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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here

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shit Qus, your source of information and analysis to help

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you win your fantasy hockey league.

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Speaker 2: Block off hot a step hit on, Staylock.

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Speaker 3: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno gonnes.

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Speaker 4: See Hockey Live back once again, living in the moment,

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Living in the moment of world. Junior's dominance is myself

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Fan Tracks is Jesse Severe and that there Victor Nunio

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Speaker 5: How you doing, Victor, I'm doing pretty well, Jesse twenty

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twenty five, welcome me with a pretty lingering cold from Christmas.

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So I'm struggling over here, but I sound better than

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I did on the last podcast with Pete, so I

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think my voice manned trying to recover.

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Speaker 4: Go back and listen to this week's Gaber Prospects Report, folks,

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if you want to hear Victor gutting through it. It

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was I always make reference to the Michael Jordan flu game,

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but never was it more appropriate than Victor carrying himself

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pure will. But yeah, Victor, No, you're sounding good, buddy,

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and you're back and ready to roll into the new year.

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You were flying down hill, skiing the other day, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the flu day was actually the two

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days I had to ski. It was like the two

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days that I had outlined, and I felt horrible. I

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definitely would not have skied if I hadn't outlined those days,

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but I ended up feeling pretty It was fun, but yeah,

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I definitely crashed afterwards and finally.

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Speaker 3: Got some rest. So yeah, it was a good time.

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It was beautiful out there.

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Speaker 5: One day was really snowy, the other day was really clear,

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so it was good to get a little bit of both,

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but good to get out there and do something different.

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Speaker 4: We got the polar vortex here in Wisconsin, but all

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the snow melted right before it and ain't many hills,

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so there are places to ski in Wisconsin, but they're

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not nearby. There's a sledding hill by my house, so

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there's always people out there sledding, But right now it's

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just frozen grass. This is the frozen tundra of lambeau

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Field weather that we got here. So it's yeah, it's

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zero degrees outside today and it's that type of deal

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where pretty much it's going to be too cold to

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have clouds. Do you ever get that in California? Victor,

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too cold for clouds is just a beautiful blue sky

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because it's too cold for any kind of moisture to

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gather up above you.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it happens the same way here, at

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least maybe in the central California.

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Speaker 3: But on the coast that's always foggy.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, all right, enough of this dilly dallying. The

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Fantasy Hockey Life Weather Report, which is a traditional opening

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of the show, you can talk about more interesting things

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than a hockey at any a Midwestern in California based

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weather report in our Fantasy Hockey Life Discord. In fact,

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there's all sorts of different opportunities for you to talk

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fantasy hockey there. We plug it at the beginning of

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every episode because we love it when we see people

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in there just having a good time. And it's not

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people are making friendships with one another. It's not just

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Victor and I chiming in. It's just people having a

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good time. And I know occasionally Victor will come in

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and say, hey, you got any ideas for articles. I

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but mostly when we have votes on trades going on.

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about to talk about. But there's opportunities to interact and

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think and see what other people's ideas are about fantasy hockey.

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So to get in that Fantasy hockeylife at gmail dot com,

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or hit Victor or myself up on X or Blue

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Life on X and Victor Nunno twelfth on X and Victor,

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you have other goodies that you'd like to offer brand

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New Year's gifts that you'd like to offer certain of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: And we will come back right after this for picture

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in me running alone into this.

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Speaker 2: Episode back in today, it's just Victor and I and

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we're talking midseason strategy.

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Speaker 4: And for this we start with a couple of questions

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and then we're gonna have a little game, a little

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segment in the second half of the show. But we

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put out the call, like we said in the discord,

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and a couple of people put in some ideas, some

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questions for us. And the first one is simple Victor.

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It's from Scott the Tour and he says, if trading

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win Now players to contenders like Sherwood and Severson are

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a couple that he has to unload. How does asking

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price change as you approach the deadline? What do you

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think Victor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a great question, and I think it's

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a bit of a game of chicken, right. You have

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your guys, you want to sell the other guy the

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contenders have they want to push their chips in and win,

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and so there's a bit of a timing sometimes as

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a contender, you want to make sure or that you

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are in the right place, that you have, that you

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are sure you can compete, that you can try to win,

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and they're usually maybe waiting for the right time for

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that to happen. Sometimes it might be early. Sometimes they

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you know, might be a few weeks out from playoffs.

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As a rebuilding team, I think the biggest thing to

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remember is that you don't have to do anything. You

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have these assets. A lot of times those assets are fine,

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you know. I remember I joined a twenty league team

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several years ago and I had Macar and Kutrov and

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Caprice off that I drafted thinking that I was going

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to be better initially, and I just wasn't and I'd

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had to retool. And people kept coming to me saying,

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I'll give you like these this first round pick, or

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these two first round picks for Kutrov or something, and

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these are contenders that are going to be like picks

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in the twenties, and was like, no, you just.

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Speaker 3: To remember that you don't have to do anything.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to trade these good guys, especially guys

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like that Koutrov caprisof several years ago. You knew they

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were going to be good for years. There's no reason

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to do anything. You can wait. You can even wait

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till the end of the season. The contending teams are

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the ones that really have to push the envelope here.

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They should be competing for these assets, and so you

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really should just wait and put them against each other

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as much as you can and just hold out for

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the price that you think is right. Sometimes you have guys,

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I know he mentioned Surewood. There's other guys who maybe

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are on hot streaks and you can wait. Sorry, you

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may not be able to wait because they might be

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cooking a little hot and you might feel like you

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have to move them.

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Speaker 3: And in that case it is hard to gauge. He

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for sure Wood, He's.

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Speaker 5: Continued a little bit, but he's someone who the questions

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are like, is he really this good?

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Speaker 3: It's hard to say.

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Speaker 5: And so you might actually on guys like that want

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to pull the trigger a little bit early. But then

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I can think of other examples like Alexi Protas right,

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like he was cooking a little hot at the end of.

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Speaker 3: The season, and he's still going. He's still good.

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Speaker 5: And so that's an example of maybe you should just

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Speaker 3: Get what you think you should get.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what it comes down to, is

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that you should decide on the price that you think

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is right. And I know Scott in this example and

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in others, has asked me. He's a patron, and so

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you can ask, like what is an appropriate price? And

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I'll give you an idea, and you can ask in

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the discord, you can ask other people, but get a

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gauge of what you think is a good price and

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just stick to that.

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Speaker 3: I know, Jesse, you're really good at this.

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Speaker 5: You decide what you think is fair and you're just

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not going to change your mind until you get what

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that victory. That is right. I have a

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lot of thoughts on this whole situation, and really depends

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on the age and quality guys. I can get back

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in the situation I'm expecting to be in next year.

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You've got to be very realistic at this point the season,

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when your next competitive team is going to be and

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where your players are going to be when you get there.

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And there is the thing is you think I'm going

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to sell high on Sherwood and I'm going to sell

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high on Sieverson. But in a league like the Tidy,

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for example, where it's a key forever, you are playing

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with people who probably aren't going to get sucked into

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these things the same way you would hope that some

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teams are going to want to pay for something. And

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there's a lot of times when, like with a Sherwood

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or a Severson, there's one scenario you turn him into

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a protash. Yeah, if you can get a protash and

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you can buy high on him, I did it frankly

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in our home league last week, and I paid up

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for him because when people are always going to say

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it's because I'm a Caps fan, but no, I've been

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watching him. This guy's legit. He's going to keep on.

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I don't think this guy's a flash in the pan.

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I think this is a guy who's figured it out.

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doesn't throw a lot of hits, he is a great

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kind of Nephork guy, and he's really fitting into that offense.

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twenty nine years old. This is really only his second

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year getting full time stuff. Sure he would be a

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nice sell high. Everybody knows it. Everybody in your league

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is gonna know that. Surewood would be a is probably

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not a guy who's going to sustain. So there I

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tend to find. We always talk every podcast, every fantasy

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podcast talks about, yeah, sell high on these guys, get

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rid of them before their value follows. I don't know

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who these people are playing with. The tidy managers, the

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people we have around on the tight they're not going

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to buy into that. You're not gonna get much at all.

