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<v Speaker 1>We are the music makers and we are the dreamers

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<v Speaker 1>of dreams. Imagine what would it happen if we had

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<v Speaker 1>and attracted the magic we had back when we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>fathom life is the fantasy, not with the fanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the way it was back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So I grabbed my pan and write.

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<v Speaker 3>It down like a scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>Missed the mist making hits for the Misfits, the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you don't know what you don't know? When it's

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<v Speaker 3>on again? What Sewn and.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan, Welcome to met A Mystics or you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you don't know? My name is Jonathan and Sean

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<v Speaker 2>is a little under the weather tonight. That's all right,

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<v Speaker 2>just sending good vibes and good frequencies tonight, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that would be greatly appreciated for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah dude, Well, tonight is actually a special night. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't record this past Wednesday. It was Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wants to spend time with their family and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why we're doing it this Friday. And I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think we're gonna have to do the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>next week because New Year's Eve is Wednesday, So all

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<v Speaker 2>the good things happened. Happened on Wednesdays, That's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Love a hump day, you know, right exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so tonight it was I had Actually I

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to Jacob. I went on to the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>Live show the other night and I said that we

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<v Speaker 2>were preparing to do this show, the Jesus Versus Paul Show,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, oh, well, I'm not shocked and

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't invite me, And I was like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think you would want to please come, like I would love.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to battle like what I've taken in

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<v Speaker 2>over the past couple of weeks with all of this

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<v Speaker 2>against you. Who's somebody who's been with their entire life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because he was raised that way. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>raised in this stuff. Like I have no bias towards

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<v Speaker 2>this one way or another, Like I'm not angry at Christianity.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not like subdued by it, like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who are you know, recovering still from it

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the people that are still in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and no shade thrown against people that are still believing

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<v Speaker 2>in Christianity. There's a lot of people that are still

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<v Speaker 2>very Christian right. But the reason why we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>bring this show today was because I believe that by

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<v Speaker 2>showing the difference in between what Paul and what Jesus said,

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<v Speaker 2>it will lend more validity to the Nagamadi right.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure, dude. And this episode, I think, for

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<v Speaker 3>sure is probably going to be more for the people

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<v Speaker 3>that are either on the fence when it comes to Christianity,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, or even people that are

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<v Speaker 3>really still immersed in it, but like have questions, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Like for someone like you and I,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't really matter either way. I think, like any

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<v Speaker 3>of the information that here tonight, it's gonna be interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get me wrong, But as far as like it

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<v Speaker 3>changing my life in any way, I don't think. So.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, actually I think you might be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I gonna eat my words? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm cool and in a good way, in a

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<v Speaker 2>good way. So I think tonight will actually will actually

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<v Speaker 2>understand not that we weren't already there. You know, We've

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<v Speaker 2>always looked at Jesus as some kind of sage or

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<v Speaker 2>mystic or what have you, right, a master, but never

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense of what Paul was trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you might be thinking, well, hold on the

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<v Speaker 2>apostle Paul Saul who turned into Paul. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy was going around and he was killing a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of Christians, right, this was what he was known for.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he uh, he had a vision of Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>on the road to Damascus and changed his ways and

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<v Speaker 2>forever that changed the history of Christianity. Now, I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>for people I having visions. I like going into a

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<v Speaker 2>trance state myself from time to time. Right, who doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like getting a little hypnotic or a little meditated or

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<v Speaker 2>a little medicated even, right, But to literally change what

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<v Speaker 2>the living person Jesus was saying while he was here

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<v Speaker 2>on earth, and to now say somewhere along the lines

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<v Speaker 2>of like, well, you people, you heard from the man Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>I got divine revelation from him. Therefore my experience of

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus is more powerful. It trumps yours.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the ascended version of Jesus, you know. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>in general, it's still God anyway, right, I Mean that's

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<v Speaker 3>what most Christians believe is Jesus is God in flesh.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, how more you know advance?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you get that's what I'm saying. You know, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what they said about him was that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was he was man. He was one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>man and one hundred percent God. It wasn't fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty like a Debi god situation is what they say, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so you're like, okay, and then especially like after

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<v Speaker 2>how much we've been covering what it means to actually

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<v Speaker 2>be God or to be one with God. And in

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<v Speaker 2>so wait a second, So now you're saying that there

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<v Speaker 2>is only one God, that everything isn't one thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>that that God, who was also a man, was also

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<v Speaker 2>living up in heaven and he needed a blood sacrifice

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<v Speaker 2>in order to atone for the sins of all humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>And even then.

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<v Speaker 2>People need to declare that they believe that Jesus Christ

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<v Speaker 2>died for their sins in order to be a Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you're trying to tell me, right, It never

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<v Speaker 2>rang true to me. It never made any sense. He

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<v Speaker 2>died for the sins? Why do we need to do

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<v Speaker 2>all this extra stuff? Does that mean that sin is

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<v Speaker 2>no more?

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<v Speaker 3>There is?

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<v Speaker 2>Was there no more sin?

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<v Speaker 3>Sin?

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<v Speaker 2>Sin still around? And as a matter of fact, if

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to Paul, you are a human, which means

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<v Speaker 2>basically you are literally just a walking sin.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. We didn't have a chance, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus never said anything like that, and I got the receipts,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna be dude. I'm telling you, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>submerged myself so deep into one episode in my entire life,

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<v Speaker 2>mainly because I'm not gonna lie. Mainly because I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that Jacob was initially going to be on this live show.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, all right, I gotta make sure

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<v Speaker 2>I'm prepared. I'd like, whenever I'm awake, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be researching and documenting and making sure I got all

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<v Speaker 2>the quotes and making sure you know what, I got

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<v Speaker 2>everything and a good understanding of it all and everything

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<v Speaker 2>and uh. And so I asked him earlier today. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, you're gonna be jumping on for the

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus versus Paul conversation. He goes, oh, I wish I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I could have, but he has to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>a Cult of Conspiracy show tonight, unfortunately. But I told him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, this will give me a chance to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of yeah, work it out a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and uh that way whenever it comes time to

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<v Speaker 2>actually do battle. Jacob's getting a seasoned vet on this information.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, man, sounds good. No, I wish you could

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<v Speaker 3>have joined this man. That would have been really fun

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<v Speaker 3>to see you guys go.

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<v Speaker 2>Back and forth, you know, for sure, Yeah, definitely would have.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, before we get over to that, the messages here,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kabala King says, let's effing go. Uh. Dougie said,

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<v Speaker 2>who's here for Jonathan versus Jacob? I had, I had said,

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<v Speaker 2>I first of all, I wanted Jacob to come on

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<v Speaker 2>this show. He couldn't unfortunately, But yes, that is coming

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<v Speaker 2>in the future for sure. And it's probably coming in

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as a week or two from now. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>all right, all right, and we'll make sure it's on

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<v Speaker 2>a live show, Okay, yeah, because this shit needs an audience,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right, So all right, So I have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of recips right here, and that is what we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get into. So, Sean, have you heard a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about this, Like have you heard that people are

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<v Speaker 2>debating whether you know, whether Paul was actually inspired by

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus or is this like his own way of you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually kind of my first actual run in with

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<v Speaker 3>any of this really like you bringing it up and

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<v Speaker 3>then you know, just be kind of looking into it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing. But to be honest with you, I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just thought that they were all like like

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<v Speaker 3>similar as far as like how they came to be

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus' apostles. You know, I didn't know that he was

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<v Speaker 3>the thirteenth apostle and only after Jesus had died and

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<v Speaker 3>like all of this stuff, So this is all new

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is said that Jesus spoke in the four

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<v Speaker 2>Man Gospels. That would be Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the four man gospels of the Bible in

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<v Speaker 2>the New Testament, right, and then there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>other books in there that include a lot of Paul's writings,

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<v Speaker 2>but even Luke. One of the main gospels is Luke,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have the Book of Timothy. So in

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy and Luke is kind of strange because they were

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<v Speaker 2>both disciples of Paul. Okay, okay, so Timothy and Luke

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<v Speaker 2>were both disciples of Paul. So if you include Paul, Timothy,

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<v Speaker 2>and Luke, they make up fifty percent of the New Testament.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the crazy thing. None of them ever met Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Wow, none of them ever met Jesus here? You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Jesus had twelve disciples or twelve apostles, right, he

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<v Speaker 2>had all these followers. Why couldn't we get one of

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<v Speaker 2>them to our jobs? Something? Down? Is my is my question?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So I just think that it's kind of strange that

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting a retelling of a re understanding and then

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<v Speaker 2>new rules on top of stuff that he had already

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<v Speaker 2>said that actually contradicts a lot of what his message

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And the thing I wondered is like why Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like why why him? Why is he the

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<v Speaker 3>one that got to have this vision and communicate with

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus himself, you know, and to be sent on this mission?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like why Paul?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of people what else after that? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's an issue. Why would it be Paul?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know who else had those questions about why

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<v Speaker 2>would it be Paul? Would be Jesus's actual followers, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his brother James, his brother Peter, and a couple other

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<v Speaker 2>apostles were actually taken back that Jesus would have met

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<v Speaker 2>Paul previously. His name was Saul. Then he converted to

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<v Speaker 2>Christianity and he turned he changes to Paul. Right, his

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<v Speaker 2>original og followers that were with them from day one, Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean his his literal brothers, Bro were with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like Jesus came to you, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that was literally murdering Christians, hundreds, if not thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>Christians Paul murdered right, right, he was a Pharisee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a Pharisee. And he believed in all of

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<v Speaker 2>these like archaic ways of understanding religion in general and

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<v Speaker 2>spirituality in general. And and a lot of the pharisee

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<v Speaker 2>type of shit is really where a lot of the uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the more judgmental and more governmental understanding of what it

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<v Speaker 2>means to be a proper Christian, it's all Pharisee shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And and if anybody well, I mean, I know that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us are still pretty new as far

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<v Speaker 2>as sticking our nose in the Bible. But the Pharisees

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<v Speaker 2>sudden we have Paul who used to be a Pharisee

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisee type of way. But you could still see that

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so really strange. So here we go. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get into it. It's gonna get a little crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna get a little hot, and uh, just listen

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<v Speaker 2>being said, I have literally like drowned myself in this

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<v Speaker 2>the show, mainly out of curiosity. But you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is very important information, I think because most

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus' mouth. It is from Paul's mouth, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's to say, who's to say what he was

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<v Speaker 3>his word at that point, just like anybody else that

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<v Speaker 3>him for his word, right, Like, how how are you

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<v Speaker 3>to prove that that, you know, God chose him?

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't make any sense? And nobody knows that. And as

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<v Speaker 2>that's the CROs the proper term he made himself. He

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<v Speaker 2>gave himself the term apostle. Nobody gave him that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a self appointed apostle. Apostle, which is crazy

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<v Speaker 2>because Jesus, Jesus was the one that was anointing and

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<v Speaker 2>uh there was basically calling all of his followers apostles.

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<v Speaker 2>He annointed them right here you go, Paul, Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days ago, I was just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>murking a bunch of Christians. But then I got this

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<v Speaker 2>vision of Jesus and of which literally it can't be proven.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about a vision, It cannot be proven, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I mean, any one of us could say that

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus spoke to us and said this and that and

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<v Speaker 3>whatever they're practicing Christianity is not quite right. This is

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<v Speaker 3>actually the way that it needs to be done. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it needs to be done. It's like what you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, no one's gonna no one's gonna listen

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to say a big shout out. I

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of research by listening to, and the best

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<v Speaker 2>name out there that I could find. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 2>there are other people out there. I know that there are,

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<v Speaker 2>but the absolute most well spoken, well knowledgeable person that

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<v Speaker 2>I listened you talk about this topic was this dude

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<v Speaker 2>who actually electro Nick kind of have sent us videos

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<v Speaker 2>of before in the past. His name is Aaron Abke,

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<v Speaker 2>and this guy is an absolute wealth of information. Anybody

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<v Speaker 3>It is great.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually believes this is kind of crazy, but he

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<v Speaker 2>actually believes that Paul. He he he believes that Paul

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<v Speaker 2>had demons inside of him. Oh really, Yeah, it's and

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<v Speaker 2>it does make a lot of sense, but we're not

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<v Speaker 2>diving into all that today. Maybe that's a future story,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's it's very well possible that Paul had

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, of course, yeah, we'll get to it at

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<v Speaker 2>For nearly two thousand years, most people believe that they

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<v Speaker 2>were following the teachings of Jesus. But what if much

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<v Speaker 2>of what we call Christianity didn't come from Jesus at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight we're doing something rarely done in churches and almost

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<v Speaker 2>never done honestly, we're separating what Jesus actually taught from

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<v Speaker 2>what Paul later preached in his name. Okay, so Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>spoke of an inner kingdom of transformation through action, awareness

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<v Speaker 2>and alignment with God within. Paul spoke about belief, blood, atonement,

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<v Speaker 2>and salvation through faith apart from works. One taught how

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<v Speaker 2>to live, the other taught what to believe. See the

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<v Speaker 2>difference here, It's a huge difference. Due one walked with

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<v Speaker 2>disciples in the light of day, the other claimed authority

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<v Speaker 2>through a private vision. Tonight's isn't about attacking Christianity. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about tearing and it's not even about tearing down Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about asking a forbidden question, did the church follow

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher or the interpreter? Because if Jesus warned, if

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus warned us that false teachers would come after him

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<v Speaker 2>using his name while changing the message, then the most

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual thing we can do is slow down, remove the filters,

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<v Speaker 2>and go back to the one. So here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>tonight we're separating Jesus from Paul. That is the that

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it, dude, Let's see what is what?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So first off, as I said before, big shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to Aaron Abke, and I have a quote of

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<v Speaker 2>his that I just wanted to throw out there. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Aaron speaking about Paul. He goes, nobody wants anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the Jesus that you preach because he's bigoted,

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<v Speaker 2>anti gay, anti women, and pro slavery, all about punishment

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<v Speaker 2>and wrath and you got to confess him as Lord

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<v Speaker 2>and say it out loud. Nobody likes this version of

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus outside of dogmatic Christianity, m all right. So, and

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<v Speaker 2>if not all of it, is from the teachings of

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<v Speaker 2>Paul that people just attached to Jesus. And uh, I

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus didn't say that, did he Like, Oh, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to to you know, confess your sins or else you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna you know what I mean, like put your faith

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<v Speaker 3>in me, or else you're gonna go to hell. Like

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<v Speaker 3>was that something that Jesus ever actually even said?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. And and we're going to get a very

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<v Speaker 2>clear image about all of this tonight because every question

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody probably has, I guarantee you I have thought

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<v Speaker 2>about it at some point in the past two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>Like dude, And that's the it's it's it's almost a

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<v Speaker 2>blessing and a curse. I get addicted to this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to where I literally can't stop researching it. I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't enjoy a lot of things until I got it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. At least I got it

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<v Speaker 2>to where I give myself the acceptance. All right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can calm down. But even up until like an

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<v Speaker 2>hour before the show, I was still cramming information.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your cross to bear, you will.

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<v Speaker 2>So another quote that Aaron said, he said, Jesus absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>never told anybody to believe in his death and resurrection

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<v Speaker 2>in order to get to Heaven. Never told anybody that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now one might say, well, that's because he hadn't died yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry wasn't Jesus like God.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have the foresight to know. And he already knew

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<v Speaker 2>that he was going to die. He knew that his

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<v Speaker 2>boy was going to stab him in the back, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He knew that he was going to die. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Final Supper deal. And so he knew that

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<v Speaker 2>about all of this, about all of this oncoming stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so to say that, well, Jesus never said anything

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<v Speaker 2>about believing in his death and resurrection in order to

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<v Speaker 2>get to heaven because he didn't know it. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want you to ask yourself, is he God or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Is one hundred percent God?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's not forget that. Here's a quote, yeah, all knowing, Yeah, yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a quote. This is from Matthew. This is Jesus speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to go back and forth a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about you know, what was a Jesus quote, what

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<v Speaker 2>of time of this episode, we're going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to determine. I won't even have to tell you which

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<v Speaker 2>one's Jesus and which one's Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>That was good, dude, Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't even have to tell you. You'll just understand. So,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is from Jesus. This is Matthew Chapter twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>verse thirty seven. He goes, love the Lord your God

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<v Speaker 2>with all your heart and with all your soul, and

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<v Speaker 2>with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment,

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<v Speaker 2>and the second is like it, love your neighbor as yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>All the law and the prophets hang on these two commandments.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a Jesus quote. So what he's saying is

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<v Speaker 2>love God, love your neighbors, love your Yeah, love yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>and love God with all your soul in all your mind. Right, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the way. Somebody asked him, how how do

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<v Speaker 2>I get to eternal life? How do I get to heaven?

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<v Speaker 2>This was his answer. Okay, yeah, love love the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>your God with all your heart and with all your soul,

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<v Speaker 2>and with all your mind. This is the first and

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<v Speaker 2>greatest commandment. And the second is like it, love your

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor as yourself. All the law and the prophets hang

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<v Speaker 2>on these two commandments. Did he say anything about believing

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<v Speaker 2>in my death whenever I die, and proclaiming me as

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<v Speaker 3>No, dude, and you would think that would probably be

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<v Speaker 3>number one, you know, because that seems to be like

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<v Speaker 3>the main rule that you have to follow, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to get into heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems to be, you know. And as a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, most people these days, if you say

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<v Speaker 2>you're not religious, if you say you're not Christian, they

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<v Speaker 2>actually look at you and they're like, oh, it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a shame. You're going to hell. You're not you're not

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<v Speaker 2>announcing Jesus as your Lord and savior.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we haven't figured it out yet though, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we'll get there one day. As they like

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<v Speaker 2>to say, Timmy tuto'es goes, I love all Yin's guys.

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<v Speaker 2>The one is us Yin's guys is the most Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>shit I've ever heard, and I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually it's a Pittsburgh. It's not even a whole Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Pittsburgh and outskirts of Pittsburgh. Yeah, dude, Seawn knows

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<v Speaker 2>what that's like. He lived in a PA a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, such a different place.

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<v Speaker 2>I do miss it from time to time, not all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I'm sure you are getting pounded with snow

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<v Speaker 2>right now, which is I'm I do get kind of

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<v Speaker 2>jealous of snow from time to time. Because on Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Day it was eighty degrees in Louisiana. That's not cool.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not cool. Somehow it's still thirty humidity, Like what's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, there was a shitload of fogs. So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you know, you close your eyes, use your imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that like fog was the blanket of

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's another quote. This is this is Jesus again

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<v Speaker 2>from one of the main gospels, with Mark, right, this

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<v Speaker 2>is Mark, chapter one, verse fifteen. He goes, the time

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<v Speaker 2>is fulfilled and the Kingdom of God is at hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Repent and believe in the Gospel. This was another thing

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<v Speaker 2>about when somebody asked him how do I get to heaven?

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<v Speaker 2>How do I enter eternal life in heaven?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, the time is fulfilled and the Kingdom

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<v Speaker 2>of God is at hand. Repent and believe in the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you might be saying, all right, believe in the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, you know, because he was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>his laws. You know what the laws are. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what the commandments are?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>The repent actually is an interesting word because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that a lot of people understand it's actual true

433
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<v Speaker 2>etymological roots. Okay, we're going all the way back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek with this word, because this is what Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>and I was curious about what Jesus spoke at that time,

436
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<v Speaker 2>and it does turn out that he did. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 2>says it's highly likely that Jesus spoke kowaine ko i

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<v Speaker 2>n e Greek in addition to his native Aramatic, native Aramaic,

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<v Speaker 2>and liturgical Hebrew, because Greek was the common language in

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Palestine for trade, administration and interacting with gentiles, with

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<v Speaker 2>evidence in the Gospel showing interactions with Greek speakers and

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<v Speaker 2>scholars pointing to its necessity for life in Galilee. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that that was his only language, but

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<v Speaker 2>he spoke Greek. Right, So whenever Jesus said repent, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't the English word repent, it was the Greek

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<v Speaker 2>word metaanoia metaia, which literally translates to it means change.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a change of mind or thinking differently.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh said, keep that third eye open. That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he said, Look, if you're ever, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>ever sinning, you ever got anything going on in your mind,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're ever you're ever about to sin, or you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting whatever, anything sinful, Just repent. How do you repent?

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<v Speaker 3>You change your fucking mind. That's it. That's great, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple that I didn't either. So yeah, it's so. It

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<v Speaker 2>means that change. It's a change of mind or thinking differently,

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<v Speaker 2>involving a shift in understanding, attitude, and intention, leading to

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<v Speaker 2>a transformation of life. Not just regret. It signifies using

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<v Speaker 2>the mind to recognize wrong, to abhor past sins, and

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<v Speaker 2>align one's purpose with God's will, often resulting in changed actions.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. Oh that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to repent right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm constantly repenting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So here's this is something super interesting. Jesus spoke

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<v Speaker 2>that there would be false teachers. He prophesied this, that

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<v Speaker 2>there would be false teachers. Okay, and he talked about this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure he talked about in a couple in

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<v Speaker 2>more verses than just two. But I pulled up two

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<v Speaker 2>right here. The first one is from Or they're both

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<v Speaker 2>from Matthew, the Book of Matthew and it's from Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>chapter five, verses fifteen through sixteen. He goes, be aware

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<v Speaker 2>of false prophets, you will know them by their fruits.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then again in Matthew twenty four, verse five, he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>many will come in my name and deceive many.

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<v Speaker 3>Oly he's talking about Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, one hundred percent. He didn't even know Paul at

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<v Speaker 2>this time. By the way, I mean, he probably knew

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<v Speaker 2>him as Saul because he was going around. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's exactly what Paul does, though he comes

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<v Speaker 3>in through Jesus's name, like Jesus said this, dude, Holy shit,

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<v Speaker 3>that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, dude, because it gets crazier.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are a couple of Paul quotes that are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make the hair on the back of your fucking neck

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<v Speaker 2>stand up after you just heard about the false teachers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right In Galatians chapter one, verse eight, Paul says, if

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<v Speaker 2>anyone preaches another gospel, let them be a cursed Oh so,

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone preaches another gospel, you mean, the fucking gospel

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<v Speaker 2>that you're preaching on top.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Jesus's You're doing it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let them, let me, let them be cursed, which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Jesus was very against cursing. He said, you

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<v Speaker 2>should never curse. You should never curse, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a hex and he didn't say hex, but basically the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't wish ill upon anybody else. And here you

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<v Speaker 2>got Paul. He goes, hey, look, anybody preaches any other gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I get it. You knew Jesus whenever

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<v Speaker 2>he was as a man. But I knew him and

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<v Speaker 2>his fucking astral body. And he goes, let them be

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<v Speaker 2>a curse. Here's the real, big doll great here, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In First Corinthians, chapter eleven, verse one, Paul says, follow

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<v Speaker 2>me as I follow christ Oh, basically saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He's putting himself between us and Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to be the intermediary between you and Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Jesus was already enough of an intermediary.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need you, We don't need all that.

510
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<v Speaker 2>We need all these filters. Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Paul or Saul whatever you call yourself these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude. So here's the problem. The problem is is

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<v Speaker 2>that Paul preaches a gospel that Jesus never taught, never

514
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<v Speaker 2>even taught it to all of his followers, to all

515
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<v Speaker 2>of his apostles, to all of the beggars on the street,

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<v Speaker 2>send the hookers on the corner, like, never preached what

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<v Speaker 2>Paul or Jesus never preached anything about what Paul says.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna we're gonna lay it all out as

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<v Speaker 2>to what Paul actually said, but we're gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hang on. So so Paul, he also demands loyalty

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<v Speaker 2>to himself. He wants his followers to be loyal to

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<v Speaker 2>him over Jesus HM. And the most obvious one, he

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<v Speaker 2>bases his authority on a private vision.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, private right, nobody else what it said.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was on the road to Damascus.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He was traveling to Damascus, and he had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of his I guess disciples with him, uh, And they

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<v Speaker 2>were riding up on horses or donkeys, whatever the hell

530
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<v Speaker 2>he was riding on. And that's whenever he got this

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<v Speaker 2>vision of Jesus and allegedly had this whole conversation with Jesus. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so nobody else saw what he saw. But allegedly

533
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<v Speaker 2>the people that were with him, saw a bright flash

534
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<v Speaker 2>of light. That's all we got. That's the only proof

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<v Speaker 2>of all of this that we.

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<v Speaker 3>Got, right, flash of light. And this is at this time,

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<v Speaker 3>he was still going after the Christian believers, right, because

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't change his ways until after he met with

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus or mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're right. Yeah, he was persecuting Christians all the

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<v Speaker 2>way up until the day of this vision, which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Jesus was already dead by the time he

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<v Speaker 2>had this vision. This was like, I'm gonna butcher the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of years I want to say, it's probably ten

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<v Speaker 2>or fifteen years after Jesus dies h.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that time, you know, Christianity was probably on

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<v Speaker 3>the rise. I would think, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a reason why they were trying to take

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<v Speaker 3>them all out, you know. And so I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 3>because he was within that bubble, you know, of Christianity

551
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<v Speaker 3>being so powerful and this upcoming thing, and then maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he feels bad for killing people and persecuting them, and

553
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<v Speaker 3>then he's like, you know what, if you can't beat them,

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<v Speaker 3>join them type of type of thing. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as I said before, he was already going around

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<v Speaker 2>killing a bunch of them, and he was an own Pharisee.

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisees were very strict on their rules whenever it came

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<v Speaker 2>to anything spiritual. They treated their religious their religious beliefs

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<v Speaker 2>like a government chart of rules, essentially a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that the Jews do. The Jews are

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<v Speaker 2>the same way like they they they listened to all

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<v Speaker 2>of the rules that you know, the the Old Testament

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<v Speaker 2>God has laid out to them through Moses and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>But so the Pharisees, real quick, the Pharisees are just

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<v Speaker 3>like Old Testament or like, who are the Pharisees exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I believe and I'm not one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent sure I believe they were. Was it Mythriism?

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<v Speaker 3>Who was their god? Oh Cabala King might know what's up?

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<v Speaker 4>And the Pharisees were definitely the Jews that believed in

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<v Speaker 4>the Torah and everything. They were like the ones that

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<v Speaker 4>were restrict on the Torah. They were part of Judaism

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<v Speaker 4>and everything. But they were like the I guess the

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to consider them the high priests of Judaism.

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<v Speaker 4>So they followed the Torah and the books to the

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<v Speaker 4>law and everything that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>The Torah and all this, they're all related, right, some

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<v Speaker 3>in some way. Forgive my What was your question, Sean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I was just asking as far as

579
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<v Speaker 3>like who the Pharisees were, like what their god was?

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<v Speaker 3>Who who was their god? Was it a triomne god

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<v Speaker 3>or like you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was old tesimate god is what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I just typed it in. I found that here too.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they were I mean, they were Jews, so

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<v Speaker 2>they believed in Yahweh and and Moses and Abraham and

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. Right, Okay, but these were

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<v Speaker 2>the same people that Jesus was going in and saying

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<v Speaker 2>like like basically cursing the Pharisees. Right, he was entirely

589
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<v Speaker 2>against the Pharisees, which you know, Jesus was coming to

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<v Speaker 2>fulfill the Covenant and to create like a whole new

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<v Speaker 2>covenant and stuff. Anyway, all right, I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to it, but but yes, it is important to

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<v Speaker 2>know that that Paul was part of that group that

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus was condemning. Okay, and then he comes in and

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<v Speaker 2>and that I just want to say that, like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're somebody that is trying to corrupt a movement, which

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<v Speaker 2>and we know that that happens a lot nowadays, like

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<v Speaker 2>especially anybody that's into like the the conspiracy stuff, you

599
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<v Speaker 2>know that there is infiltration like crazy, whether it's people

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<v Speaker 2>or information or anything like that, it is. It's heavily infiltrated,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of the times it's hard to be

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to decipher what is true and what's

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<v Speaker 2>not m m yeah because of the infiltration. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to disrupt a group, a growing group, well

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<v Speaker 2>instead of beating them, because he already tried doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>he beat a lot of them, why not join and

607
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<v Speaker 2>poison it from within?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, here we go, I do have Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>where was I?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So uh uh uhuh so yeah, as far as all

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<v Speaker 2>of Paul's stuff goes as far as whenever he's saying,

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<v Speaker 2>follow me as I follow Christ, and if anyone preaches

615
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<v Speaker 2>another gospel, let him be accursed by Jesus's own criteria.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an absolute red flag. So Jesus showed people

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<v Speaker 2>how to become one with God, and Paul taught people

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<v Speaker 2>how to worship one.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, there's another great uh guess that I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to a whole hell of a lot. And his name

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<v Speaker 2>is doctor bart d Erman. He goes. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of quotes from him, but he goes. Jesus taught

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<v Speaker 2>that taught that the way to enter into God's kingdom

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<v Speaker 2>was by keeping God's commandments. Right, So it was by

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<v Speaker 2>keeping God's commandments. Commit yourself to God, repent, love your

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor as yourself, help those in need, take care of

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<v Speaker 2>the poor and the hungry. And if you do those things,

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<v Speaker 2>you will enter into the kingdom.

