Speaker 1: In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
Speaker 1: revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show.
Speaker 2: As the clock strikes thirteen, it's Thursday, the twenty ninth
Speaker 2: of January. You're of our Lord, twenty twenty six. Well,
Speaker 2: today we're going to take a look at the Ice stormtroopers.
Speaker 2: We're getting pushed back from everywhere. Sean Hannity is pushing
Speaker 2: of all things. You've got Poundeer employees are pushing back
Speaker 2: on this. Of course we've seen it from the Democrats,
Speaker 2: but it's coming from a lot of friendly fire, a
Speaker 2: lot of fire coming from real conservatives. People aren't trump cons.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we should call them, instead of neo cons.
Speaker 2: We call them trump cons are a lot worse. They
Speaker 2: don't just push for foreign wars, they push for wars
Speaker 2: against the Constitution as well. So we're gonna take a
Speaker 2: look at that as well as uh, we're going to
Speaker 2: have a close look at this assassination attempt at il
Speaker 2: han Omar. Fight, Fight Fight. The politicians are becoming so ridiculous,
Speaker 2: aren't they. And Tony Orderman is going to be joining
Speaker 2: us at the bottom of the hour we talk about
Speaker 2: what is going on with gold and silver. He know,
Speaker 2: it's more about what's going on with gold and silver
Speaker 2: folks than Jerome Powell does. He said, there's nothing to
Speaker 2: see here. Just move on. He's whistling in the graveyard.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Well we have rand paul I
Speaker 2: took on Marco Rubio talking about Venezuela, talking about an
Speaker 2: active war. You know, it's kind of interesting. We see
Speaker 2: the tactics abroad, you know, things that are supposed to
Speaker 2: help us abroad, we see them become instruments of tyranny
Speaker 2: at home, don't we? So James Madison said, he said,
Speaker 2: the weapons of defense abroad become instruments of tyranny at home. Well,
Speaker 2: that was our foreign prophecy, wasn't it. If we're going
Speaker 2: to allow for the wanton murderer of people about due process,
Speaker 2: and to put it modly, an excessive use of force
Speaker 2: for the military being used as world policeman, then guess
Speaker 2: what you're going to have other federal police that are
Speaker 2: going to be doing the same thing to Americans domestically.
Speaker 2: And that's really kind of what this back and forth
Speaker 2: was about. Is there going to be any restraint on
Speaker 2: the Trump cons Are they free to do whatever they
Speaker 2: wish and so all the fundamental principles, folks, we shouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised of this. All the fundamental principles that we're
Speaker 2: seeing here being done by the Trump cons the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: It's the same stuff we saw with COVID. The utter
Speaker 2: contempt for the rule of law, for individual liberties, for
Speaker 2: the Constitution, for the Bill of Rights. All the stuff
Speaker 2: that we saw in the last year of Trump is
Speaker 2: back again in the first year of Trump's second term.
Speaker 2: What a surprise. And so you had Senator Rampaul pressing
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio yesterday on whether Trump's actions in Venezuela, in
Speaker 2: terms of kidnapping the head of a foreign country and
Speaker 2: bringing him to the United States, was that legitimate? Is
Speaker 2: it a legitimate war? And it's kind of interesting because
Speaker 2: we see both Rand Paul and Cruse. I'm wondering when
Speaker 2: we talk about this. Rand Paul has consistently been against war,
Speaker 2: and even Marco Rubio said, well, I got to hand
Speaker 2: it to you, You've been consistent on this issue regardless
Speaker 2: of who was president. Yeah, he's been consistent with Republicans
Speaker 2: and with Democrats, So good for him. I got my
Speaker 2: differences with Ram Paul and other issues like the vaccine
Speaker 2: stuff and everything, for sure, But nevertheless, let's give credit
Speaker 2: where credit is due, and he may be lining up
Speaker 2: for another run of the presidency. Certainly, Ted Cruz was
Speaker 2: Ted Cruz in a much more cowardly way, was putting
Speaker 2: out in his own little devious way. He was putting
Speaker 2: out feelers for running for president. There were leaked secret tapes.
Speaker 2: You can put that in their quotes, secret tapes that
Speaker 2: came out of a donor meeting. You don't think they
Speaker 2: wanted that leaked deliberately. And in the donor meeting, Ted
Speaker 2: Cruz is criticizing Trump's tariffs and he says that he's
Speaker 2: not sufficiently in the camp of Israel. So you can
Speaker 2: guess who the donors were that were there, the people
Speaker 2: that Ted Cruz is pandering to. Nevertheless, we see Ted
Speaker 2: cruis doing that. He's not, you know, leaking some tapes
Speaker 2: in a speech that he gave to his donor as well.
Speaker 2: Ram Paul is taking these people on directly, and so
Speaker 2: Paul argued during congressional hearing, the Trump capturing Maduro Venezuela
Speaker 2: and his wife would be considered to be an active
Speaker 2: war if the US was not behind it. Maduro was
Speaker 2: originally indicted in the US and twenty twenty on narco
Speaker 2: terrorism charges. He's now facing trial in New York. Paul said,
Speaker 2: if a foreign country bombed our air defense missiles, captured
Speaker 2: and removed our president, blockaded our country, would that be
Speaker 2: considered an active war? And so Marco Rubio says, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I'll give you his response here. But Ram
Speaker 2: Paul says, now, I'm not saying that he didn't do
Speaker 2: these things. I'm just talking about due process. And you
Speaker 2: see the similarity here. We're not saying that these people
Speaker 2: that ICE is looking for deserve to be here. We're
Speaker 2: not saying they don't deserve to be in jail, they
Speaker 2: don't deserve to be taken out of the country. But
Speaker 2: as Sean Hannity point out and Joe Scarborough said, I
Speaker 2: can't believe I'm agreeing with Sean Hanndy on something. What
Speaker 2: they're talking about is there's ways to do this without
Speaker 2: the kind of violent escalation, chaos and thumbing their nose
Speaker 2: at the rule of law and the constitution. There's many
Speaker 2: ways that this approach could be handled. How do we
Speaker 2: get to the point where we've got to be in
Speaker 2: one camp or the other. One camp says we're going
Speaker 2: to be the United Smallies of America. Just let everybody
Speaker 2: come here and live off of us, and the other
Speaker 2: one says, no, we're going to have a police state.
Speaker 2: Is there some other alternative to that? I say there is,
Speaker 2: and even Sean Hannity saying that there is. So here's
Speaker 2: this clip of Rampaul and Marco Rubio.
Speaker 3: Our founders debated extensively over which branch of government should
Speaker 3: have the power to declare or initiate war. Virtually unanimously,
Speaker 3: they decided what was entered into the Constitution was that
Speaker 3: the declaration or initiation of war would be the power
Speaker 3: of Congress. Now, we have many advocates, many of them
Speaker 3: are here today, who have been advocates for an expansive
Speaker 3: notion of presidential power. They often argued that wars are
Speaker 3: not really wars, that their kinetic actions or drug busts.
Speaker 3: I think, though, if you reverse the circumstances, it becomes
Speaker 3: very difficult for these arguments to hold up. So I
Speaker 3: would ask you if a foreign country bombed our air
Speaker 3: defense missiles, captured and removed our president, and blockaded our country,
Speaker 3: would that be considered an active war.
Speaker 4: Well, I think your question is about the and I
Speaker 4: will acknowledge you have been very consistent on all these
Speaker 4: points the entire career. So let me no matter who's
Speaker 4: in charge. So I will point the two things. The
Speaker 4: first is it's hard for us to conceive that an
Speaker 4: operation that lasted about four and a half hours was
Speaker 4: a law enforcement operation to capture someone we don't recognize
Speaker 4: as a head of state, indicted in the United States,
Speaker 4: wanted with a fifty million.
Speaker 3: Dollar bount, you would be if it only took four
Speaker 3: hours to take our president. Very short. Nobody dies on
Speaker 3: the other side, nobody dies on our side.
Speaker 1: It's perfect.
Speaker 3: Would it be an active war?
Speaker 4: We just don't believe that this operation comes anywhere close
Speaker 4: to the constitutional definition of it.
Speaker 2: Would it be an active war?
Speaker 3: Someone did it, does, nobody dies, few casualties, their in
Speaker 3: and out, boom, It's a perfect military operation.
Speaker 2: Would that be an active war?
Speaker 3: Of course, it would be an active war. I'm probably
Speaker 3: the most anti war person in the Senate, and I
Speaker 3: would vote to declare war if someone invaded our country
Speaker 3: and took our president. So I think we need to
Speaker 3: at least acknowledge this is a one way argument.
Speaker 2: One way.
Speaker 3: Arguments that don't rebound, that you can't apply to yourselves,
Speaker 3: that cannot be university applical, are bad arguments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what Marco Rubio was saying, well, there
Speaker 2: is no there's no equivalency here. Why Well, because we're powerful,
Speaker 2: so we're not equal to anybody else. There's a different
Speaker 2: rule for us. As a matter of fact, there's no
Speaker 2: rules for us. And he's not just implying that. We've
Speaker 2: seen that said over and over again by Stephen Miller
Speaker 2: openly talking about that in terms of Greenland and Denmark,
Speaker 2: not just in terms of Venezuela. And we see this
Speaker 2: being done in terms of domestic policy as well with Ice.
Speaker 2: So Paul said, what I'm saying is that our arguments
Speaker 2: are empty. Then the drug bust really isn't an argument.
Speaker 2: It's a ruse. The war argument, it's not a war
Speaker 2: and it is a war. Saying both of those things,
Speaker 2: that is a ruse, he said, it's not a real argument.
Speaker 2: We do what we do because we are we have
Speaker 2: the force we have might we do it because it's
Speaker 2: in our interest. So we wouldn't let anybody come in
Speaker 2: and bomb us and blockade us and take our president.
Speaker 2: We've had arguments about legitimate and illegitimate presidents. We've had
Speaker 2: arguments about battle elections and rigged elections, and so there's
Speaker 2: all these same kind of arguments that we've had in
Speaker 2: our country that they've had in Venezuela. And so that's
Speaker 2: the bottom law, folks. It's the disregard for law and morality.
Speaker 2: They're used as weapons abroad, right, we don't care about
Speaker 2: what's happening abroad, and so we bring that same attitude
Speaker 2: back home. These are people saying we have to defend
Speaker 2: our borders and we have to get rid of these
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants. And yet the people who are so pro border,
Speaker 2: and I'm pro border, but I don't see how you
Speaker 2: can support political borders when you don't support political boundaries.
Speaker 2: You have political boundaries, you don't have the right to
Speaker 2: be an office. You don't have the authority to be
Speaker 2: in office if you're not going to be bound by
Speaker 2: the boundaries that are outlined in the constitution. So shut
Speaker 2: up about borders if you're not going to follow boundaries
Speaker 2: in your own country. That's where we are, folks. That's
Speaker 2: why I begin with that as well. And so we
Speaker 2: have Minnesota's Chief judge, the one that is going to
Speaker 2: war with Trump on the Ice issue. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, he has demanded that tomorrow the head of
Speaker 2: ICE come to his court and explain why he is
Speaker 2: disregarding the judge's orders. And it's kind of telling to
Speaker 2: see the way Homeland Securities Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin, the
Speaker 2: contempt that she has for this judge and really for
Speaker 2: the rule of law. It's also interesting to see that
Speaker 2: this guy is a conservative. Many people say he's low key.
Speaker 2: George W. Bush appointee, confronting Trump's immigration tactics, ordered ordering
Speaker 2: the head of ICE to come to his room and
Speaker 2: to explain in his courtroom why they're ignoring what he
Speaker 2: said in terms of following reasonable procedures. This is a
Speaker 2: guy who clerked twice for Scullia. This is a guy
Speaker 2: who fought for Robert Borke, perhaps the most conservative judge
Speaker 2: that's been nominated in my lifetime for the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: And so this is a guy for whom the rule
Speaker 2: of law stands large. In other words, a real conservative
Speaker 2: if you look at it from that standpoint. I don't
Speaker 2: know politically who he votes for. They said, well, we've
Speaker 2: seen him doing this and that with this group, and
Speaker 2: he left a law practice for a while and taught
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame University where Amy Cony Barrett went, and
Speaker 2: he endorsed her for Supreme Court. But of course we
Speaker 2: all make mistakes. I got to say, she looked good
Speaker 2: on paper to me, and yet you know, we can
Speaker 2: see where she is. She doesn't really grasp or care
Speaker 2: much for the Constitution or originality. But this guy sixty five,
Speaker 2: as he's doing this, of course he's been anybody who
Speaker 2: pushes back against Trump's arbitrary dictates and whatever he's doing
Speaker 2: has got to be a leftist, right. This is the
Speaker 2: danger of this tribalism. It's like I said, these people
Speaker 2: are not going to leave us alone because we're not Republican,
Speaker 2: not Democrat. They're going to come after us. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: you must be the other side, right, You're either with
Speaker 2: us or you're the enemy. You're either with us or
Speaker 2: you're a terrorist. We're seeing a lot of that now
Speaker 2: with the videotape that came out yesterday of Alex Pretty
Speaker 2: first it came out that he had had rib broken
Speaker 2: by an encounter with Ice, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: that was the same video as this other one. I
Speaker 2: didn't really pay much attention to it because it's not
Speaker 2: your maane to the killing. It's not your mane to it.
