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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>of Conspiracy, and I am the Cajun night and ravingly

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<v Speaker 2>and good God almighty y'all. As we continue to dive

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<v Speaker 2>into the chicanery in the buffoonery of the Epstein Files,

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<v Speaker 2>more and more things just keep coming to light.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, so many different angles to this story, actually, so

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<v Speaker 1>many different things that he was intertwined with, so many

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<v Speaker 1>people finding new weird like one one email, things that

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<v Speaker 1>lead into giant rabbit holes. So yeah, kind of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>what everybody else is like focused on and everyone's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of digging in different areas.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I gotta tell you, as conspiracy people, we

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<v Speaker 2>have been validated in so many of the wild claims

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<v Speaker 2>that we've been saying for years now when we say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the elites are cooking and eating people and children, and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody thinks that we're crazy anymore because the files talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that pretty much explicitly. There's a few current terms

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<v Speaker 2>and things where they're using you know, food references. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize that all the wealthy elites of the world

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<v Speaker 2>were like serious beef jerky enthusiasts who fucking guessed that

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<v Speaker 2>cause who fucking knew? But whatever. Right, So all the

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<v Speaker 2>things combined, all the things put together here, there's another

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<v Speaker 2>one that is coming to light as of right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That honestly, and we kind of talked about it in

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<v Speaker 2>passing Raven Lee. You and I have never been shy

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that we do not fuck with nor

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<v Speaker 2>do we trust AI.

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<v Speaker 1>No, right, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's we're not in a secret, you know, now, using

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<v Speaker 2>it for creating an AI image for some artwork or something,

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<v Speaker 2>or using it as a tool when doing certain types

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<v Speaker 2>of research, just to see what comes up and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>get a little bit of a direction to go through. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think you do that, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of us well, except for the imaging I doing that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big super fan of it. It's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I mean, some of them are cute, not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie, but like, you know it it's an easy

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<v Speaker 1>way of making graphics, I'll say that. But like when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to research, it's so wrong though most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and people are like h chat GBT told me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well wait, that's not incorrect, Like it's not correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't really, And a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>meta stuff, which is interesting, that's incorrect too. Or it

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<v Speaker 1>gives you, like a certain narrative or like a certain

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<v Speaker 1>direction to push you in instead of giving you, like

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<v Speaker 1>all the information all at once, which I find to

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<v Speaker 1>be really interesting. How can an AI robot have a

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<v Speaker 1>bias when it gives you certain information? But that was

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<v Speaker 1>not all topics either.

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<v Speaker 2>So as I'm looking at what I'm doing a chat

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<v Speaker 2>GPT image for instance, right, I was trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>a clip for when we had Nurse Nicoleon on cool

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<v Speaker 2>cool Cool, I type in or I'm sorry, cut, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Backtrack a little bit here in the world news. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>typing in images of counterfeit God, and it comes up

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<v Speaker 2>with a thing, no problems, no problems. H Digital God

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<v Speaker 2>or cyber God or something like that, came up with

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<v Speaker 2>an image, no problems, pictures of a kid and a mom,

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<v Speaker 2>all the stuff, no problems, no things whatsoever. I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking for an image of vaccines cause miscarriages, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, this thing that's been making these images

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<v Speaker 2>for me now started talking back and giving me an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion that I didn't fucking ask for, and said that

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<v Speaker 2>it couldn't do it because of this, that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the third.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, I didn't ask you if it's valid

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<v Speaker 2>or not. I could ask you. I just asked you

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<v Speaker 2>for a digital cyborg. God you didn't get me guff then.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm asking you for an image a sign, if

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<v Speaker 2>you will, whether you believe in it or not, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a problem I'm talking about. I need a sign

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<v Speaker 2>that says these words. So I could take it, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>throw a couple little things on it and put it up. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it would not. It simply would not put it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And so did the same thing for Elon or Epstein. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it gave me a lot of shit for trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything with Ebstein because I was I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well I'm going to add add this, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was trying to find certain articles and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was I was like, well, I'll just add

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<v Speaker 1>a clip of his face doing this. Nope, it would not.

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<v Speaker 1>It would not do that. It would not do Elon,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't do the Clintons. I tried to do it

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<v Speaker 1>with Obama and Trump and Bush and it was like, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, okay, Well, as far as why

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<v Speaker 2>I won't do anything towards Elon, I think I might

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<v Speaker 2>know why. What if I was to.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you real shit, with all of.

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<v Speaker 2>The proof and the evidence, Jeffrey Epstein is confirmed the

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<v Speaker 2>godfather of AI as we know.

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<v Speaker 1>It today, I would agree, Well, that's because I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>been researching into it. But before I started researching heavily

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<v Speaker 1>into it, I will say I was wondering because of

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<v Speaker 1>the way he is with scientists and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I did not know that he was this heavily

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<v Speaker 1>embedded when it comes to you AI and data collection

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<v Speaker 1>in all of these areas and things like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>even that, I feel like you did more research into

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<v Speaker 1>that because I, you know, didn't dig too deep into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's definitely interesting for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Good cult members, we are going to be taking a

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<v Speaker 2>trip back to two thousand and two. DARPA, Facebook, NASA

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna make their entrance into this conversation. PayPal Oh

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<v Speaker 2>well yeah, I guess absolutely PayPal LinkedIn all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>This goes very far back, And keep in mind in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two, nine to eleven had just happened

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<v Speaker 2>when this big shindig took place. At Jeffrey Epstein's island estate,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm call it that just to be as of

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<v Speaker 2>this moment, allegedly, quote unquote, the people he invited to

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<v Speaker 2>this soiree had no idea of what in who this

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<v Speaker 2>guy was. I find this incredibly hard to believe. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm calling bullshit on that. But fine, fine, because he

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been a convicted pedophile just yet, right, he hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>been caught it with any of this stuff out in

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<v Speaker 2>the public just yet. However, when you're telling me you're

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<v Speaker 2>inviting hundreds of top tier people to your island for

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<v Speaker 2>a common sentence symposium, and you're telling me that there

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<v Speaker 2>was not children walking around or teenagers that are way

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<v Speaker 2>too young to be there walking around and just nobody noticed,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having a real real hard time swallowing that pill.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably didn't have him out, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you get a whole bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't know, Really, you're not gonna air all

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<v Speaker 1>of your dirty laundry right out in the open.

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<v Speaker 2>Keeping making this was Epstein was homies with Clinton when

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<v Speaker 2>he was president in the nineties. This in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and two. So, like true, the top tier people that

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<v Speaker 2>needed to know what was going on here and keep

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<v Speaker 2>it hush hush, knew what was going on there was

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<v Speaker 2>keeping a hush huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're inviting a whole bunch of unknown people

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<v Speaker 1>that are in data fields and things like that. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to display your like heinous shit right out

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<v Speaker 1>in the open. I think this is more or less

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<v Speaker 1>of tricking people into believing you're a great person with

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<v Speaker 1>great intentions and that all these like minded individuals need

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<v Speaker 1>to come together because we see the writing on the walls,

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<v Speaker 1>so we need to push forth forth into this new

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<v Speaker 1>expansion of human consciousness and innovation. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that he's going to display all of his shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what did he have on the walls? Who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of a weird artwork maybe was out. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it was strategic in how he had this entire

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<v Speaker 1>thing set up to get these people in bed with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's possible. I'm not saying it's confirmed that there was

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<v Speaker 2>some some pedophilic shit going on at this get together,

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<v Speaker 2>and O two, I'm saying I find it hard to

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<v Speaker 2>believe that maybe after the the people that didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what was up left, the people that stayed behind an

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<v Speaker 2>extra day or two. I don't know. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but cutting too all these things. This common sense symposium

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna read more about here in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But all right, put down the back burner for just

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<v Speaker 2>a second, because in two thousand and two, when they

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about what we're gonna do with AI to

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<v Speaker 2>make it have common sense, human common sense, take that

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<v Speaker 2>to the side for just a second. Ravenly, you've been

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<v Speaker 2>around the block a time or two. Did you ever

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<v Speaker 2>have a MySpace?

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody made me a MySpace. It was my best friend

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<v Speaker 1>that passed away. She was obsessed with it. I literally

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<v Speaker 1>probably logged onto it like five times my whole life. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't big into it. You gotta understand, I have

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<v Speaker 1>never been super big into social media anything like that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, okay, but yes, I know what MySpace is. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I had one. She like always did all the cool

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<v Speaker 1>things and the upgrades and had all those weird codes,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like down bringing knew everything. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had one. I just didn't really care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so for those of us that were around during

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<v Speaker 2>the MySpace era and had a MySpace and like had

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<v Speaker 2>your people in your top five and like had the

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<v Speaker 2>songs going on in the background, were changing the backgrounds

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<v Speaker 2>and like doing stuff to personalize this for you yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the whole nine. There was playlists that

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<v Speaker 2>you could have and when somebody goes on your MySpace,

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<v Speaker 2>they're listening to your jams. It was. It was dope.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really fucking cool. Right, all of this to say, objectively,

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<v Speaker 2>MySpace was way better than Facebook, like hands down, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I understand that they tried. MySpace really tried

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<v Speaker 2>to have like a comeback story there. Hel mac Miller

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<v Speaker 2>got sponsored by them for a second. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>whole it was. It was an attempt. But I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why MySpace went by the wayside and why Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere skyrocketed and everybody was on it. Even

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<v Speaker 2>after MySpace got really wealthy investors to try to revitalize

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<v Speaker 2>it and retool it, the entire Internet laughed and was like, sorry, homie, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>we're on Facebook. We don't care about my Space. That's

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't have government behind them, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>DARPA behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is in DARPA. CIA.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, although CIA uses DARPA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah uses DARPA. So DARPA some breakdown DARPA a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit for people that don't don't actually know, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Break that down right after I explained this point, because

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<v Speaker 2>most people have never heard of this I had before

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<v Speaker 2>I did this research. So DARPA had this thing called

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<v Speaker 2>life log in it went. It started in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three. Keep in mind the Epstein conversation with the

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<v Speaker 2>boys on how to do things with the AI happen

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<v Speaker 2>in two. DARPA's life log really got hot and heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>In O three it was killed, shut down, gone February fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four. Do you happen to know off

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<v Speaker 2>started February fourth, two thousand and four to replace DARPA's

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, so we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Good cult members and all of this, whether you want

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<v Speaker 2>He's mentioned in it. Peter Teal is mentioned in it,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter til has everything to do with Epstein in this.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you will get to.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell them about it. Raven, we are starting Fahrenheit by

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, absolutely, And also we do have that top tier,

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<v Speaker 2>Without further ado, let's talk about Epstein being the godfather

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it, all right. So to get started here,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about DARPA. All right, So DARPA in and

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<v Speaker 2>to explain. So DARPA stands for the Defense Advanced Research

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<v Speaker 2>Projects Agency. Have you ever heard of skunk Works? It's

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<v Speaker 2>like an affiliate of DARPA. And basically they make really

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<v Speaker 1>Hell ya, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>And so the heart attack gun, for instance, that the

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<v Speaker 2>CIA acknowledged was real in the nineteen seventies, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>so where like it's it's impossible to trace. They acknowledged

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<v Speaker 2>that was Oh you've never seen that, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'll show you on YouTube. They brought it to

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<v Speaker 2>straight up He's like, yeah, this is the CIA's heart

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<v Speaker 2>attack gun. It's very simple device, and like I'm sorry, what.

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<v Speaker 2>the thing we have. That was in the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that movie with Will Smith and the Spy

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<v Speaker 1>great movie. Spy in Disguise or something. I think it's called. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets like Will Smith is character. It's a cartoon one,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it sounds like a great movie. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sully Will Smith and Jada basically they were having a

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<v Speaker 1>They could just not air at that episode, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's anyways, let's get back to bed beside.

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<v Speaker 2>The point anyway. So DARPA itself, okay, is a research

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<v Speaker 2>and Development Agency of the United States Department of Defense,

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<v Speaker 2>Soviets launch of Sputnik in fifty seven. So, the Russians

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<v Speaker 2>third grader's imagination desk in his notebook. We need that

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<v Speaker 2>in real life. And then there's these psychopaths within the

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<v Speaker 2>government agencies just doing a rail of cocaine and be like, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>mister President, what you need and like, there's no idea

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, why not you have endless disposal of money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So so with this being said, DARPA launched Lifelog, So

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<v Speaker 2>was to be an ontology based subsystem that captures, stores,

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<v Speaker 2>and makes accessible the flow of one's persons, of one

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<v Speaker 2>system capabilities. All right on, that's a big way of

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<v Speaker 2>saying this. They basically wanted to be able to see

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<v Speaker 2>all things. Who do they interact with, what do they do,

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<v Speaker 1>The database, it's a database, massive database.

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<v Speaker 2>This was pretty much the precursor for it was This

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<v Speaker 2>was the design phase of it. They didn't have it

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<v Speaker 2>nailed down, they didn't have it perfected yet, but this

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<v Speaker 2>of an individual's life in terms of events, states, and

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<v Speaker 2>take in all of a subject's experience, from phone numbers

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<v Speaker 1>That's not terrifying. But like, you know, shift now to

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<v Speaker 1>at our phones, taking pictures NonStop of us and what

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm pretty positive I'm gonna have to get a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I don't even know what I've done,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is definitely pissed at me. So I will

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<v Speaker 1>say they, you know, got there. They got around it though,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've heard lifelog quickly, but I'm not. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember though, what happened to it. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put, you know, lay the track, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>for the train. They were trying to lay the railroad tracks.

420
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<v Speaker 2>But it needed more juice, They needed more people. And

421
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<v Speaker 2>this is before they had a capable AI system that

422
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<v Speaker 2>could do all of these things and know what to

423
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.559
<v Speaker 2>look for for an individual person. So let's just get

424
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<v Speaker 2>into it here. It says goals and capabilities. Lifelog aimed

425
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<v Speaker 2>to compile a massive electronic database of every activity and

426
00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 2>relationship a person engages in. This was to include credit

427
00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:22.039
<v Speaker 2>card purchases, websites, visited the content of telephone calls and

428
00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.319
<v Speaker 2>emails sent and received, scans of faxes and postal mail

429
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<v Speaker 2>sent and received, instant messages sent and received, books and magazines, read,

430
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:36.640
<v Speaker 2>television and radio selections, physical location recorded via wearable GPS sensors.

431
00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Biomedical data captured through wearable sensors. The high level goal

432
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<v Speaker 2>of this data logging was to identify quote preferences, plans, goals,

433
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:52.519
<v Speaker 2>and other markers of intentionality. Intentionality is a very big

434
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>keyword here. Here's the deal. The Patriot Act had just

435
00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:01.039
<v Speaker 2>got signed into law. Basically, nine to eleven took place. Cool, cool,

436
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and we already know nine to eleven was an inside job.

437
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:05.839
<v Speaker 2>But for the conversation, we're going off of what the

438
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:10.279
<v Speaker 2>American public was really like on mass believing at this time, right,

439
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:13.240
<v Speaker 2>and so what we had a terrorist attack happened, we

440
00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>gotta find if there's gonna be sleeper cells that are

441
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<v Speaker 2>gonna just get a call to arms and start a

442
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>global into fauda in America. We need our government to

443
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<v Speaker 2>make sure that we are safe over here. George Bush

444
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 2>signs into law the Patriot Act, which gave any three

445
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 2>letter agency and even in including your local police department,

446
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Speaker 2>the ability to spy on you without giving you any

447
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.400
<v Speaker 2>heads up that this is what they're doing. Right. They

448
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<v Speaker 2>don't have to tell you that they're giving that they're

449
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<v Speaker 2>trailing you. They won't have to tell you that your

450
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<v Speaker 2>phone is being tapped, they don't have to tell you

451
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<v Speaker 2>that they're monitoring everything. It's not required because it's for

452
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<v Speaker 2>public safety.

453
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<v Speaker 1>It's for the greater.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Good raven obviously, and so this was the going trend.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Now with that level level of audacity and that level

456
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<v Speaker 2>of the White House backing the three letter agencies, DARPA

457
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>set to work to create lifelog and they weren't just

458
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<v Speaker 2>going after they were trying to get the intentionality of

459
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<v Speaker 2>a person, so if they could find out. Let's say

460
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<v Speaker 2>you have a group of domestic terrorists and you know,

461
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<v Speaker 2>for this example, let's say the Klan. Let's say you

462
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<v Speaker 2>have a confirmed member of the KKK, so you send

463
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<v Speaker 2>your data to monitor this person. You want to know

464
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<v Speaker 2>where this person works, where they where do they go

465
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<v Speaker 2>to eat, what are the conversations of their phone calls,

466
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<v Speaker 2>how often do they meet up with other clan members?

467
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<v Speaker 2>Because they are a listed domestic terrorist group. So okay, fine,

468
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<v Speaker 2>And even if you're not going to take an action

469
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<v Speaker 2>against the group, you want to be in the loop

470
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<v Speaker 2>in case they start talking about doing some sort of

471
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<v Speaker 2>a mass act of violence, you want to be ahead

472
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<v Speaker 2>of it or at least decide if you're going to

473
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<v Speaker 2>let it go through to fruition or not essentially reality.

474
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<v Speaker 2>But okay, fine, who can argue with that, Right, you're

475
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<v Speaker 2>stopping the Klan from doing some sort of a burning

476
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.319
<v Speaker 2>of something or you know, violence against somebody. Ay, cool,

477
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 2>good things, but it doesn't just stop there. They're wanted

478
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<v Speaker 2>to see who was potentially going to become a political dissident,

479
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.680
<v Speaker 2>whether they already were or not, because there's certain key

480
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<v Speaker 2>markers that they are looking for to be like, hey,

481
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<v Speaker 2>that's a red flag. And while that red flag may

482
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<v Speaker 2>not be a red flag today, the ramifications of that

483
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<v Speaker 2>ten years from now might become.

484
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<v Speaker 1>A red flag we need to take notice of. Does

485
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<v Speaker 1>that make sense, Yes, right, it does make sense. I

486
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<v Speaker 1>mean it's I can see how in theory this would

487
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<v Speaker 1>be a positive thing to use, you know, for the government, sure,

488
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, try to make sure they're doing this

489
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>for the safety of the people and all these things.

490
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<v Speaker 1>But I mean it completely takes away your privacy, and

491
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a very strategic smart way to be

492
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<v Speaker 1>able to control and manipulate the masses.

493
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and even at this point, it wasn't about the control,

494
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 2>although it clearly was going to go that direction obviously,

495
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.640
<v Speaker 2>but at least at this stage in the game, Lifelog

496
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:20.319
<v Speaker 2>was about just understanding the masses so that they can

497
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 2>start to do the control thing, the Hegelian dialect, right,

498
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the problem reaction solution. They needed to understand where everybody's

499
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>minds were at so that they knew what course of

500
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 2>action would get the best results.

501
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's literally breaking it down as like your

502
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>your scans, your post office, your instant messages, your books,

503
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:49.079
<v Speaker 1>radio selections, GPS, I mean, all this stuff. So I

504
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>love this one. Though. The biomedical data captured through wearable sensors,

505
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>now that's what will out guess wasn't out yet.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Apple watches were now out yet, iPhones weren't a

507
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 2>thing in three people. If you had a BlackBerry in

508
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<v Speaker 2>O three, you were a business person, like, not just

509
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>any old body had a fucking BlackBerry, and O three.

510
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<v Speaker 1>Well biomedical, so that could be like heart monitors and

511
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 1>things of that nature, things that you're actually like wearing

512
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>on your body at that time. But what I find

513
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 1>interesting is I think that they put that specifically in

514
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>there in terms of future things that were going to

515
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.599
<v Speaker 1>come out, because I really do believe that they had

516
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>had been developing things but progressively letting it out slowly

517
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 1>to where people were more apt to get in line

518
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>with wearing things that are tracking in twenty four to seven.

519
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Apple watches, they consistently track everything about

520
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you all day long, and it's reporting back, it's feeding

521
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>back the algorithm non stop. It shows how many times,

522
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>how many steps you take, what you're doing, It shows

523
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 1>who's incoming and outgoing calls and it shows your heart rate,

524
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 1>it shows all that, shows your sleep pattern, I mean,

525
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it shows everything about you. Because a lot of people

526
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 1>really don't take theirs off much. I mean they take

527
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 1>them off to charge, but for the most part, a

528
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of people where there's twenty four to seven if

529
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 1>they can, which is able, which I'm sure soon they're

530
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 1>going to have the next gen model is going to

531
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>be like, well, why don't you just get it in

532
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>your risk because that's the whole thing with Bill Gates

533
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>right now, is to put it in your wrist, the

534
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>little chip thing to where you have your whole iPhone

535
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>in your wrist, so like now you don't need to

536
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 1>be wearing the watch all the time. It's you know,

537
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>super bulky and inconvenient.

538
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 2>So it's ridiculous how much people are okay with these

539
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>things now. But because it's for convenience, it's for your safety,

540
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember.

541
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>But they use this though, they use lifelog as a

542
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 1>way to manipulate people. Well, it's all about predictive programming.

543
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 1>When you have the data collection feeding in showing you

544
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>what to do, then you utilize psychology techniques and marketing techniques,

545
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you're able to manipulate the masses, and they do it

546
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 1>over time though. Just look at the ads for Christmas,

547
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>for example, is a really good one. So Christmas ads

548
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>from the early two thousands till now, if you actually

549
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>go back and you read them, and you look at

550
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 1>them and you look at the how much of actual

551
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>sales differences and the way that they are marketing it

552
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.839
<v Speaker 1>and what they were showing, it's actually really interesting. So

553
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they've been changing it and making it different to fit

554
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the masses, to be able to manipulate them more and

555
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 1>more and more, and then you get today, people are

556
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>still buying Black Friday things, even though Black Friday, really

557
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>we know for a fact, isn't a good time to

558
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>buy things, which, by the way, anybody that's actually wanting

559
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to buy stuff, you should really buy it. In the

560
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 1>months between March and April is when things are the

561
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 1>most on sale. Realistically, the big sale in July, the

562
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>precursor sale, the Black Friday in July, Actually you'll get

563
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 1>better sales than you will later on in the year.

564
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 1>That's totally side tangent of things. But that gets back

565
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to this whole tracking situation.

566
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, so you're correct in a certain regard, but keeping

567
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.519
<v Speaker 2>my lifelog shut down February fourth, two thousand and four

568
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 2>because another came in and just swooped on in to

569
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.400
<v Speaker 2>take over this job. And we're going to talk about

570
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>that in a bit too. Because people no longer were

571
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>being forced to be spied on, they were willingly giving

572
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 2>over their data. They wanted everyone to know where they were,

573
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>what restaurants they were at. Oh, I need to take

574
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 2>a picture of my dinner and post it online. Who

575
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 2>the fuck cares what your food looks like. That's ridiculous. Now.

576
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about like travel vloggers who are showing

577
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>this really nice restaurant. They're showing like what these things

578
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 2>look like. I'm talking about like you're going to Chili's.

579
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to know what you ordered at Chili's

580
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 2>a week ago. What are we talking about here? But

581
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm actually getting like years

582
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>ahead of myself here. Let's let's break this down, so

583
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 2>slow down, getting back to it. Another of DARPA's goals

584
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:06.559
<v Speaker 2>for Lifelog had a predictive function. It sought to quote

585
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>find meaningful patterns in the timeline to infer the user's routine,

586
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 2>habits and relationships with other people. Organizations, places, and objects,

587
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 2>and to exploit these patterns to ease its task end quote.

588
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 2>So not only was lifelog trying to collect data about

589
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 2>a human being, it was confirmed by its own emission,

590
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 2>trying to get a predictive function about it, trying to

591
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>see what they're going to do next. Generically, the term

592
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>lifelog or flog. Oddly enough, Lifelog's nickname was flog like

593
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>a whip.

594
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>That's it's really odd, like they would use that, like

595
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like flogging somebody.

596
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Like flogging your slaves like that. This is what DARPA

597
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 2>was using to talk about us. But anyway, is used

598
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 2>to describe a storage system that can automatically and persist

599
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 2>record in archives some information dimensional or i'm sorry, some

600
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 2>informational dimension of an objects or user's life experience in

601
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 2>a particular data category. News reports in the media describe

602
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Lifelog as the quote diary to end all diaries, a

603
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>multimedia digital record of everywhere you go and everything you

604
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 2>see here, read, say, and touch. The media was talking

605
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>about this. News articles are talking about this. Fox and

606
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 2>CNN had made a mention of it and making it

607
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 2>sound cool. It's the diary to end all diaries. That's

608
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 2>fucking terrifying, doc. Why are you trying to throw that

609
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>in some sort of a cool hip way.

610
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>But okay, sure, but the people ate it.

611
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Up, believe it or not. And although it sounds weird

612
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 2>when DARPA is keeping the diary to end all diaries

613
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>of you, according to the US government officials, lifelog is

614
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<v Speaker 2>not connected with DARPA's total information awareness. We're gonna get

615
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to that in a minute, because it absolutely was by

616
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 2>their own admission, which is crazy. That's saying government officials

617
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>said that. DARPA said it is, and some might be

618
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>asking what is the total information awareness? We're getting there

619
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>in a moment. Anyway. The Lifelog program was canceled February fourth,

620
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four, after criticism concerning the privacy implications

621
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>of the system. Because this is a massive invasion of privacy.

622
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>We can't have this. This is crazy, this is massive

623
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>government overreach. Raven. Well, keep all of that in mind.

624
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>That same day, February fourth, two thousand and four, is

625
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the day that this hoodied wearing, curly head, weird beaker

626
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>looking motherfucker names Mark Zuckerberg launched this website called the Facebook,

627
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<v Speaker 2>and it started off I guess relatively, you know what

628
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was supposed to be only Harvard students,

629
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and within the first like six months, half of the

630
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 2>users on Facebook or the Facebook at the time were

631
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<v Speaker 2>all Harvard students. And it also was a stalker's fucking

632
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>wet dream. The had these girls that were posting their

633
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>entire class schedules and so like, if you were a

634
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 2>dude or somebody not even a dude, just a person

635
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 2>with ill intent that wanted to know where this person

636
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 2>was going to be at a certain time, it was

637
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<v Speaker 2>on their Facebook.

638
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>This is before the wall was a thing. This before

639
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I remember. I remember when the Facebook was the thing

640
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 1>and it actually reached the West coast. It was in

641
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the it was in college, so they used it for

642
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>parties and stuff. That's how I heard about it was.

643
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I heard of the college students because I had college

644
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 1>classes while I was in high school. I was doing

645
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>like a special program where I took college classes, and

646
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I heard them talking about the Facebook book and they're like, yeah,

647
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>this is how we like. They were posting like where

648
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>parties were with like the you know, the GPS location

649
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>on them and stuff. And I didn't really like, honestly,

650
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>pay much mind to it because I wasn't in college,

651
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, whatever the fuck that is? But

652
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing about it, and I didn't, you know,

653
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know much about it. I actually didn't

654
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>even get a Facebook until like my second year in

655
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the Marine Corps because everybody was like, you need to

656
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.320
<v Speaker 1>get one, because I didn't, you know, I didn't really

657
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>get to communicate with my family that often, so I

658
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 1>was like, I guess.

