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<v Speaker 1>This is Doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Doctor Wendy wallsh Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app kf I AM six forty. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy Wall Show where I love to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>science of love, falling in love, heartbreak, all kinds of relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're new to my show, I have a PhD

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<v Speaker 1>in clinical psychology. I'm not a therapist. I'm a psychology professor,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm obsessed with the science of love. I've written

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<v Speaker 1>three books on relationships, did a dissertation on attachment theory,

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<v Speaker 1>and well, let's get to it. I'll tell you what's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. Did you know a woman in France lost

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<v Speaker 1>one point two million dollars in a romance scam. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about how to avoid romance scams, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have a million dollars to give away.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever little bits we have we could lose. Plus I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be answering your social media questions. But first I predicted it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no secret there. Travis Kelcey is not at the Grammys, right, Kayla?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right? Have you seen him? See you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you why he was not there last

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<v Speaker 1>year too. Yes, he has that pretty little girlfriend with

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<v Speaker 1>the nominations. What was that girl's name again? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor, Taylor, Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that that's it. You know what's funny. I go

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<v Speaker 1>to Orange Theory and there's a instructor there named Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you the story before I'm repeating myself. And

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<v Speaker 1>turns out she's Taylor Swift's second cousin and coincidentally got

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<v Speaker 1>named the same name. Didn't know that fact when she

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<v Speaker 1>got named that name. Anyway. Uh, here's what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to understand, ladies who are out there saying it's a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible sign. He can't even take the day off work

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<v Speaker 1>to go and support his girlfriend. Uh, okay, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete. He's paid millions of dollars to adhere to

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<v Speaker 1>a strict employment contract. His team is scheduled to practice today. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike other jobs, he can't just ask for the day off.

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<v Speaker 1>And besides, like legal financial ramifications. If this dude went

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<v Speaker 1>a wall right before the Super Bowl, don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>he created a bunch of disgruntled teammates who could put

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<v Speaker 1>the whole team in jeopardy of losing football's biggest prize.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So if you understand the constraints on professional athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of that game coming up next week, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to interpret his absence as a statement about

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<v Speaker 1>his love life, all right. So, but I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to say this. I just feel like I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say it because I know things I don't know things

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<v Speaker 1>about Taylor and Travis. I know things about how and

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<v Speaker 1>why and when people fall in love and choose to

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<v Speaker 1>tie the knot. I would put money on the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that these two are getting married. I mean not tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're going to get married for sure. Statistically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>they are the people most likely to get married. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me break it down. They are in the most

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<v Speaker 1>common age range. She's what, thirty two and he's thirty four, like,

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<v Speaker 1>or she's thirty four and he's thirty two, so somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Okay, she's near the end of her fertility window.

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<v Speaker 1>They both come from parents who stayed married. They come

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<v Speaker 1>from communities where they may have absorbed religious messages in

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<v Speaker 1>early life about marriage and family. Their closest friends are

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<v Speaker 1>married couples Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, Patrick and Brittany

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes and Jason and Kylie Kelsey. You know, marriage is

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<v Speaker 1>highly contagious within social circles. So and it's also going

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<v Speaker 1>to I think, help both their careers. They're gonna get married.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get married. It's clearly the next step the

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<v Speaker 1>public's been waiting for. They've been together a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, enough time to assess compatibility, so they would

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<v Speaker 1>get the nod of approval from me. If they plan

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<v Speaker 1>to have a family, the time is now. Maybe after

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<v Speaker 1>the Grammys tonight, he'll do it by zoom, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she's deciding if she's going to propose to him. You

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<v Speaker 1>never know. Speaking of Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, look

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<v Speaker 1>at that segue. Have you guys been following what's been

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Blake Lively and her director co star

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<v Speaker 1>from the movie what was the damn movie called?

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<v Speaker 2>It Ends with Us?

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<v Speaker 1>It Ends with Us? Well, it's ending with them. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you their friendship is ending right there. A

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<v Speaker 1>director star is Justin Baldoni, so little background. Blake Lively

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<v Speaker 1>worked on this movie with him. He was the director

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<v Speaker 1>and the co co star. She accused him of sexual

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<v Speaker 1>harassment and for spearheading a smear campaign launched in retaliation

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<v Speaker 1>for speaking out against his supposed alleged might have happened misconduct. See,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to say that for legal reasons. On the

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<v Speaker 1>set of the movie. He's denied everything. Now he's countersued

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<v Speaker 1>her and her husband. Forget this four hundred million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is apparently what they're worth. So here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>On Friday. Baldoni decided, I'm going to go so public.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm beyond public. I don't know how he got this url, Kayla,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what the url to his website is?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit info dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I hear that there's a very very wealthy man

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<v Speaker 3>helping him with this lawsuit. So yeah, more money than

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively puts together. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>say the director, the director of the movie, somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>That worked on the movie. That's team.