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a level. Okay, So here's where I'm going with this.

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There's a level of unsustainable. There's a level of turning

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a waiver wire guy into any kind of asset that

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you can carry forward. That I'm pretty much always willing

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to do. But there are other guys who you have

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to figure out where you're going to sell, and when

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you're going to sell. Look, what I find is the

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psychology is not there for getting a very good price

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like that. If there's a situation now, it's completely different

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in like a salary or a keeper league. All right,

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that's a completely different situation where you can only keep

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so many players, I'm sorry, or a contract league where

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you can only keep players for so many years. If

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you have a guy who's expiring for this year, you

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literally are going to have nothing at the end of

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the year, in which case, exp your valued return can

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be much lower. Anything that is going to be something

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for you next year is literally worth more than nothing.

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But I am like I said, Let's say I'm in

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a situation where I'm not competing and I have a

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guy whose contract is expiring, or I have a guy

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who I'm not going to keep for next year. There's

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no way Surewood is not going to be on a

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keeper list. If I'm in something like that, then I

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know I'm in a situation where I'm about to lose

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this guy for nothing. But so do the sharks out there.

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They're going to act like they've got leverage. My least

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favorite thing to see in a trade offer is you

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have to trade this guy. But you have to trade him, No,

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I don't. I'm going to be difficult just because you

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said that. Man, I'm going to be a jerk just

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because you said that, I don't have to do anything.

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I remember there was an NHL GM and I really

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wish I could remember the scenario, but it were coming

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up in the trade line. I kind of swore it

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was like Pittsburgh or I can't remember what team it was,

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but they were coming up on the trade deadline. It

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was the guy whose contract was going to expire, he's

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going to become a free agent, and everybody was talking

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about this GM's got to trade this guy. And in

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the end, the GM just didn't. And he said, nobody's

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going to give me everything, anything at all. And so

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I'm not going to just fold. I'm going to show

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people for next time that I'm willing to I'm building

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up leverage for myself by proving I will do I

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will just hold this guy if you're going to totally

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low ball me for this league. So you get that

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reputation as a manager that people can't get stuff from

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you for free, you have to be willing to take

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your ball and go home. The other piece of this

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that I think is worth talking about here is the

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only trade you're going to be able to get is

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a trade from somebody who's willing to make it with you,

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if that makes sense. It's not that what is this

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guy worth, it's what partner is going to trade for

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them and what assets do they happen to have that

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is really important in the severe storms, the FHL original dynasty,

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the two dynasties that we have. I traded I believe

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it was Alex Ovechkin last year. I knew I wasn't

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going to compete this year. There's a chance to me

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that after this year or next year, well, Vechkin's not

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in the NHL anymore, so he really does become something

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who's as of last year. I traded him last year.

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His value is going to decline, and it is going

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to be he is not going to be a contributor

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to my next successful team. And his value was never

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going to be greater than it was last year, because

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he obviously had last year, by definition, has more years

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left in the NHL than he ever will at another time,

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and I traded him for everything I could get. The

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problem is the people who are willing to buy on

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expensive older guys are the winning teams, And like you

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said before with the Kucharov deal you were offered, they

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are going to have the worst picks. Sometimes you're gonna

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get lucky. Maybe one of them has a lottery pick.

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They're gonna hold onto it like it's their baby. They're

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not gonna be willing to part with it. But it's like,

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the teams that I would like to target in a

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league are the ones that are overperforming and are hoping

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to scrap their way into a playoff berth. But legitimately

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they could end up in the middle of the league.

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Maybe they're they've just gotten lucky in the head to

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head format, or they've had a lot of guys who've

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run hot early in the season, and I look at

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their roster and I'm like, yeah, that's not going to

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keep up. That's really all things mean equal the trade

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partner you want. The very top teams in the league

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are often very depleted in their prospect pool. It's not

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often they're gonna have future assets. If they did, they

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probably wouldn't have a great pro roster because they've already

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done some of those things. So it's very difficult I

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know I'm talking all around this, Victor, but this is

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a very flush topic to me because we're really we're

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talking this is the Dynasty game in a nutshell. How

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do you figure out a way to sell these is

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just one part of this, this whole thing. Any thoughts

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about this word salad that I just threw out here.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is, like you said, no,

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you don't have to do anything, you really don't.

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Speaker 3: I hear that so much.

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Speaker 5: Oh, these guys aren't going to be helpful for me

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in my windows, so I have to And it's like

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this urgency and it's no. First of all, like you said,

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take stock of when you're going to be good and

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decide if that player is going to be helpful. But

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you don't have to get rid of them today if

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you decide that he's not going to be helpful for

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you in your windows.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes think about the timing.

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Speaker 5: I think that's one of the biggest things is don't

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just think about your situation, think about everyone else's situation.

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When is the timing best for that player to be moved?

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Is it often I hear this at the beginning of

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the season or before the Christmas break, or think about

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when it's best. Oftentimes those teams that are pushing their

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chips in do so now or in the next month

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or two, right, and so it's best to wait until

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this time of the year, the fantasy season to get

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that offer that you want. If you would have traded

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one of those players in you know, like October, you

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might not have gotten the best deal because that team

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may not have known that they were going to be

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that competitive or or if they're going to The biggest

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thing though, is if you think you're getting the right price,

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then I don't think it's ever bad to make that deal.

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Some people have wonky ideas of what the right price is,

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and we can have discussions about that, but really think

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about what the best appropriate price is. And we'll talk

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about this a little bit more later, but definitely be

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careful to get just magic beings for a star player.

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Speaker 4: And one other thing on this ficture if you're trading

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with a win now team. If you're trading with win

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now team, always get picks further out for them. If

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you can get picks four years from now from them,

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get it. We're playing the long game here in dynasty,

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and if you have a team that's topping out now

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and in two years, all these old guys are gonna

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go downhill. They might have a good draft pick in

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four years, and that's where I want. I don't care.

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I hope everything's still going in four years. But what

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are you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely, here's the next one.

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Speaker 5: Which type of prospects do you try to bundle to

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obtain higher end prospects or young NHLs?

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Speaker 3: And how do you do it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? This is hard because nobody trusts a multi for

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one offer, and nobody trusts it. It goes against everybody's

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fantasy instincts to say you're trying to trade me three

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guys for one, because it almost always seems like a

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bad deal. What I've run into, for a scenario in

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multiple of my leaks is I've gone into the phase

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where I try to acquire a whole bunch of players,

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and suddenly I realized that my whole minor system is full.

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Maybe some guys who are still in the minors are

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on my active roster, and I've got a bunch of

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draft picks coming up. What the heck am I going

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to do? This happened in our home league, and that's

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why I propose a I'm going to propose a five phase,

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and I'm gonna flash this at more as we get

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over I started. I said two phases in my notes,

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but it's a multi phase process. The first phase of

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a build up is just acquire talent, just whatever talent.

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I don't care what the position is, I don't care

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what the I just want the best players available. If

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it's five centers and I don't have any goalies yet, fine,

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because I can deal with that later. And then the

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second phase of the process, once you've acquired that talent,

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is trying to Winnow this down. That's what you're talking

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about here, And I think my thing is, I don't

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think you're very often going to be able to trade

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a bunch of mid players for one great player unless

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you get a team that really it's a very deep

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league and you get a team that maybe doesn't value

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that player. I feel like you have to get a

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couple of players for one who's not that much better,

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or two guys that are maybe perceived as an even swap,

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but you think his guy is better than your guy,

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and maybe you can throw in a lower asset to

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get it. So it's almost like you're almost making a

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lateral move. But you're using your depth of prospects to

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try to grease the wheels with more of a long

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shot guy, especially for a team that doesn't have a

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whole lot of prospect depth. For example, I'm trying to

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think what if it was what was the what was

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the actual trade victor between the Jets, and it was

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Brandon Yeager and Wrecker McGarty that went in the preseason

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in the real NHL, if some people might have viewed

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those as relatively even sides even in fantasy. I think

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at that time I liked Recker McGarty better. I'm not

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sure whether I would today. Maybe you would trade Yeager

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plus a depth goalie Ar tur Akimov from the Maple

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Leafs to get McGarty at that time. Is that a

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deal you could have got done? Maybe? And that's where

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you're looking at two guys maybe who are a little

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bit more of a coin toss, but you're winning down

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your prospects by doing that. The other thing I'm trying

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to do in phase two, after I get talent acquisition,

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then I'm starting to focus on position weaknesses. If I

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don't have defenseman coming up, I know that's not good.

