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Speaker 2: I'm your host Jeff Grubb and with me is Mike Manati.
Speaker 1: In today's episode, GTA six was delayed again. Our greaders
might be the extraction shooter for us, and we're going
to talk about what we think Microsoft.
Speaker 2: And Sony maybe some other publishers might have In twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty six, we did that for Nintendo on nintend Dogs
on Tuesday, so let's hit everyone else tonight.
Speaker 2: But first, Mike, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: Uh oh, just traveling, lots of traveling, and it's like,
I'm so crunched for time for traveling. And then I
was like, I mentioned something offhand about playing dragon Quest
one on Giant Bomb and I didn't do that, and
I'm a bad person and I'm not gonna be here tomorrow,
so I better do that now. I played dragon Quest
one on Giant Bomb right before this and that was
fun actually, so that was a good time. I'm glad
I did that, But I mean, I'm not like as
about the traveling. I'm just getting worried is about all
this flight cancelation stuff, and I'm like, great, So, like
what happens if I'm in DC and they can't sol
my flight home? I guess I just ran a car
and drive back. It's not the worst thing.
Speaker 1: To ask what Steph was considering doing for New York.
She did get she did make her flight, and it
was fine for the most part. It seems like there's
a good chance you'll be completely fine. But yeah, I
was definitely looking at the same thing for when we
go to Minneapolis, which, by the way, that flight was expensive,
so it's like, okay, I should book that a while ago.
Speaker 2: Good moves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do the thing where like I don't want
to think about the trip after the next trip, even
though like I have to because that trip is less
than a month away.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's uh, you're definitely not wrong. I was doing
the same thing.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I definitely like looked up prices
last week and it's like, oh, since then, it's of
course because it's a week out now, so of course.
Speaker 2: It's more expensive. I don't know what I was thinking,
but yeah, I'm like, Okay, if I get stuck out there.
Speaker 1: I could probably get on the train and take that
because that goes to Cleveland, that goes actually not like
to one town over from where I live. So I'd
probably do that. But still not a great situation. I
hope you're hope everything just goes smooth for you.
Speaker 3: They gotta get this ship figured out. I tell Hi,
I'm going to Disney, not not gonna take it anymore.
Speaker 1: It's marked on their calendar, I think. So I think
Nancy will do something for you. She'll come through for you.
Speaker 3: H At that point, it's like, all right, no more
of this shit. I don't know. I'm not super tuned
in with like the political side of it at the moment.
Jeff like it's somebody gonna blink soon on all this,
because the this seems pretty bad the airplanes, right, or
do you think it's still gonna be shut down for
quite a while.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna still be shut down for
quite a while. But I think they're testing the idea
of like he always backs down eventually and he still
claims victory. But after the elections, it's like, oh, clearly
that was a referendu of saying everyone does blame him
for it, blames Trump for the shutdown, and so that's
gonna embolden the Democrats and they will likely continue with
their strategy of not giving in until the Republicans agreed
to extend healthcare subsidies which they are trying to take
away from people.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I bet it doesn't get It's not gonna get solved
magically in like the next day or two.
Speaker 2: But it's actually it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna take a couple of weeks because he likes to
pretend that he's well, he's on power, but he likes
to flex on people and then pretend that he wants still.
So it's gonna take like at least a week, a
week and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see. I do think it'll get solved
here relatively soon, though not not anytime in the next
couple of days.
Speaker 3: I want to be clear that I don't want to
be I'm not I don't want to be like I'm inconvenience.
They should just give.
Speaker 2: Up to the healthcare thing. Everyone's inconvenience, that's the thing,
and like a lot of people are not getting paid
and yeah, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's like the thing going to the airport and like, oh,
this this person is not getting paid right now that
I'm looking at this person right now who's not getting
paid and they're working their jobs, they're considered mandatory and it's.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that sucks. That's not good.
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Speaker 2: All right, big topics.
Speaker 1: Grand Theft Auto six delayed to November nineteenth, twenty twenty six. Yeah,
this felt this felt like this was gonna happen. It
was like in the air there for me for a minute.
Although god, mete are they doing this to distract from
the fact that they were union busting?
Speaker 2: Like did they announce? Oh man, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, why don't you go on the news a
little bit longer?
Speaker 2: I guess, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So the other half of that is Grand Theft Auto
developer Rockstar fired thirty to forty people in the last
week for what they say is sharing privileged information and
they called it gross misconduct. And apparently the place where
they were sharing this information was a private union discord
server where the people were discussing unionizing and they were
maybe discussing stuff related to work in this union channel,
but that's not an approved slack channel, I guess, so
that is the excuse rock Star came up with the
Independent Workers of or something like that. IWGB, a Great
Britain union group, spoke out on this and said it's
like one of the most blatant examples of union busting
in the history of the video game industry. Rockstar does
deny that, but I mean, it seems like they fired
people for being in this union discord. Meanwhile, they're delaying
their big game until November, and again, like that just
felt like it was going to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's funny because like before it got
delayed at all, it's like I don't know if granted
thought it will get delayed. Then once that one delay happened,
it's like, yeah, boy, now we're off to the races
on that thing, Like yeah, right, Like is it even
really a twenty twenty six game.
Speaker 2: I guess we'll see.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I honestly do care so much
more about this union busting thing because that is just gross.
And even if they even if for some reason they're
legally able to say that the issue here is like, whoa,
this wasn't an official work discord server and they you know,
talk about secrets blah blah blah. It's obvious that they
were looking for that because they're upset about them talking
about unions and that's the real thing there, and that's
really gross from a company that is going to make
a zillion dollars with their super expensive GTA game. GTA
I just feel so I feel so weird. I've always
I've always been a little bit like I don't like
gt as much as everyone else, and then everything about
GTA and it being the biggest thing in the world,
and it just kind of it's like it's like the
industry needs it, but also it seems bad for in
the industry.
Speaker 1: I just I don't feel great about GTA. Yeah, I've
never been the biggest fan. I like GTA three a
whole bunch, and that was always just kind of like
it was almost a party game. We'd go hang out
and we'd pass the control around and do fun stuff
in Grand Theft Auto three and that's my that's my jam.
Speaker 2: I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: Nothing ever really recaptured the magic of that for me personally.
But yeah, so it's never been a game I'm like, oh,
I just absolutely can't wait to play that. It's more
like a professional curiosity. Let's see what's going to happen
and what effect it's going to have, and is it
going to like like boost the sales of these flagging
consoles that are are kind of falling off a cliff
a little bit in terms of their relevancy. And I
think all that stuff will happen whenever the game does
come out. But when it comes to this union busting
and it's like, you know, these companies, we see how
they behave when they are trying to just like find
growth anywhere where it's like micro transactions and everything, and
raising prices at every possible opportunity, just like peeling the
nickels and dimes away from us as much as.
Speaker 2: They possibly can.
Speaker 1: The idea that they then might have to share the
efforts of like they're scraping that money off of everyone
from you know, the efforts of the labor of the
people actually producing the games, and share that in the
long term way with the people responsible for making the
game scares the hell out of them.
Speaker 2: And it's.
Speaker 1: At certain point it's like, okay, you should be forced
to do that then if you're really that scared of it.
But regulation being the way it is, even in places
like Europe where you know, the rock Stars primarily based
in was it Scotland, I think that is the kind
of thing where these companies as much as long as
they can get away with it, they will do it.
So the question will be are they going to be
able to get away with this move? And you know,
as far as we understand it does seem to me
in my opinion, like it is definitely used union busting,
but they're going to claim, hey, don't these people did
violate their contracts.
Speaker 2: So it's going to come down to someone stepping in
something like.
Speaker 1: There will be legal battle and these people will have
to try to fight them, and I bet Rockstar is
going to just want to settle here in a couple
of months and then they might be able to just
kind of get away with this, and that's going to
be really disappointing.
Speaker 2: And then Rockstar will go on.
Speaker 1: To release the biggest game ever released, the most profitable
media event, probably outside of a Final Fantasy seven crossover
with Magic the Gathering, it'll be just short of that maybe,
but otherwise it's going to make a ton of money
and they will continue to do this, and it's a
real shame because rock Star is this is in this
moment where they're like they've rehabilitated their image a little bit,
where they're like, hey, we're not you know, pounding people
with NonStop just like work hours and leading up to
the release of a game. We're not going to just
kill them with crunch and we're doing a lot better
on that.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but underneath.
Speaker 1: You were still Rockstar and this is all the proof
we need of that.
Speaker 3: Well, that's all exactly right. Yeah, I just wonder if
they're going to get away with it, right, But I
didn't think about that with the delay because even I'll
tell you what it works because I was like, oh, wow,
GTA is and that's all I was thinking about for
a moment there. Boy boy, you're right, and what I
like about that we'll get to it later. And then
uh that rise of that Marvel rise of Hydrate game,
like we're delayed too, and I think that was such
a we're gonna sneak in there while everyone's talking about
GTA being uh huh, they probably do. That game wasn't
gonna be coming out when they said it was for
a long time, but now today they put it on
a tweet.
Speaker 2: Right now, it's real. That game doesn't feel like it'll
ever come out like a real video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a really cinematic it's World War two
and you play as Captain America and the Black Panther
almost sid These are like the facts about it, but like,
like what is it?
Speaker 2: What is Yeah, I guess it's I don't know. They're
gonna be an action game. It's it's the it's the
Amy Hennit game, right, It's Amy Henny. So it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Like story focus and it's gonna probably have a lot
of set pieces. But like I can't just say it's
gonna like uncharted. I mean maybe it is. Captain America
had a gun at that time. I don't think the
Black Panther did. No, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Games are weird right now, it's it's extremely weird. It
also just feels like I use the term like the
fever will break. It does still feel like that's gonna
happen for like big games, where like it will happen
because some developer was able to accidentally discover some cool
innovation that makes triple A gaming fun and surprising again. Uh,
but for now it feels like it's just kind of
paint by numbers and make those numbers as big and
shiny as possible, and spend all your money on that,
and it puts all these games in a.
Speaker 2: Weird rut to the point where it's like.
Speaker 1: Well, we're just looking forward to GTA six because we
know that will be the biggest and the shiniest, and
then we'll kind of see what other tech they're able
to come up with. I will be surprised still if
Grand Theft Auto six makes twenty twenty six at this point,
not as surprised as I am that or was not
as surprise because I was whatever about this one happening,
Like this delay felt like inevitable. I don't think another
delay is inevitable, but I still think it's very much
on the temple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely on the table. Like gosh, it's a point
where it is just gosh, twenty twenty seven. It is
still so wild that we so quickly got to a
point where it's like, release three Grand Theft Auto games
for one generation, and now it's like you'll get one
every fifteen or twenty years.
Speaker 2: M hm, yep, and Mapis can tell it's like this
is probably be the last Grand theft auto I see
in my life new Grand theft auto. It's like, yeah,
like for a lot of us.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think we get another one in twenty
like for twenty years. It'll be twenty years. As long
as everything goes to plan with this one, there.
Speaker 3: Will not be a new Grand Auto in the twenty thirties.
Speaker 2: You're right. The next Grand bottle will come out in
the forties. Yes, in the forties. I don't like it.
Nobody likes it. But that's that definitely.
Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, it can't be like that.
Speaker 2: Jeezus Christ reality.
