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he gets into the shower and to the top of
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Speaker 2: All right back to the radio show now, all the best, Jemmy, thanks, Jerry,
Welcome back everybody. We have entered our number three Newmarrow
trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from the
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live and if you are listening live of course, today
is Saturday, February twenty eight, twenty twenty six. Nice have
you with us, And I'm gonna go ahead and bring
this up because we also have joining us online Charles
Richardson from The Charles Richardson Show.
Speaker 3: Hello, Charles, greetings, and thanks for having me on last
day of February.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so uh. I know this doesn't affect you because
you are in Florida, but I like to think of
the last day of February as being the last day
of winter. And I'll tell you why, because my something,
my Dad taught me he likes to think. He liked
to think of winter as really only being two months long,
just January and February, because most of December is technically
still fall, so then you have January and February to
contend with, and by the time you get to March,
it's technically still winter. But at that point, you know,
whatever happens happens, you don't care because any day now
it's all gonna warm up and everything's gonna melt and
it's gonna be fine. So in my mind, tomorrow, March first,
is the first day of spring. Okay, but where you are,
it doesn't matter, right.
Speaker 3: It don't matter. It's spring except for a few fragments
of really really chilly air. I'm not gonna say cold,
because I am I am northern or by blood. I
was the one that went out here in t shirts
and shorts wets forty degrees, and I see the rest
of the people bundle up like it's gonna be a
blizzard soon. So it's if people look at me weird,
I look at them weird too. Like in the fifties,
people are still bundling up with with layers and layers
like are you crazy, right, Come on, it's it just
doesn't bother me. Maybe also because I like three hundred pounds,
so it's like me a little bit more so.
Speaker 2: You don't get cold as easily as uh no, maybe
other other folks.
Speaker 3: No, everybody else. Everybody else is turning on the heat Monday,
and it's like thirty five degrees over here. I got
the window open and I'm sleeping in my normal thing.
So it's like I was, I was in heaven.
Speaker 2: How how cold is it in the winter there?
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 2: Is it getting down to thirty five? Is that normal?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: In about so the cumlative days that it gets into
the thirties, I have two hands to count the days. Really, yeah,
it doesn't. It doesn't happen that often. And when it does,
they have a thing called falling iguana warnings that are
down here. Really kid you not. I'd use another word,
but just that, that's how ridiculous it sounds. Is Literally,
if it gets below forty degrees, the i guanas will
literally freeze, frozen and fall from trees. They're not dead, why,
they're just frozen and they fall. And there's that's literally
a thing down here.
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of this before.
Speaker 3: So when you go ahead and hear, well, have you
never heard of it, then I'm not gonna hear it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But every time you hear a frozen to guana warning
down here in Florida, it's literally things like don't don't,
don't kill the iguanas or anything. They're still alive. They're
just they're hibernating warms up again.
Speaker 2: I'll be damned. Oh that's wild. Yeah, I had no idea.
I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Speaking of iguanas. By the way, I don't know how
you feel about him. Jenny and I are both very
big fans of mister Iguana.
Speaker 3: Yeah I heard. I heard. Listen to me, that was
a wasted row rumble spot. Oh he didn't. He didn't
do a whole lot. And he looked like he looked
like doing the clown to me.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's very Listen, he's very athletic. I'm not gonna
say anything, but it's like, listen, give him bring him
up to to to nxt LIMB. See what he can
do on that. You know, I know he's in triple
A and everything. So okay, it's fine. He's gonna get
his fair share. Of exposure. But to me, mister Iana,
it sounds like a Vince mcman gimmick name. It really does.
I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna say he's not
talented or anything like that. Yeah, I'm just saying that
the first exposure I have mister Guana. No, it's just
it doesn't rub me the right way. It really doesn't.
We love, we love this, apparently I have. I have
very quick judgment to the name. Well, not not the man.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, I got a bunch of
crap for it. On So on Friday nights, I'm a
co host on Retrospectrum Radio with poly C and they
they they they recently gave gave me a bunch of
crap about my love for mister Iguana. But I think
he's great. I say, put the belt on him, make
him the champion.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, definitely put a belt on
him so you can go ahead and hold this tights
up a little bit better. Belt. Well.
Speaker 2: Part of why we're talking today, of course, aside from
the fact that we always love to have you on,
of course, and you are the host of the Charles
Richardson Show. But today, speaking of shows, is elimination Chamber. Now,
I should tell you that Jenny and I have not
yet watched SmackDown. And the reason we haven't watched SmackDown
yet is because on Friday nights, I, of course, am
on retrospectrum radio, so we usually don't get to smack
Down until Saturday, and then we won't even get to
Elimination Chamber until either later this evening or possibly even tomorrow,
so we may be a little bit behind. Now. I'm
not putting any limitations on our conversation, of course, but
I'm just offering this as a spoiler alert. Jenny doesn't
like spoilers, so if we're if we talk about SmackDown
at all, which I assume we will, because that will
affect the elimination Chamber. You know, Jenny might want to
tune out because I don't mind spoilers. Uh. But Jenny,
of course, Uh, I know she doesn't want any, so
this will give her a chance to, uh to shut
this off if she's listening. But but I, but I
I think something you got good?
