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Speaker 1: All Toyota Presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and

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Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Amsday Hester and Hester.

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Speaker 1: From carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each

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other on the air Control Live from the Mercedes Benz

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Baton Rouge Studio.

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Speaker 3: It's off the.

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Speaker 4: Bench, all right, welcome back in our number three of

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O t B. And it is Tuesday. It is nine am.

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So you know what that means. We're gonna catch up

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with our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football.

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Speaker 2: Nicholas. How are we doing, sir, gentlemen?

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Speaker 5: How you doing? I'm doing good.

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Speaker 4: I guess I should have asked is it Nicholas, because

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my dad he's just Joey, not Joseph. His dad was

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Tommy Joe, not Thomas Joseph. His brother was Sammy and

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not Samuel. So I guess I just assume. But is

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it Nicholas?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? No, No, nothing weird there. Yeah, Nicholas works.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you hear that dad Nick Underhill called you weird.

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Oh hey, I found out some information yesterday. I'm actually

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for serious X. I'm gonna be hosting the Saints training

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camp practice on July the thirtieth, and so you and

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I can have all the sweat their training camp in

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Metai together.

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Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like thank god Calvin moved the practices up

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to like nine and nine thirty in the morning because

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Mini camp at OTA's where like noon and like that's

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just some like northern er you know, western stuff. Like

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you get down here, it's way too hot for that

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time of day. But it's still gonna be brutal and

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we'll still be sweating, but you know, just a little

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bit less.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look in serious XM.

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Speaker 4: If you want to send me out to the Irvine

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practices as well starting August to sixth, we can make

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that happen. So just putting that out there. But I mean,

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training camp is truly right around the corner. I mean

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we are what two weeks away, really less than two

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weeks away outside of the quarterback physician battle. The first

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thing when you get out the notepad and you flip

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it open, what is the like first note you want

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to take because you've been waiting to see it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean the first one I want to take

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is definitely I want to see Trevor Penning guard. We

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aren't going to see that the first couple of days

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because they aren't like really padded practices. But that is

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kind of the other the headline thing to me. And

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then you know, Covin Banks two, we haven't actually seen

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him block somebody, and I think that's kind of the

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future of the team. The investments all on the line.

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PFF did their like offensive line rankings yesterday. They had

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the Saints twenty at that. I think that's that's maybe

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short changing them a little bit, but if they cash

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in on their potential, it should be a really a

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really good group. So that's at the top list. And

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then my second bollet point, it's just what's happening at

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corner because I think that's imperative too, just in terms

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of the team building going forward. If Kool as good,

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if Alante is you know, Alante is a fascinating story

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right now because I think he has like a similating

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skill set, but it hasn't quite materialized in the type

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of production consistently that you want. And I think that's

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a little bit beyond his control, just and that they've

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moved him around so much. But he's in a contract here,

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and you know, if he doesn't get like the you know,

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Pete Werner week three of training camp deal and he

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bets on himself this year and he gets through that.

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season in just cashing out and going somewhere else. And

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you know, it's also one of those things where if

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you pay him, it's a little bit of a gamble

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right now too, So you know that that's a huge

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story to me going into camp. Him and Raschichiat, I

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think are both kind of candidates to get try to

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get paid now. And honestly, if I was the agent

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of either player, I tell him to go through the season,

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and I think he still gets paid whatever he's worth

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today right now. But if he goes through a season

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and he's healthy and he plays all seventeen games, and

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he also just switched ages to Drew Rosenow, so we

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kind of know probably what he's thinking. You go through

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it and you have a good season, like you're getting megabucks.

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big things going into the training camp right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said it like OTA's and mini camp

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are one thing you get to see a little bit.

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you can write down, but training camp, once you get

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the pads on to start hitting and getting physical, that's

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when you can really see how players are going to react,

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how what players could potentially be, what the team could

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potentially be like, and kind of to that, especially when

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you get to see somebody else with some pads on.

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Do you know if the Saints have any plans or

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they've already scheduled some joint practices with any other teams?

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Speaker 5: Zero they aren't doing any of this year, which which

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is a little bit of a surprise to me. I

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thought for sure they'd do something with the Chargers out

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there or somebody else, Like there's a ton of teams

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out there in California, and they did not set anything up, which,

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you know, I think that's kind of disappointing. It's usually

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the best work to me, Like you get to go

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through and say, hey, look we're gonna run forty red

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zone plays and have that perfected by the end of

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Thursday's practice, and then on you know, Friday, we're gonna

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work these situations. It's usually better work than the games.

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I always feel like it's more informative than those preseason games.

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I was a little bit surprised to see that one

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play out like that. I can't remember the last time

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the Saints went through a camp without joint practices. I

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don't know if that's a kinple of more athos or

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if it's just like a matter of like, hey, like

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I need to, you know, build my program and focus

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on what we're doing this year and then kind of

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look somewhere else. But I was surprised by that.

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Speaker 3: And we always get like the best like training camp

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fights in those too. So now, oh yeah, so Mike

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had what is the best training camp fight you've ever seen?

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Who does it? Was there a memorable one that stuck out?

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Like these two monsters were just going at it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean easily easily it was one guy is

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because he was fighting every single day that the first

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year tryvor Penning was here. It was it was insane.

