Speaker 1: All start Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied. Off the Bench,
Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
Kine Studio.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two O TV
here on this Monday morning, Jake, Flannelandro k.
Speaker 2: Off here with you.
Speaker 3: Broke down l shoes went over South Carolina and our
number one and I'm sure we'll find our way back
to the Tigers here, but certainly want to break down
the New Orleans Saints as they go down to the
Patriots twenty five to nineteen inside.
Speaker 2: Of the Superdome yesterday.
Speaker 3: Let's look at a tell the tape here in this
one first downs Patriots had nineteen, Saints had seventeen. Third
down the Patriots six of thirteen, the Saints only three
four nine. The Patriots also converted one of their two
fourth down attempts. Total plays fifty eight to fifty one
in favor of the Patriots. Total yards three thirty three
to two ninety six in favor of the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Yards per play.
Speaker 3: Actually, the Saints did have a little bit better average
five point eight to five point seven passing two sixty
for the Patriots to twenty three for the Saints. No
interceptions by either quarterback. Yards per pass actually pretty high
for both nine point six for the Patriots, eight four
or the Saints. Rushing seventy three for both teams. Not
a great day on the ground for either team. Patriots
only two point four yards per rush, the Saints three
point two.
Speaker 2: Yards per rush.
Speaker 3: Time of possession thirty one forty four for the Patriots
twenty eight to sixteen for the Saints. Penalties eleven for
sixty five for the Patriots, eight for sixty seven for
the Saints. Now, the Saints did have a turnover another
yet another fumble by Juwan Johnson, which we'll certainly get
to here in this breakdown. Kind of the same feeling
I had the first couple of weeks of the season. Man,
There's there's.
Speaker 2: Good, lot of good. There's so much good in there.
Speaker 4: But it's wild that we came probably away from the
Saints loss feeling better than LSU win.
Speaker 2: Is that weird? Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 4: But it's so close, man, it's that's I mean, of
course it didn't count. I get it. So I don't
like crush me on that.
Speaker 3: So I was talking to somebody about the Miss game
against Alabama, which we'll get to the full slate of
college games too, but it was like, they're making the plays,
but they're not making like the plays that win you games.
But there's plays, there's plays being made. And I thought
Spencer was great again twenty of twenty six two twenty seven,
eight point seven yards per attempt, didn't have a touchdown,
did not have an interception. But I thought he played
well enough. I thought the protection was better than it
has been. It's good enough, right, certainly when you didn't
run the ball efficient at all. Yeah, right, and still
that So now it's all going to fall on the
passing game. And look, Chris olave stat line's gonna look great.
Six for ninety eight. Had had a fifty three yarder
right there at the beginning of the game, went up
one time and made a play. But after he made
the play, you know, fum the football away.
Speaker 2: It's just time and time again.
Speaker 5: There's plays to be made by guys that you want
to be your receiver, one top tier kind of guy
in the league, your go to playmaker, and those plays
are still not being made. There's plays being made, but
there's difference, as I said, between plays being made and
the plays that win you football games and the plays
that when you football games are there for the taken
and they are not making those plays, and it's so frustrating.
It has to be frustrating for Spencer Rattler, because you
make one of those plays, you win the game.
Speaker 4: Watching the Saints, this year's let's throw the outline, let's
say the Seattle game out of there. I know it's
part of the part of the whole deal. But like
we've been, the Saints have been competitive and relevant and
with chances to win each one of these games. But
at some point in the National Football League, when you
have professional football players, somebody's got to make a damn play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're playing at.
Speaker 4: A little bit of a talent deficit. I mean, it's
the National Football everyone's a professional, but there's a talent
deficit there for most of the games. Not one canna
say all the games, but for most of the games
you have a young quarterback that is playing extremely efficient,
extremely accurate with the ball, protecting the ball. Sure, you
might be able to say, hey, let's put it up,
let's put it into danger a little bit more, try
to like push the ball. I don't I don't agree
with that, but at some point you have to rely
on your playmakers, your veterans, to make a damn play,
and it's just not happening. You know, you have the
play that you you would love for lave to make.
It's it would be a tough play in the end zone.
