WEBVTT 1 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.600 Hey folks, it's doctor Scott and I'm doctor Shiloh. 2 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:35.000 So recently I was a guest on the Strictly Stalking 3 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:38.359 podcast where I talked about the early days of responding 4 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:42.359 to stalking cases from my first responder perspective, something we 5 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.119 really haven't shared much about before. 6 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.799 Jake and Jamie over at Strictly Stalking were so generous 7 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:50.600 that they ended up running our eroto Mania episode on 8 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:53.159 their feed, and of course we wanted to return the 9 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:56.200 favor by highlighting one of their earlier episodes that features 10 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.679 a firsthand, non celebrity case of erotomania. 11 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:05.000 Because yes, this absolutely does not just happen to famous people. 12 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:08.560 And in this episode, they interview Kristin Pratt, who was 13 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.519 stalked by a former high school classmate convinced he was 14 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.719 destined to be with her. After bombarding her with bizarre 15 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.959 and increasingly disturbing YouTube videos, he even started showing up 16 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.319 on her college campus and at her workplace to harass her. 17 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:26.920 Strictly Stalking has an incredible catalog of stories like this, 18 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.640 so definitely go give them a follow. We're sure we'll 19 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:32.280 be collaborating with them again soon. 20 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:07.359 We need to. 21 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:11.039 Talk face to face I've been sent on a mission 22 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:14.199 to make Kristen Pratt feel warm and fuzzy. 23 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.039 Email me today. It's up to you now save your 24 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.520 own life. You don't want me for a life, Kristen Pratt. 25 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:24.479 That's a very very earn the wives decision. 26 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:28.680 Because I was like, I'm gonna die. This guy is 27 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:33.199 going to kill me. The police don't care. They are 28 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:37.080 obviously not here for me. UCS please. They're doing the 29 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:38.879 best they can, but who knows what they're gonna be 30 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:42.599 able to do outside of uc SUD it happened. So 31 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.560 I need to protect myself because I'm gonna die. This 32 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.759 guy's gonna kill me, and I need whatever looked into 33 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.080 this case to know exactly who did it where to 34 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:55.319 find that evidence. And so I had a full heroic 35 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.240 computer where I saved all the screenshots of all. 36 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.120 The messages, all the videos I met from you. 37 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:05.520 I named it police look here, Oh well cap, so 38 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:09.039 that there was no doubt in anybody's mind and they 39 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.439 had a place to start because I just I was 40 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:13.479 just kind of counting down the days and tho it happened, 41 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.120 and I lived my life as normal. But I just 42 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.319 wanted to make sure that when I when, because there 43 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.759 was a when for me at that time. When I 44 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:26.280 did encounter Patrick but it didn't go my way, then 45 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:31.199 I had some kind of evidence that it was happening. 46 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:49.759 Kristen Pratt aka KP travels the world searching for innovative 47 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:53.840 ways to better communicate with others and manage challenging situations. 48 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.360 In college, she was contacted by a former high school 49 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.000 classmate through Facebook who began harassing her online. 50 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:02.039 So she was so for years before getting an injunction 51 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:03.759 and putting him behind bars. 52 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:07.000 Now, she works with law enforcement and victims' rights advocates 53 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.599 to fight for change on how the judicial system handles stocking. 54 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.719 And its victims. I'm Jamie Beebe and. 55 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:13.840 I'm Jacob Tulam. 56 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.319 On today's episode of Strictly Stalking, We sit Down with KP. 57 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.240 Her story has been featured on Good Morning America, Nightline, 58 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:21.959 Inside Edition, in Crime Watch Daily. 