Speaker 1: Get ready for it.
Speaker 2: And so August twenty eight, twenty five, allegedly according to
Speaker 2: that thing we call a calendar, and we're live on
Speaker 2: a Friday here on o'celly dot com. So managed to
Speaker 2: actually push out a couple of shows this week and
Speaker 2: didn't have internet failure like we had last Friday, because
Speaker 2: there went the internet and then the electricity one after
Speaker 2: the other, and it was just you know, fun over
Speaker 2: here in the dark and the stone Age, but nothing
Speaker 2: they can do about it. We kind of closed out
Speaker 2: the show without closing out the show. And it is
Speaker 2: what it was, and I put it out. I don't
Speaker 2: know if anybody listened to it, but it's out there.
Speaker 2: It is a podcast. Also, I talked to Larry Hancock
Speaker 2: this week and Pierce Redman. I got plans for other stuff.
Speaker 2: I got invites to some other shows. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll keep rolling the dice and see if
Speaker 2: the conspiracy against me continues, I guess, either by the
Speaker 2: universe or other people, or who knows, the Mexicans working
Speaker 2: next door that finally have taken up the abandoned house.
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do? It is what it is.
Speaker 2: Welcome to America Trump style, all right, and uh, you
Speaker 2: know I won't last much longer, but hey, what the hell,
Speaker 2: it's not his fault or yours. Three one nine five
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call.
Speaker 2: I might talk about news, but I don't feel like
Speaker 2: it yet, and I definitely don't feel like arguing tonight.
Speaker 2: So you know, let's just dessume you want a ready
Speaker 2: and come on and talk about whatever's on your mind.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk long tonight. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get into explanations. I don't even want to get
Speaker 2: into the niche topics. To be honest with you, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. And also I've been coming quite
Speaker 2: a bit and that delayed me from doing the stuff
Speaker 2: I wanted to do on the weekend. And I can't
Speaker 2: help that. I've been sick with something. So whatever the
Speaker 2: yck is, it is three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six. If you're hearing us about fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes after the hour of eight o'clock as I speak
Speaker 2: anyway in the Eastern time zone, that's what we're doing
Speaker 2: until ten pm Eastern, when the Age of Transitions is
Speaker 2: scheduled to begin. And if he doesn't and internet holds up.
Speaker 2: We'll just keep going. But I think he's supposed to
Speaker 2: show up. But who knows what will happen next? Like
Speaker 2: I said in the meantime, join us and be heard
Speaker 2: three one nine five two seven five zero one six BPTE.
Speaker 2: How was your week? And did you get in the
Speaker 2: chat room and get a chance to tweet? And god
Speaker 2: knows what else? Because I didn't, But did you?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't get a chance for anything on X
Speaker 3: or Twitter whatever it is called it? What is the
Speaker 3: I know it's a visual name is X. But if
Speaker 3: people still refer to it as Twitter, well they do.
Speaker 2: But the web address changed, which you know is amazing
Speaker 2: to me, and and hosting changed and all that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it's clearly one of the X projects because
Speaker 2: Elon marks a lot of things with an X, so
Speaker 2: it's one of his things. And it's officially X dot
Speaker 2: com and the logo says X. Now everything says X.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just does farts. I guess calling it
Speaker 2: you know Twitter, you know what I mean. But the
Speaker 2: Twitter links still work though, by the way, you know,
Speaker 2: if you've got an old Twitter lin, yeah, they do work.
Speaker 2: Like if you take a look at the one. Let
Speaker 2: me take a look at it real fast, just to
Speaker 2: make sure I ain't talking out of my backside here,
Speaker 2: because I always like to double check things, which is
Speaker 2: what takes me so long sometimes. But when I put
Speaker 2: out your thing and I say, hey, you know the
Speaker 2: co host, here's his uh, you know, here's his fed
Speaker 2: book account and here's his and it's fed book because
Speaker 2: it's not you, you know, not your fault, but to me,
Speaker 2: it's Federal Collection Book. But anyway, when I put out
Speaker 2: your thing, let's see, missus zolunurosa, where are you on here?
Speaker 2: I know you're on my list of links that I
Speaker 2: just copy and paste. I did a Joan Mellon tribute.
Speaker 2: This is on this list of links. Larry Hancock is there.
Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain where is it? Come on? Roll roll
Speaker 2: roll roll role. I know i'd know where to grab
Speaker 2: it if I was like doing show notes right now,
Speaker 2: but I'm not at this very moment. But I know
Speaker 2: I got the co host link here, and I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure it says X or Twitter or whatever. But then
Speaker 2: the original link I put down for Twitter, it does
Speaker 2: work still to take it to your ID page. So
Speaker 2: let's yeah, so either you could use Twitter or x
Speaker 2: and then you know, whatever your name is like slash,
Speaker 2: whatever your name is from a desktop or whatever. It works. Yeah,
Speaker 2: see the co host. Okay, let's see No, No, there's
Speaker 2: BP dot com. Okay, so you got your dot com,
Speaker 2: you got your fedbook, and then this is an old
Speaker 2: list I went to and it doesn't have the Twitter
Speaker 2: account because Twitter is kind of new to you still.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've only been here since first year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know I got you here listed for
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just gonna bring I hate going
Speaker 2: to do anything on the browser anymore during the show.
Speaker 2: What'screw it? We're gonna do it because I know I
Speaker 2: put out your Twitter thing with every show post. Now,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go to the last Friday night open mic,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure I list you know the co host.
Speaker 2: Here's his links and it should be your Facebook, your
Speaker 2: Twitter whatever i'm calling it, and and your website every
Speaker 2: time with every show that we do. Uh, let's see
Speaker 2: the co host, come on, open it up, the co host.
Speaker 2: There's your website and I call it Twitter. X oh
Speaker 2: on here it has changed to x dot com. Now
Speaker 2: you know we're gonna do live right now, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: try doing it as Twitter and see if it works.
Speaker 2: Because it was not too long ago. I know that.
Speaker 2: Come on, the stupid mouse of mine is like sticking.
Speaker 2: So now it's at that point where really I should
Speaker 2: replace it because I'm either going to have to do
Speaker 2: that or you know, I have to do that, or
Speaker 2: take it apart one or the other. And taking it apart,
Speaker 2: I don't think I even know where my small screwdrivers
Speaker 2: are anymore, but I do have a set somewhere. I
Speaker 2: should be able to take it apart anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I'm obviously stalling for time while I copy and paste,
Speaker 2: which is giving me trouble because of the sticky mouse.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to go to Twitter slash be feat
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nine, okay, which should be your Twitter link.
Speaker 2: Now it does work on X, but I got to
Speaker 2: replace Twitter. I got to replace X with Twitter to
Speaker 2: be very specific. So now I'm trying to go to
Speaker 2: it and see what it does. Wow. Well, it says
Speaker 2: that if I go to Twitter dot com, oh oh,
Speaker 2: it's telling me it's having trouble connecting to the server.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: They may have changed it. Wait no, it is my
Speaker 2: clunky crap going on here with my my browser and everything.
Speaker 2: I've had trouble lately. Now, I just went to the
Speaker 2: Twitter link and what it did is, uh, you know
Speaker 2: when you go to the wrong page address and it
Speaker 2: just changes the address and sends you to the right place.
Speaker 2: So it sent me when I went through my browser
Speaker 2: Twitter dot com slash BP nineteen sixty nine, I did
Speaker 2: that and it converted it into x dot com. So
Speaker 2: it does. Yeah, so it does still work. And you know,
Speaker 2: people do that all the time with these little trick
Speaker 2: websites where like let's just say you have a web
Speaker 2: address that's hard to work with and it's some crap
Speaker 2: that you know you bought a long time ago, doesn't
Speaker 2: really count anymore or whatever. You just buy the new
Speaker 2: web address and then you create a link so that
Speaker 2: it converts it. Like let's just say I wanted to
Speaker 2: have I don't know the truth about Judy Baker dot com, right,
Speaker 2: so we pay the twenty bucks or whatever to buy
Speaker 2: it for two years, and then we just hyperlink it
Speaker 2: to your website. So when they type in the truth
Speaker 2: about Judy Baker dot com or they try to use
Speaker 2: the truth about Judy Baker dot com. They go to
Speaker 2: your page busting the balls.
Speaker 3: You know I got I'm not. I guess I'm pleased
Speaker 3: with with Twitter X. But I realized something yesterday.
Speaker 2: You know, there's this.
Speaker 3: Monitoring that they do. In a moment's notice. I replied
Speaker 3: to a post concerned at school shooting, and I found
Speaker 3: out that you will get flagged if you use the
Speaker 3: expression training. And I was kind of surprised. As soon
Speaker 3: as I posted that response to somebody. Suddenly I had
Speaker 3: to sign in again when I came back to my
Speaker 3: ex page and this went on a couple of times,
Speaker 3: and I went to my post just to see and
Speaker 3: they had that film over one and said this may
Speaker 3: have violated our rules, and I thought, well, what the
Speaker 3: hell do you mean may if you read it that
Speaker 3: damn quick, you know, apparently this thing flags it and
Speaker 3: somebody comes back and reads it, so it says, did
Speaker 3: we get this wrong? And I said yeah, I said
Speaker 3: what I typed is true. Tradings are a protecting class
Speaker 3: among the left. And I didn't hear any more about it.
Speaker 3: Suddenly I didn't have to log back in again, but
Speaker 3: my post disappeared, right, and that's what's got me thinking
Speaker 3: because it gives me the option. Well, you know, this
Speaker 3: may have violated the standards, and usually that can be
Speaker 3: taken care of if you just deleat the post I said,
Speaker 3: i't want to leave the goddamn thing right enough, it
Speaker 3: went away on its own. I'm wondering who decided to
Speaker 3: pull a pin on it. That pisses me off. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, if you're gonna, if you even claim that
Speaker 3: you're buying this to you're gonna bring free speech back
Speaker 3: to Twitter, well then damn it, do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see your arguable terminology over you know, uh, tranny, transtestical,
Speaker 2: whatever it is you want to call them. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't care about the political correctness thing, but it's
Speaker 2: way out of control on way more platforms than you realize.
Speaker 2: And you know what, you're even funding some of them personally.
Speaker 2: Uh you pay YouTube, don't you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well on YouTube, now, some channels they have flagged
Speaker 2: a lot of things, and I don't mean just political words. Uh,
Speaker 2: they flagged all kinds of political words on both sides,
Speaker 2: really pissing off the left and the right.
Speaker 3: Kind of Now, I say, and I hate watching these
Speaker 3: videos where they have to peep over a war or
Speaker 3: they'll star across it, so you don't know what they're saying, right,
Speaker 3: It's like, well if it's if.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well now they blurry images.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just don't get it. I don't get it
Speaker 3: at all. And then you talk to all these developers,
Speaker 3: you know, when they're doing it, Okay, well, I hope
Speaker 3: this one doesn't get taken down or I can't say this,
Speaker 3: or they'll demonetize it, and it's just getting ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Well it's look, it's one thing that they said, we're
Speaker 2: going to demonetize this because they don't want to do
Speaker 2: business with somebody's talking about certain things. But I'm telling
Speaker 2: you that descriptors that are disturbing are now removed. So
Speaker 2: you got guys talking about, you know, murder cases, which
Speaker 2: is one of the most popular things to talk about
Speaker 2: in the podcast podcast world or twitter verse or anything. Right,
Speaker 2: Whenever somebody's murdered, they talk about it. So these guys
Speaker 2: are literally using words like unalived yeah, okay, and you
Speaker 2: can't utter the word suicide in most cases. Now the
Speaker 2: bigger companies get away with using any word they want
Speaker 2: you understand, Like, you know, if CNN does a news report,
Speaker 2: which I got to tell you my investigation on CNN
Speaker 2: is getting really interesting. Now I can identify the majority
Speaker 2: of the stockholders and controlling managers at CNN are actually
Speaker 2: Trump contributors, which I find really funny and really goes
Speaker 2: along with my whole you know, they use him for content,
Speaker 2: that's what he is. It's not about politics. But anyway,
Speaker 2: working on that still, you know, it's funny. They can
Speaker 2: talk about somebody was murdered, somebody was shot, somebody was
Speaker 2: you know, all these different things, right, But guys who
Speaker 2: are on there, even talking about TV shows, they've gone
Speaker 2: back and now words drop off in the middle of
Speaker 2: sentences where all of a sudden you're like, did my
Speaker 2: you know, did my show? Just like I'm listening to
Speaker 2: the Twitter, you know, to the YouTube in the background, right,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, didn't Like I just lose
Speaker 2: my connection? Is there something wrong with the video? You know?
Speaker 2: Did it end? Is there a blank commercial here?
Speaker 4: And no?
Speaker 2: They cut off words like you can't mention a lot
Speaker 2: of different like violent words are the most prominent thing
Speaker 2: that I've noticed being you know, just deleted. So even
Speaker 2: if you're in a clinical sense describing something or talking
Speaker 2: about a news story, which now this makes more sense
Speaker 2: about how they went after me about I was covering
Speaker 2: a news story and they said I was encouraging violence. Well,
Speaker 2: now they've gone from you know, we're going to ban
Speaker 2: you and cut your videos down if you got to
Speaker 2: high enough. Following what they'll do is go through your
Speaker 2: videos and let the algorithm remove the bad words, in
Speaker 2: which case it could be a big, you know, huge
Speaker 2: descriptor here. I mean, if you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: an event in history.
Speaker 3: I heard, uh yeah, I heard just yesterday that there's all.