Still goes down as a drop. You see people making
that all day yesterday. Watch the highlights. Watch watch uh
Chris Berman tonight on Monday Night Football doing his you know,
really fast breakdown of all the games. You'll see that
play being made routinely, routinely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: In the in the NFL, Juwan Johnson makes a good catch.
Fumbles it was it a fumble. It's not for us
to decide. Count it on the field. Don't the ball, Yeah,
don't let it come out of your arms. Now, I'll
give New England credit. They are elite at punching the ball. Yeah,
like they are good. They go for it. The Patriots.
Speaker 3: I watched the Dolphins, Like every tackle like it is
taught now, like the.
Speaker 2: Peanut punch is taught around the league.
Speaker 4: And these defenders are really good that like New England
takes some pride, Rabes loves. Yeah, and let me tell
you that New England team is a good, good football team,
well coached. They got New England's got it looks a
lot different from when Belichick was there, of course, but
they got an attitude. They are well coached. It means
a lot to that team. You could tell there are
very good football team.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: They started out the season, they had a loss to
the Raiders. First game, they lost to the Steelers third
game of the season. Man, they came and beat They
beat the Bills twenty three, twenty They beat the Panthers
who were three and three somehow beat them forty two thirteen.
Like they're a good team with a young quarterback that
it's really good. Yeah, but Spencer Ratler stuck in there
with him. Like the two big deep throws that Drake
hid guys are wide open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just see the pass. Russ couldn't get there.
Speaker 4: And you can't expect defensive back the backfield to like
withstand all day long, Right, you can't do that wide
open some big plays. But like you're sitting there and
everyone's we talked about the announcers talking about how great
Drake may is like if Spencer.
Speaker 2: Ratler had a did they talk about it? If Spencer Ratler.
Speaker 4: Had a first or second round draft pick like in
his back pocket, Like if he had that, everybody would
be saying the sact like this guy's a franchise got now, No,
got to make the plays when it matters. But that
and that's what the Saints are lacking from it. And
that's a team thing. It is a whole offense situation.
You have to make like you can't just like be
look good and competitive the whole game. You got to
make the plays when it matters, when it's a this
is this play right here means you win or lose.
You got to make those plays, which they are just
failing to do so right now. And I think it's
it's not just one person. It's not one play call,
it's not this or that, it's just as a whole
you have to get that attitude. And that's the attitude
that they're missing, and they need somebody on offense. Yeah
that when the game's online, that's the guy we're going
to and he's gonna make it play right now, missing
that that game changing, game winning playmaker.
Speaker 3: And look, you've tried you've tried to trade for a receiver,
multiple receivers. Now one is only available. The other one's
injured that you traded for. But you've tried to bring
some guys in, but you don't have that guy right now.
Speaker 2: You've got good players. I'm not saying they're bad players.
Like Chris o.
Speaker 3: Love is a better pro than I was. He makes plays,
but it's not about making plays. It's about making the
plays that win you football games. And Matt's right, like
when we turn on Chris twim Blank Berman, yeah, and
he's you know, yeah, he's going through his little two
minute drill.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You see that play routinely, like and we've seen it here.
It would betj and Moleague in Jefferson and Chase like
we saw in college when the ball was in the air,
you knew who was coming down with it right every time,
like it's like, oh, if it's close, if it's in
the catch radius, Malik Nighbors coming down with that football.
It's not only just not seeing those plays, but like
the one that Alive missed in the end zone, that
was a dime man. That's a great throw by Spencer Rattler,
And the broadcast is like, oh, look at the dB
excellent job of getting his hand. I was like, he didn't,
I bro like his finger might have whispered to the
arm of Chris Olave. That's a play. You got him, mate,
even if he was holding your arm. You still go
back and watch Taite's Tampa Bay Buccaneers Johnson Test.
Speaker 2: Johnson plays catch.
Speaker 3: Fingertips on the back end of the football and came
up with that catch.
Speaker 4: That's Test Johnsons Johnson, the three, the other three. He's
the fifth receiver. He's a fifth receiption. Okay, so the
Buccaneers number five receiver.