Speaker 3: You got you got three seconds, two seconds, one second,
And I have just one word for you. It's three letters,
and it's USO and the reason why I say USO
is because USO is out of the elimination chamber. Okay,
thanks to the very first part of SmackDown. He got
beaten down in an ambulance and the rumors were it
was Drew McIntyre. Okay, So that opened up a spot
for Jacob Fattou and a part of the Vision which
probably guests doing one that's not injured. It's Logan Paul.
Actually he should be austin theory is not injured, but
do we really count him right anyway, But so Logan
and Paul and Fatu went ahead and got into a match,
and the final elimination Chamber of spot goes to Matt
I'm gonna give you a guess.
Speaker 2: But Jacob Fatu, no, oh, Logan.
Speaker 3: Paul because du Bac and Tyre has to.
Speaker 2: Wait what say that again?
Speaker 3: It is the final entrant in the elimination chamber. So
Jay us So is out, Logan Paul is in.
Speaker 2: Just fyi, oh okay, gotcha? Gotcha. By the way, what
do you think of Logan Paul? Because I know he's
he's kind of divisive. I think I think he's incredible
as a I mean, I'm not I'm not so sure
about some of the other things he's gotten involved in
in terms of business practices and so forth. But lot
of people call him a scammer, this and that. But
I think as a professional wrestler, I think he's incredible.
Speaker 3: I think Logan Paul is actually mister Iguana.
Speaker 2: He's too tall, too tall.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying he's very athletic. I mean, definitely, he
has all the characteristics of being a WWE guy. He
really does. And I'm not gonna call him a superstar
or a wrestler because I guess they're neither, you know, so,
But Logan Paul's got everything. He's dazzled us in the ring.
He really does. Now he's becoming a full time thing
because I guess his YouTube channel making money anymore. I
don't know. But you know, he's obviously been an influencer,
which that's a thing nowadays. That's a that's a career
choice along with only fans. That's a career choice now.
And now he's turned in he's actually making himself full time,
which I am very happy to see. That way, you
can really see what he's like in the ring three
hundred and sixty five days a year and We'll see
how he handles himself with his character, and I think
put him in in the vision is a good way
to kind of mask any oopsies that he may do
because he's with a group, and who better to mentor
than Paul Haymon. Paul Haymon is done, CM Punk done,
brock Lesner, he's done, Roman Reigns. All those careers basically
took off with Paul Haymon involved. And you got to
give the Walrus his due. We really do so. I
think Logan Paul, I think he's going to be excellent.
As a matter of fact, I don't doubt that he
wins tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh you think really? You think he's going to win
the elimination chaper.
Speaker 3: I don't have a solid bet on that one, but
he's I mean, he could be built up to it
because I think a lot of I think a lot
of the storytelling has tooken some turns because of injuries.
I think it should have been Bronson Reid in that
last spot, but get injured.
Speaker 2: Uh Triceptare, Yeah, I believe it is tricept or Bicptar. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know it had something to do with the tries.
So I think he was supposed to be one in there,
but I think they had they had to make a pivot,
and that's why jay Us he won, wasn't supposed to win.
That's why he's beating up now and that that's the
that's the swagger, that that's the swing they're doing. So
I don't I wouldn't be surprised if Logan Paul is
set to go ahead and uh and win, or at
least be in the final two.
Speaker 2: I think it's very unlikely that he wins because they're
not gonna want to send him to WrestleMania the main event, right,
I mean not yet. Maybe next year eventually, but not yet.
Speaker 3: You no, no, no, I mean you take take a
look at if you take a look at the men's chamber,
that the chamber match, you got Cody Rhoades, Javon Evans,
l a Night, Logan Paul, Randy Won, and Trick Williams,
a lot of new lou faces. I like Trick, Oh yeah, Trick.
I like Javon. Javon could do some amazing things in
that in that chamber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenny loves him too. Yeah, Evans incredible.
Speaker 3: I really hope and I know this is probably not
gonna be true, but I really hope it is not Cody,
and it's not Randy.
Speaker 2: Okay, somebody else.
Speaker 3: Take this rein somebody that, somebody that's a face if
you take a look, really, all of these people are
faces except Logan ball.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Trick Williams is kind of I don't know what to
think because he he acts like a heel. Everything about
him is a heel, but the fans love him.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, it's like, if you want to go, I
think Trick is all about Trick. He doesn't care about
anybody else. He's so I don't call him a face
or a heel. I think he's just he's just for himself. Yeah,
So does that make him a heel? I don't think so,
I think, but it definitely doesn't make him. You know,
him being a crowd favorite, I think automatically puts him
into that face category.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the crowd explodes when his music hits. I mean,
that's the bigg he gets the biggest. He gets a
bigger face pop than most of the babyfaces, even though
he acts like a heel. He kind of reminds me
of the rock, you know, the rock, even when the
rock was a baby face early on, you know, he
was he was all about himself. You know, he wasn't
the most empathetic babyface, and I think Trick Williams is
probably a very similar to that. I certainly don't think
it's going to be Randy Orton. I think it's most
likely to be Cody Rhoads, but they may also If
it's not Cody, then that means they're going to use
tonight's match to because they've been teasing it for so long,
there's finally going to be some sort of a breakdown
between Cody Roads and Randy Orton.
Speaker 3: Do you think so?