Speaker 3: They've also had a lot of complaints people that are
Speaker 3: submitting shorts or reels like they have on Instagram. They
Speaker 3: AI is editing them. Yes, and people are taking this
Speaker 3: short they submitted and the one that is actually on
Speaker 3: the website and comparing the two and they're finding the
Speaker 3: glitches in it. So, I mean that's something that's has
Speaker 3: come out recently. Now they're starting to edit your video
Speaker 3: and not say a word to you.
Speaker 2: Right, there's no train, there's nothing about it because they decided,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to go through and cut
Speaker 2: down all the content like they did to me. So
Speaker 2: now if I were to and I did that. By
Speaker 2: the way, I turned around and started pulling my videos
Speaker 2: off of YouTube because I started another YouTube channel, and
Speaker 2: because I was getting hit so hard so fast with warnings,
Speaker 2: flags and stuff like that. It was like, oh crap,
Speaker 2: somebody's running me through an algorithm here. And every mention
Speaker 2: of everything, like believe me, these Friday night shows became
Speaker 2: a landmine of problems because we talk about some things,
Speaker 2: you know, whether we're making a joke or we're discussing
Speaker 2: a news story, we're not always talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: the most wholesome of topics when it comes to no
Speaker 2: mentions of violence, no mentions of you know, you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to mention drug use. You know, even if you
Speaker 2: describe somebody as having an addiction problem to a substance, right,
Speaker 2: they turn around and they say, well they might have
Speaker 2: been addicted, and then you hear dead stop because they
Speaker 2: removed you know, words like methamphetamine, cocaine, crack, they remove
Speaker 2: any of that stuff in context of drugs. So they're
Speaker 2: removing drugs smoking, okay, any reference to or videos where
Speaker 2: people's smoke, and they're removing you know, any words that
Speaker 2: suggest violence or sexuality, which is making a real mess
Speaker 2: out of the Epstein videos, I'm sure on there because
Speaker 2: there's you know, a million of them. But I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, if you say that somebody is a sexual predator,
Speaker 2: that goes away. If you say somebody's a pedophile or
Speaker 2: a peederist, that goes away. Uh, if you say that
Speaker 2: you know, somebody was accused of rape or sexual assault.
Speaker 2: Some of the video guys that are out there constantly
Speaker 2: creating content have gotten hip, and now they're using terms
Speaker 2: like SSA who they say that the guy sayed, you know,
Speaker 2: and that means they sexually assaulted. And then they have
Speaker 2: a term for like kitty porn too, it may indeed
Speaker 2: be kp. So now we have people speaking like they're
Speaker 2: talking around a two year old because I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe you haven't spent a lot of time around little kids,
Speaker 2: b people, But every time people are around little kids
Speaker 2: and they want to talk about something that's ugly, you know,
Speaker 2: they spell it out or they give initials for it
Speaker 2: so that the two year old doesn't right away catch
Speaker 2: on to what's being said. And that's the way you
Speaker 2: the public, are being treated. You know, you can't possibly
Speaker 2: hear any of these things anymore. Now if you're a
Speaker 2: larger corporate entity, or if you're one of the you know,
Speaker 2: the blessed podcasters, none of your stuff goes down, it
Speaker 2: doesn't get edited, so it's not an algorithm that's gone
Speaker 2: all the way across the spectrum here. If you are
Speaker 2: part of the elite class, as per usual, you get
Speaker 2: different treatment. So Joe Rogan and his outrageous discussion or
Speaker 2: his discussion of drug use, or Elon Musk smoking weed
Speaker 2: on his show, that's all good, you see, whether it's
Speaker 2: in clip form or it's full podcast. But God help
Speaker 2: you if you're me and you talk about somebody smoking
Speaker 2: a joint.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do seem to be a little ridiculous on
Speaker 3: the way that they did not treat everybody fairly. It's
Speaker 3: it just kills me. You know, You're sitting there here
Speaker 3: enjoying a video and then all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 3: bleeps and blanks and you got to stop and read
Speaker 3: something on the screen because they can't say it out loud,
Speaker 3: so they just put it up in text. It's getting
Speaker 3: to be a pain in the butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But a lot of the texts are getting blanked
Speaker 2: out right, So the whole meaning of what's going on
Speaker 2: context is getting lost, and again it's very selective. So
Speaker 2: now let's go back to your Twitter X problem. You
Speaker 2: know you're getting treated that way, but not everybody on
Speaker 2: that platform is getting hit the same way. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is the interesting thing. Even if you're paying them, you know,
Speaker 2: you might think, well, hey, if I pay for the
Speaker 2: you know, Twitter Upper echelon program, whatever it is they're
Speaker 2: calling it, or if I pay for my blue check mark,
Speaker 2: I should get special privileges. Right, Well, maybe you do.
Speaker 2: I can't tell, because every once in a while, something
Speaker 2: weird of mine gets flagged, and quite honestly, I don't
Speaker 2: know what the hell it's getting flagged for now.
Speaker 3: I know that nowadays, it surprised me that a term
Speaker 3: that's been in use ever since anybody knew what one
Speaker 3: was is not acceptable, and that's just hear it tastes
Speaker 3: the hell out of me.
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder how they would feel. Lof tranny is
Speaker 2: like a short, dismissive sort of term. I get why
Speaker 2: somebody might take offense to that, But I wonder what
Speaker 2: would happen if you use the word, the phrase or
Speaker 2: word transsexual. I think that was one word, and that
Speaker 2: was the initial word that I heard about you know,
Speaker 2: a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Sure that one would be acceptable, you know, but I
Speaker 3: mean trans well, yeah, but is tranny?
Speaker 2: See but I've been okay, but I've been corrected by
Speaker 2: liberals over the word transsexual. And to me, I'm like, look,
Speaker 2: that was like the medical term when I was growing up.
Speaker 2: And there was only a couple of them that popped
Speaker 2: up on daytime talk shows, right. They were a curiosity
Speaker 2: even It was like, wow, can you believe we have
Speaker 2: a man who wants to be a woman. And they
Speaker 2: would come on and they'd be dressed like a woman,
Speaker 2: you know, and some of them, you know, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Some of them it was like, oh, isn't it hard
Speaker 2: to tell? And I'm like, it's not that hard to tell,
Speaker 2: but that's a little closer to woman than this other
Speaker 2: one over here, you know, to at least tell that
Speaker 2: one over there to shave before the show. You know,
Speaker 2: it was rough, especially New York. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you ever saw the talk I mean, talk shows used
Speaker 2: to be a little more regional and local too. You know,
Speaker 2: they weren't all national like Jerry Springer and Oprah and
Speaker 2: all that. They weren't all national. So like you know,
Speaker 2: I got the Morton Downey Junior Show, which was one
Speaker 2: of the most outrageous things, and they you know, uh
Speaker 2: syndicated it, but that was a rough show. You know everything,
Speaker 2: oh other things. Racial slayers are also off limits, but
Speaker 2: not to everybody. It's a very weird salad of you
Speaker 2: are allowed or you're not allowed to use words to
Speaker 2: report on things, to explain things, to describe things, to
Speaker 2: quote people. All the nuance is.
Speaker 3: Gone, like the whole It's like the whole Cracker barrel
Speaker 3: debacle that went on for a week. You know, everybody
Speaker 3: will said, you're thinking, well, you can't use the N words,
Speaker 3: but you can say cracker left and right, and you
Speaker 3: can refer to people as crackers and it's not a problem.
Speaker 3: It just amazes me. Yeah, Okay, how the hell wasn't
Speaker 3: cracker How the hell wasn't cracker barrel canceled years ago? Especially,
Speaker 3: we got an old white guy leaning against a barrel
Speaker 3: of your logo and he come on, the cracker doesn't.
Speaker 3: And I've seen some of these polls on on Twitter,
Speaker 3: you know, does this bother you? And instead of a
Speaker 3: guy wearing a Redskins jersey, he's wearing something with you know,
Speaker 3: uh got to he'll Billy's face on it and says, uh,
Speaker 3: crackers or rednecks. You know, does this bother you know?
Speaker 3: I was like, hell, no, it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 5: You know, if people would realize that, you know, people
Speaker 5: can take a joke.
Speaker 3: It's just crazy that we've got.
Speaker 2: We've gotten, We've.
Speaker 3: Gotten so dysfunctional trying to be functional that it's just
Speaker 3: it's sad. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, like I've said on this show many times,
Speaker 2: you know, my my mixed ethnicity. I'm not offended by
Speaker 2: any of that crap. I'm more offended by the fact that,
Speaker 2: no matter what I swear to you, there will not
Speaker 2: be an Italian president until after I'm dead. I'm more
Speaker 2: offended by that. You know, I realize we don't have
Speaker 2: much diverse city in presidential you know, representation or anything.
Speaker 2: But I swear to it. There will be a woman,
Speaker 2: there will be another black president. There might even be
Speaker 2: a gay president openly before you get an Italian in there,
Speaker 2: because we're just not going to get there. I find
Speaker 2: that a little offensive, But then again, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to get up in arms about it because it is
Speaker 2: what it is. But when people use you know, grease
Speaker 2: Baul guinea, this kind of stuff. I don't care. You know,
Speaker 2: It's like, look, I know what you're talking about, and
Speaker 2: you're just stupid, so what you know? But then again,
Speaker 2: you know, people would say, well, that's because you were
Speaker 2: never denigrated like okay, cool, I was never denigrated like
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I got my own denigrations going on.
Speaker 2: I get it. But same time, you know, if you
Speaker 2: keep butchering speech like this, I mean, and I know
Speaker 2: there's no expectation of free speech in a private business
Speaker 2: and all of these things, everybody forget. Oh that's my
Speaker 2: my first amendment. No, it's not your first amendment, because
Speaker 2: your first amendment is about what the Congresses would do
Speaker 2: and laws against your free speech. Somebody telling you you
Speaker 2: can't use certain words in their house or we're going
Speaker 2: to kick you out. They're entitled to do that far
Speaker 2: as I see, you know. But I'm just saying to me,
Speaker 2: if you come into my house and you want to
Speaker 2: use the word guinea constantly, and I get annoyed with
Speaker 2: you and tell you look, get lost, because you know what,
Speaker 2: enough is enough, And I don't want to hear this
Speaker 2: in my house no more. I have a right to
Speaker 2: do that, you know what I mean. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: These are businesses, right. You got public access, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you get to stay you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not really a public space. It just has public access.
Speaker 2: I mean, people got to wrap their minds around this.
Speaker 2: And the truth is, if you wanted to do something
Speaker 2: about it, you would create a free speech platform and
Speaker 2: actually follow through on that. But nobody ever does because eventually,
Speaker 2: and I'm telling you all those all those you know crazy, Uh,
Speaker 2: I am a real podcaster because I have a Rumble channel. Jerks. Uh,
Speaker 2: You're gonna learn real soon. Rumble's gonna turn on you
Speaker 2: as soon as it's big, and the politics.
Speaker 3: Gonna love you start cracking down, especially you know now
Speaker 3: that you've got people like you know, Nick Quinto is
Speaker 3: and that's the only platform that'll allow him on and
Speaker 3: some of the things done. I'm wondering when whin It's
Speaker 3: only a matter of when, you know, eventually they're going
Speaker 3: to start cracking down on people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's got nothing to do with the politics.
Speaker 2: It's got nothing to do with Oh my god, the
Speaker 2: right wingers came, that's bs. The thing is they already
Speaker 2: they've been open to everybody, and the problem is starting
Speaker 2: to show up because of the different corporate entities that
Speaker 2: get involved. So now you have you know, say PayPal
Speaker 2: or something like that that's involved in there. You know,
Speaker 2: just like they damaged me by getting out of business
Speaker 2: with me, if they turn around and threaten just like
Speaker 2: they did to uh what was it, bitch you, if
Speaker 2: they turn around and threatened to pull doing any business
Speaker 2: with them, bitch you can either bend or you know,
Speaker 2: beg their users to support us, because we're going to
Speaker 2: lose money from not dealing with this entity. Uh.
Speaker 3: And you know what I had with bitchhoot was it
Speaker 3: was the slowest platform. It would take forever for something
Speaker 3: to load. I would go, you know, Feter a while
Speaker 3: back switched over to bitchoot for some of his stuff,
Speaker 3: and I would go. And it didn't matter whose video
Speaker 3: it was, it didn't matter which channel you went to,
Speaker 3: but you would click on that thing and it would
Speaker 3: take five minutes for it to load before it would
Speaker 3: ever start playing. I never understood that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well look it's video codec stuff. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: You're right, bitchot was slow. But there have been a
Speaker 2: variety of platforms. Some of them legitimately tried to challenge YouTube,
Speaker 2: and there was even one that only almost looked like
Speaker 2: a carbon copy of YouTube, which was funny because I
Speaker 2: had heard that the guys who started it might have
Speaker 2: actually had worked for YouTube before Google bought it. Because
Speaker 2: Google didn't initially own YouTube. It was a weird kind
Speaker 2: of thing that they they've sort of covered up that history.
Speaker 2: But YouTube was not always owned by Google, so it
Speaker 2: wasn't always gutube. I remember, I.
Speaker 3: Remember when the takeover happened, that kick off a lot
Speaker 3: of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are people that even journalists have said
Speaker 2: to me, Oh, that's not true. They've always been owned
Speaker 2: by you. I'm like, no, they weren't.