Speaker 3: I was just assuming that he caught the back end
of the football with his fingertips and came down with
it for a Yes, he did like a cartwell into
a back flip with a twistly so and what go
watch Jamar Chase yesterday with Laka throwing it to him.
Speaker 4: Made like an inexplicable cast, like how did he catch it?
How did he? Why is he the one that ended
up with that ball? And it was I promise you
not even near as good.
Speaker 2: A throw as rattler head, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So just it just it's frustrating it's got to be
frustrated for the offense because I know there's effort there
and it's just for whatever reason, they can't make the play.
And they got to They got to find a playmaker.
And you're not going to find a playmaker unless you
do show signs of life.
Speaker 2: We talked about. You don't want to be drafted first.
You want to win games.
Speaker 4: You want to show positive You want to say show
that the arrow is pointing upwards for the New Orleans
Saints so you can attract that person. I don't care
if it's ten free agents fifteen, I'd rather get one
one play maker because that's kind of what you're missing
right now.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I agree. You've got some good players. You have some
good receivers, but you're missing that number one. Everybody in
the stadium knows on third and seven who you're going to,
but it doesn't matter because he's gonna get open. If
he's not open, the quarterback's gonna throw him open. He's
gonna make the play. You are missing that because we
talk about the play in the end zone. But even
you're going down the field, you got the football right,
you're going to try to go take the lead and
you're looking for that guy to make that play in.
Speaker 2: That situation multiple times.
Speaker 3: Then, I mean you mentioned Juwan Johnson, like, I know
you're a tight end, but you're in there because you
already passed catching tight end. You played receiver in college.
Like you gotta hold onto the ball. So those plays
they gotta be made. They have to be made at
the Saints want to turn that corner.
Speaker 4: And not only guy that makes the plays, but guys
that are in that room that elevate play of the
other receivers as well. Right, Like, like I said, you
got talented guys. Is Tesz Johnson, the fifth receiver for
the Tampa Bay Bucks, more talented than Chicha he like,
is he more talented than a lot? No, he's not.
But you got leaders in there. You got guys that
make those plays, so you want to make those plays.
Speaker 2: Like it's mind. See so tes Johnson.
Speaker 3: Ran a four or five to one at the combine
and he is one hundred and what sixty pounds.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe one hundred and sixty pounds Twice I think
he said one hundred.
Speaker 7: I think Baker said he's one hundred and forty.
Speaker 4: Told that celebration up to it was one of the
more impressive end zone celebrations I've seen.
Speaker 6: Well, that's why you fell in the draft because of
the I mean, you know, he's not a four to
three guy, and he's also like one and fifty pounds.
Speaker 3: So at the Senior Bowl he measured at five to
nine and some change, one hundred and fifty four pounds
and he runs a four to five to one. So
it's not too much different between what Flynn and I friend,
it is one hundred and fifty four pounds five nine
and some change, and he's making those plays. I'm not
hating on I mean, he was a good college player.
There it is you're watching, but look at that play.
Here we go, I watch this. This is the most
impressive part.
Speaker 4: Flip with a twist. I wasn't even when it is
a three sixties twist.
Speaker 2: Good for you, Bud.
Speaker 3: You might run a four or five one, but I
pull every muscle my body doing that.
Speaker 7: But that ball touched Crystal's hands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, like he had to go. He had to
go find a way to get his hands on that ball.
The quarterback placed it on Crystal Love's hands.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 6: Wide receiver one, though disappears a lot of times.
Speaker 2: I mean he'll he'll have flash games and then he disappeared.
You don't have the one.
Speaker 7: He only has like six targets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean what four?
Speaker 3: I feel it was better than they use Rashidi Heed
to clear a lot of stuff out to route contraence. Yeah,
I get it, he's your speed guy, but it's like
put Brandon Cooks in that spot to clean stuff out.
Speaker 2: He's so fast enough.
Speaker 3: He had that the twenty twenty one yard or there
was a final drive, final drive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's just that third down the game.
Speaker 6: So well, right, I mean he has the fifty yard couch.
He had like four catches in a row on like
the first two drives. You're like, okay, you start in
a corner, two drops and turnover.
Speaker 3: Well what started as I was like, okay, there's a
lot of good.
Speaker 2: Now I'm mad.