659
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>And to prove a point here, that launched in four

660
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>February of four To be exact, I my mother did

661
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 2>not allow me to have social media. She did not

662
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.039
<v Speaker 2>know that I had a MySpace page for years. She

663
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>never knew that I had a Facebook page until I

664
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 2>was I think a senior in high school and then

665
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>she finally found out. But I had had one since

666
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I was in eighth grader middle school. Is when I

667
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 2>started my Facebook page. Just everybody has a real snapshot

668
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>of this. We are talking two thousand and five. I

669
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.320
<v Speaker 2>had a Facebook page as a middle schooler.

670
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>What see, I got one when I was like two

671
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine, actually probably almost twenty ten.

672
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 2>It might be two thousand and six. Excuse me, I'm

673
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>not sure because it was like that five six years.

674
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not sure exactly when I want somebody, yeah whatever,

675
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>but it was that soon. So as far as like,

676
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 2>oh it was only intended for college kids, I know

677
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 2>what people are gonna say, oh, four And I was

678
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>not like a bad kid. I was not out here

679
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>like trying to run these streets or anything like that.

680
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I was living my little Christian fucking living in a

681
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>bubble life at that point. And my middle school ass

682
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 2>had a Facebook in six you see what I'm saying.

683
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>It took two years for this thing for only college

684
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 2>kids to trickle down from oh, it's only college kids

685
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 2>for Harvard and all this to trickle down into middle

686
00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>school Louisiana zeitgeist two years. So when everybody says, oh,

687
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>it was never intended for that bull fucking shit, well,

688
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 2>they had an age restriction with nothing to back it up.

689
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>You could put whatever date you wanted, is your birthday?

690
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Nobody it didn't. There was nothing to check you on that.

691
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, we could tell how little I gave

692
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:21.599
<v Speaker 1>a fuck about social media, right right, I mean I

693
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>was and I still am, though, Like I'm definitely way

694
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 1>out of loop about stuff a lot more now because

695
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I read about it, but if I had it my way,

696
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 1>i'd probably honestly be like just you know, amish, but

697
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>not amish because theyre kind of have some weird rules

698
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but with no technology. But I mean, I didn't get

699
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 1>my first iPhone until I was twenty six. That's crazy.

700
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like I didn't. Uh, And then here's a

701
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>little admission that everyone's gonna maybe like have a whole

702
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>crash out about, you know, like those mpth three players

703
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 1>or like the Apple ones what are they called? One

704
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 1>that you can get iPods. So I got gifted my

705
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>iPods and like other people put music on them. Still

706
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 1>to this day, I'd have zero idea how to put

707
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 1>music on an iPod or an MP theory player.

708
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea in a file like it's it's

709
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 2>not difficult.

710
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna be really honest with you here's even

711
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>how how much I don't give a fuck about technology.

712
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I also never burned a single CD. Brittany did all

713
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>of my CDs.

714
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I never burned a CD. My homie who was way

715
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>more tech savvy, he he had a stack of CDs

716
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>for me.

717
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Brittany did everything like she was. She was like

718
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 1>all about that shit and was all about the technology

719
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 1>stuff and she's like, here you need this, here you

720
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>knew that, and I was like I don't. I don't

721
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>really care. Like I mean, I had to like get

722
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 1>a cell phone because she was like, you have to

723
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 1>have a cell phone so I can call you. And

724
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like why though.

725
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Like Pirate Bay, LimeWire, and frost Wire, those were the

726
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 2>ship as far as finding free music. And you remember

727
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>that was like a big thing. It was a super

728
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Bowl commercial actually, these kids that were downloading free music

729
00:39:59.639 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and it.

730
00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Was they got in trouble.

731
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then there's like a whole thing the super

732
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Bowl commercial. They had these like teenagers that were all

733
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>like looking all sad and it was like criminal folonious

734
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:11.599
<v Speaker 2>and this and this, and it was like and you

735
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>know what, We're still gonna download music and there's nothing

736
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 2>anybody could do about it. And it was like wow,

737
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>these kids that were like seeing us all freedom and shit,

738
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 2>and it was like, we're talking about just downloading music

739
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 2>off of lime Wire. That's all that commercial was about.

740
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be really honest. I loved going to Barnes

741
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 1>and Noble, not Barnes and Noble at the time. Borders

742
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 1>or like some of the other small bookstores and going

743
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and shopping in their CD section. So I go buy CDs. Yeah, well,

744
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would, yeah, go test them out, but

745
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I would, uh you know. I worked multiple jobs when

746
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I was a teenager, so I would save up a

747
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit of my money each you know, paycheck, so

748
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 1>I could go buy like a new CD every like

749
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>once a week, I could go get like a new

750
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 1>CD I had I have. I actually have it. To

751
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, I have a large CD. So's

752
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that's about the extent of my technology when it comes

753
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 1>to stuff. And what's funny is I went into calm

754
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and then had to learn a bunch about technology, and

755
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.039
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, how the fuck did I have?

756
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 1>But that actually, to me was a lot more interesting

757
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 1>because of how the satellites work and how like they

758
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>can ping each other and there's like a lot more

759
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>complications with it. I just vote for like normal stuff.

760
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest with you, Like, I'm pretty old school.

761
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 1>I like my books. I like to be able to

762
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 1>touch my books. I'm weird like that, So.

763
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Nothing crazy about wanting to actually touch paper. I know

764
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are all about like the audio

765
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 2>books of the kindles and stuff. Different strokes are different folks.

766
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, anyway, back on topic, So your boys, Zuck, No, no, no,

767
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>you're fine. You're fine. So Zuck launched the Facebook the

768
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 2>day that DARPA quote unquote shuts down its lifelog program.

769
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 2>And this investor comes in and drops a half million dollars,

770
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 2>so pretty much asking no questions, by the name of

771
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Peter Teel. He came in. Oh yes, but keep in

772
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 2>mind we're talking four Most people on Earth had no

773
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>idea who the fuck this guy was. No one knew

774
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 2>who Mark Zuckerberg was. Very few people even knew exactly.

775
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Very few people knew who Elon Musk was. Bill Gates

776
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.159
<v Speaker 2>was the tech guy. He was the name that people

777
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>knew about. Keep in mind, do you remember AOL instant messenger?

778
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I actually know this, Okay, that.

779
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Just that was just in the phase of starting to

780
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 2>get phased out. It was still being very widely used

781
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 2>for the record. But like this, we're talking a few

782
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>years away from most people only having dial up internet

783
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 2>in their homes. Hell, I had dial up in my

784
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 2>house until shit, probably around this time, as a matter

785
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>of fact, probably around oh five is when we got

786
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>instead of dial up, we just like had regular internet

787
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.320
<v Speaker 2>that you just pay your cable provider for.

788
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>God the dial up. Yeah no, I mean that was

789
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>a whole pedophilic wet dream too, though.

790
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.679
<v Speaker 2>It was indeed it was indeed. But so Peter Til

791
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>comes in as an angel investor and drops five hundred

792
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 2>k on Zuck and this whole new fan dangled Facebook thing,

793
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 2>even though he was very well aware of what it

794
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>was and what it was going to be used for,

795
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 2>mostly because he was at that two thousand and two

796
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 2>AI symposium on Epstein's Island. We're going to talk about

797
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.519
<v Speaker 2>that more in a bit, but there he actually made

798
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.960
<v Speaker 2>an appearance in the Social the Social network movie. Have

799
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you ever seen this movie?

800
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.679
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I have not, but didntally actually convince

801
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Mark to drop out of school. Peter Til did that

802
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of earstertles.

803
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these tech people, he would like pretty much pay

804
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 2>them an absorbent amount of money to drop out of school.

805
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 2>He'll fund their projects, fund their businesses, and you work

806
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>for him now. And I mean, yeah, they could finish

807
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 2>their degree and make this money in a few years,

808
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 2>or they could just jump to the finish line now

809
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and they're plugged into one of the biggest tech gurus

810
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 2>of the day and age. So a lot of them

811
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.519
<v Speaker 2>did that, Zuck being one of them. I'm gonna play

812
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>this clip right now from this from this movie. It's

813
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 2>only forty five seconds long. And this is Peter Teal's,

814
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, impersonation. What's the word I want to look

815
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>for his character on the movie. I'll check it out, Sean,

816
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>He'll be right with you.

817
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is what the film Towering Inferno that's

818
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:37.559
<v Speaker 1>come for day.

819
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, come on back. That's Peter Teal's character. Did

820
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>she offer you some waters?

821
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're cool.

822
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Shot that way. It must be Mark.

823
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, you took a look at everything, and congratulations.

824
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna strut you off with a five hun thousand

825
00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>dollars investments. Maurice is gonna talk.

826
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 1>You've had some corporate restructuring.

827
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll find as a corporation in Delaware come up with

828
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>a stock structure that allows for now investors. Now, let

829
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>me ask you something. Who's Itvard of Sovereign. So this

830
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 2>guy is Peter Teel and he's straight up yeah, we

831
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>looked over it.

832
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start you off.

833
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 2>With a five hundred thousand dollars investment. We're gonna set

834
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.599
<v Speaker 2>you up with a you know, a LLC in Delaware.

835
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have it open source to where you know,

836
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 2>anybody can invest in the company. And this, this, and this.

837
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 2>It was all about a get rich quick scheme. But

838
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.639
<v Speaker 2>also it was about the data. That's genuinely all it

839
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 2>was about. So here's the deal with lifelog. With lifelog,

840
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 2>you had to have a actual person entered the data.

841
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>You would have a person track another person, right, not

842
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>necessarily spy versus spy, but like, let's say that you,

843
00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Raven Lee, became a person of interest to a three

844
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>letter agency for whatever reason, right, they would have to

845
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:07.639
<v Speaker 2>assign an agent to track you and watch your movements,

846
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 2>check your bank accounts, do all these things, do all this,

847
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Where are you going, what objects are you buying? Whatever

848
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the case. That took time, that took resources, that took energy,

849
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and believe it or not, the CIA doesn't have five

850
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 2>million people that are working for it just sitting around

851
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:29.239
<v Speaker 2>waiting for a task to obsessively consume them. So it

852
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 2>was very slow going, and the data was getting input,

853
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 2>but not at the rate that it needed to the

854
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 2>government needed to get the public to give over that

855
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.599
<v Speaker 2>data enter the Facebook, Peter TiO being one of the

856
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.960
<v Speaker 2>biggest investors at that time. Pretty much now it was

857
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>like a cool and trendy thing to upload your class schedule,

858
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>your hopes, your dreams, little things you thought were important.

859
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 2>What restaurants you attend, right, what parties you go to,

860
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>people within your network, friends of yours, where you work.

861
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>All of this was now something that people wanted for.

862
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:13.199
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy to me still out loud. People wanted this

863
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 2>information on the internet forever, to be a part of it,

864
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to be cool because somehow people really care about you

865
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 2>into this level of things and like that's a thing.

866
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 2>It gave everybody the whole memi me situation. Everybody felt

867
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:35.679
<v Speaker 2>like they were suffering from main character syndrome, and in

868
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 2>a way they were. Meanwhile, the government was taking all

869
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 2>of that data and putting it into a computer system,

870
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and no longer do we need to assign an agent

871
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 2>for a person. We needed a couple of people to

872
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 2>monitor Facebook's data bank. And that was about it.

873
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think the interesting thing about that

874
00:47:54.280 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 1>time though, was getting people to they wanted to feel

875
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess the narrative got pushed of feeling more connected

876
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and then having the dopamine from people liking your stuff

877
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and from seemingly like they actually care about you. Having

878
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 1>more people care about who you are, what you're doing,

879
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>where you're going, those kinds of things is just replacing

880
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 1>the social interaction of like having friends and talking to

881
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 1>them and those kind of things. Now you have complete

882
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>strangers or people that you kind of know that are

883
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 1>giving you likes, comments, shares, you know, whatever, and now

884
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 1>it's making you feel good. It's a little dopamine hit

885
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>every single time. Yeah, it's quite ingenious, honestly it is.

886
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 2>And I think that it also has spurred on a

887
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of social experiments because, like we're talking about, it

888
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 2>had a predictive aspect to it. So this before the

889
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 2>idea of an algorithm was a thing. I mean, hell,

890
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>this is right after this meeting with Peter Teel. This

891
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 2>was right after Zuckerberg even thought of the concept of

892
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 2>the wall posting something to your wall. That was crazy

893
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:15.159
<v Speaker 2>new brain mind blowing a thought process that he had

894
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>just come up with.

895
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And so I wonder, I wonder if the Dark Web had,

896
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>like some of the older chat rooms I wonder if

897
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 1>this is where the theory came from, Like, I wonder

898
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:31.199
<v Speaker 1>if this is where he got it from. Was because

899
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the dark webs was a lot easier to access back then,

900
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm just wondering, because he was so tech savvy,

901
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>was this like kind of how it got started in

902
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 1>his mind of like these now. I don't know how

903
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>long the dark web platforms have been around, but I

904
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>could see how that would be able to spark the

905
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 1>idea of people getting together and chatting about their daily

906
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>lives and all of these things, because I mean that's

907
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>people used to pinpal each other information from across the globe,

908
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, other readers or writers or researchers would send

909
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 1>it back and forth. I don't know, I'm just thinking

910
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 1>out loud as I'm thinking about, like, how did he

911
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>come up with this? How did this idea even like

912
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.079
<v Speaker 1>actually spark versus what like you know, I know, he

913
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>made a movie about himself or whatever. I don't think

914
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he's actually gonna tell us realistically how he figured it

915
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 1>all it all out?

916
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the movie is, uh, there's definitely some creative liberties taken, like,

917
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>for instance, the uh I think they were the Winkleman

918
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>twins or something. Essentially, Facebook was their brainchild and Zuckerberg

919
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>stole it from them. And that's according to the movie.

920
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 2>That's not exactly accurate. At Wardo Salver and the guy

921
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 2>he was just talking about was his homie that was

922
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.440
<v Speaker 2>like his co creator of this. He got shafted, and

923
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the movie does an okay job of explaining how that

924
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 2>shook out. But it again, there's some creative liberties that

925
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 2>are taken. Your boy Sean in the background played by

926
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Justin Tayake. His role is made way larger in the

927
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 2>movie than it actually was in real life. So it's

928
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the movie was made for entertainment, but it got kind

929
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:13.480
<v Speaker 2>of the key details close enough. But as far as

930
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 2>this portion goes, Peter Tiel absolutely was the angel investor

931
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that made Facebook what it became. He did the same thing,

932
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:24.280
<v Speaker 2>by the way, with a guy named Reed Hoffman. Maybe

933
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 2>you've heard of him because he's also in the Epstein Files,

934
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:31.199
<v Speaker 2>but he is the creator and founder of LinkedIn. So again,

935
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the Internet and by the Internet for this of for

936
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 2>all intents and purposes on this when I am just

937
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:41.159
<v Speaker 2>meaning the government, right, they not only saw on Facebook

938
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:43.639
<v Speaker 2>what you found to be socially cool and what made

939
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you tick. There they could track your entire employment history,

940
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.360
<v Speaker 2>They could track your all of your resumes and updates

941
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 2>and all the things, and then find your professional network

942
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.920
<v Speaker 2>as well as your social network, as well as your

943
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>eating network, as far as your banking goes. Because yes,

944
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Hay Powell was a part of this too, so is Vinmo,

945
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 2>so is cash App, so all of these things the

946
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 2>government and by for this record, Peter Teele was an

947
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.159
<v Speaker 2>angel investor in all these things, if not the co

948
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 2>creator of it. And so the database got everything it

949
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.159
<v Speaker 2>needed from every single person, whether they ever realized that

950
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>they were handing over this information or not.

951
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's really a note to say that

952
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are in the Epstein files

953
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:35.039
<v Speaker 1>they have LinkedIn profiles and and like you can contact

954
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>them on LinkedIn. Yeah, because I sent like quite a

955
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>few messages to some of the people because I was like, well,

956
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 1>this is easy. I mean, they're all hooked up together.

957
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's kind of weird how Peter Teel

958
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:52.199
<v Speaker 1>had his hand in everything. He was the main hub

959
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:56.639
<v Speaker 1>besides Epstein in collecting the data needed to push forward

960
00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:01.159
<v Speaker 1>for AI. The next step in AI, I think it's

961
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting that nobody really talks about him. I mean, he

962
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was messing what like over two thousand times in the

963
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Epstein files, like two thousand, six hundred or four hundred

964
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 1>or something like that time raising. Yeah, but no one's

965
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.960
<v Speaker 1>really chatting about him and his role and how our

966
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 1>society is today and how he used DARPA or he

967
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 1>was an agent for DARPA. I'm not really sure how

968
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.760
<v Speaker 1>DARPA and him are best buds, but they are like

969
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 1>hand in hand.

970
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that you worded it the way that

971
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>you did, Raven Lee, because enter, how does Palenteer fit

972
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:34.800
<v Speaker 2>into this?

973
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Right?

974
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I know, Palenteer is the company that is Peter Teel's

975
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>baby and all this, but how and why did Peter

976
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:43.679
<v Speaker 2>TiO decide that this is the route that he needs

977
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>to go for business? So Palneer has massive government contracts

978
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and have four decades. It's a database basically, and it

979
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 2>needs users to put their data into it for it. Now, again,

980
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:01.079
<v Speaker 2>this is in these days, this is before AI was

981
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 2>really a thing that we had. They had very early

982
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 2>stages of it, but it was more like pattern recognition,

983
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.400
<v Speaker 2>and that's what it was about. It was it would

984
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.000
<v Speaker 2>understand that an apple grows from a tree. Okay, cool,

985
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.400
<v Speaker 2>But if you were to try to tell it to

986
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 2>pull an apple pie out of an oven at a

987
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>certain point, not based off of a timer, but off

988
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.920
<v Speaker 2>of the site and off of the smell and off

989
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 2>of these, it didn't understand common sense. It understood very

990
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 2>very basic pattern recognition that you had to painstakingly put

991
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:38.519
<v Speaker 2>into databases. Right. This is why the Common Sense Symposium

992
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 2>of two thousand and two took place at Little Saint James,

993
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:44.239
<v Speaker 2>specifically because they were trying to talk about how to

994
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:49.480
<v Speaker 2>make AI have human common sense. This is why Pallenteer

995
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:51.400
<v Speaker 2>got used in the way that it did. So now

996
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna talk about this. This article here is from

997
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Get Loud with a med Pallenteer financed by Epstein, fueled

998
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 2>by killing in Gaza and spying on you. Yeah, this

999
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.199
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be a weird article, and I think it's

1000
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.159
<v Speaker 2>it's really important for us to really dig into. So

1001
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Palenteer took Epstein's money, teals backing and Trump's blessing to

1002
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 2>build an AI war machine. If Gaza is the testing

1003
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 2>ground America's next and are we ready to fight back?

1004
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.159
<v Speaker 2>So we can talk about the Gaza situation a little

1005
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.519
<v Speaker 2>bit if we want to, But for this let's just

1006
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.639
<v Speaker 2>stick to the main talking points here right watching Musk

1007
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and Trump, Cosey's relationship collapse between the public meltdown. This

1008
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 2>article was written last year. By the way, I can't

1009
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:40.360
<v Speaker 2>help but notice who's quietly smiling Trump's bedfellow, Pallenteer, a

1010
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 2>data behemoth born in Cia Coffers now peddling itself to

1011
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Israel's war machine and carrying the taint of Epstein's filthy millions.

1012
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Pallenteer which helped draw up the kill lists for Gaza,

1013
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:57.159
<v Speaker 2>which is very accurate, by the way, lists responsible for

1014
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 2>the murder of tens of thousands of Palestinians, the vast

1015
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:03.119
<v Speaker 2>majority of whom are women and children, was bankrolled in

1016
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:07.519
<v Speaker 2>part by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. That wasn't in part.

1017
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.519
<v Speaker 2>That was a very large endowment to get that started,

1018
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.719
<v Speaker 2>But we'll get to that today. That same code driven

1019
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 2>engine is giving Trump the ability to assemble a mega

1020
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:22.159
<v Speaker 2>AI database of every single American's secrets. So also on

1021
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 2>screen right now is a logo, a newspaper clipping that

1022
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 2>says very big, bold words Pallenteer stands with Israel. Yes soccer.

1023
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 2>There's a photograph from a full page ad purchased by

1024
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 2>a Palenteer in the New York Times. So all right,

1025
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 2>let's continue on here. Built to extract or excuse me,

1026
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Built to extract insights from torrents of data. With machine

1027
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:50.559
<v Speaker 2>learning and AI, Palenteers optimizing manufacturing and supply chains, but

1028
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 2>also optimizing genocide and kill chains. The big data giant

1029
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:57.559
<v Speaker 2>was born out of a desire to do what was illegal.

1030
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.960
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and three, the CIA couldn't legally spy

1031
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the way it wanted to, so it outsourced the job.

1032
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 2>The CIA became Palenteer's first and only investor, for years,

1033
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 2>quietly bankrolling a private surveillance empire it couldn't build itself.

1034
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 2>A decade later, Edward Snowden exposed the truth. Palaenteer had

1035
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 2>been helping the US government condust mass illegal spying, not

1036
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:24.639
<v Speaker 2>on foreign threats, but on its own citizens. Now this

1037
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 2>same company, with roots and secrecy, war and surveillance, is

1038
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:31.039
<v Speaker 2>partnering with Israel, powering a genocidal war in Gaza. What

1039
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>started as an illegal surveillance has evolved into algorithmic warfare.

1040
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.679
<v Speaker 2>And Palestine is the most brutal testing ground. Yes, of course,

1041
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:43.960
<v Speaker 2>today Palanteer's algorithms are built to kill Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

1042
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<v Speaker 2>These aren't random horrors of war. They are the direct

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00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.079
<v Speaker 2>result of lines of code designed to label Palestinian lives

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00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:54.719
<v Speaker 2>as targets, reducing human beings to data points designed for obliteration.

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00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Paladeer doesn't hide what it is. It brags about it.

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00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 2>The CEO, Alex Karp, proudly cause the company's surveillance infrastructure

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00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a quote digital kill chain.

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00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Before God's a sky crazy.

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00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's called a kill chain, and I've heard that

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00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 2>used before.

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00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Like that's just really really odd. And by the way,

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00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.679
<v Speaker 1>at this point, I mean, are we going to acknowledge

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00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the elephant in the room that Israel is pretty shitty.

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00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm saying overall net Yahu and his entire administration,

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00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:28.840
<v Speaker 2>it's horrible what's happening here. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that every single person I said, I

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00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:34.639
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that every single Jewish person there is horrible

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00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.000
<v Speaker 1>in itself. I think the war between the Palestinians and

1059
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the Jewish people, I have my own opinion on that,

1060
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but I believe that Israel is behind a lot more

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00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 1>things than what is being given credit to.

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00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll say that no, I definitely could agree with that,

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00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and I know a lot of people listening are gonna

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00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.159
<v Speaker 2>lose their shit that I'm agreeing with Raven on this part.

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00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say it was like, oh, hang on here,

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00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 1>because you've been pretty staunch in your in your beliefs

1067
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that Israel isn't behind a lot of things. But I

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00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>think the writing is like clearly on the wall at

1069
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.119
<v Speaker 1>this point that like Israel is directly in fact behind

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of shit. Now, when I say Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>let me be very specific. I do not believe that

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00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>all Jews are behind this. I believe there is a

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00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:21.400
<v Speaker 1>sector of Jews, if not maybe two sectors of Jews.

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00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 1>You know that, just like there is different types of Muslims.

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00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Not all Muslims are completely evil. There is sectors that

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00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:33.159
<v Speaker 1>are way horrific compared to the other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the record, there's sectors of quote unquote Christianity.

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00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>That there is sectors, and there is sectors of Christians

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00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 1>that are psycho and they will go about doing anything

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00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 1>and everything to purge pretty much everybody else. They're seen

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00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>with Catholics, and I mean, you name it, you name

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00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the sector, and that's pretty much where we're at when

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00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.159
<v Speaker 1>I do say that, I do believe that there's quite

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00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.119
<v Speaker 1>there is literal sectors of these groups. I don't believe

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00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that all Jewish people are evil, no, but I do

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01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:04.119
<v Speaker 1>believe that Israel is behind a lot more things that

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01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they have their hand in the cookie jar, a lot

1088
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 1>more than what has been led on to believe in

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01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that this whole connection with Jeffrey Epstein's showing how many

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01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:17.079
<v Speaker 1>threads to Israel, there is is a clear indication that,

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01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:18.880
<v Speaker 1>like the writing is on the wall, that they are

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01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 1>way worse off than what a lot of people. I've

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01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.320
<v Speaker 1>been pretty quiet about my opinion about Israel this whole time,

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01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:26.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's where I'm at with it.

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01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.480
<v Speaker 2>So whenever I say Israel, I don't mean the nation

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01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:33.679
<v Speaker 2>of Actually, when it's the same as saying like, well,

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01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:35.679
<v Speaker 2>you know America is involved in bap bah bah bah,

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01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I am not talking about you know, your people that

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01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.519
<v Speaker 2>are living from your hometown in Oregon. I am not

1100
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:45.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about the people from Prairieville, Louisia. I'm talking about

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01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the United States government. When I say these things we're

1102
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:49.880
<v Speaker 2>using these big terms. But this is what I mean.

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01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:54.079
<v Speaker 2>So whenever I say Israel, I mean Mussad, I mean

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01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Net and Yahoo, I mean his cabinet, I mean very

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01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 2>top tier people. I don't believe that people in Israel

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01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:04.320
<v Speaker 2>are evil people. I do not believe that. And that's

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01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the other thing too, I don't believe in using the

1108
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:11.719
<v Speaker 2>term Jews and Israel interchangeably. That seems to be a

1109
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 2>thing that people love doing when we say in Israel, well,

1110
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not all the Jews, like, no, no, no,

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01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.440
<v Speaker 2>there's Jews in America. They ain't got shit or fuck

1112
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>to do with what's going on in Israel. I am

1113
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about Net and Yahoo and his ILK. I am

1114
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:29.800
<v Speaker 2>not talking about people in the world that happen to

1115
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:32.360
<v Speaker 2>be of Jewish faith or of Jewish blood. We're talking

1116
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:35.320
<v Speaker 2>about two different things here. And yes, I still think

1117
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that the nation of Israel needs to exist as a country.

1118
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I hate the way it's being ran right now, but

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01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I believe that it deserves the right to exist. I

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01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:47.960
<v Speaker 2>believe Russia should be a nation. I can't stand the

1121
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 2>fucking president of it, and I think he's a psychopath

1122
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:55.559
<v Speaker 2>that needs to be taken out but I don't believe that, right, No,

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01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I think he's out of his fucking mind.

