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<v Speaker 1>Seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in four the Great American

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<v Speaker 1>Willie Cunningham today and leave next Wednesday as well open bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Wherever he is, he's relaxing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe with this weather getting a little better, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>gets to get out on the golf course. But I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate him giving me the opportunity to do his show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, it's been a hell of a Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really has for me. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening. Yesterday I took a trip to Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>and came back with a little bit of a case

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<v Speaker 1>of Montezuma's revenge. I'm getting over it, but Christmas was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a blur. But boy, it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not regret going in any way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of things that want to cover today. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to you first about maybe you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Rand Paul sent it to Rand Paul from Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year he does his what he refers to as

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<v Speaker 1>the Festivus Report, and it kind of looks at government

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<v Speaker 1>spending and specifically wasteful government spending with a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a humor.

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<v Speaker 2>To it.

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<v Speaker 1>Although, boy, when you hear this some of them, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you're gonna find it too funny because it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite its origins, the Festivus Report, it became synonymous with

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<v Speaker 1>wasteful government spending, especially the millions and millions of bucks

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<v Speaker 1>that are just spent on stupid stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>He discovered over a trillion dollars in government waste in

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<v Speaker 1>this year's report. Now think about that, a trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit of money and waiting you hear

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<v Speaker 1>some of these stupid things. This is the best one, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to cut to the chase here on

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<v Speaker 1>the first one, well, you know, no, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>preface it first, though. The senator highlighted shocking facts regarding

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<v Speaker 1>government spending, which included predictions from the Congressional Budget Office

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<v Speaker 1>that the country will add over six point four billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of debt every single day for the next ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>borrowing over two hundred and sixty eight million every hour,

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<v Speaker 1>four point five million every second, and over seventy excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>every minute, and over seventy four thousand every second. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, folks, we can't sustain that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we just can't. And I gotta be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>some of this is Republican spending as well. Somebody's got

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<v Speaker 1>to get a hold of this stuff because it might

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<v Speaker 1>not be us, but it's gonna be. If it's not us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be our kids or our grandkids that

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be looking at a second depression or recession

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. It's just at some point somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at what ran Paul found, this one is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>How about spending federal doe your dough taxpayers dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>an ice skating drag queens for a climate change event?

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<v Speaker 1>Ice skating drag Queens for climate Change. He revealed that

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<v Speaker 1>the government provided funds for a drag queen ice skating

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<v Speaker 1>performance warning about the dangers of climate change. The National

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<v Speaker 1>Endowment for the Yards gave the It's Called It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Bearded Ladies Cabaret in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, ten thousand bucks

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<v Speaker 1>for its beard on ice performance on climate change alarmism.

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<v Speaker 1>The artistic director for the self described Queer Cabinet Arts

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<v Speaker 1>organization provided the following statement regarding the performance and the

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<v Speaker 1>statement I think is even worse. Okay, here's what the

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<v Speaker 1>dude who is responsible for this thing said. It is

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<v Speaker 1>so impossible the issue of climate change and climate anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>right now, almost as impossible as drag queens learning how

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<v Speaker 1>to ice skate. So if we can get these drag

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<v Speaker 1>queens to ice skate, maybe, just maybe we can solve

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<v Speaker 1>the climate crisis. Now, assuming there even is a climate crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>how do drag queens on ice skates help to save it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that really is incredible. This is our money

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<v Speaker 1>that they're spending. And you know what, I've asked this

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<v Speaker 1>question a number of times, and I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from all of you today too. Seven four nine seven.

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<v Speaker 1>The big one are the numbers. What is the left

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<v Speaker 1>obsession with drag queens? I don't get it. They gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make drag queens a part of every not every, but

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<v Speaker 1>darn near every kind of event. They have, So ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks down the toilet for ice skating, drag queens

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<v Speaker 1>for climate change, all right? Coming in at number two

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars on border security. Now you might be

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<v Speaker 1>axing yourself. What's wrong with that? We got a problem

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<v Speaker 1>down on the border. Well, the problem with it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's millions of dollars for border security for not the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America, but Paraguay. Let me just read

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<v Speaker 1>this little clip. The Festivals report also found that the

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<v Speaker 1>State Department spent two point one million dollars on border

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<v Speaker 1>security for Paraguay. This is particularly troubling because it meant

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<v Speaker 1>the US government gave millions of dollars to another country

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<v Speaker 1>for border security while ignoring the many failures and problems

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<v Speaker 1>along the US border. So it's just it boggles the mind. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a border problem. Everybody knows that it's at

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<v Speaker 1>the acute point now, and thank goodness, in about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>days we're going to get some relief. And I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here watching Fox News. I don't have to sound up obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and he Trump is still saying he's going to start

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<v Speaker 1>the deportations on day one. I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 1>does that, but border security for Paraguay. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw something else to this week that I guess Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration, presumably on his orders, although who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he knows. They are selling the remnants and apparently

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<v Speaker 1>there's pretty much of it of the border wall that

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump wanted to put up in his first term.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just selling it and he knows damn well that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is going to finish the wall or get as

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<v Speaker 1>close to it as he can. So we're selling it

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<v Speaker 1>for pennies on the dollar, and you know President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>going to come in and I guess we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend more money on it. But that's just what the

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<v Speaker 1>government does. You'll love this one too. It's titled Rats,

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<v Speaker 1>Cocaine and Loneliness.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't have lonely rats.

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<v Speaker 1>The Festivus report identified a government study in which researchers

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<v Speaker 1>injected rats with cocaine to analyze the impact of the

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<v Speaker 1>drug's addiction. The Department of Health and Human Services spent

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and nineteen thousand dollars four hundred nineteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>bucks of your money to determine if lonely rats quote

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to know that. These funds were used by

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<v Speaker 1>researchers to observe and see if rats placed in positive

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<v Speaker 1>environments would be more likely to abstain from cocaine than

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<v Speaker 1>rats in negative and isolating environments. Hundreds of thousand dollars later.

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<v Speaker 1>The results were predictable as what one might suspect. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we got to take care of our rat population.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want them lonely. This one doesn't surprise me

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<v Speaker 1>at all. You know, you talk about the last I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, five six, seven years or so, probably the

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<v Speaker 1>area where the most money was just blown and wasted

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<v Speaker 1>is with respect to the pandemic relief. And there were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people legitimately who needed pandemic relief. But

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<v Speaker 1>the stories are coming in now, and they have been

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<v Speaker 1>really for a couple of years now, of the huge

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<v Speaker 1>amount of waste that came from just doling out this money.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this using pandemic relief funds to buy an island.

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<v Speaker 1>The report identified the misdeeds of a Florida businessman who

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly used COVID nineteen relief funds to purchase Sweetheart Island.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sweetheart Island is off the coast of Florida. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the government thankfully investigated that purchase and found out that

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<v Speaker 1>the swindler used funds obtained from pandemic assistance to quote

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<v Speaker 1>help finance the island purchase close quote, according to reports.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy apparently they're talking plural, not single, so there

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<v Speaker 1>is a number of payments to him. I guess wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you think they would have done some perfunctory investigation into

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<v Speaker 1>this guy on the front end of it. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy received seven point eight mili in an emergency

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic aid by submitting over thirty deceitful applications. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>good news, folks. He was eventually busted, convicted for his crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and sentenced to over five and a half years in

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<v Speaker 1>federal prison, and he agreed to return the seven point

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<v Speaker 1>eight million dollars in eight he returned. Now, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, is a guy that practices federal criminal law

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<v Speaker 1>that that's just a standard thing that a court does,

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<v Speaker 1>is order restitution, getting restitution out of people. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different ball game, just a couple more of them here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I played pick a ball couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen to this, your tax dollars, millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>spent on a picketball court in Las Vegas. With all

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<v Speaker 1>the money flying around in Las Vegas, the Festivus Report

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that the Department of the Interior spend twelve million

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<v Speaker 1>bucks to build a thirty court pickaball complex in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>The city hoped to use these courts to host high

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<v Speaker 1>profile tournaments and eventually put Las Vegas out on the

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<v Speaker 1>global Pickaball map. So, like I said, I like pickleball,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't need to be spending twelve million bucks

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<v Speaker 1>in a place that is teaming with money for pickleball.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the other ones, billions of dollars spent on

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<v Speaker 1>nearly empty office buildings doesn't surprise me a bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the work from home thing in downtown Cincinnati here

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<v Speaker 1>and I lived down here during the pandemic, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>people fled downtown like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>In the office buildings too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know about the government buildings, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people aren't coming back. So the

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<v Speaker 1>government spends all this money on empty office buildings. So

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<v Speaker 1>go figure, Go figure. I did want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something else. We got a little bit of time to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. I talked about this a little bit yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>but really kind of flew through it, and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted to talk about it a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was a survey in Axios about what happens

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<v Speaker 1>to families during the holiday season when they are divided

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<v Speaker 1>and in some cases, I mean really divided over politics

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<v Speaker 1>and probably more specifically the presidential election. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>and I shared this yesterday. I'll share it with you all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something I'm dealing with in my family and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing. And I looked into it, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of families dealing with it. And this

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<v Speaker 1>Axios report says why it matters. And there's a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>what's his name, Robert Jones. He's a president and founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the Public Religion Research Institute. They conducted the survey,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says it may be tense around the Hanukkah

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<v Speaker 1>and Christmas table. Well, I think that's probably an understatement

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<v Speaker 1>by the numbers. And I don't think this will surprise

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<v Speaker 1>you at all. It doesn't surprise me one bit. Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>are much more likely to view Republicans to view the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party as a serious threat to the country than

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<v Speaker 1>they were in twenty and sixteen before Trump was elected

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent in twenty sixteen, that's eighty one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Republicans are right beyond them.

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<v Speaker 1>Also more likely to view the Democrat Party as a

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<v Speaker 1>serious threat sixty percent back in twenty sixteen, sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The disparity here. Well, here, here's the other one. This

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the important one. Let me give you this one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The question was.

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<v Speaker 1>People who say they will reduce time with the family

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<v Speaker 1>over the holidays due to political differences. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good sample size people who said they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to reduce time with family due to political differences. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me just read this to you all. Voters twelve independence

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<v Speaker 1>eleven percent and only five percent of Republicans say that

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<v Speaker 1>And probably nine out of ten of them, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I'm dealing with it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion is so important that you know, screw you, dad, mom, brother, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>who you voted for. Guess what, that ain't right? It

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<v Speaker 1>went away in seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>Willy seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen in

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<v Speaker 1>for the Great American Willie Cunningham. Got a great show

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<v Speaker 1>for you today at one o'clock. Just coming up in studio,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was in the summer. You wouldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of them. You will definitely want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear doctor Hardings. And two o'clock we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to our friend Peter Bronson. He's got a new book,

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<v Speaker 1>Promised Land, How the Midwest Was Won. Peter is always

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<v Speaker 1>a great guest, and we'll be talking to him at

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock. But before we broke, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to talk about it just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about the situation where you know they not's

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<v Speaker 1>just the holidays, but that's where it seems to come

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<v Speaker 1>to a head. Where you have somebody in your family,

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<v Speaker 1>family member, even close friends, anything like that that don't

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<v Speaker 1>your political beliefs or who you voted for. It's insane

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, but if you look at it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>happening around the country. I just want to give you

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<v Speaker 1>this poll results. Again. We'll talk about something else, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was almost fifty eight hundred adults. The poll is

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<v Speaker 1>Conect conducted November eighth, December the second, and the question

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<v Speaker 1>is will you reduce time with family due to your

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<v Speaker 1>political differences? Democrats twenty three percent, Republicans five percent. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that surprises me about that that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>more because again it speaks to the arrogance of the left.

