WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.639 What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. Recently, 2 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:08.480 we were talking about the sealed search warrant from Pennsylvania 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.080 and if that was going to be unsealed or not. Well, 4 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:15.560 lo and behold, that bad boy has been unsealed, and 5 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.199 we're definitely going to go through it line by line. 6 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.839 But before we add the actual warrant to the catalog, 7 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.920 we're going to dive into this article from Fox News 8 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:28.440 and kind of get an overview about what they found 9 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:33.119 when they executed this search warrant. This article was published 10 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:40.359 by Fox News headline Idaho murders Brian Coberger's Pennsylvania warrants unsealed. 11 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:44.679 The warrant had been sealed for sixty days. This article 12 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:52.039 is authored by Michael Ruiz. A Pennsylvania court has unsealed 13 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:55.920 the December thirtieth search warrant in the Idaho student murders case, 14 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.520 which led to the arrest of suspect Brian Koberger at 15 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:03.439 his parent house in the Pocono Mountains nearly seven weeks 16 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:07.879 after the slayings. Police seized a number of new items 17 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.760 at the home, including medical style gloves, a black sweatshirt 18 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:18.439 size thirteen Nike sneakers, and they also took a buckle swab. 19 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.159 And what a buckle swab is is when they take 20 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:25.200 some of the cells from inside of your cheek. So 21 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:27.200 like when you see one of those cop movies or 22 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.319 cop shows and they're getting the DNA from somebody from 23 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:31.000 the side of their. 24 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.680 Cheek, that's a buckle swab. 25 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.280 And as far as the Nike shoes go, I took 26 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.280 a look around at some Nike's, just a quick look. 27 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:42.439 I didn't go too deep, but looking at Nike shoes 28 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:46.519 that have similar soles to Vans, I came up pretty short. 29 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:49.159 There really aren't too many shoes out there with a 30 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:52.480 similar pattern to the Van shoe. But we have to remember, 31 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.719 all we heard was a diamond shaped latent print, so 32 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:00.040 that could be construed several different ways, and until we 33 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.560 have more context, we don't really know one way or 34 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:06.200 the other. Now, likely he was wearing some Vans, or 35 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.759 whoever committed these murders was wearing a pair of Vans, 36 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:13.039 but we can't discount the fact that there might be 37 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:16.080 another pair of shoes out there that share a similar 38 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:19.000 soul pattern. I know I'm not an expert in shoes, 39 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.960 you know, an old ass man these days, So I'm 40 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.080 not really hip on what all the cool shoes are, 41 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:27.159 but I'm guessing not many of them have the same 42 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.560 soul as a pair of vans, So them retrieving the 43 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.919 pair of Nikes here is pretty interesting. Honestly, what could 44 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:39.039 those nikes have to do with what happened in Moscow? 45 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:43.120 Maybe nothing, but the investigators thought that they were significant 46 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.599 enough that they're going to swoop them up with this 47 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:51.039 search warrant. Coburger, a twenty eight year old criminology PhD 48 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:55.919 student at Washington State University during the attack, is accused 49 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:59.599 of ambushing before University of Idaho students in the middle 50 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:03.479 of the night, right on November thirteenth. The schools are 51 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.319 about seven miles apart, and it's crazy to think how 52 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:11.280 many of these killers end up murdering people so close 53 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:13.520 to their own home. I would think that if you're 54 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.639 going to be a killer, that you'd want to do 55 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:18.840 it somewhere far from where you live. But it seems 56 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:21.400 like all of these killers, or at least a vast 57 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:24.560 majority of them at the very least, commit a few 58 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:27.159 of these crimes close to home. And then you look 59 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.479 at a guy like Israel Keys, who really planned out 60 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:33.599 his murders and traveled across country to do it. And 61 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.479 the reason he was caught was because he committed a 62 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:40.199 crime close to home. So these guys that do this 63 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:43.120 close to home, it's only a matter of time before 64 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:43.919 they get nailed. 