Speaker 8: But and Juwan Johnson needs to get off the team
and just stick to TikTok.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what he's a TikTok.
Speaker 7: Him and his wife are TikTokers.
Speaker 3: You know what Spencer Rattler's grade was on pro football foots.
Speaker 7: It's gonna make me mad.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say eighty seven. Okayandre I was.
Speaker 7: Thinking like eighty seven eighty.
Speaker 4: Six, Matthew, that sounds about right to me.
Speaker 2: Ninety one oh ninety one.
Speaker 3: The next closest grade on offense for the Saints Kelvin
Banks at sixty nine point eight. I love Banks, but
I know that Flynn and I are getting accused of
like Spencer Ratler. Love all the time and pumping sanche.
I get, but I have nothing to gain from talking
good about Spencer Ratler. I don't know Spencer Ratler. He
didn't play for LSU. He's not from Louisiana. I'm just
telling you on tape. He's making winning plays and winning decisions,
and he's actually doing a hell of a job right
now being the quarterback of the Saints.
Speaker 2: He just needs somebody to help him out a bit. Right.
Speaker 3: You get seventy something yards from the ground game, you
have your receivers that have a chance to make a
play aren't making a play now. The pass protection was
better this game, certainly than it has been. Your quarterback
is grading out at ninety one and your next highest
grade sixty nine.
Speaker 2: He need some help.
Speaker 3: You have a quarterback that is like in the middle
of the pack. In the NFL good right now. I mean,
I mean he's not in the twenties. I can tell
you that now, and you have the ability to go
help him out, and you're just not doing it.
Speaker 2: Yea boy? Ten seconds? Any thoughts? Yeah, I mean if
you help him out, he's top fifteen right He's a
top fifteen.
Speaker 9: Quarterback right now, if you're helping him out.
Speaker 4: Anything else a game either. But I know quarterbacks and
I know quarterback play and yeah more I don't know TV.
Well mean, yeah, boy off the bench.
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Speaker 1: What time locked in on ls you Football twenty four seven?
You're listening to off the bench.
Speaker 3: Slide slip slip stop, slide stop, Come on.
Speaker 2: Right right to the prod.
Speaker 5: Come on.
Speaker 2: Damp stop.
Speaker 3: This was sixth grade Ridgewood Middle School.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Ridgewood Raiders kidding me.
Speaker 4: Speaking of this song. I we took our kids to
kids did the roll. We took them the roller rink yesterday,
the old skating rink.
Speaker 2: Where is that at? There is one, there's one here
in Baton Rouge. Where is it at? As you.
Speaker 4: Kind of like by the like ye like on the
other side of the airline like airline ish on the
women's hospital side skating galaxy. He's been there since. I
was like, let me tell you, I never knew about it.
I didn't know had an establishment that brought me back
to my childhood. But let me tell you. We took
the kids there who've been kind of skating around the
living room do like learning how to skate. My little
girl goes like two round, like two loops around first
time in a skating rink. She looks at us, Me
and Lacey. She looks a bunch of dress. She's like,
is this a dream? Like, yep, sure is this is
It's incredible. I just remember I remember those feelings at
the skating rink as a child, listening to a lot
of jock jams. Obviously, Yeah, but man, what an establishment.
I think we're gonna have a little birthday party there soon.
Speaker 6: You play some dnim yep, Skate Galaxy in the dinhim
with skate Heaven yep. And they were both like, we
had many parties. So we went there and they kids
brought the skates and they started skating around. About ten
fifteen minutes into it, I'm like, I'm a little jealous.
How about I rant some skates myself?
Speaker 2: Now? I ranted some skates. Skates are blades.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm more of a blade guy. Yeah, but uh,
I didn't know those were an option. They were kind
of in the back room. So I got skates. It
was a dull toll that the toe break. Yeah, I
wasn't great, not as great as I remember I remember.
But like I said, more of a blade guy. Yeah,
obviously I've been cutting those turns. I'll be foot over
foot turning, you know what I'm talking about, being those knees,
get those arms, pumping foot over foot, making you feel
so cool, so sweet. So it didn't go well, it
was okay. I mean, like I didn't fall, but I'm
not going to say I didn't get close to falling.
