. It hasn't gone into the wee

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<v Speaker 2>hours of winter where we get three four hours of

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<v Speaker 2>actual sun on the horizon, kinding of light. He's doing

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, little fires popping and crackling away, and it

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<v Speaker 2>keeps getting this eerie feeling like he's just something right,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's being watched. So grabs a spotlight firearms still

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<v Speaker 2>in its case inside the tent. They were on a

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<v Speaker 2>say a bar they fell safe from any intrusion as

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<v Speaker 2>they fell, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be alright. So he just grabs a spotlight and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes around the whole long gravel bar there, just beaming

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<v Speaker 2>off into the trees, trying to figure out why he's

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<v Speaker 2>getting this eerie feeling. And it gets to the front

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<v Speaker 2>side of the stump facing northward Terrors Creek. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>beam on it sees five sets of eyeshire, three smaller ones,

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<v Speaker 2>two taller ones. That three smaller eyes shines were bright

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<v Speaker 2>vivid white, and the two taller ones were a amber red,

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<v Speaker 2>and immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>He's shucked, what the hell is that?

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<v Speaker 2>It was more curiosity for Penelope, because Penelope's just really

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<v Speaker 2>trying to He's checking his glasses and he's just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to put together what he's seeing. It seems through out

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<v Speaker 2>of place to have that kind of thing happening. So

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<v Speaker 2>he chalked it up initially that there must be someone

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<v Speaker 2>some reflectors of some kind up there, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>in a weird pattern.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be able to make it out tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>And looked it at that because he didn't move none

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff, and he still has this eerie feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>He was able to compartmentalize eye shine into something that

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<v Speaker 2>just isn't nothing to worry about.

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<v Speaker 3>What's funny and subconscious that he knew something was off.

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<v Speaker 2>I only laughed because Penelope gave me so much crap

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<v Speaker 2>before this experience for him, so I'll leave it along

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<v Speaker 2>and just tease him.

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<v Speaker 3>What the name change?

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<v Speaker 2>So Penelope starts beaming again, just keeps feeling like he's

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<v Speaker 2>being watched beams again, and he's circling back the other

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<v Speaker 2>direction this time. And when he swings the light over

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<v Speaker 2>to where the New YORKUK meets the Nishgak River. There

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<v Speaker 2>at that little point, he thought he saw what it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like a big guy in the fur jacket jumped

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<v Speaker 2>into the trees, but he heard nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still in a little bit of self denial.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like things aren't making sense, but internally his mind

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<v Speaker 2>is danger So he digs.

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<v Speaker 3>The gun out. He said he felt like he was

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<v Speaker 3>on autopilot. Everything was surreal.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded like a weird noise happening, but he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>really make it out, like a whining of a saw

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<v Speaker 2>way off in the distance. That's the best thing he

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<v Speaker 2>could equate it too. He said it probably wasn't a soft.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets his rifle out, has it loaded, has it ready,

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<v Speaker 2>stokes the fire a little bit, and continues drinking some

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<v Speaker 2>cold beers. He continues, bought lighting and didn't say anything

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<v Speaker 2>else of the eyes shine wasn't there, And so he

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<v Speaker 2>calms down and he sits and he's just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>piece together what he saw and if he actually saw it,

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<v Speaker 2>because let's be honest, if we were out there and

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<v Speaker 2>we saw five sets of eye showing, when's your first

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<v Speaker 2>response be what the hell am I looking at? And

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<v Speaker 2>did I really see that? So he's going over everything

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<v Speaker 2>in his mind, he said. As he's doing that, he's

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<v Speaker 2>facing north towards Harris Creek, with the fire right in

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<v Speaker 2>front of him, a little offset spotlight next to him

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<v Speaker 2>in the rifle, leaning up out of his leg.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he was sitting a tree stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the corner of his left eye, he sees

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<v Speaker 2>this big thing moving on the river bank adjacent to

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<v Speaker 2>a parallel and then moving up towards Harry's Creek. He

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<v Speaker 2>frowze up, looking and he grabs the spotlight out of

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<v Speaker 2>the corner of his eye and he beams and this

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<v Speaker 2>scene gets beamed quartering away from him, so he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see its face, but he said it was Paul Man

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<v Speaker 2>like long arms. It wasn't pitch black, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>very dark in color. It was obviously not a man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was way way too big to be some made,

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<v Speaker 2>too big to be a suit to be moving that fluidly.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't reactionary. It was more like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>you do with that? So it just moves on into

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<v Speaker 2>the darkness. He stopped beaming. It just heading the sand

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<v Speaker 2>type of thing. He goes, no, this ain't right, so

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<v Speaker 2>he wakes up Jasmine. Jasmine's not happy. His feathers were

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<v Speaker 2>ruffled to be interrupted by foolishness until he came outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Came out.

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<v Speaker 2>After arguing back and forth, Panold was serious, Hey, get

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<v Speaker 2>your butt out here, come see this stuff for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I need a witness, basically, man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what boils down to, because he felt if he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get Jasmine to come see this stuff going on

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<v Speaker 2>with him, no one would believe him.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, fair enough, that's how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>So finally coaxes Jasmine out of the tent and demand's

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<v Speaker 2>Jasmine bringing his rifle. So Jasmine calling out his rifle

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, man they're better be a bear ready to

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<v Speaker 2>charge us for getting me out of this. Damn, I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they'd been on the river a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a while to get way up there like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're going back and forth, and he's explaining what

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<v Speaker 2>he saw and Jasmine's dismissing it, and then I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what frick I saw, Doude, Listen to what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you. He goes. Listen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Jasmin catches on that numbing, buzzing sound off in the distance,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they're both literally listening to the air, not

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<v Speaker 2>really looking in any particular direction from the direction to

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<v Speaker 2>Harris Creek just north of them, they hear the loudest,

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<v Speaker 2>blood curdling scream that they've ever heard, and it snapped

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<v Speaker 2>them out of their little trance argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Survival mode instantly kicks in, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Once Jasmine came out, he was standing and holding his rifle,

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<v Speaker 2>and somehow his rifle ended up right near the edge

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<v Speaker 2>of the water, because when they were startled, stuff kind

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<v Speaker 2>of flung when they were jolted with that string. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how loud it was, that's how forceful this scream was,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he immediately grabs his rifle again. He's checking it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they get the spotlight and they beam the direction

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<v Speaker 2>that they heard the scream come from. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what the hell's coming, so they beam. When they beam,

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<v Speaker 2>they see three sets of eye shine, two bigger red

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<v Speaker 2>eye shines, one smaller white set eye shine, and they

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<v Speaker 2>kill the light real quick because this time there was movement,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they killed it. And we didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>attract that whatever the hell it is, because they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>make it out. They could just make out the eye

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<v Speaker 2>shine at that distance. They sit down the spotlight and

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking amongst each other. Maybe we should drip down

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<v Speaker 2>river a little waves anchor out and then became what

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<v Speaker 2>we did earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>That year with the au hooting stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They're discussing that because we didn't see anything at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>and this time they actually see these things and they're

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily trying to hide.

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<v Speaker 3>They did a little movement.