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<v Speaker 3>The producer just then has billions and billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 3>and he's given.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they bought the url the lawsuit infoodfox dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit info dot com. That's all you type into Google.

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<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit info is if theirs is the only lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet. And what he did is he uploaded

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<v Speaker 1>a document. It's not glamorous. There's no pretty don't look

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<v Speaker 1>for nice graphics, don't look for pretty pictures, don't look

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<v Speaker 1>for animation. It's just a document one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>pages that includes all the text, exchanges, all the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from the script that disproves everything in her claim.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. He also sued he's suing The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times because they printed a story that he says was

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<v Speaker 1>all one sided, just writing whatever Blake Lively said, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't balanced, and it was whatever, slander defamat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they call it. Slander defamation. No

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<v Speaker 1>defamations when you're to private people diss somebody else, but

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<v Speaker 1>slanders when you're lying as a journalist publicly. I did

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<v Speaker 1>take journalism law on ethics, but it was like in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one.

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<v Speaker 2>You were one of the greatest journalists average.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't mean to laugh at their drama, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did skim through the one hundred and sixty pages

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<v Speaker 1>stopped on some very interesting texts At issue. He described

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<v Speaker 1>her wardrobe as needing to be more sexy. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Baldoni asked their shared trainer. I guess Lively had introduced

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<v Speaker 1>him to her workout person. And there's all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>of the prescript in the text of how many push

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<v Speaker 1>ups and sit ups and what to eat and how

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<v Speaker 1>much cardio. If you want to know how to look

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<v Speaker 1>like Justin Baldoni, just log onto that and you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to find the whole work out there. And so Baldoni

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<v Speaker 1>apparently allegedly has had back pain in the past and

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<v Speaker 1>some slip discs or whatever. So he was concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>a particular love making scene that's a lift scene where

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<v Speaker 1>he has to lift her up and carry her and

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<v Speaker 1>do the deed. And they don't do it for real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all it's magic of movies. But he asked her

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<v Speaker 1>trainer how much she weighed so he could prepare for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his side of the story. Well, husband Ryan Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>went ballistic over that. How dare you criticize my wife

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<v Speaker 1>about her way? She was postpartum, she was breastfeeding. How

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<v Speaker 1>dare you also everything you could imagine that could go wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and this film seemed to go wrong. She got sick

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of times, and at one point I

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<v Speaker 1>think one or two of the crew members got COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>So even though we're past COVID proto, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in, she got kids, she's breastfeeding. She just said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you get anybody who's in contact with me tested

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<v Speaker 1>for COVID, which he said yes. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of texts where Justin was totally sucking up to Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>and her by the way, just kissing the ring, kissing

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. He was trying because they are more powerful

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood than he was. Anyway, wouldn't you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>She came down with COVID so she missed Simon. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there's all the sweet email or texts from Justin saying,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, you don't feel better? Whatever I want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>And there were arguments over script changes she kept doing.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, I think he came into a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>he redacted or that means blacked out. You take a sharpie,

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<v Speaker 1>you black it out people's names on stuff who weren't

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this. But one of them said that he

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<v Speaker 1>came for a meeting with somebody who was a mega,

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<v Speaker 1>mega megastar. Can we figure out who that was? Who

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<v Speaker 1>was in the You think it's Taylor swift. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying with your lips right there? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know somebody, but it was Ryan Reynolds and a mega

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<v Speaker 1>star and Blake Lively telling him all these script changes

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<v Speaker 1>they should do in his movie and called them her

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<v Speaker 1>two dragons, and she referred to them as I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>my dragons. Were there later.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking Game of Thrones. If you know she's saying, she

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<v Speaker 3>was comparing herself to Kalisi.

