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Speaker 1: What's Gucci? Stanley Tucci?

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Speaker 2: You can't do that?

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Speaker 1: What would you rather me say?

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Speaker 2: Do another thing that rhymes right now? Don't think about it.

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Speaker 3: What's what's happening? Cap Cape land chappinin Fuck?

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Speaker 2: That was way worse.

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Speaker 1: No, I was really good.

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Speaker 2: Do another one now, Hey, everybody, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: To fire Escape. I'm Stanley Tucci. That's Dan Riker.

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Speaker 2: It's not you're lying. I'm Dan. I I mean yes,

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And Hi, Stanley, I love the food or whatever you do.

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Speaker 1: And Mary Kish, who's Stanley Tucci ring show or something?

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So he's a famous actor. But now but now I'm confused.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a searching for Italy like travel food

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show on HBO.

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Speaker 4: Now he has a line.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Thing kind of blew up because he was doing like

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kitchen videos on his own and people like just love

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hearing him say anything.

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Speaker 5: I know who this is.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at his dress. Well, I'm looking at his

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U his IMDb right now, I don't know if I've

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seen anything he's in. Oh, the Core, I've seen the core.

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Speaker 1: I think Devil Wears Prada was probably his breakout.

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Speaker 5: Beethoven, Oh my gosh, it's so good.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe you even't seen Devil war I.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen The Devil Wears Prada.

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Speaker 4: Say that you did a Red Box letter show where

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you reviewed movies.

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Speaker 5: I figured you had seen a very good movie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's what a romantic comedy and it's about fashion.

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That's like two things that would be like kryptonite for me.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a rom com, is it. It's

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it's like I.

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Speaker 2: Think I'm the audience for it, right.

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Speaker 4: No, actually, don't think it's a rom there's really almost

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no rom in it. It's mostly a comedy and it's

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mostly calm. It's about like a girl who doesn't really

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know anything about fashion in getting eaten alive by like

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a fashion world boss who's like a total bitch and

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a half.

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Speaker 3: Wait, what's who's the who's the boss? Why am I

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blanking on her name? Like most famous act ever?

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Speaker 2: It's not our friend Helen Mirren.

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Speaker 3: It's not her, no other white hair Meryl Meryl Street

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straight close.

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Speaker 1: And Anne Hathaway is the like intern.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean, if it's about passion, there's no

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chance in hell I ever have seen it.

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Speaker 4: It's really good, actually quite funny, but it's comedy. It's comedy.

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It's it's a comedy first. I just think that's a

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it's a mistaken advertising. It's actually it's comedy first.

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Speaker 2: You two seem naked.

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Speaker 1: Gun No.

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Speaker 3: But I saw your comment about it being the funniest

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thing you've seen since mcgroober.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. I have to see this for myself. I

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think you would love it.

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Speaker 2: I think it is number two only to mcgroober for me,

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and it's, you know, another Lonely Island directed and written movie.

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But holy shit, I think both of you would fucking

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love it. And I will watch this movie many more

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times in my life, probably with you guys at some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's watch it around Game of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, if you guys don't wait that long, I'll

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do it. Like it's I'm just like forty jokes because

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I was still laughing at the previous ones.

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Speaker 4: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glaam Mason's game for all of it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's incredible.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad it's so funny too, because like the last

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thing that Liam Neeson was in that was funny was

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that bit that skit where he was like, I want

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to get into comedy and it's like super awkward and

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funny because he shouldn't be doing comedies because he's like

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known for Schindler's List and really serious roles.

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Speaker 2: But that's what he's around her for it that I know. Yeah,

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I mean that's what Lee uh Leslie Nielsen was a

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serious actor.

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Speaker 1: And no, I I I shouldn't joke about Schindler's List,

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I guess. But there's a.

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Speaker 2: Sign that's a great winning a sentence. There's this Sign episode.

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Speaker 3: Where Jerry's newman catches Jerry making out with his Jewish

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girlfriend during Schindler's List at the theater.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. Do you think it holds up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, it's in black and white, which I know

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you hate.

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Speaker 2: Well, but like for a reason, right, like don't they

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show or something I haven't seen many black and white

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movies or movies with subtitles.

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Speaker 5: Subtitles are really like, that's so limiting for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know it's because I remember I found that

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like Google doc I made like fifteen years ago, and

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it was like, here's one hundred and one things I

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want to do in the next thousand and one days,

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and like one of the only ones I didn't accomplish

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was watch a movie with subtitles.

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Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, it's that a hard thing I have.

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Speaker 2: I've read language movies everything everywhere, all at once. I

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did in Bonk, and I have watched lams like the

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Seventh Samurai. I haven't seen Pants Labyrinth, so like I'm

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more worldly now, but definitely like ten years ago, I

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don't think i'd read.

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Speaker 4: There's so many horror movies, remember how like I recommended

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a horror movie like, Oh, it really opens up if

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you're willing to get into subtitles because there's some fucked

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up and really good scary horror movies from like you know,

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in other languages, and they're super worth watching.

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Speaker 1: I probably should.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we watched Amanda and her cousin was staying with

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us and we watched those two watched Barbarian with me for.

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Speaker 1: The first time.

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Speaker 2: Nice blind. It was going to blind.

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Speaker 1: They had no idea what it was about.

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Speaker 5: They're really squirming in their seats.

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Speaker 4: There's like a distinct moment where everyone I think, just

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curls up into a ball because you're so freaked out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also I mean, it's been out for a while,

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but I still don't want it.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen no don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't say anything about

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I want.

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Speaker 3: To watching two other people watch it, oh seeing them

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like trying to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about Weapons, the new one by that director,

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and I don't really know anything about it, so probably

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just going to blind to that one as.

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Speaker 1: Well, just seeing the trailer. Did you see the trailer?

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Speaker 2: I might have trailer seeing it like months ago in

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a theater or something, but like before I knew it,

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so like if they if I did, I forgot everything.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it holds any weight or if

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it's just a rumor. But I had heard read that

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like Jordan Peele was trying really hard to get the

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rights to the script, but this director either beat him out.

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Speaker 1: Somehow, oh well beat him off.

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Speaker 3: But did you know the director of Barbarian and Weapons

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is like that is a dude from the Whitest Kids,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a sketch writer and performer.

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Speaker 3: Funny Yeah, yeah, which is there's maybe like off cam

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I wanted I was. I didn't remember how funny parts

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of Barbarian were, Like there there's the man. Yeah. I

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really don't want to talk about yeah, this is bad radio.

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I'll talk to well after when we're offline. I'll uh,

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I'll tell you. But I was laughing so fucking hard. Yeah,

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and then, uh, I want to see Naked Gun really badly,

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but I guess I can wait.

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Speaker 2: I cannot say enough about it, and nothing I say

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would would do it justice other than you two will

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love it.

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Speaker 1: And I will. Yeah, I'll keep watching that movie anytime.

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's like an hour twenty five In every

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twenty seconds there's a fucking joke that lands, like it

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and they all land for the most part.

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Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. Did I read there's another OJ joke

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in this one too?

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Speaker 2: The trailer one one the trailer.

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen the trailer, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Keep it that way. Yeah, yeah, there's a good Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I remember the original one. OJ was in the movie

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right at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, he was like, yeah, he was a big

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part of the original. Yeah, and yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's falling into like a wedding cake in the dock. Oh,

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it's like putting stuck.

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Speaker 2: In a bucket. He falls out a window and gets

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shot a million times, and like, yeah, that's great, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: That's just in the physical comedy. I'm excited to see that.

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Speaker 4: I saw twenty eight years later.

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Speaker 1: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: That's where I put my time this weekend.

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Speaker 5: I liked it. I just found the ending to be

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so confusing.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember that because I saw it and

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because like, I'm not normally a horror movie guy or zombie,

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and I hadn't seen the first two movies, and I'm trying.

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Speaker 4: It's just one of the uh.

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Speaker 2: Know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's necessary. I just I was shocked

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that that's the direction they went with it. But I

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think it's very ark and brooding and very much in

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line the film with the first movie. People who like

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twenty eight days Later, most people are like, the first

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one's great. Second one's like bad and can not very good,

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Speaker 5: It's entertaining, but I don't think it's good.

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Speaker 4: The intro sequence is phenomenal, but like that is not

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the film. And then this new one, the movie is

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like really dark and brooding and it's it's it's got

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such an awesome premise, which I don't think is a

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spoiler to say, Like they basically like live on an

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island is to walk on this like tiny little sand pathway,

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and then it's covered by water, you know, during high tides,

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so you only get a couple hours where you can

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actually get to this island every day. And I find

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that so entertaining, so interesting to me. And they have like,

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you know, like a whole island system of Oh, I'm

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the baker and I'm the person who makes the tools,

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and I'm the teacher. Like they have a whole world

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on this island, but they have to leave the island

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to get resources.

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Speaker 1: Love that.

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Speaker 4: I think like a video game zombie with a yeah,

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zombie movie with like an excellent plot is really appealing

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to me. So I really did enjoy it, and I

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was I was glad that I watched. It was either

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that or going to the movies and seeing weapons, and

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I was like, well, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to. Oh, twenty eight years later is streaming now, Yes.

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Speaker 4: The comfort of my living room.

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Speaker 1: Let me.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask Mary a question about the ending,

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So past forward like a minute if you want wait

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I don't want to hear this, Okay, Mary, do you

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know what they were dressed like at the end?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that was about?

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Speaker 4: I mean they all look like little religious figures.

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Speaker 2: It's a very specific reference from Britain. Do you know

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Jimmy Saville, Jimmy Seville, the Master? Okay, there's a whole

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Netflix documentary about him, like like oh shit, beyond Cosby

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level monster, like, but he was a huge part of

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Speaker 4: Guy was like wearing all of his religious stuffs of

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the people that I grew up watching like old British

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coming up in like like six months or something like that.

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Speaker 2: So it's like I was like, what the fuck is this?

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I didn't realize there's until Lucy. Lucy was like, oh,

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the difference between people who grew up in the UK

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and the people who didn't grow up in the UK

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don't and it's like, oh shit, I've seen that was Yeah,

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he's look up Jimmy Saville, and twenty eight years later

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it's actually like pretty fucking interesting.

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Speaker 1: So all right, everyone's be come on back, Come on back,

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Come on back.

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Speaker 3: Be so fucking funny if you've told me to come

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back and then as soon as I put them on,

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you just spoiled everything.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: That'd be funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to watch that. I also need

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to see the Phoenician scheme new Wes Anderson. Yeah, I

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cannot wait for one battle after another.

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Speaker 1: One battle.

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Speaker 3: It's the Paul Thomas Anderson's sex movie with Leo DiCaprio

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and Benicio del Toro. So it's based on a book.

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I think Jake is reading it. Jake has do you

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guys know how Jake does this thing where any book

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that a PTA movie is based on he reads.

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Speaker 1: So he read oil exclamation.

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Speaker 3: Point and yeah, yeah, so he's reading. I think this

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is based It's not a Thomas Pinsion book, but like

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in Harar and Vice was. But yeah, either way, it

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looks very fucking funny. It's like a modern day rebel

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uprising in l A, I think, but like Benicio Latro

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is Leo's sense, but Leo is just a total fucking

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slob in the trailer.

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Speaker 4: Oh this sounds great, like a real piece of ship.

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Speaker 3: Where it's like those one battle after the neck. Okay,

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one battle after another.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, I'm very interested in this.

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Speaker 3: Immediately sunglass he's wearing like the gators or whatever they're called,

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the sunglasses.

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Speaker 2: But like everyone you're reaching is being part of it.

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I'm just like, Okay, that sounds excellent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't think I dislike any of

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Paul Thomas Anderson's movie Thread.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that movie. That's don't again.

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Speaker 2: It seems like it was about fashion, and I was like,

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I don't think I'm the audience for this.

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Speaker 3: It's about fashion in the same way like The Wrestler

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is about wrestling. Like it's pretty good wrestling movie, you right,

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Like they go deep on, but the movie is about

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much more than that.

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Speaker 1: It's this.

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Speaker 3: It's about like this literally, I it's kind of spoiler

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to say literally, but it's a toxic relationship between Daniel

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day Lewis and the actor.

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Speaker 2: I do love Damian day Lewis and and Taul Thomas Anderson.

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Speaker 1: So I think you'd like it it, eh.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't know. I can't recommend a wholeheartedly. I

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mean I don't. I don't like to recommend things lest

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some positive The Land. Well, okay, I know you hated

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Magnolia though, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciate when something that weird exists, Like

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I love it when people spend a whole lot of

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money on shit that's just bonkers, like you know, see

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my Kajima obsession and everything. So I appreciate it. I

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did not enjoy watching it, really, Okay, fair enough, it's

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really long. I love The Master though. It's one of

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my favorite movies. I never saw that either.

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Speaker 1: That movie. You should watch that before you watch Phantom Thread.

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Speaker 2: I remember that's just kind of middling reviews. So I

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didn't wind up seeing it.

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Speaker 1: I fucking I think it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: It's Philip Seymour Hoffman and Jaquin Phoenix just trying to

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out act each other.

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Speaker 1: That sounds fun. It's and they're like.

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Speaker 3: People talk about how good Phillip seymore Hoffin is in

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that he's basically playing l Ron Hubbard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like.

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Speaker 3: Joaquin Phoenix, I would actually say Jaquin Phoenix, I think,

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to be reductive and just compare them. I think Jaquin

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Phoenix is better in that movie. He plays such a

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fucking weirdo, a dude who's like clearly got PTSD from

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world War two before they knew what that actually.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they knew what that was back then,

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they might have, but like, he's fucked up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, the movie's amazing, and it's just basically like

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if l Ron Hubbard got consistently called out for the

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inaccuracies in his teachings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hew full of shit like Phillip Semore.

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Speaker 3: Hoffin's character is kind of a stand in for like

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l Ron Hubbard or like any.

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Speaker 1: I guess church leader. But yeah, he it's it's awesome.

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I like that movie. I think it's twenty twelve that

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came out when I was at Game and Former Sure. Nice, yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for one battle after the next whatever

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it's called. What else have you guys been up to?

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Speaker 2: Well, Mary like a month? Well yeah, Mary had a

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suggestion for you. I remember I watched a couple of

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weeks ago, but we didn't wind up talking about it.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of movies, I've been trying to get everybody to

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watch K Pop Demon Hunters because I was shocked with

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my reaction to it, and I was curious what you

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guys thought.

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Speaker 1: I will say I did not watch it.

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Speaker 3: If you want to wait I promise I will watch

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it by next episode. I told you guys before this,

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I've had like a migraine building up all day, so

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it's trying not to look at screens as much as

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I could. If you want to talk about it now,

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I'll go for it, but I will watch it by

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next episode.

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Speaker 1: If you want to hold off. Up to you Mary, up.

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Speaker 5: To you, Dan, what'd you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it.

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Speaker 3: It was a process for me, and I get the

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premise quick, so I like, what is it? Because Mary's like, Mike,

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can you watch this by tennight? Was like, I'll try,

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But what the fuck is K pop Demon Hunters?

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Speaker 1: Mary? Do you want to? Sure?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 4: It's a K pop oh yeah group? And they also

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hunt demons?

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Speaker 1: Is in anime?

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Speaker 5: It isn't?

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Speaker 4: It is a musical anime? Well cartoons. I'm gonna just

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I'm gonna classify it as CG cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And there is then a rival K pop group.

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Speaker 4: Of men that start competing with them, and then they

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find out that the K pop competing group of boys

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are demons, and then they have to K pop fight

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their way out of who's going to win the crowd

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because if the demons win, they're gonna suck the souls

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of all the fans. But the girls are losing their popularity,

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and they're also fighting amongst themselves, and one of the

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girls likes one of the boys.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, like a capula in a Montague is a bit.

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Speaker 4: Like a Montague situation.

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Speaker 1: Dan, that's a naked gun reference. I'm surprise you can't

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catch you.

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Speaker 2: That's Romeo and Juliet. I'm a red man.

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Speaker 1: What oh r e a d Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Read a book?

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Speaker 1: What about it?

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Speaker 3: Kind of sounded had Scott Pilgrim vibes the premise to

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what you were saying, Like, I hate that movie.

