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here because I know, look, I get it, people are
uncomfortable with a lot of what we've been discussing over
the last two hours.
Speaker 2: The you know, and this is always the way.
Speaker 1: I remember having these uncomfortable conversations and arguments around Mark
Robinson's candidacy. I remember having them around Madison Cawthorn when
somebody quote on the right that you may like they
do something where they're at the center of a scandal
of some kind or whatever, and we start talking about
it and people don't want to hear it. They just
want me to kind of, you know, ignore it because
we're helping the left. But no, like, it's important to
understand the issue and the arguments, what people are saying,
but also what the facts are right. That's how we
arrive at truth. And I'm like, that's where I prefer
to be. That's the course I prefer to chart. But
I understand it, like I get it. There are people
that really, really like Tucker Carlson. I used to be
one of those people. I used to when he launched
the podcast. I'd watch his stuff.
Speaker 2: I used to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when he was a daily caller.
I remember when he was a crossfire. I used to
like Tucker Carlson. And now I don't want to give
him any kind of likes or follows or anything.
Speaker 2: Like that because I don't know what it is that
he's doing.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how or the motivation behind why he
uses his platform the way he uses it. I can
defend the way I use my platform. That's all I
can do. I can make the decisions for who I
put on the show, how I treat guests and callers,
people who disagree with me. You know, if I want
to bring somebody on to debate them and you know,
and have that kind of argument, that's my call, and
then I will stand by who I bring on the show,
which is which makes me very discerning on who I
bring on the show.
Speaker 2: And yes, that.
Speaker 1: Applies to callers, it applies to the text messages. Yeah,
because there are things that I'm not going to engage in.
That's my choice, and you know, I stay and by
those choices. So I understand. It's like this topic rubs
people the wrong way because they don't It's like mommy
and Daddy are fighting kind of a thing. I get it,
but this is now too important. I've been, like I
said in the earlier in the program, like I've been
watching this simmer and it's it's only gotten worse. And
I think it's only going to get worse because Donald
Trump is not going to be around as the president,
you know, after three years, and he may be far
more weakened after next year's midterm election. He could be
subjected to more impeachments, he could be investigated, lots of
subpoenas going out, all of that. If the Democrats take
the House. That's the reality and what always happens, whether
it's local politics, state politics, or national when the politician
in charge is weakened and people don't think that they've
got anything to gain anymore. By cozying up to that
power source, they will then try to make their own way, right,
They'll take their shots at the president.
Speaker 2: They will.
Speaker 1: If you are in like the influencer world, they will
attempt to, you know, carve out a larger chunk of
followers from that pool.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: In fact, hang on, I had a here.
Speaker 1: It is Eric Erickson, who's a talk show host out
of Atlanta, he says, and his show is carried here
in WBT.
Speaker 2: I believe right, Eric ericson weekends. He's on the weekends Sundays.
Speaker 1: He says, every populist movement collapses when the charismatic leader
goes away. The anti Semitic fissures are coming as Trump
heads to lame Duck's status. I await the crackup of
a movement that would welcome anti Semites in as part
of a coalition on the right. So what is he
saying there? If the anti Semites want to segregate themselves
and identify themselves as Grouper's and they want to attach
themselves to Nick Fouentes and that whole Influenzer podcast to
stand they want to go that direction, let them go,
Let them go, and whatever coalition exists afterwards. May not
be able to win at least initially, but they will
be able to win at some point. You welcome in
that that it's not far right, but this, this Nazi
boot liquor crowd you want them in. That's then then
I'm out, and a lot of other people are out too,
and you're not going to win either. And I suspect
that that's the point.
Speaker 2: But you know me, I'm all about solutions.
Speaker 1: So here's a senior editor at The Blaze, Daniel Horowitz.
He says, Okay, here's an action plan.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So for people who are like I don't want to
fund Israel, I don't want to support Israel, I hate
Israel for you know, non antisemitic reasons. I just I
don't like them, right, Okay, So here's an action plan.
You phase out all aid to Israel. Okay, get rid
all the aid. Now, remember most of that aid is
actually like military stuff that they buy from US, right,
So phase that out, okay, but also phase out the
agreement that they're not allowed to develop their own systems.
So now they're free to do whatever they want, right,
cut all the ties, let them do whatever they want.
