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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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going to bring you this week's episode of The Big Story.

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dot Great Detectives dot net. But now, from December fourteenth,

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nineteen forty nine, here is three gold coin spelled death.

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Speaker 2: The Big Story.

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Speaker 3: It was Sunday morning along US Highway sixty six, heading

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west from Telsaje, Clinton, Oklahoma. Missus Rose Penn and her

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son were driving to church.

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Speaker 4: Jim, Jim, to stop the Car's the monomer?

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Speaker 5: I told you stop the car.

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Speaker 4: Don't you see it over there? On the side of

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the road. A cost is a man sleeping on that car?

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Speaker 6: There's no business advises it't Maurah, A fellos got a

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right to sleep.

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Speaker 7: You get on out of this car and find out

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why you're sleeping there on the cot beside the road,

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whether like this? Now go on, well, well.

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Speaker 8: What are you standing there for?

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Speaker 9: Is he all right?

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Speaker 5: Is he sleeping?

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Speaker 3: He's sleeping, Maurah, He's sleeping, but he ain't never going

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to wake up.

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Speaker 2: Taltzer, Oklahoma. The story of a reporter who found three

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golden coins that's spelled death. Teltzer, Oklahoma. The story is

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it actually happened, Reporter Nolan Bullock's story as he lived it.

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Speaker 3: You, Nolan Bullock of the Tulsa Tribune, our reporter with

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a flattened nose, and you've got it by staking it

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consistently into other people's business. Like now you sit in

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the fashionable Will Rogers' Hotel and clamor near Telson and

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take part in a business conference. The business being, since

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Oklahoma is a dry state bootlegging, and your job that

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of undercover agent for the State Crime Bureau. Your name

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for today, Nolan Bullock, is mister Norton.

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Speaker 10: Mighty good meal, I sir, here, mister Norton, mighty good.

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Speaker 11: Cigar, mister Ritchie, okay, perfect, thank you kindly.

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Speaker 4: I have been sitting quiet all through the meal, mister Richie.

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Do we talk business now, yes, sure thing, mister Norton.

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But to tell you the I don't think we can

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make a deal. We've had a week to check my

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credit and no, no, no it's not the credit. Well what

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is it? Then? I've been without merchandise three and a

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half weeks.

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Speaker 11: Now, Look, I explained to you last time, a change

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in the corporation as big as mine. That takes time,

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mister Norton. When mister Veeze was alive, the man in

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child before mister Breton, I told him you've got to

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prepare for eventualities like this.

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Speaker 10: But he didn't listen to me. Nobody listens to an account.

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Speaker 4: Look, all I know is that I've got to have

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twenty one cases of stock to let so loud please,

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mister Norton. And I need two dozen barrels weekly regularly.

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When am I going to get a definite answer? You

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know there are other firms to deal with.

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Speaker 10: Now, you wouldn't want to do that, mister Norton.

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Speaker 11: When mister Breton comes in and takes over, that's the

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man you want to deal with, and the only one

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in this state. I worked for mister Breton years ago,

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and I tell you, frankly, I'm looking forward to his return.

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Things never were the same in all the years he

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was away. He's a fine man, mister Breton, strictly a business.

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But the best terms you could get them leave.

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Speaker 4: But I know about mister Breedon. All I am asking

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you now is when does he get here? When can

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we make our final arrangements.

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Speaker 10: To tell you the truth? Mister Norton, he ought to

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have been here yesterday.

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Speaker 11: He left California. Oh, must have been three days ago.

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I believe I'll wire him and find out if there

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was any change in his plan.

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Speaker 4: I've got one hundred and twenty one establishments waiting on,

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mister Breedon. Those customers want beer, they want wine, they

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want whiskey, and they want it now. They are not

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interested in any of my business difficulties.

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Speaker 3: And so you, Nolan Bullock, undercover agent and reporter, watch

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the pleasanter Capital leave and you make your call. Capital

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two thousand, State Bureau of Criminal Investigation. Let me add

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mister Oliver things as this is Nolan Bullock. Oh, I'm sorry.

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I can't talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Know well, I have just let Richie expect breeding in

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a few days for Pete's sake.

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Speaker 6: I can't talk to you.

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Speaker 12: I've got to run where we got to run?

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Speaker 6: If you must know?

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Speaker 3: Dead man, report it out on Route sixty six. He look,

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I'm supposed to be out there. I can't see that

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you're talking to you murder that looks like it. Well,

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you don't have to talk to me on the phone.