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Speaker 2: I hate everything Scott Pilgrim so fucking much. Yeah, I

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remember the worst.

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Speaker 3: Also when I was a game for him, I remember

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that movie was still like people were obsessed with it.

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Speaker 2: Just lame emo nerd bait ship. Just wasn't funny, like

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just nerds suck. Yeah, just everyone was dorking out about it.

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Just dumb nerd bait ship.

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Speaker 1: You know what I do when I see nerds, I

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give him.

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Speaker 3: I give him Swirly USA over here, brother fucking Swirly

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Central Russia for me heading the toilet feet in the clouds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, died as he lived.

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Speaker 3: Had the toilet geez, no I died giving someone Oh

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I see okay, Mary.

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Speaker 2: It was an uphill battle, uh for us because if

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there's three things okay, so me and Bank, like I wasn't.

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I didn't think we're gonna have time to watch because

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like Tuesday night was the only night that I would

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have been able to do it. And it's usually me

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and Bunks movie night. And I was like, you know,

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Mary was really giving me the hard cell. I'm like,

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and we didn't have anything locked in. I was like,

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do you wanna do you want to try this? No,

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she was just like, let's do it. I was ready

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to write it off.

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Speaker 1: She was like, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: But and I went in blind and it's I'm telling

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me that before the title it did numerous things that

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is just kryptonite to me and Bunk. We don't I mean,

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we don't really know anything about K pop. I don't

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think we've ever seen I could probably point out K

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pop and a police lineup, but like we've never taken

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it in. No, and then like we don't like musicals,

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like you know, Bunk and I saw Hamilton and Dear

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Evan Hanson and all that, and like well, we don't

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like musicals at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, you didn't like Hamilton? No, I mean I literally

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did not like. I know, I don't like you. I know,

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I just really lame, like I left.

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Speaker 2: I just it's so the raps are the lamest shit

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I've ever seen in my likes.

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Speaker 1: Does Alex Bonyelo know that?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's He was texting me in the last

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few weeks trying to explain musicals to me. It's like,

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I trust me, it's not going.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Hamilton and lin Manuel Miranda, Alex Boniello is

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on the the the I.

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Speaker 1: Don't even know how you describe it. Basically, lin Manuel Miranda.

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Speaker 3: They revived The Warriors, Yeah, as an audio musical, and

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Alex Bannelo plays a character on it.

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Speaker 1: He sings, yeah, oh what does he say?

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Speaker 3: He's got a really funny line. He's like, I'm not

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here to I got to look it up.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'll let me you keep talking. I'm gonna

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find it's a really funny one.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, No, But to give Hamilton some credit, I

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do remember leaving the theater that night and thinking like, well,

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those people are good at their jobs. So that's probably

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the nicest thing I have to say about Hamilton. But

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we don't like musicals. We don't know anything about K pop,

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and we don't like anything that's meant for kids, you know,

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like Disney stuff. We don't seek out, you know, Like

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it's just like and so we go in blind red flags. Yeah,

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we go in blind and ride away. Just like the

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art style and the tone. I'm just kind of like, Okay,

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here we fucking go. And then it was the moment

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they're on the plane at the beginning and they start

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fucking singing as they're fighting, and I just turned to Bonks,

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I'm like, are we gonna be able to do this?

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Is this like I know, even doing this for Mary?

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I know it would be so we can talk about it,

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but like, fuck, they're singing, they're making Quippi fucking Marvel

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type jokes and stuff, and it's like, oh boy, this

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and give bank credit. They're like, not me for like

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she was like, no, let's let's see it through. You know.

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Speaker 5: Is this why she unfollowed me on?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah? I know she had she had a whole

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tirade ready for her and she's like, all just follow

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her up my tongue.

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Speaker 5: No, no, she did it. I give her credit, she's

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she's more open minded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's just one of those things where it's like

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I can't separate in my head with musicals, Like I've

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never understood why a character would be singing like people

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don't do that.

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Speaker 5: Well they're K pop stars. Does that help?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing is, So if it's like this like

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in universe thing where it's like, oh, actually they do

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00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:04,240
kind of explain it, it does help a little bit,

469
00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:06,640
because I always do struggle if it's like a Broadway

470
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,960
thing or a Disney movie or something, and it's like,

471
00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:11,759
why aren't you just saying what you feel? Why are

472
00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:13,440
you seeing? Why isn't anyone think it's weird that you're

473
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,839
just singing out of nowhere? Yeah? I do not fucking

474
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,079
understand it. My brain doesn't track with it. But as

475
00:20:19,079 --> 00:20:21,640
it went on, there was every once in a while, okay,

476
00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:24,160
a little chuckle here, little chuckle there, a little like

477
00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:26,480
as like, oh, that fight seems actually really well put together.

478
00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:28,599
I think the first time I started kind of chuckling

479
00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:30,880
and bunked to two was like when the rival boy

480
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,359
K pop band shows up and like, you know, the

481
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,079
girls are all like their eyes are popcorn coming out

482
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,000
and like the ab stuff was really funny. And then

483
00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:41,400
we both started like really laughing with that weird cat

484
00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:42,880
with the like bird.

485
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Speaker 4: Like when the cat.

486
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: Knocking stuff over and everything. We were both like, okay,

487
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,759
we're both like openly laughing right now at this And

488
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,440
by the end, I will say, and the animation is incredible.

489
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,880
It is undeniably incredible. By the end, I did not

490
00:20:57,079 --> 00:20:58,319
hate it. It looks like I.

491
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Speaker 1: Did not hate it.

492
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Speaker 2: I gave it three stars out of five, the same

493
00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:06,640
score I gave President John Cena and Prime Minister Address

494
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,960
Alba movie I get higher than Happy Gilmore too.

495
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: I gave it to like, you.

496
00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:13,079
Speaker 5: Know, I would be Gilmore.

497
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Speaker 4: Two sucks.

498
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Speaker 2: That's the thing is like when I saw it near it.

499
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,960
When I saw it, I was like, all right, the

500
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,240
bar was low. I was expecting nothing from it. But

501
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,200
then it's like I got a couple of little chuckles

502
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,400
out of it, so it's like, all right, that wouldn't

503
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,079
be bad. And then I saw Naked Gun, I'm like,

504
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,960
oh right, comedies can be brilliant.

505
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,039
Speaker 4: You know totally what comedy is.

506
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think speaking of I found the line oh

507
00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:35,519
Alex Banielo on the album he plays a character named Luther,

508
00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:39,559
and at one point he has a line lyric I

509
00:21:39,599 --> 00:21:40,599
didn't come to make friends.

510
00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: I came to make your dad shit his depends.

511
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 4: Wait sorry, is it a rap like the other one? Uh?

512
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,559
Speaker 3: There's like there's definitely some hip hop vibes to it,

513
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,920
but not not like on the level of Hamilton.

514
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how anyone could ever hear Lynn ma

515
00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:02,920
Newill Miranda say or sing anything and think this is cool.

516
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,039
Speaker 3: I like this, they will say, I will say Lin

517
00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:09,559
Manuel is my least favorite part of Hamilton.

518
00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: NI Mike Manatti un ironically says that Lynn Manuel Miranda

519
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,880
is his favorite rapper.

520
00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:19,799
Speaker 3: I think he's really smarmy. He's everything I've heard. He

521
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:21,119
sounds like a wonderful human being.

522
00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:21,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

523
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, Butello is good friends with them. I

524
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,240
wondering separation. I've heard nothing about him. Yeah, No, I

525
00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:30,039
just don't like you stuff. I'm sure you're great. It

526
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,759
just seems like everything you do for your life's work

527
00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:38,160
seems insufferable. Oh yeah, even children, Like who is the

528
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,440
potential audience here just doing like a weird dumb like

529
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,880
YouTube rap level? Like my name missus Hamilton, I'm here to.

530
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: Say I shot a guy.

531
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,559
Speaker 2: Like it's like, are people like fucking with me and

532
00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:52,720
saying this is good? It's in him?

533
00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: Amazing.

534
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: I've I've genuinely not heard anybody that dislikes him, Like the.

535
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,559
Speaker 4: United States are fucking with You're a.

536
00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: Man in humor and like, wait, please, I'm gonna try

537
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,240
to be open minded the ear what I'm gonna try,

538
00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:12,920
But you're so so it's so stupid to me. It

539
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,720
feels like the universe is playing a prank on me. Like,

540
00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:17,640
what do you like about Hamilton?

541
00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: I think the lyrics are incredible. I think the characters

542
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,039
are extremely deep. I think it's heart wrenching at parts.

543
00:23:24,079 --> 00:23:27,519
I think it's hilarious. I think it's like it's it's

544
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:33,000
just vibrating with electric Like I don't know, I've never

545
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:34,839
been asked what do I like about Hamilton?

546
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: You think you know someone I know I love? This

547
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,279
might be grounds.

548
00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:43,039
Speaker 1: Are you surprised I like musicals?

549
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: Not I mean specifically Hamilton. It seems so lame.

550
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,279
Speaker 1: Oh this guy likes musicals who has this book on

551
00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:52,920
his book? I know you're a fucking whine dude, but like.

552
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: I associate Broadway with like theater kids stuff and you

553
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:00,440
number struck me as a theater you know.

554
00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: I Oh, to be clear, I've I've been to one

555
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,839
Broadway show.

556
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,319
Speaker 3: It was King Kong because they had an animatronic giant

557
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,000
gorilla lean over the audience.

558
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: It was cool. I loved it. Apparently the show was bad.

559
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,559
I didn't know enough about theater.

560
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,839
Speaker 4: But but people say Hamilton like broke Through, Like it's

561
00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:19,559
not just something that thee like or musical people like

562
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,119
Hamilton was so beloved it became pop culture. It tapped

563
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,720
into a vein of people who wanted to experience history

564
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:28,839
in a not boding back then.

565
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they sang.

566
00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:33,799
Speaker 2: I'm tried to temper myself a little bit because I

567
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:35,880
was kind of talking about musical ago there.

568
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't give a ship whether you like Hamilton. He

569
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,079
asked me a question for me for myself.

570
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,079
Speaker 2: I'm trying to temper myself because a few weeks ago

571
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,599
I found myself getting heated about musicals and giant bomb

572
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,519
and Bank was watching and texted me and he's like,

573
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,599
you're being very Paul Record right now. And I'm like,

574
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,599
oh shit, she's right, but.

575
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: You don't have to like Okay, Actually, I have a question.

576
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,279
Have you seen the movie on Hulu. It's a Hulu

577
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:59,680
originally like theater Camp. No, okay, hmmm.

578
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:02,279
Speaker 1: Trying to weigh whether I was in.

579
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: Theater classes in high school. I loved it. I acted

580
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,799
in school and tell you until they started doing singing

581
00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:10,559
and I was like, I'm completely out of this. Like

582
00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:12,759
even as a teenager, I was like, this is insane.

583
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: I uh, I'm a terrible singer. But I was not

584
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,839
a theater kid. I will say theater Camp on Hulu

585
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,799
reminds me of Palm Springs. It's one of those, like

586
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,920
Hula original overlooked gems. You should watch theater Camp. It's

587
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,480
really funny.

588
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,839
Speaker 1: I just give it, don't. You don't have to be

589
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,720
you don't have to be in a theater.

590
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 4: I'm not in the music Disney like uh, Little Mermaid

591
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,240
when you were growing you know what?

592
00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: And I was the right Disney age. I like Little

593
00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:46,960
I never liked Beating the Beast. I didn't get that.

594
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,920
I liked Little Mermaid. I liked Lion King, and I

595
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,960
like to like my guest, be my guest, the Simpson's version.

596
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,599
Speaker 5: But sure, yeah, I'll take it.

597
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,319
Speaker 1: But my best you like a Latin because Jasmine was bid. Yeah,

598
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,119
I wasn't too.

599
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: I was six, you know, like I I never ever

600
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,160
went back and watched those movies. I think, like, I

601
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,799
can't imagine that now, But.

602
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: When did the thing happen in your brain? Where childhood?

603
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:16,839
Speaker 1: Eight eight?

604
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, why the are they singing? Like even

605
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,640
as a child, you know, and do you.

606
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,319
Speaker 1: Spend much of your life playing Nintendo games? I don't think.

607
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,559
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, I know not that you.

608
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: Can't be an adult like Nintendo games.

609
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: But you get no, No, it wasn't someone who played games.

610
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:33,640
I could probably make the exact same argument about Mario.

611
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,839
You're a little cartoon plumber guy and you're yeah, But

612
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,319
it's just something about the singing, Like I'm not someone

613
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,799
who thinks that stuff for kids can't be good or

614
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:44,400
have value or anything like that. I just think, specifically

615
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,559
my brain, this is just a me thing. I can't

616
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,400
get over the fact that, like, why the fuck are

617
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,200
they singing right now?

618
00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Nobody does?

619
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 5: Have you seen in canto?

620
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:53,599
Speaker 2: No?

621
00:26:54,759 --> 00:26:55,279
Speaker 5: In canto?

622
00:26:55,599 --> 00:27:00,759
Speaker 4: A lot of people compare to like modern did the

623
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,720
like Lion.

624
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 5: King a movie songs?

625
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a Disney movie with you know, cartoon people

626
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,640
who are going through ship and then sometimes they're singing,

627
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,319
but the songs are pretty good.

628
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: But why wouldn't they if they're going through why wouldn't

629
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,160
they just talk about it and have a scene about it?

630
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,839
And I'm sad, you.

631
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:22,799
Speaker 3: Know, like I just thought that the theater goes back

632
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,720
far far into history when like singing, it wasn't like

633
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,920
a weird thing, like that's how they told stories as

634
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,440
with a side.

635
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I went to my therapist today and saying,

636
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,039
you know, like.

637
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: It's nothing going to be realistic, like you just you

638
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,200
you just played a game where a guy fucking drops

639
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,000
people into some ink to so their bodies don't blow

640
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:47,319
up and torch the earth.

641
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool.

642
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: When I turned date, I realized it just wasn't real.

643
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't, like that's the thing they're not saying.

644
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,799
Speaker 2: I actually got there is actually like a music I was.

645
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,279
Speaker 1: Gonna say, the puppet scene, like you can have him

646
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:04,359
I'm around.

647
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: No, they got even more music stuff and.

648
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,599
Speaker 5: They sing happy birthday to you.

649
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing, Happy birthday.

650
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: That's the thing people do well exactly exactly. Why don't

651
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,079
you just go up to someone when you hand them

652
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:19,000
a cake on their birthday and say happy Birthday?

653
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: Why do you sing it?

654
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,519
Speaker 2: I guess it's a tradition. It's a fun thing.

655
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:25,839
Speaker 5: There you go, The keyword was fun.

656
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: I do realize this is fully just my dad, because

657
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,680
it's like I was asking about that, you know, that

658
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,440
Saturday Night movie that came out about Saturday Night Live,

659
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:34,359
And I thought like, oh, man, dad's such a big

660
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,400
doork for like old SNL stuff, Like I bet he'd

661
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640
love this Saturday Night Live movie. And I asked him,

662
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,880
like have you seen it? He's like, oh, the one

663
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,680
with all the fake people. And I was like, what

664
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,640
do you mean. He's like, yeah, the fake people playing

665
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,599
the real people. And I was like, yeah, chevy Chase

666
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,640
is like eighty, He's not going to play himself in

667
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,119
nineteen seventy five, So.

668
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,279
Speaker 3: What is Chevy Chase doing in all his movies playing

669
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:51,839
other people?

670
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

671
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not saying this makes sense. It's a good

672
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,359
way to think. I'm just saying it's how I think.

673
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,799
Speaker 3: John Belushi is not actually a pimp when he popped

674
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:04,880
his mouth in Animal House? What is Why do I

675
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,559
Why do I spend so much time explaining things to you?

676
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: And that's what every friend of mine has been saying

677
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,279
for many years, like it's not right. I know, I

678
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:16,319
know it's stupid. I'm in the minority here, but it's

679
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,799
just like, don't like musicals, to be clear, I don't care.

680
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:21,559
Speaker 3: Music.

681
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: Not being stoked about musicals in general, which I like,

682
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:28,000
I think is just like a personal preference of yours

683
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,359
and specifically.