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I want to get a good defenseman. I want to

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get a goalie who's actually going to have a shot

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at having something, because I probably usually you end up

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acquiring forwards or maybe goalies in an early stage and

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then you're trying to winnle those things down. So those

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are some things I'm looking at when I'm trying to

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bundle the prospects and get myself concentrated a little bit

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more of that. I think this is one of the

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very difficult thing to do when you're dealing with savvy gms,

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is to get a better prospect for lesser prospects. Victor,

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what do you think.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, certainly the quality of the teammates makes a huge

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difference in doing this, And I think this is where

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you think about what kind of league you're in. Certainly,

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if you're in like a buddies league and they don't

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they're casual, you can rip people off. And if they're

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your buddies and they're going to be in the league

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no matter what, then I guess that's one thing. But

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I always try to have this be a bit of

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a win. But I always this is how I think

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of it. I think of prospects on a scale of

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one to ten, and that's how I set up my ranks.

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Five is an average roster player on your dynasty when

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you're in your competitive window, basically replacement level, a guy

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that you could probably find in your on waivers, and

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of course cap and category situation that might change a

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little bit. A ten is someone who never comes off

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your bench. Conor McDavid, Austin, Matthews, Croll, Caprice off Kutrov,

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Guys like that Cail mccarr and six, seven, eight, nine

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is in between there. Six is just about average, seven

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is pretty good, eight is really good, and nine.

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Speaker 3: Is just below that superstar level.

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Speaker 5: So in general, if you can bundle two sevens for

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an eight, it's probably worth it that roster consolidation of

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having one better player that taking up a one roster

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spot instead of two. Certainly, if you could trade like

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two fives for seven or an eight, that would be amazing.

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That's less likely. Sometimes you have to give to get

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a little right, and so that's something to think about

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whenever you're doing a two for one. I would always

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suggest making two for two. If you want one guy

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who's clearly better, offer two guys that are a little

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bit worse and then ask for one guy back who's

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clearly worse, and so that might make it seem a

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little bit more fair, and then you can try to

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fill in the gap there or negotiate to something that

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seems more reasonable. All of these ranks and everything is

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league dependent. You really need to know your league. You

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need to know your league and your league mates. You

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need to know where your team is, where the other

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teams are positioned, all of that, all of that needs

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to be clearly understood. What the categories are, what categories

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you're doing well in, what categories or points that you

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need to beef up. So that needs to come from

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a place of clear understanding, like where you are in

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the league, are you a middle team bottom? And what

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categories you're good at? And do you have a legitimate

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chance all these kinds of things. So you have to

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take into account project ability, which my ranks do. I

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like the percent right, So for a seven is not

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just a seven. A seven point ninety nine is essentially

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a lock to be a decent amount above average player

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on your team. If it's a seven point one to oh,

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00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:19,599
that's a ten percent chance of hitting their upside. So

479
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,720
that means someone who's pretty unlikely has upside but is

480
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,279
unlikely to hit it. Sometimes you need to take a

481
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:28,039
guy who's a little bit more secure to make it

482
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:31,759
for a makeup for a guy with upside that doesn't

483
00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:33,920
have much chance. And sometimes you might want to do

484
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,319
the opposite. You might want guy with a big upside

485
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,839
for a guy who has a secure floor. It really depends.

486
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,119
You really want a blend of these two things. You

487
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,119
don't want too many guys that are just all upside

488
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,920
and no chance of actually hitting it. Imagine if you

489
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,039
had a roster or minors roster full of Ryan Murkley's

490
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,160
that would not have worked out so well for you.

491
00:24:56,319 --> 00:25:00,319
Huge potential but boombust as opposed to guys who have

492
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,400
a super high floor but maybe aren't as don't have

493
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,359
the huge upside like an own Power might be a

494
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,279
good example of that. You could tell right away he

495
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,759
was going to be an NHL or but what's the upside?

496
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,400
Maybe not as high. So you need a blend of

497
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,359
those guys. And so you have to look at your

498
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,160
team too and say, do I have a bunch of

499
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,240
boom bust guys and I need some more security guys

500
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,240
that are actually going to be playing on my team

501
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,480
in a few years, or do you want or do

502
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:27,079
you have a whole bunch of guys that are just

503
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,400
high floor, secure guys and maybe you need to trade

504
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,240
one or two of those to get some more upside.

505
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,279
You need a blend because you can't just have all

506
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,119
of everything. You need to expect that some of your

507
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,319
guys are going to bust out. But if you have

508
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,920
all high floor guys, then you're going to all those

509
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,440
guys are going to make your roster and you're going

510
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,519
to be just very average. That's not going to be

511
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,000
very helpful either. You need a blend of that. And

512
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,720
you know, you really have to know your league. I

513
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,759
think that's the key. You need to know your team

514
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:54,039
and your settings and be able to rank these So

515
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,880
if you're not good at ranking them yourself, then you

516
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,839
can use things something like my ranks or get it,

517
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,680
you can use your league setting to rank things.

518
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: But for prospects, that's where I.

519
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 5: Think it really gets hard, is that it's not always

520
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,680
so easy to rank what someone is going to be,

521
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,319
and that's what I try to do in my ranks.

522
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,759
Speaker 3: Any thoughts on that, Jesse, Yeah.

523
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: This is a fascinating thing and I hope It's something

524
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:22,200
that people really understand with the puckstud ranks as they're

525
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,440
looking at if you have access to Victor's FHL or

526
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,640
Victor's ranking stuff this business. That a seven point one

527
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,160
and a seven point nine in some sense are both

528
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,039
projected to be a seven, like I said, but the

529
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,519
difference with those decimals is not that one player is

530
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:46,880
going to have more performance the other. It's that there's

531
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,720
a greater likelihood that they achieve the seven level of performance. Right,

532
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,200
And one thing I've that might be worth explaining for people.

533
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:58,640
So like you talk about a seven point nine versus

534
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200
a seven point one seven point nine as a ninety

535
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,519
percent chance of meeting the seven. A seven point one

536
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,000
has a ten percent chance of meeting that, but is

537
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,000
probably more likely to end up a six or a

538
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,880
five or something like that. They're a boombust or maybe

539
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,759
nothing at all. Maybe they've got that high upside, but

540
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:18,200
they could fall off. How likely is a seven point

541
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:20,599
nine to end up being an eight, for example, to

542
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,839
overachieve that level or is it just that a seven

543
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:28,119
point nine is the owen power who's not going to

544
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,440
end up Erasmus Dollin, He's not going to end up

545
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:35,000
a superstar type defenseman. He's just going to be a

546
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:38,480
real solid contributor, but he just doesn't have the upside.

547
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:41,000
It's a seven point nine, in other words, less likely

548
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,119
to become an eight in some ways than even a

549
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,960
guy who might have a lower percentage.

550
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question, and I think that's that's

551
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,880
where I really try to think hard about this, because

552
00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:57,279
it's not always so easy. I try to think about

553
00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:01,720
the player and whoever, if they are really likely to

554
00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:06,400
be that seventy ish point player or seven out of ten,

555
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,319
then I'll keep them at a seven. But I think

556
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:10,839
if there's a chance that they have upside beyond that,

557
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,559
then I will give them an eight, even if if

558
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:17,200
it's a small chance of that. I think an example

559
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,279
of that would be like Adam Yerchek, who I struggled

560
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880
a little bit with. I had him at a low

561
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,559
percentage of being an eight because I still I thought that,

562
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,759
and I still think that he could be that all situations.