Speaker 3: No, no, they were. In fact, they surprised Google and
Speaker 3: took a lot of their traffic when they started. And
Speaker 3: that was the thing about YouTube, It was all there's
Speaker 3: a channel that I listened to the Professor of Rock
Speaker 3: and he goes through and he does like countdowns for
Speaker 3: certain years, and and he'll do stories just on one band,
Speaker 3: how they came along, you know, certain things that happened
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 2: Is that guy, Wait, wait a second, is that that
Speaker 2: guy who does like here's like five crazy coincidences, you know,
Speaker 2: with songs that you didn't know how they were written
Speaker 2: or what they really mean. And then he goes through
Speaker 2: and says, this was actually about stalking, and everybody uses
Speaker 2: it as a love song. You know, obviously that's the
Speaker 2: police song. You know, every break take.
Speaker 3: He wears the uh he wears the hat, has the glasses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you get the guy's real name. No, I
Speaker 2: but I know who you're talking about. I don't know
Speaker 2: his real name either, but he comes up in my
Speaker 2: feeds all the time. And I got to tell you,
Speaker 2: I watch especially his shorts now a great subscribe. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: but his shorts stripe to.
Speaker 3: But one problem that he's having is and Rick Beato's
Speaker 3: going through this too. You know, when you have a
Speaker 3: music show that's talking about music, you're gonna play snippets
Speaker 3: of the music. And he's limited as the you know,
Speaker 3: the link that he can play or he gets demonetized.
Speaker 3: But certain record companies have been putting hits up. They
Speaker 3: have been registering complaints either on copyright or some other thing.
Speaker 3: Was a universal music group has gone over gone after
Speaker 3: Rick Bato for some of the stories that he does
Speaker 3: claiming copyright infringement. I mean, how the hell can you
Speaker 3: have a music show talking about music and they put
Speaker 3: such ridiculous, ridiculous restrictions on how many seconds of a
Speaker 3: snippet you can play or they want to hit you
Speaker 3: with an infringement. You're out there promoting these bands and
Speaker 3: promoting these artists, and you know, it may not be
Speaker 3: a lot, but I'm sure that there's traffic to these
Speaker 3: other YouTube channels for these artists just by being mentioned
Speaker 3: on one of his shows. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's guys like that that started YouTube. That's how YouTube started,
Speaker 3: was people putting content out there, creating store that were
Speaker 3: enjoyable that people would return to week after week and
Speaker 3: listen to. And now they want to go after guys
Speaker 3: like that. It's the satis damn thing to think that
Speaker 3: somebody can't talk about the top ten of nineteen seventy
Speaker 3: nine without getting the damn copyright strike.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, right, because what used to be the case
Speaker 2: was you could have twenty seconds, all right, and you
Speaker 2: were allowed twenty seconds. It was called fair use. And
Speaker 2: these record guys again, it's their shortsightedness. You're right, you know,
Speaker 2: I hear a song, or I hear that story about
Speaker 2: a song on you know, the Doctor of Rock guy,
Speaker 2: I might indeed turn around and want to go listen
Speaker 2: to that song now, right, So the whole thing exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's been a lot of times I've watched
Speaker 3: it and when it's over with, I'll go and start
Speaker 3: looking at old music videos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I want to see the videos.
Speaker 3: There's nothing but traffic, and it's traffic for those other
Speaker 3: places that are getting monetized, and they get't monetized based
Speaker 3: on the amount of views, right, like to shoot themselves
Speaker 3: in the foot.
Speaker 2: Well that's what you think. But I'm telling you that's
Speaker 2: why I'm so you know, everybody always gave me crap,
Speaker 2: But why are you so hyper about you know, keeping
Speaker 2: you don't want to use regularly? No, I can't use
Speaker 2: copywritten stuff you don't understand, even background music. Okay. People go, well,
Speaker 2: they don't care if you use a clip from you know,
Speaker 2: a documentary, and I go, yeah, but I gotta be
Speaker 2: careful because of what I do. But first of all, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's that problem. But secondly, guess what you can get
Speaker 2: hit from the music publisher. Okay, the documentary has permission
Speaker 2: to use that music. But now I play a minute
Speaker 2: of that documentary, I have now got myself a copyright
Speaker 2: claim against me from you know, the publisher for the
Speaker 2: music separate from the film. The film can have a
Speaker 2: copyright thing on me, the music can have a copyright
Speaker 2: thing on me. And sometimes there's even a third party
Speaker 2: that comes in that I think actually represents the actor
Speaker 2: or the talent. Okay, because you know, even if somebody
Speaker 2: speaking on a documentary, they have to sign a release
Speaker 2: that you're allowed to use their likeness, their voice. Okay.
Speaker 2: Well I don't have that permission, so I've got three parties.
Speaker 2: They can go after me for using the wrong thing, okay,
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter if I used it on a podcast.
Speaker 3: Or you remember, Yeah, I remember one of the first
Speaker 3: one of the first Friday or one of the first
Speaker 3: Wednesdays that we were doing this, yep, And you got
Speaker 3: a hold of me and I had something playing in
Speaker 3: the background, and there was a short clip of Jane
Speaker 3: Pauley narrating something. It was either on Today or one
Speaker 3: of the other shows that she was on after Today,
Speaker 3: and it was it wasn't five seconds, but you could
Speaker 3: hear it in the background. And I remember somebody threw
Speaker 3: up a strike on that video because of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was what six years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm telling you it's not gotten any looser,
Speaker 2: you know, if worse. I have had accidentally, like I've
Speaker 2: had somebody on here like play their own music during
Speaker 2: a show, right, and the artist is fine with playing
Speaker 2: their music on my show. But if I don't have
Speaker 2: clearance from you know, CD baby right and em I,
Speaker 2: I'm screwed. They could turn around and either demand any
Speaker 2: revenue that's created, you know, a share of it or
Speaker 2: all of it from that podcast, or they turn around
Speaker 2: they actually file a suit where they're demanding damages for
Speaker 2: me repeatedly using their material without permission. You know, I know,
Speaker 2: you know, your average podcaster doesn't have this problem mostly,
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm one of those guys that gets
Speaker 2: hit with them, so I always you know, I'm and
Speaker 2: everybody thought I was nuts when I first started saying, look,
Speaker 2: absolutely no copywritten material of any kind. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: have permission from the artists. Not good enough, you know,
Speaker 2: Like they were like, you're a jerk, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: you don't understand. I see what's happening, and I see
Speaker 2: what's coming. So a year from now, like, let's just say,
Speaker 2: even if it works right now this moment and we
Speaker 2: get away with it, a year from now, they'll come
Speaker 2: after us and say, you know what, you had a
Speaker 2: thousand downloads, you had ten thousand downloads, and so I
Speaker 2: can't even rewind that, you know what I mean. It's like, well, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: And they get their information from Apple because they have
Speaker 2: a contract with Apple, and that's one of the things
Speaker 2: Apple will do alone. So what am I supposed to
Speaker 2: do with that? I know you were around for some
Speaker 2: of these discussions, be Pete. Anyway, we do have a caller,
Speaker 2: so I hear you typing as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm answering Aaron in the room. He made a
Speaker 3: comment on why is the chat mont on the listen
Speaker 3: to live page?
Speaker 2: Now? Uh, well, I guess I will have to check
Speaker 2: on that. I recently had to extract some kind of
Speaker 2: attack file that was on the website. Maybe the chatroom
Speaker 2: is not working.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's something that I've noticed. It's been
Speaker 3: over a year that when I'm gone to o'chilly dot
Speaker 3: com and I go to listen a live it had
Speaker 3: it doesn't load the chatroom I always have to use
Speaker 3: the chat Tango address for the room, and that's been
Speaker 3: it's been for over a year now, so I thought
Speaker 3: it was just my browser wasn't loading it in the
Speaker 3: right section because I'm using Mozilla and sometimes it gets
Speaker 3: a little funky with stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I'm on Firefox right now, and there's always
Speaker 2: been a delay with the chat room. But look, if
Speaker 2: you guys are listening live, yeah, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: go to the ocelli dot com chat Tango because apparently
Speaker 2: for no other reason that I can. I have no
Speaker 2: idea why. And this is a new thing to me.
Speaker 2: The chat room is not popping up, so it does exist,
Speaker 2: but uh you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just put the link of the room. Of course they're
Speaker 3: not a room. They won't see it.
Speaker 2: Well see there's the thing. If they're not, that didn't
Speaker 2: do as much good.
Speaker 3: Hey, making the effort, I got you.
Speaker 2: But look, if you're hearing me, you got to go
Speaker 2: to o'celly dot chat tango dot com. And I believe
Speaker 2: that went well. Maybe not, hold on, maybe that's wrong.
Speaker 6: It's it's the dash o'celly dash effect dot chat Tango
Speaker 6: c H A T A n G O dot com,
Speaker 6: the dash o'chelli dash effect, dot chat Kago dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I gotta get that link and get to
Speaker 2: it myself, because I just went to my own personal thing.
Speaker 2: Oddly enough.
Speaker 3: Well, of all the news, I've had one story that
Speaker 3: hit me from all week long. This happens. This is
Speaker 3: happening over the UK. Let me tell you about this
Speaker 3: real quick, and it's something you don't think about ever
Speaker 3: happening over here because we haven't had go on here
Speaker 3: what they had over there. They've got some wildfires that
Speaker 3: are up in the North York Moors area, which is
Speaker 3: on the east coast about two thirds of the way
Speaker 3: up along the coast the Yorkshire Moors. And when you
Speaker 3: have moors, you have pete, which is just a certain
Speaker 3: type of soil structure. They burn pete in stoves and
Speaker 3: for cooking over there. Well, they've had this wildfire. The
Speaker 3: problem is they have all these unexploded World War tank
Speaker 3: bomb from when they used that area for tank training
Speaker 3: back in World War Two.
Speaker 2: Oh sure figured it.
Speaker 3: You know, you use the worst kind of of wand
Speaker 3: that you've got to train on tanks so that you
Speaker 3: never know you're ready for whatever you run across on
Speaker 3: the battlefield. So anyway, they've got all these unexploded bombs,
Speaker 3: and they've had more than eighteen of them. While there
Speaker 3: they're trying to fight, the fires go off, So it's
Speaker 3: not only your you know the danger of fighting the fire,
Speaker 3: but now you've got unexploded ordnance in the ground that
Speaker 3: is hidden as well. And I thought, you know, I
Speaker 3: can understand these fires because we get them over here
Speaker 3: up in the northeast corner of the state, and it's
Speaker 3: pete up there as well, So you know these fires
Speaker 3: burn underground. You don't know they're burning until they get
Speaker 3: to the surface somewhere. You have to basically flood them
Speaker 3: and create wet breaks to put him out. So it's
Speaker 3: typical in finding it over there the same way you
Speaker 3: would overhear. We just don't have the disadvantage of having
Speaker 3: a bunch of World War two ordinance underground and blowing
Speaker 3: up on us. I thought, now that's got to take
Speaker 3: some special training.
Speaker 2: You know. That reminds me not only that, but another
Speaker 2: local story to you. Didn't some congressmen just get rested
Speaker 2: in North Carolina or something? I was reading?
Speaker 3: No, we had a he was a gop. I want
Speaker 3: to say he was on the school board. Let me
Speaker 3: look that one up. Apparently he got busted for kiddie porn.
Speaker 2: Oh Okay, that wasn't even the story I was thinking of.
Speaker 2: It was another. But that's that's pretty wild too. North
Speaker 2: Carolina often has these like stories that you think would
Speaker 2: go bigger and don't.
Speaker 3: True, and they have a connection to a lot of
Speaker 3: stories that go mainstream. When you track back through the story,
Speaker 3: you find a connection in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Well that just figures. Like I say, there's always lots
Speaker 2: of Jersey connections, the weird things, you know, like literally
Speaker 2: even through to the JFK case, there's actually a Jersey
Speaker 2: connection which makes no sense, but you know, like a
Speaker 2: bunch of the characters were arrested right before Dealey Plaza
Speaker 2: in Jersey, and there's other weird stuff going on with
Speaker 2: Jersey people with the JFK ass. But it's like every
Speaker 2: time I turn around, I look for the new Jersey connection,
Speaker 2: and I think, you see the same thing with North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I don't see it as much, but we did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, we just this past week
Speaker 3: had one of these big mega preachers get busted for
Speaker 3: forced labor. What else they got them for They got
Speaker 3: them for a racket too, and fraud and wire fraud.
Speaker 3: But they also have him for forced labor. Apparently they
Speaker 3: were holding people captive and making them work in their
Speaker 3: call centers. Okay, this guy he's tied to. I think
Speaker 3: the church is actually located in Florida, but this dude
Speaker 3: lives in Durham and he just got busted the other day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the story that I was reading that I
Speaker 2: thought was weird earlier this week, and I guess it
Speaker 2: was only a day ago or two days ago or
Speaker 2: something like that, but it was this North Carolina election
Speaker 2: official arrested after allegedly spiking ice cream with let's see
Speaker 2: and what MDNA, MDMA, excuse me, and cocaine in his
Speaker 2: granddaughter's ice cream. Did you see that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Now, wasn't that the guy on the school
Speaker 3: board or something.
Speaker 2: Let's see board of elections here? Oh yeah, okay, so
Speaker 2: he's a board of elections guy, and he might be
Speaker 2: something else, but he's definitely wanted. And I didn't even
Speaker 2: see what his political affiliation was. I just saw the
Speaker 2: mugshot and like lots of pictures of ice cream and
Speaker 2: that he had put like cocaine and his granddaughter's ice cream.