Speaker 2: On that particular instant incident, he's outraged, he's yelling and screaming,
Speaker 2: he's combative. He kicks the car that the ice agent's
Speaker 2: ran and kicks out the tail light. I'm surprised there's
Speaker 2: that easy to kick that cars are made out of plastic. Now,
Speaker 2: it's amazing, but he did significant damage to it. And see,
Speaker 2: see he's he's a criminal. And you could see that
Speaker 2: he had a gun that was in his tucked into
Speaker 2: the back of his waistband and his pants, just like
Speaker 2: he didn't really took it out and killed him the
Speaker 2: other day. But that's not what they did with wasn't
Speaker 2: And it was visible in this particular one. And so
Speaker 2: you got all these conservatives saying, see, you know he's
Speaker 2: a terrorist, you know he's a violent he's looking for
Speaker 2: a fight. Well, I got to say, if you go
Speaker 2: back to January sixth, right, we've seen the pictures of
Speaker 2: the Democrats that do the same thing. The Democrats did
Speaker 2: the same thing to demonize everybody that was there on
Speaker 2: January the sixth, and they did it without showing any context.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you just show it after somebody has
Speaker 2: been in rage because they've been pushed, shoved, not to
Speaker 2: the ground, tear gassed, and then they lose it and
Speaker 2: fight back, Oh now I'm justified in killing you. If
Speaker 2: you depending on where you start this video, you can
Speaker 2: tell whatever you want to say about the events. We've
Speaker 2: had a lot of people who were there on January
Speaker 2: sixth who said the Capitol Police started this, kicked this off,
Speaker 2: escalated it. I've been at a lot of demonstrations. I've
Speaker 2: seen that type of thing happening over and over again.
Speaker 2: I can easily believe that's what happened, and we do
Speaker 2: have video footage that would indicate that. And so we
Speaker 2: don't know what happened before this that got him so
Speaker 2: outraged about this. And it's not to excuse it. Right,
Speaker 2: what he did was still wrong, and it's not to
Speaker 2: excuse of the people on January the sixth. Did they
Speaker 2: get into a fight with the police. They break out windows,
Speaker 2: they commit vandalism, property to stuction, go to jail. However,
Speaker 2: the problem with January the sixth was the excessive punishment.
Speaker 2: I never had a problem with the people who were fighting.
Speaker 2: You know, regardless of what the provocation was, you start
Speaker 2: fighting and destroying property, you go to jail, but not
Speaker 2: for decades, and you don't they don't get a chance
Speaker 2: to torture you in jail, and so all this stuff
Speaker 2: is so excessful. And if you get upset with the
Speaker 2: cops and you speak back to them because they're angry
Speaker 2: that you're filming them, that's not a license for them
Speaker 2: to kill you. That's why we have the clause about
Speaker 2: excessive punishment. So we have the clause about due process. Now.
Speaker 2: On January the sixth, what the Democrats did was they
Speaker 2: took these videos that people were fighting, took them without
Speaker 2: the entire context, and they said, Okay, these people are
Speaker 2: violent revolutionaries, and everybody there is a violent revolutionary. You
Speaker 2: see the conservative tribe doing that now as well, I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say the conservative tribe, the Trump cons are doing
Speaker 2: that now. They're painting everybody with the same brush. And
Speaker 2: then they're demanding that there should be no limits to
Speaker 2: the punishment that's inflicted on people. It needs to be absolute,
Speaker 2: including lifetime in prison for the Democrats, or taking your
Speaker 2: life if you're Republican's right. And so that's the issue here,
Speaker 2: keeping this stuff in perspective, keeping it within the constitution
Speaker 2: and due process, keeping a balance with it. That's the
Speaker 2: challenge that's here. Yes, there were some things that were
Speaker 2: done wrong, things that should even be punished. That he
Speaker 2: did wrong doesn't entitle them to kill him at all.
Speaker 2: And so when you look at this judge who's pushing
Speaker 2: back on these confrontational tactics from Ice, again, todd lyons
Speaker 2: was an appropriate name for somebody that's there. Is why
Speaker 2: the trump Kin administration with Ice, give me that guy
Speaker 2: whose name was Lion, I could use them. You know,
Speaker 2: christinome is is there. That's her middle name, I guess
Speaker 2: as well as is Tricia mcglonklin. So Judge Schultz schlitz
Speaker 2: brother is just another activist judge who is clearly more
Speaker 2: concerned about politics than the safety of Minnesotan's said Tricia mcglonklin.
Speaker 2: She doesn't care about the safety of people in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Does this judge really think that Director Lions should take
Speaker 2: time out of his day leading ICE to target the
Speaker 2: worst of the worst criminal illegals, including murderers, rapists, pedophiles, terrorists,
Speaker 2: in our country to testify to hearing or one illegal
Speaker 2: aliens removal proceedings. This is a woman who lied when
Speaker 2: they took that elderly man who had been here for
Speaker 2: thirty five years from Laos, when they invaded his home
Speaker 2: like some kind of a dystopian science fiction movie like Brazil,
Speaker 2: drug him out in his underwear, he grabbed blanket as
Speaker 2: he was going out into ten degree weather and then
Speaker 2: drove him around for an hour before they could verify
Speaker 2: who they even had. And she comes back and says, yeah,
Speaker 2: they were looking for some rapists and pedophiles and all
Speaker 2: this whatever, right, and shows a picture of two guys
Speaker 2: that never lived there. They said, we don't know who
Speaker 2: these people are. And even if they had lived there,
Speaker 2: they were not there then. And they're in their twenties
Speaker 2: and this guy's in his sixties I think looking at him,
Speaker 2: and he might be late fifties, who knows. But all
Speaker 2: of it was a lie. That was a lie that
Speaker 2: was sold by this same woman, Tricia McLaughlin. So one
Speaker 2: person said, actually this is politico. Politico says Schlitz is
Speaker 2: perhaps an unlikely figure. He carved his professional identity in
Speaker 2: traditional conservative circles see Politico thinks that Trump is a conservative.
Speaker 2: He's not a conservat He's a New York Democrat. And
Speaker 2: these authoritarian Nazis around him are not conservatives either. We
Speaker 2: need to come up with a new name. I like
Speaker 2: Trump cons like neo cons. So he advocated for Robert Borke,
Speaker 2: like I said before, clerked for Scalia twice. The Senate
Speaker 2: confirmed him unanimously. One person who's a law professor and
Speaker 2: was a former federal prosecutor, Mark Osler, said he comes
Speaker 2: from a traditionally conservative point of view, but he's a
Speaker 2: rule of law guy. Imagine that. Of course, if you're
Speaker 2: a rule of law guy, you're conflict with the Trump
Speaker 2: cons He's been regarded as a rock solid, generally conservative
Speaker 2: judge on the bench. But with that comes things other
Speaker 2: than loyalty to this administration, because this administration has no
Speaker 2: loyalty to the rule of law, and so we have
Speaker 2: as people are starting to push back against this. Here's
Speaker 2: Arlington County board chair says Ice. If you see Ice
Speaker 2: in Arlington, call nine to one to one. He said,
Speaker 2: And I disagree with his position about immigrants. He said,
Speaker 2: to our immigrant neighbors, you belong in Arlington. No, they don't.
Speaker 2: We need to end the welfare magnet. But we need
Speaker 2: to do this with do process. We need to do
Speaker 2: it humanly, orderly and remove them, and there's ways to
Speaker 2: do that. And he said, you are a part of
Speaker 2: this community. Well no, Actually they should not be voting
Speaker 2: and they should not be getting money either. You know,
Speaker 2: when we talk about immigrants, I don't think legal immigrants
Speaker 2: ought to be able to get in any taxpayer money.
Speaker 2: I think one of the conditions of becoming an American
Speaker 2: citizen is that you're going to declare your independence from
Speaker 2: government and that you're not going to come here as
Speaker 2: a dependent. Most countries in the world have a requirement
Speaker 2: that you can show that you can support yourself and
Speaker 2: your family before you're allowed to immigrate to a country.
Speaker 2: We should be doing that as well.
Speaker 5: I think interesting thing to point out is that what's
Speaker 5: going on with the fraud with Somalians in Minnesota is
Speaker 5: likely going on with every immigrant group everywhere. They are
Speaker 5: maybe not to that scale, but it's probably happening. And
Speaker 5: I think it's just that the people involved are so
Speaker 5: incredibly dumb and incompetent that it's more obvious there.
Speaker 2: Well, it's when you bring in a large group of
Speaker 2: people as a community, rather than you know, coming across
Speaker 2: the border, the coming in as individuals or whatever. And again,
Speaker 2: you know, we've created these drug gangs and they are
Speaker 2: dangerous and we should be aware of that and we
Speaker 2: should deal with that. But that's a different thing. And again,
Speaker 2: you want to know who you're coming after. You just
Speaker 2: don't start going door to door grabbing people and threatening
Speaker 2: people and beeting them up.
Speaker 5: It's also worth pointing out that the whole melting pot
Speaker 5: thing has never been true. It never works at scale.
Speaker 5: Small numbers of different communities, different people can be integrated
Speaker 5: into a society society. The large numbers cannot. And it's
Speaker 5: also worth noting that that quote at the bottom of
Speaker 5: the statue of Liberty was written by a Marxist playwright.
Speaker 5: So take that with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2: Well, you always had hang down, you'd always have like Chinatown.
Speaker 2: You still see Chinatown. And when you had a lot
Speaker 2: of people coming in from Italy and have little Italy
Speaker 2: people come together, they would aim together as an ethnic group,
Speaker 2: a cultural group, and that type of thing. And that's fine,
Speaker 2: But as you pointed out, if you're going to bring
Speaker 2: in tens of thousands of people and put them in
Speaker 2: one area, and then they get started on massive amounts
Speaker 2: of money from the federal government, a couple of billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Right It's like, well, you know, there's this large pot
Speaker 2: of money there, we might as well go get it.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great way to train them. And
Speaker 2: what is what are the Trump cons doing about this?
Speaker 2: They are going to increase that. Right now, the pot
Speaker 2: of gold for refugees that acts as a magnet for
Speaker 2: them to come here is six billion dollars. Trump and
Speaker 2: Mike Johnson and the GOP want to increase that by
Speaker 2: five billion dollars. That's an eighty percent increase that they
Speaker 2: want to do for that. So ICE's approaches do designed
Speaker 2: to provoke right now and to seek out conflict. I
Speaker 2: agree with that. I agree with that. I don't agree
Speaker 2: with what he says about citizenship. And one of the
Speaker 2: reasons that he's saying that, you know, our immigrant neighbors,
Speaker 2: you belong this community, blah blah blah. He's saying that
Speaker 2: because that's twenty two percent of the people in that community.
Speaker 2: That's enough to keep him in office. And that's an
Speaker 2: aspect of this as well, that we should talk about
Speaker 2: and so, as I said yesterday, ICE's approach is designed
Speaker 2: to provoke right now and to seek out conflict. And
Speaker 2: here's here's the numbers for the previous five years. Each year,
Speaker 2: the number of ICE and Border Patrol shootings will be
Speaker 2: anywhere from zero to five. Except this year, the first
Speaker 2: year of Trump. Trump, where they are, where they are
Speaker 2: seeking out conflict, We've had not zero to five, We've
Speaker 2: had twenty eight shootings and eight people killed by ICE.
Speaker 2: So they pointed out they think that the Trump administration
Speaker 2: appears intent on converting law enforcement into military intervention. I
Speaker 2: agree with all the trappings and appearance and the posture
Speaker 2: of some sort of regime change. And you can see
Speaker 2: this when you look at the pictures. There's one in particular,
Speaker 2: a guy who was in the military. I think he's marine.
Speaker 2: Then both Afghanistan and a rock. He said, look at this,
Speaker 2: pull up that picture of Travis. It's a couple of
Speaker 2: articles down. Yeah, the height of close combat weaponry is
Speaker 2: on this woman's doorstep. In this picture. You've got I
Speaker 2: count seven people lined up, and you got one lady
Speaker 2: at the door. So a woman at the door. They
Speaker 2: got seven guys. They're all lined up with body armor
Speaker 2: and weapons for combat, for house to house combat. If
Speaker 2: that isn't the excessive use of force. You know, when
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty when Karen and I went to the UK,
Speaker 2: went to England for a horneymoon, we were very impressed
Speaker 2: with the way the Bobby's conducted themselves. They've now become Americanized,
Speaker 2: but back then they would go as Roger, what's the
Speaker 2: guy's name, Bobby's on bicycles two by two with England
Speaker 2: swings like a Pinchulin two. Anyway. I can't remember the
Speaker 2: last name of this songwriter, but you probably remember who
Speaker 2: it is. I wanted to say Roger Moore, and it's like, no,
Speaker 2: it's not Roger Moore. He's British anyway, the American, the
Speaker 2: American songwriter. But that's the way they'd go two by two.
Speaker 2: They had radios in case something really got bad. Oh,
Speaker 2: and they had whistles, those horrible whistles that really set
Speaker 2: off ice, and they were very polite to everybody. You
Speaker 2: start getting real horsey when you've got a gun, when
Speaker 2: you got guns sluing on, and when you've got body
Speaker 2: armor and you got weapons to fight a war, it
Speaker 2: completely changes your attitude and instead of walking a beat,
Speaker 2: you start driving a car, which is what's happening in
Speaker 2: the UK with law enforcement there as well.
Speaker 5: This picture is killing me. There's eight guys in this photo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's probably yeah, hey, seven or eight guys.
Speaker 2: They're confronting a woman who answers the door. What's going
Speaker 2: on here? And you can see part of one guy there,
Speaker 2: so you know how many more people are out of
Speaker 2: frame in that picture.
Speaker 5: I'm just imagining them all piling out of a clown
Speaker 5: car right now.
Speaker 2: Just Keystone cops, except these guys are really dangerous. Well,
Speaker 2: there's an article on World magazine keeping ice within the law.
Speaker 5: Oh, also right over your say, it was Roger Miller
Speaker 5: that wrote, and.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, I know Roger or something, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for putting that in. Our constitution
Speaker 2: doesn't allow federal agents to enter homes forcibly without a
Speaker 2: judicial warrant. How did we get here, Well, we accepted
Speaker 2: the idea that even if they got a warrant, they
Speaker 2: can enter forcibly without even knocking. They can kick the
Speaker 2: door in and come in shooting. Isn't that an abomination?