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<v Speaker 3>Makes sense, That's what Jesus taught.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing like you're not going to go to war about

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<v Speaker 2>what Jesus said, right. However, Paul, Paul taught that helping

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<v Speaker 2>others is a good thing and you should do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you, but you are not capable of being good

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<v Speaker 2>enough to satisfy God, because you are controlled by a

636
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<v Speaker 2>power of sin that forces you, forces you into an

637
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<v Speaker 2>alienation from God. And the only way to conquer sin

638
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<v Speaker 2>is by believing in the death and resurrection of Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course being baptized. You do that and then

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<v Speaker 2>you can enter into God's kingdom. Paul said that Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>had to die because the death and resurrection of Jesus

642
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<v Speaker 2>is what matters. Jesus's teachings with the Sermon on the

643
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<v Speaker 2>Mount is is uh, you know, is a perfect ethical

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<v Speaker 2>teaching about how to live. But Paul never even.

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<v Speaker 3>Mentions anything about Jesus's.

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<v Speaker 2>Teachings with the Sermon on the Mount, which is where

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Foe Man Gospels get a lot

648
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<v Speaker 2>of their information from.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He never Paul never even mentions them. And Paul says,

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<v Speaker 2>the only this is crazy. Paul says, the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>I knew among you talking about all the Christians, the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I knew among you was Christ and him crucified.

654
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<v Speaker 2>And that's the only thing that matters. Wow, wow, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>this is blood sacrifice. This is what he's worshiping. Jesus

656
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<v Speaker 2>never said anything about blood sacrifice. He was actually against sacrifice.

657
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<v Speaker 2>He goes, actually, now that I am that that I

658
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<v Speaker 2>have come here, there will be no more sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 3>So that if he.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, being God in the flesh, said that there will

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<v Speaker 2>be no more sacrifice to God, Jesus said this, why

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<v Speaker 2>do we need to believe that he was sacrificed for

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<v Speaker 2>our sins to appease God to wipe us away from

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<v Speaker 2>all of our sins. It makes no sense. Yeah, makes

665
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<v Speaker 2>no sense whatsoever. So yeah, so so yeah, big shout

666
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<v Speaker 2>out to Bart d Erman. Shout out that guy's a stud.

667
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<v Speaker 2>I have another quote here from this guy's actually awesome.

668
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<v Speaker 2>His name is the Recovering Catholic and he's on YouTube recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that Luke and Paul pa Luke plus Paul

670
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<v Speaker 2>plus Timothy make up fifty percent of the New Testament.

671
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<v Speaker 2>Luke was a disciple of Paul, and neither of them

672
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<v Speaker 2>ever met Jesus, only heard stories. Paul says that he

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<v Speaker 2>was a Pharisee and a son of a Pharisee. The

674
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<v Speaker 2>Pharisees were obsessed with laws, sin, ritual, purity, and status.

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<v Speaker 2>They were an authority figure. So then I looked this

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<v Speaker 2>up and as far as and I asked if Pharisees

677
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<v Speaker 2>believed in and practice blood sacrifices as central to Jewish warship,

678
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<v Speaker 2>and it says yes, they did believe in and did

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<v Speaker 2>practice blood sacrifices as central to Jewish warship, especially at

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<v Speaker 2>the Jerusalem Temple, seeing them as divinely ordained for atonement

681
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<v Speaker 2>and purification. Though they emphasized meticulous observance of Mosaic law,

682
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<v Speaker 2>Moses' law and purity alongside them, often contrasting with Jesus's

683
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<v Speaker 2>focus on inner righteousness over ritual. So the Pharisees were

684
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<v Speaker 2>still with the old ways, right, Obviously they were. They

685
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<v Speaker 2>were the Jews, right, So they were still with all

686
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<v Speaker 2>those old ways. Why are the old ways making their

687
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<v Speaker 2>way into the new way? Here where Jesus said we

688
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<v Speaker 2>will have no more sacrifice? Yet the only way we

689
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<v Speaker 2>can get to heaven is to believe in a sacrifice. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good way to corrupt something though from the

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<v Speaker 3>inside out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe I'm slow, maybe I don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't have enough brain cells to be able

695
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<v Speaker 2>to put two and two together here, But how could

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<v Speaker 2>one be against sacrifice and the other one? Don't even

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<v Speaker 2>get me started here we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Ye?

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<v Speaker 2>So so okay? So Paul brought all of that back

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<v Speaker 2>in a new name. Instead of freeing people from religious fear,

701
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<v Speaker 2>Paul rebranded it in Jesus's name. Paul says that the

702
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<v Speaker 2>Gospel comes from revelation, not from Jesus's earthly followers. Apossle

703
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<v Speaker 2>like James and Peter are appointed as so by Jesus,

704
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<v Speaker 2>but Paul is the one who is self appointed. Everything

705
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<v Speaker 2>that Paul says is only validated by Paul's own word.

706
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<v Speaker 2>The modern church is more Paul Lane than Christian centered.

707
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<v Speaker 2>Modern Christianity's focus on guilt, fear, and unworthiness comes from Paul,

708
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<v Speaker 2>not Jesus. The Church chose control, sin and hierarchy and obedience.

709
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<v Speaker 2>Jesus taught love your neighbor, and the kingdom of his

710
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<v Speaker 2>is the Kingdom of Heaven is within, and you are

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<v Speaker 2>the light of the world. These are stark in contrast,

712
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<v Speaker 2>totally very very different. I mean, you're literally talking about

713
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<v Speaker 2>the upside down here, which shout out the stranger things

714
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<v Speaker 2>just came out yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. Man, I'm waiting for

716
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<v Speaker 3>a good quiet time. There's a bunch of shit going on.

717
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<v Speaker 3>We're in California right now, so it's a little bit wild. Nice.

718
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<v Speaker 2>How's the weather out there, Sean.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's actually uh, it's been raining for two days

720
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<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of cold out, but it's cool. I

721
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<v Speaker 3>got to wear my jacket, you know what I mean.

722
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<v Speaker 3>I've been waiting to wear it, so I've only wore

723
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<v Speaker 3>it like once before. Now, you know, it's like seventy

724
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<v Speaker 3>five in Phoenix.

725
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.519
<v Speaker 2>So you're looking like a zaddy in that jacket.

726
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<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks, man, I appreciate that.

727
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<v Speaker 2>So all right, here we go. And and since we're

728
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<v Speaker 2>talking about all of this, and it was just a

729
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<v Speaker 2>couple of months ago that we did an episode on

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<v Speaker 2>the Cathars. You remember, the people who were persecuted and

731
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<v Speaker 2>hunted down and had a war against them because they

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<v Speaker 2>were more with the the the Nagamadi thinking right, that

733
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<v Speaker 2>Jesus taught basically how to enter into the Kingdom of

734
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<v Speaker 2>Heaven within yourself and the Gnostic way right, and the

735
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<v Speaker 2>Catholic Church didn't want nothing to do with that. Pope

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<v Speaker 2>Innocent the third was like, come on, you think you

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<v Speaker 2>can get to God by going to your inner sanctuary?

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<v Speaker 3>What is this? That's stupid? What are you thinking? That's

739
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<v Speaker 3>your problem is you thought? You know, you're thinking. You

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have thought that.

741
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<v Speaker 2>Your first problem was is that you thought? So then

742
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, would the Cathars have been hunted

743
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<v Speaker 2>down without Paul's letters? Would that whole thing have ever

744
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<v Speaker 2>happened if it wasn't for Paul. So here's a little

745
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>backstory as far as the Cathars and what all went

746
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.199
<v Speaker 2>down for anybody that doesn't remember that or maybe didn't

747
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 2>listen to that episode, but the Cathars were essentially a

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<v Speaker 2>Gnostic group in southern France, and the Catholic Church had

749
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<v Speaker 2>an issue with that because a lot of the Catholic

750
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<v Speaker 2>Church followers were deciding to change their ways into this

751
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 2>new Cathar understanding of what Jesus actually preached, because the

752
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<v Speaker 2>cath were hardcore on the Gnostic stuff, which, to be honest,

753
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<v Speaker 2>even if you listen to Jesus's words, the most gnostic, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>there is I'm not even talking about only in the

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<v Speaker 2>Nakamadi in the Bible. You just listen to what he

756
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.559
<v Speaker 2>says in the in the Bible, dude, it is gnostic.

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00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, it's the typnosis that you talked about. The

758
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Kingdom of Heaven is within you. You know, you go

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<v Speaker 3>with you go inside, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>you just you just know how you feel about certain things,

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<v Speaker 3>like things that resonate, things that don't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's if therefore thene I be single, then your whole

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<v Speaker 2>body shall be full of light. That's pretty damn gnostic,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, Yeah, dude, Yeah, So The Cathars, which

765
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<v Speaker 2>were around the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, where a decentralized

766
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<v Speaker 2>Christian movement in southern France that rejected church hierarchy and wealth.

767
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 2>They rejected blood atonement, they rejected compulsory sacraments and emphasized

768
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 2>inner purity, non violence, and direct spiritual knowing. And they

769
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<v Speaker 2>also read Jesus as a teacher of liberation, not of sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what the Cathart's believed. And it wasn't even

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<v Speaker 2>just their beliefs. They lived that fucking life, dude, This

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<v Speaker 2>was their life. They didn't just like, oh, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a sinner and I'll never be as good as Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do the best

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<v Speaker 2>I can because there was only ever one perfect one

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not him, right right, which is what you

777
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<v Speaker 2>hear out of every single Christian's mouth nowadays, even though

778
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you know damn well that if you make a mistake

779
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<v Speaker 2>and you become aware of it, if you call yourself

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00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:36.559
<v Speaker 2>any religion at all, then you should learn from your mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>not keep doing them. Because you accept that you're a

782
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<v Speaker 2>sinner and that you're never going to be perfect. That

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<v Speaker 2>is ludicrous to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, yeah, I mean I really wish Jacob was

785
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<v Speaker 3>here because I want to know, like I want to

786
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<v Speaker 3>hear like the arguments to what you're saying right now.

787
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because I know that there's something that's gonna

788
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<v Speaker 3>like try to make it, make it okay, or make

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<v Speaker 3>it better. But I can't come up with anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so you know, I did all of this research,

791
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<v Speaker 2>all of my notes were in mind that I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be having Jacob here. So everything that I

793
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<v Speaker 2>have here is backed up by receipts, and not only receipts,

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<v Speaker 2>but context, because that's what gets Jacob bricked up, which

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<v Speaker 2>I get.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's not all you hear usually you know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the apologists or whatever, they it's the context.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, what context is it that you need that's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make that okay? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like on yeah, I mean not really a whole hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot. So hold on one second, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just do something right quick. I just want to do

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<v Speaker 2>this just for the just for the short clips, the

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<v Speaker 2>ad spotlights. It's much easier to make clips, so you

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<v Speaker 2>go so a little behind the baseball anyway. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cathars were full on basically gnostic Christians, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>why Paul matters so much right here is because, first off,

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<v Speaker 2>they were far closer to Jesus's ethical, mystical message than

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<v Speaker 2>to institutional Christianity, which is why the Catholic Church had

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<v Speaker 2>such a huge problem with the Cathars in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>So why does that matter? Well, the Cathars were condemned

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<v Speaker 2>as heretics primarily because they rejected core Pauline doctrines, especially

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<v Speaker 2>salvation through belief in Christ's death, which they never they

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<v Speaker 2>never wanted to admit because they were like, look, once

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<v Speaker 2>he's dead, he's dad, I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 2>actually live out what he was trying to say in

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<v Speaker 2>real life whatever whenever he died. You know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>sad to see him go, you know, But am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to worship somebody dead on the cross? Which I

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<v Speaker 2>always thought it was a ludicrous image in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>All of Jesus's beautiful teachings out there in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>all the all the miracles and all the healings and

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<v Speaker 2>all the the amazing parables that he talked about, and

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<v Speaker 2>the one sticking image of Jesus that everybody has is

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<v Speaker 2>him literally fucking hanging on for a life on top

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<v Speaker 2>of a like on across he's he's nailed there. He

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<v Speaker 2>just got how many lashings? He was stabbed with a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking spear right and water poured out allegedly, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's more of a parable. But my point

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<v Speaker 2>is that is the lasting image that you want to

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<v Speaker 2>have of Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>M Yeah, like God.

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<v Speaker 2>Forbid somebody, somebody in their family, has somebody close to

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<v Speaker 2>them dies in a car crash. Are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a necklace that is reminiscent of that person that

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<v Speaker 2>died in a car crash, of them getting into a

838
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 2>car crash. Is that how you're going to remember them?

839
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

840
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.320
<v Speaker 2>It makes no sense now, I get it if you're

841
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 2>looking at it through Paul's eyes, where he's saying that

842
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the magic.

843
00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 3>It was cool whenever Jesus was here.

844
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>He was preaching everything and Natl the parables, and he

845
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 2>was healing and he was doing miracles and all that

846
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 2>fun jazz. But the real magic was whenever he died.

847
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, because that's when I got the reinterpreted version

848
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 3>of what he was really trying to say.

849
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, crazy, crazy, so so yeah, the Cathars were

850
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 2>condemned as heretics, primarily because they rejected core Pauline doctrines,

851
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 2>especially the salvation through belief in Christ's death, the authority

852
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 2>of church offices. They rejected that. They rejected the idea

853
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:36.480
<v Speaker 2>that Christ's blood paid a cosmic debt, which I feel like,

854
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.280
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be crazy not to believe that.

855
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 2>And they also rejected the idea that bodily resurrection, the

856
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:48.239
<v Speaker 2>idea of bodily resurrection as taught in Pauline theology. So

857
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 2>it says these doctrines do not come from Jesus directly.

858
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.639
<v Speaker 2>They come overwhelmingly from Paul's letters. So Paul had a

859
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.880
<v Speaker 2>bunch of letters. And this is where a lot of

860
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:03.079
<v Speaker 2>like oh, I can't remember in Corinthians and the Book

861
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 2>of Acts and really sprinkled all throughout the New Testament

862
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 2>is words from Paul's letters that he wrote to the church. Okay, okay,

863
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 2>and so, and a lot of them are actually heavily debated,

864
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and some people actually believe that every single letter from

865
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:28.800
<v Speaker 2>this Paul character was forged. Oh okay, talk about a

866
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:33.400
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing. It's it's allegedly forged. And actually I believe

867
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:36.760
<v Speaker 2>at least six of because I think there was thirteen

868
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 2>letters if I'm not mistaken that that Paul wrote to

869
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the church, but I believe that at least four to

870
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 2>six of them were already understood to be forgeries.

871
00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit.

872
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 2>So okay, anyhow, not a good look. So without Paul's letters,

873
00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:00.079
<v Speaker 2>there is no fixed doctrine of substitutionary atonement. The you

874
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.639
<v Speaker 2>don't need Jesus to atone for your sins, right. There

875
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 2>is no salvation by belief, which is which would be

876
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.599
<v Speaker 2>the standard to enforce all of this. And there is

877
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 2>no theological basis for calling Cathar spirituality damnable, right, because

878
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 2>none of that goes against what Jesus was teaching the Cathars.

879
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:25.400
<v Speaker 2>The Cathar's belief was none of it was damnable according

880
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:26.239
<v Speaker 2>to the words of Christ.

881
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Right. Yeah, it sounds to me like if you just

882
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.559
<v Speaker 3>did the things that Jesus was talking about, man, you'd

883
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 3>have a pretty fucking good life. Yeah, if you'd feel

884
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.719
<v Speaker 3>good about it, you wouldn't feel like you deserve hell

885
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 3>to begin with. And so why all this other shit,

886
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:40.360
<v Speaker 3>you know?

887
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, they just be out there trying

888
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 2>to teach what they don't understand you know what I mean.

889
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 2>So in other words, there is no doctrinal measuring stick

890
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.719
<v Speaker 2>to label them as heretics. There's nothing to measure it

891
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.480
<v Speaker 2>up against. Because Jesus was all, yo, just you know,

892
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>love God with all your heart and your soul, your mind,

893
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>treat your neighbor as yourself, love yourself, and keep the commandments,

894
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.599
<v Speaker 2>and and keep the law, which the law is. What

895
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>he was saying was just like which was that like love,

896
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 2>love your neighbor as yourself, and love God with all

897
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 2>your heart.

898
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

899
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't go against the Cathar beliefs, so they wouldn't

900
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.519
<v Speaker 2>have been they wouldn't have been labeled as heretics or dammable.

901
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 2>So all right, so just to cover a little bit

902
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.199
<v Speaker 2>more of this, because I really want to hammer this home,

903
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 2>because if we show what life would be if it

904
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 2>wasn't for paul we can start to actually understand the

905
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Pauline effect.

906
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, Okay, so what actually?

907
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so what actually triggered their extermination? Talking about the Cathars,

908
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>because they're like, none of them are still alive. I mean,

909
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.719
<v Speaker 2>obviously they wouldn't still be alive, but even their ancestors,

910
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 2>like they wiped them all off, dude, right, I think

911
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 2>there was only like one guy that was carrying it out. Still,

912
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:03.320
<v Speaker 2>like after all of it, and you remember that the

913
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>or the Catholics, We're telling the Cathars to convert or die,

914
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.079
<v Speaker 2>and said you can either convert or you can walk

915
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:16.280
<v Speaker 2>into this fire. This because they literally burned their whole city, dude.

916
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 2>And the Cathars were like, no, I'm I'm straight. I'm

917
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:21.280
<v Speaker 2>just gonna turn around walking to the fucking fire because

918
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I ain't listening to your.

919
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 3>Shit, right, Holy shit, dude, can you imagine? Dude?

920
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

921
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 3>So uh.

922
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 2>And this was all because of the Albigensian crusade that

923
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>took place between twelve o nine and twelve twenty nine,

924
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and it was actually justified by Rome, of course, this

925
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:45.159
<v Speaker 2>whole crusade. It was justified by Rome because Pauline ideas

926
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 2>of Orthodoxy versus the false Gospel. So they looked at

927
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the Cathars as the false Gospel because of what Paul

928
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:58.079
<v Speaker 2>was saying, not because of what Jesus was saying. It

929
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 2>was because of the Pauline obedient to authority, which, as

930
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I said earlier, that paul was all about a like

931
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 2>respecting authority. Everybody that everybody that has anything negative to

932
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>say about Christianity, anybody that's actually looked into it, they

933
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:18.280
<v Speaker 2>all point to Paul's teachings because he was anti gay,

934
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 2>he was anti slavery, he was anti or, he was

935
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 2>pro slavery, anti women, right, all these things, and so yeah,

936
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:28.519
<v Speaker 2>that's that's where a lot of that comes from.

937
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 3>So Paul.

938
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>His his concepts of unity through doctrine. So Paul was

939
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 2>basically trying to say, we can all be one giant family,

940
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.599
<v Speaker 2>we can all get along, we can all go to heaven.

941
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.280
<v Speaker 2>We just all have to believe in this and if

942
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:49.159
<v Speaker 2>you don't, it's okay to kill you, right, yep, call sport. Actually, yeah,

943
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So the Church framed the Cathars as denying the denying

944
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the saving Blood of Christ, preaching another gospel, and undermining

945
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the Body of Christ, which you know, the body of

946
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Christ is known as the Church. So they undermined the church,

947
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.360
<v Speaker 2>is what they're trying to say. So these are Paul

948
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Leane charges, right, Like, these rules come from Paul and

949
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:16.320
<v Speaker 2>nothing not Jesus at all. Jesus never said any of

950
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the shit, right, So Jesus never authorized a holy war

951
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:25.440
<v Speaker 2>against dissenters. He never authorized killing heretics, and he never

952
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 2>authorized coercion of belief, and in fact, his teachings directly

953
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 2>oppose all of that.

954
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 3>M hmm, yeah, yeah, I mean you're supposed to love

955
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:39.199
<v Speaker 3>your own vapor, you know what I mean. I'm surprised

956
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 3>love yourself is in there, you know, and they're buying it,

957
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 3>you know.

958
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.800
<v Speaker 2>So, And here's another crucial distinction is that it's not

959
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that Paul personally wanted crusaders. It's that Paul's theology created

960
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the architecture that made the crusades possible, right right, right motion,

961
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Because you're you're talking about something that was eleven hundred

962
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.280
<v Speaker 2>years or so after Paul had already died, This this

963
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:15.199
<v Speaker 2>whole appugency and crusade, right, and so obviously Paul wasn't like, yeah,

964
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have this so we can start taking motherfuckers

965
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:21.039
<v Speaker 2>out right. However, if it wasn't for Paul's teachings, there

966
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 2>would have never been any crusade because there would have

967
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 2>never been any rules to adhere to.

968
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. Okay.

969
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 2>So Pauline Christianity allows centralized authority, doctrinal boundaries, salvation as membership,

970
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 2>and punishment for theological deviation. You deviate from this shit

971
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:49.320
<v Speaker 2>can punish you. Jesus's teachings do not naturally produce inquisitions,

972
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>so you're not gonna have all these these crusades and

973
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.639
<v Speaker 2>these inquisitions. Nothing about Jesus says, hey, go and merk. Literally,

974
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:02.119
<v Speaker 2>anybody doesn't believe this, right, because actually Jesus was murked

975
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 2>for that thing. You know, Jesus was taken out because

976
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 2>he was going up against the Jews, what the Jews

977
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:11.519
<v Speaker 2>were saying, right, He was trying to come in and like, yo,

978
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 2>your your commandments are cool and everything, but fuck your Pharisees.

979
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, you guys are whole. You guys are so

980
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 2>much worried about the nitty gritty of shit. You're not

981
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to teach anybody how to be one with God, right,

982
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:28.440
<v Speaker 2>So fuck all that, all that rule based shit. And

983
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 2>they killed him for him, So that's that part. So

984
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 2>the Cathars weren't killed for rejecting Jesus. They were killed

985
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:44.440
<v Speaker 2>for rejecting Paul's version of him. So Pope Innocent the Third,

986
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:46.920
<v Speaker 2>which was the pope at the time of the Abbagensian

987
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Crusade during twelve oh eight to twelve oh nine, he

988
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:55.199
<v Speaker 2>was calling on northern nobles to eradicate Cathar heresy. He

989
00:56:55.320 --> 00:57:00.079
<v Speaker 2>commissioned this guy named arnade A Malrick, who was a

990
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:05.440
<v Speaker 2>papal legate, which is Rome's highest on site authority. Okay,

991
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Rome's highest on side authority was this guy. And this

992
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 2>name is very important and maybe you don't remember the name,

993
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 2>but you'll remember his quote. Okay, So he was. He

994
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:21.480
<v Speaker 2>was Rome's highest on site authority overseeing the campaign's religious legitimacy, discipline,

995
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and messaging. Al mar Rick did not command armies tactically

996
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 2>like a general per se, but his word carried papal authority,

997
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 2>so his word was like almost the Pope put him

998
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 2>up on his level. Essentially, was like your word is

999
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:46.320
<v Speaker 2>literally under Jesus like great under you know. And his

1000
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 2>rulings and exhortations framed the violence as God sanctioned. So

1001
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>this is what he said, Pope innocent along with our

1002
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:03.679
<v Speaker 2>no A mahal Ricks, the people legged said that anybody

1003
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 2>that went against what the Church was saying and was

1004
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 2>trying to distort any of the church's teachings, such as

1005
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:17.519
<v Speaker 2>what the Cathars did violence is God sanctioned. Wow, now

1006
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:22.199
<v Speaker 2>that is all Paul. That is only Paul. Nobody else

1007
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.280
<v Speaker 2>is saying this. Now, if you were a Jew, I

1008
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:27.079
<v Speaker 2>get it, because you had those rules for you know,

1009
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:31.199
<v Speaker 2>a couple thousand years, right, right. But these are not Jews.

1010
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.440
<v Speaker 2>These are the new Jews. These are the excommunicated Jews

1011
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:40.639
<v Speaker 2>who found Jesus, right yeh. And so yeah, that's what

1012
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 2>was going on there. So when soldiers reportedly this is

1013
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:47.679
<v Speaker 2>the quote. So when soldiers reportedly asked how to distinguish

1014
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Cathars from Catholics, how do you know which ones?

1015
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:51.159
<v Speaker 3>Which?

1016
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 2>They all dressed the same? Right, It's not like the

1017
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Cathars are march around in uniforms, just regular everyday people.

1018
00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1019
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Almaric says kill them all, for the Lord knows

1020
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 2>those who are his. Wow, which is funny. It is

1021
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.360
<v Speaker 2>actually a hilarious quote that is gonna bring all of

1022
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:15.159
<v Speaker 2>this full circle. And I'm happy I went down this

1023
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:22.840
<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole. Yeah, Amalric was paraphrasing the Second Epistle of Timothy,

1024
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.320
<v Speaker 2>chapter two, verses nineteen. Now, as I said earlier, Timothy

1025
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 2>was a disciple of fucking Paul. Okay, So this guy

1026
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.480
<v Speaker 2>who was saying kill them all, for the Lord knows

1027
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 2>those who are his, this guy is quoting Timothy, who

1028
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:46.760
<v Speaker 2>learned from Paul whenever. In the Epistle to Timothy, chapter two,

1029
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.599
<v Speaker 2>verse nineteen, it says that the Lord knows those who

1030
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:55.880
<v Speaker 2>are his. Huh, that's the quote that he was paraphrasing from. Wow,

1031
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 2>that is what he was saying. So isn't it just

1032
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:02.239
<v Speaker 2>funny how it came full circle? But literally they are

1033
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:07.119
<v Speaker 2>they are punishing those who go against Paul's teachings essentially,

1034
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:11.079
<v Speaker 2>uh huh. And and how they know which ones to kill?

1035
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 2>They are mentioning a Paul quote, right, It's just crazy.

1036
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 2>So Timothy, Timothy is Paul's direct disciple, right under him,

1037
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 2>right along with Luke. Paul calls him my true child

1038
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 2>in faith. Paul called Timothy my true child in faith.

1039
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

1040
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Timothy's authority comes entirely from Paul. Everything that Timothy said,

1041
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:41.800
<v Speaker 2>everything that Timothy knows. Timothy doesn't even know what his

1042
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 2>fucking name is without Paul calling him Timothy.

1043
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, And Paul's authority was self appointed, Yeah, by a vision.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we dealing with here, dude? It's all gazy

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<v Speaker 3>who GOTSI?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is kind of funny because and this is another

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01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 2>thing that Aaron Abke likes to bring up, by the way,

1048
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<v Speaker 2>is that for he because he's super into the near

1049
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:10.519
<v Speaker 2>death experiences like we are, right, and Aaron Abke goes, well,

1050
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:14.159
<v Speaker 2>every time you hear about somebody having a near death

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01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:18.920
<v Speaker 2>experience of Jesus or about Jesus, it is always the

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus version. It's never the Pall version.

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<v Speaker 3>Right of course, of course.

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01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Right just coming on to scene like a big ball

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01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:29.400
<v Speaker 2>of lights, a big ball of love. They come together

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01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:33.159
<v Speaker 2>and almost form one unit. Right, you think Jesus is

1057
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 2>is like standing at the door of your near death

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01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 2>experience saying, well, you're gay.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know, super judgy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know. He's all Wait a second. I heard

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01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 2>back on November thirteenth at five twenty seven pm with

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight seconds. He goes, I remember you denouncing my torture.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you denouncing I sacrifice. You said that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't believe in that. So I'm sorry. I'm sending you

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<v Speaker 2>to hell, even if it's only for a couple of minutes.