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<v Speaker 2>They both recognized it's not right. So they start talking

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<v Speaker 2>reliving what happened a few weeks before with me in

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<v Speaker 2>the skiff when we had to ditch that camping spot

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<v Speaker 2>with a big bonfire. And as they're discussing reliving that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>They hear another scream comes direction, but it's a little closer,

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<v Speaker 2>so immediately they snap out of their debate. They beam

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<v Speaker 2>up towards Harris Creek again. Now there's the three they saw,

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<v Speaker 2>the two bigger red eye shines, the smaller set of

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<v Speaker 2>white eye shine. They saw two more red eye shines,

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<v Speaker 2>even taller than the ones three or four other white

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<v Speaker 2>eye shines. They started panicking because of the noise eye shins.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's something living and there's something very loud over there.

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<v Speaker 2>They already know it's a hairy man. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how this is happening. So they decide they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna roll the punches. Nothing has happened. We'll stay here

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<v Speaker 2>on this gravel bar. Now, it's only twenty feet to

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<v Speaker 2>between that and the high bank to their left, and

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<v Speaker 2>that goes northwards Harris Creeks out of it. So they

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<v Speaker 2>got their game plan. They're gonna forget about They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want nothing to do with it. They're gonna forget about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing's happened. They're safe, and as they're discussing how they're safe,

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<v Speaker 2>they are think this cadence of something dropping in the water,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing big, just like little pebbles getting dropped in the water.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happening at such a rate that they can't ignore it.

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<v Speaker 2>At first, they figured it was a little fish job

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<v Speaker 2>or something you've ever been on lake similar to that

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<v Speaker 2>to sounds, So that starts happening, and then the cadence

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<v Speaker 2>behind them and from just off in front of them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're thrown off by it. It's like all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a new thing making noise. So they decide, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't ignore this. Let's stoke up the fire. Jasmine wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>feeling good genuinely said, hey, I'm gonna have my fire already,

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<v Speaker 2>but I need to lay down so if anything starts

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<v Speaker 3>I will jump up and join.

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<v Speaker 2>You and Penol if he wasn't happy with that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>his look wasn't feeling good, See how go lay down it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just as they finished that little conversation and Jasmine's crawling

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<v Speaker 2>into the tap, a huge splash hits the channel between them.

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<v Speaker 3>And the high make to.

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<v Speaker 2>Their leaf coblooge and there's a broken top half of

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<v Speaker 2>a birch tree, leaves still on it. They didn't hear

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<v Speaker 2>this thing break and nothing. All of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just colute up. He was just raising watching this thing

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<v Speaker 2>start to sink into the river and then get drive

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<v Speaker 2>down by the current.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just so random, a tree in the channel.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's trying to figure out what he just saw.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was a tree.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew it was a birch tree, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to process the mechanics of what just happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is this happening?

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<v Speaker 2>The fear level goes right back up to where he

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<v Speaker 2>can't not pay attention. So he resumes close in the

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<v Speaker 2>front of the fire and he's got his firearm and

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<v Speaker 2>he's telling Jasmin, who's communicating from the tent, pay oh fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just laying here ready to move. Just holler if

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<v Speaker 2>you need me, And he goes, Dude, something threw a

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<v Speaker 3>Something's not right. So they talked back and forth and

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<v Speaker 3>he realizes.

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<v Speaker 2>That Jasmine is genuinely not feeling so he eases up

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<v Speaker 2>on how aggressive he's being about help me.

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<v Speaker 3>He realizes he's there and he'll help.

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<v Speaker 2>So as they're having this little discussion, corner of his

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<v Speaker 2>eye he sees the moment again. This thing is pacing

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth, not quite getting parallel with them on

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<v Speaker 2>the river bank, but just above them, pacing back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And after it stopped pacing back and forth, it turned

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<v Speaker 2>and looked directly at him that started doing this swaying

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<v Speaker 2>thing as it lowered it and squatted itself down, bringing

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<v Speaker 2>its elbows onto its knees, and then doing this sway

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<v Speaker 2>thing and going back up to standing up. He said

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<v Speaker 2>it was every bit of at least twelve foot tall.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a rough guesstimate. He said it was very big,

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<v Speaker 2>very hulky, real thick. So this thing squats down, stands

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<v Speaker 2>back up, doing the same thing. Coming down the river bank,

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<v Speaker 2>it does this little half step, does the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>staring right at him, squats all the way down, elbows

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<v Speaker 2>on the knees kind of thing, and does the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing and stands back up, and that little half step

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<v Speaker 2>does it again. This whole time he's this measurment as

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<v Speaker 2>of what the hell am I watching? As this thing

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<v Speaker 2>is doing this When it would get to full height,

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<v Speaker 2>he noticed its eyes would take off him and look

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<v Speaker 2>behind him and then right back to him, like it

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<v Speaker 2>was really fast. But he noticed it because it was

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<v Speaker 2>every time it stood up, he was like, what the hell.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to tell Jasmine what's happening, but he's stuttering

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<v Speaker 2>because he's all struck by what's happening. But he knows

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<v Speaker 2>it's looking at something behind him, and he doesn't like

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<v Speaker 2>that thoughts, so he grabs the beam. He gets Jasmin

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<v Speaker 2>to come out. Jasmine starts watching this thing do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still on his hands and knees like a dog,

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<v Speaker 2>looking out the tad door to his right. Now up

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<v Speaker 2>at the river bank, at this sink doing this. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>grant you, there's no beam on it. It's simple firelight

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<v Speaker 2>and the ambient light. At that time of night, the

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<v Speaker 2>woods still seemed pitch black. But they could see this

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<v Speaker 2>thing doing this thing, and they could see its eyes

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<v Speaker 2>because of the firelight. When it would look at him,

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<v Speaker 2>it gave off a certain luminescence, not like a it's

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<v Speaker 2>throw on high beams. It just a weird type of

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<v Speaker 2>eye shine was coming off of it to where it

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<v Speaker 2>was easy to see it was two lie Bys.

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<v Speaker 3>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>be right back after the these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like a direct eyeshine. I understand what he's getting.

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<v Speaker 2>At Jasmine's Washington sing Penelope grabs the spotlight, spot lights it.

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<v Speaker 2>It keeps doing his thing. It stopped doing this little

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<v Speaker 2>half step thing and doing it. It was the standard

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<v Speaker 2>of another place, stand up, do the same thing down,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just kept doing that repetitively at its own pace.

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<v Speaker 2>It's old cadence. And so he turns around and beams

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<v Speaker 2>directly behind where he's noticed the scene keeps looking once

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<v Speaker 2>it stands up all the way, he sees two sets

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<v Speaker 2>of eye shine down river on the opposite bank looking

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<v Speaker 2>back at him.

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<v Speaker 3>So now concern goes way up. Now, what the hell

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<v Speaker 3>do we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Turns around because Jasmin's slapping his leg, because Jasmin's still

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<v Speaker 2>on all fours looking over to his right. Stop at

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<v Speaker 2>this thing doing this stuff, and he starts slapping Penelope's

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<v Speaker 2>leg to get his attention because he couldn't speak. This

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<v Speaker 2>thing had come further down parallel with them, just directly

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<v Speaker 2>across the twenty foot distance or so, a little higher

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<v Speaker 2>than now and was just so massive standing there and

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<v Speaker 2>it's starting making this weird noise, showing its teeth and

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<v Speaker 2>started rocking back and forth with that same noise down

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<v Speaker 2>to his knees and then back up. And they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing is getting worked up. It's challenging us. Immediate concern.