Speaker 2: And I'm going, what plus MDMA, So I'm like, how
Speaker 2: is this not a bigger national like story, Like, how
Speaker 2: is this not one of those things that they go
Speaker 2: talk about outrageous? Here's drugging for you, you know, but
Speaker 2: I don't know it just it just is not really
Speaker 2: traveling anyway. We do have a caller, so I want
Speaker 2: to get to him before we get anybody else. And
Speaker 2: remind you guys listening, if you are here in US
Speaker 2: live that the chat room is working. You just have
Speaker 2: to go to Let me just double check that address
Speaker 2: so I don't get it wrong again. If you go
Speaker 2: to the dash O'Kelly dash effect dot Chattango dot com,
Speaker 2: you can go right into the chatroom, which is apparently
Speaker 2: not working on my website for some odd reason. And Chris,
Speaker 2: I see your message. Thank you. I haven't gotten a
Speaker 2: chance to check, but I appreciate it. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's just a weird world right now. The website
Speaker 2: was under attack this week. I didn't say anything about
Speaker 2: it publicly, but I thought I handled it all and
Speaker 2: perhaps the chatroom needs to be redone. I will fix
Speaker 2: it as soon as I'm done with shows tonight, you know,
Speaker 2: best I can. But I wasn't aware that the chatroom
Speaker 2: stopped working. It does work through chat Tango, so it
Speaker 2: does still exist. They haven't hijacked my account yet. I
Speaker 2: can still post in there. I'll put a Hello or
Speaker 2: high in the chatroom and you can always roll it back,
Speaker 2: so you know, if you go there, you don't get
Speaker 2: the player or anything, but you can just look at
Speaker 2: the chats. So where we are, it's the dash o'chelly
Speaker 2: dash effect dot chat tango dot com and chat Tango
Speaker 2: spelled with one T, so chat ango c h A
Speaker 2: t A n g o dot com. Okay, and that
Speaker 2: way you can follow with the live chat uh and
Speaker 2: roll it back still anyway until they take that away
Speaker 2: from me, and they shouldn't because uh, you know, I've
Speaker 2: had that for over a decade too, but who knows. Anyway,
Speaker 2: vp'd anything you want to add before I get to
Speaker 2: our caller, which has been waiting for a while, and
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure how long because it's not showing
Speaker 2: me the time. Now on the on the.
Speaker 3: Callers, now, go ahead and bring them all. Though I
Speaker 3: like the way you put that. You gotta put that
Speaker 3: little Harry Beelofonte Pauls in their chat Ango.
Speaker 2: Yes, got to put it in there. Well, you know, look,
Speaker 2: it makes it so people will remember when they're typing, right,
Speaker 2: That's what they used to tell us. Anyways, Uh, it
Speaker 2: looks like it's Chris from cal No, excuse me, it's
Speaker 2: Danny and California. I keep doing this, Chris in Florida,
Speaker 2: Danny and California. This is Danny in California. I think
Speaker 2: I don't know why I keep mixing them up. Danny,
Speaker 2: how are you? Man? Sorry? I keep doing How are
Speaker 2: you I? I've been sick all week and I've been
Speaker 2: trying to get shows out and I'm doing the best
Speaker 2: I can. But I guess the chat room's not working.
Speaker 2: It does work on the Chattango site Chattango it works,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't work on my site right now. So
Speaker 2: I thought I had everything repaired. I guess not. What
Speaker 2: can I do? I got a you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: one man a gang over here. So anyways, enough out
Speaker 2: of me, Danny. What's on your mind this week? How
Speaker 2: are you? First of all?
Speaker 4: Well, long hard week, you know, overall doing good?
Speaker 5: It's it's a labor day weekend and it's a it's
Speaker 5: a it's a it's a weekend that I get kind
Speaker 5: of excited about ball because I've labored hard my whole life,
Speaker 5: and it was always important I was around people, but laborhard.
Speaker 5: My father had his own business, and family were farmers
Speaker 5: and business owners and police officers and engineers, and there
Speaker 5: was always this sense of a work ethic. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of I kind of get excited about it.
Speaker 5: It brings back a lot of memories that was always
Speaker 5: it seemed like school always started right after Labor.
Speaker 4: Day as a child.
Speaker 5: And now we're starting to wind up, get down the
Speaker 5: stretch of baseball season. Now football season is going to
Speaker 5: start to kicking off college football, and then yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2: An exciting pardon that's BP like doing his cheering section
Speaker 2: for the beginning of the New Sports. Interesting though, because
Speaker 2: baseball would be way more down the stretch by now
Speaker 2: when we were kids. Because doesn't it like going to
Speaker 2: November nowadays and all that.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, you know you had Reggie Jackson who was
Speaker 3: mister October, so you know it always the playoffs and
Speaker 3: everything used to happen and be done by October, right,
Speaker 3: But back when Reggie was the what was he? He
Speaker 3: was the stick that stirs New York's drink.
Speaker 2: I think he said, well, I remember him being mister
Speaker 2: October and I used to actually kind of like the
Speaker 2: Reggie bars. There was a candy bar, a Reggie bar.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they don't try to Reggie bar.
Speaker 2: Did they even distribute those outside of the New York area,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we had them down here. I just i'd
Speaker 3: never you know, I'd always get a baby Ruth. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It was about the same to me as from looking
Speaker 3: at the picture on the package.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was weird to me being in
Speaker 2: New York because once I started to travel around the country,
Speaker 2: I found out that, you know that the Yankee Franks
Speaker 2: weren't the only you know, hot dogs named after a
Speaker 2: baseball team, because I thought, you know, it must be
Speaker 2: just them, right.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: They never tried doing Mets dogs or anything like that,
Speaker 2: or at least never that I saw.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But because Mets were always meant to suffer outside of
Speaker 2: sixty two and eighty six, we were meant to suffer
Speaker 2: all the time. So screw us the Yankees. You know
Speaker 2: where they got to question big name team?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a question, and maybe you can answer
Speaker 3: this because you know a lot of these connections, all right.
Speaker 3: Nathan's hot Dogs are the Nathan's hot dogs that I
Speaker 3: buy in my grocery store still owned by the Nathan's
Speaker 3: at Coney Island that started it all, or did they
Speaker 3: sell off that part of it? Did they sell the
Speaker 3: name for these products and the stores or are they
Speaker 3: still actually Nathan's.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if they are. It got
Speaker 2: a little confusing at one point, and I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if they own part of the company or if they
Speaker 2: still own it. But I have this terrible feeling that
Speaker 2: they did sell it off because they now have the
Speaker 2: Nathan's fries out there too.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I was thinking they had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the formula is basically the same, so you know,
Speaker 2: the nathan dog you get in another part of the
Speaker 2: country is the same kind of dog you get on
Speaker 2: Coney Island if you can still get them. And there
Speaker 2: are Nathan's stores two. Subrettes is another one from that
Speaker 2: area that did the same thing. I don't know if
Speaker 2: those are distributed as why. I don't think they're as
Speaker 2: big as Nathan's. But Subrettes was another one, and that's
Speaker 2: usually what came in the street vendor cars, like you know,
Speaker 2: the carts you would see in New York. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if those are there anymore. The hot dog
Speaker 2: carts on the streets in New York, those were mostly Sabrettes,
Speaker 2: so you know, it was a different dog there, and
Speaker 2: it is an entirely different sausage making that goes on
Speaker 2: between Nathan's and Sabrettes. Personally, I always like the Sobrittes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure if they still I know for
Speaker 2: years they owned a piece of it, for sure. But
Speaker 2: to try and keep track of everything corporate, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's such a confusing merry go around keeping track
Speaker 2: of the media companies. You know, who has time keep
Speaker 2: track of where your food's made. Snapple's another weird example
Speaker 2: of that, where it was a New York based company
Speaker 2: and they were just in New York, and they weren't
Speaker 2: just known for the iced tea, but the iced tea
Speaker 2: became the biggest thing. And you know, like when I
Speaker 2: first started drinking Snapple, I was happy because they had
Speaker 2: a cola and a root beer that didn't have artificial
Speaker 2: colors in it. It was clear, so I was drinking
Speaker 2: their clear sodas, and they had a lot more juice
Speaker 2: products than they have now when they were just a
Speaker 2: New York based company. And quite frankly, one of the
Speaker 2: biggest things that got them moving in the Tri state
Speaker 2: areas Howard Stern. You know, he advertised it, swore by it,
Speaker 2: and that's what grew it big enough. On Limball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Limball used to advertise for Snapple too, that was
Speaker 3: one of his big sponsors.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, see, Stern was pissed about that because Limbaugh
Speaker 2: picked up some of his big sponsors, you know, and
Speaker 2: syndicated after Stern did. Stern didn't get as many radio
Speaker 2: stations as Limbaugh did, but those sponsors were cutting deals
Speaker 2: with Limbaugh only based on the fact that they made
Speaker 2: good with Stern, and that was why that happened. And
Speaker 2: there was crossovers in certain radio markets and stuff. It
Speaker 2: was weird, and he was pissed at it because it
Speaker 2: was like, I helped build that company and now Limbaugh
Speaker 2: comes in and he's mister Snapple guys. You know, it's like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, that's what happens, man. But I watched that
Speaker 2: happen in real time. I mean, there was not much
Speaker 2: Snapples advertising anywhere until they got on the Stern Show.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty popular down here, especially their tea.
Speaker 3: I mean, people down here, you know, are tea freak,
Speaker 3: so they try to find something as close to home
Speaker 3: as they can. A lot of people bought Snapple.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of snap in the stores
Speaker 3: anymore though.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's as big, but it does
Speaker 2: have a presence, and I think Quaker Oates might have
Speaker 2: bought it. It's you know, the Quaker company bought it
Speaker 2: at some point, and you know, it's no longer the
Speaker 2: mom and pop New York company for sure, It's going
Speaker 2: to be honest.
Speaker 3: I think Quaker was bought out by I want to
Speaker 3: say Craft, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I'll find out it could be. But you know, you
Speaker 2: could probably just do a quick AI search on who
Speaker 2: owns Snapple nowadays. It's remarkable, you know, Like I said,
Speaker 2: there are certain parts of the country where doctor Pepper
Speaker 2: used to be distributed along with pepsi, and then in
Speaker 2: other cases it was distributed with coke.
Speaker 3: You know, here it was always with the seven up bottler.
Speaker 3: Whoever bottled seven up had doctor pepper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it was.
Speaker 3: Separate bombers than Coper.
Speaker 2: Pepsi here right, and that's Canada Dry. So that's yet
Speaker 2: a third soda company. Uh so even worse, Doctor Pepper
Speaker 2: is its own thing, but they end up having to
Speaker 2: partner with the local bottler or distributor, you know, like
Speaker 2: in Jersey. Doctor Pepper is practically a coke product. It's
Speaker 2: bottled in the coke uh factories there too.
Speaker 3: Started in Texas. I love Doctor Pepper. Let's see, Quaker
Speaker 3: Oats is owned by PepsiCo, which also owns Gate Ray.
Speaker 3: Let me find out about Snapple there you go.
Speaker 2: Plus they own a wide variety of energy drinks, like
Speaker 2: the superloaded touring stuff. Yeah yeah, Pepsi's got a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they got Pizza Hut, they got Taco Bell
Speaker 3: on their all owned yeah by that company. Let's see
Speaker 3: your own.
Speaker 2: And the only awful decision I made in the late
Speaker 2: nineties was with Red Bull because I thought.
Speaker 3: Owned by Curry, yeah doctor Pepper.
Speaker 2: See, but Red Bull was not owned by anybody. They
Speaker 2: ran their own trucks, they did their own deals and
Speaker 2: all that. And to me, I looked at it and
Speaker 2: I said, how am I going to charge two dollars
Speaker 2: for a twelve ounce caan of this crap, and I
Speaker 2: tasted it and thought it was awful. I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 3: I used to get in this argum a little bit.
Speaker 3: My brother he drinks Red Bull like crazy, and I
Speaker 3: can't stand it. To me, Remember Bazooka Joe bubblegum. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the little rectangular piece they had to comic wrapped
Speaker 3: around it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Well, when you would chew that and eventually all the
Speaker 3: flavor was gone, that is exactly what red Bull tastes
Speaker 3: like to me.
Speaker 2: Well, see, to me, it's way worse than that. I
Speaker 2: wish it was chewed bubble gum. When I tasted that
Speaker 2: stuff the first time, it was like I had the
Speaker 2: distinct feeling of like mildly apple flavored battery acid in
Speaker 2: my mouth. I mean it was horrible. I literally wrenched
Speaker 2: the first time I tried a Red Bull at a
Speaker 2: trade show and I said, there's no way in hell
Speaker 2: and picking this crap up from my stores and they
Speaker 2: were like, we'll get you twelve cases to start with,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, uh yeah, that's literally my And
Speaker 2: you got to remember too, I was in you know,
Speaker 2: my stores were in some odd neighborhoods. There was one
Speaker 2: neighborhood that was split rather directly between you know, a
Speaker 2: black contingent and an Orthodox Jewish community. And then I
Speaker 2: had another store that was like basically surrounded by lower
Speaker 2: class retirement villages, so it was old people. I wasn't
Speaker 2: going to be selling much red Bull anyway. But the
Speaker 2: thing was, I wouldn't even take that crap for free.
