WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:13.160 What's Gucci? Stanley Tucci? 2 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:15.080 You can't do that? 3 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:18.879 What would you rather me say? 4 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.160 Do another thing that rhymes right now? Don't think about it. 5 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:29.679 What's what's happening? Cap Cape land chappinin Fuck? 6 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:30.839 That was way worse. 7 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:32.039 No, I was really good. 8 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.240 Do another one now, Hey, everybody, welcome back. 9 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.920 To fire Escape. I'm Stanley Tucci. That's Dan Riker. 10 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:40.719 It's not you're lying. I'm Dan. I I mean yes, 11 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.679 And Hi, Stanley, I love the food or whatever you do. 12 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:48.840 And Mary Kish, who's Stanley Tucci ring show or something? 13 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:52.359 So he's a famous actor. But now but now I'm confused. 14 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.840 Yeah, he does a searching for Italy like travel food 15 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:56.600 show on HBO. 16 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.840 Now he has a line. 17 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:00.640 Oh yeah. 18 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:03.119 Thing kind of blew up because he was doing like 19 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.280 kitchen videos on his own and people like just love 20 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:07.280 hearing him say anything. 21 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:08.239 I know who this is. 22 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.599 I'm looking at his dress. Well, I'm looking at his 23 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.760 U his IMDb right now, I don't know if I've 24 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.680 seen anything he's in. Oh, the Core, I've seen the core. 25 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:18.480 I think Devil Wears Prada was probably his breakout. 26 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:21.640 Beethoven, Oh my gosh, it's so good. 27 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.480 I can't believe you even't seen Devil war I. 28 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.319 Haven't seen The Devil Wears Prada. 29 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:33.040 Say that you did a Red Box letter show where 30 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:34.359 you reviewed movies. 31 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.040 I figured you had seen a very good movie. 32 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.359 I mean, it's what a romantic comedy and it's about fashion. 33 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.480 That's like two things that would be like kryptonite for me. 34 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:44.599 I don't think it's a rom com, is it. It's 35 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:45.439 it's like I. 36 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:47.840 Think I'm the audience for it, right. 37 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.719 No, actually, don't think it's a rom there's really almost 38 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:55.959 no rom in it. It's mostly a comedy and it's 39 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.120 mostly calm. It's about like a girl who doesn't really 40 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:01.640 know anything about fashion in getting eaten alive by like 41 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:05.280 a fashion world boss who's like a total bitch and 42 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:05.840 a half. 43 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:07.760 Wait, what's who's the who's the boss? Why am I 44 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:10.439 blanking on her name? Like most famous act ever? 45 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:11.960 It's not our friend Helen Mirren. 46 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.439 It's not her, no other white hair Meryl Meryl Street 47 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:16.599 straight close. 48 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:18.599 And Anne Hathaway is the like intern. 49 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.719 Okay, yeah, I mean, if it's about passion, there's no 50 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:23.080 chance in hell I ever have seen it. 51 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:28.919 It's really good, actually quite funny, but it's comedy. It's comedy. 52 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.479 It's it's a comedy first. I just think that's a 53 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:35.400 it's a mistaken advertising. It's actually it's comedy first. 54 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:36.879 You two seem naked. 55 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:37.520 Gun No. 56 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.159 But I saw your comment about it being the funniest 57 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:41.280 thing you've seen since mcgroober. 58 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.840 I couldn't. I have to see this for myself. I 59 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:44.879 think you would love it. 60 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.120 I think it is number two only to mcgroober for me, 61 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:50.080 and it's, you know, another Lonely Island directed and written movie. 62 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:53.439 But holy shit, I think both of you would fucking 63 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:55.120 love it. And I will watch this movie many more 64 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:57.599 times in my life, probably with you guys at some point. 65 00:02:57.719 --> 00:02:59.400 Yeah, let's watch it around Game of the Year. 66 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.280 Oh god, if you guys don't wait that long, I'll 67 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.800 do it. Like it's I'm just like forty jokes because 68 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.240 I was still laughing at the previous ones. 69 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:06.400 It's funny. 70 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:08.520 Yeah, I'm glaam Mason's game for all of it. 71 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:09.520 Oh, he's incredible. 72 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.919 I'm glad it's so funny too, because like the last 73 00:03:11.919 --> 00:03:14.919 thing that Liam Neeson was in that was funny was 74 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.159 that bit that skit where he was like, I want 75 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:20.800 to get into comedy and it's like super awkward and 76 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.280 funny because he shouldn't be doing comedies because he's like 77 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.840 known for Schindler's List and really serious roles. 78 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:31.439 But that's what he's around her for it that I know. Yeah, 79 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.719 I mean that's what Lee uh Leslie Nielsen was a 80 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:35.479 serious actor. 81 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:42.240 And no, I I I shouldn't joke about Schindler's List, 82 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:43.039 I guess. But there's a. 83 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:47.080 Sign that's a great winning a sentence. There's this Sign episode. 84 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:51.159 Where Jerry's newman catches Jerry making out with his Jewish 85 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.080 girlfriend during Schindler's List at the theater. 86 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.240 I haven't seen it. Do you think it holds up? 87 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.840 Yeah, Okay, it's in black and white, which I know 88 00:03:58.879 --> 00:03:59.719 you hate. 89 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:01.319 Well, but like for a reason, right, like don't they 90 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.319 show or something I haven't seen many black and white 91 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:07.759 movies or movies with subtitles. 92 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.719 Subtitles are really like, that's so limiting for you. 93 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:13.360 Well, I know it's because I remember I found that 94 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.199 like Google doc I made like fifteen years ago, and 95 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.040 it was like, here's one hundred and one things I 96 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:19.879 want to do in the next thousand and one days, 97 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:22.279 and like one of the only ones I didn't accomplish 98 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:23.879 was watch a movie with subtitles. 99 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.040 Really. Yeah, it's that a hard thing I have. 100 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.199 I've read language movies everything everywhere, all at once. I 101 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.759 did in Bonk, and I have watched lams like the 102 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:37.240 Seventh Samurai. I haven't seen Pants Labyrinth, so like I'm 103 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:39.480 more worldly now, but definitely like ten years ago, I 104 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:40.120 don't think i'd read. 105 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.160 There's so many horror movies, remember how like I recommended 106 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.959 a horror movie like, Oh, it really opens up if 107 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.839 you're willing to get into subtitles because there's some fucked 108 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:53.439 up and really good scary horror movies from like you know, 109 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.079 in other languages, and they're super worth watching. 110 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:57.800 I probably should. 111 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:02.480 Yeah, we watched Amanda and her cousin was staying with 112 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:06.480 us and we watched those two watched Barbarian with me for. 113 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:07.000 The first time. 114 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.000 Nice blind. It was going to blind. 115 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:11.199 They had no idea what it was about. 116 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:13.199 They're really squirming in their seats. 117 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.279 There's like a distinct moment where everyone I think, just 118 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.399 curls up into a ball because you're so freaked out. 119 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:23.560 Yeah, it's also I mean, it's been out for a while, 120 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.120 but I still don't want it. 121 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:26.639 If you haven't seen no don't worry. 122 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.399 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't say anything about 123 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:30.959 I want. 124 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.800 To watching two other people watch it, oh seeing them 125 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:34.879 like trying to. 126 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:36.160 Yeah, yeah I am. 127 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:39.160 I'm excited about Weapons, the new one by that director, 128 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:41.439 and I don't really know anything about it, so probably 129 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:42.720 just going to blind to that one as. 130 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.279 Well, just seeing the trailer. Did you see the trailer? 131 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.399 I might have trailer seeing it like months ago in 132 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:51.000 a theater or something, but like before I knew it, 133 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.120 so like if they if I did, I forgot everything. 134 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:53.800 I don't. 135 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:55.519 I don't know if it holds any weight or if 136 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.680 it's just a rumor. But I had heard read that 137 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.720 like Jordan Peele was trying really hard to get the 138 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.480 rights to the script, but this director either beat him out. 139 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.319 Somehow, oh well beat him off. 140 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.319 But did you know the director of Barbarian and Weapons 141 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.439 is like that is a dude from the Whitest Kids, 142 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:11.680 you know. 143 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:13.199 Yeah, it's like a sketch writer and performer. 144 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.959 Funny Yeah, yeah, which is there's maybe like off cam 145 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.959 I wanted I was. I didn't remember how funny parts 146 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:25.120 of Barbarian were, Like there there's the man. Yeah. I 147 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:27.279 really don't want to talk about yeah, this is bad radio. 148 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:29.800 I'll talk to well after when we're offline. I'll uh, 149 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:34.319 I'll tell you. But I was laughing so fucking hard. Yeah, 150 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:36.680 and then, uh, I want to see Naked Gun really badly, 151 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:37.639 but I guess I can wait. 152 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:39.839 I cannot say enough about it, and nothing I say 153 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.399 would would do it justice other than you two will 154 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:42.959 love it. 155 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.439 And I will. Yeah, I'll keep watching that movie anytime. 156 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:47.839 It's like, it's like an hour twenty five In every 157 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.160 twenty seconds there's a fucking joke that lands, like it 158 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:51.680 and they all land for the most part. 159 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.839 It's just unbelievable. Did I read there's another OJ joke 160 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:56.079 in this one too? 161 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:59.199 The trailer one one the trailer. 162 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.079 No, I haven't seen the trailer, Okay. 163 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.480 Keep it that way. Yeah, yeah, there's a good Yeah. 164 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.160 I remember the original one. OJ was in the movie 165 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:07.920 right at the beginning. 166 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:09.800 Well, no, he was like, yeah, he was a big 167 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:13.600 part of the original. Yeah, and yeah. 168 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.959 He's falling into like a wedding cake in the dock. Oh, 169 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:15.879 it's like putting stuck. 170 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:17.199 In a bucket. He falls out a window and gets 171 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.839 shot a million times, and like, yeah, that's great, Yeah, 172 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:21.000 so much. 173 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:24.720 That's just in the physical comedy. I'm excited to see that. 174 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.120 I saw twenty eight years later. 175 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:29.800 I saw that. 176 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.920 That's where I put my time this weekend. 177 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.040 I liked it. I just found the ending to be 178 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:36.240 so confusing. 179 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.160 I'm trying to remember that because I saw it and 180 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.720 I remember, I remember liking it more as it went on, 181 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.040 because like, I'm not normally a horror movie guy or zombie, 182 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:47.160 and I hadn't seen the first two movies, and I'm trying. 183 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:49.720 It's just one of the uh. 184 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:53.399 Know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. 185 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.680 I don't think it's necessary. I just I was shocked 186 00:07:56.720 --> 00:07:59.000 that that's the direction they went with it. But I 187 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.600 think it's very ark and brooding and very much in 188 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.560 line the film with the first movie. People who like 189 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.439 twenty eight days Later, most people are like, the first 190 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.319 one's great. Second one's like bad and can not very good, 191 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.000 And I think this one is entertaining. 192 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:13.759 It's entertaining, but I don't think it's good. 193 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:17.800 The intro sequence is phenomenal, but like that is not 194 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:20.959 the film. And then this new one, the movie is 195 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.160 like really dark and brooding and it's it's it's got 196 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.360 such an awesome premise, which I don't think is a 197 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.439 spoiler to say, Like they basically like live on an 198 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.000 island and the only way in and out of the 199 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:34.440 island is to walk on this like tiny little sand pathway, 200 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.480 and then it's covered by water, you know, during high tides, 201 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:40.559 so you only get a couple hours where you can 202 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:42.639 actually get to this island every day. And I find 203 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:47.039 that so entertaining, so interesting to me. And they have like, 204 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:50.679 you know, like a whole island system of Oh, I'm 205 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.120 the baker and I'm the person who makes the tools, 206 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.399 and I'm the teacher. Like they have a whole world 207 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.799 on this island, but they have to leave the island 208 00:08:57.799 --> 00:08:58.720 to get resources. 209 00:08:59.080 --> 00:08:59.720 Love that. 210 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:02.960 I think like a video game zombie with a yeah, 211 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.559 zombie movie with like an excellent plot is really appealing 212 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:09.279 to me. So I really did enjoy it, and I 213 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.000 was I was glad that I watched. It was either 214 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:14.679 that or going to the movies and seeing weapons, and 215 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:15.320 I was like, well, I. 216 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:19.000 Don't want to. Oh, twenty eight years later is streaming now, Yes. 217 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:22.159 The comfort of my living room. 218 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:22.559 Let me. 219 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:24.519 I want to ask Mary a question about the ending, 220 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.080 So past forward like a minute if you want wait 221 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:29.480 I don't want to hear this, Okay, Mary, do you 222 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:30.679 know what they were dressed like at the end? 223 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.320 Do you know what that was about? 224 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:34.559 I mean they all look like little religious figures. 225 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.799 It's a very specific reference from Britain. Do you know 226 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:41.679 Jimmy Saville, Jimmy Seville, the Master? Okay, there's a whole 227 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:45.120 Netflix documentary about him, like like oh shit, beyond Cosby 228 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:47.919 level monster, like, but he was a huge part of 229 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:50.440 British pop culture history and the. 230 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:55.120 Guy was like wearing all of his religious stuffs of 231 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:57.000 the people that I grew up watching like old British 232 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:58.559 pop culture at the time, and they've kind of built like 233 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:00.480 look it up because it's setting up the equal that's 234 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:02.679 coming up in like like six months or something like that. 235 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:04.559 So it's like I was like, what the fuck is this? 236 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:08.080 I didn't realize there's until Lucy. Lucy was like, oh, 237 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:10.080 the difference between people who grew up in the UK 238 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:11.399 and the people who didn't grow up in the UK 239 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:14.960 don't and it's like, oh shit, I've seen that was Yeah, 240 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.080 he's look up Jimmy Saville, and twenty eight years later 241 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.080 it's actually like pretty fucking interesting. 242 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:23.440 So all right, everyone's be come on back, Come on back, 243 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:23.919 Come on back. 244 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:25.799 Be so fucking funny if you've told me to come 245 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.279 back and then as soon as I put them on, 246 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:28.320 you just spoiled everything. 247 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:29.639 No, no, no, no. 248 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:30.360 That'd be funny. 249 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.080 Yeah, I can't wait to watch that. I also need 250 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.440 to see the Phoenician scheme new Wes Anderson. Yeah, I 251 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.000 cannot wait for one battle after another. 252 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:40.799 One battle. 253 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.279 It's the Paul Thomas Anderson's sex movie with Leo DiCaprio 254 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.440 and Benicio del Toro. So it's based on a book. 255 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:48.320 I think Jake is reading it. Jake has do you 256 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:51.720 guys know how Jake does this thing where any book 257 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.799 that a PTA movie is based on he reads. 258 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.279 So he read oil exclamation. 259 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:59.639 Point and yeah, yeah, so he's reading. I think this 260 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:03.320 is based It's not a Thomas Pinsion book, but like 261 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.519 in Harar and Vice was. But yeah, either way, it 262 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:09.840 looks very fucking funny. It's like a modern day rebel 263 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:15.000 uprising in l A, I think, but like Benicio Latro 264 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:20.360 is Leo's sense, but Leo is just a total fucking 265 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:21.679 slob in the trailer. 266 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.320 Oh this sounds great, like a real piece of ship. 267 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:29.600 Where it's like those one battle after the neck. Okay, 268 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:30.879 one battle after another. 269 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.600 Oh wow, Okay, I'm very interested in this. 270 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:36.320 Immediately sunglass he's wearing like the gators or whatever they're called, 271 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:37.960 the sunglasses. 272 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:38.919 But like everyone you're reaching is being part of it. 273 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:40.679 I'm just like, Okay, that sounds excellent. 274 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.679 I mean, yeah, I don't think I dislike any of 275 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.720 Paul Thomas Anderson's movie Thread. 276 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.440 Oh I love that movie. That's don't again. 277 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:51.000 It seems like it was about fashion, and I was like, 278 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.360 I don't think I'm the audience for this. 279 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:55.080 It's about fashion in the same way like The Wrestler 280 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:58.679 is about wrestling. Like it's pretty good wrestling movie, you right, 281 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.039 Like they go deep on, but the movie is about 282 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:01.720 much more than that. 283 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:02.120 It's this. 284 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:06.960 It's about like this literally, I it's kind of spoiler 285 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.559 to say literally, but it's a toxic relationship between Daniel 286 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:11.960 day Lewis and the actor. 287 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.960 I do love Damian day Lewis and and Taul Thomas Anderson. 288 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.200 So I think you'd like it it, eh. 289 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.200 I actually don't know. I can't recommend a wholeheartedly. I 290 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:22.879 mean I don't. I don't like to recommend things lest 291 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.480 some positive The Land. Well, okay, I know you hated 292 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:27.399 Magnolia though, right. 293 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.879 I mean, I appreciate when something that weird exists, Like 294 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:33.720 I love it when people spend a whole lot of 295 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.840 money on shit that's just bonkers, like you know, see 296 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.080 my Kajima obsession and everything. So I appreciate it. I 297 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:42.679 did not enjoy watching it, really, Okay, fair enough, it's 298 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.200 really long. I love The Master though. It's one of 299 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:46.639 my favorite movies. I never saw that either. 300 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:49.360 That movie. You should watch that before you watch Phantom Thread. 301 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:51.320 I remember that's just kind of middling reviews. So I 302 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:52.279 didn't wind up seeing it. 303 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.360 I fucking I think it's amazing. 304 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.919 It's Philip Seymour Hoffman and Jaquin Phoenix just trying to 305 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:57.840 out act each other. 306 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:00.559 That sounds fun. It's and they're like. 307 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.360 People talk about how good Phillip seymore Hoffin is in 308 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:04.120 that he's basically playing l Ron Hubbard. 309 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:05.320 Yeah, but like. 310 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:08.679 Joaquin Phoenix, I would actually say Jaquin Phoenix, I think, 311 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:10.840 to be reductive and just compare them. I think Jaquin 312 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.159 Phoenix is better in that movie. He plays such a 313 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:17.639 fucking weirdo, a dude who's like clearly got PTSD from 314 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:19.759 world War two before they knew what that actually. 315 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:21.240 I don't know if they knew what that was back then, 316 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:23.399 they might have, but like, he's fucked up. 317 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:28.120 Okay, Yeah, the movie's amazing, and it's just basically like 318 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.679 if l Ron Hubbard got consistently called out for the 319 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.679 inaccuracies in his teachings. 320 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:40.159 Okay, hew full of shit like Phillip Semore. 321 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.080 Hoffin's character is kind of a stand in for like 322 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.000 l Ron Hubbard or like any. 323 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:49.039 I guess church leader. But yeah, he it's it's awesome. 324 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.759 I like that movie. I think it's twenty twelve that 325 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:55.440 came out when I was at Game and Former Sure. Nice, yeah, but. 326 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.759 I can't wait for one battle after the next whatever 327 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:02.360 it's called. What else have you guys been up to? 328 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:05.000 Well, Mary like a month? Well yeah, Mary had a 329 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.679 suggestion for you. I remember I watched a couple of 330 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.440 weeks ago, but we didn't wind up talking about it. 331 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.960 Speaking of movies, I've been trying to get everybody to 332 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:17.360 watch K Pop Demon Hunters because I was shocked with 333 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.080 my reaction to it, and I was curious what you 334 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:21.759 guys thought. 335 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:23.559 I will say I did not watch it. 336 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.320 If you want to wait I promise I will watch 337 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.000 it by next episode. I told you guys before this, 338 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:29.679 I've had like a migraine building up all day, so 339 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:31.200 it's trying not to look at screens as much as 340 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:32.519 I could. If you want to talk about it now, 341 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:33.919 I'll go for it, but I will watch it by 342 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:34.519 next episode. 343 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:37.039 If you want to hold off. Up to you Mary, up. 344 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:39.039 To you, Dan, what'd you think? 345 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:40.480 Yeah, go for it. 346 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:44.159 It was a process for me, and I get the 347 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.919 premise quick, so I like, what is it? Because Mary's like, Mike, 348 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:48.679 can you watch this by tennight? Was like, I'll try, 349 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.200 But what the fuck is K pop Demon Hunters? 350 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.639 Mary? Do you want to? Sure? 351 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:55.480 So? 352 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:59.679 It's a K pop oh yeah group? And they also 353 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:01.279 hunt demons? 354 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:03.320 Is in anime? 355 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:04.360 It isn't? 356 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:09.759 It is a musical anime? Well cartoons. I'm gonna just 357 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:11.799 I'm gonna classify it as CG cartoon. 358 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:12.279 Yeah. 359 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:18.879 And there is then a rival K pop group. 360 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:23.519 Of men that start competing with them, and then they 361 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:27.559 find out that the K pop competing group of boys 362 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.600 are demons, and then they have to K pop fight 363 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.519 their way out of who's going to win the crowd 364 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.320 because if the demons win, they're gonna suck the souls 365 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.799 of all the fans. But the girls are losing their popularity, 366 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:48.080 and they're also fighting amongst themselves, and one of the 367 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:51.320 girls likes one of the boys. 368 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.799 Ooh, like a capula in a Montague is a bit. 369 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:57.159 Like a Montague situation. 370 00:15:57.799 --> 00:15:59.759 Dan, that's a naked gun reference. I'm surprise you can't 371 00:15:59.759 --> 00:15:59.960 catch you. 372 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.240 That's Romeo and Juliet. I'm a red man. 373 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.399 What oh r e a d Yeah? 374 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:08.120 Read a book? 375 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.120 What about it? 376 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.639 Kind of sounded had Scott Pilgrim vibes the premise to 377 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.480 what you were saying, Like, I hate that movie. 