1124
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.639
<v Speaker 2>But my point is I'm not blaming every citizen in

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01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Moscow for Putin ship. Does this make sense?

1126
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, it makes sense. I think that Israel

1127
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.599
<v Speaker 1>is shady motherfuckers have taken a lot of land over

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01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of decades, very strategically from Palestinian people.

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01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:22.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that there needs to be a common ground

1130
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:27.159
<v Speaker 1>when sharing this this area because you know, whether we

1131
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 1>all like it or not, history tends to be conquering

1132
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.760
<v Speaker 1>situations and though it was gifted by forced, well we'll

1133
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 1>say more forced than anything. You know, it's it's one

1134
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:48.159
<v Speaker 1>of those things of that that's their problems, that's them

1135
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:52.599
<v Speaker 1>problem in America has a lot of our problems. So

1136
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want people and I don't want people to

1137
01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:00.400
<v Speaker 1>die for no specific reasons. I mean, that's absolutely tos

1138
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.719
<v Speaker 1>like we could all been together and kill all the Taliban.

1139
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for that. But yeah, no, I hear what

1140
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, and I think there needs to be very

1141
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:14.559
<v Speaker 1>clear distinctions when people are talking about different groups and

1142
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 1>when they're bringing these points up, and that a lot

1143
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:20.440
<v Speaker 1>of people believe that Jeffrey Epstein is in fact alive

1144
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:24.639
<v Speaker 1>in Israel. I've seen the well we don't know if

1145
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.480
<v Speaker 1>their AI images or not. The circulating photos that do

1146
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:32.440
<v Speaker 1>appear to be him with long hair. I just find

1147
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 1>very convenient. I just want everybody to really like sit

1148
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.280
<v Speaker 1>with it for a second and understand, here are the

1149
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 1>files that dropped, here's all the information that came with it,

1150
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.679
<v Speaker 1>all the ties are being shown to Israel. And then conveniently,

1151
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 1>after several years, just suddenly we have photos of Epstein

1152
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 1>alive in Israel, just weirdly coincidental, a few weeks after

1153
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.639
<v Speaker 1>this entire whole thing happened, and people are starting to

1154
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:02.000
<v Speaker 1>actually get called out on their shit it. You know,

1155
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I would just wager that coincidences aren't that strong in life.

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01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:09.440
<v Speaker 2>But right, look, all I'm saying is that you can

1157
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 2>support the nation of Israel and be super critical of

1158
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.159
<v Speaker 2>their current governing body. These two can't happen at the

1159
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:22.280
<v Speaker 2>same time. I can be a proud American patriot and

1160
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 2>also hate how our current administration is being ran. These

1161
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.639
<v Speaker 2>two sentences can be true at the same time. That's

1162
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.599
<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying. So just we're all clear when I

1163
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:34.360
<v Speaker 2>call myself a Zionist quote unquote. I do not mean

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01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the ultra Zionists that believe that Israel have some sort

1165
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 2>of a moral high ground or they're better than anybody.

1166
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean that in the traditional term of saying that

1167
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I believe Israel should exis as a nation the same

1168
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:48.159
<v Speaker 2>way whenever I claim that I am a feminist. I

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01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:50.000
<v Speaker 2>believe that women should get paid the same as a

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01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:52.039
<v Speaker 2>man for the same work that they are doing. I

1171
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:54.840
<v Speaker 2>believe that our votes should count in equal ways. I

1172
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:58.599
<v Speaker 2>don't mean the fucking psycholibtards that are screaming with pussy

1173
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.199
<v Speaker 2>hats on their heads right These terms are being used

1174
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:02.320
<v Speaker 2>in different ways right now.

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01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna get one of them hats, for the

1176
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:07.760
<v Speaker 1>love of God, Raven, Why just so I can wear

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01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it on here, just to ruffle the feathers.

1178
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's I'm just kidding. That's a flex.

1179
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:19.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm just joking. I'm joking. Oh man, Okay, you do that.

1180
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 2>You you can go ahead and do that.

1181
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:22.880
<v Speaker 1>But whatever.

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01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So my point is, when we're talking about this

1183
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:28.400
<v Speaker 2>article here they bring up the whole Gaza and iSER

1184
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 2>A situation again, because that was like a really hot

1185
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 2>topic last year. But the point is that Palenteer was

1186
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:35.800
<v Speaker 2>being used to create these kill lists. That's not a joke,

1187
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.679
<v Speaker 2>that's a fact. So continuing on here, it says before

1188
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Gozza skies were lit with bomb blasts, Palenteer story was

1189
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 2>already woven into the darkest corners of power. In two

1190
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 2>thousand and five, Jeffrey Epstein funneled forty million dollars into

1191
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Peter Teal's pocket, seating the very startup that would become Palenteer.

1192
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.599
<v Speaker 2>And Teal has never fully disavowed that relationship and has

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01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:01.320
<v Speaker 2>even has he he insisted Epstein quote had absolutely nothing

1194
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to do with Israel. I don't know why this article

1195
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 2>is working very hard to shove the Israel narrative towards

1196
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the story of Palenteer. But fine, whatever the point we

1197
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:12.920
<v Speaker 2>need to take from that is a five. Jeffrey Epstein

1198
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 2>funneled forty million dollars to start up Pallenteer. So again

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<v Speaker 2>we're not talking about oh, well, you know Epstein and

1200
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.559
<v Speaker 2>they just ran in similar circles. No, the same way

1201
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.480
<v Speaker 2>that Peter Teele is plugged with Facebook, Epstein is plugged

1202
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:34.679
<v Speaker 2>with Palenteer. So now all of Palenteer's affiliations all stem

1203
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:40.159
<v Speaker 2>from Epstein either way you go. And even in five yeah,

1204
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't convicted at that time. Everybody that spent any

1205
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:45.199
<v Speaker 2>amount of time with this dude knew what was up.

1206
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Allegedly him and Trump had their big falling out No.

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01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Four or something whatever. Anyway, a couple of random little

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01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:54.599
<v Speaker 2>things that we could bring up. At this time, Jeffrey

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01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Epstein introduced Kimball Musk, Elon Musk's brother to a woman

1210
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.719
<v Speaker 2>in his entourage, two sources told Business Insider. The woman,

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01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:06.719
<v Speaker 2>who had previously dated Epstein and lived in an apartment

1212
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 2>building where he was known to house models, dated Kimball

1213
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:12.400
<v Speaker 2>from twenty eleven to twenty twelve.

1214
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Though their relationship.

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01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's crazy how Musk claims that there's no connections

1216
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:23.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever his brother dated his ex, but all right, after.

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01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Being shunned from the party, damn.

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01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:27.800
<v Speaker 2>After being shun from the party, and after it was

1219
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:32.000
<v Speaker 2>understood that Epstein was a full on sex criminal, there's

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01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:36.239
<v Speaker 2>no way around this. Epstein still threw his sloppy seconds

1221
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:41.119
<v Speaker 2>on Elon's brother, because that's I guess, okay. Though the

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01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.280
<v Speaker 2>relationship by all accounts was genuine, the sources said, Epstein

1223
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.840
<v Speaker 2>hoped it would open doors to Elon Musk and his companies.

1224
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 2>So he threw that pussy on his little brother strictly

1225
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:53.559
<v Speaker 2>to try to make his way to the big brother

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01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 2>for business opportunities.

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01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.159
<v Speaker 1>That's all it was.

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01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It was a honeypot.

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01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But he didn't even need to do that though, because

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01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Musk literally reached out about coming on the island to him,

1231
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.519
<v Speaker 1>So all he had to do was grant him access

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01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to the island to be able to get in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still firm I do not believe that. I

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01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:11.800
<v Speaker 1>do not believe that at all. I believe one hundred

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01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.800
<v Speaker 1>percent that Elon was I don't think he was taking

1236
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:20.680
<v Speaker 1>money from Epstein. I think that heuse Musk has mentioned

1237
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:24.520
<v Speaker 1>quite a few times for the eugenics program as well.

1238
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 1>He's mentioned many times in the emails as being one

1239
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:32.239
<v Speaker 1>of the top dogs in his thing. And they talk

1240
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:35.279
<v Speaker 1>about his eye clutor, they talk about, you know, these

1241
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:40.319
<v Speaker 1>email lists were utilizing the data for potential candidates to

1242
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 1>take their genome sequencing. Yeah, and Musk has mentioned quite

1243
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:44.399
<v Speaker 1>a few times.

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01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.640
<v Speaker 2>So I have a tough ye you have an episode

1245
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 2>you're doing on that one, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I do, And I have a I just

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01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:55.960
<v Speaker 1>have a really tough time believing that with those emails,

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01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.600
<v Speaker 1>with this that I had even no idea. You can't

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01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 1>honest look at this and be like, you know, Gates

1250
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and Elon and Zuckerberg are all homies pushing forward with

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01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:11.119
<v Speaker 1>this AI shit down your throat, and then just happens

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01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to be all of them have heavy ties to Epstein,

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01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 1>and Elon wasn't somehow involved, at least in the sense

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01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:24.119
<v Speaker 1>of maybe I just I don't know if Elon would

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01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:27.199
<v Speaker 1>take money from him, but they're definitely I think he

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01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:31.279
<v Speaker 1>was using the data collection in which Epstein was gathering.

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01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.520
<v Speaker 1>That's where I think that would be the money maker.

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01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Hold On, hold on, don't misinterpret what I'm saying here.

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01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that Elon didn't go to Florida or

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01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:44.439
<v Speaker 2>to his Manhattan apartment and did some pedophilic shit. I

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01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.880
<v Speaker 2>am not saying that. I am saying that I don't

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01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:48.640
<v Speaker 2>know if he ever went to the island.

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01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he knows if he went to the island

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01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:55.319
<v Speaker 1>or not. I'm just simply there's a lot of and

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01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Elon will say up and down like I don't know,

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01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know him. I know we didn't you know,

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01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.359
<v Speaker 1>we didn't really hang out, we didn't really talk or

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01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:07.520
<v Speaker 1>all these things crazy because brother dated, Yeah, your brother

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01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:09.640
<v Speaker 1>dated his sloppy seconds.

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01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Like Epstein and his entourage were granted a private tour

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01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 2>of Elon Musk's Space X facility in Hawthorne, California in

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01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:18.279
<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they were, And I actually looked it up and

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01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.319
<v Speaker 1>they actually were. There's a picture of him. There's like

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01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a picture of them going into the facility.

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01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, oh, we didn't really we never hung out

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01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:32.079
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't know him that Well, the fuck you didn't, Dog,

1278
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that's bullshit. But anyway, we are going to get a

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01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:39.239
<v Speaker 2>lot more into the Elon and Epstein connections, especially when

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01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:41.319
<v Speaker 2>it talks to genetics and eugenics. We're going to do

1281
01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:43.560
<v Speaker 2>that probably on the next episode. And Raven Lee, she's

1282
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 2>been doing research into this for quite some time, so

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01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.720
<v Speaker 2>like it's it's big so And also I'm not saying

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01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.680
<v Speaker 2>with authority that Elon never went to the Island. I'm

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01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:53.800
<v Speaker 2>saying as of this moment, with the research I've done

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01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:56.000
<v Speaker 2>up until this point, and I have not read every

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01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:59.479
<v Speaker 2>single email and file, but from what I could tell,

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01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't the Elon ever went to the island for

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01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 2>the purposes of partying with the children. Did he do

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01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that in Manhattan? Probably?

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01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Florida?

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01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, California probably, Like I yes, yes. All I'm saying

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01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.479
<v Speaker 2>is the Island party. I don't think Elon ever made

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01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:15.720
<v Speaker 2>it too.

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01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:19.079
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there's proof of him going to the

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01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Zoro ranch. That's where I think he would go more

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01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.720
<v Speaker 1>than anywhere else. I know he would really, I don't

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01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:27.079
<v Speaker 1>really think he would give shit enough. Like obviously he

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01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:29.640
<v Speaker 1>tried to get on the island. Why he was denied,

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01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I find that to be really odd. But if anything,

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01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:36.840
<v Speaker 1>he would go to the ranch. With how much shit

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01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:40.199
<v Speaker 1>they're involved in when it comes to transhumanism, right and

1303
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:42.520
<v Speaker 1>all of these things, That's where he would be going.

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01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.760
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, he's just one. I mean he is

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01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:47.960
<v Speaker 1>he is one of the richest people in the world.

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01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.159
<v Speaker 1>So he's one of the biggest key components. When it

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01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.479
<v Speaker 1>is when you are talking about Epstein and you are

1308
01:11:54.520 --> 01:12:00.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about these sectors, him, Gates, Zuckerberg, Teal, Epstein, and

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01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:02.960
<v Speaker 1>then all the other scientists involved are the people that

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01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.039
<v Speaker 1>we are going to be continuously bringing up because I

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01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:06.600
<v Speaker 1>know people are like you guys have a heart on

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01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:09.359
<v Speaker 1>for these people. Look, all I'm saying is is that

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01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:13.800
<v Speaker 1>we can't talk about these sectors where they've dominated all

1314
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the research, and they've taken every person that has any

1315
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:19.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of brilliant idea, they have brought them into the fold.

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01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 1>At this point, we have to talk about these people

1317
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:27.279
<v Speaker 1>because they've literally monopolized everything. So when it comes to AI,

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01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:30.199
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to genetic sequencing, when it comes to

1319
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:34.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to create superhumans, trying to push us forward into space,

1320
01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:38.680
<v Speaker 1>human consciousness, all of these different types of factors, these

1321
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:41.000
<v Speaker 1>names are going to be the biggest ones in this game.

1322
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.399
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like there's other ones we just don't

1323
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 1>actually know about, the silent investors and who else is

1324
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:48.319
<v Speaker 1>in the fold when it comes to this.

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01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now let's talk about a couple more of those

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01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:53.680
<v Speaker 2>big names here. Contending with the article, Teal, who has

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01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:57.479
<v Speaker 2>donated over one point two five million to Donald Trump's

1328
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:02.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen campaign and fifteen million to JD. Vance's Senate bid,

1329
01:13:03.399 --> 01:13:06.720
<v Speaker 2>stands at the nexus of a new authoritarian regime, which

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01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:10.119
<v Speaker 2>he does ensuring that the company's trajectory aligns with an

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01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 2>American first quote unquote vision prioritizing law and order enforcement

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01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:18.600
<v Speaker 2>over constitutional safeguards. In March of twenty twenty five, Pallunteer

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01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:23.359
<v Speaker 2>secured a thirty million dollar contract with ICE to quote

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01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:26.760
<v Speaker 2>monitor undocumented immigrants end.

1335
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Quote a deal.

1336
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:32.840
<v Speaker 2>A deal, rights advocates Warren will expand warrantless surveillance and

1337
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:39.439
<v Speaker 2>racial profiling across border communities, which you know, I'm just saying,

1338
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:41.520
<v Speaker 2>if you if I's paid attention to the news of

1339
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:43.920
<v Speaker 2>what ICE has been up to these days, it's not

1340
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:46.399
<v Speaker 2>really going too well as far as the public opinion.

1341
01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:50.000
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, in twenty twenty, both the US and UK

1342
01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:54.279
<v Speaker 2>turned to its platform to coordinate vaccine rollouts, proof that

1343
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 2>once you build the data infrastructure, it can be repurposed

1344
01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:01.319
<v Speaker 2>for almost anything. Alex krps On a apologetic cheerleader for

1345
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Western militarism. His snide takes on quote unquote wokeness, which,

1346
01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.760
<v Speaker 2>let's be real, wokeness does suck, and his dismissal of

1347
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Silicon Valley distractions have charmed a growing course of hawks

1348
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:17.119
<v Speaker 2>and technocrats. Meanwhile, the Pentagon has been massively scaling up

1349
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:21.479
<v Speaker 2>its investment into artificial intelligence, in a move that underscores

1350
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:24.840
<v Speaker 2>just how central AI is becoming to the US military strategy.

1351
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:29.840
<v Speaker 2>The Defense Department quietly expanded its contract with Palenteer, boosting

1352
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:33.399
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling for the company's Maven smart system to nearly

1353
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:38.119
<v Speaker 2>one point three billion dollars through twenty twenty nine. So

1354
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:41.000
<v Speaker 2>they already wrote the check for that, and they have

1355
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 2>projections of how much and how further they wanted to

1356
01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:45.279
<v Speaker 2>go for the next at least.

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01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Three years.

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01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Jesus, so let's talk about that. Maven. Originally launched in

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01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:55.279
<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, Project Maven was pitched as a way to

1360
01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:59.520
<v Speaker 2>bring cutting edge tech into military operations. At its core,

1361
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.479
<v Speaker 2>the CYM leverages AI to come through vast streams of

1362
01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:06.920
<v Speaker 2>surveillance data from satellites, drones, and other sensors, rapidly identifying

1363
01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and tracking objects of interest in real time. Pallenteer snapped

1364
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:15.399
<v Speaker 2>up the contract only after Google, panicked by employee walkouts,

1365
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.359
<v Speaker 2>washed its hands of the project back in twenty eighteen.

1366
01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:23.439
<v Speaker 2>So Google had this contract right. That's why, for instance,

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01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:25.479
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people that were deployed were essentially

1368
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:29.800
<v Speaker 2>using Google Earth, a more refined version of it, a

1369
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:33.000
<v Speaker 2>more top secret security clearance version of Google Earth. But

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01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 2>that's what they were using to get data as far

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01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:37.920
<v Speaker 2>as the where the bad guys were where the good

1372
01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:41.960
<v Speaker 2>guys were all these things. Pallenteers snatched that up the

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01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:46.079
<v Speaker 2>second Google walked away from it. So today or as

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01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:49.039
<v Speaker 2>a time recording twenty twenty five, Maven is already driving

1375
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:53.199
<v Speaker 2>surveillance and targeting over Ukraine and accelerating US strikes on

1376
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Hooty rocket launchers around the Red Sea. Tasks that once

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01:15:57.039 --> 01:16:00.319
<v Speaker 2>demanded two thousand analysis and in two thous thousand and

1378
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 2>three now require a skeleton crew of just twenty because

1379
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:07.560
<v Speaker 2>ai dozen seconds what used to take many people working

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01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:08.479
<v Speaker 2>for many days to do.

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01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 1>That's wild. I actually looked up who owns Genesis as

1382
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.520
<v Speaker 1>well as we're talking about the US and government and

1383
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:20.119
<v Speaker 1>all of these things, So Genesis, the Genesis Mission is

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01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:24.600
<v Speaker 1>actually owned by the United States Department of Energy. So

1385
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:27.479
<v Speaker 1>because I've mentioned it a few times and I know

1386
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.680
<v Speaker 1>most people probably haven't actually looked into it. So it's

1387
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:34.079
<v Speaker 1>like it's built around the goal of combining government data

1388
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:39.359
<v Speaker 1>sets with advanced computing systems. It's initiative set out to

1389
01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:43.239
<v Speaker 1>reshape research processes that will take years. It's talking about

1390
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:47.800
<v Speaker 1>extending laboratory security protocols, next generation technology tied with local

1391
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and governmental impact, and so it goes into a lot

1392
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 1>more things, but pretty much Trump is trying to win

1393
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the AI race, the supercomputer race. But it's interesting as

1394
01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about this and how Google lost this contract

1395
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and then Teal's company took over, and then this whole

1396
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:09.640
<v Speaker 1>thing with the Data company and its databased AI collection

1397
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:13.479
<v Speaker 1>thing that's actually gathering collection information and then utilizing it

1398
01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to try to find the best research and best weapons

1399
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and best dot dot dot. So I think it all

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01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:22.760
<v Speaker 1>ties in with each other, one.

1401
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Hundred percent agree. On screen right now is a screenshot

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01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:28.560
<v Speaker 2>from a Forbes Israel article. Last month, the board of

1403
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:32.119
<v Speaker 2>directors of Palenteer hosted its first meeting of twenty twenty

1404
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:38.399
<v Speaker 2>four in Tel Aviv. Palenteer hosted its first meeting of

1405
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the year of twenty twenty four in Tel Aviv. Following

1406
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.760
<v Speaker 2>that meeting, Palenteer agreed to a strategic partnership with the

1407
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:50.439
<v Speaker 2>IDF to supply Palenteer technology to help the country's war effort.

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01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.600
<v Speaker 2>You will see on screen right now, some top Israeli

1409
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.439
<v Speaker 2>officials and your boy Peter Thiel right now.

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01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is a wow joke. Right What does it say?

1411
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:03.119
<v Speaker 1>We are proud to stand with Israel?

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01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:05.800
<v Speaker 2>We are proud to stand along east side Israel, supporting

1413
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 2>a culture of innovation, technology and democracy. So, continuing on

1414
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 2>as Palestinians continue bleeding under AI driven strikes, the shadow

1415
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:18.039
<v Speaker 2>of that same technology looms over the United States. The

1416
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.640
<v Speaker 2>algorithms that tag a Palestinian child as an quote unquote

1417
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:25.760
<v Speaker 2>enemy combatant can just as readily mark black Americans, immigrants,

1418
01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:30.399
<v Speaker 2>or dissidents here at home as threats. Again, you could

1419
01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:33.279
<v Speaker 2>tell the political leanings of the person who wrote this article,

1420
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:36.199
<v Speaker 2>but please just understand it could target anyone.

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01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not black to everybody, But I definitely do

1422
01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:45.119
<v Speaker 1>understand the bias tone in which this was written. But

1423
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I think there is warrant to what they're saying as well.

1424
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it could be utilized for any group, period,

1425
01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:55.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't I mean it could be one specific group, it

1426
01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:59.479
<v Speaker 1>could be multiple groups at targets, it could be everyone together.

1427
01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:02.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think that overall I find it to be

1428
01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:07.199
<v Speaker 1>rather interesting, this AI driven program. That's a killing program.

1429
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, civil rights lawyers have long warned of creeping

1430
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:15.000
<v Speaker 2>state surveillance. Today, Pallenteer stands poised to weaponize every single

1431
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:19.800
<v Speaker 2>private datum, your voting history, your social media posts, even

1432
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:24.199
<v Speaker 2>your grocery receipts, transforming America into a testing ground for

1433
01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the next wave of algorithmic repression. So we could read

1434
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:32.079
<v Speaker 2>about the whole gaza situation, but that's not exactly what

1435
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the whole conversation is as far as what we're talking

1436
01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:40.359
<v Speaker 2>about today. So rising resistance, despite the terror these systems

1437
01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:43.640
<v Speaker 2>have unleashed, Palestinians and their allies are refusing to be silent.

1438
01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:47.119
<v Speaker 2>At the Hill and Valley Forum in Washington, DC earlier

1439
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:50.920
<v Speaker 2>this spring, a Palestinian American activist named Sumer Mura Bach

1440
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:55.600
<v Speaker 2>storm the stage during palentteer CEO Alex Karp's keynotes, shouting,

1441
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.159
<v Speaker 2>you are getting wealthy off killing Palestinians, you are killing

1442
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:02.439
<v Speaker 2>my family and palace time. Video of her courageous interruption

1443
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:05.239
<v Speaker 2>quickly went viral, drawing hundreds of thousands of views on

1444
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:09.439
<v Speaker 2>TikTok and sparking coverage across major outlets. I bet you'd

1445
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:11.960
<v Speaker 2>have a hard time finding that now that Oracle has

1446
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:15.560
<v Speaker 2>bought it out, well, you know whatever. As Karp stumbles

1447
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 2>to respond, calling her a product of Hamas and insisting

1448
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:21.760
<v Speaker 2>his technology only kills terrorists. With the audience stunned, silence

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01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:23.000
<v Speaker 2>spoke volumes.

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01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with that.

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01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:29.159
<v Speaker 2>So now let's talk about Palenteer's database of Americans. Palenteer's

1452
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:33.039
<v Speaker 2>lethal footprint in Gaza foreshadows the grave risks its technology

1453
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:35.600
<v Speaker 2>poses here at home found in two thousand and four

1454
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:39.039
<v Speaker 2>with a two million dollar investment from the CIA's venture

1455
01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:42.600
<v Speaker 2>arm in Qtel, which good cult members, if you have

1456
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:45.439
<v Speaker 2>not learned about in Qtel, we did an episode on

1457
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.680
<v Speaker 2>that a while back. I'm not sure what the number

1458
01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:49.239
<v Speaker 2>is actually, Raven Lee. If you could look that up,

1459
01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:51.960
<v Speaker 2>it'd be great. While I'm reading this, we I had

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01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 2>found in Qtel. Basically when the CIA lost because the

1461
01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.920
<v Speaker 2>CIA was the largest drug dealer in America for decades.

1462
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.680
<v Speaker 2>That's that's not a joke, right, pretty much since the fifties,

1463
01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:07.720
<v Speaker 2>the CIA lost a lot of funding and they had

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01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:09.159
<v Speaker 2>to come up with a way to make money so

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01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:12.319
<v Speaker 2>they could still do the cool, sexy spy operations. So

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01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:16.319
<v Speaker 2>they started selling coke, they started selling heroin, they started

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01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:18.359
<v Speaker 2>doing all of these things. And that's a that's not

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01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:20.640
<v Speaker 2>even a crazy conspiracy at this point, that's by their

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01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>own emission, and allegedly the War on drugs ended that

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01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:28.439
<v Speaker 2>that's not true. The CIA is still the number one

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01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:31.600
<v Speaker 2>shipper of drugs into the country. To back that. If

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01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you've ever seen Made in America where your boy Tom

1473
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Cruise plays Barry Seal as a pilot who is flying

1474
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:42.159
<v Speaker 2>in cocaine for the CIA, all of that was a.

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01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Part of this.

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01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Now, when the CIA allegedly stopped selling drugs, they needed

1477
01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:51.279
<v Speaker 2>a venture capital arm to go and invest money and

1478
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:54.159
<v Speaker 2>make money to for the CIA so that they could

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01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:57.479
<v Speaker 2>fund their own operations. This is what in q tel

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01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.760
<v Speaker 2>is right, And so in two thousand and four, inc

1481
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:03.479
<v Speaker 2>you tell Investiga you can't find.

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01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It now, I don't. It won't pull up on the

1483
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:07.319
<v Speaker 1>pagegroon for me.

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01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, okay, I don't remember how long ago was

1485
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I say last year if you might have been two

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01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:14.439
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Time flies when you're having fun. But it's

1487
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:16.840
<v Speaker 2>at the point here, So go check us out on

1488
01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that episode if you want. But ink you tell do

1489
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:21.960
<v Speaker 2>your own research on that is where that came from.