Speaker 1: I mean they told us flat out, like hey, or
a developer it at Rockstar tots flat out we just
stopped making DLC. I guess a developer was Dan Hauser
because Grand the thought online was so successful and it's like, yeah,
that'll certainly be the focus for them, so here we go,
uh all right, and then that yeah, the rise of
hydrich delay the thing.
Speaker 2: Last thing there was.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't think they gave like a new timeframe.
Speaker 1: It was originally or previously stated would come out in
like early twenty twenty six or something like that. Right now,
it's an indiffinite time, like they're like they have not
provided a new date of any kind for the release
of this game. I yeah, I think they're going to
like reintroduce it, right like we're not. The next thing
we hear from this game isn't a date. It probably
is like the final full reveal trailer to like just
actually say what the game is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, because like you said, like I don't
really know what this game is, Like I know, you know,
you know, it has things going for or immediately because
it is Marvel and it is Amy Hennig. But like
both of those things like Marvel and video games, that's
not some guarantee. We've been seeing uh you know, products
get canceled or just kind of you know, fizzle out.
Amy Henning hasn't been able to release a game since
the PS three Days, right, Uh, I'm right. I mean
I think A Chart three was the last run yep.
So I mean it's it's crazy we still say that
name and we kind of you know, there's reverence there,
but gosh, since the PS three Days, that's wild. So yeah,
I mean it's not like, oh, she probably has the
talent anymore. I hope she does, but far from a
guarantee that her being involved. Games good and play On
is publishing this game, Jeff way On and sky Dance
Games is involved, liked games. That's the the Skydance New
Media is the developer, right, it's the vision of sky Dance.
So Amy Hennick's studio was funded founded by sky Dance,
and then play On, which is formerly cock Media from Austria,
is publishing it as a part of the Embracer group.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's just so much about this that is, like, boy,
I believe this game actually comes out when I'm playing it, Yeah,
it has. It just seems like it's got so much
going against it just from circumstance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like trying to find like this. Skydance Games
is other projects.
Speaker 1: It's it's all the stars here in Mike, The Walking Dead,
saintsan Center's Retribution of course that's probably their biggest game.
And then Behemoth, what do you know, what does that
sound familiar?
Speaker 2: Behemoth? Behemoth?
Speaker 3: Behemoth so generic sound beheman, there's the Behemoth. They make
video Yeah, they make video.
Speaker 1: Games, The Behemoth, And I know that because I go
to packs and then the other one here is, oh,
it's it's just another Yeah it's a.
Speaker 3: Oh no, untitled Star Wars game. Jeff, don't forget about that, of.
Speaker 1: Course, yes, because this is a VR game, this Behemoth game.
I don't know either way. This feels like a project
that is a bit big for them. But also, you
know they have Larry Ellison's Oracle billions, you know, the
actual new richest man in the world once again, that's
his kids run sky Dance, and so they should just
have endless money over there. But who knows if they
are getting any attention because they're busy buying fucking Paramount
and everything else in the world. So hooray, all right,
last thing here our greators reviews. Yeah, let's see, we
could pop that in here and talk about this. I'm
still surprised that thing's at a ninety three on Open Critic.
I mean, it's really good. It's surprised to be that
people instantly sort of got it the second it launched.
Speaker 2: Are you surprised? I mean.
Speaker 3: It's just pretty rare when you see one of these
kind of life service things do that well, right reviews, Right, Like,
what are Fortnite's reviews. That's actually that's the fun exercise.
I've got god open critic and type in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of, let me guess I'm gonna say, because
most of those reviews had to have happened, but I'm
sure it had a lot of reviews since then.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it has an eighty Here's.
Speaker 3: What's it's really weird because it's Fortnite Battle Royal.
Speaker 2: It's what you look up.
Speaker 3: It has an eighty four based off of seventeen review
in the biggest game of the world, one of the.
Speaker 2: Most played games ever, seventeen reviews.
Speaker 3: That is that is very ind Yeah, you know, I'm
not surprised Dark Riders is, you know, doing well. It
seems like it's definitely has It's doing what it needs
to do for people. It's that game, but in a
way that's really attractive for new bees and fans of
that genre, which is you know, that's that's that's the
secret sauce right there. There's some buzz around it. I know,
we had a good time with it. I kind of
do want to play some more. I would be playing
more if I wasn't feeling a little duty bound to
play Fortnite because they added Simpsons and Disneyland to it
and like the same we yep. They put out the
Sirens song specifically for you, and they got you. They
were able to get you in there and fall into
their trap.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been playing it on my steam deck here or
there a little bit, and I'm certainly understanding the appeal,
like I was saying that earlier, and that's good. That's
how I continue to feel where it's like, oh yeah,
I am not playing it right now, and I am
imagining how I would feel if I were playing it,
and that feels good, So I'm gonna go do that.
Speaker 2: The loop is is pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: The idea of just everything you get, feeding these resource
like hoses back in your home base and upgrading that stuff.
It's like, okay, I could just see myself doing that
and like playing solo. And I played a little bit
with Christian the other night when I was just SA
on my steam deck and it worked really well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's it's been good. It was just
just I like the way it looks. I just think
it has an.
Speaker 3: It's a good aesthetic. I didn't realize be in Ohio
Bi it's Toledo.
Speaker 2: That's fun.
Speaker 3: I saone in my cheat told me that maybe they're
a eying. But at least one of the maps is Toledo.
Speaker 2: I think Speranza is Italy. Is that Toledo? It might
be Toledo, and right is in Toledo and Spain.
Speaker 3: Oh, they were joking with me.
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: It happens in Italy.
Speaker 5: What are you what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Is there a Toledo in Italy?
Speaker 3: Toledo, Toledo, Ohio is named after a Toledo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so much more. Hey, it got me for
a second. I was like working through it. So yeah,
Toledo's nice. It should take a place in Toledo. They
got a nice uh science museum there. I had a
good time.
Speaker 3: So whenever we talk about skin of play it, I
feel like there are like some people in chat who
you know, get up said about the AIS of this,
what is the AI factor of the game aside from
like the voice modulation stuff, because I think it's.
Speaker 1: Choose the voice modulation stuff for the most part. I
think they might use like speed, but we talked about that.
Speaker 3: Before, like the like, so like those characters who talk
at the base are those voice actors talking to me
or is.
Speaker 1: That I think that those are voice actors voices who
they Someone mentioned this to me and I can't remember who.
Now that those are voice actors that were paid initially
and they agreed to have the an AI model trained
on their voices so that this company could then continue
to use those those voices for other lines in the future.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think we're there's a lot
of speculation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I don't know, because they don't sound AI
at all to me, and what they.
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet we're not hearing any of those
I bet we're not hearing any AI lines, and if
we do, we might still and which at which point
that would stink.
Speaker 2: But nothing I've heard is like jumped off the screen.
Speaker 1: At me as sounding like, oh that is just someone's
voice being filtered through an AI program.
Speaker 5: This is my theory.
Speaker 4: The voices, the voice modulation. I was like fucking around
the other day with you. Those voices sound exactly like
the voices of the characters we use, and I think
they're talking about that, and maybe it's like when they
add a new item to the world, they're gonna use
that AI boys to like Mike bet the that item
because they.
Speaker 2: Did the finals. People are pointing out that the finals
work the same way.
Speaker 5: Yeah in the finals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the voices of the people, like the announcer, those
are a I and you can't tell because they're pretty
you know, pretty bad. But here the NPCs the traders
don't sound like at all. So maybe it's really good.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's gonna continue happening in games
like this and all shapes and sizes. This game is
not some tiny little thing. It is well funded and
has a team of two hundred and fifty people or
something like that, so it's it's strange.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you know, like the voice modulation stuff whatever,
that could even be kind of neat. But like if this,
if your game is this and it's even doing well,
I don't I don't think I want you to be
making computer voices for your characters.
Speaker 1: You can, especially you're making a ton of money. Where
this game is going to make a ton of money.
It's like, just bring the actors back and pay them,
just pay them again.
Speaker 3: You're just seeing everything going on with Square Inox. Yeah,
a little bit we was taught. We were talking about
before you joined.
Speaker 1: My understanding is that Square Inox kind of cleaned house
a little bit on their publishing side and maybe some
other parts of their Their might have offices, a lot
of lessoners. Stuff's a lot of UK jobs on apparently
the US stuff in North America and Europe and ye
specifically in the UK. Yeah, they are trying to centralize
all those efforts back in Japan. And then I think
they said they didn't so many people they laid off,
because that's that's not what matters. They said how much
money it's going to save them. It's something like nineteen
million dollars a year, which, okay, yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of money.
Speaker 5: For a square Inex. It's it's like it's even that.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like think like back to like when
I was covering earnings calls frequently, I'm like, what what
were like Eya's like profits, and it was like one
hundred of millions of dollars. I think their revenues are
in the billions or at least one billion dollars for
a lot of these companies per year. Is squaring its
close to that, I don't know, maybe not, but they're
they're certainly not nineteen dollars is not or nineteen million
dollars is not going to change their fortune in any
real way. Obviously, this is just part of an effort
to cut costs in a bunch of different ways, and
they're hoping that'll add up and it looks good to investors,
so they just keep doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Do you think, like when the guy's talking to the
investors and saying things like we want seventy percent of
our quality assurance and debugging to be done by AI
by twenty tway seven, there's a being serious? Or is
this like when they were talking a lot about NFTs
back in the day and then they did some of
that bullshit but either they immediately saw it wasn't working,
or that so much that was shareholder research. I don't know.
It's just a pretty dis pretty concerning to be seeing
that talk from them, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, because I think that they are saying it,
and whether they believe it or not, they'll try because
it's the thing. It's the meme like oh, turning the
dial and looking back to the audience to see how
much they're excited about it. Investors. Investors do like to
hear this and it doesn't seem like the AI doing
QA jobs was related to these layoffs, but it's all
certainly part of the same concept of reducing costs across
the board. And that's where these big publishers are at
because they continue to flounder when it comes up when
it comes to creating new ideas, new games that can
sell to new audiences and grow and attract a vibrant
community of players. That they're sort of lost when it
comes to that, So they have to keep cutting costs
for now and hope for the best, hope they like
sort of break through and get on the other side,
and then suddenly there's a ton of people waiting for them.
And it's like, I think what you're gonna find is
you're going to have your lunch eating repeatedly, and you
certainly are not going to like fade into irrelevancy. But
there are going to be a lot of people who
just wake up one day be like, I'll just go
play some persona and I will be happy with the
next Expedition thirty three instead of whatever Squarenix is doing.
And you know, and of course the Squerenix puts out
a bangor Final Fantasy all those people show back up,
but in the meantime, it just feels like this is
a company that doesn't have a good direction or good vision.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and they're yeah, it's so weird. They cannot
really quite seem to figure it out, and I don't
know if they will. They're in and off here because
it's been a while since A found Fancy fourteen expansion
and people didn't even like the last one for yourself,
that Dragon Quest twelve, Oh my god, dragon question wait?
Speaker 2: Uh oh god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible that you like things like dntro and
then don't like foun Fancy seven remake. I'm sorry we
don't have to talk about it, but I'm a bit incredible.
Uh yeah, Dragquach twelve doesn't seem like it's anywhere close
to coming out still, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when's the last time they like mentioned it. They've
like even done like a real.
Speaker 3: Why it's been a lot, and the last time they
mentioned it, I mean it was very much like when
you know the way they're can't talking about Fantasy twelve,
like we're gonna streamline this. I wonder if there's still
streamlining its, But boy, the fo Fantasy crowd didn't want that.