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It was like it was like they what a training

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camp and he's he's just like he's throwing punches at people.

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It was wild and it just kept happening like day

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after day after day, Like Sean Payton had to tell

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him to chill out, like it was it was a

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lot like he was definitely the guy that that that

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comes to mind. Uh you know early on those you know,

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the receiver cornerback battles like those usually build up over

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time where it's like a lot of talking and then

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like it pops off. But like like Penning was like

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a like a nineties heavyweight fight, like just going after

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people and you know when the big big guys go

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at it, like it there's a little more, there's a

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little more to it. So uh was definitely I mean

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he can throw, yeah, like no doubt about it. Yeah, No,

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he's not somebody. He's not somebody you want coming at you.

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a you know, a fist of a helmet if he

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needs to either, which isn't always smart, but like he's

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really about it, you know, like some guys like they

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get in those situations and like the arms are like

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you know the wind mill punches like Unting kind of

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looked like he had scrapped before.

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Speaker 4: Hey well, I mean, honestly, I'm going to turn this

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conversation into a football question. Like him moving to guard,

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having that mentality where he can be a little bit

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more reckless because you're protected on both sides. Like that,

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to me, if he's ever going to be a successful,

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dependable NFL player, it is going to be at the

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guard position. And I'm not saying that it's easy, but

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I think what he does and his mentality that just

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fits him better because now he can be more aggressive.

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Now he can maybe take more chances. Now he doesn't

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have to be perfect. Now it's not all about the technique.

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we're going to get any kind of good version of

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Trevor Pinning, it feels like it's going to be inside.

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Speaker 5: You just kind of swunk me a little bit, Like

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just with that transition, I didn't know where it was going,

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but it made a lot of sense to me, Like

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I'm the biggest Penning dowterer, Like you know, I I

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gotta see it, But I don't disagree with you, like

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this is think or swim like this this is the

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last stop on the bus to bus spills, Like he

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has to make this work because I don't think you're

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going back to the outside, Like it's if you have

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a chance to cash it on any potential of that

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stap in here. And I do love the idea of

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him at guard in the run game. You know, I

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think he can get out there. I think he can

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pull like this. This is a you know, a three

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hundred and thirty pounds, three hundred and fifty pound behemoth

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that can like legitimately run and you know that stands

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out and I think, you know, polling and doing stuff

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there like that, that's gonna that's gonna play to it.

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It's this eat of which things happen that that kind

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of worries me a little bit. But you know, on

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the flip side, I think I would rather try to

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have him dealing with that as opposed to being out

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on the island. And you know, if you do lose,

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like there's no bumpers, at least he's got some bumpers. Now,

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you know that isn't gonna protect him every time. But yeah,

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I mean theoretically like possibly, Uh, I've never liked it

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for him, you know, Matt, you probably speak to this

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better than me, like, like, does it does it help

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having a taller quarterback in there with like a six

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foot seven guy a guard like Shuck being prototype like

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does that maybe lend a like a possible foot better

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than the six foot tall rattler or you know, ja

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kyner back there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the like the quarterback hype disparancy

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probably is overvalued a little bit, a little bit, I

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mean Drew Brees. And there's been short quarterbacks that have

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shorter quarterbacks I'm not gonna say short, but shorter quarterbacks

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that have like dispelled any of those type of rooms

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that used to be. Everyone's gotta be six five so

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you can see over the line, but with bocking schemes

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like these days and splits and things like that, you

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can kind of overshadow those things. And quarterbacks work on

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this stuff, so yes, there is something to it. But

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even me at six two and a half or like

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a lot of quarterbacks there, guy, all right, but.

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Speaker 2: We're not middle school anymore.

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Speaker 3: Give me it's really a quarter But like I bump

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it up to a half a right, uh, to twenty eight.

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Even at that, it's like you're still not seeing over

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six six guys. So whether I'm six two or five ten,

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you're still not seeing over somebody that's you know, three

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four five inches taller than you.

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Speaker 5: So I mean six two and a half is technically

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six to three.

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Speaker 3: You knows you round up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely do six two and a half. I can't

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believe you threw that in there.

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Speaker 3: Well, why you're all in what five?

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Speaker 4: And I was five eleven at the combine? And I

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tell people in five ten because I don't think I'm

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five eleven anymore. I go down, we're you five ten

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I don't tell people five ten and a half

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Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, go ahead, No, I mean that makes sense.

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always look through those those lanes and everything like that. So, uh,

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for potentially big contract, big contract extension? Like if you

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there's you know, one of them, if there's five of them,

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six and whatever it is, who are those guys you're

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looking at that the Saints need to lock this, lock

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them up, get them an extension, pay big Bucks.

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think their free agents next year kind of bring them.

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Speaker 7: Right up to like where the mentality is of the

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team building, Like the expiring contract to like Tason Mill

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to Mario, Davis, uh Foster, Cam Jordan, Tyron, Matthew Alante,

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of really depends on what direction they're going with the

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team and if you really are leaning into the rebuild

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and trying to get younger and better and all this stuff,

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like does it make sense to bring back Tays them

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and to Mario and Cam and Tyron And you know,

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a cost preposition on some of that stuff. Like you're

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probably very willing to pay for the leadership of guys

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like Tyron and Cam in the Mario, but like the

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significant investment is a tough sell and I don't think

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Tyron or Kim would would you know, would need it

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at this point in their career. They don't right now.