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<v Speaker 1>They're right about anything and everything, and by god, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to listen to you. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>what this is. Kind of like you can't judge book

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<v Speaker 1>with Politically Different Families this Holiday, and it was in

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<v Speaker 1>in a magazine, an online magazine called Black Life Forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of looked into them a little bit, very very

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<v Speaker 1>liberal group. However, having said that, man, they are right

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<v Speaker 1>on the money on this, I mean right on the

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<v Speaker 1>money and it shows no bias either way whatsoever. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you want in something like this. And they

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<v Speaker 1>have four tips, four tips to deal with this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I just wanted to tell you what they were,

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<v Speaker 1>just briefly. Number one, and again, this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I hope the other side's listening to. Number one suggestion,

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<v Speaker 1>be empathetic. Now if you are politically astute, or you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even really have to be, if you've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>things a lot of empathy in your modern liberal there's

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<v Speaker 1>just not well anyway, The article says that when having

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with family members who believe differently than you do,

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<v Speaker 1>remember to offer your own explanations and beliefs with kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got this in brackets, not moral superiority. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you listening liberals? Not moral superiority? And goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to their reasoning, which could reveal the motivations

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<v Speaker 1>behind their political choices. And again, that's hard or almost

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to do with people on the left because they

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<v Speaker 1>know everything. Okay. Second tip is share your perspective. Be

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<v Speaker 1>straightforward about the facts, the figures, and the history that

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<v Speaker 1>help you come to your own conclusion. Share films and

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<v Speaker 1>books that will show your family members that they may

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<v Speaker 1>not know of yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, you can try, and in my personal situation I have,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't always work, but it's I think it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a good suggestion, all right. Number three, protect yourself? And

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<v Speaker 1>you probably say, what do you mean protect yourself? This

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion goes on to point out that no one should

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<v Speaker 1>feel any guilt or shame for not spending this time

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<v Speaker 1>with relatives. I don't know that I agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's only that your discussions about politics in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>cannot remain civil, set boundaries and feel free to let

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<v Speaker 1>Well there again, I think in a lot of situations

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<v Speaker 1>you just say, hey, look we don't agree on this,

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<v Speaker 1>Great suggestion, Not sure it works with and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all people on the left, but I would dare to

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<v Speaker 1>say the majority.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Last one, and this is the best one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>The number four suggestion is the personal is political, but

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<v Speaker 1>family is forever. Let me read that again, the personal

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<v Speaker 1>is political, but family is forever. And it goes on

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I'm this is the author. I'm of the

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<v Speaker 1>opinion that every bit of life is political, shaped bar

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<v Speaker 1>by our social and cultural beliefs about what is good

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<v Speaker 1>and acceptable. However, using family members who believe differently but

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<v Speaker 1>are otherwise kind and consistently present in your life is

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<v Speaker 1>not worth any sort of moral crusade or feeling of superiority.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Truer words were never spoken, And I guess I got

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<v Speaker 1>to take back one thing I said, putting it on

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard on the left. Again, I'm assuming and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure I'm right. The author of this article is

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<v Speaker 1>the right, but man, he is on the money with this.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I wanted to share this with you. I've

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, hopefully that may be just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit helpful. Hey, let's do this. Let's take a short

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<v Speaker 1>callers here. I want to hear what they have to

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<v Speaker 1>say if you want to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven four nine, seven, eight hundred one are the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back. Mike Allen

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<v Speaker 1>in for Bill Cunningham today and next Wednesday as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>before we broke, we were talking about dealing with political

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<v Speaker 1>differences with family members. We're close friends during the holiday season,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something that's happening a lot. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in it, you know, just google it and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>come up, you know, And it's not really surprised when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it. We are so divided in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>we really are, so no one should be surprised by it.

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<v Speaker 1>But again I have to point out that the poll

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<v Speaker 1>that I read now four times more they said democrats

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll just call them liberals. Four times more liberals

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<v Speaker 1>than Republicans say that they ain't going to spend time

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<v Speaker 1>that should surprise no one. And again, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the only surprise in that that it is not more

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<v Speaker 1>because liberals, and you know, I'm generalizing here, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable generalizing. They think they know everything, they think their

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<v Speaker 1>views are superior, they think that we are Neanderthals. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>how you.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing doing great?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike, great show, as always, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in one of these situations. Half my family's Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>has Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Trumpster.

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<v Speaker 3>They all know it. Christmas Eve, we're all at my

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<v Speaker 3>aunt's house, and of course one of my cousins comes

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<v Speaker 3>over and he goes, well, you're ready for this to

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<v Speaker 3>be the world to come to an end? Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this is going to be the greatest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, you think Trump can make this world great?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, who said anything about Trump, So Daddy Reds

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<v Speaker 3>win the World Series this year and the look on

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<v Speaker 3>his face, you know what what?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way, that's the way they look at things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just kind of confined to their narrow beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>And your point is a good one, Wayne, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds could win the World Series, or god forbid,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals could win the Super Bowl. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just narrowly focused on their own beliefs.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's ridiculous, it really really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've got you know, the mega hat the

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<v Speaker 3>Mega T shirts, right, I don't you know, I cut

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<v Speaker 3>my grass in them. I don't get out in public

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<v Speaker 3>with them because you never know who's just going to

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<v Speaker 3>come home up and start ranting and raving.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I understand that. I'm certain that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>the only one with that. And you know what the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I think Trump is a different person and

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a different president than he was

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<v Speaker 1>first time. Not that he was not good the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>He was. He did everything he said he was gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got screwed by COVID. But my point is,

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<v Speaker 1>matter what I mean, Donald J. Trump, if there was

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<v Speaker 1>that building and Donald Trump ran in and rescued ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine of them, they'd condemn him for not rescuing the

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<v Speaker 1>last one. It's just the way it is with these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was just listening this morning. They're condemning Hamme

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<v Speaker 3>and the Swami.

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<v Speaker 1>And Eli Musk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's some kind of visa you can get if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see four foreigners right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well therefore, but you have to have like a

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<v Speaker 3>bachelor's a group degree and a doctorate's degree. That way

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<v Speaker 2>You have three years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. I don't know if that's been

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been done a lot, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats have amused it. Oh, firing the American workers making

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year and bringing

424
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<v Speaker 3>in this guy from India and paying in sixty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much in today's politics that just make no

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<v Speaker 1>sense whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, well, hey, thanks for taking my call. Mind

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<v Speaker 2>new Year, Okay, you too appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you what. It's a conundrum. It really is.

431
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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I think Trump's going to be

432
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<v Speaker 1>different this time. And I want to make it clear

433
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<v Speaker 1>I had no problem with the way he was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. You know, he's one of the few presidents really,

435
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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, left right democratic Republican who

436
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>did virtually everything he said he was going to do.

437
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that he wasn't able to do was

438
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<v Speaker 1>of course, getting rid of Obamacare because of John McCain.

439
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 1>He missed it by one vote. And it's really hard

440
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<v Speaker 1>to ask anything more out of an elected official, and

441
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<v Speaker 1>it's extremely rare when that happens. And I would venture

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<v Speaker 1>to guess that but for COVID, he'd be leaving his

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<v Speaker 1>second term of office and not being the Grover Cleveland

444
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<v Speaker 1>of the modern age and serve a term, lose and

445
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<v Speaker 1>come back and win a term. So I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too much. It's just too much to ask of progressives, liberals,

447
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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever the hell they want to call it.

448
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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, on that, I've always kind of

449
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<v Speaker 1>wondered why why they changed their kind of identification, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, from liberal to progressive. And I think that happened,

451
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, ten fifteen years ago. I think there's

452
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<v Speaker 1>such a negative connotation to the word liberal from not

453
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<v Speaker 1>all but most Americans that they wanted to get away

454
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<v Speaker 1>from that. And I'll tell you after the debacle, the

455
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<v Speaker 1>absolute debacle we have had for the last four years,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to talk about that, hopefully a little

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<v Speaker 1>later after that. I mean, I don't know why they're

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<v Speaker 1>not running for the hills, because they ran this country

459
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<v Speaker 1>into the ground, right straight into the ground. And thank

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<v Speaker 1>god Donald Trump, a Republican Senate, and hopefully the Republican

461
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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives can stick together to make some real

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<v Speaker 1>changes in this country because we have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to do it. You know. I said before,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say it again that last election was the most

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<v Speaker 1>important election, the most impactful election of my lifetime. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, I ain't no spring chicken, and

467
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<v Speaker 1>I meant that, I really do. And I think everything's

468
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<v Speaker 1>lining up right for him. One thing that really urinates

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<v Speaker 1>me off and here we go again with it, is

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in the House with certain members of the

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<v Speaker 1>House that just apparently don't know how to count. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan said one time, and he was the master

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<v Speaker 1>of this. I forget exactly what it was, but the

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<v Speaker 1>point he was making. Somebody was giving him grief about

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<v Speaker 1>not heeding to one hundred percent some conservative position that

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<v Speaker 1>he took, and he said something like, hey, look, if

477
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<v Speaker 1>I can get three fourths of what I want, why

478
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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I take it? Point being with these Congress members, look,

479
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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are going to be changes. They don't

480
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>need to be making it any harder for Mike Johnson,

481
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<v Speaker 1>the speaker. I think he has done an outstanding job,

482
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and it looks like he's going to keep his job.

483
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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're now driving the damn car. I mean

484
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<v Speaker 1>we are. It's us. We got everything House if they

485
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>can keep it together, set it strong majority there President obviously,

486
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and although it's not political, but of course the liberals

487
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 1>wanted to and still do want to make it political.

488
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<v Speaker 1>We have a conservative Supreme Court, so the balls in

489
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<v Speaker 1>our court, and that's not to say that they can't

490
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<v Speaker 1>throw roadblocks up against us, but it's our turn to

491
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<v Speaker 1>drive the bus, and we can't be having this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bickering. And I get it, I get it, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it.

494
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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

495
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<v Speaker 1>These Congress people who are kind of contrarians, if you will,

496
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<v Speaker 1>they're very, very concerned about the budget deficit. Guess what,

497
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<v Speaker 1>so am I you just heard me read those statistics

498
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<v Speaker 1>in ran Paul's report. At some point, we're going to

499
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<v Speaker 1>have to pay the price. However, goodness gracious, let us

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<v Speaker 1>get in control for a while and hope that it

501
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>gets better. And again, I think everybody would agree that's

502
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<v Speaker 1>just not a Democrat problem. The deficit. We did the

503
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<v Speaker 1>same thing. And you know what a lot of people

504
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know this. The last time we had a balanced budget.

505
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<v Speaker 1>Guess it was President Bill Clinton. I forget what year

506
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<v Speaker 1>it was, but you know, I wasn't really paying attention.