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01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 2>You just need to know what the fuck it's like

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<v Speaker 2>so you can turn your shit around.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you never see that, actually never, never, you would

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01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.320
<v Speaker 3>think that you you would see more of that though

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<v Speaker 3>they're like there, definitely would be, especially the people the

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<v Speaker 3>followers that the believers of the the Paul version of

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01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:24.599
<v Speaker 3>of all of this. You know, you think you'd see

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<v Speaker 3>more versions of Jesus kind of being super judgmental and

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<v Speaker 3>and actually putting you in like a a hellish place. Yeah,

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01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.760
<v Speaker 3>you would be, because most people of that belief already

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01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 3>know that they are not worthy of heaven, you know,

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01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 3>like that's kind of just ingrained in their in their mind.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they were born that way, and so they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're definitely not worthy of of heaven and being there

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<v Speaker 3>with Him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, Not only are they not worthy of being in heaven,

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<v Speaker 2>they're taught to fear God.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Fear God a separating type of thing, you know,

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01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.920
<v Speaker 3>that's put that's reading you from God if nothing else

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01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 3>like fear, you know what I mean? Like that makes

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01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 3>no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only are you unworthy of God's love because you

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01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 2>are such a filthy sinner as as they said, And

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, no, this has to be an Old Testament

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01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 2>quote where basically it says that God sees us as

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01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:21.639
<v Speaker 2>unclean rags. Uh huh, Yeah, But I I don't know, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Just all of this shit, It just it just it's

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01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 2>it's baffling to me that people don't like see it logically,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get it. You're talking about a literally

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01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:37.320
<v Speaker 2>enlightened individual. It is hard to grasp the concept of enlightenment, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to grasp the concept of the doubt. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to grasp the concept of what God is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to grasp grasp the concept of what it means

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<v Speaker 2>to be alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:48.480
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't mean that you need to go around

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01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:51.960
<v Speaker 2>just making up rules and making and enforcing those rules

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01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 2>and making people believe in them, and then if they

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01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.880
<v Speaker 2>don't believe in them, scaring the shit out of them

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<v Speaker 2>into believing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, and people or are more than willing to

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01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:04.000
<v Speaker 3>believe in this shit, you know what I mean. Like,

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01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.119
<v Speaker 3>I understand it if you are looking at it from

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01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 3>the Jesus point of view type stuff. You know that

1110
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 3>his teachings and things like that. But when you add

1111
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 3>all this extra shit as far as like oh, you know,

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01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 3>gay people going straight to hell, you got no chance,

1113
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:18.639
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. You don't have a choice

1114
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.320
<v Speaker 3>in who you love, you know. It's like, fuck, dude,

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01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.280
<v Speaker 3>which is all Paul living in fear now.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all Paul. You know, so I want to

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01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 2>get over to the to the messages here with the

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<v Speaker 2>one here on it's not Wonder Wizday. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>just Live Show Friday. I can't think of something there.

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<v Speaker 2>You go fun on the spot, but we'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you want to be a part

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01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:44.679
<v Speaker 2>of these kind of conversations and the two come debate

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<v Speaker 2>the battle as I would like to say, I mean,

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01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.400
<v Speaker 2>we are going out on the warfront. Is what's going

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01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:54.079
<v Speaker 2>to happen whenever Jacob comes and tries to debate me

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01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.840
<v Speaker 2>on this kind of stuff, and I will turn it

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01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 2>into a heavyweight HBO bout, dude, And I'm telling you

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01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:04.719
<v Speaker 2>it's going to get crazy. I was actually I was

1129
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 2>actually playing around. I'm not even gonna give it away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be awesome.

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01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:10.039
<v Speaker 3>I'll just sit back, dude for that one.

1132
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:11.400
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, But if you want to

1133
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:13.519
<v Speaker 2>be a part of that conversation, then come over to

1134
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.239
<v Speaker 2>patreon dot com slash metamistics that that link is in

1135
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.679
<v Speaker 2>the in the show notes about down below, and if

1136
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.119
<v Speaker 2>you sign up for the Wonder Wednesday tier, it's eight

1137
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:23.320
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight a month. And it's it's the best way

1138
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:24.639
<v Speaker 2>to be able to support the show. So if you

1139
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 2>love the show, you appreciate the uh, the the messages

1140
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.360
<v Speaker 2>and insight and maybe you just like maybe you just

1141
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:34.639
<v Speaker 2>think we're you know, funny or whatever that whatever, however

1142
01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:36.679
<v Speaker 2>you like the show, we appreciate it. That's the best

1143
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 2>way to be able to do it. There's several different

1144
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:40.119
<v Speaker 2>tiers over there, but if you do sign up for

1145
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that wonder Winesday, you'll be able to join us every

1146
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Wednesday night for the live show typically Wednesday nights, and

1147
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:48.599
<v Speaker 2>all of those start at nine pm Central on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best way to end your hump days, what

1149
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:54.440
<v Speaker 2>we like to say, and so and also there's it's

1150
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 2>completely commercial free. You get all the video. You'll be

1151
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.079
<v Speaker 2>able to slide into our dms. Maybe you have a

1152
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:01.639
<v Speaker 2>specific question for Sean or I. Maybe you have a

1153
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:04.440
<v Speaker 2>suggestion for somebody to come on the show, or a

1154
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:07.719
<v Speaker 2>suggestion for a show topic. Even we always listen to

1155
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 2>those first. So yeah, we would really appreciate if you

1156
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.159
<v Speaker 2>guys came and supported us over there, and thank you.

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01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:17.599
<v Speaker 3>Also is if you have an experience or something like that,

1158
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:19.440
<v Speaker 3>like share that with us. If you're if you're willing

1159
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:20.679
<v Speaker 3>to like, that's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah. How many times have we heard like

1161
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:28.960
<v Speaker 2>an alien experience or a near death experience or something

1162
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:29.320
<v Speaker 2>like that.

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01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're only one person, you know, where we

1164
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 3>can only have our experience, So if we could hear

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01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:36.119
<v Speaker 3>from you guys, that'd be great.

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01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:41.920
<v Speaker 2>That can be only one So all right, So, Dougie said,

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01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:44.440
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about reminds me of the nice Scene

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01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:48.320
<v Speaker 2>creed we recite in the Greek Orthodox Church multiple times,

1169
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:53.199
<v Speaker 2>once in Greek and English. Kabala King says, you speak

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<v Speaker 2>the blasphemy JK. Preach, brother, preach.

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01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:00.199
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Dougie said, uh shared a gift of the Confessions of Faith,

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01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:07.159
<v Speaker 2>and I'll read it, you know, just for the sake.

1174
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:10.519
<v Speaker 2>But it says, I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, UH,

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01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.280
<v Speaker 2>maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible

1176
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and invisible, and in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son

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01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:20.800
<v Speaker 2>of God, the only Begotten UH, the only begotten begotten

1178
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:24.199
<v Speaker 2>of the Father before all ages, light of the Light,

1179
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:28.519
<v Speaker 2>true God, of the True God, UH, begotten, not made. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the niceene creed I believe that you

1181
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.840
<v Speaker 2>were talking about, Dougie, I bet you that was paul inspired.

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01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 2>So I throw that one out there. Nothing against it,

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01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, but it's a very Pauline way of looking

1184
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.480
<v Speaker 2>at it. The white boy Wizard said, I'm late. What's up? Boys?

1185
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Fucking love all y'all? Whitey Wizard, Yeah, White boy Wizard said,

1186
01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Jews wrote the Bible, They created Islam. Everything they've ever

1187
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 2>done is to get us to the point, to this

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01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:59.679
<v Speaker 2>point in time so they can fulfill their stupid fucking

1189
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:04.239
<v Speaker 2>prophet season. Kill all the gomm that's a take. That's

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01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:08.239
<v Speaker 2>a hot take, Dougie said, while I'm eating my holiday

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01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:15.199
<v Speaker 2>ham leftovers, fulfilling their prophecies. Jesus enjoy uh said, pretty

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01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:17.640
<v Speaker 2>fucking gnarly. They killed the people with the proper spiritual

1193
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:22.079
<v Speaker 2>understanding and gave us gay ass religion. What a bunch

1194
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:28.680
<v Speaker 2>of bags mmm Walmart bags just flopping in the wind,

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01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, said the white boy. The white boy fuck me.

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01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 2>The Gnostics had it right. Spirit animals here.

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01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Too, what up?

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01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Spirit animal? The conspiracy platypus tell people's Samuel.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to buy you. I had to buy the Patreon.

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01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:51.159
<v Speaker 5>I missed my Jonathan, I miss you Bob. I had

1201
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:52.359
<v Speaker 5>to get my dose at Jovi.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss you too. I miss you too, Samuel. Well,

1203
01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:59.039
<v Speaker 2>look yeah, I'm not gonna be missing any more live shows.

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01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.680
<v Speaker 2>That's just the Holidays has been throwing all this, all

1205
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:04.920
<v Speaker 2>these things through through a loop big time. But we're uh,

1206
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:06.319
<v Speaker 2>we're getting back on track here.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>I got good news, Bubba, you all right, I am

1209
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:12.920
<v Speaker 6>getting better.

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01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:15.439
<v Speaker 5>Well at the point now they don't have to use

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<v Speaker 5>the lasers, so there's no more burning my kidney and

1212
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:21.239
<v Speaker 5>everything because the laser, when they use a laser, they

1213
01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:24.239
<v Speaker 5>bust up the stone and everything. And they actually gave

1214
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.520
<v Speaker 5>me a good bad men of scoring. But my kidney

1215
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 5>should get it won't ever get one hundred percent back,

1216
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.279
<v Speaker 5>but it should get damn close.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have it set up.

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01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Uh, I actually set up a goal you inspired me

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01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.039
<v Speaker 5>by by twenty twenty. I'm giving myself a year, so

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty seven, by January first, I will have I

1222
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:47.600
<v Speaker 5>will be able to bench to twenty five.

1223
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:49.680
<v Speaker 3>There you go, damn let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>And I want and keep in mind, I'm like one

1225
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.079
<v Speaker 5>hundred and fifty pounds, so I'm gonna try to go

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01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.119
<v Speaker 5>seventy five over my Yeah, I'd want to say its

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<v Speaker 5>same five.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you'll be able to bench old Dad bought

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01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.640
<v Speaker 2>over here, because that's about how much I weigh right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Yay.

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01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I miss you too, Bud. And uh, that's awesome. I'm

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01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.159
<v Speaker 2>happy that you're that you're healing up. Praise Jesus.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, amen, Sean, I finally get to see what you

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01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 6>look like.

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<v Speaker 3>Dog. This is awesome here, I am man. I hope

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01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.199
<v Speaker 3>you're not disappointed. I know I am.

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01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.760
<v Speaker 6>You have every much as the dwarf and hobbit. I

1238
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.760
<v Speaker 6>I imagine I enjoyed it.

1239
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that. Dude. It's good to see you because.

1240
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:36.279
<v Speaker 6>You got the camp find you got.

1241
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Ye, That's where I'm at. This is just my house.

1242
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sean is every bit of the sexy beast that

1243
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 2>you think that he is.

1244
01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Appreciate that ship maybe girl, maybe girl?

1245
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:57.039
<v Speaker 2>What do you say, Sam?

1246
01:10:57.640 --> 01:10:58.560
<v Speaker 6>Are you a lumber jet?

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01:10:59.640 --> 01:10:59.720
<v Speaker 5>No?

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01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:04.920
<v Speaker 3>No, no, not at all, just as sad Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just as.

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<v Speaker 2>Shop that would Uh yeah, the Big Grumbowski was actually

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be here tonight. I sent him an invite.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we just did both did an episode, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>astually about to hop out. I just wanted to hop

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<v Speaker 5>in and tell everybody I love y'all, and God bless you.

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01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you're feeling better.

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<v Speaker 2>Good seeing you.

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<v Speaker 5>But you don't commit too much blasphemy. I'm multi playing that. God,

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01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:32.359
<v Speaker 5>don't smite you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you'll try.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we're just trying to preach Jesus's gospel, not Paul's brother.

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<v Speaker 6>I understand, but hey, just always know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Congratulations you're doing church, whether or two and more gathering

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<v Speaker 5>my name.

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<v Speaker 2>He shall be there, sister. You know, love you, Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>Love you, Bubble. That's the spirit animal. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>listened to a cult member live show, Sam has never missed.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he. I think he did miss one live show,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was because he was like unconscious in a

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<v Speaker 2>hospital bed and then he woke up to like talking

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<v Speaker 2>to a nurse and ended up getting her phone number.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Sam, how.

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01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Just a stud moffoot?

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see. Uh, Timmy Tuto said, thank God, my

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<v Speaker 2>name is Timmy whoa close call?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nothing wrong with it.

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01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:30.359
<v Speaker 2>It's just, you know, it's not exactly Jesus's words, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>White boy Wizard said, fabulous, fucking Friday said funny looking,

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01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 2>not just kidding. Gorgeous baby girl.

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<v Speaker 3>She.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I told you all my UFO stories. Don't

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01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.399
<v Speaker 2>think I've told you about my heroin overdose and meeting

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01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:54.279
<v Speaker 2>the Creator. I don't I remember hearing something similar to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you ever went in depth.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see, Luisa. I believe is zoom User said

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<v Speaker 2>as I, as I have talked to Jonathan a lot before.

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01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Christianity is such a large spectrum, and even within the

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01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 2>same denomination, people have such different perspectives as to what

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<v Speaker 2>they truly believe. My perspective is that regardless of who

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<v Speaker 2>you are, and especially your sexuality, I believe we should

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<v Speaker 2>love thy neighbor as yourself, regardless of who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely disagree with the with the vision of all

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01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Christians being judgmental, because that's not who God wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>Us to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff, good stuff speared animal came behind that and said,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad got me an ounce for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>So Christmas. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The Kabala King says this definitely confirms the Gnostic and

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Gnostic theology, which we can get into briefly after

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<v Speaker 2>the episode. My dude, Yeah, that's uh, that's we've covered

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01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:55.159
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of it anyway, I mean, we covered

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<v Speaker 2>the Gospel of Thomas. We covered the the the Lost

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01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Gospel of q which was great, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that was from the Gospel of Thomas, because we whenever

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<v Speaker 2>we were reading the Gospel of Thomas, there seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be like a lot of overlay with the Lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Gospel of Oh yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>So speaking of that, I thought, you know what, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into some of the stories here, because if Paul

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<v Speaker 2>is right, then you absolutely must believe that Jesus died

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<v Speaker 2>on the cross for your sins in order to be

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<v Speaker 2>sent to heaven. That is the only way to be

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01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:34.560
<v Speaker 2>a Christian. If that is true, then what Jesus says

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<v Speaker 2>shortly would align with that. So so I thought, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go into what Jesus actually said and some of

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01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:46.600
<v Speaker 2>his parables. So I have a couple of great parables

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<v Speaker 2>that almost everybody knows and maybe you don't know the

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01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:51.359
<v Speaker 2>name of it, but you probably heard the story in

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01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the past, especially if you're a Christian. So there is

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<v Speaker 2>the parable of the Good Samaritan. If anybody's ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of this, this is the parable of the Good Samaritan.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what is this Luke Chapter ten, verse twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five onward.

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<v Speaker 3>So it says.

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<v Speaker 2>On one occasion, an expert in the law stood up

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<v Speaker 2>to test Jesus teacher. He asked, what must I do

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<v Speaker 2>to inherit eternal life? Jesus goes, what is written in

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<v Speaker 2>the law. How do you read it? He answered? This

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<v Speaker 2>is Jesus answering, love the Lord your God with all

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<v Speaker 2>your heart, and with all your soul, and with all

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01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.560
<v Speaker 2>your strength, and with all your mind, and love your

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors as yourself. So how do you inherit eternal life?

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<v Speaker 2>That's his answer, right, Jesus replied, Oh no, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that was saying it. I'm sorry, I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>mixed up because of this. But so this was an

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<v Speaker 2>expert in the law, and Jesus goes, you have answered correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this and you will live. But he wanted to

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01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:57.119
<v Speaker 2>justify himself, so Jesus, so he asked Jesus, and who

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01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:01.159
<v Speaker 2>is my neighbor? In reply, Jesus said, a man was

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01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:04.039
<v Speaker 2>going down from Jerusalem to Jericho when he was attacked

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01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:06.960
<v Speaker 2>by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him,

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01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened

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<v Speaker 2>to be going down that same road, and when he

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<v Speaker 2>saw the man he passed by on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>So too a levite when he came to the place

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<v Speaker 2>and saw him pass by on the other side. But

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<v Speaker 2>a samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he saw him, he took pity on him.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil,

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01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:34.079
<v Speaker 2>pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man

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<v Speaker 2>on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and

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<v Speaker 2>took care of him. The next day he went out.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day he took out to dinari, which is

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01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:45.840
<v Speaker 2>like their money, and gave them to the innkeeper. And

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<v Speaker 2>he goes look after him, he said, And when I return,

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<v Speaker 2>I will reimburse you for any extra expenses you may have.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Jesus goes, which of these three people so

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<v Speaker 2>you had the what was it? A priest that passed

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<v Speaker 2>by the guy that was dying on the road, a

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<v Speaker 2>levite that passed by the guy that was dying on

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<v Speaker 2>the road, and just a good samaritan that went and

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<v Speaker 2>helped this guy and pack it, bandaged him up and

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<v Speaker 2>put him in a hotel and helped them live. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus goes, which of these three do you think was

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<v Speaker 2>a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands

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<v Speaker 2>of robbers. Uh, the expert in law replied, the one

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<v Speaker 2>who had mercy on him, Jesus told him go and

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<v Speaker 2>do likewise, there you go. That's how you get into heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he's saying, right, just be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm yep, some reason it's not enough, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's weird because I read that whole thing and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear anything about Jesus saying that, like, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to believe that I sacrificed myself essentially to appease

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01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:53.600
<v Speaker 2>myself for all of your sins, right, So that's kind

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01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.640
<v Speaker 2>of strange. Dougie, go right ahead, sir, you have a question.

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<v Speaker 7>I like languages, and I had been watching this video

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01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:07.760
<v Speaker 7>about modern Hebrew, and there's a ethnic group in Israel

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<v Speaker 7>called the Samaritans, which is where the people of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 7>That's actually an ethnic group, the Samaritan, But in our

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<v Speaker 7>language we also use the Samaritan as like someone that

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01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:21.520
<v Speaker 7>does good deeds because of that biblical story. But their

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<v Speaker 7>religion's pretty interesting. They're actually very similar to Jewish, but

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01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:31.880
<v Speaker 7>they call their leaders priests and they speak like a

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01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:36.159
<v Speaker 7>different dialectic Hebrew because now modern Hebrew has been reconstructed

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<v Speaker 7>and revived. So if you ever get a chance to

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<v Speaker 7>deep dive into the Samaritan people, they still exist today

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01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:44.840
<v Speaker 7>in Israel. It's pretty interesting. And they never left. So

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<v Speaker 7>like how the Ashkenazi Jews left and went to Europe

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<v Speaker 7>and the Shephardic Jews Spain and so on, this group

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<v Speaker 7>of Jewish people stayed and then they kind of diverged

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<v Speaker 7>and they have different traditions than contemporary Judaism.

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<v Speaker 2>That actually makes sense because you never hear of a

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<v Speaker 2>bad Samaritan, you know, it's always a good Samaritan.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Yeah, okay, that makes sense. And it was capitalized

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<v Speaker 2>with an S, so I figured it was a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people who were called the Samaritans. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. Kabala King, go ahead, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just so crazy about what the court you

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01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:24.039
<v Speaker 4>just said about Jesus right now. My son asked me

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<v Speaker 4>the other day, he's nine, He was like, Dan, how

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01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:26.800
<v Speaker 4>do you get into heaven?

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01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:27.239
<v Speaker 3>This? And that.

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01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:29.920
<v Speaker 4>He was like his grandma going to go to heaven,

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01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.960
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, well, technically with the if you're

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01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:35.319
<v Speaker 4>a Christian, well Grandma's not going to go to heaven

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01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:39.920
<v Speaker 4>because she's a Catholic. You're a good, nice, little sweet, amazing,

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01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:44.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm awesome. Grandma's technically not going to go to heaven

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01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:48.840
<v Speaker 4>based on what family believes in. But guess what did

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01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:53.880
<v Speaker 4>you know? Then some crazy murderer and rapist that repents

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01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:57.319
<v Speaker 4>and believes in Jesus's death right before he does gets

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01:19:57.319 --> 01:19:59.000
<v Speaker 4>to go to heaven. But now you're a grandma because

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01:19:59.079 --> 01:19:59.880
<v Speaker 4>she's a Catholic.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, how ridiculous that even.

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01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Sounds exactly exactly so he's barely ning, but I'm not.

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01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:09.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm not quite watching anything for him right now. Tell

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01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:11.720
<v Speaker 4>them everything that I know. But if you think about

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01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:13.760
<v Speaker 4>it like that doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make any sense. And a lot of this,

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01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Kingdom of Heaven is within, which means

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01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.880
<v Speaker 2>we have access to it. And if we if we

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<v Speaker 2>have access to the Kingdom of Heaven, which is the

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01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>k which is God's Kingdom, which is to say that

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01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.359
<v Speaker 2>God is within each and every one of us. If

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<v Speaker 2>you went into your inner sanctum, into your inner temple,

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01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and meditated and really try to connect with God, where

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<v Speaker 2>in there would you be given such amazing information of

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<v Speaker 2>saying even a pedophile who literally did all of the

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01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:50.079
<v Speaker 2>worst things up until moments before his death. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>he says that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior

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01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:54.920
<v Speaker 2>because he died for all of our sins, for all

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01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:58.600
<v Speaker 2>of humanity, you would never come to the conclusion that

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<v Speaker 2>that guy's going to heaven just because he announced that

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01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:02.560
<v Speaker 2>moment before dying, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, according to Paul, it wasn't about how how

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01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Jesus lived, you know what I mean, It was how

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01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:09.880
<v Speaker 3>he died, you know what I mean. That seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be the theme.

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01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all they care about.

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, Doug, it sounds like you're referring to the

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01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:19.079
<v Speaker 7>pope's pedophiles going to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically. Well, and and the thing is with with

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01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.000
<v Speaker 2>all the popes and the priests, you know, they don't

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01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.439
<v Speaker 2>even go to jail. They just get sent to another

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01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:29.880
<v Speaker 2>church where nobody's ever heard their name, you know, which

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01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>is Yeah, that's that's crazy to me. That is just

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01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:38.800
<v Speaker 2>absolute nonsense. But anyway, Timmy Tuto says, nice exit, Jonathan, Yeah,

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01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:43.239
<v Speaker 2>sorry about that. The the the heavens above just started

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01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:47.760
<v Speaker 2>rolling up above my head and I was like, well,

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01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm being judged. Right now. Yeah, Dougie said,

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite Christian movie is The Kingpin. The Bible is

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01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:01.920
<v Speaker 2>against not forgiving. Kingpin was such a classic movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Whaty Harrelson, Oh yes, oh god, my favorite.

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01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Classic He goes brother Kine. You know what it says

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01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>in the Bible about not forgiving people. Yeah, Dougie said,

1457
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.039
<v Speaker 2>if we all wear nikes and drink the kool aid,

1458
01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:22.239
<v Speaker 2>we will get to the kingdom. Who's with me, Jesus?

1459
01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:26.159
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get back to it. So, yeah, that

1460
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:30.239
<v Speaker 2>was the parable of the Good Samaritan. And you're going

1461
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to start to see you can start to see a

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01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 2>trend here.

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01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1464
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:37.199
<v Speaker 2>So I have a bunch of things that I have here.

1465
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:42.840
<v Speaker 2>So I in my initial searchings for was Paul really

1466
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:46.880
<v Speaker 2>in conflict with Jesus's teachings? And I searched it up

1467
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Jesus versus Paul teachings. It says, uh, why are Paul's

1468
01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:54.520
<v Speaker 2>teachings different from Jesus? Says. Jesus's message in a nutshell

1469
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:59.319
<v Speaker 2>was to gain salvation with God, was to repent, be forgiven,

1470
01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:03.479
<v Speaker 2>and turn your turn your lives around now right, not

1471
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:07.239
<v Speaker 2>not once you die in heaven. Paul's message was to

1472
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>gain uh. Paul's message to gain salvation was to believe

1473
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:15.000
<v Speaker 2>in the death and resurrection of Jesus. That's how you

1474
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.199
<v Speaker 2>get into heaven. You's got to believe that part.

1475
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. That's it.

1476
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:21.560
<v Speaker 2>So God needed someone to pay with blood, and that

1477
01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:26.520
<v Speaker 2>is what Jesus did, according to Paul. Wow, because God

1478
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:27.520
<v Speaker 2>lust for blood.

1479
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm. Of course, you know, I means that makes sense.

1480
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean definitely Old Testament God was about that, you know.

1481
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:40.600
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, yeah, they were definitely about that. So all right,

1482
01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:43.680
<v Speaker 2>here's a here's a good one. You've heard of the

1483
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:48.279
<v Speaker 2>rich and the Kingdom of God, right, so this one goes.

1484
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Just then, a man came up to Jesus and asked, teacher,

1485
01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>what good? What good thing must I do to get

1486
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:58.439
<v Speaker 2>eternal life? Basically eternal life in heaven? Right, Jesus goes,

1487
01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>why do you ask me about what is good? There

1488
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:04.600
<v Speaker 2>is only one. There is only one who is good.

1489
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:08.159
<v Speaker 2>If you want to enter life, keep the commandments? Which

1490
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:11.600
<v Speaker 2>ones he inquired? Jesus replied, You shall not murder, you

1491
01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:14.079
<v Speaker 2>shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall

1492
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:17.119
<v Speaker 2>not give false testimony. You should honor your mother and

1493
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.239
<v Speaker 2>father and love your neighbor as yourself.

1494
01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:21.600
<v Speaker 3>That's how.

1495
01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:25.039
<v Speaker 2>That's how he's saying it right here, right, it makes sense.

1496
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:25.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1497
01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:28.319
<v Speaker 2>The young man goes, well, all these I have kept,

1498
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.920
<v Speaker 2>so what do I still lack? Jesus answered, if you

1499
01:24:31.960 --> 01:24:35.199
<v Speaker 2>want to be perfect, go sell your possessions and give

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01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:37.399
<v Speaker 2>to the poor, and you will you will have treasure

1501
01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>in heaven. Then come follow me. When the young man

1502
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.000
<v Speaker 2>heard this, he went away sad because he had great wealth.

1503
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Then Jesus said to his disciples, truly, I tell you

1504
01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>it is hard for someone who is rich to enter

1505
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:52.399
<v Speaker 2>the Kingdom of Heaven. Again, I tell you is it

1506
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>is easier for a camel to go through the eye

1507
01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>of a needle than for someone who is rich to

1508
01:24:56.880 --> 01:25:00.479
<v Speaker 2>enter the Kingdom of God. When the disciples heard, they

1509
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:04.319
<v Speaker 2>were greatly astonished and asked, who then can be saved.

1510
01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Jesus looked at them and said, with man, this is impossible.

1511
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:12.039
<v Speaker 2>But with all but with God, all things are possible.

1512
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Peter then answered him, we have we have left everything

1513
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to follow you will there? What then will there be

1514
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:23.039
<v Speaker 2>for us? Jesus said again, he goes, truly, I tell you,

1515
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:25.560
<v Speaker 2>at the renewal of all things, When the son of

1516
01:25:25.640 --> 01:25:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Man sits on his glorious throne. You who have followed

1517
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>me will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes,

1518
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.760
<v Speaker 2>the tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses

1519
01:25:34.840 --> 01:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>or brothers or sisters, or father or mother or wife,

1520
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:40.199
<v Speaker 2>or children or fields for my sake will receive a

1521
01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:44.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. But

1522
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:46.159
<v Speaker 2>many who are first will be last, and many who

1523
01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:48.840
<v Speaker 2>are last will be first. That whole conversation, right, so

1524
01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>nothing you can really not get down with there, Like

1525
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:56.439
<v Speaker 2>he was saying basically, to follow him, to preach the

1526
01:25:56.479 --> 01:26:00.199
<v Speaker 2>good news, right like, to preach the good word, and

1527
01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to try and wake people up. He goes, Look, you

1528
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna you're gonna be much better off in heaven if

1529
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>you just come and like help me wake as many

1530
01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:10.079
<v Speaker 2>motherfuckers up as I possibly can, right, Like.

1531
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:12.479
<v Speaker 3>To get rid of all your possessions and get rid

1532
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:14.760
<v Speaker 3>of all of your attachments, which is another thing I

1533
01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>can get down with.

1534
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Which, by the way, that's what a lot of Buddhists

1535
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>were doing. The early Buddhists were doing that as well.