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<v Speaker 1>And then another time she called herself, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a ball buster. Now you know that sort of sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like gendered language to be what if he had said

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pea buster. I think we can say ball

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get the email this week about I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was the one who made it happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, we do.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was about we're not allowed to say

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<v Speaker 1>any bad words. I saw it, and that there has

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<v Speaker 1>to be like eight or ten seconds forever well to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that button and make it go away.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was like a rider receipt attached to it's

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<v Speaker 2>the show to prove that we read it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I probably caused that. You did curse

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<v Speaker 1>on the air a couple of times. Wendy, it happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. I have quite a sailor mouth. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>was in the navy, so when I'm off radio, people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know this about me. Sailor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all good, Doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a word that begins with the letter F

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<v Speaker 1>that is both a verb and adjective analogy. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be used in so many ways. Okay, all I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say is is I want to know what they're

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<v Speaker 1>really fighting about, because it's not clear. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of tit for Tad and everybody going. But something happened

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<v Speaker 1>in that relationship because early on they were all friendly,

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<v Speaker 1>friendly and let's get together. You know, Emily and I

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<v Speaker 1>were really kind of loners and we'd love to be

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<v Speaker 1>friends with you guys, and Ryan saying yeah, let's do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah. All right, more is coming in

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Hey, Valentine's Day is also coming up. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're somebody who suffers from the Valentines Day blues, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got some advice for you when we come back. You

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<v Speaker 1>for half an hour, kind of like Trump did at

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<v Speaker 1>one of his campaigns, because it feels good. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great sound, Kayla.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, did you have a good week?

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I worked on my podcast next in the City of Angels.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure you tune in.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the title every wee Get podcast in the

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<v Speaker 1>City of Angels, Yes, which is where we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you talk about this week anything else?

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<v Speaker 3>Dating younger men being thirties and dating twenty somethings and

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, because you know what the boys call you

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<v Speaker 1>go work, work, work, work. So there's actually been research

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<v Speaker 1>in the Journal of Scientific Exploration said he was published

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<v Speaker 1>called the Valentine's Day Blues, and they found that the

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<v Speaker 1>blues are a very real psychological phenomenon, phenomenon, phenomenon, and

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<v Speaker 1>February fourteenth. Hey, do you know what situational depression is?

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<v Speaker 2>Depression based off certain specific situations.

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<v Speaker 1>chemical depression, postpartum depression, all seasonal, seasonal depression. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>fearing bad things coming up, a bad thing happened and

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<v Speaker 1>be cured once you fix the situation. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>According to this research, here are three reasons why Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>Day is a difficult event for very many people. First,

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<v Speaker 1>there is this pressure. Society has said that if you

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<v Speaker 1>extravagant displays of affection, and spend some money. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>according to a recent survey, Americans are expected to spend

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<v Speaker 1>get this, about fourteen point two billion on Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure on love?

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple weeks ago, oh, you were there when

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<v Speaker 1>Valentines and blah blah blah, and I'm like, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>for like three weeks. Why are you buying these shees?

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<v Speaker 1>I always did Valentine's they were my Valentines. So I

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<v Speaker 1>did a little fun thing with chocolate and stuffed animals

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<v Speaker 1>there is pressure to spend money, right, and for those

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. The other big one is I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to say it Instagram. You know, the researchers call it

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<v Speaker 1>post a great picture. I don't even know if Hulu

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a plan. Oh you do have a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be in Australia and I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a picture on Valentine's Day and everybody's gonna be jealous,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want that to happen. You, Oh, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna feel bad for anybody. So should I

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<v Speaker 1>only put like the ugly times.

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<v Speaker 2>There no people have to deal with their own feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not your okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the social comparison trap is a bad one too,

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<v Speaker 1>and then increased feelings of loneliness if you are single.

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day is not fun because it's all about couples, right.

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<v Speaker 1>One time I was in book tour years ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember, Kansas City, Cincinnati somewhere, and some bookstore owner

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<v Speaker 1>And she was going to do a whole event with

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<v Speaker 1>champagne and chocolates at her bookstore on Valentine's Day night.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think any single person would come out and say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my night, everybody see how I'm lonely? No,

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<v Speaker 1>she really was an old cat lady, Oh, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. Okay, listen to everybody. Practice some self compassion,

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<v Speaker 1>treat yourself with kindness. Understand that it's just a day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hallmark holiday, and you know what, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a day to give love to yourself. Plan ahead for

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day. Some kind of self care thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what is. Get a little manny patty, get a

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<v Speaker 1>little facial massage, get something, pick up something special to

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<v Speaker 1>eat at home with your cats. No. I stayed in

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<v Speaker 1>Airbnb this week, and it was like not an Airbnb,

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<v Speaker 1>They're a really nice older couple. As soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, reach out to other people, fortify your

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<v Speaker 1>social connections. You need to have strong social connections to

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<v Speaker 1>calls ahead of time and make the plans. Don't be shy.