684
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 5: Hating Lin Manuel.

685
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,279
Speaker 2: Okay, if it committed musical present, if if it's a

686
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,079
play about the life of Alexander Hamilton and the duel

687
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,039
and all that stuff, would be great, that's fine. But

688
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,240
then it's like every time, like you'd hear the music

689
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,799
Starred and something, it's just like, here we fucking go.

690
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,640
You're gonna sing a fucking song about it, Like.

691
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: The lyrics are incredible?

692
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,279
Speaker 2: Okay to me either or not subjective?

693
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, it's not James Mayard Keene or where the

694
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,240
fuck his name is?

695
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: What the tool guy? Oh that tool? Me beyond that tool.

696
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:02,599
I love tool. I thought it was me and you

697
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,119
that liked it.

698
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: Sorry, Banca was a I didn't mean to shoot that

699
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:07,640
stray bullet at you.

700
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I you don't have to like musicals, to be clear,

701
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,880
even Book.

702
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 2: Of Mormon, like I like Trey Parker Matt's own stuff.

703
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,200
I love south Park to America all that stuff, and like.

704
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,119
Speaker 4: I, yeah, there's a lot of musicals in there.

705
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: South Park hasn't been relevant for twenty years, that's what

706
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:24,359
I hear. Yeah, actually, yeah, I think it might be

707
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:30,799
relevant again finally. Yeah, well yeah, but when when it's cartoons, so, like,

708
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,839
you know, like South Park. I love the South Park

709
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,640
movie and it's straight up a musical. I bought the

710
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,920
soundtrack as a kid and everything, and like it's fantastic.

711
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,160
But I think it's just because like it is in

712
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200
this whimsical, like oh, it's just these cartoon characters and

713
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,319
this silly, you know, story and stuff, like I think

714
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:46,319
I can accept it, or even Team America where it's

715
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,279
like how ridiculous is it that these puppets are singing

716
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:48,920
and all this stuff?

717
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,119
Speaker 4: You know.

718
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,519
Speaker 2: I think it's just when you're showing me real people

719
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,759
on a stage or in a movie, I just can't

720
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:56,279
handle it.

721
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:58,839
Speaker 3: I'm gonna now that I know this, I'm gonna like,

722
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,079
the next time you're here or when I'm at your house,

723
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:04,000
I'm going to like try to put a musical on

724
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:04,720
without you knowing.

725
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:07,519
Speaker 2: I'll know I'll detect it well, you'll know when.

726
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:09,359
Speaker 1: They start dancing and singing. Yeah, but like you know,

727
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,039
you'll know when.

728
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,559
Speaker 2: The police show up and kick you out of my house.

729
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:14,559
Speaker 1: Imagine imagine what what Dan?

730
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: What would your brain do if you saw Will Forte

731
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,200
and and uh Jorma Jorma yeah, announced that they're doing

732
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,200
a mcgrooverer musical.

733
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I know it would be hilarious. I

734
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,480
know it would be funny because there wouldn't be any

735
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:29,680
remote like taking self seriously thing where it's like I

736
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,359
think when people talk about like hamils and stuff like

737
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,599
this is important to no pop culture, you know.

738
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: And then well, you know, rest in peace.

739
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: But like imagine I Val Kilm is alive and he

740
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:42,680
came on stage, He's like, week.

741
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,119
Speaker 2: No, I would probably love musical. There's an old Way.

742
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,359
So there's old Seth Meyers joke about the Rocky Musical

743
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,480
and he's like, oh yeah, this, this Rocky musical is

744
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,079
gonna have Broadway next week. He's like, so if you're

745
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,440
a fan of the bravado and machismo of the Rocky

746
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,200
film franchise and lavish Broadway musicals, who are you know?

747
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:04,160
But that's kind of how I feel, Like, Yeah, that's

748
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,240
just that is not for me at all.

749
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,279
Speaker 4: And it sounds like you like it if it's ironic.

750
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:13,279
But what I will say is Puppets, you liked K

751
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,119
pop Demon Hunters, I.

752
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Forgot what you're talking about.

753
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,079
Speaker 2: I did generally like it. Again, three stars, that's a

754
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,960
good host, that's a that's a good score for me.

755
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,000
I got that tied with Jingle all the way, Alien Romulus.

756
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: Oh god, I can't believe it tied with Moms not

757
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,359
three stars.

758
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:32,319
Speaker 1: That movie is not good.

759
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: It is fine, It was fine. Yeah, I don't know.

760
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,039
I I very much tried to be open mindedn't give

761
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:40,519
new things a chance and stuff like that. But it

762
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,559
did have an uphill battle, uh that I do think

763
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:44,160
it overcame.

764
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: I fight through a lot of your ignorance to get

765
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,640
those three stars.

766
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: Now we're just getting personal.

767
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: My goodness, I'm actually like really proud of that. We

768
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,759
had to fight decades of like just complete and utter

769
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:02,440
anger and like, you know, know, deception. You didn't want

770
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,920
to believe that you could.

771
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: Like this, And to give Bank credit, as I always

772
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,279
liked to, I was going to turn it off if

773
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,559
Bank had any kind of like, yeah, let's turn it off,

774
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,839
all right, let's go watch something better.

775
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:14,559
Speaker 5: We gotta give it up to Bank.

776
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,279
Speaker 4: I feel like she's always benefited your life for the good.

777
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:22,279
Oh go shoving vegetables in your gullet. She's getting you

778
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,079
to to like live a healthier, better life. And now

779
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,599
the first musical you didn't hate, and I'm I'm excited.

780
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,559
I think, if anything, this only reaffirms my belief that

781
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,359
every time I think I should be proud of you,

782
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,799
my pride is actually for Bank.

783
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, any credit of me in the last

784
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:41,839
ten years.

785
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to watch Friendship you've been telling

786
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:47,319
me about.

787
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: I see clips of it. What's that? What's the actor's name?

788
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,839
Speaker 5: Hard to get through that fucking Oh you've seen it.

789
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,559
Speaker 4: I saw it in theaters and me and everybody in

790
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:59,160
that fucking theater walked out and said the same thing,

791
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,039
which was, like, what the fuck was that really?

792
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: Three and a half? I gave that slightly love.

793
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 4: I cannot, I cannot, and I love I love that show.

794
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:16,360
I love Tim Robinson. I'm in. It's just so so dry,

795
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,400
like it's really hard.

796
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,639
Speaker 5: There's a very few laugh jokes.

797
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,519
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

798
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,119
Speaker 2: I was cracking up at one joke. Mike, very brief

799
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,480
take it off very brief. The drug trip scene with

800
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,360
the frog, that was the funniest ship. Okay, you put

801
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,480
it back on, you put it back on. Killed.

802
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: There's there's a couple I'm telling you, and there's there's

803
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,719
simple ones too, like I got a full coffee here,

804
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,519
Like there's funny things that happened that I'm like, that's funny.

805
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:50,159
But generally I was just like, this guy is so sad.

806
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: It is a weird one again. Three and a half

807
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,800
isn't like glowing for me, but like, you know, it's

808
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,639
I thought it was generally good and like for Mike

809
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,440
specifically and his you know, big Tim Robinson fandom, I

810
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:02,440
think it's very much.

811
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: I am also a big Tim Robinson fan, and I

812
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,239
will be curious what you think, because like I struggled,

813
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,400
like I think, like towards the end of that film,

814
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,960
I was like, why isn't this funnier? It's it is funny,

815
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,559
it's just so hard to watch.

816
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: I saw the scene the boxing scene with the soap

817
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,239
in his.

818
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: Mouth, boxing scene with the soap, and I don't remember that.

819
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

820
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,639
Speaker 3: I just watched a bunch of clips yesterday. He's boxing

821
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:25,239
with Paul Rudd. In their garage.

822
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,119
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a deleted scene. I don't know, but

823
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:29,039
it's uncomfortable.

824
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,159
Speaker 5: They have the whole film is uncomfortable.

825
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,199
Speaker 4: There is like an extended scene of him playing drums

826
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,159
during a party where I was like, just leave, just

827
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:41,960
go home.

828
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,639
Speaker 1: What's the actor? What's the other actor?

829
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,039
Speaker 2: And not no Connor Mley.

830
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I find him to be so fucking funny.

831
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,559
He was in Palm Springs as well. Yeah, they when

832
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:53,880
the earthquake happens.

833
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I should have never left a Great Lakes.

834
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:59,639
Speaker 2: He cracks me up quite a long. If your horny,

835
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,079
I think you should leave schedule.

836
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: He's talking about when he's talking about the Goonies and

837
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,760
that clip that you sent me, He's like, I don't

838
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,760
even think it would fly today.

839
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,119
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know what the word is, but

840
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,559
he's pretty melted. Slot.

841
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to watch Friendship.

842
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can get through it. But yeah,

843
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:17,960
you should watch.

844
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 5: You'll get through it.

845
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm just curious if you're going to be like this

846
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,119
is laugh out loud funny from beginning to end, or

847
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,679
if you're like I was uncomfortable because it was a

848
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,639
sketch that was two hours long.

849
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: Mary, you'd like Theater Camp. If you haven't seen it,

850
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:32,960
you don't have to be a theater kid. It's it's

851
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,519
a mockumentary with what's her name?

852
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:44,199
Speaker 1: She played the and the Bear. She was like the

853
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,559
love interest in season two. She's in Theater.

854
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: Camp to three years old. Jimmy Tatreau is in it,

855
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:57,960
the bro guy from Real Bros. Of Simi Valley or

856
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,599
whatever it's called. He oh, the the main dude in

857
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,559
American Vandal, that mockumentary they did a few years ago.

858
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:05,159
Speaker 1: Theater Camp's really funny.

859
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: I like it quite a bit, but yeah, I really

860
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,039
want to see twenty eight years later.

861
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Now that I know it's streaming, I might watch that

862
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:14,239
this weekend.

863
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to pay for it, but again my

864
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,360
justification is like I didn't want to leave the house,

865
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,639
but I wanted to see like a new movie, if

866
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:27,679
that makes sense. And like usually when after it's not

867
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,440
in theaters, if you wait a long enough time, it'll

868
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:34,159
just be on like HBO or Netflix, like one of

869
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:36,519
those major dudes will buy it and then you can

870
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,880
watch it for free, quote unquote, because you're paying the subscription,

871
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,079
but you're not paying for the film. I spent twenty

872
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:46,599
dollars renting this movie because it just came out on streaming,

873
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:48,559
and I was like, I don't want to wait for

874
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:50,960
it to be on Netflix, but I don't want to

875
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,599
go to the theater.

876
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never long anymore, like Sinners. I remember I

877
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,840
saw that, like felt like a few weeks after it

878
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,960
came out in theaters.

879
00:37:57,639 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: You know.

880
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: And it's and it's on age too, Sinners.

881
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to watch it.

882
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: Sinners is worth seeing. It's worth paying for if you

883
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,880
don't have HBO. It's it's quite good.

884
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

885
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,599
Speaker 3: Speaking of go now for entertainment and musicals, I'm finally

886
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:16,000
going to see David Byrne for the.

887
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,039
Speaker 1: First time ever.

888
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: Big Pants, No, I wish, I don't know.

889
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: It's Who Is the Sky Tour. So did you see

890
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,039
American Utopia? No, that's on HBO.

891
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,639
Speaker 1: Do you like Talking Heads much?

892
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,119
Speaker 3: I mean normal amounts and I like them. I think

893
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,920
they're good. I just yeah, American Utopia is really good.

894
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,719
It was on Broadway. It actually overlapped with me being

895
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,559
here back on the East Coast for like a year.

896
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,960
I just never went. But he's bringing some musicians back

897
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,880
from that for Who Is the sky. We're going to

898
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,880
see them him at a radio city.

899
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

900
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 3: Nice, but yeah, you guys want to talk about video games?

901
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, okay.

902
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: Yep, and Mike, I feel like you just betrayed everything

903
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,280
I know about you by saying you like musicals.

904
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: I don't like seek out musicals. I just really like Hamilton.

905
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,360
What other ones do I like?

906
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,079
Speaker 5: I don't like Hamilton, but I'm not falling on that sword.

907
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:16,320
That's crazy saying that.

908
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,639
Speaker 1: You don't like it? Why didn't you speak up? And

909
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,880
you just left Dan in the lord I'm connor out.

910
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: When we come back, I bring it in, brig it in, Joe,

911
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:28,320
Jake Jake started thirty seconds ago. No Jake started when

912
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,719
when I told Mike, HEU trade me, don't let her

913
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,320
get out the That is coward ship. Mary, Yeah, what

914
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,920
that is coward ship? Say it with your full chest,

915
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,239
saying it to the microphone.

916
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: I agree, What the suck? You just sent Dan out

917
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,559
of the door. Why you're sitting comfy in thet me

918
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:45,000
out here.

919
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 2: In the fucking desert.

920
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: It was just you're right, that's hilarious. You just let him.

921
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: Fucking Larry's sending you printing at the Germans while she

922
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:04,159
suit back in the trench, like, what the fuck?

923
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh boy, you both betrayed me.

924
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, delicious.

925
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,639
Speaker 4: I felt like you were doing a good job. I

926
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:12,360
didn't think there was.

927
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't just leave him out, you like jumped

928
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,280
on him.

929
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,639
Speaker 2: You're afraid of Hamilton fans? Mary there, do you know

930
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,599
what people were talking about?

931
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,519
Speaker 4: They're intense people.

932
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen me? Yeah?

933
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: Hamilton people are are really into Hamilton, and I don't

934
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,719
want that heat. So I was just gonna say, I

935
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,079
don't know if you've noticed, but I didn't support or

936
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:42,920
defend Hamilton.

937
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 5: I just said that's why I'm.

938
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,079
Speaker 2: I'm glad the folks are hearing the truth though.

939
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: All right, So the truth is this is not video

940
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,159
game talk that I think it's important.

941
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 5: I think Hamilton is fine.

942
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: I think it's fine. I don't understand why it's such

943
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,760
a big deal. And I was seeing these tickets that

944
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,679
were like five hundred dollars just to watch people rap

945
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:18,960
that I don't think is exceptionally good either. What I'll

946
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,280
say that, if anything, we're just we're all like pretty

947
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,880
not educated, probably enough to speak on this, maybe, Mike,

948
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,480
but like, why because you like musicals?

949
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:32,079
Speaker 1: I like why I don't all of us.

950
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: I don't like musicals very much either, but I do

951
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:39,119
like some musicals. I have respect for the genre, unlike

952
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,760
you and I. Just when I was watching it, there

953
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,880
was a couple of the ones of the songs where

954
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,400
people were like doing them in karaoke, and I was like,

955
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,400
give me a break singing Hamilton at karaoke, Like there's

956
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,320
no other good song that you can sing at karaoke.

957
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,280
And that was the truth that I didn't say, which

958
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,679
is like, I I don't think the one shot song

959
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,119
is that good.

960
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: That's Eminem the mom spaghetti.

961
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,679
Speaker 1: Wait what one shot song? Not giving it?

962
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,679
Speaker 2: I lose yourself?

963
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Shut up?

964
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: He's from Detroit, Mike.

965
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:23,039
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get ting to come for meot That's not

966
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:23,639
my favorite song.

967
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: Dear at Theodosia when with Aaron Burr. First of all,

968
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,280
what's what's his fucking Who plays Aaron Burr?

969
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,079
Speaker 1: Oh my god? He won the Tony for it.

970
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 4: You know it's people leslie R.

971
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: His his voice is like he the best singers I've

972
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,800
ever They're all very talented.

973
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 4: We're not questioning the talent of the backtrack.

974
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,599
Speaker 2: Don't be pussy, no, no, no, no, At no point did

975
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:50,039
I say these people aren't in fact respect When I left,

976
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,400
that was what I did.

977
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 4: We're keeping what you said a bit. Everybody here is

978
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:01,320
going to be unpopular when everyone we stand as a moron.

979
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:03,960
Mike is a dick, and I don't like Hamilton, but

980
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,400
everyone needs to know I'm out.

981
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:08,159
Speaker 2: And proud about being a moron. Mary is trying to

982
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:08,480
hide it.

