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Good evening, true crime fans, 30 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.519 This is your host, Dan Zupanski, for the program True Murder, 31 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:54.400 the most shocking killers in true crime history and the 32 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.760 authors that have written about them. Today, We're going to 33 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:00.799 have a special program because I'm going to be appearing 34 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:05.400 on crime Beat on the Artist's First Radio Network with 35 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.360 hosts Will Herb and true crime bestselling author Ron Chepsik, 36 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:13.360 who has appeared on the program. The title of the 37 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.199 program is The Serial Killer and where we'll be discussing 38 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:19.039 my book Trophy Kill, The Shall We Dance Murder, and 39 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.800 the Mind of the serial Killer. On the eve of 40 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.520 the Crime Beat program, I hope that I hope you 41 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.879 will tune in for this will be the very first 42 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:32.520 time that I will be reading excerpts of Sydney Tearhuse's 43 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:37.400 incredibly shocking letters that specifically pertain to serial murder. This 44 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:40.000 is not for the faint of heart. These letters were 45 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.000 the crucial evidence at trial and are the most shocking 46 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:47.199 revelations ever written. I guarantee it. So if you're still 47 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:52.280 interested in listening and want to stay tuned, please brace yourself. 48 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:56.000 This episode is called The Serial Killer, Sydney Tear Hues 49 00:02:56.520 --> 00:03:00.639 and Trophy Kill. First off, I just want to tell 50 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:03.840 you about upcoming shows. Next week, I'm going to have 51 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.800 an encore performance, so I think it's appropriate. The Casey 52 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:11.759 Anthony case and Kaylee Anthony, the victim obviously has garnered 53 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:16.120 incredible attention in America and throughout the world. I, however, 54 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.919 have not done many programs, but if people are fans 55 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:23.759 of this program, they'll know that I interviewed Diane Fanning, 56 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:26.039 one of the best true crime writers in America today, 57 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.759 and she had written a book previous to this trial, 58 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.719 which is very unusual. As most true crime fans know, 59 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:35.360 most books do not come out till after the trial 60 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:41.159 has been concluded. Saint Martin's press decided felt it necessary 61 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:45.719 or worthy and warranted writing a book before the trial 62 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.319 even occurred. Now, for those that say, well, how could 63 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.840 you write a book without the trial occurring? You can 64 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.280 get the goods without the hysteria of CNN and Nancy 65 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.840 Grace and some of these people, and speculation, the endless 66 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.439 speculation of what will happen, and legal anlumly say this, 67 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:04.919 and legal analysts say that at least Diane, Diane Fanning 68 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.360 has written a book I believe the definitive book regardless 69 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:13.240 of the trial, because it does tell the story without 70 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.720 the bias and the speculation, and without the hysterics and 71 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.319 ranting and raving about what such a bad mother she was. 72 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:24.279 So it comes from a seasoned journalist, a true crime 73 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.639 best selling author, and a fine author at that, Diane Fanning. 74 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.079 And next week we'll have an encore performance of Mummies 75 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:36.680 Girl from last October twenty ten, and so we will 76 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:42.639 tune in for that encore performance on Core program. After 77 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.759 that we are going to have our Barry Flowers. Is 78 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:51.399 the first time we've had Detroit Warren journalist, noted award 79 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:58.480 winning journalist and noted ripperologist are Barry Flowers with his 80 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:03.519 incredible book Slave Masters, which was originally released in nineteen 81 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:05.480 ninety six and I guess did so well that they 82 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:10.480 re released it again ebook form. So anyway, we're going 83 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:12.240 to be talking about that and get an opportunity to 84 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.000 speak with our Berry Flowers. If you do get a 85 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:19.439 chance look at his vast incredible background of varied stories 86 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:24.920 and his journalism and also his books that he's written, 87 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:28.560 both fictional and true crime and nonfiction. After that, we 88 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:33.240 have the pleasure of having Anthony di Stefano back onto 89 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.879 the program. He has written King of the Godfathers, and 90 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:41.000 we interviewed him regarding that incredible book about the mob 91 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:46.360 New York, New York City mob American mobsters he has. 92 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:53.040 He's another noted journalist with incredible true crime pedigree and background, 93 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.360 and we're going to be talking about his latest book 94 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:59.560 called Mob Killer. And I'll just tell you, I'll give 95 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.759 you a little bit on the Mob Killer. He dissolved 96 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.120 the bodies of some of his victims and acid and 97 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.360 poured them down the sewer. He hung grizzly souvenirs on 98 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:13.959 nails in