Speaker 2: I do. I think that they're They've been teasing that
and teasing it, and I think I think this is
going to be the moment.
Speaker 3: It's finally about time, right, It's about time to see
heel Roads roseby and a heel or.
Speaker 2: Well or the Randy Orton heel turn. But the problem
with turning Orton heel is he is so and he
has been since he came back for the past couple
of years. He is so over as a babyface. The
way the fans sing his song, I've never seen him
as over as a babyface, even though he's an excellent.
Heel so you think so okay, So you think tonight
they pulled the trigger on the Cody Roads heel turn.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I was asking you if you
think that's the Oh, okay, I I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if they it's so there's so much risk in
doing it. I want to see it. Jenny wants to
see it too. She was saying she's ready for it.
I think it would be great. I have long speculated
because we don't know. They've never told us who actually
is responsible for the attack on Jacob fat too, And
I've said all along, what if it's Cody. Hmmm, what
if it somehow is revealed that it was Cody.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I think that's really too far off. But
you know what, it would be the first time that
w W surprised me.
Speaker 2: They dropped a hint though they opened the door. Right
after it happened, there was a conversation between Cody Rhoads
and Nick All This where Cody Rhoads said to Nick
All this, by the way, I'm really sorry about what
happened to Jacob. I like Jacob, it's terrible, and then
he moved on to something else in their conversation. But
I remember him saying that and thinking why did they
have him go out of his way to say that
and to say how much he likes Jacob Plot too? Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, because because fat two cost Roads to
Belt literally in that that match. So they they've had
some beef. But hey, you know what that that's that
makes a lot of sense too. If they will go
ahead and pull the trigger, all right, I wouldn't be
I wouldn't be too shocked on that. Yeah, I don't
think why would it make Roads a bad guy? That
was just one guy that he has a thing against it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it turned out he's the one responsible
for the attack, I mean, that's a heel thing to do.
That's that you know, a baby face wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is but it is risky there, there's
there's always a risk to it. But but the shock
of it would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're gonna if you're gonna make a heel turn, listen,
don't be like, don't do to Cody like you did
John Cena And just like eh merchandise is up, You're
just gonna keep your face and face. No, turn him,
turn him, if you're gonna do it, turn them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean Cody even said he came out and said,
the next contract you gets to WW is gonna be
his last.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know what, let's just do it, Just
do it. Yeah, But what's it.
Speaker 3: Really gonna hurt? You know? Orton's on the end of
his career, Cody's on the end of his career. Man
love to see La Night win. I would love to
see l A Night. I think he's overdue a push
for so long. I love to see him against Drew.
Speaker 2: I would love to see it too, And I think
most of the fans would love to see it. I
just don't think they're going to. Did you watch well?
So let me ask you this because it's has to
do with my thought on La Night. Do you think
they lost confidence in him? Because I assumed Did you
watch WWE Unreal?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh you haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've seen. I've seen two episodes of the first season.
I am so behind on that. Oh.
Speaker 2: Jenny and I ended up binge watching it because it's
so good and I know a lot of it. There's
a lot of negativity negativity online toward that show, and
I don't quite understand it. I think it's I think
it's fantastic. I know, I know a lot of the
podcasters don't like it. James Romero hates it. I think
it's really good. But but there's a moment you might
be aware of this. There's there is a moment where,
because when they did money in the bank, l A.
Knight apparently made a mistake and it screwed up the
ending of the match. And there's a scene in Unreal
where Triple H is kind of telling l. A. Knight, Look,
you really mess this up. Here's what was supposed to happen.
I don't know what you were thinking, that kind of thing.
And so it has a lot of people speculating that
they may have confidence in L. A. Night and that's
why he remains He's always like on the edge of
being in main events, but he never quite quite gets
that push all the way to the top. And uh
and and the speculation that that might be why Eric
Pilch and Austin and I we talked about it on
Touff Bumps recently. You know that that may be the reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of politics to go on behind
the scenes too, whether you get a push or not.
And you know, my my question has always been listening.
He's over with the crowd. You know, we enjoy I
enjoy his matches. I think he has a love of athleticism.
He's not a typical three moves of doom type of person.
You know, he's got he he he's got a good finisher.
Why are we not pushing him?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What? What's the what's the hold up? What's going on?
And stuff like that behind the scenes when you're not
cooperating with what was supposed to be planned, and they're
kind of like saying, you know what the deal is, Yeah,
that can hold you back, That really can't so uh
And and to backtrack, listen, Unreal is for the person
that kind of wants to see what's going on. Paul
Haymon's come out and says he absolutely hates it.
Speaker 2: He says it right on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he hates it because it's literally, you're pulling
the curtain way too far back and that's supposed to
be kept sacred, right and steam punk kind of feels
the same way a little bit, he said. He he
refused to do a couple of things that they asked
him to do or he asked them to cut it
out or something like that. So yeah, it is really
one of those things where it it polarizes the industry
a little bit because it's like, you know, a lot
of people are against it and listen to what's kept
behind that curtain, should be kept behind that curtain?