1490
01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And so in two thousand and four, remember when I

1491
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 2>said Facebook was founded two thousand and four. Palenteer's Gotham

1492
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>platform was originally built to quote unquote fuse intelligence data

1493
01:22:34.039 --> 01:22:39.359
<v Speaker 2>for clandestine operations. Over the past decade, Gotham has quietly

1494
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>infiltrated local police fusion centers, ICE, investigative case management systems,

1495
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:49.399
<v Speaker 2>and even the Secret Service, each integration shipping away at

1496
01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:54.600
<v Speaker 2>due process and privacy. Under the Trump administration, doze championed

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01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:58.640
<v Speaker 2>in part by Elon Musk's allies, Palenteer is now poised

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01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:02.479
<v Speaker 2>to merge social security, the IRS filings, custom and Border

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01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>protection logs, DMV records, and more into a single AI

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01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:11.880
<v Speaker 2>powered mega API at the Department of Homeland Security. As

1501
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:16.800
<v Speaker 2>wireds May twenty twenty five, expose a detailed that master

1502
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:20.800
<v Speaker 2>database will do a few things. Number one, fuse personal data.

1503
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Link social Security numbers to IRS tax returns, CPB travel logs,

1504
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:31.399
<v Speaker 2>driver's license photos, and prescription histories, creating a dossier on

1505
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:36.880
<v Speaker 2>every individual's habits, associations, and political leanings. Number two, predict

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01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:42.760
<v Speaker 2>threat scores quote unquote, Oh yes, apply God to no.

1507
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I've we're both fucked. I be honest with you. Apply

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01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Gotham's predicted policy of policing algorithms to this unified database

1509
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>or data set, assigning each American a risk rating quote unquote,

1510
01:23:56.600 --> 01:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>a behavioral index that can justify surveillance assets, seizures, or

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01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>even pre emptim detention number three undermine oversight. In February

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01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:10.159
<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty five, civil rights groups filed suits to

1513
01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>block DOJ's access to IRS data, warning that this is

1514
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 2>a breach of constitutional privacy protections. Yet the administration insists

1515
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>its aims is to simply root out fraud quote unquote,

1516
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:27.680
<v Speaker 2>a convenient echo of the Israeli military's claim about minimizing

1517
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.680
<v Speaker 2>collateral damage, even as it continues to mass.

1518
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Murder children daily.

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01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, again with the leanings here, So anyway, when algorithms

1520
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>target people so they talk more about Israel, don't get

1521
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:43.319
<v Speaker 2>me wrong here. In the United States, Pallanteer's data first

1522
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>mentality has warped community policing into a dragnet that criminalizes

1523
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>poverty and protest. As early as twenty sixteen, Gotham's predicted

1524
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:55.880
<v Speaker 2>policing modules labeled neighborhoods with large black populations high risk

1525
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:00.479
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote, fueling waves of stop and frisk and feeding

1526
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:04.920
<v Speaker 2>local data into federal watch lists. Now, with Dooja's Mega API,

1527
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the same AI that tagged a Gozantine as a combatant

1528
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.880
<v Speaker 2>could tag a Muslim college student in Detroit as a

1529
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:14.840
<v Speaker 2>potential extremist. There may be something there, but anyway, all

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01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:19.319
<v Speaker 2>without judicial oversight. In April twenty twenty five, ACLU report

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01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>warns that if pallenteers algorithms assign scores quote unquote based

1532
01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>on car ownership or voting frequency, we risk a Chinese

1533
01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>style social credit system, punishing dissent and chilling free speech

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01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.279
<v Speaker 2>under the guise of public safety.

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01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And I have to agree with that. I agree, honestly,

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01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:45.039
<v Speaker 1>I do agree. I think that is definitely interesting. I

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01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>want to can you scroll up to the paragraph ahead, Oh,

1538
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:50.479
<v Speaker 1>is a real thing? Yeah, I just wanted to see

1539
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>what it said really quick, acceptable civilian casualty threshold spike

1540
01:25:55.760 --> 01:26:00.479
<v Speaker 1>from fifteen to twenty percent per strike per strike. Sorry, yeah,

1541
01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to see what it said about it.

1542
01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hmmm, it's a it's interesting. It's an

1543
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>interesting code that it's using. I like how it's labeled

1544
01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Gotham by the way. Yeah, I was like, okay, Batman,

1545
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a little Gotham city over here. This is a weird.

1546
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely interesting that this is still actually being allowed

1547
01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:26.479
<v Speaker 1>to be used. But people though, I think people have

1548
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>come to a point where they just accept the data collection,

1549
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>because hell, even if you use the Walmart app for example,

1550
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it tracks what you buy and if you buy it

1551
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>more than once, you literally have a list and it

1552
01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>will just be like, do you want to just add

1553
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>all this to your list? I mean, it's tracking every

1554
01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>single thing. It's predicting everything that you're doing at this point.

1555
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:52.279
<v Speaker 1>And the face I D thing that's become super easy

1556
01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to be able to use all your stuff, the tap

1557
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:57.279
<v Speaker 1>to pay, like all of it is tracking everything that

1558
01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>you're doing completely. So I think people have just kind

1559
01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of given up at this point and you're in any

1560
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:07.319
<v Speaker 1>conveniency for your rights.

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01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:12.079
<v Speaker 2>And all of this, all of this would not be

1562
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:17.720
<v Speaker 2>possible without Jeffrey Epstein, and that has been confirmed. Beyond

1563
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:20.399
<v Speaker 2>any this is this is a random article. And again

1564
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>it's very clear to see that this is a very

1565
01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>liberal leaning article. The person who wrote this is not

1566
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.199
<v Speaker 2>a fan of a few different things, and I would

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01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I would just venture to guess. I don't know this

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01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>for a fact, but I would guess that the person

1569
01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:37.159
<v Speaker 2>who wrote this article is also very anti two A.

1570
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that for a fact. Just got a feeling,

1571
01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, I bet the person who wrote this article

1572
01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:45.560
<v Speaker 2>really wish is that Hillary Clinton would be president, right,

1573
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know this for a fact, just got

1574
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:48.720
<v Speaker 2>a weird feeling.

1575
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:50.119
<v Speaker 1>They probably also believe there's.

1576
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:54.600
<v Speaker 2>More than two genders. But but the points that it

1577
01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:59.560
<v Speaker 2>is making about Pallenteer are true. All the dates, the times,

1578
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the names that are being dropped. This is accurate, regardless

1579
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of political leanings, regardless of the tone of this article.

1580
01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I pulled it up. So all of

1581
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>this does tie back to Jeffrey Epstein, All of it

1582
01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:17.239
<v Speaker 2>ties back to Palenteer, and believe it or not, into

1583
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:22.239
<v Speaker 2>the CIA with inq tel So continuing on here. So

1584
01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:28.399
<v Speaker 2>algorithms and data analytics can track disease outbreaks, forecast natural disasters,

1585
01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:32.199
<v Speaker 2>and optimize public health responses. But Palenteer's approach is built

1586
01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>on obfuscation. The company refuses to identify its government clients,

1587
01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:40.600
<v Speaker 2>hides its source code under non disclosure agreements, and invokes

1588
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>a corporate mantra of we can't comment, even as it

1589
01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>pulled in over two point seven billion dollars in federal

1590
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:54.039
<v Speaker 2>contracts since two thousand and nine, So it's from nine

1591
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>to twenty twenty five, This company that was just started

1592
01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>four pulled in two point seven billion, big boy billions

1593
01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>in government contracts alone, not to mention all the other

1594
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:11.439
<v Speaker 2>private equity groups that are using Pallentteer for their own purposes.

1595
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:13.800
<v Speaker 2>This is not social media stuff, This is not any

1596
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>of the other This is strictly government contracts. Hey na, right,

1597
01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>why not? Why not? All of a sudden, Oh, Peter

1598
01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Teele would never use this. He would never sell this

1599
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:28.479
<v Speaker 2>to China. The fuck he wouldn't. Why wouldn't he? Why

1600
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't he? He would never use this with the Russians?

1601
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Why not? I don't see why.

1602
01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's gonna help he why not sell to

1603
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the highest bidders? And that makes more sense to me?

1604
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly ravenly all right, So anyway, anyway, some are infinite.

1605
01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:47.279
<v Speaker 1>The rest of that article, or the rest of that

1606
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>paragraph is interesting about what Peter Thiele says. I read

1607
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:51.479
<v Speaker 1>it really quicker.

1608
01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:55.079
<v Speaker 2>This is Alex Karp who's saying, and actually so. Alex

1609
01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Krp boasts that his software single handedly stop the far

1610
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:02.119
<v Speaker 2>right in Europe, ring hollow when the same system devastate

1611
01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Gaza and enslave American civil life under predictive algorithms. Peter Teel,

1612
01:30:07.319 --> 01:30:10.800
<v Speaker 2>who once said he's comfortable with lying about the company's

1613
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:15.399
<v Speaker 2>operations and harbors a bias towards Israel reminds us that

1614
01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Palenteer's loyalties are transactional, not principled. I would agree with

1615
01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:25.119
<v Speaker 2>that for sure. I think the article only got there's

1616
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:27.199
<v Speaker 2>a little bit left. Let's see one struggle in future.

1617
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:31.439
<v Speaker 2>So again, from Gaza's destroyed neighborhoods to American city centers

1618
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>bristling with surveillance cameras, Pallentteer is the prime example of

1619
01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>how data is weaponized against our collective humanity. When Palenteer

1620
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:41.319
<v Speaker 2>crafts a kill liss for the IDF that slaughters Palaestinian

1621
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:44.399
<v Speaker 2>mothers and children, and then turns that same AI towards

1622
01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>US citizens, branding them extremists or threats to national security,

1623
01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>a clear continuum emerges more technology that dehumanizes, marginalizes, and

1624
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:59.479
<v Speaker 2>ultimately erases dissent. That a company funded by Jeffrey Epstein's

1625
01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:03.399
<v Speaker 2>forty milli million dollar investment in Peter Teel, still unexplained

1626
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>for the record, has empowered by Trump to construct what

1627
01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:12.199
<v Speaker 2>he called the largest surveillance police state in American history

1628
01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>is no coincidence.

1629
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a direct quote.

1630
01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Palenteer's AI has helped slaughter tens of thousand GAZA through

1631
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:22.039
<v Speaker 2>algorithmic risk scores, and now lurks in the US poised

1632
01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:26.039
<v Speaker 2>to target immigrants, blacks, activists, and dissenters. Again, they keep

1633
01:31:26.079 --> 01:31:29.439
<v Speaker 2>going off of Yeah, they're obviously targeting the blacks, Palenteers

1634
01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>targeting everybody. That's not a racial thing. Although it could

1635
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>be used for racial things. It could also be used

1636
01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>for political ideations. It could be used towards gun owners,

1637
01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:42.479
<v Speaker 2>It could be used towards a certain tax bracket like I. Okay,

1638
01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:47.439
<v Speaker 2>the fight isn't against Israel Palenteer, It's against the political

1639
01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>machine engineered for death, deception.

1640
01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:52.079
<v Speaker 1>And to erase or the erasure of freedom.

1641
01:31:52.520 --> 01:31:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Tools of oppression can also be tools of resistance if exposed, scrutinized,

1642
01:31:57.159 --> 01:32:00.439
<v Speaker 2>and morally challenged. Either we allow Palenteers to build a

1643
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>digital gendar marine.

1644
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I actually don't know that word.

1645
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Either gendarmerie, all right, Or we defend the idea of

1646
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>the human life and dignity lie beyond the reach of

1647
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>any algorithm. Okay, So moving on here. DARPA's lifelog was

1648
01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>shut down, but Teal figured out a way for people

1649
01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>to willingly give over their own data to his system.

1650
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:31.399
<v Speaker 2>This is where Palanteer really came from. And that forty

1651
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>million dollar investment from old Jeffrey Epstein, which allegedly Peter

1652
01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Teal who was homies with him, didn't know anything about

1653
01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>what was going on. Allegedly, right, totally bullshit. So now

1654
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:52.079
<v Speaker 2>this is why Facebook beat MySpace because they had government funding, right,

1655
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:55.199
<v Speaker 2>this is why. This is the same reason why Spotify

1656
01:32:55.760 --> 01:33:00.479
<v Speaker 2>got big, why Instagram got big, Peter Teal and DARPA,

1657
01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>that's it. This is why certain social media platforms who

1658
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:10.000
<v Speaker 2>or I should say that are made better and could

1659
01:33:10.039 --> 01:33:14.319
<v Speaker 2>do successfull just be great, they don't because they don't

1660
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>have government funding or DARPA. And believe it or not,

1661
01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>this is why certain things go viral and certain things don't.

1662
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Certain things hit on what the government thinks is okay

1663
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:28.079
<v Speaker 2>to go viral, certain things don't. It's crazy how it

1664
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:29.239
<v Speaker 2>all really shakes out.

1665
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Really, that's really fascinating when you think about it. Yeah,

1666
01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>about what actually is allowed to go viral verse people,

1667
01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>because I've watched a lot of people talk about the

1668
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:44.119
<v Speaker 1>algorithms and how do they work and trying to beat

1669
01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the code and all of this stuff, and how some

1670
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>people just randomly go multiva viral and all this crap overnight.

1671
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, if you really think about the data

1672
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that they're collecting and the algorithm and how they're targeting

1673
01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>people and utilizing all of this stuff, they're purpose swaying

1674
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:05.439
<v Speaker 1>and pushing different narratives and things based on what the

1675
01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>top AI information data sequencing. They have to be able

1676
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to hit different demographic draft demographic groups my lord, yeah,

1677
01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and to be able to shift and move the direction around,

1678
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:23.479
<v Speaker 1>uh for what people are interested in and what people

1679
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>are going to continuously talk about, Go research, go look

1680
01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>at it makes sense. I mean, I'm surprised that we

1681
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:33.399
<v Speaker 1>are even allowed to put half the stuff on the

1682
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Internet that we currently not just us When I say we,

1683
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the American people that we can as

1684
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of right now. I do personally feel like we're going

1685
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>to be shifting into a situation where a lot of

1686
01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.439
<v Speaker 1>our things may or may not be allowed to be pushed.

1687
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that it's going to be reaching

1688
01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>the masses that a lot of the people are you

1689
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>are used to because of the algorithms. But they had

1690
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:02.199
<v Speaker 1>to be really sneaky about it, right because they don't

1691
01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>want to alert the people that they're infringing on all

1692
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>of their rights. They will trickle it down one little

1693
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:11.720
<v Speaker 1>thing at a time to where you're just so n

1694
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>bothered by it. That's just like a mild inconvenience. So

1695
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, yeah, okay, sure, like the iPhone updates, right,

1696
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>nobody really likes their phones being updated. And if you know,

1697
01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>if you actually go in and read the updates, you

1698
01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>have to like physically turn off a whole bunch of

1699
01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:31.119
<v Speaker 1>tracking things in your phone itself. Because there is a

1700
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>bunch of stuff in the iPhone updates for the last

1701
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>six updates.

1702
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1703
01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>It's all about tracking your data, sharing your data, watching

1704
01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>everything you're doing, and you actually physically have to go

1705
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>in and find it. You have to do step by

1706
01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>step which I had a YouTube it because I'm dumb,

1707
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>but I step by stepped it and how to shut

1708
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>off all of my stuff. But most people aren't doing that,

1709
01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and so you're giving away literally anything in everything that

1710
01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:59.079
<v Speaker 1>is attached to you, to this database, to the to palatine,

1711
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to all of these things that Peter Tiele and Epstein funded,

1712
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:06.479
<v Speaker 1>made and created and push forward for the data collection

1713
01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>of Now where we are at entering into with AI.

1714
01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I'll even take it a step further. Why

1715
01:36:15.319 --> 01:36:20.399
<v Speaker 2>do you think certain music gets really big out of nowhere?

1716
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Where do these quote unquote industry plants come from, right?

1717
01:36:26.319 --> 01:36:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Why do certain people get pushed to the top of

1718
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>the pecking order almost out of nowhere, and others that

1719
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:37.399
<v Speaker 2>are way more talented you probably have never heard of.

1720
01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Why are certain movies pushed to the very tippy top

1721
01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:45.119
<v Speaker 2>of the forefront. Meanwhile, the Sound of Freedom had to

1722
01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:49.319
<v Speaker 2>be self funded by Mel Gibson because it was exposing

1723
01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:52.600
<v Speaker 2>literally everything Epstein was a doing. And it wasn't even

1724
01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>about Epstein. It was about others just like him, but

1725
01:36:55.960 --> 01:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't even about him. It's this is all because

1726
01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>the algorithms, the data that is being collected by the

1727
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:06.960
<v Speaker 2>government is pushing certain things to push a certain narrative.

1728
01:37:07.399 --> 01:37:11.119
<v Speaker 2>The same reason why in the early nineties the government

1729
01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>pulled in all of these young rap artists and said, hey, listen,

1730
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>we want you to really start leaning into the gangster

1731
01:37:18.359 --> 01:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>rap thing, start talking about drugs and slapping hose and

1732
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:25.680
<v Speaker 2>jail and all that. We want you to really start

1733
01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:28.640
<v Speaker 2>pushing that agenda way more heavy than you already are.

1734
01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you do this, you're going to

1735
01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>see your sales skyrocket. We're going to change some certain

1736
01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:38.479
<v Speaker 2>rules to where radio stations will play you, obviously with

1737
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:41.399
<v Speaker 2>the cuss words bleeped out, but like we're gonna start

1738
01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>letting this go out to where anybody can hear this,

1739
01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:46.399
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna make this deal happen. Right, And how

1740
01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Ice QB's even talked about how he was pulled into

1741
01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:53.039
<v Speaker 2>that meeting, and so it's this, This goes so much

1742
01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:58.199
<v Speaker 2>deeper than just what your Amazon shopping cart randomly suggested

1743
01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:02.199
<v Speaker 2>for you. Right, This is this goes decades back, and

1744
01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>it's going so far to where now it's and we've

1745
01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>ran the experiment. Right, how many people have started talking

1746
01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:11.279
<v Speaker 2>about cat food around their phone when they don't own

1747
01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>a cat, just to see how long it takes to

1748
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:16.720
<v Speaker 2>start seeing ads and coupons for cat food start coming up.

1749
01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Mmm.

1750
01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:19.880
<v Speaker 2>This is all all a part of it.

1751
01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:25.720
<v Speaker 1>The sound, the sound information as well, so like the

1752
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:31.079
<v Speaker 1>entire thing about sound science and like the hurts and

1753
01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:34.159
<v Speaker 1>all of these things and how they can change, like

1754
01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:38.479
<v Speaker 1>your actual brain pattern you can change apparently your cell

1755
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:41.159
<v Speaker 1>like your cell your makeup as well, Like enough sound

1756
01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:44.039
<v Speaker 1>of a certain way you can change if people get depressed,

1757
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>if they get angry, if they get sad, if they

1758
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>get happy, all of these things just by the music themselves.

1759
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>And then on top of that, you're also brainwashing in

1760
01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a sense because if you hear it over and over again,

1761
01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>there's songs that I probably haven't heard since I was

1762
01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a teenager that if they came on right now, I

1763
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:04.399
<v Speaker 1>would know every single word. Yeah, exactly, but yet I

1764
01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:08.159
<v Speaker 1>can't remember, you know, something simple from a few days ago.

1765
01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>It's very intentional, it's very interesting, and the fact that

1766
01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Epstein and all of his little homies were super involved

1767
01:39:17.720 --> 01:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>in that area as well, including all of this, like

1768
01:39:21.239 --> 01:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>it all ties together, and it all ties to that

1769
01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>summit that you're going to talk about too Big Time,

1770
01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and how that was one of the key components in

1771
01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>how we've ended up here today.

1772
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I couldn't agree more. It's it's all way more

1773
01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>connected than what people were really aware of, and believe

1774
01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:46.159
<v Speaker 2>it or not, all of it ties in to Jeffrey Epstein.

1775
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean in some crazy obscure way where

1776
01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you got to kind of you know, well, maybe if

1777
01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:53.359
<v Speaker 2>you look at it that way, and maybe they rub

1778
01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:57.079
<v Speaker 2>shoulders at a certain point. No, there's a direct chain

1779
01:39:57.119 --> 01:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of custody to this fucker. So let's backtrack, right, So

1780
01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:04.960
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about these things in three with DARPAH, four

1781
01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:09.079
<v Speaker 2>with Facebook, all of this, but in the spring of

1782
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two, So keep in mind September eleventh,

1783
01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:16.199
<v Speaker 2>it took place two thousand and one, a few not

1784
01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>even six months raven not even six months after that,

1785
01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein hosted a conference at his Island home for

1786
01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:31.520
<v Speaker 2>a quote unquote common Sense Symposium. When I say common

1787
01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>sense symposium, let's talk about it. So this is an

1788
01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:39.119
<v Speaker 2>article from the ACM Digital Library. It's an AI library,

1789
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>essentially the Saint Thomas Common Sense Symposium Designing Architectures for

1790
01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Human Level Intelligence Designing Architectures for Human level Intelligence in

1791
01:40:54.439 --> 01:40:57.720
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two. So keep in mind AI existed

1792
01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:01.359
<v Speaker 2>well before this. This was to make AI more human.

1793
01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's read into it here. This is just the abstract

1794
01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>of it. To build a machine that has quote unquote

1795
01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:11.720
<v Speaker 2>common sense was once a principal goal in the field

1796
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:15.479
<v Speaker 2>of artificial intelligence, but most researchers in recent years have

1797
01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>retreated from that ambitious aim. Instead, each developed some special

1798
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:22.760
<v Speaker 2>technique that could deal with some class of problem well

1799
01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:27.079
<v Speaker 2>but does poorly at almost everything else. We are convinced, however,

1800
01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:30.760
<v Speaker 2>that no one such that no one such method will

1801
01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:34.199
<v Speaker 2>ever turn out to be quote unquote best, and that instead,

1802
01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:37.600
<v Speaker 2>the powerful AI systems of the future will use a

1803
01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:41.279
<v Speaker 2>diverse array of resources that together will deal with a

1804
01:41:41.319 --> 01:41:44.840
<v Speaker 2>great range of problems. To build a machine that's resourceful

1805
01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>enough to have human like common sense, we must develop

1806
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:52.479
<v Speaker 2>ways to combine the advantage of multiple methods to represent knowledge,

1807
01:41:52.760 --> 01:41:56.399
<v Speaker 2>multiple ways to make inferences, and multiple ways to learn.

1808
01:41:56.880 --> 01:42:00.399
<v Speaker 2>We hailed a two day symposium in Saint Thomas, US

1809
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Virgin Islands to discuss a project to develop a new

1810
01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:10.600
<v Speaker 2>art architectural schemes that can bridge between different strategies and representations.

1811
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:14.399
<v Speaker 2>This article reports on these events and ideas developed at

1812
01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:17.359
<v Speaker 2>the meeting, and subsequent thoughts by authors on how to

1813
01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:23.399
<v Speaker 2>make progress. So this symposium, and it's called the common

1814
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Sense Conference or the common Sense Symposium. Excuse me, that

1815
01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:32.079
<v Speaker 2>took place at little Saint James, it says Saint Thomas,

1816
01:42:32.119 --> 01:42:35.560
<v Speaker 2>But that's very inaccurate. It was at Jeffrey Epstein's home,

1817
01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:38.680
<v Speaker 2>his island home with the temple, the whole thing. He

1818
01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:43.880
<v Speaker 2>brought in, all of these tech gurus, these AI experts,

1819
01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:49.319
<v Speaker 2>and all this. Attendees included intellectual or I'm sorry, influential

1820
01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:50.439
<v Speaker 2>AI developers.

1821
01:42:51.239 --> 01:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Jesus, I can't even remote notes, excuse me.

1822
01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Attendees included the most influential AI developers on the planet,

1823
01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>such as Marvin Minsky from MIT, who is seen as

1824
01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>on paper he's listed.

1825
01:43:04.239 --> 01:43:05.479
<v Speaker 1>As the godfather of AI.

1826
01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I would argue that he's not because without Epstein's money

1827
01:43:09.920 --> 01:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and Epstein's connections, and we've all heard about Epstein's connections

1828
01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>at MIT, right, which we'll talk about here in a moment.

1829
01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:23.720
<v Speaker 2>And how about ken Ford, who was former NASA and

1830
01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>former DARPA. He was at this symposium in two thousand

1831
01:43:28.279 --> 01:43:28.479
<v Speaker 2>and two.

1832
01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:32.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm so shocked, Oh my, oh my godness. Right, I

1833
01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>never saw this coming, geeze.

1834
01:43:35.319 --> 01:43:38.199
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about Minski a little bit here. He's

1835
01:43:38.239 --> 01:43:41.479
<v Speaker 2>important because not only is he the founder of MIT's

1836
01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>AI lab, but Jeffrey Epstein donated eight hundred and fifty

1837
01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars between two thousand and two and twenty seventeen.

1838
01:43:49.840 --> 01:43:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein paid seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars after

1839
01:43:54.279 --> 01:43:58.199
<v Speaker 2>his two thousand and eight conviction. So all we're all

1840
01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:01.319
<v Speaker 2>on the same page here. There's no doubts that he

1841
01:44:01.479 --> 01:44:05.239
<v Speaker 2>was clearly a registered sex offender after this point, and

1842
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:08.279
<v Speaker 2>they still accepted seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars from him,

1843
01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Just so we're all on the same page, right, But

1844
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:13.159
<v Speaker 2>that was just a MIT.

1845
01:44:13.319 --> 01:44:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

1846
01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Actually I should also mention MIT referred to Jeffrey Epstein

1847
01:44:16.960 --> 01:44:21.640
<v Speaker 2>as Voldemort or he who should not be named. They

1848
01:44:21.720 --> 01:44:25.079
<v Speaker 2>knew exactly who he was, and that's also very you

1849
01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:27.000
<v Speaker 2>could look that up. That's not a joke. That didn't

1850
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:30.560
<v Speaker 2>just know MIT on paper When they would refer to

1851
01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the money coming from Voldemort, it is because they knew

1852
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that they couldn't put on paper that Jeffrey Epstein is

1853
01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the one that was sending them the money because he

1854
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:43.399
<v Speaker 2>was a registered pedophile and sex offender, So they just

1855
01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:46.199
<v Speaker 2>referred to him as Voldemort even at the labs.

1856
01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:48.159
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

1857
01:44:48.199 --> 01:44:51.640
<v Speaker 2>He who cannot be named right to keep, to keep

1858
01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:56.960
<v Speaker 2>the integrity of MIT's crystal clear reputation, of.

1859
01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Course, of course, of course fake blood money, Zach official money.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, take pedophile money, and it's just but it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>for the greater good.

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01:45:05.640 --> 01:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>It's for the growth of AI.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a better way to spy on people and

1864
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<v Speaker 2>control their lives, y'all. So what if they took pedophile

1865
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:17.439
<v Speaker 2>money as a way to enslave the entire human race?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Like I'm sorry, like out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that is crazy as fuck. But not even according

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<v Speaker 2>to the emails. According to their own admission, that is

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<v Speaker 2>what was going down.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, but that was just mit. Let's not forget

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01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:39.760
<v Speaker 2>that Jeffrey Epstein paid six point five million dollars to Harvard,

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01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:46.119
<v Speaker 2>most of it to a researcher named Martin Novak, which

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<v Speaker 2>Novak no whak. It's pronounced Novak, but it's spelled like

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01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:55.359
<v Speaker 2>no whak. And who is this Martin Noak? Guy Novak?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that interesting character.