59 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.480 I had what was called a dueling moment where you 60 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.439 take college classes and high school classes at the same time, 61 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.279 and the college classes replaced your high school classes that 62 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.959 you get credit for both. And when I was in 63 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:41.079 the classes, that's where my stalker met me. We maybe talked, 64 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:45.240 I don't know two sentences the whole time, and it 65 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.519 was a semester, so three months I barely talked in 66 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.600 And then when I went to college, he found me 67 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.759 on Facebook. This is about probably that two thousand and seven, 68 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.199 and so I was in college two thousand and six 69 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:00.199 to two thousand and sevens I think it's only are 70 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.439 part of that year, my freshman year, and I got 71 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:08.240 a message from Patrick, really nice message, like it wasn't 72 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.839 anything out of the ordinary, and so I responded to it. 73 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:18.920 And after about two or three messages, they started getting 74 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.040 really weird, like really weird things that you would never 75 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.720 hear a normal person say, Like he would say, I'm 76 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:30.279 the Lizard King, and just like these weird things about 77 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.560 sitting on a bench and watching women walk by. And 78 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.480 he would write these paragraphs or essays, and then some 79 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:41.040 of the messages would be maybe a sentence lung, and 80 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:46.040 they would be coming in so rapidly, minute after a 81 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.279 minute after minute, I mean the timestamp on some of 82 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.120 these messages they were within the same minute. It was 83 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.680 crazy how quickly he was just sending me these messages. 84 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.839 Then within like I would say, less than a week, 85 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:06.040 he would he started sending me massive amounts of Facebook messages, 86 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:10.160 so it was really isolated to Facebook at the time. 87 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:15.720 And then he got my phone number and started calling 88 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:19.439 me on my phone, and so it happened pretty rapidly. 89 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:22.040 I mean, it takes up scene. Once he started going 90 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.680 it was quick, and I thought if I could ignore 91 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:26.560 it for long enough, he would go away. 92 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.319 But he didn't go away, and so I. 93 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.920 Remember, I think it was like October of two thousand 94 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:35.160 and seven. So I gave him a long time to stop. 95 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.600 I told him, please stop contacting me. Don't ever contact 96 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:45.360 me again. This is not okay, and he didn't. He 97 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.120 just kind of added fuel to those fire. I mean, 98 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:52.759 later on, we found out in the trial, the evaluation's 99 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.000 mental evaluations he had to go through that he had 100 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.399 what was called a Latto mania, which basically meant that 101 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.839 it didn't matter what I told him. Actually, if I 102 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:03.480 told the stop, it was in his mind me putting 103 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.839 an obstacle in his way so he could prove his glove. 104 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.079 And so it really didn't matter whether I said anything 105 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.319 or didn't say anything. He was trying to prove his glove. 106 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.000 He thought he had to, and that I was That's 107 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:15.759 what I wanted. 108 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.720 After he started sending these messages. He started escalating and 109 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:21.839 showing up physically near you. 110 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:27.759 Right, Yeah, So he would hitchhike to my campus in Florida. 111 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.079 I went to the University of Central Florida, so nice 112 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:35.879 in Orlando, Florida, and he would hitchhike to Orlando. Sometimes 113 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:38.160 he brought his bike, sometimes he did it. But he 114 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:42.560 would just walk around the campus at UCS. And I 115 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.560 had seen him plenty of times with fem all the time. 116 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.279 And when I saw him, usually I would just leave. 117 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:50.439 I would just leave the campus and get to my 118 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:55.879 car and go home. But I did after a while 119 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.560 decided that maybe I should go see the UCS police, 120 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:02.079 And so I went to the UCS police and they 121 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:07.240 filed well, they filed a trust passing were I guess, 122 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:08.839 I don't want to say I guess it was, but 123 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.680 it was it was UCS States. So it wasn't like 124 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.240 a trust passing Christmas and where he's like, hey, just 125 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.279 don't come on to UCS property. The problem is is 126 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:22.680 that they didn't really do anything. Like I love UCS 127 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.360 and I loved their police department. I don't want to 128 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.920 talk bad about them. I don't think they knew what 129 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.079 to do in this situation, and so I think what 130 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:34.759 happened was because of the last of situations like this, 131 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.519 because I was being cyber stocks at this point and 132 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:42.159 there was stocking involved. It was mostly cyber stocking, though, 133 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:44.279 