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<v Speaker 1>Call the people up, reach out, friends, family, co workers,

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<v Speaker 1>say what are you doing? Also, Sigmund Freud came up

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<v Speaker 1>with this a long time ago. If you give to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else acts of kindness, it is a form of sublimation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a way of caring for yourself. So ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be lonely on Valentine's Day? Who should

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<v Speaker 1>Do plan ahead? Okay, we got a couple weeks now,

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<v Speaker 1>So plan ahead and call a therapist if you need to,

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<v Speaker 1>because it can bring the situational depression. Still depression, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back. One woman lost one point two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in a romance scam. You would not believe

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<v Speaker 1>how many others are losing money. I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how to avoid romance scams. When we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Waalsh Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 4>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty you have doctor Wendy Walsh with you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>lonely people are most vulnerable to romance scams. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually fell for a romance scam once.

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<v Speaker 2>Not you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't send any money. But that's here's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what you don't do. Here's all. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff experientially, folks, not just from textbooks. So years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>So I made the grave error that many many people

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<v Speaker 1>do of getting on the dating apps, getting a ping

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody and beginning a text relationship with them extan

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<v Speaker 1>changing phone numbers, starting texts. There were a couple phone calls,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were always problems with the calls and the

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<v Speaker 1>he was wealthy, and he said he didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the dating app. His sister put it

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<v Speaker 1>up for him. And you know the stories, right, A

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<v Speaker 1>million reasons why you couldn't get together, and blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And then one night I had a

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<v Speaker 1>He'd used a fake name of somebody who was a

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<v Speaker 1>done all this stuff and anyway, I figured out he

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<v Speaker 1>I said, text whatever because I disclose a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>parcel stuff like people have do that. Right. So he

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<v Speaker 1>So there is an extraordinary romance scam that has been

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<v Speaker 1>making headlines around the world, and sadly, the victim, the

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<v Speaker 1>can happen to anybody. Her name is Anne. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>to swindlers posing as get this. Have you seen the

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<v Speaker 1>So he had told her he was supposedly in love

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<v Speaker 1>and see who's going to be who's going to grab right.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's how a romance scam works. Two people meet

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<v Speaker 1>on a dating app. The scammer is able to determine

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<v Speaker 1>if the person is older, alone, vulnerable, needy, lonely, and

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly, highly empathetic. They're right back, Oh I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're like, oh interesting, because empathy is a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have very high intelligence, but you can also

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<v Speaker 1>be highly empathetic. And this person who's the scammer always

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<v Speaker 1>has a very good reason why they can't meet in

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<v Speaker 1>the real world. And it seems exotic because they're living

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<v Speaker 1>far away, they're on a military base, they're serving in

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<v Speaker 1>some covert mission and they can't tell you about, right

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<v Speaker 1>because it's classified information. Or they're just in another exotic

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<v Speaker 1>foreign country and they're a sexy man or woman from

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<v Speaker 1>some other country, right. And the first thing they the

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<v Speaker 1>scammers try to do is get you off the app

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<v Speaker 1>and onto any other platform because people will start reporting

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<v Speaker 1>the scammer and then the profile will get taken down.

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<v Speaker 1>So they want to get you off. If someone tries

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<v Speaker 1>to get you off the dating app, quickly gets your

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<v Speaker 1>phone number, wants to talk whatever. And they can't meet

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<v Speaker 1>in the real world and they already fit this profile,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should worry. Then starts the love bombing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never met anyone like you before. You're amazing. Wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like my soulmate. Now, remember, if you're a lonely person,

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<v Speaker 1>you will easily be enticed by this.