Speaker 2: M out Yeah, I love all that stuff even you know,
even if but see, I would enjoy that show even
if it didn't pull back the curtain as much. But
it just kind of showed you behind the scenes how
things work, you know, and gorilla position and everything. You know,
even if they even if they didn't give anything away really,
even if it was a little bit more k fame,
but still it showed you kind of kind of just
how things work behind the scenes. I would still even
find that really fascinating, just because I love that kind
of stuff anyway. I always have.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, who do you think of when you
see Drew McIntyre on camera? You think of him as,
you think of him as not a nice guy, you
and now you take a look behind the scenes and
it's like, oh, well, you know he's he's he's a
loving husband, father or whatever they whatever he is, you know,
and you know he's actually gotta got a human side
to him, right, you know, say, you know the same
thing with Solo Socoa Solo was you know, just he's
he's a he's a bad guy, but you know, behind
the scenes, you know, he's got a family, just like
everybody else does, you know, And and and that's that's
the way, you know, you need to take a look
at I mean, a lot of people, they they want
just the image on TV, so they can generally hate
somebody or like somebody based on what they see on
the camera. But I think you know, there's a lot
more people that know that, listen, this is a character.
Yeah it's not really them, right, But you know, but
what does that do to the character that now it's
kind of like a little bit clouded? Do I cheer
for him or do I do I hate him? Because
you know who they are behind the scenes and how
they are as a real person, but they're playing a
bad guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, it doesn't bother me, It
never has. I compartmentalize it pretty easily because I just
look at it the same way I look at anything else.
You know, they're they're they're actors, so so I you know,
I'm not the slightest bit bothered by seeing, you know,
somebody like Drew McIntyre who's supposed to be a bad guy.
You know, when I when I see him outside in
a different context and it turns out he's actually a
nice guy, it's like, well, yeah, I actually kind of
assumed that already. I assume he's not the character that
he plays on television, just like with that anything else.
So it's it's never bothered me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You still have you still have these
simple minded people who are just getting into wrestling thinking,
oh my god, well, why are they allowed to do
that called the cop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, relax, it's a show. Yes, yes, oh my word.
Speaker 3: They said wrestling was fake. This looks so real. It's
fake because the outcomes are predetermined.
Speaker 2: It is weird to me, though, that in the year
twenty twenty six, because as a wrestling fan, I've been
dealing with this my whole life. And I'm sure you
have two as every wrestling fan has. Even today, I'll
have a conversation with someone who doesn't like wrestling and
they will say to me, well, you know, it's all fake, right,
It's like, no kidding, Really.
Speaker 3: It's scripted.
Speaker 2: It's scripted entertainment. Wow, No, I thought it was all real.
I also thought Star Trek was real. I thought it
was a documentary about going into outer space. I thought
of Thrones were real. I thought those dragons were real dragons. Like,
it's so insulting. It's like because when somebody says that
to me, to me, it's like, what they're really saying
is either they think I'm an idiot or or they
they just or they just look down on something that
I happen to, Like it's just because they don't like it.
Speaker 3: What's the sacond one? It's yeah, they're not calling you
an idiot. I think it's them they're being idiots. It's
it's like, you really think that we don't know. You
really think we don't know? Oh, yes, we know they're
going through tables and yes, how do you prevent that
from being fake? What is it?
Speaker 2: AI?
Speaker 3: It's table to AI. This is just a character that's
that's dropping on tails. It's really a big mattress pad
that they fall. We know that they listen. It's it's
fake to a point. Listen, you get bumps and bruises.
That's the reason why there's injuries.
Speaker 2: Now, the injuries are real.
Speaker 3: You are taking risk, but it is calculated risks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna throw somebody off of still cage and
they're gonna land on concrete. No, there's gonna be something
to break the fall. So there's not a serious injury, right,
you know, it's it's that point there is still bumps
and bruises, you know, it's people still deal with pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I may have told this story. I know I've told.
I can't remember who I've told this story to and
who I haven't, So I don't know if listeners have
heard this yet or have heard this before, or if
you have. Charles. But when I was a kid, so
I had a friend who really looked down on wrestling,
and we're having a conversation about it and uh, and
he pulled that with me. He's like, well, you know
it's fake, right, And I'm like, yeah, I know obviously,
even when I was a kid, I mean I knew,
I understood it was scripted entertainment. And I remember he
said to me, he goes, well, if there's a if,
it's all if it's all predetermined. Where's the integrity in it?
That's literally what he said to me, where's the integrity?
And I knew about him, And there's by the way,
there's a horrible irony to what I'm about to say,
But this is how the conversation went. I said to
him because I knew he was a fan of the
Cosby Show. So I said to him, I said, well,
you like the Cosby Show, right, and he goes yeah,
And I said, well, did you know that that's all fake?
Did you know that Cliff Huxtable, that his name is
an actually Cliff Huxtable, and that it's really Bill Cosby
and he's an actor and that's not a real family.
They're all actors and they're just pretending. Where's the integrity
in the Cosby Now? Of course, again, what we know
about Bill Cosby today, that's the part that makes it
horribly ironic, uncomfortably so, actually, But we didn't know that.
But I just remember saying that to him. It's like, yeah, well,
where's the integrity in the Cosby Show? That's all fake?
You know, it's all scripted, you know, But but again,
you know, and that was when I was a kid
and you know, here we are in twenty twenty six
and people still come at us with that, and it's like, yeah,
we know, it's fun.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just now, it's it's the circle of life.