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Speaker 4: I'll meet you there.

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Speaker 12: Where is it?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm not ready to give anything out on this.

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Speaker 12: I look naked.

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Speaker 4: You don't tell me where to meet you on that killing.

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I'll get off this breeding case fast. That's black man,

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I'll call it what you like.

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Speaker 6: Where is it?

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Speaker 3: About two miles outside of Clinton on Route sixty six,

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big gas station that side of the roads.

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Speaker 12: It I won't.

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Speaker 3: And so you, Nolan Bullock, drop the story about the

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boot legs syndicate and hop on the biggest story, the

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story of murder. And now you stand with Special Investigator

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Nick Oliver, both of you shaking your head at the

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dead man lying on the cot just off Route sixty

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six near Clinton.

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Speaker 12: Oh, possible way of identification?

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Speaker 6: H nothing.

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Speaker 3: I'll get Haynes with a finger print dure and see

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if his prints tell us anything. I don't think even

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the mother would recognize his face. Hey, where are you going?

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Speaker 12: Looking around?

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Speaker 6: Wish that ambulance will get here? What are you looking for?

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Speaker 12: Something in the grass? Nick?

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Speaker 4: Kay?

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Speaker 6: Do you know it's a coin?

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Speaker 12: Here's another one? Let me see there's a Mexican.

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Speaker 6: Coins, right, that's what they are.

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Speaker 12: Well, what are they doing here?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 3: Well we've got something anyhow, It's not much more than nothing,

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but it's something.

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Speaker 6: Finally, the ambulance. Yes, so you okay? Sentem in.

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Speaker 3: Somebody thinks he's got something on the murder Onen, and

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somebody's got something more than we have.

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Speaker 6: Next Everyen Burns reverence her mister Burns.

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Speaker 13: You see, Lieutenant, I'm not an ordained minister, merely an

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evangelical preacher who tries to bring a little understanding a lieutenant.

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Speaker 6: It's not lieutenant, just mister.

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Speaker 3: I beg your pardon, sir, like you said, not lieutenant,

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just mister pride right.

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Speaker 13: And the last Saturday, Sir, I was holding my regular

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campfire meeting. We hold campfire meetings every Saturday evening, all

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the way up and down Highway six to six. That night, Sir,

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I was preaching on.

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Speaker 6: The side, said you knew something about the murder.

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Speaker 13: I was coming to that directly, sir. It was toward

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the end of my sermon. The disturbance came from a

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campfire not too far distant. But you see, so the

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men were shouting, and the wind you see.

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Speaker 6: Was born.

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Speaker 13: He's mister Burns, so you see their voices were walked

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in my direction. There were three men, sir, and they

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were having I must say, a most profane fight. You

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can imagine the language. And that's also I knew something

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dreadful was going to happen, and I thought for a

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moment I would intervene, but then I thought better of it,

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and I didn't.

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Speaker 6: And that's all that happened.

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Speaker 4: Did you see any of them their faces?

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Speaker 6: It was rather a dark night.

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Speaker 13: If it's of any value, though I don't see how

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it possibly can be. They had a station wagon park

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next to the fire, and I think one of the men,

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amidst the profanity.

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Speaker 6: Called the other, yes, thank you very much, mister Burns.

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Not to talk.

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Speaker 13: I shall be holding a meeting on Saturday as usually,

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just two miles out of Tulsa on route six to six.

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Speaker 6: If you should want me, thank you. Mind closing the door.

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Speaker 12: That's a great help.

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Speaker 4: Somebody name of Ace, and there was a station leg.

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Speaker 6: Maybe don't forget. It was a dark.

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Speaker 12: Night, but the wind was blowing.

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Speaker 3: A week goes by a week of feverish activity by

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Nick Oliver on the murder story, and by you and

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Nolan Bullock on the murder case, and on the bootleg syndica,

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And when you add it all up, it's less than

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the faint sound of the name.

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Speaker 6: Ace on the night air. You keep spending time at.

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Speaker 3: Headquarters waiting, hoping it lostly goes with it, and then.

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Speaker 6: A routine message comes through on the police teleor.

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Speaker 3: Type request owner Oklahoma license seven to one three nine

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one truck stranded here? Answer soonest police Chief Indio, California,

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and Nick Oliver puts through the routine requests in the

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routine way license seven one three one name, Hey Nolan.

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Speaker 6: Wake up?

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Speaker 14: What's the matter?

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Speaker 12: What did you say?