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Mario like I'm probably trying to get out of here,

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a team that's trying to win a super Bowl. I

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feel like he's still at that point in his career.

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someone to stick around? Like, you know, I think you

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kind of got to see what happens this year. But

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you know, I lean more into the you know, like

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why are you paying guys that aren't going to be

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part of this, you know, two three years from now,

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like significant money, you know, one year deals to Cam

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and Tyron kind of the way they did it would

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very low cost. But the guys I'm trying to pay

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at the top of that list. Like, I feel way

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more comfortable paying him than anyone else. And if you're

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going at it with like a you know, a younger quarterback,

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you know, I'm willing to make that bet right now

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on him to kind of you know, save a little bit.

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don't think he's the most polisheder outrunner. Yet that's something

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that's kind of been an ongoing process. And you know,

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the injuries last year I think set him back. You know,

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he was kind of showing good improvement under Keith Williams

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and and you know he got hurt. Maybe you know,

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if that keeps developing and he keeps being this like,

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you know, big play guy, Like I think he could

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like really really break the market if he hits it

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and stays healthy. But those are the guys like that.

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It's it's a fascinating time right now. And you know,

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the team building philosophy. I think it's kind of just

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that it is with the mentality of the franchise too.

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Like they're very, very loyal to their guys and like

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they're the type of team that wants to keep like

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a The Mario around forever. But like you know, there

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are legitimate questions. And it's not like I think he's

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a great player. I think the Mario's probably a guy

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that should be like scratching the Hall of Fame with

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his resume. Like I just don't know if he got

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like the All Pros and Pro Bowls to kind of

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put it together. But he should have. Like, I think

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he's that type of talent. I think he's still a

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really really good player, but like doesn't make sense going forward.

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It's a fascinating time right now.

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Speaker 3: All right, Nick, we're going to finish this off. We'll

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give you a little rapid fire. See where Nick Underhill

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New Orleans, not football, New Orleans, not football. See where

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his mindset is going into the season on some specific

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people and their targets and their stats for the seasons.

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Are you ready for a little rapid fire, Yeah, let's

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do it, all right. Alvin Kamara rushing yards over under

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nine hundred and fifty yards.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking the under on that for sure.

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Speaker 2: For sure, I don't have that.

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Speaker 5: It's never hit a thousand, you know. I think there's

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I think there's better depth at that position, and I

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don't want to see him getting two hundred and twenty carries.

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Speaker 3: Very good, So let's go to his total yard all

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purpose yards at fifteen hundred.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's tough. That's a good line, man. I'm gonna

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take a I'm gonna take a slight under, just like

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a barely barely under it. If you had said it

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at like fourteen to fifty, I would you would have

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talked me into the over.

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Speaker 3: So I think he was like fourteen, like forty seven

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last year. So I being that we finally have like

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an offensive minded coach, I kind of bumped up everybody's

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kind of averages a little bit, just to give you

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a little heads up there. I think he was close

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to the nine hundred rushing last year. I think. So anyways,

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all right, let's move on Rashid Shaheed over under nine

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hundred yards receiving.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the under. I mean, like the total

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passing yards I think is probably what was Caleb at

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last year. Kill was like thirty four hundred or something

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like that, thirty six, Like, yeah, I think you're under

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four thousand. So like I would, I'm gonna probably like

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cut off your next one. But like I would, I'm

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probably gonna take the unner on both a like Rashid

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and the Lave just because I don't know that the

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volume is going to be there.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because we were looking at the stats with

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both of them had injuries last year, but they had

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big numbers in the games that they did play, Like

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Alave had seven hundred and something playing and what six

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like less than half eight games something like that. So yeah,

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I guess that'll bring me to the next one. I

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put Chris Alave based on the numbers he was showing.

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I even kind of like went down on his average

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per game at twelve hundred yards over under.

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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna have like a season that it

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was like a twelve hundred yards season on film, Like

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you're gonna be blown away by some of the stuff

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he does. But like I don't. I don't know that

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anyone's getting that high. Like shuck would have to be

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shuck or rattler, but no QB controversy here, like like

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one was gonna have to be really really good to

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get to that, to get to that point.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go with the mister, Brandon Cooks. I'm gump

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since you based on your aswers, I'm going down a

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little bit. Receiving yards over under three hundred and fifty yards.

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Speaker 5: I'll take the over. Yeah, I think I'll take the over.

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He gets it.

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Speaker 3: What was that We're gonna see some bow and arrows

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this year?

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Speaker 5: I think a few. And look, I like the way

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he's carrying himself to Sox season. He just set up

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a throwing session at Nike Headquarters, and Beaverton got like

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the whole team out there. You know, I think he's

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building comfort. He worked out with Rattler wasn't there because

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he was doing his his youth camp in South Carolina,

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but he made a trip down the Arizona to work

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with him. Like, I think he's really doing a lot

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to like ingratiate himself, and I think like the chemistry

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with the quarterbacks. I'll take the over on three.