They can build their systems, and we don't make them
buy our systems for the money, like, nothing like that. Okay, okay,
phase all that out. Also, we stop intervening in their
affairs in either direction. So we're not going to you know,
help them, We're not going to hurt them. We're just
like you're on your own, Israel, Like just lose our number,
delete our number from your phone. Okay, all right, phase
out aid to all of Israel's Arab neighbors as well
and competitors, because you know, it's kind of weird. We
never hear anybody complaining about all the money we give
to Egypt, and we give them a lot, right, nobody's
calling for us to cut off funding to Egypt.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we have.
Speaker 1: But fair is fair, So no more money to any
of those countries, right, so we defund Israel, but we
defund all of the Arab nations too. No more money
to any of anybody, to anyone, right, Just you cut
out all of that, okay. APAC hear about this this
organization all the time. Ban all foreign lobbying, no exceptions.
I know Polish Americans they have an APAC like organization.
You guys, cut off band, none of it not a lot.
I know you're American, but no pro Hungary, Nope, anybody
that's from another country.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: Cut it all out, and then also stop trying to
promote any kind of a peace process for Israel.
Speaker 2: We're done.
Speaker 1: You guys figured out yourselves, right, and then we just
go back to focus on domestic policy.
Speaker 2: Right, that's America first. Right.
Speaker 1: Anybody who really believes in not intervening there and putting
America first should adopt this. So how come we don't
hear this? I will just leave that question out there
because I don't know the answer. I'm not going to
describe motives to people I don't know. But I think
that's a fair plan, he suggests, right, completely get out
of all of it and let them do what they're
going to do, and we don't weigh in on their behalf.
We don't help them, we don't hurt them, but we
also don't help anybody else in that region. Now, of course,
it also then makes me wonder does China step into
that role and start helping countries in that region too?
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I said, I wasn't going to keep talking about it,
but people want to talk about it. So from the
text line, Pete, I enjoy your show because I love
your logic.
Speaker 2: What logic.
Speaker 1: I try not to employ that too often, and that
you work on facts. What the way the crowd at
Old Miss looked at jd Vance was remarkable. The younger
crowd is going to the Republican side, and you are correct.
It's only smart to get rid of or to shed evil.
I want to say this on the air. Whoops, sorry,
because I don't think the left has realized they have
lost the younger vote. Oh they do, they do know.
I don't think they get it. I don't want to
tip them off. They do, and they have lost they
are well, they haven't lost it. They are losing youth
voters because they have gone so far radical. They've lost
a lot of older voters too. They've lost in like
every demographic. So Ato three number says Pete. May God
help us if we reach the level of anti Semitism
that was reached in the nineteen thirties that resulted in
the catastrophic holocaust in World War two, we are in
a load of trouble because that'll be World War three.
This is from Jennifer, who says it seems to me
Tucker's arrogance has dramatically increased since he left Fox.
Speaker 2: Maybe, so.
Speaker 1: Let Pam and know that the congestion on Wilkinson Boulevard
is because the BBQ king is packed. It's their last day. Yeah,
they're closing. So Danny, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Hello, Danny, Hey, how you doing today.
Speaker 2: I'm all right, Harriet, I'm doing fine.
Speaker 4: I'm a retired marine. I first of all, I appreciate
I appreciate what you said about you know, by rude,
because a lot of people don't talk about all the
Marines that were killed over there. And I was over
there and I was on patrol. I'd be dead too,
So I do appreciate that. Sure, and go see my
brothers back and the saying but uh on the thing
by Tucker Carlson, Man, I couldn't agree with you. I'm
I'm so disappointed in that guy. Yeah, because I used
to watch him on Fox and I liked him. Luck,
But I'm sorry if you're going to get Israel, no, no,
And I'm not a person to go to church a
lot of time, even God, But no, that they're just
trying to defend themselves, and what do you expect them
to do? We wouldn't take all the stuff that they
have to deal with. So I mean America first means
we do support them. I mean, that's just my opinion.
I do believe that they support We should support Israel
because Israel's good. These other people they if they weren't
trying to kill it Jews, they'd be trying to kill us.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: So I mean I would say, no, no country is
good or bad in you know, without exception, right, I
mean countries and governments.
Speaker 2: I should say governments, right.
Speaker 1: The governments are made up of people, and people do
bad things, right, So obviously there are things that the country,
the government of Israel does that I'm not going to
agree with all of that stuff. I don't follow Israeli politics.