It's the circle of disbelief. That's what it is. You
got these new new kids that are like it's fake,
you know, yeah, And and you know what, in twenty years,
it's gonna be the same thing. It's gonna be the
same thing. But hopefully by then, maybe we you know,
evolve from these apes of people that you know, would
would like we would go to humans to understand that
this is all entertainment. It's all it is. But it's fun.
It's fun, just like you know, you ladies out there
like your soap operas. You realize that Salem is not
really a place. It's based on a place, but it's
not really a place.
Speaker 2: Salem.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even know if it's Salem. Master. I
think my wife says, like Illinois, they they they're based
in Salem, Illinois. What day of our lives?
Speaker 2: Oh, days of our lives?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you know it's like, you know, you got
the I just love this, I love it. I don't
watch it, trust me. But I've seen things that she
watches on that soap opera. Literally, if there's like a
fight and there they're holding some hostage at gunpoint, that
gun point last for five episodes.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, you got to fill five.
Speaker 3: Where you gonna pull the trigger or lose control? What's
going on here?
Speaker 2: Well well, yes, yeah, soap operas are paced a little
differently than a weekly show because it's on five days
a week. And I understand that because you know, I
like I I grew up watching General Hospital.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I blame that on my mother. She got me hooked
on it one summer. And but but the thing is, yeah,
well the thing is though General Hospital had and still
does from what I understand to this day. You know,
it had it had all the tropes of a soap opera,
but it also had like this really strong action adventure
element to it, you know, with with Russian spies and
mob stories and you know, so uh so that's why,
even as a little boy, I was able to get
hooked into into that. But it also it's worth noting
that some of those same elements about General Hospital are
probably some of the same elements that got me hooked
on wrestling. Because wrestling, so much of that is, you know,
inspired by In terms of the storytelling soap operas.
Speaker 3: It is a soap opera is a male action soap
opera that involves guys dressed in tights fighting each other
in a ten by ten ring. Yes, and women too,
speaking of those, Speaking of those athletes and tights, let's
go over the matches tonight, Yes, yes, please, obviously I
want to go ahead and get your picks as well
as mine. Okay, it's gonna be a little odd to
pick these because we're not picking one on ones. It
will least for two of them. It's going to be
which one of the five or six do you think
is going to walk out of here? Okay, we already
kind of you know, mentioned a little bit about the
men's Cody, Javon Night, Logan, Randy, and Trick.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's gonna be Cody.
Speaker 3: I I do too, But you know, if I had
to go ahead and man, yeah, I after you told
me what happened on Unreal, I don't think they have
Ellie Knight doing it, and I think Trick and Javan
they're too young right now. Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna come
down to the two older people. When I really hope
they fool us. I really hope they fool us and
they go ahead and do Night or they do Javan.
Speaker 2: I really hope so yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if I'm gonna put if I'm gonna have
to put money on, it's Cody. Yeah, it's sad to say, and.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not gonna be Javan. They're not gonna be
He's not gonna be in the main event of WrestleMania already.
But he's got a long career ahead of him. He's
got plenty of time, and so does Trick.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Logan. I'm seriously if the
Vision gets involved, even though it's a cage match, you
never know that that still hasn't stopped people from getting involved. Yeah,
Logan would be my outside choice.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it would be interesting for.
Speaker 3: The women's here's what we got the lineup his Oscar,
Alexa Bliss, Keana James, where Calvidriguez, Rhea and Tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Ria Ripley. You think so, Yeah,
they want to get her into a women's main event, Yeah,
I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And another spoil she dropped the tag team titles to
uh Nia Jackson Lash legend really stupid? Oh wow he
lost last night?
Speaker 2: Okay, what happened after the uh and again spoiler alert,
But so what happened after the match, because what I
assume where they're going long term is, you know, Ria
Ripley and E O. Sky obviously are very very buddy buddy,
but eventually there is going to be a split. I'm
curious what happens after the match. Did anything happen after
the MA between them?
Speaker 3: I was reading it. I didn't watch it, but I
was reading it at the time, the timetable of the blog. Uh,
nothing exciting happened afterwards. They just celebrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing happened between Io and Rhea, right, gotcha?
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, I kind of see Ria, But you
know what, Tiffany came back from injury. I think she
wants to take back her her rightful spot.
Speaker 2: There could be I could see that too. I could
see them going with Tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and put my put my dollars on Tiffany.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be Alexa Bliss. It's obviously it's
certainly not going to be a Keana James, uh who else?
It's not gonna be It's not gonna be Oscar.
Speaker 3: Saying it should be nice though Alexa Bliss has been
waiting a long time too since she came back.
Speaker 2: True, it's not gonna be her, though, I'd be very surprised.
I think it's going to be either uh Tiffany Stratton
or uh Riha Ripley one one one of one of
those two.
Speaker 3: I'll take Tiffany's my horse.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 3: One of the two singles matches that is booked, This
one here is for the Women's Intercontinental Championship. Is Becky
and AJ first singles match for AJ in over ten years. Yeah,
against the greatest of all time. It's not just me
saying it, it's What's Illustrated saying it's.
Speaker 2: Meg TV saying the Bleacher Report says it.