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Speaker 3: Fifty Okay, last three here, rapid fire or rapid fire

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total TD pass over under thirty three. I'll go under

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total sacks defensive this are only defensive one here defense

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snkes total sacks over under thirty nine.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I don't. I don't like the D line.

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I'm going under.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's very average of the pack. Yeah, it's very

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total wins here we go over under five and a half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been saying five, So I'm under.

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Speaker 3: You hate the Saints, all right, me and Hester is

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trying so hard to be fans. You're really making it tough.

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a fun five though, like.

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Speaker 3: All fun that he went under on everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fun five over on Brandon.

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Speaker 3: Cooks Brandon Cook. Lets go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe you know a little babe with a better

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attitude next week.

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Speaker 4: We all so, Nick, he knows the Saints as well

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as anybody. I'll leave that there, Nick Underhill. New Orleans

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dot Football is the website. If you want to try

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to know the Saints as well as Nick and the team,

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do over at New Orleans Stuff Football.

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Speaker 2: Sign up for the site today. Nick.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it as always, and I look forward to

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seeing you down in training camp here in a couple

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of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. TV's guys, I feel great about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, good, No, good for me?

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Speaker 3: Right great? Yeah? Oh, it's everything's fine, guys, everything's Saints fans,

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it's fine.

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Speaker 2: It is crazy that Alvin Kamara doesn't have a thousand

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yard season.

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Speaker 3: It is wild.

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Speaker 4: But he's had like he's had some crazy like eight

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to fifty rushing, seven to fifty receiving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he had eight, like sixty one year receiving.

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But he's always averaging around like thirteen to fifteen purpose yards.

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Speaker 8: Outside of last year, he's always kind of had a

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split backfield, like it was Ingram, it was Latavius Murray.

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Like last year was kind of the only year where

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he was like the everydawn guy.

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Speaker 3: Right here, I got it looked up here.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, I'm trying to look at some guys that

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like I play with.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think if if they had one thousand yards.

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Speaker 3: In twenty seventeen, he had eight hundred and twenty six

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yards receiving. So since let's say seventeen, I'm sorry, seventeen,

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he had fifteen hundred and fifty four all purpose eighteen

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fifty ninety two, nineteen, thirteen thirty twenty sixteen eighty eight,

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twenty twenty one, thirteen thirty seven. Last year he had

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fourteen hundred and ninety three all purpose yards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's been a hell of a player.

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Speaker 3: Been so last year nine hundred and fifty rushing yards

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when I set the over under at nine fifteen fifty

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and he went he went under. Well, it's just surprising.

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Speaker 4: Because he did say what he thinks he has a

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better compliment of backs with him.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and yeah, I get that too, but this is

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the first time in a while that we've had all

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offensive minded coach like this like we have had. Yeah,

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so since the Sean Payton era. This is the first

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time like a coach that is focused on offense. They're

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bringing that, so it's is exciting. I would expect all

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the numbers from these people to go up, even with

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young quarterbacks quarterback battles. I think they will get put

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in the right position. I think you'll have some individual

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stats that are going to pop off a little bit

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and be better than what people think. All right, we'll

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take a break.

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Speaker 4: Look it's okay Nick, you know rapid fire and Nick underhill.

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Sometimes that doesn't work out, but great answers as always

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482
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Speaker 1: Ye some tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.

483
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,599
Speaker 9: You see the shackles maybe on the s.

484
00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:21,839
Speaker 3: From this behave.

485
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: It's just a.

486
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Speaker 7: Way.

487
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 3: How'd you break you over there?

488
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 4: Good Sunday King Caleb Williams not too bad.

489
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,759
Speaker 3: Break and so how do you think Caleb is gonna

490
00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:48,119
do the ship?

491
00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:50,079
Speaker 2: I don't care because I'm gonna get rid of all

492
00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:55,400
those cars before. Try while I was hot.

493
00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 4: Like if I was going to hold onto one of

494
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,279
the quarterbacks from last year, I would go, can you

495
00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:01,960
turn the tour?

496
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: Down they were racing for King of the Mountain points.

497
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: Like, certainly Jayden.

498
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: There's one quarterback I'm definitely hanging on to right now,

499
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Jayden or Spencer Rally. Well, I'm hanging on with Spencer.

500
00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:18,759
Well Jayden, Yeah, No, Jayden like he's hot Joe Milton.

501
00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:20,440
So for him to get hotter, he's gonna have to

502
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,519
have like Patrick Mahomes like type.

503
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:23,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

504
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:26,839
Speaker 4: Arc So it's right now in the card game, and

505
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:28,200
correct me if I'm wrong. You know it as well

506
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,279
as I do, even better. It is kind of like

507
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,640
Caleb still holds a lot of weight, but it is

508
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,759
Jayden right underneath that Caleb, and then you have writerneath

509
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:39,319
that bow Nicks.

510
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, bow Knicks's that's the wonderful was your love? I Mean,

511
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:44,240
I don't know as much about cards, but like, the

512
00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:46,880
dude's got weapons this year. You didn't have any last year.

513
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,400
So my thing is, I think Caleb is gonna have

514
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,240
a pretty good year.

515
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: Is he gonna throw for four thousand?