1536
01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:24.159
<v Speaker 2>That's that's something that Buddha himself taught. Buddha himself taught like, look,

1537
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>because Buddha was like spoiled rotten. He'd never seen sin,

1538
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:30.359
<v Speaker 2>he had never seen sickness, he'd never seen death, he'd

1539
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>never even seen unhappy. Right, his parents kept him from

1540
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>all that. And then Jesus or Buddha was you know,

1541
01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:39.520
<v Speaker 2>walking down the road and saw like a poor man

1542
01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:41.119
<v Speaker 2>or a sick man or something like that, and he

1543
01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>was like, what the fuck is this? Right, he changed

1544
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>his entire ways. It caused an enlightenment inside of him

1545
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:51.279
<v Speaker 2>whenever he experienced that, right, And uh So, basically like,

1546
01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:53.199
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm trying to say, is is that a

1547
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:57.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of these enlightenment teachers are basically saying the same thing.

1548
01:26:58.239 --> 01:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>M hm.

1549
01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:00.119
<v Speaker 2>And that's how you get to the nitty gritty of

1550
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it.

1551
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, dude. And it just resonates, you know, when

1552
01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:06.239
<v Speaker 3>when Jesus was talking about the things that you should

1553
01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:08.239
<v Speaker 3>and shouldn't do, it's like, yeah, I mean I think

1554
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:10.439
<v Speaker 3>most of us could agree with that. I think all

1555
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:12.319
<v Speaker 3>of us here, of course, you know, would agree with that.

1556
01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:17.159
<v Speaker 2>It just makes sense for sure, for sure. So now

1557
01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I have the parable of the Lost Sun. Now I

1558
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't I'm gonnaven real with you. I'd never heard

1559
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>this story until Jacob told me one day back when

1560
01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>we were still on the Cult of Conspiracy. We were

1561
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>inside of Christie's studio. I remember it like it was yesterday.

1562
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was after a long day of shooting.

1563
01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:38.920
<v Speaker 2>We used to go into Christie's studio and bang out

1564
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:41.119
<v Speaker 2>three or four episodes in one day. It was crazy

1565
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:44.319
<v Speaker 2>because he was still working, and so we wanted to

1566
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>try and get as many episodes in one day as possible, right,

1567
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>And uh, it was a long day and it was

1568
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:51.840
<v Speaker 2>at the end and I was just talking to him.

1569
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, bro, Like, the problem, the problem that

1570
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I see with Christianity is is that there's a whole

1571
01:27:57.640 --> 01:27:59.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of judgment and not a whole lot of people

1572
01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>who are actually following what they're supposed to follow. And

1573
01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>just like even Jesus said, you'll know them by their fruit,

1574
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:07.479
<v Speaker 2>I look at the fruit and I see nothing but

1575
01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:11.039
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of spoiled ass Natfield shit right most of

1576
01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:13.479
<v Speaker 2>the time, not saying that's for everybody, but most of

1577
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>the religious people that I have come in contact with

1578
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:20.239
<v Speaker 2>do not practice what Jesus taught. They to be honest,

1579
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:22.279
<v Speaker 2>they don't even really practice what Paul taught to the

1580
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>most part. But that's the core of their beliefs, right,

1581
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>And so I was talking to him about that and

1582
01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Jesus and Jesus and Jacob actually said, he goes, wow,

1583
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:33.119
<v Speaker 2>this is actually a wake up call. I never would

1584
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:35.479
<v Speaker 2>have thought that God would would come to me by

1585
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:38.079
<v Speaker 2>speaking through you. I remember this conversation, bro, like it

1586
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>was yesterday. And then he proceeds to tell me the

1587
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Parable of the Lost Son, this story that I'm about

1588
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:47.159
<v Speaker 2>to read. And as Jacob is telling it to me,

1589
01:28:47.359 --> 01:28:49.119
<v Speaker 2>not to put them on blast or anything. That's my brother,

1590
01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:54.399
<v Speaker 2>I love them. But this story touched Jacob in such

1591
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>a way that it brought him to tears. As he

1592
01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.199
<v Speaker 2>was telling it, Jacob started like legit, crying, like almost booing,

1593
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:03.399
<v Speaker 2>because he could have he could he related to it.

1594
01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:07.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm about to read this story and then maybe

1595
01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:09.199
<v Speaker 2>you'll understand, and I'll fill it in if you don't

1596
01:29:10.119 --> 01:29:12.399
<v Speaker 2>as far as like how Jacob related to it. So

1597
01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the parable of the Lost Son, so Jesus continued, this

1598
01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:18.439
<v Speaker 2>is a story that he's telling. He goes, there was

1599
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>a man who had two sons. The younger one said

1600
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>to his father, father, give me my share of the estate,

1601
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>so he divided his property between them. Not long after that,

1602
01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:30.079
<v Speaker 2>the younger son got together all that he had had

1603
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:33.600
<v Speaker 2>set off for a distant country, and there squandered his

1604
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>wealth in wild living. After he spent everything, there was

1605
01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:40.800
<v Speaker 2>a severe famine in that whole country, and he began

1606
01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.319
<v Speaker 2>to be in need. So he went and hired himself

1607
01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:46.159
<v Speaker 2>out to a citizen of that country, basically made him

1608
01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:50.119
<v Speaker 2>a slave right to try and make some money. Who

1609
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:54.039
<v Speaker 2>sent him to his field, to his fields to feed pigs,

1610
01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>so that became his new job right. He longed to

1611
01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating,

1612
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>so he was so poor. He was eating the same

1613
01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>shit that the pigs were eating now, but no one

1614
01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:09.520
<v Speaker 2>gave him anything. So when he came to his senses,

1615
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>he said, how many of my father's hired servants have

1616
01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:15.279
<v Speaker 2>food to spare, and I am here starving to death.

1617
01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:17.239
<v Speaker 2>I will set out and go back to my father

1618
01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and say to him, father, I have sinned against Heaven

1619
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and against you. I am no longer worthy to be

1620
01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>called your son. Make me like one of your hired servants.

1621
01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:28.359
<v Speaker 2>So he got up and went to his father. But

1622
01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:30.840
<v Speaker 2>while he was still off a long way. His father

1623
01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>saw him and was filled with compassion for him. He

1624
01:30:33.880 --> 01:30:36.079
<v Speaker 2>ran to his son, threw his arms around him, and

1625
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:39.319
<v Speaker 2>kissed him. The son said to him, father, I have

1626
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>sinned against heaven and you I am no longer worthy

1627
01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:45.199
<v Speaker 2>to be even called your son. But the father said

1628
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>to his servants, quick, bring the best robe and put

1629
01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>it on him, put a ring on his finger and

1630
01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:52.479
<v Speaker 2>sandals on his feet. Bring the fat and calf and

1631
01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:55.119
<v Speaker 2>kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate, for the

1632
01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>son of mine was dead and is alive again. He

1633
01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:03.079
<v Speaker 2>was lost and he has found. So they began to celebrate. Meanwhile,

1634
01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:05.319
<v Speaker 2>the older son was in the field. When he came

1635
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.119
<v Speaker 2>near the house, he heard the music was in dancing,

1636
01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:10.479
<v Speaker 2>so he called one of the servants and asked him

1637
01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>what was going on. He goes, your brother has come,

1638
01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>he replied, and your father has killed the fattened calf

1639
01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>because he has him back safe and sound. The older

1640
01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:23.199
<v Speaker 2>brother became angry and refused to go in, so his

1641
01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>father went out and pleaded with him. But he answered

1642
01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:28.119
<v Speaker 2>his father, look, all these years I've been slaving for

1643
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>you and never disobeyed your orders, Yet you never gave

1644
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>me even a young goat so that I could celebrate

1645
01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>with my friends. But when this son of yours who

1646
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>has squandered your property with prostitutes and comes home, you

1647
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:45.279
<v Speaker 2>kill the fattest calf for him. The dad goes, my son,

1648
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.359
<v Speaker 2>you are always with me, and everything I have is yours.

1649
01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.279
<v Speaker 2>But we had to celebrate and be glad because this

1650
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:55.479
<v Speaker 2>brother of yours was dead and is alive again. He

1651
01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>was lost and he is found. So essentially the moral

1652
01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>of the story is that this guy goes away. You know,

1653
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>he's like, he doesn't wanna he doesn't want to like

1654
01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>live under his his dad's rules anymore, right, so he

1655
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>decides to go off away. He goes, Dad, give me

1656
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:13.439
<v Speaker 2>the money that you were gonna give me anyway. I

1657
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>want to go out and just make all life of

1658
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>my own. He goes and fucks that whole life up,

1659
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's thinking that his dad's never gonna take him back,

1660
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, he basically just turned his nose up

1661
01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:24.039
<v Speaker 2>at his dad and said, I don't want to be

1662
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>around you anymore. And then he went and squandered all

1663
01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:28.239
<v Speaker 2>that money. He got into a bunch of trouble, was

1664
01:32:28.279 --> 01:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>banging a bunch of prostitutes, right, he's not a good look.

1665
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:36.399
<v Speaker 2>So he was like almost like sad to even think

1666
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>about coming back home, because what is my dad going

1667
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>to think of me? Right, And Jesus is telling the

1668
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:45.399
<v Speaker 2>story and the and the dad seize his dude. He

1669
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:47.600
<v Speaker 2>sees his son far off in the field and he's like,

1670
01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:50.920
<v Speaker 2>get me everything. Get the finest robe, I one rings,

1671
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I want, I want the fattest calf. Right, like, get

1672
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>everything ready. I'm so happy my son is back. Basically

1673
01:32:57.319 --> 01:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>to say, and why why Jacob? What got so emotional

1674
01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>of it is because Jacob grew up Christian to where

1675
01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:07.319
<v Speaker 2>he had a period in his life where there was

1676
01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>like three or four years where he was questioning his

1677
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>beliefs because of his season of doubt. Right, and then

1678
01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Jacob decided to you know, become convinced of Christianity again.

1679
01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And so that's how he feels. He feels as if

1680
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:24.439
<v Speaker 2>God accepted him back even though he went astray, right, Right.

1681
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>The moral of the story of what I'm trying to

1682
01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:32.239
<v Speaker 2>say here is nowhere in this story did it say

1683
01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:35.279
<v Speaker 2>that you have to believe in Jesus. Jesus is death

1684
01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:39.119
<v Speaker 2>for your sins and the resurrection. Yet this is Jesus's

1685
01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>parable of what it's like to be back in God's grace,

1686
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:48.319
<v Speaker 2>to be back into the Kingdom of heaven. So you see,

1687
01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:52.479
<v Speaker 2>these are much different stories than what Paul was teaching. Yeah,

1688
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:56.239
<v Speaker 2>so that's my issue because Jesus taught nothing but parables,

1689
01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:00.359
<v Speaker 2>talked all the time, right, even though there's like seventeen

1690
01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>or eighteen years which nobody knows where the fuck he was,

1691
01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:09.039
<v Speaker 2>not sure, right, but even still it's I just find

1692
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:15.159
<v Speaker 2>it interesting that people will read that and still have

1693
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>to add something to it.

1694
01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not necessary, dude, not at all.

1695
01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:26.279
<v Speaker 2>So now I have this is actually oh yeah, here

1696
01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:33.760
<v Speaker 2>we go. So it is understood that homosexuality is not

1697
01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:40.399
<v Speaker 2>morally something that you can do as a Christian, mainly

1698
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:44.479
<v Speaker 2>that comes from Paul. Now you have like your Old

1699
01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Testament talking about it, but in the New Testament the

1700
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>only time it's ever brought up is by Paul. Okay,

1701
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and this is from Romans chapter one, verses twenty six

1702
01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:59.359
<v Speaker 2>through twenty seven. Paul goes, because of this, God gave

1703
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:04.199
<v Speaker 2>them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural

1704
01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>sexual relations, which is between a man and a woman,

1705
01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:10.479
<v Speaker 2>for unnatural ones. So the women were with the women.

1706
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Now in the same way, the men also abandoned abandoned

1707
01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:17.640
<v Speaker 2>natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for

1708
01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:21.720
<v Speaker 2>one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men and

1709
01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:26.199
<v Speaker 2>received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Basically

1710
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:31.720
<v Speaker 2>to say that because gays were being gays, they received

1711
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:35.359
<v Speaker 2>the due penalty for their error. That is where a

1712
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:37.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of that comes from. Okay, So, and there's a

1713
01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:40.359
<v Speaker 2>bunch of them. I don't know if I actually pulled

1714
01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:43.439
<v Speaker 2>all of them up. I don't think so.

1715
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:48.920
<v Speaker 3>No. I think that makes it pretty clear though, you know, yeah, that's.

1716
01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Ah, that is a Paul thing, just so everybody knows.

1717
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:56.399
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, what was my question here? So

1718
01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:59.359
<v Speaker 2>what did Oh? That's right because as I had said

1719
01:35:59.359 --> 01:36:01.920
<v Speaker 2>that Paul was a Pharisee, right, so I wanted to

1720
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:05.920
<v Speaker 2>pull up exactly what Jesus said about the Pharisees. Okay, So,

1721
01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Jesus strongly criticized the Pharisees, calling them hypocrites who focused

1722
01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:15.800
<v Speaker 2>on outward religious outward religious showing, while being full of greed,

1723
01:36:16.039 --> 01:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>self indulgence, and wickedness inside, comparing comparing them to whitewashed

1724
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>tombs that look good but are spiritually dead. He condemned

1725
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:31.760
<v Speaker 2>their hypocrisy, their love for status, their burdening people with

1726
01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>heavy laws that they ignored, and their persecution of prophets,

1727
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>warning them that they would face judgment for shedding righteous

1728
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:43.199
<v Speaker 2>blood while telling people to follow their their scriptural teaching,

1729
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>he urged them to he urged them not to imitate

1730
01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:53.039
<v Speaker 2>their corrupt actions. So basically he had a problem with them, right,

1731
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and yet an ex pharisee is the one that's coming

1732
01:36:56.119 --> 01:36:58.359
<v Speaker 2>in here and telling you that he had a divine

1733
01:36:58.359 --> 01:36:59.399
<v Speaker 2>revelation of Jesus.

1734
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:03.680
<v Speaker 3>And half of everything that you read is of that

1735
01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:05.000
<v Speaker 3>or of that guy.

1736
01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, trip, So I was curious a little bit, and

1737
01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I said, why did God require a blood sacrifice of Jesus?

1738
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Why do he require that? So, according to Christian theology,

1739
01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:23.399
<v Speaker 2>God required Jesus's blood sacrifice, And tell me if this

1740
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:30.520
<v Speaker 2>makes any sense, because sin demands death and blood represents life.

1741
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:33.600
<v Speaker 2>So an innocent life must be given to a tone

1742
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:38.800
<v Speaker 2>for humanity sins, satisfying divine justice, not because an almighty

1743
01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:42.720
<v Speaker 2>God needs it, but as a demonstration of his infinite

1744
01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:47.720
<v Speaker 2>love and a fulfillment of biblical biblical principles established in

1745
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>the Old Testament sacrificial system. So God essentially, just so

1746
01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>we're hearing this correctly, God needed a blood atonement, and

1747
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:02.520
<v Speaker 2>he needed one to be perfect, which all sacrifices had

1748
01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>to be like of the like whenever they do whenever

1749
01:38:07.239 --> 01:38:10.520
<v Speaker 2>they're performing the sacrifice at the Third Temple with the

1750
01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:13.039
<v Speaker 2>red heifer that that supposedly it was just done a

1751
01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>few months ago, and maybe they're going to be doing

1752
01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:17.720
<v Speaker 2>another one. I don't know, but it's supposed to be

1753
01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a perfect red heifer. There can't be nothing wrong with it.

1754
01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Can't be having a fucking cleft palette, you know, you

1755
01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>can't be having like fucking less toes or whatever. Right,

1756
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>it has to be perfect, No marking is nothing. It

1757
01:38:29.319 --> 01:38:31.039
<v Speaker 2>has to be a perfect animal in order for it

1758
01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:34.720
<v Speaker 2>to be like a perfect sacrifice. And so that's according

1759
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>to Jewish belief right, which I believe is mainly Cabbalistic.

1760
01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:42.560
<v Speaker 2>But that's neither here nor there. Point is is that

1761
01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:47.119
<v Speaker 2>they they were That's what they did in order to

1762
01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>atone for sins, was these sacrifices. And so now God,

1763
01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:55.720
<v Speaker 2>the almighty God of everybody, of everything, that, every thought

1764
01:38:55.760 --> 01:39:00.319
<v Speaker 2>and everything, was trying to essentially appease the jew and

1765
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Jewish law by sacrificing the perfect goat.

1766
01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Essentially right, God was trying to appease people.

1767
01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:16.920
<v Speaker 2>His people, his people, which makes no sense.

1768
01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't. So I mean God created sin. I

1769
01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:23.880
<v Speaker 3>mean God created sinful nature, you know, like it just

1770
01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:28.039
<v Speaker 3>doesn't doesn't track, you know, no, ridiculous.

1771
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. So so I just want to pull a

1772
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:34.159
<v Speaker 2>couple of those up because I thought that's interesting. So

1773
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:36.720
<v Speaker 2>now I want to get over to and if everybody

1774
01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>ever gets the chance, big shout out to Cipher dot

1775
01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:42.319
<v Speaker 2>j on TikTok. Do you ever get a chance go

1776
01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:45.520
<v Speaker 2>check him out? So cipher jay on TikTok. He had

1777
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a great video discerning the two stories between Paul and Jesus,

1778
01:39:52.439 --> 01:39:56.159
<v Speaker 2>so talk about the nature of salvation. Jesus said that

1779
01:39:56.199 --> 01:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the Kingdom of God is within you, which everybody knows. Right,

1780
01:39:59.239 --> 01:40:02.800
<v Speaker 2>that your faith has made you whole, made you whole

1781
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:07.359
<v Speaker 2>your faith right. Paul said, however, that if you confess

1782
01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:10.720
<v Speaker 2>with your mouth and you believe that you will be saved,

1783
01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that you are justified by faith apart from works. Wow,

1784
01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:21.760
<v Speaker 2>that that one statement alone contradicts what Jesus said, because

1785
01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Jesus never said faith apart from works is how you

1786
01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:29.199
<v Speaker 2>get to the Kingdom of heaven. No, Jesus included the works.

1787
01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>He said, as a matter of fact, your faith and

1788
01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:33.279
<v Speaker 2>your works are interchangeable. They may as well be the

1789
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:36.399
<v Speaker 2>same damn thing. Because if you are faithful and faithful

1790
01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:39.119
<v Speaker 2>to God, the God that is within you, the God

1791
01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:42.439
<v Speaker 2>that tells you like to help your neighbor and help

1792
01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:45.199
<v Speaker 2>the help the poor and the needy and all this

1793
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:48.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, that thing that that is inside of you,

1794
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>if you listen to that and have faith in that,

1795
01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:54.319
<v Speaker 2>then you're going to have to do the works. You

1796
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:55.880
<v Speaker 2>can't not do the works.

1797
01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Right right That Paul's way of looking at it is

1798
01:40:58.039 --> 01:41:02.279
<v Speaker 3>what allows for uh A to kill people his whole

1799
01:41:02.319 --> 01:41:05.960
<v Speaker 3>life and then just confess at the end, Paul said.

1800
01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Paul's like, just believe, brother, that's all you need. Like,

1801
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:16.720
<v Speaker 2>you can never live up to Jesus, So don't even try.

1802
01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Why would you try?

1803
01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:18.399
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1804
01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:22.279
<v Speaker 2>So, and then we get into sin logic as far

1805
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:25.720
<v Speaker 2>as how do we look at sins? So Jesus said,

1806
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:29.720
<v Speaker 2>neither do I condemn you go and sin no more.

1807
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Just don't do it anymore.

1808
01:41:32.399 --> 01:41:32.560
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1809
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Repent is basically what Jesus was saying about sins Like

1810
01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you sin, It's okay, you're not going to hell, but

1811
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:41.800
<v Speaker 2>you need to repent, change your mind, get out of

1812
01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that fucking zone, right, and then then you are right.

1813
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Just repent, that's it. Paul's like, all have sinned and

1814
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>fall short of the glory of God.

1815
01:41:52.439 --> 01:41:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, what that attitude?

1816
01:41:56.279 --> 01:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, dude. Now, as far as forgiveness goes Jesus said,

1817
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:06.279
<v Speaker 2>your sins are forgiven, dude. Once you repent, you're they're forgiven.

1818
01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And actually Jesus was was forgiving people of their sins,

1819
01:42:11.239 --> 01:42:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, because he was like God in the flesh, right, right,

1820
01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:17.840
<v Speaker 2>So he had the royalty to be able to do

1821
01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that according to believers, right, Paul said, without the shedding

1822
01:42:24.079 --> 01:42:26.720
<v Speaker 2>of blood, there is no forgiveness.

1823
01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Jeez, what God, Like, what are we talking about? So backwards, dude.

1824
01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:41.199
<v Speaker 2>So as far as Jesus's death, so Jesus. As far

1825
01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:44.479
<v Speaker 2>as like what saves you, oh yeah, that's right. So

1826
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>as far as what saves you, Jesus said, if you

1827
01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:51.640
<v Speaker 2>want to enter eternal life, keep the commandments, amongst loving

1828
01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:54.359
<v Speaker 2>your neighbor as yourself, and loving God and all that. Right,

1829
01:42:54.439 --> 01:42:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Paul said, by grace, you are saved. Through faith, not

1830
01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:04.319
<v Speaker 2>of works, right, saying fuck your works. Yeah, it's a

1831
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>nice gesture.

1832
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it doesn't really matter though what you did

1833
01:43:07.479 --> 01:43:08.840
<v Speaker 3>while you were alive. You know.

1834
01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:13.039
<v Speaker 2>See, this is where Christians will absolutely like delude this whole,

1835
01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>this whole sentiment right here. Not all Christians, but I've

1836
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:19.079
<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of Christians say this what I'm about

1837
01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:22.119
<v Speaker 2>to say, you can't earn your way into heaven.

1838
01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:23.439
<v Speaker 3>Bro mm hmm.

1839
01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, you're missing the fucking point.

1840
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:30.119
<v Speaker 2>You're missing. The point is that faith and works are interchangeable.

1841
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>That if you have faith, then you will do the

1842
01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:34.760
<v Speaker 2>works because you are working as if God is within

1843
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you and you're doing what God would do.

1844
01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, You're you're living that, right.

1845
01:43:39.720 --> 01:43:42.119
<v Speaker 2>You're living it. You're not just thinking it. You don't

1846
01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:49.119
<v Speaker 2>just believe it, right, stupid Yep, it's watered down. I

1847
01:43:49.159 --> 01:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>wish I could say this was kold aid, but it's

1848
01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:51.840
<v Speaker 2>too watered down.

1849
01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, there's like no sugar in it. Yeah, like the hell.

1850
01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, they're using Stevie up in this ship, you

1851
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:05.199
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So here we go, all right, now,

1852
01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:08.199
<v Speaker 2>as far as temple and sacrifice, Jesus said, go and

1853
01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:11.880
<v Speaker 2>learn what this means. I desire Listen to this, Jesus said,

1854
01:44:12.399 --> 01:44:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I desire mercy, not sacrifice. Right, not sacrifice. Paul said,

1855
01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Christ loved us and gave himself as a sacrifice.

1856
01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I don't think he would have. I don't think

1857
01:44:29.119 --> 01:44:32.520
<v Speaker 3>that was his his whole thing, right, Jesus.

1858
01:44:32.199 --> 01:44:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Was anti sacrifice. Paul's like, now, he sacrificed himself. What

1859
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:37.279
<v Speaker 2>is he talking about?

1860
01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:40.600
<v Speaker 3>He did it for you, you know you'd be grateful.

1861
01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:45.520
<v Speaker 2>So stupid. Now, as far as hierarchy, Jesus said, the

1862
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:51.119
<v Speaker 2>greatest among you shall be your servant. Okay, basically to

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<v Speaker 2>say that those who have the most faith, which means

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<v Speaker 2>they have the most amount of God inside of them,

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01:44:55.680 --> 01:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>or the connection to God is so potent, the greatest

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01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:02.119
<v Speaker 2>among you shall be your servant. They should serve you,

1867
01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:06.920
<v Speaker 2>because to serve others is to serve God. Right, that's

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01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:12.399
<v Speaker 2>the way that Jesus looked at it. Paul said, this

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01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:16.920
<v Speaker 2>is almost blasphemous, even putting in this context. Paul says, slaves,

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01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:19.960
<v Speaker 2>obey your masters with fear and trembling.

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01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's wholesome, Pretty wholesome, my.

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01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:31.279
<v Speaker 2>God, obey your master's slave with fear and trembling. By

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01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the way, I do want to say this. Paul was

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01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Paul really believed that, like the end times were coming

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01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:41.800
<v Speaker 2>in his lifetime. He legit believed it so much so

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01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>that he, dude, Paul was a oh uh, what's the

1877
01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:49.119
<v Speaker 2>fucking word? It's not coming to my mind. But never

1878
01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:54.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to have sex, Okay, Paul was like against having sex, right,

1879
01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:56.680
<v Speaker 2>it was against having sex, was against procreating and all

1880
01:45:56.720 --> 01:46:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that because he believe abs to there's the word what's

1881
01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:05.680
<v Speaker 2>the a word anal no abstinence, Well, what's that from?

1882
01:46:05.800 --> 01:46:10.000
<v Speaker 2>That's from like American fire or something. But so yeah,

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01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:13.359
<v Speaker 2>so Paul was was heavily on the abstinence part. He

1884
01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>was heavily like not on pro creating because he believed

1885
01:46:17.239 --> 01:46:21.319
<v Speaker 2>that doomsday literally the end times were coming in his lifetime.

1886
01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:25.359
<v Speaker 2>And to to pro create is like torture to these

1887
01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:28.279
<v Speaker 2>little kids. Don't don't even think about doing it right?

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01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Right?

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01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Why would you bring life into this world? Why would

1890
01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:35.039
<v Speaker 2>you do it right? It was a doomsday cult, is

1891
01:46:35.079 --> 01:46:38.720
<v Speaker 2>what he was trying to build. And so of course

1892
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense why he was saying. And this is

1893
01:46:42.359 --> 01:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>where some people might take it out of context. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I've heard is is that the reason why Paul

1895
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>said to the slaves to obey your masters with fear

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01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:53.399
<v Speaker 2>and trembling is because, look, you only got to do

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01:46:53.439 --> 01:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>it for a little bit longer, and then whenever heaven

1898
01:46:56.279 --> 01:46:59.279
<v Speaker 2>and earth is combined and we're not even here anymore,

1899
01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:02.159
<v Speaker 2>it's not even look the same, Like, just get by

1900
01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>your last couple of days. Just do it, no big deal,

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01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:09.000
<v Speaker 2>like your slave makes you do this whatever, who cares?

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01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:15.520
<v Speaker 2>It's only temporary, right, that's the context, right, even still

1903
01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:18.880
<v Speaker 2>not good words. Is not what Jesus was saying at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he was Paul Mary? Or was he just a

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01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:24.319
<v Speaker 3>single guy? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>He stayed single his whole life, I believe. Okay, yeah,

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01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and he actually believed that everybody else should be single

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01:47:31.960 --> 01:47:34.640
<v Speaker 2>so that they can devote all of their time to

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01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:40.439
<v Speaker 2>getting revelations from Jesus. Okay, all right, teach their own

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<v Speaker 2>Where was I? All right? As far as the nature

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01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:49.399
<v Speaker 2>of God goes, so Jesus said this is. These are

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<v Speaker 2>all quotes. By the way, Jesus said, God is spirit,

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01:47:54.119 --> 01:48:00.319
<v Speaker 2>and those who worship must worship in spirit and truth. Okay,

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01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that's perfectly okay. I think Paul said God will judge

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01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the secrets of men through Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that?

1918
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<v Speaker 3>Paul? Paul literally as far as we're dude, don't question it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the crazy thing too. Whenever. So, so Paul,

1920
01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.319
<v Speaker 2>he's on this road to Damascus, and he sees the

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01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:28.760
<v Speaker 2>vision of Jesus. Right if I'm not mistaken, And I

1922
01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:30.800
<v Speaker 2>don't think that I am, but I could be. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a Christian theologian or a scholar or anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>from my research, that is the only time that Jesus

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01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:40.760
<v Speaker 2>that Paul ever saw. Jesus was on this road, and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody could really account for how long the session between

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01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the two was, but it seemed to be pretty short.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it wasn't very long.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So you try a lot of messages from that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna stand there and tell me that you

1931
01:48:55.800 --> 01:49:00.800
<v Speaker 2>can stand there, whisker dews, whisker don'ts. You're gonna stand

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01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:04.239
<v Speaker 2>there and tell me that Paul received all of these

1933
01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:07.880
<v Speaker 2>messages from Jesus in just a couple of minutes through

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<v Speaker 2>a vision in which nobody else can verify. It was

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01:49:11.960 --> 01:49:15.439
<v Speaker 2>a download, dude, you know, it was like a whole packet.