his junkyard. Charles Carneglia was a stone cold 99 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.959 killer who fell in with the bloodthirsty John Gaudy crew. 100 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:20.000 As the infamous crime family rose to power with their 101 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:24.600 murderous trail of sex, jealousy, greed and revenge, Carnelagia rose 102 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.639 with them. This is the horror firing story of a 103 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.879 misfit who fit perfectly into the New York mafia. In 104 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:35.519 a horror harrowing journey inside a ruthless criminal underworld, Pulitzer 105 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:40.959 Prize winning reporter Anthony M. Di Stefano chronicles one man's 106 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.279 life in a world of depraved acts of violence and 107 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.800 the horrors that went with being a member of the 108 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:51.480 Gambino family. This has been called thrilling American Crime Writing 109 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:56.759 by Jimmy Breslin. This is not a program to be missed. 110 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.040 It's a little bit out of the norm for me 111 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.839 to do mob stories, but when you have the caliber 112 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:09.360 of journalists, investigative journalist and true crime author like Anthony M. DiStefano, 113 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.600 you should tune in because it's very much I think 114 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:18.480 a lot of people separate. I mean, true crime obviously 115 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:23.800 has stories about bikers and mobsters, gang members, but in 116 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.079 this particular case, we're looking at what's normally covered on 117 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.560 this program, psychopathic killers and the very worst of the 118 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:36.240 psychopathic killers. So that's keeping in with that tradition. Now, 119 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:41.040 so we're going to talk about trophy kill. And for 120 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.079 those that routinely listen to the program, they've probably heard 121 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:48.360 me talk for an hour about trophy kill. But on 122 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.600 the eve of this program. And why it's important I 123 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.879 think that we're mentioned serial killer is for me to 124 00:07:54.959 --> 00:08:01.319 explain this completely. Let me do that with this thing 125 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.600 that I've written myself concerning that, and I title it, 126 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.720 Who else did Sidney Tearhuse Murder? In my nonfiction book 127 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:11.120 Trophy Kill the Shall We Dance? 128 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.959 Murder? For Ificic in Publishing Toronto, I refer to the 129 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.639 notorious murderer Sidney Teerhues as a serial killer, despite tear 130 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.160 Huse only being convicted of one murder. Now, why would 131 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:25.839 I dan Zapawski accuse tear Huse of serial murder? Now? 132 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.319 The reason I have stated Sidney Teerhues is a serial 133 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.279 killer is because I am confident, very confident, incredibly confident 134 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:35.799 that he has at least two or more victims, and 135 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:40.360 that Tearhusse would readily admit as much if questioned properly. 136 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:42.519 Now you may say, well, what do you mean by 137 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.879 question properly? And who in your mind? Who in my 138 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.840 mind would be able to elicit that type of incredible 139 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:54.080 confession from this killer from the killer himself. Now, I 140 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.200 believe that if someone recognized as a serial killer expert 141 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:01.559 or noted criminal profiler was to express an interest alone 142 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:06.360 in interviewing him extensively, then I believe that Sidney Tearhuse 143 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:10.879 would definitely reveal to that person information about the other 144 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.639 murders he has committed. Now why that? Why believe that 145 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:20.120 is because Sidney Tearhuse has intimated, insinuated, and alluded to 146 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.679 other murders and has written, for example, this is page 147 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:28.000 seventy three and seventy four. When you kill someone, you 148 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.679 experienced a frenzy, a vehemence for what cannot be changed. However, 149 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.559 sometimes when a body dies, it twitches and makes noise. 150 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.799 When you cut off a human arm or leg, then 151 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.320 hold it and admire it, you are overwhelmed with this 152 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:48.120 ideology that the victim was sacrificed for the right reasons. 153 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:53.559 Do you think I have the characteristics of a serial killer? Now? 154 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.600 These are quotes from the killer himself, Tearhuse in his actions, 155 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:03.279 his own words, and his characteristics and all the characteristics 156 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.600 surrounding the murder post murder activities which include necrophilia and 157 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:12.919 organ removal and disposal. And then the communication with media 158 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:17.879 and myself has provided clear evidence I believe of Sidney 159 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.720 ture Hughes as a serial killer based on the established 160 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:27.159 serial killer criminal profile. Now, Sidney ture Hues is clearly 161 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.919 psychopathic and he came forward to police to direct them 162 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:34.399 to his murder horror spectacle when he seized upon a 163 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:38.200 unique opportunity in which he could achieve the infamy he 164 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.600 so desperately wanted now. Once he realized that he was 165 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:46.200 in possession of Susan Sarandon's stolen gold necklace, he then 166 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.120 decided that he would end his reign of horror with 167 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.519 a murder so unforgettable that he would be infamous forever. 