983
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: We need someone more educated than to come on and

984
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,360
talk about Hamilton.

985
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,119
Speaker 2: I just won Manuel, and he's also a big wrestling

986
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,000
in my life. Watch Wrestling with Manuel Brandon.

987
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:25,159
Speaker 4: I have a lot of respect for Lynn Manuel. I

988
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,719
literally listen to an interview with whatever correctly. I listened to.

989
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:31,199
Speaker 5: An interview with him this morning.

990
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: What Linman lynmn Rando Star Wars character scene.

991
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 5: Dan was like, not.

992
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,519
Speaker 4: Everybody needs to like seing the things that are happening

993
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:51,079
in their life. There's this like scene of Hamilton where

994
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:54,320
he's like trying to leave and his wife is like

995
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,480
come back to bed, and he's like.

996
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 5: No, I can't.

997
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: I have to go out.

998
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: I'll be back before you wake up, and she's like, no,

999
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,920
come back to bed and he's like no, but I'll

1000
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,039
be back before you wake up. And I'm like, just

1001
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:06,960
say these things.

1002
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to bed.

1003
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 7: Isn't he going off to war? In that scene to

1004
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:22,639
your brother? If there's one person.

1005
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm coming to.

1006
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 5: And you're like, come back to.

1007
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: Bed, he did, like come by marines with me.

1008
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: If only we could play our marines without it. Imagine

1009
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,039
if fucking they made him a groomer musical, they could

1010
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:52,599
do the sex.

1011
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: The groom musical would be good. Absolutely, I'm going to.

1012
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: Feel you up. Wow wow wow wow.

1013
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 4: There is one musical scene in it where he goes,

1014
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:06,840
are you gonna make your music?

1015
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,199
Speaker 5: And she goes it can wait?

1016
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:13,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's diagetic. It makes sense for Vicky.

1017
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.

1018
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 4: See, we still got it. And I like musicals.

1019
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: See I like that.

1020
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:23,559
Speaker 1: Let's do.

1021
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,039
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do. We won't tell me when it's gonna be,

1022
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:28,440
but one episode of Fire Skive in the future will.

1023
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: Be the musical episode where we have to sing everything.

1024
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:33,199
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that'd be so annoying.

1025
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: It would be the worst podcast episode of all time.

1026
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 3: It would be funny, though, if we actually committed to

1027
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,679
it for two and a half hours.

1028
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:43,119
Speaker 4: So annoyed, I would be so annoyed.

1029
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:45,199
Speaker 1: That would be tiring ash.

1030
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems unnecessary to sing all of your thoughts.

1031
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again like they originally did that because they

1032
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:56,719
had to find ways to communicate inner thoughts.

1033
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: They had like a background chorus, their mass.

1034
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: Their craft. You suck at writing music as far as

1035
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,280
I'm aware, Are you to me?

1036
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:05,639
Speaker 1: Or Dan?

1037
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1038
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: Dan? Yeah?

1039
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: I don't have a musical boat in my body? What

1040
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,119
are you like you?

1041
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: We're going for the growing.

1042
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: Career.

1043
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: It's going to suck, not because musical suck, but because

1044
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,679
we can't make good musical.

1045
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: Good No, I would.

1046
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 3: I stand by my craft if I make wine it sucks,

1047
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,199
I'm not gonna say it sucks. No, I absolutely would.

1048
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:46,159
So we all beat Claibs. Yeah, have we decided whether

1049
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,880
we want to talk? Yeah, so we're gonna are we

1050
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,719
kind of spoiling did though?

1051
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,639
Speaker 1: We're going to do.

1052
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: We're gonna do. We're going to do the end of

1053
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:00,239
Clare Obscure. And so if you do not want to

1054
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:05,280
hear the end and spoilers of Claire Obscure, you should

1055
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:07,199
move forward in time.

1056
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:10,199
Speaker 2: I think we're going to make a point untillake to time.

1057
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 4: We will put time so you don't don't get spoiled,

1058
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,360
and I'm giving you lots of heads.

1059
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:16,519
Speaker 1: Up now if you're listening.

1060
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:18,599
Speaker 3: It's in the episode description as well, because I know

1061
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:20,159
time SAMs are different on different platforms.

1062
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 4: But we've all finished it, we've.

1063
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: All got spoiler.

1064
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:25,079
Speaker 3: We'll put spoiler time stamps in the episode description if

1065
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:26,960
you're listening to this and have not beat Claire obscure.

1066
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, also came out in like April. What are you

1067
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:29,079
waiting for?

1068
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I.

1069
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,559
Speaker 5: Have it was pretty good?

1070
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,079
Speaker 3: Uh?

1071
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Dan, you asked before we were recording.

1072
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:42,599
Speaker 3: Once I started to potentially, I will say I said

1073
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,639
that when I saw where they were going with the ending,

1074
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,159
I stopped liking it as much.

1075
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you told me because I was at a

1076
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480
certain point and you were like, oh yeah, where you were, Dan,

1077
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:53,599
I was probably like a nine, and then what happened

1078
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:55,440
in the next two or three hours probably brought me

1079
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,079
down to like an eight. So I'm curious.

1080
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,639
Speaker 1: I was completely wrong with where they were going.

1081
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 5: Act where are you at when you went down just trying?

1082
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,079
Speaker 3: It was basically when you start to see that like

1083
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:09,360
it's a family thing and you're in this created world

1084
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,320
by So I'm going to butcher details because've forgotten some

1085
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,320
of the names. But like, basically you find out that

1086
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:18,960
the Paris you start in was a creation.

1087
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,599
Speaker 1: Real world viller version. Lemier was a.

1088
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: Creation of the mother in the real world who is

1089
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:30,800
trying to keep who is broken from the death of

1090
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,400
her son son.

1091
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,639
Speaker 2: And what I didn't realize is the like, is there

1092
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:38,440
Loomier in the real world or does she live in

1093
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,360
like actual Paris and Lumier is like this distortion of.

1094
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: It could be it could be like either way. It

1095
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,559
could be her.

1096
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: Because there was that like surreal Effle tower and stuff.

1097
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,000
So I didn't know if it.

1098
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,039
Speaker 3: Was like, so Paris is the city of Light, LEMI

1099
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,800
I believe means light or has something to with light.

1100
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll look that up.

1101
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: I think it's in another surreal world because they have

1102
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,039
all the powers and stuff like that.

1103
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that makes sense.

1104
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's obviously elements of Paris and real world

1105
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,360
places in there, so maybe maybe they visited, uh you know,

1106
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,800
Pattie before. But anyway, the point is is you're right,

1107
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,239
it was the paintress was the mother. She is so

1108
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,880
upset about her son that she painted a world and

1109
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,000
essentially like put herself in it and kept everybody alive,

1110
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,440
but her power was waning.

1111
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: Along with versions of her son and daughter in that world.

1112
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:33,599
Speaker 2: Versus Verso andle well By myle that wasn't her name

1113
00:49:33,639 --> 00:49:35,119
in the real world, but yeah, and.

1114
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: All the dreams she was having were of her real self.

1115
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,599
Speaker 2: Yes, facial she was burned.

1116
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1117
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: They talked about how much the GOV looks like Robert Pattinson.

1118
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,800
The dad looks like Pierce.

1119
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: Bros's very like modern day Piers bro.

1120
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:54,519
Speaker 3: How did they get away with that? That's a whole

1121
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:57,079
other thing. I'm sure there's reddit threat some point.

1122
00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: When you're that hot and symmetrical. It could just be any.

1123
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: The dumbest joke that was a naked gun joke. Yeah,

1124
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,559
that was funny.

1125
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:10,639
Speaker 1: I hate that.

1126
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I really like basically it came down

1127
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,679
to the matrix. Are you going to take the red

1128
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,440
pillar the blue pill? Are you going to keep Lumier alive?

1129
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,800
And basically it comes down to whether you think that

1130
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,480
that imagine it or like created world is as valuable

1131
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,199
as quote unquote the real world, and also like or

1132
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:36,039
do you want to destroy it? And potentially so okay,

1133
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,159
I should say the Dad is also trying to destroy

1134
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:42,239
it because he's basically worried about or he he just

1135
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,599
his wife is has gone insane and has made this world,

1136
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:48,800
so he wants to destroy it. I guess in the

1137
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,800
hopes that it will bring her back.

1138
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 4: He wants to pull them all out, and I think.

1139
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: He thinks reality is more important than the escape in

1140
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:56,880
the art.

1141
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: I think he thinks that she, like the family, needs

1142
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,440
to get over it and move on basically, and he's

1143
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,639
trying to just kind of end this, you know. Uh, God,

1144
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,039
sorry for the term ca fabe, but this ca fabe

1145
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:08,559
world and kind of wants everyone to just kind of

1146
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:09,800
like process everything.

1147
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: And what did you guys choose?

1148
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: I chose Okay, so if I had understood everything correctly

1149
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,079
the first time, I probably would have chosen the one

1150
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,280
where it's like go to the real world, uh and

1151
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:24,119
get rid.

1152
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 5: Of the explain it what you chose?

1153
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:30,519
Speaker 2: I chose the one where my l stays in the

1154
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:33,840
fantasy world because I was under the impression that the

1155
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,159
real world was like way more fucked up than it was.

1156
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,920
I thought like the mom was just like dying. The

1157
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,400
house was burnt down for some reason. I thought it

1158
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,519
was like all is lost, And then when I saw

1159
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,119
I watched the other ending and I was like, oh,

1160
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:48,599
I didn't realize they just like, yeah, they went through

1161
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:51,119
some real shit, but it's mostly like emotional stuff and

1162
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,000
some some scarring and stuff like that. But like I

1163
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,880
think I thought it was like the fucking apocalypse in

1164
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,480
the real world, and I was like, no, let her,

1165
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,519
let her enjoy this.

1166
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,159
Speaker 5: What did you think about your ending?

1167
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. I thought the way they

1168
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,199
brought Verso, I mean, I don't think it was a

1169
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,320
good ending in terms of like it wasn't good for

1170
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:10,599
myel I don't guess either of aod no, no, there's

1171
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,800
it's a bittersweet no matter how you take it. The

1172
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,360
idea of like Verso coming out and like being forced

1173
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,119
to kind of like haha, I'm playing this song and

1174
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:20,599
everything's fine, and like meanwhile, he's just kind of being

1175
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,119
forced to exist when he should not. Like, I think

1176
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:26,239
that's a really interesting idea. Like they're both very interesting,

1177
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,199
Like what what what a good decision at the end,

1178
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,239
because neither of them is black or white, good or

1179
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,440
bad or anything, and they both have like incredible implications.

1180
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's actually asking you something larger than the game.

1181
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,239
It's like, do you think I chose to stay with Lemier.

1182
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you stayed in the fantasy.

1183
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,199
Speaker 3: Yes, because in my mind it was like, well, whether

1184
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,880
these characters are quote unquote real or not, whether this

1185
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:56,199
is the truth in this context, they're the characters I've

1186
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,920
gotten attached to by playing the game. So is it

1187
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,320
any less real than the real world they're talking about?

1188
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,679
Speaker 1: So I kept it alive? What did you do?

1189
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 4: Mary? I? I chose the real world because Verso said

1190
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:14,199
to me multiple times I don't want to be here, yeah,

1191
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:18,320
and I don't want to sing anymore and you're making

1192
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,320
me and I don't want to live this life anymore.

1193
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,599
And I thought to myself, like I was always against

1194
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,599
my dad telling me what to do and felt really

1195
00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:28,719
strongly that like I wanted to support my al and

1196
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,360
what she wanted. It wasn't until Verso said that he

1197
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,519
didn't want to be alive, which I think is a

1198
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:36,840
very gutting realization.

1199
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,079
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to be around anymore.

1200
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,599
Speaker 5: He wants to die, he has asked to die.

1201
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 4: And I think, like this is the part that's very real,

1202
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,400
Like you're these are like really real world implications all

1203
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,440
of a sudden, where I'm like, I love my family.

1204
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,480
But if my family member was like I don't want

1205
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,960
to be here no more, I would support them even

1206
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,800
if it hurt me. And that's why I chose the

1207
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,320
real world, because I was like, I don't want to

1208
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,519
make you sing for me if you don't want to

1209
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:06,719
be around anymore, and I.

1210
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,159
Speaker 5: And I chose it. It's also very solemn.

1211
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:13,039
Speaker 4: I mean, everyone's morning, there's a grave where your son is.

1212
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,480
You say goodbye to all of the characters I like

1213
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:19,840
got choked up saying goodbye to all the characters that

1214
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:25,440
I like. Well, I liked them all and I loved

1215
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,000
I just I felt so bad for the the Oh

1216
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,360
my gosh, I'm forgetting all their names. But the girl

1217
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:36,559
like Luna was so she was mad in the in

1218
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:40,519
the scene when you if you choose reality, she doesn't

1219
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,719
say goodbye, like she doesn't like hug you or anything.

1220
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,119
She's mad because you chose to kill her. And so

1221
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:52,639
by choosing Verso's ability to have his own death, I

1222
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,559
was inadvertently killing a lot of people that I loved,

1223
00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:59,119
and that was that was really hard for me to accept.

1224
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:03,239
But I I still believe that I am satisfied with

1225
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,679
my ending because I felt generally speaking that I understood

1226
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,320
that they needed to heal and deal with the morning

1227
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,360
process and the grief and move forward as a family

1228
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,360
as opposed to being in the painting, even though I

1229
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,880
prefer the joy.

1230
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Of the painting.

1231
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, my initial thinking was that, like, oh, Mael obviously

1232
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:27,679
went through like unbelievable trauma, and you know, whatever respite

1233
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,679
she can get from that through this fantasy world, this fiction,

1234
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,800
like you allow her to have this piece, And like,

1235
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,519
I think when I made that decision, I did not

1236
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,800
consider the implications of like, oh, well, these are like

1237
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,639
sentient characters basically that exist in this fiction, and what

1238
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:44,639
does that mean for them?

1239
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: You know?

1240
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: And so it's like it was so interesting watching the

1241
00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:49,440
other one and being like, oh fuck, I didn't think

1242
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,320
about that aspect of this, you know, and it's God,

1243
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,480
what a good ending, what a just tremendous game.

1244
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 4: And they say they're copies as well, So in this

1245
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,960
new world that Mayel has constructed, you're also again making copies.

1246
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,599
It's not the same people that we were with during

1247
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:10,760
our journey. Obviously, it's like very similar, but it's not

1248
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,320
the exact same. They explained that early on, when that

1249
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,239
tiny dude that has like he looks like an upside

1250
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,039
down broom. He's got that hair. He dies and they're like,

1251
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,960
can we bring them back? And the guy goes yes,

1252
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:27,320
and they go, I can, but only a version dog.

1253
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: Yes.

1254
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: I mean is that not like it's like, oh, it's great,

1255
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,000
it looks like it has the same but like, there's

1256
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:38,119
so many things that you can't like replicate.

1257
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:40,599
Speaker 5: Maybe I feel like we're talking about like humans.

1258
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: It'd be like if you died and we cloned you

1259
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:44,920
and put you on this podcast, that.

1260
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: Would be fascinating. You should do that even if.

1261
00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:49,599
Speaker 1: I don't die, Okay, I will Yeah for.

1262
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 2: A person to dance, Yeah, yeah, with one of you,

1263
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,880
we each get twenty five percent. And it's the joint Yeah.

1264
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 5: No, because that girl that has two heads in one.

1265
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,559
Speaker 1: Body having a joint bank with your guy.

1266
00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm getting half the podcast fuckers.

1267
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 3: From fire Escape with the millions that we make every year.

1268
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,079
Speaker 4: The girl that has two heads in one body, she

1269
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,039
only gets paid once by her job.

1270
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: He's just immediately hypothetical scenario doesn't sound too bad now.

1271
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean.

1272
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: Yes, you bad before because I can't handle two annoying people.

1273
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: Podcast of All Time?

1274
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,519
Speaker 3: Sign in next time. And there's gonna be six of

1275
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:35,599
me and be like, I'm onto you now I.

1276
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: Get as long as there's more me than you. That

1277
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:39,840
meets like at the bigger cut fuckerd that'd.