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Speaker 6: Guess whose truck is stranded out in California?

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Speaker 12: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 6: That request we got from Indio?

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Speaker 12: Oh? Yeah, sure?

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Speaker 3: What about the owner of that car in California was

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named Thomas Breeden.

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Speaker 4: Reden, Well, that's my man, just California on the phone, and.

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Speaker 3: You put me through to the police chief in Indio.

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Would you think I was calling Nolan my bootlegger?

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Speaker 4: Ss right?

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Speaker 3: Chief fellow's name was Thomas Breeden. And we're interested in

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him too. Tell me everything you've got. Oh, you jailed him.

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Speaker 12: That's why I didn't meet me in the coop in California.

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Speaker 6: Uh huh? Ol passo? Huh what do you know?

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Speaker 12: What about ol passo? Hey?

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Speaker 6: Nick?

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Speaker 4: What about ol passo?

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Speaker 6: You check with the FBI? Euh fine, fine, what is

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this FBI?

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Speaker 4: L passo?

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Speaker 6: Nick? Chief, you've been very helpful. Is any time you're

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in tells it? Yes? See if I'll do that. Say

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how's the weather out there?

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Speaker 4: Nick?

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Speaker 6: Ninety two degrees? Huh? You don't say we got blizzard

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weather here? It's so long, Jeeve?

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Speaker 4: Hell, do you want me to slangle you?

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Speaker 3: It seems your friend Tom Breeden was picked up about

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a week ago by the.

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Speaker 6: Police chief in India.

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Speaker 3: He was driving a truck, went through a red light

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and hit somebody.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't serious.

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Speaker 3: They put him in the coop for five days, took

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his prints and all that. Chiefs said, he acted like

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a man going to be sentence to the chair, nervous,

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and so he checked on him in Washington. I don't know,

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with some delay, I guess on the chiefs end in

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checking the Prince with Washington, and he didn't get the

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answer on Breden until after he was let out. Nick,

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get to the point, Okay, when the report came through,

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it seems Breeden is wanted by the federal authorities at

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El Paso for entering the country illegally with close to

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seventeen thousand dollars in Mexican coins.

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Speaker 12: What's going?

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Speaker 6: That's what the man said. When he last left California.

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Speaker 3: He was seen driving in the station wagon with two men,

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one named Bronson, one named Styles. The first name of

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the fellow called Styles was Ace. What about Breeden, Well,

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you see all on. The reason you never met Breden

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is because his prints are the same as those of

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the man we saw on the cut of US sixty

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six awful Dead. What started out for you, Nolan Bullock,

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reporter for the Pelt Tribune, as an undercover job as

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a bootlegger, is now a murder story involving the FBI,

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two indistinct figures named A Styles and somebody Bronson, and

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seventeen thousand dollars in Mexican coins. You and Nick Oliver

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know you aren't much nearer a solution, and you are

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the time you stood and looked at the battered head

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of Thomas Breeden. And so you decide to go back

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to the will Rogers Hotel and clam aw. Maybe the

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contact man of the syndic at the accountant knows something.

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Speaker 4: Look, mister Richie, you said in a few days i'd

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get an answer.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I know, I know, but something has happened to

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mister Breton. Could you use a good man in your organization.

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I'm a fine accountant, I'm honest and I am accurate.

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I was with mister Breton for few years. I tell

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you I know the bootleg business.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to help you, mister Richie, and maybe I

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can if you put me in touch with whoather is

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taking over now that mister Breeden.

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Speaker 11: I think I have too, as soon as I know anything,

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And you can use a good man in the urbanisation.

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Speaker 12: Well we'll see all right. Now I'd better pay the

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check and get going.

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Speaker 10: Yes, well, I'll run on ahead. And see what I

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can find out for you. You have no idea how

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I am.

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Speaker 12: That is where I pay the check.

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Speaker 7: That's right, just a moment. I'm sorry. I nearly gave

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you that phony coin.

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Speaker 4: I be mean to put the side.

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Speaker 12: Let me see that. Maybe that's a Mexican coin. Where

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did you get it?

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Speaker 7: Someone's been passed and then you grew up a cigar acount?

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I got one, and I got this. When was this

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this morning? Sometime we gave it to you. I really

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notice some man, by the time I saw it wasn't

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a real coin, had already gone out, ran out of

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the front steps, and I saw and drive off he

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and another man who was with it.

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Speaker 4: Did you have to know what they drove up in?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 10: Just a car?