Speaker 2: But notice how that's now become accepted practice. Now they're
Speaker 2: just saying, wait a minute, you need a warrant to
Speaker 2: kick somebody's door in without a knocking even And now
Speaker 2: Homeland Security says, no, we don't need a warrant. We
Speaker 2: can do that anytime we want. We can do a
Speaker 2: full on military raid under your house anytime we want
Speaker 2: without a warrant from a judge. We will generate our
Speaker 2: own warrant internally, our own organization will do it. Defining
Speaker 2: feature of the American experiment is that citizens are not
Speaker 2: meant to live in fear of their own government. The
Speaker 2: Constitution was written against the backdrop of arbitrary arrests, general warrants,
Speaker 2: and the abuse of unchecked government power, with the express
Speaker 2: purpose of ensuring that the government would secure the rights
Speaker 2: of the people rather than endanger them. As a result,
Speaker 2: Americans have not historically lived under the fear that they
Speaker 2: might be taken from their homes and the discretion of
Speaker 2: a vengeful, petty or over zealous political authority. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at you, Trump cons As a matter of fact, that's
Speaker 2: what that guy was saying that I did agree with.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm a city councilor here, but I live
Speaker 2: in fear of these people, you never know what they're
Speaker 2: going to do. They have absolute immunity to do whatever
Speaker 2: they wish, no matter how violent. And so if you
Speaker 2: don't think that that describes democrats as well as the
Speaker 2: anti Second Amendment Trump neocons, because you know Trump is
Speaker 2: a New York City Democrat, you need to think about
Speaker 2: where this is headed. He says, Yes, law enforcement has
Speaker 2: always a existed, but its power has always been restrained.
Speaker 2: In America. The Fourth Amendment was adopted precisely to prohibit
Speaker 2: arrest and attentions based on mere suspicion or official convenience.
Speaker 2: In America, suspicion is insufficient. The government must provide evidence
Speaker 2: and submit itself to legal restraint before it can deprive
Speaker 2: someone of liberty. And again, when we look at the
Speaker 2: Declaration of Independence two hundred and fiftieth anniversary this year,
Speaker 2: as it began a long train of abuses, and that's
Speaker 2: how we got here, folks. It's been a long train running.
Speaker 2: It began with things like reco statutes where we can
Speaker 2: take everything from you before we even start the trial.
Speaker 2: That metastasized into civil asset forfeiture, where we take everything
Speaker 2: from you without even charging you with a crime, let
Speaker 2: alone convicting you. So with RICO, we charge you with
Speaker 2: a crime, then we take everything. Then you go to
Speaker 2: a civil asset forfeiture. Well we don't even have to
Speaker 2: charge you with the crime. We're going to charge your
Speaker 2: property with a crime and there'll be no due process right.
Speaker 2: And then we go from that to the no knock
Speaker 2: drug raids, and now we go to the no knock
Speaker 2: drug raids with no warrant. It's a long crane of
Speaker 2: abuses and you can see that Trump is fully on
Speaker 2: board with this, as he was talking in the first administration,
Speaker 2: take the gun and do the due process later. Well,
Speaker 2: they're not going to do any due process. We're going
Speaker 2: to take a quick break here because I really do
Speaker 2: want to and we'll come back to this, but I
Speaker 2: want to talk to Tony about what's going on with Gold.
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of questions from people for Tony
Speaker 2: and if you've got any you can give them to
Speaker 2: us and we will pass those on to him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, real quick, before we go to Tony, I do
Speaker 5: want to read these comments.
Speaker 2: Sorry to make him wait.
Speaker 5: North American House Hippos says, please remind David now that
Speaker 5: Trump is back from Davos. March thirteen falls on a
Speaker 5: Friday again this year.
Speaker 2: Oh great, will that be when he declares martial law
Speaker 2: for real? The other was medical martial law this time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, martial law too, electric boogaloo. Guard Goldsmith says, like
Speaker 5: Al Gore, when you made campaign calls from the White House,
Speaker 5: which was illegal. He said, there was no controlling legal authority.
Speaker 5: Classic And of course you can find Guard Goldsmith at
Speaker 5: Liberty Conspiracy, on Rumble Agree and on sub Stack North
Speaker 5: American House. Hippop also said Christinome was so mad she
Speaker 5: grabbed her gun and headed straight for the Washington Animal
Speaker 5: shelter to blow off some steam.
Speaker 2: I've seen these bots are so horrible. On X I
Speaker 2: saw several people put up I'm so glad that we've
Speaker 2: got Christinome as our Homeleans thing. And it wasn't sarcasm,
Speaker 2: And it was that picture where she's standing there with
Speaker 2: two guys. They've got her all decked out in the
Speaker 2: barbie gear, you know, to she's dressed up like Gi
Speaker 2: Joe uniform, and I think she's pointing the gun at
Speaker 2: that guy's head and holding it really awkwardly and pointing
Speaker 2: the barrel at the guy's head standing on her left.
Speaker 2: I thought, Wow, this is the level of political discourse
Speaker 2: that you get on social media Anymore's pathetic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I find it. Even those real guys, even if
Speaker 5: they're not bots, they're like, oh, man, she holds guns.
Speaker 5: Women who like guns, okay, whatever.
Speaker 2: Even though she's never hopefully fired one, watch to cheat
Speaker 2: her dogs with it.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I find it very strange. Like, if
Speaker 5: you're a woman and you're really into guns, that's cool
Speaker 5: for you, that's fine. But also if you're a guy,
Speaker 5: that's like, I want a woman that drinks beer, likes football,
Speaker 5: shoots guns, Like, why don't you just go hang out
Speaker 5: with your guy friends.
Speaker 2: Man, maybe there's some trainings you'd be interested in. Have
Speaker 2: you ever have you ever talked to Bruce Gender, you.
Speaker 5: Know and con thing. Thank you so much for the tip.
Speaker 5: We appreciate it, he says. I just laughed so hard
Speaker 5: listening to the censored silenty interview. Great, Tonal beabs, Well,
Speaker 5: you're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know beefs and it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have people that carry it on different radio,
Speaker 5: so I have to censor it otherwise they get into trouble. Okay,
Speaker 5: sometimes I miss some and I feel really bad about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 2: be right back with Tony Ardman. We've gone over a
Speaker 2: few minutes here, but we'll be right back. Stay with us.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the David Night Show.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome back. And joining us now is Tony Ardeman,
Speaker 2: and he is at the tip of the spear of
Speaker 2: the news right now, because the big news is what
Speaker 2: is happening to gold and what is happening to the dollar?
Speaker 2: And we just had drum pound and say, oh, there's
Speaker 2: no problem with a dollar. That's what I said at
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. I said, we're have Tony
Speaker 2: ardban On. He knows a lot more than Jerome Powell.
Speaker 2: Or you know, the alternative is that Jerome Powell knows
Speaker 2: a lot more than he's telling you. He's not being
Speaker 2: honest with anybody. So Goldman Sachs is saying, we're looking
Speaker 2: at the demise of the dollar and it's just getting started.
Speaker 2: It's what they said. And well, last time we talked,
Speaker 2: we could go on Thursday. What was the price of gold?
Speaker 2: Was it about forty forty seven hundred what was it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, remember somewhere around forty eight hundred and some change,
Speaker 6: and it's bounced around a little bit. It's hard to
Speaker 6: be exact, but yeah, it was just we were nearing
Speaker 6: five thousand. That was the big milestone. Now it's that's
Speaker 6: completely off the table. We're going to talk about six
Speaker 6: thousand dollars gold. It appears.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think we've hit all time highs every single day,
Speaker 6: even over the weekend.
Speaker 2: That was crazy. Monday, I thought that can't be right.
Speaker 2: They said fifty one hundred. Is that a projection from
Speaker 2: one of these banks. It's like, no, that's what it
Speaker 2: hit on Monday. It's like what And then you know,
Speaker 2: the next couple of days later, I see it's like
Speaker 2: about fifty four hundred and fifty five hundred. Did it
Speaker 2: get as high as fifty eight hundred? I think I
Speaker 2: saw that somewhere Momentarily.
Speaker 6: It may be on the futures. As far as spot price,
Speaker 6: I think we've gone over fifty five and then we
Speaker 6: drop back down. But it's I mean, we're still we're
Speaker 6: doing moving in new territory.
Speaker 2: David, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: None of these even the simulations and the big big
Speaker 6: intel that I follow they haven't. They haven't called this
Speaker 6: this is this is something completely different. I would say
Speaker 6: that it's funny. Jerome Powell reminds me of Bagdad Bob.
Speaker 6: Remember that Saddam's his press secretary or whatever you would
Speaker 6: call it, the chief Minister of Information, whatever it was.
Speaker 6: And he would, I mean, he would say, they're not here,
Speaker 6: the Americans aren't here. They're rolling through Baghdad, you know,
Speaker 6: in real time. And he's like, we've had no contact,
Speaker 6: and well that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Matter what you're talking about. This administration. They're all bagdad Bob.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's whatever the topic is, they give you
Speaker 2: a Bagdad Bob line, don't they. It's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Field currency, I think is a barbarous relic. Yeah,
Speaker 6: in our time we'll seeing John ayer Kain's had it
Speaker 6: in reverse.
Speaker 2: Well you could call it a barbarous bubble. I guess
Speaker 2: maybe our own little take on this. We had Tucker
Speaker 2: Cralson talking to Peter Schiff about bitcoin, whether it be
Speaker 2: the new global reserve currency. Of course, you know, Peter
Speaker 2: Schiff has heaped nothing but scoring on bitcoin and crypto.
Speaker 2: There's been this ongoing war. I would say, right now
Speaker 2: is looking pretty good for Peter Schiff's point of view, Well.
Speaker 6: I'd say so, and I think I think bitcoin right
Speaker 6: now is probably the dark horse. It's just south there
Speaker 6: doing what it does. It's more like a stable coin
Speaker 6: at this point. I mean, it's still trading at eighty
Speaker 6: five thousand a coin, which is insane. If you know
Speaker 6: it's history. When I got into bitcoin, it was four
Speaker 6: hundred dollars, you know, I was in twenty sixteen. That's
Speaker 6: when I first saw the usage of bitcoin ATMs and
Speaker 6: then I got me interested. That's the genesis of wise wolf.
Speaker 6: So I've been around a long time in bitcoin to
Speaker 6: say it's lagging, but I think where all bets are off,
Speaker 6: everything's being repriced. Bitcoin will probably go last because you've
Speaker 6: got to remember, gold and silver are the old historical money.
Speaker 6: They're tied to the human experiences. You know, it's biblical,
Speaker 6: it's inside of our traditions. So it's obviously going to
Speaker 6: go first. And you know, I see a lot of
Speaker 6: price predictions. I think some of them are completely irresponsible
Speaker 6: from some of these commentators, especially in my space. I
Speaker 6: don't like to make price predictions, but I do think
Speaker 6: that there's something else is happening. David and I've been running,
Speaker 6: just like for my own curiosity, running the simulations on
Speaker 6: what the price of gold would need to be if
Speaker 6: the major central banks wanted to reprice their currencies in gold,
Speaker 6: and it looks like it's it's far north of what
Speaker 6: it is now. But if you take their gold holdings
Speaker 6: and you wanted to reprice it for their into the
Speaker 6: money supply, and it's in north of you know, thirty
Speaker 6: five forty thousand announcement, I'm not saying that's where we're going,
Speaker 6: but something is afoot. If you wanted to to reprice something,
Speaker 6: this is how you would do it. And you know,
Speaker 6: the US, for so long as you know we've covered this,
Speaker 6: has been in a had a active role, especially the
Speaker 6: Central Bank and FED of suppressing the price. So I
Speaker 6: don't think they can do that anymore. And I think
Speaker 6: that's clearly going up in the price of silver, not
Speaker 6: just gold, but you know, silver is following gold, and
Speaker 6: goal's being repriced. Silver's being repriced, and nothing seems to
Speaker 6: be a governor on that anymore.
Speaker 2: That's right, And you know, it's kind of interesting because
Speaker 2: when you look at you know, what is the financial
Speaker 2: assystem going to go to? Well, the Trump administration is
Speaker 2: definitely pushing toward a stable coin, just like the EU
Speaker 2: and other places just want to do CBDC. You know,
Speaker 2: Trump administration is trying to pretend it's something different than CBDC.
Speaker 2: But the tether and these stable coins is so called
Speaker 2: stable coins are really just a relabeled CBDC. It has
Speaker 2: a kind of private public partnership aspect to it, a
Speaker 2: kind of fascism corruption thing as you would expect from
Speaker 2: Trump administration. It also helps them to pretend that it's
Speaker 2: not the same as CBDC, but it's a way for
Speaker 2: them and their buddies to make money as well. But
Speaker 2: we just saw teather just disappear one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: million something dollars out of several Wallace just seized, froze it,
Speaker 2: sees it and freeze it, and sees it as what
Speaker 2: they do right. And that's a warning to everybody, I think,
Speaker 2: And as we look at how things are changing. You
Speaker 2: and I have talked for a long time about the
Speaker 2: warning about paper gold and paper silver. We don't know
Speaker 2: that stuff is for real either. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they've really got the gold or silver that's there. And
Speaker 2: when push comes to show we may find out that
Speaker 2: they don't have it, which case, the shares that you've
Speaker 2: got in those companies off the Shanghai Gold Exchange just
Speaker 2: plummet if confidence disappears. You are not buying a tenth
Speaker 2: of an ounce of gold or silver. What you're buying
Speaker 2: is shares in a company that promises that they're going
Speaker 2: to be accumulating gold and silver. So physical possession, whether
Speaker 2: you're talking about the so called stable coins, which are
Speaker 2: not stable and they're not coins, the way that they
Speaker 2: can freeze and seize anything that you've got by design,
Speaker 2: that was something that was in the Genius Act that
Speaker 2: Trump put through there. So whether you're talking about that,
Speaker 2: or you talking about paper gold or silver or any
Speaker 2: kind of tokenized derivative schemes that are coming out of
Speaker 2: Wall Street, be very careful about that. And the approach
Speaker 2: that you want to take is with physical gold and
Speaker 2: physical silver. That's why what you do, Tony is so important.