But it's a different, different ballgame on roller skates. So
who had a worst day?
Speaker 3: You are James Franklin or Trent Dilfer or Trent Bray.
Speaker 7: I had not James Franklin. He's getting fifty million dollars
to walk true.
Speaker 2: A good days.
Speaker 7: Actually I read I rather they were kind of talking
about it. So maybe it's not true that.
Speaker 2: He's going to get the full fit right to have
like a settlement or something.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, it's true, Like, look fifty million dollars is
fifty million dollars. But also it's an incredible amount, an
amount that I'll never ever, ever ever come close to achieving.
But we all have egos as players and coaches, and
it hurts. Like I do radio with Jimbo every Tuesday.
He got seventy something million, and if you asked him, hey, coach,
if you could turn in that seventy million for like.
Speaker 2: Two natties, did you do it?
Speaker 3: He'd be like absolutely, so, yeah, he had a good
day as far as his bank account. And you know,
if I was James Franklin, well, actually not because he's
not won a championship. If I was Jimbo, I tell
Jimbo this all the time. I was like, you've got
a national championship. If they gave me that seventy million,
you'd never hear from me again, Like you'd have to
come find me.
Speaker 2: What are you doing radio with Jacobs?
Speaker 3: No, But for like James Franklin, like he's not done
anything close to that, so you know, he gets fifty
million to go away.
Speaker 2: But like, imagine right before.
Speaker 3: And I said this on Twitter yesterday, but imagine right
before the Oregon game college game days there Saban's in
the lion costume, and I was like, Hey, Penn State's
gonna lose this game in overtime to It's gonna be
a great game. They're gonna lose in overtime, and James
Franklin's gonna be fired. Two weeks later, knowing UCLA and
Northwestern was coming up on their schedule. I don't think
anybody in the America would have taken that bet. If
I would have said after the Northwestern game, knowing you
lost your first game in overtime to the Oregon Ducks,
he's gonna be fired. But you go out there and
you lose to UCLA and you lose to Northwestern, they said, all, no,
hell no, we got to pay you fifty million dollars
on it to get up out of here.
Speaker 8: Well, now they just got to find somebody that's gonna
keep them at the same level. James Franklin was or
like better because we make fun of him a lot,
because we like it's true, he's really bad against top
ten teams, and we hate that They've always been in
the top twenty five all the time, and they almost
made it to the National Championship Game last season. So
you're gonna have to find somebody that's gonna do that,
or better, you're you paid fifty mili to get that
guy that's doing that out of there. You've got to
pay a lot more money to get somebody else.
Speaker 7: To do that for you.
Speaker 2: You always ask who you're gonna get this better?
Speaker 6: Like I've seen a bunch of seen a bunch of
LSU fans clowning man at Penn State took Brian Kelly
off our hands and be get you're gonna get like
I get it.
Speaker 2: People are frustrated.
Speaker 3: Penn State's gonna get somebody like at least name wise. Yeah,
it's gonna be a big name, or it's gonna make
a lot of sense. It's a good job. It's in
the middle of nowhere. If you've ever tried to cover
a game there, plane trains and automobiles just just to
get there.
Speaker 2: It's in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7: Wait, really, the state the state of penn.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I feel like I could have got somebody with that, like,
oh really, Oh where's that through Let's see the actual
actual town.
Speaker 7: I could not even tell you where it's at.
Speaker 2: I'm excited about this, honest, we.
Speaker 8: We just talked about it last week. Though, like people
always think the grass is greener on the other side, Park.
Speaker 4: Pennsylvania, it's going to be located in State College, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a very that's the town name is exactly
what it is.
Speaker 2: State College, Pennsylvania. Is that what it is?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what they call it, like when they're in
their player I always thought it was a Nia University.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's the yeah of college station. Yeah, that's easy
to State College.
Speaker 4: Anniversary show. We will give James Franklin a proper goodbye?
Speaker 3: Are we going to give Trent deill f and Trent
Bray one or just James Franklin.
Speaker 2: I don't think we can do three eulogys in one show.
Did G six then get Nila? You av in Oregon
States on the moment? Maine that one? Thank god? Four
penn State eight.