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<v Speaker 3>And this woman that fell for this one, she was

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<v Speaker 3>just going through a divorce, right, Yeah, so she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Super lonely and it happened to me when I had

447
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<v Speaker 1>little kids, knows home alone. Then comes the first crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>They test your ability to give by asking for a

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<v Speaker 1>small amount of money. There's some little thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened. My credit cards all got cut off,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it's okay. It's only eighty five dollars, honey,

452
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<v Speaker 1>I love you, you love me. It's eighty five dollars, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they continue to earn your trust and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>asked for bigger money. Listen, here's why it works. Love

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<v Speaker 1>Bombing creates neural hormones that cause delusions and an inability

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<v Speaker 1>to discern when you don't have your friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>and tribe weighing in on this person and you're alone

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<v Speaker 1>in your room texting away, you fall down a rabbits

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<v Speaker 1>a hole of fantasy. Right. Also, our brain is hijacked

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<v Speaker 1>by something called a sunk cost bias, which means you're

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<v Speaker 1>more willing to continue to invest in something you've already

462
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<v Speaker 1>invested in. You keep saying, well, it's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>real because of D D D. So here's what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do if you want to avoid a romance scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Be aware of your life's situation, understand that you may

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<v Speaker 1>be particularly vulnerable. Do not search outside yourge zip code,

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<v Speaker 1>and also do not have an online relationship. Insist on

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<v Speaker 1>meeting in the real world. By the way, video is

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<v Speaker 1>not enough. They can do deep fake videos zooms and

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<v Speaker 1>skypes and it's like a robot you're talking to it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a real person. So video is not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to literally meet in the real world. Bring

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<v Speaker 1>some friends, make it a whole group date. But do

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<v Speaker 1>not start disclosing personal things and going down that fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>rabbits hole all by without other people weighing in on

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship. And definitely, don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>ever ever send money to anybody who you've only met online.

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<v Speaker 1>Never just don't do it. Have a heart and fast

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<v Speaker 1>rule boundary. That's it, right. I feel so bad for

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<v Speaker 1>this woman. She lost her whole life savings. There have

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<v Speaker 1>been men who've been romance scammed by quote unquote beautiful women.

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<v Speaker 1>They've lost their houses, they've lost their pension. It's terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. When we come back, you think romance scams

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<v Speaker 1>are back bad, There's something else going on, especially for

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<v Speaker 1>young single people in the real world. It's called the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship experience. It has everything that involves a relationship except

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<v Speaker 1>the long term part. Let me explain. When we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty were live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 4>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked by a reporter about some trend that

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<v Speaker 1>they're now calling you know, it's all the same old stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it just keeps getting new names by

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<v Speaker 1>new relationship journalists. And this relationship journalist was calling it

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship experience. And basically she described to me, why

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<v Speaker 1>is it that some people enter a relationship with you

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out to be a short term relationship. But

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<v Speaker 1>they enter a relationship where they're doing everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. They're being attented of you, they're meeting

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<v Speaker 1>your friends and family, they're you know, having great fun dates,

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about the future together, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden they just disappear, Like why don't they just

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<v Speaker 1>say up front, Hey, I'm looking for some short and sueek.

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<v Speaker 1>So this journalist called it, why do people want the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship experience without having the real relationship? And the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is very simple. Short term trists parade as long term

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<v Speaker 1>relationships for one reason. It's the best way to get

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<v Speaker 1>a short term relationship, right. It is the oldest mating

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<v Speaker 1>strategy in history. The unspoken rule has been observed by

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<v Speaker 1>evolutionary psychologists around the world. We call that cross cultural research.

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<v Speaker 1>And the rule is this, the easiest way to obtain

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<v Speaker 1>a short term relationship is by pretending you want a

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<v Speaker 1>long term relationship. The appeal for the practitioner is simply

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to extract sex with little investment or sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of words, so you know, she asked

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<v Speaker 1>me like, well, you know, this is a time where

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<v Speaker 1>there's sexual freedom and it's totally okay to say I

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<v Speaker 1>want a short term relationship or I just want your body, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the lyrics to have the songs out there. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do they still need to disguise this fact? And the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is very simple because it increases their odds of

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<v Speaker 1>finding a low commitment sexual relationship. Look, I'm gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get mad at me if you want, but

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<v Speaker 1>the research supports what I'm about to tell you. There

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<v Speaker 1>are far more women that desire a secure, long term

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<v Speaker 1>attachment than women who are happy to hook up and

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<v Speaker 1>sally off. I should also add that some women who

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<v Speaker 1>say they're just looking for something casual are using that

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<v Speaker 1>as a mating strategy. They're trying to get men to

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with them through sex, which never works.