168 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.879 His murder horror spectacle did get noticed because of the 169 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:01.480 Hollywood connection, and stories abounded through throughout the world, especially 170 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.720 on celebrity sites. Terrhusse had granted the Winnipeg Son in 171 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:10.360 exclusive interviews immediately after he was arrested, and based on 172 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:14.559 his statements during those interviews, he was clearly psychopathic and 173 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:18.120 definitely wanted to talk. By revealing that he had been 174 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.159 questioned about similar murders that had occurred in Vancouver and 175 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.799 Alberta in about the fourteen years he had lived out there, 176 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.919 he has purposely led myself and other people anyone who 177 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.240 would read these letters to believe that he likely has 178 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:41.679 killed before in Vancouver and Alberta. Now I will read 179 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.720 that letter from you and I will explain this though 180 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:49.080 that of course, what he talks about in the letter 181 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.120 is that he was questioning about similar murders that occurred 182 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:58.960 in Edmonton and Alberta. However, I did the research, and 183 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:03.639 of course we're going to talk about the characteristics of 184 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.320 this murder. And just for those who have never who 185 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:12.759 have not heard past programs, the Sidney Tierhuse directed police 186 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.240 to this murder horror spectacle. And what do I mean 187 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.960 with a murder horror spectacle? And why am I calling it? That? 188 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.720 Is because the body was dismembered in eight pieces. It 189 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:25.679 was posed and displayed for shock value. And when I 190 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:29.000 say the body was crudely reassembled for shock value, what 191 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:31.519 I mean is that the body was sawn in half. 192 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:37.559 The body the victim was decapitated. So, for example, Sidney 193 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:40.840 tier hues take took that decapitated head and put it 194 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:46.879 back on the severed windpipe and neck bone. Pardon me, 195 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:49.519 but he put that head back where the head would 196 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:53.240 have been for shock value. He had removed one of 197 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:57.120 the eyes, he had punctured the other eye, he had 198 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.200 stabbed the chest sixty eight times in an almost perfect 199 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:09.120 symmetrical pattern, not a random pattern. He had disarticulated the 200 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:12.000 arms at the knee, at the elbows, and the legs 201 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:18.559 at the knees, disarticulated, not just randomly savagely cut. He 202 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:23.080 had disarticulated very much, very carefully, very much, as the 203 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:29.080 pathologist said at the trial, surgical precision, dexterity, and obviously 204 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:38.000 some knowledge or very clear knowledge of anatomy and also 205 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:42.519 how to conduct an autopsy. He had careful, carefully dissected 206 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:45.720 one of the arms. He had And here is the 207 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.279 thing that really sets this crime, this case, this killer, 208 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.960 apart from all of the other killers that you may 209 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:59.759 have read about and been shocked by their actions, is 210 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.840 that he had sliced the chest cavity open, washed the 211 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:08.240 body again, posed and displayed this body. He had castrated 212 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:12.720 the victim, so he put where the genitals would be. 213 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:15.960 He put those back where they might be again, posed 214 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.840 and displayed for that one unfortunate police officer to find 215 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.440 in that room, while the killer stood out in the 216 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:27.080 hallway and got to again experience the thrill and the 217 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:33.879 shock that he was trying to convey and to perpetrate this. 218 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:38.360 He had that ability to be able to stand out 219 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:42.279 in the hallway and experience the horror again for someone else. 220 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.840 But of course that's not enough. They need to relive 221 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:53.720 it and reiterate and again recount, relive and repeat what 222 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:57.600 they have done to further shock the world. Now, with 223 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:02.639 the all of the organs missing, every single solitary thing 224 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.519 that would have been in a chess cavity was removed. Now, 225 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.159 for those people that don't know, this would be called 226 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.840 a ripper. But when I looked at calling this person 227 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.360 the ripper, I understood if people didn't understand what the 228 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.759 ripper term actually meant. And the ripper term refers to 229 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.159 of course, Jack the Ripper, and why he was called 230 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.679 the ripper is not only did he use the knife, 231 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.360 but it actually specifically refers to the removal of the organs. 