so even though he was coming to campus, he couldn't 134 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:47.960 directly get to me, and so I think in that way, 135 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:51.559 it was difficult for UCS police to understand or fully 136 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.879 grasp the situation. So they did this trust acting more, 137 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:59.039 but they hadn't contacted Patrick. I gave them the phone number, 138 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:01.519 but there wasn't really anything they could do if he 139 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:03.600 didn't answer the phone. He didn't answer the phone. It 140 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:06.440 wasn't like they could serve in the papers, and so 141 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:09.600 I had to trespassing word. But I still saw him 142 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:13.679 on campus, and when I called the UCF leaf. UCF 143 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.480 is so big, it's such a huge campus that by 144 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:21.559 the time the UCS lease came, he was gone. You know, 145 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.519 well I was gone because I didn't want to stay 146 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:27.480 around and hang out with my stalkerd As being around, 147 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.799 and so it was it was a very difficult situation. 148 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.440 They did eventually call Patrick and leave a message on 149 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:38.960 his machine, but it didn't help. He was still coming around. 150 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.200 I mean, I didn't think it was going to help anyway. 151 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.639 He called me while I was a working at a 152 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.039 pizza across the street from UCS. Is not there anymore, 153 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.320 but it's somewhere else. It's called lazy News TUSA, so 154 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.679 called your landoe people. You know where that's at, says 155 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.759 working at laziness And I got about well, I would 156 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:06.039 say forty two phone calls from Patrick. Well, one was 157 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.759 for my mom, but forty one of them were from 158 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:11.200 Patrick in about a four to five hour shift. 159 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:14.120 I called the police that night. 160 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.960 I had all these messages of him, like breathing. It 161 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:22.000 was really weird. I had recognized his number, obviously, because 162 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.000 he called me a few times before that, and I 163 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.360 picked up and really realized it was Patrick, so I 164 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.840 recognized the number. But when the police came to my house, 165 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:33.200 I said, about four o'clock in the morning. Four o'clock 166 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:35.799 in the morning, maybe five somewhere around there. So it 167 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:37.360 was really early in the morning. 168 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:41.600 I could understand where a police. 169 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:46.919 Officer would not want to maybe not intentionally want to 170 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.799 be helpful, but I think it was just I mean, 171 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.919 anybody coming off with any shift or that early in 172 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.679 the morning might not be at their best and so 173 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:02.600 she basically brushed off. She said, is there anything? Does 174 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:04.799 he know where you live? Is there any way he 175 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:06.320 can get to you physically? And I was like, well, 176 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.039 he doesn't know where I live, but he's been coming 177 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:11.799 to campus. I go to that campus. He's been walking around. 178 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.159 Eventually he's gonna run into me. I'm going to run 179 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.480 into him. I already have like this is a problem. 180 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:23.440 But what she knew about the laws of stalking and 181 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:28.440 what I didn't know about the laws of stocking created 182 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:32.840 this barrier of what was perceived to be able to 183 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:33.200 be done. 184 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.960 How quickly did you tell your family once you started 185 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:37.159 getting these messages. 186 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.879 I didn't really tell my parents right away. I told 187 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:42.639 my roommate and I told the people that were closest 188 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:45.639 to me, which I thought was a strategic move because 189 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:50.200 if anything happened, or if he did find out where 190 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.559 I lived and came into the house, and at least 191 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.840 my roommates knew what was going on people I work with. 192 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:01.039 But I think I told my parents about October of 193 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:04.799 two thousand and seven, when I finally said no to Patrick, 194 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.759 like stopped contact dad, And I think that's when I 195 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.320 told them, And I remember my dad being like, why 196 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.639 history wait this? Well, I think really it was just 197 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.600 I don't know. I feel like a little bit of 198 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.240 it with shame but feel and a lot of it 199 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:25.600 was just my very independent nature in general. I thought 200 