378 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:21.120 I hate everything Scott Pilgrim so fucking much. Yeah, I 379 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:21.840 remember the worst. 380 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:23.679 Also when I was a game for him, I remember 381 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.200 that movie was still like people were obsessed with it. 382 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:29.639 Just lame emo nerd bait ship. Just wasn't funny, like 383 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.399 just nerds suck. Yeah, just everyone was dorking out about it. 384 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:34.679 Just dumb nerd bait ship. 385 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:36.759 You know what I do when I see nerds, I 386 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:37.240 give him. 387 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.519 I give him Swirly USA over here, brother fucking Swirly 388 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:47.840 Central Russia for me heading the toilet feet in the clouds. 389 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:50.039 Yeah, died as he lived. 390 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.720 Had the toilet geez, no I died giving someone Oh 391 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:57.840 I see okay, Mary. 392 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:01.240 It was an uphill battle, uh for us because if 393 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.279 there's three things okay, so me and Bank, like I wasn't. 394 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:05.960 I didn't think we're gonna have time to watch because 395 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:07.480 like Tuesday night was the only night that I would 396 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:08.720 have been able to do it. And it's usually me 397 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.119 and Bunks movie night. And I was like, you know, 398 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:13.279 Mary was really giving me the hard cell. I'm like, 399 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:15.359 and we didn't have anything locked in. I was like, 400 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:17.319 do you wanna do you want to try this? No, 401 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:18.640 she was just like, let's do it. I was ready 402 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:19.160 to write it off. 403 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:19.960 She was like, let's do it. 404 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.440 But and I went in blind and it's I'm telling 405 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.240 me that before the title it did numerous things that 406 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.599 is just kryptonite to me and Bunk. We don't I mean, 407 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:32.759 we don't really know anything about K pop. I don't 408 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.559 think we've ever seen I could probably point out K 409 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.759 pop and a police lineup, but like we've never taken 410 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.119 it in. No, and then like we don't like musicals, 411 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.440 like you know, Bunk and I saw Hamilton and Dear 412 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:45.640 Evan Hanson and all that, and like well, we don't 413 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:46.599 like musicals at all. 414 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:50.480 Well, you didn't like Hamilton? No, I mean I literally 415 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:55.319 did not like. I know, I don't like you. I know, 416 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.200 I just really lame, like I left. 417 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.240 I just it's so the raps are the lamest shit 418 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:02.359 I've ever seen in my likes. 419 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:04.079 Does Alex Bonyelo know that? 420 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.400 Oh yeah, he's He was texting me in the last 421 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:09.279 few weeks trying to explain musicals to me. It's like, 422 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:10.400 I trust me, it's not going. 423 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:15.599 Speaking of Hamilton and lin Manuel Miranda, Alex Boniello is 424 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.160 on the the the I. 425 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:20.319 Don't even know how you describe it. Basically, lin Manuel Miranda. 426 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:25.359 They revived The Warriors, Yeah, as an audio musical, and 427 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.079 Alex Bannelo plays a character on it. 428 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:29.039 He sings, yeah, oh what does he say? 429 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.440 He's got a really funny line. He's like, I'm not 430 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.279 here to I got to look it up. 431 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:35.200 I don't. I'll let me you keep talking. I'm gonna 432 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:36.200 find it's a really funny one. 433 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.599 So yeah, No, But to give Hamilton some credit, I 434 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:40.960 do remember leaving the theater that night and thinking like, well, 435 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.680 those people are good at their jobs. So that's probably 436 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:45.240 the nicest thing I have to say about Hamilton. But 437 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.559 we don't like musicals. We don't know anything about K pop, 438 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:49.960 and we don't like anything that's meant for kids, you know, 439 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:51.960 like Disney stuff. We don't seek out, you know, Like 440 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.319 it's just like and so we go in blind red flags. Yeah, 441 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.640 we go in blind and ride away. Just like the 442 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.960 art style and the tone. I'm just kind of like, Okay, 443 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.720 here we fucking go. And then it was the moment 444 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:06.359 they're on the plane at the beginning and they start 445 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:09.640 fucking singing as they're fighting, and I just turned to Bonks, 446 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:11.400 I'm like, are we gonna be able to do this? 447 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.079 Is this like I know, even doing this for Mary? 448 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:15.759 I know it would be so we can talk about it, 449 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:19.839 but like, fuck, they're singing, they're making Quippi fucking Marvel 450 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:21.759 type jokes and stuff, and it's like, oh boy, this 451 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.640 and give bank credit. They're like, not me for like 452 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:27.400 she was like, no, let's let's see it through. You know. 453 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.160 Is this why she unfollowed me on? 454 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:29.759 Oh? 455 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:32.160 Probably? Yeah? I know she had she had a whole 456 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.279 tirade ready for her and she's like, all just follow 457 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:35.720 her up my tongue. 458 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:40.839 No, no, she did it. I give her credit, she's 459 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.319 she's more open minded. 460 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:43.000 Yeah. 461 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:44.720 So it's just one of those things where it's like 462 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.400 I can't separate in my head with musicals, Like I've 463 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:52.720 never understood why a character would be singing like people 464 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:53.480 don't do that. 465 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:56.759 Well they're K pop stars. Does that help? 466 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:58.640 That's the thing is, So if it's like this like 467 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:01.720 in universe thing where it's like, oh, actually they do 468 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:04.240 kind of explain it, it does help a little bit, 469 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:06.640 because I always do struggle if it's like a Broadway 470 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.960 thing or a Disney movie or something, and it's like, 471 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.759 why aren't you just saying what you feel? Why are 472 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:13.440 you seeing? Why isn't anyone think it's weird that you're 473 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:15.839 just singing out of nowhere? Yeah? I do not fucking 474 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.079 understand it. My brain doesn't track with it. But as 475 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:21.640 it went on, there was every once in a while, okay, 476 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:24.160 a little chuckle here, little chuckle there, a little like 477 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:26.480 as like, oh, that fight seems actually really well put together. 478 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:28.599 I think the first time I started kind of chuckling 479 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:30.880 and bunked to two was like when the rival boy 480 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.359 K pop band shows up and like, you know, the 481 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.079 girls are all like their eyes are popcorn coming out 482 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:39.000 and like the ab stuff was really funny. And then 483 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:41.400 we both started like really laughing with that weird cat 484 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:42.880 with the like bird. 485 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:44.920 Like when the cat. 486 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.240 Knocking stuff over and everything. We were both like, okay, 487 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:49.759 we're both like openly laughing right now at this And 488 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:53.440 by the end, I will say, and the animation is incredible. 489 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:56.880 It is undeniably incredible. By the end, I did not 490 00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:58.319 hate it. It looks like I. 491 00:20:58.960 --> 00:20:59.839 Did not hate it. 492 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.559 I gave it three stars out of five, the same 493 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.640 score I gave President John Cena and Prime Minister Address 494 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:10.960 Alba movie I get higher than Happy Gilmore too. 495 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:11.920 I gave it to like, you. 496 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:13.079 Know, I would be Gilmore. 497 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:13.839 Two sucks. 498 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.400 That's the thing is like when I saw it near it. 499 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:17.960 When I saw it, I was like, all right, the 500 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:20.240 bar was low. I was expecting nothing from it. But 501 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:22.200 then it's like I got a couple of little chuckles 502 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:23.400 out of it, so it's like, all right, that wouldn't 503 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:25.079 be bad. And then I saw Naked Gun, I'm like, 504 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:26.960 oh right, comedies can be brilliant. 505 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:29.039 You know totally what comedy is. 506 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:32.960 Yeah, I think speaking of I found the line oh 507 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:35.519 Alex Banielo on the album he plays a character named Luther, 508 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:39.559 and at one point he has a line lyric I 509 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:40.599 didn't come to make friends. 510 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.480 I came to make your dad shit his depends. 511 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:51.680 Wait sorry, is it a rap like the other one? Uh? 512 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:54.559 There's like there's definitely some hip hop vibes to it, 513 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:56.920 but not not like on the level of Hamilton. 514 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.880 I don't know how anyone could ever hear Lynn ma 515 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.920 Newill Miranda say or sing anything and think this is cool. 516 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:07.039 I like this, they will say, I will say Lin 517 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:09.559 Manuel is my least favorite part of Hamilton. 518 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:13.880 NI Mike Manatti un ironically says that Lynn Manuel Miranda 519 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:14.880 is his favorite rapper. 520 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:19.799 I think he's really smarmy. He's everything I've heard. He 521 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:21.119 sounds like a wonderful human being. 522 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:21.759 I don't know that. 523 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:24.440 Yes, yes, absolutely, Butello is good friends with them. I 524 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:28.240 wondering separation. I've heard nothing about him. Yeah, No, I 525 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:30.039 just don't like you stuff. I'm sure you're great. It 526 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:31.759 just seems like everything you do for your life's work 527 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:38.160 seems insufferable. Oh yeah, even children, Like who is the 528 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.440 potential audience here just doing like a weird dumb like 529 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.880 YouTube rap level? Like my name missus Hamilton, I'm here to. 530 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:45.920 Say I shot a guy. 531 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:50.559 Like it's like, are people like fucking with me and 532 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:52.720 saying this is good? It's in him? 533 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:53.160 Amazing. 534 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:59.000 I've I've genuinely not heard anybody that dislikes him, Like the. 535 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.559 United States are fucking with You're a. 536 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:05.640 Man in humor and like, wait, please, I'm gonna try 537 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:09.240 to be open minded the ear what I'm gonna try, 538 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:12.920 But you're so so it's so stupid to me. It 539 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:15.720 feels like the universe is playing a prank on me. Like, 540 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:17.640 what do you like about Hamilton? 541 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.160 I think the lyrics are incredible. I think the characters 542 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.039 are extremely deep. I think it's heart wrenching at parts. 543 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:27.519 I think it's hilarious. I think it's like it's it's 544 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:33.000 just vibrating with electric Like I don't know, I've never 545 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:34.839 been asked what do I like about Hamilton? 546 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:40.200 You think you know someone I know I love? This 547 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:41.279 might be grounds. 548 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:43.039 Are you surprised I like musicals? 549 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:47.359 Not I mean specifically Hamilton. It seems so lame. 550 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.279 Oh this guy likes musicals who has this book on 551 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:52.920 his book? I know you're a fucking whine dude, but like. 552 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:58.480 I associate Broadway with like theater kids stuff and you 553 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.440 number struck me as a theater you know. 554 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:02.160 I Oh, to be clear, I've I've been to one 555 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:02.839 Broadway show. 556 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.319 It was King Kong because they had an animatronic giant 557 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.000 gorilla lean over the audience. 558 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.240 It was cool. I loved it. Apparently the show was bad. 559 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:11.559 I didn't know enough about theater. 560 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.839 But but people say Hamilton like broke Through, Like it's 561 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:19.559 not just something that thee like or musical people like 562 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.119 Hamilton was so beloved it became pop culture. It tapped 563 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:26.720 into a vein of people who wanted to experience history 564 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:28.839 in a not boding back then. 565 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:31.079 Oh yeah, they sang. 566 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:33.799 I'm tried to temper myself a little bit because I 567 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:35.880 was kind of talking about musical ago there. 568 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.200 I don't give a ship whether you like Hamilton. He 569 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.079 asked me a question for me for myself. 570 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.079 I'm trying to temper myself because a few weeks ago 571 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:44.599 I found myself getting heated about musicals and giant bomb 572 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:46.519 and Bank was watching and texted me and he's like, 573 00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.599 you're being very Paul Record right now. And I'm like, 574 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:50.599 oh shit, she's right, but. 575 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:53.000 You don't have to like Okay, Actually, I have a question. 576 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:55.279 Have you seen the movie on Hulu. It's a Hulu 577 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:59.680 originally like theater Camp. No, okay, hmmm. 578 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.279 Trying to weigh whether I was in. 579 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:04.720 Theater classes in high school. I loved it. I acted 580 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:08.799 in school and tell you until they started doing singing 581 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:10.559 and I was like, I'm completely out of this. Like 582 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:12.759 even as a teenager, I was like, this is insane. 583 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:17.200 I uh, I'm a terrible singer. But I was not 584 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.839 a theater kid. I will say theater Camp on Hulu 585 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:23.799 reminds me of Palm Springs. It's one of those, like 586 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:28.920 Hula original overlooked gems. You should watch theater Camp. It's 587 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:29.480 really funny. 588 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.839 I just give it, don't. You don't have to be 589 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:33.720 you don't have to be in a theater. 590 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:39.400 I'm not in the music Disney like uh, Little Mermaid 591 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.240 when you were growing you know what? 592 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.640 And I was the right Disney age. I like Little 593 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:46.960 I never liked Beating the Beast. I didn't get that. 594 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.920 I liked Little Mermaid. I liked Lion King, and I 595 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.960 like to like my guest, be my guest, the Simpson's version. 596 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.599 But sure, yeah, I'll take it. 597 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:01.319 But my best you like a Latin because Jasmine was bid. Yeah, 598 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.119 I wasn't too. 599 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.000 I was six, you know, like I I never ever 600 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.160 went back and watched those movies. I think, like, I 601 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:10.799 can't imagine that now, But. 602 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:15.000 When did the thing happen in your brain? Where childhood? 603 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:16.839 Eight eight? 604 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.000 I don't know, why the are they singing? Like even 605 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:21.640 as a child, you know, and do you. 606 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:24.319 Spend much of your life playing Nintendo games? I don't think. 607 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.559 I know, I know, I know, I know not that you. 608 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:27.920 Can't be an adult like Nintendo games. 609 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:31.480 But you get no, No, it wasn't someone who played games. 610 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:33.640 I could probably make the exact same argument about Mario. 611 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:35.839 You're a little cartoon plumber guy and you're yeah, But 612 00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:39.319 it's just something about the singing, Like I'm not someone 613 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.799 who thinks that stuff for kids can't be good or 614 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.400 have value or anything like that. I just think, specifically 615 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.559 my brain, this is just a me thing. I can't 616 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.400 get over the fact that, like, why the fuck are 617 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:50.200 they singing right now? 618 00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:50.720 Nobody does? 619 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:52.359 Have you seen in canto? 620 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:53.599 No? 621 00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:55.279 In canto? 622 00:26:55.599 --> 00:27:00.759 A lot of people compare to like modern did the 623 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:02.720 like Lion. 624 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.480 King a movie songs? 625 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:08.319 Yeah, it's a Disney movie with you know, cartoon people 626 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.640 who are going through ship and then sometimes they're singing, 627 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.319 but the songs are pretty good. 628 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:15.400 But why wouldn't they if they're going through why wouldn't 629 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.160 they just talk about it and have a scene about it? 630 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.839 And I'm sad, you. 631 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.799 Know, like I just thought that the theater goes back 632 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:27.720 far far into history when like singing, it wasn't like 633 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.920 a weird thing, like that's how they told stories as 634 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:31.440 with a side. 635 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.720 I mean, I went to my therapist today and saying, 636 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:35.039 you know, like. 637 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:39.720 It's nothing going to be realistic, like you just you 638 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.200 you just played a game where a guy fucking drops 639 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:46.000 people into some ink to so their bodies don't blow 640 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:47.319 up and torch the earth. 641 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:48.160 Yeah, it's cool. 642 00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:53.359 When I turned date, I realized it just wasn't real. 643 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:58.200 Yeah, but they don't, like that's the thing they're not saying. 644 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.799 I actually got there is actually like a music I was. 645 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.279 Gonna say, the puppet scene, like you can have him 646 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:04.359 I'm around. 647 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.440 No, they got even more music stuff and. 648 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.599 They sing happy birthday to you. 649 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:10.960 No, that's the thing, Happy birthday. 650 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:15.200 That's the thing people do well exactly exactly. Why don't 651 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:17.079 you just go up to someone when you hand them 652 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.000 a cake on their birthday and say happy Birthday? 653 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:19.680 Why do you sing it? 654 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.519 I guess it's a tradition. It's a fun thing. 655 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:25.839 There you go, The keyword was fun. 656 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.400 I do realize this is fully just my dad, because 657 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:29.680 it's like I was asking about that, you know, that 658 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.440 Saturday Night movie that came out about Saturday Night Live, 659 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.359 And I thought like, oh, man, dad's such a big 660 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:36.400 doork for like old SNL stuff, Like I bet he'd 661 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.640 love this Saturday Night Live movie. And I asked him, 662 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:39.880 like have you seen it? He's like, oh, the one 663 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:41.680 with all the fake people. And I was like, what 664 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:43.640 do you mean. He's like, yeah, the fake people playing 665 00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.599 the real people. And I was like, yeah, chevy Chase 666 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:47.640 is like eighty, He's not going to play himself in 667 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.119 nineteen seventy five, So. 668 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:51.279 What is Chevy Chase doing in all his movies playing 669 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:51.839 other people? 670 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:52.920 Yeah? 671 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.000 Look, I'm not saying this makes sense. It's a good 672 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.359 way to think. I'm just saying it's how I think. 673 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.799 John Belushi is not actually a pimp when he popped 674 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.880 his mouth in Animal House? What is Why do I 675 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.559 Why do I spend so much time explaining things to you? 676 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.400 And that's what every friend of mine has been saying 677 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.279 for many years, like it's not right. I know, I 678 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.319 know it's stupid. I'm in the minority here, but it's 679 00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.799 just like, don't like musicals, to be clear, I don't care. 680 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:21.559 Music. 681 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.000 Not being stoked about musicals in general, which I like, 682 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:28.000 I think is just like a personal preference of yours 683 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:30.359 and specifically. 684 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.200 Hating Lin Manuel. 685 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:36.279 Okay, if it committed musical present, if if it's a 686 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.079 play about the life of Alexander Hamilton and the duel 687 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.039 and all that stuff, would be great, that's fine. But 688 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.240 then it's like every time, like you'd hear the music 689 00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.799 Starred and something, it's just like, here we fucking go. 690 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:47.640 You're gonna sing a fucking song about it, Like. 691 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:48.920 The lyrics are incredible? 692 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.279 Okay to me either or not subjective? 693 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.160 Oh sorry, it's not James Mayard Keene or where the 694 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:57.240 fuck his name is? 695 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.880 What the tool guy? Oh that tool? Me beyond that tool. 696 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:02.599 I love tool. I thought it was me and you 697 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:03.119 that liked it. 698 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:06.720 Sorry, Banca was a I didn't mean to shoot that 699 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:07.640 stray bullet at you. 700 00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.200 Yeah. I you don't have to like musicals, to be clear, 701 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:12.880 even Book. 702 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:14.839 Of Mormon, like I like Trey Parker Matt's own stuff. 703 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.200 I love south Park to America all that stuff, and like. 704 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.119 I, yeah, there's a lot of musicals in there. 705 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.000 South Park hasn't been relevant for twenty years, that's what 706 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.359 I hear. Yeah, actually, yeah, I think it might be 707 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:30.799 relevant again finally. Yeah, well yeah, but when when it's cartoons, so, like, 708 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.839 you know, like South Park. I love the South Park 709 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.640 movie and it's straight up a musical. I bought the 710 00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.920 soundtrack as a kid and everything, and like it's fantastic. 711 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:39.160 But I think it's just because like it is in 712 00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:42.200 this whimsical, like oh, it's just these cartoon characters and 713 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.319 this silly, you know, story and stuff, like I think 714 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.319 I can accept it, or even Team America where it's 715 00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.279 like how ridiculous is it that these puppets are singing 716 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:48.920 and all this stuff? 717 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:49.119 You know. 718 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.519 I think it's just when you're showing me real people 719 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.759 on a stage or in a movie, I just can't 720 00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:56.279 handle it. 721 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:58.839 I'm gonna now that I know this, I'm gonna like, 722 00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.079 the next time you're here or when I'm at your house, 723 00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.000 I'm going to like try to put a musical on 724 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:04.720 without you knowing. 725 00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.519 I'll know I'll detect it well, you'll know when. 726 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:09.359 They start dancing and singing. Yeah, but like you know, 727 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:10.039 you'll know when. 728 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.559 The police show up and kick you out of my house. 729 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.559 Imagine imagine what what Dan? 730 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.400 What would your brain do if you saw Will Forte 731 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.200 and and uh Jorma Jorma yeah, announced that they're doing 732 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:23.200 a mcgrooverer musical. 733 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.200 Well, I mean, I know it would be hilarious. I 734 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.480 know it would be funny because there wouldn't be any 735 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:29.680 remote like taking self seriously thing where it's like I 736 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.359 think when people talk about like hamils and stuff like 737 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.599 this is important to no pop culture, you know. 738 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:37.960 And then well, you know, rest in peace. 739 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.720 But like imagine I Val Kilm is alive and he 740 00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:42.680 came on stage, He's like, week. 741 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:47.119 No, I would probably love musical. There's an old Way. 742 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.359 So there's old Seth Meyers joke about the Rocky Musical 743 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.480 and he's like, oh yeah, this, this Rocky musical is 744 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.079 gonna have Broadway next week. He's like, so if you're 745 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.440 a fan of the bravado and machismo of the Rocky 746 00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:02.200 film franchise and lavish Broadway musicals, who are you know? 747 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.160 But that's kind of how I feel, Like, Yeah, that's 748 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.240 just that is not for me at all. 749 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.279 And it sounds like you like it if it's ironic. 