65 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:45.240 Even BTK. 66 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.719 Look how long he was active, and he was praying 67 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:52.199 on a community that he was living in, but eventually 68 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:56.919 he got too cute and he got nailed. The attack 69 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:01.240 killed twenty one year old Klee Gonsalves and Madison, along 70 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.240 with their twenty year old housemaids Anna Kernodle and her 71 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.840 boyfriend Ethan Chapin, and according to the warrant, a few 72 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:12.680 of the items that were seized was one Defiant silver flashlight, 73 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:19.319 four medical style gloves, white Arizona Gene Company large T shirt, 74 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:24.800 Champion Washington Cougar large black sweatshirt, a pair of black 75 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:28.800 and white sized thirteen Nike shoes, a pair of black 76 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:33.959 under armour socks, under armour, black large shorts, under armour, 77 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:39.199 black Boxer large, and one bucle swab. I guess it's 78 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.879 safe to say that Brian Coberger liked to rock some 79 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:47.240 under armour, huh. According to the court documents, police found 80 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:50.079 a k bar knife sheath near a Mogan's body and 81 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:55.199 recovered a DNA sample from the snap. That DNA was 82 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:59.079 a familial match for another sample taken from the trash 83 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:03.920 at the Coburger family residents in all Brightsville, Pennsylvania. After 84 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:07.759 tracking Coburger across the country, police said they believed his 85 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:10.759 vehicle allegedly spotted at the crime scene the night of 86 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.879 the slayings was parked in a two car garage on 87 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:17.879 the west side of his parents' home. Police say his 88 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:22.199 vehicle arrived at his parents' house on December sixteenth, and 89 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:27.079 investigators spotted him walking around outside on December twenty seventh. 90 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.879 He left his parents' house on December twenty eighth, and 91 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:36.079 investigators observed him traveling to various locations in Monroe County. 92 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.360 After a tactical raid at his parents' home on December thirtieth, 93 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.639 police searched the house and attached garage, a shed, and 94 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:48.680 his car. Other items they seized include a silver flashlight 95 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:53.680 and several other articles of clothing. And I have no 96 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:57.439 idea how significant any of that clothing is going to be. 97 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:01.240 We're talking about quite some time between when the murders 98 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:04.360 occurred and when he was arrested, so he had plenty 99 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.680 of time to clean those clothes up, put him in 100 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.199 the wash, whatever. But is that going to get rid 101 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.879 of all of the evidence. With the technology they have 102 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:15.199 these days, who the hell knows they can pull stuff 103 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.920 out of the most minute little sample that they're able 104 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.319 to pull from a crime scene. So I wouldn't be 105 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:24.560 resting easy if I was Brian Coburger and I happened 106 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.399 to have any of these items of clothing on when 107 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.600 these crimes occurred, because if that's the case, they're going 108 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.000 to be able to find the DNA on the clothing. However, 109 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.879 like I've said several times, I don't think that Brian 110 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:40.560 Coburger has the clothes anymore. If he is the person 111 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.199 the government's telling us he is, then he got rid 112 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.279 of all of those clothes, right, he got rid of 113 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:47.560 the knife. Why would he hold on to any. 114 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:48.079 Of that stuff? 115 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.800 That would just be absolutely insane. And if he had it, 116 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:55.680 well where is it? They rated his apartment, they raided 117 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.240 his office, they rated his parents' house, and they have 118 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:03.000 his car. So unless he has it hidden in the cloud, 119 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:08.000 chances are he already ditched it. While the warrant application 120 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:12.279 specifically asked for permission to seize and search Coburger's devices. 121 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:17.800 The inventory have seized items doesn't mention any However, investigators 122 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.279 did note in their filing that his cell phone appeared 123 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:25.160 to be in the vicinity, so that's pretty interesting. They 124 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.480 haven't said that they've seized a cell phone yet, and 125 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.240 we have seen the warrant from his apartment, and now 126 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:33.759 we have seen the warrant from when he was arrested. 127 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:36.439 So did they not seize a cell phone from him? 128 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.720 I find that hard to believe. I guess maybe with 129 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.639 it being in the vicinity here, that's something that they 130 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.480 could have swooped up as well, given probable cause. 131 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.759 But I can't confirm that. I don't know one way 132 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:49.240 or the other. 