563
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:33,519
Bash Master decent pretty good points, like fifty plus point potential,

564
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,519
but I'm not sure that it's super likely, and it

565
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,920
seems like it's becoming less likely as we go on.

566
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,000
So he's an example of someone who would have a

567
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:45,680
low percentage chance of being an eight, does that mean

568
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,039
that he's a lock to be a seven. Not necessarily,

569
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:51,240
because he could even fall below that, But I still

570
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:52,599
think he has that upside.

571
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

572
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: I think that's a really gray line, and someone like

573
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,319
Quentin Byfield is someone else who I struggle with that

574
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,240
kind of thought process. But that's where I try to

575
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,960
really think about that and say, is this what is

576
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,039
the most likely thing?

577
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: Do they have upside?

578
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,759
Speaker 5: If they have upside, even if it's smaller, I'll try

579
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:14,160
to bump them up to the next level. But if

580
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,119
they're just super secure and I don't think they have

581
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680
much upside, then I'll put them at a high percent

582
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,640
of a lower number.

583
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

584
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:24,319
Speaker 4: So that's something just to keep in mind. If you're

585
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,480
looking at some of these ranks. You have to wrap

586
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,960
your mind around that. But it is very valuable to

587
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,799
be able to wrap your mind around that. So it's

588
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,880
nice that is represented there. Victor. Our third question that

589
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880
we got today, how do you value trades in Dynasty?

590
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,440
If you're contender trading picks and prospects for a win

591
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,720
now player and vice versa, if you're rebuilding.

592
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, this is the beauty of dynasty. I

593
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,519
always look for the win, as I said at the beginning,

594
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,400
and I think it's way easier to do in dynasty.

595
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,279
I think just about every dynasty trade can be a

596
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:57,680
win because you have teams and players in different situations.

597
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,680
Even if you're close in the standing, you can still

598
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:05,640
give different things picks, prospects, post type sleepers, young players

599
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,599
who haven't quite realized their potential, guys who are underperforming.

600
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,960
We see these kinds of massive trades all the time.

601
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,960
You can move four or five pieces each way, and

602
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,200
both guys can be pretty happy with what they got.

603
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,160
Sometimes you're just frustrated with someone on your team. That

604
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,920
Adam Fox is someone who's driving me crazy right now

605
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,559
is it's not doing anything. Basically all the New York Rangers

606
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:26,920
are like that. But yeah, I think that if you're

607
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,559
a contender that you want upside, you want some security

608
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:36,200
that you don't trade Nathan McKinnon for five round or sorry,

609
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:38,119
that's not if you're a contender. If you're a rebuilder,

610
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
you want some upside, you want some security. You don't

611
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,680
trade Nathan McKinnon for five first round draft picks. That's

612
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:47,119
just a bag of magic beans. That's not really ideal,

613
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,440
but you could trade him for some draft picks, a

614
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,039
blue chip prospect or too, maybe a young player or too.

615
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,960
Basically you want a blend of that upside and security.

616
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:01,319
I think the biggest problem is if you just trade

617
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:06,079
like Nathan McKinnon for I don't know, someone like Gavin McKenna,

618
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,480
which I think that's maybe a little bit more debatable

619
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,640
because he's looks like he's going to be a star.

620
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,920
Or maybe you trade him for some blue chip prospect

621
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,000
that you think is going to be really great, maybe

622
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,640
like a Berkeley Caten. Maybe that's a better example because

623
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,599
he looks great, but is he at the same level. No,

624
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,720
like a one for one there is probably not ideal, right,

625
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,319
and even McKenna might not work out to be quite

626
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,640
as great. So it's just that it's that upside where

627
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,799
you could get blinded to say, oh, this guy's going

628
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:35,640
to be just as good in five years, So maybe not.

629
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,480
So I think you really need some security with that

630
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:41,839
high upside. And so that's why I think if you're

631
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,079
going to trade one of these superstars, you need multiple

632
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,000
assets getting coming back, and you need something that's both

633
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:51,319
secure and has high upside and On the other side,

634
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,160
if you're a contender, I think this is easy. You

635
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,680
just push your chips in and cry yolo. I've been

636
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,160
doing this for years in our Common League, where I've

637
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,960
won three championships and the team.

638
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,079
Speaker 3: Is pretty depleted. I think the biggest thing there is

639
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:05,319
that you just have to.

640
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,039
Speaker 5: You have to work hard to have assets that people

641
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,559
might actually want from you, and right now I don't

642
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,359
have too many good prospects, and it becomes a bit

643
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,599
of a challenge to maintain relevance. A lot of my

644
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,799
team is very old, but they're still kicking. I think

645
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:25,960
I'm in fourth place right now, still competitive, and you

646
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:26,640
have to make some.

647
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:28,319
Speaker 3: Shrewd moves to keep your window open.

648
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,359
Speaker 5: I have guys like Crosby, I have the Carlson and

649
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680
j Kopitar, so some of those guys are old, but

650
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000
I have guys like Sam reyn Hard and Miko Rontinen

651
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,799
to keep that window open. Tom Wilson, who's having a

652
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:46,599
resurgent season, Vasilevski, I think that's the key. But I

653
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,880
think you really have to draft well, draft guys that

654
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,920
can have some upside, like I got Carson Raykoff a

655
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160
little bit later, Calum Ritchie, a little bit later in

656
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,000
the draft I was able to acquire and mel Andre

657
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,759
trek Parasaka is someone a guy a little late get.

658
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,559
Stein Soldberg make these draft picks of guys that might

659
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:06,599
take a little bit longer but have some upside, and

660
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,160
then when they pop off, when they're Draft plus one

661
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,599
or something like that, you might be able to trade

662
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,599
them or something like that, which I have been able

663
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,240
to do. I think several years ago I got a

664
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,119
scar off really late. I ended up flipping him. I

665
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:21,079
think I ended up. I think I flipped him for

666
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,920
Crosby if I remember correctly. That was a couple of

667
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,359
years ago. Oh, you have to work really hard to

668
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440
keep your window open. But I think when you get

669
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,039
to the point where you're competitive and you're pushing your

670
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:34,079
chips in, you just don't care. You just get whatever

671
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:36,920
you can if they're older or whatnot, and you just

672
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240
you do whatever you can to keep that keep your

673
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,240
window open. And I think the harder thing too, is

674
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,640
then trying to decide when are you too old and

675
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,559
non competitive that you got to rebuild, which I keep

676
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,400
thinking I'm coming to, but it hasn't happened quite yet.

677
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,799
It's right around the corner. For that team than I think.

678
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: The hard part and I kind of referenced this in

679
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,200
the last section, but the teams who are going to

680
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,000
try it, like, if you have Nathan McKinnon, what can

681
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:12,119
you realistically trade for him? It another team is going

682
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,280
to sweep in and be like, man, I really would

683
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,800
love to get McKinnon on my team to be able

684
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,519
to compete, But the teams that are going to go

685
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,480
all in for him probably are not going to have

686
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:25,679
the draft assets that you want. They can throw as

687
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,880
many first round picks. A team that's going to win

688
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,519
a championship can throw almost as many first round picks

689
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,159
as they want for me for McKinnon, and if they're

690
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,880
their own first round picks, I no, I can't do that.

691
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,079
I think of the again, the original Dynasty League for FHL.