750 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:13.279 But what I will say is Puppets, you liked K 751 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.119 pop Demon Hunters, I. 752 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:16.200 Forgot what you're talking about. 753 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.079 I did generally like it. Again, three stars, that's a 754 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.960 good host, that's a that's a good score for me. 755 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.000 I got that tied with Jingle all the way, Alien Romulus. 756 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.680 Oh god, I can't believe it tied with Moms not 757 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:31.359 three stars. 758 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:32.319 That movie is not good. 759 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.400 It is fine, It was fine. Yeah, I don't know. 760 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.039 I I very much tried to be open mindedn't give 761 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:40.519 new things a chance and stuff like that. But it 762 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.559 did have an uphill battle, uh that I do think 763 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:44.160 it overcame. 764 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.640 I fight through a lot of your ignorance to get 765 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:48.640 those three stars. 766 00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:49.960 Now we're just getting personal. 767 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.000 My goodness, I'm actually like really proud of that. We 768 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.759 had to fight decades of like just complete and utter 769 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:02.440 anger and like, you know, know, deception. You didn't want 770 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:03.920 to believe that you could. 771 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.920 Like this, And to give Bank credit, as I always 772 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.279 liked to, I was going to turn it off if 773 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.559 Bank had any kind of like, yeah, let's turn it off, 774 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:12.839 all right, let's go watch something better. 775 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.559 We gotta give it up to Bank. 776 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:18.279 I feel like she's always benefited your life for the good. 777 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.279 Oh go shoving vegetables in your gullet. She's getting you 778 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.079 to to like live a healthier, better life. And now 779 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:30.599 the first musical you didn't hate, and I'm I'm excited. 780 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.559 I think, if anything, this only reaffirms my belief that 781 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:36.359 every time I think I should be proud of you, 782 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:38.799 my pride is actually for Bank. 783 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.440 Oh oh yeah, any credit of me in the last 784 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:41.839 ten years. 785 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.000 Yeah, I do want to watch Friendship you've been telling 786 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:47.319 me about. 787 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.480 I see clips of it. What's that? What's the actor's name? 788 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:51.839 Hard to get through that fucking Oh you've seen it. 789 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.559 I saw it in theaters and me and everybody in 790 00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.160 that fucking theater walked out and said the same thing, 791 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.039 which was, like, what the fuck was that really? 792 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:04.960 Three and a half? I gave that slightly love. 793 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.320 I cannot, I cannot, and I love I love that show. 794 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:16.360 I love Tim Robinson. I'm in. It's just so so dry, 795 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:18.400 like it's really hard. 796 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.639 There's a very few laugh jokes. 797 00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:22.519 Are you kidding? 798 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:26.119 I was cracking up at one joke. Mike, very brief 799 00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.480 take it off very brief. The drug trip scene with 800 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:33.360 the frog, that was the funniest ship. Okay, you put 801 00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.480 it back on, you put it back on. Killed. 802 00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.400 There's there's a couple I'm telling you, and there's there's 803 00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:42.719 simple ones too, like I got a full coffee here, 804 00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.519 Like there's funny things that happened that I'm like, that's funny. 805 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:50.159 But generally I was just like, this guy is so sad. 806 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.840 It is a weird one again. Three and a half 807 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:54.800 isn't like glowing for me, but like, you know, it's 808 00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.639 I thought it was generally good and like for Mike 809 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.440 specifically and his you know, big Tim Robinson fandom, I 810 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:02.440 think it's very much. 811 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.360 I am also a big Tim Robinson fan, and I 812 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.239 will be curious what you think, because like I struggled, 813 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.400 like I think, like towards the end of that film, 814 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.960 I was like, why isn't this funnier? It's it is funny, 815 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:14.559 it's just so hard to watch. 816 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.000 I saw the scene the boxing scene with the soap 817 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:18.239 in his. 818 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.960 Mouth, boxing scene with the soap, and I don't remember that. 819 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:21.480 I don't know. 820 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.639 I just watched a bunch of clips yesterday. He's boxing 821 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.239 with Paul Rudd. In their garage. 822 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.119 Maybe it was a deleted scene. I don't know, but 823 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.039 it's uncomfortable. 824 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.159 They have the whole film is uncomfortable. 825 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.199 There is like an extended scene of him playing drums 826 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.159 during a party where I was like, just leave, just 827 00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:41.960 go home. 828 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:43.639 What's the actor? What's the other actor? 829 00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.039 And not no Connor Mley. 830 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.000 Yes, yeah, I find him to be so fucking funny. 831 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.559 He was in Palm Springs as well. Yeah, they when 832 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:53.880 the earthquake happens. 833 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.000 He's like, no, I should have never left a Great Lakes. 834 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.639 He cracks me up quite a long. If your horny, 835 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.079 I think you should leave schedule. 836 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.760 He's talking about when he's talking about the Goonies and 837 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.760 that clip that you sent me, He's like, I don't 838 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:07.760 even think it would fly today. 839 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.119 He's like, I don't know what the word is, but 840 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.559 he's pretty melted. Slot. 841 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.079 Yeah, yeah, I want to watch Friendship. 842 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.440 I'll see if I can get through it. But yeah, 843 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:17.960 you should watch. 844 00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:18.840 You'll get through it. 845 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:20.800 I'm just curious if you're going to be like this 846 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.119 is laugh out loud funny from beginning to end, or 847 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.679 if you're like I was uncomfortable because it was a 848 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.639 sketch that was two hours long. 849 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.440 Mary, you'd like Theater Camp. If you haven't seen it, 850 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:32.960 you don't have to be a theater kid. It's it's 851 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.519 a mockumentary with what's her name? 852 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:44.199 She played the and the Bear. She was like the 853 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.559 love interest in season two. She's in Theater. 854 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:54.920 Camp to three years old. Jimmy Tatreau is in it, 855 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.960 the bro guy from Real Bros. Of Simi Valley or 856 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.599 whatever it's called. He oh, the the main dude in 857 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.559 American Vandal, that mockumentary they did a few years ago. 858 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:05.159 Theater Camp's really funny. 859 00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:09.920 I like it quite a bit, but yeah, I really 860 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.039 want to see twenty eight years later. 861 00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:13.440 Now that I know it's streaming, I might watch that 862 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:14.239 this weekend. 863 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.800 Yeah, I had to pay for it, but again my 864 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.360 justification is like I didn't want to leave the house, 865 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.639 but I wanted to see like a new movie, if 866 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.679 that makes sense. And like usually when after it's not 867 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.440 in theaters, if you wait a long enough time, it'll 868 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.159 just be on like HBO or Netflix, like one of 869 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.519 those major dudes will buy it and then you can 870 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.880 watch it for free, quote unquote, because you're paying the subscription, 871 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.079 but you're not paying for the film. I spent twenty 872 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:46.599 dollars renting this movie because it just came out on streaming, 873 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:48.559 and I was like, I don't want to wait for 874 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:50.960 it to be on Netflix, but I don't want to 875 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:51.599 go to the theater. 876 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.719 Yeah, it's never long anymore, like Sinners. I remember I 877 00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.840 saw that, like felt like a few weeks after it 878 00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:57.960 came out in theaters. 879 00:37:57.639 --> 00:37:57.840 You know. 880 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.920 And it's and it's on age too, Sinners. 881 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:03.719 Yeah, I want to watch it. 882 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.960 Sinners is worth seeing. It's worth paying for if you 883 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.880 don't have HBO. It's it's quite good. 884 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:09.400 Yeah. 885 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.599 Speaking of go now for entertainment and musicals, I'm finally 886 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.000 going to see David Byrne for the. 887 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.039 First time ever. 888 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.719 Big Pants, No, I wish, I don't know. 889 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.239 It's Who Is the Sky Tour. So did you see 890 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.039 American Utopia? No, that's on HBO. 891 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:27.639 Do you like Talking Heads much? 892 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.119 I mean normal amounts and I like them. I think 893 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.920 they're good. I just yeah, American Utopia is really good. 894 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.719 It was on Broadway. It actually overlapped with me being 895 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.559 here back on the East Coast for like a year. 896 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.960 I just never went. But he's bringing some musicians back 897 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.880 from that for Who Is the sky. We're going to 898 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.880 see them him at a radio city. 899 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:47.440 I can't wait. 900 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.320 Nice, but yeah, you guys want to talk about video games? 901 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:58.360 Sure, okay, okay. 902 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.320 Yep, and Mike, I feel like you just betrayed everything 903 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.280 I know about you by saying you like musicals. 904 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.360 I don't like seek out musicals. I just really like Hamilton. 905 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:09.360 What other ones do I like? 906 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.079 I don't like Hamilton, but I'm not falling on that sword. 907 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:16.320 That's crazy saying that. 908 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.639 You don't like it? Why didn't you speak up? And 909 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:18.880 you just left Dan in the lord I'm connor out. 910 00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:22.440 When we come back, I bring it in, brig it in, Joe, 911 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:28.320 Jake Jake started thirty seconds ago. No Jake started when 912 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.719 when I told Mike, HEU trade me, don't let her 913 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.320 get out the That is coward ship. Mary, Yeah, what 914 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:35.920 that is coward ship? Say it with your full chest, 915 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.239 saying it to the microphone. 916 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:41.800 I agree, What the suck? You just sent Dan out 917 00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:44.559 of the door. Why you're sitting comfy in thet me 918 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:45.000 out here. 919 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:49.079 In the fucking desert. 920 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.400 It was just you're right, that's hilarious. You just let him. 921 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.440 Fucking Larry's sending you printing at the Germans while she 922 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.159 suit back in the trench, like, what the fuck? 923 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.400 Oh boy, you both betrayed me. 924 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.239 Yeah, delicious. 925 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.639 I felt like you were doing a good job. I 926 00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:12.360 didn't think there was. 927 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.880 Yeah, you didn't just leave him out, you like jumped 928 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:20.280 on him. 929 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:24.639 You're afraid of Hamilton fans? Mary there, do you know 930 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:26.599 what people were talking about? 931 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:28.519 They're intense people. 932 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:32.559 Yeah, have you seen me? Yeah? 933 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.960 Hamilton people are are really into Hamilton, and I don't 934 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.719 want that heat. So I was just gonna say, I 935 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.079 don't know if you've noticed, but I didn't support or 936 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:42.920 defend Hamilton. 937 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:44.920 I just said that's why I'm. 938 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.079 I'm glad the folks are hearing the truth though. 939 00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:52.000 All right, So the truth is this is not video 940 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.159 game talk that I think it's important. 941 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.480 I think Hamilton is fine. 942 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:01.239 I think it's fine. I don't understand why it's such 943 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:05.760 a big deal. And I was seeing these tickets that 944 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.679 were like five hundred dollars just to watch people rap 945 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:18.960 that I don't think is exceptionally good either. What I'll 946 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:23.280 say that, if anything, we're just we're all like pretty 947 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.880 not educated, probably enough to speak on this, maybe, Mike, 948 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.480 but like, why because you like musicals? 949 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.079 I like why I don't all of us. 950 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.000 I don't like musicals very much either, but I do 951 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:39.119 like some musicals. I have respect for the genre, unlike 952 00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.760 you and I. Just when I was watching it, there 953 00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:44.880 was a couple of the ones of the songs where 954 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:47.400 people were like doing them in karaoke, and I was like, 955 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:52.400 give me a break singing Hamilton at karaoke, Like there's 956 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.320 no other good song that you can sing at karaoke. 957 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.280 And that was the truth that I didn't say, which 958 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:04.679 is like, I I don't think the one shot song 959 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:05.119 is that good. 960 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:06.719 That's Eminem the mom spaghetti. 961 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.679 Wait what one shot song? Not giving it? 962 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:13.679 I lose yourself? 963 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:15.719 Shut up? 964 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:17.000 He's from Detroit, Mike. 965 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:23.039 I'm gonna get ting to come for meot That's not 966 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:23.639 my favorite song. 967 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.800 Dear at Theodosia when with Aaron Burr. First of all, 968 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:29.280 what's what's his fucking Who plays Aaron Burr? 969 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.079 Oh my god? He won the Tony for it. 970 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.239 You know it's people leslie R. 971 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.400 His his voice is like he the best singers I've 972 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:39.800 ever They're all very talented. 973 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.400 We're not questioning the talent of the backtrack. 974 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.599 Don't be pussy, no, no, no, no, At no point did 975 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:50.039 I say these people aren't in fact respect When I left, 976 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.400 that was what I did. 977 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.800 We're keeping what you said a bit. Everybody here is 978 00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:01.320 going to be unpopular when everyone we stand as a moron. 979 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.960 Mike is a dick, and I don't like Hamilton, but 980 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.400 everyone needs to know I'm out. 981 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.159 And proud about being a moron. Mary is trying to 982 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:08.480 hide it. 983 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:14.360 We need someone more educated than to come on and 984 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:15.360 talk about Hamilton. 985 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.119 I just won Manuel, and he's also a big wrestling 986 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.000 in my life. Watch Wrestling with Manuel Brandon. 987 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.159 I have a lot of respect for Lynn Manuel. I 988 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.719 literally listen to an interview with whatever correctly. I listened to. 989 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:31.199 An interview with him this morning. 990 00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:41.320 What Linman lynmn Rando Star Wars character scene. 991 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:43.760 Dan was like, not. 992 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.519 Everybody needs to like seing the things that are happening 993 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:51.079 in their life. There's this like scene of Hamilton where 994 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.320 he's like trying to leave and his wife is like 995 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.480 come back to bed, and he's like. 996 00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:57.880 No, I can't. 997 00:43:57.960 --> 00:43:58.760 I have to go out. 998 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.920 I'll be back before you wake up, and she's like, no, 999 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:03.920 come back to bed and he's like no, but I'll 1000 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.039 be back before you wake up. And I'm like, just 1001 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:06.960 say these things. 1002 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:08.639 I'm going to bed. 1003 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:12.000 Isn't he going off to war? In that scene to 1004 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:22.639 your brother? If there's one person. 1005 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:32.320 I'm coming to. 1006 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:32.840 And you're like, come back to. 1007 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.800 Bed, he did, like come by marines with me. 1008 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:49.880 If only we could play our marines without it. Imagine 1009 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.039 if fucking they made him a groomer musical, they could 1010 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:52.599 do the sex. 1011 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.400 The groom musical would be good. Absolutely, I'm going to. 1012 00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:01.920 Feel you up. Wow wow wow wow. 1013 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.800 There is one musical scene in it where he goes, 1014 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:06.840 are you gonna make your music? 1015 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.199 And she goes it can wait? 1016 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.079 Oh yeah, yeah, that's diagetic. It makes sense for Vicky. 1017 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.920 Yeah, that's a good one. 1018 00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.360 See, we still got it. And I like musicals. 1019 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:22.920 See I like that. 1020 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:23.559 Let's do. 1021 00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:26.039 Okay, let's do. We won't tell me when it's gonna be, 1022 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:28.440 but one episode of Fire Skive in the future will. 1023 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.320 Be the musical episode where we have to sing everything. 1024 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:33.199 Oh my god, that'd be so annoying. 1025 00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:35.480 It would be the worst podcast episode of all time. 1026 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.280 It would be funny, though, if we actually committed to 1027 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.679 it for two and a half hours. 1028 00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.119 So annoyed, I would be so annoyed. 1029 00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.199 That would be tiring ash. 1030 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.480 Yeah, it seems unnecessary to sing all of your thoughts. 1031 00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.480 Yeah, but again like they originally did that because they 1032 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.719 had to find ways to communicate inner thoughts. 1033 00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:58.960 They had like a background chorus, their mass. 1034 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.719 Their craft. You suck at writing music as far as 1035 00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.280 I'm aware, Are you to me? 1036 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:05.639 Or Dan? 1037 00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:06.000 Yeah? 1038 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:07.280 Dan? Yeah? 1039 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.719 I don't have a musical boat in my body? What 1040 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:12.119 are you like you? 1041 00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:13.440 We're going for the growing. 1042 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:17.000 Career. 1043 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.480 It's going to suck, not because musical suck, but because 1044 00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:25.679 we can't make good musical. 1045 00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:28.440 Good No, I would. 1046 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.760 I stand by my craft if I make wine it sucks, 1047 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.199 I'm not gonna say it sucks. No, I absolutely would. 1048 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:46.159 So we all beat Claibs. Yeah, have we decided whether 1049 00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:48.880 we want to talk? Yeah, so we're gonna are we 1050 00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:50.719 kind of spoiling did though? 1051 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:53.639 We're going to do. 1052 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:57.440 We're gonna do. We're going to do the end of 1053 00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.239 Clare Obscure. And so if you do not want to 1054 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:05.280 hear the end and spoilers of Claire Obscure, you should 1055 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.199 move forward in time. 1056 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.199 I think we're going to make a point untillake to time. 1057 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.920 We will put time so you don't don't get spoiled, 1058 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:15.360 and I'm giving you lots of heads. 1059 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:16.519 Up now if you're listening. 1060 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:18.599 It's in the episode description as well, because I know 1061 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:20.159 time SAMs are different on different platforms. 1062 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:21.800 But we've all finished it, we've. 1063 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:22.440 All got spoiler. 1064 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.079 We'll put spoiler time stamps in the episode description if 1065 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:26.960 you're listening to this and have not beat Claire obscure. 1066 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:28.679 Yeah, also came out in like April. What are you 1067 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:29.079 waiting for? 1068 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.360 Oh my god, I. 1069 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.559 Have it was pretty good? 1070 00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:35.079 Uh? 1071 00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.679 Yeah, no, Dan, you asked before we were recording. 1072 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.599 Once I started to potentially, I will say I said 1073 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.639 that when I saw where they were going with the ending, 1074 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.159 I stopped liking it as much. 1075 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.480 Yeah, so you told me because I was at a 1076 00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.480 certain point and you were like, oh yeah, where you were, Dan, 1077 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.599 I was probably like a nine, and then what happened 1078 00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:55.440 in the next two or three hours probably brought me 1079 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.079 down to like an eight. So I'm curious. 1080 00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.639 I was completely wrong with where they were going. 1081 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.760 Act where are you at when you went down just trying? 1082 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.079 It was basically when you start to see that like 1083 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.360 it's a family thing and you're in this created world 1084 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.320 by So I'm going to butcher details because've forgotten some 1085 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.320 of the names. But like, basically you find out that 1086 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.960 the Paris you start in was a creation. 1087 00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.599 Real world viller version. Lemier was a. 1088 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.000 Creation of the mother in the real world who is 1089 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.800 trying to keep who is broken from the death of 1090 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:32.400 her son son. 1091 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.639 And what I didn't realize is the like, is there 1092 00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:38.440 Loomier in the real world or does she live in 1093 00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:41.360 like actual Paris and Lumier is like this distortion of. 1094 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.000 It could be it could be like either way. It 1095 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:43.559 could be her. 1096 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.320 Because there was that like surreal Effle tower and stuff. 1097 00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:48.000 So I didn't know if it. 1098 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.039 Was like, so Paris is the city of Light, LEMI 1099 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.800 I believe means light or has something to with light. 1100 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:55.239 I don't know, I'll look that up. 1101 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.800 I think it's in another surreal world because they have 1102 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:01.039 all the powers and stuff like that. 1103 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:01.880 Oh yeah, that makes sense. 1104 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:06.159 Yeah, but there's obviously elements of Paris and real world 1105 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:10.360 places in there, so maybe maybe they visited, uh you know, 1106 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.800 Pattie before. But anyway, the point is is you're right, 1107 00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.239 it was the paintress was the mother. She is so 1108 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.880 upset about her son that she painted a world and 1109 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.000 essentially like put herself in it and kept everybody alive, 1110 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.440 but her power was waning. 1111 00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.320 Along with versions of her son and daughter in that world. 1112 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:33.599 Versus Verso andle well By myle that wasn't her name 1113 00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:35.119 in the real world, but yeah, and. 1114 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.840 All the dreams she was having were of her real self. 1115 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.599 Yes, facial she was burned. 1116 00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:43.079 Yeah. 1117 00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:47.239 They talked about how much the GOV looks like Robert Pattinson. 1118 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.800 The dad looks like Pierce. 1119 00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:51.400 Bros's very like modern day Piers bro. 1120 00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.519 How did they get away with that? That's a whole 1121 00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:57.079 other thing. I'm sure there's reddit threat some point. 1122 00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.960 When you're that hot and symmetrical. It could just be any. 1123 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.880 The dumbest joke that was a naked gun joke. Yeah, 1124 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:07.559 that was funny. 1125 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:10.639 I hate that. 1126 00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:16.920 Yeah, so I I really like basically it came down 1127 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:19.679 to the matrix. Are you going to take the red 1128 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:23.440 pillar the blue pill? Are you going to keep Lumier alive? 