The dragon Quest crowd definitely doesn't want that. They just
want their dragon Quest to be they want. Yeah, there's
the people who just want their games to not change
that much, maybe make them look pretty or sure, but
if they try to make like an action RPG and
call that Dragon Quest twelve, oh bully.
Speaker 2: All right, I think that's gonna do it. For the
big stories of the week.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I'm sure there's other things we can talk about,
but we'll turn to our super chats for that. So
we'll go to break, come back, Michael, read some super chats.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about what you guys want to talk about
right after this.
Speaker 1: All right, we're back. It's Decides and it's time for
super chats. Mike Manatti, please take it away.
Speaker 3: Nathan Maloney says, with the news of Miss Piggy's be
coming soon, what is your dream Muppets game? Buppets keen
Work's for current three D platformer dating sim I always,
whenever I like try to realistically think about the Muppets
and Kingdom Hearts, I'm like, I don't think they're gonna
do a Muppets world, but they have like Disney characters
as summons in that game, and I'm like, give me
a great Gonzo summon, Like he just comes in the
battlefield being shot out of a cannon and then he just,
I don't know, it does something wacky the entire time.
He just looks like it's just gonzo. I would eat
that up like crazy. Otherwise, like I don't for like
a game, go honestly, give me a warrior where like
but it's just all muppy instead.
Speaker 2: Oh that's fun, that's good.
Speaker 1: I was thinking Lego City Undercover, but muppets, like, just
give me a GTA based clone where it's just fun
sam boxy stuff. But it's we're just walking through various
Muppet references, and you know, it could be like an
actual city in some ways because the muppets exist in
the real world, but then they can like you know,
they're to be a part of town that's Sesame Street
and you go visit those muppets over there.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That could be.
Speaker 3: Fun paradigm dream and chats at sport, but it's muppets
like something that actually was like make your own muppets
and yeah, that's give it like make little fits with
them or something. Right, like the old cartoon studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Drunk Kid ninety two, says Grub. If you didn't have kids,
what would be in their bedrooms instead? Mike, if you
had a kid, what room would you have to give up?
Speaker 1: You go ahead, Jeff, Yeah, So I think one would
probably just be like a reading room.
Speaker 2: Or like basically a den. And then I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't need another room really for anything. I got
my you know, the basement down here. Half of it
is my office, so I'm pretty much well set up.
But I suppose I might make it like a Mike.
You know, when we were at Cleveland Gaming Expo and
one of those rooms was set like all those like
places says that were set up like retro rooms or
looked like a pizza they do something like that. A den, yeah,
have like an old Yes, an old den. I would
like the nineteen eighties grandmother's basement in one.
Speaker 2: Of my room.
Speaker 3: A lot of wood paneling and like wood ages. Yeah,
earth tones, my children in wood paneling. Right now, let's good.
There you go do it or do it? You said
up a bit. I mean the only room I have
that I could that's like, not my bedroom or a
kitchen or a living room. Is this room the office?
So I guess, I guess be that I would just
shove my computer into my bedroom somewhere, right, I would
just do that. But yeah, like for some reason I
saw that kids, I think I would have to move right,
that's right, I mean that's a new place. Uh huh yeah, uh,
screaming mantus is Mike. I cooked and burnt ends for dinner.
It wasn't authentic since he's an oven to cook rather
than a smoker, but the ends justify the leans A
what a terrible joke.
Speaker 1: Wow, you said oven with that much disgust in your voice.
Speaker 3: Whatever it's won't get the delicious smoky flavor, of course not. Yeah,
that's good. God brands new, So I'm pretty good. Michael
O'Leary says snugget to the upcoming and sold out Walt
Disney World five came January by joining the World Wildlife
Fun Team. Hit me up if you'd like to donate
to helping animals here.
Speaker 2: That sounds fun. That's cool, January.
Speaker 3: It's funny how every time I see World Wildlife fue
I'm still like, those are the people who made WWE
change their name Yeah, that's what I think too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm like, hey, you go Worldwidelife Wildlife Fund.
You seem better than the WWF, but still it's weird.
I'm so used to WWF.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's one of those things where it's like I'll never
get used to w w E. And then it's like,
I guess you can get used to anything.
Speaker 2: I got used to the WEI. I'll get used to anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually it's fine. Yeah, Okay, what's in Tolly
Moere Else says we're finally going to get the gamer
rep to crime Osy. You'll get it, He'll get it
before Kingdom Hearts final mix bits.
Speaker 1: Saying about a month he came up with that Gilligan's
song in like a day, not even you were just
like you kind of like just sat down and if
he puts his mind to it, it'll be done in
no time.
Speaker 3: Literally just a time issue.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Jazz and Jazz and Chats saying they they delayed the
game meaning Grenzel six to avoid the Wow expansion of course. Yeah,
what is Midnight coming out? I guess it's that you
just read that.
Speaker 1: You also saw that they were like, look, we would
tell you if we were going to release this game
on console.
Speaker 2: We're not doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, they're not doing it. I mean it's
also a big we would tell you like, I mean,
you would tell us eventually. Yeah, probably it would be
a secret like obviously.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know what you're talking
about there.
Speaker 3: Uh, to take a blizz Con again too. I do
miss Bliscon was so fun back when I would go.
I don't know if it's going to be the same,
but there's a part of me that maybe wants to
look into going to blizz Con. The beta for Midnights
is in November. I guess it doesn't have an exact
release it yet, just early twenty twenty six. I want
to check out Midnight when it comes out. I'm in
the mood for a little World of warcrafting And yes,
I'm also I'm not surprised there's not a console version
of World of war Craft. Apparently there are some pretty
good mods for that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But that's what everyone chat was saying, So I believe you.
I'm sure. I'm sure people have like spent the time
to figure out what that would look like. Right.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know it can quote unquote be done, although
I wonder like, are the people at the mods are
they doing like the raids? I'm sure some of them are.
Yeah yeah. Next up is Jason Fulton, which comes out
first when wacer try Princess on switch to or GTA six.
Speaker 1: Remember the fortieth anniversary of Zelda. Yeah, so there's a
part where like they might both come out around the
same time.
Speaker 2: Maybe actually that's likely, Yeah, that could happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah if they you know, if they were to take
with the fortieth anniversary. Really, seriously, what do you think
that would look like? Because it's like the fortieth anniversary
of the Legend of Zelda. Do they do a remake
of the Legend of Zelda or something like that, or
do they just release re release some later game and
be like, hey, this is how we're celebrating.
Speaker 2: They have.
Speaker 3: They have not remade an eight bit or a sixteen bit.
I guess they remade Mario RPG not too long though, huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, but they didn't really make that game.
Speaker 2: You know, it was a square, a square game.
Speaker 1: There was that ampure research person who was like, uh,
these companies like Nintendo are leaving tons of money on
the table because a remake of the Legend of Zelda
Link to the Past would make Vuco bucks, and it's like, yeah,
I'm sure Nintendo is well aware of that, and I
do wonder like what their conversations are around that sort
of thing of like when do we go back and
start remaking these older games, or maybe they have some
sort of like generalized stance against it where they're like, no,
we're Nintendo. We do new and wonderful games and don't
have to go back to the well like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, because like obviously they do do remakes.
There's some strategy to it, like they're just not going
to constantly constantly do it. I mean if they if
they did, I mean, there would have just been an
operam time remake right now and for everybody else that
we got, you know, yeah, we had some ports, we
had one remake of it on the three DS, And
in terms of what they do for this one, I
don't know. It's like you expect something big ish, it's
not going to be like the new big Zelda game,
because it's just not the time for that yet. I
bet a lot of merchandises the answer something like it
won't be that game. Watch, but stuff like that, you
will have something like when Laker and Twilight Princess. So
just sometime we had Galaxy one and two, and maybe
maybe there's something bigger like an Okerran Time remake.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I hope so.
Speaker 3: Nick schupp here is from Phantom twenty three, says, driving
to Disney from New Jersey, thanks for the company and
welcome I've done. I've done Ohio to Disney road trips
all all the time. Not all the time, but I've
done a dozen or so of them maybe in my
life maybe even Yeah, it's ah. I recommend having a
dad who's real dad about driving places. That helps a lot.
They like don't want to make stops, they don't want
to sleep for the night. They want to do it
in one day, even though it's a detriment to their health.
That makes it really easy for me.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I just sleep.
Speaker 3: I'm a passenger princess, man, I just go like go sleepy,
and then it's like I wake up and I teleport
it to Disney.
Speaker 2: It's nice, that's nice, that's cool. How How uh how far.
Speaker 3: Of a drive does something had to be where you're like,
I'm just flying?
Speaker 2: Well, if it's just me, Mike. There's kind of like
no distance. I wouldn't drive.
Speaker 1: I like driving, and that could be an adventure of
its own. But like if we're talking about okay, there's
other mitigating factors like hey, I have to get back
home or I have other responsibilities. Then it's like, okay,
I was looking at like what if I drived out.
Speaker 2: To Minneapolis so I don't have to worry about the
flying and stuff like that. But if I fly, it's
like an hour in the air. It's it's so fast
it's kind of pointless to do it.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I think around six hours is
where I'm really like, Okay, that's probably on the border
of I am now wasting my time in probably some
other people's time.
Speaker 3: Right by not just flying, because I got a point
like like five hours. Even if it's a one hour flight,
it's like, well by the time, like by time I
like going there and getting there early and all this stuff,
it's like basically the same amount of time.
Speaker 2: It's close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So it's close. Like even this even
when we did this New Jersey trip, there's probably like
I could have probably just driven that. Really if I
wanted to, but I didn't want to, so we flew.
Then I paid for it with the awful trip back
Jezz with five gifted memberships. By the way, thank you
so much, Jeff, Really Jazz really appreciate that it's called
you with Jeff. Also, sorry about that, Thanks Jeff, upsetting
Antonio more else's grub. How's it feel being an ugly
friend now, Sean? How's it feel to be the best
looking employee at Giant Bomb Penis?
Speaker 2: I find it very welcoming. This is this is where
I'm home. I'm used to being the ugly friend, and
now now that everyone's acknowledging you there to gain, I
feel very good about it. This is where I want
to be.
Speaker 6: I'm glad Jeff has been putting in his place as
the ugly friend. This makes me thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I haven't been labeled. I'm so fragile, So
Coast Shooter says, got my new MG one platinum today
with the Giant Bomb front panel. Hell yeah, so ajo
prison seems really good for it. Hey, thank you so much.
That's a yeah, that's a good year. We were really
happy living gear. Everybuddy so like uh, you know, it's you.
Speaker 2: Know, go buy those computers like my computers.
Speaker 3: You know, God, I'm excited to plug my end. They
were definitely a really great partner. It's just know, it's like, yeah,
I'm glad people are, you know, doing the thing that
they're you know, they're hoping for. They're hoping to give
us all this treatment when I'm hoping that people buy
a pinwork computer.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad some people are. It's nice. So did
you did you buy it that night, like when we
were doing the marathon?
Speaker 1: Like, did you buy it very early on? Because you
like the Giant Bomb front panel? Did you mean like
the standard Giant Bomb one and not like one of
the the other ones from like one of us.
Speaker 3: Probably, I assume probably that stay the Giant Bomb one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because early on it was like every single one
that was sold was apparently back Lars. I wonder if
there was some confusion there. I wonder if what some
of these other ones actually did sell.
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe one of yours did sell. Mike, who knows?