Speaker 3: I mean you talk about the expectation they had this year,
number two team. The media picked him to win the
Big Ten, which never made sense, but they did. And
then all of a sudden, you are in you know,
week seven, week eight of college football season, and the
wheels are completely off and now you've got an interim
head coach and now back quarterback too right, Yeah, because
Drew Ali's out for the year. It's it's bad, bad,
It's in a bad spot, and there's gonna be a
lot of names attached to it. Chris Signette's going to
be attached to it. I saw Manny Diaz attached to it.
Brian Kelly's name is attached to it. Who else did
we see? We know Campbell, Matt Ruhle, and Matt Campbell.
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell's turned down so many jobs. Mike Tomlin, I
saw Mike Tomlin, Mat Cambell. Matt Campbell has turned down
a lot of jobs.
Speaker 3: But just like Luke Fickle who at one time did
turn down a lot of jobs, he was waiting for
Wisconsin now that has not worked out, and Luke Figgel
might be next. But maybe this is the job that
will get him out of high.
Speaker 2: He has not been offered a Penn State.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's been offered you know, like they've talked
to him, Michigan State, you know, Virginia teams like that.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been offered to Pitton State.
Speaker 4: That's really interesting to me is I don't know if
there is one sure first round quarterback from the preseason
that is playing at a top three or four round
draft pick level right now from the guys that were
supposed to be there, Like, who's right now getting like
a top three or four round pick from the guys
that are like these are like the Heisman favorites, right.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the group of Drew Aller, k Klebnigna, Smeyer.
Speaker 4: DJ Leonora Sellers. Yeah, like all these guys were thought
to be Heisman favorites. You know, maybe not all first
round picks, but like the top guys. Now, which one
of those are still the top guys? Which one of
those are draftable?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: None of the players are in the top ten when
it comes to passing yards and not even not even
close the first gosh, no, I mean you got to
go down. You gotta go down like twenty ninth in
the country for kay Klubnick to find.
Speaker 2: His name on this list.
Speaker 3: Just pass yards, yeah, just passing yards because you got
names like now.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Materier was also mentioned in that same breath, but you know, yeah,
I put up six.
Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't like the decision to play him,
but it was announced pre game he was playing.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, he got a big
ass screw in his hand.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know the thumb injury that most guys sit
out five weeks. He set out two that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's built different. Yeah, that was my whole. That
was my whole.
Speaker 3: Points like you got to take a look at that
and be like, okay, Like we got a lot still
left on this schedule.
Speaker 2: We can lose two games, and if with this schedule,
if we go ten and two, we're in. It ain't
even a question. We're in.
Speaker 3: And like, now, like what damage have you done to
not just your resume, but what's his thumb and what's
the health of his thumb now.
Speaker 4: For the rest of the season. It's a big question
mark for you. He booger McFarlane on I don't know
what game. Maybe it was like one of the cutaways
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Speaker 7: We all think it, but we don't say it.
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of big moments in college football certainly a big weekend,
and you had some big, big upsets, even ones that shouldn't,
you know, be considered you know, gigantic blinking lights. I
can't believe this happened because it was a top ten
team in the country. But Indiana takes down Oregon. So
number seven Indiana thirty, number three Oregon twenty in Eugene.
Indiana is real good and Indiana was good last year,
but Mendoza changes the math. It can take them from
good to great and they are a great football team.
And that's one of the biggest statement wins that I
can remember the last couple of years in college football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the biggest one of the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you could probably say Oregon first, Penn
State was I guess before that, but this is a
big changed Yeah that changed real fast. But yeah, you
could say that this one is the biggest statement win
of the season just because big time top ten opponent.
Like we knew Indiana was that Cinderella story, like that
fun team to cheer for a last year, but like,
could they maintain that? Then out of the blue, like
I kind of alluded to last year, had all these
quarterbacks hyped up before the season, hyped up before the season,
it is going to be the Heisman contenders.
Speaker 2: These are going to be this for that.
Speaker 4: Well, wait a minute, this Indiana, this Kirk Signetti let
Indiana team has the.
Speaker 2: Best quarterback in college football.