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<v Speaker 2>They decide they're going to take the fires. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>chircle a round to the backside of that tree stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and keep an eye in that direction in case it

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<v Speaker 2>starts throwing stuff, which is a genuine concern. They did

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<v Speaker 2>that directly as a result of what happened to me

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<v Speaker 2>the year before when that one chucked a rock at me.

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<v Speaker 3>So they got behind some kind of real cover instead

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<v Speaker 3>of a simple nile on tech. They didn't know its intention.

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<v Speaker 2>How could you this thing's making this weird noise up

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<v Speaker 2>squatting down.

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<v Speaker 3>You got two sets of eye shine behind you. You're

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<v Speaker 3>sitting here freaked out because this thing is doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>We get there's other ones around. I've been in similar situations.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not something you want. I hear a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people say, I just want to see you one

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<v Speaker 2>to confirm I know they're there, and fair enough if

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<v Speaker 2>I get it human curiosity. You want to know, but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you gotta be careful what the hell you're wishing for,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's certain things the reality of what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing's doing this crazy stuff. They're virtually surrounded, but

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<v Speaker 2>yet they had a retreat, they had the skiff right there,

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<v Speaker 2>they had guns. Nothing drastic has happened, but there's some

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<v Speaker 2>ominous about what this sing is doing. So it goes

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<v Speaker 2>on for a little bit, still doing a thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>it always would turn and be directly facing them. But

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<v Speaker 2>he did notice after a couple times a bit squatting

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<v Speaker 2>down and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Once they got behind the stump, it was looking and.

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<v Speaker 2>Not where it was originally where he saw the two

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<v Speaker 2>sets of eye shine behind them on the river bank.

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<v Speaker 2>But the eye shine he had anticipated was moving. So

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<v Speaker 2>when he beamed that direction where you saw it looking now,

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough two sets of eyeshine, different heights. They were

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<v Speaker 2>bobbing and moving because of the light or so he

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<v Speaker 2>could really make out full figures.

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<v Speaker 3>So he kills the light. They're behind the stop.

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<v Speaker 2>The one is still on the bank on the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>side of the stop, and they're watching it move around,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's almost like it's searching the ground looking for something.

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<v Speaker 2>They think, oh, it's gonna grab a rock. Jasmine's freaked

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<v Speaker 2>out at the thought. He goes, we can't just let.

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<v Speaker 3>It grab a rock. So he shoots a shot in

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<v Speaker 3>the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there's a shit out of Penelope because Penelope wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>expecting it.

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<v Speaker 3>The shot rings out.

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<v Speaker 2>This scene takes off into the trees, doesn't look back,

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<v Speaker 2>just gone and he didn't shoot at it. Penelope turns,

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<v Speaker 2>beams the opposite side of the river bank and there's

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<v Speaker 2>just some brush moving, no eye shine, okay, A pop

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<v Speaker 2>a shot in the air. This scene cook off, so

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<v Speaker 2>they beam up towards Harry's Creek again. No more Eyeshinl're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're good, good, okay, now we know what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Would pop a shot? They're gone.

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<v Speaker 2>They felt confident in this. They calmed down. Some time pass,

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<v Speaker 2>Jasmine gets back to sleep. Penelope decides, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>one more cold on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this thing is laying there and he's got the

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<v Speaker 2>rifle laid on him because you know what they just

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with and saw. Things have gotten quiet and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just doze and off. He didn't remember how much started

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<v Speaker 2>to pass. But it was plenty dark by now. He

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<v Speaker 2>heard something in the water, like a gurgling water sound

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<v Speaker 2>like something moving through the water. So he's just laying

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<v Speaker 2>there listening on is that something drifting down the river

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<v Speaker 2>and water's just lapping over it, or it's something moving

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<v Speaker 2>through the water. He found out soon enough. He felt

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<v Speaker 2>and heard water dripping off of this thing as it

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<v Speaker 2>came onto the gravel bar. So it crossed across the channel,

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<v Speaker 2>is coming up the gravel bar, and it circles around

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<v Speaker 2>the stump, and it circles around the whole tent hoffing

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<v Speaker 2>and it was imitating a bear hut really well, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was too loud. It was far too loud to

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<v Speaker 2>actually be a bear huh. Because zero to Salmon River.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to make sure right. So after this thing

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<v Speaker 2>circled once and he heard it going back towards the stump,

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<v Speaker 2>he figured, now it's a good time. I can get

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<v Speaker 2>out behind it and get sight on this if it

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<v Speaker 2>is a bear, and scare it off. So he unzips

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<v Speaker 2>and then he hears the grunting stop whatever it was

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<v Speaker 2>her the zipper, and he got quiet and he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear it moving anymore, and he goes, hey, we're armed

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<v Speaker 2>in here. I will shoot you very loud. Scream echoes

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<v Speaker 2>up and down the river, very loud, multiple octaves. Freak

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out. Jasmin's up right now. Because this thing

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<v Speaker 2>literally screened less than fifteen feet away from them. They

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<v Speaker 2>felt it through everything. So he threatens to shoot. Scream happens.

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<v Speaker 2>He's stuck. The zipper's only part of the way up

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<v Speaker 2>and he ain't gonna freaking get out of there. In

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<v Speaker 2>his mid's eye, he's picture in this thing, just snatching

421
00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the tent like he would and rolled up brown paper

422
00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:01.079
<v Speaker 2>bag and just smashing it against and rightfully, I would

423
00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:01.960
<v Speaker 2>have thought the same thing.

424
00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:03.480
<v Speaker 3>They're dead. Quiet.

425
00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.160
<v Speaker 2>They hear the scene moving to get circles around one

426
00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.839
<v Speaker 2>more time, grunting aloud of this time with the gurgle.

427
00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:12.400
<v Speaker 2>He sounded like if you had a bad walk of pneumonia.

428
00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Every time he breathed out, it had that sound to it.

429
00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:18.519
<v Speaker 2>And he said it was unnerving because you could tell

430
00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:23.680
<v Speaker 2>it was massive. The scene was massive, felt the footsteps

431
00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.599
<v Speaker 2>in the ground. It circled the second time and it

432
00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.440
<v Speaker 2>stopped behind the tree stump, and they heard the tree

433
00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:33.640
<v Speaker 2>stump moving rolling in the gravel, and they could feel

434
00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it being rocked and pushed because of the weight of it.

435
00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:37.279
<v Speaker 3>Bult thump in the ground.

436
00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:40.880
<v Speaker 2>They're not that far from this thing, so they're like,

437
00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.279
<v Speaker 2>is this thing gonna smash us? With the tree stopped,

438
00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.799
<v Speaker 2>and Penelope said, shrew this, zips up the tent and

439
00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:50.599
<v Speaker 2>just shoots out the door the opposite direction of this thing.