133 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:51.399 So that's going to be something we're going to have 134 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:53.560 to try and figure out and get a little more 135 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:57.160 context on as far as if a cell phone or 136 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:02.920 an electronical device besides the comput was seized. Coburger is 137 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.920 being held in the Lata County Jail in Moscow, Idaho, 138 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.720 without bail. He faces four counts, a first degree murder 139 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.319 and a felony burglary charge. He's due back in court 140 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.839 on June twenty six for a preliminary hearing where his 141 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.879 defense plans to challenge the evidence against him. Well, you 142 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.720 can count me amongst the people who are very interested 143 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.160 in seeing how Brian Coohberger plans on doing that, considering 144 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.639 we haven't heard anything as far as anyone else who 145 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.519 could have been involved, or anything that would lead us 146 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.879 to believe that Brian Cohberger isn't the right guy. So 147 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.840 I don't know how he plans to challenge this evidence 148 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.120 against him. Obviously the basics right, Gonna pull holes in it, 149 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:50.080 gonna try and have better experts than the experts being 150 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.879 provided by the prosecution, and remember their goal is just 151 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.720 to seed enough doubt that one or two of the 152 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:01.080 jurors don't believe that Brian Coberger is the man that 153 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:03.840 the government is saying that he is. But I have 154 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:08.279 no idea how they plan on doing that. Authorities have 155 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:11.799 not publicly established a motive for the attack, but allege 156 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:15.320 that Coburger stalked the victim's house at least a dozen 157 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:19.480 times before the slayings end returned once more to the 158 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:23.120 scene hours later. And as far as motive, we have 159 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.240 no concrete evidence one way or the other. Now there's 160 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:29.159 a bunch of circumstantial evidence that would lead us to 161 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:33.159 believe that Brian Coberger was stalking at the very least 162 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.399 one of these girls. And if you add up all 163 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:40.559 of that circumstantial evidence together, it provides a pretty damning 164 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:44.440 picture for Brian Coburger. So we'll see what his defense 165 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.120 comes up with, and we'll see what kind of strategy 166 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:51.879 they end up unfurling, because Brian Coberger is certainly facing 167 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.440 fourth down and long and in need of a Hell Mary. 168 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.360 All Right, folks, that's gonna do it for this one. 169 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:01.399 Like I said said earlier, we're going to go through 170 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.960 the actual warrants themselves and add them to the catalog 171 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.720 like we do all of the other court documents. All Right, folks, 172 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:11.159 that's gonna do it for this one. All of the 173 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:14.519 information that goes with the episode can be found in 174 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:19.559 the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to 175 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:25.759 the program. Earlier we were talking about the extradition process 176 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.320 and if Brian Croberger was going to fight that extradition. Well, 177 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.480 now we're hearing from his lawyer, his court appointed lawyer 178 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:38.120 in Pennsylvania, that he won't fight the extradition and that 179 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:42.440 he's eager to exonerate himself and clear his name. So 180 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.559 today we have an article from Law and Crime and 181 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:50.159 the headline Idaho murder suspect agrees the way of extradition 182 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:54.879 from Pennsylvania, issues statement via attorney that he's eager to 183 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:59.120 be exonerated. I figured that this dude would play games 184 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:02.120 from the very beginning after he was caught and we 185 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.159 found out who he was as far as his background, 186 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.080 criminology and all of that, I thought that he'd try 187 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:10.240 and be one of these guys who thinks he's the 188 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:11.840 smartest man in the room. 189 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.000 And now he's already starting his shit. Right. 190 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:16.919 Oh, I want to be exonerated. I can't wait to 191 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.919 clear my name. I didn't do this, was anyone else arrested. 192 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.639 Seems to me that he thinks this is all one big, 193 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:34.320 gigantic game still. The author of this article is Sarah Rumph. 