Speaker 6: Well, I agree with that wholeheartedly. I think the term
Speaker 6: is counterparty risk, and that used to be a lot
Speaker 6: more acceptable, And it's funny because the institutions are going first.
Speaker 6: I always thought it would be the other way around.
Speaker 6: I thought that the people would start to lose faith
Speaker 6: in the system and rebel against it from the bottom up.
Speaker 6: And some of that is happening. I mean, I think
Speaker 6: it's more widespread than it's ever been in my lifetime,
Speaker 6: especially since nineteen seventy one, that people are skeptical of
Speaker 6: the monetary system. But this has started governmentally across the
Speaker 6: across the world. It's an international phenomenon of mistrust and
Speaker 6: reallocation of funds and resources. And we covered this a
Speaker 6: few months ago. David. I thought it was a big
Speaker 6: news that they have the storage for goal physical goal,
Speaker 6: not only in Shanghai, that they're starting new storage facilities
Speaker 6: and moving the exchange there. I know JP Moore is
Speaker 6: taking their gold desks there, but also in Hong Kong.
Speaker 6: I thought that was big news. And they're building you know,
Speaker 6: massive storage facilities just outside the airport for physical storage.
Speaker 6: So it's not you know, the firms that used to
Speaker 6: control so much of the paper market, and that was
Speaker 6: just seen. Hey, if you wanted a hand and you know,
Speaker 6: or do something in gold or silver, and as far
Speaker 6: as following the price or the spot, this is what
Speaker 6: you would get into. You know, there's not a lot
Speaker 6: of risk here you can just you don't have to
Speaker 6: hold the gold or stored anywhere. You just buy in
Speaker 6: its spot and you can cash out. Of Course, they'd
Speaker 6: never pay you in gold or silver through any of
Speaker 6: those funds. They would pay you in fiat if you
Speaker 6: cashed out, because it's just priced against the spot whatever
Speaker 6: those medals were. And of course there's storage is expensive
Speaker 6: all the rest. But I think I started to see
Speaker 6: a trend about three years ago, especially after the sanctions
Speaker 6: on Russia backfire. There's this big blowback that happened with
Speaker 6: the ruble rebounding, and they started doing those cross border
Speaker 6: payments with not only gold but petroleum and other things
Speaker 6: with and direct trades with China and India, and I
Speaker 6: started thinking, this is this is going to be interesting
Speaker 6: as the de dollarization continues. I started watching these big
Speaker 6: trades going on that were multinational corporations and governments starting
Speaker 6: to pull you know, more gold into the system physically
Speaker 6: and then move it around. The repatriation of gold, I
Speaker 6: thought it was a big story that didn't get covered
Speaker 6: the way it should. A lot of these countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a lot of them talk about that
Speaker 2: from Germany this last week, you know, there's it's not
Speaker 2: the majority of position there yet, but you've had a
Speaker 2: lot of people from several different parties because they have
Speaker 2: more than two parties there, just as they do in
Speaker 2: most places other than the US. But anyway, a lot
Speaker 2: of politicians that they're saying, we got to get it back.
Speaker 2: We can't trust the Federal Reserve. And so if that's
Speaker 2: their position, and they can't trust the Federal Reserve, and
Speaker 2: I don't trust the Federal Reserve either, but I don't
Speaker 2: think they're going to disappear Germany's gold. But if that's
Speaker 2: their position, if Germany is worried about the Federal Reserve's
Speaker 2: vaults in terms of holding gold, maybe you want to
Speaker 2: think twice about putting your money into paper gold and
Speaker 2: paper silver, hoping that the Chinese have got the actual
Speaker 2: stuff to back up what they're selling you in their
Speaker 2: vaults in Shanghai. You might get shang hied with all
Speaker 2: this stuff, right.
Speaker 6: I think it's inevitable there's gonna be a cascading series
Speaker 6: of events I believe that will further expose the lack
Speaker 6: of accountability here in the next twelve months. I think
Speaker 6: something's going to break because these prices expose it if
Speaker 6: everything's going in chopping sideways or silver's boring the way
Speaker 6: it's been my entire life, it's been like you know,
Speaker 6: from you know, nineteen eighty it hit this peak at
Speaker 6: fifty two. It took forty five years for it to
Speaker 6: break that, and then once it broke it, it is
Speaker 6: off to the races. We got to remember, we had
Speaker 6: these these periods like twenty and eleven where silver got
Speaker 6: close to fifty or trading at fifty and then fell
Speaker 6: back down because of the FED was able to step
Speaker 6: in and calm things down. Ben Bernanki was the key
Speaker 6: figure there. He's like, wait, this isn't going to happen again.
Speaker 6: We're not going to do more tarp funds, We're not
Speaker 6: going to do massive qi or bailout things. And it
Speaker 6: calmed the markets down. Those days are never coming back,
Speaker 6: and we're you know, we're seeing this is the culmination
Speaker 6: all those years of being boring, all of those paper
Speaker 6: trades that were going on in active suppression. David. I mean,
Speaker 6: I've seen it in real time in my business. I've
Speaker 6: seen the suppression through through Wall Street and there. They
Speaker 6: can't do it anymore. I just don't think they have
Speaker 6: the resources or the ability to cover the spread or
Speaker 6: do anything on selling off major So I think the
Speaker 6: race is on for the for the repricing.
Speaker 2: So it was boring, and now we're living in interesting times.
Speaker 6: That's right, it was very boring.
Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting this quote on Kiko the headline,
Speaker 2: Powell dismisses goals rally above fifty three hundred. He says,
Speaker 2: the FED is not losing credibility.
Speaker 6: And everybody liked Bob moment.
Speaker 2: Well, imagine the quote unquote credibility when Trump takes it
Speaker 2: over and he is the entire FED and he's going
Speaker 2: to tell everybody what to do. That's that's when you're
Speaker 2: going to see credibility fleshed out the toilet right there.
Speaker 2: But when you're talking about interesting times and the radical changes,
Speaker 2: we've got to comment here from North American house, ipoe,
Speaker 2: he says. Mike Shedlock said a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: that if gold ever hit ten thousand and silver was
Speaker 2: hundreds of dollars, He said, it would never happen, but
Speaker 2: if it did, you wouldn't want to leave your house.
Speaker 2: What's your comment about that, Tony, Well.
Speaker 6: I think you'd need a little bit higher number. What
Speaker 6: anybody would we blink right now if gold went to
Speaker 6: six thousand and that's the rest of the populace. I mean,
Speaker 6: obviously we're in a unique niche space of people paying attention,
Speaker 6: but we're talking about this the vast majority of people
Speaker 6: don't really know. That's the historical context of Oh, silver's
Speaker 6: you know, at one hundred and eighteen dollars an ounce
Speaker 6: or whatever it is today, so insane that is given
Speaker 6: our timeline, So I think a lot of things have
Speaker 6: to catch up. I mean, gold could go to ten
Speaker 6: thousand in the next year. Would it break the system?
Speaker 6: Probably not. There's just a there's a there's a long
Speaker 6: way to go in the repricing of all this. And
Speaker 6: what does that even mean? I mean, really, how many
Speaker 6: for you to price things in dollars anymore? Do we
Speaker 6: really know the true extent of the devaluation that's gone on?
Speaker 6: Are we just so psychologically programmed to give these things
Speaker 6: value that we continue to do that? And I think
Speaker 6: that metric is that's what's being worked out right now.
Speaker 6: We're in an undiscovered country, a new pricing territory that's
Speaker 6: never happened before, because we've never had I mean, nothing
Speaker 6: can go back, and you can't really historically overlay what
Speaker 6: we've done in the last fifty plus years with our currency.
Speaker 6: It's never truly gone on or gotten that big. You know.
Speaker 6: We never had a fiat currency that was worldwide in
Speaker 6: everything and uh and then being you know, de dollarized rapidly,
Speaker 6: So we've never seen that before. So I don't know
Speaker 6: what pricing strategy I would say, if if if silver,
Speaker 6: like some of these yahoos on I see that to
Speaker 6: see a lot of these commentators, people that want to
Speaker 6: get clicks and they'll put on you know, five thousand
Speaker 6: dollars silver, you know whatever. I see those people all
Speaker 6: the time. If you're that amount, maybe you can't go outside.
Speaker 6: At a certain level, it doesn't matter, you know what.
Speaker 6: At a certain level that repricing in dollars is it's
Speaker 6: kind of absurd.
Speaker 2: And when you look at the global debt. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the point that ray Dalia was making at Davos.
Speaker 2: He said, maybe we're not looking at de dollarization, but
Speaker 2: we're looking at de fiatization.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And he sees that as as something that is you know,
Speaker 2: certainly would dedollarize. Things would be much broader than that
Speaker 2: because it would include all these other fiat current sees
Speaker 2: like the euro and all these other national currencies that
Speaker 2: are out there. When you look at the massive amount
Speaker 2: of debt that is there and how it just keeps expanding.
Speaker 2: With all that got another comment here from Steve Evs.
Speaker 2: He said, can you sell medals? Is it all buy
Speaker 2: and hold? He says, I'm holding. Ask Tony if he
Speaker 2: isn't buying silver. Healp Impact News thinks that many people
Speaker 2: aren't buying. Many gold and silver dealers aren't buying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know why they're not, but we're still buying.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact. As soon as we're done
Speaker 6: with the broadcast, I'm going to send out prices. But
Speaker 6: I'm still buying and I have to, you know, I
Speaker 6: have to balance between the percentages that i'll buy back
Speaker 6: for and my risk, you know, and also being professional
Speaker 6: and making sure people get a good deal. It's a
Speaker 6: tough it's a balancing act at this point.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said last week before we saw this
Speaker 2: explosion this week in the price of metals, I don't
Speaker 2: know how you do it. I mean, you're already operating
Speaker 2: in a hyperinflation economy, you know, the type thing we've
Speaker 2: always talked about in Argentina or Nazi Germany or whatever
Speaker 2: pre Nazi Germany, where you know, the price of the
Speaker 2: commodity is jumping massive amounts during the day each day.
Speaker 2: You know, how do you operate in at something like that.
Speaker 6: I don't know every Yeah, I have the shop in Missouri,
Speaker 6: and they have the shop in Texas. And look at
Speaker 6: my son's here in Texas with me, and I'm broadcasting
Speaker 6: out of my the worse ice stand. We've been up
Speaker 6: clothes for days, by the way, which has given us
Speaker 6: a little bit of breathing room. And Branson yesterday, when
Speaker 6: I reopened, I said, look, let's just pack wolf pack packages.
Speaker 6: We can still sell, but we're not going to buy.
Speaker 6: And that was the only time in the history of
Speaker 6: my shop or since wise Wolf through I just gave
Speaker 6: a blanket order. We're not going to buy anything. And
Speaker 6: because when people needed to work, they've been snowed in
Speaker 6: for days. So today we're going to be buying again.
Speaker 6: And you know, the the difficulty is you have to
Speaker 6: look at every single thing that you buy, or every
Speaker 6: every docket of things. I have to figure out where
Speaker 6: I'm going to source and where I'm going to see
Speaker 6: a lot of times this gets Thank goodness, I've been
Speaker 6: able to pass on stuff like that to Wolfpack people.
Speaker 6: Any of the Wolfpack members have been getting like if
Speaker 6: you do constitutional wolf, you're getting stuff at melt. So
Speaker 6: like I can still, I can still buy ninety percent
Speaker 6: US silver, which most dealers and then refiners aren't buying.
Speaker 6: So I really have no except for one place. But
Speaker 6: it takes three weeks to get paid anywhere to take
Speaker 6: ninety percent silver. But that doesn't mean that ninety percent
Speaker 6: is not a good long term hold. As a matter
Speaker 6: of fact, I think it's one of the best upside
Speaker 6: things you can be doing right now. And people I
Speaker 6: think are confusing. They're like, well, I held this silver
Speaker 6: all this time, why can't I sell now? Well, you're
Speaker 6: talking about a bottleneck system where you know countless people
Speaker 6: are trying to do the same thing that you did.
Speaker 6: You need to just let it calm itself out and
Speaker 6: then price is for the percentages that for buying will
Speaker 6: rise again. But this this market is you know, there's
Speaker 6: no whare for me to sell hurling silver. Does that
Speaker 6: mean sterling silver like flatwear, knives and jewelry and thing?
Speaker 6: Does that mean that is not worth anything, of course not.
Speaker 6: It just means that the refiners are overloaded, dealers are overloaded.
Speaker 6: There's no liquidity right now. But if you give it
Speaker 6: enough time, we'll just sort itself out. You know. The
Speaker 6: rush to sell. If I'm somebody that's held silver a
Speaker 6: long time, you got a few options, But honestly, I'd
Speaker 6: want to see where the price goes and lets let
Speaker 6: things settle out, because I think that they will.
Speaker 2: David, we talked about this report and I saw somebody
Speaker 2: send it to me and I watched it. It was
Speaker 2: at a gold and silver show. You know, they set
Speaker 2: these things up like gun shows, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: a retail thing. You got a lot of retail sellers
Speaker 2: who are there, and then you have people come in
Speaker 2: just like they do it a gun show, and they're
Speaker 2: going to buy gold and silver and things like that.
Speaker 2: And this guy went around talking to all the different
Speaker 2: dealers and he said, so, what's going on is that
Speaker 2: one nobody's buying silver. Everybody wants to sell silver. And
Speaker 2: that was last summer. Everybody wanted to sell it. And
Speaker 2: they said, yeah, that the institutions can't get enough of it,
Speaker 2: but the retail trade doesn't want to buy any of it,
Speaker 2: and they're also feeling economic pressure in terms of yeah,
Speaker 2: I need the money right now. So, you know, it
Speaker 2: was kind of an interesting thing, especially when you look
Speaker 2: at this some of these people. If these dealers said
Speaker 2: I can't buy anymore right now whatever, they're probably regretting that,
Speaker 2: and the people who sold it last summer probably regretting
Speaker 2: it as well. It's amazing because that was just before
Speaker 2: it took off like a rocket.