440
00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:55.039
<v Speaker 2>He's just shooting high out the doors. Yea, let's a

441
00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:56.000
<v Speaker 2>bunch a round fly.

442
00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Had their ten round box mag or whatever.

443
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.519
<v Speaker 2>There's just all sorts of sound that happens on both

444
00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.000
<v Speaker 2>sides of the river at this point.

445
00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.880
<v Speaker 3>So they're both like, holy shit. So they get out, they.

446
00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Crawl out, they beam around, and they don't see nothing

447
00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that happening. They felt eerie enough that they took what

448
00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:19.759
<v Speaker 2>they could. They left the tip there. They got in

449
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the skiff and they use the battery life left on

450
00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that spotlight to putter their butts and stay in the

451
00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.880
<v Speaker 2>channel to get back down to Kaliganik. And they camped

452
00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.079
<v Speaker 2>out on the landing at Kaliganik there. This is not

453
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.680
<v Speaker 2>unique to me, it's not unique to them. And Nick,

454
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:41.119
<v Speaker 2>like Chris the photographer with several fishing game warns, I

455
00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:43.920
<v Speaker 2>wish they would come board and speak, because I'm sure

456
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:46.680
<v Speaker 2>they've seen just as much shit, if not more than me.

457
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.920
<v Speaker 2>A little something about what I exactly know. I am

458
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<v Speaker 2>no expert, I am not a researcher. I am simply

459
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:59.319
<v Speaker 2>a First Nation's Alaska native that has had these encounters

460
00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:03.079
<v Speaker 2>and experience and never talked about it until just the

461
00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:06.599
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years. In our culture, we don't share,

462
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 2>we don't spread it out. It stays in our community.

463
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.279
<v Speaker 2>It's part of our oral history. When we're speaking on

464
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>these things so nonchalantly, it's because that's how it is

465
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.799
<v Speaker 2>out there in the bush. These things happen periodically. You'll

466
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>have a hairy man's scream at you, you'll have something

467
00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:28.119
<v Speaker 2>thrown at you as you're walking down at the mountain trail.

468
00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:32.000
<v Speaker 2>It happens all the time, but it's never talked about,

469
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:33.480
<v Speaker 2>especially in our culture.

470
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Now there's people that you know.

471
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Have had Alaskan experiences that have shared elsewhere. I'm from Alaska,

472
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I've shared it elsewhere, but a lot of First Nations don't,

473
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and that's because it's not in our culture. We don't

474
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>go squatching. As a matter of fact, that one I

475
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.839
<v Speaker 2>saw by the Mannaicuota trail. It made a wooden knock

476
00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:55.200
<v Speaker 2>sounds with its mouth. It didn't bang two sticks together.

477
00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:57.160
<v Speaker 2>It made like a tongue pop, and it sounded like

478
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:58.880
<v Speaker 2>two Louisville slungers hitting each other.

479
00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:02.920
<v Speaker 3>So you do with that? I don't know by no

480
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 3>means of my an expert.

481
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I've just had circumstances happen from the places I bear,

482
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:12.079
<v Speaker 2>and that give me a different outlook on it, because

483
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:14.759
<v Speaker 2>for us, it's not a matter of proving anything.

484
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:16.240
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing to be proven.

485
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.680
<v Speaker 2>It is just as relevant as most bearer wolverine cariboo.

486
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:22.039
<v Speaker 3>It is just as relevant.

487
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>It's the outside world that doesn't accept it. Doesn't accept

488
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:29.160
<v Speaker 2>it because some of them with the fancy piece of

489
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 2>paper didn't say And that's on them. I can't change that.

490
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Speaker 2>They can sit there in their Ivy League school that's

491
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.920
<v Speaker 2>less than two hundred years old and try to dictate

492
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.839
<v Speaker 2>something that has been passed down orally for tens of

493
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 2>thousands of years through the first nations.

494
00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:47.079
<v Speaker 3>They dismiss it. Oh, it's there of a mythos, it's

495
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:48.680
<v Speaker 3>in mythology, it's this, that's that.

496
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, until you have experienced it. A lot

497
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>of non believers, they won't believe it understandable. But understand,

498
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 2>when I'm speaking of these things, it's not that I

499
00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:00.880
<v Speaker 2>live in some fairy tale land in my head or

500
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.359
<v Speaker 2>some bullshit like that. I'm very saying these things are

501
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 2>happening constantly in a remote village.

502
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 3>And when I say constant.

503
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Land, I mean every time someone goes outside, I'm saying

504
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.839
<v Speaker 2>it happens with such relative frequency.

505
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.839
<v Speaker 3>Why report it? You leave the village, something screams at you,

506
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:19.559
<v Speaker 3>you make it home.

507
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:24.240
<v Speaker 2>That's daily light, not literally every day, but that's part

508
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 2>of lights and the remote Alaska weird stuff all the time.

509
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:30.039
<v Speaker 3>You don't how many UFOs.

510
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:33.079
<v Speaker 2>As sightings have been shared with me from just between

511
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 2>new Studio Hawk and Colligan. It literally, I already have

512
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.839
<v Speaker 2>several handfuls of just those encounters of seeing a UFO

513
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.720
<v Speaker 2>in these very remote places in all Aska. There's so

514
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:50.640
<v Speaker 2>much going on that we have no clue by no means. Understand.

515
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to sound like I'm some authoritative voice

516
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and I know all this.

517
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.279
<v Speaker 3>What I'm sharing is what I know, and I don't

518
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.079
<v Speaker 3>know squad. I'm not an expert.

519
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Seeing their tracks several types of scenes what they would

520
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 2>call structures, seeing these things, Ronnie doing all sorts of

521
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 2>different various things.

522
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 3>But it's by default, it's not unique to me. There's

523
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 3>so many people in Kalignik New Studio.

524
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Hawk back homing, dilling here, several lodges in through the

525
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 2>wood chick Chicks, state parks.

526
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't get spoken about. So no one knows.

527
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 2>That this stuff is going on. So when you hear

528
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 2>someone like me just spouting so nonchalantly about it, it could

529
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>give you the wrong idea and maybe I know something

530
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 2>others don't.

531
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know shit.

532
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 2>What I do know is what I've experienced, and what

533
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced has been aggression, cunning. The level of cunning

534
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 2>these things have is unreal. The Macha baby to lure

535
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>someone out. So what I'm getting at is I'm not

536
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 2>an expert on anything. I am only sharing what I've

537
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>dealt with and what others are sharing with me. If

538
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I had come across like I'm some expert on something,

539
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I apologize. I'm just sharing, hearing what I know, and honestly,

540
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>in the big scheme of things, I don't know squad,

541
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 2>I could tell you they shake stuff, they break stuff,

542
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.599
<v Speaker 2>and they throw stuff. Ooh, that's not a wealth of knowledge.

543
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 2>You understand, And I'm only knocked on about it because

544
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 2>I've accepted it. I've seen it. It's just part of

545
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>what's going on out there. It's what it is. I

546
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you all listening, listening to me rant about exactly what.

547
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I wanted to share with you today.

548
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Benson and Terry started but what was supposed to be

549
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>an adventure about twenty years ago.

550
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 3>Now.

551
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 2>They were basically going to do some fly fishing for trout.