507
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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked when I heard that. So, no matter

508
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<v Speaker 1>how bad it is, I still think we can get

509
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>back to some fiscal sanity if we stop fighting among

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves and get in the same boat and row in

511
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<v Speaker 1>the same direction like they always do, Like the Democrats do,

512
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<v Speaker 1>they stick together. I mean, you don't see them having

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<v Speaker 1>these petty squabbles about things, so hopefully we can take

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson from them and go from there. Hey, listen,

515
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<v Speaker 1>we got to take a break for the news. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when we're coming back, you're going to want to stick

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<v Speaker 1>around because there's some good news in primary education. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, there's a hell of a lot of

519
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>bad news. Test scores, horrible communists, China beating us in

520
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>every category. We're going to talk to mister doctor Jed Hardings.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the president of Cincinnati Classical Academy, and you're not

522
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>going to believe what they are doing without any government assistance.

523
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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk to doctor Harding's after the news. Mike

524
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<v Speaker 1>Allen in for Willy Cunningham seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're

525
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<v Speaker 1>back Mike Allen in for Willie Cunningham today and next

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday as well. You know, as I said before we

527
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<v Speaker 1>broke here, there's not a lot of good news on

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<v Speaker 1>the primary education front, and I don't think there can

529
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<v Speaker 1>be any disagreement on that. Test scores there are record lows,

530
00:35:54.199 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it seems like no one seems to care. However, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>there are alternatives and we're going to talk about a

532
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<v Speaker 1>really good alternative, and that is the Cincinnati Classical Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a success story beyond belief, I think. And

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about the CCA is its president of

535
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<v Speaker 1>the board of directors, doctor Jed Hardings. We talked to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I think last summer, doctor Hardings, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming back. Great to be here, Mike, Thanks. Hey, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tell my listeners what cch is or CCA,

539
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<v Speaker 1>When did it start, how is it different? And it

540
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<v Speaker 1>is classified as a charter school? Correct, Yeah, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 4>We kind of go by the nickname Classical Cincinnati Classical.

542
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 4>It's a tuition free school that opened in twenty twenty two.

543
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 4>It is a public school, so there is no tuition,

544
00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 4>but as a charter school, what that means is that

545
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<v Speaker 4>we're governing and independently and can pursue our own unique

546
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 4>philosophy and curriculum. And so we offer a curriculum based

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<v Speaker 4>on the classical education philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us what that is? Sure? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 4>You can think of it just as a rigorous traditional education.

551
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<v Speaker 4>We teach phonics, which a lot of the public schools

552
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<v Speaker 4>have not been doing a good muntil the law got

553
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<v Speaker 4>changed last year. Now everyone has to take this approach,

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<v Speaker 4>I know that which classical schools have been taking, you know,

555
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<v Speaker 4>since since they got you know, reinvigorated fifteen twenty years ago.

556
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<v Speaker 4>US we teach phonics, We teach a cursive handwriting, We

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<v Speaker 4>diagram sentences, we learn Latin, We teach history instead of

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<v Speaker 4>social studies. We study the fine arts, and importantly we

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<v Speaker 4>also teach moral character and civic virtue, and there's a

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<v Speaker 4>number of other distinguishing characteristics. We use minimal technology. So

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<v Speaker 4>you hear a lot of talk about unto one schools.

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<v Speaker 4>That means one laptop per one student. We have zero

563
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<v Speaker 4>laptops per school. Really the teachers use them, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, there's no technology really with the students' cell

565
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<v Speaker 4>phones aren't allowed in the school, which is again a

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<v Speaker 4>trend that now we're now seeing other schools starting.

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<v Speaker 1>To catch on to.

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<v Speaker 4>We have teachers lead the classroom as moral examples of

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<v Speaker 4>love of their subject matters, and we wear uniforms.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a bit of a throwback, which I consider

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<v Speaker 1>a very very good thing. What you were just describing

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and we were talking off mic on this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like Saint Antonias the grade school I went to,

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<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned you went to Saint Dominie. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is how the founding fathers were educated

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<v Speaker 4>or educated themselves in Lincoln's example. But another example of

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<v Speaker 4>that class school approach of the way things always used

579
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<v Speaker 4>to be is we always used to teach civics, and

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<v Speaker 4>we used to teach a curriculum that emphasized the American

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<v Speaker 4>and the Western traditions. That's what we're doing, and remarkably

582
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>it's controversial with some people that call us ethnocentrists. So

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<v Speaker 4>as an example, all all high school students they have

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<v Speaker 4>to take a year of both English and British literature.

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<v Speaker 4>They will all take a year of European history, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not optional, before they study American history, and then they'll

587
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<v Speaker 4>also learn ancient history of the Greeks and Romans. And

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<v Speaker 4>then on top of all this, when they're you know,

589
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 4>become very well prepared for the more advanced courses in rhetoric, logic, economics,

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00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 4>moral and political philosophy. And these are all core curriculum courses.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not a sort of choose your own adventure school.

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<v Speaker 4>You decide, let the parents decide how you should be

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<v Speaker 4>educated here. No, there's there's a body of work that

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<v Speaker 4>one needs to master in order to become educated.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's the same Saint Dominic, but

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<v Speaker 1>when I was at st Antoninus, and again that's what

598
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<v Speaker 1>this sounds like, and that's a good thing. Father Gockler,

599
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<v Speaker 1>the pastor, he handed out the the report cards.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he wanted some accountability. Do you guys do

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that?

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<v Speaker 4>No, we don't. We don't have pre set the school.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's another aspect of getting a public charter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now I heard you say that before. We do

606
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<v Speaker 1>have a colisseum.

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<v Speaker 4>The coliseum is where the students who have misbehaved or

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<v Speaker 4>have to meet with the headmaster. They sit and they

609
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<v Speaker 4>stare at the colosseum wall as if they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get thrown in with the gladiators.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that little tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the Dominican nuns at st Antoninus and they

613
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<v Speaker 1>were not shy about doing a little corporal punishment, and

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<v Speaker 1>at least Mighty aff I deserved it. I love what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. You referred to it. I believe as a

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<v Speaker 1>public school. Tell Us what you mean by that, and

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about your sources of funding, where you get

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<v Speaker 1>your students, things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So it's a public school in the sense that

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<v Speaker 4>it's open to enrollment by any Ohio resident. There are

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<v Speaker 4>no admissions tests, no aptitude tests. It's first come, first serve.

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<v Speaker 4>It also means that we're fund We get our funding

623
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<v Speaker 4>from the state of Ohio from state tax dollars vouchers.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not exactly vouchers. They come straight from the state

625
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<v Speaker 4>rather than going to the parents, but it's very similar

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a similar amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think last summer when we talked, you were

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit of blowback. I don't remember the

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<v Speaker 1>specific issue, and it's in the past, but has all

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<v Speaker 1>that been worked out?

631
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<v Speaker 2>Whatever the heck it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well they What we did was we applied

633
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<v Speaker 4>for a two million dollar federal grant from the US

634
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 4>Department of Education, and actually we were one of fourteen

635
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.199
<v Speaker 4>schools in the country to get that, and in fact,

636
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 4>we got the highest rating of any school in the

637
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:03.119
<v Speaker 4>country on that grant when one review reviewer gave us

638
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:07.639
<v Speaker 4>a perfect score, which is just unheard of. But yeah,

639
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 4>the teachers unions came out against us. Greg Landsman came

640
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 4>out against us, and this all kind of blew up.

641
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.760
<v Speaker 4>They threw all kinds of malicious accusations at us, and uh,

642
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 4>there was a big write up in the Washington Post

643
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 4>criticizing our school again, remember calling us that no centrist

644
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 4>and all this kind of made up nonsense. But but anyway,

645
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 4>the accusations were baseless, and you know, the grant was awarded,

646
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.199
<v Speaker 4>so nothing really happened. But it was fun to hear

647
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 4>that come up in the debate with some between Songs

648
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 4>and Landsman, songs that held him accountable for it.

649
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

650
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<v Speaker 1>Really, well, I'll tell you what. I love that guy.

651
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, this is our congressman. Think about this,

652
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<v Speaker 4>This is our congressman asking two million dollars to be

653
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<v Speaker 4>sent back from his district to Washington.

654
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I'm sure the teachers somebody in the

655
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>teachers union called him up and said you better because

656
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that's who runs that party. I don't expect you to

657
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>comment on that, but let me ask you this question.

658
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>If you comparison on test scores with the public schools,

659
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<v Speaker 1>and the purpose of the question is not to you know,

660
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 1>put down the public schools, although I think they got

661
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of problems, but is there a comparison?

662
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<v Speaker 2>Are you able to do that?

663
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we can because as a public school, we're held

664
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<v Speaker 4>to the same standards as every other public school, whether

665
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<v Speaker 4>it's a traditional district school, Indian Hill, Wyoming, whoever. We

666
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 4>all take the same state tests, so you can compare

667
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 4>them side by side starting from third grade, you know,

668
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 4>all the way up through through the grade standardized Ohio

669
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<v Speaker 4>State standardized tests in math, English language, arts, and science,

670
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 4>and you compare.

671
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Them across the board.

672
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 4>Since our very first year, we've been at the top,

673
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 4>right right alongside the top five public schools that have

674
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 4>been around for decades and decades and decades in Cincinnati.

675
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty incredible.

676
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's across the board all subject matters, Science, English, math,

677
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 4>and we were even even among charter schools in Ohio

678
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 4>in our first year. There's two hundred and fifty charter

679
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 4>schools in Ohio, and right out of the bat, in

680
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 4>our first year, we were ranked number one in early

681
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 4>literacy out of all those two hundred and fifty schools

682
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.360
<v Speaker 4>that have been around for ten to fifteen since nineteen

683
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<v Speaker 4>ninety seven.

684
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty amazing. It really is. I want to ask you,

685
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>there's some really exciting things going on with CCA with

686
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 1>respect to expansion. Can you tell us about that?

687
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Mike, this has been an absolutely grueling process to

688
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:53.360
<v Speaker 4>identify a campus and property facilities to grow to our

689
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 4>full potential and ambition of having thirteen hundred students. Eventually,

690
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 4>we looked for four years, examined over two dozen different

691
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 4>properties and just ran into a lot of obstacles again,

692
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 4>the same players, teachers' unions, local school districts came out

693
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 4>against us and had a lot of influence on the

694
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 4>local municipalities who wouldn't cooperate with us to rezone or

695
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 4>to sell us properties.

696
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>There were a few municipalities that.

697
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<v Speaker 4>That appreciated the value that we could bring and they

698
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 4>were trying to attract us, but again they got stopped

699
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.000
<v Speaker 4>and superintendents came out and spoke at public hearings to

700
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 4>oppose us. It was kind of unbelievable and this went

701
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 4>on for four years. And the other aspect of the

702
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:44.719
<v Speaker 4>difficulty is the financial obstacles because we get about thirty

703
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 4>percent less funding than the local public schools, right, so

704
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 4>how do you build a school for thirteen hundred students? Well,

705
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 4>we just this past fall, we finally arrived at that

706
00:45:56.519 --> 00:46:00.960
<v Speaker 4>solution and purchased two campuses, one in Reading and another

707
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 4>one in Blue Ash next to sm Mid Park that

708
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 4>are gonna serve the K through four grade levels and

709
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<v Speaker 4>then the five through twelve grade levels, respectively.

710
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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna be K through twelve. It sounds like, yes,

711
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:14.159
<v Speaker 2>we are.