Speaker 3: Who knows? If you bought my panel? To tell me,
I'll give you some No, I'll bribe you buy my panel.
I'll pay for it no, I won't pay for it.
Let's see your nextcept.
Speaker 2: Is Oh yeah, Adrian Imprisonment. That is a game that's out.
Speaker 1: Huh, it's like fully out, Like you could just go
buy it right now.
Speaker 2: I'm I might because I'm stupid, but I don't know.
I don't have time for it. That's that's a new
legend of Zota game kind of.
Speaker 1: I think I think the plan is because we were
having we were going to do some fox Hunt tomorrow
on UPF, but uh, it's weird and not worth the hassle,
and not everyone has dealt on the same platform, and
that that's a panks doesn't have cross play. So I
think there's a chance that we might do some age
to Imprisonment with a special guest star who's an expert
in that Musso series. Come help us out tomorrow, Yes,
tune in for that.
Speaker 2: Plus you know she cut off.
Speaker 3: Her microphone from her headset anyways, so Dan worked on that. Yep, oh,
let's see her. The next up is from fires betifect
Day here in the UK aka my birthday, O, happy birthday, fire.
Speaker 2: Her happy birthday right months backwards.
Speaker 1: So today is and no no, wait, yes, no, and
wait what November seventh, in seven.
Speaker 2: So it's passed night.
Speaker 3: That's how it works. Yes, yeh okay, it's going to
be in seven day for us as well. Then I'm stupid.
Speaker 2: I'm no.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Mike, all these days are stupid as well.
Like I'm not saying you're not stupid, you are, but
these days are stupid as well.
Speaker 3: The end seven one is like Miley clever, I make
fun of the last one a lot.
Speaker 4: When the warland, weren't you would you like to celebrate
when the war ended?
Speaker 3: You? Like, I don't know the s gears of war, like,
do they have a date for emergency and they're like
this is our holiday now?
Speaker 2: Maybe? I don't know. At this point, probably are.
Speaker 3: They gonna do you think they're gonna say anything about
mass effect tomorrow?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I mean they'll they might acknowledge that it's still happening,
but I think it's still it's too weird. Like Dragon
Age just came out really in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 3: Boy, it sure did. Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How many copies do you think that game is sold?
Speaker 2: I think it probably did like two million, two to
three million. Ye?
Speaker 3: Interesting, man, boy, that's this is their last Chance. Definitely, Yeah, definitely, happy, Happy,
and seven Day.
Speaker 2: Performer die.
Speaker 3: My Kirk and says, can we get a Baby Steps
Lord of the Rings collab where you get to walk
from the Shire to Mount Doom as Frodo, Samwise and
Gallum could tag along and keep this company?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I would like just a Lloyd of the Rings walking
some games.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hope that that is maybe one of the avenues
that Baby Steps takes going forward, is like collaborations and
they just release like stupid maps based on something like
Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: That that would be a lot of fun. I would
definitely do that. That'd be great.
Speaker 3: That's a Game of the Year, isn't it, you son
a bitch?
Speaker 2: Huh? I mean, who's to say?
Speaker 3: I think it's a I think it's your game.
Speaker 2: I know year.
Speaker 3: I think it's your game year. I've got to play
some more of it. I'm gonna play a little bit
more on my own because I've I've mostly played it
on PARSEK with you being one foot.
Speaker 2: The ideal experience. You got it. You don't need to
play anymore.
Speaker 3: Uh. Connor what says the new Samson move were really good?
A meanness, I'm mad. I'm like coding off on it.
I want to get at least a more sicko womp.
I don't want to get right away, but now I'm
mad that I could.
Speaker 2: Have that right now. Yeah, that'd be amazing, and god,
less than a month from now we're playing that game.
Speaker 3: So I'm not so freaking excited. That last trailer looks
so freaking good. My only I'm only mad now and
I'm not gonna have the time to play two and
three before it comes out, but that's okay, I'll just
do it later whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, very curious to see what Backlar is gonna
say about it. He Backlar went to play it today,
everybody's allowed to say he did.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I was wondering.
Speaker 3: Some people are like, I can't believe Backlar was instead
of you two. It's like, wow, I was in New York.
Speaker 2: So it's in New York, and it's like we're not.
I'm not gonna go out there when he could just
drive there like part of his his car that he owns.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he got to play it. I'm excited to
hear what he's gonna say about it. So we'll do
that here next week.
Speaker 3: Everybody I'm so fer excited. Uh, Ryan Allens is speaking
of collapse. Warhammer Survivors was announced a few days ago.
Vampire and Italy is trying to ruin me both forty
K and Fantasy is Warhammer Survivors.
Speaker 2: Like, what is that is that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It's a Vampire Survivor. Boy, Okay, I this is gonna
something I wish. I wish a better franchise got all
these video games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it up better.
Speaker 3: I guess that's why forgets a million better video games,
said Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 1: I was certainly happier when it was Star Wars getting
all these weird bullshit games back in the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: That was better for me.
Speaker 1: I definitely look at this and like, I wish that
all these other franchises would just take this Warhammer model
and do the exact same thing. But at least Warhammer
gets it. That's fine.
Speaker 2: Some of those games are fun. I enjoy them. They're good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just make your more popular and make it some
people like it, and then you get all this ship.
Speaker 1: That's it's impossible now, Christian, that's never happening again. It
will never be popular again.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Is that that does it for the super chats. Looks
like we are caught up for now. If you still
want to send in a super chair, but well we'll
we will read it before the end of the show.
Thank you so much. Don't come at me, Warmhammer fans,
you know me. It's just a little. It's it's it's
a little it's a little gloomy and cynically for Mikey's.
Speaker 2: He's just a little guy or buddy. It's a little
nobody smiles and no one's happy. That's definitely true. So
why you all just stop? Honestly, if someone smiled and Warhammer,
I'd be terrified to them.
Speaker 5: You don't want that kind of people around you.
Speaker 2: Why are not doing this then? You know, for the Emperor,
for the for the.
Speaker 5: God, Emperor, God, it's a time in place.
Speaker 1: You don't understand because your emperor is not a god
and your God isn't an emperor.
Speaker 2: But if he was God, but I know you'd.
Speaker 3: Do you know what an emperor and empires are though,
I'm impressed because your.
Speaker 4: God doesn't consume a hundred of people every day to
stay alive.
Speaker 1: My God, it consumes one hundred nuggets in less than
twenty four hour period.
Speaker 2: Yea god praise jan.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I should have a depressed god.
Speaker 2: Bad news for you, all right.
Speaker 1: I keep looking at this headline of like take two,
CEO's highly confident on the new GTA six release date, and.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he said that last time too. Yeah,
what is it? Sure? Whatever? Yeah, what's gonna say? We're
still lying? Yeah, yeah, Whatever's that's not what he's gonna say.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's gonna do it for the super
Chats plenty more show to come, but we're gonna take
another break, get set up to talk about our topic
this week, which is, Hey, what did we think of Microsoft?
What do we think Sony? What do we think Electronic
Arts and others are gonna have in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 2: Will do that right after this.
Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, we're calm and collected here and we're ready
to do more game estecize. Okay, Mike, Hey, we talked
about Nintendo and twenty twenty six on Nintendogs on Tuesday.
Let's kind of throw in the rest of the industry
right now and kind of what we think they're gonna
do next year. You know, it's November. We can start
having conversations like what's gonna happen in twenty twenty six now,
because we're at the end of the goddamn year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember having these conversers last year,
and it was a lot of like about talking mostly
talking about Metroid Prime for and yeah, Monster Hunter, and
I think I think I I I think I was like,
I think that Expedition thirty three looks surprisingly good. I
hope that's neat. Yeah, sometimes dreams do come true.
Speaker 2: It works out.
Speaker 1: So let's see if we could spot this year's expedition
or next year's expedition thirty three. Okay, so like you know,
some other ones that I might have some overlap, Like
from Software is gonna have the Dusk Bloods. We talked
about that a little bit on nintend Dogs. I'm still
I'm very, very interested to see what the Nintendo exclusive
from soft game is going to be.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, because whatecond because Gus, they were just not
doing very well putting Elden Ring on there. Now, this
might be an easier task in a lot of ways
because it's a building for the switch tilt. But I
don't know. But you know, I thought I thought that
that from Software fan base was going to reject the
Night Rain because it was just so, what is this
multiplayer battle royal thing? Like this is what people want
and they all they all ate that up also, so
maybe whatever this this PDP focused take on it is,
people are gonna like, although it feels extra weird that
it's like so close to being blood born too right esthetically,
and then it's not gonna be that. I wonder if
there's gonna be less patient for it's you know, maybe
it's just so mechanically sound and interesting that everybody's going
to be really excited and along for the ride, But
it's a it's a big question mark for me. If
you know, if it was Roulette, I'd be a little
bit afraid to put my chips on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, same. It does feel like the safe bet
is this is not like the thing I was hoping
it would be. So I've rejected, but you're right, they
just proved us wrong with the last one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like I said, I'm curious, and most I just
want to see, like what is the solo experience, Like,
like is it going to be like a long I mean,
is it a little bit of like an extraction shooter?
I kind of don't know. What I think it could
be like you go in there trying to get resources
and then at the end you might end up fighting
someone as you all are funneled toward the same thing.
I don't know, we'll see, Okay. So that was the
one like crossover from Tuesday's episode that I wanted to
go over before we got into some other stuff. Let's
let's get Xbox out of the way. Halo campaign evolved.
Remember that thing that's gonna happen. Uh, that's like one
of their big games. And then I think Fable better
come out next year, right, Like it can't go another
year without fighting.
Speaker 3: I mean right, it feels a little bit like it
comes out next year or it don't come out right right,
It does feel that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: There's Gears of More E Eday as well, and Forts
the Horizon six. These are the ones that I think
have all been confirmed one way or another.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: E Day could be like the big like the real
big Fall game probably is going to be that. I mean,
I think it has a twenty guy, it's just twenty
twenty six, so could always be delayed, but it is certainly.
Speaker 2: Time for that one.
Speaker 3: I mean five came out twenty nineteen, So gosh, six years,
that's about right for the Gears series. FORTSA feels like
the even more sure thing. It almost maybe even more
important at this point actually getting Sports the Horizon out there,
especially since we've seen I mean, it seems like the
PlayStation audience embraced sportsa more than it even embraced Gears
of War when they released that remester out there, And frankly,
it's the one I'm kind of a bit more excited about,
especially with the Japan setting that everybody has been asking for.
Halo is interesting because it's, you know, it's this curiosity.
It's a little weird, like I don't why it doesn't
have the multiplayer stuff, but it's strange to do Halo
without a lot of that, at least you know, the
PvP things. But still, that is a campaign that's very iconic.
There will be a novelty to playing that on PlayStation,
I suppose, so just this little you know, floater god.
But yeah, what is fable Man?
Speaker 2: What is that game?
Speaker 3: What does that look like as an actual product? And
I'm still bummed out that we're not talking about uh,
perfect Dark as a possibility. Yeah, when you were looking forward.
Speaker 1: To that went to the bathroom during a break and
I was kind of like putting the stuff together and
it was like, just cannot believe they actually canceled that
game after all these years.
Speaker 3: It is such a bummer, and after all the bullshit
about quadrupley Studio and the you know, like talking about
consolet heat constantly reminding us about it just to be
like never mind. Actually it was embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, embarrassing is the worst.