1278
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: Be such like a stupid Tim Robinson sketch. There's someone

1279
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,239
cloning himself so he can make more money on in

1280
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:53,480
his revenue. Yeah, funny, what if you clone? Yeah, but

1281
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,119
you're assuming your clone would go along with it. What

1282
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:56,920
if your clone decided to take all your money?

1283
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: What's that clone going to do?

1284
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,519
Speaker 1: He'd be greedy, hear you. He would be thinking of

1285
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:02,599
podcast that.

1286
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what if we clone ourselves and they

1287
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,920
started competing with us like a ba A Bizarrow fire

1288
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:10,239
Escape of Evil.

1289
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: Fire escape no copyright strike out of them.

1290
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:17,519
Speaker 5: Water copyright strike you because they're the same, I would.

1291
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,199
Speaker 2: Say, they're AI and so yeah.

1292
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:20,079
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1293
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:23,159
Speaker 3: What if Dan got cloned and every single thing and

1294
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:29,119
desire and need and detail was the same, except his

1295
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:35,239
clone was super weirdly into musicals, like all he talked

1296
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:36,199
about was musicals.

1297
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:38,719
Speaker 2: Well, then he can do his own podcasts over there,

1298
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:39,079
and then we're not.

1299
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: Comparat to Disney movies and he lost.

1300
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:45,679
Speaker 1: He's got the yearly thing to the Disney Club or whatever,

1301
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:46,679
and he's.

1302
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:48,519
Speaker 4: More popular and beloved than you.

1303
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Dan.

1304
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: Good for him. I wish everyone's success.

1305
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 4: I wish everyone's success, But.

1306
00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:03,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Claips, you're probably my front runner for Game of

1307
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:04,159
the Year right now.

1308
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,039
Speaker 1: I don't want to be up there. For me.

1309
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,679
Speaker 2: It is like there's there's a battle going on up

1310
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:10,079
the top of my list right now, and.

1311
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,679
Speaker 4: I, oh, there's a couple. There's a couple. But I

1312
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:15,760
do think it's very well executed. It did win me

1313
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,440
over in the end, I will say, like I also

1314
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,480
towards the end, because I'm just not a big JRPG person,

1315
00:59:21,719 --> 00:59:25,039
I was like, oh, there's a lot of hours, and

1316
00:59:25,079 --> 00:59:27,599
there were times where I was like getting there where

1317
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:28,559
I was ready.

1318
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: But I kind of saw it as a breezy one

1319
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,559
in terms of like turnbased RBG.

1320
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: They can be like, can't those be like seventy eighty hours?

1321
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean that's more the norm than what

1322
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:37,960
clear obscurity is.

1323
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,199
Speaker 4: I think it's reasonable, but I I'm just being honest,

1324
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,199
Like usually when I play a game around the twenty

1325
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:48,159
hour mark, I'm always like, what else is out there?

1326
00:59:48,599 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: I would love if a turn based game got game

1327
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,119
of the year for us.

1328
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: Not lobbying.

1329
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,679
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you are what's big step for us.

1330
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,119
It will clearly be talked about a lot a game

1331
01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:02,519
of the year.

1332
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 4: We have all agreed that as we're not going to

1333
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,440
grow and we are not going to be better people.

1334
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:10,599
Speaker 3: So it was the seinfelding no hugging, no hugging, no learning,

1335
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,440
no learning.

1336
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah we learned, Yeah we.

1337
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,599
Speaker 3: Learned, no hug Yeah we've hugged, yeah wed Yeah yeah.

1338
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:20,599
Speaker 1: I played Real World. Do you guys talk about last episode?

1339
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:22,280
I won't drone on. I like it a lot.

1340
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: I also have started listening to much more music from Italians.

1341
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: Do it better?

1342
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: Oh I I I've found a June from the soundtrack

1343
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:32,360
like her a lot.

1344
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:38,199
Speaker 3: Yes that is She's good too, But uh yeah, I

1345
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:42,280
I like it quite a bit, very relaxing. Yes, I

1346
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,119
like the structure of it. I think it works as

1347
01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:47,880
an open world game. I will say it was weird

1348
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,480
how I came across that. I came across that game because,

1349
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:55,880
uh is it Anna twenty four doesn't do video games

1350
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,760
right and had like they had ads on Instagram like

1351
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,159
in my stories, like I hadn't heard of it through

1352
01:01:03,199 --> 01:01:06,280
the industry. I heard about it just surfing Instagram, which

1353
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,760
was funny. Like I was like, oh, this is how

1354
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,000
normal people come across video games sometimes.

1355
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thowt it like Steam next Fest, and

1356
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:14,400
I immediately was like, oh shit, okay, it's like bike

1357
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:17,320
biking arcade racing, almost like that Breath of the Wild type,

1358
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,880
you know, obviously much more condensed than Scope, but like, yeah,

1359
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,039
I loved it immediately.

1360
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: It's really good looking.

1361
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:26,239
Speaker 3: I like the art style kind of reminds me of shit,

1362
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,639
what was that game two years ago that was also

1363
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,760
kind of like a zen Breath of the Wild in

1364
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,159
the desert. Yes, it reminded me of Sable in the

1365
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:35,960
vibes kind.

1366
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: Of sure, Yeah, I find this like easier to navigate

1367
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,880
than Sable or like most games of recent years were

1368
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,559
like this game had such a very simple presence. And

1369
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:50,559
I I played this because Dan you recommended it, and

1370
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,000
I also, uh, I got like a little bag with

1371
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:56,400
some goodies from the company, so I was looking it up.

1372
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 5: I know mess Hoff they do good stuff. Yeah, and

1373
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:06,840
so I think, where are my goodies? Uh they send

1374
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:07,519
us chocolates?

1375
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:09,559
Speaker 1: Uh what the fuck?

1376
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: They were good?

1377
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,119
Speaker 1: What? What the cock?

1378
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: I like the sing it sing it yeah, where the

1379
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:24,360
cock peenis? Where's my goodies?

1380
01:02:24,719 --> 01:02:33,159
Speaker 2: What the world to.

1381
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:38,679
Speaker 1: Wheel World two? It's not on a bike this time.

1382
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,159
It's on a dial dough with wheels.

1383
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,199
Speaker 4: You can basically there's like a human bike. You can

1384
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:48,599
exchange your bikes. So we don't have to explain the

1385
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:50,239
game because you did it last time, Dan, But I

1386
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:54,199
was just gonna say I finished the game. I thought

1387
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:57,119
it was excellent, And the only complaint I really have

1388
01:02:57,239 --> 01:02:59,719
is that I think the second world, so when you

1389
01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:01,320
do all the stuff, you're.

1390
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:03,719
Speaker 5: In the stunning landscape.

1391
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:06,239
Speaker 2: And it's so beautifun it looks like is.

1392
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:08,119
Speaker 4: That what when you talked to me, did you think

1393
01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:09,159
the game was done then?

1394
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: Because there's because it's like I knew it was going

1395
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,760
to be like a condensed game. I know you can

1396
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,079
beat in a few hours and stuff.

1397
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 5: You go to the moon, bud, you kick the moon.

1398
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, I got to the corporate place.

1399
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,239
Speaker 4: Okay, is that the moon that you're talking credits?

1400
01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: No, I haven't eaten it yet. Oh okay, not.

1401
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 4: Really a little bit. But like I think, literally in

1402
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,000
the beginning of the game, the fucking skull is like

1403
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:38,920
you gotta go to the moon or so I think

1404
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,079
there's like something alluding to it. But anyway, you kick, Yeah,

1405
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:45,599
it doesn't matter. The point is is the first area

1406
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:48,440
is so beautiful, and I thought based on what you

1407
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:50,800
said to me, which was this game is like seven

1408
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,719
and nine hours, and I was like, that's perfect, that's

1409
01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:54,880
exactly what I'm looking for. I spent like seven to

1410
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:00,199
nine hours getting through this first stunningly fall landscape, and

1411
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:02,440
then they were like, great, let's go, let's go to

1412
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,800
the next area. Don't correct me.

1413
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,079
Speaker 1: I was adding flavor. We're not correct, just adding my

1414
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,719
fucking crepuscular.

1415
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,519
Speaker 5: What is the equal of autumnal sewage?

1416
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: Uh?

1417
01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: Wait, what season is sewers?

1418
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: Feces? Wait?

1419
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,719
Speaker 3: What what season is sewers?

1420
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: You heard me?

1421
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 5: What season is sewer?

1422
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,039
Speaker 1: Summer is probably the most Yeah, well, then.

1423
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 4: Area two is summer because it fucking looks like ship

1424
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:43,239
it is.

1425
01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 5: It's not beautiful.

1426
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,119
Speaker 4: It's like it's like dirty and it's green and it's.

1427
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: Dark and stuff swamps.

1428
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: And I don't understand what mess Off was thinking. I

1429
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,639
just have to say, for a game that's so peaceful

1430
01:04:56,679 --> 01:04:59,960
and so beautiful and so whimsical, the second area is plot.

1431
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:03,639
It's not whimsical or beautiful to ride around, and it's

1432
01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:07,840
actually kind of garish, like the sound effects nice of

1433
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,760
the machines smashing down on the ground to collect oil

1434
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,960
or garbage or rats or whatever they're doing.

1435
01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:15,039
Speaker 5: I just didn't understand.

1436
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: I guess I do understand like what they're going for

1437
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:19,280
narratively with that, Like it's not supposed to be it's

1438
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,159
supposed to be this corporate healthscape thing, you know, with

1439
01:05:21,199 --> 01:05:23,679
that company, like ruining the land. But like, you know,

1440
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:26,320
I get what they're trying to do, but for what

1441
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,880
that first area sets up, it really does set up

1442
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,519
this like fun, breezy biking game, and it's like, I

1443
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:34,000
don't know if I needed the like narrative shift there,

1444
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:36,800
Like I could have just used, like, hey, add that

1445
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,599
you know, square mileage to to the cool first area.

1446
01:05:40,679 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1447
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: I think that's part of why I didn't beat it,

1448
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,280
Like I still likely will because I like the game

1449
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,679
a lot, but you know, it's like I got the

1450
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:49,559
second world, didn't love it.

1451
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:51,199
Speaker 1: It's not beautiful, Yeah it's not.

1452
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: And then it's like other games came out and stuff,

1453
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,760
and so it's like it's kind of dropped off the

1454
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,400
priority thing for me a little bit. But I still

1455
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,400
do like the game a lot. I just wish it

1456
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,599
was like the First World but three times bigger instead

1457
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:02,559
of you know, I.

1458
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,599
Speaker 4: Agree, or maybe show that there's problems, but don't make

1459
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:08,760
the game hideous, right like, I think you can show

1460
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,679
that technology that is. The story is like corporations are

1461
01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:16,880
taking over and there's like robots and a I think

1462
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,639
there's like a whole corporo conversation to be had about

1463
01:06:21,639 --> 01:06:25,800
that game. But they also like made the second area

1464
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,719
not nearly as beautiful to play, and there's a third

1465
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,840
area just you know, I wonder where that is.

1466
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, is that the moon?

1467
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: It's not. That's the fourth here.

1468
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,599
Speaker 2: There's another spoiler.

1469
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: Great, should we timestamp this as well? People haven't.

1470
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: They're going to come for me.

1471
01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:52,079
Speaker 4: There's a moon and wheel World.

1472
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,559
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think that's too bad.

1473
01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 4: I don't come. I didn't care for Hamilton and there's

1474
01:06:59,400 --> 01:06:59,920
a moon and.

1475
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: Wheel Wow, I'm off the hook.

1476
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,119
Speaker 3: I didn't care for Hamilton and there's a moon and

1477
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:06,679
wheel World.

1478
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: Suck my dick. We need some new merch that just

1479
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,320
says that.

1480
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: A T shirt that says exactly that.

1481
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna get that made.

1482
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,079
Speaker 2: Specific mouse pad.

1483
01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: It's not it's not hard.

1484
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,639
Speaker 3: We have associated I don't need you don't need to

1485
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:35,960
dare me. I've already committed to making it. Let me

1486
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,880
write that down. You guys keep talking.

1487
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:49,239
Speaker 1: I care for is wheel World one word.

1488
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,199
Speaker 2: If any I don't think we can see who buys what.

1489
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,960
If anyone buys this mouse pad, it will be the

1490
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,599
most unexplainable thing anyone has ever bought.

1491
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,639
Speaker 1: Imagine someone getting it's like a Father's Day gift, like

1492
01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:02,719
what the fuck.

1493
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:07,039
Speaker 3: Mouse mouse pat or we get another like banana hamm

1494
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:10,079
I can put this on that.

1495
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: In like six months and now it's.

1496
01:08:13,079 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: It would be above my penis if it was a

1497
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:16,720
banana hammick, and I said, sucked my dick.

1498
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, sure my dick.

1499
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 2: Sure you've seen how the sausages made here?

1500
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, my sausages. Okay. I liked it.

1501
01:08:26,119 --> 01:08:27,239
Speaker 5: I think it's a good game.

1502
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,319
Speaker 4: I think it's worth playing. And that's like my only criticism.

1503
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,560
I love the evolution of it, upgrading my bike, I

1504
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,920
love racing people. It's a great game. Is really the

1505
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:38,520
t ld R.

1506
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: I'll give it another criticism. I do think once you

1507
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,079
get all the legendary parts on the bike, which you

1508
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:45,680
get fairly early on. It is hard to want to

1509
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,439
switch to other ones because they have freaking stashed and

1510
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,800
they let you just like gain boost passively and like

1511
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,039
it stacks, so.

1512
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: We have all of it.

1513
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 4: You have to have, you have to once you have

1514
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,800
the complete set, there's no reason to upgrade your bike.

1515
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,399
I actually never upgraded my bike in a.

1516
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,359
Speaker 2: Second, lef, And I like you you in a game

1517
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:05,199
like this, you want to be constantly leveling up and

1518
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:07,119
getting better and stuff like that, and so all of

1519
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:08,520
these let me boost, you know.

1520
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,199
Speaker 5: So that's fair. You should never have gotten that sick

1521
01:09:11,239 --> 01:09:12,479
bike until the second.

1522
01:09:12,199 --> 01:09:14,239
Speaker 2: The end of the second, or make it a gradual thing,

1523
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:17,119
stretch out across all. I guess there's four zones. Thanks

1524
01:09:17,159 --> 01:09:19,920
for the spoiler, but yeah instead of just all in

1525
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,039
the front of which is the moon?

1526
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, what's the third one? Saturday?

1527
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 7: Oh?

1528
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,399
Speaker 8: Sorry that you guys like listen to a gaming podcast

1529
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:30,279
and you heard about a game and what happens in

1530
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:34,279
the game. Oh you guys better like go move ahead

1531
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:36,680
sixty more seconds because I'm gonna talk about a game soon.

1532
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,399
Speaker 2: Do you want to spoil what the third area is?

1533
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,520
Because I don't know either.

1534
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,119
Speaker 9: You guys, don't if you don't want to hear about

1535
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:46,880
Undermine two Peak, Time Flies, Heartworm, uh DK, Bonanza or

1536
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,880
Ninja Gaiden rage Bound, don't listen to this podcast because

1537
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:50,720
we're gonna spoil all.

1538
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,119
Speaker 2: Those No, we're not. We're of our audience.

1539
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: You are not. I don't harbor any resentment toward our

1540
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:57,359
audience at all.

1541
01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 5: No, I like, I don't harbor any resentment at all.

1542
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 3: But also by this dumb mouse pad funny, I was

1543
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,279
not here last time. Mary's already known she doesn't want

1544
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:11,079
to talk about Donkey Kong more, but I have not

1545
01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:12,479
talked to anybody about it, and I hear.

1546
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:16,159
Speaker 4: It's really I didn't say that, you sung, I said,

1547
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,840
we got a fight before this podcast started.

1548
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,119
Speaker 5: A fight and I said, I said.

1549
01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 3: I was ve because I'm having a migraine literally as

1550
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,359
we're talking right now, and it's just my brain and

1551
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:28,079
half you're dick.

1552
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 5: You're like, there's something wrong.

1553
01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 3: With every time I left my head is like lava

1554
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:33,760
Mary quip being funny.