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Speaker 12: Was it a station wagon?

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Speaker 13: You mean one of those?

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Speaker 4: Say now that you mention it, it's just what it was.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: I have to make that.

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Speaker 4: Up out of my own pop. No, you don't, sister.

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Here's a dollar to take its place. Let me have

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that little Mexican phony, Nick, guess what happened?

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Speaker 6: Come on, if you've got something, you.

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Speaker 4: Remember that Mexican who showed up those three Mexicans.

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Speaker 12: Blondes the Golden blondes.

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Speaker 4: Well, I found a friend of theirs at the cashiers

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and the restaurant, the will Rogers's Hotel.

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Speaker 6: Meet it there and I make it half an hour.

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Speaker 4: Nine oh seven is my room, Nick.

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Speaker 10: Alone, mister Norton, this is mister Richie. I've got something

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you'll find very exciting. You can meet the new boss.

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Speaker 11: How you know the road off US sixty six stairs, Well,

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go past the gas station at Ember Street. It's a

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little dirt road, a little left off sixty six, A

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left turn. You can't miss it. It runs down through the

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Verdigree Valley. There's a big white house, green shutters. That's

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two and a half miles down the road. All right, planks, Richie.

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Now please don't say I told you to go there,

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mister Naughton. The boss might not like it. His name

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is Bronson, Okay, rich And I won't forget. When I

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get a setup, i'll find.

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Speaker 4: A place in it.

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Speaker 10: Oh, thank you, mister Norton, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 12: Now what to do?

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Speaker 4: Nick?

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Speaker 3: Oliver is on his way, can't be reached, and you

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know how to find a new boss. It takes only

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a moment to make up your mind. You turn left

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at the gas station off sixty six. Take the road

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to Verdigree Valley. You'll keep her in second as you

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get down the incline and the road is wide enough

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now for just one car. Now coming at you is

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another dusty car and there isn't a room for both

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of you to pass.

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Speaker 6: You stop and then you see a station ladder. Not

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much room.

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Speaker 13: Eh, that's right, but looks like one of us is

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going to have to back up.

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Speaker 4: Say is your name Ace?

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Speaker 6: What is it gonna be Mac?

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Speaker 4: You or us?

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Speaker 12: Who backs up?

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Speaker 4: Well, I was supposed to meet up.

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Speaker 13: I get better for you, Bud, and we're in a hurry, so.

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Speaker 3: Your back her up, trying to get a look at

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the license places, but the man in the car there's

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too much dust on the road. And then finally when

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you reach a point where you can back up off

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the road, nothing pass. Something inside tells you we'll let go, villain.

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Speaker 12: You better keep your head down as they go by.

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Speaker 6: Duck and wait for it.

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Speaker 10: But it doesn't come. There's no shot.

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Speaker 3: And then you see them hitting forty fifty pruning away

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from you before you can swing your car back on

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the road and follow them, And it takes you an

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hour and a half. It seems to reach the next

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gas station just a quarter of a mile away before

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you can call Nick.

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Speaker 4: Nick or I saw them, at least I think I

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saw them. I mean Styles and Bronson in the station

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wagon out on a dirt road, all sixty six. No, no, no,

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I checked that. There's a little gas station. That's where

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I'm calling from. No station wagon came out from the canyon.

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It must have turned off one of the side roads around,

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many of them, I'm sure, yes, four or five men

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to do the job.

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Speaker 12: All right over.

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Speaker 14: Here, shout it off, Mick. Yeah, over there, you'll see it.

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That's the wagon.

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Speaker 3: Very convenient, nice place for a headquarters. The house in

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the valley, and the car. Oh mean, let's go slow. Yeah, sure,

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this is the wagon chere on the shore. Let's see

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what's in it. Hey, h put your light over here.

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Speaker 12: What have you at?

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Speaker 4: A gash in the back seat. It's a big boat,

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you see it?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I see it.

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Speaker 4: Mexican blondes, quite a bunch of them.

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Speaker 10: M nice.

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Speaker 12: What what do you think this is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Right here, My guess is blood and.

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Speaker 4: This was a wrench.

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Speaker 10: Might be what they did it with.

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Speaker 4: It's heavy enough and it's got the same kind of

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rust eyes. Well let's take him not so fast.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 3: Suppose they say they never met your friend Breeden, know

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nothing about.

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Speaker 6: Him, need proof?

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Speaker 12: Just what do you have in mind?