712
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 4>We started with K through six when we opened two

713
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 4>years ago, and we've been adding one grade level each year,

714
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 4>so this year we're K through eight, and then next year,

715
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<v Speaker 4>just in time, just after the doors open on our

716
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 4>new property, we're gonna we're gonna have our first high

717
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 4>school class.

718
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 2>So this was.

719
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<v Speaker 4>Really a big deal. We got it done in the

720
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 4>nick of time. It was a very It was a

721
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 4>big deal. It's a twenty nine million dollar project.

722
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Over we got that belt Can building. We got the

723
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.039
<v Speaker 1>bel Can building. It was big. It's huge, but it's

724
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:44.320
<v Speaker 1>actually the perfect size.

725
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 4>It fits like a glove when you lay out the

726
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 4>classrooms and everything against our needs.

727
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, one hundred thousand square feet.

728
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.599
<v Speaker 4>We've we've already completely demoed the interior and they're framing

729
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:57.079
<v Speaker 4>up the classrooms and hallways as we speak.

730
00:46:57.840 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Pretty incredible.

731
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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you where do you get the students

732
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:03.760
<v Speaker 1>from How does that work?

733
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 4>That was a bit of a leap of faith, you know,

734
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.480
<v Speaker 4>because I loved the concept of this school. But you know,

735
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:13.119
<v Speaker 4>with the public, you know, how what was the response

736
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 4>going to be? But it's been overwhelming, absolutely overwhelming since

737
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.280
<v Speaker 4>day one. We opened with capacity for four hundred and

738
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 4>fifty students and it was full.

739
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>It was full in the beginning year.

740
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.239
<v Speaker 4>We've been full ever since with a wait list of

741
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 4>four hundred students of four hundred, yeah, so we we

742
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 4>just we can't grow fast enough, honestly. But they're coming

743
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 4>from everywhere. There's no singular answer. They're coming from homeschooling backgrounds,

744
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 4>from public school backgrounds, from private school backgrounds, and they're

745
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:45.880
<v Speaker 4>coming geographically from a diameter of about sixty miles.

746
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean all the.

747
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Way from Oxford to Anderson to New Richmond Hill. We

748
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.719
<v Speaker 4>had some students from Hillsboro County. If you even know

749
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.199
<v Speaker 4>where that is, way out east.

750
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 1>That is a long trip.

751
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 2>You ain't gonna be walking that. That's really amazing.

752
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 4>So it's like it's like sixty school zip codes in total,

753
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 4>in thirty five school districts.

754
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what about sports, Well, let me ask you first

755
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>out of pocket for parents. It's zero, isn't it zero.

756
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean you have to buy the uniforms and there

757
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 4>might be a one hundred and fifty dollars book fee

758
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 4>or something, but that's it.

759
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean you'd think people will be beating down your doors,

760
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like they're starting to. I mean, this

761
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 1>is a diamond. I don't want to say diamond in

762
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the rough because it's not. It's just amazing what you

763
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>all are doing. Let me ask you one other thing before,

764
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and I want to talk about the capital campaign. What

765
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>about sports? Does it have a full sports program? Absolutely?

766
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.679
<v Speaker 4>We've already won city championships in volleyball. That was really exciting.

767
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 4>We did that in our first year. Yeah, yep, we

768
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 4>went right through the tournament and won it all. Second

769
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.760
<v Speaker 4>place last year in the track and field city meet.

770
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.599
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, we've got the full array of sports. I

771
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 4>know there's at least twelve varsity sports planned for the

772
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 4>high school all, you know, most of the traditional ones

773
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.480
<v Speaker 4>that that other schools have.

774
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>What about other social activities? I mean, back in the day,

775
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 1>schools used to sponsor at least Catholic schools used to

776
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>sponsor dances. Yeah, mixers, like that that too.

777
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.079
<v Speaker 4>We do it, and we do it in our own

778
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 4>classical way. The first sort of junior high dance was

779
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 4>actually just a month ago. And you wouldn't believe what

780
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.159
<v Speaker 4>this school pulled off. And I take no credit for this.

781
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 4>This is the school administration and head master. But they

782
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 4>put on a Fezziwigs ball. Feziwig was the sort of

783
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 4>jovial character from a Christmas carol. So they in physical

784
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 4>education in gym class, all the students learned how to

785
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 4>do the dances of the early eighteen hundreds, and you

786
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 4>know these group dances and line dances and docy doe

787
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.599
<v Speaker 4>and you know with a caller, you know, calling out

788
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 4>the dances and moves, and they had and so this

789
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 4>is what the dance was. And all the students showed

790
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 4>up in early eighteenth century you know, ruffled ruffled shirts

791
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 4>and Victorian balls and Victorian gowns. I mean, it was

792
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 4>just it was amazing to see how fully all the

793
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 4>students and faculty and staff everyone bought into this and

794
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 4>they had a blast face and they learned so much

795
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 4>about it too. I mean, sure, what a wholesome way

796
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 4>to learn how to socialize and interact with the opposite sex,

797
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:32.079
<v Speaker 4>get some exercise, enjoy music, and enjoy community. I mean

798
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 4>this is anachronistic today, it is, you know.

799
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 1>But an achronistic in a very very very good way.

800
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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about the Capitol campaign and what people can

801
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>do to help if they want to. Yeah, So, as

802
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:46.559
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, the.

803
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<v Speaker 4>Property acquisition and the construction projects is funded by taxis

804
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 4>and bonds, which was around twenty nine million, but it

805
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:58.800
<v Speaker 4>doesn't quite get us to where we need to be

806
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 4>to complete the construction. So we're aiming to raise at

807
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:08.639
<v Speaker 4>least another four million to complete that construction. And so

808
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 4>we would ask anyone who thinks that what we're doing,

809
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:16.199
<v Speaker 4>who thinks that a rigorous traditional education in the classical

810
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 4>liberal arts, one that teaches logic, rhetoric, economics, history, government,

811
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 4>moral philosophy, and the one that's accessible to the public

812
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:27.480
<v Speaker 4>tuition free. If this is a good thing for Cincinnati,

813
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 4>for our communities, please consider supporting the campaign because this

814
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:35.599
<v Speaker 4>is a cause I think that transcends consideration just of

815
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 4>where your kids or your grandkids we're going to school.

816
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 4>This is, in fact, you know, really a national movement.

817
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 4>This is why you heard Russia Limbaugh talking about Hillsdale

818
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 4>College all the time, and you are affiliated with hills

819
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 4>We are affiliated. We use the curriculum that was developed

820
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 4>by Hillsdale College and is in and is at use

821
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 4>at over eighty schools throughout the country right now. But

822
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 4>the restoration of an education that's needed for a free

823
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 4>thinking and self governing citizenry, that's what we're trying to provide.

824
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 4>It's not just about college career or technical skills. We

825
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 4>want to preserve our country.

826
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

827
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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately we're out of time, Doctor Hardings, and we could

828
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 1>talk for hours about this. It is an incredible story.

829
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.599
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a story that not enough people know about.

830
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate you coming in and talking about sincy

831
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<v Speaker 1>classical dot org. Yeah, and great, great website.

832
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<v Speaker 2>Could you give it one more time?

833
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<v Speaker 1>Sincey classical dot org. Since he with a y classical.

834
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<v Speaker 2>Dot org sounds good.

835
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<v Speaker 1>Come sign up for the newsletter. It sounds good. Hey, listen,

836
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 1>we got to take a break, but we'll be back.

837
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<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen in for Willy Cunningham seven hundred. Man, I'm

838
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 1>getting some good bumper music today. Hey, we're back. Mike

839
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Allen in for Willie Cunningham. Really happy to be doing

840
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that too. I appreciate Willy giving me the chance, and

841
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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I mean. I've been doing this

842
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>for a while, obviously my Saturday show and sub There

843
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>are some interviews that after you do them, you just

844
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 1>really feel good, not about anything that I did, but

845
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the subject matter and the guest. And that last one,

846
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>doctor Jed Harding's of Cincinnati Classical Academy falls right into that.

847
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you think about it, what they're doing

848
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. They are offering that type of an education

849
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:43.039
<v Speaker 1>for free. I think doctor Hardig said that the only

850
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 1>thing that they have to pay for are the books

851
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. And something tells me that if

852
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 1>a low income person did not even have that, they'd

853
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:54.360
<v Speaker 1>find a way to make it happen. And you know,

854
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I've got family and friends that sometimes accuse me of

855
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.039
<v Speaker 1>living in the past, and you know, maybe I do

856
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:08.159
<v Speaker 1>sometimes that when the past is good, why the hell not?

857
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when he was describing that, that sounded so

858
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 1>much like, you know, my grade school sat Antoninus course,

859
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:23.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously a Catholic grade school, and well you see how

860
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I turned out. But there are some success stories tongue

861
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in cheek there, folks, But I don't know It just

862
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel good that there are things like that.

863
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 1>It is definitely, definitely an unknown story and hopefully we

864
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.800
<v Speaker 1>were able to help him get it out a little bit,

865
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.159
<v Speaker 1>and we need things like that. I mean, think about it,

866
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:51.599
<v Speaker 1>think about it. Phonics. I haven't even heard that word,

867
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.159
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how many years, and I'm sure

868
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they stopped teaching it in the public schools, you know, long,

869
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>long time ago. Latin. Now, I took Latin in high

870
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.559
<v Speaker 1>school and I don't mean to brag, but my buddy

871
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Tom Grayson and I were scholars in Latin. I mean,

872
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:19.760
<v Speaker 1>offering that subject in grade school. Discipline, discipline, that is

873
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 1>something that we need definitely in our primary education now.

874
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 1>And I could go on and on and on about it.

875
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have doctor Harding's back, and I kind

876
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of think when people finally really know about this, they're

877
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.159
<v Speaker 1>going to be beaten down his doors. And the acquisition

878
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of the property, the Belkan property, is going to enable

879
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:50.840
<v Speaker 1>them to go through K through twelve. So congratulations to

880
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:55.440
<v Speaker 1>doctor Harrings and everybody at the Cincinnati Classical Academy.

881
00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a hell of a story, well kind of aeg.

882
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>To the next thing I wanted to talk about, which

883
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:06.159
<v Speaker 1>is not exactly the most positive thing in the world.

884
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about primary education before what about higher education?

885
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 1>What are we going to do about higher education in

886
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>this country? You know, I like to refer to it kindly,

887
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I might add, as a cesspool of indoctrination. It is awful.

888
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:36.719
<v Speaker 1>They will fight tooth and nail to prevent whoever from

889
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 1>telling both sides of a story. Those freaking libs. Professors,

890
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>they think they own the place. And that's one thing,

891
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess everything is incremental. I mean, you know,

892
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you heard about Cincinnati Classical Academy, a bit of a

893
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 1>throwback and a damn good one. Everything is incremental. I mean,

894
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe you start with primary education and none of this

895
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:05.199
<v Speaker 1>stuff's going to happen overnight in high school and then college.

896
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Something is going to have to be done about that.

897
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>And what I'm talking about really is just presenting both

898
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 1>sides of an issue. Don't indoctrinate kids. I mean that

899
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:20.559
<v Speaker 1>starts in grade school now, you know, tell them the

900
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:24.679
<v Speaker 1>different things that are out there, and God forbid, let

901
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:29.440
<v Speaker 1>them decide. Which leads me to the college fix. I

902
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've heard of it. Just an amazing

903
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:36.679
<v Speaker 1>organization of a heck of a lot of college students

904
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:40.599
<v Speaker 1>that look for things that are going wrong on the

905
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>college campus, and buddy, there are a lot of them.