1555
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: That's really rude.

1556
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I am.

1557
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 4: We're taking a lot of ship this episode.

1558
01:10:41,079 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: Yourself.

1559
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:42,399
Speaker 2: I think I think you're the.

1560
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: Fucking held onto the Epstein fight. I shouldn't joke about that.

1561
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,239
My goodness, that got that got that Jake for real?

1562
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:52,239
Speaker 1: For real.

1563
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't think you mean it for real.

1564
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean I actually the world to know who you

1565
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,239
really are.

1566
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:01,039
Speaker 2: Turning against Mike.

1567
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm just taking the heat off. This is a disaster.

1568
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:14,840
Is I've heard it's good. I haven't talked to anybody.

1569
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, kicks ass, it's awesome.

1570
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:18,079
Speaker 1: It's like a donkey kicks ass.

1571
01:11:18,119 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 5: Do you like?

1572
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

1573
01:11:19,039 --> 01:11:19,399
Speaker 1: Do you like?

1574
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 9: Uh?

1575
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,199
Speaker 2: Mario Ottissey, I think.

1576
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: It's one of the best games the last ten years.

1577
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, you know it's the same team and everything,

1578
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,640
and it's like I will not put it on that

1579
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,520
same level. It is not far though, I think, you know,

1580
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,079
Odyssey is probably like the best three D platformer of

1581
01:11:37,079 --> 01:11:40,600
all time I could see. I would say this is

1582
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,359
closer to like maybe one of the Galaxy games, which

1583
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,079
is not something I would say lightly. You know, like

1584
01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:48,640
those are also among the greatest platformers of all time,

1585
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,920
and the gimmick it's got is really good. Like I

1586
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,560
don't know if you've played any of it at all

1587
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,279
or seen much of it, but the idea of just

1588
01:11:55,359 --> 01:11:57,239
I don't have a switch to oh God, just being

1589
01:11:57,279 --> 01:11:59,720
able to burst through fucking anything in the environment for

1590
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,760
the most part, I mean the small exceptions, but like

1591
01:12:02,199 --> 01:12:04,880
it's very satisfying. It's just having like a Donkey Kong

1592
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,159
with a skill tree. And the fact that they took

1593
01:12:07,159 --> 01:12:10,359
this like one of the like Mount Rushmore biggest like

1594
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,840
you know, names and franchises in games history and and

1595
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,079
and made it modern, made it feel new in a

1596
01:12:18,199 --> 01:12:20,359
very real way and didn't just lean on nostalgia or

1597
01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:23,399
anything like it does the right amount of like, hey,

1598
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,960
here's the thing you recognize, or here's a song that

1599
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,399
we made a new version of, or here's these characters

1600
01:12:28,399 --> 01:12:31,119
from the DKC series or whatever. Like it picks its

1601
01:12:31,119 --> 01:12:33,720
spots very well, but it very much feels like a

1602
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:37,520
new experience and it's it's really great throughout. And a

1603
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,680
lot of people said this, and I didn't understand until

1604
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,439
I got there myself while I was in New York.

1605
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,960
But like it the last few hours really hammered home.

1606
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:48,640
Like you know, I was loving it before that, and

1607
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,720
when I talked about this last episode, I had not

1608
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,359
seen the last few hours. And it's like it does

1609
01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:57,199
some really smart things gameplay wise, nos soldier wise, all

1610
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:00,920
that that really like. This is a spec game for sure,

1611
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,319
and I really like to play it the time too.

1612
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,399
Fun factor is about the shortest I've ever seen. You're

1613
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,560
having fun instantly when you start the game.

1614
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:09,399
Speaker 1: So super dewey.

1615
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: Oh, among the deweiest games ever. Yeah.

1616
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's only on switch to though correct.

1617
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:23,039
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I got to get one eventually anyway.

1618
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: And it's not going to go down in price if

1619
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:23,920
anything will go up.

1620
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 1: No, yeah, well cool.

1621
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's high on my list and I need to

1622
01:13:29,159 --> 01:13:30,680
have played that before a Game of the year because

1623
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:31,479
I feel like it'll come up.

1624
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 2: It will be high on mine for sure. It is

1625
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,840
one of those that is jockeying for that top position.

1626
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,199
Speaker 1: Mary, what else have you been playing? Time Flies a couple.

1627
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,239
Speaker 4: I loved this game and I'm really excited to talk

1628
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:48,960
to you guys about it. This is a really short, sweet,

1629
01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:52,840
indie ass indie game called time Flies. The premise is

1630
01:13:53,199 --> 01:13:55,840
you are a fly and you have a bucket list

1631
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,399
of things you would like to do before you die,

1632
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,159
and the catches is that because you're a your life

1633
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:02,880
expectancy is seventy two seconds.

1634
01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh oh. The art style art style.

1635
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 4: Drawing extremely simple, so think like uh yeah, like pretty

1636
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,560
much like black and white or like really simple visuals.

1637
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 5: Right eight bit you're a dot.

1638
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,279
Speaker 4: But here this is important to recognize people who are like, oh,

1639
01:14:24,319 --> 01:14:26,880
it's like too simple. You might be spoiling it, so

1640
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,760
be careful looking because like, this game is explorative. The

1641
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,039
whole joy of this is how explorative it is. I'll

1642
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:36,079
give you an example in the very beginning of this game.

1643
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:38,319
I in like the first thirty seconds, this won't spoil

1644
01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:42,199
too much. You will get up from your couch and

1645
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:45,000
you will fly, and you will go past a guitar

1646
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,960
and if you land on the strings, the guitar will

1647
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:52,079
let you play it, and then on your bucket list

1648
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:54,960
you will cross off learn how to play music, and

1649
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,359
that is like the crux of this game. However, so

1650
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,760
much through this game you will land on a fly

1651
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,039
trap and it'll eat you, or you will land on

1652
01:15:04,079 --> 01:15:06,520
a faucet and you will die, and the game will

1653
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,920
just say you died, very reminiscent of like you know,

1654
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:16,399
any modern game died, and you start over. You play

1655
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,880
again from the same spot, and you just try new

1656
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,359
things until you get more things off your bucket list,

1657
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,239
and to complete the level, you have to do all

1658
01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:28,880
the things in your bucket list in the same life,

1659
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,359
So not only have you have to uncover the puzzle,

1660
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,319
but then you have to do a time puzzle where

1661
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:34,720
you're like.

1662
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,199
Speaker 5: I want to do the guitar first, then I want

1663
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:38,000
to do the hair.

1664
01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 4: Then I want to find this, then I want to

1665
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,359
do the marble, then I got to do the globe,

1666
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,399
and you kind of like map it out in.

1667
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:49,199
Speaker 2: Your head, so questioning can you does it show these

1668
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:52,720
bucket list items before you or is it like, oh,

1669
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,279
it's it's invisible and then you play the guitar and

1670
01:15:55,279 --> 01:15:57,479
then it fills in. Like learn to play music.

1671
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 4: There is a piece of paper that you can check

1672
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:02,640
throughout the game so that you can always see what

1673
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,159
they are. But some of them are puns and some

1674
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:09,359
of them are play on word intentionally, so you might

1675
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,520
not realize what you're doing.

1676
01:16:12,279 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 2: Music doesn't necessarily say play a string on the guitar.

1677
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,079
It's just totally okay, I see, And uh.

1678
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 4: It's so hard to not spoil these because they're.

1679
01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 2: Really well, I think I'll play this, like I like

1680
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,239
the what you're describing sounds Funwitch's a.

1681
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: Video on the one of the videos on the games

1682
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,000
Steam page.

1683
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:35,319
Speaker 2: Are you gonna spoil the box?

1684
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,079
Speaker 3: No, it's just is the game also really funny at

1685
01:16:38,079 --> 01:16:40,920
some points. It is very funny and there's a thing

1686
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,079
like making me laugh that I'm with.

1687
01:16:42,199 --> 01:16:46,239
Speaker 4: It's a bit cheeky. I don't think it's like to

1688
01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:50,800
adult or anything, but it has some slight nudity, but

1689
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,640
not a lot. But like there's some butts and stuff,

1690
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,479
and I think they like play with the human form.

1691
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,319
There's some fart jokes in it that I think you

1692
01:16:58,359 --> 01:17:03,439
guys will think are very funny. There's also puzzles throughout it,

1693
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,800
so sometimes you'll just go into an area you'll be like,

1694
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,119
what is this all about? And you'll get a puzzle

1695
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:10,760
piece and you have to get all of the puzzle

1696
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,039
pieces to construct the puzzle, which I think is cute. Also,

1697
01:17:14,319 --> 01:17:16,439
there's four different worlds, which I also don't think is

1698
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,399
a spoiler, so like Moon last the moon is the

1699
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,840
last one. Okay, if you do all of the little things,

1700
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,000
then you actually get to the credits. And I did

1701
01:17:25,079 --> 01:17:27,880
all of it within two hours, guys, and I loved it.

1702
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,600
I loved every minute of it. I thought it was

1703
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,560
like the best Sunday afternoon game I've played in a

1704
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,159
Dog's Age. I just adored it.

1705
01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: Did you ever play Minute? Yes?

1706
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: Okay, is it anything like that where it's like, I

1707
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:41,000
do remember that being a similar thing where it's like, okay,

1708
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,159
I got to do a bunch of shit in like

1709
01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:44,520
one run basically, and that kind of also had that

1710
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,079
very low fi, you know, art style it did.

1711
01:17:47,159 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 4: I think sometimes for me Minute was more like how

1712
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,439
do I navigate doing all this in the same life,

1713
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:58,159
whereas I feel like Time Flies is more whimsical and experimental.

1714
01:17:58,319 --> 01:18:01,760
I found myself playing in this game a lot. I

1715
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,680
was doing things just to see if I could. And

1716
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,199
this game toys with you a lot. They'll be like

1717
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:09,640
things will be like, oh, this has got to be something,

1718
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,399
and then it'll kill you, you know what I mean,

1719
01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:13,159
And you won't get mad because like you just pop

1720
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:16,079
back up like it's not a big deal. The last

1721
01:18:16,119 --> 01:18:18,079
thing that I found was interesting And I don't know

1722
01:18:18,199 --> 01:18:19,760
what this game is really trying to say with this,

1723
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:24,399
but I should mention your life expectancy changes based on

1724
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,760
the country that you choose to play from, and the

1725
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:33,279
country is the average year expectancy of actual humans, but

1726
01:18:33,319 --> 01:18:37,680
they put it into seconds. Yes, so if you want

1727
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,760
to play a little longer. You would be like, I'm

1728
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,199
from Japan, and if you want to play a little shorter,

1729
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,760
you would pick like a country where the life expension.

1730
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,079
Speaker 1: Is really short.

1731
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 4: I don't know why they did that, but there's like

1732
01:18:51,039 --> 01:18:56,239
there's like facts in it for like a month probably,

1733
01:18:56,319 --> 01:19:00,159
But in this game, I swear like the longest the

1734
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:02,399
longest you can live is like I swear is like

1735
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,800
picking Sweden and it's like seventy six seconds or something

1736
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,479
like that. I ended up googling, where's what's the longest

1737
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,800
life expectancy? I forget that.

1738
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious.

1739
01:19:13,039 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 4: I think it's somewhere in Norway, and and I picked

1740
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,920
that just so I could have the longest life expectancy.

1741
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,600
There's also differences in the game depending on the country

1742
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,039
you pick. I found this interesting. In one of the worlds,

1743
01:19:25,079 --> 01:19:27,600
you're like in an art exhibit, and depending on what

1744
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,880
you pick, uh, the art will change. And so in

1745
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,880
one of them, I picked that I was from Korea,

1746
01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:36,479
and the art said, you don't want to see this art,

1747
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,680
so we're not going to show it to you because

1748
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:44,439
it's like propaganda. Oh interesting, Yeah, I thought that was

1749
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:45,000
really long.

1750
01:19:45,079 --> 01:19:46,159
Speaker 1: Is the highest?

1751
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 4: That's not what I got.

1752
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: States, and Mary, I got bad news for you. You're

1753
01:19:52,079 --> 01:19:53,000
not gonna last as long as me.

1754
01:19:53,039 --> 01:19:53,319
Speaker 1: You're Mike.

1755
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, New York is number three, Minnesota is number four,

1756
01:19:59,279 --> 01:20:00,520
in Organ's number twelve.

1757
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 1: Okay, there's got to be why. Why is New York.

1758
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,079
Speaker 2: State?

1759
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: It's a big state.

1760
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, because countries, not states. Monaco is the highest with

1761
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,720
eighty seven years. Other high life expectancies are Hong Hong

1762
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:19,239
Kong and Japan. Yeah yeah, and ours is not very

1763
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:21,039
super high.

1764
01:20:21,079 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll go to Monico. Okay, I'll go to Hong Kong. Mary,

1765
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,359
you're going to Japan.

1766
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,359
Speaker 2: Japan. I want to go to Japan now. I love

1767
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,640
Oh there, I like Japan.

1768
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:37,199
Speaker 1: All nice places sound good. Yeah, Hey, this game sounds cool.

1769
01:20:37,359 --> 01:20:40,520
Speaker 3: It sounds almost like a twenty twenty one era time

1770
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,960
loop game like Forbidden City had similar figuring out the

1771
01:20:44,039 --> 01:20:45,359
order to do things in and then.

1772
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:48,039
Speaker 4: And the puzzles are are sweet and cute and they're

1773
01:20:48,079 --> 01:20:49,159
not too complicated.

1774
01:20:49,319 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 5: I I can.

1775
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes get frustrated with like complicated puzzly games if they're

1776
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,279
racking my brain too much. Every one of these I

1777
01:20:56,399 --> 01:20:58,840
was like, oh, I get what you're doing. Like I

1778
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,720
figured everything out within a couple hours. It's so sweet

1779
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,439
and short. I just think it's adorable and I was

1780
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,279
really excited about it, so yeah, that wash time flies.

1781
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,359
Speaker 3: Check it outes have you been playing?

1782
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, give it to baby girl? What else you got

1783
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:19,760
playing on?

1784
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 4: I have a couple of other short ones.

1785
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna talk about this again.

1786
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,199
Speaker 4: I already talked about Peak. I played Peak more.

1787
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: It's awesome good.

1788
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 4: They added the ability to eat people.

1789
01:21:36,119 --> 01:21:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1790
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a cannibalism ad, which is so fucking funny

1791
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,079
because now even like you can basically like kill people

1792
01:21:42,199 --> 01:21:44,720
intentionally so you can eat them, which I love. I

1793
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,239
played Undermine too. I think, Dan, did you recommend this

1794
01:21:48,279 --> 01:21:49,000
to me as well?

1795
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:52,199
Speaker 1: I think give you a code or something like that.

1796
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,079
Speaker 5: I played Undermine too.

1797
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,359
Speaker 4: This is I never played Undermine, so unfortunately, I'm like,

1798
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:59,920
not the perfect person to give.

1799
01:22:00,279 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: But it is.

1800
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 4: A rogue light where you like die. Once you die,

1801
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,399
you have to start all the way from the beginning,

1802
01:22:09,079 --> 01:22:14,079
and you I haven't gotten too far in it. I

1803
01:22:14,119 --> 01:22:16,079
think I have only gotten to the second area. It's

1804
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:18,479
freaking hard, which is one of my issues with it.

1805
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,319
But I do like the idea that you essentially kill stuff.

1806
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,119
There's lots of secrets in each area so that you

1807
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:29,960
can build your persona and you pray to gods that

1808
01:22:30,039 --> 01:22:33,079
you can add different traits to yourself, like longer life,

1809
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:36,479
or maybe like you hit stronger, or you have more magic.

1810
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:39,640
And you come across different deities and you have to

1811
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,840
pick one of two special items that you get, which

1812
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,520
are randomized. Sometimes it's things like more luck, Sometimes it's

1813
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,279
things like pierce. Sometimes I don't know. Sometimes it's bad

1814
01:22:50,359 --> 01:22:52,680
and like really not helpful at all, and I found

1815
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,199
that really strange. But anyway, I'm still kind of getting

1816
01:22:56,199 --> 01:22:57,560
through it a little bit. I think I need more

1817
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,319
time with it. I've probably only put like seven hours.