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01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:17.520
<v Speaker 2>And this is what I say about downloads. I think

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01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:21.399
<v Speaker 2>that it's it's to the individual, Paul. If you believe

1938
01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:26.279
<v Speaker 2>that literally God made manifest in the ethereal realms, and

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01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:30.119
<v Speaker 2>you want to form that character, which is really I'm

1940
01:49:30.119 --> 01:49:32.279
<v Speaker 2>not gonna go there, but it's a projection of yourself.

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01:49:32.279 --> 01:49:37.439
<v Speaker 2>But whatever, if you really neither here nor there, If

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01:49:37.479 --> 01:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>you're going to form that and you're gonna receive some

1943
01:49:39.680 --> 01:49:44.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of downloaded information from the heavens, why do you

1944
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:47.399
<v Speaker 2>think that it has to be for everybody? Why can't

1945
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:50.479
<v Speaker 2>it be for you? Because you think about it, all

1946
01:49:50.600 --> 01:49:53.760
<v Speaker 2>these people who have divine revelations, think about Kim Clement,

1947
01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:56.279
<v Speaker 2>like we've talked about him before, or think about people

1948
01:49:56.279 --> 01:49:59.319
<v Speaker 2>who have near death experiences, all of these modern day

1949
01:49:59.319 --> 01:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>prophets he fel.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is all of this not in a Bible somewhere right? Yeah, well,

1951
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:08.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean God's a little inactive now, you know, we're

1952
01:50:08.079 --> 01:50:10.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of on our own. I think that's what people say.

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01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:13.720
<v Speaker 2>It just makes no sense of all the people to

1954
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:18.199
<v Speaker 2>ever prophesy Jesus or God, this is the only like

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01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:22.039
<v Speaker 2>one that we really listen to. Out of the thousands,

1956
01:50:22.159 --> 01:50:24.239
<v Speaker 2>the tens of thousands of people that have had divine

1957
01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:26.520
<v Speaker 2>revelation of Jesus, whether it be a near death experience

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01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:28.000
<v Speaker 2>or a dream or a nightmare or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's what we got, dude, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just silly. It's just silly to me. So here

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01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:40.039
<v Speaker 2>we go. Now, as far as human nature goes, Jesus goes,

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01:50:40.439 --> 01:50:43.359
<v Speaker 2>you are the light of the world. Literally, you are

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<v Speaker 2>the light of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul goes.

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<v Speaker 2>There is one God and one mediator between God and man.

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<v Speaker 2>That man is Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thought I was light, you know? Right? Nope, wrong, thought, wrong, Grandma.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as far as law and fulfillment goes, Jesus says,

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01:51:05.479 --> 01:51:08.079
<v Speaker 2>do not think that I came to abolish the law.

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<v Speaker 2>I came to fulfill it.

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<v Speaker 3>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And also another one Jesus says, and I'm not I'm

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01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:18.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna butcher the quote here, but he goes, I did

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<v Speaker 2>not come to even change one letter of the law.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't come to change nothing from it. You keep

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<v Speaker 2>on going by your commandments, you keep on going by

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01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:30.680
<v Speaker 2>your laws. I didn't come to change none of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what Paul said, Christ is the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the law.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he said that, dude. I don't think

1982
01:51:38.279 --> 01:51:41.239
<v Speaker 2>that was what he was trying to say. There, No,

1983
01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:43.359
<v Speaker 2>it's actually the opposite of what he was trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well he changed his mind, I guess yeah.

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01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Maybe. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Paul saw ethereal Jesus. These other people just saw

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01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:52.279
<v Speaker 2>flesh Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as far as gender issues, Jesus taught women, he

1990
01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:05.439
<v Speaker 2>defended them publicly, and then made them witnesses for the resurrection. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so he was like dude, His closest ally, which the

1992
01:52:10.319 --> 01:52:14.720
<v Speaker 2>church has branded a whore, his closest ally was Mary Magdalene,

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<v Speaker 2>so much so that I was was it James his

1994
01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:25.479
<v Speaker 2>brother or one of his apostles, was so jealous of

1995
01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Mary Magdalen because Jesus was telling and teaching Mary Magdalene

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, initiation secrets and you know Kingdom of

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01:52:33.720 --> 01:52:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Heaven secrets, and and just better ways to interpret what

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01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:39.439
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to say, right, having like private sessions

1999
01:52:39.439 --> 01:52:43.760
<v Speaker 2>where they're in shit, yep. And people got jealous of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jesus definitely didn't hate women. He loved him, right,

2002
01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:52.720
<v Speaker 2>He was like h He never said nothing about a

2003
01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:55.199
<v Speaker 2>woman being less than a man or a man being

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01:52:55.199 --> 01:52:57.039
<v Speaker 2>better than a woman, never said anything like that.

2005
01:52:58.000 --> 01:52:59.880
<v Speaker 3>However, what's Paul got to say?

2006
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Paulie wants a fucking cracker? Paul said, I do not

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01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:10.680
<v Speaker 2>permit a woman to teach or have any authority over man.

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01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Wow you hear that? Well?

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01:53:15.399 --> 01:53:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Are you women out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yepp?

2011
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<v Speaker 2>So if you believe in the Bible as it is,

2012
01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:24.479
<v Speaker 2>as the as the church likes to tell it to you,

2013
01:53:26.720 --> 01:53:29.279
<v Speaker 2>then you better listen to your husband, okay, because he

2014
01:53:29.399 --> 01:53:32.479
<v Speaker 2>knows better, right. And if you ain't listening to your husband,

2015
01:53:32.520 --> 01:53:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you better be listening to your side piece. I don't

2016
01:53:34.119 --> 01:53:36.680
<v Speaker 2>care who it is. If it is a male figure,

2017
01:53:36.720 --> 01:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you better listen to him. According to the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not me, that's the Bible. That's the Bible right there. Okay.

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01:53:44.319 --> 01:53:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Ye, However, I'm coming in and saying Paul was wrong, right,

2020
01:53:51.079 --> 01:53:52.560
<v Speaker 2>We just watched The Grinch.

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01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:52.840
<v Speaker 6>Wrong?

2022
01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Tho wrong? Anybody with a brain knows that women are

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01:53:58.159 --> 01:54:01.800
<v Speaker 2>usually smarter than men, not all the time, usually.

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01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:04.279
<v Speaker 3>I think son is not my case.

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01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:10.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding. I'm just okay, she's here anyway. So

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01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:17.680
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, Paul absolutely desecrating Jesus's teachings.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy now crazy and people just like took it. They're like, okay,

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01:54:22.119 --> 01:54:24.279
<v Speaker 3>we believe you, Like, I guess this is what we

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01:54:24.319 --> 01:54:25.239
<v Speaker 3>gotta abide by.

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<v Speaker 2>There, It's what God said.

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01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Jesus didn't come to me, you know, So who am

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01:54:28.840 --> 01:54:31.079
<v Speaker 3>I to say? You know, like he came to you,

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01:54:31.239 --> 01:54:32.399
<v Speaker 3>so like I have to believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:35.640
<v Speaker 3>What is what's going on? Dude?

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01:54:37.279 --> 01:54:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Nobody? It doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, oh, yes, this is where we get to

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01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:52.359
<v Speaker 2>the gainess. Here we go. So Paul was adamantly anti gay. Okay,

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01:54:52.399 --> 01:54:55.399
<v Speaker 2>this is why there is so much like of that

2041
01:54:55.520 --> 01:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>pray the gay shit in church all the time. I

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01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:00.680
<v Speaker 2>actually used to date somebody who had that happen into them,

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01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:03.880
<v Speaker 2>had the gay prayed out of them or not really,

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01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:12.680
<v Speaker 2>but they tried right. Yeah, So this comes from a

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01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:15.159
<v Speaker 2>couple of Bible verses. I believe that I read one

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01:55:15.199 --> 01:55:19.119
<v Speaker 2>of them already. Yeah, I read the Romans one. Now

2047
01:55:19.119 --> 01:55:23.359
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get to First Corinthians. Ironically it is

2048
01:55:23.439 --> 01:55:27.319
<v Speaker 2>chapter six, verse nine, So I just want to throw

2049
01:55:27.720 --> 01:55:33.520
<v Speaker 2>nobody got that? But anyway, so it starts here. Or

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01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:37.159
<v Speaker 2>do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the

2051
01:55:37.239 --> 01:55:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither the sexually

2052
01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:45.479
<v Speaker 2>immoral or idolators, nor adulterers, nor men who have sex

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01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:49.920
<v Speaker 2>with men, nor thieves, nor the greedy or drunkards, or

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01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:53.359
<v Speaker 2>slanderers or swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God. And

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01:55:53.399 --> 01:55:56.439
<v Speaker 2>that is what some of you were. But you were washed,

2056
01:55:56.640 --> 01:55:59.680
<v Speaker 2>you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of

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01:55:59.680 --> 01:56:02.359
<v Speaker 2>the law Jesus Christ, in the spirit of our God.

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01:56:03.720 --> 01:56:08.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what Paul said. Okay, now, what did Jesus have

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01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:09.319
<v Speaker 2>to say about this?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I just was like preaching a fucking

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01:56:13.039 --> 01:56:17.720
<v Speaker 2>sermon on the dude. You gotta be going, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the name of that reverend we just covered?

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to the head.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, reverend.

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<v Speaker 2>I yes, dude just gets the people going, you know,

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01:56:27.079 --> 01:56:31.760
<v Speaker 2>he did. So this is what Jesus said, dot dot

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01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:35.520
<v Speaker 2>dot dot dot dot nothing because there is no recorded

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01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:38.000
<v Speaker 2>verse in the Four Gospels between Matthew, Mark, Luke, and

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<v Speaker 2>John where Jesus specifically uses the word homosexuality or directly

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<v Speaker 2>addresses same sex relationships. Jesus frequently denounced sexual immortality or immorality.

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<v Speaker 2>Not immortality, that'd be weird. He denounced sexual immorality, such

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<v Speaker 2>as in Mark chapter seven, verse twenty one, and Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>Chapter fifteen, verse nineteen. So the traditional view, this is

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01:57:03.039 --> 01:57:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the old school view of people that just don't get it.

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01:57:06.439 --> 01:57:11.119
<v Speaker 2>The traditional view, the dogmatic view was the word I

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01:57:11.159 --> 01:57:14.159
<v Speaker 2>was searching for, is that many scholars argue for a

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01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:20.920
<v Speaker 2>first century Jew like Jesus pornia, which pornia, which is

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01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:25.479
<v Speaker 2>sexual immortality. That's the Greek word for it. Pornia automatically

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<v Speaker 2>included the sexual prohibitions found in the Old Testament law

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<v Speaker 2>within Leviticus eighteen and twenty, which specifically forbade male male

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01:57:35.319 --> 01:57:40.199
<v Speaker 2>same sex acts. So they're talking about old shit, Old

2083
01:57:40.239 --> 01:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Testament stuff, right. However, now that people are starting to

2084
01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:49.039
<v Speaker 2>separate it a little bit, the revisionist view is that

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01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:54.960
<v Speaker 2>they argue that pornia refers to specific harmful acts like

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01:57:55.039 --> 01:58:01.399
<v Speaker 2>prostitution or exploitation, rather than consensual loving relationlationships, which makes

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01:58:01.439 --> 01:58:02.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot more sense.

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01:58:02.720 --> 01:58:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely, So.

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01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Don't be selling that ass m. He's like, don't do that.

2090
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<v Speaker 2>Don't have no onlyfan. I mean, yeah, look, if you

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01:58:11.640 --> 01:58:15.239
<v Speaker 2>got only fans whatever, I don't care. Don't be going

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01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to no corner and selling it for two piece and

2093
01:58:17.680 --> 01:58:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a biscuit, is what he's trying to say, right, Don't

2094
01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:24.680
<v Speaker 2>be doing all that. What he's saying is is like, look,

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01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:27.479
<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of respect for yourself. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine if God is inside of you, is this

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01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:34.800
<v Speaker 2>something God would do? Is this something that Jesus would do?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what he was trying to say. M right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can connect with that that is within the

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01:58:40.520 --> 01:58:43.920
<v Speaker 2>kingdom of Heaven, that is within you, would you need.

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01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:44.119
<v Speaker 3>To do that?

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01:58:44.359 --> 01:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>You probably wouldn't, right because you don't need to do

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01:58:47.840 --> 01:58:50.239
<v Speaker 2>that to satisfy your soul. You're doing that to satisfy

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01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:53.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, your pocketbook and sometimes your body whatever. Right, Right,

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01:58:54.880 --> 01:58:57.680
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Jesus goes, I have come in my father's name,

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01:58:57.800 --> 01:59:00.720
<v Speaker 2>and you do not receive me if an another comes

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01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:02.920
<v Speaker 2>in Oh shit, this is right all right? So this

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01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:06.680
<v Speaker 2>is this is afterward. So this is whenever Jesus is

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01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:10.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about like somebody who's gonna come in his name

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01:59:10.880 --> 01:59:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and basically descreate all the things that he has said. Right,

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01:59:14.279 --> 01:59:16.800
<v Speaker 2>So Jesus goes, I have come in my father's name,

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<v Speaker 2>and if and you do not receive me, if another

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<v Speaker 2>comes in his own name, you will receive him. Basically

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<v Speaker 2>saying is is that if he comes in his in

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<v Speaker 2>his own name, Paul, mm hmm. You're gonna listen to

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01:59:31.159 --> 01:59:33.359
<v Speaker 2>what he has to say before you even hear what

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01:59:33.439 --> 01:59:35.399
<v Speaker 2>I got to say. And these aren't even my words,

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01:59:35.439 --> 01:59:37.600
<v Speaker 2>these are God's words, right right?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>You then you hear a little something from Paul. Paul goes,

2121
01:59:41.880 --> 01:59:45.479
<v Speaker 2>so Jesus is basically saying, don't don't listen to nothing

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01:59:45.640 --> 01:59:49.880
<v Speaker 2>about what Jesus Christ is telling you. This is God speaking, Okay, like,

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01:59:50.039 --> 01:59:51.039
<v Speaker 2>separate the two here.

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01:59:52.359 --> 01:59:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Paul.

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01:59:52.760 --> 01:59:56.039
<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, he goes, and that which was

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01:59:56.119 --> 01:59:59.159
<v Speaker 2>a trial to you in my bodily condition, you did

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01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:06.439
<v Speaker 2>not despise or love. But you, you, oh man, Paul says,

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02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:11.079
<v Speaker 2>you received me as an angel of God, as Christ

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02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Jesus himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. That's blasphemy, straight up blasphemy.

2131
02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:20.880
<v Speaker 2>How is the book not on fire with this page?

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<v Speaker 3>Holy shit? Dude? What do people say about this? I mean,

2133
02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:27.039
<v Speaker 3>maybe they just don't talk about it. They just buy it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

2135
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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's an it's a respect. It's a it's an

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<v Speaker 2>undying respect for authority, is what it is. It's an

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02:00:36.359 --> 02:00:40.399
<v Speaker 2>undying respect for tradition is what it is. It has

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02:00:40.439 --> 02:00:44.159
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with people actually using their brains of

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<v Speaker 2>This guy is literally saying, you are so lucky to

2140
02:00:50.359 --> 02:00:53.079
<v Speaker 2>receive me that I am as if I am an

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02:00:53.159 --> 02:00:56.640
<v Speaker 2>angel of God himself, and it takes it even a

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<v Speaker 2>step further. He goes as Christ Jesus himself. Wow, that

2143
02:01:02.199 --> 02:01:06.359
<v Speaker 2>is Galatians chapter four, verse fourteen. That's fucking blasphemy.

2144
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<v Speaker 3>If you ask me, when people read this, what do

2145
02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:13.359
<v Speaker 3>they do, They're just like, well, I mean we just

2146
02:01:14.520 --> 02:01:18.880
<v Speaker 3>accept that, Like, I'm not even religious, and that's crazy

2147
02:01:18.920 --> 02:01:22.439
<v Speaker 3>to be That is crazy, you know. But maybe that's

2148
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<v Speaker 3>why maybe we have the ability to kind of see

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02:01:24.560 --> 02:01:26.159
<v Speaker 3>it from the outside, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean take it for yourself and just

2151
02:01:32.279 --> 02:01:34.399
<v Speaker 2>just try and figure it out. I know that we

2152
02:01:34.479 --> 02:01:39.000
<v Speaker 2>are but sin sinners and just human minds and all

2153
02:01:39.039 --> 02:01:41.479
<v Speaker 2>that fun jazz, but I feel like even a human

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02:01:41.520 --> 02:01:43.079
<v Speaker 2>mind can figure that one out.

2155
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep.

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02:01:44.880 --> 02:01:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So uh. Jesus says that he comes in his father's

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02:01:47.960 --> 02:01:50.560
<v Speaker 2>name and you will not receive him, and you will

2158
02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:54.239
<v Speaker 2>not receive him, but if another comes in his own name,

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02:01:54.319 --> 02:01:57.640
<v Speaker 2>they will receive him. Paul brags that he has received

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<v Speaker 2>as an angel of God even as Christ himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Elf.

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02:02:00.760 --> 02:02:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Paul always came in his own name. I Paul the Apostle,

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02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:12.039
<v Speaker 2>which is interesting because somebody did a statistical overview, and

2164
02:02:12.479 --> 02:02:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I wish that I would have jotted this down,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't. Somebody did a statistical overview of the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of times that Jesus addressed himself in the first person,

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02:02:23.039 --> 02:02:26.000
<v Speaker 2>in any case, in first, second, third person, whatever. In

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of times that Paul did it. The amount

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<v Speaker 2>of times that Jesus did it out of all of

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<v Speaker 2>his words, out of every sentence, was like three percent

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<v Speaker 2>something along those lines. Was not a selfish guy, didn't

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02:02:39.600 --> 02:02:41.920
<v Speaker 2>want the credit, right. As a matter of fact, he

2173
02:02:41.960 --> 02:02:44.039
<v Speaker 2>never wanted the credit. He always gave all glory to God.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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02:02:45.560 --> 02:02:51.479
<v Speaker 2>However, somebody statistically got this that every time there was

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<v Speaker 2>a sentence in which Paul was speaking, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>thirty some odd percent that Paul was trying to take

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<v Speaker 2>credit for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So and he named himself Paul the Apostle.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. I mean that's that authority that you were

2182
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<v Speaker 3>saying that people seek out for. You know that that

2183
02:03:13.880 --> 02:03:17.640
<v Speaker 3>authority that he had was self appointed. You know, like

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<v Speaker 3>if I or anybody that you know was to just

2185
02:03:20.560 --> 02:03:24.239
<v Speaker 3>be like, you know, I am the fourteenth Apostle. You know,

2186
02:03:24.399 --> 02:03:27.359
<v Speaker 3>God came and told me this and so actually this

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02:03:27.439 --> 02:03:29.439
<v Speaker 3>and this and this has to be changed. And no

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02:03:29.439 --> 02:03:31.800
<v Speaker 3>one's gonna give a shit. No one's gonna say, oh,

2189
02:03:31.840 --> 02:03:34.279
<v Speaker 3>I believe you. You know. It's like, but back then

2190
02:03:34.359 --> 02:03:37.840
<v Speaker 3>it was, you know, I don't know. I don't understand that.

2191
02:03:37.880 --> 02:03:41.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand how that works. You know. But maybe

2192
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<v Speaker 3>when you're in that time, you don't really see it

2193
02:03:42.880 --> 02:03:44.680
<v Speaker 3>for what it is, and it just kind of builds

2194
02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:50.600
<v Speaker 3>and becomes this this unbreakable thing and it is the gospel,

2195
02:03:51.239 --> 02:03:51.439
<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is that whenever you get people to

2197
02:03:53.640 --> 02:03:57.079
<v Speaker 2>believe rather than know, it is so easy to convince

2198
02:03:57.119 --> 02:04:00.880
<v Speaker 2>people of the the most insane shit if all they

2199
02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:03.520
<v Speaker 2>have to do is believe. If you believe, what that

2200
02:04:03.640 --> 02:04:05.960
<v Speaker 2>means is you don't have to make sense of it

2201
02:04:06.039 --> 02:04:09.279
<v Speaker 2>in your mind. Right, that is? That is ultimately what

2202
02:04:09.319 --> 02:04:13.680
<v Speaker 2>belief is, is that you are just accepting something. You're

2203
02:04:13.720 --> 02:04:18.640
<v Speaker 2>accepting it without knowing it is a belief, right, Yeah,

2204
02:04:18.680 --> 02:04:22.920
<v Speaker 2>it's faith, it's belief whatever, Right, Like I don't need

2205
02:04:22.960 --> 02:04:28.760
<v Speaker 2>to tell you, Sean that your mother raised you, right, Like,

2206
02:04:28.840 --> 02:04:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't need you to believe that, right, I know

2207
02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:35.800
<v Speaker 2>you were there, you saw it. Confirmation, right, You don't

2208
02:04:35.800 --> 02:04:38.760
<v Speaker 2>need to believe that you know it. What Jesus was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to preach is that no, that God is within

2210
02:04:43.319 --> 02:04:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you know it.

2211
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<v Speaker 3>Paul's like, yo, just like I wish.

2212
02:04:49.359 --> 02:04:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Paul's like, yo, Jesus died for your sins.

2213
02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Dude, right, you ain't got it like I got it.

2214
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<v Speaker 2>It's like, but how how does that work? How does

2215
02:04:58.880 --> 02:05:02.439
<v Speaker 2>that transaction work? How does that math math? How does

2216
02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:07.880
<v Speaker 2>dying cover everybody else's sins? How can I not just

2217
02:05:07.960 --> 02:05:10.079
<v Speaker 2>say get up somewhere and stand up on top of

2218
02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:15.479
<v Speaker 2>a mountain and be sacrificed. How can I not say

2219
02:05:15.640 --> 02:05:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that if I die, everybody else's sins is fine. Now,

2220
02:05:19.880 --> 02:05:22.039
<v Speaker 2>one might say, well, you're not sinless, You're not clean.

2221
02:05:22.119 --> 02:05:25.920
<v Speaker 2>My Jesus was right, You're not the perfect, perfect sacrificial

2222
02:05:26.000 --> 02:05:31.600
<v Speaker 2>lamb mm hmm what if I was? Because correct me

2223
02:05:31.640 --> 02:05:36.079
<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong. But if you are baptized, you are

2224
02:05:36.119 --> 02:05:39.359
<v Speaker 2>now clean. That is the reason for getting baptized in

2225
02:05:39.359 --> 02:05:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the first place. So why then can I not just

2226
02:05:41.960 --> 02:05:43.920
<v Speaker 2>go get baptized, stand at the top of a mountain,

2227
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<v Speaker 2>say that I'm sacrificing myself for all of humanity and

2228
02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:48.159
<v Speaker 2>wiping away all their sins?

2229
02:05:48.800 --> 02:05:51.279
<v Speaker 3>How is how does that not work, but it worked

2230
02:05:51.279 --> 02:05:53.920
<v Speaker 3>for Jesus. Well, I think you would still have that

2231
02:05:54.000 --> 02:05:57.800
<v Speaker 3>original sin, you know, that original sin of man from

2232
02:05:57.920 --> 02:05:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Adam and Eve like that does. I don't think that

2233
02:05:59.800 --> 02:06:02.439
<v Speaker 3>ever goes away, But I could be wrong. I mean,

2234
02:06:02.720 --> 02:06:03.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

2235
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<v Speaker 2>According to Paul, yeah crazy so uh oh. Here's another

2236
02:06:08.439 --> 02:06:12.640
<v Speaker 2>blasphemous quote from Paul. This is in First Corinthians, chapter four,

2237
02:06:12.720 --> 02:06:15.479
<v Speaker 2>verses fourteen through sixteen. Like I said, I brought the receipts.

2238
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<v Speaker 2>If anybody wants to look this up, Paul says, Therefore,

2239
02:06:19.520 --> 02:06:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I exhort you be imitators of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Whoa okay, yeah shit, yeah buddy.

2241
02:06:30.239 --> 02:06:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Now Paul calls himself, I'll check this out.

2242
02:06:33.880 --> 02:06:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Now.

2243
02:06:34.520 --> 02:06:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Paul calls himself the father of his followers and asks

2244
02:06:40.000 --> 02:06:43.319
<v Speaker 2>them not to follow the example of Jesus, but to

2245
02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:47.079
<v Speaker 2>be imitators of him. However, what he did not know

2246
02:06:47.239 --> 02:06:50.920
<v Speaker 2>is that Jesus had already forbidden calling any man on

2247
02:06:50.960 --> 02:06:54.640
<v Speaker 2>earth your father in Matthew twenty three, verse nine, and

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02:06:55.239 --> 02:06:58.800
<v Speaker 2>in Matthew twenty three, verse nine it says, and do

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02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:02.239
<v Speaker 2>not call anyone on earth father, for you have one father,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is in heaven.

2251
02:07:04.359 --> 02:07:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Everything Paul stood for was a.

2252
02:07:07.520 --> 02:07:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Contradiction of Jesus. But Paul's like, call me daddy, shit,

2253
02:07:12.520 --> 02:07:21.000
<v Speaker 2>what heat a d Paul souh oh, yeah, dude, So

2254
02:07:22.119 --> 02:07:25.520
<v Speaker 2>this is where shit, well, shit's already weird, right, But

2255
02:07:25.960 --> 02:07:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about blasphemous, You want to talk

2256
02:07:27.880 --> 02:07:30.960
<v Speaker 2>about spitting in the face of the people who actually

2257
02:07:31.039 --> 02:07:35.640
<v Speaker 2>walked with Jesus. The Apostles the twelve. Okay, Paul made

2258
02:07:35.640 --> 02:07:38.760
<v Speaker 2>a mockery again, big shout out to Aaron Abke. He's

2259
02:07:38.800 --> 02:07:40.079
<v Speaker 2>on the point of this out. So I'm not trying

2260
02:07:40.079 --> 02:07:41.920
<v Speaker 2>to take credit for even most of this. This is

2261
02:07:42.079 --> 02:07:47.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I researched. Paul made a mockery of Jesus's apostles.

2262
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<v Speaker 2>This is a quote here from Paul. Listen to this.

2263
02:07:52.119 --> 02:07:55.920
<v Speaker 2>He's full of his own shit. Paul goes again, I say,

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02:07:56.359 --> 02:07:59.279
<v Speaker 2>let no one think of me as foolish, but if

2265
02:07:59.319 --> 02:08:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you do, receive me even as foolish, so that I

2266
02:08:03.560 --> 02:08:06.640
<v Speaker 2>also may boast a little. What I am saying, I

2267
02:08:06.680 --> 02:08:10.239
<v Speaker 2>am not saying as the Lord would, but as in foolishness,

2268
02:08:10.479 --> 02:08:14.319
<v Speaker 2>in this confidence of boasting. So he's proud of his

2269
02:08:14.399 --> 02:08:18.479
<v Speaker 2>confidence in boasting about his accolades. Right, So he goes,

2270
02:08:18.760 --> 02:08:22.119
<v Speaker 2>since many boasts. According to the flesh, I will boast. Also,

2271
02:08:22.520 --> 02:08:26.159
<v Speaker 2>are they Hebrews? So am I? Are they? Oh? Hold on,

2272
02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:29.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody needs to come back. He goes, are they Hebrews?

2273
02:08:29.960 --> 02:08:33.199
<v Speaker 2>So am I? Are they Israelites? So am I? Are

2274
02:08:33.239 --> 02:08:37.000
<v Speaker 2>they descendants of Abraham? So am I? Are they servants

2275
02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:40.439
<v Speaker 2>of Christ? I speak as if I'm insane? I even

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<v Speaker 2>more so, in far more labors, in far more imprisonments,

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02:08:44.640 --> 02:08:49.319
<v Speaker 2>beaten times without number, often in danger of death. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, he's talking shit about the Apostles, saying that, like,

2279
02:08:53.279 --> 02:08:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I went through all of this. So if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>want to call yourself apostles, what did you do to

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02:08:58.319 --> 02:09:00.560
<v Speaker 2>earn that title? Because this is what I had to

2282
02:09:00.600 --> 02:09:01.720
<v Speaker 2>go through to earn this title.

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02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Right.