906
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:50.519
<v Speaker 1>One good thing that I've been reading DEI Diversity, Equity

907
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 1>and Inclusion, the biggest scam game I think in the

908
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:59.039
<v Speaker 1>history of education, is starting to go down the tubes.

909
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.559
<v Speaker 1>It's going down the tubes in a big way in

910
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>corporate America. Little bit slower, a little bit slower on

911
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the college front, although I did read where Michigan, that

912
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>team up North, that school up North, they have cut

913
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 1>their DEI staff of two hundred and forty one people

914
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 1>with a budget I think of about a half a

915
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Now think about it, two hundred and forty

916
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 1>one people, half a million bucks. How many students, how

917
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:36.440
<v Speaker 1>many low income students? Could you help with that? And

918
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, I've been asking this question for years,

919
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 1>for years, And I know there are people on the

920
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>left that listen to my Saturday show. At least I

921
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>have not yet had anyone tell me just what in

922
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the hell DEI is. I know what it stands for,

923
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>but what is it? What does it do except divide people?

924
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Divide people? I mean, that's pretty much it. It's just

925
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:12.559
<v Speaker 1>such an incredible waste of time and money, and you know,

926
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you look about it, look at it. College enrollment is down,

927
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and gee, I wonder why. I mean, part of it

928
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.559
<v Speaker 1>is the cost, I guess, but I think a lot

929
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:25.519
<v Speaker 1>of it well. And good thing about it, a lot

930
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:28.199
<v Speaker 1>of people are going into the trades now, and that's

931
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a good thing because you can make a good living

932
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 1>in the trades.

933
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:33.719
<v Speaker 2>And not everybody.

934
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:38.639
<v Speaker 1>Is set and really set up for college. I remember

935
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>back when I was going, you know, I had a

936
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>really i'll just say it, a really rigorous major criminal

937
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 1>justice with the rest of the football students. I'm just kidding.

938
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And I went to UC and I'm proud of it.

939
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't all that rigorous. But some people just

940
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:03.119
<v Speaker 1>aren't set up for it. But there is a lot

941
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of work to do to write that ship. And you

942
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:11.920
<v Speaker 1>can throw journalism in there, because they're kind of they

943
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>go hand in hand really when you think about it,

944
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:21.199
<v Speaker 1>These Jay schools, as they refer to them, journalism schools. Somehow,

945
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 1>some way, Republicans, conservatives, moderates, whatever you want to call them,

946
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they got to bust down that door and end the

947
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 1>less franchise on higher education.

948
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 2>In this country.

949
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:40.679
<v Speaker 1>And again along those lines, the College Fix I was

950
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about that young college students who are journalists are

951
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 1>studying to be journalists. I believe that. Look at what's

952
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:52.679
<v Speaker 1>going on negatively on the college campus. And they put

953
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:57.039
<v Speaker 1>out right before Christmas year and this is a College

954
01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Fix year in review. One hundred and twenty campus cancel

955
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>culture incidents in twenty twenty four. Boy, some of these

956
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 1>are amazing. We're just going to go through some of

957
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:15.440
<v Speaker 1>them quickly. San Diego State University investigated two white students

958
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:19.639
<v Speaker 1>for dressing up it's not funny, for dressing up as

959
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Diddy and a bottle of baby oil, for example. I

960
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 1>think I get it. I think I get it, but

961
01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 1>you know what, not everything is a major incident. And

962
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about Diddy. I know he's in

963
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 1>a jam. I wish I was defense attorney. Hell, I

964
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:43.800
<v Speaker 1>could retire on what they're probably making. But you know,

965
01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think many people see that as a problem.

966
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.159
<v Speaker 1>And God knows how many hours they wasted on that

967
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:54.039
<v Speaker 1>and how much money. I mean, it's just it's amazing

968
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:58.000
<v Speaker 1>what they do. They're nearly thirty incidents that they report

969
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the college fixed staff, and I'm sure that they miss

970
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>some of them, just a few more of them. Indiana

971
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:11.320
<v Speaker 1>State University canceled a speech by National Review editor Rich Lowry,

972
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.599
<v Speaker 1>citing safety concerns. And that's what they do, you know,

973
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Ben Shapiro, it happened to him, It happens to Riley Gaines.

974
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.199
<v Speaker 1>And boy if she isn't the best thing to happen

975
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to the conservative cause, I don't know what is she

976
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:31.360
<v Speaker 1>gets shut out of these things. But anyway, Indiana State

977
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they canceled a speech by Rich Lowry, he's the editor

978
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of National Review, citing safety concerns. Bull You know what,

979
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:44.239
<v Speaker 1>it's because they want to shut him down. You know what,

980
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:48.320
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, they're cowards. They're cowards.

981
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:49.320
<v Speaker 2>They don't want to.

982
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Present both sides of an argument. They got the monopoly,

983
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and by god, they're going to cram this stuff down

984
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the student's throats, so they don't want Yeah, you hear

985
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:07.679
<v Speaker 1>so much about diversity, diversity, this diversity that. How about

986
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 1>some diversity of thought?

987
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:14.519
<v Speaker 2>God forbid that goes on?

988
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:19.039
<v Speaker 1>And this stuff just really is awful. Ben Franklin's statue

989
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:24.440
<v Speaker 1>at the University of Pennsylvania completely defaced with red paint

990
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:31.199
<v Speaker 1>by guess who pro Hamas activists. And you know, that's

991
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:34.519
<v Speaker 1>a new thing, relatively new thing on the college campus,

992
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:40.559
<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism. How in the heck did that happen in

993
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the United States of America. I don't even want to

994
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 1>get going on that because that's all we'll talk about.

995
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, maybe they haven't learned about the

996
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Holocaust anyways. Nearly thirty incidents on this year's list can

997
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:03.159
<v Speaker 1>be traced two the Israeli Pakistani conflict, the vast majority

998
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of which were centered on protests from pro Hamas anti

999
01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Israel agitators, and a lot of them are outside agitators

1000
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and weren't college students, who often successfully shut down meetings

1001
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:21.079
<v Speaker 1>and other events they objected to because again, you don't

1002
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.360
<v Speaker 1>want to give both sides of an issue. God forbid,

1003
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:29.360
<v Speaker 1>that's dangerous. Cops at the University of Nevada Las Vegas

1004
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 1>also shut down an Israeli professor's lecture rather than remove

1005
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:41.400
<v Speaker 1>an anti Israel remove plural anti Israel protesters and pro

1006
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Palestinian protesters shut down in a different incident, Pomona College's convocation,

1007
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:53.719
<v Speaker 1>and they shut it down at University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

1008
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Rather than deal with it, deal with the problem, don't

1009
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:04.079
<v Speaker 1>shut it down anyway. The College Fix reports that of

1010
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the one hundred and twenty campus cancel culture incidents from

1011
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:12.119
<v Speaker 1>January one through today and again this thing came out

1012
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the day after Christmas, were successful. Sixty seven of them

1013
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:24.119
<v Speaker 1>were successful. In the rest fifty three were attempted cancelations.

1014
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know what it's they're winning on that front.

1015
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:32.079
<v Speaker 1>But I think we can turn that around with fifty

1016
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 1>two weeks.

1017
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Listen to this.

1018
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:35.239
<v Speaker 1>With fifty two weeks in a year and one hundred

1019
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and twenty incidents in twenty twenty four, that's an average

1020
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.280
<v Speaker 1>of two point three to one incidents per week over

1021
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the last twelve months. Now. It's been kind of quiet

1022
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.800
<v Speaker 1>on the whole Hamas thing for now, but you better

1023
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 1>believe that they'll rev that thing up again. And man,

1024
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 1>like I said, you don't even want to get me

1025
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:58.519
<v Speaker 1>going on that. I just it's hard for my brain

1026
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 1>to comprehend and how anyone anyone can protest on behalf

1027
01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of a moss It's a terrorist group. They're still holding

1028
01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 1>what five of our hostages, But let's go protest and

1029
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:22.239
<v Speaker 1>favor them and you know, you know, it's professor stirring

1030
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:28.880
<v Speaker 1>them all up. John Hopkins University they scrubbed Woodrow Wilson's

1031
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:33.360
<v Speaker 1>name from their program. Now there are some that believe

1032
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 1>in I just finished reading a book. It was Bill

1033
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:39.519
<v Speaker 1>O'Reilly's book with the other person, I forget his name.

1034
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the one that writes them about the presidents.

1035
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And boy, it was good, it was really good. And

1036
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:49.599
<v Speaker 1>they talked about President Wilson. There are some that feel

1037
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:52.679
<v Speaker 1>that he was a racist. I don't know enough about

1038
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it to be able to say one way or the other,

1039
01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:00.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, but his statue presumably survived for a while.

1040
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Cambridge Press, the Cambridge Press, they are dropping the term

1041
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Anglo Saxon from journals because they think that there's some

1042
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of problem with that. Kampuk University denies request to

1043
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 1>host women's sports activist Paula Scanlon. Here's one that just

1044
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 1>this just makes me sick. And this is a Donald J.

1045
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Trump Day one fix west Point, the Military Academy, Army

1046
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Military Academy, west Point. They ditched and I remember this duty,

1047
01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:44.039
<v Speaker 1>honor country from the mission statement.

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<v Speaker 2>That needs to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got to be a Donald Trump Day one Executive order,

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01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:51.679
<v Speaker 1>and he's the commander in chief.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do it. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I'll go on and on about this stuff, and

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01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I do have some more, but we have to break. However,

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01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 1>when we come back, we're gonna talk to our friend

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01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Peter Bronson. He has yet another new book out. I'm

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01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:08.800
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of reading it now. It's great, and

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01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:11.719
<v Speaker 1>he'll tell you about it when we get back. Mike

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01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Allen seven hundred WLW Allan in for the great American

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01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Willie Cunningham. I'll tell you what you're gonna love. This segment.

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<v Speaker 1>We got our friend Peter Bronson. He is out with

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01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:32.319
<v Speaker 1>a new book. It's called Promised Land. How the Midwest

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01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Was One, which is really a prequel to his last book,

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01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:40.520
<v Speaker 1>which was great, The Man who Saved Cincinnati. Peter, thanks

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01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:41.439
<v Speaker 1>for coming down.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, do you. Mike always have a good time with you. Hey,

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01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.159
<v Speaker 2>before we start, I gotta tell you this. A very good.

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01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Friend of mine, when he heard just a little bit

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01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.399
<v Speaker 1>of go that you were going to be on, I'm

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01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:55.840
<v Speaker 1>just gonna read it. I won't give the names, but

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01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he said. Also your next segment with Peter Bronson, I

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01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 1>just gave his wife four books for Christmas. Four of

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01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Peter's books for Christmas. Awesome, there you go, buddy, fantastic

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01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. And this is selling pretty good too. Oh,

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01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it's doing great. You know.

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01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati it loves its history, and Cincinnati is blessed with

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01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:21.119
<v Speaker 2>fantastic history. Absolutely. I mean, there are so many hidden

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01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.880
<v Speaker 2>treasures right here in our own backyard that people don't

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01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 2>know about. And my joy, my real passion now is

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01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:31.479
<v Speaker 2>finding those through research and digging up those great stories

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01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and then sharing them with readers here in Cincinnati.