1818
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 5: Into it, but I.

1819
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 4: Think it has potential. I like the fact that you're

1820
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,439
like in all these areas. You also once you kill

1821
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,279
every you cannot leave the room. Once you kill everything

1822
01:23:10,359 --> 01:23:13,880
that's important, and then once you do that, you can

1823
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,000
explore the room to mine it for gold, look for

1824
01:23:17,079 --> 01:23:20,840
secrets in the walls. And there's always a boss fight

1825
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,199
I think at like the end of three rounds, and

1826
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:27,119
the boss fights are pretty intense. There's a moth boss

1827
01:23:27,159 --> 01:23:29,720
for the first boss. It doesn't change out though it's

1828
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,960
the same boss each time. So it's a bit repetitive.

1829
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: Is this early access? I feel like, shit, it was, yeah, yeah, okay.

1830
01:23:38,039 --> 01:23:40,399
Speaker 4: We usually don't review games that are early access. I

1831
01:23:40,399 --> 01:23:42,760
think I only did this because you sent it to me.

1832
01:23:43,319 --> 01:23:45,600
It feels early access now that you say that, I.

1833
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: Actually it is. I'm looking at now, yeah.

1834
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 4: Because I think that in a game like this, because

1835
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,680
it's so repetitive Robe Light, you really have to exchange

1836
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,479
different bosses. That way, you're not playing the same boss

1837
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,800
fight over and over and over again.

1838
01:23:57,159 --> 01:24:00,520
Speaker 2: I bet you even games that I'm in sitting because

1839
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,039
I played a bit of Undermine one and liked it,

1840
01:24:02,399 --> 01:24:05,359
but I typically don't play them in early access. I

1841
01:24:05,359 --> 01:24:06,840
didn't do Hades To do Hades to.

1842
01:24:07,079 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: Really, I didn't do either.

1843
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 2: Rogue Legacy was when I tried, because I love the

1844
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,800
first Rogue Legacy so much, and two was just like, Okay,

1845
01:24:14,039 --> 01:24:15,840
this is cool, and once I start getting into it,

1846
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,079
it's like, oh, hey, keep an eye on our roadmap.

1847
01:24:18,119 --> 01:24:20,439
We'll do more. And I really don't like that feeling

1848
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,399
at all. So it's like, I feel like, if I

1849
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,199
have any interest in the game, I always just kind

1850
01:24:24,199 --> 01:24:26,520
of wait till the one point zero, and I wonder

1851
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:27,760
if it's a similar situation.

1852
01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:31,279
Speaker 1: Play Rogue Legacy two again episodes ago.

1853
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,159
Speaker 4: We did talk about it a few episodes.

1854
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, we've we've definitely talked about early access games,

1855
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,680
but maybe not like in development early access it's just

1856
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:42,319
not something.

1857
01:24:42,119 --> 01:24:43,359
Speaker 5: We usually make a habit out of.

1858
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 4: And I think like Haites two is a really good

1859
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,039
example of that, because everyone was talking about it and

1860
01:24:49,039 --> 01:24:50,640
we were like, you know, I'd just rather wait until

1861
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:51,119
it comes out?

1862
01:24:51,239 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, does I have a release date?

1863
01:24:53,359 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 3: Is it?

1864
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: This is not this year? Is it is that this year?

1865
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Speaker 3: May?

1866
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,079
Speaker 1: No? Okay, like that.

1867
01:24:58,079 --> 01:25:00,199
Speaker 2: Was like even last year, like John Bombs Game of

1868
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:02,560
the Year. People were raving about it and it sounded awesome. Honestly,

1869
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,439
everything people were saying like made me really want to

1870
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,960
play it. But it's like I will be thankful that,

1871
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,359
Like I'm never hurting for things to play, I will

1872
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:10,720
be thankful that I wait until it's done.

1873
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: When does Hades to one Point oh come out?

1874
01:25:17,159 --> 01:25:17,520
Speaker 1: Release?

1875
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:18,039
Speaker 3: Uh?

1876
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,159
Speaker 1: September? Okay? No?

1877
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:22,359
Speaker 2: Wait, no, there's no way.

1878
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,359
Speaker 1: It's not PC games end who I don't trust ever? Sorry?

1879
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:31,239
That is it's early twenty twenty six or end of

1880
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:31,680
this year.

1881
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like we'd probably hear something this.

1882
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 3: Year two months ago just subreddit. There's the last major update.

1883
01:25:41,279 --> 01:25:47,000
It was out, so it's close, I guess, and I

1884
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,039
guess you could play it now.

1885
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,319
Speaker 2: I'll play it soon.

1886
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still have not played Peak.

1887
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:56,359
Speaker 2: It's awesome.

1888
01:25:56,399 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: It's great.

1889
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,279
Speaker 2: It's just it's one of those games. It's like a

1890
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,640
million different games that it's just like, boy, it would

1891
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,199
be awesome to get a bunch of people together and

1892
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:03,920
play this. But like Mary, I think you're good at this.

1893
01:26:04,399 --> 01:26:06,520
Like you, you tend to get groups together and play

1894
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,600
and play things frequently, and I do like.

1895
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 5: To poke friends with it.

1896
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: I am.

1897
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 4: We actually been calling it friends slop. I don't know

1898
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,319
if anyone like I've seen people say about that genre before,

1899
01:26:15,399 --> 01:26:18,039
but friendslop is like the idea that like, maybe on

1900
01:26:18,079 --> 01:26:20,560
your own it probably wouldn't be that amazing, but you

1901
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,239
get four people together and fuck around all night and

1902
01:26:24,279 --> 01:26:26,880
it doesn't it doesn't matter if you do good.

1903
01:26:27,159 --> 01:26:29,319
Speaker 5: It's like irrelevant if you win.

1904
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 4: The point is is that you're fucking around with your

1905
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,239
friends and like drinking and having a good time together.

1906
01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:36,760
It's just something to domp.

1907
01:26:37,079 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: So rare that I'm able to do that, like usually

1908
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,039
it's with like Giant Bomb, Like, Hey, during the day,

1909
01:26:41,039 --> 01:26:42,159
this is what we do. So it's like you know,

1910
01:26:42,319 --> 01:26:47,039
repo things like that. Yeah, but yeah, it's just like

1911
01:26:47,079 --> 01:26:49,199
at night. I just it seems like it be hard,

1912
01:26:49,239 --> 01:26:53,159
Like I just never play multiplayer games, you know, like

1913
01:26:53,239 --> 01:26:54,920
it seems like it be a hard thing to put together.

1914
01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:57,359
You know, I think we're very busy. A lot of

1915
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,600
we're busy. If a work, It's just like, I don't

1916
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:02,439
they would be hard to get a group together where

1917
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,680
everybody could do it, you know. Yeah, they're fun. I

1918
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:06,279
love that stuff.

1919
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Are there any other games?

1920
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:14,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's people. Uh, Dan you were, Oh yeah, don't worry,

1921
01:27:14,399 --> 01:27:18,439
I'm I'm the host now, Dan, Ninja Gayden, Yeah.

1922
01:27:18,359 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 2: Ninja Kaid. Rage Bound is really cool. It's yeah, Mike,

1923
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:23,000
you're back.

1924
01:27:23,079 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: You're back in distract them. Yeah.

1925
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the old NES series and I'm

1926
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,640
a fan of the Three d Ones. And this is

1927
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,359
definitely obviously hearkening back to more like it's weird, it's

1928
01:27:35,359 --> 01:27:37,439
tarketing back to Dannys and that it's a side scrolling

1929
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,399
action game, but the look of it is way more.

1930
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,359
It kind of looks like a pixel art Saturn two

1931
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,880
D game, it's incredible pixel art. It's the people that

1932
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,640
made Blasphemous. So, like I thought Blasphemous was a cool game.

1933
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,399
I loved the art and everything, but I just like,

1934
01:27:53,079 --> 01:27:55,600
I don't know, the from Style thing isn't always my

1935
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,239
favorite deal and that was kind of that like From Style,

1936
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:00,159
but in two D this is just kind of a

1937
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:02,920
throwback and it's more like a Messenger type you know

1938
01:28:03,079 --> 01:28:04,399
in Ninja side.

1939
01:28:04,199 --> 01:28:07,359
Speaker 4: Scrolling the Messenger. Is it actually like the Messenger?

1940
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1941
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,520
Speaker 2: Really, Like I don't think you need to have any

1942
01:28:10,359 --> 01:28:12,520
nostalgia for Ninja guid In at all to like it

1943
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,960
because it's like the stuff it does is like you know,

1944
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,560
in the Messenger you could do that kind of like

1945
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,640
Perry jump off of like almost that cup Heead style like.

1946
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 5: Jumps in hed The Messenger was the time Ship.

1947
01:28:23,359 --> 01:28:25,399
Speaker 2: Well the big shift, like the big twist thing like

1948
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:32,960
this does not do that. But again, wow, you want to.

1949
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,319
Speaker 1: Talk about it Shindler's list. While you're at it, you

1950
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,000
talk about who Darth Vader is.

1951
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 2: No, it's it is fairly straightforward. It is like tough

1952
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,600
platforming action ninja stuff and then really tough cool boss fights.

1953
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,960
It's very much the like get your ass kick the

1954
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,800
first time, learn a little bit more of the second time,

1955
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,239
come back and be to the third or fourth time.

1956
01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:57,239
On the Bosses, you are like the ninja guy Kinji

1957
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,479
in body, but there's also the spirit of this Komori,

1958
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,439
this like ninja girl that like they have different abilities

1959
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,279
and their parts were like you're utilizing both. It's like,

1960
01:29:05,319 --> 01:29:07,479
you know it's a ha and a ka if you've

1961
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,880
played des Stranding, but it plays off that stuff really cool.

1962
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:14,319
Speaker 1: Cause also like Egyptian philosophy.

1963
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 3: I think it's Kajima, but yeah, it's uh he's just

1964
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,079
co opting these ancient beliefs.

1965
01:29:20,199 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: That's so funny.

1966
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

1967
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: But no, Mary, I think if you like The Messenger,

1968
01:29:24,039 --> 01:29:26,520
I think you you could definitely find some stuff to like.

1969
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:27,079
Speaker 1: Harry. It is.

1970
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 2: The difficulty is just perfectly balanced. I think where it's

1971
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,840
just hard enough to where I'm kind of struggling, but

1972
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,199
when you win, it feels like you won something. It's

1973
01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:39,199
just a beautiful game. Great soundtrack does Ninja Guide and Proud,

1974
01:29:40,279 --> 01:29:42,239
it's a good Ninja Guiden near you know, as someone

1975
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:45,600
who likes that series. Getting new TD one, new two

1976
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,199
D one here, getting a new three D one with

1977
01:29:48,199 --> 01:29:50,560
with four coming out, and I got a Ninja Gaiden

1978
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,119
two Black remake of so like man for a series

1979
01:29:53,159 --> 01:29:55,319
that has kind of come and gone at weird intervals,

1980
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,439
it's this is a big year of Ninja Guidance, so

1981
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:58,159
I'm a fan.

1982
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,359
Speaker 5: Okay, that's cool.

1983
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 4: I really did love The Messenger, but I never played

1984
01:30:04,039 --> 01:30:06,680
Ninja Guiden, so like, it's not it's not for me.

1985
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,479
For like the nostalgia, it would have to be like

1986
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,319
a good game on its own, independent of all that

1987
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,359
cool background stuff, child stuff.

1988
01:30:14,399 --> 01:30:16,239
Speaker 2: And again, if they didn't even have Ninja Guiden in

1989
01:30:16,279 --> 01:30:18,159
the title, I would feel the exact same way about it,

1990
01:30:18,199 --> 01:30:20,159
because again, it doesn't even really look like the old

1991
01:30:20,199 --> 01:30:22,920
NAS games or play that much like them, So it's

1992
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,119
kind of not nostalgia at all.

1993
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:24,359
Speaker 1: For me.

1994
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,319
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, here's like a new, good two

1995
01:30:26,359 --> 01:30:28,039
D Ninja game. I think you would like it a lot.

1996
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:32,359
Speaker 4: Okay, the last one for me, I'm gonna say briefly

1997
01:30:32,359 --> 01:30:37,600
because I've only played five hours, so I'm still too

1998
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,920
early to like really say if this is good. But Mike,

1999
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:46,359
mikey uh. There is a new nineties survival horror called Heartworm.

2000
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,800
It is very much in the vein of Resident Evil one.

2001
01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:55,800
What I think is cool so far about it is

2002
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,560
it lets you play uh with tank control or not

2003
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:06,279
an atlants, you play like with like really old PS

2004
01:31:06,359 --> 01:31:09,439
one graphics or PS two graphics, Like you can kind

2005
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,600
of choose how old school you want this experience to be.

2006
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Like the pause menu is Reson Evil one.

2007
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 4: It is it is literally Resident Evil of like your

2008
01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:21,039
Health the health.

2009
01:31:21,079 --> 01:31:23,239
Speaker 1: The health descriptions also are the same. Fine.

2010
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,359
Speaker 4: I think you can have six items and it's brutal

2011
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,119
because like so many times I was like I desperately

2012
01:31:29,159 --> 01:31:33,199
need this item, and I I didn't have any space.

2013
01:31:33,279 --> 01:31:35,359
You have to like throw away items or like get

2014
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,079
you have to get to a trunk to put your

2015
01:31:37,079 --> 01:31:39,560
items away, and they're only you can only.

2016
01:31:39,359 --> 01:31:41,159
Speaker 5: Save in the save spaces.

2017
01:31:41,239 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 4: So very similar puzzles akin to Resident Evil there was

2018
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,600
like this one or or Silent Health, And I also

2019
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,800
think it has a lot of Silent Hills story to it,

2020
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,319
where she's just like I've always thought about death.

2021
01:31:54,399 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 5: She sounds like that girl from Edward Scissorhands.

2022
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 4: I've always been strange and un usual, and I always

2023
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,560
thought about dying. And so I'm going to go to

2024
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,960
this place and find out what death is really like.

2025
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:12,199
And so she's essentially deciding to go into this other

2026
01:32:12,399 --> 01:32:17,279
universe intentionally because she wants to know what I don't

2027
01:32:17,319 --> 01:32:20,239
know what's on the other side of life. And so

2028
01:32:20,319 --> 01:32:24,359
you're in an underworld, which I think is more akin

2029
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,439
to Silent Hill, you know, like a like a dark world,

2030
01:32:29,079 --> 01:32:33,319
and it has memories of her from her childhood and

2031
01:32:33,359 --> 01:32:36,680
her life, but they're distorted and fucked up, and there's monsters.

2032
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:43,399
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, it combines fixed camera with over the shoulder

2033
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:44,399
I'm reading in the description.

2034
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:45,159
Speaker 1: How does that work.

2035
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:52,239
Speaker 4: I think that it's mostly those styled camera shots that

2036
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:56,720
are still that make it look cinematic, which I like

2037
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:58,239
and I've always thought we're really cool.

2038
01:32:58,880 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: No.

2039
01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:02,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, the description on Steam says it combines over the

2040
01:33:02,199 --> 01:33:03,039
shoulder and fixed camera.

2041
01:33:03,119 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm curious, like when it.

2042
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,239
Speaker 4: Goes all fix Campbell. I. I don't really remember over

2043
01:33:07,279 --> 01:33:10,359
the shoulder yet, but I will say there was this

2044
01:33:10,399 --> 01:33:13,720
one time where I go into an alleyway and the

2045
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,840
camera moves from like a bird's eye view as I'm

2046
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:21,279
running to like get closer to me, which I thought

2047
01:33:21,319 --> 01:33:24,000
was really cool and cinematics, so it like moves around

2048
01:33:24,119 --> 01:33:26,359
based on like what works for me, But most of

2049
01:33:26,359 --> 01:33:29,279
the time I think it's still okay.

2050
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, another like remember Signalis several.

2051
01:33:33,159 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 4: Years Okay, this is my caveat. This is my caveat.

2052
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,359
I don't think it's as well put together as Signalis.

2053
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,560
I don't And I played Signalis and I loved it.