Speaker 6: Well, and people thought that sixty was the top and
Speaker 6: seventy was the top, and I thought, I kept saying,
Speaker 6: I don't you know, look, I can take your stuff.
Speaker 6: I don't think this is the top. People it had
Speaker 6: always asked me that, and you know it as part
Speaker 6: of how I stay in business is buying products. When
Speaker 6: I stopped buying it, really is, there's something fundamentally wrong
Speaker 6: with the system. If I give that, you know, if
Speaker 6: I give that ordered to my shops to stop buying
Speaker 6: across the board, there's something. There's something terribly wrong. But
Speaker 6: but I do think that if you if you look
Speaker 6: at who's buying, that's that's the tell. And we do
Speaker 6: get and we still have customers, but I get people
Speaker 6: to send me stuff. David all the time, and they're like,
Speaker 6: is this how your shop is? And they'll send me
Speaker 6: some YouTube video of some dealers somewhere going people are
Speaker 6: lined up around the block and they're buying all the
Speaker 6: silver I have, and I'm like, it's not my experience
Speaker 6: in two different states. Or the phone like, that's not
Speaker 6: that's not how you know, And I and my phone
Speaker 6: rings constantly. I have a full time person just answering
Speaker 6: the phone. Well, try to get to every call.
Speaker 2: Oriental rugs.
Speaker 6: I guess it's funny, I really and I go. People
Speaker 6: are always asking me like, oh, I guess you're you're
Speaker 6: selling a lot of silver. No, and we can move
Speaker 6: a lot of it. The key factor I think here
Speaker 6: is that and worry. What's helped us is the dollar
Speaker 6: cost averaging. People over at wolf Pack done a great
Speaker 6: job with this. If you just let it sit there,
Speaker 6: we're going to continue to were the prices that week,
Speaker 6: that's right, and we just fill that order.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think just look at it as a
Speaker 2: slow accumulation. As you point out, you're averaging this out
Speaker 2: over time. You don't have to sweat it that you're
Speaker 2: buying in at one point in time. And maybe I
Speaker 2: got in at the wrong time or something like that.
Speaker 2: You mentioned constitutional Wolf, you said getting people people getting
Speaker 2: that at MELT. What level is that on a monthly.
Speaker 6: It's its own level. It's it's either two fifty or
Speaker 6: five hundred, and you can do one time or you
Speaker 6: can put it on accumulation. And those actually get you
Speaker 6: can collectibles in there, because I don't have time to
Speaker 6: sort through that. But you get collectibles, you get silver dollars.
Speaker 6: And what I was saying earlier, I was on the
Speaker 6: phone with and it's funny because we we've never we've
Speaker 6: never been in this situation before. These prices are so
Speaker 6: high that I have to reevaluate how I even look
Speaker 6: at my own the packages like okay this I used
Speaker 6: to think, okay, we'll put XX and in it, and I can't,
Speaker 6: you know, I remember, save me some.
Speaker 2: Shipping costs there right, Well you know it doesn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a much I have to figure out too.
Speaker 6: I'm like, you can't just send people one thing, you know,
Speaker 6: Like I try to give some variety, but it's harder
Speaker 6: and harder. You know, if you look at a you know,
Speaker 6: Walking Liberty or Franklin or Kennedy half dollar, I mean, David,
Speaker 6: that's like forty dollars of melt right now, Like that,
Speaker 6: just just that half dollar. We used to be able
Speaker 6: to put that into a lone wolf, and it's over
Speaker 6: forty dollars in melt just for the halves. And so
Speaker 6: I put a silver dollar yesterday in the Warrior Wolves,
Speaker 6: which like one twenty five, and I think we can
Speaker 6: squeeze out of gold back on top of It's it's
Speaker 6: just insane, and so it's it's harder and harder to
Speaker 6: do what we do, and then you know, finding quality
Speaker 6: variety to put in the packs, and that's just because
Speaker 6: of the price.
Speaker 2: I got a question for you from somebody left on
Speaker 2: X for you yesterday. It is from somebody account called
Speaker 2: non Identity. They said, when the US dollar collapses, what
Speaker 2: happens to the money and people's bank accounts? Like Elon
Speaker 2: who says we're not going to have any money. It's like, so,
Speaker 2: why are you so hell bent on accumulating a trillion
Speaker 2: dollar net worth? But what happens to his money when
Speaker 2: it when the dollar becomes worthless, everything.
Speaker 6: Gets It's a really interesting question. And that kind of
Speaker 6: that kind of presupposes that they will still hold dollars
Speaker 6: in the last days of the doll like in the
Speaker 6: in the final act of whatever. The dollar's role is
Speaker 6: right now, And I don't think the dollar is going
Speaker 6: to ultimately collapse collapse like over and I don't think
Speaker 6: it'll have something like that. I think it'll be a
Speaker 6: decline that gives people some time to exit. Those people
Speaker 6: with the golden parachutes. And you've got to remember too
Speaker 6: that they have to play a certain game. They have
Speaker 6: to hold a certain amount of dollars. I believe this
Speaker 6: is the way that I think their ticket, their their
Speaker 6: acceptance at the table of whatever billionaires do. I think
Speaker 6: they have to hold a certain amount of dollars in
Speaker 6: the system. So I think it probably would be an
Speaker 6: exit right beforehand. Like if you want to look closely
Speaker 6: see where these billionaires and others are going up in
Speaker 6: this timeline to see where you should go. And I
Speaker 6: think they'll be placing more into physical assets along in
Speaker 6: the next two to three years, see massive flows out
Speaker 6: of the dollar and into it could be even real
Speaker 6: estate or I think, but it'll be commodities, yeah, and
Speaker 6: something that's even maybe even two gold back stable coin
Speaker 6: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like the dilemma that the central banks have,
Speaker 2: right if they don't like holding the dollar, but they
Speaker 2: can't just dump it all at once or they make
Speaker 2: their own holdings worthless. And so it has to be
Speaker 2: a gradual process to get out of that as well.
Speaker 2: And I've got some more questions here for you. This
Speaker 2: is from Malutin Milankovic says, should we think about platinum?
Speaker 2: It seems low. It used to be on par with gold.
Speaker 6: Yeah, platinum really surprised me. I hadn't paid attention to
Speaker 6: it in a while. I mean, I own some platinum,
Speaker 6: and my shop has inventory of platinum just because we
Speaker 6: bought it from people and just held it. But I remember,
Speaker 6: for the for the longest time, I would always do
Speaker 6: you know the platinum spot price. I'm like, oh, here,
Speaker 6: it's eight nine hundred, eight nine hundred. It would always
Speaker 6: be there, like in the eight nine to one hundred,
Speaker 6: two one thousand, rained And then one day I looked
Speaker 6: up and it's two thousand and it's more. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6: It just really surprised me, and I said, is that right?
Speaker 6: And I'd go back through and recalculate. Yeah, platinum is
Speaker 6: a is a good play. I don't do enough of it.
Speaker 6: I hold some of it just because I mean, long term,
Speaker 6: any of you to remember any of these medals, if
Speaker 6: you can physically hold them and buy them at a
Speaker 6: good price and you're not just paying some collectible fee
Speaker 6: or some nonsense. If you can get in there and
Speaker 6: just hold them long term, you're going to make out. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean it's real, it's going to happen. It's real,
Speaker 6: and people need to make things out of it. And
Speaker 6: I think platinum they need that for these catalytic converters.
Speaker 6: And although I'd.
Speaker 2: Be the first to say you don't need a catalytic converter,
Speaker 2: that you actually have to have them these cars. And
Speaker 2: so as a matter of fact, when I cut mine
Speaker 2: off to it to a shop and I was able
Speaker 2: to sell it because of the platinum that was in it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's that Guard Goldsmith liberty conspiracy says.
Speaker 2: Catoni discussed the change and importance of the collectible quality
Speaker 2: of a gold or silver coin versus the metal content
Speaker 2: during rough economic times.
Speaker 6: I love collectible historic coins. It's part of the interest
Speaker 6: of why I like the business that I'm in. But
Speaker 6: you have to be it's like real estate. And it's like,
Speaker 6: I see a lot of interesting coins, even non gold
Speaker 6: and silver coins, And I've bought coins from the Roman
Speaker 6: Empire at my shops and very very old coins, you know,
Speaker 6: the Spanish silver dollars, the pieces of eight and things
Speaker 6: like that. Pirate money. I literally bought you know, pirate
Speaker 6: money over the years. But you have to remember, it's
Speaker 6: just like anything else, something is worth what somebody will
Speaker 6: pay for it. So if you're interested in historic coins
Speaker 6: or something like that, just make sure you're not going
Speaker 6: too far into the blue sky of you know, ethereal Worth.
Speaker 6: You know, people call me all the time say I
Speaker 6: had looked it up online and this quarter is worth
Speaker 6: ten thousand dollars. I'm like, well, maybe it is if
Speaker 6: you could sell it, I mean, and I just you know,
Speaker 6: that's a it's a very small pool of people that
Speaker 6: do collectibles, and you got to know who those people are.
Speaker 6: And I've been in business for ten years and I
Speaker 6: don't know many people. It's so I did, and I
Speaker 6: haven't been asked. You know, no one calls our phone
Speaker 6: and says, hey, I'm really looking for this, you know,
Speaker 6: eighteen seventy nine gold coin and it's you know, it's
Speaker 6: a Carson City or whatever, and I want to pay
Speaker 6: Nobody really does that. It doesn't mean it's not out there,
Speaker 6: but i'd be really careful. I think it's a good
Speaker 6: time time to buy some of the pre nineteen thirty
Speaker 6: three gold if you know the right people that you're
Speaker 6: not paying too much. That's always a good American pre
Speaker 6: nineteen thirty three gold is always a good play. I
Speaker 6: like the five dollars, ten dollars and two and a
Speaker 6: half dollars Indians too. Those are just a really iconic
Speaker 6: looking and beautiful coins. And right now you can still
Speaker 6: get them for closer to the to the melt price,
Speaker 6: which is insane right now.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like, I guess the comic book thing.
Speaker 2: I had a lot of I guess I learned how
Speaker 2: to read reading comic books as how my mom would
Speaker 2: keep me busy and before I started school. And so
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of really old comic books and
Speaker 2: some of them are supposed to be pretty valuable. But
Speaker 2: you got to find somebody who's going to pay that
Speaker 2: for it, right That's the real issue. That's any kind
Speaker 2: of collectible, you know what you're talking about. And you've
Speaker 2: got to get it graded, so somebody, independent party has
Speaker 2: certified you know what this thing is and condition it's in,
Speaker 2: and so you always get a that with a collectibles
Speaker 2: And I guess my bigger question would be if society
Speaker 2: breaks down, how do you evaluate the purity of gold
Speaker 2: if you're not a dealer? Right? You know, when somebody
Speaker 2: gives you a piece of gold, you got the capability
Speaker 2: to do that, But how does ordinary person evaluate that
Speaker 2: this isn't a slug, that it's coated in something if
Speaker 2: you're trying to exchange with somebody else, right.
Speaker 6: Well, I would you can cheaply get a coin book,
Speaker 6: you know, off Amazon. That'd be a great place to start,
Speaker 6: just twenty twenty six Guide to US Coins. That's a
Speaker 6: good place because you can especially if it's not bullion,
Speaker 6: you know, you can see, you know how much it weighs,
Speaker 6: what it would be worth in that climate. And then
Speaker 6: you know a few things that you could get a
Speaker 6: rare earth magnet for a few dollars, and that's easy,
Speaker 6: like a little rectangle, get a rare earth magnet. Make
Speaker 6: sure it doesn't pull the magnet. That's one way to
Speaker 6: do it. And then weighing it. Weight is really important.
Speaker 6: It's like the diameter and the weight. Now, they have
Speaker 6: some really good fakes now, And if I was this
Speaker 6: was a you know, a post dollar system and I
Speaker 6: was borthering, I'd make sure that I stayed in small denominations.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't take one ounce gold unless I could verify
Speaker 6: it myself, unless there was some verification process. But if
Speaker 6: you stick to the smaller stuff, that's why I think.
Speaker 2: That Okay, sorry audio cut out there from m.
Speaker 6: Oh did it?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. That's why I think the smaller
Speaker 2: stuff here, okay, in terms.
Speaker 6: Of smaller stuff would be much better. And I do
Speaker 6: believe too that there that's where the pre nineteen sixty
Speaker 6: five US silver would become very valuable because it's hard.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's very few fakes of those. They do
Speaker 6: fake then that you can generally tell and about the
Speaker 6: weight and the patina and like the look of them.
Speaker 6: So that's where that would come in really handy to
Speaker 6: have a good stock of pre nineteen sixty five silver.
Speaker 2: That's really important to know. Yeah, I'm looking at this
Speaker 2: article here, Micovery of robobank is saying exactly the opposite
Speaker 2: of Jerome Pally says the Gold move is a vote
Speaker 2: of no confidence in the entire global financial architecture. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's much bigger than just a federal reserve. Ray Dalio
Speaker 2: said the same thing. It is a global situation and
Speaker 2: nothing is changing about any of that. It's only going
Speaker 2: to get worse, and it's going to get worse at
Speaker 2: an increasing rate. I think we're going to see Tony.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's very important for people to understand that.
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to tell us about what's happening
Speaker 2: at wise Wolf Gold this week, besides the snow and
Speaker 2: got snow and you've got rapidly accelerating prices. It's a
Speaker 2: difficult environment to work in, isn't it.
Speaker 6: It was kind of a blessing to have a few
Speaker 6: days from my crew, especially, they've been I'm really proud
Speaker 6: of them. They've been stretched to their limits, you know,
Speaker 6: trying to balance stuff and do placking and all the rest.