Speaker 2: I hated it so much. And it was a twelve
Speaker 2: ounce can that was going to cost me more than
Speaker 2: a twenty ounce bottle of Pepsi. So to me, it
Speaker 2: was like, why am I going to do this? This is stupid,
Speaker 2: and I don't think any of my customers are going
Speaker 2: to drink this plus and eight koshers, So there goes
Speaker 2: half of my customers at the one store. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It was like, forget this. You know,
Speaker 2: PEPs see at least has a kosher thing on it,
Speaker 2: Coca Cola has a kosher thing on it. Hershe's chocolate
Speaker 2: has a kosher thing on it. I can sell it
Speaker 2: to the Orthodox guys, you know. And I really did
Speaker 2: not see I mean I didn't see elderly people or
Speaker 2: black people drinking red Bull. It just made no sense
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: All this stuff is nasty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I sold Jones soda, you know, well
Speaker 2: when it was early on in its development, I sold
Speaker 2: lots of grape soda in the Black neighborhood all day long.
Speaker 2: I sold lots of coke and pepsi to the Jewish guys,
Speaker 2: no problem.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I also had these you know, crazy snacks that had
Speaker 2: you know, Israeli names on them that I couldn't pronounce.
Speaker 2: And I would actually literally tell the Kosher candy salesman,
Speaker 2: you know, give me the blue bag of those crunchy things.
Speaker 2: I had no idea what the hell they were, but
Speaker 2: I put them in there, right, kosher snacks in that
Speaker 2: one store. And yeah, in the old People's store, he
Speaker 2: damn right, I had uh, you know, denture cream and
Speaker 2: other convenience items specifically for that neighborhood. I did not
Speaker 2: see Red Bull flying in places like that. You know,
Speaker 2: you give me a Parkway store made.
Speaker 3: An interesting fact, and I didn't think it was worth
Speaker 3: this much. But when Doctor Pepper Snapple was bought, Curig
Speaker 3: hit to a team whoa.
Speaker 2: B Pete just went away. But Danny, you can still
Speaker 2: hear me right, Okay, b Pete might have to come
Speaker 2: back on to the jitsy link to uh reappear, but
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I find this interesting. Probably you, probably nobody
Speaker 2: else does. But I'm sorry. You know you you brought
Speaker 2: up Labor Day and we ended up talking about soda
Speaker 2: and stuff. I don't know how that happened. But anyway,
Speaker 2: what else is on your mind while we're at it?
Speaker 5: Well, I was just going to chime in the you know,
Speaker 5: the Nathans and Huber National out here in the West Coast.
Speaker 5: I mean I heard of those brands, but I never
Speaker 5: saw them in the stores until maybe about fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4: And I think.
Speaker 5: They're they're quite popular, because it seems like I'm seeing
Speaker 5: more and more like the regular grocery stores.
Speaker 4: And as far as red.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I never I'm not a heavy drinker of it,
Speaker 5: but when it came out, I drank not for the taste,
Speaker 5: definitely because I work nights and I drive. It definitely
Speaker 5: gave me a boost, you know, so, but I but
Speaker 5: I just I found that I found it for the price,
Speaker 5: I could just stick to a cup of coffee and
Speaker 5: I was I got the same effect.
Speaker 2: So yeah, see, now I'm somebody who didn't mind when
Speaker 2: you know, Monster came out and a whole lot of
Speaker 2: these other drinks came out. You know, they're better, Uh,
Speaker 2: they're palatable, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're more tasty. But I just have I've
Speaker 5: had a thing where I gave it up for lint,
Speaker 5: like over thirt years.
Speaker 4: I don't drink a lot of soft drinks. I just
Speaker 4: is just too much sugar.
Speaker 5: I mean, I do enough other bad things to my
Speaker 5: body and health that I just figured to just stay
Speaker 5: away from it. So the only time I like to
Speaker 5: have a soft drink is like if we go out
Speaker 5: to like a restaurant. Because I'm dot, I just don't
Speaker 5: drink when I go out. So that's my tree. I'll
Speaker 5: have one one Coca Cola, you know. And speaking of
Speaker 5: doctor Pepper, my wife grew up in Texas. That's all
Speaker 5: they drank was doctor Pepper.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, first of all, they love doctor Pepper
Speaker 2: in the South, but they also love Coca Cola and
Speaker 2: they have to say the whole thing Coca cola for
Speaker 2: some reason. Yeah, and you know, look, the Pepsi guy's
Speaker 2: too funny because he got pissed at the amount of
Speaker 2: money they were charging him. For the cokes here and
Speaker 2: made his own and that's how Pepsi Co got started,
Speaker 2: you know, fair enough, But these energy drinks have been
Speaker 2: a weird evolution because nowadays you have like the cheap
Speaker 2: stuff like venom and all that, and I find even
Speaker 2: the cheap garbage more palatable than the red Bull to
Speaker 2: this day. And I am a soft drink drinker. I drink,
Speaker 2: but I drink caffeine of all kinds. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know people are like, oh, you know, that's why you
Speaker 2: can't sleep in this, but truthfully it actually this is
Speaker 2: going to sound really strange, but it improves my vision
Speaker 2: a little, and well, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: And actually managing I am constantly like if I have
Speaker 2: nothing to help me, I could easily have. I could
Speaker 2: easily have, Like, let me think, say eighteen migraines a month, okay,
Speaker 2: more than half of my days spent in migraine without
Speaker 2: the caffeine. With the caffeine, I can manage it. And
Speaker 2: I can bring it down to anywhere from ten to three,
Speaker 2: which is the best I've ever done in a month
Speaker 2: that I can recall is three massive migraines and it's
Speaker 2: from my eyes, so it improves my vision. It dilates
Speaker 2: the blood vessels somehow and makes it more comfortable for
Speaker 2: me to see and operate. And I know that there's
Speaker 2: detrimental stuff to my health outside of that, but that's
Speaker 2: the trade off here. It's you know, it helps. So
Speaker 2: that's why I constantly consume caffeine. Anytime there was like,
Speaker 2: you know, any consideration of like, well, what do we
Speaker 2: need to get for you to travel, or what do
Speaker 2: we got to put on your rider as a musician,
Speaker 2: or anything else. Caffeinated drinks. You know, either you can
Speaker 2: serve me, you know, some coffee and you know, one
Speaker 2: time I drank coffee black, nothing in it, but even
Speaker 2: when I start to put stuff in it, at first,
Speaker 2: it was just a little bit of sugar. So you know,
Speaker 2: you can either get me lots of pots of coffee
Speaker 2: or supply me with a bunch of you know, highly
Speaker 2: caffeinated tea, or you know, easy enough, somebody buys a
Speaker 2: couple of bottles of soda for me to have and
Speaker 2: I'm a happy camper for a couple hours in a location.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, right, we get it. It's
Speaker 2: just it's part of my daily regiment. Even if I
Speaker 2: don't eat. I have to have some caffeine in order
Speaker 2: to function. You know, I can go a day without eating.
Speaker 2: I go day without caffeine and I'm guaranteed to crash
Speaker 2: into a headache. And some people say that's the caffeine
Speaker 2: withdraw but I've gone through the caffeine withdrawal and still
Speaker 2: on the other side of it. I'm telling you, more
Speaker 2: than half of my month will be spent you know,
Speaker 2: in a in a migraine. So you know, who the
Speaker 2: hell wants that.
Speaker 4: Nobody wants that, you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying anyway, but calculated drinks have become
Speaker 2: part of my life because I like coffee. Uh oh,
Speaker 2: you're still there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still there. You were kind of cutting out there,
Speaker 4: but I was.
Speaker 5: I was just trying to be patient and trying to
Speaker 5: figure out what you're talking about. Oh sorry, I kind
Speaker 5: of judge all the times that coffee is my favorite
Speaker 5: drug because it really does. The particular stimulant I get
Speaker 5: out of it really works.
Speaker 4: But as I've gotten older, I don't drink it. You know.
Speaker 5: I used to drink sometimes three four cups, but now
Speaker 5: I'm just down. I just do one cut because it's
Speaker 5: just the acid's too hard, too hard on my stomach.
Speaker 2: Right, I get it, and it makes sense, you know,
Speaker 2: But like I said, I just require that caffeine for
Speaker 2: those reasons, and I don't have a substitute for it,
Speaker 2: you know, it just and it doesn't remove it completely.
Speaker 2: It just helps me to manage it better. And I've
Speaker 2: never found an alternative. I've tried migraine medications, all kinds
Speaker 2: of stuff, you know.
Speaker 5: And there's also there has been a lot of you know,
Speaker 5: studies that there's a lot of benefits to like just
Speaker 5: just regular coffee, you know, and moderation.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It is a stimulant, and it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 5: a safe stimulant because I know that when I drink
Speaker 5: a cup, I'm on the road for a couple hours,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm more aware, I'm more too, you know,
Speaker 5: And I think that's a positive thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, definitely, look there there's that. But quite honestly,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of those effects have sort of
Speaker 2: left me, you know. And and indeed, another weird thing
Speaker 2: about it is, I don't know if you ever heard this,
Speaker 2: but like they always say, like hyperactive kids, they used
Speaker 2: to prescribe give them a cup of coffee. Well, that
Speaker 2: was one of the things done to me when I
Speaker 2: was younger, and it it was one of those things
Speaker 2: that used to help me to calm down really and
Speaker 2: actually even to this day as I drink it, And
Speaker 2: it might be because of my imbalance due to the
Speaker 2: fact that it's a constant. It has a calming effect
Speaker 2: on me mostly you know, during certain times of the
Speaker 2: day it will lift me up and help me wake up.
Speaker 2: But if I have caffeine right before bed, that's how
Speaker 2: I can properly get rest as well. So it's a
Speaker 2: weird thing depending on the time of day because of
Speaker 2: the orientation of the serotonin levels. Like I said, it'll
Speaker 2: help me sleep, but it also helped me wake up,
Speaker 2: which is weird. But that might be because I have
Speaker 2: some of that hyperactivity crap going on. So BPT I
Speaker 2: can hear you back. I don't know what happened to
Speaker 2: the link or whatever, but got you another one and
Speaker 2: here you are.
Speaker 3: Well, I kept using the link we used to start this,
Speaker 3: and it would throw me to a room by myself.
Speaker 3: As said, it is waiting for you to show up.
Speaker 3: I thought, that's weird. It's the same damn length we
Speaker 3: used an hour ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you and me and me and Danny
Speaker 2: were sitting here talking. So broadcast has continued and you
Speaker 2: were just off on your own. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: we need to find an alternative to this jitsy too.
Speaker 2: You know. It's been weird because of the teams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and we tried to use teams and then
Speaker 2: you couldn't hear the callers. So what am I supposed
Speaker 2: to do? You know, I don't know. You know, we
Speaker 2: got to find it. We got to find a new
Speaker 2: platform still, and I've experimented with a couple and believe
Speaker 2: it or not, I'm working with the best I have.
Speaker 2: If I have no need for phones, I can just
Speaker 2: use teams. That works okay for audio, but it's not
Speaker 2: super you know, but people don't have a problem using it.
Speaker 2: And it also has the option to use a browser
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But Jitsy is a little more
Speaker 2: open and actually, if somebody wants to plug in, record video,
Speaker 2: do whatever they want with it from their end, they can, so,
Speaker 2: you know. And it's not costing me money either, which
Speaker 2: is a good thing, especially because I've been short on
Speaker 2: money lately. A matter of fact, I even had the
Speaker 2: water turned off for a couple of days this week.
Speaker 2: Didn't expect that, but you know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: And got it back on thankfully. But you know, this
Speaker 2: is where I'm at, so you know, doing the best
Speaker 2: I can here. Sorry guys. Anyway, So yeah, we wound
Speaker 2: up talking about caffeinated drinks because of the Snapple discussion,
Speaker 2: I think. But Danny, I got a feeling you might
Speaker 2: have other things on your mind this week, do you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a you know, like I was saying,
Speaker 5: it goes back to labor, you know, and work.
Speaker 4: I mean, I started mowing lawns when I was eight
Speaker 4: years old.
Speaker 5: I had grandparents that lived two blocks away and got
Speaker 5: paid doing that.
Speaker 4: And I remember.
Speaker 5: You know, it was a good learning experience because my
Speaker 5: dad showed me how to mobile lawn and we had
Speaker 5: kind of like a patio and there's like this berm.
Speaker 5: It kind of went up, and I remember it was
Speaker 5: probably the third time on the law and I just
Speaker 5: went straight up to burn the blade. The hit this
Speaker 5: concrete and I bet the blade and broke the lawnmar
Speaker 5: and I was kind of devastated. I thought, oh man,
Speaker 5: my dad's going to kill me, even though he never
Speaker 5: did you know. And he worked next door and came
Speaker 5: in and he looked at what happened, and I thought
Speaker 5: he's gonna I was me in trouble, and he goes,
Speaker 5: you know, my dad looked, he goes, that's my fault.
Speaker 5: And I was kind of shocked, and I go, why
Speaker 5: is that?
Speaker 4: He goes?
Speaker 5: Because I didn't teach you not to go off that
Speaker 5: he goes, you didn't know any better. So I got
Speaker 5: a new lawnmarnan. I learned from it.
Speaker 4: So and then when I was.
Speaker 5: Twelve, I my dad said he's going to teach me
Speaker 5: how to work, and I've been. I've been working ever since.
Speaker 5: I've never been without a job. I had to work
Speaker 5: that summer six hours day, six days a week, and
Speaker 5: I got a paycheck, and I've been addicted to one
Speaker 5: ever since.
Speaker 4: And anytime I want any money from my folks, he says,
Speaker 4: go and I got work for you to do. That's
Speaker 4: kind of one of my early experiences worth work.