1877
01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>An interesting character, indeed, Raven Lee. So this is from

1878
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the Sunday Guardian. Who is Martin Novak? Over four thousand

1879
01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>mentions in the emails, how Harvard's professor maintained close ties

1880
01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:15.640
<v Speaker 2>to Jeffrey Epstein's post conviction explained, So he is a

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01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Harvard professor with deep ties to Epstein and revealed in

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01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:22.319
<v Speaker 2>the DOJ files that six point five million dollar gift

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01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>in cryptic emails private travel and Harvard sanctioned detailed. He

1884
01:46:28.119 --> 01:46:29.800
<v Speaker 2>let's get into it here. So this is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>his all Novak And then again, this isn't even mentioning

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01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the president of Harvard was a frequent

1887
01:46:38.039 --> 01:46:40.840
<v Speaker 2>flyer to Epstein Island and has been removed from his

1888
01:46:40.920 --> 01:46:43.079
<v Speaker 2>position until they can get to the bottom of how

1889
01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:44.159
<v Speaker 2>deep his ties went.

1890
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<v Speaker 1>Like everything for the rest everything the old boy and Epstein,

1891
01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Like Epstein had a key card to tons of laboratories

1892
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and his own office with him. Oh yes, from him,

1893
01:46:58.800 --> 01:47:03.079
<v Speaker 1>like he pretty much much funded all of Harbor, Harvor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired, Yeah, Harvard, havad I can't talk tonight apparently,

1895
01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, no, he pretty much funded multiple programs in

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01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:19.359
<v Speaker 1>all different departments and was heavily involved in everything for

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01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:20.479
<v Speaker 1>decades there.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. So now let's read a little bit

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01:47:22.920 --> 01:47:26.720
<v Speaker 2>about Martin here. So a senior Harvard professor's long standing

1900
01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:30.159
<v Speaker 2>connections to the late financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey

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01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Epstein's are laid out in thousands of pages of recently

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01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:37.640
<v Speaker 2>released federal records, showing a relationship that involved millions in

1903
01:47:37.680 --> 01:47:42.680
<v Speaker 2>research funding, coded messages, and travel to Epstein's estates Professor

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01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Martin Novak, a well known mathematical biologist. A well known

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01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:54.439
<v Speaker 2>mathematical biologist, appears more than four thousand times in the

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01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:58.079
<v Speaker 2>records released under the twenty twenty five Epstein Files Transparency Act.

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01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:02.920
<v Speaker 2>So who is this guy? Who's old? Martin Novak is

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01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:06.840
<v Speaker 2>an Australian born professor of math and biology at Harvard University,

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<v Speaker 2>widely seen as a leader in evolutionary dynamics. Evolutionary dynamics

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<v Speaker 2>these are very very very critical terms that I'm using

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01:48:20.399 --> 01:48:23.319
<v Speaker 2>right now. We're going to get into more here in

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01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:26.880
<v Speaker 2>a bit, just so s'tre clear. His research explores how

1913
01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:32.359
<v Speaker 2>cooperation develops, as well as viral systems and cancer progression.

1914
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<v Speaker 2>A highly cited scholar, he has worked in positions at

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<v Speaker 2>Oxford and the Institute for Advanced Study. At Harvard, he

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01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:46.720
<v Speaker 2>founded and ran the Program for Evolutionary Dynamics or PED.

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<v Speaker 2>Now PED that is a program, Like I said, program

1918
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<v Speaker 2>for evolutionary dynamics. This is a very fancy political way

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<v Speaker 2>to say eugenics. Yes, there's no other way to say this.

1920
01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Evolutionary dynamics. So we are talking about manufacturing. Survival of

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<v Speaker 2>the fit is to get the best results that you

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01:49:13.079 --> 01:49:16.600
<v Speaker 2>deem as the best results. It is. It is a

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01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:20.319
<v Speaker 2>very very very fancy way to say he founded and

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<v Speaker 2>ran the program for eugenics at Harvard. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty much. I mean I actually pulled up the

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<v Speaker 1>actual definition definition of it. Please do just because so

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<v Speaker 1>like is like so bright, okay, it says. Evolutionary dynamics

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01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:43.199
<v Speaker 1>is a branch of mathematical evolutionary biology that developed from

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<v Speaker 1>research using differential equations to model both genetic and phenotype

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<v Speaker 1>phenotypic phenotypic typic sorry change. Thus is different from population

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01:49:55.399 --> 01:50:00.039
<v Speaker 1>genetics and quantitative genetics that focuses on genetic change, and

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<v Speaker 1>from population dynamics that describes change in population size over time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does not include genetic change. The other reference

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<v Speaker 1>it says as evolutionary dynamics refers to the study of

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<v Speaker 1>how populations evolve over time, influenced by various factors such

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<v Speaker 1>as reproductive competitiveness, and selection. This field combines my mathematical

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<v Speaker 1>modeling with biological principles to understand the changes in traits

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01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and behaviors within populations. It encompasses the analysis of population dynamics,

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01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:35.600
<v Speaker 1>including how traits like the body size or forging strategies

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01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>evolve in response to environmental pressures. So this eat and

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01:50:40.680 --> 01:50:46.439
<v Speaker 1>of itself is the mathematical equations of how populations can

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01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:53.159
<v Speaker 1>evolve or be affected. This, encompassed with genome sequencing and

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01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:58.159
<v Speaker 1>other evolutionary things, can in fact be used for eugenics.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not even that can be This is mathematical

1945
01:51:02.479 --> 01:51:07.239
<v Speaker 2>certainty eugenics. This isn't uh oh, well, we'll just make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that all the smartest people get together over the

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01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:14.520
<v Speaker 2>next three three generations and we will create a nation

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<v Speaker 2>of super geniuses. No, no, no, this is gene splicing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is breaking things down at the DNA level to

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<v Speaker 2>mathematically ensure that you're getting the best results possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to disagree with you. That's not entirely

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<v Speaker 1>inherent with the evolutionary dynamics means.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what his version of it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a version, well, it includes a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>When you need the quantitative genetics to be able to

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01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:49.840
<v Speaker 1>add that in and the population genetics and also the

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01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>sequencing to be able to create eugenics in and of itself,

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<v Speaker 1>this is well, you know that evolutionary dynamic thing it's

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01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:05.079
<v Speaker 1>self is a branch of mathematical evaluation. So it's evaluating

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01:52:05.079 --> 01:52:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the biology in which the components get changed or influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by outside factors. And so you're factoring in in a

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01:52:13.399 --> 01:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>ratio mathematical way to see production levels, competitive levels, if

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<v Speaker 1>there is if starvation happens, what are the traits that

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<v Speaker 1>might change if there is a variant in air quality, water,

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<v Speaker 1>food quality. How does that play into the genome? How

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<v Speaker 1>does our DNA actually respond to it, and what traits

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01:52:37.279 --> 01:52:41.119
<v Speaker 1>evolve from it? Can behaviors of the population be tracked

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<v Speaker 1>mathematically to determine what is coming next?

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>If that makes any sense? Like, you are correct, because yes,

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01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>they did utilize this as a component to create eugenics,

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01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>and it is a part of their eugenic per but

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01:53:01.199 --> 01:53:03.760
<v Speaker 1>in and of itself is not the key principle. So

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<v Speaker 1>the key principles of this it of course it pops up.

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01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:10.279
<v Speaker 1>It won't tell it. It won't tell it actually, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a key principle fact that I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>read that's pretty easy to understand, but it sucks because

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<v Speaker 1>it's yahoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway? Okay, so he's the one that founded Harvard's Program

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01:53:22.880 --> 01:53:27.079
<v Speaker 2>for Evolutionary Dynamics or PED, right, and again, that's a

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01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:32.119
<v Speaker 2>very fancy way of just saying he developed Harvard's eugenics program.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. So now, Jeffrey Epstein and no Whak Novak

1985
01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:40.239
<v Speaker 2>rather had a close, long standing financial and personal relationship

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01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:43.239
<v Speaker 2>that persisted even after his two thousand and eight conviction.

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01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Major funding. In two thousand and three, Epstein provided a

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01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:53.399
<v Speaker 2>six point five million dollar gift to establish the eugenics

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say ped I'm gonna say the eugenics

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<v Speaker 2>at Harvard, which Novak led. This constituted the bulk of

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01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Epstein's nine point one million in donations to the university.

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01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:08.279
<v Speaker 2>So basically two thirds of all of Epstein's donations to

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01:54:08.439 --> 01:54:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Harvard were specifically done for their eugenics lab. So Epstein

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01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:17.159
<v Speaker 2>kept a private office in the Eugenics building for almost

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01:54:17.159 --> 01:54:20.920
<v Speaker 2>ten years, visiting more than forty times between twenty ten

1996
01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.199
<v Speaker 2>and twenty eighteen, in spite of his sentence. Now the

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01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:29.439
<v Speaker 2>cryptic emails. The files include a twenty fourteen email exchange

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01:54:29.479 --> 01:54:32.920
<v Speaker 2>where Novak wrote to Epstein, our spy was captured after

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<v Speaker 2>completing her mission. Epstein replied, did you torture her? The

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01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:44.560
<v Speaker 2>context remains unexplained. What spy, what mission? And why would

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01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Epstein ask if she was tortured? Novak has not commented

2002
01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:54.039
<v Speaker 2>on this now they're personal ties. Correspondence shows Novak stayed

2003
01:54:54.119 --> 01:54:59.800
<v Speaker 2>at Epstein's New York apartment, thanked Jizlain Maxwell for amazing hospitality,

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01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:04.039
<v Speaker 2>and was planned beneficiary for a five million dollar bequest

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01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:10.840
<v Speaker 2>from Epstein just days before his death alleged death. Of course, now,

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01:55:11.720 --> 01:55:16.279
<v Speaker 2>private travel emails detail arrangements for Novak to and a

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01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:20.119
<v Speaker 2>companion to fly to Saint Thomas, near Epstein's private island,

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01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:23.640
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve and twenty fourteen. So what was the

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<v Speaker 2>impact on Novak's career at Harvard? In twenty twenty, Harvard's

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01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:32.000
<v Speaker 2>disciplinary action was taken on Novak after conducting an internal

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01:55:32.079 --> 01:55:36.319
<v Speaker 2>review of its Epstein ties. In twenty twenty one, Harvard

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01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:40.680
<v Speaker 2>placed Novak on paid administrative leave, barring or barred him

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01:55:40.680 --> 01:55:44.520
<v Speaker 2>from undergraduate supervision for two years, and permanently closed their

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01:55:44.560 --> 01:55:50.199
<v Speaker 2>eugenics lab. Their reinstatement, all sanctions were lifted in twenty

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01:55:50.279 --> 01:55:54.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. Novak remains a tenured professor with joint appointment

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01:55:55.000 --> 01:56:01.560
<v Speaker 2>appointments rather in mathematics and organismic and evolutionary by so

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01:56:01.640 --> 01:56:03.239
<v Speaker 2>he got a two year slap on the wrist. He

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01:56:03.359 --> 01:56:06.399
<v Speaker 2>was paid the entire time, and now he's back to

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01:56:06.439 --> 01:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>doing what he was doing beforehand, although allegedly their ped

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01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:16.159
<v Speaker 2>lab aka Eugenics Lab was shut down. Not exactly right now, colleague. Defense,

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<v Speaker 2>Some like Harvard law professor Lawrence Lessig, argued Novak was scapegoaded,

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01:56:21.520 --> 01:56:25.920
<v Speaker 2>claiming the administration encouraged your relationship to secure Epstein's funding.

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01:56:26.359 --> 01:56:28.680
<v Speaker 2>And I would agree with that, especially now that we

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<v Speaker 2>know that Harvard's president was also tied in with Epstein.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a hard time believing that the top brass

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<v Speaker 2>at Harvard actually gave a fuck about this. They wanted

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01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:39.880
<v Speaker 2>that money too.

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<v Speaker 1>I did find something interesting that Jeffrey Epstein makes totally

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<v Speaker 1>from ninety eight to two thousand and seven's nine point

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01:56:48.079 --> 01:56:53.439
<v Speaker 1>one seven pretty much nine point two million dollars he

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01:56:53.520 --> 01:56:54.760
<v Speaker 1>gave Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>But six point one of that was strictly to eugenics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what is Novak's current situation. He has not

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01:57:03.720 --> 01:57:06.479
<v Speaker 2>been accused of any criminal wrongdoing in relation to Epstein.

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01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:10.479
<v Speaker 2>He continues his academic work at Harvard. He's still working there.

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<v Speaker 2>The university has stated that as twenty twenty review and

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<v Speaker 2>subsequent actions concluded its investigation into the matter, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just one of those things, some one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things raven nothing more to see here. So it's also

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<v Speaker 2>worth mentioning as we're talking about evolution and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No Fact and Jeffrey Epstein were obsessed with the concept

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<v Speaker 2>of reverse Darwinism. Does this term ring a bell to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? And also longevity of life he funded so that

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01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>when we talk online this will be a huge talking

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<v Speaker 1>point as well. He was obsessed with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>aspects when it comes to the physical human body and

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<v Speaker 1>what he could do and what limits he could push.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this is definitely on par for him right now,

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<v Speaker 1>very much so.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those that don't know what reverse Darwinism is,

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<v Speaker 2>it is essentially the theory that the more humans rely

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<v Speaker 2>on technology, the weaker we become as a species. And

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<v Speaker 2>we've used this before as an example. Growing up, I knew,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean grants, I was a child, but I could

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<v Speaker 2>instantly tell you probably twenty to thirty phone numbers because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a way of remembering it. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a phone. I didn't have a little phone book

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<v Speaker 2>in my pocket at all times, so I had to

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<v Speaker 2>remember my home number. I needed to remember my mom's

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<v Speaker 2>work number. I needed to remember my mom's cell phone number,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's work number, my dad's selphone number, my school office.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to remember all of these numbers in case

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<v Speaker 2>something happened right now. I couldn't tell you, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>three or four phone numbers. Real shit, because we have

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<v Speaker 2>relied more heavily on our phone book, in our cell

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01:58:58.800 --> 01:59:02.920
<v Speaker 2>phones than our own memory banks for this. And that's

2068
01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a small example. That's a micro example, but let's take

2069
01:59:05.920 --> 01:59:09.880
<v Speaker 2>that to the macro. As much as humans rely on

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<v Speaker 2>air conditioning, the theory as far as reverse Darwinism is

2071
01:59:15.279 --> 01:59:18.199
<v Speaker 2>we will become so bad at regulating our own body

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01:59:18.239 --> 01:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>temperature in nature because we rely too heavily on heating

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01:59:22.319 --> 01:59:25.920
<v Speaker 2>and air conditioning to do so. For us, we rely

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01:59:26.079 --> 01:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>so heavily on filtered water from our refrigerator that our

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01:59:30.079 --> 01:59:33.560
<v Speaker 2>stomach and our gut biome is weakened to where we

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01:59:33.640 --> 01:59:37.439
<v Speaker 2>cannot handle harsher water. It goes to a lot of

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01:59:37.560 --> 01:59:41.159
<v Speaker 2>levels here, But your boy Novak and Epstein were both

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01:59:41.279 --> 01:59:46.079
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with reverse Darwinism, and their intentions as far as

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01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the eugenics conversation was to make the best top tier

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01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:54.920
<v Speaker 2>alpha dynamic human being species they possibly.

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01:59:54.479 --> 01:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Could, yes, yes, as a way to combat.

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01:59:58.680 --> 02:00:01.239
<v Speaker 2>The technology by using the technology. It's very strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of components to his obsession with

2084
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:07.359
<v Speaker 1>different aspects of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize this that Epstein actually got other investors

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<v Speaker 1>to donate almost eight million dollars to this program as well.

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02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But they don't quote they didn't trace it back to

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02:00:21.600 --> 02:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>being with Epstein, but it literally says Epstein's buddies, like

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<v Speaker 1>his friends, were the ones that donated more more to

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02:00:28.319 --> 02:00:29.159
<v Speaker 1>this as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. And especially once again, Jeffrey

2093
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<v Speaker 2>Epstein was the finance guy. He was a money laundering guy,

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02:00:37.560 --> 02:00:42.399
<v Speaker 2>and donating money to academia is a really big write off.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a great way for the rich to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fund something and you know, do some things

2097
02:00:48.279 --> 02:00:50.279
<v Speaker 2>with their money to keep the government off their ass.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I could see him finding a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>people to donate a few dollars here and there towards

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02:00:55.600 --> 02:00:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the cost he believed in, which also helped balance their

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02:00:58.279 --> 02:00:59.960
<v Speaker 2>books a bit. Sure. Why not.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Benedict Gross one of the people that you've heard about.

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<v Speaker 2>The name is familiar, but I don't have him in

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<v Speaker 2>my notes for this episode. Tell me more about this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just one of the individuals that Jeffrey pushed

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<v Speaker 1>forward with Harvard as well to be one of Novak's buddies.

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<v Speaker 1>And his whole thing is what is his is the

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<v Speaker 1>imaginative proposal for the establishment of a program for evolutionary

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics at Harvard. So there is Yeah, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the homies for this. So Novak was the

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02:01:38.600 --> 02:01:42.840
<v Speaker 1>facility's director of the program. But Gross is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that actually pushed forward, one of the individuals along with Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 1>who push forward the imaginative proposal for this program in

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02:01:51.079 --> 02:01:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and of itself. And then obviously the dean of the

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02:01:55.479 --> 02:02:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Facility of Arts and Science, William Kirby at Harvard his

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02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:03.479
<v Speaker 1>inception of two thousand and three, he oversaw the establishment

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire program. He also took a bunch of

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02:02:05.880 --> 02:02:09.760
<v Speaker 1>money from him. Drew Faust was the president of Harvard

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<v Speaker 1>at University in two thousand and eight when Jeffrey was

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02:02:12.760 --> 02:02:16.159
<v Speaker 1>convicted of sex crimes. She made the decision that Harvard

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02:02:16.199 --> 02:02:19.600
<v Speaker 1>no longer could accept direct gifts from Epstein's following his conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they went in a roundabout way to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to give money to at least the program. Still, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of people that were like inherently involved.

2125
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<v Speaker 1>There's a long list, like A. EO. Wilson is a

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<v Speaker 1>prominent biologist and co author of Novak's work, and the

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02:02:39.159 --> 02:02:42.800
<v Speaker 1>controversial paper that they wrote was the Nature paper that

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02:02:43.000 --> 02:02:47.000
<v Speaker 1>argued standard natural selection theory was a simpler and more

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02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:51.479
<v Speaker 1>effective approach to understanding evolution of the I don't know

2130
02:02:51.479 --> 02:02:56.399
<v Speaker 1>how to say this word. It's euso. It's like ESO societal.

2131
02:02:57.399 --> 02:03:00.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a really weird word. That kin selection theory pretty

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02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:03.560
<v Speaker 1>much is what it is, and that's what this whole

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<v Speaker 1>program is based on. Is this theory, this kin selection

2134
02:03:07.319 --> 02:03:10.960
<v Speaker 1>theory too. And so it's it's interesting. There's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people. There's like listed forty people that were all

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02:03:13.239 --> 02:03:17.960
<v Speaker 1>involved throughout the years with this whole program, not including

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02:03:18.039 --> 02:03:20.600
<v Speaker 1>at the same time that this is happening, my boy

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02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:24.680
<v Speaker 1>church is going on as well. So there is multiple

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02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:28.000
<v Speaker 1>programs happening like literally side by side by side at

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02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Harvard that he's funding tons of money into, no doubt. Now,

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02:03:32.840 --> 02:03:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I just want people to understand that one hundred percent with.

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<v Speaker 2>You on this And that's the thing. Of the nine

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02:03:38.079 --> 02:03:40.560
<v Speaker 2>million that he gave, six went to the eugenics There

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02:03:40.640 --> 02:03:43.239
<v Speaker 2>was other programs that were getting that money for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Church is a part of the eugenic program

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02:03:46.239 --> 02:03:49.399
<v Speaker 1>as well. Actually he is the eugenics program.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, oh shit, that's not good.

2148
02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, he is the actual So he is in

2149
02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:03.239
<v Speaker 1>incredibly intelligent but no, yeah, he's and he has severe

2150
02:04:03.279 --> 02:04:06.119
<v Speaker 1>dyslexia too, by the way. And that's just a random

2151
02:04:06.319 --> 02:04:07.039
<v Speaker 1>little tidbit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So and we are going to do

2153
02:04:09.319 --> 02:04:12.800
<v Speaker 2>an entire episode as far as Epstein and eugenics and

2154
02:04:12.840 --> 02:04:15.079
<v Speaker 2>the gene splicing and the chrispers and we're going to

2155
02:04:15.159 --> 02:04:17.279
<v Speaker 2>do that on a on an episode very soon in

2156
02:04:17.319 --> 02:04:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the future. But I didn't want to make the mention

2157
02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:22.520
<v Speaker 2>as far as these these conversations go. I did want

2158
02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:25.279
<v Speaker 2>to get that little bit of a tidbit. But now

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02:04:25.319 --> 02:04:29.880
<v Speaker 2>let's get back to this whole AI conversation. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>earlier we mentioned Facebook. Now you may be wondering, what's

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02:04:34.520 --> 02:04:40.640
<v Speaker 2>the connection to DARPA, Facebook and Jeffrey Epstein. Enter a

2162
02:04:40.760 --> 02:04:44.520
<v Speaker 2>man by the name of John Poindexter. Now I know

2163
02:04:44.600 --> 02:04:47.760
<v Speaker 2>that name. The name is the jokes, right themselves. I

2164
02:04:47.840 --> 02:04:52.359
<v Speaker 2>understand that, But who is John Poindexter laboratory? No, No,

2165
02:04:53.239 --> 02:04:55.680
<v Speaker 2>who is John Poindexter? And why the fuck am I

2166
02:04:55.680 --> 02:04:57.720
<v Speaker 2>bringing him up at this time? So he is a

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02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:01.800
<v Speaker 2>retired United States Naval officer and Department of Defense official.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Deputy National Security Advisor and National Security Advisor

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02:05:06.560 --> 02:05:11.840
<v Speaker 2>during the Reagan administration. He was convicted in April of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety of multiple felonies as a result of his

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02:05:16.000 --> 02:05:20.680
<v Speaker 2>actions in the Iran contra affair. So he's as far

2172
02:05:20.720 --> 02:05:24.439
<v Speaker 2>as like being one of the government's boys, Like he

2173
02:05:24.520 --> 02:05:27.399
<v Speaker 2>absolutely is down to clown when it comes to doing

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02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:30.239
<v Speaker 2>some dirty shit on behalf of Uncle Sam. He's that guy.

2175
02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:33.880
<v Speaker 2>No doubts about this. But anyway, multiple felonies for that,

2176
02:05:34.439 --> 02:05:37.920
<v Speaker 2>but they were reversed on an appeal in nineteen ninety one.

2177
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<v Speaker 2>Crazy how that works out. During the George W. Bush administration,

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<v Speaker 2>he served a brief stint as the director of the

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02:05:46.279 --> 02:05:50.680
<v Speaker 2>DARPA Information Awareness Office. He is the father of a

2180
02:05:50.760 --> 02:05:56.720
<v Speaker 2>NASA astronaut and US Naval Captain, Alan G. Poindexter. Now,

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02:05:57.039 --> 02:06:00.319
<v Speaker 2>before I tell y'all the connection as far as as

2182
02:06:00.680 --> 02:06:04.840
<v Speaker 2>John Poindexter and all these things go, I feel like

2183
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<v Speaker 2>this is important. He served a brief stint as the

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02:06:08.159 --> 02:06:13.439
<v Speaker 2>director of the DARPA Information Awareness Office Ravenly have you

2185
02:06:13.439 --> 02:06:14.039
<v Speaker 2>ever heard of this?

2186
02:06:16.600 --> 02:06:17.359
<v Speaker 1>No?

2187
02:06:17.359 --> 02:06:21.680
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm gonna click on this link actually and show

2188
02:06:21.760 --> 02:06:26.720
<v Speaker 2>you the logo for the Information Awareness Office of DARPA.

2189
02:06:27.319 --> 02:06:29.520
<v Speaker 2>And I would love to hear what your two cents

2190
02:06:29.560 --> 02:06:34.560
<v Speaker 2>are on this one. Oh, that's not the one you're ready.

2191
02:06:35.520 --> 02:06:36.479
<v Speaker 2>That's their logo.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's all seen I like. Of course, it

2193
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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be anything else that's staring over the entire earth.

2194
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<v Speaker 2>For anybody who is just listening and not watching and

2195
02:06:47.520 --> 02:06:49.920
<v Speaker 2>seeing what we're talking about. First of all, you need

2196
02:06:49.960 --> 02:06:52.560
<v Speaker 2>to be a Patreon to see this ship for yourself, Okay,

2197
02:06:53.159 --> 02:06:55.640
<v Speaker 2>but I'll do my best to describe it, and also

2198
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<v Speaker 2>please look it up Information Awareness Office, DARPA Total Wikipedia page.

2199
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<v Speaker 2>Just take two seconds. It's worth a Google. This is

2200
02:07:04.720 --> 02:07:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the globe being oversaw like a spotlight from the eye

2201
02:07:09.880 --> 02:07:13.520
<v Speaker 2>of Providence over an unfinished pyramid. You know what that is,

2202
02:07:13.600 --> 02:07:17.279
<v Speaker 2>right now? That's the Masonic logos, one hundred percent true.

2203
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<v Speaker 1>But I'll give you a hint, and it has to

2204
02:07:19.399 --> 02:07:20.800
<v Speaker 1>do with Lord of the Rings.

2205
02:07:20.880 --> 02:07:21.840
<v Speaker 2>The Eye of Sauron.

2206
02:07:22.760 --> 02:07:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm literally exactly how it looks over and scans

2207
02:07:27.800 --> 02:07:31.640
<v Speaker 1>is like, you couldn't make this more identical, but it's

2208
02:07:31.680 --> 02:07:34.359
<v Speaker 1>just you know why, it's a nerd. I'm also a nerd,

2209
02:07:34.399 --> 02:07:35.800
<v Speaker 1>but like that's just me. So.