1129 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:27.800 And basically it comes down to whether you think that 1130 00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.480 that imagine it or like created world is as valuable 1131 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:33.199 as quote unquote the real world, and also like or 1132 00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:36.039 do you want to destroy it? And potentially so okay, 1133 00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:38.159 I should say the Dad is also trying to destroy 1134 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.239 it because he's basically worried about or he he just 1135 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.599 his wife is has gone insane and has made this world, 1136 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.800 so he wants to destroy it. I guess in the 1137 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:50.800 hopes that it will bring her back. 1138 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.400 He wants to pull them all out, and I think. 1139 00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.480 He thinks reality is more important than the escape in 1140 00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:56.880 the art. 1141 00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:58.880 I think he thinks that she, like the family, needs 1142 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.440 to get over it and move on basically, and he's 1143 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:04.639 trying to just kind of end this, you know. Uh, God, 1144 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.039 sorry for the term ca fabe, but this ca fabe 1145 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:08.559 world and kind of wants everyone to just kind of 1146 00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:09.800 like process everything. 1147 00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:12.719 And what did you guys choose? 1148 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:18.280 I chose Okay, so if I had understood everything correctly 1149 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.079 the first time, I probably would have chosen the one 1150 00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.280 where it's like go to the real world, uh and 1151 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:24.119 get rid. 1152 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.360 Of the explain it what you chose? 1153 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:30.519 I chose the one where my l stays in the 1154 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.840 fantasy world because I was under the impression that the 1155 00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.159 real world was like way more fucked up than it was. 1156 00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.920 I thought like the mom was just like dying. The 1157 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.400 house was burnt down for some reason. I thought it 1158 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:44.519 was like all is lost, And then when I saw 1159 00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.119 I watched the other ending and I was like, oh, 1160 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.599 I didn't realize they just like, yeah, they went through 1161 00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:51.119 some real shit, but it's mostly like emotional stuff and 1162 00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.000 some some scarring and stuff like that. But like I 1163 00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:54.880 think I thought it was like the fucking apocalypse in 1164 00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:56.480 the real world, and I was like, no, let her, 1165 00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:57.519 let her enjoy this. 1166 00:51:57.719 --> 00:51:59.159 What did you think about your ending? 1167 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.239 I thought it was interesting. I thought the way they 1168 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.199 brought Verso, I mean, I don't think it was a 1169 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.320 good ending in terms of like it wasn't good for 1170 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.599 myel I don't guess either of aod no, no, there's 1171 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.800 it's a bittersweet no matter how you take it. The 1172 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.360 idea of like Verso coming out and like being forced 1173 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.119 to kind of like haha, I'm playing this song and 1174 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:20.599 everything's fine, and like meanwhile, he's just kind of being 1175 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.119 forced to exist when he should not. Like, I think 1176 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:26.239 that's a really interesting idea. Like they're both very interesting, 1177 00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.199 Like what what what a good decision at the end, 1178 00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.239 because neither of them is black or white, good or 1179 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.440 bad or anything, and they both have like incredible implications. 1180 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:38.320 And yeah, it's actually asking you something larger than the game. 1181 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.239 It's like, do you think I chose to stay with Lemier. 1182 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.840 Yeah, yeah, you stayed in the fantasy. 1183 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.199 Yes, because in my mind it was like, well, whether 1184 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.880 these characters are quote unquote real or not, whether this 1185 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:56.199 is the truth in this context, they're the characters I've 1186 00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.920 gotten attached to by playing the game. So is it 1187 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.320 any less real than the real world they're talking about? 1188 00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:04.679 So I kept it alive? What did you do? 1189 00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:10.239 Mary? I? I chose the real world because Verso said 1190 00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:14.199 to me multiple times I don't want to be here, yeah, 1191 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:18.320 and I don't want to sing anymore and you're making 1192 00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.320 me and I don't want to live this life anymore. 1193 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.599 And I thought to myself, like I was always against 1194 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.599 my dad telling me what to do and felt really 1195 00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:28.719 strongly that like I wanted to support my al and 1196 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:33.360 what she wanted. It wasn't until Verso said that he 1197 00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:35.519 didn't want to be alive, which I think is a 1198 00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:36.840 very gutting realization. 1199 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:38.079 She doesn't want to be around anymore. 1200 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:41.599 He wants to die, he has asked to die. 1201 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.239 And I think, like this is the part that's very real, 1202 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:48.400 Like you're these are like really real world implications all 1203 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:51.440 of a sudden, where I'm like, I love my family. 1204 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.480 But if my family member was like I don't want 1205 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:57.960 to be here no more, I would support them even 1206 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.800 if it hurt me. And that's why I chose the 1207 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.320 real world, because I was like, I don't want to 1208 00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.519 make you sing for me if you don't want to 1209 00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.719 be around anymore, and I. 1210 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.159 And I chose it. It's also very solemn. 1211 00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:13.039 I mean, everyone's morning, there's a grave where your son is. 1212 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.480 You say goodbye to all of the characters I like 1213 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.840 got choked up saying goodbye to all the characters that 1214 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:25.440 I like. Well, I liked them all and I loved 1215 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.000 I just I felt so bad for the the Oh 1216 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.360 my gosh, I'm forgetting all their names. But the girl 1217 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:36.559 like Luna was so she was mad in the in 1218 00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.519 the scene when you if you choose reality, she doesn't 1219 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:42.719 say goodbye, like she doesn't like hug you or anything. 1220 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.119 She's mad because you chose to kill her. And so 1221 00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:52.639 by choosing Verso's ability to have his own death, I 1222 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.559 was inadvertently killing a lot of people that I loved, 1223 00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:59.119 and that was that was really hard for me to accept. 1224 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:03.239 But I I still believe that I am satisfied with 1225 00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:08.679 my ending because I felt generally speaking that I understood 1226 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.320 that they needed to heal and deal with the morning 1227 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:16.360 process and the grief and move forward as a family 1228 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:19.360 as opposed to being in the painting, even though I 1229 00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:20.880 prefer the joy. 1230 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:21.239 Of the painting. 1231 00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.159 Yeah, my initial thinking was that, like, oh, Mael obviously 1232 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:27.679 went through like unbelievable trauma, and you know, whatever respite 1233 00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.679 she can get from that through this fantasy world, this fiction, 1234 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.800 like you allow her to have this piece, And like, 1235 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.519 I think when I made that decision, I did not 1236 00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.800 consider the implications of like, oh, well, these are like 1237 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:43.639 sentient characters basically that exist in this fiction, and what 1238 00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:44.639 does that mean for them? 1239 00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:44.960 You know? 1240 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.480 And so it's like it was so interesting watching the 1241 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:49.440 other one and being like, oh fuck, I didn't think 1242 00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:52.320 about that aspect of this, you know, and it's God, 1243 00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.480 what a good ending, what a just tremendous game. 1244 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.880 And they say they're copies as well, So in this 1245 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.960 new world that Mayel has constructed, you're also again making copies. 1246 00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:07.599 It's not the same people that we were with during 1247 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.760 our journey. Obviously, it's like very similar, but it's not 1248 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:14.320 the exact same. They explained that early on, when that 1249 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.239 tiny dude that has like he looks like an upside 1250 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:20.039 down broom. He's got that hair. He dies and they're like, 1251 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.960 can we bring them back? And the guy goes yes, 1252 00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:27.320 and they go, I can, but only a version dog. 1253 00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:28.280 Yes. 1254 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.440 I mean is that not like it's like, oh, it's great, 1255 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:36.000 it looks like it has the same but like, there's 1256 00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.119 so many things that you can't like replicate. 1257 00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:40.599 Maybe I feel like we're talking about like humans. 1258 00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:43.000 It'd be like if you died and we cloned you 1259 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.920 and put you on this podcast, that. 1260 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.320 Would be fascinating. You should do that even if. 1261 00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.599 I don't die, Okay, I will Yeah for. 1262 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:55.800 A person to dance, Yeah, yeah, with one of you, 1263 00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:58.880 we each get twenty five percent. And it's the joint Yeah. 1264 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.000 No, because that girl that has two heads in one. 1265 00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.559 Body having a joint bank with your guy. 1266 00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:06.960 Yeah, now I'm getting half the podcast fuckers. 1267 00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:11.280 From fire Escape with the millions that we make every year. 1268 00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:15.079 The girl that has two heads in one body, she 1269 00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:17.039 only gets paid once by her job. 1270 00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:22.840 He's just immediately hypothetical scenario doesn't sound too bad now. 1271 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.840 It doesn't mean. 1272 00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:28.920 Yes, you bad before because I can't handle two annoying people. 1273 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:30.840 Podcast of All Time? 1274 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:33.519 Sign in next time. And there's gonna be six of 1275 00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:35.599 me and be like, I'm onto you now I. 1276 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.480 Get as long as there's more me than you. That 1277 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:39.840 meets like at the bigger cut fuckerd that'd. 1278 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.480 Be such like a stupid Tim Robinson sketch. There's someone 1279 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.239 cloning himself so he can make more money on in 1280 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:53.480 his revenue. Yeah, funny, what if you clone? Yeah, but 1281 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:55.119 you're assuming your clone would go along with it. What 1282 00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:56.920 if your clone decided to take all your money? 1283 00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:57.880 What's that clone going to do? 1284 00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.519 He'd be greedy, hear you. He would be thinking of 1285 00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:02.599 podcast that. 1286 00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.000 Oh my god, what if we clone ourselves and they 1287 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:08.920 started competing with us like a ba A Bizarrow fire 1288 00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:10.239 Escape of Evil. 1289 00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.000 Fire escape no copyright strike out of them. 1290 00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:17.519 Water copyright strike you because they're the same, I would. 1291 00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:20.199 Say, they're AI and so yeah. 1292 00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:20.079 Oh my god. 1293 00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:23.159 What if Dan got cloned and every single thing and 1294 00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:29.119 desire and need and detail was the same, except his 1295 00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:35.239 clone was super weirdly into musicals, like all he talked 1296 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:36.199 about was musicals. 1297 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:38.719 Well, then he can do his own podcasts over there, 1298 00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:39.079 and then we're not. 1299 00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:42.920 Comparat to Disney movies and he lost. 1300 00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.679 He's got the yearly thing to the Disney Club or whatever, 1301 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:46.679 and he's. 1302 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.519 More popular and beloved than you. 1303 00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:48.840 Dan. 1304 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:50.840 Good for him. I wish everyone's success. 1305 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:53.960 I wish everyone's success, But. 1306 00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:03.559 Yeah, Claips, you're probably my front runner for Game of 1307 00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:04.159 the Year right now. 1308 00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:06.039 I don't want to be up there. For me. 1309 00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:08.679 It is like there's there's a battle going on up 1310 00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:10.079 the top of my list right now, and. 1311 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.679 I, oh, there's a couple. There's a couple. But I 1312 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.760 do think it's very well executed. It did win me 1313 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.440 over in the end, I will say, like I also 1314 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:21.480 towards the end, because I'm just not a big JRPG person, 1315 00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:25.039 I was like, oh, there's a lot of hours, and 1316 00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:27.599 there were times where I was like getting there where 1317 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:28.559 I was ready. 1318 00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:29.920 But I kind of saw it as a breezy one 1319 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.559 in terms of like turnbased RBG. 1320 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.960 They can be like, can't those be like seventy eighty hours? 1321 00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:37.079 Yeah, Like, I mean that's more the norm than what 1322 00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:37.960 clear obscurity is. 1323 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:43.199 I think it's reasonable, but I I'm just being honest, 1324 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.199 Like usually when I play a game around the twenty 1325 00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:48.159 hour mark, I'm always like, what else is out there? 1326 00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:53.800 I would love if a turn based game got game 1327 00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:55.119 of the year for us. 1328 00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:55.960 Not lobbying. 1329 00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:59.679 I'm just saying you are what's big step for us. 1330 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.119 It will clearly be talked about a lot a game 1331 01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:02.519 of the year. 1332 01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:04.880 We have all agreed that as we're not going to 1333 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.440 grow and we are not going to be better people. 1334 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.599 So it was the seinfelding no hugging, no hugging, no learning, 1335 01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:11.440 no learning. 1336 01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:13.320 Yeah we learned, Yeah we. 1337 01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:18.599 Learned, no hug Yeah we've hugged, yeah wed Yeah yeah. 1338 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:20.599 I played Real World. Do you guys talk about last episode? 1339 01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:22.280 I won't drone on. I like it a lot. 1340 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:26.800 I also have started listening to much more music from Italians. 1341 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:27.360 Do it better? 1342 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:31.400 Oh I I I've found a June from the soundtrack 1343 01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:32.360 like her a lot. 1344 01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:38.199 Yes that is She's good too, But uh yeah, I 1345 01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:42.280 I like it quite a bit, very relaxing. Yes, I 1346 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.119 like the structure of it. I think it works as 1347 01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:47.880 an open world game. I will say it was weird 1348 01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:50.480 how I came across that. I came across that game because, 1349 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:55.880 uh is it Anna twenty four doesn't do video games 1350 01:00:55.920 --> 01:01:00.760 right and had like they had ads on Instagram like 1351 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:03.159 in my stories, like I hadn't heard of it through 1352 01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:06.280 the industry. I heard about it just surfing Instagram, which 1353 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:07.760 was funny. Like I was like, oh, this is how 1354 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.000 normal people come across video games sometimes. 1355 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:12.079 Yeah, I just thowt it like Steam next Fest, and 1356 01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.400 I immediately was like, oh shit, okay, it's like bike 1357 01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.320 biking arcade racing, almost like that Breath of the Wild type, 1358 01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.880 you know, obviously much more condensed than Scope, but like, yeah, 1359 01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:22.039 I loved it immediately. 1360 01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:23.000 It's really good looking. 1361 01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:26.239 I like the art style kind of reminds me of shit, 1362 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:29.639 what was that game two years ago that was also 1363 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:31.760 kind of like a zen Breath of the Wild in 1364 01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:35.159 the desert. Yes, it reminded me of Sable in the 1365 01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:35.960 vibes kind. 1366 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:39.760 Of sure, Yeah, I find this like easier to navigate 1367 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.880 than Sable or like most games of recent years were 1368 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.559 like this game had such a very simple presence. And 1369 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.559 I I played this because Dan you recommended it, and 1370 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:54.000 I also, uh, I got like a little bag with 1371 01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:56.400 some goodies from the company, so I was looking it up. 1372 01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.400 I know mess Hoff they do good stuff. Yeah, and 1373 01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:06.840 so I think, where are my goodies? Uh they send 1374 01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:07.519 us chocolates? 1375 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.559 Uh what the fuck? 1376 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:10.480 They were good? 1377 01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:12.119 What? What the cock? 1378 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:18.760 I like the sing it sing it yeah, where the 1379 01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:24.360 cock peenis? Where's my goodies? 1380 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:33.159 What the world to. 1381 01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:38.679 Wheel World two? It's not on a bike this time. 1382 01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:42.159 It's on a dial dough with wheels. 1383 01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:46.199 You can basically there's like a human bike. You can 1384 01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:48.599 exchange your bikes. So we don't have to explain the 1385 01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:50.239 game because you did it last time, Dan, But I 1386 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.199 was just gonna say I finished the game. I thought 1387 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:57.119 it was excellent, And the only complaint I really have 1388 01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.719 is that I think the second world, so when you 1389 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:01.320 do all the stuff, you're. 1390 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:03.719 In the stunning landscape. 1391 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:06.239 And it's so beautifun it looks like is. 1392 01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.119 That what when you talked to me, did you think 1393 01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:09.159 the game was done then? 1394 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:12.360 Because there's because it's like I knew it was going 1395 01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:13.760 to be like a condensed game. I know you can 1396 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:15.079 beat in a few hours and stuff. 1397 01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:17.880 You go to the moon, bud, you kick the moon. 1398 01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:20.960 Wait wait, wait, wait, I got to the corporate place. 1399 01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:25.239 Okay, is that the moon that you're talking credits? 1400 01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:30.960 No, I haven't eaten it yet. Oh okay, not. 1401 01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:33.920 Really a little bit. But like I think, literally in 1402 01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:37.000 the beginning of the game, the fucking skull is like 1403 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:38.920 you gotta go to the moon or so I think 1404 01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:43.079 there's like something alluding to it. But anyway, you kick, Yeah, 1405 01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:45.599 it doesn't matter. The point is is the first area 1406 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:48.440 is so beautiful, and I thought based on what you 1407 01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:50.800 said to me, which was this game is like seven 1408 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:52.719 and nine hours, and I was like, that's perfect, that's 1409 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.880 exactly what I'm looking for. I spent like seven to 1410 01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:00.199 nine hours getting through this first stunningly fall landscape, and 1411 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.440 then they were like, great, let's go, let's go to 1412 01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:04.800 the next area. Don't correct me. 1413 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:10.079 I was adding flavor. We're not correct, just adding my 1414 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.719 fucking crepuscular. 1415 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.519 What is the equal of autumnal sewage? 1416 01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:19.000 Uh? 1417 01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:24.920 Wait, what season is sewers? 1418 01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:26.280 Feces? Wait? 1419 01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:29.719 What what season is sewers? 1420 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:30.320 You heard me? 1421 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:31.920 What season is sewer? 1422 01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:39.039 Summer is probably the most Yeah, well, then. 1423 01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:42.760 Area two is summer because it fucking looks like ship 1424 01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:43.239 it is. 1425 01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:44.840 It's not beautiful. 1426 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:49.119 It's like it's like dirty and it's green and it's. 1427 01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.800 Dark and stuff swamps. 1428 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:54.400 And I don't understand what mess Off was thinking. I 1429 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.639 just have to say, for a game that's so peaceful 1430 01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:59.960 and so beautiful and so whimsical, the second area is plot. 1431 01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.639 It's not whimsical or beautiful to ride around, and it's 1432 01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:07.840 actually kind of garish, like the sound effects nice of 1433 01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:11.760 the machines smashing down on the ground to collect oil 1434 01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:13.960 or garbage or rats or whatever they're doing. 1435 01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:15.039 I just didn't understand. 1436 01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:17.400 I guess I do understand like what they're going for 1437 01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:19.280 narratively with that, Like it's not supposed to be it's 1438 01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.159 supposed to be this corporate healthscape thing, you know, with 1439 01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:23.679 that company, like ruining the land. But like, you know, 1440 01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.320 I get what they're trying to do, but for what 1441 01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:28.880 that first area sets up, it really does set up 1442 01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:31.519 this like fun, breezy biking game, and it's like, I 1443 01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.000 don't know if I needed the like narrative shift there, 1444 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:36.800 Like I could have just used, like, hey, add that 1445 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:40.599 you know, square mileage to to the cool first area. 1446 01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:40.880 You know. 1447 01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:42.920 I think that's part of why I didn't beat it, 1448 01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:45.280 Like I still likely will because I like the game 1449 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.679 a lot, but you know, it's like I got the 1450 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:49.559 second world, didn't love it. 1451 01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:51.199 It's not beautiful, Yeah it's not. 1452 01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:53.000 And then it's like other games came out and stuff, 1453 01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:54.760 and so it's like it's kind of dropped off the 1454 01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:56.400 priority thing for me a little bit. But I still 1455 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.400 do like the game a lot. I just wish it 1456 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.599 was like the First World but three times bigger instead 1457 01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:02.559 of you know, I. 1458 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:06.599 Agree, or maybe show that there's problems, but don't make 1459 01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:08.760 the game hideous, right like, I think you can show 1460 01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:12.679 that technology that is. The story is like corporations are 1461 01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:16.880 taking over and there's like robots and a I think 1462 01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:21.639 there's like a whole corporo conversation to be had about 1463 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.800 that game. But they also like made the second area 1464 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:30.719 not nearly as beautiful to play, and there's a third 1465 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.840 area just you know, I wonder where that is. 1466 01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.400 Yeah, wait, is that the moon? 1467 01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:39.320 It's not. That's the fourth here. 1468 01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:42.599 There's another spoiler. 1469 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.920 Great, should we timestamp this as well? People haven't. 1470 01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:49.360 They're going to come for me. 1471 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:52.079 There's a moon and wheel World. 1472 01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:54.559 I don't think it's I don't think that's too bad. 1473 01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:59.360 I don't come. I didn't care for Hamilton and there's 1474 01:06:59.400 --> 01:06:59.920 a moon and. 1475 01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.840 Wheel Wow, I'm off the hook. 1476 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.119 I didn't care for Hamilton and there's a moon and 1477 01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:06.679 wheel World. 1478 01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:10.880 Suck my dick. We need some new merch that just 1479 01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:11.320 says that. 1480 01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:23.960 A T shirt that says exactly that. 1481 01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:23.480 I'm actually gonna get that made. 1482 01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:27.079 Specific mouse pad. 1483 01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:29.760 It's not it's not hard. 1484 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.639 We have associated I don't need you don't need to 1485 01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.960 dare me. I've already committed to making it. Let me 1486 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:38.880 write that down. You guys keep talking. 1487 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:49.239 I care for is wheel World one word. 1488 01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:53.199 If any I don't think we can see who buys what. 1489 01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:55.960 If anyone buys this mouse pad, it will be the 1490 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:58.599 most unexplainable thing anyone has ever bought. 1491 01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.639 Imagine someone getting it's like a Father's Day gift, like 1492 01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:02.719 what the fuck. 1493 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:07.039 Mouse mouse pat or we get another like banana hamm 1494 01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:10.079 I can put this on that. 1495 01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:11.480 In like six months and now it's. 1496 01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:14.960 It would be above my penis if it was a 1497 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:16.720 banana hammick, and I said, sucked my dick. 1498 01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:17.880 Okay, sure my dick. 1499 01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:20.560 Sure you've seen how the sausages made here? 1500 01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:25.680 Yeah, my sausages. Okay. I liked it. 1501 01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:27.239 I think it's a good game. 1502 01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:30.319 I think it's worth playing. And that's like my only criticism. 