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01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh and you do a great job at Thank you,

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01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Aproposa Nothing. One of the things I thought about doing sometime,

1083
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you see it on social media is

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01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:48.920
<v Speaker 1>going to a place like you talk about and looking

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01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:52.279
<v Speaker 1>for for remnants, you know, the metal detective thing.

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01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Fun. Oh it is. I've heard from a lot of

1087
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.039
<v Speaker 2>people who are doing that really. For example, Camp Dennison

1088
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:00.720
<v Speaker 2>has always been a gold mine of that because the

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01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Union Army was that's their boot camp and that's where

1090
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:09.119
<v Speaker 2>they mustered in. So you've got belt buckles, you've got cartridges,

1091
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.399
<v Speaker 2>you've got shell casings, you've got all kinds of little

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01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.640
<v Speaker 2>pieces of harness and everything else. And then there's all

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01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.720
<v Speaker 2>kinds of other places. I have a guy who's been

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01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:22.760
<v Speaker 2>in touch with me, A shot up for Jack Hastings.

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01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Jack Hastings got in touch with me after reading The

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01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Man Who Saved Cincinnati and he's been on a scavenger

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01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 2>hunt ever since to try and determine where was the

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01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.720
<v Speaker 2>battery on Mount Adams. Oh okay, so there is even

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01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:38.119
<v Speaker 2>a Hatch street. There, there's a battery street. And he's

1100
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:40.399
<v Speaker 2>got it pretty well narrowed down. But you know, there

1101
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.439
<v Speaker 2>are just no maps anymore we write maps of that stuff.

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01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Has he found any artifacts? He has not, but he's

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01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.279
<v Speaker 2>found a lot of really cool clues and he hasn't

1104
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:50.800
<v Speaker 2>given up yet. I'll tell you what.

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01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to try it, but you know, given my

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01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:57.079
<v Speaker 1>patience level, i'd just be afraid. I'd be there at

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01:10:57.079 --> 01:10:58.520
<v Speaker 1>half hour if I didn't find it.

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01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I know, And we'll get to the book.

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01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Here is my father.

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01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:06.039
<v Speaker 1>When I was a kid, he took us down I

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01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:11.880
<v Speaker 1>think it was in Cleeves somewhere, an Indian mound where Yeah,

1112
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:14.680
<v Speaker 1>we actually, of course they had no metal detectors or anything,

1113
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 1>but we found a couple of arrowheads. Oh really, which

1114
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:20.039
<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool. That's awesome.

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01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, people when they when the first settlers arrived

1116
01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.319
<v Speaker 2>here on the banks of the Ohio, there were all

1117
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:27.680
<v Speaker 2>these cool mounds and they had no idea what they were.

1118
01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:29.880
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of times they were moving that dirt

1119
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:32.880
<v Speaker 2>around because they needed berms, they needed good soil for

1120
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:36.199
<v Speaker 2>planting their corn, and this was readily available and they

1121
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:38.079
<v Speaker 2>started finding all these skeletons.

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01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that why it's an Indian mound because they kind

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01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.359
<v Speaker 1>of used I guess as a dumping ground and moved

1124
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the stuff. Yes, yes, interesting.

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01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So we had mounds even in downtown Cincinnati, all the

1126
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:54.840
<v Speaker 2>way along the Ohio River, through Terrace Park, through Columbia, Tussalem,

1127
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:58.199
<v Speaker 2>through Milford, all the way out to Newtown. There were

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01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.920
<v Speaker 2>huge mounds all along through here, and some of them

1129
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:05.680
<v Speaker 2>were super elaborate. We don't even know today how these

1130
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:10.239
<v Speaker 2>people were able to build such precisely engineered circles, for example,

1131
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:14.439
<v Speaker 2>half mile across yep with no modern tools and they

1132
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:16.520
<v Speaker 2>had to move the earth with baskets.

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01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Pretty amazing, it is. Hey, let's talk about the book.

1134
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about it, as I said, reached to me

1135
01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not finished yet. As a prequel to The

1136
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Man who Saved Cincinnati, which that couldn't put that one down.

1137
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Tell us about the book, Well, it's a book about

1138
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the first settlers who came down the Ohio River on

1139
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.079
<v Speaker 2>flatboats at a time when this whole area was known

1140
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.239
<v Speaker 2>as the Miami Slaughterhouse. The Miami Valley was the area

1141
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:44.840
<v Speaker 2>where nobody was brave enough to settle. Kentucky was fairly

1142
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:47.960
<v Speaker 2>well settled by that time, but both sides of the

1143
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:51.520
<v Speaker 2>river had Indian raids, but the northern half, northern side

1144
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:55.800
<v Speaker 2>of the Ohio River was really bad. At one four

1145
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 2>year period, there were fifteen hundred settlers taken by Indians

1146
01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:04.359
<v Speaker 2>who yeah, and they would be taken as hostages and

1147
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.399
<v Speaker 2>sold to the British for one hundred dollars. Their scalps

1148
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:10.319
<v Speaker 2>could be sold to the British for fifty dollars, and

1149
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.600
<v Speaker 2>or they would be used for entertainment as torture victims

1150
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:16.199
<v Speaker 2>where they would stretch out the torture for three or

1151
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.159
<v Speaker 2>four days while the whole tribe would celebrate and get

1152
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:22.079
<v Speaker 2>involved in burning them slowly to death or whatever they

1153
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:25.000
<v Speaker 2>decided to do. It was just absolutely horrible.

1154
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Boy, you talk about violent, and I think I read

1155
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:32.079
<v Speaker 1>they got a hundred bucks for a live hostages. Yes, yes,

1156
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and they gave them to the British.

1157
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that the deal? Yeah, because it's a lot of people.

1158
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand this until I did the research for

1159
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 2>this book, but the British were very unhappy about losing

1160
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the Revolutionary War. So their whole strategy during that period

1161
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:47.399
<v Speaker 2>was to have their their ford in Detroit. That was

1162
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:50.840
<v Speaker 2>their Canada headquarters, where the governor would be, and they

1163
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:52.760
<v Speaker 2>were going to make sure that none of these upp

1164
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:57.199
<v Speaker 2>and E columnists got passed anywhere near into the Midwest

1165
01:13:57.439 --> 01:13:59.479
<v Speaker 2>because that was their land. They were going to claim

1166
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:03.199
<v Speaker 2>that for camp. So if not for these I know that. Yeah.

1167
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:06.359
<v Speaker 2>So if not for these really tough people who settled Ohio,

1168
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:10.479
<v Speaker 2>most of them American Revolutionary War veterans, if not for them,

1169
01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:15.760
<v Speaker 2>all of this Midwest, including Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin,

1170
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the Northwest Territory would have been part of Canada because

1171
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.520
<v Speaker 2>if the British, they used the Indians as their proxy warriors,

1172
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and they've sponsored them much in the same way that

1173
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Iran sponsors groups like humas well. I see that correlation. Yeah,

1174
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:36.239
<v Speaker 2>And the terrorism against these settlers was really brutal. So

1175
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the idea was to terrorize them so bad nobody would

1176
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:43.239
<v Speaker 2>dare settle in this area, and thereby the British could

1177
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:46.640
<v Speaker 2>eventually claim the whole Midwest for Canada. Wow.

1178
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:50.600
<v Speaker 1>And Fort Washington Way obviously is a street now, but

1179
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that played a big part too, Oh it did.

1180
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Fort Washington was the footprint, the beachhead for all of

1181
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:00.439
<v Speaker 2>these settlers, because that was the biggest stock cad on

1182
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the river. That was where the army was formed. The

1183
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:08.840
<v Speaker 2>first US Army trained there under Matt Anthony Wayne, and

1184
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:09.640
<v Speaker 2>that was the one there.

1185
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:11.399
<v Speaker 1>And there's a street named after him here.

1186
01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and nobody A lot of people don't unaware of this,

1187
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:19.680
<v Speaker 2>but that original US Army, the first army authorized by Congress,

1188
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.960
<v Speaker 2>a standing army that George Washington fought tooth and nailed

1189
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:26.520
<v Speaker 2>to get approved, was the one that was trained right

1190
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:30.760
<v Speaker 2>here in Cincinnati, Fort Washington. Some of the Army, the units,

1191
01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:34.479
<v Speaker 2>the divisions in the Army today still traced their unit

1192
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:36.560
<v Speaker 2>numbers back to that group. Wow.

1193
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Is there any evidence that George Washington, during the war

1194
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:44.159
<v Speaker 1>any other time, actually came to Cincinnati.

1195
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is good evidence of that.

1196
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:46.520
<v Speaker 1>He was.

1197
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:50.239
<v Speaker 2>He was with the French and Indian War, and he

1198
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:51.359
<v Speaker 2>fought his way.

1199
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Very far right before the Revolution.

1200
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and he had a battle that would have been

1201
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:58.000
<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania as we know it now, but he had

1202
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a battle there. So there's a very good life likelihood

1203
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:04.399
<v Speaker 2>that he explored this area as a surveyor, and he

1204
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:08.079
<v Speaker 2>was just an amazing guy. My respect for Washington when

1205
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I review did the research for this, I just can't

1206
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 2>say enough about him as such a great man and

1207
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a great founder of our country.

1208
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Without him, boy, you can't say enough about him. I'm

1209
01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 1>glad you mentioned that. I just finished a book before

1210
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I started reading yours, Bill O'Reilly and Martin Dugard. I think, oh, yeah,

1211
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a book about the presidents, but it kind of

1212
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:35.560
<v Speaker 1>encapsulated the presidency with their problems and things like that.

1213
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I think he'd like it. Yeah. I think he ended

1214
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:42.840
<v Speaker 2>up choosing Lincoln as his number one president over Washington.

1215
01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I would quibble with that. I think the difference there

1216
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 2>is that both men had huge crises thrust upon them

1217
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 2>and rose to greatness. But it was Washington who really

1218
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.239
<v Speaker 2>formed this nation. If not for him fighting for that

1219
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:02.319
<v Speaker 2>standing army would have defeated the Indian Confederation at the

1220
01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Battle of Fallen Timbers. We never would have had our

1221
01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:08.960
<v Speaker 2>first Army that made the whole Northwest Territory safe and

1222
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:11.920
<v Speaker 2>drove the British out, and really a huge part of

1223
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:14.520
<v Speaker 2>our country would have been part of Canada, and that

1224
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:17.159
<v Speaker 2>would have started the growth of the whole USA. I mean,

1225
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:18.319
<v Speaker 2>there would have been nothing.

1226
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:21.399
<v Speaker 1>And he was a reluctant warrior from what I read.

1227
01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean his wife wanted didn't want him to go.

1228
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:27.079
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to run his uh. I guess it was

1229
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:30.399
<v Speaker 1>a plantation, yes, but he loved his country, yes, his

1230
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.960
<v Speaker 1>brand new country yes. And what he did at Valley Forge,

1231
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:38.560
<v Speaker 1>for example, just amazing profiles and courage. There's nobody like

1232
01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:40.520
<v Speaker 1>him that I can think of. I mean, there's just

1233
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:45.239
<v Speaker 1>no leader for sure on this.

1234
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Continent as a president who measures up close.