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<v Speaker 2>The Information Awareness Office was established by the United States

2211
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<v Speaker 2>DARPA in January two thousand and two to bring together

2212
02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:47.279
<v Speaker 2>several DARPA projects focused on applying surveillance and information technology

2213
02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:51.960
<v Speaker 2>to track and monitor terrorists and other asymmetric threats to

2214
02:07:52.079 --> 02:07:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the US national security by achieving total information awareness. It

2215
02:07:57.880 --> 02:08:02.399
<v Speaker 2>was achieved by creating enormous compew to database computer databases

2216
02:08:02.640 --> 02:08:05.760
<v Speaker 2>to gather and store the personal information of everyone in

2217
02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:10.439
<v Speaker 2>the United States, including personal emails, social networks, credit card reports,

2218
02:08:10.479 --> 02:08:16.119
<v Speaker 2>phone calls, medical records, and numerous other sources without any requirement.

2219
02:08:15.520 --> 02:08:17.199
<v Speaker 1>For a search warrant.

2220
02:08:17.680 --> 02:08:20.720
<v Speaker 2>No search warrant needed to just get all of this

2221
02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:26.119
<v Speaker 2>information on everybody, not some people, everyone. The information was

2222
02:08:26.159 --> 02:08:30.880
<v Speaker 2>then analyzed for suspicious activities, connections between individuals, and quote

2223
02:08:30.960 --> 02:08:36.119
<v Speaker 2>unquote threats. The program also included funding for biometric surveillance

2224
02:08:36.159 --> 02:08:39.800
<v Speaker 2>technologies that could identify and track individuals using surveillance cameras

2225
02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:46.760
<v Speaker 2>and other methods. So this guy John Poindexter was briefly

2226
02:08:46.920 --> 02:08:51.239
<v Speaker 2>in charge of this group for DARPA.

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02:08:51.359 --> 02:08:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Now that's not weird, not what, not even a little

2228
02:08:55.439 --> 02:08:59.279
<v Speaker 1>bit here, not even strange at all. So let's talk

2229
02:08:59.319 --> 02:09:00.319
<v Speaker 1>about your boy here.

2230
02:09:00.359 --> 02:09:03.520
<v Speaker 2>So Poindexter met with Peter Teel in two thousand and

2231
02:09:03.520 --> 02:09:11.079
<v Speaker 2>four and purposed using palent here to catch terrorists quote unquote.

2232
02:09:11.359 --> 02:09:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm being very quote unquote about this because keep

2233
02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:18.359
<v Speaker 2>in mind, right after the Patriot Act was released and

2234
02:09:18.439 --> 02:09:21.079
<v Speaker 2>we understood the government was listening to anybody that they

2235
02:09:21.199 --> 02:09:26.319
<v Speaker 2>deemed a threat, who they deemed terrorists, was the terms

2236
02:09:26.319 --> 02:09:30.520
<v Speaker 2>and conditions got a little loosey goosey on these details, obviously.

2237
02:09:30.920 --> 02:09:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you could you could deem anybody a terrorist.

2238
02:09:33.520 --> 02:09:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Any kind of language against the government or whatever it

2239
02:09:36.560 --> 02:09:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is that you're doing can be deemed a terrorist thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, you're absolutely Mom and Paul down the

2241
02:09:42.720 --> 02:09:45.199
<v Speaker 1>street having a cup of coffee and talking about how

2242
02:09:45.479 --> 02:09:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the governments ran by these satanic pedophiles. Technically you're you're

2243
02:09:49.880 --> 02:09:53.640
<v Speaker 1>speaking ill against the you know, the entire government body,

2244
02:09:53.720 --> 02:09:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's terroristic activity. Absolutely, absolutely so everybody can get

2245
02:09:59.399 --> 02:10:00.279
<v Speaker 1>arrested this point.

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02:10:01.000 --> 02:10:05.479
<v Speaker 2>So essentially they were doing this to catch terrorists by

2247
02:10:05.640 --> 02:10:11.760
<v Speaker 2>data mining for fraud detention opera or detection operations. Let

2248
02:10:11.760 --> 02:10:15.760
<v Speaker 2>me break this down. Poindexter in two thousand and four

2249
02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:20.520
<v Speaker 2>got with Peter Thiele to use Palenteer to track people's

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02:10:20.640 --> 02:10:26.479
<v Speaker 2>financial statements to see if somebody was making purchases of

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02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:31.000
<v Speaker 2>certain items that could possibly be listed as terroristic. And

2252
02:10:31.039 --> 02:10:32.960
<v Speaker 2>he said that he was doing this to find sleeper

2253
02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:36.880
<v Speaker 2>sell activities, right, because I mean, it doesn't take much

2254
02:10:37.319 --> 02:10:41.079
<v Speaker 2>information to learn that you can make some very sophisticated

2255
02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:47.479
<v Speaker 2>explosives with some very easily acquireable materials, right, And most

2256
02:10:47.520 --> 02:10:49.560
<v Speaker 2>of these things you could just buy online, or you

2257
02:10:49.560 --> 02:10:51.239
<v Speaker 2>could just go to your local hardware store and if

2258
02:10:51.279 --> 02:10:53.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what you're looking for, you can buy bolt

2259
02:10:53.720 --> 02:10:56.520
<v Speaker 2>quantities and all these things. But if you're paying with

2260
02:10:56.600 --> 02:10:58.520
<v Speaker 2>cash and you're spacing out for a couple stores, whatever

2261
02:10:58.520 --> 02:11:01.640
<v Speaker 2>the case is. But they where he wanted to use

2262
02:11:01.720 --> 02:11:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Pallenteer to track people's spending to see which things would

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02:11:06.239 --> 02:11:08.359
<v Speaker 2>be a red flag, and he said that he was

2264
02:11:08.399 --> 02:11:12.199
<v Speaker 2>doing this to look for terrorists. And they use the

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<v Speaker 2>Patriot Act to justify these actions. To this day, the

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<v Speaker 2>CIA says that the number one source of information that

2267
02:11:20.079 --> 02:11:27.600
<v Speaker 2>they use on American public comes from apps like Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, LinkedIn, PayPal,

2268
02:11:28.039 --> 02:11:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and now TikTok. The CIA openly admits this is it

2269
02:11:34.079 --> 02:11:36.199
<v Speaker 2>in like some sort of a crazy, underhanded secret.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think anybody cares though. That's the thing,

2271
02:11:41.079 --> 02:11:43.520
<v Speaker 1>because if you don't use all of these scenes, it's

2272
02:11:43.600 --> 02:11:49.399
<v Speaker 1>quite difficult to function in our world now. Truth truth,

2273
02:11:49.479 --> 02:11:52.680
<v Speaker 1>So I mean they've made it. They've made it to

2274
02:11:52.760 --> 02:11:56.840
<v Speaker 1>where not only is it socially frowned upon because people

2275
02:11:56.880 --> 02:11:58.600
<v Speaker 1>look at you like you're strange if you don't have

2276
02:11:58.640 --> 02:12:02.479
<v Speaker 1>these things, but but also you have a hard time

2277
02:12:02.640 --> 02:12:07.800
<v Speaker 1>staying connected. Like for example, kids as schools, they put

2278
02:12:07.880 --> 02:12:11.800
<v Speaker 1>up all the information for what's happening on the Facebook page.

2279
02:12:12.119 --> 02:12:14.880
<v Speaker 1>They put up the letter for the week, they put

2280
02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:17.239
<v Speaker 1>up if there's gonna be any changes that are happening,

2281
02:12:17.239 --> 02:12:19.199
<v Speaker 1>they put up, the bus schedule they put up there.

2282
02:12:19.600 --> 02:12:23.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, if they have pbis, wearing special things. They

2283
02:12:23.119 --> 02:12:26.520
<v Speaker 1>put up all of this stuff on Facebook. They don't

2284
02:12:26.560 --> 02:12:29.399
<v Speaker 1>send letters home anymore like they used to. They used

2285
02:12:29.439 --> 02:12:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to print stuff out and then they would send it home,

2286
02:12:31.800 --> 02:12:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and now they don't do that, so they put it

2287
02:12:34.000 --> 02:12:35.960
<v Speaker 1>on the Facebook. So if you don't have Facebook, then

2288
02:12:35.960 --> 02:12:39.079
<v Speaker 1>you're not connected to your kids' school exactly. Also same

2289
02:12:39.159 --> 02:12:42.039
<v Speaker 1>with sports. Now you can't just go to the websites.

2290
02:12:42.199 --> 02:12:44.399
<v Speaker 1>They have websites up, but you won't know when the

2291
02:12:44.439 --> 02:12:47.560
<v Speaker 1>registration is because they only put it on Facebook. Or

2292
02:12:47.600 --> 02:12:50.199
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing for example, like Marti gross stuff, you

2293
02:12:50.319 --> 02:12:52.800
<v Speaker 1>had like to find all the lists, you need to

2294
02:12:52.800 --> 02:12:54.920
<v Speaker 1>have a Facebook. So they've made it to where now

2295
02:12:54.960 --> 02:12:58.840
<v Speaker 1>we're reliant upon these things, yes, especially the transactional things.

2296
02:12:58.880 --> 02:13:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like, well, what's your LinkedIn profile? You know, you

2297
02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:04.800
<v Speaker 1>can't apply for jobs without this Lincoln profile or indeed

2298
02:13:04.880 --> 02:13:08.520
<v Speaker 1>or this or that or this, and also it h

2299
02:13:08.600 --> 02:13:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the financial thing is a whole big thing in and

2300
02:13:10.640 --> 02:13:13.439
<v Speaker 1>of itself. Hell, you can't even hardly pay rent unless

2301
02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:18.159
<v Speaker 1>you use Zell or mainly Zel but you know whatever, Zell,

2302
02:13:18.399 --> 02:13:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Venmo all this stuff. You can't buy goods, you can't

2303
02:13:20.960 --> 02:13:23.479
<v Speaker 1>go to farmer's markets. You know, they don't really take

2304
02:13:23.560 --> 02:13:27.560
<v Speaker 1>cash a lot of places anymore. So it's smart, it's

2305
02:13:27.600 --> 02:13:29.000
<v Speaker 1>really ingenious. I'll give them that.

2306
02:13:29.399 --> 02:13:34.720
<v Speaker 2>And to further that ingenuity right later on LinkedIn co

2307
02:13:34.800 --> 02:13:39.079
<v Speaker 2>founder Reid Hoffman Heild at dinner where Musk Teal Zuck

2308
02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein, all the top shtheads got together and they

2309
02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:48.640
<v Speaker 2>decided that cryptocurrency was going to be the way of

2310
02:13:48.680 --> 02:13:51.439
<v Speaker 2>the future. And we talked about that in a form

2311
02:13:51.520 --> 02:13:56.279
<v Speaker 2>of episode not too long ago. Cryptocurrency is the brain

2312
02:13:56.439 --> 02:14:01.520
<v Speaker 2>child of these shitheads, including Jeffrey Epstein, and all of

2313
02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:03.560
<v Speaker 2>it was to send mass amounts of money from point

2314
02:14:03.600 --> 02:14:06.079
<v Speaker 2>A to point B and let it not be tracked

2315
02:14:06.119 --> 02:14:10.319
<v Speaker 2>by anybody. Okay, now, remember we talked about that guy,

2316
02:14:10.359 --> 02:14:13.039
<v Speaker 2>I forget his name, Dan something, who was talking about

2317
02:14:13.119 --> 02:14:16.119
<v Speaker 2>how if you knew who owned crypto or who owned bitcoin,

2318
02:14:16.239 --> 02:14:17.520
<v Speaker 2>it would plummet.

2319
02:14:17.159 --> 02:14:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh, the white guy with a nice suit.

2320
02:14:20.159 --> 02:14:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah too. As of time of recording, Bitcoin recently dropped

2321
02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:29.239
<v Speaker 2>five percent in two hours. It dropped twenty eight percent

2322
02:14:29.479 --> 02:14:33.720
<v Speaker 2>in the past month. It has dropped forty four percent

2323
02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:36.960
<v Speaker 2>in the last six months. It is on the decline

2324
02:14:37.239 --> 02:14:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and it is not slowing down. If anything, it's it's

2325
02:14:40.119 --> 02:14:41.920
<v Speaker 2>exponentially getting faster.

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02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Good. I agree.

2327
02:14:44.960 --> 02:14:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Good.

2328
02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I personally don't think that we should be moving towards

2329
02:14:47.720 --> 02:14:52.399
<v Speaker 1>digital currency. I think that once that happens, we are

2330
02:14:52.439 --> 02:14:56.640
<v Speaker 1>all screwed big time, right, because then then they can

2331
02:14:56.760 --> 02:14:58.920
<v Speaker 1>just they can just shut everything off. That was a

2332
02:14:58.920 --> 02:15:03.000
<v Speaker 1>big thing. If anybody be remembers with the Canadians doing

2333
02:15:03.039 --> 02:15:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the the truckers driving across and protesting and stuff, they

2334
02:15:06.279 --> 02:15:09.199
<v Speaker 1>were like holding up their bank accounts yep, and things

2335
02:15:09.239 --> 02:15:12.199
<v Speaker 1>like that. So I mean, you know that they're going

2336
02:15:12.239 --> 02:15:14.239
<v Speaker 1>to do this. It's not a hidden thing. So if

2337
02:15:14.239 --> 02:15:18.079
<v Speaker 1>they push forward, especially how England is like hell bent

2338
02:15:18.359 --> 02:15:23.119
<v Speaker 1>on pushing this into fruition but pretty much happening, then

2339
02:15:23.399 --> 02:15:25.680
<v Speaker 1>we know this is probably something we shouldn't be doing.

2340
02:15:25.720 --> 02:15:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that all these shitheads are the ones

2341
02:15:28.640 --> 02:15:33.359
<v Speaker 1>that invented it. Plus you know Fink is Elon's like home,

2342
02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:35.479
<v Speaker 1>me home. I mean, they were just they were just

2343
02:15:35.479 --> 02:15:38.000
<v Speaker 1>sitting at the World Economic Forum joking around back and

2344
02:15:38.039 --> 02:15:41.039
<v Speaker 1>forth with each other about how much of what is

2345
02:15:42.239 --> 02:15:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not oh yeah, it's not even just that,

2346
02:15:45.000 --> 02:15:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but like they were just joking around with each other,

2347
02:15:47.079 --> 02:15:51.960
<v Speaker 1>like if people can't simply draw the connections themselves, Like

2348
02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I understand listening to people that are involved in conspiracy theories,

2349
02:15:55.960 --> 02:15:59.359
<v Speaker 1>you think they're crazy, but you could literally just look

2350
02:15:59.359 --> 02:16:01.960
<v Speaker 1>at this you're self and really be like, you know,

2351
02:16:02.760 --> 02:16:06.359
<v Speaker 1>they sure all seem pretty chummy together. The money all

2352
02:16:06.399 --> 02:16:09.159
<v Speaker 1>seems to trail back and forth between each other. Epstein

2353
02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:11.319
<v Speaker 1>seems to be the center person of all of this.

2354
02:16:12.239 --> 02:16:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Maybe what they're pushing forward is not a positive thing

2355
02:16:16.600 --> 02:16:17.399
<v Speaker 1>for humanity.

2356
02:16:17.720 --> 02:16:22.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad once again we have been vindicated. The conspiracy

2357
02:16:22.479 --> 02:16:25.399
<v Speaker 2>community has been vindicated.

2358
02:16:25.640 --> 02:16:30.159
<v Speaker 1>And I can't on the deaths of millions or thousands, probably, but.

2359
02:16:30.399 --> 02:16:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I understand that I'm not happy that we were right

2360
02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:37.399
<v Speaker 2>about these things. But also we have been saying it

2361
02:16:37.479 --> 02:16:40.680
<v Speaker 2>for years, even before the cult of conspiracy was a thing.

2362
02:16:41.120 --> 02:16:43.319
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not talking about just Jacob. I'm not talking

2363
02:16:43.319 --> 02:16:45.479
<v Speaker 2>about just Raven, I'm not talking about Jonathan. I'm talking

2364
02:16:45.520 --> 02:16:49.799
<v Speaker 2>about people who have been looking into conspiracies for years

2365
02:16:49.840 --> 02:16:52.399
<v Speaker 2>and years and years, have been trying to get this

2366
02:16:52.559 --> 02:16:56.639
<v Speaker 2>word out. And now so many people are like, yo,

2367
02:16:56.719 --> 02:16:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll be real with y'all. I think we owe the

2368
02:16:58.760 --> 02:17:03.159
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorist in a Poulo because they were right about

2369
02:17:03.239 --> 02:17:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like everything, there's tons of not just comedians, not just

2370
02:17:07.079 --> 02:17:12.200
<v Speaker 2>TV personalities, all these things. They're like, Okay, you know,

2371
02:17:13.360 --> 02:17:17.319
<v Speaker 2>perhaps we should be listening to a whit conspiracy theories

2372
02:17:17.559 --> 02:17:21.159
<v Speaker 2>a little bit seriously, because like, yeah, no shit, sharelock.

2373
02:17:21.200 --> 02:17:22.120
<v Speaker 2>We've been saying it forever.

2374
02:17:23.680 --> 02:17:27.239
<v Speaker 1>The problem is a conveniency aspect that they have created

2375
02:17:27.280 --> 02:17:32.559
<v Speaker 1>with AI and the need for the technology in a

2376
02:17:32.680 --> 02:17:37.239
<v Speaker 1>world where technology is so prevalent, it's making it challenging

2377
02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:40.159
<v Speaker 1>for people to actually stand up and also break the

2378
02:17:40.200 --> 02:17:44.040
<v Speaker 1>cycle of conveniency. That's the problem. So they know now

2379
02:17:44.200 --> 02:17:48.040
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. Wayfair never went out of business. No,

2380
02:17:48.440 --> 02:17:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Wayfair never went out of business. Like, let's really just

2381
02:17:51.200 --> 02:17:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like reiterate this. We all know that Wayfair was selling children. Yeah,

2382
02:17:56.319 --> 02:17:59.680
<v Speaker 1>children that were taken, missing children that were taken, proven

2383
02:17:59.719 --> 02:18:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that they were. Wayfair never stopped selling Etsy proven to

2384
02:18:04.079 --> 02:18:09.639
<v Speaker 1>be selling children as paintings and has never let up once. Never,

2385
02:18:09.799 --> 02:18:12.879
<v Speaker 1>people have not stopped buying from Etsy. You're creating Etsy

2386
02:18:12.959 --> 02:18:13.719
<v Speaker 1>shops at all.

2387
02:18:13.760 --> 02:18:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Course, Pizzagate has now been confirmed to be a real thing.

2388
02:18:18.639 --> 02:18:22.879
<v Speaker 2>For the past I would say maybe ten years that

2389
02:18:23.120 --> 02:18:25.680
<v Speaker 2>was laughed at. Oh you mean that whole Pizzagate thing,

2390
02:18:25.760 --> 02:18:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, No, no, no, the fucking Pizzagate thing. Dog,

2391
02:18:30.319 --> 02:18:34.399
<v Speaker 2>that's a real thing. Everybody laughed, They made jokes about it,

2392
02:18:34.440 --> 02:18:36.879
<v Speaker 2>they blasted on the on the news and all these things.

2393
02:18:36.920 --> 02:18:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh so you're one of those q tarts. Oh

2394
02:18:39.200 --> 02:18:42.479
<v Speaker 2>you're one of those Pizzagate believers. It's like Yeah, you're

2395
02:18:42.680 --> 02:18:46.440
<v Speaker 2>underplaying something very very serious the same way they underplayed wayfair.

2396
02:18:47.360 --> 02:18:50.120
<v Speaker 2>The common pizza joint, if I'm not mistaken, is still.

2397
02:18:49.879 --> 02:18:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Open own by the same I would even doubt it.

2398
02:18:53.319 --> 02:18:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even though it's now been confirmed.

2399
02:18:57.959 --> 02:19:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Pessa has a fucking video of him or sturing a

2400
02:19:00.680 --> 02:19:03.360
<v Speaker 1>child and he's not arrested and put in jail.

2401
02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:05.680
<v Speaker 2>John say, and I pulled that up on an episode

2402
02:19:05.879 --> 02:19:07.879
<v Speaker 2>years ago. But like, that's a real thing.

2403
02:19:08.559 --> 02:19:11.959
<v Speaker 1>It's a real video. It's circulating, it's making its rounds

2404
02:19:11.959 --> 02:19:15.159
<v Speaker 1>again right now because the Clintons are obviously are supposed

2405
02:19:15.159 --> 02:19:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to testify and all this stuff. So okay, so you

2406
02:19:18.360 --> 02:19:22.079
<v Speaker 1>have actual proof, and yet this person has been walking

2407
02:19:22.120 --> 02:19:24.399
<v Speaker 1>for you this whole time. I don't know what it's

2408
02:19:24.399 --> 02:19:28.360
<v Speaker 1>going to take for people to understand that, Like maybe

2409
02:19:28.799 --> 02:19:32.159
<v Speaker 1>we really should be opening our eyes up to what

2410
02:19:32.440 --> 02:19:35.680
<v Speaker 1>is the actual narratives and what have they been working

2411
02:19:35.719 --> 02:19:39.319
<v Speaker 1>on all this time. That's what's the scary part, is

2412
02:19:39.360 --> 02:19:41.879
<v Speaker 1>what they've been working on and how successful they have

2413
02:19:42.040 --> 02:19:45.360
<v Speaker 1>been in the background while we have continued to be

2414
02:19:45.440 --> 02:19:48.600
<v Speaker 1>little worker bees and working and just trying to survive.

2415
02:19:48.959 --> 02:19:51.559
<v Speaker 2>The scary part is that they have had whistleblowers come

2416
02:19:51.600 --> 02:19:55.440
<v Speaker 2>forward and talk about this raven cut to Edward Snowden

2417
02:19:56.159 --> 02:19:58.000
<v Speaker 2>warned us that these things were going on.

2418
02:19:58.200 --> 02:19:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he got slayed.

2419
02:20:00.159 --> 02:20:03.399
<v Speaker 2>He's still living in Russia for fear of his life.

2420
02:20:03.840 --> 02:20:06.959
<v Speaker 2>Because even though even now, even now, as we are

2421
02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:11.639
<v Speaker 2>talking about the Epstein connections, the Bitcoin connections, eugenics connections,

2422
02:20:11.719 --> 02:20:15.520
<v Speaker 2>AI connections, the whole ring of pedophiles, all of this,

2423
02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the spying on us. They have been using Facebook, PayPal,

2424
02:20:20.000 --> 02:20:24.479
<v Speaker 2>everything to spy on the American people. Four years Snowden

2425
02:20:24.520 --> 02:20:28.120
<v Speaker 2>blew the whistle on this and was ousted, and still

2426
02:20:28.159 --> 02:20:30.319
<v Speaker 2>to this day, the government will not allow him to

2427
02:20:30.360 --> 02:20:32.360
<v Speaker 2>come back home, even though like, oh, we'll totally take

2428
02:20:32.360 --> 02:20:34.239
<v Speaker 2>you back home. He's like, yeah, you can get fucked

2429
02:20:34.239 --> 02:20:36.520
<v Speaker 2>because I guarantee I'm going to be found dead somewhere.

2430
02:20:36.920 --> 02:20:41.120
<v Speaker 2>So let's read about that. Right, So, the NSA continues

2431
02:20:41.200 --> 02:20:45.479
<v Speaker 2>to violate American's Internet privacy rights. This was written in

2432
02:20:45.520 --> 02:20:50.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, but again, this all ties back to Epstein.

2433
02:20:51.440 --> 02:20:53.879
<v Speaker 2>All of this ties back to Epstein. Let's get into

2434
02:20:53.920 --> 02:20:57.239
<v Speaker 2>it here. So a federal court will be scrutinizing one

2435
02:20:57.319 --> 02:21:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of the National Security Agency's worst spying program on Monday.

2436
02:21:01.479 --> 02:21:04.600
<v Speaker 2>The case has the potential to restore crucial privacy protections

2437
02:21:04.600 --> 02:21:06.760
<v Speaker 2>for the millions of Americans who use the Internet to

2438
02:21:06.799 --> 02:21:11.159
<v Speaker 2>communicate with friends, family, and others overseas. Yeah, Unfortunately that

2439
02:21:11.159 --> 02:21:14.799
<v Speaker 2>didn't happen, right because Edward Snowden was telling everybody about PRISM.

2440
02:21:15.159 --> 02:21:20.280
<v Speaker 2>The unconstitutional surveillance program at issue is called PRISM, under

2441
02:21:20.319 --> 02:21:24.840
<v Speaker 2>which the NSA, FBI, and CIA gather and search through

2442
02:21:24.879 --> 02:21:31.959
<v Speaker 2>Americans international emails, internet calls, and chats without obtaining a warrant.

2443
02:21:32.239 --> 02:21:35.600
<v Speaker 2>When Edward Snowden blew the whistle on PRISM in twenty thirteen,

2444
02:21:36.440 --> 02:21:44.159
<v Speaker 2>the program included at least nine major Internet companies, including Facebook, Google, Apple,

2445
02:21:44.479 --> 02:21:48.479
<v Speaker 2>and Skype. So once again the connections. As far as

2446
02:21:48.479 --> 02:21:53.040
<v Speaker 2>how Facebook got started based off of a ADARPA program

2447
02:21:53.120 --> 02:21:57.440
<v Speaker 2>to spyle on the American people, this was proven in

2448
02:21:57.520 --> 02:22:01.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen. They were using PRISM to do it. Nobody

2449
02:22:01.920 --> 02:22:05.639
<v Speaker 2>paid attention, nobody cared. Today it is very likely that

2450
02:22:05.840 --> 02:22:10.079
<v Speaker 2>includes an even broader set of companies. So the government

2451
02:22:10.120 --> 02:22:13.280
<v Speaker 2>insists that it uses this program to target foreigners, but

2452
02:22:13.360 --> 02:22:17.159
<v Speaker 2>that's only half the picture. In reality, it uses PRISM

2453
02:22:17.280 --> 02:22:22.159
<v Speaker 2>as a backdoor into americans private communications, violating the Fourth

2454
02:22:22.200 --> 02:22:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Amendment on a massive scale. We don't know the total

2455
02:22:25.000 --> 02:22:27.799
<v Speaker 2>number of Americans affected even today because the government has

2456
02:22:27.840 --> 02:22:32.639
<v Speaker 2>refused to provide any estimate. This type of unjustifiable secrecy

2457
02:22:32.719 --> 02:22:35.719
<v Speaker 2>has also helped the program eve a public judicial review

2458
02:22:36.040 --> 02:22:39.360
<v Speaker 2>of its legality because the government also are excuse me,

2459
02:22:39.479 --> 02:22:42.399
<v Speaker 2>almost never tells the people that it's spied on them

2460
02:22:42.440 --> 02:22:45.719
<v Speaker 2>without a warrant. Indeed, the government has a track record

2461
02:22:45.719 --> 02:22:48.559
<v Speaker 2>of failing to tell Americans about this spying, even when

2462
02:22:48.600 --> 02:22:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the person in charged or is charged with a crime

2463
02:22:51.319 --> 02:22:54.479
<v Speaker 2>based on the surveillance. That's one reason why this case

2464
02:22:54.520 --> 02:22:57.120
<v Speaker 2>is so important. This time the government has admitted to

2465
02:22:57.159 --> 02:23:00.239
<v Speaker 2>the spine and that's the thing, this absolutely thing. So

2466
02:23:00.280 --> 02:23:04.799
<v Speaker 2>we talked about this before too near us, just one

2467
02:23:04.840 --> 02:23:08.559
<v Speaker 2>parish over, there was a police officer, his wife was

2468
02:23:08.559 --> 02:23:11.799
<v Speaker 2>a teacher out of high school. They were doing horrible

2469
02:23:11.840 --> 02:23:14.879
<v Speaker 2>shit to children and they were making like he was

2470
02:23:15.040 --> 02:23:17.799
<v Speaker 2>coming into cupcake batter and his wife was making these

2471
02:23:17.799 --> 02:23:19.719
<v Speaker 2>cupcakes and bringing it to these kids and all this

2472
02:23:19.840 --> 02:23:22.239
<v Speaker 2>for years and years and years. There was pictures. There

2473
02:23:22.239 --> 02:23:24.000
<v Speaker 2>was abuse that was happening to these kids. They were

2474
02:23:24.000 --> 02:23:27.159
<v Speaker 2>bringing home these high school girls and doing unspeakable shit

2475
02:23:27.200 --> 02:23:32.239
<v Speaker 2>to them. They also were producing child porn and distributing it.