552
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 2>They wanted some brookies and some other stuff. They made

553
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 2>their plans to get an Alaskan adventure. They both used

554
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>to live in Anchorage. Now I believe one is in

555
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 2>New Mexico and the other ones in Arizona. They didn't

556
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.240
<v Speaker 2>move because of this. They moved for jobs and family

557
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:55.519
<v Speaker 2>after this situation, so keep that in mind. It started off,

558
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>it was supposed to be a week long adventure. They

559
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 2>got dropped off on the cusca Quim had firearms. One

560
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.160
<v Speaker 2>had a lever action forty five to seventy, the other

561
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 2>twelve gage. They had a forty four magnum pistol. From

562
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 2>what Benson shared with me, it started off their first day.

563
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.359
<v Speaker 3>They were so excited. It was early fall. There was

564
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>still some.

565
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Mosquitos, not a whole lot, so they were basically finding

566
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>ways of combating the mosquitos. They didn't bring any bug

567
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 2>dope or anything, so they had biting flies and mosquitos

568
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>to deal with. They were going along just mitigating the train,

569
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out the best possible movements. So they

570
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>start their journey and they're going down this creek bed

571
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the initial point of it. From what Benson was saying,

572
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>there was birds and other wildlife signed for the first

573
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>day and a half. Now, they were not in a rush.

574
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>They were going to take their week, actually as ten days,

575
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>but it ended up being a week. But they're going

576
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>to take their ten days and make the most of it,

577
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>do their things, see Alaska, get some adventure in. As

578
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 2>the second day started, they got up to absolutely no

579
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>sound whatsoever. It was dead quiet, and they both got

580
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 2>the hebgb's and felt like they were being watched. Now

581
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Terry had gone to basically look around. Benson told him,

582
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>don't go too far, jokingly says, if you see anything interesting,

583
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>just let me know. Little did he know what was

584
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>about to happen, because Terry walks off and he's gone

585
00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes. He makes his way through brush and stuff,

586
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and it starts to open up into some tundra, probably

587
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>seventy five yards away from this creek. Terry said that

588
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>as soon as he busts through the shrubs into where

589
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 2>it opens up one hundred and twenty yards in front

590
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>of him, this figure was standing looking at him.

591
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Dumbfounded.

592
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 2>He said he couldn't make out the full expression on

593
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 2>a creature's face because it was silhouetted. The way the

594
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>sun was coming up, there was no clear definition of

595
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>facial features other than he could tell it was looking

596
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>right up at him and just tilted its head to

597
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>the side. What am I looking at? While he's tilting

598
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>his head? What the hell am I looking at?

599
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>And stay tuned for more sasquatchy out to see. We'll

600
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>be right back after these messages, so Terry said.

601
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>He cuts back, follows his back trail, gets back over there,

602
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 2>yells for Benson. Benson is tidying up camp and stuff,

603
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to be bear safe, putting away their breakfast stuff

604
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.119
<v Speaker 2>and their clean utensils. Terry comes pale as ghost saying, Hey,

605
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a big dude over there. Let's go talk to him.

606
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>So at this point, Terry didn't relate its size to

607
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.359
<v Speaker 2>anything other than a man, because where it's in open tundra,

608
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing to assess its height. There was no little

609
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 2>trees or shrubs near it for him to get a

610
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 2>good guests mian on height. He just assumed it was

611
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 2>a big dude, assumed he was in furs. Now, when

612
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Benson and Terry come back through the same path, they

613
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>get into the opening and there's nothing there, right, So

614
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Terry's like, I'm telling you it was standing over here.

615
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 3>So he goes show me. And so while Benson stood.

616
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 2>There, we're looking around, Terry started walking over that direction.

617
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It started dawning on him how far away it was,

618
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>started to mentally assess its height. Now, he doesn't make

619
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 2>it all the way out to a spot where he's

620
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 2>seen this thing standing Once he starts realizing, wait a minute,

621
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 2>this thing was much bigger than I thought. He stopped

622
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>going forward and turns around and comes back, meets up

623
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>with Benson's laughing at him. What's going on here? What

624
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>did you see? Was it a bear just standing up

625
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>looking at you? Terry, not wanting to be made fun of,

626
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, probably That's probably what it was with the

627
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>light and everything, which it was clear that morning, but

628
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:47.960
<v Speaker 2>he just went along with it. Must have been a

629
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>bear stood up, looked at me, freaked me out. Whatever,

630
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 2>so he let it go. They continue on about their day.

631
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 2>They continue hiking that creek. As they're hiking along that creek,

632
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>they go from east to west. That's where they camp

633
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>for their third night. Now, from what Terry said, as

634
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>they were getting ready to put camp up, he kept

635
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>feeling like he was being watched, and he kept turning

636
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 2>his back. It ended up to where he got so

637
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 2>creeped out. He moved the tint as close to the

638
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 2>water's edge as possible while Benson was doing other stuff.

639
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Benson was setting up a little cooking area and so

640
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't really paying attention to what Terry was doing.

641
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And then I guess they got into a little bit

642
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>of an argument once Benson saw how close to the

643
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 2>water that he was putting these tints up. Hey, we

644
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>can't be that close. If the big rain happens overnight,

645
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>we could get potentially flooded out or whatever, and we

646
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>could lose gear and YadA. So Terry's look, I feel

647
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 2>like I'm being watched, I'm getting the creeps over here

648
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:50.200
<v Speaker 2>by this brush. Benson assures him, Hey, look, it's probably

649
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>just that bear being curious. It's already seen us. It's

650
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.160
<v Speaker 2>probably just young and following us around. If it comes

651
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 2>in on us, then we'll take care of it. If not,

652
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>then we'll leave it be. Terry agreed, goes on with

653
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>what he was doing, changes the area of which he

654
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>set up the tent. What he ended up doing was

655
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>taking some of his fishing line, taking empty cans, and

656
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>making an early alarm system, early warning system, a little

657
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>trip wire, if you will, with cans attached to the

658
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>end of it. He had it laid out so whatever

659
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 2>tripped on this in coming out of the brush, it

660
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 2>would jingle cans right next to the tent. And so

661
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 2>while Benson was cooking, Terry was setting up his little

662
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>early warning system, and Benson gave him, shit, he's looked

663
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 2>that barrier gonna come in on us. We'll wash the

664
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>food trays. Will be good anyway. So that night they're

665
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>sitting around the campfire. They're both pretty tired and beat

666
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 2>up and bug bitten. They want to call it. So,

667
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 2>just as it was starting to get dark, probably between

668
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>eleven and midnight, they decide they're going to crawl into

669
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the tent, and no sooner than the tent was zipped,

670
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 2>they heard the cans jingle, and so immediately Terry is

671
00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>jumping up to unzip and stuff, and Benson says, hey,

672
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we just got in the tent. We probably bumped it

673
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 2>and jingled the cans. Calmed down, Terry calmed down, and

674
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 2>from what Terry said, he had an ominous feeling. He

675
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>couldn't explain it. He didn't know why, but he kept

676
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 2>getting this ominous feeling. Now, of the two, Terry smoked.