Speaker 2: And it just always worked.
Speaker 5: And I'm happy with the career I've had. It worked
Speaker 5: a lot of hours, I had crappy jobs.
Speaker 2: I'm blessed, no, I hear you. And I started working
Speaker 2: before I could get working papers and all that too.
Speaker 2: A little bit limited though because of the bad eyesight.
Speaker 2: But I did what I could. I mean, I hustled
Speaker 2: money from the time I was six. But then, you know,
Speaker 2: around the time Mom decided to get clean and I
Speaker 2: no longer had access to the bars. Well, then it
Speaker 2: was time to do other stuff, you know, and so
Speaker 2: I did the best I could. Little little adjustment period there,
Speaker 2: and then a couple of years later I was actually
Speaker 2: able to go get jobs, but I always worked too,
Speaker 2: up until I was, you know, deciding to get this started,
Speaker 2: and two job opportunities just fell apart, and I suddenly
Speaker 2: had no job. And I was just trying to do
Speaker 2: this to live on, you know, and did for a
Speaker 2: little while, you know, but it's taken different supplements here
Speaker 2: to even get by, and it is what it is,
Speaker 2: you know. I got a question actually, since well you
Speaker 2: you and well hang on, hang on, let me ask
Speaker 2: you this because I got an idea here. And I'm
Speaker 2: curious if you've seen this be Pete and Danny, you
Speaker 2: guys both have you know a bit of I never
Speaker 2: did a lot of the uh like landscaping or yard work.
Speaker 2: I did some and I tried to start a business
Speaker 2: with a friend, like you know, in middle school, with like,
Speaker 2: hey we got a lawnmower, let's just offer the more
Speaker 2: people's lawns. We made our own flyers and went out
Speaker 2: there and did that. Had very minimal success with it. Uh,
Speaker 2: but you know, I was out there trying to do
Speaker 2: that stuff, and I took notice of something recently and
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if you guys caught up on it. There's
Speaker 2: a ton of these videos that I think are AI
Speaker 2: generated off of real video because they all tell the
Speaker 2: same story. I went to this old lady's house. I
Speaker 2: just deed to help her out with her lawn because
Speaker 2: it was overgrown and she's a widow. And this is
Speaker 2: a similar story is told over dozens of these videos
Speaker 2: that are popular, and the guy's basically like I went
Speaker 2: there to do this for free, and you know, and
Speaker 2: you should like, just you know, do something with my video.
Speaker 2: You know, acknowledge my video if you think that paying
Speaker 2: it forward and doing the right thing is a good thing.
Speaker 2: So it's a positive message built with this cookie cutter
Speaker 2: formula of some guy going and clearing you know, an
Speaker 2: old lady's property and somebody always comes along to tell them, hey,
Speaker 2: you're not authorized to be here, or complains about the
Speaker 2: lawnmower or some crap. And it's a constant thing. And
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, going, this doesn't make sense that
Speaker 2: everybody's videos are very, very close to one another. It
Speaker 2: almost sounds like the same guy narrating it, even though
Speaker 2: it's in a different state, it's a different woman, a
Speaker 2: different story, et cetera. It's got enough differences to say
Speaker 2: somebody's trying to separate it. But yet I can see
Speaker 2: that it's a mass produced thing, and I was curious,
Speaker 2: what the hell that is.
Speaker 3: I can answer that I've talked to. I have actually
Speaker 3: chatted with a couple of those guys. Okay, some of
Speaker 3: them are legit. Some of them are legit. Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's basically the same story. In fact, in one I
Speaker 3: watched not long ago, the city had given this old
Speaker 3: lady a notice saying, you know, either clean up your
Speaker 3: yard by such a such state, or we're going to
Speaker 3: come in and do it and bill you. And this
Speaker 3: guy showed up to do the work for her for free.
Speaker 3: He has a long service business and he rides neighborhoods.
Speaker 3: He tries to find one a week to do.
Speaker 2: I watched that guy last night. I guarantee you I
Speaker 2: watched that guy last night, and because that's exactly the
Speaker 2: slightly different story that I went. Okay, But I think
Speaker 2: they took a couple of these legitimate guys and copied
Speaker 2: the idea of their story. And I don't know what
Speaker 2: the scam is, but there's got to be some sort
Speaker 2: of scam that's going on with amplifying these guys and
Speaker 2: then stealing their story into an AI cookie cutter that's
Speaker 2: meant to I don't know what draw traffic, get subscribers,
Speaker 2: or is there money being made off of this?
Speaker 3: I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: And even that times.
Speaker 3: That are legit, a lot of the people that subscribe
Speaker 3: to them make donations to help cover his cost for
Speaker 3: doing these jobs for people. So yeah, there is money
Speaker 3: generated on some But the two that I've talked to,
Speaker 3: one of them was somewhere I want to say, Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: or something, and then the other one was out west
Speaker 3: or more out west. But I've actually talked talked to him,
Speaker 3: sending them messages and all to you know, find out
Speaker 3: how they got started, because they're usually one guy teams
Speaker 3: or two men teams. Yeah, the ones that i'd usually
Speaker 3: watch is one guy that'll show up, but he was
Speaker 3: actually mowing the lawn, and the cop showed up said
Speaker 3: that he was interfering with city business right by doing
Speaker 3: this for this lady. And I thought, now, if that
Speaker 3: isn't going out of your way to be a prick,
Speaker 3: I don't know what he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's always somebody going out of their way
Speaker 2: to be a prick in these stories. And it's funny
Speaker 2: because it's like such a repeated story, perfectly beat or
Speaker 2: beat that I know somebody took a legitimate story and
Speaker 2: tweaked it a little and put it back out there.
Speaker 2: One of them even includes a guy saying I started
Speaker 2: working on this lawn and there was a homeless guy there,
Speaker 2: and so he offers the homeless guy a job. And
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's all about, you know what, if
Speaker 2: you want to help me pay for these people I'm
Speaker 2: doing for free, send me the money. And there might
Speaker 2: be a lot of people saying, you know what it's
Speaker 2: worth my ten bucks, And maybe they're kicking them donations
Speaker 2: thinking they're doing a good thing, paying it forward, and
Speaker 2: some of these guys are just copying the legitimate guy's story.
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't the people would do that just to try
Speaker 3: to take donations. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've already seen plenty of stories about
Speaker 2: gofundmes where you know, somebody has cancer and they don't
Speaker 2: actually have a daughter, you know, and all kinds of
Speaker 2: weird things, right or the kids already died and people
Speaker 2: are out there with the pictures still. You know, weird stuff.
Speaker 2: People will con you any which way and pull it
Speaker 2: your heart strings, for sure. But Danny, have you heard
Speaker 2: or seen any of this stuff with the lawn cutting guys,
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 5: Seen anything of the long cutting, but I have noticed
Speaker 5: on as uncle would say, the tic tac. It seems
Speaker 5: to be it sounds like almost the same voiceover in
Speaker 5: different stories and they're trying.
Speaker 4: To like sell you a story. I don't know what
Speaker 4: that's about.
Speaker 5: But as far as scammers, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 5: how people sleep at night. I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 5: just that my moral constitution is scan people out of
Speaker 5: out of money. But yeah, I don't know about this
Speaker 5: whole thing about a cop, you know, chast guys and
Speaker 5: somebody for cleaning up somebody's long when it's already a nuisance.
Speaker 5: I know that they have these yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know, some cities have theseus.
Speaker 5: You know, they like these complaints. You can complaint.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes in the story, now, this guy who you know,
Speaker 2: be Pete says is legitimate. I believe be Pete, but
Speaker 2: you know, and I believe he checked with the guy
Speaker 2: and she thinks he's a real regular guy. But then again,
Speaker 2: you know, how do we know that this guy isn't
Speaker 2: a scammer? Is my big question, because sometimes it's a
Speaker 2: homeowner association lady that comes over, or they say, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just some Karen from the neighborhood who's mad about
Speaker 2: the noise. You know, whatever it is, there's always some opposition.
Speaker 2: And look, I'm doing a good deed. And I wonder
Speaker 2: if in their messaging they just go, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: it's getting a little tough doing it though, because I
Speaker 2: can't afford the gas anymore. And somebody goes, well, look
Speaker 2: i'll pay for the gas this week. I wonder if
Speaker 2: it's just a step by step like you know, look,
Speaker 2: if you get a thousand people to give you five bucks,
Speaker 2: you're doing great, you know for a video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the two guys, the two guys that I talked to,
Speaker 3: they actually have websites that have merchandise that you can
Speaker 3: buy their company logo, their T shirts and hats, and
Speaker 3: a lot of them are like these shirts that absorb
Speaker 3: sweat for construction workers and things like that. But they
Speaker 3: never the two guys I've talked to, they never promote
Speaker 3: for donations. I mean, that's one thing they don't do.
Speaker 3: They don't ask for donations. They're regular subscribers, you know,
Speaker 3: either buy the merchandise or provide a donation for what
Speaker 3: they're doing. They never asked for it. They started this
Speaker 3: as being a pay it forward type thing, and they've
Speaker 3: been legit the whole time. So yeah, you know, but
Speaker 3: I'm sure there are people out there that would. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're just you know, it's like you go to I've
Speaker 3: listened to one the other day for like fifteen minut
Speaker 3: and it's about a border patrol agent that supposedly disappeared
Speaker 3: back in nineteen sixty seven. They never found a trace
Speaker 3: of her, and then supposedly she had seen something happen
Speaker 3: people paying off and trafficking people and they ended up
Speaker 3: being murdered. And I finally I sent a message to
Speaker 3: the guy said is this fact or is this fiction? Well,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a combination. I said, is there anything
Speaker 3: in this story that I just listened to that is factual?
Speaker 3: And they said no. I said, so you're just making
Speaker 3: these stories up. I don't know what the benefit is
Speaker 3: if people are actually sending the money or joining memberships
Speaker 3: in crap like that, but I mean it's ridiculous. I
Speaker 3: tried to go to watch something the other day and
Speaker 3: they wanted you to subscribe, and the lowest thing you
Speaker 3: could subscribe was forty nine ninety nine. I thought, screw
Speaker 3: that noise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, And look, there is a subscriber based model
Speaker 2: and then there's a donation based model. And I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, there's fools like me literally just going, look,
Speaker 2: I'm going to put out the content. You guys, you know,
Speaker 2: do what you want if you want to subscribe or not,
Speaker 2: or if you want to you know. But there's other
Speaker 2: people that I think have actually figured out how it's
Speaker 2: sad because I wish they would monetize real content instead
Speaker 2: of stealing other people's stories and ideas and just running off.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know. But the weird thing you yeah, YouTube
Speaker 3: will take you down for saying a bad word. But
Speaker 3: they let them a scammer like that have a channel
Speaker 3: and run it long enough to make enough money before
Speaker 3: they never you know, before they just take off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean YouTube, different channel, right. YouTube is loaded
Speaker 2: with stories of people that scammed all kinds of stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, where they went out and they did this
Speaker 2: like you know, sympathy scam. And there's actually a series
Speaker 2: I was looking at, you know, some of this stuff
Speaker 2: with you know, look sick kids. Right. A sick kid
Speaker 2: is a hell of an expense and no insurance covers it,
Speaker 2: all right, so you're always at a disadvantage if you
Speaker 2: have that. But there has been examples of I mean
Speaker 2: there's mostly legitimate ones I think out there, but there's
Speaker 2: been examples of mothers not necessarily you know, making their
Speaker 2: kids sick, like doing the munch housing by proxy deal,
Speaker 2: but saying that they are online, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: for years and then it turns out, you know, people
Speaker 2: sent them free stuff. Companies sent them stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: extra diapers, you know, baby sized, freaking catheters, I mean,
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff they sent them for free. Trying
Speaker 2: to support these people, you know, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 2: they got a free crib, they got you know, in
Speaker 2: some cases they wind up with a house right for nothing.
Speaker 2: And you know, in cars and all kinds of things
Speaker 2: that either companies or individuals have donated or put toward,
Speaker 2: you know whatever. And in a couple of cases they've
Speaker 2: turned around and found out, you know, the it was
Speaker 2: never sick. You know, the one lady literally adopted a
Speaker 2: sick kid in order to do this. I mean, there
Speaker 2: is all kinds of madness out there in the scammer world,
Speaker 2: and it's amazing that these people, I mean, some of
Speaker 2: them pulling millions of dollars before they get exposed. And
Speaker 2: I guarantee you there's a lot of it just get
Speaker 2: away with it too, you know. But I think the
Speaker 2: lawncair thing.
Speaker 3: Is, if there's something out there that's legit, there's three
Speaker 3: people out there scamming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. Like you might have found two
Speaker 2: legit lawncair guys, but I swear to you there's at
Speaker 2: least ten of them that are out there that are
Speaker 2: really well positioned in the search engines. Because I'm not
Speaker 2: looking for this stuff and it keeps coming up in
Speaker 2: the middle of anything I search. You know, if I
Speaker 2: start watching shorts. I go through, you know, a handful
Speaker 2: of shorts. I'm going to get that lawn care story.
Speaker 2: You know, my algorithm says, feed me the lawn care story.