1235
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, you got Joe Biden, though.

1236
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:53.319
<v Speaker 5>Well he'd hardly be number one on my list. And

1237
01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:57.079
<v Speaker 5>worst yeah mine too. Hey, let me ask you. I

1238
01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:00.359
<v Speaker 5>believe you said or I read it. I forget that

1239
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:06.680
<v Speaker 5>the Ohio side was crazier and more violent than Kentucky.

1240
01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Is that accurate?

1241
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And why was that?

1242
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Well? Both sides had what they called in those days depredations.

1243
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Depredations were the Indian raids and the terrible massacres and

1244
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:22.359
<v Speaker 2>the just terrible terroristic violence that was perpetrated on these settlers.

1245
01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky was considered. That whole area was considered a neutral

1246
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:30.680
<v Speaker 2>hunting ground shared by all of the tribes. And the

1247
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.439
<v Speaker 2>two most fierce tribes in all of this whole area

1248
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:36.880
<v Speaker 2>of the West as it was known then, were the

1249
01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Shawnee and the Miami.

1250
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And the Shawnee were the ones that down by the

1251
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Salor Park area. They got that big statue at Takumpsa

1252
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>down there. And what's that fellow's name? We talked about it,

1253
01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that Eckert.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen Eckert wrote a great book about Takumsa. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>another one about Simon Kenton, who also plays a role

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<v Speaker 2>in my book as one of the frontiersman. He's just

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01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a legend, a towering legend. Simon Kenton is somebody that

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01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:08.760
<v Speaker 2>more of Cincinnati should know about. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>I love about writing these books is it's that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to share stories that should make Cincinnati very proud

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01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:19.079
<v Speaker 2>of our city in our history. I mean, it should

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<v Speaker 2>make us really absolutely with a sense of place with

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<v Speaker 2>no less pride than Texas. Yep, I mean Texas has

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01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:27.920
<v Speaker 2>their pride. Hey, Cincinnati should be just as Pop, I

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01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:28.479
<v Speaker 2>agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Texas, can you tell us about the Twin Sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Absolutely so. Not only did Cincinnati these tough frontier people,

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<v Speaker 2>they saved the Northwest Territory from becoming part of Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Then in the eighteen thirties, Cincinnati was the only city

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01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:49.479
<v Speaker 2>that stood up and lent aid and went to the

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01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:52.439
<v Speaker 2>rescue of Texas when they were fighting for their lives

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01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:57.159
<v Speaker 2>against Mexico. And the way Cincinnati did it, they sent

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01:19:57.279 --> 01:20:01.119
<v Speaker 2>two cannons that were ultimately known as the Twin Sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody else sent much help to Texas. Cincinnati was the

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01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:07.520
<v Speaker 2>only place, and we sent these cannons that arrived just

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<v Speaker 2>in time to be on the battlefield at Sanya Sinto

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01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:13.880
<v Speaker 2>when Texas won their independence and defeated Santa Anna.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And if not for those cannons, which Santa Anna didn't

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01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:21.000
<v Speaker 2>know that Texans had, they would not have won that battle.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no question in fact, for decades after, during

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<v Speaker 2>their celebrations of independence that Texas always made a big

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<v Speaker 2>point of issuing their their gratitude and thanks to Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>So they do acknowledge it.

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01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:38.520
<v Speaker 2>They did, for I don't think much anymore because these

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01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:42.560
<v Speaker 2>things have been forgotten, sure, but at one point Texas

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01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>sent Santa Anna's dagger that was taken from him on

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01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the battlefield when he surrendered that day to here Cincinnati

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01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:52.840
<v Speaker 2>was given to it was presented to the Mayor of Cincinnati.

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01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:56.600
<v Speaker 2>It was a jewel encrusted dagger with a gold hilt,

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01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was absolutely gorgeous. We unfortunately can't find it

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01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:06.119
<v Speaker 2>anymore because it was at one point donated to the

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01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Museum of Art and I was lost somewhere in

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01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:11.399
<v Speaker 2>the collection, or somebody walked off with it, We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a damn shame. It is not surprising, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there are, as we mentioned before, so many streets in

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01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>this city named after people that you write about in

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01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:25.000
<v Speaker 1>your book. Besides Matt Anthony Wayne, what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the others?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Kemper, Reverend James Kemper was the first ordained trained

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01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:34.079
<v Speaker 2>minister in the Pacific in the Northwest Territory Pard me

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01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:39.279
<v Speaker 2>and he was a very brave man. Before Matt Anthony

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01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Wayne defeated the Indian Confederation, there were two expeditions that

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01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:46.439
<v Speaker 2>were sent up under General Harmar and under General Saint Clair,

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01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:49.560
<v Speaker 2>and both of these were not only defeated. They were

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01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:53.560
<v Speaker 2>massacred and massacred in such a way that would absolutely

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01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:58.319
<v Speaker 2>demoralize everybody, sure who was clinging to life in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>In Fort Washington. When Saint Clair was defeated, they called

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01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:05.920
<v Speaker 2>that the Battle of a thousand slain, because that's how

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01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:09.640
<v Speaker 2>many soldiers and their wives and their children and all

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01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:12.439
<v Speaker 2>the other people that marched with Saint Clair. They were

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01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:16.279
<v Speaker 2>all murdered and just masacred, and the only few survivors

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01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:22.239
<v Speaker 2>that came back were absolutely devastated. And Cincinnati's settlers were

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01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:26.720
<v Speaker 2>ready to abandon that Fort Washington. And it was James

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01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Kemper who went door to door and rallied them and said, no,

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01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:35.479
<v Speaker 2>this is our gift from God, our freedom right, our

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01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:39.680
<v Speaker 2>independence we have. This is our promised land. This is

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01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the land that we are supposed to inherit, and we

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01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:45.319
<v Speaker 2>can make something happen here. But don't give up. Don't

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01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:48.239
<v Speaker 2>give up. Share. And this guy, that's a brave guy.

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01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:52.199
<v Speaker 2>If that wasn't enough, then as pastor, he used to

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01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.920
<v Speaker 2>travel on horseback from settlement to settlement, which you know,

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01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:59.800
<v Speaker 2>eight or ten miles between these stations, to do services

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01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:03.439
<v Speaker 2>for Sunday or to do funerals and weddings. And this

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01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:05.680
<v Speaker 2>was at a time when these Indians were taking people

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01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:08.159
<v Speaker 2>left and right, and it's a miracle that he was

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01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>not taken.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, like you said, Peter Brownson, so much history. Unfortunately,

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01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>we're getting close to being out of time. However, I

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01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:18.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to save some time for you to tell

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01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.039
<v Speaker 1>my listeners how they can get the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can get this at all of the local bookstores,

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01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 2>for example, Robling Books, Joseph Beth, Barnes, and Noble. I've been.

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01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of book signing at Joseph Beth.

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01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.920
<v Speaker 2>That was quite a hit. A lot of people came

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01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:34.760
<v Speaker 2>out to say hi, so thank you to all you

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01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:39.239
<v Speaker 2>also available to Amazon. I try to support the local bookstores,

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01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:41.319
<v Speaker 2>but if you like the convenience of persons, many of

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01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:45.760
<v Speaker 2>them anymore. No, I love the local bookstores available at Amazon.

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01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 2>But if you want to sign copy, I have specials

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01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:49.640
<v Speaker 2>on my website right now.

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01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you didn't get what you wanted for Christmas, Hey,

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01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>there you go.

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01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm at chilidogpress dot com and you'll see some

1346
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:00.479
<v Speaker 2>specials there where you can buy three get one free,

1347
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:01.279
<v Speaker 2>and that kind of thing.

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01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Would I would recommend that you do that. I didn't

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01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:08.479
<v Speaker 1>mention Peter's other books, and well he's got a lot

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01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>of them. Forbidden Fruits, in Cities Underworld and Supper Club Inferno.

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01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>That was amazing. My favorite is, you know, Peter Bronson,

1352
01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Behind the Lines, the Untold Story of the Cincinnati Riots.

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01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>That was a book that needed to be written, and

1354
01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:25.079
<v Speaker 1>you were right in the middle of it, well right

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01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>and smacking the middle. Yeah, not in our town, Queen

1356
01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>City versus the King of smut.

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01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you probably know a lot about that too. Oh yeah,

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01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:34.399
<v Speaker 2>well listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately we're out of time, Peter Bronson, but really appreciate.

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01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>You coming in. Oh my pleasure as always. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>being here, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>My pleasure. All right, that's Peter Bronson out with his

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01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:49.199
<v Speaker 1>new book, Promised Land, How the Midwest was Won. Hey,

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01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>we got to take a break, but we'll be back.

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01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen seven hundred WLW, Mike Allen, They we're back,

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01:24:56.479 --> 01:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen in four Willie Cunningham seven hundred WLW. And

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<v Speaker 1>I will be back in the Saturday Show chair tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to getting back to that. And I got

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01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:14.199
<v Speaker 1>some stuff that well, put it this way, I'm gonna

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01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>throw a little red meat around some things that I'm

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01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of honked off about, and something tells me I'll

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01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>be ranting and raving about it tomorrow at nine. I

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01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to let you know too that Dan Carroll Jason

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01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Williams are coming on after me. Two great men there.

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01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:35.279
<v Speaker 1>You definitely want to listen to that. Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're kind of on the topic of what's going on

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01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in higher education. Of course, the college campus being the

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01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>cesspool of non representative thought. I guess that's one way

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01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:57.039
<v Speaker 1>of saying it. You know, they are so so afraid

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01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to tell you both, or tell student more appropriately, both

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01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>sides of an issue. And you know what, at the

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01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, as far as I'm concerned, that's

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01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:12.640
<v Speaker 1>just cowardice. It's just abject, absolute cowardice. You know, they're

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01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:17.039
<v Speaker 1>afraid to say, well, you know, here's a guy, a

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01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>speaker or whatever, or I'm going to give you kind

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01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of another read on things, because God forbid, then they

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01:26:24.439 --> 01:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>might actually choose the other way. But anyway, the College Fix,

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01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>we've been reading some stuff from that boy.

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01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what.

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01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>The College Fix and Campus Reform are two wonderful online

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01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>publications that and their students. They keep their eye on

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01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:47.079
<v Speaker 1>what's going on on the college campus. And I hope

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01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>they wear a mask to class because college professors would

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01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:54.079
<v Speaker 1>have their knives out for these guys. They do a

1395
01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>great job. Well anyway, you get all these things. At

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01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year most outrageous things that happened.

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01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>The College Fix put together the twenty most Outrageous Campus stories.

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01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>This is actually Spring twenty twenty four came out on

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01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>June eighteenth, so presumably they'll be coming out with another one.

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<v Speaker 1>But boy, there's some good ones in this one. Jennifer

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01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Cabani of The College Fix rights between the zany professors, well,

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01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a kind word absurd, cancel culture incidents, very appropriate,

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01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and students running amok campuses continue to illustrate. Why and

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01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:39.880
<v Speaker 1>this just lays the cheese on the crackers, if you will,

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01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>why so many Americans have lost confidence in their institutions

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01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of higher learning? You think as the Spring twenty twenty

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01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>four semester comes to a close again, this is written

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01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>back in June. The College Fix offers, in no particular order,

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01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>a highlight reel of some of the most outrageous moments

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01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:07.239
<v Speaker 1>campus life has proffered and you know, we kid around

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01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>about this, and I mean just no getting around it.