1503 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:34.560 I love the evolution of it, upgrading my bike, I 1504 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.920 love racing people. It's a great game. Is really the 1505 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:38.520 t ld R. 1506 01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:40.920 I'll give it another criticism. I do think once you 1507 01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:43.079 get all the legendary parts on the bike, which you 1508 01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:45.680 get fairly early on. It is hard to want to 1509 01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.439 switch to other ones because they have freaking stashed and 1510 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.800 they let you just like gain boost passively and like 1511 01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:53.039 it stacks, so. 1512 01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:53.800 We have all of it. 1513 01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:55.760 You have to have, you have to once you have 1514 01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:58.800 the complete set, there's no reason to upgrade your bike. 1515 01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:00.399 I actually never upgraded my bike in a. 1516 01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:03.359 Second, lef, And I like you you in a game 1517 01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:05.199 like this, you want to be constantly leveling up and 1518 01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:07.119 getting better and stuff like that, and so all of 1519 01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:08.520 these let me boost, you know. 1520 01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.199 So that's fair. You should never have gotten that sick 1521 01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:12.479 bike until the second. 1522 01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:14.239 The end of the second, or make it a gradual thing, 1523 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:17.119 stretch out across all. I guess there's four zones. Thanks 1524 01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.920 for the spoiler, but yeah instead of just all in 1525 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:21.039 the front of which is the moon? 1526 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:25.640 Wow? Okay, what's the third one? Saturday? 1527 01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:25.760 Oh? 1528 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.399 Sorry that you guys like listen to a gaming podcast 1529 01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:30.279 and you heard about a game and what happens in 1530 01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:34.279 the game. Oh you guys better like go move ahead 1531 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:36.680 sixty more seconds because I'm gonna talk about a game soon. 1532 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:38.399 Do you want to spoil what the third area is? 1533 01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:39.520 Because I don't know either. 1534 01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:42.119 You guys, don't if you don't want to hear about 1535 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:46.880 Undermine two Peak, Time Flies, Heartworm, uh DK, Bonanza or 1536 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:49.880 Ninja Gaiden rage Bound, don't listen to this podcast because 1537 01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:50.720 we're gonna spoil all. 1538 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:53.119 Those No, we're not. We're of our audience. 1539 01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:56.640 You are not. I don't harbor any resentment toward our 1540 01:09:56.680 --> 01:09:57.359 audience at all. 1541 01:09:57.359 --> 01:10:01.560 No, I like, I don't harbor any resentment at all. 1542 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:06.439 But also by this dumb mouse pad funny, I was 1543 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:09.279 not here last time. Mary's already known she doesn't want 1544 01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:11.079 to talk about Donkey Kong more, but I have not 1545 01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:12.479 talked to anybody about it, and I hear. 1546 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:16.159 It's really I didn't say that, you sung, I said, 1547 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:18.840 we got a fight before this podcast started. 1548 01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:22.119 A fight and I said, I said. 1549 01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:24.880 I was ve because I'm having a migraine literally as 1550 01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.359 we're talking right now, and it's just my brain and 1551 01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:28.079 half you're dick. 1552 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:29.479 You're like, there's something wrong. 1553 01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:32.720 With every time I left my head is like lava 1554 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:33.760 Mary quip being funny. 1555 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:34.479 That's really rude. 1556 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.159 Yeah, I can't. I am. 1557 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:39.640 We're taking a lot of ship this episode. 1558 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:41.439 Yourself. 1559 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:42.399 I think I think you're the. 1560 01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:46.840 Fucking held onto the Epstein fight. I shouldn't joke about that. 1561 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:51.239 My goodness, that got that got that Jake for real? 1562 01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:52.239 For real. 1563 01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:53.680 I don't think you mean it for real. 1564 01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:57.760 I mean I actually the world to know who you 1565 01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:02.239 really are. 1566 01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:01.039 Turning against Mike. 1567 01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:09.840 I'm just taking the heat off. This is a disaster. 1568 01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:14.840 Is I've heard it's good. I haven't talked to anybody. 1569 01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:16.279 Yeah, kicks ass, it's awesome. 1570 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:18.079 It's like a donkey kicks ass. 1571 01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:18.560 Do you like? 1572 01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:18.800 Uh? 1573 01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:19.399 Do you like? 1574 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:19.640 Uh? 1575 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.199 Mario Ottissey, I think. 1576 01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:24.680 It's one of the best games the last ten years. 1577 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:26.680 Yeah, okay, well, you know it's the same team and everything, 1578 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.640 and it's like I will not put it on that 1579 01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:34.520 same level. It is not far though, I think, you know, 1580 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.079 Odyssey is probably like the best three D platformer of 1581 01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:40.600 all time I could see. I would say this is 1582 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:43.359 closer to like maybe one of the Galaxy games, which 1583 01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:46.079 is not something I would say lightly. You know, like 1584 01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.640 those are also among the greatest platformers of all time, 1585 01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:51.920 and the gimmick it's got is really good. Like I 1586 01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:53.560 don't know if you've played any of it at all 1587 01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:55.279 or seen much of it, but the idea of just 1588 01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:57.239 I don't have a switch to oh God, just being 1589 01:11:57.279 --> 01:11:59.720 able to burst through fucking anything in the environment for 1590 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.760 the most part, I mean the small exceptions, but like 1591 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:04.880 it's very satisfying. It's just having like a Donkey Kong 1592 01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:07.159 with a skill tree. And the fact that they took 1593 01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:10.359 this like one of the like Mount Rushmore biggest like 1594 01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:14.840 you know, names and franchises in games history and and 1595 01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:18.079 and made it modern, made it feel new in a 1596 01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:20.359 very real way and didn't just lean on nostalgia or 1597 01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:23.399 anything like it does the right amount of like, hey, 1598 01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.960 here's the thing you recognize, or here's a song that 1599 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.399 we made a new version of, or here's these characters 1600 01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.119 from the DKC series or whatever. Like it picks its 1601 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:33.720 spots very well, but it very much feels like a 1602 01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:37.520 new experience and it's it's really great throughout. And a 1603 01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:39.680 lot of people said this, and I didn't understand until 1604 01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:41.439 I got there myself while I was in New York. 1605 01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:45.960 But like it the last few hours really hammered home. 1606 01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:48.640 Like you know, I was loving it before that, and 1607 01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:50.720 when I talked about this last episode, I had not 1608 01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:53.359 seen the last few hours. And it's like it does 1609 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:57.199 some really smart things gameplay wise, nos soldier wise, all 1610 01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:00.920 that that really like. This is a spec game for sure, 1611 01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:03.319 and I really like to play it the time too. 1612 01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.399 Fun factor is about the shortest I've ever seen. You're 1613 01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:08.560 having fun instantly when you start the game. 1614 01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:09.399 So super dewey. 1615 01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:14.640 Oh, among the deweiest games ever. Yeah. 1616 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:17.600 Yeah, it's it's only on switch to though correct. 1617 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:23.039 Yes, yeah, I got to get one eventually anyway. 1618 01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:22.840 And it's not going to go down in price if 1619 01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:23.920 anything will go up. 1620 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.560 No, yeah, well cool. 1621 01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:28.840 Yeah, that's high on my list and I need to 1622 01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:30.680 have played that before a Game of the year because 1623 01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:31.479 I feel like it'll come up. 1624 01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:33.640 It will be high on mine for sure. It is 1625 01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.840 one of those that is jockeying for that top position. 1626 01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:40.199 Mary, what else have you been playing? Time Flies a couple. 1627 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.239 I loved this game and I'm really excited to talk 1628 01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:48.960 to you guys about it. This is a really short, sweet, 1629 01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:52.840 indie ass indie game called time Flies. The premise is 1630 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.840 you are a fly and you have a bucket list 1631 01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:57.399 of things you would like to do before you die, 1632 01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:01.159 and the catches is that because you're a your life 1633 01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:02.880 expectancy is seventy two seconds. 1634 01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:07.920 Oh oh. The art style art style. 1635 01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:14.680 Drawing extremely simple, so think like uh yeah, like pretty 1636 01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:17.560 much like black and white or like really simple visuals. 1637 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:20.680 Right eight bit you're a dot. 1638 01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:24.279 But here this is important to recognize people who are like, oh, 1639 01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:26.880 it's like too simple. You might be spoiling it, so 1640 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:29.760 be careful looking because like, this game is explorative. The 1641 01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.039 whole joy of this is how explorative it is. I'll 1642 01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:36.079 give you an example in the very beginning of this game. 1643 01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:38.319 I in like the first thirty seconds, this won't spoil 1644 01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:42.199 too much. You will get up from your couch and 1645 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.000 you will fly, and you will go past a guitar 1646 01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.960 and if you land on the strings, the guitar will 1647 01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:52.079 let you play it, and then on your bucket list 1648 01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:54.960 you will cross off learn how to play music, and 1649 01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:58.359 that is like the crux of this game. However, so 1650 01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:01.760 much through this game you will land on a fly 1651 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:04.039 trap and it'll eat you, or you will land on 1652 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.520 a faucet and you will die, and the game will 1653 01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:09.920 just say you died, very reminiscent of like you know, 1654 01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:16.399 any modern game died, and you start over. You play 1655 01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:19.880 again from the same spot, and you just try new 1656 01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:22.359 things until you get more things off your bucket list, 1657 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.239 and to complete the level, you have to do all 1658 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:28.880 the things in your bucket list in the same life, 1659 01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.359 So not only have you have to uncover the puzzle, 1660 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:34.319 but then you have to do a time puzzle where 1661 01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:34.720 you're like. 1662 01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.199 I want to do the guitar first, then I want 1663 01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:38.000 to do the hair. 1664 01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:40.920 Then I want to find this, then I want to 1665 01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.359 do the marble, then I got to do the globe, 1666 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:45.399 and you kind of like map it out in. 1667 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.199 Your head, so questioning can you does it show these 1668 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:52.720 bucket list items before you or is it like, oh, 1669 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:55.279 it's it's invisible and then you play the guitar and 1670 01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:57.479 then it fills in. Like learn to play music. 1671 01:15:57.840 --> 01:15:59.880 There is a piece of paper that you can check 1672 01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:02.640 throughout the game so that you can always see what 1673 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:06.159 they are. But some of them are puns and some 1674 01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:09.359 of them are play on word intentionally, so you might 1675 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:11.520 not realize what you're doing. 1676 01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:14.680 Music doesn't necessarily say play a string on the guitar. 1677 01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:18.079 It's just totally okay, I see, And uh. 1678 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:22.439 It's so hard to not spoil these because they're. 1679 01:16:22.279 --> 01:16:24.479 Really well, I think I'll play this, like I like 1680 01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:28.239 the what you're describing sounds Funwitch's a. 1681 01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:32.439 Video on the one of the videos on the games 1682 01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:34.000 Steam page. 1683 01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:35.319 Are you gonna spoil the box? 1684 01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:38.079 No, it's just is the game also really funny at 1685 01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:40.920 some points. It is very funny and there's a thing 1686 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:42.079 like making me laugh that I'm with. 1687 01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:46.239 It's a bit cheeky. I don't think it's like to 1688 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:50.800 adult or anything, but it has some slight nudity, but 1689 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.640 not a lot. But like there's some butts and stuff, 1690 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:56.479 and I think they like play with the human form. 1691 01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:58.319 There's some fart jokes in it that I think you 1692 01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:03.439 guys will think are very funny. There's also puzzles throughout it, 1693 01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:05.800 so sometimes you'll just go into an area you'll be like, 1694 01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:08.119 what is this all about? And you'll get a puzzle 1695 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:10.760 piece and you have to get all of the puzzle 1696 01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:14.039 pieces to construct the puzzle, which I think is cute. Also, 1697 01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:16.439 there's four different worlds, which I also don't think is 1698 01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:19.399 a spoiler, so like Moon last the moon is the 1699 01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:22.840 last one. Okay, if you do all of the little things, 1700 01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:25.000 then you actually get to the credits. And I did 1701 01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:27.880 all of it within two hours, guys, and I loved it. 1702 01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:29.600 I loved every minute of it. I thought it was 1703 01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.560 like the best Sunday afternoon game I've played in a 1704 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:34.159 Dog's Age. I just adored it. 1705 01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:36.720 Did you ever play Minute? Yes? 1706 01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:39.000 Okay, is it anything like that where it's like, I 1707 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:41.000 do remember that being a similar thing where it's like, okay, 1708 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:42.159 I got to do a bunch of shit in like 1709 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:44.520 one run basically, and that kind of also had that 1710 01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:47.079 very low fi, you know, art style it did. 1711 01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:49.840 I think sometimes for me Minute was more like how 1712 01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:52.439 do I navigate doing all this in the same life, 1713 01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:58.159 whereas I feel like Time Flies is more whimsical and experimental. 1714 01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:01.760 I found myself playing in this game a lot. I 1715 01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:04.680 was doing things just to see if I could. And 1716 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:07.199 this game toys with you a lot. They'll be like 1717 01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:09.640 things will be like, oh, this has got to be something, 1718 01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:11.399 and then it'll kill you, you know what I mean, 1719 01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:13.159 And you won't get mad because like you just pop 1720 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:16.079 back up like it's not a big deal. The last 1721 01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:18.079 thing that I found was interesting And I don't know 1722 01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:19.760 what this game is really trying to say with this, 1723 01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:24.399 but I should mention your life expectancy changes based on 1724 01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:27.760 the country that you choose to play from, and the 1725 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:33.279 country is the average year expectancy of actual humans, but 1726 01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:37.680 they put it into seconds. Yes, so if you want 1727 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:39.760 to play a little longer. You would be like, I'm 1728 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:42.199 from Japan, and if you want to play a little shorter, 1729 01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:45.760 you would pick like a country where the life expension. 1730 01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:48.079 Is really short. 1731 01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.600 I don't know why they did that, but there's like 1732 01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:56.239 there's like facts in it for like a month probably, 1733 01:18:56.319 --> 01:19:00.159 But in this game, I swear like the longest the 1734 01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:02.399 longest you can live is like I swear is like 1735 01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:04.800 picking Sweden and it's like seventy six seconds or something 1736 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:07.479 like that. I ended up googling, where's what's the longest 1737 01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:10.800 life expectancy? I forget that. 1738 01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:12.640 Yeah, I'm curious. 1739 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:16.800 I think it's somewhere in Norway, and and I picked 1740 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:18.920 that just so I could have the longest life expectancy. 1741 01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:21.600 There's also differences in the game depending on the country 1742 01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:25.039 you pick. I found this interesting. In one of the worlds, 1743 01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:27.600 you're like in an art exhibit, and depending on what 1744 01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:30.880 you pick, uh, the art will change. And so in 1745 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:32.880 one of them, I picked that I was from Korea, 1746 01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:36.479 and the art said, you don't want to see this art, 1747 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:38.680 so we're not going to show it to you because 1748 01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:44.439 it's like propaganda. Oh interesting, Yeah, I thought that was 1749 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:45.000 really long. 1750 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:46.159 Is the highest? 1751 01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:47.720 That's not what I got. 1752 01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:52.000 States, and Mary, I got bad news for you. You're 1753 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:53.000 not gonna last as long as me. 1754 01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:53.319 You're Mike. 1755 01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:59.000 Oh no, New York is number three, Minnesota is number four, 1756 01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:00.520 in Organ's number twelve. 1757 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:03.560 Okay, there's got to be why. Why is New York. 1758 01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:06.079 State? 1759 01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:06.760 It's a big state. 1760 01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:10.680 Yeah, because countries, not states. Monaco is the highest with 1761 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.720 eighty seven years. Other high life expectancies are Hong Hong 1762 01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:19.239 Kong and Japan. Yeah yeah, and ours is not very 1763 01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:21.039 super high. 1764 01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:24.880 I'll go to Monico. Okay, I'll go to Hong Kong. Mary, 1765 01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:26.359 you're going to Japan. 1766 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:28.359 Japan. I want to go to Japan now. I love 1767 01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:31.640 Oh there, I like Japan. 1768 01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:37.199 All nice places sound good. Yeah, Hey, this game sounds cool. 1769 01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:40.520 It sounds almost like a twenty twenty one era time 1770 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:43.960 loop game like Forbidden City had similar figuring out the 1771 01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:45.359 order to do things in and then. 1772 01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:48.039 And the puzzles are are sweet and cute and they're 1773 01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:49.159 not too complicated. 1774 01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:50.760 I I can. 1775 01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:53.800 Sometimes get frustrated with like complicated puzzly games if they're 1776 01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:56.279 racking my brain too much. Every one of these I 1777 01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:58.840 was like, oh, I get what you're doing. Like I 1778 01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.720 figured everything out within a couple hours. It's so sweet 1779 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.439 and short. I just think it's adorable and I was 1780 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:08.279 really excited about it, so yeah, that wash time flies. 1781 01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:12.359 Check it outes have you been playing? 1782 01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:18.760 Yeah, give it to baby girl? What else you got 1783 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:19.760 playing on? 1784 01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:24.560 I have a couple of other short ones. 1785 01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:26.560 I'm not gonna talk about this again. 1786 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.199 I already talked about Peak. I played Peak more. 1787 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:28.840 It's awesome good. 1788 01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:31.560 They added the ability to eat people. 1789 01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:36.399 Yeah. 1790 01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:39.840 Yeah, there's a cannibalism ad, which is so fucking funny 1791 01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:42.079 because now even like you can basically like kill people 1792 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:44.720 intentionally so you can eat them, which I love. I 1793 01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:48.239 played Undermine too. I think, Dan, did you recommend this 1794 01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:49.000 to me as well? 1795 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:52.199 I think give you a code or something like that. 1796 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:54.079 I played Undermine too. 1797 01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:58.359 This is I never played Undermine, so unfortunately, I'm like, 1798 01:21:58.439 --> 01:21:59.920 not the perfect person to give. 1799 01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:00.960 But it is. 1800 01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:06.439 A rogue light where you like die. Once you die, 1801 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.399 you have to start all the way from the beginning, 1802 01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:14.079 and you I haven't gotten too far in it. I 1803 01:22:14.119 --> 01:22:16.079 think I have only gotten to the second area. It's 1804 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:18.479 freaking hard, which is one of my issues with it. 1805 01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:23.319 But I do like the idea that you essentially kill stuff. 1806 01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:26.119 There's lots of secrets in each area so that you 1807 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:29.960 can build your persona and you pray to gods that 1808 01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:33.079 you can add different traits to yourself, like longer life, 1809 01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:36.479 or maybe like you hit stronger, or you have more magic. 1810 01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:39.640 And you come across different deities and you have to 1811 01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:42.840 pick one of two special items that you get, which 1812 01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:46.520 are randomized. Sometimes it's things like more luck, Sometimes it's 1813 01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:50.279 things like pierce. Sometimes I don't know. Sometimes it's bad 1814 01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:52.680 and like really not helpful at all, and I found 1815 01:22:52.720 --> 01:22:56.199 that really strange. But anyway, I'm still kind of getting 1816 01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:57.560 through it a little bit. I think I need more 1817 01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:00.319 time with it. I've probably only put like seven hours. 1818 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.600 Into it, but I. 1819 01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:04.720 Think it has potential. I like the fact that you're 1820 01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:08.439 like in all these areas. You also once you kill 1821 01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:10.279 every you cannot leave the room. Once you kill everything 1822 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:13.880 that's important, and then once you do that, you can 1823 01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.000 explore the room to mine it for gold, look for 1824 01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:20.840 secrets in the walls. And there's always a boss fight 1825 01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:24.199 I think at like the end of three rounds, and 1826 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:27.119 the boss fights are pretty intense. There's a moth boss 1827 01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:29.720 for the first boss. It doesn't change out though it's 1828 01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:31.960 the same boss each time. So it's a bit repetitive. 1829 01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:38.000 Is this early access? I feel like, shit, it was, yeah, yeah, okay. 1830 01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:40.399 We usually don't review games that are early access. I 1831 01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:42.760 think I only did this because you sent it to me. 1832 01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:45.600 It feels early access now that you say that, I. 1833 01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:47.880 Actually it is. I'm looking at now, yeah. 1834 01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:49.760 Because I think that in a game like this, because 1835 01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:52.680 it's so repetitive Robe Light, you really have to exchange 1836 01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:55.479 different bosses. That way, you're not playing the same boss 1837 01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:56.800 fight over and over and over again. 1838 01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:00.520 I bet you even games that I'm in sitting because 1839 01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:02.039 I played a bit of Undermine one and liked it, 1840 01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:05.359 but I typically don't play them in early access. I 1841 01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:06.840 didn't do Hades To do Hades to. 1842 01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:08.640 Really, I didn't do either. 1843 01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:10.720 Rogue Legacy was when I tried, because I love the 1844 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:13.800 first Rogue Legacy so much, and two was just like, Okay, 1845 01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:15.840 this is cool, and once I start getting into it, 1846 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.079 it's like, oh, hey, keep an eye on our roadmap. 1847 01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:20.439 We'll do more. And I really don't like that feeling 1848 01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:22.399 at all. So it's like, I feel like, if I 1849 01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:24.199 have any interest in the game, I always just kind 1850 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.520 of wait till the one point zero, and I wonder 1851 01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:27.760 if it's a similar situation. 1852 01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:31.279 Play Rogue Legacy two again episodes ago. 1853 01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:34.159 We did talk about it a few episodes. 1854 01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:38.960 Yeah, yeah, No, we've we've definitely talked about early access games, 1855 01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.680 but maybe not like in development early access it's just 1856 01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:42.319 not something. 