677
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>So a little bit later, Terry makes the excuse, I'm

678
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 2>going to step out and smoke a cigarette and make

679
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>sure that fire is dying down or whatever. And Benson

680
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 2>was already half asleep and said all right. So Terry

681
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>gets outside. He's on high alert. He's sitting there trying

682
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what made the cans jingle because they

683
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't bump the tent enough, and the way he had

684
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it set up, he knew that them getting in the

685
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:36.239
<v Speaker 2>tent wasn't going to jingle the.

686
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Cans, and so he was real curious.

687
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So he's sitting there watching the tree line behind him

688
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>is the little creek and it's running. It's making a

689
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit of noise, not a whole lot. It wasn't

690
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 2>very fast moving. And so he said, as he was

691
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>watching the trees in front of him in the brush,

692
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 2>he was looking at every shadow, studying it real hard.

693
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 2>He had the forty four magnum, his rifle was right

694
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 2>inside the tent, but and he felt secure in the moment.

695
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 3>He sat on the little.

696
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Log and was smoking a cigarette, just studying real hard.

697
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.320
<v Speaker 2>He realized he was hearing the weird noise and it

698
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.280
<v Speaker 2>was coming from in the water. Sounded like someone moving

699
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:12.880
<v Speaker 2>through the water.

700
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 3>So he's this.

701
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 2>English backtracking us and figured, I'm going to get to

702
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 2>drop on this bear because the noise was coming from

703
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the opposite side of the tent from what he said.

704
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>So he keeps around to the side and jumps out,

705
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>going ah ah ah, just yelling, trying to scare of

706
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>what he thought was going to be a bear off, right,

707
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>just give it a good startle and run it off.

708
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not what was in the water. So this thing

709
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>was standing about midway in the creek, just staring at

710
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>him while he's yelling, and stuff didn't flinch. Didn't make

711
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>a move, wasn't intimidated in the least bit. He said

712
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.079
<v Speaker 2>it was about eight and a half foot tall, from

713
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.119
<v Speaker 2>the best he could guess because it was in the

714
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 2>water and he wasn't sure exactly how deep the water

715
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 2>was there eight eight and a half foot out of

716
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the water. As he's sitting there dumbfounded, Benson heard him

717
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 2>scream and holler he's making a fuss because Benson, a

718
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 2>little older than Terry, didn't want to be dealing with

719
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Terry and Shenanigans are bullshit, you know what I mean.

720
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:10.119
<v Speaker 2>He's yeah, cussing him fussing. And as Benson starts moving

721
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>in the tent, basically coming out of the tent, this

722
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 2>thing hears that, and when Benson comes out, it turns

723
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 2>around and walks away from them. Benson was only able

724
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>to see the back end of this thing going up

725
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>over the bank into the brush. From what Benson said,

726
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>he did not see what Terry did at that moment.

727
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>All he saw was something dark going into the brush line.

728
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Fair enough.

729
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 2>He didn't full on see it. He didn't full on

730
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 2>see it. Terry's telling him what he saw. He said,

731
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>this thing is huge, at least eight eight and a

732
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 2>half foot tall standing in the water there. I yelled

733
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>at it. It did nothing. You came out and tell

734
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>them the whole thing. Benson, his curiosity's peaked. He doesn't

735
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>fully believe that's what Terry saw. He believes Terry saw something.

736
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>He's just not sure if he was misidentifying young juvenile

737
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 2>bears standing up. That's what Benson had stuck in his head.

738
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>He freely admitted that. He goes I had a bear.

739
00:36:58.760 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Stuck in my head.

740
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>As he's basically chastising Terry a little bit, he tells him,

741
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 2>next time you see that, Barry, shoot that thing. It's

742
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>obviously stalking us. It's a good enough reaze, We'll shoot it.

743
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 2>We'll report it whatever. Terry's okay. I didn't want to

744
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 2>do that, but I will. As they try to go

745
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.400
<v Speaker 2>back to sleep, which was very difficult for Terry, Benson

746
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't as startled as Terry, so Benson said he went

747
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 2>right to sleep. He wasn't quite in shape for hiking

748
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that, and so he decided I'll crash out.

749
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>In all honesty, from what Benson said, he was exhausted

750
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>fighting off bugs, trumpling through the water. It was taking

751
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 2>a toll on him. He wasn't used to backpacking around

752
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of gear, and so I was catching

753
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 2>up with them, and so Terry. Once he did fall

754
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>back asleep, he woke up hours later with those cans rattling,

755
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and he jumps up. He's in a panic. He comes

756
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.639
<v Speaker 2>stumbling out of the tent. He's trying to drag his

757
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.639
<v Speaker 2>rifle behind him, and Benson accidentally tripped over his trip

758
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 2>line and spilled breakfast. Benson was not happy. He was

759
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Cussingtery out, so they had a little bit of an argument.

760
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Benson had to remake breakfast and wasn't happy about that.

761
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 3>It was a bad start to their morning.

762
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:18.400
<v Speaker 2>So as they are getting what is left of their

763
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 2>breakfast done, they start hearing weird noises off in the distance,

764
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>way off in the distance.

765
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>They're like, wow, that's weird. They couldn't make it out.

766
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>They were suspecting maybe a coyote, but there was a

767
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>lower tone to it they couldn't quite place. So they

768
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 2>just left it at that because it was far enough

769
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>away it wasn't of immediate concern. Now, when they continued hiking,

770
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>they're going along and they start coming across these strange

771
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>tracks that they could see across the creek, and the

772
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 2>particular part they were on they just got over this

773
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 2>tight bend. They could see impressions in the gravelly dirt

774
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>right out of a cutbank, and they're like, ah, it

775
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 2>looks like that bear was walking this way. So they

776
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 2>didn't go and examine the tracks, but they were large.

777
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Benson was going with bear, and Terry wasn't going to

778
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 2>argue it because he knows what he saw and he

779
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>figured the way this thing was showing itself from what

780
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Terry said, Benson would eventually see it. They continued on

781
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of day four is when they saw the

782
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 2>tracks on the creek bank across from them. So come

783
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 2>up to an uneventful, very quiet, they said, for day

784
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 2>five and six, until going towards the end of day six.

785
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Now they had made some ground, they retired. They said

786
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>they got two good nights of really good sleep, just

787
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 2>from the hiking that they were doing, very terrain, sandy,

788
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 2>muddy to rocky, pebbly, cobblestone, through brush sometimes when they

789
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 2>had to find a way around the creek because it

790
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't conducive for hiking through. So just as they

791
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 2>were setting up camp. On day six, Benson had to

792
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 2>go and check.

793
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Some things out.

794
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>He had been hearing a weird whistle click sound, and

795
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>they said it seemed like it was directed at me.

796
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>He kept thinking Terry was trying to get his attention,

797
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 2>but Terry was right in front of him when he's

798
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>hearing this, and the noise was coming from Benson's left,

799
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 2>So finally.

800
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go check out over here real quick whatever.

801
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 2>And Terry sat down and lit a cigarette because they

802
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Speaker 2>were in the middle of popping the tent up and

803
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 2>they're taking a quick break. So as Terry smoking a cigarette,

804
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Benson walks off to his left, which would be approximately

805
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:28.880
<v Speaker 2>due south. Now, as he's walking due south, he gets

806
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe fifty feet from what he was saying, away from

807
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>where Terry was sitting, and Terry could see him clearly.