194 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:39.200 Brian Christopher Coberger, the twenty eight year old arrested Friday 195 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:44.000 in Pennsylvania in connection to the murders of four college students, 196 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:48.159 has agreed to waive extradition back to Idaho, but seems 197 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:51.240 poised to fight the charges, issuing a statement through his 198 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:55.200 attorney that he is eager to be exonerated, So that 199 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.679 means we should expect him not to accept any plea deals, 200 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.039 him not to give the police any kind of information, 201 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:05.679 and for him to try and fight these charges in 202 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.120 a court of law. At least that's what they're saying 203 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.639 right now. But sometimes, after you have all of the 204 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:16.200 evidence presented to you and it's very compelling, some of 205 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:18.840 these killers will try and take a plea deal so 206 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.399 that they don't have to face the death penalty. Now, 207 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:22.799 I don't know if that's going to be on the 208 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:26.960 table here. We're talking about Idaho, and chances are they're 209 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.639 going to try and slam home the death penalty. That 210 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:34.480 would be my guess. Coburger is facing four counts of 211 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.120 murder for the stabbing deaths of University of Idaho students 212 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:43.519 Kaylee Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. The 213 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:47.679 three women in, Chapin Kernodle's boyfriend, were discovered stabbed to 214 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:51.279 death on November thirteenth in the home the women were 215 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:56.320 renting near campus. On Friday morning, Colberger was arrested by 216 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.759 the FBI and Pennsylvania State Police. Arraigned by a Monroe 217 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.879 County Judge and ordered held without bail. He is a 218 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:09.000 PhD student in the Department of Criminal Justice in Criminology 219 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:14.600 at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington, just over eight 220 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:18.559 miles from the location of the murders in Moscow, Idaho. 221 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:22.039 And with him living in such close proximity to where 222 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:25.240 these murders occurred and him going to school up in Pullman, 223 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.879 he could have run into these girls anywhere, and he 224 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.919 could have came across them in a variety of different ways, 225 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:36.279 at a bar, at a restaurant, who the hell knows. 226 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.120 But with him living so close, it starts to make 227 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:41.799 a little bit more sense now as to how he 228 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.279 might have met them or seen them, or how they 229 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:50.240 came onto his radar overall, just in general, because there 230 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.600 had to be some way that he met one of 231 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.279 these girls or one of the roommates or ethan, which 232 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.679 it didn't seem like that was the case. But until 233 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.639 we have all of the facts, can't, you know, discount things. 234 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:04.799 But it certainly seems like he met one of these 235 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:08.600 girls in passing or something like that, and from there 236 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.840 he developed one of these crazy people fascinations with them, 237 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.399 and how many times have we seen stories like that? 238 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:18.639 And then I go back to all of the stories 239 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.559 we've heard about kay Lee and the stalker, and I 240 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:24.399 say to myself, is this the guy they were talking about? 241 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:30.200 According to authorities, Coburger traveled to the Pocono Mountains, where 242 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:33.279 his parents live, for the holidays, and the FBI tracked 243 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.799 him as he made the twenty five hundred mile cross 244 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.159 county drive in a white Hondai a Lantra, the make 245 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.279 and model of car that Moscow police had publicly identified 246 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:47.919 as a focus of their investigation. So this guy, who 247 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:53.120 is mister criminology over here, mister hotshot, uses his own 248 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:56.000 car to commit these murders and then thinks it's a 249 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.559 good idea to drive that same car across country and 250 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:03.399 keep possession of it. Not as bright as he thought 251 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:03.799 he was. 252 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.000 Isy. CNN reported on. 253 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:12.000 Saturday that the FBI track Coburger for four days while 254 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:16.600 police gathered probable cause for a warrant. A law enforcement 255 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:21.159 source told CNN that Coburger was identified by running unknown 256 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:24.720 DNA evidence found at the crime scene and running it 257 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:29.360 through a public genetic genealogy database to find potential DNA 258 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:31.480 relatives of the suspect. 259 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.879 Well there you go. Not as bright as you thought. 