Speaker 6: So we're going to dip our toe back into the
Speaker 6: water officially today. We'll see how how things go. But
Speaker 6: just keeping the doors open. I think this. You know,
Speaker 6: we've got wonderful customers and we appreciate your audience, and
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's gonna it's gonna balance out, I think,
Speaker 6: and hold for a little while. Very soon it will
Speaker 6: be some sort of profit taking and other things. But
Speaker 6: I don't. I think we're in a territory where you know,
Speaker 6: patience will serve you. Well, that's right, making any sort
Speaker 6: of I think big moves right now as far as
Speaker 6: selling or anything. I think if you can hold, if
Speaker 6: you can afford it, I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just That's what we've been telling people
Speaker 2: for longest time. It's not just one thing. Right. If
Speaker 2: it's just one thing, that one thing could change very quickly,
Speaker 2: but it's a whole constellation of multiple things that are
Speaker 2: coming together all at once and creating this perfect storm
Speaker 2: for the monetary system. And it is the time that
Speaker 2: we live in no doubt about it. Well, it's always
Speaker 2: a pleasure talking to you, Tony, and I know the
Speaker 2: people who have done business with you are very happy
Speaker 2: that at this point that they've done business with you.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, have a portion of your wealth
Speaker 2: that's going to be in diversified in something that has
Speaker 2: been stable. And it's not that that gold is getting
Speaker 2: unstable or silver is getting unstable. When we see the
Speaker 2: prices changing. That is really, as we pointed out, that's
Speaker 2: the reflection of what you're pricing gold and silver in
Speaker 2: being unstable, whether it's the US dollar or some other currency.
Speaker 2: And so what we're looking at here when we see
Speaker 2: these dollar values changing so rapidly, you know, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like a hyperinflation. You've got a loaf of bread
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you know you've got to
Speaker 2: have a lot more somoleans to get that bread. I mean,
Speaker 2: the bread is appreciating in value like that, but it's
Speaker 2: it's that the currency is going down. And that's really
Speaker 2: what we're seeing here, a lot of different things coming together.
Speaker 2: And again I only see it getting worse once gets
Speaker 2: old of the Federal Reserve. He is an agent of
Speaker 2: chaos and people are going to be scared to death
Speaker 2: about it what he's going to do, whether he does
Speaker 2: anything or not with it. But I expect him to
Speaker 2: do something with it, so we'll see I do too.
Speaker 6: I think that's I think it's a foregone conclusion, and
Speaker 6: I think the market's already starting to somewhat price that in.
Speaker 2: H what's always great talking to you, Thank you so much, Tony,
Speaker 2: and again you can go to David Knight dot Gold
Speaker 2: and that'll take you to Tony at Wisewolf Gold and
Speaker 2: let him know that you came through us. Thank you, Tony.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. All right, folks are going
Speaker 2: to take a real quick break and we will be
Speaker 2: right back. Stay with us.
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Speaker 2: He says, don't tear a fence down unless you understand
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Speaker 2: treat everybody that they disagree with. They treat somebody if
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Speaker 2: treat everybody that is not someone that is part of
Speaker 2: their club, part of their tribe. Everyone is treated with contempt.
Speaker 2: This will have such a big problem with Warpete and
Speaker 2: a church that he attends. Somebody needs to talk to
Speaker 2: that guy needs to be some discipline about that, because
Speaker 2: it's about us being human beings. Here again, the story
Speaker 2: that we showed earlier, the height of close combat weaponry
Speaker 2: is on this woman's doorstep. Federal agents are using the
Speaker 2: instruments of war, fine tuned and perfected for killing at
Speaker 2: short range. And again the weapons of defense abroad, James
Speaker 2: Madison said, are always always used as instruments of tyranny
Speaker 2: at home, always, and we're seeing it again now so again,
Speaker 2: seven or eight dangerous Barney five clowns wind up on
Speaker 2: our doorstep, all of them like they are in battle
Speaker 2: in a rock or Afghanistan. And actually this is an
Speaker 2: article written by Thomas gibbons Neff, who was deployed twice
Speaker 2: to Afghanistan as a marine, said images of immigration crackdown
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis across the US have been likened to those
Speaker 2: in the country's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Helmets, camouflage,
Speaker 2: Why do you need camouflage in an American city? Somebody
Speaker 2: explained that to me, it only makes you stand out
Speaker 2: if you got a bunch of white suburban houses or something. Right, So, helmets, camouflage,
Speaker 2: and tactical gear all look straight from the battlefield. Nowhere
Speaker 2: is that more important than that single photo that was
Speaker 2: in that article taken on January eleventh by the Associated Press,
Speaker 2: A line of federal agents on the doorstep of a
Speaker 2: woman's home, rifles in hand, and probably some of them
Speaker 2: pointing at her. The agent's equipment tells its own story.
Speaker 2: Their gear is the physical manifestation of decades of war,
Speaker 2: fine tuned and perfected for close quarter killing over myriad
Speaker 2: operations and far away lands, now wielded in broad daylight
Speaker 2: and American cities. This equipment is often reserved for swat
Speaker 2: and hostage rescue units, which is why I say, you
Speaker 2: know you look at something like a hostage rescue unit.
Speaker 2: LN Horyucci, the FBI sniper who was part of the
Speaker 2: hostage rescue unit. What do you do? He shot Vicky
Speaker 2: Weaver right between the eyes as she was holding a baby,
Speaker 2: Randy Weaver's wife. That was point blank for somebody who
Speaker 2: was a sniper. He was so close. There was no
Speaker 2: excuse for that. What did our government do?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: That happened under the George H. W. Bush administration, and
Speaker 2: these same people were involved with Waco right after the
Speaker 2: beginning of the Clinton administration. They got medals, They got medals.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, same thing's going to happen with
Speaker 2: these guys in Minnesota. Quint blank murder armed with a
Speaker 2: baby in her hands. Well, again, the other thing that
Speaker 2: we're seeing here is the attack on gun rights. Alex
Speaker 2: Petty's death widens a split between Trump and gun rights groups.
Speaker 2: Says Reason federal officials suggesting that carrying a firearm is
Speaker 2: inherently threatening and an invitation to police violence. I can
Speaker 2: I say this is nothing new. This has always been
Speaker 2: the position of New York City Democrat Donald Trump. He
Speaker 2: has never appreciated firearms. I think, just like Scott Bessont
Speaker 2: went on with Jonathan Carl the other day. I think
Speaker 2: neither one of the two, neither of them had ever
Speaker 2: touched a gun. It's like, have you been you know?
Speaker 2: He asked Jonathan Carl the reporter. Bessont asked him, have
Speaker 2: you ever been to a protest and carrying a gun?
Speaker 2: And the other guy's oh, I've never even been to
Speaker 2: a protest. And of course, you know, Bessant always protected
Speaker 2: with an army of private bodyguards who are armed to
Speaker 2: the teeth. They have no appreciation of what self defense
Speaker 2: is for the rest of the people. And so federal
Speaker 2: officials are describing this as a domestic terrorist. I would
Speaker 2: be assassin who wanted to do maximum damage and to
Speaker 2: massacre law enforcement. Those are quotes. The only evidence to
Speaker 2: support these characterizations is the fact that he was carrying
Speaker 2: a concealed handgun, which he was legally allowed to do.
Speaker 2: As I said before, he complied with a lot of
Speaker 2: laws that I don't think are constitutional. I don't when
Speaker 2: we look at these carry things. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: carry a gun. If I were to go through New
Speaker 2: Jersey or New York or something like that, I would
Speaker 2: never take a gun with me going up there. So
Speaker 2: I don't go up there, stay away from those places,
Speaker 2: although videos of the incident show pretty never drew the weapon,
Speaker 2: let alone threaten the agents with it. Several officials portrayed
Speaker 2: his exercise the constitutional right to keeping bear arms as
Speaker 2: inherently suspicious. These officials are Trump cons people who do
Speaker 2: not know or appreciate the rule of law or constitutional
Speaker 2: rights protected rights. So the Homeland Security said on Saturday
Speaker 2: that he approached US Border patrol officers with the nine
Speaker 2: millimeter or semi automatical hand gun, Therefore he is a terrorist, right.
Speaker 2: They neglected to mention that the agents didn't see the
Speaker 2: holstered gun until after they tackled him, and the officers
Speaker 2: attempted to disarm him, but the armed suspect violently resisted,
Speaker 2: said DHS, omitting the fact that the agent had removed
Speaker 2: the gun by the time the shooting started. And even worse,
Speaker 2: if you look at the guy who does some of
Speaker 2: the initial shooting, pulls out his gun first right, pointing
Speaker 2: it at his back. He's watching the gun being taken away.
Speaker 2: So there's no excuse for any of this stuff. They're
Speaker 2: trying to come up and with an excuse and pinning
Speaker 2: it on the SIG that's been reported to accidentally misfire,
Speaker 2: and of course that is a real thing that has happened.
Speaker 2: That's not what happened here. And he's carried this, says
Speaker 2: his wife, for several years. He's been carrying this gun,
Speaker 2: and he's been in fights with the police carrying guns
Speaker 2: with this. As we saw with the recently surfaced yesterday
Speaker 2: BBC clip, you could see they had the gun stuck
Speaker 2: in his waistband behind him and it didn't go off
Speaker 2: then either, Cash Battel what an amazing I would say,
Speaker 2: disappointment for the Maga people. He's got to be I
Speaker 2: never thought they would be that good in this position,
Speaker 2: but they thought it was going to be great. Look
Speaker 2: at this, We've got cash Hotel, we got Dan Bongino.
Speaker 2: Well Bongino's out of this now. But Cash matel claimed
Speaker 2: that his possession of a handgun was illegal. Quote, you
Speaker 2: cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any
Speaker 2: sort of a protest that you want. He said, you
Speaker 2: don't have a right to break the law. Well, it's
Speaker 2: not breaking the law, and you do have a right
Speaker 2: to carry a firearm for your protection. And as I
Speaker 2: said before hundreds of people the Alamo protests that were armed,
Speaker 2: openly carrying, because the purpose of the protest was to
Speaker 2: talk about changing the carry laws in Texas to make
Speaker 2: them align more with the Constitution. So everybody there except
Speaker 2: for those of us who are shooting cameras, everybody else
Speaker 2: was carrying rifles. So again, this guy, Bill Esselee, the
Speaker 2: first Assistant US Attorney for the Central District of California,
Speaker 2: I've talked about this yesterday, said if you approach law
Speaker 2: enforcement with a gun, there's a high likelihood they'll be
Speaker 2: legally justified in shooting. You don't do it. And that's
Speaker 2: the point at which Gun Owners of America and now
Speaker 2: even the National Rifle Association has jumped in said they
Speaker 2: call the comments dangerous and wrong. So their statement was
Speaker 2: not nearly as strong as Gun Owners of America, but
Speaker 2: at least they did finally say something. Trump did not
Speaker 2: explicitly say that he invited his own death by carrying
Speaker 2: a gun, but he did portray that conduct as troubling.
Speaker 2: He said, I don't like it when somebody goes into
Speaker 2: a protest and he's got a very powerful, fully loaded
Speaker 2: gun with two magazines. Well, again, he's been carrying that
Speaker 2: for quite some time. He went through all of the
Speaker 2: unconstitutional legal loopholes that they put out there. I would
Speaker 2: call him entrapments, but he did all that stuff. So
Speaker 2: Trump is validly committed to quote unquote protecting Second Amendment rights,
Speaker 2: said his Justice Apartment. How can anybody believe that if
Speaker 2: you believe that you're not paying attention, He's done more
Speaker 2: to set precedents of gun control than any other Republican
Speaker 2: president in my life, not even close. So these Trump
Speaker 2: cons are basically just Democrat wolves in conservative clothing. Getting
Speaker 2: back to what can we really do about this? And
Speaker 2: I mentioned this beginning of the program. Joe Scarborough said
Speaker 2: he was struck that he would agree with Sean Hendy
Speaker 2: on ice. He said, what Sean Handy is saying, most
Speaker 2: Americans believe that. And Joe Scarbo says, because remember before
Speaker 2: he got on with Mika Brazinski, he used to be
Speaker 2: a Republican And he said, back in the nineties, I
Speaker 2: was saying the same thing. So what is it that
Speaker 2: Sean Hennedy said, Well, he said these are people that
Speaker 2: he goes when they're going in and rating places like
Speaker 2: home depot. Sean Handy said a responsible program should come forward.
Speaker 2: He said raids on stores are not a good idea,
Speaker 2: he said. Undocumented immigrants working there are not the immediate problem.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. They're not the typically the rapists and
Speaker 2: so forth and so on. If you want to go
Speaker 2: after rapists once you get the Epstein list, Department of
Speaker 2: Justice put ice on the so me saying suggest that
Speaker 2: a program could be to offer to those who come forward,
Speaker 2: people who have come here illegal and again they violate
Speaker 2: the law, but it's a misdemeanor. Come forward, tell us
Speaker 2: that you're here. We'll pay your way home, we'll pay
Speaker 2: for you to fly back home, and then you can
Speaker 2: apply to get back into the country legally, and we'll
Speaker 2: give that consideration the fact that you want to try
Speaker 2: to get legal again. Sean Handy said, I think that'd
Speaker 2: be a much more responsible, reasonable way to deal with
Speaker 2: this problem. And again I would say no welfare, no
Speaker 2: welfare magnet, even for legal immigrants. If you want to
Speaker 2: come to this country, show that you can support yourself,
Speaker 2: that you have the ability to support your family as well,
Speaker 2: that you want to be an American, not because you
Speaker 2: want free stuff, but because you want freedom.
Speaker 8: And the other thing is dealing with what is the
Speaker 8: immediate problem, which is the massive amount of immigrants, that
Speaker 8: illegal immigrants that get arrested and then just let go
Speaker 8: they commit a rape or murder or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, reform our own justice system so called, because over
Speaker 2: and over again they brag back, oh, look at this,
Speaker 2: we just arrested this person that had done this two
Speaker 2: dozen times. Right, whatever, the violent crime is rape or
Speaker 2: robbery or murder or whatever, probably not murder but close
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 8: Where they commit what is clearly a murder and then
Speaker 8: they get let off with basically no bail.