Speaker 3: It's not like, you know, it's it's a shame that
they have had worse things come up that it's kind
of not brought up as much as it is because
there's been so many other problems there, but it was
one of them. It's one of the just kind of
signs of the Xbox trans position slash end times that
we are a part of rights now. But it's like, yeah,
it's like, you know, they're doing so much to kind
of just catch up on games that have been announced
forever ago and then just kind of up, you know,
give new entries to speak series. Do you really think
there's room for anything new or surprising? There's some there's
that clockwork.
Speaker 1: Yeah, revolution, clockwork revolution, Yeah, that's there's a strong chance
that's out next year, because that is from I can't
remember which studios.
Speaker 2: That is in an exile? Is it an exile? That God?
That man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that's one where it's like, I've they've
never made a game like that before, and so it's like, Okay,
I that doesn't mean they can't handle. That's a very
talented studio. It's made some really good games. But it
also could be the kind of thing where, uh, it
keeps getting delayed or something like.
Speaker 3: That, right, because yeah, it doesn't have a release day.
It's not like it's even set for twenty twenty six, right,
But this was like that last Xbox showcase where it
was called this was like ones like, Wow, that looks
pretty impressive and kind of more exciting than I thought. So,
uh yeah, it could be could be something there.
Speaker 2: What about from?
Speaker 3: But what about the Bethesda side of Xbox?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So, I mean, do we hear anything about the Elder
Scroll six next year? Like even just hear about it.
Speaker 3: I feel like we are gonna hear about it, I think, right,
I don't think it comes out next year, no, which
is a little wild for a game that was announced.
What feels like thirty years ago or whenever when they
showed that thing off for the first time. But like they'll, well,
I bet we'll like get the subtitle, we'll know where
it takes place, stuff like that at least. Uh, but
that that's gonna be it even like Fallout also in
a weird place, unless like they're really fast tracking a
fault remake somewhere what they did of Oblivion, but it's long.
We're going to get a new Fallout game next year.
Speaker 1: I would probably, I mean, they would probably do that
to fall Out three. Reichs they'd Oblivion and Fallout three
came out right after Oblivion, not right yafter obviously.
Speaker 3: Makes sense, so it could be New Vegas with probably three.
They just released that anniversary edition of New Vegas. That
isn't like any updates to the game or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It's just right. It has mods from fans in it,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I think like a Vowed will probably get DLC Doom
the Dark Ages. I wonder if that gets DLC.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was talking about that when I was playing, uh,
when I was doing my dreckless thing, like boy, that
game kind of came.
Speaker 1: And went huh, yeah, Yeah, it missed. I think it
missed the mark. I think that I think they needed
to sort of respect the duology meta right now. Yeah,
you can do two and then you got to really
change things up. And it's like, I think they thought
they were changing things up in some ways, but at
the end, it's like it's at its heart that's still
one of those Doom games with the twenty sixteen Doom sequel.
So yeah, I think they'll have to kind of go
back to the drawing board or give it some time
to breathe. You know, it has a lot of other options.
If they wanted to like just kind of do what
they did a Doom in twenty sixteen to other stuff
like Quake, they could do that.
Speaker 3: The other word, I think it's like Xbox's biggest game
next year is gonna be whatever the next Call of
Duty is, which yep, I mean, why is it time
for the next Infinity Ward one next year? So it'll
be Modern Warfare sixteen or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't even know anymore because what was was last year.
Speaker 1: And this is Black Ops seven now, right exactly, so
it was and then before that for Black Ops six,
it was Modern Warfare, like two Modern Warfares in a row.
Speaker 2: Right, something like that. Yeah, there was a van guard
somewhere before all, there was a vanguard somewhere in there. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just called WW two. Yeah, So I mean I
think especially I think right now they are very much
in a we're playing It's super safe with black ops
and Modern Warfare. Uh so, yeah, I think it's gonna
be another Modern Warfare, would be my guest Modern Warfare.
Speaker 1: Warfare four is supposed to be next year, says Zach Riley.
That okay, sure, yeah, you're right, that'll be the biggest
thing they have. Okay, let's see anything else from Microsoft.
You know they're gonna have like seventy five Game Pass games.
Apparently they're committed to seventy five plus game Pass Day
one releases. So there will be a chance for because
the Expedition thirty three was one of those games this year,
there will be a chance for something like that to
pop off. Although I'll say, okay, so I did cancel
my Game Pass Ultimate and then the kids wanted to
play goat Simulator three on the and I have it
set up on the Xbox. That's where they've been playing,
and it was twenty five dollars, and I was definitely like, hmm,
should I just thirty dollars?
Speaker 2: And then I get all this other stuff I didn't.
I ended up buying the game.
Speaker 1: But it's like at some point they're going to like
want to play online or with like their cousins or something,
and at that point I'll be faced with that decision again.
It's like, should I just get the base one here
that has the online or should I go thirty I
don't know if thirty dollars is still somehow in my
realm of possibility.
Speaker 2: I've not done it.
Speaker 1: I have not gone back, but I can see why
they're doing it because it's like I'm still comparing it
to one game versus thirty dollars, and it's it's not
a good decision because I will forget to cancel and
all this stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it feels like Xbox should have like Game
Pass had in terms of the games I came to it.
It should have been a great year, right yecause they
did look into Exhbition thirty three, they had Song Yeah,
I think Blueprints was there, like right away.
Speaker 2: It's all this great.
Speaker 3: Stuff and you know, but it's just it's like, boy,
if that didn't really raise the needle, I don't know
whatever is going to right, I mean, if I.
Speaker 1: Mean, this really was the year where it's like it
all came to a head for like all of their
years of investing in these studios and investing in game
Pass and there were a ton of game Pass games
and they had quite a few like first party releases
between Doom and all this other stuff, and it's like
not nothing quite like got over the top, but there
was a lot of it that was relatively decent.
Speaker 2: And then those game Pass games were standouts. Multiple of
them were stand outs.
Speaker 1: So it's like, if that didn't change the fortune, I
think that's what they were looking at. They're like, nothing's
changing our fortune here. We had to change up the
strategy entirely.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, uh oh Blizzard uh yeah, they are doing
a blizz Con next year, which makes me think that
they've got some stuff to announce aside from just you know,
new characters.
Speaker 1: For so just like give me the quick rundown of
like where what is the status of the main franchises
from them right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, World of Warcuts is gonna have a big
expansion next year. Diabofore I think it is getting an
expansion next year.
Speaker 2: I forget it.
Speaker 3: That's like an announced thing or just clearly happening. You know,
Hartstone's chugging along fine. It's been nothing from StarCraft in
a while. Hasn't been anything StarCraft in a bit. It
might be time for StarCraft. Uh, that's kind I think
that's kind of the thing of like they're going to
announce something big and new. It's not just something out
of left field that nobody could predict, right, like some
new franchise.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's.
Speaker 3: Probably StarCraft time. And I don't know what that looks
like because they have not made a new RTS since
StarCraft two. So but you know, but I also don't
know if they're going to be like, we're gonna try
to make a third shooter was StarCraft again? Those projects
always end up getting canceled one way or another, So
I to me, I think the safe bet will just
be StarCraft three or whatever it looks like.
Speaker 2: Was was there like a Ruburn New Blizzard ip or
was that? I might be making that up. I can't remember.
Maybe they had that. Zickie Bears are always doing things
I can't I can't keep track.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see here over at PlayStation. You know, some
of the stuff that we have mostly confirmed one way
or another or is first party or is exclusive to PlayStation,
Marvel's Wolverine probably being the biggest Double O seven first light.
I think is they have a deal for that one.
I think it might show up on PlayStation, not Xbox
or something like that, or maybe it's just a marketing deal.
It's coming to a switch too, Which is it's coming
to Switch too? Yeah, I think it's coming everywhere. Actually,
let's see here. I think Sorrows the kind of follow
up to Returnal and then obviously not coming out next year,
but does kind of hang over their heads a little
bit intergalactic, the heretic profit. I don't think anyone's expecting
that before twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: So no, no, I don't think so. Uh.
Speaker 1: There could be ghost of a ghost of Yota DLC,
There could be death stranding to DLC, and then beyond that,
I don't know, maybe they do something new with Grand Turismo.
Speaker 2: Uh. These are the ones that kind of jotted down
pretty quickly. Marvels will, I mean the way Sony's been
going right now, if they have if they have Wolverine
and Sorrows and like one other thing that seems to
like do the trick for them, and they're happy to
sort of like let that be their first party release
schedule for the year.
Speaker 3: Right, So there's such a big beneficiary of third party
games right now of that ILK right, so they're not
it's not like they're placed by exclusives, but they almost
as well be at a certain for the others.
Speaker 1: That yeah, good point. Oh yeah, yeah that got delayed
from this year till next year. Yes, so we probably
hear about that at their like first major stay of
play of the year or something like that. Yeah, so
that'll happen, yeah, between that and those two other games,
Sorrows and uh yeah Wolverene.
Speaker 2: But Marvel's token is them, that's right, That is that's
the one I was like really trying to think of. Yeah, yeah,
that'll God, that'll be cool. Actually, that's that's a cool
lineup for twenty twenty six when you kind of put
those four together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Marathions, Fair Games, yeah, fair Games.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I bet Fair Games doesn't come out, but uh,
Marathon does.
Speaker 1: But that's like you know, third party, but I guess
that's a first party game for the third party, it'll
be everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it's definitely it looks on paper
like a better lineup than they had this year. I mean,
I it's not like it was a bad lineup, but
you know, certainly not like it was largely two heavy
hitters with destraating two and then Goso Yote and there's
some other gosh sures. I know, if I play like
them againsting else, that was them this year. But yeah, yeah,
I'm just curious about Wolverine still because it's still like
just what what is the what is like that gameplay
loop right or is it even really a loop or
is it just kind of action sequence story moment action
sequence story moment and is that still play? Maybe it does.
You know, just so much of what make Spider Man
work is traversal stuff. You can't really do that, and
Wolverine so much what makes Ratche and Clink work is
kind of you know, the weapons up and the goofiness.
Can't really do that in Wolverine. So it's like they're
gonna have to pull upon a very different skill set
at Insomniac for Wolverine, and you know, they could certainly
do it, but I'm curious to see what that looks like.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And everything they're doing here is like practice for their
next ten to fifteen years, because they are on the
hook from to make those rumored X Men games. So
it's like they're gonna need more than just a spider
Man when they go to make an X Men game.
They're gonna have to be able to handle a character
like Wolverine because you're gonna have to come up with
your diferent ways different verbs for players to do.
Speaker 2: So this is pretty important to set them up for
the future. Got it.
Speaker 3: It's like I keep trying to think what that X
Men game could look like, and all I could keep
going back to is that Adventures game. And like, yeah,
because like you kind of have to make a sort
of simple again loop of a game to accommodate like
ten different characters that all play wildly differently from each other.
Right mm hmm, gosh, gosh, I'm glad I don't have
to make an X Men game as a three D
triple A game in the year twenty twenty six or whatever,
because that's like a nice.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a nightmares.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what I was gonna say, yep, I do
not want that job for sure, Okay, uh yeah, and
then you know, I bet Sorrows is going to be
very good.
Speaker 2: I liked Returnal. I bet I bet they will make
Sorrows just like really stand like.
Speaker 1: It will learn a lot from Hades, It'll learn a
lot from everything else in that genre. And because it
was because the first one did so well with such
a standout in a lot of people's mind and in
Sony's minds, I think, uh, they will get a lot
of resources and be able to make.