Speaker 2: And I've got various versions of it now, you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, I know that one you're talking about
Speaker 2: where the cop comes over, because that's the only one
Speaker 2: with the cops. But you got the homeowner association lady,
Speaker 2: you got the Karen from the neighborhood. You got the
Speaker 2: random guy who walked up out of nowhere to bitch
Speaker 2: and complain because he actually does launs in the neighborhood
Speaker 2: and wanted to charge the lady, you know, And it's
Speaker 2: always an old woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had to experience that myself. A friend of
Speaker 3: mine that lives over here near me, I had a
Speaker 3: guy who owned her grasp and he just wouldn't do
Speaker 3: it the way she wanted. So she fired him, throw
Speaker 3: him hit the road, and I picked up her. After
Speaker 3: taking on her yard, her neighbor comes over. He pays
Speaker 3: me fifty bucks a week to cut his yard. And
Speaker 3: the whole job cutting trimming doesn't take more than thirty minutes,
Speaker 3: So fifty bucks for thirty minutes it's a deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can kind of you don't tell them this,
Speaker 2: but you can kind of take the discount lady next
Speaker 2: door because it's extra and she gets a break. I
Speaker 2: get it. And that's how you, you know, do stuff
Speaker 2: and you balance things out, unless people start talking to
Speaker 2: each other and compare notes, and then maybe you get
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 3: Well in two months, in two months time, I've picked
Speaker 3: up three yards. So between the three of them, I'm
Speaker 3: looking at this, three yards take me about two and
Speaker 3: a half hours total, and I'm making three hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that, you know, like work, Yeah, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: I would gladly take what is it like, seventy five
Speaker 2: bucks an hour right there, right for years? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: no problem yard work at seventy five dollars an hour.
Speaker 2: I'dn't even try and do that now, even though I
Speaker 2: probably collapse. But either way, you know, worth it. But
Speaker 2: my point is, I guarantee you some of this is
Speaker 2: AI generated because there's too many common things that they
Speaker 2: borrowed from somebody else. And some of the footage is
Speaker 2: even repeated. If you look some of the edging stuff
Speaker 2: where they actually you know, they turn around and they
Speaker 2: cut away the edge, they actually carve out the sidewalk
Speaker 2: back out right, and then they turn around and they
Speaker 2: just sort of, you know, scoop up the edge in
Speaker 2: one shot. That kind of deal and time lapse and
Speaker 2: all that they have some of the same sidewalk.
Speaker 3: Let's tell you what, I have to envy that guy
Speaker 3: for the way he can run a shovel. I mean
Speaker 3: that's hard work. Granted he cuts a lot of it
Speaker 3: with his edge and gets it loose. Bo when you
Speaker 3: got two hundred and fifty foot of sidewalk it's overgrown
Speaker 3: halfway from each side, that's a mess. That guy worked hard.
Speaker 3: I got to give him credit. He busts his butt
Speaker 3: when he does some of these yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see that makes it even more infuriating to
Speaker 2: me that somebody's grabbing his footage. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he can't be everywhere and monitor everything.
Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, there's so much crap
Speaker 3: on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I see about four different ones that come up in
Speaker 3: my feed because I've watched them, it's going to generate
Speaker 3: them back my way. So I'm only I've only seen
Speaker 3: about four. But you know, I always hit that new
Speaker 3: to you button up there on YouTube and The only
Speaker 3: reason I pay for YouTube is so that when I'm
Speaker 3: listening to music, I don't have to deal with commercials. Oh,
Speaker 3: I get it my YouTube music channel, and I want
Speaker 3: to hit you know, I hit shuffle and hit playing
Speaker 3: when I'm out there working in the rs. That's the
Speaker 3: only reason I pay for YouTube, so I don't have
Speaker 3: to deal with the commercials. I don't mind them so
Speaker 3: much in the in the videos that I'm watch them,
Speaker 3: but I hate to have music just interrupted. I might
Speaker 3: as well put the radio on. If I'm going to
Speaker 3: listen to a bunch of damn ads.
Speaker 2: Well, it's worse than the radio, because you know, YouTube
Speaker 2: doesn't even necessarily wait for a logical break, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: in stuff you're listening to or whatever. And me as
Speaker 2: a free YouTuber, man, sometimes I get hit with so
Speaker 2: many commercials because look, the creator punches in commercials. YouTube
Speaker 2: punches in commercials. Then a secondary you know, partner because
Speaker 2: they used a copywritten piece of material, so they get
Speaker 2: to share punches in commercials. The next thing, you know
Speaker 2: is you got a thirty minute video right which has
Speaker 2: a commercial every three minutes. It's almost unwatchable, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Or you lose track of the damn storyline because of
Speaker 3: all the damn ad breaks. It's really irritating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get it. Years ago I had the
Speaker 2: YouTube read because it was like something I could buy
Speaker 2: with my credit for my videos because I wasn't going
Speaker 2: to get paid unless I reached one hundred dollars. But
Speaker 2: if they took a small percentage from my you know, earnings,
Speaker 2: then I could have ad free. So I was like, yes,
Speaker 2: crew it, I'll give you two percent of my earnings
Speaker 2: that I don't even intend to get anyway, and sure,
Speaker 2: I'll take that for no commercials. But nowadays you Tube
Speaker 2: is well.
Speaker 3: They frenched out too. I mean they're carrying this YouTube TV.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I did by a trial subscription so I could watch
Speaker 3: the Hurricanes play in the Stanley Cup finals. But you
Speaker 3: know that once the free trial was up, I did
Speaker 3: not pay for YouTube TV. It's just too damn expensive
Speaker 3: for no more than they offer.
Speaker 2: Right, No, I get it. I'm just saying it's just
Speaker 2: one of these weird tickets. But this is the entire
Speaker 2: animal we're talking about here. You know, the censorship that
Speaker 2: I talked about earlier, which is getting weirder and weirder
Speaker 2: as we go on. Every platform. There is no platform
Speaker 2: that is exempt from this. Yet I got bad news
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the political considerations, but there are weird linguistic
Speaker 2: considerations and content considerations now, and I guarantee nobody's going
Speaker 2: to be able to keep up with this, and only
Speaker 2: the privileged view seem to be exempt. So if your
Speaker 2: big corporation or you've been blessed as an indie somehow,
Speaker 2: you're allowed. And it's not even necessarily the biggest subscriber
Speaker 2: base either, because I see people with two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand subscribers that are not getting hit, and then
Speaker 2: I see other people with you know, a million subscribers
Speaker 2: getting hit. So I don't know what the parameters are.
Speaker 2: It's very weird. But there are privileged YouTubers, and there
Speaker 2: are privileged people on other platforms. Guarantee you they're not
Speaker 2: getting warned on Twitter X whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: Guarantee you they're not going to Facebook jail. And I
Speaker 2: don't know who's getting picked or how at this point,
Speaker 2: nobody's speaking about that, so we're not getting any insights
Speaker 2: into what is actually being censored now by the tech snocracy.
Speaker 2: And I don't like it. Something doesn't speak well for it,
Speaker 2: especially when nobody can even get a handle on it
Speaker 2: enough to openly complain about it. It's getting very weird,
Speaker 2: so you know, and as AI goes, it's going to
Speaker 2: get stranger. So Danny, anything else, because we do have
Speaker 2: another caller, and I want to get to him next.
Speaker 4: Oh oh please take the other caller.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no problem, but I want to make sure
Speaker 2: you had time if there was something else you wanted
Speaker 2: to bring up, because we grab a hold of part
Speaker 2: of your topic and run with it, and I've had
Speaker 2: fun with that, but I hope I didn't cut you
Speaker 2: off on anything you needed to get to.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's great to hear, you know. You know,
Speaker 5: it's about honoring labor. And even in VP retired, to
Speaker 5: your congratulations, he's finding a way of still working.
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta. I mean there's you know, I don't
Speaker 2: see how any of us is going to stop working
Speaker 2: until we're dead. We might be able to slow it down,
Speaker 2: but I don't think we're any any of us is
Speaker 2: going to stop working. You know, maybe some people have
Speaker 2: that luxury, but I don't think it's many of us anyways.
Speaker 2: But hang on because I'll try and get you back
Speaker 2: on if I can. And if you're around, We're always
Speaker 2: great to hear from you, though, Danny, so hang on
Speaker 2: and uh another one of our regular guys. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I thank everybody who calls in. For sure, I'd love
Speaker 2: to hear from more of you though. Three one nine
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. And after we
Speaker 2: let our man here have his his say for a
Speaker 2: piece here, we might take a little break before we,
Speaker 2: you know, creep on up to ten pm, which I
Speaker 2: got to check the clock. I haven't looked at it
Speaker 2: in a while, but I know we're not on ten
Speaker 2: pm just yet. The age of transition should begin around then.
Speaker 2: If for some reason Aaron doesn't show, you know, we'll
Speaker 2: keep rolling. But I think he's okay because he's been
Speaker 2: in the chat room. And one last reminder that if
Speaker 2: you're missing the chat room on my website, by all means,
Speaker 2: go on over to the dash o'celly dash Effect dot
Speaker 2: chat Tango Chatango that is dot com and you can
Speaker 2: be in the chat room without the players and all that.
Speaker 2: I'll have to fix whatever is wrong with the HTML
Speaker 2: on the website, which you know I haven't had to
Speaker 2: redo that in ten years. So I don't know what
Speaker 2: could be wrong with it, but we shall find out,
Speaker 2: I guess. Uh. Anyways, yeah, so let's get over to
Speaker 2: that other caller and if I can get him back
Speaker 2: up there. He gess and I think we got Jimmy James.
Speaker 2: Let's see, yep, that should be Jimmy James on the line.
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 7: Everything's all right here?
Speaker 2: All right? Well, any goings on in Michigan. We need
Speaker 2: to know about Jimmy James?
Speaker 8: Well that day one? Nothing important?
Speaker 2: Nothing important? Yeah, hey, fair enough, here's a question.
Speaker 8: For you, beat b Pete and anyone who I'm trying
Speaker 8: to figure this out. When Oswald was in New Orleans,
Speaker 8: you know that's where and all them characters, uh.
Speaker 9: Huh if you do, you know their names?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Marette was was what Oswald's uncle, and he had
Speaker 2: had some involvement with Marcello's people. Uh, that's what you're
Speaker 2: talking about there, right? Who else?
Speaker 9: I just meant people that Oswald was hanging around with
Speaker 9: Hu the Devil's Charles Harrison.
Speaker 4: Charles Harrison.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting, uh name. I can't say that
Speaker 2: I recall it off the top of your head. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that that is an interesting name. It sounds very close
Speaker 2: to another one obviously, you know Woody Haroldson's dad, Charles,
Speaker 2: don't say it, I'll say, well, I'm not. Well, here's
Speaker 2: the thing, I don't know that Charles Harrelson would have
Speaker 2: had any reason to be in much with Oswald. And
Speaker 2: you know, just because they call it the Dixie Mafia,
Speaker 2: does not mean that it has anything to do with Italians,
Speaker 2: not at all. It's a totally different organization that was
Speaker 2: more like a communication network as I understand it. Not
Speaker 2: saying that I have a great deal of information on that,
Speaker 2: because I was never an insider or privy too much
Speaker 2: outside of people that claimed to have been affiliated or
Speaker 2: part of it. I could not even successfully verify some
Speaker 2: of those claims, honestly. But it's one of those situations
Speaker 2: where just because I can't verify it, I wouldn't say
Speaker 2: it's absolutely untrue, because it is one of those organizations
Speaker 2: where unless you were in on it, you didn't know
Speaker 2: about it for the most part.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and what's bizarre, outsend you and VP a copy
Speaker 9: of this actual document what it is?
Speaker 3: I got a question filled out Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Well, hang on, Jimmy was explaining some Oswald filled out something.
Speaker 9: But oh, he filled out it's not an application, it's
Speaker 9: a he had a resume and or No, it was
Speaker 9: an application. And he has three references.
Speaker 7: He was DUTs Marat's Charles.
Speaker 10: Harrison and two letters Oswald. And that's interesting because Charles
Speaker 10: Harrisson's quite her main name.
Speaker 7: Was Oswald, which is bizarre.
Speaker 10: But that's what I was going to ask you what.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you. Was his
Speaker 3: wife related to all Lee Harvey.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other question here is are you talking about
Speaker 2: the Sorry that the question we both kept jumping at
Speaker 2: the same time. I just wanted to know if he was.
Speaker 2: I just want to know if that application is for
Speaker 2: the temp agency. Is that the one you're talking about.
Speaker 9: Well, this was for something where he applied, and of
Speaker 9: course he spells like a mora. I don't wonder he
Speaker 9: didn't get the job.
Speaker 10: He spells it machine am, I AM I C H
Speaker 10: I n E. He's applying, trying to apply to be
Speaker 10: a machine, that's it. He spells it machine machine or
Speaker 10: something crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Totally inconsistent. Yeah, totally inconsistent spellings on a lot
Speaker 2: of his job applications. That's true. And even the one
Speaker 2: for Riley. The partial uh know note for his work
Speaker 2: file at Riley is it looks like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: a four year old filled out. It's a wreck. So
Speaker 2: I don't know which application you have in hand, but
Speaker 2: I remember something like this on the temp Agency application,
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm gonna have to see if
Speaker 2: I can pull that. You know who had all that
Speaker 2: stuff too, was was Joan. Joan definitely had all that
Speaker 2: stuff what was available back then.
Speaker 9: So I know, I was last night. I was listening
Speaker 9: to an old interviewer first Man, and she that was
Speaker 9: back when she just got done with uh all, her
Speaker 9: first JFK book, m Justice.
Speaker 2: It was called a Farewell to Justice. I was talking
Speaker 2: to her while she was writing it. Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 9: It was right after that she did an interview the boy.