I don't know what's going on over there in their
you know, the inner workings of their govern I'm sure,
I am absolutely sure they do stuff that I would
disagree with. My government does stuff that I disagree with.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I agree with America right, that doesn't
like And the idea that that we shouldn't have any
allies to me is illogical.
Speaker 2: It's absurd.
Speaker 1: You want allies, you don't want to be alone, because
if you don't have friends, then as they get picked
off one by one by authoritarian, communist or as lomist regimes.
Then eventually you got nobody left to help, you know,
So like that's the idea, is that that's the time
for choosing that Reagan talked about.
Speaker 4: I agree with that one hundred percent. Yeah. I mean
there are a lot of things. When I was in
the Marine Corps, there are plenty of things that our
government ordered and alsos in front of us ordered. It
just wasn't right. I'm not talking about I'm talking about
as far as safe or help in our own military,
putting my self in danger. There are a lot of
things I don't agree with. I'm just talking. I don't
know the right word, but maybe the basic of it
that for what they stand for I agree in, and
what a Maria stands for I agree in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agree for Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I understood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just yeah, just just to clarify, yeah, I
just said what I said to clarify it. But because
you know, you'll you say that and then people are like, oh,
Israel did this bad thing, and so ha, you're wrong
on everything, and no, you're not wrong on everything. Like
it it is one of the only what it is
the only Western nation that exists over in that part
of the world. They are the military might of that
area of the world. I would rather them be friendly
to us. That doesn't mean that I have to agree
with everything that they do, and it doesn't mean that
I want to, you know, send US troops to defend
Israel and all this other stuff.
Speaker 4: So amen, Yeah, all right, I agree. I agree with
he just one of the thing right, pass and stuff.
I just you know, people that think that that part
of the world so great in the way they trade people,
would they please go over there and vis at one time? Jacking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Danny, I appreciate the call, buddy, have a great weekend.
Thanks for your service. To appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Welcome home, Thank you man.
Speaker 1: Hi brother, take it easy. Let me go and get
Mark on real quick. Hello Mark, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hello Pete. Hello, yeah, yes, all, this is very everything
you have with your guest today is very familiar to
me in my own my own being my own self
educated way of after turning, after having my own made
my own traite to have take a critical thinking class
as a freshman in college and I just begin a
student in that and have supplemented my supplemented one necessary
my original textbook. I want to talk about this because
in evangelicalism is covered by Christianity Yesterday and Ralph Read's
rhetoric about it. Knowing Christianity today ran an art was
talked about. But we've had great things on popular on
popular cults back in the nineties, and I do have
those issues containing those articles away. But that is getting
I want to segue off of. This is because the
Wallpole had to recant a something happened in the nineties
when we had the midterms or the first term of
Bill Clinton. Michael Weisskoff and the wall pos stated that
we talked about televangelists and faith and action. This is
related by Ralph reading his book Active Faith being final,
popular televangelists being poor, uneducated, and easy to command. This
is known as the Mott Bailey trick, an alternate between
two different positions of which you call be the same
name when not hard pressed. Uses the expansive but hard
to define one to make points when attacked, retreat to
easily defend, but doesn't support your claims. One.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about the Mott Bailey Yeah, Yeah, I've
talked about the Mott Bailey tactic in particularly on the
woke left. You make some outlandish claim, people attack you
for it. That's the bailey or that's the Mott. I
always get them confused. But it conjures up the image
of the old medieval castle right where you got like
the farmland on the outside of the walls. You go
out there, you make some outlandish claim, you say something terrible,
you get attacked for it. Then you retreat back inside
the walls into the tower. And that's a more easily
defensible position. And so you say things like, well, what's
the matter. Don't you care about equality?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And then it was like, well, of course I care
about equality, or like on the trans thing, it was,
you know, let's get puberty blockers to five year olds.
And it's like, well, that's crazy, why would we do that?
And it's like, well, why do you, like, don't you
support children's healthcare? And that's the more easily defensible position.
Speaker 3: Right, Gender is a social condition. Uh, Atheism is just
a lack of belief of God, a supposedly defensible position.
And then stating equivalent to Marx and saying religion is
the opiate of the masses, a belief in God is
a delusion. So now and a modern rhetoric is stating
that white supremacy is falsely equivocated to be a toxic masculinity,
and Christian nationalism being false equivocated to Christian Zionism, and
Charlie the I got referenced the Charlie kirkvido that he
dismantles uh dismantles white privilege and white nationalists Christian nationalism
that he dismantles that. But I've got to well, I've
got to listen to it.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to say, yeah, real quick because I'm
already late for news. Yeah, just so real quick.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you Pete for your time. I've got
a graphic. I'll email it to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I appreciate it. Mark, have a good weekend, sir.