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01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Some of it is humorous, but it's also very sad too.

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01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And guess what if, in fact it is a public institution,

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01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:25.079
<v Speaker 1>a state sponsored school, we're paying for it in one way,

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01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>shape or form. Just a few of them here, and

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01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>all they did was give me the headlines. If you

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01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>want to read more about these things, I'm going to

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01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:38.439
<v Speaker 1>tell you about. The article is entitled the College fixes

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01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:44.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty most outrageous Campus Stories of Spring twenty twenty four semester. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>see you. I'm assuming they mean Colorado University, although I'm

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01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent sure. Professor dresses like a butterfly

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01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:04.159
<v Speaker 1>to fight climate anxiety. I gotta go back and read

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01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that one. SeeU Boulder professor dresses like a butterfly to

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01:29:10.119 --> 01:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>fight climate anxiety. Let me tell you some about climate anxiety.

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01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:19.479
<v Speaker 1>These freaks are gonna be having a lot of climate

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01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:24.239
<v Speaker 1>anxiety for the next four years. That's gonna be fun

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01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:27.159
<v Speaker 1>to watch too. I love this one, and I wish

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01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:29.319
<v Speaker 1>they would have had this when I was in college

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01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>because this would have helped me. Tongue kind of in

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01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>cheek on that one. Oregon university will no longer give

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01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:42.119
<v Speaker 1>D minus and F grades, And I don't know. I

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01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>guess there's some stupid, politically correct reason for doing that.

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01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:49.279
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if that's the grading system that they're

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01:29:49.279 --> 01:29:52.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna use, I mean, what do you do? D minus

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01:29:52.239 --> 01:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>is nothing the rite home about. But if they do

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<v Speaker 1>it on a point system, which I think they're doing that,

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01:29:57.800 --> 01:30:00.119
<v Speaker 1>at least it gives you a little bit. But hey,

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01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it says remember the good old days when kids were

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01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:12.319
<v Speaker 1>actually expected to learn very very appropriate right on the money. Oh,

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01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>reading along here this nonsense. Professor labels Michelangelo painting an

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01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>example of are you ready? I will bet at least

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01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:27.479
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of you would nail this one, because it's

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01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>something they throw into everything. Professor labels Michelangelo painting example

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01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of white supremacy. Everything is white supremacy. So you know, Michelangelo,

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01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:44.159
<v Speaker 1>knock it off. You're a white supremacist and you need

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01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to stay where you are. The left despises true beauty

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01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>as it goes on. And also everything is racist. Boy,

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01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you got that right? You know that word racism and racist.

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01:30:56.920 --> 01:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to say it. Really, Julie has lost all

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01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of its meaning, and that's because it's tossed around like

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01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:12.119
<v Speaker 1>penny candy, And are there still racist of both races

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01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:16.479
<v Speaker 1>or I should say of all races around? Thankfully, not

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01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>very many at all. But they toss this thing around

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01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and hurl this insult at people and it just doesn't

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01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:27.479
<v Speaker 1>have any meeting anymore. You're gonna love this. I'm gonna

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01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:29.159
<v Speaker 1>have to go back and read the full thing on

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Professor worries too many robots are not white

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<v Speaker 1>supremacists but white God. Professor worries that too many robots

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<v Speaker 1>are white. I'm not making this stuff up. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>making again. It's the the College Fix and it's right online.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go get it if you don't believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>Syracuse micro Aggressions and Microaggressions. I think of the things

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01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that little things episs liberals off, micro aggressions. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're Syracuse micro Aggressions Workshop. It's a workshop

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<v Speaker 1>that they set up looking at a service animal micro assault.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta look at that. And the editorial comment on

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01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that one is they're scraping the bottom of the barrel

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<v Speaker 1>with this one. Oh, I gotta be fee be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit careful how I say this one University and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't say which one it would in the full

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<v Speaker 1>text universal Man universities ejaculate Responsibly. I guess I could

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01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:53.319
<v Speaker 1>say that campaign blames men for unwanted pregnancies. Universities ejaculate responsibility,

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01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>campaign blames men for unwanted pregnancies. And the editorial thing

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01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>from the college fix on that there's a punchline in

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<v Speaker 1>here somewhere, ed.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, back to the usual nonsense. George Mason University professor

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01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:20.359
<v Speaker 1>teaches that marriage promotes what else, white supremacy. So if

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01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you get married, presumably, according to this idiot, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacist. This one is just typical college force. I

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01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know what college forces athletes to watch only Whites

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01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:44.279
<v Speaker 1>are racist video? There you again, people exhibit a exhibit

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<v Speaker 1>a of one side of an issue. What he's saying,

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01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the premise is just absurd. It's absolutely absurd. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can bet your bottom dollar that there ain't gonna be

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01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:02.279
<v Speaker 1>any rebuttal on that maybe the students. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I gotta tell you, we went to college.

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<v Speaker 1>I was up at UC seventy four on and off

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four to about nineteen seventy nine. And when these

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<v Speaker 1>professors started saying this wacky stuff, my group of friends

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<v Speaker 1>known as the nit Tite group, all police cadets with me.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't let them get away with it.

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01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean we were in their face, in their face

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<v Speaker 1>in a respectful way. And luckily, back in the day,

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01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:40.399
<v Speaker 1>almost all of those exams were Unless you're my age,

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01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>you probably don't remember blue books, and we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to put our names on it. But I guess if

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<v Speaker 1>the professor really wanted to find out who it was,

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01:34:48.680 --> 01:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>they could. But I don't remember any example of a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher getting even so to speak with any of us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, moving right along here. Mandatory prayer to Mama

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01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Earth in UCLA Med school structural Oh my god, you

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01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:18.039
<v Speaker 1>know you hear, there's so many different racisms. Mandatory prayer

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<v Speaker 1>to not Mother Earth, Mama Earth. You pray to Mama

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01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Earth in UCLA Med school in a structural racism class. Now,

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01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:35.439
<v Speaker 1>let me acces this question. What does racism, structural racism,

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01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:41.119
<v Speaker 1>or racism in any form have to do with medical school?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a big deal. Now there's kind of a

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01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:49.039
<v Speaker 1>movement afoot of sensible doctors to kind of end this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut it off at the pass. Hey, listen, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a short break, be back for just a

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01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit. After the break, Mike Allen in for Willie

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01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:06.199
<v Speaker 1>seven WLW. Hey, we're back closing minutes of this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen and poor Willie Cunningham, followed by Dan Carroll

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01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and Jason Williams. They're going to be doing it together.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be good. Two very good men right there. I

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<v Speaker 1>will be back in the Saturday morning seat tomorrow nine

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<v Speaker 1>to noon, also doing Willie's Show next Wednesday, and doing

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<v Speaker 1>Sloany Show next Thursday. I wanted to thank Sean, my

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01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>excellent producer, and I'm doing it now because if I

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01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>don't do it now, I'll probably forget. Got a few

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left here. There's a couple more of these things

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01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>that I got a hit with you. The nonsense, the

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01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>absolute nonsense on the American college campus, all right, mandatory

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01:36:53.560 --> 01:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Arizona State University course teaches journalism students or teaches journey

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<v Speaker 1>students against asking are you ready for this? Where are

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<v Speaker 1>you from? Because it is racist. So in some way

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<v Speaker 1>if I ask, presumably white guy, black guy, whatever, hey man,

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01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:22.159
<v Speaker 1>where are you from? I'm a racist that's just the absurdity,

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01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that just the abject absurdity that this stuff has come to.

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01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:34.479
<v Speaker 1>And at some point, at some time, we're going to

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01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:37.800
<v Speaker 1>have to get a hold of this and right the

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01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>ship on the college campus. And I know that is

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01:37:41.560 --> 01:37:46.039
<v Speaker 1>easier said than done, no question about that. Well, the

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01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:49.720
<v Speaker 1>last one here again the college fixed. This was just

1536
01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>from a couple of days ago. And again at the

1537
01:37:52.359 --> 01:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>end of the year, you get all these things, the

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<v Speaker 1>top twenty stupid things that liberals do, that kind of stuff.

1539
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>This one is. There were twenty one campus hate crime

1540
01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:08.199
<v Speaker 1>hoaxes uncovered in twenty twenty four. I'm gonna save the

1541
01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>best one for last year, Okay, coming in at number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois State University can't verify the use of a racial

1543
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:24.720
<v Speaker 1>slur by a fan. After interviewing forty seven count on

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01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:29.359
<v Speaker 1>forty seven people and reviewing hours of footage, the public

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01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:36.199
<v Speaker 1>university in Normal, Illinois said in January it couldnot quote

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01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:40.079
<v Speaker 1>verify the use of a racial slur close quote by

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01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a basketball fan that allegedly occurred during a game in

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01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>December of twenty twenty three. So obviously, if that happened,

1549
01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:55.399
<v Speaker 1>it's not right. But does it justify interviewing forty seven

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01:38:55.520 --> 01:39:00.359
<v Speaker 1>people watching hours of footage. And the question I have

1551
01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:05.760
<v Speaker 1>is another question, how much money did this public university

1552
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:10.439
<v Speaker 1>spend on this? You know, if he said it and

1553
01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he was surrounded by his friends, you know, let them

1554
01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:18.079
<v Speaker 1>take care of it. It's just you. I mean, nobody

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01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>can condone that, and I certainly am not condoning it.

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01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>But there's got to be a little common sense in

1557
01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:29.399
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Although that's a lot to ask. This one,

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01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say for last because this one really

1559
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>really hits a nerve with me. Eighteen years after almost

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<v Speaker 1>ruining the lives of three duke lacrosse players, stripper slash

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01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>murderer admits to making it all up. That story broke

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01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. And you know, I guess

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01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:56.119
<v Speaker 1>it depends on what age are, whether you remember this

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01:39:56.279 --> 01:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>or not. It was unbelievable. That's just long story short.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was three duke lacrosse players. This fraternity,

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01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was the lacrosse fraternity had a party

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01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and they invited a couple of strippers. Not a good idea,

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01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>not a good idea at all. Well, one of the

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01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:22.079
<v Speaker 1>strippers told the cops that the boys raped her. The

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01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:26.479
<v Speaker 1>young men raped her. It didn't happen. There was zero

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01:40:27.199 --> 01:40:31.439
<v Speaker 1>credible evidence. The prosecutor's name was Mike Nyphong. He was

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01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>running for reelection and he was reaping all of this

1573
01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:39.119
<v Speaker 1>public for the time, public praise for what he did.

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01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:42.720
<v Speaker 1>He ended up he had to resign and he actually

1575
01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:47.399
<v Speaker 1>went to jail for one year. But let me in

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01:40:47.439 --> 01:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>the closings. I want to just single out one person

1577
01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:54.439
<v Speaker 1>for a real raspberry on this, and that's Nancy Grace,

1578
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the alleged legal analyst. Back then, she frickasied these boys.

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01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just awful and she didn't apologize.

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01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>And since this woman come out and it said it

1581
01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:10.720
<v Speaker 1>was a lie, said nothing and that ain't right. Hey,

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01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:13.199
<v Speaker 1>but I'm out of time. Thanks again to Willie for

1583
01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>let me sub for him. I'll be in tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 1>On Saturday midday, Mike Allen seven hundred WLW.

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