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:27.919 I had it under people. I thought I could handle 201 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:32.360 it myself. And I think that happens often. You know, 202 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:35.000 you don't realize it's happening, and I think in a 203 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:38.320 lot of stocking cases, it does ramp up pretty quickly, 204 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.120 but you're almost in like this denial, like, Okay, you 205 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:45.159 let them in that first time, you were friendly enough 206 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:49.240 to see that way with them, the first time you 207 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.080 can let something slide, and then after a while you 208 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.639 realize that, wow, I flied a lot of stuff slide 209 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:58.840 by now. And I think when you look back at it, 210 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:04.720 you realize the breast of what has happened to you, 211 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:10.080 and you're like, hopefully crap, Like this is unacceptable. But 212 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:14.000 when it's happening, it seems wrong. It feels wrong, and 213 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:16.480 you know it's wrong, but at the same time, you're like, 214 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.679 I still have control. I still have a little control, 215 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.919 and you want to kind of believe that as it 216 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.399 goes on. And I think that's why it took me 217 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.759 so long to tell my parents because I felt like 218 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:31.320 I have control, like he eventually, he's up, Eventually it's 219 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:39.279 gonna go away, and then it just never did. It 220 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.720 was really weird too, because this was my first taste 221 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:44.399 of independence. I was just getting to college, and it 222 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:48.559 was what I've always wanted my entire life. I remember being. 223 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.720 A child, like thirteen or fourteen years old. 224 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:52.159 And I was just like, I can't wait to leave 225 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.559 for college. I can't wait to leave. And so for 226 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.399 me to go to college and immediately have someone basically 227 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.679 control my life in such a way whereas I didn't 228 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:08.320 feel fully and completely independent like I've wanted my whole life, 229 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:14.360 was really really hard to accept. And so when I 230 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:18.320 finally accepted it, it took a while for me to 231 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.799 get there. I guess it's the best way to put it. It 232 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.799 just took a while for me to go, all right, no, 233 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:27.759 it's time to look at this the way it should 234 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:30.679 be looked at. This is a problem. You can't be 235 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:34.960 at the library studying and then have to leave because 236 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.960 somebody said they were at the library too, Like that's 237 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.399 not okay, and you shouldn't allow this. 238 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:43.440 In your life. 239 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:50.360 And so you have that fear that something's going to 240 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:53.440 happen to you, but you also want to live, you 241 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:57.240 want to exist, and especially as a college student, I 242 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.799 wanted to do those college things. I wanted to go 243 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:01.720 to parties. I wanted to hang out with friends. I 244 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.559 wanted to have a study groups. And it's just those 245 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.799 two things I was trying to make work together, and 246 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:13.279 they just weren't. I couldn't emotionally handle it, and I 247 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:17.000 couldn't handle it physically. As like a safety precaution, I 248 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:20.639 couldn't do it. And so I think I think it 249 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:23.039 took me a while to kind of get there and 250 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.240 be like, all right, you know you are in danger. 251 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.039 You know this, You've known this for a while, and 252 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:35.639 you can't continue to live the life you want while 253 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.360 also fighting this battle. You have to figure this out. 254 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.320 And yeah, so it took me a while to get there. 255 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:49.879 I started telling my friends pretty early. 256 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.360 Mostly because they will allowed me all the time. 257 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.000 Like I said, so it was more of a safety. 258 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:58.000 Concern for me because not only did. 259 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:00.720 I want back up, but I also wanted to make 260 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.639 sure they stayed safe. I don't know if he you know, 261 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:06.000 I don't. I didn't at the time. I didn't know 262 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.039 much about stalking, so to me, it's like, all right, well, 263 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:10.320 if you stoking me, you just stop other people as well. 264 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:16.000 And so I was like, I don't want them to 265 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:22.919 encounter Patrick and then you know, him charm them, or 266 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.159 him become their friend and then they get stucked or 267 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.600 what was worse for me was just him hurting us 268 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:36.159 in some way, And so I told them pretty early. 