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So all right to shift gears, Because I've been talking
about Donald Trump, about the uh, the fact that he's
you know, potentially at risk of becoming a lame duck
president after the midterm elections. This has been part of
the reason why Republicans have been redistricting throughout the country.
It's not that's not the only reason. I've gone over
these reasons before. You've got, you know, the census count
that was erroneous back in twenty twenty, under counting half
a dozen red states and over counting half a dozen
blue states, which led to more seats being allocated for
for Democrats than they otherwise should have had. Then you
also have the illegal alien population that is counted as
part of the census. And then you also have the
fact that Texas had to redraw their districts, which then
prompted California to take its steps. And then Trump came
out It's like, okay, if everyone's going to redistrict, then
everybody should go ahead and do it to try to
maintain the Republican majority. And so that's where we are.
North Carolina did this. They redrew one district. Right now,
we have fourteen congressional seats, ten of them are held
by Republicans. There's one competitive district district one currently represented
by Democrat Don Davis. It's in the sort of northeast
side of the state, and now it's a more competitive
district for Republicans, So they could pick up one of
those seats now, and if they hold their others, could
be an eleven to three congressional map. It's already got
a lawsuit against it, and now it's picked up another.
This from Will Doran at WRL dot com. Opponents of
North Carolina's new congressional districts aka Democrats, filed a new
legal challenge that leans on a new interpretation of the
US Constitution. So that's always that's always fun when you're
just making up stuff. This is a new way of
thinking about the Constitution in the hopes of blocking the
map from being used in the election. The new districts
already face a racial gerrymandering challenge, which was filed the
day after the map passed into law. The newest challenge
focuses on a new legal theory. The allegation is that
state lawmakers, in drawing the new map violated the first
Amendment rights of Eastern North Carolina voters. Amendment rights okay.
The new complaint made as part of an ongoing lawsuit
over racial gerrymandering in the state. Alleges that lawmakers in
this newest version of the map retaliated against Eastern North
Carolina voters for speech or association or something. It's a
First Amendment claim and so they yeah, so that this
is somehow retaliation against Eastern North Carolina voters for supporting
a black Democrat in the twenty twenty four elections. That
claim has no evidence to support it. That claim has
no merit, okay none, there's no evidence of that. Republicans
have been very clear they drew the district in order
to make it more Republican. It didn't matter what race
he was. It already was sort of a competitive district anyway.
They just made it more likely that a Republican would win.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I also would note that this lawsuit is brought by
the usual suspects State Chapter of the NAACP Common Cause.
It's another organization ACLU, as well as the Southern Coalition
for Social Justice. That is the outfit that was started
by Anita Earles. Anita Earles was then appointed to the
State Supreme Court. When she was appointed to the court,
Alison Riggs took over. Alison Riggs also appointed to the
State Supreme Court, both by Governor Roy Cooper, my good
friend Ray Earls and Riggs, the two Democrats on the
State Supreme Court. They will sit and hear a case
brought by the organization that they led. I do not
expect them to recuse themselves. I also don't think they'll
fare very well goes to the State Supreme Court. But
we shall see, we shall see. The claim is that
Republicans are punishing voters for not supporting the Republican It
cites anti voter retaliation as a reason the map should
be blocked from being used in twenty twenty six or beyond,
calling it a violation of the first fourteenth and fifteenth Amendment.
Speaker 2: So there you go. So now, if.
Speaker 1: You are the party in charge, you draw a partisan
redistricting map, which you are allowed to do. US Supreme
Court ruled on that you're allowed to draw maps based
on partisan data. Republicans did that. But now that's going
to be deemed as retaliation. This is where we are,
a novel approach, a new legal theory that this is
now retaliation.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: All right, if you're listening to this show, you know
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Here's a little segment we like to call pregaming with
Brett Brett Winterble, host of the show The Brett Winterable Show.
Coincidentally enough, from three to six here on WBT, Brett
how art thou.
Speaker 5: Sir, I'm great, How are you?
Speaker 2: I am I'm great as well.
Speaker 5: You've done one heck of a show today, by the way,
thank you.