2476
02:23:32.319 --> 02:23:38.440
<v Speaker 2>All this they were caught from spying from the Patriot Act.

2477
02:23:39.360 --> 02:23:43.200
<v Speaker 2>So like that is a case where this was absolutely

2478
02:23:43.239 --> 02:23:46.479
<v Speaker 2>being used for a good purpose. But that's the one

2479
02:23:46.479 --> 02:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>in a million. The reality of it is that this

2480
02:23:50.200 --> 02:23:54.639
<v Speaker 2>was being done by the pedophilic elite to the American public,

2481
02:23:55.000 --> 02:23:56.399
<v Speaker 2>and every now and then they had to throw the

2482
02:23:56.399 --> 02:23:59.479
<v Speaker 2>American public a bone. But even when they were under

2483
02:23:59.879 --> 02:24:03.799
<v Speaker 2>a being tried, they said that this was obtained through surveillance.

2484
02:24:04.319 --> 02:24:07.239
<v Speaker 2>They never actually admitted that it was through the Patriot Act,

2485
02:24:07.280 --> 02:24:09.520
<v Speaker 2>even though that's clearly what it was. If it walks

2486
02:24:09.559 --> 02:24:12.920
<v Speaker 2>like a duck and quacks like a duck, but either

2487
02:24:12.959 --> 02:24:15.319
<v Speaker 2>way it goes. They just say that they found this

2488
02:24:15.520 --> 02:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>on them, and here we go. They never expressly said

2489
02:24:19.000 --> 02:24:22.879
<v Speaker 2>that it was from government surveillance like that. They waited too,

2490
02:24:23.120 --> 02:24:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes they did, Yes, they waited.

2491
02:24:26.479 --> 02:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>They had because they had gotten a tip and they

2492
02:24:31.680 --> 02:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and she is the reasons why she is the actual

2493
02:24:35.079 --> 02:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>reason why nobody in this state can bring any food

2494
02:24:39.959 --> 02:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>from outside that's not completely sealed to anything at all

2495
02:24:45.959 --> 02:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to the school because of her. Yep, and it's it's

2496
02:24:50.479 --> 02:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>really the whole story is horrific. And the child porn

2497
02:24:54.079 --> 02:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that they were creating and all this stuff, like they

2498
02:24:57.319 --> 02:24:59.959
<v Speaker 1>waited and he was that and other people in the

2499
02:25:00.120 --> 02:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>department had heard rumors about him, but they didn't come

2500
02:25:03.719 --> 02:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>forward with anything as well. So the surveillance, you can't

2501
02:25:07.719 --> 02:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because they have triggers in set set in to people

2502
02:25:12.040 --> 02:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>looking up child porn, you get flagged. Yep, Like in

2503
02:25:15.879 --> 02:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>the systems, you're being monitored. Everything is being monitored. You

2504
02:25:19.520 --> 02:25:23.319
<v Speaker 1>can't tell me that people are just happily watching child

2505
02:25:23.399 --> 02:25:26.239
<v Speaker 1>porn or creating it and then uploading it to the

2506
02:25:26.319 --> 02:25:31.079
<v Speaker 1>dark web, and they're not being flagged right away, like

2507
02:25:31.280 --> 02:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>you're as soon as you even distribute though or watch

2508
02:25:35.360 --> 02:25:38.120
<v Speaker 1>like intake it. You should be getting charged instead of

2509
02:25:38.159 --> 02:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>just sitting on these people for months and months and

2510
02:25:40.440 --> 02:25:44.120
<v Speaker 1>months or years on end while you can see them

2511
02:25:44.159 --> 02:25:48.360
<v Speaker 1>abusing people, abusing children, and then like you're just building

2512
02:25:48.399 --> 02:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a stronger case. No, you should be one and done.

2513
02:25:51.200 --> 02:25:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there should.

2514
02:25:52.959 --> 02:25:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Be no building a case. Apparently there's another lady that

2515
02:25:56.440 --> 02:25:59.799
<v Speaker 1>just was charged last week for horrific and it's the

2516
02:26:00.079 --> 02:26:06.120
<v Speaker 1>terms are horrific child pornography. And according to the news,

2517
02:26:06.719 --> 02:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>they had information for like over a year that potentially

2518
02:26:10.239 --> 02:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>she was creating this stuff and it's like, wait, so

2519
02:26:13.159 --> 02:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you sat around a year while children were being horrifically

2520
02:26:16.799 --> 02:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>abused for what purpose? Now if this isn't like I

2521
02:26:21.280 --> 02:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>understand being able to use this in a sense of

2522
02:26:24.360 --> 02:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>certain things. The problem is is there's no ethical boundaries

2523
02:26:28.959 --> 02:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the Patriot Act. Who is enforcing

2524
02:26:33.760 --> 02:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>enforcing ethics when there is no there no no one's

2525
02:26:39.479 --> 02:26:43.959
<v Speaker 1>check and balancing it. It's just we own this technology,

2526
02:26:44.040 --> 02:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna use it how we see fit. No one's

2527
02:26:47.040 --> 02:26:51.719
<v Speaker 1>holding any ethics to this. There's no framework when it

2528
02:26:51.799 --> 02:26:54.719
<v Speaker 1>comes to oh, you know, it's there's a loose framework,

2529
02:26:54.760 --> 02:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>but no one is actually checking and balancing the government

2530
02:26:57.959 --> 02:27:02.799
<v Speaker 1>and ensuring the safety and privatecy of the citizens. Because hell,

2531
02:27:03.319 --> 02:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>most of the people don't even know that their shit's

2532
02:27:05.680 --> 02:27:09.239
<v Speaker 1>like it's like a long standing joke at this point, like, oh,

2533
02:27:09.280 --> 02:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>if you talk next to your phone, your phone's gonna

2534
02:27:11.159 --> 02:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>pick up your shit. Ha ha ha though, but it is real.

2535
02:27:15.600 --> 02:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>But like it's a long standing joke though now throughout

2536
02:27:18.760 --> 02:27:21.079
<v Speaker 1>America that we all know that is going to do this,

2537
02:27:21.680 --> 02:27:26.959
<v Speaker 1>but people keep continuing on and it's like, ah, you know,

2538
02:27:27.440 --> 02:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but again we're kind of like we kind of got

2539
02:27:30.600 --> 02:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>our hands tied behind our back of what do we do?

2540
02:27:33.520 --> 02:27:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I think the question is, is trying to protect our

2541
02:27:36.319 --> 02:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>future from becoming transhumanism and having transhumanism and allowing the

2542
02:27:43.840 --> 02:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>more integration of AI. That's I think what people really

2543
02:27:47.200 --> 02:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>should be focusing on when it comes to this.

2544
02:27:49.559 --> 02:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>So let's continue on here. So this is large to

2545
02:27:51.760 --> 02:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>your point. This large scale internet surveillance grew out of

2546
02:27:55.000 --> 02:27:58.719
<v Speaker 2>the Bush administration's Post nine to eleven warrantless wiretapping program.

2547
02:27:59.079 --> 02:28:02.040
<v Speaker 2>It is conducted under a controversial law known as Section

2548
02:28:02.159 --> 02:28:06.200
<v Speaker 2>seven oh two of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Relying

2549
02:28:06.239 --> 02:28:08.799
<v Speaker 2>on Section seven oh two, the government intercepts billions of

2550
02:28:08.840 --> 02:28:13.360
<v Speaker 2>international communications, including many sent or received by Americans, and

2551
02:28:13.600 --> 02:28:16.719
<v Speaker 2>it hunts through them in investigations that have nothing to

2552
02:28:16.760 --> 02:28:20.360
<v Speaker 2>do with national security. The Government of attempts to defend

2553
02:28:20.360 --> 02:28:23.239
<v Speaker 2>this spying by pointing out that it's quote unquote targets

2554
02:28:23.600 --> 02:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>are foreigners located abroad, but this is no defense at all.

2555
02:28:27.840 --> 02:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Americans regularly communicate with individuals overseas, and the government uses

2556
02:28:31.959 --> 02:28:34.319
<v Speaker 2>prison surveillance to collect and sift through many of these

2557
02:28:34.360 --> 02:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>private communications. The government has even admitted that one of

2558
02:28:38.120 --> 02:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>the purposes of section seven oh two is to spy

2559
02:28:40.520 --> 02:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>on Americans international communications without a warrant. The government casts

2560
02:28:45.040 --> 02:28:48.399
<v Speaker 2>a wide net, making it easy for innocent Americans who

2561
02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:52.280
<v Speaker 2>communicate with family, friends, and other overseas to be swept up.

2562
02:28:52.559 --> 02:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Relying on a single court order, The NSA uses section

2563
02:28:55.600 --> 02:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>seven oh two to put more than one hundred and

2564
02:28:57.680 --> 02:29:02.159
<v Speaker 2>twenty five thousand targets under surveys each year. These individuals

2565
02:29:02.200 --> 02:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>need not to need not be spies, terrorists, or accused

2566
02:29:05.639 --> 02:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>of any wrongdoing. They can be journalists, business people, university researchers,

2567
02:29:11.319 --> 02:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>or anyone else who may have information bearing remotely on

2568
02:29:15.319 --> 02:29:19.639
<v Speaker 2>foreign affairs. So, for instance, this helmet that I have

2569
02:29:19.719 --> 02:29:22.479
<v Speaker 2>sitting behind me for Boohert. I got this from a

2570
02:29:22.600 --> 02:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Ukrainian armor smith before the rush of the Ukraine conflict

2571
02:29:26.040 --> 02:29:29.159
<v Speaker 2>took off. And if Igor, who's the guy who made this,

2572
02:29:29.559 --> 02:29:31.639
<v Speaker 2>if I was to order some more armor from him,

2573
02:29:31.879 --> 02:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>there would be some sort of a communication between me

2574
02:29:34.040 --> 02:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and Igor. I would get flagged under section seven oh two,

2575
02:29:38.600 --> 02:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>and the government would start monitoring me even more heavier

2576
02:29:41.319 --> 02:29:42.040
<v Speaker 2>than they already are.

2577
02:29:44.399 --> 02:29:44.959
<v Speaker 1>It's wild.

2578
02:29:45.120 --> 02:29:47.479
<v Speaker 2>It could be something so innocuous as that it doesn't

2579
02:29:47.520 --> 02:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>matter anything that could why, especially because it's a Ukrainian

2580
02:29:51.959 --> 02:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>armor smith. Oh man, how do they know I'm not

2581
02:29:55.040 --> 02:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to get in some sort of a collusion with

2582
02:29:57.879 --> 02:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Ukraine about some military options. They don't know. They're just

2583
02:30:01.680 --> 02:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>they're monitoring it, and that could lead them to find

2584
02:30:05.639 --> 02:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>anything that they decided to drum up charges on, even

2585
02:30:08.040 --> 02:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>if I'm not breaking the law, because that's not the point.

2586
02:30:11.559 --> 02:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so where was I at here? So Snowden

2587
02:30:17.600 --> 02:30:20.639
<v Speaker 2>told us about this, right, he told us what was happening,

2588
02:30:20.920 --> 02:30:25.600
<v Speaker 2>but the extent wasn't fully understood until the Cambridge Analytica

2589
02:30:25.639 --> 02:30:28.799
<v Speaker 2>scandal of twenty eighteen. Ravenly, do you remember ever hearing

2590
02:30:28.840 --> 02:30:29.239
<v Speaker 2>about this?

2591
02:30:31.200 --> 02:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

2592
02:30:32.159 --> 02:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so d you?

2593
02:30:33.719 --> 02:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>But I don't like remember a bunch of it. But

2594
02:30:35.799 --> 02:30:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing about.

2595
02:30:36.879 --> 02:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>This, okay, So let's dig into it here. So the

2596
02:30:40.239 --> 02:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Facebook Cambridge Analytica data scandal twenty eighteen, this came to light,

2597
02:30:46.079 --> 02:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and it pretty much validated everything Snowden said in the

2598
02:30:50.040 --> 02:30:54.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty tens. Personal data belonging to millions of Facebook users

2599
02:30:54.159 --> 02:30:58.639
<v Speaker 2>was collected by British consulting firm Cambridge Analytica for political

2600
02:30:58.879 --> 02:31:05.239
<v Speaker 2>advertising without informed consent. Basically, Facebook got caught selling your

2601
02:31:05.319 --> 02:31:09.840
<v Speaker 2>data to British ad agencies. The data was collected through

2602
02:31:09.840 --> 02:31:14.399
<v Speaker 2>an app called quote This is Your Digital Life end Quote,

2603
02:31:14.719 --> 02:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>developed by a data scientist, Alexander Cogan and his company

2604
02:31:18.840 --> 02:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Global Science Research in twenty thirteen. The app consisted of

2605
02:31:22.559 --> 02:31:26.120
<v Speaker 2>a series of questions to build psychological profiles on users

2606
02:31:26.479 --> 02:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>and collected the personal data of the user's Facebook friends

2607
02:31:29.840 --> 02:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>via Facebook Open graph platform. The app harvested the data

2608
02:31:33.959 --> 02:31:38.479
<v Speaker 2>of up to eighty seven million Facebook profiles. Cambridge Analytica

2609
02:31:38.840 --> 02:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>used the data to analytically assist the twenty sixteen presidential

2610
02:31:42.559 --> 02:31:47.399
<v Speaker 2>campaigns of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. Cambridge Analytica was

2611
02:31:47.479 --> 02:31:51.479
<v Speaker 2>also widely accused of interfering with the Brexit referendum, although

2612
02:31:51.479 --> 02:31:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the official investigation recognized that the company was not involved

2613
02:31:55.280 --> 02:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>quote beyond some initial inquiries and that quote no signs

2614
02:32:00.000 --> 02:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>magnificant breaches took place, okay in interviews with The Guardian

2615
02:32:05.559 --> 02:32:08.239
<v Speaker 2>in The New York Times. Information about the data misuse

2616
02:32:08.360 --> 02:32:11.479
<v Speaker 2>was disclosed in March of twenty eighteen by Christopher Wiley,

2617
02:32:11.799 --> 02:32:16.559
<v Speaker 2>a former Cambridge Analytica employee. In response, Facebook apologized for

2618
02:32:16.600 --> 02:32:19.799
<v Speaker 2>their role in the data harvesting, and their CEO, Mark

2619
02:32:19.879 --> 02:32:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Zuckerberg testified in April twenty eighteen in front of Congress.

2620
02:32:23.559 --> 02:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Y'all may remember that time frame when Zuck had to

2621
02:32:27.120 --> 02:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>show up before Congress, and it was a whole thing.

2622
02:32:30.520 --> 02:32:32.559
<v Speaker 2>The memes he was sitting on two cushions to make

2623
02:32:32.639 --> 02:32:35.520
<v Speaker 2>himself look taller, the way he was sipping water was

2624
02:32:35.639 --> 02:32:39.079
<v Speaker 2>very weird, and all of Congress, these old cats were like, so,

2625
02:32:39.399 --> 02:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>mister Zuckerberg, if the WiFi is on, can the Facebook

2626
02:32:44.879 --> 02:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>see my face? And He's like, uh, I'm sorry, what

2627
02:32:50.440 --> 02:32:54.959
<v Speaker 2>if my TV's on and my WiFi router one of

2628
02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>them lies is blinking? Does the Facebook have access to

2629
02:32:58.920 --> 02:32:59.959
<v Speaker 2>my bank accounts?

2630
02:33:00.040 --> 02:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

2631
02:33:00.920 --> 02:33:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And Zuck was just kind of like it's like explaining,

2632
02:33:06.719 --> 02:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>like like you know, back in the day, you'd have

2633
02:33:08.879 --> 02:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>to explain to the Geriact, except with how the VCR worked,

2634
02:33:12.920 --> 02:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>it was like watching that in real time in Congress.

2635
02:33:15.639 --> 02:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It was very embarrassing for all parties, including Zuck. But yes,

2636
02:33:19.079 --> 02:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>he was caught red handed selling information and intelligence to

2637
02:33:23.760 --> 02:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>foreign actors to influence elections. And you know, there was

2638
02:33:29.360 --> 02:33:32.239
<v Speaker 2>some varying levels of success with this, and some of

2639
02:33:32.280 --> 02:33:35.399
<v Speaker 2>this really amounted to nothing anyway, but this is definitely

2640
02:33:35.440 --> 02:33:39.360
<v Speaker 2>what took place. But anyway, in July twenty nineteen, it

2641
02:33:39.399 --> 02:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>was announced that Facebook was to be fined five billion

2642
02:33:42.639 --> 02:33:45.799
<v Speaker 2>dollars by the Federal Trade Commission due to its privacy violations.

2643
02:33:46.440 --> 02:33:48.559
<v Speaker 2>That was it, That was the slap on the wrist

2644
02:33:48.639 --> 02:33:51.520
<v Speaker 2>was five billion dollars not to zuck to the company,

2645
02:33:52.200 --> 02:33:57.799
<v Speaker 2>very important. In October twenty nineteen, Facebook agreed to pay

2646
02:33:57.920 --> 02:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>five hundred thousand pounds to find to the UK Information

2647
02:34:02.840 --> 02:34:06.959
<v Speaker 2>Commissioner's Office for exposing the data of its users to

2648
02:34:07.079 --> 02:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>a serious risk of harm. In May twenty eighteen, Cambridge

2649
02:34:11.000 --> 02:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Analytica filed for Chapter seven bankruptcy. Other advertising agencies have

2650
02:34:16.920 --> 02:34:21.200
<v Speaker 2>been implemented implementing various forms of psychological targeting for years,

2651
02:34:21.239 --> 02:34:24.600
<v Speaker 2>and Facebook had patented a similar technology in twenty twelve.

2652
02:34:26.399 --> 02:34:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Let me say that one again. In twenty twelve, Facebook

2653
02:34:30.719 --> 02:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>patented a form of psychological targeting. Okay, just so we're

2654
02:34:39.159 --> 02:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>all on the same page and we all heard the

2655
02:34:40.520 --> 02:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>same thing. Nevertheless, Cambridge Analytica's methods and their high profile clients,

2656
02:34:44.840 --> 02:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>including the Trump presidential campaign and the UK's Leave EU campaign,

2657
02:34:49.200 --> 02:34:52.760
<v Speaker 2>brought the problems of the psychological targeting, and scholars have

2658
02:34:52.879 --> 02:34:56.319
<v Speaker 2>been warning against to public awareness. The scandal sparked and

2659
02:34:56.399 --> 02:34:59.639
<v Speaker 2>increased public interest in privacy and social media influence on

2660
02:34:59.639 --> 02:35:04.879
<v Speaker 2>politic The online movement hashtag delete Facebook trended on Twitter.

2661
02:35:05.440 --> 02:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Shocker that it did such, and this is before it

2662
02:35:07.399 --> 02:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>became x, So there we have it. Anyway, So basically,

2663
02:35:14.159 --> 02:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Cambridge Analytica paid large amounts of money for access to

2664
02:35:18.360 --> 02:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>a backdoor to Facebook that Zuck and Teal left. So

2665
02:35:23.479 --> 02:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Zuck and Teal when they created this entire website of Facebook,

2666
02:35:28.479 --> 02:35:31.159
<v Speaker 2>they left a series of backdoors that they hailed the

2667
02:35:31.239 --> 02:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>keys to. And I don't mean this in the metaphorical sense.

2668
02:35:34.639 --> 02:35:36.799
<v Speaker 2>In the internet world and in the hacking world, a

2669
02:35:36.920 --> 02:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>backdoor is how you gain access to a website's code,

2670
02:35:40.479 --> 02:35:43.639
<v Speaker 2>and certain things have a key. Now sometimes that is

2671
02:35:43.680 --> 02:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>actually a hard key, like an actual thumb drive that

2672
02:35:47.200 --> 02:35:50.120
<v Speaker 2>unless you are somebody who has this thumb drive plugged in,

2673
02:35:50.280 --> 02:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>you're not getting access to this website. But there are

2674
02:35:54.159 --> 02:35:57.639
<v Speaker 2>hackers that are able to do very very impressive things

2675
02:35:57.680 --> 02:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>with a little bit of time and determination whatever. But anyway,

2676
02:36:02.239 --> 02:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Cambridge Analytica paid huge sums of money to Mark Zuckerberg

2677
02:36:06.959 --> 02:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and to get access to this back door, and they did,

2678
02:36:12.040 --> 02:36:14.639
<v Speaker 2>and they used it against everybody. It gave the British

2679
02:36:14.639 --> 02:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>company access to user data not just a Facebook, but

2680
02:36:18.600 --> 02:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of all of your friends, Facebooks, and very critically every

2681
02:36:24.239 --> 02:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>other app on your phone. This is this is a clincher,

2682
02:36:31.040 --> 02:36:34.079
<v Speaker 2>right the same way that Timu, for instance, anybody who

2683
02:36:34.440 --> 02:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>has the Tu app, but anybody who has Temu downloaded

2684
02:36:38.280 --> 02:36:42.120
<v Speaker 2>on their phone, understand that the CCP is using a

2685
02:36:42.280 --> 02:36:45.840
<v Speaker 2>backdoor to gain entry into your phone. And they can

2686
02:36:45.959 --> 02:36:49.680
<v Speaker 2>use that back door to get access to every app

2687
02:36:50.319 --> 02:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>on your phone, including your banking apps, your emails, your

2688
02:36:54.760 --> 02:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>web browsers, your socials, your location, your camera, your microphone.

2689
02:37:01.280 --> 02:37:03.959
<v Speaker 2>They're able to do that through Timu, and that's also

2690
02:37:04.040 --> 02:37:06.639
<v Speaker 2>been confirmed and understood to be a factual thing. This

2691
02:37:06.799 --> 02:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>in a hypothetical conspiracy theory. Right to prove that point

2692
02:37:11.360 --> 02:37:13.879
<v Speaker 2>that they have access to do this, Cambridge Analytica was

2693
02:37:13.879 --> 02:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>caught doing it in twenty eighteen through Facebook. So moving on.

2694
02:37:21.639 --> 02:37:25.280
<v Speaker 2>It's wild things, y'all, It really really is. So Cambridge

2695
02:37:25.280 --> 02:37:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Analytica was caught using this backdoor to influence elections in

2696
02:37:29.000 --> 02:37:35.440
<v Speaker 2>multiple countries mixed results, most notably Singapore their elections. Cambridge

2697
02:37:35.479 --> 02:37:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Analytica actually swayed that pretty substantially. Believe it or not,

2698
02:37:41.440 --> 02:37:43.319
<v Speaker 2>but that's that's more of a talk for another day.

2699
02:37:44.280 --> 02:37:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Once they had fifty thousand data points on every single user,

2700
02:37:49.879 --> 02:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>they sold it to the highs Bidder. So Cambridge Analytica

2701
02:37:53.520 --> 02:37:56.399
<v Speaker 2>is just using this to get data points. Now real quick,

2702
02:37:57.079 --> 02:38:00.399
<v Speaker 2>you might ask, what is a data point? This could

2703
02:38:00.440 --> 02:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>be something very small and innocuous, or this could be

2704
02:38:02.920 --> 02:38:07.399
<v Speaker 2>something very large, for instance, your retinal scan or your

2705
02:38:07.440 --> 02:38:10.799
<v Speaker 2>facial recognition. To lock your banking app, or to log

2706
02:38:10.840 --> 02:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>into your password app, to get into all of your

2707
02:38:13.000 --> 02:38:16.079
<v Speaker 2>other shit, that's a data point, but so is every

2708
02:38:16.079 --> 02:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>single thing that that unlocks. Also, you stopping at lunch

2709
02:38:20.879 --> 02:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>at a certain restaurant could be a data point. What

2710
02:38:23.920 --> 02:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you order at that restaurant could be a data point.

2711
02:38:26.719 --> 02:38:31.319
<v Speaker 2>It's basically just a thing that the agency or whoever's

2712
02:38:31.319 --> 02:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>looking into you would find of interest. That's essentially it.

2713
02:38:35.719 --> 02:38:38.959
<v Speaker 2>Some of these are more serious than others, of course,

2714
02:38:39.520 --> 02:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>but a data point isn't necessarily like, oh, this guy

2715
02:38:42.959 --> 02:38:44.559
<v Speaker 2>all he does is go to work and go home.

2716
02:38:44.600 --> 02:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to see here, No, no, no, What YouTube

2717
02:38:48.120 --> 02:38:50.959
<v Speaker 2>channels does this guy subscribe to? What does this guy

2718
02:38:51.120 --> 02:38:55.079
<v Speaker 2>listen to and from work every day? What where does

2719
02:38:55.120 --> 02:38:59.159
<v Speaker 2>he work in what regard, all of these things are

2720
02:38:59.239 --> 02:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>data points to collect a basically a dossier on you.

2721
02:39:03.639 --> 02:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So once Cambridge Analytica collected fifty thousand data points from

2722
02:39:07.959 --> 02:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>every single Facebook user, every single Facebook user, they sold

2723
02:39:15.440 --> 02:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>that data to the highest bidder and were caught red.

2724
02:39:18.879 --> 02:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Handed and nothing happened.

2725
02:39:22.239 --> 02:39:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Nothing really, they got a find they did the cleared scene.

2726
02:39:26.879 --> 02:39:29.479
<v Speaker 1>It's whatever, I mean, banks, how many times is Trump

2727
02:39:29.559 --> 02:39:32.280
<v Speaker 1>declared bankruptcy? Like the whole shit done yet?

2728
02:39:32.399 --> 02:39:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know at least for probably more, but at

2729
02:39:34.280 --> 02:39:35.280
<v Speaker 2>least openly.