260 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.080 And even if it comes back that he was wearing 261 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.639 like some Tibek suit or he had preparations in place, 262 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:45.080 he was wearing some kind of coverall so he didn't 263 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:46.360 get blood splatter on him. 264 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:49.080 Whatever it is, none of it worked out, did it. 265 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.159 This scumbag thought he was getting away with the crime 266 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.200 of the century, and he was following along the whole 267 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:58.879 entire time. In fact, I even read an article recently 268 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.559 that he called into a true crime podcast that was 269 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:05.559 following along with the case. I mean, if he was 270 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.480 doing that, then he most certainly was following along in 271 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:12.120 the news and on Reddit other forums. Who the hell 272 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.720 knows where else he was posting. But it seems like 273 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.720 all of these sick bastards who commit these kinds of crimes, 274 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.440 these kinds of murders, they love to follow along with 275 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:25.559 it as it's unfolding in the media. Jason Allen Lebar, 276 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:29.279 the chief public Defender from Monroe County who was appointed 277 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.840 to represent Colberger in Pennsylvania, issued a statement on his 278 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:39.080 client's behalf. As reported by NBC Philadelphia, mister Kohlberger intends 279 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:43.159 to waive his extradition hearing to expedite his transport to Idaho, 280 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:47.759 said Lebar. Mister Colberger has been accused of very serious crimes, 281 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.720 but the American justice system cloaks him in a val 282 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:54.879 of innocence. He should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise, 283 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:58.679 not tried in the court of public opinion. One should 284 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.759 not pass judgment about the acts of the case unless 285 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.400 and until a fair trial in court, at which time 286 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:09.880 all sides may be heard and inferences challenged. Yeah, good 287 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.440 luck with that, Good luck with that. The whole Oh, 288 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:16.240 you're gonna taint the jury pool. No way, that's a 289 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:20.799 bunch of bs. That's archaic nonsense. Nobody's taking the jury 290 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:24.240 pool by having a conversation on the internet. Spice appear 291 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.599 and this dude right here, he's gonna get a fair trial. 292 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.079 He's gonna get to sit in front of a jury 293 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:34.519 of his peers and they're gonna render a decision. And 294 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.200 my guess is it's going to be a recommendation to 295 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:40.880 the court that they put this man to death because 296 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:46.319 what he did absolutely heinous, calculated, premeditated, and then the 297 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.440 gruesome act of carrying out these murders. This is not 298 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.640 a man who is ever gonna be rehabilitated. So why 299 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.200 bother with the nonsense, Why bother wasting any money keeping 300 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:59.039 this dude alive. Give him the death penalty and be 301 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.839 done with it. Of course, that's after a speedy trial 302 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:07.079 and he's convicted. Mister Coburger is eager to be exonerated 303 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.279 of these charges and looks forward to resolving these matters 304 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:15.079 as promptly as possible, added Labar. In an interview with CNN, 305 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.799 Labar provided additional details about his client's arrest, confirming that 306 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.799 Coburger was arrested at his parents' house in Pennsylvania and 307 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:28.839 was cooperative with police. According to Labar, Coburger's white Hondae 308 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:31.599 a Lantra was found at his parents' house at the 309 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:35.839 time of his arrest. Coburger is being held in a 310 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:38.799 single cell and on twenty four hour watch by the 311 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:42.720 guards to ensure his safety, Labar said, adding that he 312 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:48.400 has recommended psychological testing for his client before the case proceeds. Well, 313 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:52.720 that's probably a good recommendation. Somebody murders four people as 314 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.440 they're sleeping in their bed, it's probably a good idea 315 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.240 for this piece of garbage to sit down with a 316 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:04.359 mental health professional and see what's what. Lebart noted that 317 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:08.480 the scope of his representation of Coburger was limited to 318 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:11.839 the extradition back to Idaho, and he did not really 319 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.559 know much about the case and didn't want to discuss 320 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:18.039 the case with him because I'm merely his representation for 321 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.559 this procedural issue. So that means he's not his lawyer, right. 322 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:25.759 This is the guy that's been appointed to him in 323 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:29.200 Pennsylvania as his public defender. So this isn't a man 324 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:32.480 who's going to follow him and go on and be 325 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:33.440 the trial. 326 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:34.400 Lawyer in Idaho. 