1857 01:24:42.119 --> 01:24:43.359 We usually make a habit out of. 1858 01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:46.960 And I think like Haites two is a really good 1859 01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:49.039 example of that, because everyone was talking about it and 1860 01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:50.640 we were like, you know, I'd just rather wait until 1861 01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:51.119 it comes out? 1862 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:52.640 Yeah, does I have a release date? 1863 01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:53.560 Is it? 1864 01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:56.000 This is not this year? Is it is that this year? 1865 01:24:56.199 --> 01:24:56.399 May? 1866 01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:58.079 No? Okay, like that. 1867 01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:00.199 Was like even last year, like John Bombs Game of 1868 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:02.560 the Year. People were raving about it and it sounded awesome. Honestly, 1869 01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:04.439 everything people were saying like made me really want to 1870 01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:06.960 play it. But it's like I will be thankful that, 1871 01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:09.359 Like I'm never hurting for things to play, I will 1872 01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:10.720 be thankful that I wait until it's done. 1873 01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:17.000 When does Hades to one Point oh come out? 1874 01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:17.520 Release? 1875 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:18.039 Uh? 1876 01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:21.159 September? Okay? No? 1877 01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:22.359 Wait, no, there's no way. 1878 01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:26.359 It's not PC games end who I don't trust ever? Sorry? 1879 01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:31.239 That is it's early twenty twenty six or end of 1880 01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:31.680 this year. 1881 01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:35.000 Well, I feel like we'd probably hear something this. 1882 01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:39.640 Year two months ago just subreddit. There's the last major update. 1883 01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:47.000 It was out, so it's close, I guess, and I 1884 01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:48.039 guess you could play it now. 1885 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:49.319 I'll play it soon. 1886 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:54.720 Yeah, but I still have not played Peak. 1887 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:56.359 It's awesome. 1888 01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:56.760 It's great. 1889 01:25:56.800 --> 01:25:58.279 It's just it's one of those games. It's like a 1890 01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:00.640 million different games that it's just like, boy, it would 1891 01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:02.199 be awesome to get a bunch of people together and 1892 01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:03.920 play this. But like Mary, I think you're good at this. 1893 01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:06.520 Like you, you tend to get groups together and play 1894 01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:08.600 and play things frequently, and I do like. 1895 01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:09.640 To poke friends with it. 1896 01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:09.880 I am. 1897 01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:12.479 We actually been calling it friends slop. I don't know 1898 01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:15.319 if anyone like I've seen people say about that genre before, 1899 01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:18.039 but friendslop is like the idea that like, maybe on 1900 01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:20.560 your own it probably wouldn't be that amazing, but you 1901 01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:24.239 get four people together and fuck around all night and 1902 01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:26.880 it doesn't it doesn't matter if you do good. 1903 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:29.319 It's like irrelevant if you win. 1904 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:31.920 The point is is that you're fucking around with your 1905 01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.239 friends and like drinking and having a good time together. 1906 01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:36.760 It's just something to domp. 1907 01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:38.840 So rare that I'm able to do that, like usually 1908 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.039 it's with like Giant Bomb, Like, Hey, during the day, 1909 01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:42.159 this is what we do. So it's like you know, 1910 01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:47.039 repo things like that. Yeah, but yeah, it's just like 1911 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:49.199 at night. I just it seems like it be hard, 1912 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:53.159 Like I just never play multiplayer games, you know, like 1913 01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:54.920 it seems like it be a hard thing to put together. 1914 01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:57.359 You know, I think we're very busy. A lot of 1915 01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:00.600 we're busy. If a work, It's just like, I don't 1916 01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:02.439 they would be hard to get a group together where 1917 01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:05.680 everybody could do it, you know. Yeah, they're fun. I 1918 01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:06.279 love that stuff. 1919 01:27:07.199 --> 01:27:08.840 Are there any other games? 1920 01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:14.359 Yeah, there's people. Uh, Dan you were, Oh yeah, don't worry, 1921 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:18.439 I'm I'm the host now, Dan, Ninja Gayden, Yeah. 1922 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:22.600 Ninja Kaid. Rage Bound is really cool. It's yeah, Mike, 1923 01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:23.000 you're back. 1924 01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:28.640 You're back in distract them. Yeah. 1925 01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:30.600 I'm a fan of the old NES series and I'm 1926 01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:32.640 a fan of the Three d Ones. And this is 1927 01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:35.359 definitely obviously hearkening back to more like it's weird, it's 1928 01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:37.439 tarketing back to Dannys and that it's a side scrolling 1929 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:39.399 action game, but the look of it is way more. 1930 01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:42.359 It kind of looks like a pixel art Saturn two 1931 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:45.880 D game, it's incredible pixel art. It's the people that 1932 01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:49.640 made Blasphemous. So, like I thought Blasphemous was a cool game. 1933 01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:52.399 I loved the art and everything, but I just like, 1934 01:27:53.079 --> 01:27:55.600 I don't know, the from Style thing isn't always my 1935 01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:58.239 favorite deal and that was kind of that like From Style, 1936 01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:00.159 but in two D this is just kind of a 1937 01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:02.920 throwback and it's more like a Messenger type you know 1938 01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:04.399 in Ninja side. 1939 01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:07.359 Scrolling the Messenger. Is it actually like the Messenger? 1940 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:07.680 Yeah? 1941 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:09.520 Really, Like I don't think you need to have any 1942 01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:12.520 nostalgia for Ninja guid In at all to like it 1943 01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:14.960 because it's like the stuff it does is like you know, 1944 01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:16.560 in the Messenger you could do that kind of like 1945 01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.640 Perry jump off of like almost that cup Heead style like. 1946 01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:21.920 Jumps in hed The Messenger was the time Ship. 1947 01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:25.399 Well the big shift, like the big twist thing like 1948 01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:32.960 this does not do that. But again, wow, you want to. 1949 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:35.319 Talk about it Shindler's list. While you're at it, you 1950 01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:37.000 talk about who Darth Vader is. 1951 01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:43.560 No, it's it is fairly straightforward. It is like tough 1952 01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:47.600 platforming action ninja stuff and then really tough cool boss fights. 1953 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:49.960 It's very much the like get your ass kick the 1954 01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:51.800 first time, learn a little bit more of the second time, 1955 01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:53.239 come back and be to the third or fourth time. 1956 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:57.239 On the Bosses, you are like the ninja guy Kinji 1957 01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:00.479 in body, but there's also the spirit of this Komori, 1958 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:02.439 this like ninja girl that like they have different abilities 1959 01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:05.279 and their parts were like you're utilizing both. It's like, 1960 01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:07.479 you know it's a ha and a ka if you've 1961 01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:10.880 played des Stranding, but it plays off that stuff really cool. 1962 01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.319 Cause also like Egyptian philosophy. 1963 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:18.479 I think it's Kajima, but yeah, it's uh he's just 1964 01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.079 co opting these ancient beliefs. 1965 01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:20.960 That's so funny. 1966 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:21.800 Uh. 1967 01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:23.880 But no, Mary, I think if you like The Messenger, 1968 01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:26.520 I think you you could definitely find some stuff to like. 1969 01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:27.079 Harry. It is. 1970 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.720 The difficulty is just perfectly balanced. I think where it's 1971 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:32.840 just hard enough to where I'm kind of struggling, but 1972 01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:36.199 when you win, it feels like you won something. It's 1973 01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:39.199 just a beautiful game. Great soundtrack does Ninja Guide and Proud, 1974 01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:42.239 it's a good Ninja Guiden near you know, as someone 1975 01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:45.600 who likes that series. Getting new TD one, new two 1976 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.199 D one here, getting a new three D one with 1977 01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:50.560 with four coming out, and I got a Ninja Gaiden 1978 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.119 two Black remake of so like man for a series 1979 01:29:53.159 --> 01:29:55.319 that has kind of come and gone at weird intervals, 1980 01:29:55.640 --> 01:29:57.439 it's this is a big year of Ninja Guidance, so 1981 01:29:57.479 --> 01:29:58.159 I'm a fan. 1982 01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:01.359 Okay, that's cool. 1983 01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:03.960 I really did love The Messenger, but I never played 1984 01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:06.680 Ninja Guiden, so like, it's not it's not for me. 1985 01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:08.479 For like the nostalgia, it would have to be like 1986 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:11.319 a good game on its own, independent of all that 1987 01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:14.359 cool background stuff, child stuff. 1988 01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:16.239 And again, if they didn't even have Ninja Guiden in 1989 01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:18.159 the title, I would feel the exact same way about it, 1990 01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:20.159 because again, it doesn't even really look like the old 1991 01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:22.920 NAS games or play that much like them, So it's 1992 01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:24.119 kind of not nostalgia at all. 1993 01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:24.359 For me. 1994 01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:26.319 It's just like, oh, here's like a new, good two 1995 01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:28.039 D Ninja game. I think you would like it a lot. 1996 01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:32.359 Okay, the last one for me, I'm gonna say briefly 1997 01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:37.600 because I've only played five hours, so I'm still too 1998 01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:40.920 early to like really say if this is good. But Mike, 1999 01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:46.359 mikey uh. There is a new nineties survival horror called Heartworm. 2000 01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:51.800 It is very much in the vein of Resident Evil one. 2001 01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:55.800 What I think is cool so far about it is 2002 01:30:55.960 --> 01:31:00.560 it lets you play uh with tank control or not 2003 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:06.279 an atlants, you play like with like really old PS 2004 01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.439 one graphics or PS two graphics, Like you can kind 2005 01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:12.600 of choose how old school you want this experience to be. 2006 01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:16.560 Oh wow, Like the pause menu is Reson Evil one. 2007 01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:19.960 It is it is literally Resident Evil of like your 2008 01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:21.039 Health the health. 2009 01:31:21.079 --> 01:31:23.239 The health descriptions also are the same. Fine. 2010 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.359 I think you can have six items and it's brutal 2011 01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.119 because like so many times I was like I desperately 2012 01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:33.199 need this item, and I I didn't have any space. 2013 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:35.359 You have to like throw away items or like get 2014 01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:37.079 you have to get to a trunk to put your 2015 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:39.560 items away, and they're only you can only. 2016 01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:41.159 Save in the save spaces. 2017 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:44.840 So very similar puzzles akin to Resident Evil there was 2018 01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:47.600 like this one or or Silent Health, And I also 2019 01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:49.800 think it has a lot of Silent Hills story to it, 2020 01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:53.319 where she's just like I've always thought about death. 2021 01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:56.600 She sounds like that girl from Edward Scissorhands. 2022 01:31:57.520 --> 01:32:02.680 I've always been strange and un usual, and I always 2023 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:04.560 thought about dying. And so I'm going to go to 2024 01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.960 this place and find out what death is really like. 2025 01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:12.199 And so she's essentially deciding to go into this other 2026 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:17.279 universe intentionally because she wants to know what I don't 2027 01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:20.239 know what's on the other side of life. And so 2028 01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:24.359 you're in an underworld, which I think is more akin 2029 01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:28.439 to Silent Hill, you know, like a like a dark world, 2030 01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:33.319 and it has memories of her from her childhood and 2031 01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:36.680 her life, but they're distorted and fucked up, and there's monsters. 2032 01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:43.399 Now, Okay, it combines fixed camera with over the shoulder 2033 01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:44.399 I'm reading in the description. 2034 01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:45.159 How does that work. 2035 01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:52.239 I think that it's mostly those styled camera shots that 2036 01:32:52.439 --> 01:32:56.720 are still that make it look cinematic, which I like 2037 01:32:56.840 --> 01:32:58.239 and I've always thought we're really cool. 2038 01:32:58.880 --> 01:32:58.960 No. 2039 01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:02.199 Yeah, the description on Steam says it combines over the 2040 01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:03.039 shoulder and fixed camera. 2041 01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:03.960 I'm curious, like when it. 2042 01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:07.239 Goes all fix Campbell. I. I don't really remember over 2043 01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:10.359 the shoulder yet, but I will say there was this 2044 01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:13.720 one time where I go into an alleyway and the 2045 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:17.840 camera moves from like a bird's eye view as I'm 2046 01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:21.279 running to like get closer to me, which I thought 2047 01:33:21.319 --> 01:33:24.000 was really cool and cinematics, so it like moves around 2048 01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:26.359 based on like what works for me, But most of 2049 01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:29.279 the time I think it's still okay. 2050 01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:33.319 Yeah, another like remember Signalis several. 2051 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:39.439 Years Okay, this is my caveat. This is my caveat. 2052 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:42.359 I don't think it's as well put together as Signalis. 2053 01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:45.560 I don't And I played Signalis and I loved it. 2054 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:48.159 I think this game is cool. I just don't think 2055 01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:50.800 it's as scary. I don't think it has as many 2056 01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:55.199 components as Signalis. But I still think it's interesting and 2057 01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:57.520 and I like that they're they're trying to make like 2058 01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:59.720 a nineties horror, So if you're into nineties horr, I 2059 01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:01.199 think this could be worth checking out. But I think 2060 01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:03.920 Signalis is like set a real high bar. I have 2061 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:04.600 to admit that. 2062 01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:08.880 Okay, cool. Any other games. 2063 01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:12.279 I'm at a game I will talk next one about 2064 01:34:12.279 --> 01:34:13.880 the one? Well, I can say it is Meddle, your 2065 01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:16.920 Snake Eater remake. I played through in New York, so 2066 01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:18.359 have either review. 2067 01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:20.520 I guess it's more for Dan. I don't think it 2068 01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:21.880 would be your kind of game. Mary. Have you played 2069 01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:23.800 Mafia the Old Country at all? Apparently it's good. 2070 01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:27.159 I heard not the hottest stuff on it. 2071 01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:32.079 Really, reviews I'm seeing are like Eights. Okay, I haven't 2072 01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:35.640 touched it. I just I've always tried to like that series. 2073 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:37.199 But I like the idea that this is actually in 2074 01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:40.199 Sicily and what nineteen hundred or something seems appealing, Cam, 2075 01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:40.680 I check it out. 2076 01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:42.800 And I don't mean to have a dearth of games. 2077 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:47.159 I've been playing a very long game for work that 2078 01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:48.159 I'll be able to talk about. 2079 01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:52.720 I guess down the road, where's your dearth? Where's myth? 2080 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:53.119 Loser? 2081 01:34:53.479 --> 01:35:00.159 Right here, he doesn't have a death of games. 2082 01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:04.079 Actually shivered when I heard someone start singing just now, God. 2083 01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:07.880 I think you're maybe you're afraid that maybe you're just 2084 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.079 afraid of how much you deep down actually love music. 2085 01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:14.279 That's probably that's probably what's going on. 2086 01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:18.760 Music lover only be able to appreciate things if they're 2087 01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:19.439 sung to me. 2088 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:22.199 Yeah, yeah, that's that's the second half of my life? 2089 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:22.560 Is that? 2090 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:24.520 Just wait, it's coming. 2091 01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:26.359 Uh. 2092 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:31.079 There's a joke in theater Camp where the like basically, Okay, 2093 01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:33.279 so I do want you guys to watch this movie. 2094 01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:34.920 It's it's funny. You don't have to be a theater kid. 2095 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:35.520 It's hilarious. 2096 01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:41.840 It's basically Amy Sidaris the mom. She is the head 2097 01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:44.840 of Adirondo Act. It's an acting camp in the Adirondecks. 2098 01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:48.399 She has a seizure and goes into a coma. So 2099 01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:53.239 her son Troy, who is Jimmy tetrou like biggest bro ever, 2100 01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:55.800 has to go take over the camp and keep it afloat. 2101 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:57.600 And everybody hates him because he's a bro and it's 2102 01:35:57.640 --> 01:36:00.279 a theater camp. And he's asking me he's just a 2103 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:03.159 dumb ass. And he's asking this dude, Glenn, who is 2104 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:07.960 the stage like a stage manager. He's like so, he's like, yeah, 2105 01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:11.000 so this year's this year's play is a music, a 2106 01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:14.279 straight play. He's like, wait, so what is this straight plays? 2107 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:15.960 I guess there's just no music. He's like, what would 2108 01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:21.319 a gay play be? He's like, a musical. It's a 2109 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:22.199 very funny movie. 2110 01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:23.279 That's pretty funny. 2111 01:36:23.439 --> 01:36:26.920 Also, Caroline Aaron, Am I fucking that up? Caroline Aaron 2112 01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:29.239 raspy voice, she's in it. She's really funny. 2113 01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:32.159 I don't know. I've pitched that movie enof you. Sh'd 2114 01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:32.640 watch it if you? 2115 01:36:32.840 --> 01:36:36.159 Uh, it's like an hour and a half comedy mockumentary. 2116 01:36:36.720 --> 01:36:38.760 Anyway, do you want to talk about emails? 2117 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:41.760 Yeah? Yeah, technology, Yeah. 2118 01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:43.960 This bit is fun. I do it all the time. 2119 01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:47.039 Okay, as usual, you can write into fire Scape Past 2120 01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:51.439 at gmail dot com for any questions or comments or 2121 01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:54.640 concerns you want read on the show. We never read 2122 01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:58.439 the concerns, but questions are fair game. Uh, that's fire 2123 01:36:58.520 --> 01:37:00.880 Escape Past at gmail dot com. 2124 01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:01.199 Mary. 2125 01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:04.560 Actually, Mary, I'll no, yeah, Mary, do you want to 2126 01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:06.439 read this first one? The first one's not a question, 2127 01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:08.880 It is a shout out? 2128 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:17.680 Sure, Hello fire Casters. Oh I like that. Just I know, 2129 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:22.119 I feel like we earned that. Fire Caster. All right, 2130 01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:25.600 Hello fire Caster. Just wanted to say how much I've 2131 01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:27.920 enjoyed your podcast over the years, and I was hoping 2132 01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:30.239 you could give a shout out to my wife as 2133 01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:31.960 we will soon be on a road trip to go 2134 01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:38.680 see Oasis in Chicago celebrating our thirtieth wedding anniversary. It 2135 01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:43.399 is what a huge feat and seeing Oasis sounds amazed. 2136 01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:45.840 I would love to see Oasis. 2137 01:37:46.079 --> 01:37:48.000 Oh yeah, I know, Yeah, that'd be amazing. I grew 2138 01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:49.520 up with them anyway, Sorry, there's more. 2139 01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:52.720 When we go on trips, she often asks if we 2140 01:37:52.760 --> 01:37:55.920 can listen to those goofy people on my podcast, the 2141 01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:58.439 one with the guy who eats eggshells thinking they are 2142 01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:01.439 egg whites. Actually my I've bought one of Dan's books 2143 01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:04.359 after listening to him on one of our trips discussing 2144 01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:07.479 his anxiety on the podcast. She used to be an 2145 01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:10.039 avid gamer back in the day, excelling in games like 2146 01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:16.399 Half Life, Unreal Tournament, Elemental, Gearbolt, Phantasmagoria, Mortal Kombat, among others. 2147 01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:21.159 But these days it's Pegl, just Pegl, only Pegl. 2148 01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:23.319 But I have the inspiration. 2149 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.680 Are ok, Darryl need to rescue Pegel? 2150 01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:30.960 Nope? 2151 01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:34.439 But I have been an avid gamer since the seventies 2152 01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:39.000 and I still gain most of old consoles h and 2153 01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:41.960 I have the current ones. I think I spent too 2154 01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:45.720 much money and time on the hobby these days. AnyWho, 2155 01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:48.600 I wanted to give my wife a good shout out 2156 01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:50.760 for putting up with my gaming over the years and 2157 01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:52.199 never really complaining about it. 2158 01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:54.600 Thank you, Debbie. Happy anniversary. 2159 01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:59.159 I love you, Darryl, Happy anniversary. 2160 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:03.800 That's a sweetest female. 2161 01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:05.640 Almost as long as I've been alive thirty years. 2162 01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:10.840 High bar for a good anniversary shout out, I mean 2163 01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:15.479 good work. Yeah. First of all, I just want to say, Debbie, 2164 01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:18.079 you have been gaming for so long and you have 2165 01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:21.399 such a good history of gaming you have earned just 2166 01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:26.279 being a retired PEGL gamer. You can just play Pegel 2167 01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:29.960 now and recognize that that is what you love. And 2168 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.520 I think that's cool and so I hope you enjoy Pegel. 2169 01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:37.920 If you like Pegel, I am going to recommend Peglin, 2170 01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:41.640 which is Pegel. But you are also like a little 2171 01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:46.279 goblin going on an adventure pegl goodness, so I think 2172 01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:49.840 you would like that. But no pressure. Happy anniversary. 2173 01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:52.760 Also, what are your thoughts on Hamilton? Thank you Darryl. 2174 01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:56.800 Dan do you we did trim this one a bit. 2175 01:39:57.319 --> 01:40:01.039 We got kind of straight to the question and Jeff, 2176 01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:03.840 we just wanted to trim it for the intense for 2177 01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:05.800 the purposes of this section. But Dan, if you want 2178 01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:07.279 to read this second one from Jeff. 2179 01:40:07.479 --> 01:40:10.399 Yeah, Hello fire Gang, longtime listener, multiple time right in. 2180 01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:12.960 As you've grown older, how have you learned to cope 2181 01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:17.319 with changing friend dynamics as people's lives change, careers, moving, marriage, 2182 01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:19.680 et cetera, as well as learning to let go and 2183 01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:22.159 move on when your relationship with someone changes so much 2184 01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:24.199 that it can't be rekindled or is best left for 2185 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:26.920 a reconnection later in life. Thanks again for always making 2186 01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:29.399 the workday go faster. Or my evening walks less lonely 2187 01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:33.199 that is Jeff, Yeah, that's let's a get older. That's 2188 01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:34.960 definitely a thing. It's like I feel like in college, 2189 01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.760 especially like you know, everyone's socializing all the time. You 2190 01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:39.439 all live in the same city, you know, you're all 2191 01:40:39.439 --> 01:40:41.560 like living in the same dorm and stuff like that. 2192 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.840 And I think post college is where that can drift 2193 01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:47.560 apart in things. And I think about that fairly frequently 2194 01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:50.319 because like I think I'm guilty of like if someone's 2195 01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:53.439 not in my immediate vision cone you know, if it's 2196 01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:56.119 not someone I work with every day or I live with, 2197 01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:58.800 or or is in my city and you know I 2198 01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:01.159 run into and hang out with frequently, I am the 2199 01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:04.199 Pott guilty of. Yeah, exactly, Like I'm kind of guilty 2200 01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:06.399 of like I'm not always the first one to reach 2201 01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:08.720 out or keep up, you know, and it's never I 2202 01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:10.840 do worry about that because like I don't want any 2203 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:13.239 of my friends to think that like I'm not reaching 2204 01:41:13.239 --> 01:41:15.079 out because like I don't care anymore or anything like that. 2205 01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:17.760 It's just like I so kind of have to live 2206 01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:20.159 in the here and now, like maybe to a fault 2207 01:41:20.439 --> 01:41:22.239 where it's like just moment to moment, and so that 2208 01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:25.479 just means the people you know, you guys, Giant Bomb guys, Bonk, 2209 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:28.119 you know Ben, folks here in Minnesota, things like that. 2210 01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:29.920 But it's like I have so many friends from all 2211 01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:32.119 these places I've lived and jobs I've had and everything 2212 01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:34.920 that like I'm probably not reaching out to it all 2213 01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:36.600 and they probably are like, oh, I wonder if you're 2214 01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:38.279 still friends with me or something, and like the answer 2215 01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:41.119 is almost always yes. Like I have very few people 2216 01:41:41.159 --> 01:41:42.800 that I like, am like I don't want to talk 2217 01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:44.359 to that person, you know, so. 2218 01:41:44.680 --> 01:41:50.960 Yeah, I think I hope most people now understand how 2219 01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:53.680 tiring it can be to keep up with everybody. I 2220 01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:55.760 feel like most of my friends. I don't have any 2221 01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:57.840 friends that are dicks about it, like, hey, you don't 2222 01:41:57.880 --> 01:41:58.680 really talk to me anymore. 