Speaker 2: That's right. And so it said, look at this, you
Speaker 2: know it's people are roaming the street. Ask yourself, why
Speaker 2: are they roaming the street when we have the American
Speaker 2: governments are identified them as being suspects in a crime.
Speaker 2: Why would they be let go?
Speaker 8: But Ice is busy going to home depot rather than
Speaker 8: going to the police departments to get them. As they're
Speaker 8: being process they've already had their IDs taken at this point,
Speaker 8: they have had their identities paid, their identity papers checked.
Speaker 2: That's right. Do you talk about low hanging fruit? You
Speaker 2: go to the courthouses or the places where they are
Speaker 2: processing the immigrations that these people are applying to get
Speaker 2: a green cart or whatever. They're trying to comply with
Speaker 2: the law, admittedly well after the fact, but still they
Speaker 2: go there and start arresting people. These are not criminals
Speaker 2: in the true sense of the word. I mean, they've
Speaker 2: committed a crime coming in over the border, but the
Speaker 2: real crime is the welfare system and you need to
Speaker 2: stop that. Scarborough played back the clip of Sean Hannity
Speaker 2: and he said, yeah, this is what I've championed all
Speaker 2: along since i was a Republican congressman. He said, it
Speaker 2: struck me because I had that position when I was
Speaker 2: a congressman back in nineteen ninety four, and I'm struck
Speaker 2: that the administration didn't begin with that. How about voluntary
Speaker 2: will help you to voluntarily deport yourself, and then let's
Speaker 2: cut the welfare magnet and then let's take a look
Speaker 2: at the people who are coming in. No, they don't
Speaker 2: start with that. Instead, they want this policy of confrontation.
Speaker 2: They deliberately want conflict. That's what's going on here. And
Speaker 2: their agenda doesn't have anything to do with protecting the borders.
Speaker 2: Their agenda is to take down all of the boundaries
Speaker 2: of law. Understand that that's the real agenda, said most
Speaker 2: Americans believe that if you're here illegally, you should be deported.
Speaker 2: As Sean Hannity said, people have been talking about this
Speaker 2: for years. Give people money to give back home. Then
Speaker 2: have these people are reapplied to come back to America.
Speaker 2: You get in line with all people from all over
Speaker 2: the world that are applying and try to do this
Speaker 2: the correct way. But if you've been in America for
Speaker 2: a long time, if you've been a law abiding citizen,
Speaker 2: not citizens, but if you've been law abiding, if you've
Speaker 2: been and if you're an asylum seeker, certainly, if you've
Speaker 2: had children that are here that have served in the military,
Speaker 2: you should be at the front of the line. But
Speaker 2: you know, leave the country and come back in, We'll
Speaker 2: put you at the front of the line for some
Speaker 2: of those considerations. He said, Well, it's very unfortunate for
Speaker 2: this country, and the politically unfortunate for the administration and
Speaker 2: four Republicans is that it's taken them this long to
Speaker 2: express this publicly in the face of some violent tactics
Speaker 2: over the past six to nine months. I just want
Speaker 2: to repeat this because I don't think I know Republicans
Speaker 2: watch this, and I don't think they listen. Sometimes to
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. No, they don't. Who watches Joe Scarborough anymore?
Speaker 2: Only his tribe, But they go, well, oh Joe's a lefty,
Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna watch this, I said. But I've
Speaker 2: been saying this from the very beginning. So now is
Speaker 2: a good thing that Sean Hennerity is saying this. So
Speaker 2: looking at this from the outside, the Mirror in the
Speaker 2: UK says there's four areas where Trump has got a
Speaker 2: real problem and he is being heckled, ridiculed and embarrassed
Speaker 2: in these four different areas. They said, Trump's second term
Speaker 2: is rapidly unraveling, with a sense spreading beyond his critics
Speaker 2: to senior Republicans and furious MAGA voters, and he is
Speaker 2: in many cases being heckled by his own supporters. And
Speaker 2: this just happened on Tuesday night in Iowa, a place
Speaker 2: that has been a stronghold for Trump and for the
Speaker 2: Trump cons, his own supporters angry over rising prices, over
Speaker 2: broken economic promises, over the killing of US citizens by
Speaker 2: his immigration goon squads, and also over the Epstein stuff
Speaker 2: which hangs over everything.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I've seen some people say, well, the Epstein stuff is
Speaker 2: a distraction. No, it's not. It's central to all of this.
Speaker 2: It really is, especially for the MAGA people who were
Speaker 2: told for a very long time Trump is out there
Speaker 2: he's rounding up all these pedophile rings and everything. Then
Speaker 2: they find out that he's actually the head of them,
Speaker 2: on the heads of the pedophile rings. And when you
Speaker 2: look at Trump doesn't believe that it's a distraction or
Speaker 2: hoax either. Look at how hard they have worked to
Speaker 2: keep this concealed. Look at how much political capital they
Speaker 2: have expended to keep this concealed. And so you have
Speaker 2: to ask yourself when he's gotten this much criticism for
Speaker 2: keeping the Epstein information and protecting these predators that were
Speaker 2: part of this club that he was a part of,
Speaker 2: when he works so hard for that takes so much
Speaker 2: criticism for it, got to ask yourself how much more
Speaker 2: is in there? How much it's got to be much
Speaker 2: worse than the bad criticism that he's getting right now
Speaker 2: if that were to be a public And so the
Speaker 2: four areas he's talking about here, of course, are the
Speaker 2: Ice shootings and the Maga revolt, especially because of the
Speaker 2: anti Second Amendment position that we could early see now
Speaker 2: is the core belief of these Trump cons people like
Speaker 2: Trump at their core, people like Trump this sorrow Sky,
Speaker 2: Scott Bessett that he made secretary of the Treasury. These
Speaker 2: people at their core are no different from Chuck Schumer
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Second Amendment, no different whatsoever.
Speaker 2: They despise and fear people who have guns if they're
Speaker 2: not under their command. So again, the people like Pee
Speaker 2: Wee German, Steven Miller, they point out, these people immediately
Speaker 2: cast Pretty as a violent threat, smearing him in ways
Speaker 2: that have since been contradicted by video evidence and eyewitness accounts,
Speaker 2: and efforts to justify the killing by absurd lies and
Speaker 2: character assassination, which is what we always see. They really
Speaker 2: discredited themselves. And then the Greenland gambit, big talk and
Speaker 2: little return. I would say, zero return. You know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of interesting. There was a movie that came out.
Speaker 2: I looked at it and I kind of remembered it
Speaker 2: from my childhood, how disappointed I was in the Peter
Speaker 2: Sellers movie. And I saw the pictures of it, and
Speaker 2: so these guys in armor and mad spears and bows
Speaker 2: and ears, and I thought it's gonna be pretty good.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like four years old. But it was
Speaker 2: really it was way over my head. The mouth the
Speaker 2: mouse that right, And basically I'll play the short little
Speaker 2: trailer for you to give you the idea of it.
Speaker 2: It's a small country that declares war with America. We've
Speaker 2: kind of reversed this whole thing with the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: We've gone from the mouse that roared Trump has become
Speaker 2: the mouth that roared. Why is the smallest country on
Speaker 2: earth declaring war against the United States.
Speaker 6: There isn't a more profitable undertaking for any country than
Speaker 6: to decare war on the United States and to be defeated.
Speaker 5: No sooner is the aggressive defeated than the Americans bore
Speaker 5: in food, machinery, clothing.
Speaker 2: Technical aid, and lots and lots of money for.
Speaker 6: The relief of its former enemies.
Speaker 2: We must decare war on the United States. I'm Field
Speaker 2: Marshal and Chief Comfortable Talleybascom and your prisoners of war.
Speaker 2: I know it will come as a surprise, a pleasant one,
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 8: But we thought of.
Speaker 6: One glittering idiot.
Speaker 2: And what are they going to do now?
Speaker 9: How am I going to tell the President that we've
Speaker 9: been successfully invaded by a bunch of fifteen century Europeans.
Speaker 6: This is most tenably complicated to Peter Sellers.
Speaker 1: Peter Sellers and Peter Sellers in the comedy classic The
Speaker 1: Mouse that Roared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that little mouse has got a crown just
Speaker 2: like Trump. Really, he has been the mouth that roared.
Speaker 2: He's done this in reverse. He decided and threatened this little,
Speaker 2: tiny country, and he didn't get anything out of it
Speaker 2: that he didn't already have. He had the treaty that
Speaker 2: let him put military bases there. It was, as they
Speaker 2: point out here, one of the most farcical moments of
Speaker 2: his presidency, a stunt that landed with a thud and
Speaker 2: was laughed off from Copenhagen to Brussels. Vague talk of
Speaker 2: strategic interests of produced precisely nothing beyond diplomatic eye rolling
Speaker 2: and quiet embarrassment. For Washington, the episode became a neat
Speaker 2: reflection of deeper doubts about Trump's grasp of foreign policy.
Speaker 2: The White House build this as toughsionary deal making, looking
Speaker 2: instead like amateur geopolitics, wildly out of step with reality.
Speaker 2: Allies reacted with cool disdain, while polls at home showed
Speaker 2: scant public support, underlining how detached the idea was from
Speaker 2: the concerns of most Americans, and I would say, and
Speaker 2: how detached from reality. It was worse still, the Greenland
Speaker 2: side show strained already brittle relations with NATO partners in
Speaker 2: European governments, fueling fresh rose and diplomatic friction. Instead of
Speaker 2: producing strength, Trump weakened America's standing, turning a supposed power
Speaker 2: play into another self inflicted wound on the world stage.
Speaker 2: It's difficult to tell the difference between and the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: between geopolitics and ego politics. And it's just by moving
Speaker 2: that G that stands for Greenland anyway. Economic gripes then
Speaker 2: as we see tariffs, inflation continuing and Trump lying to
Speaker 2: your face about the prices that you're paying everywhere. So again,
Speaker 2: the economy is always a big part of it. But
Speaker 2: then the Epstein files, as they point out in this
Speaker 2: article from The Mirror, the single biggest threat, and I
Speaker 2: agree with that. I mean, the Royal family is a
Speaker 2: lot more experienced in terms of dealing with pr issues
Speaker 2: and optics whatever. You know, your opinion of them is,
Speaker 2: they've had a lot of experience and they needed that
Speaker 2: kind of experience because of the way the Royal family is.
Speaker 2: But they were quick to do damage control with Prince Andrew.
Speaker 2: Not so with the Trump administration. I mean they went
Speaker 2: in exactly the opposite direction. Instead of trying to distance
Speaker 2: himself from all this and trying to be as transparent
Speaker 2: as possible, he tried to be as opaque and hidden
Speaker 2: again with the blatant, obvious lies. Oh it's all a
Speaker 2: hoax type of stuff. So one motive looms over Trump's presidency.
Speaker 2: Distraction critics argue the rolling crises, the ice crackdowns, of
Speaker 2: foreign policy stunts, and the culture war flare ups are
Speaker 2: self created for a single reason to drag attention away
Speaker 2: from the overdue release of the Jeffrey Epstein files. Well,
Speaker 2: it's not the single reason. I mean that is his
Speaker 2: mode of operation always because he comes from a professional
Speaker 2: wrestling background, those documents pose the greatest threat to Trump.
Speaker 2: Despite bipartisan legislation mandating disclosures, administration has been accused of
Speaker 2: delaying and obstructing the process, with less than one percent
Speaker 2: released so far, a drip feed that is only fueled
Speaker 2: claims of a cover up. At stake are more than
Speaker 2: a million files and renewed scrutiny of Trump's friendship Jeffrey Epstein. Again,
Speaker 2: when you look at all that this has cost him,
Speaker 2: and he thinks that it's worth it to pay that price.
Speaker 2: You got to imagine just how damaging the truth would
Speaker 2: be when it comes out. Trump's presence is not imploding
Speaker 2: in a single dramatic moment. It is rotting in plain sight.
Speaker 2: The coalition that carried him to power is splintering. His
Speaker 2: cracks are widened by infighting over ice, brutality, foreign policy blunders,
Speaker 2: a grinding cost of living crisis, and the toxic shadow
Speaker 2: of the Epstein files. What once passed for control now
Speaker 2: looks like chaos, colliding from every direction. This is no
Speaker 2: longer a presidency that is shaping events. It is one
Speaker 2: that is lurching from crisis to crisis, forever on the
Speaker 2: back foot. The man who promised strength and dominance is
Speaker 2: reduced to damage limitation, frantically trying to smother backlash, to
Speaker 2: shore up shrinking base and spin away from scandal. With
Speaker 2: a November midterms closing in, Trump's grip on power looks
Speaker 2: weaker by the day, and the consequences of failure have
Speaker 2: never been clear. I think it is going to be
Speaker 2: a big sea change. As a matter of fact, this
Speaker 2: article from Futurism says, even Palenteer staff are now disgusted
Speaker 2: with ICE. They're writing, this is an internal meeting that
Speaker 2: they had and people took notes of it. And as
Speaker 2: people criticize Pallenteer's role in what was happening with ICE,
Speaker 2: you got to look at this and say, did they
Speaker 2: not do due diligence before they signed on to this company?
Speaker 2: Did they not know what this company was really about.
Speaker 2: One of the people said, in my opinion, Ice are
Speaker 2: the bad guys, and we're helping them.