808
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 3>He hadn't gone into the trees yet.

809
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Benson hears that weird chatter kind of sound like click popping,

810
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a whistle, the slightest whistle, and

811
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.559
<v Speaker 2>it was really intriguing and he doesn't know why, but

812
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.559
<v Speaker 2>it really struck him and caught his attention, and he

813
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 2>was so curious about it, he said, reflecting back on it.

814
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 2>He felt like he was almost hypnotized and chanted by

815
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>this whistle sound. It was very melodic. It had a

816
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 2>certain melody to it that was a bit soothing from

817
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 2>what Benson was saying. So he turns and yells back

818
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 2>at Terry, Hey, I'm going to head off this way

819
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>just a little ways. If i'm not back in two minutes,

820
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>come looking for me. Terry's I'll come with you now.

821
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>So Terry puts out his cigarette, grabs this forty five

822
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 2>seventy and starts following Benson. Now, Benson, according to what

823
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Terry said, was maybe thirty five forty feet in front

824
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.599
<v Speaker 2>of him, clearly visible. They were approaching the tree line,

825
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and as they got closer to the tree line, Terry said,

826
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Benson stopped, got down on his knees and had his

827
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 2>head turned and was staring into the brush. Terry was

828
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>confused by it. He thought maybe his friend was having

829
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.800
<v Speaker 2>some medical issue or something, because he said he trotted up,

830
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 2>set his rifle down and was looking at him, and

831
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Benson looked like he was almost in a trance staring.

832
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 2>It was slack jawed, mouthed open, just staring into the brush.

833
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Terry nudges him with his knee. I was like, hey,

834
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 2>snap out of it. Snap out of it. Shakes him

835
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and Benson looks at him like, hey,

836
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, what the hell? And from what Benson said,

837
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:11.519
<v Speaker 2>when he was approaching the brush, everything went blank. He

838
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what was going on for a brief couple

839
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.599
<v Speaker 2>moments until Terry was nudging him, and then he realized

840
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 2>he was on.

841
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 3>His knees and was staring into the brush. So he

842
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>stands up. That was weird.

843
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>They both got the ebgbis, so they decided, hey, let's

844
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 2>not go into the brush. So let's just get back

845
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>over here to camp. I'm going to set up my

846
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>string cans and all that stuff again. We'll get our

847
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 2>sleep and continue on. They couldn't shake the creepy feeling.

848
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>From what Terry said, he is usually a calm, collected guy,

849
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.199
<v Speaker 2>and Benson even more. It takes a lot to get

850
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.639
<v Speaker 2>their pulse rate up. But from that point they were

851
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 2>high tension. They were arguing amongst each other for nothing

852
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 2>until they caught onto it and realized, hey, we're hyper sensitive.

853
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's not take it out on each other. We're here

854
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 2>in this together. As they're sitting there by their campfire.

855
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>They made a habit not staring at the campfire, but

856
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>letting it be in their peripheral so they could watch

857
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 2>the surroundings. They said it was really hard to even

858
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>attempt to go into the tent because it kept hearing

859
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 2>movement just out of eyesight, and it sounded like big movement,

860
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>but they could not pinpoint what it was. Benson, because

861
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 2>he hadn't really seen anything yet, reverted back to saying

862
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>that bear must be back, so let's be ready. Let's

863
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 2>just put it down. It hasn't lost interest in us,

864
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 2>so it's fixated on us. We need to put this

865
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 2>bear down. Terry knew it wasn't a bear. He had

866
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 2>seen it twice. Said I don't think that's a good

867
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 2>idea that we'll go shooting at this thing unless we

868
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>need to. Terry reiterates, Hey, Bency, I know you think

869
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a bear, but look this is what I saw.

870
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>First time I saw it was on two legs. Second

871
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 2>time I saw it was on two legs. It walked

872
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.239
<v Speaker 2>away on two legs. It swayed its arms like a man.

873
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 2>It was shaped like a man, a big man. Benson

874
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 2>starts to realize that Terry's not just trying to mess

875
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 2>with them. As he realizes that Terry's really not trying

876
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>to pull his leg about this whole man thing, he

877
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>starts asking the questions about his features and this and that,

878
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and again there wasn't much to add other than it

879
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 2>was shaped like a man, moved like a man, was

880
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.159
<v Speaker 2>on two feet and very large.

881
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 3>They hadn't seen any details.

882
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.000
<v Speaker 2>They had brought one flashlight with them because that time

883
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 2>of year, it wasn't a whole lot of darkness, just

884
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a handful of hours at night, and they were sleeping

885
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 2>during that time, and they only brought one because it's

886
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>just what all they needed in their own minds at

887
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 2>the time. So they get the flashlight out because this

888
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.320
<v Speaker 2>getting on into dark and they're still highly uncomfortable. They

889
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>can't even fathom going to lay down yet. Benson said

890
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 2>something struck and funny. As he was sitting there facing

891
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Terry to stand up and look behind you. Benson happened

892
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to have that flashlight. So he stands up and turns

893
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>on the flashlight, beaming in the same general direction that

894
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 2>he initially started walking. That fell in that weird trance.

895
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Right as soon as he turned on the flashlight, he

896
00:44:58.519 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 2>saw this thing.

897
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 3>He said. It had ash and gray skin. It was

898
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 3>squatted down.

899
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:08.519
<v Speaker 2>It was just about twenty feet outside of camp, where

900
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the firelight wasn't illuminating it at all.

901
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Bright red eyeshine. He said.

902
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>His face was real, real wrinkly, a lot of fine wrinkles.

903
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I've seen the same thing myself. They couldn't tell what

904
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.440
<v Speaker 2>color the eyes were because they were reflecting eyeshine, right

905
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 2>red eyeshine.

906
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 3>They said.

907
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:27.000
<v Speaker 2>The knees looked like they had some kind of calluses

908
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.280
<v Speaker 2>on them. The way it was squatted down, and its

909
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 2>hands were humungous because it put up one hand trying

910
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 2>to block the light a little bit, and started showing

911
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 2>its teeth. They said, big block teeth, like a horse.

912
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>The jaw looked really wide compared to the top of

913
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the head. The eyes were pretty wide set.

914
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 3>They said.

915
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>It almost looked like someone wearing a parka with a

916
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.480
<v Speaker 2>rough around it, because it looked like a round it

917
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>head with a hair rough around, like they were wearing

918
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 2>a hood with a fur rough around it. Once he

919
00:45:58.079 --> 00:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>beamed it and it put his hand up, showed us

920
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.760
<v Speaker 2>teeth a little bit. It stood up, they said. When

921
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>it stood up, all of its massiveness was shown in

922
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.559
<v Speaker 2>that moment, Terry was immediately on his feet, had his

923
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 2>rifle in his hand and was pointing at this thing.

924
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:13.679
<v Speaker 2>And as soon as he leveled his rifle at this

925
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:18.039
<v Speaker 2>saying it screamed. Benson fell down from the scream startled

926
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 2>the shit out him because he was in shock. Once

927
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.440
<v Speaker 2>he fell, there was no longer a flashlight on it.