Speaker 7: She was right up all this Orlands stuff right then.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh, absolutely, and quite honestly,
Speaker 2: the first revision of that book is especially better. And
Speaker 2: I never said this to anybody anywhere before. I helped
Speaker 2: her with her Mafia stuff to refine some of the
Speaker 2: stuff in there, just some of the side, nothing terribly important,
Speaker 2: but I was like, yeah, you need to clarify this
Speaker 2: and this and this, because you know, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2: Don't believe me, but check back you'll see you you
Speaker 2: made errors here, okay, and the reminder, but she wanted
Speaker 2: them corrected. She wanted everything corrected in that book. Blamed
Speaker 2: a lot of it on the publisher actually the first
Speaker 2: time A Farewell to Justice was printed. But I gave
Speaker 2: her some hints about a few things she needed to correct,
Speaker 2: and some other people did too. Uh. And I know
Speaker 2: Malcolm Blunt was on it, and he's very precise about things.
Speaker 2: So she was moody, but she was appreciative about it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she sure was a good person out and welcome
Speaker 7: person rest of peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh Oh.
Speaker 9: About about him being related, I don't know that yet.
Speaker 9: I'm still trying to kind of figure that out.
Speaker 7: If the Oswalts and crazy Woody Harson.
Speaker 9: Family somehow related Lee Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 2: It may be.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's hard to track down because he
Speaker 3: was in California when he got convicted of armed robbery
Speaker 3: and he was sentenced to five years, but he only
Speaker 3: did a few months time. And then somehow he made
Speaker 3: it to the Houston area and that's where he was
Speaker 3: when wood He Harrelson was born, and then he eventually
Speaker 3: he said, his dad skipped out in sixty eight. So
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, is there a chance that Diane lou
Speaker 3: Oswald is distantly related to Lee Harvey.
Speaker 4: You know there's a divorce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that. And there's another thing here, which again, look,
Speaker 2: you gotta be uh, you got to always hold in
Speaker 2: your back pocket a couple of questions. But I have
Speaker 2: a feeling a guy like Gordon Novell was also somehow
Speaker 2: tangentially involved with Woody Harrison's father. Okay, and this is
Speaker 2: something I don't think I've ever talked about anywhere either,
Speaker 2: but it's a possibility because the two of them were
Speaker 2: trying to make these deals with some of the same
Speaker 2: people regarding like an entertainment, and there was meetings that
Speaker 2: were held in New Orleans with those guys at one
Speaker 2: point that have been you know, spoken about by more
Speaker 2: than one person that went on that there was an
Speaker 2: attempt at a business deal for like, and Novelle's involvement
Speaker 2: is really weird, but he was just about helping them
Speaker 2: mike up things or whatever, like he was going to
Speaker 2: do some sort of like you know, wiring of sound
Speaker 2: for certain things, not necessarily to spy on anybody, but
Speaker 2: to be part of this like entertainment entity which had
Speaker 2: a club you know element to it, and was supposed
Speaker 2: to go all the way to Hollywood somehow. And I
Speaker 2: don't know all the details on it. I know some
Speaker 2: of the vagaries about it, and so many people spoke
Speaker 2: about it. It seems to have been a thing, but
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what it was. And I think Harrison
Speaker 2: even claimed that on the day of the assassination, and uh,
Speaker 2: like he was obviously elsewhere, but Novelle was in the
Speaker 2: midst of a meeting with somebody about something he didn't
Speaker 2: really discuss that had nothing to do with, you know,
Speaker 2: spycraft on that day, you know, because for a while
Speaker 2: people were saying Nobel was in Dally Plaza. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody's been in Daly Plaza according to somebody. Uh, And
Speaker 2: you know, he was like, look, I was at a
Speaker 2: meeting discussing some movie or something. And I remember him
Speaker 2: saying that in an interview even And somehow I think
Speaker 2: Harrison was involved in this, and I don't know why,
Speaker 2: because it just kept crossing over with these new Orleans
Speaker 2: meetings and meetings in like BP said, Houston, and even
Speaker 2: a meeting in California that went on trying to put
Speaker 2: together funding for this thing.
Speaker 1: So I had something about.
Speaker 2: The people.
Speaker 10: People that worked in the movie industry would not be
Speaker 10: acting in all that trap, Like special effects guys and
Speaker 10: stuff kind of had their own thing going.
Speaker 2: On, right, So this was like, yeah, so this was
Speaker 2: like stuntmen and like you know, and and the carpenter
Speaker 2: guys and things like that, the guys who really do
Speaker 2: make you know, the movies run. We're getting together to
Speaker 2: create something that was obviously gonna involve, you know, some
Speaker 2: of these criminal figures to make sure the unions got
Speaker 2: managed right, to make sure you know, cops got paid
Speaker 2: off or whatever. And Novell was an on, you know,
Speaker 2: an obvious go go between for certain things, and so
Speaker 2: was Harrison. And this was starting to come together and
Speaker 2: never got done because you know, Harrison wound up in prison,
Speaker 2: right and Novell, you know, got chased off by Garrison later.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you also work for gears, like trick them into work,
Speaker 7: and for a while didn't.
Speaker 2: Right, And most likely he probably helped bug Garrison at
Speaker 2: one point for somebody.
Speaker 1: The C I A.
Speaker 7: Well, we're all worried.
Speaker 2: Well, see, that's the thing Novell. You know, he never
Speaker 2: officially worked for the CIA, but he had contacts but
Speaker 2: also with the FBI, but also with you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like Novell was like a freelancer, right, like.
Speaker 8: H I could have been.
Speaker 1: That's the problem, it could have been.
Speaker 7: That's the problem these guys. They're for hire, they're for higher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the problem with that's the problem I
Speaker 2: like Frank Sturgis too. Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, but
Speaker 2: that's the problem with it. Yeah, that's the problem with
Speaker 2: a guy like Frank Sturgis too, is that. Yeah, at
Speaker 2: certain points he was working for certain people. And we
Speaker 2: know he probably got you know, some funding from some
Speaker 2: C I A P people, He probably got some mob
Speaker 2: funding this and that. But the truth is Sturgis was
Speaker 2: a freelancer and he probably did some dirty work for
Speaker 2: a bunch of different people, and who knows who paid him,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's it's a twisted web
Speaker 2: to try and unravel, you know. So as far as
Speaker 2: this Harrison versus Harrison, who knows, maybe it is Oswald
Speaker 2: spelling something wrong, which would be hilarious, you.
Speaker 8: Know, I know, I know, I just it's just so cras,
Speaker 8: like he's got the kid.
Speaker 1: And then right after that there's like two initials Oswalt.
Speaker 7: I was like, what is this ma Oswalt.
Speaker 1: But then I learned that crazy harrelsome woman was named
Speaker 1: something something Oswald. I don't know, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: pick himTo that just for giggles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the other thing is there, you go, there's
Speaker 2: another one.
Speaker 3: Diane Lou Oswald was her full name.
Speaker 2: So could it be a D. L.
Speaker 1: See, I'm gonna have to go check and see because
Speaker 1: I remember it being.
Speaker 7: Two leaders and I was like, Okay, what's that.
Speaker 9: He's putting his mother down ma Oswald.
Speaker 7: But now I'm wondering if it.
Speaker 9: Was a B. L.
Speaker 3: Oswald, if it was Marguerite Oswalt's middle name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget what Marguerite Oswald's middle name was, but
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't put it past her to represent
Speaker 2: herself as somebody else, like, yeah, I happen to be
Speaker 2: his aunt. I know she did that a couple of times,
Speaker 2: which confused the record, and some people say, oh, that's
Speaker 2: because she wasn't really his mother, and you know, to
Speaker 2: Oswald's at all. But but the thing is sometimes just
Speaker 2: to you know, yeah, I'm a reference. I happen to
Speaker 2: be his aunt. He used to rent from me, you know,
Speaker 2: this kind of thing. She did that for him, So
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe she was his job reference. That's possibility,
Speaker 2: but you know, but it's a whole weird because nothing
Speaker 2: is exactly. That's the problem with Oswald too. And even
Speaker 2: when Larry was talking about I don't know if you
Speaker 2: heard the show from Wednesday, but Larry was talking about
Speaker 2: having to correct himself because he finally can see the
Speaker 2: whole letter, you know, to the Communist Party, right, And
Speaker 2: if you just take the sensational passage out and say
Speaker 2: I think I need to go underground, that's pretty extreme.
Speaker 2: But if you put the whole letter into context, he's
Speaker 2: asking a lot of questions because he thinks the Communist
Speaker 2: Party people are going to have better advice for him,
Speaker 2: just like he asked for you know, that attorney act
Speaker 2: when he got arrested, even though he had no previous
Speaker 2: relationship with that attorney whatsoever. It's just that he happened
Speaker 2: to know that that guy had represented other people accused
Speaker 2: of communism, so he was reaching out to a rock
Speaker 2: star and that sort of community because he knew about him.
Speaker 2: He also reached out to the Communist Party of the USA,
Speaker 2: and he didn't have a membership with them, you know,
Speaker 2: literally asking did I damage the Fair Play for Cuba
Speaker 2: Committee with my actions? You know, this gives you a
Speaker 2: different insight as opposed to just asking should I go underground?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So, like I said, Larry
Speaker 2: even said, look, you got to look at the whole thing,
Speaker 2: and even I can make that mistake. Context is important
Speaker 2: and you have to put these things in their proper context.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I do realize we're running out of time,
Speaker 2: So I want to give Jimmy, if you got a
Speaker 2: final thought for the week, go ahead and drop it.
Speaker 2: But sorry, it took me a minute to answer your question.
Speaker 8: Well, I appreciate it everyone, I have a good week
Speaker 8: and peace.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Jimmy, and I wish we had more time
Speaker 2: to go into that stuff. But then again, you know,
Speaker 2: every week we do a JFK question and just demote
Speaker 2: part of the show to it, for sure, and I
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind. I don't know if the listener's mind, but
Speaker 2: I wouldn't And Bpete has interest and insights as well,
Speaker 2: so you know, not just for me. Meanwhile, Danny, I
Speaker 2: want to give you a final word for the week
Speaker 2: as well, if we could real fast and we'll get
Speaker 2: on out of here.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, just daughter Labor and everybody enjoyed.
Speaker 4: The dear Labor Day weekend and I wish everyby the best.
Speaker 4: Thank you for letting me.
Speaker 2: Out, absolutely, Danny, appreciate you, and sorry, I always seem
Speaker 2: to mix you up with I think of Chris, I
Speaker 2: see Chris somewhere or I see his name, and I
Speaker 2: somehow mix the two of you together. I think it's
Speaker 2: because I just find I mean, you guys are two
Speaker 2: totally different people. But I think it's just that you know,
Speaker 2: you're from some other state, you know, a bit away
Speaker 2: from me, and I just think of you guys as
Speaker 2: I don't know, just nice guys with totally different points
Speaker 2: of view, and so I mix you up because you're
Speaker 2: nice guys. Uh. Anyway, sorry about that, Danny, and thanks
Speaker 2: again for calling. No, thank you anyways with that, b Pete,
Speaker 2: go ahead and get your final word. I just need
Speaker 2: a minute to go ahead and set up another jitsy
Speaker 2: link I think, so we can get Aaron on and
Speaker 2: get the age of transitions rolling here.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just I'm just gonna say, I appreciate everybody
Speaker 3: calling in Danny and Jimmy, and we got another week
Speaker 3: in the can. I hope everybody has a nice holiday
Speaker 3: on Monday. Enjoy the day off you earned it. And
Speaker 3: other than that, go to a Chelly dot com and
Speaker 3: hit the donate button. Do which can Every little bit helps?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, and you know, again, I appreciate you
Speaker 2: guys who have done that. You know, things have been low,
Speaker 2: et cetera. I'm hoping to produce the news show that
Speaker 2: was requested recently. It was requested on Twitter and private messages.
Speaker 2: I really didn't think anybody wanted the new shows anymore,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't that worried about producing them. But I
Speaker 2: have stuff loaded up and ready to do a new
Speaker 2: show over the weekend even to get started. And next
Speaker 2: week might be a very interesting week, depending on who
Speaker 2: decides to show up and who I might be able
Speaker 2: to engage regarding a bunch of topics. So let's see
Speaker 2: what happens and if I can avoid getting into an
Speaker 2: argument about Israel, even though that's not the topic that
Speaker 2: happened with a guest I was setting up recently. I
Speaker 2: didn't even want that topic wasn't even what I was
Speaker 2: looking to talk to him about. And somehow he needed
Speaker 2: to test my ideas about what's happening in Israel and Gaza,
Speaker 2: and he didn't like my answer, and it blew up
Speaker 2: into a thing, and now I don't have a guest.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, whatever, I'm not going to lie
Speaker 2: to you to just, you know, curry your favors. I
Speaker 2: can't do that. It's just one of the few things
Speaker 2: I won't do. You know, I'm not going to dishonestly
Speaker 2: represent myself. Same thing happened over vaccines. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: that's just a real quick note. You know, this week
Speaker 2: everybody thinks I got trumped arrangement syndrome. Got to tell you,
Speaker 2: if everything else wasn't so screwed up, I'd probably be
Speaker 2: celebrating over what Bobby Kennedy just did. Regardless of what
Speaker 2: you think of it. I think it was a good
Speaker 2: idea to do what he did at CDC. But you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just crazy and I'm a Democrat, so supposedly not really,
Speaker 2: but some people think that'd be pete anyway, I'm glad.
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