516
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: Who you're holding on to?

517
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I don't have as many him. I'm

518
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,400
holding on to Pinnix okay, because he's like of the

519
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:01,559
six rookie quarterbacks last year, ye, kind of at the

520
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,160
more bottom of that, I think is but I thought

521
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,599
even more than J. J.

522
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: McCarthy.

523
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:10,279
Speaker 3: I even asked you before that draft, the twenty twenty

524
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,559
four draft, I said, who's your favorite quarterback outside of JD?

525
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,319
And you said Pennix. So I've always really been a

526
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:19,079
fan of Penis and I think just him getting the reins,

527
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,119
getting the full confidence of a staff, and you know,

528
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,839
he's got a pretty good team around, I think he's

529
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:24,559
going to be pretty good. I know that's not great

530
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:28,240
for Saints fans, but I would expect him to be

531
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,599
really good. But you do it. But you look at

532
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,359
Caleb Williams like a guy that they they drafted, another

533
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,039
receiver they brought in it like they have so much talent,

534
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,839
Like the Bears are set up better than they have

535
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,359
been for a long time, and like Kayleb, Williams didn't

536
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,319
just like get less talented over the last year. He

537
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,799
had flashes and certainly it's like but I think Bears

538
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:52,640
fans and NFL fans are kind of looking at this

539
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,519
as like year one for him. Now, Like ye, that

540
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:58,079
was a train wreck with their last age. It was

541
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,759
like you want to talk about like just like a

542
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:04,599
that has no shot at commanding the room, that guy.

543
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,599
But now they bring in an offensive specialist who's done,

544
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,279
like he turned Jared Goff's career completely around into MVP

545
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,440
candidate status. Yeah, and it turns the Lions, I mean

546
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,279
helped turn the lines around. Of course they can't. Let's

547
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,839
don't forget about the ULTI yeah, I'm just gonna say,

548
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,279
like from an offensive standpoint, but getting creative being like

549
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,680
we talked about earlier in the show, a combination of

550
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,519
shotgun and creativity under the center, and it helps so

551
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000
much spread the ball around. I would expect Caleb Williams

552
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,160
to have a pretty breakout second year, that would be

553
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,839
my prediction. So yeah, I would maybe hold, but like,

554
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:43,240
you still got a lot of hype. So like in

555
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,119
the card game, you can sell the hype or you

556
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,759
can wait and really cash out if it like turns out.

557
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:54,119
But I think most people want to probably sell the hype.

558
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:55,920
Like right now, I'm hold on the Pinks because I

559
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,279
think like you, I think Pennix comes out and he

560
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,359
has a good stretch of the season where he's looking

561
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,960
really good, and then at that point, like yeah, so

562
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:05,640
then you push, you push, you push again. That's why

563
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,839
I do Spencer. I think spl Spencer has a good

564
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,960
shot at at least being the starter at the beginning

565
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,559
of the season. Yeah, I think Saints fans should hope

566
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,720
that Spencer Rattler is the starter of the entire season,

567
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,559
because at that point you either know, all right, I

568
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,759
got a franchise guy, or I got a guy that

569
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,039
started the entire season is really good. Now we have

570
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,799
good trade value potentially with him if you do think

571
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:28,720
Shuck is your next guy. And I always want a

572
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:32,920
rookie quarterback, Maybe not always, there's some there's some exceptions

573
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,680
to the rule Jade Daniels. Of course. The most recent

574
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480
exception of that rule Bo Nixon exception. But like you,

575
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,240
for the most part, it's better for a quarterback to sit.

576
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,519
Of course, it'd be better if you was like sitting

577
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:45,400
behind it like a ten yured Veig.

578
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: May set up for a little bit last year. Pennicks

579
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:48,440
out for a little bit last year.

580
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely. JJ McCarthy another one that I would expect, like

581
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720
he's got a lot of pieces around him that are

582
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:57,759
really good. He's set up for success. So these guys

583
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,000
that you had six quarterbacks go in the first round

584
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,400
last year, and that means like a lot of them

585
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,079
went to pretty good teams. Yeah, so you got a

586
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:09,480
guy JJ McCarthy with the Vikings. Of course they're great,

587
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,519
they're a threat in the North. Falcons have good talent

588
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,119
around him. At least the Broncos showed some signs they

589
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,039
got pieces in place this year. So I mean, I

590
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:20,079
would explain that this is going to go down as

591
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:23,920
probably one of the better quarterback draft classes. And I

592
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,319
talked about last year, not this year.

593
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 4: So it is why So like you know, kind of

594
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,119
going back to the card game, it's like those six quarterbacks,

595
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,799
they didn't change like cards had come back, but they

596
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,680
like kind of changed a lot in the football card game,

597
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,799
right because people are always chasing those six teams. It's

598
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:43,559
like I want one of those six teams and sure

599
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,000
like you'll be okay, like if you get the Giants.

600
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Or the Jags, like you get my leak, or if

601
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,000
you get.

602
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: The Cardinals you get Marvin Harrison, Jags, you get Chargers

603
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,319
with Lab mcconckey, Like it's like okay, like cool, pretty good,

604
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,880
But you're chasing those six quarterbacks and like in the

605
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,559
card game, like now it's like they hadn't even gotten

606
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:05,160
the cards out. Really they're just still still.