928
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>As Terry went to shoot, Terry fires a shot off.

929
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>The screaming was still going on. It was all commotion.

930
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 2>So there's screaming, a gunshot fires off. Benson hits the ground,

931
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>scrambling to pick up the flashlight beams back over there again,

932
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and Terry standing next to him at this point saying,

933
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 2>holy sh I told you, and Bence's like, calmed down.

934
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 3>I seen it.

935
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Vince has said he thought he was going to have

936
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>a heart attack. He was struggling to calm himself down

937
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>so he didn't have a heart attack. He was in

938
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 2>his late fifties at the time. He felt that surgeon

939
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 2>not adrenaline, like a ton of bricks on his chest.

940
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 3>He calms down.

941
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 2>They hear noises way off in the distance. The guests

942
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 2>made a couple hundred yards scream, sound like stuff breaking

943
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>trees breaking and all this stuff, and they didn't know

944
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:13.280
<v Speaker 2>what in hell to do. It's just them two on

945
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>this creek bed with a tent on a couple of firearms.

946
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:18.800
<v Speaker 2>They were dumb struck.

947
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 3>They did not know what to do. Their meeting point

948
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 3>was days away.

949
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 2>They still had approximately four days left before their friend

950
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be going back and forth on the

951
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>portion of the river to pick them up. Where their

952
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 2>designated meetup point wasn't so. Vinson said that him and

953
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Terry sat there back to back after they collected some firewood,

954
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.440
<v Speaker 2>shouldered or shoulder with the flashlights as much as they could,

955
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 2>and they kept feeding the fire in the darkest point

956
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.800
<v Speaker 2>of the night, back to back the whole time. They said,

957
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 2>three separate times this thing came in on them, almost

958
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>like probing the boundaries, probing how close they could get.

959
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 2>They suspect that Terry really pissed it off, They said

960
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it when they saw it these few times, as it

961
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:07.320
<v Speaker 2>would almost like press towards them, they would pop off

962
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>some shots, not trying to kill it, but trying to

963
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 2>wish shots passed it to scare it away. Every time

964
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>they would do that, it kept looking like it was

965
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.800
<v Speaker 2>favoring one arm. It wasn't using it like they thought

966
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.320
<v Speaker 2>it would, so they suspected that maybe Terry when he

967
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 2>fired when Benson fell down, that maybe it struck its arm.

968
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 2>They still don't know, and probably never will. There's no

969
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 2>way to figure that out. So as this happened, they

970
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 2>said three to four times, they were getting really worn

971
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.480
<v Speaker 2>out by the last time it happened, they said. The

972
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 2>last time it happened, it came in from the backside

973
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.599
<v Speaker 2>of their tent to where they didn't have eyes on

974
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it at the moment. They kept looking at the spot

975
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 2>where it kept coming from, emerging from the direction that

976
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Benson had gotten a little hypnotized and off to their

977
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 2>right hand side. So all of a sudden, off to

978
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 2>their immediate left where the tent was, the tent goes flying.

979
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Ventson said that this thing grabbed it by the top

980
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>and flung their tit away in the direction directly away

981
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:10.079
<v Speaker 2>from them. It just flew out of sight, he said.

982
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.639
<v Speaker 2>It happened so fast, he said it had they been

983
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>inside the tent, they probably would have flown thirty yards

984
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 2>it flung, and with it being a nylon tip, it

985
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't go all that far. But it was fast, and

986
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it was very powerful. The way it was assitched and

987
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 2>ripped out of the ground. The guidelines were all snapped

988
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:30.039
<v Speaker 2>in a heartbeat. The canned stringline that was attached a

989
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:33.320
<v Speaker 2>tent went fling that lane, flinging after it into the

990
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 2>water and stuff. And so they stand there shot for

991
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a second as this thing is standing there as well,

992
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 2>looking right at them. They said it was very forceful,

993
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:43.639
<v Speaker 2>like it was challenging them.

994
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 3>They said.

995
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 2>At this point they opened up directly at it, started

996
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.079
<v Speaker 2>firing shots, and after the first couple of shots broke,

997
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>this thing was already hauling ass away.

998
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 3>They said.

999
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It was heading due south when they stopped firing. And

1000
00:49:56.239 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 2>so they sat there and sat there. Ben's and picked

1001
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.480
<v Speaker 2>up smoking for a little bit. That night he got

1002
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:06.039
<v Speaker 2>a cigarette or two from Terry stretched out. They don't drink,

1003
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:08.880
<v Speaker 2>so they didn't have any little party favors or anything

1004
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 2>like that along with the mini brown water. And so

1005
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 2>they sat until it was light enough in the morning

1006
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and they started heading due west. And that was the

1007
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 2>morning of day seven that they started heading due west.

1008
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 2>They made it to the river after about five hours.

1009
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, as they were traveling and as they

1010
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 2>got to the river, they heard this screams and weird

1011
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 2>yells periodically to the south of them. You couldn't tell

1012
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.400
<v Speaker 2>how far, but it was loud. And so as they

1013
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.800
<v Speaker 2>got to the river's edge and they were sitting there,

1014
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.719
<v Speaker 2>an elderly man and an elderly lady skipped by and

1015
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.760
<v Speaker 2>they waved, and they were trying to flag them down.

1016
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 2>The elders waved and continued on, and they're like, shit,

1017
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 2>if there was someone out on the river, there'll be

1018
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:52.199
<v Speaker 2>someone else out on the river.

1019
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.559
<v Speaker 3>So they sat there a good few hours.

1020
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And then a little while later after that couple hours,

1021
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 2>actually a younger guy in the same skip that the

1022
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 2>elderly people were in came zipping down river, spotted them,

1023
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 2>turned around and come up. They told them who they were,

1024
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>who their friend was that dropped them off. They happened

1025
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to be relative. Said, hey, just get in. What's going on?

1026
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.159
<v Speaker 2>You guys weren't supposed to be ready for a few

1027
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 2>more days. They tell him what happened. The younger guy

1028
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 2>just chuckled, didn't respond to it, left it alone. Benson

1029
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 2>said that when he talked to his friend that had

1030
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 2>dropped him off the week before, for them to start

1031
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.800
<v Speaker 2>this journey. It wasn't until he was meeting back up

1032
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 2>with his friend that he remembered the advice his friend

1033
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 2>gave him, and he blew it off. It meant nothing

1034
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 2>in the moment, until after the factor his friend told

1035
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 2>him his native friend told him do not mess with

1036
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the Harryman and left it at that. Benson thought nothing

1037
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 2>of it, didn't even mention it to Terry. Didn't even

1038
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 2>think nothing about the harry Man. It wasn't until everything

1039
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>was done he remembered that, I want to thank Benson

1040
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 2>for the effort.

1041
00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:58.360
<v Speaker 3>I want to thank Terry.

1042
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.559
<v Speaker 2>It took a while to get this coordinated because they

1043
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:03.639
<v Speaker 2>live in two different states and have two different lives.

1044
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 2>At this point, they're still good friends. They didn't lose

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<v Speaker 2>their friendship or anything like that. Thank you guys for

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<v Speaker 2>joining me. We'll catch you on the next one built