692
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,320
I have McKinnon and I have a soon to be

693
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,679
four and eighteen. I'm in a rebuild and I've traded off,

694
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,800
as I said, several of my better players. I really

695
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,480
rebuilt a prospect system from not a great position into

696
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,320
you know, I've got a reasonable prospect system. Now it's

697
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,559
on the come and what it's going to have to

698
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,719
be one of the top teams that's willing to part

699
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,880
with almost one of their top players, plus the best

700
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,719
of their prospect system. But a lot of these teams

701
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,360
just don't have any prospects left. I have teams come

702
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,719
to me in Dynasty in multiple different sports and say, boy,

703
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,760
i'd really like to get this guy off you, and

704
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,559
I look at the roster. I say, there's literally nobody

705
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,960
on your roster that I would like better than the

706
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,159
player that I have here. I don't know what we're

707
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:28,840
going to do because you could almost throw as many

708
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,480
your entire prospect system in. All your picks are not

709
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:35,599
worth this player for one thing. When people are often

710
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:37,920
you bulk and you're in a position where you've already

711
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,920
maximized your roster spaces, you'd be like, I can't even

712
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,320
fit these guys on my roster right now. You're trying

713
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,079
to offer me junk for and I know it's the

714
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,920
only thing you have is this junk, and you're willing,

715
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,559
you're being very giving, but you don't have the ponies

716
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,320
to get this done. And I've had to turn people

717
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,920
down multiple times before because they just don't have anybody

718
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:01,320
is going to be of use to me. All their

719
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,719
players are thirty years old. All of their picks are

720
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,280
going to be what they have are going to be

721
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,599
at the end of the round. All of their prospects

722
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,480
are marginal. Sometimes you just have to tell people it's

723
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:13,480
just not going to be there. And when you talk

724
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,880
about let's start it out with, how do you value

725
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,400
these trades in dynasty if you're contender trading picks and prospects.

726
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,119
One of the problems with dynasty ranks generally now we're

727
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:26,599
getting past prospect ranks here right, because we're really talking

728
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:30,239
about win now players in picks prospects is there needs

729
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,039
to be somebody should come up with, and better not

730
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:36,199
be Victor, because Victor you don't have time for this.

731
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,280
Two sets of ranks, a set of ranks for the

732
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,280
rebuilding teams and a set of ranks for the win

733
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,840
now teams, and that has value. I've seen this in basketball.

734
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,599
There's a site called Basketball Monster that is two different

735
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,039
sets of ranks, one for the rebuild, one for the

736
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:55,599
win now and what's going to perform this year. But

737
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:59,159
one of my favorite dynasty voices in football, Matt Waldman,

738
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,039
puts out report every year and he has two sets

739
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:04,519
of ranks, one for the team, one for if you're

740
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,519
trying to win this year twenty four to twenty five,

741
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:09,800
and then he has a second set of ranks for

742
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,079
twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven. Keeping my football, these

743
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:16,639
guys they just don't last long. In football, the careers

744
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:20,119
are shorter, so you can make it that way. In hockey,

745
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,159
you'd want to put something further out. And then there's

746
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,719
annotations that he puts on this. People are underrated, high

747
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,920
risk reward, guy who would have to get a shot,

748
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,480
maybe a guy with specific talent. There's all kinds of

749
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,320
little designations that he puts in there to try to

750
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,480
do it. We all know this is the complicated thing

751
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,960
to do, and it's the thing. Nobody really does this

752
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,239
that I have seen. Maybe somebody's stop me if you've

753
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,440
seen this in dynasty hockey, but I haven't seen it

754
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,199
on the major ranking websites. It's just a very difficult

755
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,360
thing to do because even you call it dynasty rankings,

756
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,639
and what are you talking about, because dynasty teams are

757
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,400
in win now for him two. Theoretically you could look

758
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,960
at redraft ranks versus dynasty ranks, and if we all

759
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,679
define dynasty ranks, is what's happening in five years, that

760
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,480
would be one thing, but I think we define it

761
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,239
multiple different ways, and that's why it's very difficult to

762
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,760
compare apples and apples. And like Victor said, there's so

763
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,280
many ways to get a win trade in Dynasty, but

764
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,159
you almost need to be really working on two different

765
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,880
sets of ranks. And if I could look at the

766
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,840
win now ranks and trade you the twentieth best player

767
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,840
for the twenty twenty eight ranks twentieth best player, that

768
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,760
should be a win, right. We should both get what

769
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,800
we want, and they should be ranked very differently, But

770
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:41,400
it's something that people are trying to do in their

771
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,000
head and trying to approximate instead of having in a

772
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:52,800
very sort of rigorous way. And if you'd like to

773
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,519
make these ranks, reach out to Victor in the discord

774
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,400
or by email and you can create them for us

775
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,840
and we'll put them on our website and sell them

776
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,400
back to you. What do you think, Victor, Yeah.

777
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: All I heard was you trying to give me more

778
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,840
work during that whole segment. That's what I heard.

779
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:11,039
Speaker 4: I'm trying to say this and hope you go earmuffs,

780
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:14,000
because I don't want you to start this Victor you'll, yeah,

781
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:14,880
we can't do this to.

782
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,199
Speaker 6: You, man.

783
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,679
Speaker 5: You know what I'm thinking that made me think of

784
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,159
is instead of a whole different list, which I think

785
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,719
is a cool idea, but you could almost create like

786
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,880
a filter through which you can analyze your team. So

787
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,159
you can just apply like I'm a rebuilder, and it'll

788
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:34,960
just apply some modifier that will filter the numbers through

789
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:38,000
your lens of where your team is at. That might

790
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:39,840
be an easier way to do it if you could

791
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440
figure out a cool formula that would do that for you.

792
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:47,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there are there are sites like road a

793
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,039
Wire you can do this. I think you might even

794
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:52,880
be able to do it for hockey if you're paid

795
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,199
on road a Wire. I know Dynasty RS you can

796
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,280
do this for football where you can import all the

797
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,599
rosters automatically and it will jecked standings and it will

798
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:06,360
tell you realistically what you are in this league versus

799
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:11,000
where you may be in January because of underperformance, over

800
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:15,239
performance wherever, and get you on the right track. But yeah,

801
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,119
there's there there could be tools designed to do this,

802
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,199
tools that will be as good as our expectations of

803
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,239
who guys are going to be in a few years,

804
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:32,360
which of course are very imperfect, but nonetheless, so anyway,

805
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,480
that is the answers the questions we have. We're going

806
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:37,760
to come right back and do a little exercise here.

807
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,159
It's the Skid Game. Did you miss it. It's been

808
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:58,280
a couple of years, but now the Squid Game is

809
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,039
back on Netflix. I feel in empowered and I've been

810
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,400
wanting to use this theme song anyway again for a

811
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,800
couple of years. And the Skid Game, we're gonna do

812
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,440
the Express edition. We're gonna do the home edition today

813
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,519
because in the old days, what Skid Game was is

814
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,119
I did an in depth breakdown on somebody's dynasty roster,

815
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,960
and we really tried to get into what could you

816
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,400
do here? What do you really have here? But I'm

817
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,719
going to try and I'm making these rosters up. We

818
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,039
are going to I'm gonna put like the highlights of

819
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,679
somebody's roster up here, and then Victor and I are

820
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,800
going to decide whether this is a full board sell

821
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:38,960
selling opportunistically, whether we're staying the course, buying opportunistically, pushing

822
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,679
in chips. We're gonna say these are fairly standard twelve

823
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,639
teen points. Just do that in your head. It's we

824
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,599
all know goals and assists will be big. We'll also

825
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:50,719
include that they'll be shots and blocks and hits included

826
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,960
somehow in goalie categories. Victor, are you up for this exercise?

827
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,079
Can we do this on the fly?

828
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:59,599
Speaker 3: Do you think? Yeah, let's do it. It's back. I

829
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:00,559
think it's good time.

830
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna say Team number one, we're gonna

831
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,960
say that the top mature pros on this team, they've

832
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,599
got Austin Matthews, Sam Bennett, Sidney Crosby, Drew Dowdy, and

833
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:17,960
Andre Vassilevsky. The top young pros will be Connor Zerry,

834
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:22,400
Jack Hughes, Dustin Wolf, and Joseph Wall. And we're gonna

835
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,119
give them top prospects Yvon Demidoff, Tanner Mullendyke and Ryan Leonard.