607
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:06,519
Speaker 3: Buy the card packs now that have Jayde Daniels as

608
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,640
a rook So like that's that's the thing. Do you

609
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,480
hold Jayde value Jayden Daniels cards as like if you're

610
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,160
if you're in it for the business side of things,

611
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,880
because his value is so sky high right now, so

612
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,480
like he has to take the next, like big big

613
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:23,000
step for it to go even higher. That's why I like,

614
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,519
you see Patrick Mahomes are still valuable even if they're

615
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:26,480
not rookies, right.

616
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 8: Mad does Caleb throw for four thousand yards? Bears have

617
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:32,799
never had the first one.

618
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: I think Caleb Williams will throw for four thousand ards.

619
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,000
I'm not saying this season, but he will for this

620
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,480
He'll be the first one. I think. I think he's

621
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,240
going to surprise people. I don't know if it actually

622
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:44,759
I don't even know if it's going to be a surprise.

623
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,519
I think he's gonna I think he's gonna make believers

624
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:50,519
out of a lot of doubters because I think he's

625
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:52,680
still talented. I think Jayden Daniels of course, is going

626
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,799
to have the better career and is the better quarterback

627
00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:56,640
and will be the better quarterback of those two if

628
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,000
we're trying to make comparisons, But Caleb Williams got Draft

629
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,720
one for a reason because he's talented. I don't think

630
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,200
he is a bad dude or a bad teammate. I

631
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:10,599
think he was in a position that organizationally lacked a

632
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:12,599
lot of leadership, and that happens with a lot of

633
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,759
different organizations. So hopefully they got a guy, and all

634
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,279
signs point to yes, that they do have a guy

635
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,240
that can command the room and run a team and

636
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,880
put the pieces in place to be successful, to take

637
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,920
advantage of the weapons that they do have.

638
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,799
Speaker 4: You know why, I think, and I know we gotta

639
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:29,400
take a break, but you know why, I think Jayden

640
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,240
was way more successful in my opinion than Caleb. Jaden

641
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:37,079
is so comfortable in chaos, right, I think there's like,

642
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,640
obviously he's got traits that are like superhuman with his

643
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,759
speed and running ability and deep through all that. Sure,

644
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,559
but his ability to be in a chaotic situation and

645
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:48,799
look cool, calm and collected, where Caleb's like, oh I

646
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:50,559
gotta get out here, Oh I got to go make

647
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,559
the crazy you know, running to my right, throw back

648
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,119
across my body to the left, I'm panicking a little bit.

649
00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: Jayden didn't have that, and that's what I think.

650
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,079
Speaker 4: That's why he was so successful so early, is because

651
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:04,680
he allowed himself to play through the offense and not

652
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,759
try to do too much, just based off his.

653
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: Ability and that Jaden processes information so fast and a

654
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,839
lot of that has to do with this training and

655
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,839
that virtual reality that's become like popularized, and they've done

656
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,880
stories about it now with Jayden. But that is something

657
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,920
as a quarterback that you can learn with experience. I

658
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,079
know he played a lot in college. I'm talking about

659
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:28,920
Kayleb Williams, but when things turn chaotic, that is something

660
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,799
that you can improve as a quarter wall. We talked

661
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:32,400
about running backs earlier. It's kind of hard to teach

662
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,559
a running back how to read a block and instinctually

663
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,200
read stuff. As a quarterback, the game can slow down

664
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,640
for you if you're comfortable within the system and you've

665
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640
got good pieces around you, which I think they do

666
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:44,559
all right.

667
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: When we come back, LSU did make a higher in

668
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the recruiting department. We'll talk about it, tell you who

669
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it is, and he's got an LSU tie, as I

670
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just found out.

671
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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what that is as well. When we

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U football like only champions can.

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Speaker 2: God time don't all right?

697
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Speaker 4: Welcome back again, O TV one four five ESPN, Ben Rouge.

698
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I'll throw it now to our guy Tata for Little

699
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700
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so yesterday it was announced that this was last night,

701
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:48,519
l s U is hiring Ole Miss coordinator of recruiting strategy.

702
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,640
Like I would just call it recruiting strategy coordinator, but

703
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,119
that is neither here nor there. He's going to be

704
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l s U Football's assistant general manager under Austin Thomas.

705
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Speaker 3: A lot of ties to the program.

706
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Speaker 8: Austin Thomas actually got him hired when he was at

707
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,920
Old Miss. Now he's back under Austin Thomas. He's been

708
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there since twenty twenty two. He's a Mississippi native like

709
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he's He's got big ties to Oxford.

710
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Speaker 3: So this is a big time gift for LSU.

711
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Speaker 4: One thing they've been doing at Old Miss that they

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haven't done in the past is hitting and recruiting in

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high school and the portal. Certainly the portal, but I

714
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mean they're not going to be a top five recruiting class.

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Speaker 2: Just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: But remember we used to do the show Flynn and

717
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like we'll be talking to night like they thirty.

718
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Speaker 2: Fifth, thirty eighth and recruiting. Now they're starting to creep

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their way up.