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Speaker 3: You know those guys pretty well, know their businessminger, the

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way they operate. Can't you think of some way of

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going in there doing a little fast talk about.

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Speaker 6: Him by do?

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Speaker 4: It's not a bad story, not bad at all.

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Speaker 12: Good luck.

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Speaker 4: Your name is the Styles, it is mister Styles. Oh

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where's Bronson downstairs?

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Speaker 6: Who are you?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 6: My name is Norton.

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Speaker 4: Didn't you hear about me? I was supposed to make

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arrangements with just the Breeden for the delivery of twenty

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one cases of stock a week in.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, little Richie told me about you.

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Speaker 6: Ain't you the fella?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: We met you on the road. What degree Valley? I

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was sorry about that. We had to change our headquarters.

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How'd you find it?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: I've got a lot of money invested in my business,

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A little tracking down if somebody never bothered me?

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Speaker 10: Okay, sit down.

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Speaker 4: What don't you get for a case of domestic stock?

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Speaker 8: Round?

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Speaker 6: You're bout one hundred and seventy dollars.

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Speaker 4: I'll take twelve cases a week if you're twenty dollars a.

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Speaker 10: Case, all right, who are you kidding?

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Speaker 6: Twenty dollars?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm quite serious, you say. I happen to know

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that I can get it at twenty dollars a case.

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Speaker 5: Go on, peddle your papers somewhere else. The price is

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one hundred and seventy.

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Speaker 4: I happen to know that you and Bronson and my

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friend Breeden were driving in from California. I happen to

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know that you're going to do a fight with him,

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And I happen to know that you stole seventeen thousand

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dollarsand coins from him. And there are stains in the

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car right out in the back, and the wrench with

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stains on it, and I don't think they're rustain you Now.

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Speaker 10: I'll take it easy, will you?

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Speaker 4: Look, we can do business. Say I've got another idea.

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Why does it have to be Norton and Styles and Bronson?

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Why can't it just be Norton and Styles?

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Speaker 10: What do you mean just you and me?

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Speaker 12: Come Ona?

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Speaker 4: Who did it the breeding? I mean, was it you

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or maybe a friend downstairs? You know, if we come

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to a deal, cutting something three ways is less than

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cutting something in two yeah, that's just how it happened.

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Speaker 5: He did it, Bronson. I didn't want to kill him.

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I just wanted to make a deal. But that Bronson,

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he's got a temple like.

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Speaker 12: A wild man. Do you mean it? You and me?

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Why not?

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Speaker 4: Cops are looking for a four guy.

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Speaker 10: Do you testify?

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Speaker 4: I testify and it's Norton and Styles.

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Speaker 10: I should have met you before and Style.

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Speaker 6: Now I ain't that pretty. And the cops need a

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fall guy. Second, Bronson, I.

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Speaker 13: Was just yeah, maybe in set of a pall guy,

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the cops will get a corpse, maybe two corps mister Bronson.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that's right, mister Bronson. Oh do you think you

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are coming in here making deals?

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Speaker 12: Just a guy?

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Speaker 4: Ain't just like you are to make a book.

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Speaker 13: I'll look you shut up, two red sense, I'd knock

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you right through the floor, your standing Norton and Stein.

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Speaker 4: I look, mister Bronson, you can't do business that way.

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It can't be done corpses, two corpses, knocking people to

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the floor. All I want is the best possible deal

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I can get.

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Speaker 13: Where did you take this thing up from? You think

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you can talk your way out of this. I heard

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what you said. It was standing behind the door. I

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don't know who you think you are or what makes

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you so cocky.

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Speaker 4: What makes me so cocky, as you put it, is

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what's out in the back. What's supposed to be out

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in the back in the car seventeen thousand in Mexican

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coins like the ones found near Breeden, stains on the

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floor of the car, and a wrench out there stains

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on that too.

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Speaker 13: Nobody saw no seventeen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 10: There's no stains, no wrench.

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Speaker 13: All I see is a wise guy who talks too

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much by my money.

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Speaker 6: I smell cop, amateur cop.

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Speaker 11: Run around.

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Speaker 13: Maybe you've already done enough thinking maybe you want to

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turn around too, I said.

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Speaker 4: Turn around, all right, all right, I was only he

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was only looking for me.

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Speaker 6: Let's stand where we are, right where we are?

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Speaker 9: Hello, Nick, Oh, I know maybe we ought to make

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it to you.

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Speaker 6: That's right, both of you. Now, let's go. Oh Nolan,

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mm hmmm, give you a tip shift, don't try to

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move into bootleg, not in your line.