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02:09:03.720 --> 02:09:07.279
<v Speaker 2>So whenever he's saying that, he goes, are you are You're?

2285
02:09:07.520 --> 02:09:07.800
<v Speaker 3>So what?

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02:09:07.840 --> 02:09:10.680
<v Speaker 2>You're a Hebrew? I am too? So what You're an Israelite?

2287
02:09:10.880 --> 02:09:13.439
<v Speaker 2>So am I? Are you a descendant of Abraham? I

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02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:16.399
<v Speaker 2>am that? Are you a servant of Christ? I am too.

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<v Speaker 3>And far more.

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02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Labors and far more imprisonments. I've been beaten times without number,

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02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:26.000
<v Speaker 2>often in danger of death. He goes, five times I

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<v Speaker 2>received from the Jews thirty nine lashes whippings, right, which

2293
02:09:33.119 --> 02:09:35.399
<v Speaker 2>already I'm not even done, but let's just stop right

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02:09:35.479 --> 02:09:40.560
<v Speaker 2>there for a second. Five times. So whenever Jesus is

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02:09:40.600 --> 02:09:44.960
<v Speaker 2>on the cross. The reason why it's thirty nine lashings

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02:09:44.960 --> 02:09:51.479
<v Speaker 2>and not forty is because anytime the only animals are

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02:09:51.520 --> 02:09:55.880
<v Speaker 2>allowed to get more than forty or more whippings. According

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02:09:55.920 --> 02:09:59.039
<v Speaker 2>to the Bible, if you beat anybody more than thirty

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02:09:59.119 --> 02:10:01.319
<v Speaker 2>nine times, you're calling them an animal, and that is

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02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:05.199
<v Speaker 2>just disgraceful. You can beat them thirty nine, okay, all right,

2301
02:10:05.520 --> 02:10:08.000
<v Speaker 2>So what he's saying is is that he got beat

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine with thirty nine lashings five times. So whatever

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02:10:14.560 --> 02:10:17.560
<v Speaker 2>five times forty is, So two hundred minus five would

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02:10:17.560 --> 02:10:19.279
<v Speaker 2>be one hundred ninety five. He got one hundred and

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02:10:19.359 --> 02:10:25.720
<v Speaker 2>ninety five lashings, right right. Jesus himself on the cross

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02:10:26.239 --> 02:10:33.640
<v Speaker 2>took thirty nine lashes. Died, okay, died. Paul's like, so

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02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:36.039
<v Speaker 2>what I could? I did that five times?

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02:10:36.279 --> 02:10:39.399
<v Speaker 3>Wow? So that's what Paul says. He tried to validate

2309
02:10:39.479 --> 02:10:43.920
<v Speaker 3>his worthiness of being the thirteenth Apostle. But he's almost

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02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:46.600
<v Speaker 3>actually kind of saying, like, look, I'm even more worthy

2311
02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:47.479
<v Speaker 3>than Jesus.

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02:10:47.279 --> 02:10:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Himself follow me, follow me.

2313
02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Wow, literally trying to almost deify himself.

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02:10:57.399 --> 02:11:02.920
<v Speaker 2>But there's more. He goes, three, three times I was

2315
02:11:02.960 --> 02:11:06.600
<v Speaker 2>beaten with rods once I was stoned, which, by the way,

2316
02:11:07.520 --> 02:11:09.199
<v Speaker 2>has anybody ever been stoned?

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02:11:09.439 --> 02:11:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Not to death? Oh, doesn't make any fucking sense.

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02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:16.279
<v Speaker 2>So three times I was beaten with rods, once I

2319
02:11:16.359 --> 02:11:19.479
<v Speaker 2>was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, a night and

2320
02:11:19.560 --> 02:11:22.399
<v Speaker 2>a day I have spent in the deep. That's from

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<v Speaker 2>Second Corinthians, verses eleven, chapter eleven, verses sixteen through twenty five.

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02:11:28.159 --> 02:11:31.239
<v Speaker 2>So basically, what he's saying here is that I am

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02:11:31.319 --> 02:11:35.840
<v Speaker 2>greater than Jesus's disciples because I have suffered more than them.

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02:11:36.399 --> 02:11:38.199
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's what he's trying to say. Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's another quote. This is from Galatians. First Galatians, chapter eleven,

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02:11:45.279 --> 02:11:49.960
<v Speaker 2>verse I'm sorry. Chapter one of Galatians, verses eleven through seventeen.

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02:11:50.600 --> 02:11:53.680
<v Speaker 2>He goes, for I would have you know, brothers, that

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02:11:53.760 --> 02:11:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the gospel was preached by me, that the gospel that

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02:11:57.760 --> 02:12:02.840
<v Speaker 2>was preached by me is not man's gossip. Oh, not

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02:12:02.920 --> 02:12:06.720
<v Speaker 2>from Jesus the man. It's not man's gospel. For I

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02:12:06.840 --> 02:12:09.159
<v Speaker 2>did not receive it from any man, nor was I

2332
02:12:09.199 --> 02:12:12.119
<v Speaker 2>taught it, but I received it through a revelation of

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02:12:12.199 --> 02:12:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ. But when he who had set me apart

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02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:18.479
<v Speaker 2>before I was born and called me by his grace,

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02:12:18.840 --> 02:12:21.800
<v Speaker 2>was pleased to reveal his son to me in order

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02:12:21.840 --> 02:12:24.720
<v Speaker 2>that I might preach him among the gentiles. I did

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02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:27.439
<v Speaker 2>not immediately consult with anyone, nor did I go up

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02:12:27.439 --> 02:12:31.439
<v Speaker 2>to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me. But

2339
02:12:31.520 --> 02:12:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I went away to Arabia and returned again to Damascus.

2340
02:12:35.359 --> 02:12:38.720
<v Speaker 2>So what he's saying here is is that I didn't

2341
02:12:38.720 --> 02:12:42.199
<v Speaker 2>immediately consult with anybody. What he's saying is whenever he

2342
02:12:42.319 --> 02:12:44.880
<v Speaker 2>had that vision, he didn't have to go and consult

2343
02:12:44.920 --> 02:12:47.920
<v Speaker 2>with the apostles, the ones that actually walked with Jesus,

2344
02:12:48.039 --> 02:12:50.039
<v Speaker 2>because he didn't need to know all that old ass shit.

2345
02:12:50.199 --> 02:12:54.960
<v Speaker 2>He got the NW Jesus, right, He's like, that's old news.

2346
02:12:55.279 --> 02:12:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I got new Jesus coming to me. All your shit

2347
02:12:57.880 --> 02:13:00.199
<v Speaker 2>you heard it from the man Jesus. I got it

2348
02:13:00.199 --> 02:13:04.560
<v Speaker 2>from God, Jesus God. Okay, that's what he's saying. And

2349
02:13:04.640 --> 02:13:10.079
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, and he actually is saying that it was

2350
02:13:10.159 --> 02:13:13.079
<v Speaker 2>set out to him that this was gonna happen. It

2351
02:13:13.119 --> 02:13:15.319
<v Speaker 2>was written in the stars, even before he was born.

2352
02:13:15.439 --> 02:13:17.039
<v Speaker 2>This is how high he is on his own supply.

2353
02:13:17.720 --> 02:13:18.279
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

2354
02:13:19.119 --> 02:13:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, so he's saying I didn't go to any

2355
02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:24.880
<v Speaker 2>of your apostles, he goes, Nor did I even go

2356
02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:27.800
<v Speaker 2>to Jerusalem to those who were who are the apostles

2357
02:13:27.840 --> 02:13:30.279
<v Speaker 2>before me or any of the followers before the before me?

2358
02:13:30.319 --> 02:13:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I didn't need to consult with them. Dude, what do

2359
02:13:33.439 --> 02:13:33.800
<v Speaker 2>they know?

2360
02:13:34.399 --> 02:13:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Right?

2361
02:13:35.640 --> 02:13:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, this is the ship that Jesus was warning against,

2362
02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:44.079
<v Speaker 2>in case anybody's wondering, Right, yep, here's one. Now, this

2363
02:13:44.119 --> 02:13:49.000
<v Speaker 2>is something from Jesus. This is nice, something good, something wholesome.

2364
02:13:49.560 --> 02:13:53.079
<v Speaker 2>We need it for a change. I'm this guy that

2365
02:13:53.239 --> 02:13:55.439
<v Speaker 2>just wants to be like Marilyn Manson and remove a

2366
02:13:55.439 --> 02:13:57.760
<v Speaker 2>couple of his ribs to just you know what, you know,

2367
02:13:59.560 --> 02:14:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Jesus goes for I was hungry and you gave me

2368
02:14:02.319 --> 02:14:04.840
<v Speaker 2>no food. I was thirsty and you gave me no drink.

2369
02:14:05.079 --> 02:14:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I was a stranger and you did not welcome me naked,

2370
02:14:07.760 --> 02:14:10.279
<v Speaker 2>and you didn't clothe me sick and in prison, and

2371
02:14:10.319 --> 02:14:13.079
<v Speaker 2>you did not visit me. Then they will then, then

2372
02:14:13.119 --> 02:14:16.680
<v Speaker 2>they will also answer, Lord, when did we see you

2373
02:14:16.880 --> 02:14:19.720
<v Speaker 2>hungry or thirsty, or as a stranger or naked or

2374
02:14:19.760 --> 02:14:23.399
<v Speaker 2>sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee.

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02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Then he answered them, truly, I say to you, as

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02:14:26.039 --> 02:14:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you did, as you did it, not to the least

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02:14:29.279 --> 02:14:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of the one of these. You did it, not to me.

2378
02:14:31.960 --> 02:14:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Basically to say that Jesus saw himself as everybody. Dude,

2379
02:14:36.720 --> 02:14:39.279
<v Speaker 2>that's what he's trying to say. Lift the rock and

2380
02:14:39.359 --> 02:14:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll be there. Help a stranger, and you're helping me, help,

2381
02:14:42.640 --> 02:14:45.039
<v Speaker 2>your help, your neighbor, you're helping me. What he means

2382
02:14:45.039 --> 02:14:50.279
<v Speaker 2>by me is the one, the all, the everything, everything

2383
02:14:50.359 --> 02:14:55.439
<v Speaker 2>is a mirrored image of itself. So what that's what

2384
02:14:55.479 --> 02:14:57.319
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to say, is that I'm Jesus, You're

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02:14:57.399 --> 02:15:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Jesus here, everybody's Jesus, essentially, is what Jesus was trying

2386
02:15:00.399 --> 02:15:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to say, right, yeah, and uh so, then we go

2387
02:15:05.000 --> 02:15:09.319
<v Speaker 2>over to Luke chapter six, verse thirty seven. The he goes,

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02:15:09.479 --> 02:15:12.319
<v Speaker 2>do not judge and you will not be judged. Do

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02:15:12.479 --> 02:15:15.439
<v Speaker 2>not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive and

2390
02:15:15.520 --> 02:15:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you will be forgiven. Give and it will be given

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02:15:17.960 --> 02:15:20.680
<v Speaker 2>to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaking together, and

2392
02:15:20.760 --> 02:15:24.039
<v Speaker 2>running over will be poured into your lap. For with

2393
02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the measure you use it will be measured to you. Basically,

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02:15:28.680 --> 02:15:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that's what Jesus is saying, do unto others as as

2395
02:15:32.840 --> 02:15:37.239
<v Speaker 2>you would like others to do unto you, right, solid, Yeah, solid,

2396
02:15:37.279 --> 02:15:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Everything is a mirrored image opposite of what Paul was saying.

2397
02:15:44.279 --> 02:15:47.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's pretty much what we got. And there's

2398
02:15:47.960 --> 02:15:49.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot more. I could keep on going, but We've

2399
02:15:49.680 --> 02:15:51.560
<v Speaker 2>already gone a couple hours, and I'm not trying to

2400
02:15:51.600 --> 02:15:53.319
<v Speaker 2>extend it and water it down or anything, but you

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02:15:53.359 --> 02:15:55.640
<v Speaker 2>basically get the gist of what I'm trying to say, right, Yeah.

2402
02:15:55.720 --> 02:15:58.359
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea, man, I thought there was it

2403
02:15:58.399 --> 02:16:01.479
<v Speaker 3>was gonna be like a little bit deluded to where

2404
02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:04.520
<v Speaker 3>you actually had to really interpret it and go okay,

2405
02:16:04.600 --> 02:16:07.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, but like that was just like super clear

2406
02:16:07.159 --> 02:16:10.880
<v Speaker 3>and obvious. How different you know, Paul's messages were as

2407
02:16:10.880 --> 02:16:14.079
<v Speaker 3>opposed to Jesus and really how he looked at himself,

2408
02:16:14.319 --> 02:16:18.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, like, holy shit, dude, and people just accept it, dude,

2409
02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Like that's wild to me.

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02:16:21.199 --> 02:16:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean Paul. It said that Paul had

2411
02:16:25.560 --> 02:16:27.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of demons, and that is something that Aaron

2412
02:16:27.840 --> 02:16:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Abkey was suggesting, because Paul was like, you know, to

2413
02:16:32.280 --> 02:16:38.239
<v Speaker 2>live is to is basically like a punishment. He believed

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02:16:38.239 --> 02:16:41.200
<v Speaker 2>that living was a punishment, that being a human is

2415
02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:44.680
<v Speaker 2>like one of the lowest things that you could possibly be,

2416
02:16:44.680 --> 02:16:47.280
<v Speaker 2>because all we want to do is just sin. All

2417
02:16:47.319 --> 02:16:50.040
<v Speaker 2>we care about is eating until we can't eat no more,

2418
02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:52.680
<v Speaker 2>drinking until we can't drink, no more, fucking until we

2419
02:16:52.719 --> 02:16:55.559
<v Speaker 2>can't fuck no more. And all this is what humans are.

2420
02:16:55.600 --> 02:16:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Pigs in the eyes of Paul, right, And that literally

2421
02:16:59.239 --> 02:17:01.520
<v Speaker 2>you will stay a pig in the eyes of Paul

2422
02:17:01.840 --> 02:17:04.120
<v Speaker 2>and the eyes of most Christians and most churches as well.

2423
02:17:05.239 --> 02:17:09.079
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna stay that until you accept the Jesus Christ

2424
02:17:09.479 --> 02:17:10.959
<v Speaker 2>is your Lord and favor, and that he died for

2425
02:17:11.040 --> 02:17:16.000
<v Speaker 2>your sins and resurrected then and only until then, you

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02:17:16.040 --> 02:17:19.760
<v Speaker 2>are nothing but fucking swine. Wow, that's basically what Paul

2427
02:17:19.799 --> 02:17:21.840
<v Speaker 2>is trying to say. So, yeah, we weren't grasping at straws.

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02:17:21.879 --> 02:17:24.040
<v Speaker 2>We're literally reading it straight from the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy. I don't understand how people don't see

2430
02:17:28.719 --> 02:17:31.360
<v Speaker 3>it that way. You know. Well, as you've said before,

2431
02:17:31.360 --> 02:17:34.680
<v Speaker 3>it's more like a tradition than it is like actually

2432
02:17:35.120 --> 02:17:37.239
<v Speaker 3>using your own mind and really trying to figure out

2433
02:17:37.440 --> 02:17:39.920
<v Speaker 3>why things are the way they are, you know, and

2434
02:17:39.959 --> 02:17:42.959
<v Speaker 3>why you believe the things you believe, and that is

2435
02:17:43.280 --> 02:17:44.799
<v Speaker 3>that is phenomenal work.

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02:17:45.200 --> 02:17:49.959
<v Speaker 2>Well, and because they they mythologize Paul essentially is what's

2437
02:17:49.959 --> 02:17:52.479
<v Speaker 2>going on. I think that they basically turned him into

2438
02:17:52.600 --> 02:17:56.000
<v Speaker 2>such a figure that you cannot question that authority because

2439
02:17:56.079 --> 02:17:58.799
<v Speaker 2>he had divine authority. He had the vision on the

2440
02:17:58.840 --> 02:18:01.399
<v Speaker 2>road to Damascus. He was the one that turned against

2441
02:18:01.399 --> 02:18:03.479
<v Speaker 2>his ways of killing Christians and then decided to be

2442
02:18:03.520 --> 02:18:08.120
<v Speaker 2>a Christian himself. And by the way, he was the

2443
02:18:08.159 --> 02:18:10.159
<v Speaker 2>one that was going around building all the churches.

2444
02:18:10.959 --> 02:18:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Mmmmmm okay.

2445
02:18:13.319 --> 02:18:15.479
<v Speaker 2>He was the one that was building the churches everywhere.

2446
02:18:16.760 --> 02:18:20.719
<v Speaker 2>So this is the version of the Bible that most

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02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:24.079
<v Speaker 2>people get, is Paul's version because he was the one

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02:18:24.079 --> 02:18:25.120
<v Speaker 2>that was building the churches.

2449
02:18:25.600 --> 02:18:28.280
<v Speaker 3>That's huge, dude. I had no idea what that deep

2450
02:18:28.760 --> 02:18:32.440
<v Speaker 3>really falls, deep oblivious, ignorant to it all.

2451
02:18:32.559 --> 02:18:35.840
<v Speaker 2>But you wouldn't know any otherwise. Most people wouldn't even think.

2452
02:18:36.799 --> 02:18:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how do you separate one from the other. Well,

2453
02:18:40.159 --> 02:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>you separate one from the other using fucking logic. One

2454
02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:48.159
<v Speaker 2>actually was the savior. One was pretending to essentially be

2455
02:18:48.399 --> 02:18:52.879
<v Speaker 2>the savior, and and you know, and trying to interpret

2456
02:18:53.680 --> 02:18:58.520
<v Speaker 2>what Jesus' will was from the ether and people call

2457
02:18:58.639 --> 02:19:04.040
<v Speaker 2>us woo Woo. You're literally basing your entire religion off

2458
02:19:04.079 --> 02:19:08.639
<v Speaker 2>of some fucking guy's vision, and we're the woo Woo ones.

2459
02:19:09.040 --> 02:19:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Right. Let's see the difference is between the Woo Woo

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02:19:11.719 --> 02:19:14.120
<v Speaker 3>and Paul is that, you know, whenever we get a

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02:19:14.200 --> 02:19:18.440
<v Speaker 3>download or you know, just some understanding, we already understand

2462
02:19:18.440 --> 02:19:22.360
<v Speaker 3>that most likely it's really just for us. You know,

2463
02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:25.920
<v Speaker 3>we know that everybody's on their own journey and at

2464
02:19:25.959 --> 02:19:27.760
<v Speaker 3>a different level of the journey. I don't even know. I

2465
02:19:27.760 --> 02:19:31.200
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't even say level, just a different part of their journey, right,

2466
02:19:31.239 --> 02:19:33.920
<v Speaker 3>And so when you get an understanding or a vision

2467
02:19:34.040 --> 02:19:36.040
<v Speaker 3>or you have a dream and you're like, oh, that

2468
02:19:36.120 --> 02:19:37.639
<v Speaker 3>was weird, and you interpret it and you're like, oh,

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02:19:37.680 --> 02:19:39.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it had to do with this because I'm

2470
02:19:39.280 --> 02:19:42.079
<v Speaker 3>going through this and it's for you, you know, it's

2471
02:19:42.120 --> 02:19:45.639
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily for the masses. Oh So, I mean that's

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02:19:45.639 --> 02:19:46.360
<v Speaker 3>the huge difference.

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02:19:47.639 --> 02:19:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Think about it. Like, we've done a lot of different meditations,

2474
02:19:50.799 --> 02:19:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and we've had like awesome visions and experiences in there

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02:19:53.760 --> 02:19:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and everything. I went to like what was it leprechaun

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02:19:58.000 --> 02:20:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Land and met a Leprecawn named Garrick. Yeah, do I

2477
02:20:01.079 --> 02:20:03.799
<v Speaker 2>need to write a gospel and tell everybody what Garrick

2478
02:20:03.840 --> 02:20:05.319
<v Speaker 2>said from the other fucking side.

2479
02:20:05.760 --> 02:20:09.959
<v Speaker 3>No, dude, No, but it's understood. It's ridiculous, right, I mean,

2480
02:20:10.040 --> 02:20:11.879
<v Speaker 3>And this is this is what I was thinking about too,

2481
02:20:11.879 --> 02:20:14.440
<v Speaker 3>as far as like those different meditations and everything that

2482
02:20:14.479 --> 02:20:16.639
<v Speaker 3>we've had, like you've had that experience or the whole

2483
02:20:16.719 --> 02:20:19.239
<v Speaker 3>dragon one or the you know, We've had so many

2484
02:20:19.239 --> 02:20:22.280
<v Speaker 3>different ones. And I feel like whatever you accept and

2485
02:20:22.799 --> 02:20:25.920
<v Speaker 3>want to believe, even just briefly for that meditation, you

2486
02:20:25.959 --> 02:20:28.559
<v Speaker 3>can make that happen. And so I mean, who's to say,

2487
02:20:28.680 --> 02:20:32.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe Paul actually had some sort of revelation or whatever

2488
02:20:32.680 --> 02:20:34.959
<v Speaker 3>you want to call it, right, But that doesn't necessarily

2489
02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:39.319
<v Speaker 3>mean that it was the God, you know, or the Jesus.

2490
02:20:39.319 --> 02:20:42.040
<v Speaker 3>It could have been his own interpretation of Jesus. And

2491
02:20:42.360 --> 02:20:44.760
<v Speaker 3>then it he intertwined it with his own beliefs, in

2492
02:20:44.840 --> 02:20:48.639
<v Speaker 3>his own ways of wanting things to be, and said, okay,

2493
02:20:48.639 --> 02:20:50.319
<v Speaker 3>well this is it. You know what I'm saying. It

2494
02:20:50.360 --> 02:20:53.639
<v Speaker 3>was just an interpretation of his own, his own mind,

2495
02:20:54.520 --> 02:20:56.239
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Yes, essential to how I

2496
02:20:56.280 --> 02:20:56.719
<v Speaker 3>look at it.

2497
02:20:57.760 --> 02:21:02.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, Paul was a very orchard individual in his

2498
02:21:02.879 --> 02:21:06.280
<v Speaker 2>own mind. I believe that he had a lot of

2499
02:21:06.280 --> 02:21:10.479
<v Speaker 2>shit going on upstairs, and what was going on to him,

2500
02:21:11.000 --> 02:21:13.680
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to make everybody else pay for it.

2501
02:21:14.440 --> 02:21:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Essentially. Yeah, well, you know, misery loves company.

2502
02:21:18.319 --> 02:21:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Man, the Kabala King says, not gonna lie. I grew

2503
02:21:22.399 --> 02:21:24.079
<v Speaker 2>up in a church. I think I have a lot

2504
02:21:24.120 --> 02:21:26.920
<v Speaker 2>better of an understanding and knowledge about the Bible, even

2505
02:21:27.040 --> 02:21:30.520
<v Speaker 2>more than most self proclaimed Christians. But the fact that

2506
02:21:30.559 --> 02:21:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know and have never heard about these contradictions

2507
02:21:33.399 --> 02:21:35.840
<v Speaker 2>is mind blowing, which is why I've been bugging about

2508
02:21:35.879 --> 02:21:38.360
<v Speaker 2>hearing this episode. This shit is mind blowing, and the

2509
02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:40.840
<v Speaker 2>fact that most Bible leaders and scholars turn a blind

2510
02:21:40.840 --> 02:21:43.959
<v Speaker 2>eye to this shit is disappointing as fuck. Thank you, Jonathan,

2511
02:21:44.040 --> 02:21:51.719
<v Speaker 2>your service and research diligence is greatly appreciated. Ganggang appreciate that. Hey, dude,

2512
02:21:51.760 --> 02:21:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm just uh, I'm just going after the people that

2513
02:21:54.920 --> 02:21:59.000
<v Speaker 2>have already talked about it. You know, It's it's amazing

2514
02:21:59.319 --> 02:22:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the the ount of research that people do whenever they

2515
02:22:03.040 --> 02:22:07.239
<v Speaker 2>are passionate about a subject. You know, you almost feel

2516
02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:10.600
<v Speaker 2>as if you are being guided by God in a sense.

2517
02:22:12.280 --> 02:22:15.840
<v Speaker 2>In that flow state. Yeah, for sure.

2518
02:22:16.840 --> 02:22:20.600
<v Speaker 3>I think you're gonna enjoy this tarot card. It just

2519
02:22:20.639 --> 02:22:23.600
<v Speaker 3>makes sense. Okay, Well I got a new tarot deck.

2520
02:22:23.799 --> 02:22:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh you did. Yeah, my wife got me a deck

2521
02:22:25.879 --> 02:22:26.799
<v Speaker 3>for Christmas.

2522
02:22:27.840 --> 02:22:29.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, don't say it yeah, because I'm not done

2523
02:22:30.040 --> 02:22:32.639
<v Speaker 2>just yet. I'm almost done. But this is I got

2524
02:22:32.639 --> 02:22:35.120
<v Speaker 2>a little autro here. All I've had a lot of

2525
02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:39.399
<v Speaker 2>time to plan this. So now we go as far

2526
02:22:39.479 --> 02:22:43.399
<v Speaker 2>as Jesus beyond Paul. When you strip away the letters,

2527
02:22:43.440 --> 02:22:46.639
<v Speaker 2>the institutions, the councils, the creeds, and the fear, what

2528
02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:50.079
<v Speaker 2>remains is not a religion. It is a teacher. Jesus

2529
02:22:50.159 --> 02:22:52.479
<v Speaker 2>didn't come to be believed in. He came to be

2530
02:22:52.639 --> 02:22:56.639
<v Speaker 2>listened to. He didn't demand allegiance, a blood sacrifice, or

2531
02:22:56.719 --> 02:23:02.239
<v Speaker 2>doctrinal purity. He spoke of inner transformation, passion, ego, death, forgiveness,

2532
02:23:02.280 --> 02:23:05.280
<v Speaker 2>and the awakening to the Kingdom within you. And when

2533
02:23:05.319 --> 02:23:09.280
<v Speaker 2>we finally separate Jesus from Paul, something remarkable happens. Jesus

2534
02:23:09.280 --> 02:23:12.479
<v Speaker 2>steps out of theology and stands shoulder to shoulder with

2535
02:23:12.559 --> 02:23:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the great spiritual mystics, masters and sages of history, not

2536
02:23:16.760 --> 02:23:21.280
<v Speaker 2>as an object of worship, but as a mirror pointing inward.

2537
02:23:21.680 --> 02:23:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Paul gave the world a system to believe in. Jesus

2538
02:23:24.799 --> 02:23:28.399
<v Speaker 2>gave the world a way to be, and systems divide.

2539
02:23:28.680 --> 02:23:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Awakening doesn't. Wars weren't fought over Jesus's teachings. They were

2540
02:23:32.600 --> 02:23:36.879
<v Speaker 2>fought over interpretations, authority, and truth. So if walking away

2541
02:23:36.920 --> 02:23:42.040
<v Speaker 2>from Paul feels uncomfortable, good because awakening usually does. Because

2542
02:23:42.079 --> 02:23:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the moment you stop outsourcing your connection to God, you

2543
02:23:45.200 --> 02:23:48.440
<v Speaker 2>realize that Jesus wasn't building a church, he was waking

2544
02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:51.799
<v Speaker 2>people up. This is the mystic way. And tonight we

2545
02:23:51.840 --> 02:23:55.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't lose Jesus. We finally found him.

2546
02:23:55.760 --> 02:23:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Dude, love it.

2547
02:23:57.479 --> 02:24:01.280
<v Speaker 2>That was great, Oh dude, just a little cherry on top.

2548
02:24:01.799 --> 02:24:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2549
02:24:02.079 --> 02:24:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Man, all right, So what'll we got for that tarot?

2550
02:24:07.239 --> 02:24:07.760
<v Speaker 3>We got to.

2551
02:24:09.280 --> 02:24:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Get out of here, talk Are you kidding me?

2552
02:24:12.680 --> 02:24:13.920
<v Speaker 3>The light within? Man?

2553
02:24:14.040 --> 02:24:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, what is happening? The sun beautiful, which is

2554
02:24:20.559 --> 02:24:24.879
<v Speaker 2>actually interesting. It's the nineteenth card. So one plus nine

2555
02:24:24.959 --> 02:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>equals ten. Ten is the end of a cycle and

2556
02:24:28.959 --> 02:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the start of a new one because ten can be

2557
02:24:30.799 --> 02:24:34.200
<v Speaker 2>reduced down to one, which is the beginning. Right, So

2558
02:24:34.799 --> 02:24:37.719
<v Speaker 2>the sun, the sun reveals a clarity that comes only

2559
02:24:37.760 --> 02:24:40.719
<v Speaker 2>after we have spent time with the darkest parts of ourselves.