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Speaker 4: And this is somebody that has incredibly strong Mississippi ties

721
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and you're able to get him from Ole miss to LSU.

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Our guy, Dick Dixon aka Richard Dixon, he says he

723
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actually knows him. They're from Ocean Springs and played high

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school ball together.

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Speaker 2: How about that? And if he's good enough for Dick Dixon,

726
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by god, he's.

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Speaker 3: Good good enough for us, and he should be good

728
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enough for you.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 3: I like out in this world of the the n

731
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I L the new like College is getting general man

732
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,360
like the light speed quickness that we have moved through

733
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,000
this and College is having to just create titles for people.

734
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:18,840
What was that title again, Coordinator of Coordinator of recruiting strategy. Yep,

735
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that big one.

736
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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the title Knower of ball.

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Speaker 3: M hmm. That's us. That's going to be a Landra.

738
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That's gonna be I mean.

739
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Speaker 4: Although I did line up one of the receivers who

740
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I was thinking I was putting off the ball yeah,

741
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instead of putting him behind the ball, I'll put him

742
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ahead of the ball because I'm you know, just hold

743
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on this lexic.

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Speaker 9: Just eleven personnel that ball.

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Speaker 3: We did the guy right there.

746
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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's not supposed to be well, I.

747
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 4: Mean not supposed to be that far out, So it

748
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doesn't matter. That doesn't change of the personnel or the format.

749
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Speaker 10: Let me guess there's eleven people on the field, Well,

750
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there's eleven people.

751
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Speaker 4: That has nothing to do with eleven personnel. So numbers

752
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,000
are talking about how many tight ends and running back

753
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in the game.

754
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Speaker 3: Okay, So our goal here at OTB this football season

755
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:06,079
and then the lead up to educate, like to turn over

756
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,199
all our listeners and more educated ball nerves. I think

757
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,280
one thing is like I think LSU fans in general

758
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,440
have a really good sense and knowledge of football in general,

759
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,480
of the good, bad, the ugly. But we're going to

760
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,079
take the next deep dive. So we talked about this

761
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:25,800
is real basic stuff. We talked about how people verbalize

762
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,679
personnels on offense and so will you hear it a lot?

763
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,360
You hear you know, thirty one twelve twenty one personnel

764
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,719
whatever it is. So we just started out with what

765
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,239
we talk eleven and twelve personnel. So basically, you have,

766
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,519
besides the lineman and the quarterback, you have five skill

767
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:44,360
positions between wide receivers, tight ends, and running backs. So

768
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that tells you the first number, Okay, the first number

769
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is how many back running back types, so running backs

770
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or fullbacks would be the first number, and then the

771
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second number would be tight ends. How many tight ends

772
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,599
are in the game. And then there's not a third number,

773
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,800
it's just the remainder of the five total people that

774
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are receivers. So eleven personnel, if the it tells you

775
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,800
how many running backs and how many tight ends? Yeah,

776
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,159
so how many tight ends? How many running backs and

777
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,000
tight ends are there in eleven personnel?

778
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,519
Speaker 9: One one running back?

779
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: How many receivers would that.

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00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: Be if you had three?

781
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: Maybe three? Yeah, exactly? What about twelve personnel?

782
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 9: How many it would be two running backs and two

783
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,239
tight ends that.

784
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: Would be Yeah, so it'd be one twelve.

785
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought I was going to personnel. The first

786
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one's running back.

787
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,599
Speaker 9: So one running back, one running.

788
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,639
Speaker 3: Back or two tight tight ends? And how many receivers

789
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,119
two receivers, So let's switch it twenty one personnel.

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,159
Speaker 10: It'd be two running backs, one tight end, two receivers.

791
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: Very very good, let's go fall all, No, how about this?

792
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,760
What about what about ten personnel?

793
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,119
Speaker 9: One running back, no tight ends?

794
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:58,119
Speaker 3: How many four receivers there? It is?

795
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: You know, more than got it? A lot of people.

796
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Speaker 3: Let's go ball knower.

797
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well done, so you can.

798
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:05,519
Speaker 9: So you could do any number personnel, any.

799
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,519
Speaker 3: Number five you can do. Yeah, zero five personnel.

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00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:12,519
Speaker 9: Okay, there was, But eleven and twelve are the most common.

801
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,199
Speaker 3: Eleven twelve back in the days one one okay, yeah,

802
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:21,840
I would say eleven eleven's big and eleven ten is huge.

803
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,679
I mean, four wide is a big thing.

804
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,079
Speaker 2: There's a lot of zero personnel.

805
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: Zero personnel would be five wide, right, a.

806
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 9: Lot of ten personnel like hello receivers, right, empty zero,

807
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,119
So you just throw hello receivers out there?

808
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: Five five, five wide, five line on QB.

809
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,079
Speaker 4: Like a pony personnel A twenty personnel and two backs.

810
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:44,679
Speaker 2: No titans.

811
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: So you got you got spotters on the other team

812
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,079
that are watching personnels run back and forth, and they're

813
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,920
changing their defensive personnel, right, and so we talked about

814
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,920
it the other day. Yeah, base defense is four defensive backs.

815
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,760
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, nick would be five, okay,

816
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:08,000
time would be six DB's okay, and quarter personnel is seven.