2223 01:41:59.279 --> 01:42:01.039 I've had some that are like, oh, I guess we're 2224 01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:03.720 not friends, like or like I'll hear through a third 2225 01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:06.079 party that like, oh, yeah, you know this person thinks 2226 01:42:06.079 --> 01:42:08.319 that like, oh you know, Dan was in town. He 2227 01:42:08.359 --> 01:42:09.800 didn't reach out. It's like, well yeah, but it's like 2228 01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:12.640 a stressful thing for me. It's like, especially when I traveled, 2229 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:14.560 and it's like like I was in San Francisco and 2230 01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.479 New York just recently, and I was there for two 2231 01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:18.920 nights each time, and most of that time was with 2232 01:42:19.039 --> 01:42:22.039 work stuff I had to do. And I did socialize 2233 01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:24.560 in both instances, but certainly not with everyone at like 2234 01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:26.760 what every city I go to, I'm not going to 2235 01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.319 text everyone I know and try to figure out timing. 2236 01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:31.439 It's just like, so I hope I get up in 2237 01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:32.840 my head about that. In fact, the New York trip 2238 01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:34.239 was really kind of stressed me out because it's like 2239 01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:36.039 I know a lot of people in New York and 2240 01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:38.119 I had very limited time and didn't know how much 2241 01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:40.119 free time I'd be, like, I hope people don't think like, 2242 01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:41.800 oh I saw Dan was in town. He didn't even 2243 01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:44.119 reach out, And it's like it's never that like, oh 2244 01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:45.680 I don't want to hang out with you. 2245 01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:48.079 It's just that, like, I appreciate you reach out to me. 2246 01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:50.520 I did, middle Finger. It's all your other friends he 2247 01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:52.880 didn't reach out to. Absolutely, we didn't hang out. 2248 01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:54.600 Though you are the one they was busy. 2249 01:42:55.039 --> 01:43:00.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to I got apologies if 2250 01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:04.119 this sounds I'm purposely trying to be vague because I'm 2251 01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:06.640 respecting someone's privacy, Dan, I texted you about this. 2252 01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:11.479 I have a friend. 2253 01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:13.560 Who I like grew up with it was very close 2254 01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:16.840 to until I was like went to college basically. 2255 01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:19.279 Had a few hiccups with. 2256 01:43:19.199 --> 01:43:21.840 His friend growing up in those eighteen years where I 2257 01:43:21.880 --> 01:43:24.159 was like, oh, that was kind of a shitty thing, 2258 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:25.359 and you know, like we didn't hang out, but we 2259 01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:27.159 were always like every time we hung out, it felt 2260 01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:32.680 like we had never stopped. Basically recently got some very 2261 01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:38.840 very bad news from them in no uncertain terms, like 2262 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:43.039 their health is like steeply declining where it's the point 2263 01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:47.439 where I'm like, you know, getting ready to say goodbye, 2264 01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:50.720 which is nuts. So that was weird because we have 2265 01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:53.560 not kept in touch a lot in the intervening year 2266 01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:58.680 since high school, so they kind of came back out 2267 01:43:58.680 --> 01:44:01.239 of woodwork to tell me this news. So it's a 2268 01:44:01.439 --> 01:44:06.319 very kind of complex relationship now, like in many ways 2269 01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:10.199 because I'm trying to figure out I was like, oh, yeah, wow, 2270 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:12.920 it's not only a friend that I had kind of 2271 01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:17.640 emotionally moved on from and didn't worry about keeping up with. 2272 01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:19.479 All of a sudden, now they're back in a very 2273 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:21.279 intense way, and you know, like I want to you know, 2274 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:23.760 talk to them and be there for them all the time. 2275 01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:26.279 So it's like, I guess to answer the emails question, 2276 01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:28.960 it's like, you don't fucking know what's going to happen 2277 01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:31.039 in the future with like maybe people, people will come 2278 01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:32.960 back in your life, and I'm sure. 2279 01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:35.199 Of it, people will leave. I don't know. 2280 01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:39.319 I think we're I think if you feel bad about 2281 01:44:39.359 --> 01:44:41.319 not keeping up with someone, that's probably a sign that 2282 01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:43.159 you care about them a lot, and maybe you should 2283 01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:45.079 try to. It can be tiring to keep up with people, 2284 01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:46.960 but like, I don't know, I feel like it's a 2285 01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:49.520 trust your gut thing. Like if it's if you are 2286 01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:51.720 feeling guilty that you're not keeping up with a specific person, 2287 01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:54.279 that's probably a sign that they mean a lot to you, 2288 01:44:54.479 --> 01:44:56.520 and maybe you should every once in a while put 2289 01:44:56.520 --> 01:44:59.279 some time aside to text them. If like you go 2290 01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:01.239 to a city, like and said, It's like I went 2291 01:45:01.479 --> 01:45:05.520 to San Francisco and I found out that like so 2292 01:45:05.600 --> 01:45:07.279 and so was pissed I didn't hang out with them. 2293 01:45:07.319 --> 01:45:08.399 I was like, oh, I didn't even think of them 2294 01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:11.119 when I went there. It's probably you know, they have 2295 01:45:11.199 --> 01:45:12.760 a higher opinion of me than I do of them. 2296 01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:14.680 I don't know. I don't. That doesn't keep me up 2297 01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:20.079 at night, but yeah, I don't know. I like. 2298 01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:22.920 I would also say video games are pretty good like that. 2299 01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:26.039 I have certain friends I only catch up with through 2300 01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:29.840 video games, Like they can be a good medium friendswap whatever. 2301 01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:33.720 Stay in touch and thoughtful of each other without having 2302 01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:35.760 to be like what it's all the ship in your 2303 01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:37.800 life about? You know, like sometimes you just want to 2304 01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:38.920 see someone and catch. 2305 01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:42.960 Up and say hi, yeah, yeah, and and like yeah. 2306 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:44.359 And I would also say, like, you don't know what 2307 01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:45.760 new hobbies you're going to pick up that are going 2308 01:45:45.840 --> 01:45:47.680 to make you want to reach back out to someone. 2309 01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:53.159 I have people that now that I'm into like musicals, 2310 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:55.520 I talk to a lot more now. 2311 01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:57.720 Yeah, and people you talk to less now that. 2312 01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:01.800 They cut us off immediately. 2313 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:03.840 I'm just gonna be phased out of fire Escape. 2314 01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:04.079 Yeah. 2315 01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:06.600 Yeah, we're gonna have to look at the legality a 2316 01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:07.760 super majority vote here. 2317 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:08.800 Yeah, genuine question. 2318 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.880 I'm so curious, Like I feel like before this episode, 2319 01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:14.560 if the audience had been pulled which one of us 2320 01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.079 likes musicals, I highly doubt I would have gotten the 2321 01:46:17.079 --> 01:46:17.680 most votes. 2322 01:46:17.800 --> 01:46:19.680 It would have been it definitely would have been made 2323 01:46:19.720 --> 01:46:22.279 so it would have had to be merry. Then I 2324 01:46:22.319 --> 01:46:22.960 feel like it would have. 2325 01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:23.840 Been merry, like that's what. 2326 01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:25.199 You like musicals? 2327 01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:28.319 If yeah, I think yeah. 2328 01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:31.279 I think that's uh dislike or like sorry, Just so 2329 01:46:31.319 --> 01:46:35.279 I understand if if people like before this episode were like, hey, 2330 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:38.159 one of the fire escape musicals. 2331 01:46:38.199 --> 01:46:40.560 Look, there's no fucking chance anybody would vote me, so 2332 01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:41.039 it's one out. 2333 01:46:41.319 --> 01:46:43.720 I agree, But I think it's unfair to assume me 2334 01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:46.119 because I don't think there's a lot of like preconceived 2335 01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:48.119 notions that I would like musicals. In fact, I think 2336 01:46:48.159 --> 01:46:49.760 there would be a lot of assumptions that I don't 2337 01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:51.640 like musicals, and the only thing that you would make 2338 01:46:51.680 --> 01:46:55.720 the connection of is like, oh like girl like like 2339 01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:58.960 musical or something like that. But you're the whino. If anything, 2340 01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:02.399 you're patured, you would like I do weird for people 2341 01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:03.119 to assume it's me. 2342 01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:07.479 Yeah, I was saying deduction, they would have gone with you. 2343 01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:11.000 But but you are the high society fella. That's misogyny. 2344 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:16.840 Baby, you're a woman. I stopped. 2345 01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:20.279 Was the one who refused to be in our Best 2346 01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:22.560 Old Test episode last last time. 2347 01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:24.039 So two women, I'm not. 2348 01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:26.760 Going to show up for that ship i'mn eli. 2349 01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:33.640 People totally would assume it was Mike Yeah, who lives 2350 01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:36.760 in New York City and loves high society stuff. Yeah, weird. 2351 01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:45.279 Yeah, we agree, we agree high society stuff. Oh my god, guys, 2352 01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:47.720 I need to send you photos. 2353 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:51.439 Some literature dork whyo that lives in New York City 2354 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:52.159 and you. 2355 01:47:52.119 --> 01:47:55.640 Don't think about you The next email is about literature. 2356 01:47:57.119 --> 01:47:58.479 You said you put in there because you wanted to 2357 01:47:58.479 --> 01:47:59.399 talk about literature. 2358 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:03.680 Don't literally You're right, You're right, You're right. It was 2359 01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:05.600 not my most self aware comment. 2360 01:48:06.199 --> 01:48:06.640 Thank you. 2361 01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:10.560 I'm I'm I agree, But I need to send you 2362 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:12.600 photos of some of the most famous wine makers. They 2363 01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:18.479 are like like dumpy farmers with like yeah, wearing like 2364 01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:22.800 stone Cold Steve Austin shirts. Yeah, I'm not kidding. Yes, 2365 01:48:23.159 --> 01:48:25.680 I'll send you photos. That's not always high society and wine. 2366 01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:29.479 We did open a very big, funny model of wine 2367 01:48:29.520 --> 01:48:31.560 last night. It was funny because it was bigger, was 2368 01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:35.920 he saying, Renolds, and bigger. 2369 01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:41.439 Than playing Yeah, is not your costume. 2370 01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:45.800 You guys think so. But I hang out with poors 2371 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:46.640 all the time. 2372 01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:49.319 I dumpster dive with beer drinking. 2373 01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:52.680 I buy two hundred dollars invented stone cold shirts off 2374 01:48:52.680 --> 01:48:54.239 eBay to seem cool and poor. 2375 01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:01.319 Okay, I don't know we answer Jeff's question at all. 2376 01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:02.279 I have a. 2377 01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:05.000 Legit answer to this and it is a bit personal. 2378 01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:06.640 But I think that the person that I will talk 2379 01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:09.399 about will understand because we have been such We have 2380 01:49:09.439 --> 01:49:11.800 such a cool story, which is when I moved to Portland, 2381 01:49:12.479 --> 01:49:15.720 the people that I knew moved away almost within like 2382 01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:18.640 two months, which was heartbreaking, and they didn't know anyone 2383 01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:20.960 in Portland and I didn't have any buds here anymore, 2384 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:25.800 and that was really hard for me. And uh maybe 2385 01:49:26.079 --> 01:49:30.760 through a mutual friend I am uh, I. 2386 01:49:30.600 --> 01:49:32.800 Was introduced to Dina Nina Freeman. 2387 01:49:33.319 --> 01:49:36.119 Uh oh yeah, I've interviewed at. 2388 01:49:36.039 --> 01:49:38.760 A game studio. Nina is a game designer. She's also 2389 01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:41.199 a Twitch streamer, but she's did you. 2390 01:49:41.319 --> 01:49:43.760 Get her name wrong? Is that how far you've drifted 2391 01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:44.680 Nina Freeman? 2392 01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:47.479 Though I did not say. 2393 01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:54.199 Dina Mary close, you said you said Dina Nina Freeman, 2394 01:49:54.279 --> 01:49:55.640 and I was like, I wonder if that's her? 2395 01:49:55.680 --> 01:50:01.319 Like Tage, I can't remember everybody's name all the time. 2396 01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:04.479 Definitely said okay, that was a slip of the tongue. 2397 01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:07.880 It's just so funny that you're talking about how you're 2398 01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:08.439 so close. 2399 01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:17.079 Nina, Nina start right now, captured, damn it. 2400 01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:20.960 Nina is a game designer. She made Sybil, she made. 2401 01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:23.880 Like gone Home, uh uh Home. 2402 01:50:23.960 --> 01:50:25.920 Uh Tacoma and. 2403 01:50:26.079 --> 01:50:28.359 How do you do It? She came on aftercon You're. 2404 01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:31.680 Right, and we met in May, and so she makes 2405 01:50:31.720 --> 01:50:34.119 these indie games and we met. We became really good friends, 2406 01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:36.119 and we hung out all the time, and we actually 2407 01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:38.680 became very close. And we played through a lot of 2408 01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:40.840 the Silent Hill series together. 2409 01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:43.720 And so silent Hill is a good name, not so silent. 2410 01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:44.840 Hill, and we like talked through all of them. 2411 01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:46.560 We played all of them, and we became very close. 2412 01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:50.119 And then I think during the COVID times, her and 2413 01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:52.920 her partner decided to move to the East Coast, where 2414 01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:54.840 their family is from. 2415 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:55.920 It made more sense for them. 2416 01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:58.199 That's where they wanted to be to like actually like 2417 01:50:58.279 --> 01:50:59.760 buy a home and like raise a family, and I 2418 01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:01.600 would it like that really sucks and it's really hard 2419 01:51:01.600 --> 01:51:04.119 for me. We kind of kept in touch, and ultimately 2420 01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:06.960 what ended up happening is is we just stopped talking 2421 01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.600 to each other very often, like basically at all. We 2422 01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:13.079 really don't catch up as much, and it's very rare, 2423 01:51:13.079 --> 01:51:15.159 but I'd say like once or twice a year we 2424 01:51:15.239 --> 01:51:17.239 will see each other online and be like, oh my god, 2425 01:51:17.239 --> 01:51:20.159 I love you. And I still love her to this day, 2426 01:51:20.199 --> 01:51:22.039 and I think very highly of her, and I know 2427 01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:24.640 her name, and I appreciate her and her work and 2428 01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:27.640 I adore her. But I don't speak to her on 2429 01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:30.680 a weekly or monthly basis anymore. That's just not who 2430 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:32.640 I am. I usually am talking to the people who 2431 01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:35.479 I'm literally hanging around with, and I've lost that touch. 2432 01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:40.199 But she streams still and I lurk in her streams 2433 01:51:40.199 --> 01:51:42.560 sometimes just so I can hear her voice. And I 2434 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.119 don't actually comment or like talk because I don't want 2435 01:51:45.159 --> 01:51:48.319 to like catch up. I just like her, and so 2436 01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:50.760 I just want to say, like, this is my opinion, 2437 01:51:50.960 --> 01:51:53.199 but I'm not good at catching up with people that 2438 01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:55.520 are no longer in my vicinity. There are people that 2439 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:58.279 I love in my life that I don't talk to anymore. 2440 01:51:58.439 --> 01:52:00.359 But it's not because I don't like them, because they 2441 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:01.880 don't live where I live and I'm not going to 2442 01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:03.840 go get lunch with them, and so I don't. I 2443 01:52:03.880 --> 01:52:07.239 don't slack them, or I don't text them. I don't 2444 01:52:07.319 --> 01:52:10.000 email them, I don't talk to them at all, but 2445 01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:13.119 doesn't mean I don't love them. And so there may 2446 01:52:13.159 --> 01:52:14.920 be people in your life that you want to reach 2447 01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:17.520 back out to, and you can take Mike's events by 2448 01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:19.199 advice and you can reach back out to them, and 2449 01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:21.680 you can try. But if they don't text you back, 2450 01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:24.159 my advice to you is it does not mean that 2451 01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:26.199 they don't care about you and they don't love you. 2452 01:52:26.279 --> 01:52:27.279 They might be focused on. 2453 01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:29.600 What's ahead of them, and you should just enjoy the 2454 01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:31.399 memories that you have with that person and care about 2455 01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:34.520 them as much as you want to. I love people 2456 01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:36.800 in my life, and I love people in my past, 2457 01:52:37.159 --> 01:52:40.319 and Nina is someone who I spent really good quality 2458 01:52:40.359 --> 01:52:42.279 times with in my past and I will love her 2459 01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:44.039 forever even if I don't talk to her anymore. 2460 01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:46.640 Yeah, that's very It sounds like Dina. 2461 01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:46.960 Nina. 2462 01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:47.880 Yeah, Showina. 2463 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:50.279 Dina and I are super close. 2464 01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:51.880 Text her right now. I'd be like, hey, Dina, how 2465 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:52.920 you doing, dude? 2466 01:52:53.079 --> 01:52:55.319 If she listens to this, she's gonna be like, you 2467 01:52:55.640 --> 01:52:56.359 fucking idiot. 2468 01:52:58.319 --> 01:52:59.760 I tried to say. 2469 01:52:59.520 --> 01:52:59.960 Something, nigh. 2470 01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:03.640 It's Nina Freeman. 2471 01:53:03.800 --> 01:53:06.079 She made h She made a lot of indie games. 2472 01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:07.760 Check them out on Steam. 2473 01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:08.560 Thank you, Jef. 2474 01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:10.800 Yeah, it's just like you know, I got my old friends. 2475 01:53:10.840 --> 01:53:12.600 You know, Jim Turry, he's great. 2476 01:53:12.840 --> 01:53:13.039 Yeah. 2477 01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:15.239 I love to like to catch up with Jim Turry 2478 01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:16.319 and it's great. 2479 01:53:16.520 --> 01:53:18.680 Yeah, competent ship this episode. 2480 01:53:18.880 --> 01:53:22.399 Yeah, Jerry Shreyer, Yeah, yeah, good friend. 2481 01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:26.600 Jerry Schreyer myself. Your good wine kind of wine? 2482 01:53:27.439 --> 01:53:29.720 I got it from a bottle. 2483 01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:31.279 I'd have to go downstairs and get it. 2484 01:53:31.319 --> 01:53:34.279 You got the wine from a bottle? Yeah, that's often 2485 01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:35.039 how it happens. 2486 01:53:35.119 --> 01:53:37.279 Didn't ever tried wine from cans? Is that a thing 2487 01:53:37.359 --> 01:53:38.399 that somebody tried to make? 2488 01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:41.600 Yeah? Ok, good, there's a rose one that was going around. 2489 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:44.880 I was just in cans. 2490 01:53:46.159 --> 01:53:48.039 I had a really fucking funny joke there. I'm gonna 2491 01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:50.880 tell you guys about I was walking. I was walking 2492 01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:54.159 through my neighbors To judge of whether or not it's funny, Mike, 2493 01:53:54.439 --> 01:53:57.600 I was walking through my neighborhood with uh, some friends, 2494 01:53:57.680 --> 01:54:00.920 and a cop rode by on a bicycle and I 2495 01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:02.279 said it. I was like, why the fuck do we 2496 01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:04.239 need bicycle cops? And then there was like a two 2497 01:54:04.239 --> 01:54:06.000 second beat, and then I said, and also, how did 2498 01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:07.159 that bicycle become a cop. 2499 01:54:09.359 --> 01:54:11.359 Okay, yeah, that's pretty good. 2500 01:54:13.199 --> 01:54:14.000 I like it. 2501 01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.399 It's not that shrimp fried rice energy, you know what 2502 01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:17.159 I mean. 2503 01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:22.800 No, you tell me a Rice, go and give her, 2504 01:54:23.159 --> 01:54:23.720 give her time. 2505 01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:27.479 You tell me a shrimp rice. It's a good bit. 2506 01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:32.920 You tell me a Rice. 2507 01:54:34.640 --> 01:54:37.560 Barry gets up on stage and just fucks up the 2508 01:54:37.560 --> 01:54:39.640 first joke and walks. 2509 01:54:39.720 --> 01:54:41.800 No ever, Caesar again just walks into the ocean. 2510 01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:48.079 Are you guys? You're wheel at the crowd serve. 2511 01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:54.640 Here you jump in just pancake on the floor. Yeah, 2512 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:59.119 thank you. Jeff in this podcast, all right. 2513 01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:02.960 No, he would say that's his fucking book thing, because yeah, 2514 01:55:03.239 --> 01:55:04.760 because he's not the highest society guy. 2515 01:55:05.159 --> 01:55:08.960 You guys have read books before. Okay, I don't know 2516 01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.840 you guys might remember this. Uh hey, fire Escape. I 2517 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:13.960 wrote Earli this year about my goal of listening to 2518 01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:16.840 a thousand albums by December. Well, I hit my goal 2519 01:55:16.920 --> 01:55:21.279 in May. A thousand albums in five months is crazy. 2520 01:55:22.279 --> 01:55:25.159 An hour on average, probably, right, Yeah. 2521 01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:26.439 But yeah, you really would have had to have been 2522 01:55:26.439 --> 01:55:28.920 moving on. Okay, Yeah, cool, I listened to the thousand 2523 01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:29.680 albums of it December. 2524 01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:30.439 I hit my goal in May. 2525 01:55:30.479 --> 01:55:32.600 I listened to all your album recommendations, enjoyed every single 2526 01:55:32.640 --> 01:55:34.479 one awesome, So he probably listened to Evil Friends by 2527 01:55:34.520 --> 01:55:36.319 Porsch Cole Demand, one of my favorites. I've been working 2528 01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:38.479 on a new goal, trying to set aside time to 2529 01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:41.119 read every single day. Right now I'm reading The Brothers Karamazov, 2530 01:55:41.159 --> 01:55:42.359 which would take me a long. 2531 01:55:42.199 --> 01:55:42.760 Time to read. 2532 01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:45.199 It's a really fucking good book, but once again, I 2533 01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:47.279 need some res for what to read. Next to my 2534 01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:49.359 question is what are some novel recommendations you have that 2535 01:55:49.399 --> 01:55:51.680 are your favorites or that you find the most life changing. 2536 01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:53.680 Nathan from New Hampshire. 2537 01:55:56.880 --> 01:56:00.600 Uh, okay, so Mike probably has a much deeper well 2538 01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:04.119 to come to draw from and probably marry it too. Yes, 2539 01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:07.319 I'll give my dumb guy answers here. As far as 2540 01:56:07.359 --> 01:56:10.720 like a novel I've read in recent years that I 2541 01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:15.520 really liked, it's a little indie one called bram Stoker's Dracula. 2542 01:56:17.479 --> 01:56:19.359 I read that I thought that was really good. Mike 2543 01:56:19.399 --> 01:56:21.399 also recommended the couple to me that I really liked. 2544 01:56:21.399 --> 01:56:21.439 Like. 2545 01:56:21.479 --> 01:56:23.000 There was a period where I was actually reading fairly 2546 01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.000 frequently in New York. Mike a visit from the goon 2547 01:56:26.079 --> 01:56:29.359 Squad that was one, and what was the Russia one 2548 01:56:29.439 --> 01:56:30.319 from the Linda Laws. 2549 01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:32.319 That's the one that inspired Last of Us. 2550 01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:37.119 Good City through Russia or something. 2551 01:56:37.319 --> 01:56:38.119 Something in the city. 2552 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:41.359 Yeah, it's the David Benioff from Game of Thrones wrote, 2553 01:56:41.399 --> 01:56:42.159 it's really good. 2554 01:56:43.119 --> 01:56:45.159 But I did enjoy that a lot like Mike you do. 2555 01:56:46.079 --> 01:56:48.319 In the Last of Us part to ship. I'll look 2556 01:56:48.359 --> 01:56:48.560 it up. 2557 01:56:49.279 --> 01:56:51.600 I can't remember it, Mike, Like in that period where 2558 01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:54.399 I was actually reading fairly regularly, you all of your 2559 01:56:54.439 --> 01:56:56.720 recommendations really hit for me. Except for the one about 2560 01:56:56.840 --> 01:56:58.560 the City of Thieves. Yeah, except for the one about 2561 01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:00.279 the guy surfing, because it was just like fucking six 2562 01:57:00.319 --> 01:57:01.920 hours of reading the guy describing waves. 2563 01:57:02.039 --> 01:57:04.119 Oh that I fucking love. 2564 01:57:04.319 --> 01:57:07.439 My wife's cousin is reading it now and we waxed 2565 01:57:07.680 --> 01:57:08.119 about it. 2566 01:57:08.199 --> 01:57:10.199 For me, that was your only miss. Everything else I 2567 01:57:10.239 --> 01:57:13.159 ever recommended it was awesome. A couple other just real 2568 01:57:13.239 --> 01:57:18.399 quick ones, gaming lighthearted uh uh, life story thing Mike 2569 01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:21.640 Drucker good friend of mine, A good game note rematch 2570 01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:24.239 he just put out. I was laughing out loud throughout 2571 01:57:24.239 --> 01:57:27.000 the entire fucking book. It is tremendous just to collect 2572 01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:29.800 like he's about my age, played like very similarly, so, 2573 01:57:29.960 --> 01:57:32.720 very relatable, very just like, yeah, he worked in Nintendo 2574 01:57:32.800 --> 01:57:36.720 Late Night comedy, like incredible career life. If you like wrestling, 2575 01:57:36.920 --> 01:57:40.640 Max's autobiography is fantastic, John Moxley's is great. And then 2576 01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:42.920 if you're into kind of like getting into like meditation 2577 01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:44.600 and things like that and kind of learning a bit 2578 01:57:44.640 --> 01:57:48.039 of a how to of that, the first kind of 2579 01:57:48.199 --> 01:57:50.960 entry level one. I've read a ton of books on mindfulness, 2580 01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:54.119 meditation stuff. Wherever you Go, There You Are by John 2581 01:57:54.159 --> 01:57:57.399 Cabot Zen is a great entry level one into that. 2582 01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:00.399 Hold on, yeah, the guy, the guy who wrote a 2583 01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:02.359 book about Meditation's last name is Zen. 2584 01:58:03.159 --> 01:58:08.159 It's z I n. Yeah. That's a very okay, gotcha. 2585 01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:10.640 Yeah, yeah, but that's that's that's a good first name. 2586 01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:16.600 Crentised. Yeah, no, yes, is really good. 2587 01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:22.439 That's a quick read, too, fairly quick, Mary, you have any. 2588 01:58:23.079 --> 01:58:28.159 I think my book tastes are probably not for this crowd. 2589 01:58:28.319 --> 01:58:32.159 I read mostly fantasy smut so ill. 2590 01:58:31.880 --> 01:58:36.199 That people I don't know seres and which is fucking 2591 01:58:36.720 --> 01:58:38.000 yeah and sucking. 2592 01:58:38.479 --> 01:58:42.880 So here's the thing, just to be clear, uh I 2593 01:58:43.279 --> 01:58:46.560 my tastes generally because you know, I work a lot 2594 01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:49.600 and I don't want to read something too serious. Usually 2595 01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:52.680 when I read, I read deep fantasy that is very 2596 01:58:52.760 --> 01:58:54.920 opposite from like the movies that I would watch. The 2597 01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:57.279 movies that I like are generally horror. You guys know 2598 01:58:57.359 --> 01:58:59.960 that I like to be scared when I watch film. 2599 01:59:01.039 --> 01:59:03.159 When I read, I like to watch, like I like 2600 01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:06.239 to read things that are like, Wow, there's fairies everywhere, 2601 01:59:06.279 --> 01:59:09.000 and there's dragons, and this guy's super hot and we're 2602 01:59:09.039 --> 01:59:12.319 gonna bang, and like that's escapism for me. It allows 2603 01:59:12.359 --> 01:59:13.960 me to really get out of my head and stop 2604 01:59:14.039 --> 01:59:18.960 thinking about work. I recommend a Court of Thorns and 2605 01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:25.399 Roses by uh Sarah Moss and Fourth Wing, which is 2606 01:59:25.439 --> 01:59:28.000 what I'm I think I'm on the third book now. 2607 01:59:28.159 --> 01:59:30.279 I should have finished it by now, but I haven't. Sorry, 2608 01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:34.000 And that is about dragons. So if you like dragons, 2609 01:59:34.079 --> 01:59:34.920 Fourth Wing. 2610 01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:37.600 Is that also smut with dragons. 2611 01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:39.119 It is also smart. 2612 01:59:39.159 --> 01:59:41.720 It's by Rebecca Yaros, And so like the idea of 2613 01:59:41.760 --> 01:59:46.039 Fourth Wing is there's I mean, it's it's generally what 2614 01:59:46.039 --> 01:59:48.359 you sound. It sounds like you get to pick you 2615 01:59:48.520 --> 01:59:51.359 if you're smart enough and strong enough and you can survive, 2616 01:59:51.720 --> 01:59:53.760 you get paired with a dragon. Then you like fight 2617 01:59:53.800 --> 01:59:55.960 in wars and stuff, and it's like a girl who 2618 01:59:56.039 --> 01:59:59.680 like is so she like gets paired with a dragon, 2619 01:59:59.720 --> 02:00:01.840 but there's also a dude and he's like super hot 2620 02:00:01.880 --> 02:00:02.399 and they bang. 2621 02:00:02.880 --> 02:00:04.359 That's it nice? 2622 02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:08.720 Yeah, I mean I find it really cathartic, just in 2623 02:00:08.720 --> 02:00:11.439 the sense where I certainly ain't thinking about work when 2624 02:00:11.439 --> 02:00:13.920 they're like I'm writing this dragon, but I wish I 2625 02:00:14.039 --> 02:00:16.640 was writing Tom and it's like cool, like you know, 2626 02:00:16.720 --> 02:00:19.159 like that's exciting for me and like it just gets 2627 02:00:19.159 --> 02:00:21.800 me out of my head one hundred percent and like 2628 02:00:21.840 --> 02:00:23.720 so like that's my thing. But I don't think that's 2629 02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:26.079 what normal, Like, I don't think that's what like a 2630 02:00:26.079 --> 02:00:29.239 lot of people probably prefer to read. So I can 2631 02:00:29.399 --> 02:00:32.359 understand that that's not everybody's cup of tea. I will say, 2632 02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:34.039 I'm very curious what you think, Mike, but I just 2633 02:00:34.079 --> 02:00:36.199 want to say I have a lot of anxiety. 