Speaker 8: And so the other hand, though, I feel like the
Speaker 8: people Pallenteer are like, wait a minute, we were signing
Speaker 8: up to press Americans illegal, not non Americans.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So as Futurism says, well, you
Speaker 2: don't under any circumstances say you got to hand it
Speaker 2: to Palenteer, a company known for its AI surveillance and
Speaker 2: it's battlefield tech and who's CEO, Alex Krp, has mused
Speaker 2: about legalizing war crimes. But you have to admit it's
Speaker 2: pretty striking to hear that even some of the company's
Speaker 2: own employees are starting to feel disgusted about ICE and
Speaker 2: what they see happening here. The brutal crackdown. After federal
Speaker 2: agents shot and killed Alex Petti on Saturday, some Palenteer
Speaker 2: employees began openly questioning the work the company was doing
Speaker 2: with Homeland Security. One. In my opinion, I s are
Speaker 2: the bad guys, and I'm not proud of the company.
Speaker 2: I enjoy working for so much.
Speaker 8: Part of this, he said, nobody tell them what they're
Speaker 8: doing with IDF.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, yeah. Ignorance is bliss, isn't it. This
Speaker 2: is somebody who obviously doesn't watch our program or any
Speaker 2: other news if they don't realize what Palenteer is doing,
Speaker 2: says thinking pragmatically, is the reputational damage that we're taking
Speaker 2: for being associated with them worth it? What if the
Speaker 2: next administration will be democratic and they cut all the
Speaker 2: contracts with us? You know, he should think about the
Speaker 2: putational damage that he'll have as a software engineer working
Speaker 2: for Palenteer. Would anybody else want to hire somebody like that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. So we needed to have an understanding
Speaker 2: of our involvement here, said another one. The protests are
Speaker 2: raised in a company wide slack channel that was dedicated
Speaker 2: to discussing news items. Many of the posts that were
Speaker 2: either critical of ICE or question Polentteer's involvement with the
Speaker 2: agency received dozens of up votes in the form of
Speaker 2: the emojis so wired is the one that broke the story.
Speaker 2: They underscored how the sentiment was far from being fringe
Speaker 2: and that the unrest was out in the open. Some
Speaker 2: employees even wondered if pollnteer could help put an end
Speaker 2: to what they were reading about in the news. Again,
Speaker 2: they don't have any idea of who they're working for.
Speaker 2: This is just the tip, you know, This ICE thing
Speaker 2: is just the tip of the iceberg, isn't it. Can
Speaker 2: polunteer put any pressure on ICE at all? Wrote one employee.
Speaker 2: I read stories of folks rounded up who were seeking
Speaker 2: asylum with no order to leave the country, no criminal record,
Speaker 2: and consistently checking in with authorities, literally no reason to
Speaker 2: be rounded up like this. Surely we aren't helping them
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 8: These people is astonishing. To say that it sounds like
Speaker 8: he means, well, he's just so stupid. Is to not
Speaker 8: realize that he is the bad guys. Hans, we are
Speaker 8: the betties.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, we talk about ultimate compartmentalization there, that's
Speaker 2: that's amazing. Palenteer and ICE have deep ties. A four
Speaker 2: or four media scoop earlier this month described how Palateer
Speaker 2: was secretly providing ICE a tracking tool called Elite to
Speaker 2: scour medicaid data and other government sources to create a
Speaker 2: map of people it could potentially deport, generating a dossier
Speaker 2: for each person that included where they live. Palateer was
Speaker 2: also awarded a thirty million dollar contract to build ICE
Speaker 2: and Immigration to provide near real time visibility on people
Speaker 2: self deporting from the country, and also worked on updating
Speaker 2: the agency's database so it can be complete target analysis
Speaker 2: of known populations. So again we have this situation where
Speaker 2: I noticed how long it took them to get to
Speaker 2: the Somali fraud. Right, this is known going back to
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. We were doing reports about this stuff, and
Speaker 2: yet that wasn't the first place that the Trump administration went,
Speaker 2: but now it is their number one priority after there
Speaker 2: was a report about it. But they knew about it,
Speaker 2: just like Waltz knew about it, just like Immer, the
Speaker 2: number three Republican in the House, all knew about it.
Speaker 2: But they didn't do anything about that crime. And the
Speaker 2: thing that you would do about that crime doesn't have
Speaker 2: anything to do with going door to door picking up people.
Speaker 2: That is a white collar crime investigation type of thing.
Speaker 2: Eventually there would be a rest, but they're not anywhere
Speaker 2: close to that point yet. In response to the protests
Speaker 2: on slack, Volunteer's Civil Liberties team updated its internal wiki
Speaker 2: with a breakdown on it's work with ICE, arguing that
Speaker 2: the technology is making a difference and mitigating risks while
Speaker 2: enabling targeted outcomes. And so people are saying, well, wait
Speaker 2: a minute. You know, we heard that they're making this database,
Speaker 2: and we had this situation where and we've showing you
Speaker 2: the video of it, the guy goes up to somebody
Speaker 2: who's filming them and says, you're now in the database
Speaker 2: right as a terrorist? They said, are we doing that?
Speaker 2: Hunter with the bad guy is putting in this database
Speaker 2: that's tracking people who are protesting what we don't have
Speaker 2: a problem with. And so that is the reality of
Speaker 2: where this is. And again they have no idea what
Speaker 2: is going on with it. There was an interesting back
Speaker 2: and forth with a Trump the General Council former General
Speaker 2: Council from the first Trump administration for Homeland security. He
Speaker 2: went on with Jake Tapper his name is Chad Mozelle,
Speaker 2: and he starts making all of these accusations about in
Speaker 2: his characterizations, these mischaracterizations and lies, and I thought it
Speaker 2: was a great comeback from of all people, fake Jake Tapper,
Speaker 2: he's done a couple of these that are good, and
Speaker 2: he says, wait a minute. You do realize after you
Speaker 2: say that, you do realize that there's video out there
Speaker 2: that shows that everything that you were saying is a lie.
Speaker 2: And finally it's time that somebody said that, and it
Speaker 2: was Jake Tapper who said it. You do realize that
Speaker 2: there's multiple videos of this that show that everything that
Speaker 2: you said is a lie. And that's kind of where
Speaker 2: we are at this point in time with these guys.
Speaker 2: So the final thing is that first video that came
Speaker 2: out where the woman was, you know, what the f
Speaker 2: were you doing? And everything? She said? She went on
Speaker 2: with Anderson Cooper and she said, uh, yeah, I really
Speaker 2: regret that I use the F word so much, but
Speaker 2: she go, I was just so angry. I couldn't couldn't
Speaker 2: control it. And she said the thing that made her
Speaker 2: angry about it, which she said, she said, I remember
Speaker 2: the feeling inside my body. I remember, of course I
Speaker 2: wish I wasn't saying that word so often, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, that's how angry I was, and like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if anger is the right word to use.
Speaker 2: She said that I was mortified the way I was
Speaker 2: feeling and helpless. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Speaker 2: I knew he was gone because I watched it. And
Speaker 2: then they come over to try to perform some type
Speaker 2: of medical aid by ripping the clothes open with scissors
Speaker 2: and then maneuvering his body around like a rag doll,
Speaker 2: only to discover that it could be because they wanted
Speaker 2: to count the bullet wounds to see how many they got,
Speaker 2: like he's a deer. And so she points that out.
Speaker 2: And as a matter of fact, the physician, who was
Speaker 2: a pediatrician, he was not one of the protesters. He
Speaker 2: heard all this commotion everything. He was watching from his
Speaker 2: window in a nearby apartment building, and he when he
Speaker 2: saw that he saw the shooting, then he ran down
Speaker 2: and downstairs and out of the building. And he goes
Speaker 2: as ever says, I'm a physician. They wouldn't let him
Speaker 2: come because, well, where's your identity papers?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh, they're not GNA stoppo at all? Are they Anyway?
Speaker 2: They eventually patted him down and let him get there,
Speaker 2: and that's what was his comment. He said, they just
Speaker 2: flip him over, counting body wounds. We've had two people
Speaker 2: say that. Two witnesses have said that that's all they're interested. Anyway,
Speaker 2: After he gave what aid he could and they took
Speaker 2: the body away, he went back into his apartment building.
Speaker 2: But he said, we had to leave the area and
Speaker 2: go the others, you know, go somewhere else because there
Speaker 2: was so much tear gas that was getting into his
Speaker 2: apartment building there. What were we going to say? Last?
Speaker 8: They had to verify that he was a real physician.
Speaker 8: Think of all the damage that a fake physician would
Speaker 8: have done to that dying man. But they hadn't done
Speaker 8: their due diligence to make sure that.
Speaker 2: He was telling the truth. Yeah, maybe he's not on
Speaker 2: board with the pediatricians vaccine schedule, right. Yeah, we're going
Speaker 2: to take a break and when we come back, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about the pediatricians vaccine schedule. It's very
Speaker 2: interesting to see that there has been a WEKO lawsuit
Speaker 2: that's been put in by Children's Health Defense and another organization,
Speaker 2: saying that there is criminal collaboration between the CDC and
Speaker 2: the American Academy or Association the Pediatricians, the AAP, and
Speaker 2: I don't know what that second A stands for. We're
Speaker 2: gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: Me all right, welcome back. Before we get in, I'll
Speaker 2: get into the details of the Rico stuff next week,
Speaker 2: but I wanted to talk before we run out of
Speaker 2: time here about what happened with on Omar yesterday. As
Speaker 2: some people referred to it. They said, this is like
Speaker 2: a bad SNL skit, you know, Saturday Night Live, except
Speaker 2: I guess in this case it was Small Night Live,
Speaker 2: and this was an alleged attack. And I find myself
Speaker 2: in the strange position of agreeing with Donald Trump. For once.
Speaker 2: He came out and said he thought it was all fake.
Speaker 2: This is this is like Sean Hannity and Joe Scarborough
Speaker 2: agreeing on something, and so I think it does look
Speaker 2: very very fake. Lance was the first one to see this,
Speaker 2: and he said, say, this is one of the those
Speaker 2: ridiculous things I've ever seen you got a guy in
Speaker 2: the audience who is kind of a bit dodgy looking
Speaker 2: and everything, and the camera is focusing in on him.
Speaker 2: It looks like she glances in his direction a couple
Speaker 2: of times and then kind of gives a knot. He
Speaker 2: jumps up and he sprays her with something, and everybody
Speaker 2: around her is like freaking out, you know, thinking that
Speaker 2: it's some kind of a hasard. This material they brought
Speaker 2: in the hazmat people. They discovered that it was apple
Speaker 2: cider vinegar. One of the people that was there with
Speaker 2: her said it was horrible. I went outside and I
Speaker 2: had to throw up. I don't know, it's like, have
Speaker 2: you ever had that response to the apple cider vinegar?
Speaker 2: It's not that bad, but anyway, I had this. This
Speaker 2: is a picture that somebody says. We were laughing about it.
Speaker 2: We said, yeah, she should have jumped up and said fight, fight, fight. Well,
Speaker 2: one person basically put a banana in her hand as
Speaker 2: she is even had the people around her like secret
Speaker 2: Service agents hustling her off, and you see one person
Speaker 2: with a spray bottle spring her and the smally flag
Speaker 2: in the background. So I thought, well, it's just drop
Speaker 2: this in the gruk and animate it. Yeah, there we go,
Speaker 2: fight fight, fight, that's it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the thing is it stots out. So she's giving
Speaker 8: her speech and this guy's calmly wait for his cue.
Speaker 8: She glances up at him for a moment and then
Speaker 8: resolutely looks back down at her podium. She glances at
Speaker 8: him while he's still seated, perfectly still.
Speaker 2: I don't have the video here.
Speaker 8: I thought I had it, but he's seated perfectly still.
Speaker 8: And then she looks down resolutely at her notes and
Speaker 8: doesn't look at him again. As he's getting up and
Speaker 8: walking toward her, she's avoiding eye contact with him to
Speaker 8: show that he's not, you know, associated with her.
Speaker 2: And he's sprayed something on her and she's not concerned
Speaker 2: enough to even wipe it off, let alone, you know,
Speaker 2: go all the people around her, Oh should get medical help,
Speaker 2: you get me. No, I'm not gonna be bullied into
Speaker 2: stopping my speech. And she continues on her brave speech.
Speaker 11: Just like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah. So this guy worst acting ever. He's like jiving
Speaker 8: around like the fawns and going the comment that she
Speaker 8: made right before this was and we have to impeach Christinome.
Speaker 8: And it's like we are getting rid of Christy Nome
Speaker 8: and he says something else and sprays her, and then she,
Speaker 8: you know, immediately as he's still talking, marches straight up
Speaker 8: to him and smacks him in effacture triply before the
Speaker 8: security guards come and tackle him, and then walks over
Speaker 8: to the podium and tries to continue her speech. And
Speaker 8: then the people that weren't in on it are all saying, no, no,
Speaker 8: you gotta go get this checked out. You might have
Speaker 8: been sprayed with anything. You don't know what happened, and
Speaker 8: you know, any logical thing if this was it could
Speaker 8: have been acid for all they know. So she's like, no, no,
Speaker 8: that's what he wants. I gotta finish my speech.
Speaker 2: Well it was slightly acidic, you know, apple cider, beninger,
Speaker 2: but I think that was a real tip off. No,
Speaker 2: you can't get rid of Christy Home. I mean, there
Speaker 2: is nobody, literally nobody in this country that supports Christime.
Speaker 2: Even the people who support the ICE actions don't support
Speaker 2: Christy Nome. It's one of the most ridiculous things we said.
Speaker 2: It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever scene. You know,
Speaker 2: we'res Graucho Marx, we need him. Yes, it is theater,
Speaker 2: isn't it theater from both sides? And here we are
Speaker 2: stuck in the middle of these people get crazier and
Speaker 2: crazier every day. Well, that's it for our show today.
Speaker 2: We have a couple of very interesting interviews. I think
Speaker 2: you're going to really enjoy tomorrow. So it'll be live.
Speaker 2: It'll be the first time we've aired these interviews. We
Speaker 2: recorded them this week and so tune in tomorrow. You'll
Speaker 2: be able to comment with each other. And it is
Speaker 2: a new program that'll be aired tomorrow, although it will
Speaker 2: be pre recorded interviews. Thank you for joining us the
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