Speaker 4: And a guy that is absolutely bowling, and they go
into Oregon with all the momentum game day. There they
got Dan Lanning taking a shirt off with Pat McAfee
before the sun even rises, a lot of energy. You
got a duck right on the back of a motorcycle.
You got that Oregon crowd lit up. You got Phil
Knight doing whatever he's got to do with the uniforms
over there. Indiana goes in there, he said, as I.
Speaker 3: Believe they're really walking to your trap and take your trap.
Speaker 2: I don't know, never heard that. That's what the kids said,
That's what they did.
Speaker 7: They say that, so Huggins. Yeah, people still still say that. Okay,
good good, No, I mean, I I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if I'm the worse.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, please don't. My two year old daughter says
that now that yeah, because her brothers do good for her. Yes,
stop that.
Speaker 7: I still don't get it.
Speaker 2: So I still don't get it either. It's okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana all the way up now to number three
and the a people, which they should be. They should
absolutely be number three. That is the biggest win. You
go on the road, you beat number three by double digits,
you should be number three. Ohio State takes care of
Illinois exactly how you thought that.
Speaker 2: Game was going to go? Thirty four to sixteen?
Speaker 3: Ole Miss though struggle with Washington State, a bad Washington
State team, a team that lost by over forty to
North Texas. Ole Miss hangs on for victory twenty four
to twenty one. Now you know, you have a game
like they had against LSU. Certainly that's who they cannsider
their biggest rival, and you put so much emotion and
stock into that one game, you're likely to have a
bad performance.
Speaker 2: But this was even worse than that.
Speaker 3: I mean, they were thirty something point favorites and they
hold on and find a way to win by three
against Wazoo at home, and now they got to get
ready to go on the road to Georgia and Oklahoma
and back to back games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean q Romeo Crenell, they are who he
thought they were, like Miss. That is Dennis Green Dennis Green.
That's what I said.
Speaker 2: You know that? Mm hm, whould I say Dennis Green? Nope,
he didn't. It's a Romeo Carnell. Yeah, we let them
off the hook, let them up they are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about ole Miss.
Wouldn't really high on them going to the game, and
we played them.
Speaker 3: I mean after the game, I said, I still think
ole Miss loses three games, almost lost State.
Speaker 2: Also see clean it up.
Speaker 8: This is who Oregon has beat as an organ Would
they have beat Oregon State, who is O for seven great,
Northwestern Oklahoma State who also fired their coach, Montana State,
And then yeah, that's it, Montana State, Oklahoma State, Northwestern
Oregon State, Penn State obviously. So that's kind of what
I was looking at whenever I was thinking about the thing.
But then I was like, I don't actually even really
know too much about Indiana other than Fernando Mendoza, and
people are high on them.
Speaker 10: But they had that good win, like huge win over
Illinois sixty three to ten. But yeah, crazy, So.
Speaker 6: Many people have talked yesterday about, oh well, Penn States
are just gonna go get Kurt Signetty. I think Indiana
is a better football program than Penn State. Right now,
they have the donor backing. You see all the money
he brought in for an Indo Mendoza in the transfer portal.
Why would Kurtzignetti go to Penn State. I think right
now Indiana is willing to match whatever money they offer him.
Speaker 3: I mean there's levels to this deal too, and I
mean Penn State's going to have more resources than Indiana.
Indiana historically is the worst college football team in the
history of college football by losses, so they're good. I
mean Penn State is still Penn State. Indiana is still Indiana.
Now what they're doing is incredible. But yeah, if Penn
State comes a call, and I think it does change
it a bit, not as much as it used to
to your point, but it's still Penn State over Indiana.
Texas A and M victorious over Florida thirty four to seventeen,
they close out the fourth quarter. You've got Texas over Oklahoma.
We mentioned that when twenty three to six. We mentioned
Alabama twenty seven to twenty four over Maszou. I want
to take a break, though, because I want to break
down the time out or their class app from Kirby
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Speaker 1: Two blocked in on L s U Football twenty four
to seven. You're listening to off the bench.
Speaker 2: You they make my tacky. I'm working then, but hey,
I'm looking down. You do the the every single week. Hey,
you blenty for what's more? And then I can comes
on my way to say I play to do with
shampoo shoulder Joe. But right up, Rado what I made playing?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 5: Keep this?