Speaker 2: That game pop off the screen. So looking forward to
that is Neo three PlayStation kind of deal from Team Ninja.
Speaker 5: I think there were I think they are like exclusive
for a while.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's something.
Speaker 3: Hey what about what about Media Molecule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't kill everybody there. Yeah, well, like they have.
Speaker 3: They haven't anything since Dreams really, and they're not like
shuttered or anything. They're still a PlayStation studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're just they've been quietly working on
something that will pop up here in the next couple
of years, and I guess that could happen next year.
Speaker 3: Too too soon to hear about Blue Point, who again
has a release of games and Demon Souls, but they
were making something else and it got canceled.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were working on us to doing something.
Speaker 1: Was it the were they the ones working on the
live service got Out of War spin off?
Speaker 2: Oh? Terrible idea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's too soon, because I would
hope that even while they were doing that, there was
still like a team at Blue Point that was working
on like the next big remake or something. But maybe
not so in that case, it would be too soon.
I hope we hear from that studio sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: Do you think Santa Monica announces the Cory Ball rug game?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, god, how long has it been since
God of War Ragnarock?
Speaker 3: I got was twenty twenty two, and then and then
what before that was twenty eighteen and.
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen is like, so you know those the twenty
twenty two game was happening in conjunction with this.
Speaker 2: They were being developed at the same time.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this was in early development and has now
been in active development for the last three years at least,
or somewhere around there.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it is still still too soon.
Games take too long these days, you sure do.
Speaker 3: But boy, Polyphony, that's it, Shoe, Well they're doing that.
They did that, yeah, because Grant thought it was seven
was twenty twenty two Grand Trismos excuse me, yeah, Grant
Trismo they had that, my first Grand Tarismo thing whatever
though that.
Speaker 2: Was Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think they make like
a new Grand Trisma or anything yet.
Speaker 1: If anything, they tease something. There's a possibility that there's
like a new Grand Trismo eight. Would it be Grans
eight like that could be works, but I don't we
certainly that doesn't come out next year, no way. Uh okay,
let's see. So that's Microsoft, that's PlayStation uh ea. Like
how many other publishers are there to even talk about
it at a certain point, Mike.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you have an EA, you gotta take two,
got a Capcom, a Square Enix. Konomi does stuff now again,
that's nice Komi does.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do Konami that that Castlevania game better be
real and it better come out.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, come on, we got two solid hills. Yeah,
they're good and they're good.
Speaker 2: Get me good.
Speaker 3: It's not like they're like, it's not like they're not
doing anything with Castlevania, which what is a franchise that
a somehow only seemed to be more popular than it
was when they were making video games of it.
Speaker 2: Cacardi be dressed as de Rolta, which apparently has like
got a big glow up in one of the anime series.
I don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just on the latest season of of the.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, I wonder if they just don't
know what to do, Like they don't want to make
a metro Vania. They want to make a three D thing,
but they don't really have the blueprint for that because
all the other attempts that make that either weren't popular
at the time or like, you know, you don't you
don't really make games like Lords of Shadow anymore, that
is very Xbox three sixty coded.
Speaker 2: So what the heck does that? I mean, it's got
to be it's got to be a.
Speaker 1: Souls Born, right, because everyone always says souls Born games
are like a modern Castlevania's close the loop and do it,
but that it's not like you just pull a team
off the shelf and make one of those a lot
of people have been trying to emulate that.
Speaker 2: It's taken some teams like you know what's what is
a cot Neo?
Speaker 1: Is that techmo that's the ninja that's right, that takes
it took them like a while, like really get it.
Speaker 2: Like the first DEO had its fans, and the O
two was improved upon that.
Speaker 3: I believe that Paradise Final Fancy Origin knocked it out
of the part exactly.
Speaker 1: That's the perfect ideal of the French of the genre.
Of course, So it's like, yeah, but I bet that's
the answer there. But then that requires a big investment
and a big belief in this. And while Konami is
certainly making games again, they're also like working with external
partners and stuff like that, and could they is that
what they need to do here in this case? And
too they think Castlevania is even worth that squeeze. I
hope in this moment they do believe that again, because
again the show is so popular and they could turn
it into something that'd be cool. And and then if
we get a two D Metroid Van yet, I would
be ecstatic. That would be very cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they already said Blueber's remaking Silent Hill won next, right,
I don't know if we're gonna hear anything about that.
Speaker 2: Seems a little soon.
Speaker 1: There, making the Stallion, I said, CARDI b Meghan the Stallion.
Those wait, Megan the Stallion didn't. I was confused for
us ago, Okay, I need.
Speaker 5: To check that out.
Speaker 2: Yep. What remember Silent Hill town Fall?
Speaker 3: That was like another one of those sound Hill games
announced when the announced a bunch of them. Is the
Anna Pernav interactive one?
Speaker 2: What was that? Wait, let's say what what what's the
name again? Silent Hill town Fall? Is?
Speaker 1: This is not the like interactive TV show sort of thing, right, No,
this doesn't come out yet apparently.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know, and I don't know much about
what this one's supposed to be. And they did a
lot with sound Hill.
Speaker 2: I think then they like were very like, we did
that because we want people to like know that we
believe in Silent Hill.
Speaker 5: And sorry, Jesus Christ, make up the Stallion. What's going on? Yeah,
don't don't look it up.
Speaker 2: No, look it up. It look it up.
Speaker 3: Probably not probably not another metal gear thing yet, you know,
I don't think they're moving that fast. I mean, Volume
two could happen volume two. Sure, yeah, you're right, Falling
two getting the mugarsold four?
Speaker 2: Uh right, and that'd be a big deal.
Speaker 3: That'd be a big deal for the people who think
that game is still good.
Speaker 2: Uh eya will have God, what would they have?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gotta be a third Jedi game. Yeah,
there's mass effect on the third Jedi game. Third it's
too soon for either of those though, right, so probably Yeah?
Did when did Jedi Survivor come out?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 3: That was only a couple of years ago? Jedi Survived
that was twenty twenty three, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Couple of years years ago. So then then yeah, we're
too soon for the third one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The like that you SIMS project, that feels like they're
going to take a long time with figuring that out.
Speaker 2: I don't think like they're not hurrying to replace SIMS
four in any way. They're not gonna do fucking Dreadwolf
for whatever the funk that game was called DLC.
Speaker 3: No, but there, I mean, there goes. There's gonna be
a lot of Battlefield six stuff from them.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I kind of can't think of anything else other than
like obviously the sports games, but the Bell Guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, vail Guard is what it was called. Thank you, Yes,
you know, I like Dreadwolf better. Never mind, I'm just
gonna call it that.
Speaker 3: Uh as making that Iron Man game, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess they're still making that, but we'll see.
Speaker 3: See, we'll see about that. I don't know if that's
good out next year.
Speaker 5: And do you show sports games, they're going.
Speaker 1: Yea, they canceled their Black Panther game, right yeah yeah, yes,
Uh that's right.
Speaker 3: There's that Star Wars Tactics game that Respawn is helping with.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, we could see that that could get
revealed and released.
Speaker 1: Uh next year, I could see that happening. Okay, let's
see rock Star. I bet they're gonna have a game
or maybe not. I guess it could delayed.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, grand there.
Speaker 5: They're they're confident.
Speaker 1: They're very confident, more confident Bill Bill Kuen, one of
those leakers, was saying that they're going to have some
sort of announcement tomorrow rock Star as like a result
of this, and and he's like, can't like use the
recycled symbol like this is suggests like what it is,
and then some people are like trying to like is
it is it some sort of remaster remake?
Speaker 2: And then he's like, this is not a hype announcement.
So I'm like trying to figure out what it could.
Is it ping pong? Is it table tennis? I don't know.
Oh my god, I would love table tennis on switch to.
Speaker 3: I mean right there, like my goat, my go to
is just read a reduction two like getting slightly updated,
coming to switch to. That's probably it, right because like
I mean, that's not that exciting, right, It's something, yeah,
but it's not like the Bully remaster that people.
Speaker 1: Want, right, And we always says, keep my mind, like
this is one person's opinion on what is hype and
what is not, and people could be weird about that.
Speaker 2: So who knows.
Speaker 1: Okay, you be soft, now you be soft. They will
likely have an Assassin's Creed next year. This last one
did pretty well, So Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 3: Infinite isn't actually a thing, right, like whatever that was
supposed to be that like this portal ongoing life, like
that's nothing except perhaps maybe.
Speaker 2: You did you play Shadows? Did you play Shadows at all?
Speaker 1: I think when you load that game up, I think
there's a way to select the other Assassin's Creed games
from it from there, and I think that might be.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I think that might be.
Speaker 1: All that has been left over from whatever Infinite was
going to be is like now, it's just a way
to like it's like a launcher for Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 2: It's it's weird. So I have a question.
Speaker 4: I don't own any other Resisss Creed of those of
those that were on the list, so I don't know
if that was a real thing or just like them
showing you the other games.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you could actually I.
Speaker 2: Don't think anyone knows. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone knows because it doesn't I don't
even know if it like sends you to a store
if you click on one.
Speaker 2: Of those other games and you don't.
Speaker 6: I have multiple games in the ub Soft store that
were support and I actually didn't try it, but I
do believe that, yes, it literally just sends it you
over to the other game, because it says a launch game.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh yeah, So the one, yeah, they have Hex,
which is the one that's going to take place in
the Holy Roman Empire, which is the Germanic region, and
it might have like it might be involving witches and
stuff like that from that time, so.
Speaker 2: Cool, that could be.
Speaker 1: That could be neat, And that game could also be
like eight eighteen months out from Shadows, so there's no
guarantee even that comes out next year. Beyond that, it's like, uh,
Division III probably too early for that, right, That studio
has been very busy recently, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, uh yeah, I don't I don't know about
Division III because it's spending so much time with Star
Wars and then Avatar, right, right.
Speaker 1: And that's not even like part of their trinity of
games that had like survived the ten cent sort of purge,
and those are ghosts reconed or is it. No, it's
like tom It's Rainbow six is the one, Rambo six,
Far Cry and Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the only three that said there, uh
you all good and evil to Jeff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is this is its year, I believe.
Speaker 3: I think just like I was, like I was like
almost believing that game was happening again when they released
that Ring Master and it was still like teasing it
and then that was like a while ago, and they
still have said nothing I'm like, just do you think
they finally canceled that thing this next year?
Speaker 1: I don't, like, they haven't canceled it yet. And a
certain point, it's like, what's the point of even canceling it.
Speaker 3: There are so many not real or don't feel real
Ubisoft games. Because there's also the Sands of Time remake,
and then they.
Speaker 2: Remake. Yeah they announced that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, uh, the Black Flag remake is probably happening.
Maybe that comes out next year.
Speaker 2: All that's actually probably what releases next year. Yes, that
that sounds right, and then Hex comes out the year
after that. Okay, I could see that. I I liked
Black Flag a lot. It was not like like, oh,
this is my Assassin's Creed. It was just like, no,
this is another good Assassin's Creed. But I don't know.
I'm in the mood for Sea Shanty's. I like that
game quite a bit.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: All right, hey capcom uh Ani Musha. We have the
sword right that the new Yeah that's cool. That looks
very cool.
Speaker 1: Resident Evil Requiem of course, is due out in January.
That's gonna be yes, the uh and some stuff will
be coming to like Switch and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Monster hundred Stories three. Is that one that they
said would be coming next year?