817
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,000
So pretty much four defensive linements seven DB's. That's what

818
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:13,639
the team is. Like. You don't see it a lot.

819
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:15,519
That's the team that's running prefen. You can do it

820
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,960
in preview. Yeah, so you got spotders. So they watched

821
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,920
the offense run back and forth. They know who's in

822
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,960
the game, they know it's eleven personnel, and then they

823
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,639
see a tight end run in the game, They're like, okay,

824
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:29,119
it's twelve personnel with twelve car and they'll run up.

825
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,039
They'll be like base defense, base defense, and they'll run

826
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:32,440
a linebacker out there for the nickel.

827
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 10: So this feels obvious. But on here, I'm gonna guess this.

828
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:43,559
You wrote O O C O O T E lineman, lineman, center, lineman, lineman, tackle, edge,

829
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,760
tight end, tight end. Oh the tight ends right here.

830
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,599
Oh it's like linean, lineman, center, lineman, linmon and the

831
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:50,199
tight end on.

832
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:53,039
Speaker 2: The ball always have to be But I just that's.

833
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 9: Just how you did it, Okay.

834
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even like worry about like seven.

835
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: It has to be seven on the line of scrimmage.

836
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: That's why I said, I messed up and put they

837
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,079
got too far up.

838
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be seven people on the line

839
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,480
of scrimmage, even when you're playing Arkansas in two thousand

840
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,840
and seven and you hit a sixty five.

841
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,679
Speaker 3: Yard rail even then, especially then details matter of fellas,

842
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,920
Yeah they do. They definitely right there. You got ball.

843
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,599
Speaker 4: But uh, different people have different ways to draw the center.

844
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,480
Some people put it a square and then the other

845
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:25,599
linemen are circles.

846
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: I've seen people put a que which makes sense. People

847
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:30,360
do it. I put a C.

848
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,079
Speaker 3: With a squiggly.

849
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:36,119
Speaker 2: Some people put an X. I put a C R

850
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:36,599
a square.

851
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 8: Typically, I think I've seen it's always square circle circ Yeah,

852
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,480
square with a little squiggling.

853
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: The squiggly supposed to be like if you draw it up,

854
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,559
it's a square with a little circle in the middle,

855
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,400
which is the football. So that's but it's just like

856
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,679
you draw a square and just quickly like squiggle little squiggly. Yeah.

857
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:54,960
But yeah, if the tight end is on the ball

858
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,960
to one side, you got one receiver to that side,

859
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:58,039
receiver off.

860
00:40:58,119 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the receiver.

861
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: It's all line scrimmers the tight end.

862
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 9: There's too many out there.

863
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: Line seven on the line on the other side, you'll

864
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,480
have a receiver on the ball. Yeah, so that makes

865
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:06,000
your seven.

866
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:09,199
Speaker 3: You can't you can have more than seven, but anybody

867
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,760
past that seventh person cannot route. So if the tight

868
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,840
ends on the line of scrimmage and the receiver to

869
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,239
that side is on the line of scrimmage, only one

870
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,360
of them can go out for a pass.

871
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 9: Okay, that makes sense.

872
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,039
Speaker 2: All right, there we go. We go a little football

873
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:24,840
one oh one here.

874
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:29,079
Speaker 4: Wait, just wait till Gulf Coast gives us that interactive whiteboard.

875
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: We are.

876
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 9: Able to read playbook.

877
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, you can be like Tony Romo here

878
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,280
pretty soon.

879
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:41,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. See he's saying lucky.

880
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:42,639
I think it's going left.

881
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:43,159
Speaker 7: I don't know.

882
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,599
Speaker 3: I want to remind you guys that drink my high hydrate,

883
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,480
drink my head. If you want to give your kids

884
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,800
something that doesn't have like artificial flavors color sweeners, no

885
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,400
artificial dies like, you can put it in their water

886
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,880
bottle and they can take it to like school where

887
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,079
they're only allowed to drink water.

888
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 4: A little pro tip there, Or you can like keep

889
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,960
them on your person like I do it all the time.

890
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,440
I've got my high zero and just regular my high

891
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,079
because you know what, depending on the vibes, depending on

892
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:11,760
what kind of mood I'm in, I might change it up.

893
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 9: I'm partial to the zero.

894
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: It's a drink mix that's actually liquid instead of just

895
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,440
throwing it in the name saying.

896
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Speaker 9: That true true true is a powder ivy.

897
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. Wow, But yeah, you

898
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:27,280
like the liquid.

899
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, the liquid mixing so much better. Yeah, we all

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00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,400
hate liquid.

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904
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905
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean we're getting towards the end. We got

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twenty five point eight kilometers left the peloton. They've caught up.

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They did what they do with The GC contenders are

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eighteen seconds behind only one leader now, so this is

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going to turn out. We got a a big hill

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to climb towards the end, so this is going to

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become a GC battle here today. It's gonna be some

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Speaker 2: You'll have with that.

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Speaker 3: Gotchas and second right now on the g C, Vinga

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goes in third. So those are the two guys patching

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Vinga goo Gootcha's got three of the last five victories.

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Vingo has got to the last five victories. So it's

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the battle of the bench, right wait for that? Uh

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