836
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,719
And then we'll say that the rest of their starting

837
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:38,880
roster is above average, slightly above average, the guys that

838
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,760
is not like it drops off to nothing after these

839
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,079
guys that they've got a decent roster around them. They

840
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:49,239
will have some Sherwood Severson types to sell, as we'll

841
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,760
call them, based on the questions in the first section,

842
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,360
and they've got their own future picks still available. So

843
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,519
if you had a roster like this, Victor, what would

844
00:42:58,559 --> 00:42:58,840
you do?

845
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,119
Speaker 3: I have a heart.

846
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,039
Speaker 5: Time not wanting to push my chips in if I

847
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,599
see guys like this. I think part of it is

848
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,239
you look at some of the assets that you have,

849
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:15,119
and I think that but you could probably turn a

850
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:18,760
lot of these assets into some really good players. Now

851
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,159
you have some elite players at each position. I don't

852
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:24,920
know about defense, but you got Dowdy when he comes back,

853
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,400
should be pretty good. I think that's a big thing

854
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,599
that you're missing. But you have Matthews, you have Crosby,

855
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:33,920
you have Assilevski, you got some pretty good young players.

856
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,639
Jack Hughes is pretty elite. You got some other goaltending depth.

857
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,559
You really need some defense. Could you turn Ivan Demidov

858
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,440
and Ryan Leonard into some pretty incredible win now pieces.

859
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,519
Speaker 3: I think you could. I think you could get multiple

860
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:50,679
win now pieces.

861
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 5: For that, and maybe with some of the other guys

862
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,320
that you have, maybe you could get some depth. So

863
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,679
I would probably think really hard, but that The thing

864
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,639
that might be hard about selling Demodov and Leonard is that.

865
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: They're pretty ready.

866
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 5: They should be available next year, and so I would

867
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,920
really be looking at that. If I thought that I

868
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:18,840
could get, you know, I'm an elite forward, someone close

869
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,800
to what Matthews can be, like apries off Er, you know,

870
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,000
someone in that top tier forward Demodov. If someone, if

871
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,679
a HABS fan, was willing to give me that, I

872
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:29,039
would probably take it Leonard.

873
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: I think Leonard is great. I think he's phenomenal.

874
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: But I would probably take you know, someone really good

875
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,920
now in place of that, because I think Leonard is

876
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,079
still going to take two three years to hit his

877
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,199
full potential in the NHL. I think I'd be willing

878
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,559
to do that. I would be pretty.

879
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: Interested in that.

880
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 5: I think you also would probably be okay waiting with

881
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,719
this team right as team those guys, at least a

882
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,360
couple of those guys. The prospects are going to be

883
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,440
available pretty soon. Talent Tanner Muhlandyke isn't a to do it.

884
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,960
You need You definitely need some high end defense. That's

885
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,639
the biggest thing I think this team needs. So could

886
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:08,719
you turn this? Could you turn to get a top

887
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:12,440
defensive prospect out of one of your other guys or

888
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:14,920
picks or something. I think if you can do that

889
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:16,840
and push your chips and it might be worth it

890
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,599
or if you can't quite get exactly what you want.

891
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:21,280
And I think this is one of the situations where

892
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,920
you may examine multiple deals and see if you can

893
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,679
get everything you want, then maybe you do it, and

894
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,000
if you can't, then maybe you just hold off, because

895
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,719
if you can't get all of those things, it might

896
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,159
be better just to wait a little bit.

897
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: I yeah, I think you're I would agree with your

898
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,039
thought process here. I note that in again making up

899
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:46,119
these rosters, I note I stacked this team with centers Matthews, Bennett,

900
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:49,599
Crosby and Hughes. You got the center problem here. Hopefully

901
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,239
you've got a util slot that you can get them

902
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,719
all for in at the same time. But yeah, the

903
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,840
defense is weak, and so is the wing. Really you

904
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,840
can get Zeri in on the wing in summably, you've

905
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,719
got some good pro Like I said, you've got fungible

906
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,880
pros who can go up there. But with Demodoff and Leonard. See,

907
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,519
this is the type of deal. If I had dry

908
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:13,519
Sidle and I was a bad team and I just

909
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:16,840
had to I was looking, can I sell a Demodoff

910
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,360
Leonard first round picked? That's the type of pick I'm

911
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,760
hoping to get. That's the type of return I'm hoping

912
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,280
to get if I got a guy like that. So

913
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,880
maybe one of the bottom dwellers in your league would

914
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,719
be willing to do something like this. But with Crosby,

915
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,960
Dowdy and Vassilevski in my top end, this team's not

916
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,559
gonna last forever. You're gonna lose a lot of value

917
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,239
within the next couple of years, so it is a

918
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,800
tough one. I'm with you on going for the all ins.

919
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,800
I don't know if the Sherwood Severson's are worth selling,

920
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,119
except if I had to make roster spaces for other things.

921
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:53,880
But I don't know why if you perceive these guys either,

922
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:56,039
either of these guys aren't valuable enough for you to

923
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:58,719
have them on your roster, which it seems like if

924
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,480
anybody could use, it's you looking for the slightly above

925
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:06,679
replacement players and probably looking at waiver wire guys to

926
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,800
fit in around these big guys, so that I don't

927
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,599
know that there's much selling going on there. My future

928
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,199
picks are fully up for grabs to try to win

929
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,039
right now, because I think I'm still going to be

930
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:18,559
good in a couple of years, and maybe the guy

931
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:21,519
who's if I trade look if I'm on the other

932
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,840
side of this too, If I see that a team

933
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,199
is relying on guys like Crosby and Vassilevsky, I'm thinking

934
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,800
to myself, one of their first round picks in three

935
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,599
years might be juicy. That might be even if they

936
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:39,280
have Matthews and Hughes at that point, they might be

937
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,199
falling off somewhat, and I might be able to if

938
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:44,960
I get Demenof and Leonard, that first round pick becomes

939
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,000
more valuable in a couple of years than it is

940
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:50,320
right now, because that's going to weaken this team in

941
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,719
the future. But yeah, I think I'm pushing in chips.

942
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,559
I'm seeing if I can turn some of these super

943
00:47:56,599 --> 00:48:01,199
elite prospects into a super star winger. Like you said,

944
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,880
Kaprizov would be great. I would love to get Kaprizov always,

945
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,199
but especially in a scenario like this. So, yeah, Victor,

946
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,440
I think this one is a win now team. This

947
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:13,159
first round of the skid game goes to win now

948
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:19,440
second team, Victor, here is the second. Then I'm gonna

949
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,519
set up again my fund, just making this stuff.

950
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: Up as I go.

951
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 4: The top mature pros. We're gonna have Jack Eichel Brady Kachuk,

952
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:33,079
Drake Batherson, Jacob Chikrin, Jacob Markstrom, and Igor Schustjerkin, who

953
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,119
I spelled wrong in this document. And the top young

954
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:39,199
pros are going to be Dimitri Vankov, Simon and Evanson,

955
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:43,400
Dustin Wolf again, Joseph Wall again, and Matt Vey Mitchkoff.

956
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:46,360
I'm gonna give them and the top prospects. I'm going

957
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,559
to give them all the Swedes, Victor. Let's just say

958
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,400
that the top swedes in prospect are all available to them,

959
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,440
including yes for Walstat. We'll give them all the Swedes, man,

960
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:58,760
that's what we're gonna do. And the other starters, we're

961
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,320
gonna have them be a little bit weaker. Then then

962
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,039
about half of them are a little bit weaker than

963
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:08,000
the first team had, and about half of them are

964
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,079
less than what you would want on a starting team.

965
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,199
And there's no sure what Seperstons types to sell. They

966
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,719
have most of their own future picks, but they're missing

967
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,239
their own first round or next year and in two years,

968
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,920
so they have a little bit their future prospects are

969
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,119
a little bit diminished except for the Swedes in their system.