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I don't think that's that's a lot
of game you announced two years before it comes out.
Speaker 2: No, you're You're definitely right. Yeah, we get better rag Mata.
All right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Capcom is gonna have probably another decent year,
and they probably have stuff that they haven't even announced yet.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on a limb and seeing how people
reacted to the Monster Hunter Wild's whole situation. I think
they're gonna like truckle on and kind of get that
that expansion like maybe probably next year, like next year,
I think maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they will try to get that expansion
out fast. Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1: And then I even if it is just to move
past Wilds in a way that so they can like
be like, Okay, we did that and maybe we've survived
or maybe we resuscitated it, maybe we didn't, but if
we didn't, like, let's just get onto the next game.
Speaker 2: Because I think they're gonna be happy to move on
from that one.
Speaker 3: Oh I I would like an Ace Attorney seven very much. Yeah,
Chat's bringing that up, and it has been a bit
they I think they've they've done all them in collections now.
I don't there's any of them left to re release
unless they want to do like the three DS era ones,
which maybe they do. But yeah, I think it's time
for a new Phoenix right finally, and I'd be very
happy about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they did all that work to bundle up
those games, and I don't know, we're getting like a
new uh what you mua call it? From Factor from
level five? What is their Professor Layton Professor? We get
a new Professor Layton game. We certainly should get an
Ace Attorney's game as well. I don't know, Okay, bandy Namco.
Speaker 2: I guess they're making No, they have the Teke and
nine stole years.
Speaker 3: Away, let's see, Yeah, that's a while away.
Speaker 2: They're probably they'll probably have some new Dragon Ball game,
not like.
Speaker 3: Yeah wait wait, by the way, Eric, when that Sparking
zero came out, it seemed like everyone was so excited
and happy for exactly ten minutes. Now, apparently that thing
is the worst thing ever, is all I hear?
Speaker 2: Now? Everybody hates Yeah, yeah, are you shocked too? At shot?
Speaker 1: I thought everyone was just would be like, we know
what this is and we're gonna play it for for
a while and like maybe we'll pick it up at
parties in the future when we're fine.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it like had like a bad reputation
at this point.
Speaker 3: People don't like it.
Speaker 2: Now incredible, Yeah we should play it again and like
sing its praises.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were listening new DLC for Drug ball Fighters,
so maybe that game is not the dust, So maybe
they're doing something with that.
Speaker 2: Bro, maybe i'd be crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see what else from Banda Namco. I don't know. Uh,
Square Enix, Uh, give me rage, right, so your pizzas
of shit, I'll see. Hopefully we'll give you raid Racer.
That's fitting because I'm final Fantasy seven remake part three.
Speaker 3: I don't know if next year is the year for that.
Oh yeah, they'll talk about it. I don't think that
game can talk.
Speaker 2: They'll talk about it. Yeah, okay, we'll see it, but
maybe little early and then Uh. Dragon Quest seven Reimagine
is supposed to come out next year, Right, that's happening
for sure.
Speaker 3: You think that game looks awesome, that'll happen Dragon Quest twelve, No,
maybe they finally talk about it again.
Speaker 2: Right and mind people exist. That's the least they can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Kingdom Heart's four, Yeah, I guess could
happen next year, that one could, Yeah, I guess it could.
Speaker 2: And then Warner Brothers feels like maybe we could get
an Injustice maybe, but I don't know, uh, maybe too
soon for that.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like if they had their ship together, feels
like they would have a new Hogwarts legacy for next
year or something, but they don't have their ship together
for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like things that people could possibly care about here.
It's too soon for a new Batman game pivot for
that already. So yeah, maybe Infamous three is the best
you can hope for there.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe like an all right lego Batman. That's right,
they showed that off.
Speaker 2: That's got to be next. Yeah, people love that and
people seem to love that stuff, so I didn't realize
how much of a fan base those DC lego games had.
People seem crazy for that one, So cool, all right? Cool?
I uh, I think we kind of covered a bunch
of stuff there.
Speaker 1: If I don't know, If people have other ideas, feel
free to like write in either Super Infamous.
Speaker 3: Did I say, Infamous three, sorry, Injustice three sorry, Yeah.
Speaker 2: When people know what you meant. All right, cool, let's uh,
let's take another break, we'll come back. We'll wrap up
super chats after we talk about what we've been playing
right after this. All right, we're back, Mike, What have
you been playing? Parasite E?
Speaker 3: I actually finished that yesterday, the PlayStation one Squaresoft Classic.
It's been a big one on my pile of shame
on the backlog I've been when played forever. I started
during Spooky Season and finished it just a little bit afterwards,
and that game was shit hot.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you liked it.
Speaker 1: Now I watched you stream a little bit of it,
and it just looks so much better than I even remembered.
It's like, God, these games look cool.
Speaker 3: It's like if you like PlayStation aesthetic, right, like whatever
you think that is, Like, this is such a PlayStation
aesthetic game. It looks so freaking cool. The pre rendered backgrounds,
the blocky but like kind of charming character models of
the music by Goshimer Moore is just insanely freaking good.
It's just an all time soundtrack, and I love the
battle system and the fact that it is survival horror
and tone, but you do kind of have this turn
base but also real time like movement baptism. It's just
such a neat thing. The story gets real, it gets
just the right surmounts of weird that you want and
good those places. Gosh, I'm almost sad, like I don't
have time to do the new game plus stuff because
apparently there's like a boat, you know, like sometimes there's
like the s Bonus Secret dungeon. When this game it's
just the Chrysler Building. You just like go up all
like the seventy two floors whatever, the crisis Chrysler Building.
I'm like, oh, that sounds awesome. That's awesome. We don't
have the hype for it right now, but that game's
got hype.
Speaker 2: That game.
Speaker 3: I think it's like one of those games that is
actually I think regarded better now than it was at
the time. I thought that it was, you know, at
the time it got like eights, and now everyone's that's
just one of the best PlayStation games.
Speaker 1: It was a big deal, and it reviewed pretty well,
like it was a pretty good game at the time,
and it's like kind of every time it comes up now,
I do hear people talk about it in hush tones,
and I was like, I've surprised by that. I'm like, oh,
I didn't realize that, just because I remember that initial
reaction being like, yeah, it's not Final Fantasy seven, which
was I think kind of the consensus in that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean it, but that's what's so neat
about it because it still has like square sooft RPG stuff,
but yeah, it's our it was their first m erated game,
so it's taking itself pretty seriously. It's not goofy at all.
You know, it has this very it's modern New York
is the setting. It's just so much about it. That's
that's neat. It still has all the stuff that you
would want from Squaresoft, but they're trying things. It's what
a I'm going to think of Parasite Eve two when
I eventually do that, because I think like at the
time people did criticize it like, well, why isn't this
more like Resident Evil because that's what it should be.
So then they made Parasite Eve too, yeah, or like
Resident Evil, And I bet it's gonna be a good game,
but I bet I'm gonna really miss the stuff that
made Parasite Eve Unique.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I bet you will.
Speaker 1: I've been playing Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection and mostly for
the the documentary stuff at this point, and I'll say
it's I guess I didn't appreciate just how Chicago that
game was. Like that's one thing that really comes through
in the documentaries, like these are just all a bunch
of Midwest Chicago boys who got into this business for
whatever reason. Like you know, in Ed Boone's case, he
was just a technical, kind of smart whiz kid and
became like really good at doing the special effects lighting
on pinball machines for Williams. And it's like, I guess
I didn't even really know that. I did not know
he is the voice of the ventriloquist doll on the
Funhouse Machine. That's Ed Boone's voice. Apparently, I'm like, oh
my god, that's amazing. But and then John Tobias just
being a street artist, like he was doing graffiti and
these murals in Chicago. It was just this really talented
artist and like Kung Fu movies, and then these crazy
kids got together and you Eugene Jarvis and some of
these other guys created these tools to take frames from
a VHS tape and put those frames into video games,
and they're like, well, well, here's an idea, here's what
we can do with that. And it was just obviously
sitting around saying wouldn't it be awesome if and then
they all have the talent to make that stuff a reality,
and it's just, oh, man.
Speaker 2: Games are better because they were there were people making
games and all these different pockets of the world and
at one point, like the Meca for that was Chicago
for this moment in the nineties, and it was I
don't know, I really appreciate that. It's just excellent work.
Speaker 1: Area five was involved in the In the documentary stuff,
some of those guys actually show up. These are the
former One Up Show people, so they show up in
some of the clips here or there. It's like, oh,
you can just tell this is high quality work and
people that really understand games working on every facet of it.
So and then you know, at any moment when I'm like, god,
Mortal Kombat rules, I just pressed the X button and
it takes me to the games and I can go
play a little bit of moral combat. Just I'm like
overwhelmed by the need to do that. And then I
could do a few rounds and be like, God, the
CPU is really cheap, and then I can go back
to watching the documentary and having a good time.
Speaker 2: It's it's a really excellent package. It's the best one
of these so far.
Speaker 1: And I've really liked all of them, especially especially like
Atari fifty, but this one's even better so far.
Speaker 3: Is it, like, does it bother you at all? Because
like all this stuff you're talking about, I think that's
what I'm interested in too. In you know, this is
this package is getting beaten up pretty badly because of
like online support and input lag and.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because it bothers me. Yeah, yeah, because it's like,
do you care about any of that?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm playing on PC, where I guess that stuff
wasn't as much of a problem. People are having issues
on console, but maybe there are some issues on PC.
But no, I'm here for the history that that is.
That to me, that's the whole reason this thing exists.
Although I appreciate that it's not like we've had all
of these Mortal Kombat games in one package before, so
for a lot of people, they do want this to
be also an excellent way to play games, and of
course it's fair to criticize that. Seems like they're working
hard to update it. There was just a patch recently.
I don't know how much it actually improved things, but
I know that they're trying to And we played it
and had a you know, it was like one like
it was like twenty seconds of lag or latency on
the PC, and it's like I didn't notice that. I couldn't.
I couldn't tell you when that was happening. So if
it stays around there on the PC side of things,
I'll be just fine. The one hundred milliseconds of lag
that was apparently happening on consoles, that would be frustrating.
I wouldn't blame I don't blame anyone for complaining about that.
But hey, in the meantime, go watch all this excellent
historical documentation of this incredible. They have so much like
footage from the time, and they have John Tobias's notebooks
and they're scanned beautifully and you could just see like see, oh,
he was really just kind of thinking about this stuff
in a very simple but affective way of like, oh,
you know, Kung or shng sung is the villain and
Johnny Cage is going to be the sidekick, and here's
the skeptical character and it's Striker, and then the striker
actually turned into Sonya Blade and Jack's and they're like not,
they don't like buy into all this mystical bullshit, and
they kind of have to because they get strung on.
It's like, oh yeah, just clever, easy writing that can
be conveyed very quickly in a paragraph of text.
Speaker 2: In an arcade machine. And I don't know, it's very
impressive to see it all just laid out like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am like, I need to dive into this
because I'm very excited about those documentary aspects of it.
And you know this when we were playing it at
the Bombathon that and put lack thing to bother me.
But there's a probably like man like Digital Eclipse already
got criticized so hard for having it put lag problems
with when they did the Street Fighter thirty if Inniverse
question things like that, and it's like, how can you
let this happen again?
Speaker 2: How can you think? I yeah, you gotta stay on time, yep,
you got to stay on top of it.