269 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:40.519 It started with my roommate and then branched out from 270 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:44.840 there with friends, but also a lot of my friends 271 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:50.159 ended up finding out through Facebook because after a while 272 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:54.480 he started making YouTube videos and he sent he went 273 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:58.039 down my Facebook list of friends and sent every one 274 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:03.519 of them ah to D links to my videos and 275 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:08.480 then they like, oh yeah, this guy Patrick, these videos 276 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.319 are really disturbing. You need to watch these what is 277 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.960 going on? So it was kind of forced to tell 278 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.279 a lot of my friends before I was ready to 279 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:22.680 tell anybody about what was going on, because they were 280 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:27.200 finding it out from Patrick himself and seeing very warped 281 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.160 and twisted YouTube videos and what were. 282 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.000 The videos, like, what was he saying? What was he doing? 283 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:41.359 Oh my goodness, A lot of them were different. One 284 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:43.720 he was naked, he was lying on the bed, with 285 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:48.119 a pillow over his private and it was just him 286 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.000 lying on the bed naked, and he wasn't saying anything. 287 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.720 But YouTube kind of has like these little little blurbs, 288 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.119 or they used to, I don't know if they still 289 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.160 do anymore. He would write out these full sentences of like, 290 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.519 if you know Kristin Pratt, let her know that I'm here, 291 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.920 I'm not going anywhere. Look me in the eye. And 292 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.240 then some of the blurgers would say my boyfriend's name 293 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:19.640 at the time and talk about him being a coward 294 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:24.359 or being whatever. And then some of them just like 295 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.519 those that was just one video, and then one of 296 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:31.920 them would be at UCF campus and he'd be sitting 297 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:33.559 in front of a wall and I was like, that 298 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:37.559 is UCP. I know that, I know that campus, and 299 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:43.119 she'sd be yelling about communicating with him. And just look 300 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.359 me in the eye. He always said that, just look 301 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:49.160 me in the eye. We need to talk face to face. 302 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:52.880 I've been sent on a mission to make Kristin Pratt 303 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:54.839 feel warm and fuzzy. 304 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.680 Email me today. It's up to you now save your 305 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:01.240 own life. You don't want me for a life, Kristen Pratt. 306 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.720 That's a very, very earned my wives decision. 307 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.880 And then one of them not to get to graphics. 308 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:15.960 But one of them he was touching himself in the 309 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.200 video over his pants. Felt thankfully I didn't have to 310 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:21.839 see too much, but that was one of them while 311 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.839 he repeatedly said my name. That was probably one of 312 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:28.480 the more disturbing ones I had ever watched. And then 313 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.319 this really weird one. Now, this has been going on 314 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.880 for some time, so my friends all knew about it. 315 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.319 They were keeping tabs on it. They were all subscribed 316 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:39.480 to this video channel. 317 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:41.279 And we are at my. 318 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:44.759 Friend's house for a Super Bowl party and we're sitting 319 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.680 on the couch and somebody goes, oh my god, Patrick's 320 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:50.359 posted a new video. So there's like four people on 321 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:52.559 the couch and four people behind the couch. 322 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:55.839 Watching this video, and its computer is, you know. 323 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:56.680 Speeders on my lap. 324 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:01.799 And Patrick goes in the video and you and you 325 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:02.759 and you. 326 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:05.440 And you, like he was talking to all of us, 327 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:10.440 like separately, plaining to each persus. I mean, obviously there's 328 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.799 no way for him to have known that's going to happen, 329 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.440 but it was such a coincidence, and that's probably freaked 330 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.359 me out more than most things in the entire world 331 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:21.880 have ever freaked to be out? I was just like, 332 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:23.839 we all just looked at each other and we were like, 333 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:25.920 all right, we're done for the day. Just close this 334 