Speaker 2: Are you going to cover any of that material today,
any of that topic?
Speaker 5: Tangentially, I'd say, yeah, yeah, it sort of tangentially.
Speaker 2: All right, I did you know? I just didn't want
to steal any of your thundas.
Speaker 5: I don't want to. I don't want to copy your hustle. Yeah,
so you know it's like.
Speaker 1: This, Well, I mean, we do get the same talking
points that we have to cover.
Speaker 5: Don't say that because people are really gonna believe that
we get the talking points sent to us by George
Sorows today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: So this actually came up at the News and Bruise event,
and I was actually uh uh impressed with your attire
at the event. For folks who did not attend the
News and Bruise event, Brett did not strip this time's right,
but he had he had quite the suit going. He's
a Halloween suit, so it's very very dapper. But this
kind of came up at the very end. And I
have this piece by Reagan Reese at the Daily Caller
that Trump is calling for Republicans to eradicate the filibuster
as the government shut down drags on for nearly a month.
Speaker 2: So what say you, sir?
Speaker 1: Are you on board with this idea to eradicate the filibuster?
Speaker 5: So here's my answer on this, because I have thought
about this. I thought about it in the last couple
of days. I am one of those people that loves
to go way too far. It's just it's my nature.
And so I would love to see this happen, except
for one thing. If we blow up the this this
you know, this effort, you know that Markowski and all
the losers are going to bail out, They're not going.
You really can't do it. You have to have people
who are rock ribbed and ready to take the heat.
And I think it's it would be a very, very
difficult thing because you will have squishes, will who will
just go with the Democrats beyond even you know, the
cratering it in that regard. And I do think the
president he has a point, he has a point in
regarding getting this thing done. But at the same time,
he's a one term guy, he's not going to have
to face the barbs and arrows. So you know, we
have to be ready for that because if AOC becomes
the vice president and they do, oh, it's entirely possible.
Who knows what could I mean, we could have we
could have Mundami mania.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Wait, so do you think
she runs against Schuma in New York? Do you think
she tries to primary him? Or does she? Does she
hold her fire and try to campaign, go right for
Potus and then accept the Vpotus?
Speaker 5: No? No, no, no, I can see her run running against it.
But I think I'm not. Everybody seems to think that
Schumer's up in twenty six. I think he's twenty eight.
I mean, we have this guy for a while, I think,
and that's and that stuff problem.
Speaker 1: When is Chuck Schumer up for reelection? Tell me a
I and don't hallucinate an answer twenty twenty eight? You
are correct, sir.
Speaker 5: Dang, it makes it so much worse, so much worse
that we are that is going to be voting Eddin.
I mean, it's going to be incredible.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you think she do you think she runs
against him in twenty eight or does she go for
for potus.
Speaker 5: No, I know it's a good question. I don't know
she could go for it. Well, no, no, she can't
go for it in twenty six, right, No in twenty eight,
in twenty eight, yeah, I think I think she does
it all. I think she gets she's gonna knock him
out first, and then she's gonna run. She wants to
be president.
Speaker 1: I mean it's right, so she wo knock him out
in twenty eight, yeah, yeah, and then in what thirty two?
Speaker 2: Probably yeah, because then.
Speaker 1: She would give up receipt if we get there, right, well,
we're not even going to get to twenty six, we're
gonna get to twenty six.
Speaker 2: No, you've been talking about this this meteor.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, to sea. That's fake news. That's fake news.
I pulled it back earlier this week.
Speaker 2: You pulled back a meteor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I said, I'm not really on board with
this now because I think it's just a dead hunk
of you know, rock that's going around. I don't think
it's got the Draco's in it and all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 1: Like people were, wait a minute, are you saying then
that that a meteor is just a hunk of rock
all this time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, third Rock from the Sun.
Speaker 2: No, just kidding, it came from the sun.
Speaker 5: No it didn't. It's behind the sun right now. And
do not believe any of the videos you're seeing, because
the chicoms tried to put a video and it was
like the thing behind it, and everybody's like, well, who's
filming this, Like, where's the filming coming from? Stop it?
Speaker 2: Bruce Willis.
Speaker 5: Bruce Willis, Oh, well done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up on that. He's on the Rock, as
I understand it.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, Yeah, well, I mean rock is a happily
married man. I don't know that Bruce Willis would be
on the Rock.
Speaker 1: Not that there's anything wrong with that. Okay, all right,
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