Speaker 3: You know that people are just going to be so
sensitive to these things and you know, yeah, it's just
you know, gotta be able to do. But especially when
like the rest of the collection is just so interesting
and amazing and neat, like why stumble on that one
aspect of it? And I'm sure it's difficult and it's
you know, the ways to figure it out asn't as
obvious as it might seem to me, But it's got
to be figured out.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: You gotta do everything you can to avoid these problems
that they have been solved in other situations similar to
a package like this, So there's kind of no excuse, uh,
like you know, the time people should play that other stuff.
Speaker 3: Like you know, like you know, outside like after their
thirtieth anniversary collection of a street Fighter, like the Capcom
Fighting collection we've been getting have been fantastic. They've been amazing,
So it can be done. Uh, anything else from you,
Mike Gosh, I feel like it should be. I mean,
it's been a lot of Fortnite, honestly, been doing the
SIPs and stuff, which has been fun. Haven't tried the
Disneyland ship that yeah today?
Speaker 5: Yet what is the Disney stuff? I didn't say I
was playing.
Speaker 3: I'm entirely sure, it's like it's it's Disneyland related, and
it looks like there's a lot of mini games themed
to different tractions, not dissimilar to Disneyland Connects. I suppose,
I don't. I don't really know, so I'll have to
have to jump into that again. Disney invested a lot
of money into epic games, so I'm sure this is
another part of that micularysys. The Disney stuff isn't that great, Mike,
I'm not expecting it to be particularly great, but I
still need to see it.
Speaker 2: You know, you'll always have Disneyland connect and so you
can just go back to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have Adventures of Magic Kingdom for the
NES which is also basically that same setup a mini
games inside of Disney Park, which is also the same
setup that that Universal game on GameCube Day. There's a
surprisingly large amount of that stuff, Essais. Stuff has been
very good and fort I have been enjoying that running
around in there, Uh, seeing the characters I've been I'm
I'm getting so many third place finishes lately. I just
played very well. Guys kills them right there, and I
do very stupid things, and I gotta get better. But
it's been a good time.
Speaker 5: I've been playing too.
Speaker 4: I kind of wish there was a way to like
explore the island because I want, I want you just
to explore all those places and I can if I'm
being chased by the circle over shooting out by everybody,
I think they should ad like.
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's like a peaceful mode like that,
like the community can create or something like.
Speaker 3: That's gotta be something like that.
Speaker 2: It's a creative mode. It's got to be creative. I
don't know. Maybe it doesn't use the same map. I
don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but uh, you know, I've
been playing some more Ballpit runs here and there, so
just kind of yeah, a bit of a bit, a
bit of all that. Definitely, I'm ready to play more
Dragon Questa during my travels. I think that will probably
be my big thing for all of that.
Speaker 2: All right, fantastic. Yeah, I played some uh more Arc
Raiders and that's good.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, let's go how far into it are you?
Speaker 3: You you have that far?
Speaker 2: Not that far? But uh yeah, I want to pick
up here there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I finished all the quests and now I have
the like so in this case, in our creators.
Speaker 4: There's no mandatory wipe like in Tarkov, where every six
months everyone you gets their stuff all wipe and you
have to start all over again.
Speaker 5: Here is optional.
Speaker 4: But to do the wipe, you had to complete this
project quote unquote project, which is just a you had
to build like a caravan inside your workshop, and that
current takes a lot of materials and a bunch of
like Harry and lutes. So I'm kind of doing that
so by the time the wipes come, I have the
option to do it. Otherwise, if you don't complete that,
you can't. You have to wait another like sixty days.
I think it's like the the cycle to restart all
But if you.
Speaker 2: Don't, you just continue as if you were playing the game.
Nothing nothing to ok.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just continue to the next one. And I'm
trying to do that now and it's fun. I've been
doing like more dangerous stuff. We've been even going to
the night version of the Raids, which have way more
They have way more arc, way more like AI enemies
and people is super spicy on those on those matches
because the loot is so good that you don't want
to have any chance. Like it's kind of hard to
team up because it's like any taken disclas shut me
in the bag and to steal all my good stuff.
Speaker 5: So it's it's it's been really tense. I really like it.
Speaker 4: So I'm on that on that cool Yeah, I'm on
that bicycle type and just like that's the way it
should be.
Speaker 3: I'm not down for this kumba a bullshit.
Speaker 2: I got off from here? What's that that?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna last. I think I think
it's early days stuff in our creator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in a month, you're gonna hear stories
of like I used to be able to go into
this game and make a friend, and that almost never
happens anymore.
Speaker 2: Look, I like gluding, but it going gets me so far.
Speaker 3: I gotta look, I gotta shoot some things, and most
of the robots like, no, hide from that, don't shoot
that rope.
Speaker 2: But what can I shoot? Can't shoot this person? No,
they're waving at you and doing an email. Oh god,
they get the scare pullsh it out of here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been funny the people like I used to
be able to say hi to people now that you
shoot you this. Yeah, Yeah, it's fun Another thing I
played before our critrics come out was the Battlefield six
free stuff, the Red six stuff. Yeah, that thing is
a bottle of your Theatle Royale and the Gauntlet, the
battle Royalities whatever.
Speaker 5: It is a battle Royal if you if you like,
it's one of those.
Speaker 3: If you it's just that.
Speaker 4: It's it's butterfield Battle Royal and the circle is fire
and you whatever.
Speaker 5: I don't care. The Gauntlet stuff is fun.
Speaker 4: It's it's a a bunch of squads they put against
each other and it's round base and every each for
every round the objective change. So one round is planned
the bomb, another a round is capture the flag. Another
around is the VIP survived type thing. And the teams
with the two teams is eight teams at the start
and the two teams with the lowest points they get
eliminated and the other teams go forward until they use
one on one team.
Speaker 5: So it's it's it's really fun.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's cool seeing like the rotation of the
of the modes and all that stuff, because it kept
it fresh and because.
Speaker 5: You can have like you can have the capture the flag.
Speaker 4: Either at the beginning of the match will be like
with eight teams or you can have at them with
two teams. It kind of change the dynamic and it's
really really fun. I really like the gun to stuff.
You remember to kills one two. I did the same
thing when in one match. It will change the objectives
all the time, so it's been really fun. I haven't
had a lot of time to play because our creators,
but I'm definitely going back to it, especially because it's
free to play. Everybody can play it, so highly recommend
if you if you don't want to pay for full battles.
Speaker 1: Okay, I wonder if that's taken off with with people
because I haven't heard much of it.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard much about it either, and I wonder
if I don't like.
Speaker 2: A little better.
Speaker 4: Definitely, it's definitely our creators, because I hurt people saying
the same thing I'm saying. That was like I think
Andy said the same thing from kind of Funny that
was like, I really want to play Red Say because
it's a lot of fun, but right now I'm just
full art creating. You know another thing I want to
point out, you can't play you can't play solo because
it's you know, squad, so it's always either with your
friends or you match made into another squad.
Speaker 5: And I was getting really frustrated one of these.
Speaker 4: Matches where I was trying to do the objective and
I went to the objective and.
Speaker 5: We got eliminated.
Speaker 4: My clad got eliminated, but because I was doing the
objective again, was like, hey, you did the objectives, We're
gonna reassign you to one of the teams that want
the objective. So I my team, Oh, they got deleted,
but because I was doing well, he moved me into
another team where maybe like a guy wasn't doing it
as well, so he kind of reassignment to that.
Speaker 5: It was pretty cool.
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh they thought about this, because yeah,
most people is gonna play with Randos, and Rando sometimes
don't play the objective or they don't do the thing
they need to do, So I think that was was
kind of cool from that From that moment.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Uh okay, I'm trying to like see like a
Battlefield six has like three hundred thousand players right now
in Steam, so yeah, that's fine. Yeah, it seems like
it's doing just fine. Uh okay, let's see here, Mike,
let's wrap up those super chats.
Speaker 3: Ryan, Oh no, not that one. Wait, yes, this one,
Ryan Allen says, picking a collapse warhammers. No, the Chris
Practice decidedn't try out this metroid crime game before the
new one, and I think I got a buggy copy.
I can't see my character only in arm.
Speaker 2: Someone help, called the Nintendo Power Hotline, Chris, they'll help
you out.
Speaker 3: Just say bike cheers on the pars like e streams.
It's been a delight even though I haven't played it.
Great music, chill vibes, Yeah, they're surprisingly chill vibes for
such a spooky game.
Speaker 5: How do you the vibes on the sperm bunk.
Speaker 2: Gosh?
Speaker 3: They said, Yeah, I was reading the dialogue. I had
to say the word sperm a lot, not as much
as I had to say the word mitochondria. I had
to say that easily more than I haven't total the
rest of my life. Yeah, yeah, yes, the it's the Powerhouse.
Yeah yeah, mitochondria, sperm, mitochondria, mightychondria, sperm sperm, mightychondria.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Man, he's just spitting bars over here. All right. That
does it for the super chats and what we've been playing.
Let's see anything else.
Speaker 5: Extra Life Community.
Speaker 4: In I'm gonna be streaming in today, but it starts
after UPF tomorrow, so check that. I think it's gonna
be on JOm bomb dot com slash chat. Maybe all right,
let's go confirmed, let's go. Yeah, it's gonna be a
job bomb dot com slash chat.
Speaker 5: So check it out.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. God, that's it's right.
Speaker 1: Most people are doing extra life this weekend, so uh,
it'll be good. We're doing ours next weekend.
Speaker 3: Always I'm always so late with my Actually, I was like,
I do mine in like miss December. Everybody, you're gonna deal.
Speaker 2: You can do yours, you can do it whenever.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. It's just like there's like one
official weekend, but then people do it all.
Speaker 2: People do it all year long. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, by Friday night, Game Night, Pig jog Box Lego
party here on the on the game mess discourse.
Speaker 5: So also check that out.
Speaker 2: Have fun, everybody, it'll be good. Have fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see here, Mike, what do you have going on?
Where can people find you all that good stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Twitch Tokoto, Uh yeah you know what if I mean
o codo there you go. H I felt like I
was gonna say something to you, Jeff, and I don't remember.
Speaker 2: You're you're out tomorrow, You're out Monday. I'm out.
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to get back early Monday. The way flights
are going, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, have no promises for Monday, like we're not
gonna be starting Missed three on Monday anything. So you
guys could probably figure something out with that block. Hopefully
I'll be able to do a mega man though, because
I'm stranded in DC. For the rest of mind, we'll
just play Pissed again. Hell yeah, yeah, there's no piss.
There's no piss to just make jam played piss. You
guys should play the original Riven.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that could be fine. It's just pictures, just driven,
just pictures.
Speaker 3: Get them get you should lay it on PlayStation. It's
with your discs every time you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, okay, that'd be fun. Uh yeahs, that's what
it is.
Speaker 3: We're gonna record New Columbus everybody right after thirty. It'll
be out soon.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Hanging there for that, uh and then yeah tomorrow on
UPF will probably do some high role Warriors and maybe
some other stuff.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know we'll see by everyone. The cum gutters. Yeah,
the cum gutters.
Speaker 3: My god, I have an email play on news. It
is like they heard me. They did Kingdom come Delivery
to play on news.
Speaker 2: I don't need play on news. The cum gutters.
Speaker 3: No stopchase is such a better port.
Speaker 2: Bye, everybody. Man.
Speaker 3: For so long have fantasized about sucking their own dick.
Speaker 2: I love apples.
Speaker 3: Oh that's dirty, I got it. Dirty play, dirty play,