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<v Speaker 1>It fails one hundred percent of the time. So to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that women want more sex, I mean sorry, want

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<v Speaker 1>more long term relationship, want less short terms or casual

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<v Speaker 1>relationships sex. There is a famous human mating study that

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<v Speaker 1>has been replicated over and over for years, and what

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<v Speaker 1>they do is they take a young man he stands

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<v Speaker 1>on a college campus and he stops women all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some you know, recorder somewhere hiding under the tree,

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<v Speaker 1>writing notes about how many and what he said, and

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<v Speaker 1>he basically tells these women he flirts with them, chats

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<v Speaker 1>with the individual women, and he tells them that he's

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<v Speaker 1>really attracted to them, and then he asked them to

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<v Speaker 1>come back to his Would they like to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to his dorm and have sex? Virtually every woman declines. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when the researchers flip the gender, they have a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman stopping random men and offering sex, nearly all the

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<v Speaker 1>men say yes. Also, the researchers noted that the few

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<v Speaker 1>men who said no, who declined the sex, they usually

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<v Speaker 1>explained that they had a girlfriend. But those partnered men,

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<v Speaker 1>they still ask for the women's phone number in case

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<v Speaker 1>they ever broke up with their girlfriend. Right, So, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say this, I'm not making light of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it hurts when somebody purports to want

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<v Speaker 1>a long term relationship and then they ghost you, they

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<v Speaker 1>dump you, they disappear, and all the promises about the

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<v Speaker 1>future have disappeared. Right, But don't blame yourself. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a mating strategy. On the other side, you couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>seen it coming. But you can use this experience as

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<v Speaker 1>research research ladies and gents, because women play men too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not joking. When I was a young player, Chick,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say it a hat of time, I had my run. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young player, Chick. I remember my roommate

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<v Speaker 1>and I used to say, well, we can't have more

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<v Speaker 1>than we can't see more than five men each at once,

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<v Speaker 1>because we'll get all the stories mixed up. We go

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<v Speaker 1>on in a day to go like, so your sister

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<v Speaker 1>owns that store, I don't know. Oh, oh, I'm sorry,

571
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<v Speaker 1>you mess up the story. So five was all the

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<v Speaker 1>stories we could hold in our head. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>a player, Chick, I had a couple of guys fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love with me and get mad at me and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me flat out you played me. You played me,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, And I thought, hmm. I didn't say I

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<v Speaker 1>loved you, didn't say would be together forever and never.

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<v Speaker 1>You just made that assumption. So instead of being hurt

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<v Speaker 1>when this happens to you, because it happens to everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>ask yourself what tests that you can devise for the

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<v Speaker 1>future to test somebody's worthiness. You see, finding and keeping

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<v Speaker 1>a good mate involves plenty of strategy. And you are

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<v Speaker 1>here on the planet because your grandparents and their grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>had supreme mating skills. So you've got to channel your

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<v Speaker 1>ancestors because that's why you're here. They had their own,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the women, the grandmothers and grand great grandmothers. They

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<v Speaker 1>had their own environmental and biological pressures for women, a

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<v Speaker 1>narrow fertility window, no birth control, of the risk of

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<v Speaker 1>an unwanted motherhood, sexist attitudes of female sexuality. Okay, today

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<v Speaker 1>women have different environmental pressures too. Many guys who are players.

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<v Speaker 1>Technology designed now to extend your fertility window, like by

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<v Speaker 1>freezing your eggs, And I just think, ladies, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>figure this out. You're going to get played a couple times,

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<v Speaker 1>and men, you're going to get played a couple times.

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<v Speaker 1>But look no further than the bridal industry to see

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<v Speaker 1>that many, many people are mastering the mating game. And

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<v Speaker 1>if marriage is what you desire, you can learn the

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<v Speaker 1>strategies that you need. Right So my best advice is

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, slow things down, make potential mates sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>for you, sacrifice with time, treasure talents and all delay

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<v Speaker 1>the onset of first sex and a new relationship. See

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<v Speaker 1>if they're happy to wait for you. Watch and see

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<v Speaker 1>if they're sacrificing money, in time or labor to enhance

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Remember, people value what they have to work

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<v Speaker 1>for and give that potential meete the gift of getting

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<v Speaker 1>to work for you. Hey, when we come back, I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to go to my social media and I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to answer your questions that you send to me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't sent me a question, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>time to do it. Just log onto Instagram, go to

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<v Speaker 1>at d R Wendy Walsh at doctor Wendy Welsh and

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<v Speaker 1>send me a question. It'll be fun. Ah, weigh in,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a lot of fun, all right. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, you're listening to the Dr Wendy Walls Show

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<v Speaker 1>and KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh. You

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<v Speaker 1>can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty

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<v Speaker 1>from seven to nine pm on Sunday and anytime on

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