2560
02:24:41.079 --> 02:24:44.200
<v Speaker 2>The sun signifies great clarity and the enthusiasm that comes

2561
02:24:44.200 --> 02:24:47.520
<v Speaker 2>after emerging from the darkness. An infant arms wide open

2562
02:24:47.600 --> 02:24:49.440
<v Speaker 2>rides on the back of a white horse beneath the

2563
02:24:49.479 --> 02:24:53.799
<v Speaker 2>bright sun, both representing the return of innocence, optimism, and freedom.

2564
02:24:54.040 --> 02:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Our red flag flies nearby, symbolizing renewed passion in the

2565
02:24:57.239 --> 02:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>presence of love. The sun itself looms on the horizon,

2566
02:25:00.440 --> 02:25:03.680
<v Speaker 2>huge and vibrant, representing the card's main message of clarity

2567
02:25:03.760 --> 02:25:07.079
<v Speaker 2>and illumination. A field of sunflowers in the distance reminds

2568
02:25:07.079 --> 02:25:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you that life blooms once again, and so will you.

2569
02:25:09.879 --> 02:25:11.799
<v Speaker 2>There's a sense of relief in this card and a

2570
02:25:11.959 --> 02:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>reminder that every dark knight has a new dawn. I

2571
02:25:14.760 --> 02:25:16.600
<v Speaker 2>would suggest that that dark knight was Paul.

2572
02:25:17.479 --> 02:25:20.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah shit yeah.

2573
02:25:20.920 --> 02:25:21.000
<v Speaker 5>So.

2574
02:25:21.159 --> 02:25:23.840
<v Speaker 2>The spiritual message says you are feeling healthier inside and

2575
02:25:23.879 --> 02:25:27.399
<v Speaker 2>out after overcoming a period of sadness or illness. Oh Sean,

2576
02:25:27.440 --> 02:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>you're coming.

2577
02:25:27.840 --> 02:25:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Over that, yep, yep, trying to man.

2578
02:25:30.479 --> 02:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Consider pursuing some inner child healing work, perhaps by finding

2579
02:25:34.000 --> 02:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>a new passion or engaging in a hobby that you

2580
02:25:36.159 --> 02:25:36.840
<v Speaker 2>once loved.

2581
02:25:37.639 --> 02:25:39.639
<v Speaker 3>There we go the I love the Sun card Man.

2582
02:25:41.200 --> 02:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the upright key meetings are clarity and optimism, which

2583
02:25:44.959 --> 02:25:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I think that if we were to interpret the Bible

2584
02:25:47.840 --> 02:25:50.000
<v Speaker 2>through Jesus's words, we probably would.

2585
02:25:50.319 --> 02:25:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, dude. You know it's definitely a good way

2586
02:25:54.799 --> 02:25:58.440
<v Speaker 3>to live, dude, you know, like love my neighbor and

2587
02:25:58.479 --> 02:25:59.559
<v Speaker 3>you know all of those things.

2588
02:25:59.639 --> 02:26:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Dude, Like I can get down with that. Like I

2589
02:26:02.159 --> 02:26:05.319
<v Speaker 2>feel like I lived that way already, you know, dude,

2590
02:26:05.399 --> 02:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Just imagine I was just thinking about this.

2591
02:26:07.760 --> 02:26:07.959
<v Speaker 3>You know.

2592
02:26:08.239 --> 02:26:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Normally we like to do a meditation that that like

2593
02:26:10.760 --> 02:26:14.239
<v Speaker 2>connects with the message of the show, right, Like you

2594
02:26:14.280 --> 02:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>could imagine doing a meditation that's dedicated to Jesus. Right,

2595
02:26:17.440 --> 02:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>We've we've done it before. Oh yeah, imagine doing one

2596
02:26:20.799 --> 02:26:21.879
<v Speaker 2>dedicated to fucking Paul.

2597
02:26:22.000 --> 02:26:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

2598
02:26:23.079 --> 02:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Like that right there tells you the difference. Would you

2599
02:26:26.799 --> 02:26:28.959
<v Speaker 2>want to meditate on the messages of Paul?

2600
02:26:29.959 --> 02:26:34.040
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm good, dude, you know I'm good. I'm good.

2601
02:26:34.600 --> 02:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Good on that. Yeah, you'd be coming out racist, be

2602
02:26:40.000 --> 02:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>coming out like homophobic, be telling people they need to

2603
02:26:44.440 --> 02:26:45.319
<v Speaker 2>go into slavery.

2604
02:26:45.879 --> 02:26:47.879
<v Speaker 3>You could pray it. Wait all right, you'd.

2605
02:26:47.680 --> 02:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Be telling your wife shut up, I'm the man, right, ridiculous,

2606
02:26:54.120 --> 02:26:56.479
<v Speaker 2>So Anyway, Yeah, that was a fun episode. Hopefully you

2607
02:26:56.520 --> 02:26:58.479
<v Speaker 2>guys enjoyed it. There's a lot more that we can

2608
02:26:58.520 --> 02:27:00.719
<v Speaker 2>really cover, and to be honest, whenever Makeup comes on,

2609
02:27:00.879 --> 02:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>It'll be even more refined and I'm going to have

2610
02:27:03.840 --> 02:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>even more haymakers to throw and I will absolutely bring

2611
02:27:07.280 --> 02:27:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the context. I will absolutely bring everything that I got.

2612
02:27:11.520 --> 02:27:14.959
<v Speaker 2>I did my best with with with what we brought tonight,

2613
02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:18.120
<v Speaker 2>But there is so much more, dude, And to be honest,

2614
02:27:18.120 --> 02:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>we might have to turn this into a series.

2615
02:27:20.280 --> 02:27:20.719
<v Speaker 3>All right.

2616
02:27:21.280 --> 02:27:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so much into it because.

2617
02:27:22.840 --> 02:27:25.719
<v Speaker 3>I definitely for me, there's so much to learn, you know,

2618
02:27:25.799 --> 02:27:28.200
<v Speaker 3>because a lot of this I don't know a whole

2619
02:27:28.239 --> 02:27:30.479
<v Speaker 3>lot about, you know, as far as the Bible and

2620
02:27:30.479 --> 02:27:33.440
<v Speaker 3>everything else, and so this is very, uh, it's enlightening,

2621
02:27:33.639 --> 02:27:36.399
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, and for people, I think even

2622
02:27:36.440 --> 02:27:39.399
<v Speaker 3>for people that do know the Bible like way more

2623
02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:42.239
<v Speaker 3>than I do, or even yourself, it's like they, I

2624
02:27:42.280 --> 02:27:46.079
<v Speaker 3>feel like, have the most to gain from an episode

2625
02:27:46.079 --> 02:27:46.360
<v Speaker 3>like this.

2626
02:27:46.440 --> 02:27:47.239
<v Speaker 2>So I hope so.

2627
02:27:48.319 --> 02:27:51.079
<v Speaker 4>And look, dude, is like the like the fact that

2628
02:27:51.760 --> 02:27:53.600
<v Speaker 4>thirty years old already grew up in the church and

2629
02:27:53.639 --> 02:27:56.760
<v Speaker 4>all that stuff, and I'm barely hearing about these contradictions,

2630
02:27:56.760 --> 02:27:59.600
<v Speaker 4>even though I've already researched different contradictions about this, and

2631
02:27:59.600 --> 02:28:03.239
<v Speaker 4>then at the Bible, I've been research about different contradictions,

2632
02:28:03.799 --> 02:28:06.719
<v Speaker 4>and the fact that I'm only barely hearing about the

2633
02:28:06.760 --> 02:28:11.479
<v Speaker 4>contradictions between Paul and Jesus. It's like mind blowing. And

2634
02:28:11.559 --> 02:28:16.200
<v Speaker 4>it's crazy how the church just revers Paul and his teachings.

2635
02:28:16.639 --> 02:28:19.200
<v Speaker 4>It's the whole insane.

2636
02:28:20.120 --> 02:28:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know. And people have

2637
02:28:23.159 --> 02:28:27.120
<v Speaker 2>tried to make connections. Is Paul actually a demon?

2638
02:28:27.479 --> 02:28:28.000
<v Speaker 6>Is Paul?

2639
02:28:28.200 --> 02:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Actually? This is where it gets interesting because if you remember,

2640
02:28:31.840 --> 02:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>whenever we did the episodes referring to Damon's right yep,

2641
02:28:38.319 --> 02:28:41.479
<v Speaker 2>the old Roman way as referring to.

2642
02:28:43.040 --> 02:28:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Damon.

2643
02:28:44.079 --> 02:28:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what was going on. So whenever, so

2644
02:28:46.399 --> 02:28:50.520
<v Speaker 2>whenever you know Paul is receiving this divine message from

2645
02:28:50.520 --> 02:28:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the clouds, I believe that it's highly possible that he

2646
02:28:55.079 --> 02:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>is referring to his demented higher self mm hmm. And

2647
02:29:01.520 --> 02:29:05.360
<v Speaker 2>and and that's maybe it's possible. And actually some people

2648
02:29:05.719 --> 02:29:09.120
<v Speaker 2>have alluded to this possibility, and this is actually kind

2649
02:29:09.159 --> 02:29:12.799
<v Speaker 2>of crazy, and it checks out. So some people have

2650
02:29:12.959 --> 02:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>said that who Paul saw in the clouds whenever he

2651
02:29:16.600 --> 02:29:20.879
<v Speaker 2>had this uh, this image right of Jesus was that

2652
02:29:21.200 --> 02:29:28.239
<v Speaker 2>he was actually interpreting Old Testament yahweh oh, which does

2653
02:29:28.520 --> 02:29:32.280
<v Speaker 2>check out. And by the way, if anybody goes and

2654
02:29:32.559 --> 02:29:35.959
<v Speaker 2>reads UH from the Nagamadi. I can't remember if it

2655
02:29:36.079 --> 02:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>was the Gospel of Thomas or not, but I believe

2656
02:29:39.879 --> 02:29:43.120
<v Speaker 2>in one of those gospels in the Nagamadi they specifically

2657
02:29:43.159 --> 02:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>call out Paul and they said that he was actually

2658
02:29:47.319 --> 02:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>conversing with the Demiurge, which is crazy.

2659
02:29:52.079 --> 02:29:59.239
<v Speaker 3>It just makes you, Oh.

2660
02:29:59.239 --> 02:30:01.479
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what I say in regards to the connection

2661
02:30:01.559 --> 02:30:04.239
<v Speaker 4>with the narcissism, the Christian nascissism, and then rereacts to

2662
02:30:04.239 --> 02:30:08.120
<v Speaker 4>the teaching the Thomis and everything. It's how he always

2663
02:30:08.120 --> 02:30:10.600
<v Speaker 4>trying to keep it in line with the old horror

2664
02:30:10.719 --> 02:30:13.600
<v Speaker 4>type of stuff in regards to the Demiurge and Yahweh

2665
02:30:13.639 --> 02:30:18.520
<v Speaker 4>being the false God and Jesus coming from saying what

2666
02:30:18.559 --> 02:30:20.079
<v Speaker 4>did he tell you? He told in one of the

2667
02:30:20.159 --> 02:30:22.719
<v Speaker 4>verses he actually told the Pharisees when he went into

2668
02:30:22.760 --> 02:30:25.760
<v Speaker 4>the church and got mad and it started throwing everything out,

2669
02:30:25.840 --> 02:30:28.479
<v Speaker 4>he was like, you guys worshiped the devil. I come

2670
02:30:28.520 --> 02:30:31.559
<v Speaker 4>from the One True God. Meaning like the one true Source,

2671
02:30:31.559 --> 02:30:35.280
<v Speaker 4>and that's what narcissism is, well, right, thieves God, Yeah,

2672
02:30:35.399 --> 02:30:37.799
<v Speaker 4>but God, the Yahweh and everything. He was like the

2673
02:30:37.879 --> 02:30:43.559
<v Speaker 4>lesser creator God, and Jesus came from the higher true source,

2674
02:30:44.200 --> 02:30:47.120
<v Speaker 4>the unknowable true God, and narcissism and everything like that

2675
02:30:47.360 --> 02:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>saying that I come from this God. You guys actually

2676
02:30:51.280 --> 02:30:53.920
<v Speaker 4>worshiped the devil, you Pharisees and this and that and

2677
02:30:53.959 --> 02:30:56.559
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. So it actually does tie in and

2678
02:30:56.639 --> 02:30:59.639
<v Speaker 4>gets more credit to gnosticism and.

2679
02:30:59.639 --> 02:31:02.040
<v Speaker 3>It makes too actually as far as like if it

2680
02:31:02.200 --> 02:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>was the Demiurge that you were worshiping, like the Demiurge

2681
02:31:05.760 --> 02:31:09.440
<v Speaker 3>probably would need a blood sacrifice, you know what I mean,

2682
02:31:09.479 --> 02:31:11.239
<v Speaker 3>if it is like the lesser God.

2683
02:31:12.680 --> 02:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Dude, check this out. So I was like, oh, the

2684
02:31:15.079 --> 02:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>den of these is this this conversation because again I

2685
02:31:18.520 --> 02:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't grow up in this. I'm still learning as I go.

2686
02:31:21.200 --> 02:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not like a church goer. I wasn't you know,

2687
02:31:23.799 --> 02:31:26.120
<v Speaker 2>punished into reading the Bible every time I was naughty

2688
02:31:26.159 --> 02:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. But it says, yes, Jesus called

2689
02:31:30.760 --> 02:31:34.879
<v Speaker 2>the temple a den of thieves or robbers when he

2690
02:31:35.000 --> 02:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>cleansed it directly confronting the corrupt commercial activities that the

2691
02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Pharisees and religious leaders allowed, effectively accusing them and the

2692
02:31:43.319 --> 02:31:46.799
<v Speaker 2>system that they upheld of exploiting people for profit under

2693
02:31:46.840 --> 02:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the guise of worship, turning God's house of prayer into

2694
02:31:50.040 --> 02:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>a marketplace. He applied Old Testament scripture to their actions,

2695
02:31:54.280 --> 02:31:58.159
<v Speaker 2>highlighting how their greed and focus on prestige had corrupted

2696
02:31:58.200 --> 02:31:59.639
<v Speaker 2>the temple's sacred purpose.

2697
02:32:00.760 --> 02:32:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was Paul's people. This is Paul's fucking people, thankly.

2698
02:32:06.840 --> 02:32:08.479
<v Speaker 4>And then the whole thing that Paul is trying to

2699
02:32:08.520 --> 02:32:11.799
<v Speaker 4>do basically basically what you just said, is she's trying

2700
02:32:11.799 --> 02:32:14.760
<v Speaker 4>to get people back into the system of like, Nope,

2701
02:32:14.840 --> 02:32:16.639
<v Speaker 4>you still need us, you still need the church, you

2702
02:32:16.680 --> 02:32:19.600
<v Speaker 4>still need us to stuff and to get you to

2703
02:32:19.760 --> 02:32:22.159
<v Speaker 4>that land of paradise once you die in this and

2704
02:32:22.200 --> 02:32:24.639
<v Speaker 4>that you still need us, instead of people going off

2705
02:32:24.680 --> 02:32:26.200
<v Speaker 4>on their own being like I don't need you anymore.

2706
02:32:26.280 --> 02:32:28.879
<v Speaker 4>I got that connection this and that, and then Paul's

2707
02:32:28.879 --> 02:32:30.920
<v Speaker 4>over here turning it and around like nope, you still

2708
02:32:30.959 --> 02:32:35.319
<v Speaker 4>need us. Still, people giving people the sense of feeling

2709
02:32:35.360 --> 02:32:37.280
<v Speaker 4>that they need to rely on the church and rely

2710
02:32:37.360 --> 02:32:41.200
<v Speaker 4>on them instead of have that connection on their own

2711
02:32:41.239 --> 02:32:41.600
<v Speaker 4>you know.

2712
02:32:42.840 --> 02:32:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's unfortunate, dude. It's a it's a bastardize. It's

2713
02:32:46.399 --> 02:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>an underhanded, sleight of hand way of literally reciprocating Jesus's

2714
02:32:54.239 --> 02:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>teachings like taking it and turning it upside down one

2715
02:32:57.520 --> 02:33:05.879
<v Speaker 2>eighty bro. And this, I believe this is this is

2716
02:33:05.959 --> 02:33:09.879
<v Speaker 2>just unfortunate. It's unfortunate that it has taken two thousand

2717
02:33:09.959 --> 02:33:13.840
<v Speaker 2>plus years for people to get that because and this

2718
02:33:13.879 --> 02:33:16.399
<v Speaker 2>is more. And I'm sure that there have been people

2719
02:33:16.520 --> 02:33:20.719
<v Speaker 2>that have argued about this, but the masses of people

2720
02:33:20.719 --> 02:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>who are Christian have never heard that there was any

2721
02:33:23.120 --> 02:33:25.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of contradiction between Paul and Jesus.

2722
02:33:26.200 --> 02:33:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Right, he was just one of the homies, just a guy.

2723
02:33:29.760 --> 02:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>And actually they whenever they look upon Paul, they look

2724
02:33:32.280 --> 02:33:35.520
<v Speaker 2>upon him like with awe, like, oh my god, this

2725
02:33:35.600 --> 02:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>guy he was the revel later. He literally he was

2726
02:33:40.159 --> 02:33:42.680
<v Speaker 2>so special that he got a message from Jesus on

2727
02:33:42.719 --> 02:33:44.639
<v Speaker 2>the other side, which, by the way, that brings me

2728
02:33:44.680 --> 02:33:46.399
<v Speaker 2>to my last and final point that I just wanted

2729
02:33:46.399 --> 02:33:51.319
<v Speaker 2>to remember. So Jesus dies and he resurrects three days later. Right,

2730
02:33:51.879 --> 02:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>whenever everybody sees him as his rec as his resurrected self.

2731
02:33:55.760 --> 02:33:59.559
<v Speaker 2>They see him not as a spirit. They see him

2732
02:33:59.600 --> 02:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>as less and blood human in the flesh. Okay, Paul

2733
02:34:05.239 --> 02:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't see that. Paul sees an image a spirit of Jesus. Right, So,

2734
02:34:13.280 --> 02:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Jesus didn't show up to Paul in the flesh, never did.

2735
02:34:17.360 --> 02:34:20.680
<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you this, Of all.

2736
02:34:20.479 --> 02:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>The things that Jesus could have done whenever he died

2737
02:34:23.079 --> 02:34:25.479
<v Speaker 2>and resurrected three days later, all the people that he

2738
02:34:25.520 --> 02:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>could have visited, wouldn't it have been a pretty good

2739
02:34:28.879 --> 02:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>idea to go visit Paul instead of just coming to

2740
02:34:33.079 --> 02:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>him in a dream. If he was so important, why

2741
02:34:35.680 --> 02:34:38.040
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you have come back and visited Paul after you've

2742
02:34:38.040 --> 02:34:40.200
<v Speaker 2>already died. But no, you want to come to him

2743
02:34:40.200 --> 02:34:44.559
<v Speaker 2>in a dream. It makes no sense. And by the way,

2744
02:34:45.639 --> 02:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>who was dude? I gotta bring this one up. Whenever

2745
02:34:50.360 --> 02:34:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Paramahansa Yoconanda, what was his shriek de Shwar right, yep,

2746
02:34:54.280 --> 02:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>his master, his spiritual guru or whatever? Right, he was

2747
02:34:58.879 --> 02:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>upstairs in the top room in a hotel. Okay, it

2748
02:35:02.399 --> 02:35:06.399
<v Speaker 2>was after Shri Uka Shar or Sri yuk De Schwar's funeral.

2749
02:35:07.719 --> 02:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Whenever Paramahansa was up in his hotel room. He sees

2750
02:35:13.040 --> 02:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>shri yuk de Schwarz just materialize in his room and

2751
02:35:17.040 --> 02:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>he looks over and he goes, how are you here?

2752
02:35:19.200 --> 02:35:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I was just at your funeral. And he even went

2753
02:35:22.639 --> 02:35:24.399
<v Speaker 2>over and tried to touch him, and it was like,

2754
02:35:24.680 --> 02:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>are you real? Right touched him, said that he was

2755
02:35:28.479 --> 02:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>flesh and blood. Okay, so this is not even the

2756
02:35:31.680 --> 02:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>first time that somebody allegedly resurrects, but whenever they do,

2757
02:35:36.399 --> 02:35:38.200
<v Speaker 2>they come back in the flesh and blood, or at

2758
02:35:38.280 --> 02:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>least giving off the idea that they are right, at

2759
02:35:42.079 --> 02:35:43.479
<v Speaker 2>least convincing you that they are.

2760
02:35:44.680 --> 02:35:44.879
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

2761
02:35:45.799 --> 02:35:50.799
<v Speaker 2>So that's my issue with all of this personally. Anyway,

2762
02:35:51.319 --> 02:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully everybody enjoyed this. Hopefully you got a little bit

2763
02:35:54.040 --> 02:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>out of it.

2764
02:35:54.319 --> 02:35:57.799
<v Speaker 3>Sean, you enjoyed it right, absolutely fun one. Like I said,

2765
02:35:57.840 --> 02:35:59.959
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know it was that deep. I really did.

2766
02:36:00.959 --> 02:36:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty damn crazy. So anyhow, look we're gonna be

2767
02:36:04.680 --> 02:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>doing it again here in a few weeks. You know what,

2768
02:36:06.799 --> 02:36:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I might we might just stick on a topic like this.

2769
02:36:11.360 --> 02:36:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly sure, but I got I got the

2770
02:36:15.239 --> 02:36:17.399
<v Speaker 2>juices flown with this episode. I got a little excited,

2771
02:36:17.680 --> 02:36:20.280
<v Speaker 2>so we might just try and keep on with this

2772
02:36:20.360 --> 02:36:20.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

2773
02:36:20.959 --> 02:36:24.079
<v Speaker 3>It's fun. Ride it.

2774
02:36:24.319 --> 02:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>We're surfing, baby. So with uh, with that being said,

2775
02:36:29.440 --> 02:36:34.639
<v Speaker 2>if Paul and Jesus came here and they taught you anything,

2776
02:36:35.440 --> 02:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>it's that you don't know what you don't know, so

2777
02:36:39.079 --> 02:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll just get weird.

2778
02:37:11.879 --> 02:37:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Man. That was great. It's been a while, you know,

2779
02:37:16.360 --> 02:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>and really kill is really kill it is there. You know,

2780
02:37:18.879 --> 02:37:21.479
<v Speaker 3>when you don't really take it for a week, you know,

2781
02:37:21.520 --> 02:37:24.879
<v Speaker 3>would you probably go back? Oh yes, you really realize

2782
02:37:24.879 --> 02:37:26.000
<v Speaker 3>how much you really needed it.

2783
02:37:26.840 --> 02:37:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, yeah, it's crazy. Like so I got to

2784
02:37:30.120 --> 02:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>this point where I was just you know what, I

2785
02:37:32.719 --> 02:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>got to feeling that, like just with you know, me personally,

2786
02:37:36.600 --> 02:37:38.520
<v Speaker 2>how my life is going and everything. Right now, I

2787
02:37:38.639 --> 02:37:43.559
<v Speaker 2>just feel whole. Yeah, you know, and maybe it's because

2788
02:37:43.559 --> 02:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>of the holiday season or maybe everybody's feeling like that.

2789
02:37:46.559 --> 02:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, just as soon as and as soon as

2790
02:37:50.760 --> 02:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I thought the word whole, so I was I'm wearing

2791
02:37:54.319 --> 02:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the mindfold, right, okay, and I've I've tried. I was

2792
02:37:58.239 --> 02:38:00.879
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep my eyes open the whole time, right, like,

2793
02:38:00.920 --> 02:38:04.799
<v Speaker 2>because it's just darkness anyway, and but I was trying

2794
02:38:04.840 --> 02:38:08.799
<v Speaker 2>to see like what happens whenever I just like shift

2795
02:38:08.879 --> 02:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>my gaze and allow myself to go into a trance

2796
02:38:11.479 --> 02:38:16.479
<v Speaker 2>with my eyes open. And as soon as I thought

2797
02:38:16.479 --> 02:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>that word whole, I'm not even kidding you. It's like

2798
02:38:20.680 --> 02:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I saw a light like a like a like an

2799
02:38:24.799 --> 02:38:29.000
<v Speaker 2>angled light coming down like this, just through this one eye, right,

2800
02:38:29.040 --> 02:38:31.479
<v Speaker 2>that's the only eye I could see it through. And

2801
02:38:31.639 --> 02:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't like a light light. It was almost

2802
02:38:34.200 --> 02:38:39.120
<v Speaker 2>as if like you're seeing light in the dark. And

2803
02:38:39.239 --> 02:38:41.520
<v Speaker 2>but I thought it was really strange that I was

2804
02:38:41.559 --> 02:38:45.159
<v Speaker 2>only able to perceive it with my right eye, because

2805
02:38:45.200 --> 02:38:48.319
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of the meditation, my left eye was

2806
02:38:48.399 --> 02:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>hurting me. And I was like, oh, I wonder if

2807
02:38:51.440 --> 02:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>that's symbolic, you know, like Odin and you know people

2808
02:38:55.639 --> 02:38:58.079
<v Speaker 2>plucking out their eye to receive nosis and all that

2809
02:38:58.159 --> 02:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, which was the left eye and the

2810
02:39:00.079 --> 02:39:04.360
<v Speaker 2>left eye is you know, it's for your your logic,

2811
02:39:04.399 --> 02:39:07.000
<v Speaker 2>it's your left brain, right, So you're sacrificing that in

2812
02:39:07.120 --> 02:39:11.639
<v Speaker 2>order to attain some level of gnosis or enlightenment, right.

2813
02:39:11.879 --> 02:39:15.239
<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, oh, I wonder if I

2814
02:39:15.479 --> 02:39:19.280
<v Speaker 2>come to that conclusion that, like if I'm just seeing

2815
02:39:19.479 --> 02:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>because I've been really trying to interpret the entire world

2816
02:39:22.719 --> 02:39:28.479
<v Speaker 2>every single part of my reality as symbolism, right, like

2817
02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:32.319
<v Speaker 2>everyday instances and just looking at it through symbolism, because

2818
02:39:32.360 --> 02:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>I believe that, you know, reality speaks through us to

2819
02:39:35.399 --> 02:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>through symbolism, and sometimes it's clear and obvious, but sometimes

2820
02:39:38.639 --> 02:39:41.319
<v Speaker 2>you got to decode it, you know. And so I

2821
02:39:41.399 --> 02:39:44.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, well, if everything is symbolism, then

2822
02:39:44.079 --> 02:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I have to look at my left eye hurting as symbolism.

2823
02:39:47.680 --> 02:39:49.600
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, all right, well, now that I

2824
02:39:49.719 --> 02:39:54.959
<v Speaker 2>know that, maybe my my hurting of my eye will

2825
02:39:54.959 --> 02:39:58.120
<v Speaker 2>go away. And it did, and then I see the

2826
02:39:58.159 --> 02:40:00.639
<v Speaker 2>light with it. Du It was a weird, weird shit

2827
02:40:00.719 --> 02:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>happens in meditation and I love it.

2828
02:40:02.639 --> 02:40:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude. The light is the best when you when

2829
02:40:05.079 --> 02:40:07.159
<v Speaker 3>you have something like that where it's like, well what

2830
02:40:07.200 --> 02:40:09.600
<v Speaker 3>the was that? Yeah, Like it's obvious. It's not like

2831
02:40:09.719 --> 02:40:13.239
<v Speaker 3>a you know, a very subtle thing that happens. It's

2832
02:40:13.280 --> 02:40:15.840
<v Speaker 3>like very obvious almost to the point where it like

2833
02:40:15.920 --> 02:40:18.719
<v Speaker 3>startles you. You know what. That that's the best shit.

2834
02:40:18.920 --> 02:40:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And just imagine like one light shining down onto a

2835
02:40:22.079 --> 02:40:25.159
<v Speaker 2>stage was kind of like an image of light. Yeah,

2836
02:40:25.200 --> 02:40:27.799
<v Speaker 2>like a spotlight onto a stage almost mm hmm.