2634 02:00:36.199 --> 02:00:36.720 This weekend. 2635 02:00:37.199 --> 02:00:41.199 I downloaded your audio book, Dan, and I listened to 2636 02:00:41.239 --> 02:00:43.960 your entire I listened to your entire audiobook this weekend. 2637 02:00:44.319 --> 02:00:46.199 Really did you narrate it? I? 2638 02:00:46.399 --> 02:00:47.000 Yes, he did. 2639 02:00:47.199 --> 02:00:50.159 They wanted they wanted the hire a bo actor to 2640 02:00:50.239 --> 02:00:51.840 do it, and I thought it was really weird that 2641 02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:55.600 like I can't imagine my words and my personal story 2642 02:00:55.680 --> 02:00:58.079 being some actor. So like I talked them into me 2643 02:00:58.159 --> 02:01:01.079 going in and recording the whole thing. I did not 2644 02:01:01.159 --> 02:01:03.439 know you did that, Mary Is that did it this weekend. 2645 02:01:03.479 --> 02:01:06.119 I did it Saturday. I was having a hard time 2646 02:01:06.279 --> 02:01:07.319 getting out of my head. 2647 02:01:08.039 --> 02:01:10.520 I I think it's I think it's I think it's 2648 02:01:10.520 --> 02:01:14.239 helpful as especially as a beginner's guide of like reflecting 2649 02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:17.159 and thinking. It's also nice because as practical examples you 2650 02:01:17.199 --> 02:01:22.119 talk about like real examples of you being in school 2651 02:01:22.159 --> 02:01:25.000 and being like, I need to not take this class. 2652 02:01:25.039 --> 02:01:26.800 I'm too anxious. I don't want to speak in front 2653 02:01:26.800 --> 02:01:28.199 of a class. I think that's, like some things that's 2654 02:01:28.279 --> 02:01:31.079 very relatable and a lot of people can understand. And 2655 02:01:31.119 --> 02:01:33.439 I also think it's endearing that, like, you know, for 2656 02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:35.479 what you do for a living, which is obviously very 2657 02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:38.159 much about putting yourself out there, it was obvious that 2658 02:01:38.199 --> 02:01:40.560 you had severe anxiety about doing that originally, and so 2659 02:01:40.600 --> 02:01:44.680 it's nice to see how you've You've taken a lot 2660 02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:47.000 of baby steps to overcome it. So I thought that 2661 02:01:47.079 --> 02:01:50.680 was really nice. So yeah, I thought it was lovely. 2662 02:01:50.760 --> 02:01:53.399 I also think it's nice In your book, you use 2663 02:01:53.560 --> 02:01:57.760 like very few large words. It's not a very complicated experience. 2664 02:01:58.199 --> 02:02:00.279 I think you could read this to your children night 2665 02:02:00.319 --> 02:02:02.319 before they go to bed. I think this is for 2666 02:02:02.399 --> 02:02:06.079 any kid or adult that's like I just kind of 2667 02:02:06.119 --> 02:02:07.920 want to talk about my anxiety. I think that is 2668 02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:09.840 literally what this is. It's like, I will just tell 2669 02:02:09.920 --> 02:02:13.159 you my story with anxiety, and it will help bring 2670 02:02:13.199 --> 02:02:15.479 maybe some peace into your world that you're not alone 2671 02:02:15.600 --> 02:02:18.000 like a lot of people having pretty much everybody, but 2672 02:02:18.039 --> 02:02:20.279 like not a lot of people have clinical anxiety, and 2673 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:21.239 it's not weird. 2674 02:02:21.000 --> 02:02:21.600 To talk about. 2675 02:02:22.199 --> 02:02:23.760 Yeah, I mean, and that is why I did it. 2676 02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:25.760 It's just because, like I think that like if I 2677 02:02:25.800 --> 02:02:28.000 had heard someone talk about this stuff back when I 2678 02:02:28.039 --> 02:02:29.520 was first struggling with it, I would have been like, 2679 02:02:29.520 --> 02:02:31.439 oh that feels better. No, I'm not like alone with 2680 02:02:31.479 --> 02:02:32.840 this thing. But I also wanted to go to like 2681 02:02:33.159 --> 02:02:35.199 lengths to be like, I'm not a doctor, and this 2682 02:02:35.239 --> 02:02:38.359 is an approachable book from just a normal person. So 2683 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:39.520 that's great to hear. Thank you. 2684 02:02:39.680 --> 02:02:42.039 I didn't know, Yeah it was, well, it was recommended 2685 02:02:42.079 --> 02:02:42.279 to me. 2686 02:02:42.640 --> 02:02:48.439 I wonder why I assume Spotify knew Spotify recommended it. 2687 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:52.000 Oh yeah, all right, I don't know if I've ever 2688 02:02:52.039 --> 02:02:53.399 told you this joke. I think I said it to 2689 02:02:53.520 --> 02:02:57.439 Jake about your book because I read it back in 2690 02:02:57.479 --> 02:03:01.119 twenty fifteen something like that. I had a joke that 2691 02:03:01.119 --> 02:03:06.560 maybe you'll find funny, uh. 2692 02:03:04.680 --> 02:03:05.680 Or you'll be insulted. 2693 02:03:06.439 --> 02:03:07.600 I'm either. 2694 02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:09.479 I was like, no, it's a great book. 2695 02:03:09.520 --> 02:03:11.119 But now I have an anxiety attack every time I 2696 02:03:11.159 --> 02:03:14.960 watch Gangs in New York. Oh yeah, yeah, but it's 2697 02:03:14.960 --> 02:03:15.560 a dumb joke. 2698 02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:17.840 It's like the reverse. It triggers me now, it's. 2699 02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:21.359 Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, because you were in the first one. Yeah, 2700 02:03:22.039 --> 02:03:23.680 I had a second one during Lord of the Rings 2701 02:03:23.680 --> 02:03:25.479 Two Towers, I can't remember that was in the butt 2702 02:03:26.279 --> 02:03:28.640 was in New York. Was the New Year's Eve one, 2703 02:03:28.680 --> 02:03:31.520 and then like whenever Two Towers came out, that was 2704 02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:33.239 the second one. And I was like, what's going on 2705 02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:34.319 with me in movie theaters? 2706 02:03:34.359 --> 02:03:35.880 You know, like that's in the book. 2707 02:03:35.920 --> 02:03:38.039 But I don't think you just maybe I'm wrong, but 2708 02:03:38.079 --> 02:03:39.720 I don't think you said the movie. I think you 2709 02:03:39.760 --> 02:03:41.039 just said I was in the movie theater and I 2710 02:03:41.119 --> 02:03:43.880 kept having panic attacks in movie theaters, which I. 2711 02:03:44.039 --> 02:03:46.039 Sit in the bathroom, and I was like, I'm fucking dying. 2712 02:03:46.039 --> 02:03:48.439 What is that New York was in the book was 2713 02:03:48.479 --> 02:03:50.720 the first Year Two Towers. 2714 02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:54.720 Yeah, I just think it's nice. I don't have severe 2715 02:03:54.800 --> 02:03:57.279 panic attacks or like severe anxiety, and I don't think 2716 02:03:57.319 --> 02:04:00.359 I have clinical anxiety, but just like regular people, I havingnxiety. 2717 02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:03.760 I was struggling sleeping because I was like, think about work. 2718 02:04:03.800 --> 02:04:05.279 We have a lot of pressure going on at work, 2719 02:04:05.319 --> 02:04:08.640 and like I'm thinking about stuff that is past due 2720 02:04:08.680 --> 02:04:12.439 and it's freaking me out. And like I I was 2721 02:04:12.520 --> 02:04:14.960 just I was really unable to get out of my head, 2722 02:04:15.159 --> 02:04:17.119 if that makes sense. I couldn't get out of my head. 2723 02:04:17.319 --> 02:04:19.560 And there's only a few things that really really get 2724 02:04:19.560 --> 02:04:22.199 me out of my head. And again, horror movies absolutely, 2725 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:24.439 because I'm like that person's gonna die. I can't think 2726 02:04:24.479 --> 02:04:30.199 about work when that's happening. And often metal like loud 2727 02:04:30.279 --> 02:04:33.560 music concerts, things like that that are like heavy will 2728 02:04:33.560 --> 02:04:37.159 get me out of my head because it's I don't know, 2729 02:04:37.239 --> 02:04:39.640 it's intense and people are like mashing and shit like that. 2730 02:04:39.640 --> 02:04:41.640 That will get me out of my head. So I 2731 02:04:41.640 --> 02:04:44.920 actually gravitate towards things that force me to get out 2732 02:04:44.920 --> 02:04:46.479 of my anxiety. 2733 02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:49.399 It's like century overload type things your brain doesn't get 2734 02:04:49.439 --> 02:04:51.760 a chance to have a break to I mean, how could. 2735 02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:57.000 You possibly and yeah, I mean I'm not being stabbed. 2736 02:04:58.560 --> 02:05:00.640 I'm not gonna tell you what horror movie just spoiled, 2737 02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:04.079 but just to be any of them of them? 2738 02:05:04.119 --> 02:05:06.479 Yeah, anyway, Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't get out of it. 2739 02:05:07.560 --> 02:05:10.439 I listened to an anxiety booked help me. 2740 02:05:11.279 --> 02:05:13.479 Oh wow, awesome to help. 2741 02:05:14.520 --> 02:05:16.039 Yeah, a little bit, I think I. 2742 02:05:16.000 --> 02:05:18.439 Think it was so fine. 2743 02:05:20.479 --> 02:05:23.359 With that helped me a little bit. That would be 2744 02:05:23.520 --> 02:05:24.199 my fun. 2745 02:05:25.840 --> 02:05:26.239 A little bit. 2746 02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:29.439 It was fine, and then there's mine under it. It's 2747 02:05:29.439 --> 02:05:31.399 like I can't watch gangs in New York anymore. 2748 02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:36.840 It is funny because like I've thought about, like because 2749 02:05:36.880 --> 02:05:39.880 I wrote that ten years ago, and like I say 2750 02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:41.760 in the book, that was like, anxiety is not a 2751 02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:43.319 thing that it's a chronic thing. I'm not going to 2752 02:05:43.359 --> 02:05:44.359 be like, oh I'm never having that. 2753 02:05:44.560 --> 02:05:46.760 You're not solving it. The point of it isn't to 2754 02:05:46.920 --> 02:05:47.319 solve it. 2755 02:05:47.560 --> 02:05:49.279 Yeah, but that's the thing is like in that ten 2756 02:05:49.359 --> 02:05:51.640 years I am still like literally today I was in 2757 02:05:51.720 --> 02:05:53.640 therapy talking about my anxiety and stuff like that. And 2758 02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:56.359 so it's like I do have another ten years of 2759 02:05:56.399 --> 02:06:00.600 like growth and learning and things like that stupid would 2760 02:06:00.720 --> 02:06:03.600 be the right. Anxiety is an ally to like just 2761 02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:04.600 put like a number of. 2762 02:06:05.680 --> 02:06:10.399 Still anxiety anxious, Yeah, anxiety. 2763 02:06:10.479 --> 02:06:14.439 Anxiety is an ally too colon. I'm still anxious. 2764 02:06:19.239 --> 02:06:20.319 A lot I could talk about. 2765 02:06:20.359 --> 02:06:22.720 It's just like to bring it on, sequel, bring it 2766 02:06:22.760 --> 02:06:23.760 on some more. 2767 02:06:25.159 --> 02:06:26.079 Anxiety harder. 2768 02:06:27.920 --> 02:06:29.359 It's still here. 2769 02:06:29.960 --> 02:06:37.039 Yeah, anxiety, Yeah, yeah, I've got I will actually say 2770 02:06:37.079 --> 02:06:38.960 I hate when people say no, I don't hate when 2771 02:06:38.960 --> 02:06:41.840 people say you mentioned like, what are some books that 2772 02:06:41.840 --> 02:06:43.720 were life changing? I will say my favorite book of 2773 02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:48.560 all time that I actually gave me more appreciation for 2774 02:06:48.680 --> 02:06:51.000 life and people like so it kind of changed my 2775 02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:53.680 life is One hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. 2776 02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:54.239 It is. 2777 02:06:57.000 --> 02:06:59.039 I was reading it's it's a fairly long book and 2778 02:06:59.079 --> 02:07:02.800 it's dense as hell. Well I remember reading that and 2779 02:07:02.880 --> 02:07:05.880 like halfway through it not knowing exactly where he's going. 2780 02:07:05.920 --> 02:07:07.560 And then the more and more you get through the 2781 02:07:07.560 --> 02:07:10.600 book toward the end, I remember thinking, I don't understand 2782 02:07:10.600 --> 02:07:13.039 how a human wrote this. This is like an alien 2783 02:07:13.119 --> 02:07:15.800 that had been studying humanity from Afar for a thousand 2784 02:07:15.840 --> 02:07:19.760 years finally wrote a book to distill what humans are 2785 02:07:19.840 --> 02:07:25.000 like the book. The book is about the like I 2786 02:07:25.039 --> 02:07:28.159 think something like eight generations of one family living in 2787 02:07:28.199 --> 02:07:31.800 this village in South America, and so the book starts 2788 02:07:31.840 --> 02:07:34.399 with like the patriarch and the matriarch and then goes 2789 02:07:34.439 --> 02:07:35.880 all the way through to their great great great great 2790 02:07:35.880 --> 02:07:39.399 great grandchildren. I will also say it's magical realism, so 2791 02:07:39.439 --> 02:07:44.159 some weird shit happens that's presented as quotidian like normal. 2792 02:07:45.600 --> 02:07:47.760 Most of my favorite authors are like magical realism, like 2793 02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:53.119 Orge sorry, Jorge Luis bor Has, who's Argentine writer. I 2794 02:07:53.319 --> 02:07:55.560 also love his stuff. He's only ever done short stories. 2795 02:07:55.560 --> 02:07:58.319 But if you can get Labyrinths collection like same thing 2796 02:07:58.359 --> 02:08:02.039 he's I would consider him a genius. But yeah, one 2797 02:08:02.079 --> 02:08:04.680 hundred Years of Solitude is like I remember putting that 2798 02:08:04.720 --> 02:08:07.119 book down and feeling like I was actually. 2799 02:08:08.359 --> 02:08:08.800 Different. 2800 02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:12.239 It sounds so fucking stupid, but and it sounds like 2801 02:08:12.279 --> 02:08:15.720 hoity toity, but it's an incredible book, one of the 2802 02:08:15.720 --> 02:08:19.359 most unreal. I think it's my favorite like work of art. 2803 02:08:20.640 --> 02:08:25.520 It's incredible. I will also say anything by a Teleo 2804 02:08:25.600 --> 02:08:28.359 Calvino in the same vein. He's an Italian magical realist 2805 02:08:28.399 --> 02:08:34.359 writer invisible Cities, it's not so much a novel as 2806 02:08:34.359 --> 02:08:37.760 it is, like he goes through these imaginary in imaginary 2807 02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:39.960 city invisible cities. I don't know one of those two 2808 02:08:40.359 --> 02:08:41.800 one of my favorite books. I can't remember the name. 2809 02:08:41.800 --> 02:08:47.239 It's like Dina, he goes cities. Yeah, if on a 2810 02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:52.359 winter's night of travel. Yeah, it's amazing. And then I 2811 02:08:52.399 --> 02:08:54.880 will say less like it wasn't life changing, but just 2812 02:08:54.920 --> 02:08:57.119 the way it's constructed is amazing. It's like kind of 2813 02:08:57.159 --> 02:09:00.000 reading a video game A House of Leaves by Marxie 2814 02:09:00.079 --> 02:09:00.720 Daniel Luski. 2815 02:09:00.920 --> 02:09:02.920 I've owned that for like fifteen years, and I keep 2816 02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:06.039 meaning to read it. I love these shit like it 2817 02:09:06.079 --> 02:09:08.600 does fun gimmicky things you know, with like yeah, text 2818 02:09:08.680 --> 02:09:11.279 and blank pages and stuff like that, it seems really cool. 2819 02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:13.960 You should it's I will say, it's not as long 2820 02:09:14.000 --> 02:09:17.880 as it looks, because in true, like God, that books 2821 02:09:17.880 --> 02:09:20.880 so fucking cool. The back, like one hundred pages or something, 2822 02:09:21.039 --> 02:09:23.760 is like the mass Effect codex, where if you really 2823 02:09:23.760 --> 02:09:27.720 want to dive into the book, it's like, uh, it's 2824 02:09:27.760 --> 02:09:31.760 not an index, it's it's like the research papers that 2825 02:09:31.800 --> 02:09:35.640 one of the characters has been reading in the story. 2826 02:09:35.680 --> 02:09:37.199 You can actually look at what he was reading and 2827 02:09:37.239 --> 02:09:39.520 get into the lore of stuff. So again, it's kind 2828 02:09:39.520 --> 02:09:40.119 of video gaming. 2829 02:09:40.399 --> 02:09:42.319 But remember there were like clockwork, oarring e'er. I had 2830 02:09:42.319 --> 02:09:44.680 a glossary where it's like, all, yeah, Deva means this 2831 02:09:44.920 --> 02:09:45.439 and yeah. 2832 02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:48.760 But House of Leaves for those who are familiar is 2833 02:09:49.920 --> 02:09:52.319 it was one of the biggest inspirations for control from 2834 02:09:52.399 --> 02:09:57.720 remedy entertainment. If you've seen people reading it in public, 2835 02:09:58.000 --> 02:10:01.119 it's kind of infamous for people like rotating the book 2836 02:10:01.159 --> 02:10:03.960 to read it and public on subways. But uh yeah, 2837 02:10:03.960 --> 02:10:06.960 he it's it's also a horror book. I should warn people. 2838 02:10:07.479 --> 02:10:09.800 It gets creepy and it's like, uh, what's the kind 2839 02:10:09.840 --> 02:10:14.880 of horror. It's unsettling horror. He basically discovered hill. He 2840 02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:19.239 discovered he moves into this house in Massachusetts, I want 2841 02:10:19.239 --> 02:10:21.800 to say, and he's going through marriage problems. It's like 2842 02:10:21.840 --> 02:10:23.359 the it's one of those things where the book is 2843 02:10:23.439 --> 02:10:25.279 kind of a metaphor for his marriage. 2844 02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:28.520 Following he discovers this. 2845 02:10:28.680 --> 02:10:29.840 Did he get divorced after? 2846 02:10:29.920 --> 02:10:31.600 Have you not read it? Mary? You would love it? 2847 02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:33.760 Of all people, I would say this might you would 2848 02:10:33.760 --> 02:10:36.399 love it. I think Lucy also loves that book too. 2849 02:10:37.119 --> 02:10:37.720 It got big. 2850 02:10:37.760 --> 02:10:40.119 It blew up again on social media after Alan Wake two, 2851 02:10:40.479 --> 02:10:42.560 but like I read it before that, so I'm cooler 2852 02:10:42.600 --> 02:10:43.319 than all those people. 2853 02:10:43.760 --> 02:10:44.600 But yeah, he he. 2854 02:10:44.560 --> 02:10:48.079 Finds a doorway on the end, like on an exterior 2855 02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:51.199 wall of his house that has a like it's a 2856 02:10:51.199 --> 02:10:55.000 closet that should not exist. He goes because it's it 2857 02:10:55.000 --> 02:10:56.600 should technically lead out of the house. 2858 02:10:56.399 --> 02:11:00.279 But there's like and the wardrobe. It doesn't lead somewhere else. 2859 02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:02.880 It's just a little closet that should technically be jutting 2860 02:11:02.920 --> 02:11:04.920 out from the house, but when he looks at it 2861 02:11:04.960 --> 02:11:06.920 from the outside, it's just the wall of the house. 2862 02:11:07.720 --> 02:11:10.319 And each time he goes through this door, it starts 2863 02:11:10.319 --> 02:11:14.680 building this like impossible space underground below his house, and 2864 02:11:15.039 --> 02:11:17.720 they go on expeditions into it, and sometimes it's like 2865 02:11:18.600 --> 02:11:21.760 miles longer than it was before. But it's just like 2866 02:11:21.840 --> 02:11:24.119 the sense of creeping dread in that book. It's not 2867 02:11:24.319 --> 02:11:27.399 it's it's a I hope I'm probably selling it terribly. 2868 02:11:27.399 --> 02:11:30.039 It's an amazing book, but like, if you're not up 2869 02:11:30.039 --> 02:11:32.640 to be a bit creeped out, it's not a it's 2870 02:11:32.680 --> 02:11:33.960 not the best book to read. 2871 02:11:33.760 --> 02:11:36.319 Like at night, like a creepy book. 2872 02:11:36.760 --> 02:11:41.479 It's amazing. I love it, but yeah, I'd say one 2873 02:11:41.520 --> 02:11:43.560 hundred years slitude. I will also say one more. 2874 02:11:45.119 --> 02:11:45.439 Brothers. 2875 02:11:45.520 --> 02:11:49.399 Caramelzov is amazing, Like for I don't know Dan, you know, 2876 02:11:49.479 --> 02:11:52.439 nor McDonald was very well read. He loved like Russian literature. 2877 02:11:52.600 --> 02:11:59.760 I will say Russian literature is like between for as 2878 02:11:59.800 --> 02:12:03.760 like high Falutin as it sounds. You read it and 2879 02:12:03.800 --> 02:12:06.439 you're like, oh shit, I get why these are classics. 2880 02:12:06.520 --> 02:12:11.920 These are hilarious, they're poignant, they're incredible stories like they're 2881 02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:14.560 they're approachable as hell, still like they're long as hell. 2882 02:12:14.680 --> 02:12:16.359 Yeah, I heard the moth joke. I get it. 2883 02:12:16.880 --> 02:12:18.720 Yeah, like that, he's just. 2884 02:12:18.680 --> 02:12:22.760 Emulating Malbakov and told Stoy with that and dol Stoevsky. 2885 02:12:22.840 --> 02:12:26.199 But like Brothers, Scarmes is unreal, Nathan, So you're already 2886 02:12:26.239 --> 02:12:27.720 on good track there. But I will also say All 2887 02:12:27.760 --> 02:12:31.760 the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Door. He wrote 2888 02:12:31.800 --> 02:12:34.079 the book Cloud at List that the movie is based on, 2889 02:12:35.159 --> 02:12:37.680 which Cloud out Lists is actually back you right now, All 2890 02:12:37.720 --> 02:12:40.479 the Light We Cannot See You You Towoul also like 2891 02:12:40.479 --> 02:12:40.920 that book. 2892 02:12:41.000 --> 02:12:43.279 It basically this. 2893 02:12:44.000 --> 02:12:47.079 War is too real. I love it when it's like 2894 02:12:47.199 --> 02:12:50.199 there's a demon and he's in the closet. 2895 02:12:50.359 --> 02:12:52.159 Wait how do you know it's about war. 2896 02:12:52.319 --> 02:12:55.399 Because anything important is usually about war. 2897 02:12:55.720 --> 02:13:00.720 And I've heard there's All the Way we Cannot see 2898 02:13:00.720 --> 02:13:03.000 is now a Netflix show that sucks, So I don't 2899 02:13:03.079 --> 02:13:07.199 watch the show. The book is equal parts Indiana Jones 2900 02:13:07.960 --> 02:13:11.279 meets like serious literature, which is what makes it great 2901 02:13:11.319 --> 02:13:13.479 because it's basically it's during World War Two. They're at 2902 02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:16.039 Mont Saint Michel. It's this, uh you can look it up. 2903 02:13:16.039 --> 02:13:18.039 It's off the coast of Normandy. There's a causeway Mary, 2904 02:13:18.079 --> 02:13:19.880 you were talking about twenty eight years later, but like 2905 02:13:20.159 --> 02:13:23.000 during high tide, you the road narrows up. 2906 02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:26.920 But maybe they read it and they were like, this 2907 02:13:26.960 --> 02:13:28.840 would be a great zombie movie. 2908 02:13:29.359 --> 02:13:33.880 Yeah, probably about high Tide. But uh no, it's it's 2909 02:13:33.880 --> 02:13:36.960 a a father who lives there with his blind daughter 2910 02:13:38.000 --> 02:13:40.000 during the war, and so like it starts off and 2911 02:13:40.039 --> 02:13:43.159 he's building like mini replicas of the city to like 2912 02:13:43.239 --> 02:13:44.640 so she could feel it and he can kind of 2913 02:13:44.680 --> 02:13:48.720 tell her what it's like. However, there's also a parallel 2914 02:13:48.760 --> 02:13:53.880 plot about a Nazi like colonel lieutenant trying to track 2915 02:13:53.920 --> 02:13:57.319 down these famous gems that went missing from the museum 2916 02:13:57.359 --> 02:13:57.920 in Paris. 2917 02:13:58.439 --> 02:14:00.000 So like it's equal part. 2918 02:14:00.039 --> 02:14:04.840 It's Indiana Jones Adventure and there's Nazis and this really 2919 02:14:04.880 --> 02:14:07.039 touching story about a father and daughter and it's just 2920 02:14:08.079 --> 02:14:10.000 it's fairly long, but I went through, I think in 2921 02:14:10.039 --> 02:14:13.680 a weekend. It's the most readable thing ever, really really good. 2922 02:14:14.000 --> 02:14:17.399 And then the daughter befriends I think a Nazi soldier. 2923 02:14:17.439 --> 02:14:18.760 If memory serves, it's really good. 2924 02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:20.159 Yeah. 2925 02:14:20.159 --> 02:14:22.960 One hundred years Solitude is like, is the is the 2926 02:14:23.079 --> 02:14:24.399 book to read before you die? 2927 02:14:24.439 --> 02:14:28.720 If anybody ever? That's my official answer for that. But anyway, 2928 02:14:28.720 --> 02:14:32.800 thank you, Nathan. That's our episode. 2929 02:14:33.000 --> 02:14:35.279 Yeah, like I said, Firescape past at gmail dot com 2930 02:14:35.520 --> 02:14:40.439 sending questions where you guys read like eight emails. 2931 02:14:40.079 --> 02:14:41.720 Again when I was gone, it looked like based on 2932 02:14:41.720 --> 02:14:42.600 the run of show, is that. 2933 02:14:44.319 --> 02:14:47.680 Dan is like, I love reading four hundred emails. 2934 02:14:47.720 --> 02:14:50.359 I love Are you doing it to get under my skin? No? 2935 02:14:51.079 --> 02:14:54.840 Never, it's never been a bit. It's just like at all, No, 2936 02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:58.600 I thought about me and I like answering emails. Pull 2937 02:14:58.640 --> 02:15:00.000 a bunch in there. Yeah. 2938 02:15:00.279 --> 02:15:03.159 Dan doesn't have an evil bone in his body. I didn't. 2939 02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:05.960 I don't even think he questions other people in his life. 2940 02:15:06.000 --> 02:15:07.520 He's just that obtuse. 2941 02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:12.880 I don't know how to take a compliment to Really, 2942 02:15:13.439 --> 02:15:14.960 I'm dizzy after that one. 2943 02:15:15.159 --> 02:15:20.840 Jesus Christ. That comment was a work of literature. 2944 02:15:21.880 --> 02:15:25.800 Just it was so thank you to wait, what is 2945 02:15:26.000 --> 02:15:27.039 Jesus Christ? 2946 02:15:27.159 --> 02:15:28.399 She's called me a dumb ass. 2947 02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:32.600 I don't know where I am. 2948 02:15:32.960 --> 02:15:34.960 That was the most Mary, you are the most vicious 2949 02:15:35.000 --> 02:15:36.960 of all three of us. And it comes out of nowhere. 2950 02:15:37.000 --> 02:15:39.640 And I've got you think I have gotten used to 2951 02:15:39.640 --> 02:15:41.319 it after ten years now, I have not. 2952 02:15:42.359 --> 02:15:44.199 It's anyway, he. 2953 02:15:44.159 --> 02:15:44.760 Didn't have a. 2954 02:15:46.439 --> 02:15:46.840 So much. 2955 02:15:46.880 --> 02:15:47.680 He's a dip ship. 2956 02:15:47.840 --> 02:15:49.800 What he's not? 2957 02:15:50.000 --> 02:16:03.640 He's not evil, he's just a uh yikes, that's our episode. 2958 02:16:04.279 --> 02:16:05.800 Try to move on. 2959 02:16:07.720 --> 02:16:09.960 I multiple friends on this one. 2960 02:16:10.039 --> 02:16:13.039 Yes, what do you have? What do you have going on? 2961 02:16:13.079 --> 02:16:17.159 Aside from reconnecting with Dina Nina Hamilton Again. 2962 02:16:17.000 --> 02:16:19.600 I'm not reconnecting with Nina. That was the whole point 2963 02:16:19.600 --> 02:16:19.840 of that. 2964 02:16:20.760 --> 02:16:26.600 I I am still streaming on Twitch every Monday. I 2965 02:16:26.640 --> 02:16:31.119 am not listening to musicals. I don't have anything else 2966 02:16:31.119 --> 02:16:32.559 that's going on in my life. 2967 02:16:34.680 --> 02:16:37.239 Okay, cool, I don't give a ship, Dan, What do 2968 02:16:37.319 --> 02:16:37.920 you got going on? 2969 02:16:38.479 --> 02:16:41.319 Giant bomb dot com that's the whole thing. Giant bomb 2970 02:16:41.360 --> 02:16:45.040 dot com, slash Join support Independent Games Media we're killing 2971 02:16:45.079 --> 02:16:47.440 it over there, and I'm about to make Jeff Grubb 2972 02:16:47.479 --> 02:16:51.440 play Jurassic Park trespasser. If you don't know what that is, 2973 02:16:52.079 --> 02:16:54.440 it's going to be a very special thing. So check 2974 02:16:54.479 --> 02:16:56.959 out giant bomb dot com and then I'm Dan Reicherd 2975 02:16:57.079 --> 02:16:57.840 on whatever. 2976 02:16:58.040 --> 02:17:02.200 So cool, Mary, I'm kind of fucking annoyed you didn't 2977 02:17:02.280 --> 02:17:04.079 mention that we're back with Resident Evil. 2978 02:17:04.280 --> 02:17:06.280 We are back with Resident. 2979 02:17:07.360 --> 02:17:09.760 Eleven months, Dan, do you know do you know the 2980 02:17:09.760 --> 02:17:10.319 context of this? 2981 02:17:10.520 --> 02:17:12.840 I saw that, like I saw people being like, holy shit, 2982 02:17:12.920 --> 02:17:14.159 a new episode. 2983 02:17:14.920 --> 02:17:19.399 They're like, I don't, I truly don't know how it 2984 02:17:19.440 --> 02:17:20.360 got eleven months. 2985 02:17:20.360 --> 02:17:21.799 So okay, it's funnier. 2986 02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:25.280 Because before reback, we got nine tenths of the way 2987 02:17:25.319 --> 02:17:27.840 through the game, like literally before the Krowsier knife fight, 2988 02:17:28.200 --> 02:17:30.799 and then just didn't post an episode. 2989 02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:31.959 For eleven months. I mean, I get it. 2990 02:17:31.959 --> 02:17:34.079 It's a miracle sometimes that we get the three of 2991 02:17:34.159 --> 02:17:35.600 us together for a few hours. 2992 02:17:35.639 --> 02:17:36.360 You know, there's a. 2993 02:17:36.319 --> 02:17:39.600 Comment there's like, yeah, there's like eleven months, y'all have 2994 02:17:39.639 --> 02:17:41.959 not been that busy, And I want to respond to like, 2995 02:17:42.000 --> 02:17:44.000 you just bought yourself another eleven months. 2996 02:17:47.399 --> 02:17:48.079 I forgot. 2997 02:17:49.440 --> 02:17:49.719 Comment. 2998 02:17:50.079 --> 02:17:51.959 No, there's yeah, there's no excuse in the world. But 2999 02:17:52.319 --> 02:17:54.520 we were busy and we did one. 3000 02:17:54.840 --> 02:17:57.200 Mary had to come back to a game. 3001 02:17:58.639 --> 02:18:01.799 It is arguably maybe the most difficult boss fight in 3002 02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:06.920 that game that she had to then krowser crowser. In 3003 02:18:06.959 --> 02:18:10.719 the remake, I would actually say, fucking Salazar is tough. 3004 02:18:11.760 --> 02:18:13.360 Changed that one, right, I haven't played. 3005 02:18:15.079 --> 02:18:17.399 They added the new arena. But then also, yeah, he 3006 02:18:17.559 --> 02:18:20.159 like puts minds all over the floor. I would actually 3007 02:18:20.159 --> 02:18:24.319 say it is not good. 3008 02:18:24.360 --> 02:18:25.879 You said that when we played it, you were like, 3009 02:18:25.879 --> 02:18:26.799 I don't care for this boss. 3010 02:18:26.799 --> 02:18:30.120 By watching, I was like, it cemented I don't like it. 3011 02:18:30.159 --> 02:18:31.079 That's a whole lot. 3012 02:18:31.440 --> 02:18:32.040 Yeah, we're back. 3013 02:18:33.239 --> 02:18:36.040 I think the finale is probably the next episode. But yeah, 3014 02:18:36.040 --> 02:18:38.319 that's that's not a paid thing. If that's just on 3015 02:18:38.360 --> 02:18:40.559 our YouTube channel to go subscribe there so you know 3016 02:18:40.559 --> 02:18:42.760 when the next one comes up, whether it's next week 3017 02:18:42.959 --> 02:18:46.159 or next year. We'll finish revenue for a remake, and 3018 02:18:46.159 --> 02:18:47.319 then we got to figure out what else because we 3019 02:18:47.319 --> 02:18:48.200 want to play other stuff. 3020 02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:50.600 Yeah, we're going to figure out the next one. 3021 02:18:51.000 --> 02:18:54.120 Revelations two is one of the lost episodes, as is 3022 02:18:54.159 --> 02:19:00.639 the what the Hell is the Jake campaign from Reznievil six. Yeah, 3023 02:19:00.680 --> 02:19:04.840 we played all the other two. We played Chris's and Leon's. 3024 02:19:05.120 --> 02:19:08.319 Yeah, we were like, mad, there's four, isn't there? 3025 02:19:08.360 --> 02:19:10.719 Four? Oh eight? Us you unlock when you're four. Yeah, 3026 02:19:11.360 --> 02:19:12.239 we haven't played rough. 3027 02:19:12.879 --> 02:19:16.319 Yeah, it was fun playing through it because we thought 3028 02:19:16.479 --> 02:19:17.639 you can share the misery. 3029 02:19:17.760 --> 02:19:17.840 No. 3030 02:19:17.959 --> 02:19:21.719 Five was the one that actually like did not talk 3031 02:19:21.760 --> 02:19:23.159 for a few days after that episode. 3032 02:19:25.000 --> 02:19:25.959 Yeah, no, that's back. 3033 02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:31.680 And then if you're listening to this, there's a new episode. 3034 02:19:31.719 --> 02:19:33.399 We were a bit late because I was traveling. But 3035 02:19:33.600 --> 02:19:35.239 Vine and I have a new Mike and Vinnie Save 3036 02:19:35.280 --> 02:19:38.120 the World up on fire Escape that is paid. You 3037 02:19:38.159 --> 02:19:40.360 have to be a video Tier member for that. And 3038 02:19:40.360 --> 02:19:44.079 then we're also playing an evil campaign over on next 3039 02:19:44.120 --> 02:19:48.440 Lander itself. If you're not a Patreon patron for next Lander, 3040 02:19:48.639 --> 02:19:49.319 you should be. 3041 02:19:49.440 --> 02:19:50.040 Those guys are. 3042 02:19:49.920 --> 02:19:52.799 Great and we've been playing those two parallel campaigns and 3043 02:19:52.840 --> 02:19:55.959 they're it's going even better than I had hoped for 3044 02:19:56.120 --> 02:20:00.600 because the campaigns are so fucking different. Uh, to struggle 3045 02:20:00.639 --> 02:20:02.159 in the fire Escape one. But I think we're turning 3046 02:20:02.159 --> 02:20:05.559 the tide finally or in episode twelve or something. That's 3047 02:20:05.639 --> 02:20:08.799 a very fun show. I like playing Warhammer with Vinny 3048 02:20:08.799 --> 02:20:12.920 in the mornings over coffee. Yeah, we'll be back in 3049 02:20:12.920 --> 02:20:15.280 two weeks. I'm gonna work on that mouse pad. 3050 02:20:16.000 --> 02:20:17.200 Yeah wait, I gotta right. 3051 02:20:17.239 --> 02:20:18.520 I mean you did say you're going to do it, 3052 02:20:18.559 --> 02:20:21.760 so I think, yeah, that'll probably be. 3053 02:20:21.760 --> 02:20:25.239 On fourth fourth Wall did reach out and say, uh, 3054 02:20:25.719 --> 02:20:27.280 do you guys, we'd love to offer you like a 3055 02:20:27.319 --> 02:20:29.479 free design. Just give us the prompt and we'll make 3056 02:20:29.520 --> 02:20:32.920 it for you. I wonder if she would ask why 3057 02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:34.600 I'm saying, hey, can you get us a mouse pad 3058 02:20:34.680 --> 02:20:36.600 that says I didn't care for Hamilton and there's a 3059 02:20:36.600 --> 02:20:38.159 moon and will world suck my dick? 3060 02:20:40.200 --> 02:20:43.239 I think I trust you to make that make it. 3061 02:20:43.319 --> 02:20:44.600 I'm just saying I don't know if we want to 3062 02:20:44.639 --> 02:20:49.319 ask fourth Wall because they reached out. 3063 02:20:49.920 --> 02:20:52.879 I wanted to do like a like it's like a stitched, 3064 02:20:53.760 --> 02:20:54.040 like a. 3065 02:20:54.000 --> 02:21:00.680 Stitch like, yeah, made it, God bless us thing. 3066 02:21:00.840 --> 02:21:03.200 Yeah, yeah, God bless this mess type situation. 3067 02:21:03.319 --> 02:21:06.280 Yeah yeah, okay, I live laugh love sweet. 3068 02:21:07.000 --> 02:21:08.959 Yeah, we'll be back in two weeks the next episode 3069 02:21:09.000 --> 02:21:11.479 Fire Skreet What episode is this like one hundred and 3070 02:21:11.479 --> 02:21:12.479 thirteen something? 3071 02:21:12.760 --> 02:21:14.040 Sure you could sell anything. 3072 02:21:14.920 --> 02:21:15.959 I think I will go back. 3073 02:21:17.520 --> 02:21:20.479 We'll be back with episode one hundred and thirty four 3074 02:21:20.799 --> 02:21:23.319 in a couple of weeks until then. 3075 02:21:24.559 --> 02:21:25.719 I feel like we're missing something. 3076 02:21:25.920 --> 02:21:26.799 Are we stay hot? 3077 02:21:27.799 --> 02:21:28.079 Mary? 3078 02:21:28.239 --> 02:21:29.840 Mary usually fucks up the merch. 3079 02:21:30.520 --> 02:21:32.559 Stay wet, Yes, stay wet. 3080 02:21:32.920 --> 02:21:37.239 Yeah, yikes, that's a that would be a good mass 3081 02:21:37.239 --> 02:21:37.680 pad too. 3082 02:21:38.120 --> 02:21:40.559 Just yeah, make the while you're in the back the 3083 02:21:41.639 --> 02:21:42.639 wet Yeah. 3084 02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:46.120 Old, Then where's our emails? 3085 02:21:46.159 --> 02:21:47.159 I want to be I want to be. 3086 02:21:47.239 --> 02:21:51.680 Yeah, I want to be cremated unless my wife agrees 3087 02:21:52.719 --> 02:21:54.719 to put a shirt on my dead body at the 3088 02:21:54.719 --> 02:21:57.680 open casket wake and the shirt just says stay wet. 3089 02:21:57.719 --> 02:21:59.680 But no, Dick hanging out, no. 3090 02:22:01.639 --> 02:22:04.879 Figure out how to make me e wrecked when I'm dead. 3091 02:22:04.559 --> 02:22:07.360 They do the taxidy people can totally do that. 3092 02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:10.280 Absolutely, no, no, no, no, no, I'm saying I need something. 3093 02:22:11.200 --> 02:22:14.639 Meldehyde playing above your dead face. 3094 02:22:14.959 --> 02:22:17.760 I want a fluffer at my funeral to make sure 3095 02:22:17.799 --> 02:22:18.840 I stay hard when I'm dead. 3096 02:22:18.920 --> 02:22:19.159 Church. 3097 02:22:19.719 --> 02:22:25.680 That's how Dick's work dis work. Happy anniversary, Debbie and Darryl. 3098 02:22:25.799 --> 02:22:27.040 We're so happy for you. 3099 02:22:27.360 --> 02:22:30.680 Crazy yeah good way, not crazy. 3100 02:22:30.840 --> 02:22:41.120 Not in a weird way, but in a supportive way. 3101 02:22:40.000 --> 02:22:49.760 Debora, Daryl happy Universo, deb and I enjoy enjoy a 3102 02:22:50.120 --> 02:22:58.639 sauce the band. I hope they sing wander Wang, we'll 3103 02:22:58.639 --> 02:22:59.600 see you next episode. 3104 02:22:59.639 --> 02:23:02.879 By Hamilton. People marries the enemy Shamblton. 3105 02:23:04.440 --> 02:23:08.959 He's called Shamilton Hamilton. Hamilton is funny. 3106 02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:11.399 That's what Mary said. 3107 02:23:11.639 --> 02:23:14.840 Yeah, you're gonna get You're gonna get fucking Hamilton hate 3108 02:23:15.440 --> 02:23:18.760 some little theater, the little gonna get me. 3109 02:23:20.760 --> 02:23:22.239 Yeah, they're gonna sing insults that. 3110 02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:25.120 She's a bit. 3111 02:23:27.159 --> 02:23:33.280 Exactly how I go? Yeah, are we out? I already? 3112 02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:34.559 Did you kept the stuffer? 3113 02:23:38.440 --> 02:23:44.680 H h 3114 02:23:47.120 --> 02:24:00.399 H