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Speaker 4: That your style. You stick with the papers. Thanks, Nick,

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I don't think I won't.

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Speaker 2: We read you That telegram from Nolan Bullock of the Tots,

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Oklahoma Tribune.

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Speaker 4: Both men and to Night's Big Story, pleaded guilty the

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second degree manslaughter, admitted killing Breden after he attacked them.

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Both were sentenced ten years of hard labor at the

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state penitentiary.

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Speaker 15: A galistair Oblahoma, and so ends another Big Story.

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Speaker 16: In order to protect the names of people actually involved

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in the Night's authentic Big Story, the names of all

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characters and the dramatization were changed, with the exception of

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the newspaper reporter. M hmm, this is the United States

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Armed Forces Radio Service, the Voice of Information and Education.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, since we didn't get any discussion of

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the cast at all, let's go ahead and do that. First.

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Nolan was played by Bob Reddick, and then also in

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the cast were Abby Lewis, Grant Richards, Mandel Kramer, and

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Bill Smith. So we get two future Johnny Dawlers for

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the price of one. Now, I think most criminal relationships

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are somewhat toxic, but I don't think anything beats the

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dynamic when the smart one and the hothead are the

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same person. Is what we saw here. I mean that

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other guy was still trying to make a deal even

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as the police were breaking in. Now, in terms of

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the facts of the case. The Story behind the Big

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Story or Stories Behind the Big Story states that this

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were about a mysterious slain of a man near Clinton.

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That's what the basis of the story, Clinton, Oklahoma occurred

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in nineteen forty seven, and a summary is to be

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available soon, but no real details on the real life

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who's in what's even though doctor Joe Webb says the

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story has been found and in this case, I'm a

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little bit curious about whether the whole detail about Nolan

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actually being a government agent was invented because it sounds

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like the type of stuff you hear in fiction, because

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it would be exceedingly rare for a reporter to actually

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directly work for the police department. But then again, there's

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not a whole lot of history on Oklahoma police practices

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that's readily available on the internet. Now. One thing they

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did find is that he actually walked with a lamp

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as a result of getting beaten up while posing as

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a college student trying to obtain a story. And so

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while I can't get into details about the case, it

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is safe to say that Nolan Bullock was the type

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of man who was not afraid to take very serious

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risks in order to get a story well, listener comments

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and feedback, and we have a comment on the poison

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pen murders from Jeffrey who writes pretty wax laws. Then

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how can a non policeman confiscate a pistol tool from

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a person's room. Well, legally, you wouldn't think they would

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be able to. And generally, when it comes to these

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sort of details from the Big Story, it comes down

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to one of two things. Number One, there were a

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lot of wild days of reporters doing things that they

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would not do and would not get away with today

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because of lax or enforcement and print journalism as a

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sort of frontier and other details were just invented by

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the Big Story writers And unfortunately I can't say whitch

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with that particular incident. Well, now it is time to think.

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Our Patreon supporter of the day, Thank you to Todd,

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We will be back next Tuesday with another episode of

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the Big Story. But join us back here tomorrow for

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Broadways my beat.

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Speaker 8: Where alcohol poisoning. Denny, there shift here from the emergency

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hospital for identifications. You know who they are, Yeah, this

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one Joey Macklin, bowery, pickpocket, bum panhandling, Rummy.

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Speaker 9: This one I know him.

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Speaker 8: No, he's the reason why I called you down here, though.

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Notice anything, Denny, that's.

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Speaker 9: Pretty well fenned. Fingernails look like they've been manicured enough

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too long ago.

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Speaker 8: Huh.

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Speaker 9: Other things?

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Speaker 8: This found this crumpled mask in his pocket. Take a

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look at his clothes, really raggy, huh. Underneath he's wearing

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silk underwear. You're taking prints last night, soon as they

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came in code numbers sent to Washington right away.

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Speaker 9: You say the emergency hospital sent them over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: They staggered in there, practically blind from the bumbooze, screaming.

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We couldn't help him, Danny, they were too far gone.

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Speaker 9: They have the liquor on them. No, there's allably to

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be a lot more of it someplace, My gum, that's

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all alcohol and peace, juice and beating oil. How come you've.

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Speaker 8: Seen him brought in after the strained paint through a

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piece of bread.

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Speaker 9: I've seen him get right about this one, Maga man.

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He looks too patiently upbut that's why he looks out

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of place.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime,

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do send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives

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