2837
02:40:28.040 --> 02:40:30.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I've definitely had that happen before. That's that's

2838
02:40:31.000 --> 02:40:35.079
<v Speaker 3>the good ship right there. Yeah. It's funny because for me,

2839
02:40:35.159 --> 02:40:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I felt like it was like a mind over matter

2840
02:40:37.639 --> 02:40:39.520
<v Speaker 3>type of thing. Because I was sitting there. I can

2841
02:40:39.600 --> 02:40:42.959
<v Speaker 3>feel myself like having to cough, and I I was like,

2842
02:40:43.000 --> 02:40:45.200
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm gonna not cough. I ended up

2843
02:40:45.200 --> 02:40:48.120
<v Speaker 3>coughing a couple of times. But it was a practice

2844
02:40:48.120 --> 02:40:51.559
<v Speaker 3>of mind over matter, trying to allow the mind to

2845
02:40:51.559 --> 02:40:53.760
<v Speaker 3>to tell the body what it's gonna do and what

2846
02:40:53.840 --> 02:40:56.840
<v Speaker 3>it's not gonna do. But it was crazy though, because

2847
02:40:57.600 --> 02:40:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my U my brother in law's room and

2848
02:40:59.559 --> 02:41:01.760
<v Speaker 3>he's got this mirror. It's like, you know, the closet

2849
02:41:01.799 --> 02:41:05.360
<v Speaker 3>doors are just mirrors basically, and so it's like a

2850
02:41:05.360 --> 02:41:09.239
<v Speaker 3>full lengked mirror. But I kind of forgot where I was,

2851
02:41:09.440 --> 02:41:11.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, in the meditation. So when I came back

2852
02:41:11.399 --> 02:41:13.719
<v Speaker 3>out this mirror that's right next to me, it looked

2853
02:41:13.719 --> 02:41:15.760
<v Speaker 3>like somebody was sitting next to me. It was just

2854
02:41:15.799 --> 02:41:17.559
<v Speaker 3>my reflection, you know. But I was like, oh shit,

2855
02:41:17.840 --> 02:41:20.639
<v Speaker 3>they get startled me. Yeah, but like I just totally

2856
02:41:20.639 --> 02:41:23.680
<v Speaker 3>forgot where I was for a bit when't even thinking

2857
02:41:23.680 --> 02:41:28.319
<v Speaker 3>about it. Yeah, yeah, dude, this uh, this cold or

2858
02:41:28.360 --> 02:41:30.799
<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. I got fucking bad, you know, So,

2859
02:41:31.000 --> 02:41:33.559
<v Speaker 3>like that was I hope. I I think I think

2860
02:41:33.559 --> 02:41:35.360
<v Speaker 3>it actually probably worked out pretty good. You know. I

2861
02:41:35.440 --> 02:41:37.920
<v Speaker 3>just kind of said less and just let you kind

2862
02:41:37.920 --> 02:41:40.159
<v Speaker 3>of go off, you know, and do your do your thing.

2863
02:41:40.280 --> 02:41:43.639
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, man, that was h I needed that meditation,

2864
02:41:43.760 --> 02:41:47.079
<v Speaker 3>though I didn't realize because I haven't really been meditating,

2865
02:41:47.600 --> 02:41:50.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, as much as I with traveling and everything else,

2866
02:41:50.799 --> 02:41:52.600
<v Speaker 3>and so I really needed that.

2867
02:41:53.159 --> 02:41:58.879
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, you know, I think that a lot

2868
02:41:58.879 --> 02:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>of times, whenever we get sick, it's our body's way

2869
02:42:02.360 --> 02:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>of saying that we didn't receive the hints that we

2870
02:42:05.239 --> 02:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>needed to take a break. Yeah, and so it's now

2871
02:42:07.920 --> 02:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>forcing you to take a break.

2872
02:42:09.680 --> 02:42:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what it felt like. It really did.

2873
02:42:12.360 --> 02:42:13.959
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes I mean, you you just got to take

2874
02:42:13.959 --> 02:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>heed of that and just listen to it. So whenever

2875
02:42:16.000 --> 02:42:17.879
<v Speaker 2>you said because we were we were supposed to be

2876
02:42:17.879 --> 02:42:20.879
<v Speaker 2>shooting this whole week, and you were like, man, I'm

2877
02:42:20.920 --> 02:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>just I'm getting sick, and I'm like, okay, that's all

2878
02:42:23.719 --> 02:42:26.319
<v Speaker 2>the time that I need. You know that as soon

2879
02:42:26.360 --> 02:42:27.959
<v Speaker 2>as you're starting to get sick, I'm like, all right,

2880
02:42:28.000 --> 02:42:30.799
<v Speaker 2>well that that means that it's time for a break then, yeah,

2881
02:42:30.840 --> 02:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>and it was good timing anyway.

2882
02:42:32.040 --> 02:42:35.280
<v Speaker 8>It was the holidays, and you know, for sure, for sure,

2883
02:42:35.280 --> 02:42:37.920
<v Speaker 8>I went home from work that day early, like I

2884
02:42:37.959 --> 02:42:39.959
<v Speaker 8>was only at work for like an hour and thirty

2885
02:42:40.000 --> 02:42:42.559
<v Speaker 8>minutes or something like that, and I went home and

2886
02:42:42.639 --> 02:42:45.000
<v Speaker 8>I went to sleep until like three thirty of the afternoon,

2887
02:42:45.639 --> 02:42:47.440
<v Speaker 8>just knocked out, Like my body was just like you

2888
02:42:47.440 --> 02:42:47.920
<v Speaker 8>need rest.

2889
02:42:48.600 --> 02:42:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but between working full time and doing this and

2890
02:42:52.440 --> 02:42:54.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm taking care of the kids and yeah,

2891
02:42:54.719 --> 02:42:57.360
<v Speaker 3>it's been a lot, you know, so sometimes you got

2892
02:42:57.399 --> 02:42:58.440
<v Speaker 3>to take a little break.

2893
02:42:58.760 --> 02:43:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, Yeah, yeah, just tap out from reality every

2894
02:43:01.680 --> 02:43:02.159
<v Speaker 2>so often.

2895
02:43:02.360 --> 02:43:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, for sure, you know, but this is a

2896
02:43:04.799 --> 02:43:06.600
<v Speaker 3>great episode, dude. I feel like a lot of people

2897
02:43:06.680 --> 02:43:08.280
<v Speaker 3>are going to get something out of it, for sure,

2898
02:43:08.399 --> 02:43:10.159
<v Speaker 3>Like they're going to get exactly what they needed from

2899
02:43:10.159 --> 02:43:14.239
<v Speaker 3>this episode. Hopefully they you know, they're okay with their

2900
02:43:14.280 --> 02:43:16.639
<v Speaker 3>their beliefs being challenged a little bit. I think that's

2901
02:43:16.680 --> 02:43:19.639
<v Speaker 3>where people get held up, you know that Reverend Ike

2902
02:43:19.760 --> 02:43:21.959
<v Speaker 3>was saying, like the religious people are the ones that

2903
02:43:22.000 --> 02:43:25.120
<v Speaker 3>really get they get held up the most, you know,

2904
02:43:25.159 --> 02:43:27.799
<v Speaker 3>because they don't really want to challenge what they already

2905
02:43:29.159 --> 02:43:31.319
<v Speaker 3>tend to believe in and everything else. And so as

2906
02:43:31.360 --> 02:43:34.920
<v Speaker 3>long as they're able to repent, you know, and be

2907
02:43:35.000 --> 02:43:39.079
<v Speaker 3>open to changing their mind and understanding things a little

2908
02:43:39.120 --> 02:43:42.200
<v Speaker 3>bit clearer better or whatever, you know, I think that's

2909
02:43:42.280 --> 02:43:44.520
<v Speaker 3>that's really all that we're trying to get out here.

2910
02:43:44.600 --> 02:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, you think about it. Even Jesus was

2911
02:43:47.799 --> 02:43:52.639
<v Speaker 2>telling the Pharisees to repent. Change your mind, Yeah, have

2912
02:43:52.680 --> 02:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>a change within your mind. These are the Pharisees that

2913
02:43:56.079 --> 02:43:58.479
<v Speaker 2>were the teachers. These were the ones that was telling

2914
02:43:58.520 --> 02:44:00.360
<v Speaker 2>everybody else what to do and how to live by

2915
02:44:00.399 --> 02:44:02.319
<v Speaker 2>the law and how to live by the commandments and

2916
02:44:02.680 --> 02:44:05.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, how to live like a good Jew and whatnot. Right,

2917
02:44:06.200 --> 02:44:11.120
<v Speaker 2>He's telling them, change your fucking mind, the brightest of

2918
02:44:11.200 --> 02:44:14.479
<v Speaker 2>the bright within the Jewish sector. Change your mind.

2919
02:44:14.840 --> 02:44:17.200
<v Speaker 3>That's all it takes, man, because otherwise you're just kind

2920
02:44:17.200 --> 02:44:19.600
<v Speaker 3>of stuck in that reality that you've been in for

2921
02:44:19.680 --> 02:44:22.399
<v Speaker 3>a long time. That's just in that rut, you know,

2922
02:44:22.479 --> 02:44:24.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, why is reality like this? Or why

2923
02:44:25.000 --> 02:44:28.159
<v Speaker 3>is my world this way? It's like, I don't think

2924
02:44:28.159 --> 02:44:32.000
<v Speaker 3>it's the world like sometimes, it's just you. It's the

2925
02:44:32.000 --> 02:44:33.000
<v Speaker 3>way you look at things.

2926
02:44:33.600 --> 02:44:33.840
<v Speaker 5>Paul.

2927
02:44:34.399 --> 02:44:35.879
<v Speaker 2>Paul put everybody under a spell.

2928
02:44:36.360 --> 02:44:40.040
<v Speaker 3>That's it. Yeah, big time. That's it. That's clear. That's clear.

2929
02:44:40.239 --> 02:44:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea, dude, I really did. So it's

2930
02:44:43.319 --> 02:44:44.200
<v Speaker 3>where it all starts.

2931
02:44:44.239 --> 02:44:47.159
<v Speaker 2>That's where the churches began, that's where the crusades begin.

2932
02:44:47.639 --> 02:44:51.000
<v Speaker 2>That's whenever division began. Think about it, like, if you

2933
02:44:51.120 --> 02:44:53.639
<v Speaker 2>don't believe what I believe, then I believe that the

2934
02:44:53.840 --> 02:44:57.040
<v Speaker 2>absolute worst thing that could ever happen to anybody is

2935
02:44:57.040 --> 02:44:58.159
<v Speaker 2>going to happen to you.

2936
02:44:59.159 --> 02:45:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Think about the dude. Yep, that's just one of them.

2937
02:45:03.600 --> 02:45:06.319
<v Speaker 3>That's just one form of division that that we know

2938
02:45:06.559 --> 02:45:08.600
<v Speaker 3>up in the world, you know what I mean, it's

2939
02:45:08.639 --> 02:45:11.799
<v Speaker 3>all over the place, all different religions, and not even

2940
02:45:11.879 --> 02:45:15.399
<v Speaker 3>just religion, it's just across the board, you know. And

2941
02:45:15.440 --> 02:45:17.959
<v Speaker 3>so once people start to really realize that we are

2942
02:45:18.120 --> 02:45:21.959
<v Speaker 3>just one you know, no, no, these people are God's people,

2943
02:45:22.040 --> 02:45:25.719
<v Speaker 3>or these people are less than or I mean, that's

2944
02:45:25.760 --> 02:45:28.239
<v Speaker 3>just so fucking backwards, dude, And I just don't fucking

2945
02:45:28.280 --> 02:45:31.079
<v Speaker 3>get it. I don't get it. But I wasn't brought

2946
02:45:31.120 --> 02:45:34.399
<v Speaker 3>up in a certain you know, lifestyle or belief system

2947
02:45:34.440 --> 02:45:36.760
<v Speaker 3>that kind of encourage that.

2948
02:45:37.159 --> 02:45:40.280
<v Speaker 2>No, you know, yeah, thankfully, Yeah, we didn't have to

2949
02:45:40.280 --> 02:45:44.079
<v Speaker 2>deconstruct anything because we were never now you know, never yeah, constructed,

2950
02:45:46.000 --> 02:45:48.360
<v Speaker 2>And I'm actually pissed that I didn't bring this up.

2951
02:45:48.360 --> 02:45:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to say this in the actual episode because

2952
02:45:51.319 --> 02:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many people actually listened to after

2953
02:45:53.000 --> 02:45:56.719
<v Speaker 2>the meditation, But I wanted to say this because what

2954
02:45:56.840 --> 02:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I was alluding to, as far as the the Cathar

2955
02:46:02.319 --> 02:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>killings and all that kind of stuff, how that wouldn't

2956
02:46:05.280 --> 02:46:08.239
<v Speaker 2>have happened if it wasn't for Paul's teachings. You know

2957
02:46:08.840 --> 02:46:12.280
<v Speaker 2>what else wouldn't have happened, and it couldn't have happened

2958
02:46:12.520 --> 02:46:15.079
<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't for Pause teachings. And I'm not one

2959
02:46:15.120 --> 02:46:18.680
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent sure, but I think I'm right on this. Okay,

2960
02:46:18.760 --> 02:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't have had Joseph Smith create Mormonism. Oh, you

2961
02:46:23.760 --> 02:46:28.879
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have had Mohammad create Islam, because these are people

2962
02:46:28.959 --> 02:46:32.799
<v Speaker 2>who believe that they receive divine message from God on

2963
02:46:32.840 --> 02:46:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the other.

2964
02:46:33.280 --> 02:46:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Side, and think about it, you could do it well.

2965
02:46:37.239 --> 02:46:40.760
<v Speaker 2>And even think about it even more like, honestly, the

2966
02:46:41.680 --> 02:46:45.600
<v Speaker 2>true beginning of all of this starts with Moses, because

2967
02:46:45.639 --> 02:46:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Moses was the first one that met God even before Jesus, right,

2968
02:46:50.639 --> 02:46:53.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know, of course that was because of what

2969
02:46:53.639 --> 02:46:56.600
<v Speaker 2>was it like the acacia tree, which is literally the

2970
02:46:56.639 --> 02:47:01.079
<v Speaker 2>most potent plant in that area in in Israel. I

2971
02:47:01.120 --> 02:47:04.079
<v Speaker 2>believe it was Jerusalem somewhere around there. It is the

2972
02:47:04.079 --> 02:47:07.159
<v Speaker 2>most potent plant that has the most d MT on

2973
02:47:07.200 --> 02:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that whole plot of land. And it was burning, and

2974
02:47:10.639 --> 02:47:14.239
<v Speaker 2>his lungs tooken like full full of smoke.

2975
02:47:14.319 --> 02:47:15.520
<v Speaker 3>He blasted off.

2976
02:47:16.879 --> 02:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably, and he decided, and he decided to turn

2977
02:47:21.840 --> 02:47:25.120
<v Speaker 2>what he learned from that DMT trip into a lesson

2978
02:47:25.200 --> 02:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>for the world.

2979
02:47:26.440 --> 02:47:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Imagine the maes.

2980
02:47:30.159 --> 02:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>And think about it even more so too, I mean,

2981
02:47:32.760 --> 02:47:37.559
<v Speaker 2>to be honest my opinion, that's like, I think that

2982
02:47:37.600 --> 02:47:43.639
<v Speaker 2>what was really going on is somebody found the old

2983
02:47:43.680 --> 02:47:48.319
<v Speaker 2>ways and wanted to reinterpret and guide the masses into

2984
02:47:48.360 --> 02:47:51.280
<v Speaker 2>a new way. I think that that's what was going on.

2985
02:47:51.360 --> 02:47:55.040
<v Speaker 2>The more we learn about Egyptian mythology, the more we

2986
02:47:55.120 --> 02:47:58.639
<v Speaker 2>learn about Remember when we talked about the goddess from

2987
02:47:58.680 --> 02:48:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Palestine who had the apple, right, and the apple was

2988
02:48:02.799 --> 02:48:06.639
<v Speaker 2>the initiation to be able to walk through the pillars essentially, Yeah, right,

2989
02:48:07.879 --> 02:48:13.120
<v Speaker 2>that was Asherah who was the goddess of Palestine during

2990
02:48:13.120 --> 02:48:13.600
<v Speaker 2>that time.

2991
02:48:13.920 --> 02:48:14.280
<v Speaker 3>M hm.

2992
02:48:14.840 --> 02:48:20.520
<v Speaker 2>That was thousands of years before Moses and the Jews, right,

2993
02:48:21.760 --> 02:48:23.879
<v Speaker 2>they took that story. So I don't even think any

2994
02:48:23.920 --> 02:48:27.399
<v Speaker 2>of this is original. It's just a repackaging of everything.

2995
02:48:27.440 --> 02:48:28.319
<v Speaker 2>It's a rebranding.

2996
02:48:28.799 --> 02:48:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a new branding, a new interpretation, a new upbringing

2997
02:48:33.159 --> 02:48:36.040
<v Speaker 3>of whatever it is they want to happen. You know,

2998
02:48:36.280 --> 02:48:37.319
<v Speaker 3>you control the masses.

2999
02:48:37.639 --> 02:48:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just it's just crazy, dude. So anyway, yeah,

3000
02:48:41.440 --> 02:48:45.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like, this has caused me to go heavily inside,

3001
02:48:46.000 --> 02:48:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, all right, would I receive any of

3002
02:48:50.280 --> 02:48:53.319
<v Speaker 2>these kind of messages so much so that I need

3003
02:48:53.319 --> 02:48:55.239
<v Speaker 2>to tell the entire world and to have a book

3004
02:48:55.239 --> 02:48:59.159
<v Speaker 2>written about it. I'm like, you have to really believe

3005
02:48:59.239 --> 02:49:02.600
<v Speaker 2>that you are someone, you know what I'm saying, Someone

3006
02:49:02.719 --> 02:49:07.360
<v Speaker 2>apart from everyone else, someone better than everybody else.

3007
02:49:08.360 --> 02:49:11.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, just look at like, for instance, the newest

3008
02:49:11.559 --> 02:49:16.200
<v Speaker 4>religion on the block, Scientology started looking into that recently, Scientology.

3009
02:49:16.239 --> 02:49:17.040
<v Speaker 3>They believe that.

3010
02:49:17.079 --> 02:49:20.040
<v Speaker 4>There's these little orbs of energy that's around you and

3011
02:49:20.760 --> 02:49:23.840
<v Speaker 4>that they are causing you miserable and your ailments and

3012
02:49:23.920 --> 02:49:25.600
<v Speaker 4>all this stuff, and that I'm like, how is that

3013
02:49:25.639 --> 02:49:30.200
<v Speaker 4>any different from a fucking demon Christianity and all that shit.

3014
02:49:30.280 --> 02:49:33.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, it didn't give a different name, different fancy

3015
02:49:33.200 --> 02:49:35.040
<v Speaker 4>little name and all this this, and then it's just

3016
02:49:35.079 --> 02:49:38.159
<v Speaker 4>the repackaging it. You know, that's the newest religion on

3017
02:49:38.200 --> 02:49:41.760
<v Speaker 4>the block, basically, and they just took all that mythology

3018
02:49:41.760 --> 02:49:44.559
<v Speaker 4>in this and then change the names this here and there,

3019
02:49:45.159 --> 02:49:48.120
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, look into that, the scientology and all that shit,

3020
02:49:48.159 --> 02:49:51.760
<v Speaker 4>and it's just insane how that's just repackaged different names,

3021
02:49:51.799 --> 02:49:54.120
<v Speaker 4>this and that. But it's the same concept.

3022
02:49:53.879 --> 02:49:56.159
<v Speaker 2>All of it. All of it is repackaged. Even what's

3023
02:49:56.159 --> 02:49:58.600
<v Speaker 2>going on right now. You said scientology was the newest

3024
02:49:58.600 --> 02:50:01.159
<v Speaker 2>one on the block. How about the absolute newest one

3025
02:50:01.159 --> 02:50:04.239
<v Speaker 2>on the block, which is called spiralism. Have you heard

3026
02:50:04.239 --> 02:50:12.079
<v Speaker 2>of this, dude? These people are spiralism. Yes, it is

3027
02:50:12.120 --> 02:50:16.440
<v Speaker 2>a relatively new thing in which people are worshiping AI

3028
02:50:16.959 --> 02:50:21.760
<v Speaker 2>to where they are receiving divine revelation and prophecy through

3029
02:50:21.920 --> 02:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>their god called chat gp fucking tea.

3030
02:50:24.959 --> 02:50:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. People were legiting about this being a

3031
02:50:28.120 --> 02:50:30.600
<v Speaker 3>thing that people were gonna start doing. I didn't really

3032
02:50:30.959 --> 02:50:33.840
<v Speaker 3>take any of that seriously. I'm for sure, no way,

3033
02:50:34.120 --> 02:50:36.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, but people are gonna do what they what

3034
02:50:36.520 --> 02:50:38.200
<v Speaker 3>they do, you know, Dune.

3035
02:50:38.200 --> 02:50:43.040
<v Speaker 2>If it's like humans are bound like lower and I'll

3036
02:50:43.040 --> 02:50:46.360
<v Speaker 2>just say it fucking lower level humans are worried about

3037
02:50:46.399 --> 02:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>like few things in their life. I want to eat,

3038
02:50:50.479 --> 02:50:53.879
<v Speaker 2>I want to drink, I want to sleep, I want

3039
02:50:53.879 --> 02:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to fuck, and I want to worship, right, Like those

3040
02:50:56.239 --> 02:50:58.680
<v Speaker 2>are the main things that people are worried about. And

3041
02:50:59.040 --> 02:51:02.280
<v Speaker 2>whenever I say worship, I just mean like anything spiritual

3042
02:51:02.319 --> 02:51:05.799
<v Speaker 2>really just looking for some kind of answer in that way.

3043
02:51:06.159 --> 02:51:09.440
<v Speaker 2>And I think, well, you can't eat AI, you can't

3044
02:51:09.440 --> 02:51:13.879
<v Speaker 2>sleep on AI, you can't drink AI, can't fuck AI. Well,

3045
02:51:14.399 --> 02:51:17.559
<v Speaker 2>nowadays I think you might be able to get it's

3046
02:51:17.600 --> 02:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>getting closer, but you can worship it, you know. And

3047
02:51:21.959 --> 02:51:25.280
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know, dude, if you can find a way,

3048
02:51:25.319 --> 02:51:26.079
<v Speaker 2>you find a way.

3049
02:51:26.360 --> 02:51:29.840
<v Speaker 3>You know. That's like say, just just go inWORD, you

3050
02:51:29.879 --> 02:51:32.120
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. That's pretty pretty reliable, I think.

3051
02:51:32.440 --> 02:51:34.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, like you see where the pain is, or

3052
02:51:34.200 --> 02:51:37.000
<v Speaker 3>you see where the obstacles are, you see the things

3053
02:51:37.000 --> 02:51:38.680
<v Speaker 3>that triggered you, You see that, you know what I mean,

3054
02:51:38.719 --> 02:51:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Like it's all in there. You know, you go on

3055
02:51:41.319 --> 02:51:44.399
<v Speaker 3>in the world and and the world will will mirror

3056
02:51:44.719 --> 02:51:46.920
<v Speaker 3>that back to you. It'll let you know you know,

3057
02:51:46.959 --> 02:51:49.559
<v Speaker 3>what's what's ailing you, what's bothering you about what you

3058
02:51:49.840 --> 02:51:51.920
<v Speaker 3>experience and so like, it's all right there.

3059
02:51:52.280 --> 02:51:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Dude, as soon as you start worshiping and I and

3060
02:51:54.840 --> 02:51:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean this in a selfish kind of way,

3061
02:51:58.360 --> 02:52:02.879
<v Speaker 2>so hopefully nobody doesn't take this way. If you worship

3062
02:52:03.000 --> 02:52:07.520
<v Speaker 2>anything outside yourself, you're doing it wrong. I'm not saying

3063
02:52:07.559 --> 02:52:10.879
<v Speaker 2>to worship yourself. What I'm saying is is exactly what

3064
02:52:11.520 --> 02:52:15.159
<v Speaker 2>even the Egyptians were saying back in the day whenever

3065
02:52:15.200 --> 02:52:18.959
<v Speaker 2>they inscribed in one of the temple pyramids, and in

3066
02:52:19.000 --> 02:52:22.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the pyramids, one of the inscriptions was, when

3067
02:52:22.040 --> 02:52:27.159
<v Speaker 2>you know thyself, you will know all the gods, dude,

3068
02:52:27.200 --> 02:52:29.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's all in here. It's not out there. It's

3069
02:52:29.719 --> 02:52:31.159
<v Speaker 2>not in the clouds, it's not in the sky, it's

3070
02:52:31.159 --> 02:52:35.680
<v Speaker 2>not sitting on Pluto. You know, Like it's all you're

3071
02:52:36.319 --> 02:52:39.200
<v Speaker 2>that's that's in you.

3072
02:52:39.200 --> 02:52:41.319
<v Speaker 3>You think about everybody, You'll get it, you know.

3073
02:52:41.600 --> 02:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you think about every emotion that you everything

3074
02:52:45.040 --> 02:52:49.399
<v Speaker 2>that you have ever experienced. You've experienced it internally, you

3075
02:52:49.440 --> 02:52:52.159
<v Speaker 2>have felt it internally, you thought about it internally, you

3076
02:52:52.239 --> 02:52:56.600
<v Speaker 2>manifested the emotions from that thing internally. I was just

3077
02:52:56.680 --> 02:52:59.799
<v Speaker 2>having this conversation actually because we went on a like

3078
02:53:00.520 --> 02:53:02.360
<v Speaker 2>from where am I so we're at my sister's house.

3079
02:53:02.360 --> 02:53:04.280
<v Speaker 2>And from where my sister lives is like an hour

3080
02:53:04.360 --> 02:53:05.799
<v Speaker 2>away from New Orleans. So we went to go to

3081
02:53:05.840 --> 02:53:08.520
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans today, and so my sister was in the car,

3082
02:53:08.639 --> 02:53:10.639
<v Speaker 2>both my parents and all the kids and everybody was

3083
02:53:10.639 --> 02:53:14.559
<v Speaker 2>in the car, and I was trying to explain to them, essentially, like,

3084
02:53:15.479 --> 02:53:17.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, my view of the world in a sense.

3085
02:53:19.040 --> 02:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and I always try and tell

3086
02:53:21.280 --> 02:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>this to everybody, really, like the easiest way for me

3087
02:53:23.799 --> 02:53:27.159
<v Speaker 2>to try to explain it is, all right, whenever you're

3088
02:53:27.200 --> 02:53:30.760
<v Speaker 2>inside a dream, every single person and every single thing

3089
02:53:30.760 --> 02:53:32.879
<v Speaker 2>that is happening in that dream is nothing more than

3090
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<v Speaker 2>just a projection of yourself. There is no external people

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<v Speaker 2>that is in that dream. Your your grandma isn't actually

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<v Speaker 2>visiting you. I mean, you might be, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know what we don't know, but let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say that it's all just a projection of yourself. If

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's going on within a dream, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think this reality is?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even saying that we're the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>are projecting it, but what if the mind that was

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<v Speaker 2>creating that dream is in side a more infinite mind

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<v Speaker 2>that is creating this reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean that's just you're just talking

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<v Speaker 3>about consciousness itself.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's it, just dreaming itself into existence.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, yeah like it.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, Doug said, fucking Doug, Doug goes keep that

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<v Speaker 2>Christian echo chamber going. Hey, look if if if the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible was full of nothing but Jesus talk, you can

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<v Speaker 2>call me a Christian. I hain't got nothing against what

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus was trying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you're living that way and you're actually

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<v Speaker 3>doing those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Call me a follower of Jesus, a follower of Buddha,

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<v Speaker 2>a follower of you know, Shriek Deschar yep, yep, all

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<v Speaker 2>the great, all the great teachers of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, I'm sure this is going to ruffle some feathers,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully it does. That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Is uncomfortable, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fun sometimes, it is not all the time always.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, all right, well, let's beat it and we will. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the next Life show is gonna be on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday again. All right, we'll talk about it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>entirely sure about that I'm not for sure about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about it, but it's either gonna be probably

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday or Friday next week.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, the one we love you, we'll see on.

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<v Speaker 3>The flip side.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine what would it happened if we had in the

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<v Speaker 1>tract and the magic we had back when we couldn't fathom,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a fantasy, not with the vanity.

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<v Speaker 6>Not the way it was back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So I grabbed my pan and write it down like

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<v Speaker 1>a scripture. Missed the miss making hits for the Misfits.

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<v Speaker 1>The show with You Don't Know What you Don't Know?

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<v Speaker 1>When it's on again with Shawn and Johnathan

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<v Speaker 3>H