970
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:29,400
What do you do with this team, Victor?

971
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: Where is this team currently in the standard?

972
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I would say they're probably a

973
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,400
fringe playoff team, just fringe, not probably like sixth place

974
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,039
in one of our one of our fourteen team leagues

975
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:45,480
or something.

976
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,559
Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty good.

977
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 5: The problem with some of these guys is that they're underperforming,

978
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:58,800
like Shastakan. Do you sell Ego Shirstiakan at this point

979
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,599
when he's having an awful and the Rangers or I

980
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:03,519
don't know. If someone's going to give you full value

981
00:50:03,559 --> 00:50:07,519
then maybe, but not for what they might think he's

982
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:10,360
worth based on this year's stats, because that's not going

983
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:10,840
so well.

984
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,159
Speaker 3: There are definitely some overachiever guys.

985
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,559
Speaker 5: Justusin Wolf is looking great, Varnkov is really kick killing it.

986
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,039
Would you sell yesper waalstat, I don't know. That could

987
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:24,079
be good. I assume this also includes Axel sandein.

988
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: Pelica, which could garner a lot.

989
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:29,039
Speaker 5: He's also both those guys are pretty close to NH already,

990
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:30,280
which is pretty exciting.

991
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,079
Speaker 3: What are the suites? I don't know.

992
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 5: Stenberg or Lindstein may not be that exciting. Maybe they

993
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:37,880
get you a little bit, but it may not be

994
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,480
too much in terms of return. And the problem with

995
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:44,079
this team that I see that I think you've outlined

996
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:45,519
well is that it lacks a little bit of the

997
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:48,239
depths to push chips in, which is a little bit

998
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,960
of the problem in terms of the picks. In terms

999
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,719
of the some of the depth players that maybe could

1000
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,400
get you something a little bit above replacement, like a

1001
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,599
Sherwood who could be your stats. But you have some

1002
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:03,920
really elite players at the top. I know you love

1003
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,199
Brady Kuchuk, he's great, and Aichel has been fantastic this year,

1004
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,360
Bathurston Chickern has been resurgent, Mark Strum looks great. So

1005
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,679
there's some really great guys at the top. And although

1006
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,960
Chickern isn't like your elite defenseman, you have some pretty

1007
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,000
good players at each position, which I think is really important. Center, wing,

1008
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:26,800
d goalie. You have a strong core. The question is

1009
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,840
can you fill out enough around it and you're close.

1010
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:32,920
Do you sell a Mitchikoff for a top of the

1011
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,480
lineup guy when he might be that next year or

1012
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:40,000
even arguably at times this year. I think that's a

1013
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:43,760
bit of a difficult question. Seemoan Edvanson, who's been looking great.

1014
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:45,920
I think the thing is if someone will give you

1015
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,199
a little bit above market value from some of these

1016
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,199
guys that are breaking in but not quite there. This

1017
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,719
is a classic example of some of these guys are there,

1018
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,559
but they're just not quite killing it yet, and that

1019
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:58,239
makes it a little bit hard for you to evaluate

1020
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,400
and for you to be as competitive as you would

1021
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,159
like to be. That's probably why your fringe playoff team

1022
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,599
and not. If Mitchkoff was what he could be in

1023
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,840
a year or two, then this team is probably in

1024
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,480
the playoffs, but you're not quite there. So do you

1025
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,039
quote unquote give up on him. It's not really giving up,

1026
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:21,639
but it's accelerating the timeline. If you're getting an immediate

1027
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,000
value upgrade without giving up too much long term potential,

1028
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,320
that's really the hard thing to do. I think a

1029
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,800
lot of people would have a hard time selling Mitchkoff

1030
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,760
knowing what he could be in a couple of years.

1031
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,320
But if you have, if you feel like you have

1032
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,840
the right assets to make these moves, and it might

1033
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,039
be worth it. I would have personally a hard time

1034
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,519
selling Jasper wallstat because I think he's going to be

1035
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:43,000
the best.

1036
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: He might be the best player.

1037
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:48,159
Speaker 5: On your team in terms of points per game in

1038
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:50,519
a year or two, maybe not more than Ku Chuck,

1039
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:53,639
but right in that wheelhouse. I think some of these guys,

1040
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,639
if you could get what they should garner you like

1041
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,440
an ego Schirstirkin. I think if you could get what

1042
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:04,920
he's actually worth, then I think, because because I think

1043
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,760
most of us and I certainly don't believe that this

1044
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,639
is going to continue.

1045
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:11,639
Speaker 3: I think, whether Drury gets fired or whether.

1046
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:14,119
Speaker 5: Something happens with this team in the future next year,

1047
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:15,840
I don't think they're going to continue to be this bad,

1048
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,119
and I don't think Sir Turken.

1049
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: Is as bad.

1050
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 5: You could probably comfortably acquire him and know that he's

1051
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,559
going to be better than he is this year, And

1052
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,039
in terms of pushing your chips in that could help

1053
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:27,840
you this year. If you moved off him and got

1054
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,800
some really great assets, you should be able to get

1055
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,800
several good skaters or good other assets.

1056
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: For him if you moved off of him.

1057
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 5: So I think this one's trickier. I think it might

1058
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,559
be you'd have to see you have to explore the

1059
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,800
deals that you could get, but I think that there

1060
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,400
might be some opportunistic selling. But I'm not sure that

1061
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:48,079
you could full boar push your chips in because I'm

1062
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,519
not sure you have all the right assets to do that,

1063
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:53,199
and you might not want to sell a Mitchkov for

1064
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,280
an Edmonson or you know, a Gustin Wolf Joseph Wall. Potentially,

1065
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,519
if you can get the right pieces then might work.

1066
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. This is definitely it's not a

1067
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:09,840
win now team. The opportunity for me, I see two

1068
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,760
things as an opportunity for this and again just to

1069
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:20,000
recap Ikeel, Brady, Kachuk, Bathurston, Chicker and Mark Strom, Shasterkin, Bronkoff, Evanson,

1070
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,400
Wolf and Wall, Mitchkoff and the Swedes and Ogrin I

1071
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,480
guess would be the other suite I can think of

1072
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:32,280
who might be somewhat well regarded there. I feel like

1073
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,559
part of what's going to go on here is my

1074
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:40,480
goalies are crazy deep mark Strom, Shasterkin, Wolf, wall In

1075
00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:45,440
wallstat is just a it's a it's more goalie than

1076
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,880
you end up needing. And if Shasterkin isn't going to

1077
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,119
get you the full value, maybe mark Strom will, especially

1078
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,880
because right now I don't mind rolling with Wolf and

1079
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,239
Wall into the into the playoffs, and with Marc Andre

1080
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:03,360
Fleury going I just I see once those starts don't

1081
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,960
have to go for the farewell tour. I got to

1082
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,400
think that Wallstet's going to be up there, so it

1083
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:17,639
might be the rare opportunity to opportunistically let yourself do

1084
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,440
a one for two trade, right other you never want

1085
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,119
to do that, except with this team you don't have depth,

1086
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,079
and so getting in a little bit of a haul

1087
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:32,199
for a Markstrom or a Wall because then you got

1088
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:35,719
the Toronto tax involved too. If people believe in Walls

1089
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,760
as that was the current future full timer in Toronto,

1090
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,840
you could probably get some good depth at the pro level.