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:26.839 computer down. 335 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.720 It was just very weird, But at. 336 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:36.440 The same time, it was a blessing in disguise because 337 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.359 I was able to pretty much pinpoint where he was 338 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:41.839 at within a few days because he was posting them 339 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.319 so frequently, I was able to kind of have that 340 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.680 flag crumbs trail. So if he was at the laundromat 341 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:51.079 across the street from US, yes, I saw that, and 342 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.400 I knew he was probably in the area. If I 343 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:58.119 saw him and it looked like he was at US, 344 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:00.640 which is University's Florida, which is where he was supposed 345 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.759 to have gone, then I was like, all right, then 346 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:06.960 for the past few days, he's there. If I thought 347 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.440 it was a house, then I knew he lived in 348 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:15.359 lust or Loose, I guess in Florida, So I knew 349 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.160 he was pretty much about two hours away. So I 350 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:22.079 was able to kind of gauge where he was by 351 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.680 watching these videos. So as crappy as it was to 352 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:30.039 have to emotionally go through watching these crazy videos where 353 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.960 he's addressing me in such a way it helped me 354 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:35.960 kind of keep tabs on where it was at so 355 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:41.480 would I could stay safe. 356 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.440 So basically he was stockpiling all his evidence or your 357 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:48.519 evidence that you needed to present this. 358 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.519 I wapped all of the YouTube videos. I screenshotted all 359 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:57.400 the messages because he sent me messages on YouTube, on Twitter, 360 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:01.519 on Facebook, the screenshotting all of those, saving all of 361 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:05.599 the YouTube videos, and I just kept those on hand. 362 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:08.359 After the police woman came to my house the first 363 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:14.039 time after the PEACEIA, that was when I really knew 364 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:15.680 that I was kind of on my own as far 365 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:20.599 as legal concerns fors and so I I mean that 366 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:24.759 early I think that was, oh wow, that was before 367 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:29.000 October twenty seven. So I had already started kind of 368 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:31.559 stockpiling that because I was like, I'm going to die. 369 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.400 This guy is going to kill me. The police don't care. 370 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.599 They are obviously not here for me. UCS police, They're 371 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.480 doing the best they can, but who knows what they're 372 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.039 going to be able to do outside of uc after 373 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.759 it happened. So I need to protect myself because I'm 374 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:50.359 going to die. This guy's going to kill me. And 375 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:54.880 I mean, whoever looked into this case to know exactly 376 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.759 who did it, where to find that evidence. And so 377 00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:00.880 I had a full narrowment computer where I saved all 378 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.279 the screenshots of all the messages, all the videos. I 379 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:08.319 worked from the YouTube I named it police Look Here Caps, 380 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:12.720 so that there was no doubt in anybody's mind and 381 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:15.200 they had a place to start because I just I 382 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.359 was just kind of counting down the day until it happened, 383 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:20.000 and I lived my life as normal, but I just 384 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:23.039 wanted to make sure that when I when, because it 385 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.640 was a when for me at that time, when I 386 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:30.200 did encounter Patrick, if it didn't go my way, then 387 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:35.079 I had some kind of evidence that it was happening. 388 00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:42.920 When did you find out how severe his mental condition was? 389 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:43.000 Like? 390 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.680 When did you start getting those records after you took 391 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.240 the evidence to the police. 392 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.799 So I already had a pretty good grasp on his 393 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:58.720 mental capacity after he started sending those really weird messages, because. 394 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.759 They were really weird, not to get. 395 00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:04.240 Disgusting, but in one of the messages, he said, I 396 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:06.319 am the spawn of Satan and I want to give 397 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:10.759 you your Satan's firms. That's not something I don't think 398 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.920 that's anything that someone in their right mind would say 399 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.640 to someone they don't really know very well. But yeah, 400 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:22.079 so I was pretty well aware of not the not 401 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.079