327 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:37.400 He'll have to get a public defender in Idaho or 328 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:39.640 he'll have to pay for a lawyer out of pocket 329 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:44.640 if he's able to do that. The probable cause affid David, 330 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:49.079 which includes the evidence supporting Coburger's arrest, remained sealed under 331 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.680 Idaho law until he returns to Idaho and is served 332 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.640 with those papers in court. According to NBC News, at 333 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:01.000 that time the document will become public. Now it's still sealed, 334 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:04.960 and once he's extradited and he sees a judge in Idaho, 335 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:09.279 then those procedurals, those will get unsealed and will get 336 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:13.079 a good nice look at the charging document. The warrants, 337 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:18.319 all of that stuff. The attorney also told CNN that 338 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:21.799 it was an easy decision not to contest extradition because 339 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.400 he doesn't contest that he is Brian Koberger. And it's 340 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:29.200 as likely that law enforcement have location data from his 341 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:32.640 cell phone already putting him on the border of Washington 342 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.920 and Idaho. See, that's pretty decent work by the lawyer here. 343 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:40.519 He doesn't commit to anything. All he's saying is, look, 344 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.519 you might have some cell phone data of my client 345 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:47.559 because he lives in Pullman. Now we all know that 346 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:52.079 that's a pretty weak alibi and pretty weak defense, but 347 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:54.880 that's what they're gonna roll with because that's all they have. 348 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.720 So they're gonna say, hey, look, my client was in 349 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:02.000 this area because he lives there. Labar said he has 350 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:06.920 recommended that his client be psychologically tested before court proceedings. 351 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:11.400 He described his client as very intelligent and shocked a 352 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.680 little bit, yes, shocked he got caught, and as far 353 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.160 as intelligent, I mean, I guess. But one thing I 354 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.359 do know for sure is prison is littered with people 355 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:25.640 who thought that they were way too smart to ever 356 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:31.519 get caught. Coberger's parents were also very shocked, said Labar, 357 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:34.440 who spoke to them for about fifteen or twenty minutes 358 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:38.119 on Friday evening and was told it had been real 359 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.640 shock and awe to have the FBI and police at 360 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.480 their house at approximately three am knocking on the door 361 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:45.680 to arrest their son. 362 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:46.279 Yeah. 363 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:48.960 Can you imagine the shock of the families of these 364 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:51.839 kids who were murdered. So while I'm not, you know, 365 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:55.039 gonna sit here and put the blame on this dude's parents, 366 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:58.240 but I don't have any empathy. Old boy was at 367 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:02.720 your house, he committed for allegedly, so the cops had 368 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.720 to come in and kick in the door. NBC News 369 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:12.759 interviewed Jordan sarah Lunk, a brewery owner in Pennsylvania near 370 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:17.119 the college where Coburger received his undergraduate and master's degrees, 371 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:21.759 who recalled his former patron causing problems for female staffers 372 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:25.319 and customers. And if he was doing this here, you know, 373 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:28.480 he was doing it up in Pullman and wherever else 374 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:33.160 he was hanging out. Saral Nick says Coburger came to 375 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:36.640 his brewery a few times and female staff would often 376 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:40.799 complain about his behavior. Sarl Nick said the brewery is 377 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.599 located in a college town and it's not unusual for 378 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:47.680 them to get unusual characters. But he remembered Coburger from 379 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:50.839 some interactions he had had with female patrons and staff. 380 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:54.519 He said, Coburger often came by himself to sit at 381 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:59.119 the bar and be observing and watching. And when you 382 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.599 look at that in hind site, knowing what we know now, 383 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.720 it certainly makes sense and fits the profile. Somebody like 384 00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:09.960 this out here staring at women, probably fantasizing all kinds 385 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:15.359 of crazy, wild shit, and those fantasies he ended up 386 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:21.400 enacting them and making them realities. In Moscow, seral Nick said, 387 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.160 staff scans everyone's IDs, and they have a system where 388 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.839 they can add notes about a patron that pop up 389 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.680 whenever the idea is scanned. So when you scan the 390 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.279 idea and it has you know, a spreadsheet or whatever, 391 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:35.960 and you can go in and you can put notes 392 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.960 next to the patron's name, and that way that your 393 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:42.599 security or your bartenders or whoever know who they're dealing with. 394 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:44.920 And it's a good way to keep an eye on 395 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:49.000 troublesome patrons, especially in smaller towns, right like college towns. 396 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:51.279 You know, you got the ruffians. People want to come 397 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:54.599 in and fight act. The fool always get into inebriated. 398 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:57.200 Whatever it is, you put it in the column, and 399 00:23:57.240 --> 00:23:59.640 you already know what you're dealing with when you go 400 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:04.000 and put up their id. Staff put in there, Hey, 401 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:06.720