Speaker 3: I'm so done with everybody else to say it. Oh
my god, you're annoying as hell.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, Charles, hold on, we got to
talk about this. I love Becky Lynch's promos. Yeah, oh
my god. I have never been such a fan of
Becky Lynch as I am right now. I love her
promos I love when she does. That whole thing is
not just me saying it's Sports Illustrated says it. I
I Becky Lynch as a heel, and by the way,
I only as a heel. As a baby face. I
think she's dull as dirt, but as a heel I
love I could. I wouldn't care if they just let
her go out and talk for twenty minutes. I love
everything she's doing as a heel right now. But it
sounds like you're you're over it. Did you want to
know the reason why I hate her promos? Why?
Speaker 3: It's just I cannot stand the stuttering. I cannot say
it is a minor thing.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not. She doesn't stutter. She stammers.
Speaker 3: Well you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just people sometimes people say stutter when
they mean stammer. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a stammer. We'll do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But I can't stand it. I really, It's just it
makes your sound really dumb, really like she doesn't know
what she's talking about. But it's just like, you know,
I kind of listen. AJ since she's came back has
blown her away in every shape and form. She's kept
it funny, comical, and she puts it. Oh man, she
lays down facts.
Speaker 4: Oh it's that's just a fantastic, amazing on the mic. Oh,
I agree, I agree. So, but coming back one on
one match after ten years, no, I don't.
Speaker 3: See it, No, no much. I'd love AJ to go
ahead and just take that title and make a run.
I gotta put Becky on that, especially especially if Seth
Rollins in that crate.
Speaker 2: You think it's Seth Rollins in the crate.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's uh Jericho because Jericho is still
in the contract.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a rumor that it's Dan Housen, which would
make sense, and I hope it is.
Speaker 3: That's another room. I actually, I actually, while I was
waiting to get on the air, I went ahead in
and a hide the question who is in the air.
It came down it's either Chris Jericho, Dan Housen, Seth
Rollins or Bianca Belle Air.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna beyond.
Speaker 3: There is the rumors of a person named Evil from
New Japan.
Speaker 2: Well that would be a letdown. Nobody. Nobody's gonna know
who that is.
Speaker 3: Nobody. Yeah, I think that's way out there. Yeah, so
I think it's gonna be wouldn't be these four? I
weiy these three now, Dan Housen, seth Rollins, Bianca Beler.
I think they originally wanted Jericho in there, Yeah, but
then they found out it's contracts frozen. Which how do
you not know that when you make these plans and
sign them under contract?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well unless somebody put that out there deliberately to
throw us, because Jericho is a master of that. But
but we don't even know. It might not be a
person in the crate. It might be something an object
in the crate that refers to the person who will
then come out on stage. But if, but if, if
someone literally emerges from the crate, it's probably Dan Housen. Yeah,
and I hope so because that would be awesome because
I've only seen a little bit of Dan Housen's work
in aw but the little bit that I've seen I loved.
He's fantastic. I hope it's Dan Housen, all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of looking forward to that. I haven't
seen much of him, so yeah, but yeah, if he's
half as incredible as I heard, yeah, then yeah, it
would be nice to see.
Speaker 2: He's a lot of fun. That would be fun anyway.
Speaker 3: I got Becky on this match.
Speaker 2: Yeah me too, Me too say.
Speaker 3: And finally this match, which I kind of think is
just a fluffer match really for seeing Punk Punk and Balor.
I don't see Balo winning and him being the headline
for WrestleMania, although I've gone back and forth and thinking
see him. Punk has always wanted to headline WrestleMania. He
did it last year. He's not as selfish as he
once was before. Right, He's actually come back and helped
out a lot of people. He's willing to go ahead
and take bumps for people. He might do this because
Finn Bauer earned it. He may drop the title for him.
So Finn and Roman Reigns going at it.
Speaker 2: That's a problem, no, okay?
Speaker 3: So well, I mean they could always and this is
what I said on my on the other show, I'm on,
they can always pivot like they pivoted if with WrestleMania
forty when it was supposed to be Rains against the
Rock and everybody chanted Cody, you know, and Cody should
make the decision. Blah blah blah. They can always pivot
like they did. Then they can put the title on
Finn and they got a month and a half before WrestleMania.
They can get him rematch somewhere in there where Finn
drops it again.
Speaker 2: That's a rumor that's out there. I hate that idea,
and i'll tell you why I don't. First of all,
I don't want anything interrupting the build between Roman Reigns
and Sampot because that first face to face promo that
they did was fire. I loved that promo. The other
they can fight, I know. But the other problem but no,
actually yet, well not at WrestleMania, because then it's going
to be Roman Reigns versus Finn Balor if Baler's the champion.
The other problem I have is I really don't like
the idea of Balor wins the belt and then see
him punk wins it back sometime between now and WrestleMania.
Then you're hot shotting the title. I really don't like that.
That's something I hated during the Attitude era, and I
don't want to see it now. So I don't like
that idea. I think what happens is Balor loses again,
but he's clearly on his way I think to a
to a full on baby face turn, and I think
he will lose again. I think he will be humble
about it and that will be his face turn and
he'll he'll go back to being a babyface. That's what
I think is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've definitely seen the writing on the wall there
where Finn is. Just listen, I don't need you guys.