232 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:31.039 So Jack the Ripper's characteristic, his mo his signature, I 233 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:34.440 would say, was to remove those organs, take them outside 234 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:38.080 of the body. And at one point, as he escalated 235 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:42.039 in his crimes, he had sent the kidney, part of 236 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.840 the kidney or half of the kidney to police authorities 237 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:50.919 and a note identifying himself. So clearly these psychopathic serial 238 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:55.240 killers wanting the press and media attention and to relive 239 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:58.200 their crimes and to taunt the police and the victims. 240 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:02.600 Isn't a new phenomena. That's eighteen seventy and there have 241 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.159 been other cases as well. Of course, Jack the Ripper 242 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.440 is just the most famous, and part of that is 243 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:12.759 that he was never ever caught, and so with Sidney Teerhues, 244 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:18.879 he had created this horror spectacle about where this and 245 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.600 no one has created this level of horror spectacle for 246 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.240 police to find. And then he granted interviews with the media. 247 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.759 I recognized he wanted to talk, and of course then 248 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.080 I became involved, corresponded with the killer to write this book, 249 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.039 and at some point after nine months of correspondence about 250 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.039 which included all of his background and all of his 251 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:45.360 exploits very interesting, quite intelligent killer, quite articulate, but very 252 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:50.799 very psychopathic and narcissistic, then I then asked him for 253 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.120 details in the last three months of correspondence, in details 254 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:58.799 specifically about the murder that he claimed to not remember. 255 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.080 And for those in the US, we have a different 256 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.000 system that it has evolved, even though our legal system 257 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:11.079 is based on the British system as many Australia and England. 258 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.119 Obviously in America. 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Welcome to 288 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:50.599 the Family vdW group. 289 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:52.440 No purchess necessary if we we're privited by loss he 290 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.720 terms and conditions eighteen plus that the prosecutor has to prove, 291 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.799 believe it or not, that he wasn't compaired alcohol. So 292 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.279 they spent an incredible inordinate amount of time going through 293 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.880 that at trial. Now, the correspondence that I got in 294 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:12.079 the last three months clearly spoke about details of when 295 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:16.960 the murder occurred, apparently at six point twenty. All the details, 296 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:25.319 every single horrifying, graphic, disturbing, chilling detail this person included, 297 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:30.000 and I let him say these disgusting and incredible things 298 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:34.319 because it was evidence. Now, anybody that reads the book. 299 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.880 It looks at this case will realize the extent of 300 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:44.200 what he had said in terms of damning incriminating evidence 301 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:49.960 against himself. They used the letters and the diagrams which 302 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:55.519 referred that included necrophilia, the time of death, the drawings 303 00:19:55.559 --> 00:20:03.799 are just incredible and shocking, and those letters the correspondence 304 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:08.039 referred to the murder itself, the disposal of the internal organs, 305 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:14.039 the dismemberment, the necrophilia, the entire experience from the killer, 306 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.519 and the drawings that corresponded with what he had done 307 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:22.559 and his fantasies and the victim as a human trophy. 308 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:29.759 And as he had said, the dismembered creation was his 309 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:34.440 ultimate work of art, and he fashions himself as an artist. 310 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:39.599 And while he is in custody now he is reverted 311 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:48.559 back to his artistic leanings and his painting Aboriginal themed paintings. However, 312 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:53.359 he very much interesting that the son of Sam law 313 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:57.519 so that killers would specifically not be able to profit 314 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:02.160 from the Nord riot of crime. It is about a 315 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:04.880 thirty or thirty five year old law that was enacted 316 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.839 so that Sam Berkowitz and other son of Sam Sam 317 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.200 Burkowitz and other killers of that ilk would not be 318 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:16.799 able to profit often a notoriety of their crimes. Now, 319 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:19.559 what does that mean? While thirty five years later we 320 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.599 had still not drafted a law to be able to 321 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:26.720 deal with that potential issue. And of course, with this 322 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:31.880 psychopathic killer trying to taunt police, all of society, enacting 323 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.519 his revenge on his adopted family and all of society, 324 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:39.799 certainly this person, more so than anyone you've ever seen, 325 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:44.319 wanted to make sure that he was known for what 326 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:50.359 he had done. So Sidney Tierhuse has achieved the infamy 327 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.119 he wants to a certain extent. But I believe, I 328 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.880 really do believe that, despite only having this murder, that 329 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.839 he is a serial killer based on the established killer 330 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:04.599 criminal profile. Now, I won't go into that criminal profile, 331 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:09.039 but I will read something from as I just quoted 332 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.119 a little bit. I will just read some of what 333 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:13.759 he has said. So, did you get a clear idea 334 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:16.920 of why I believe he's a serial killer? Besides the 335 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:21.000 select quotes that I've made, And so I will read 336 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.119 what's in the two chapters that concern Sydney's letters Specifically. 