Speaker 2: So you've put it? What I'm just again? Monkeep it
all right.
Speaker 3: Welcome back gain O TV live from the Raizorcaines studio.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Was it a time out or was it a flap?
In the Georgia Auburn matchup. Georgia wins twenty to ten.
It was Auburn in the first half, I.
Speaker 2: Mean all over them.
Speaker 3: Then there was a call that looked like a touchdown,
called it a fumble. Georgia returned the fumble for a touchdown,
but they said, no, it's a fumble.
Speaker 2: But you're down hot mess. A hot mess.
Speaker 3: Alburn hurts somebody in the league office, and I don't
know who, but they have been getting bad calls all
year long, and uh it's you know, in that case,
it's got to be one or the other. And in
the Kirby case of was it a clap or was
it a time out, it's got to be one or
the other. You don't just say, ah, you know what,
let's just let's reset the ball, start to play clock.
We're all good, Matthew Clayton Flynn. Was he calling a timeout?
Speaker 2: Look?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but wait a minute, are you telling me you
don't try that? Like a ladger said during the break,
that's not the most efficient way to clap.
Speaker 2: If you try to clap like that, no sound really
comes out. I'm trying. I'm trying, guys, trying to do it.
I got big hands. We're not team up here. You're
talking about You just opened palm your claps. Then it
makes a noise.
Speaker 7: Oh you do it with your wondering how people he's
got noise to make come out.
Speaker 2: Of their hands. You take your hands.
Speaker 7: I've been doing this the whole time.
Speaker 2: Put both your hands out like this, Just turn towards
each other and go towards there. It is so much louder.
It's so much louder than doing it with the finger.
Speaker 6: And the best part about this, if you like, go
back and watch the broadcast when Kirby's pleading his case.
Speaker 3: He's clapping normal, He's like, no, no, no, he and
my guy less Miles clap like you weren't clapping like
that a second ago, so that's not how you clap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you know it's yeah, argue for your team,
like if you get away with it.
Speaker 3: But it's gotta be one of the other though, for
the officials, either you give them the time out or
it's a delay a game if you weren't calling time out,
it's got to be one or the other. We're not
just gonna be like, ah, you know what, hey, let's
reset the ball the clock, like, let's go herb.
Speaker 2: You were very passionate on like it's like it's like
referees in look at him arguing. Come on. He put
about his face too, that's so funny.
Speaker 3: And then he tried to cup his hand a little
bit to make it like a little bit less obvious.
Speaker 2: And look, Kirby's my boy, he's our boy. That's not
a great look for him, not a good look for
him at all.
Speaker 4: But if you're the ref, just like any level little
league wherever you are, even if you're wrong, just call
what you see, call what you see, no one could
argue if you can explain that this is what I saw,
whether you whether it was right or wrong, if you
saw him call a time out, what.
Speaker 1: You was.
Speaker 2: Like, we just explained to you. And then that's not
how you clap. You can see his lips same time, yeah,
and then the lips. Oh boy, how fun is that?
I mean.
Speaker 3: Georgia finds a way to win the game ugly, ugly
first half where they had less than thirty yards of
total offense. They come back, they win the game twenty
to ten over Auburn. But a couple of calls, certainly
they're gonna be talked about. And that's a couple of
games there for the Auburn Tigers, who are three and
three oh and three in the SEC.
Speaker 2: They'd like to have back, so good clap. That was
the worst clap in the clap count.
Speaker 3: Rounding out real quick here, Tennessee takes care of Arkansas
thirty four to thirty one. Great after by Arkansas. We
knew it would be. But Tennessee holds on. Now they
get ready for Alabama. Georgia Tech takes down Virginia Tech.
USC Big Boys Michigan, Big Boys, Michigan. I did not
have that when I thought Michigan would be highly competitive
in that game. Dave Portnoy, who rough day for you?
Notre Dame takes care of NC State BYU over Arizona
and Pittsburgh over Florida State.
Speaker 4: Daniel on the chat, you just Kirby Smart claps like
you just saw Barney the Dinosaur.
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