You know I want to do this alone. Yeah, let
me do it while on what you know that that's
the sign of a heel a face turn right there. Yeah,
but yeah, I just let's see. Here's the thing. He's
doing everything that Punk is telling him to do. You
would think doing what he says that would make him champion. Dude,
I don't know, man, It's it's tough. It's the heart
wants to see Finn with the championship, but the timing
right now is just not there yet. So I'm gonna
go ahead and say Punk is gonna win. Yeah, Punk
will win at Mania, and then Finn will get another
chance at after Mania. Hm.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I am. I am intrigued to see where
they're going with Finn Balor. But but I don't think
he wins the I don't think he wins the title tonight.
Uh what what did you think of the promo? But
between uh punk and Roman reigns.
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with you. It was spot on fire.
It was it was a volcano erupting on both ends.
I loved it. I mean just to the point of,
you know, is like I picked you because I hate you, yep,
And this is gonna be the best ne of my
life because I'm just gonna go ahead and beat you,
to give you the beating you deserve. And am I
take back my title? Blah blah blah. You know, I'm
just waiting and waiting for the tribal chief to have
a tribe again.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: He hasn't had one yet. Yeah, And I think that's
kind of I think somewhere along the line, I think
it does come to where we finally get all the
Samoans in line. I think we get fought too, we
get the usos. I don't see Solo coming back on there.
I think he's got his MFTs, which I will. I
will go ahead and tell you I like Solo as
that gangster, a gangster ither two.
Speaker 2: Jenny's commented on that too, that he's really grown in
the role. I have a problem. I have a problem
though with the MFT gimmick. I hate the face paint.
It makes them, It makes them look like juggalos. This
isn't this isn't supposed to be ICP. It's supposed to
be MFT. It looks ridiculous on them, especially on Tomatonga.
And I'll tell you why, because the great thing about
Tomatonga is he's got a very expressive face and why
would you want to hide it under all that makeup
so much of what like, so much of what his
character is is you know, he's got that weird sound
that he makes, but also just his facial expressions that
that's what makes him compelling as Tomatonga. And then you
slap all that makeup on him and he covers his
face and it looks I know, And I did read
online that I guess that he and Tongala they wore
the war paint when they were the Gorillas of Destiny
in Japan. I just I just think it looks awful.
I think they look ridiculous. I think it's they look
like Juggalos. And again, no disrespect to the Juggalos. I
played in a band one where we actually had some
jugglers who were into us. So whatever, I'm.
Speaker 3: Laughing not has mean disagree. I actually can agree with
you on that, but it's it's it's given them the identity.
It really is that, you know, granted call them, you know,
they look like jugglers, whatever the case may be, Juggles
is still pretty. They're pretty bad Like that isn't good. Okay,
I was gonna use you know, I was gonna use
bad a, but you know we're in FM. You can
say badass. That's not a problem. Bad ass. They're badasses.
So that the paint, I don't think, like, you know,
lowers their standard. I think it's just it is a
look that they're going for.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. I think it looks so silly, like
cringe when I say, it's like, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: They need they need I like this whole thing that
they're doing against with the Wyat sixes. There needs to
be more. There needs to be more cond texting that
and to some point where hopefully there's still time that
there is like a five on five family versus family match.
I'm kind of hoping for that.
Speaker 2: They haven't done that already.
Speaker 3: No, they they've done Tag Team Champ because the not
the uh the sixers are still tag Team Champions. I
guess so many times they've defended that, how many like one?
It's like, come on man, it's like nobody's really doing
anything about these tag team titles. That's the that's the
one downfall I have with with WW. Right now, Jake
Carghill has defended the title twice once twice something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is she?
Speaker 3: Then she's over here talking about how she is the
b now WW.
Speaker 2: I love her promos though, I love her. I love
her as a heel. She's fantastic as a heel.
Speaker 3: I love her, But the point is fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to fight. That's okay. Though she's a heel.
Heels are supposed to be a little bit cowardly, you know,
to all time little bit.
Speaker 3: She is complete. Yeah, she's complete.
Speaker 2: Talk Yeah, loving her character though she she's believable too,
Like when she delivers that line that we can't say
on the air, she like you believe it, right, Like
she's so good. She is so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, promo wise, she's great. I keep hearing that she's
really green. I mean I see her work. She's not
that green.
Speaker 2: No, I think she gets a lot of unfair criticism.
I've said I've said this from the beginning. I think
she's better in the ring than she gets credit for.
And I will also say she's improved a lot I had. Yeah,
and she doesn't get the credit for it, though people
online just crap all over. I think she's I think
she's much better than she gets credit for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, she she's she's cleaned up love. Listen.
I've seen her in some of these matches before. Oh yeah,
I've seen botches all over the place. Sure, I see
just like things like, oh man, is she gonna get
up after that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's and again, like we had mentioned before,
fakeer real, this is real, It is calculated, real. You
are trained to take these bumps in a certain way.
And with Jade doing the stuff she was doing when
she first got called up, which is why you saw
her sporadically, you know why, because her behind was down
there in the performance center trying to work on her craft. Right,
you know I could see why AW got rid of her.
I mean, with the little the little integrity they have
over there, a w Yeah, they needed they need to
go ahead and just say all right, we can't have
you injuring anybody else. Go get out of here, be gone.
So but no, they they w W sees that the
the talent there, and you know, they've worked with her,
giving her chance after chance, and they saw something. That's
why she was made Queen of the Ring, right, that's
why she's currently a champion. Right.