337 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:28.839 There are some letters that are spread throughout the entire book, 338 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.799 but the most graphic and horrific, and letters that were 339 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:41.359 specifically utilized at the trial are contained in chapter nine 340 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:46.400 and to a lesser extent, chapter eight. In chapter nine, 341 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:53.559 I title this chapter the Dreaded Letters, and so these 342 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:56.599 are the most important letters to the entire story and 343 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:01.079 also the most important letters in the trial itself. Now 344 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.839 I will just read the first letter, and I've written 345 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:10.359 it so that you the information is revealed in the 346 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:15.279 proper order. Now this is from October six, two thousand 347 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:20.519 and four, and I will read from his letter. I 348 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:23.599 still need a list of offshore banks in the Bahamas 349 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.359 that are not affiliated with the United States or Canada. 350 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.279 I will have it set up as the check will 351 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.759 go directly into the offshore account. If you do this 352 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.200 appearance on CGOB with Charles Adler, I will give you 353 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.240 an interview right after the preliminary hearing. If Adler asks 354 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:44.240 you where you've got your information, just say a reliable source. 355 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.160 Don't mention any names. As for this book titled Drunken Defense, 356 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.440 it's not eye catching. I want something more dramatic, like 357 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:55.920 human trophy or Room three h nine or murder at 358 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.519 six twenty pm the time of Green's death or kill 359 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:04.440 time or use Green's last words, please don't kill me, Typer, 360 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:06.200 write up what you have so far in the first 361 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:08.200 chapter and send it to me. I need to get 362 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.160 a sense of your style of writing. I'll prof rate it, 363 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.680 make any necessary adjustments, and send it back to you. 364 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.359 Send it in a large brown envelope, along with another 365 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.640 brown envelope inside with your return address. As for the 366 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.559 book titled Trophy Kill, it sounds perfect except for the 367 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:29.920 subtitle the Sydney teerhu story, I feel trophy Kill Murder 368 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:32.759 in three oh nine would sound better, or trophy Kill 369 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:35.519 the Murder of Robin Green, or even something a little 370 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:40.200 more shocking, trophy kill Slaughterhouse at the Elbert. I'm even 371 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.440 sure if you ask permission from Hollywood, you could call 372 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.480 it trophy kill the shall we Dance Murder? It's what 373 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.200 Richard Gear and Sarandon called it. Perhaps on the cover 374 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:49.839 we could have a photo of me greened in the 375 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:54.440 necklace and the title, so I guess they could say this. 376 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:58.400 I will read a little bit more from the Sidney 377 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:07.119 teerhuse he's talking about Dennis Nielsen, And for those people 378 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.200 that don't know, Dennis Nielson is an infamous killer, very 379 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:16.000 much like Jeffrey Dahmer from Britain, and this person felt 380 00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:18.559 very necessary to be able to talk about his crimes. 381 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:21.559 He was also a homosexual chef, very much like Sydney 382 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.079 and killed his victims were homosexuals, and very much like 383 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:30.200 Jeffrey Dahmer, he had another added even more bizarre element 384 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.720 to his crimes that he wanted to hang around or 385 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:35.799 have his victims hang around, even though they were dead. 386 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.799 So here's another letter. This is January twelfth, two thousand 387 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:44.440 and five. You feel my situation is shockingly similar to 388 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.519 the likes of Dennis Nilsen. I find it interesting. Do 389 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:51.400 you think Nielsen had any influence? I hadn't really thought 390 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.279 about it that way. The only time I ever entertained 391 00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:57.319 the thought of Dahmer or Nielsen was when I sliced 392 00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:01.000 open greams abd them in, seeing the intricate design and 393 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:05.160 coil of the transparent intestines. Only after playing with them 394 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:09.799 I did I want to experience what Dahmer Nielsen did 395 00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.960 by inserting my arm deep inside Green's chest cavity and 396 00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:17.839 exploring his insides. What fascinated me about Dennis was his 397 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:21.519 first male victim and the skinhead I like to find 398 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.480 out more about that. I would like to write to him. 399 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.839 You wanted a list of missing organs, lungs, part of 400 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:38.920 the esophagus, epiglottis, digestive track, heart spleen, stomach, liver, pancreas, arota, aorta, 401 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:42.880