2730
02:39:34.959 --> 02:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>For It's not even a big deal for them, so

2731
02:39:39.079 --> 02:39:41.159
<v Speaker 1>especially if they use it to their advantage. I know

2732
02:39:41.399 --> 02:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody talked about that the chapter seven, how the big

2733
02:39:44.280 --> 02:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>corporations can use that to their advantage. Yep, So he

2734
02:39:49.239 --> 02:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>got fined, but like nothing actually changed.

2735
02:39:52.879 --> 02:39:56.399
<v Speaker 2>It was all slap on the wrist. Essentially, Zuck had

2736
02:39:56.440 --> 02:40:00.399
<v Speaker 2>to pay not even Zuck the Facebook company, which all

2737
02:40:00.440 --> 02:40:02.639
<v Speaker 2>they did pretty much to just sell off that many

2738
02:40:02.719 --> 02:40:06.920
<v Speaker 2>shares of their company and pay it off. Like nobody

2739
02:40:06.959 --> 02:40:09.680
<v Speaker 2>saw jail time for spying on the people that way

2740
02:40:10.319 --> 02:40:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and influencing elections. No, and everybody's like, oh, it's all

2741
02:40:13.639 --> 02:40:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Russian collusion. Not exactly. Actually it was Russia didn't collude

2742
02:40:18.959 --> 02:40:22.879
<v Speaker 2>with anybody on that election. We're gonna talk about certain

2743
02:40:23.040 --> 02:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>people colluding on that election and swaying the vote. We

2744
02:40:26.680 --> 02:40:30.680
<v Speaker 2>could have that conversation for sure, what in Russia? What

2745
02:40:30.719 --> 02:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>in Israel? It wasn't though it wasn't. It was a

2746
02:40:35.120 --> 02:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>very select cabal of individuals who have been in cahoots

2747
02:40:38.959 --> 02:40:42.360
<v Speaker 2>doing this literally since two thousand and two, probably longer

2748
02:40:42.399 --> 02:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>than that, but at least this particular group of shiittheads,

2749
02:40:44.959 --> 02:40:46.799
<v Speaker 2>we have a track record and a chain of custody

2750
02:40:46.799 --> 02:40:49.079
<v Speaker 2>that brings them back to two thousand and two. And

2751
02:40:49.120 --> 02:40:53.639
<v Speaker 2>once again, and I cannot stress this enough, it all

2752
02:40:53.840 --> 02:40:58.479
<v Speaker 2>ties back to Jeffrey Epstein. And now that these files

2753
02:40:58.520 --> 02:41:00.879
<v Speaker 2>have been released and these emails are open source and

2754
02:41:00.920 --> 02:41:02.520
<v Speaker 2>all these things, and now we have a chain of

2755
02:41:02.520 --> 02:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>custody and we have names and dates and places and things.

2756
02:41:06.000 --> 02:41:09.159
<v Speaker 2>It's all been verified. All the claims we've been making

2757
02:41:09.239 --> 02:41:14.719
<v Speaker 2>have been validated. Without Jeffrey Epstein, the government would not

2758
02:41:14.840 --> 02:41:17.319
<v Speaker 2>have had the ability to spy on us in the

2759
02:41:17.319 --> 02:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>way that they do, because Peter Teal wouldn't have had

2760
02:41:21.280 --> 02:41:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the contacts that he had, meaning Mark Zuckerberg wouldn't have

2761
02:41:24.680 --> 02:41:27.840
<v Speaker 2>had the contacts that he had, which means Pallenteer in

2762
02:41:27.920 --> 02:41:31.879
<v Speaker 2>totality wouldn't have had the things that it had. All

2763
02:41:31.920 --> 02:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>of the things, like I said, going down the list

2764
02:41:34.159 --> 02:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>LinkedIn PayPal, Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, you name it, any tech

2765
02:41:41.399 --> 02:41:45.879
<v Speaker 2>startup that is quote unquote American over the last twenty years,

2766
02:41:46.840 --> 02:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>all ties back to these.

2767
02:41:47.840 --> 02:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Shitheads Peter tele has mentioned two and eighty six times.

2768
02:41:54.600 --> 02:41:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Of course, why not.

2769
02:41:57.600 --> 02:42:00.280
<v Speaker 1>So all of it's linked, which is wild. So I mean,

2770
02:42:00.280 --> 02:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you brought more attention to the AI

2771
02:42:03.159 --> 02:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>aspect of it and the data collection, because the data

2772
02:42:06.360 --> 02:42:09.799
<v Speaker 1>collection is the biggest thing. When we talk about AI

2773
02:42:10.479 --> 02:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>gaining sentientsts and being able to be compatible more with humans,

2774
02:42:15.399 --> 02:42:19.319
<v Speaker 1>it's collecting data. It needs the data to understand how

2775
02:42:19.360 --> 02:42:21.479
<v Speaker 1>to predict and to be able to move forward.

2776
02:42:22.360 --> 02:42:25.879
<v Speaker 2>And that's the other part, y'all. We have been saying

2777
02:42:25.920 --> 02:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>four years, And I know, I know some people out

2778
02:42:29.239 --> 02:42:33.760
<v Speaker 2>there are lazy and they think that AI is the

2779
02:42:33.799 --> 02:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>greatest thing since slice bread. Y'all using AI as a

2780
02:42:39.319 --> 02:42:43.360
<v Speaker 2>tool for a certain job function. All right, Okay, I

2781
02:42:43.440 --> 02:42:49.120
<v Speaker 2>understand it expedites certain things, but please understand what you're

2782
02:42:49.159 --> 02:42:53.600
<v Speaker 2>sacrificing for that AI, and please understand where that AI

2783
02:42:53.799 --> 02:42:57.559
<v Speaker 2>came from. It is not a crazy concept to say

2784
02:42:57.600 --> 02:43:02.600
<v Speaker 2>that Jeffrey Epstein is the god fathing funder and one

2785
02:43:02.639 --> 02:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>of the godfathing godfather founders of AI as we know

2786
02:43:08.079 --> 02:43:11.959
<v Speaker 2>it today, going back in time from the two thousand

2787
02:43:11.959 --> 02:43:15.879
<v Speaker 2>and two Common Sense Symposium that he hailed at his

2788
02:43:16.040 --> 02:43:20.319
<v Speaker 2>house in the Virgin Islands all the way to now

2789
02:43:20.799 --> 02:43:24.440
<v Speaker 2>where we have AI takeovers and all of these careers

2790
02:43:24.600 --> 02:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>are being lost to AI in robotics and engineering and

2791
02:43:29.200 --> 02:43:32.479
<v Speaker 2>everything that Elon Musk is involved with, everything Peter Teel

2792
02:43:32.559 --> 02:43:36.079
<v Speaker 2>is involved with. Y'all. Notice how AI is taking over,

2793
02:43:36.479 --> 02:43:38.120
<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean that in some sort of a

2794
02:43:38.200 --> 02:43:41.719
<v Speaker 2>silly turn of phrase way, legitimately taking over to a

2795
02:43:41.799 --> 02:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>level to where the Terminator movies are looking like a

2796
02:43:45.040 --> 02:43:47.799
<v Speaker 2>real possibility here in the next five years.

2797
02:43:48.040 --> 02:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I think once that we do my episode, the next

2798
02:43:51.479 --> 02:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>episode we're shooting, I'm going to be talking about the

2799
02:43:54.680 --> 02:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>genetics and stuff. I think the next one after that

2800
02:43:57.040 --> 02:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>we should do about the actual technology that we have

2801
02:44:00.120 --> 02:44:03.200
<v Speaker 1>right now as of the date for AI, because they've

2802
02:44:03.239 --> 02:44:07.399
<v Speaker 1>made massive advancements just in the last two months. And

2803
02:44:07.440 --> 02:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people, I mean, it's not if you

2804
02:44:09.840 --> 02:44:11.559
<v Speaker 1>don't care about it. You're not going to keep up

2805
02:44:11.559 --> 02:44:13.399
<v Speaker 1>with it. I guess the only reason I really care

2806
02:44:13.399 --> 02:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>about it. Like I don't enjoy technology stuff, I think

2807
02:44:16.280 --> 02:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>there's some of it that's actually really fascinating and some

2808
02:44:19.840 --> 02:44:21.879
<v Speaker 1>of the AI. I will say this, I know that

2809
02:44:21.920 --> 02:44:23.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are like you hate AI. I

2810
02:44:23.879 --> 02:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>hate AI in the sense there's certain things of why

2811
02:44:27.639 --> 02:44:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I dislike AI. There is actual good technology when it

2812
02:44:32.159 --> 02:44:34.879
<v Speaker 1>comes to AI. I think the one that's really cool

2813
02:44:35.440 --> 02:44:38.639
<v Speaker 1>that I could see how it could turn nefarious, but

2814
02:44:38.680 --> 02:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I think as right now it's a cool one is

2815
02:44:40.559 --> 02:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the memory preserving one, because as looks so the memory

2816
02:44:47.040 --> 02:44:50.159
<v Speaker 1>preserving one, and I'll actually play the video. I'll find

2817
02:44:50.200 --> 02:44:52.479
<v Speaker 1>a video for it so that way we can watch it.

2818
02:44:53.399 --> 02:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>They take your memory and they reconstruct your memories using AI,

2819
02:44:57.639 --> 02:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>being able to like pretty much put a slideshow together

2820
02:45:02.159 --> 02:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>per se of like your life, so you don't forget

2821
02:45:05.760 --> 02:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>all the things because if you notice, you only hold

2822
02:45:08.040 --> 02:45:14.479
<v Speaker 1>on to like certain moments, feelings, smells, you know, like glimpses.

2823
02:45:14.680 --> 02:45:16.559
<v Speaker 1>As you get older, you start to lose some of

2824
02:45:16.600 --> 02:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>your memories with when you're a child and stuff. Yeah,

2825
02:45:19.879 --> 02:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>this can actually recreate them before you and be able

2826
02:45:22.959 --> 02:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>to show you like a movie, which I think is

2827
02:45:24.840 --> 02:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool. To be honest, there's really there's some

2828
02:45:27.000 --> 02:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>really good robotic things when it comes to surgery, where

2829
02:45:31.159 --> 02:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>they're so technical that it's been very difficult for human

2830
02:45:34.399 --> 02:45:39.559
<v Speaker 1>hands to be able to do specific surgeries. There is

2831
02:45:39.639 --> 02:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>benefits to AI and robotics, but there is a lot

2832
02:45:43.280 --> 02:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>more negatives when it comes to the advancements and what

2833
02:45:48.399 --> 02:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they actually want to do with it is where the

2834
02:45:52.000 --> 02:45:55.559
<v Speaker 1>true ethical concerns, at least for myself are.

2835
02:45:55.799 --> 02:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'd agree with that, But I mean, I'm

2836
02:46:01.319 --> 02:46:04.479
<v Speaker 2>not saying the AI is like there's no place for it.

2837
02:46:04.920 --> 02:46:07.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, I absolutely can see benefits to it in

2838
02:46:07.760 --> 02:46:11.399
<v Speaker 2>certain regards, but it's the manner at which people are

2839
02:46:11.399 --> 02:46:14.280
<v Speaker 2>relying on it now, not using it as a tool,

2840
02:46:14.799 --> 02:46:19.760
<v Speaker 2>relying on it now, And then to cut back, how

2841
02:46:19.959 --> 02:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>children now are not doing research for projects anymore. Most

2842
02:46:23.760 --> 02:46:26.280
<v Speaker 2>schools are not even doing some sort of I remember

2843
02:46:26.319 --> 02:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>a time when you, yeah, you would pull up Wikipedia,

2844
02:46:29.879 --> 02:46:33.440
<v Speaker 2>and we all know that Wikipedia is not that trustworthy

2845
02:46:33.479 --> 02:46:37.280
<v Speaker 2>of a source in all regards. Sometimes it is a legitimate, historical,

2846
02:46:37.360 --> 02:46:40.200
<v Speaker 2>documented thing and there's sites underneath it and all the stuff.

2847
02:46:40.399 --> 02:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>But for a while.

2848
02:46:41.200 --> 02:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>There, anybody could edit it, right, And that's why we

2849
02:46:44.200 --> 02:46:47.280
<v Speaker 2>weren't allowed to use Wikipedia when we did research projects. Oh,

2850
02:46:47.319 --> 02:46:49.799
<v Speaker 2>it was so easy to copy and paste an entire

2851
02:46:50.000 --> 02:46:52.680
<v Speaker 2>thing and just change up a couple little things and

2852
02:46:52.760 --> 02:46:54.879
<v Speaker 2>put it up as that's your research project for a

2853
02:46:54.920 --> 02:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>science project or whatever the case. Right, And then the

2854
02:46:59.280 --> 02:47:02.719
<v Speaker 2>teachers started. Every time you turn something in, they would

2855
02:47:02.760 --> 02:47:06.319
<v Speaker 2>copy the whole thing, plug it into a plagiarism website

2856
02:47:06.760 --> 02:47:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and find what website that came from the teachers aren't

2857
02:47:10.280 --> 02:47:14.159
<v Speaker 2>even doing that anymore because these kids are turning in

2858
02:47:14.239 --> 02:47:18.600
<v Speaker 2>shit that's straight up AI, and the teachers are basically like, ah,

2859
02:47:18.639 --> 02:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>well fuck it. Whatever AI is gonna be the way

2860
02:47:20.959 --> 02:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>of the future anyway, I'd rather the kids learn how

2861
02:47:22.840 --> 02:47:25.520
<v Speaker 2>to use it than worry about it they're cheating or not.

2862
02:47:25.559 --> 02:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, no, that's not the right fucking answer.

2863
02:47:27.760 --> 02:47:31.079
<v Speaker 2>You kunt, like, what are we talking about here? But

2864
02:47:32.040 --> 02:47:35.639
<v Speaker 2>that is what I mean. These kids and adults are

2865
02:47:35.639 --> 02:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>relying on AI for all of their information, all of

2866
02:47:39.719 --> 02:47:43.559
<v Speaker 2>their research, all of their truth. That I have a

2867
02:47:43.760 --> 02:47:47.360
<v Speaker 2>very very deep problem with, especially when you learn that

2868
02:47:47.479 --> 02:47:51.159
<v Speaker 2>AI is wrong more often than it's right, and there's

2869
02:47:51.159 --> 02:47:53.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be people that disagree with that statement. AI is

2870
02:47:53.520 --> 02:47:57.040
<v Speaker 2>right more often I'm sorry, that's incorrect. That is incorrect.

2871
02:47:57.079 --> 02:48:00.879
<v Speaker 2>AI is giving you whatever the most Google searches tells

2872
02:48:00.920 --> 02:48:02.879
<v Speaker 2>it to give you. That doesn't mean that it is

2873
02:48:03.000 --> 02:48:06.399
<v Speaker 2>fact checked the data that it's presenting to you. And

2874
02:48:06.879 --> 02:48:09.319
<v Speaker 2>if you have a question about that type in anything

2875
02:48:09.360 --> 02:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>that's politically objectively a little questionable, it's going to give

2876
02:48:13.559 --> 02:48:18.239
<v Speaker 2>you a certain side of the conversation, typically the incorrect side.

2877
02:48:19.159 --> 02:48:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Take the how you want it.

2878
02:48:22.360 --> 02:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I think all of this is interesting, how it

2879
02:48:24.879 --> 02:48:28.559
<v Speaker 1>all ties into E. F Seen and Peter Teal and

2880
02:48:28.600 --> 02:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>how really Peter Teal's name needs to be brought up

2881
02:48:32.280 --> 02:48:34.719
<v Speaker 1>more and more and more. I was just as we've

2882
02:48:34.760 --> 02:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>been talking, there was an article from last year of

2883
02:48:37.239 --> 02:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about how he's collecting kids from universities like fucking

2884
02:48:42.120 --> 02:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Pokemon cards, yeah, and making them drop out so once

2885
02:48:45.479 --> 02:48:48.879
<v Speaker 1>they get selected, they have to drop out of their programs,

2886
02:48:48.920 --> 02:48:51.319
<v Speaker 1>and it was a whole article about it, and like

2887
02:48:51.639 --> 02:48:56.159
<v Speaker 1>he's still living his best life out and about over

2888
02:48:56.239 --> 02:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand times, as he mentioned in this, he's created,

2889
02:49:00.000 --> 02:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he did a literal killing machine that is being utilized

2890
02:49:04.559 --> 02:49:08.559
<v Speaker 1>to be able to predict human ways and to help

2891
02:49:09.000 --> 02:49:11.959
<v Speaker 1>be more effective and efficient when it's coming to warfare

2892
02:49:13.200 --> 02:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>just let alone everything else that he has his hands in,

2893
02:49:16.440 --> 02:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and how he's tracking all of your data all the time.

2894
02:49:19.879 --> 02:49:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And it was their brainchild to get these people together

2895
02:49:23.200 --> 02:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and to do this. And Epstein is actually praised in

2896
02:49:26.719 --> 02:49:30.760
<v Speaker 1>an article. It's him on the front and it's his

2897
02:49:30.840 --> 02:49:34.239
<v Speaker 1>whole thing praising him that you can look up from

2898
02:49:34.280 --> 02:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three praising Epstein about hosting this symporium

2899
02:49:38.840 --> 02:49:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and how amazing it was and how revolutionary this is

2900
02:49:44.040 --> 02:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>to get everyone together and to really push forward and

2901
02:49:47.079 --> 02:49:50.079
<v Speaker 1>create ideas and all this stuff. And then there's photos,

2902
02:49:50.280 --> 02:49:53.559
<v Speaker 1>tons and tons of photos of him at Harvard with

2903
02:49:53.639 --> 02:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>all of these people having these deep in depth intellectual

2904
02:49:58.000 --> 02:50:03.760
<v Speaker 1>conversations of quote, you know, just thinking just whatever we're

2905
02:50:03.760 --> 02:50:06.799
<v Speaker 1>doing theology and blah blah blah. No, I think that

2906
02:50:06.799 --> 02:50:09.360
<v Speaker 1>they're going over eugenic stuff. I think that they're talking

2907
02:50:09.399 --> 02:50:11.879
<v Speaker 1>about these programs and what else they can do and

2908
02:50:11.879 --> 02:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>how they can make it moving forward, how they can

2909
02:50:15.239 --> 02:50:18.079
<v Speaker 1>make it more beneficial for people, and people want to

2910
02:50:18.079 --> 02:50:19.959
<v Speaker 1>actually take this and accept it.

2911
02:50:20.680 --> 02:50:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, it's funny whenever you're talking about

2912
02:50:24.959 --> 02:50:27.799
<v Speaker 2>the AI and how it's being used to create a

2913
02:50:27.840 --> 02:50:31.280
<v Speaker 2>more efficient killing machine. That reminded me of the story

2914
02:50:31.280 --> 02:50:33.479
<v Speaker 2>where they use the Marines to try to test out

2915
02:50:33.600 --> 02:50:37.799
<v Speaker 2>that new computer system, and because Marines are the Marines,

2916
02:50:37.840 --> 02:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>they fucked it up. You remember hearing about this, So

2917
02:50:43.159 --> 02:50:46.120
<v Speaker 2>all right, so once upon a time, and I just

2918
02:50:46.159 --> 02:50:49.120
<v Speaker 2>tried looking up the year, but I'm a little fuzzy

2919
02:50:49.120 --> 02:50:52.239
<v Speaker 2>on the details, but it was sometime in or like

2920
02:50:52.399 --> 02:50:57.200
<v Speaker 2>mid two thousands. The a DARPA group came out with

2921
02:50:57.520 --> 02:51:01.159
<v Speaker 2>a computer program that was rigged up to a camera

2922
02:51:01.239 --> 02:51:05.879
<v Speaker 2>that was basically going to see an enemy combatant when

2923
02:51:05.879 --> 02:51:08.239
<v Speaker 2>it looked at and they programmed it to look at marines.

2924
02:51:08.280 --> 02:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>There was like a group of six of.

2925
02:51:09.879 --> 02:51:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Them, I think, and they were told your job is

2926
02:51:13.680 --> 02:51:16.239
<v Speaker 2>to start here, and it was like one thousand yards

2927
02:51:16.280 --> 02:51:21.200
<v Speaker 2>off and run past this computer or this camera without

2928
02:51:21.239 --> 02:51:26.000
<v Speaker 2>being seen as a threat. So we need you to

2929
02:51:26.120 --> 02:51:30.680
<v Speaker 2>move in a way that is non soldierly quote unquote

2930
02:51:30.760 --> 02:51:33.799
<v Speaker 2>as a way to trip up the computer. The Marines,

2931
02:51:34.200 --> 02:51:37.879
<v Speaker 2>being Marines, were like, bro, got you. One of them

2932
02:51:37.959 --> 02:51:42.719
<v Speaker 2>somersaulted for one thousand meters and the camera did not

2933
02:51:43.680 --> 02:51:47.959
<v Speaker 2>pick it up them. Two of them grabbed big ass

2934
02:51:48.000 --> 02:51:51.959
<v Speaker 2>boxes and like ran with boxes over them and you

2935
02:51:51.959 --> 02:51:54.680
<v Speaker 2>could even hear them giggling to themselves, laughing as they

2936
02:51:54.760 --> 02:51:56.719
<v Speaker 2>kept tripping and falling all over each other as they

2937
02:51:56.719 --> 02:51:59.399
<v Speaker 2>were running for one thousand meters past this camera, and

2938
02:51:59.440 --> 02:52:02.120
<v Speaker 2>it didn't pick up that this was like a ruse

2939
02:52:02.520 --> 02:52:08.079
<v Speaker 2>because it was still a developmental stage. Another one, another

2940
02:52:08.079 --> 02:52:12.440
<v Speaker 2>one cut down a little sapling and walked up quote

2941
02:52:13.280 --> 02:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>moving like a tree for a thousand meters past this

2942
02:52:17.559 --> 02:52:19.840
<v Speaker 2>camera to where it didn't pick it up. And it's like, brother,

2943
02:52:20.200 --> 02:52:22.079
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean you moved like a tree for

2944
02:52:22.120 --> 02:52:24.399
<v Speaker 2>a thousand meters? Showed me a tree that moves a

2945
02:52:24.479 --> 02:52:27.120
<v Speaker 2>thousand meters and it's like, look, it worked. Okay, it's

2946
02:52:27.120 --> 02:52:30.840
<v Speaker 2>only done if it daring the Lord of the rings,

2947
02:52:34.280 --> 02:52:34.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

2948
02:52:34.639 --> 02:52:36.920
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean you want some examples, I got you.

2949
02:52:37.360 --> 02:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>But like, yeah, that was a thing that took place

2950
02:52:39.440 --> 02:52:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and that was in the developmental stage of this DARPA

2951
02:52:41.840 --> 02:52:45.120
<v Speaker 2>program for literally what became what is being used in

2952
02:52:45.120 --> 02:52:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Gaza right now, or was last year. But yeah, it's uh,

2953
02:52:49.719 --> 02:52:53.719
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy how much the research and development has changed

2954
02:52:53.840 --> 02:52:58.639
<v Speaker 2>and gotten so much better. This is deadly, this is dangerous,

2955
02:52:58.799 --> 02:53:03.399
<v Speaker 2>and people are still championing AI like it's the new Savior,

2956
02:53:03.959 --> 02:53:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and all of it is indeed tied back to Jeffrey Epstein,

2957
02:53:09.079 --> 02:53:13.479
<v Speaker 2>his pedophile ring, his dirty blood money. Start to finish,

2958
02:53:13.680 --> 02:53:18.760
<v Speaker 2>there's no way around y'all. Yep So, anyway, while we

2959
02:53:18.799 --> 02:53:21.319
<v Speaker 2>wrap this episode up, I thought this was a wild one.

2960
02:53:21.680 --> 02:53:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that I brought it up to the good

2961
02:53:23.200 --> 02:53:25.120
<v Speaker 2>cult members, but we want to hear what y'all think

2962
02:53:25.159 --> 02:53:27.079
<v Speaker 2>about it before I go ahead and give that send off.

2963
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<v Speaker 2>I want to go ahead and give the send off

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<v Speaker 2>the one to reach out to you and get you

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<v Speaker 2>squared away. Listen, talk to your financial advisor, talk to

2971
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<v Speaker 2>your CPA whoever's handling your retirement, and ask them what

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<v Speaker 2>they think about investing in precious gold and silver, precious

2973
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<v Speaker 2>metals and totality and let me know what they think.

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<v Speaker 2>And once they tell you the truth of the matter,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll want to get your hands on some because they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna tell you at least a portion of your retirement

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<v Speaker 2>portfolio needs to be invested in precious metals. While it

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<v Speaker 2>is still affordable to get your hands on some silver

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<v Speaker 2>golds over three thousand and ounce.

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<v Speaker 1>That shit's way up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Silver is affordable, why still get your hands on some

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<v Speaker 2>Let me think if there's anything else we need to

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<v Speaker 2>plug raveingly you got anything on your in.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, we got everything. Join the Patreon, come hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, indeed, come get that listening experience. Come get it

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself here. But good call members another to support

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<v Speaker 2>the show and let us know what you think about

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02:55:02.399 --> 02:55:05.079
<v Speaker 2>this episode. Do you think we're crazy for saying that

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02:55:05.120 --> 02:55:07.879
<v Speaker 2>Epstein is the godfather of AI? Do you think that

3001
02:55:07.920 --> 02:55:11.399
<v Speaker 2>he might just be the financier and not necessarily the godfather. However,

3002
02:55:11.719 --> 02:55:14.239
<v Speaker 2>these shitheads wouldn't have come together if it wasn't for Epstein.

3003
02:55:14.319 --> 02:55:16.799
<v Speaker 2>But look, that's my opinion in the facts of the matter.

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02:55:16.840 --> 02:55:18.360
<v Speaker 2>But hey, we want to hear from you. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it? The best place to let us

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<v Speaker 2>know what be to please hit the five stars at

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<v Speaker 2>shares with their friends and family, share us everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>The more activity the algorithmsease across all of our listening platforms,

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<v Speaker 2>the more we get promoted more potential listeners who could

3012
02:55:33.319 --> 02:55:36.040
<v Speaker 2>then become potential cult members. I addressed you, fine ladies

3013
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<v Speaker 2>and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you going to go check out Menimistics.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan's other show and getting the same level respect over

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<v Speaker 2>there with the five star views on the positivity in

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<v Speaker 2>the comments. Come check out the Cage tonight and come

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<v Speaker 2>join each of us for our individual Patreon Liz that

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<v Speaker 2>we host every Wednesday night in nine PM Central. Links

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<v Speaker 2>to those are in the description as well, and we

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. Everybody's already gone and done so. And with

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<v Speaker 2>all of this being said, this was another beautiful episode

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02:55:56.200 --> 02:55:59.600
<v Speaker 2>of the cult of conspiracy. And I am the Cage

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<v Speaker 2>to Night. I am really and there's one very important,

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<v Speaker 2>extremely vital piece of information we need to learn just

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as humanly possible at all