1091
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,599
And I'd be targeting young, youngish, at least guys who

1092
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,639
were in twenty seven year old range or so, because

1093
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:53,559
I think this team is going to compete in a

1094
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:56,880
couple of years if I can get some forward depth,

1095
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:00,840
and so I'm going to try to convert goalies into

1096
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,320
valuable above average. What would be a good example of

1097
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,320
this archetype Victor Carter ver Hagen might be aiming high here,

1098
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:14,599
guys who are pretty good forwards, not at the level

1099
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:18,559
of some of these elite guys, not ancient, but are

1100
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:22,159
going to be able to contribute positively for quite a

1101
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:26,360
while and fill in these gaps and yeah, and do

1102
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,280
it out of my goalies. That's the way that I

1103
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,079
would be looking to do this. Missing my own first

1104
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:36,559
rounder next year also gives me no incentive to lose

1105
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:38,239
this year. I may as well try to get in

1106
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,840
the playoffs. I may as well see mess around and

1107
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,559
find out so to speak, when I get there, because

1108
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:44,840
you never know if you're going to be able to

1109
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,559
pull a couple upsets and get there. Yeah, I think

1110
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,400
I'm real close. You may as well go when you

1111
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,239
don't have a first rounder next year, man, forget it.

1112
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,559
There's no tanking now. Doesn't mean you have to push

1113
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:00,480
your chips in, but yes, certainly should be set that

1114
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:02,400
lineup and see if you can screw around and get

1115
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,400
yourself in the playoffs.

1116
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

1117
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 5: That's the thing that kind of limits you with this

1118
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,039
team in terms of some of the assets that you

1119
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,159
have available to make the picks and then also the

1120
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:12,880
draft picks.

1121
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,239
Speaker 3: This is tidy, right, is that what you're saying?

1122
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's make it roughly tidy. Again, I'm not gonna

1123
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:26,360
in tidy. We have Fenwick points, we've got to give away,

1124
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,400
takeaway some of that stuff. But let's simplify down from that.

1125
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:32,679
But in the sense of the size, the fact that

1126
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:35,760
it's point based, the savviness of the managers, that type

1127
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,000
of thing.

1128
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 5: Because one of the things in Tidy that is true

1129
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,960
is that hoarding goalies can be really helpful because there's

1130
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,000
no limit to how many goalies can play during the week. Now,

1131
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,679
if all your goalies are playing on the same day,

1132
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:49,960
that isn't helpful. So what is really helpful is to

1133
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,800
have goalies on teams that play a lot of off nights,

1134
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:56,280
which I'm not so sure that your goalies do, and

1135
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,719
so that might actually be another reason to move off

1136
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:00,719
of them, but it generally can be a good strategy

1137
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,679
to have, especially like Anaheim goalies historically have had a

1138
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:09,599
decent number of off nights, Calgary, Washington. There's some other

1139
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:12,239
teams that might fall into that, but I don't think

1140
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,920
yours do, except for a wolf, But that's something that

1141
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,880
you could look at. If you could swap a couple

1142
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,000
goalies for some skaters, or maybe even one of the

1143
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:22,840
goalies like a backup who could get you some more starts.

1144
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,559
That's a real hitten gem for Tidy. But other than that,

1145
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:29,039
I really like that plan. Yeah, getting some other trade

1146
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:31,800
moving off of the Mark Strmen should get you some

1147
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,519
pretty great assets for sure.

1148
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I agree with you. You don't want to go

1149
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:40,920
too far down. You can really get yourself in trouble

1150
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,880
by having no goalies. I know, in stupid Original Dynasty.

1151
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,400
I know, I keep referring to that, but I've got

1152
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,360
two goalies right now and it's just killing me.

1153
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,039
Speaker 3: I can't. I got to pilt something back up.

1154
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: If anybody has a goalie they want to trade me

1155
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,280
an Original Dynasty, let me know. See I got the

1156
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,840
bully pulp. But I can just say that, I can

1157
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,000
put out the call for trades. Nobody's listening, but that's

1158
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:01,440
all right. Yeah you don't want to trade, I would

1159
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,360
only trade one of them, but I would be willing

1160
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,159
to trade, particularly opportunistically. I would trade one of them.

1161
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:11,199
But yeah, so Victor, that is not an all in team.

1162
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,360
But that is a team where you also don't want

1163
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,000
to blow it up. I don't think at this point,

1164
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:19,559
because you might be able to get yourself with some

1165
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:23,480
strategic trading, with some good drafting eventually because you don't

1166
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,400
have your first rounder next year, and some hard work

1167
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,119
into the waiver wire and waiting for those Swedes to

1168
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:30,719
come you might have yourself a pretty good team in

1169
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:32,280
a couple of years.

1170
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

1171
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,159
Speaker 4: All right, Victor, we played the Skid Game Express Edition.

1172
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,920
I think that's all we got for today. You have

1173
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,639
any other awards for the people.

1174
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 5: No, we got some other fun stuff coming up. And

1175
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,920
if you have some things you want us to talk about,

1176
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,960
let us know. We're always open to feedback.

1177
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 6: All right, we'll be back right after this to close

1178
00:59:52,880 --> 01:00:04,119
up the show.

1179
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: A couple of things to remind you of. This show's

1180
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:10,800
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1181
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,400
your leagues there, start your new leagues. I tell you

1182
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what you're listening to this one a Sunday, NFL. I

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expect I'm going to be able to re roll over

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my NFL leagues tomorrow Monday, and if not Monday, then Tuesday.

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Because that's how quickly they roll over the Dynasty season.

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I hear people talking about their offseason leagues and it's ah,

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there's gonna be a couple months. We can't make trades

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because we have to wait until they put this up. No,

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fan tracks, it's up right away. You roll it over.

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You have a full off season to have your fun,

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trade your picks, do whatever, you need to do. They

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can do salary leagues, rookie eligibility. I customize it. You

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want your rookie eligibility, and how can it be eighty games,

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eighty two games, five hundred games, I don't care. Set

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it up and they'll fit in your minor slots as

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long as you set that up. Fan tracks hqu has

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lots of fantasy content, including articles on fantasy hockey and

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the other sports. FAHL has a whole crew, and I

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thank them all as they do a ton of work crafts. Bryan,

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Simon and Tim are still putting in the grunt work

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making the commission happen. For the tidy leagues, there's a

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lot going on. And Jeremy v and Tony are our

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lead scouts. They get the scouting reports together. I know

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we're drumming up a whole series of them here for January.

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Brandon has done amazing work on the website. You heard

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us talking about the FHL ranks. If you want to

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see who Victor has a seven point one puck stud

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and a seven point seven, that's where you're going to

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see it. And if you've got skills you'd like to

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lend the show, Victor is there for you. Victor would

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love to hear from you in the discord email x

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Or Blue Sky, and we're brought to you by Daber Hockey,

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Dauber Prospects. Victor is and editor Peter Harlan's our good

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buddy there and records Daber Prospects Report alongside Victor. Check

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out Victor's articles that he ring Siety's part of the

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fantasy team. Cam Robinson and Mike Clifford and a cast

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of others are doing great stuff and everybody knows he'p.

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If you've been watching the World Juniors Elite Prospects app,

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it's like the number one advertiser, it seems like. For that.

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I do a show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk

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all the Dynasty Sports. This week is going to be

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part two I've been doing. I do what I call

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a city Blender series, where I talk about how I

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would rank players across hockey, football, baseball, and basketball for

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Dynasty purposes. I do the prospects, and then I do

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the pros, and I do something I call old man strength,

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which is the really old win now players, and then

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I do the mystery men, the guys who I don't

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know what to make of but they're not in the

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top rankings, but they could turn into something. I just

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can't figure them out. And this week I'm going to

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be releasing part two of the New York version, which

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is going to have nine teams, including the Rangers, Islanders,

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and Doubles. For that, if that sounds appealing to you,

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how would I write Jack Hughes up against any judge?

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Let's find out. Follow us on x A Fan Hockey Life.

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Fan Hockey Life is me Victor, and you know twelve

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is Victor Blue Sky where fan hockey the hockey sphere

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seems to really be popping over there these days. Jesse

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Severe or the One Victor with the one being a

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numeral Rate and review on Apple Pods, Spotify wherever else

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you get pods. Give us five stars and some kind words.

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We appreciate you. Hope you enjoyed this edition. Back again

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talking about some listenering questions in the Skid Game and

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until next time, people living that fantasy hockey life