Speaker 2: Oh, one other thing we had to wrap up soon.
But just as we're talking about Jade Cargill and her
being better than what she gets credit for, what do
you think about Chelsea Green Because there's also been some
controversy And again, I know you haven't watched the new
season of Unreal, but one of the things that's come up,
I'm sure you've seen the chatter about this online. You know,
Michael Hayes kind of makes some comments in there indicating
that Chelsea Green is you know, upper mid card, but
that's kind of her ceiling. But she's you know, she's
great at what she does. But but there's a lot
of people who are saying, no, she should be in
main events, like she's that good, she's that entertaining, and
I tend to agree with that. I'm curious what you
think because it seems to me everything she's ever been
given to do, Chelsea Green, she knocks it out of
the park. I mean, she's so good. And she's another
example too of a heel. She's supposed to be a heel,
but obviously the fans love her because she's so talented,
and she's so good at everything she does, and she's
so likable and funny. So I think she's I think
she should be. I think she deserves a bigger push
than she gets.
Speaker 3: What do you think There's a lot of people we
could give pushes too that we want, right, we all
thinking I should get a bigger push. You know, Chelsea Green,
she You're right. She goes ahead and with what she
has been given as the quote unquote you know president
in her in her, the secret hervist, the hervest. Yes, yeah,
I'm like, I'm thinking, that's such a stupid name. But
that it's like, you know what she's running with it.
Let's go ahead. I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun and she's a heel, so it can
be stupid.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. I think she's been put into
a position of she's on an island where she's goofy,
and it's like, you know, you can't take a main
event or that's goofy. That's the problem with that is
you know you and to to kind of retrospect on
everything you take. You take like the Olsen Twins, there
were child actresses. Yeah, you can't seriously as an adult
actresses anymore, even though they're not coming back, but still
you can't take them seriously. Yeah, they're always gonna be
labeled child actresses. So are you gonna cast them in
a leading role? No? Chelsea Green is put into this
category unfortunately that she is a goofy, goofy character.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think with a little bit of creativity, though,
I think they could.
Speaker 3: She needs yes, and she needs to basically have her
character redone. She can't go ahead with the harvest. She
would have to be another another version of Chelsea Green
to go ahead and make any type of serious move.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's so much another version as just
take her, just evolve her in a way, maybe make
her a little bit more serious, maybe maybe do a
babyface turn.
Speaker 3: But but if you if you were to go ahead
and be creative to Chelsea Green, how would you go
ahead and pivot that baby face? I don't think would
be enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I think they can get there.
With her because I mean, it'd be worth taking the
risk because, like I said, everything they've ever given her
to do, she succeeds. Yeah, you know, I kind of
I kind of think of her the way I used
to think of Live Morgan, because for a long time,
I would think, why isn't Live Morgan in main events?
She's got everything, she is so good. I was saying
this a couple of years ago and then but fortunately
in the case of Live Morgan, they did finally figure
it out, and now she's a main eventor and she's incredible.
But she's she's kind of in that same category in
my mind where I used to think Live Morgan. She's
perpetually stuck in the mid card. But everything they've ever
given her to do, she succeeds. She's so good, she's
good at everything, promos or in ringwork, everything she does
is so good. Why isn't she in main events? But
she did get there.
Speaker 3: They got there with her, and she probably went ahead
and voiced her opinion, and Chelsea Green may not be
her opinion as much as she should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, who knows.
Speaker 3: So probably it's a lot of back at politics type stuff.
That's probably where you're hearing all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Charles, we are rapidly approaching the top of
the hour. We got to go. But I appreciate you
so much. It's always wonderful to speak with you. Great
to have you on the show. And I know we
do have you booked for another appearance coming up, but
Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 3: What WrestleMania coming up? In a boy, I'm gonna come
on on Saturday and we'll we'll talk both nights.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, No, I can't wait and tell us too before
we go. So you've got, of course, the Charles Richardson Show,
and you do a wrestling podcast, so go ahead and
tell us about this.
Speaker 3: So my current show, the Charles Richardson Show, because of
personal things I've had going on, has been on hiatus.
When we return, we're going to be on Wednesday's eight
to ten on Facebook. Okay, So just to go ahead
and look us up on Facebook, the Charles Richardson Show,
and also the Charles richardsonow on YouTube and the wrestling
podcast that we have again no no, no trying affiliation
with Tough Bumps. It's a little bit different of a
show that we do. It is called the Josh Zodiac Podcast.
Josh Sodiac is the one that hosts I am co
hosting Okay, Bud. You can go ahead and find them
on all social media platforms the Josh Zodiac podcast.
Speaker 2: Very good, very good, and while we're at it too,
I will mention tough bumps. Of course, Eric and I
will be on. Eric Pilcher and I and Austin Hicks
usually joins us most weeks as well. We'll be on
tomorrow night, Sunday night, I think at seven pm. No,
I'm sorry, six pm Eastern. It changes every week, but
you can find that of course on Facebook and YouTube
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platform of choice, as you should with this show as well,
because once we're off the air here, this goes up
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find it on the wmn H website and my website
Matt Connorton dot com. But Charles again, thank you so much,
my friend. Always great to talk to you, and I
look forward to the next time.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Have a good one, all right, brother, you gotta take
care