2054
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,159
I think this game is cool. I just don't think

2055
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:50,800
it's as scary. I don't think it has as many

2056
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:55,199
components as Signalis. But I still think it's interesting and

2057
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,520
and I like that they're they're trying to make like

2058
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,720
a nineties horror, So if you're into nineties horr, I

2059
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,199
think this could be worth checking out. But I think

2060
01:34:01,199 --> 01:34:03,920
Signalis is like set a real high bar. I have

2061
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:04,600
to admit that.

2062
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Any other games.

2063
01:34:10,119 --> 01:34:12,279
Speaker 2: I'm at a game I will talk next one about

2064
01:34:12,279 --> 01:34:13,880
the one? Well, I can say it is Meddle, your

2065
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,920
Snake Eater remake. I played through in New York, so

2066
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:18,359
have either review.

2067
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I guess it's more for Dan. I don't think it

2068
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:21,880
would be your kind of game. Mary. Have you played

2069
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,800
Mafia the Old Country at all? Apparently it's good.

2070
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,159
Speaker 2: I heard not the hottest stuff on it.

2071
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:32,079
Speaker 1: Really, reviews I'm seeing are like Eights. Okay, I haven't

2072
01:34:32,079 --> 01:34:35,640
touched it. I just I've always tried to like that series.

2073
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,199
Speaker 3: But I like the idea that this is actually in

2074
01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:40,199
Sicily and what nineteen hundred or something seems appealing, Cam,

2075
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:40,680
I check it out.

2076
01:34:41,239 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to have a dearth of games.

2077
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:47,159
Speaker 3: I've been playing a very long game for work that

2078
01:34:47,279 --> 01:34:48,159
I'll be able to talk about.

2079
01:34:48,279 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: I guess down the road, where's your dearth? Where's myth?

2080
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:53,119
Speaker 2: Loser?

2081
01:34:53,479 --> 01:35:00,159
Speaker 4: Right here, he doesn't have a death of games.

2082
01:35:00,199 --> 01:35:04,079
Speaker 2: Actually shivered when I heard someone start singing just now, God.

2083
01:35:05,039 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 3: I think you're maybe you're afraid that maybe you're just

2084
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,079
afraid of how much you deep down actually love music.

2085
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,279
Speaker 2: That's probably that's probably what's going on.

2086
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 4: Music lover only be able to appreciate things if they're

2087
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:19,439
sung to me.

2088
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's the second half of my life?

2089
01:35:22,239 --> 01:35:22,560
Speaker 1: Is that?

2090
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Just wait, it's coming.

2091
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:26,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

2092
01:35:26,399 --> 01:35:31,079
Speaker 3: There's a joke in theater Camp where the like basically, Okay,

2093
01:35:31,079 --> 01:35:33,279
so I do want you guys to watch this movie.

2094
01:35:33,399 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: It's it's funny. You don't have to be a theater kid.

2095
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:35,520
It's hilarious.

2096
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 3: It's basically Amy Sidaris the mom. She is the head

2097
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,840
of Adirondo Act. It's an acting camp in the Adirondecks.

2098
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,399
She has a seizure and goes into a coma. So

2099
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:53,239
her son Troy, who is Jimmy tetrou like biggest bro ever,

2100
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,800
has to go take over the camp and keep it afloat.

2101
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:57,600
And everybody hates him because he's a bro and it's

2102
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,279
a theater camp. And he's asking me he's just a

2103
01:36:00,399 --> 01:36:03,159
dumb ass. And he's asking this dude, Glenn, who is

2104
01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:07,960
the stage like a stage manager. He's like so, he's like, yeah,

2105
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,000
so this year's this year's play is a music, a

2106
01:36:11,039 --> 01:36:14,279
straight play. He's like, wait, so what is this straight plays?

2107
01:36:14,319 --> 01:36:15,960
I guess there's just no music. He's like, what would

2108
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:21,319
a gay play be? He's like, a musical. It's a

2109
01:36:21,399 --> 01:36:22,199
very funny movie.

2110
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:23,279
Speaker 5: That's pretty funny.

2111
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 3: Also, Caroline Aaron, Am I fucking that up? Caroline Aaron

2112
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,239
raspy voice, she's in it. She's really funny.

2113
01:36:30,079 --> 01:36:32,159
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've pitched that movie enof you. Sh'd

2114
01:36:32,159 --> 01:36:32,640
watch it if you?

2115
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:36,159
Speaker 3: Uh, it's like an hour and a half comedy mockumentary.

2116
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: Anyway, do you want to talk about emails?

2117
01:36:39,119 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, technology, Yeah.

2118
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: This bit is fun. I do it all the time.

2119
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,039
Speaker 3: Okay, as usual, you can write into fire Scape Past

2120
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:51,439
at gmail dot com for any questions or comments or

2121
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,640
concerns you want read on the show. We never read

2122
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,439
the concerns, but questions are fair game. Uh, that's fire

2123
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:00,880
Escape Past at gmail dot com.

2124
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:01,199
Speaker 1: Mary.

2125
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,560
Speaker 3: Actually, Mary, I'll no, yeah, Mary, do you want to

2126
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,439
read this first one? The first one's not a question,

2127
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,880
It is a shout out?

2128
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 4: Sure, Hello fire Casters. Oh I like that. Just I know,

2129
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:22,119
I feel like we earned that. Fire Caster. All right,

2130
01:37:22,399 --> 01:37:25,600
Hello fire Caster. Just wanted to say how much I've

2131
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,920
enjoyed your podcast over the years, and I was hoping

2132
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,239
you could give a shout out to my wife as

2133
01:37:30,279 --> 01:37:31,960
we will soon be on a road trip to go

2134
01:37:32,039 --> 01:37:38,680
see Oasis in Chicago celebrating our thirtieth wedding anniversary. It

2135
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:43,399
is what a huge feat and seeing Oasis sounds amazed.

2136
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,840
I would love to see Oasis.

2137
01:37:46,079 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know, Yeah, that'd be amazing. I grew

2138
01:37:48,079 --> 01:37:49,520
up with them anyway, Sorry, there's more.

2139
01:37:50,279 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 4: When we go on trips, she often asks if we

2140
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,920
can listen to those goofy people on my podcast, the

2141
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,439
one with the guy who eats eggshells thinking they are

2142
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,439
egg whites. Actually my I've bought one of Dan's books

2143
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,359
after listening to him on one of our trips discussing

2144
01:38:04,359 --> 01:38:07,479
his anxiety on the podcast. She used to be an

2145
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,039
avid gamer back in the day, excelling in games like

2146
01:38:10,119 --> 01:38:16,399
Half Life, Unreal Tournament, Elemental, Gearbolt, Phantasmagoria, Mortal Kombat, among others.

2147
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:21,159
But these days it's Pegl, just Pegl, only Pegl.

2148
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,319
Speaker 5: But I have the inspiration.

2149
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Are ok, Darryl need to rescue Pegel?

2150
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 2: Nope?

2151
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 4: But I have been an avid gamer since the seventies

2152
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:39,000
and I still gain most of old consoles h and

2153
01:38:39,039 --> 01:38:41,960
I have the current ones. I think I spent too

2154
01:38:42,039 --> 01:38:45,720
much money and time on the hobby these days. AnyWho,

2155
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,600
I wanted to give my wife a good shout out

2156
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,760
for putting up with my gaming over the years and

2157
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,199
never really complaining about it.

2158
01:38:52,399 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 5: Thank you, Debbie. Happy anniversary.

2159
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:59,159
Speaker 3: I love you, Darryl, Happy anniversary.

2160
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 5: That's a sweetest female.

2161
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: Almost as long as I've been alive thirty years.

2162
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 4: High bar for a good anniversary shout out, I mean

2163
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:15,479
good work. Yeah. First of all, I just want to say, Debbie,

2164
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,079
you have been gaming for so long and you have

2165
01:39:18,119 --> 01:39:21,399
such a good history of gaming you have earned just

2166
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:26,279
being a retired PEGL gamer. You can just play Pegel

2167
01:39:26,399 --> 01:39:29,960
now and recognize that that is what you love. And

2168
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,520
I think that's cool and so I hope you enjoy Pegel.

2169
01:39:34,399 --> 01:39:37,920
If you like Pegel, I am going to recommend Peglin,

2170
01:39:38,319 --> 01:39:41,640
which is Pegel. But you are also like a little

2171
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:46,279
goblin going on an adventure pegl goodness, so I think

2172
01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:49,840
you would like that. But no pressure. Happy anniversary.

2173
01:39:50,279 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: Also, what are your thoughts on Hamilton? Thank you Darryl.

2174
01:39:54,079 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 3: Dan do you we did trim this one a bit.

2175
01:39:57,319 --> 01:40:01,039
We got kind of straight to the question and Jeff,

2176
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,840
we just wanted to trim it for the intense for

2177
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,800
the purposes of this section. But Dan, if you want

2178
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,279
to read this second one from Jeff.

2179
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hello fire Gang, longtime listener, multiple time right in.

2180
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,960
As you've grown older, how have you learned to cope

2181
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:17,319
with changing friend dynamics as people's lives change, careers, moving, marriage,

2182
01:40:17,319 --> 01:40:19,680
et cetera, as well as learning to let go and

2183
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,159
move on when your relationship with someone changes so much

2184
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:24,199
that it can't be rekindled or is best left for

2185
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,920
a reconnection later in life. Thanks again for always making

2186
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,399
the workday go faster. Or my evening walks less lonely

2187
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:33,199
that is Jeff, Yeah, that's let's a get older. That's

2188
01:40:33,239 --> 01:40:34,960
definitely a thing. It's like I feel like in college,

2189
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,760
especially like you know, everyone's socializing all the time. You

2190
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,439
all live in the same city, you know, you're all

2191
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:41,560
like living in the same dorm and stuff like that.

2192
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,840
And I think post college is where that can drift

2193
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,560
apart in things. And I think about that fairly frequently

2194
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,319
because like I think I'm guilty of like if someone's

2195
01:40:50,359 --> 01:40:53,439
not in my immediate vision cone you know, if it's

2196
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,119
not someone I work with every day or I live with,

2197
01:40:56,399 --> 01:40:58,800
or or is in my city and you know I

2198
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,159
run into and hang out with frequently, I am the

2199
01:41:01,159 --> 01:41:04,199
Pott guilty of. Yeah, exactly, Like I'm kind of guilty

2200
01:41:04,199 --> 01:41:06,399
of like I'm not always the first one to reach

2201
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,720
out or keep up, you know, and it's never I

2202
01:41:09,159 --> 01:41:10,840
do worry about that because like I don't want any

2203
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,239
of my friends to think that like I'm not reaching

2204
01:41:13,239 --> 01:41:15,079
out because like I don't care anymore or anything like that.

2205
01:41:15,159 --> 01:41:17,760
It's just like I so kind of have to live

2206
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,159
in the here and now, like maybe to a fault

2207
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,239
where it's like just moment to moment, and so that

2208
01:41:22,319 --> 01:41:25,479
just means the people you know, you guys, Giant Bomb guys, Bonk,

2209
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,119
you know Ben, folks here in Minnesota, things like that.

2210
01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:29,920
But it's like I have so many friends from all

2211
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,119
these places I've lived and jobs I've had and everything

2212
01:41:32,119 --> 01:41:34,920
that like I'm probably not reaching out to it all

2213
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,600
and they probably are like, oh, I wonder if you're

2214
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,279
still friends with me or something, and like the answer

2215
01:41:38,279 --> 01:41:41,119
is almost always yes. Like I have very few people

2216
01:41:41,159 --> 01:41:42,800
that I like, am like I don't want to talk

2217
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:44,359
to that person, you know, so.

2218
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I hope most people now understand how

2219
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:53,680
tiring it can be to keep up with everybody. I

2220
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,760
feel like most of my friends. I don't have any

2221
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,840
friends that are dicks about it, like, hey, you don't

2222
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:58,680
really talk to me anymore.

2223
01:41:59,279 --> 01:42:01,039
Speaker 2: I've had some that are like, oh, I guess we're

2224
01:42:01,079 --> 01:42:03,720
not friends, like or like I'll hear through a third

2225
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,079
party that like, oh, yeah, you know this person thinks

2226
01:42:06,079 --> 01:42:08,319
that like, oh you know, Dan was in town. He

2227
01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:09,800
didn't reach out. It's like, well yeah, but it's like

2228
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,640
a stressful thing for me. It's like, especially when I traveled,

2229
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,560
and it's like like I was in San Francisco and

2230
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,479
New York just recently, and I was there for two

2231
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,920
nights each time, and most of that time was with

2232
01:42:19,039 --> 01:42:22,039
work stuff I had to do. And I did socialize

2233
01:42:22,039 --> 01:42:24,560
in both instances, but certainly not with everyone at like

2234
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,760
what every city I go to, I'm not going to

2235
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,319
text everyone I know and try to figure out timing.

2236
01:42:29,359 --> 01:42:31,439
It's just like, so I hope I get up in

2237
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:32,840
my head about that. In fact, the New York trip

2238
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:34,239
was really kind of stressed me out because it's like

2239
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,039
I know a lot of people in New York and

2240
01:42:36,079 --> 01:42:38,119
I had very limited time and didn't know how much

2241
01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:40,119
free time I'd be, like, I hope people don't think like,

2242
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:41,800
oh I saw Dan was in town. He didn't even

2243
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,119
reach out, And it's like it's never that like, oh

2244
01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:45,680
I don't want to hang out with you.

2245
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,079
Speaker 3: It's just that, like, I appreciate you reach out to me.

2246
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,520
I did, middle Finger. It's all your other friends he

2247
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,880
didn't reach out to. Absolutely, we didn't hang out.

2248
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 2: Though you are the one they was busy.

2249
01:42:55,039 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to I got apologies if

2250
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,119
this sounds I'm purposely trying to be vague because I'm

2251
01:43:04,119 --> 01:43:06,640
respecting someone's privacy, Dan, I texted you about this.

2252
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 1: I have a friend.

2253
01:43:11,399 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 3: Who I like grew up with it was very close

2254
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,840
to until I was like went to college basically.

2255
01:43:18,239 --> 01:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Had a few hiccups with.

2256
01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 3: His friend growing up in those eighteen years where I

2257
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,159
was like, oh, that was kind of a shitty thing,

2258
01:43:24,199 --> 01:43:25,359
and you know, like we didn't hang out, but we

2259
01:43:25,359 --> 01:43:27,159
were always like every time we hung out, it felt

2260
01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:32,680
like we had never stopped. Basically recently got some very

2261
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:38,840
very bad news from them in no uncertain terms, like

2262
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:43,039
their health is like steeply declining where it's the point

2263
01:43:43,079 --> 01:43:47,439
where I'm like, you know, getting ready to say goodbye,

2264
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,720
which is nuts. So that was weird because we have

2265
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,560
not kept in touch a lot in the intervening year

2266
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:58,680
since high school, so they kind of came back out

2267
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,239
of woodwork to tell me this news. So it's a

2268
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:06,319
very kind of complex relationship now, like in many ways

2269
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,199
because I'm trying to figure out I was like, oh, yeah, wow,

2270
01:44:10,319 --> 01:44:12,920
it's not only a friend that I had kind of

2271
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,640
emotionally moved on from and didn't worry about keeping up with.

2272
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:19,479
All of a sudden, now they're back in a very

2273
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,279
intense way, and you know, like I want to you know,

2274
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,760
talk to them and be there for them all the time.

2275
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,279
So it's like, I guess to answer the emails question,

2276
01:44:26,319 --> 01:44:28,960
it's like, you don't fucking know what's going to happen

2277
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,039
in the future with like maybe people, people will come

2278
01:44:31,039 --> 01:44:32,960
back in your life, and I'm sure.

2279
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,199
Speaker 1: Of it, people will leave. I don't know.

2280
01:44:35,239 --> 01:44:39,319
Speaker 3: I think we're I think if you feel bad about

2281
01:44:39,359 --> 01:44:41,319
not keeping up with someone, that's probably a sign that

2282
01:44:41,359 --> 01:44:43,159
you care about them a lot, and maybe you should

2283
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:45,079
try to. It can be tiring to keep up with people,

2284
01:44:45,079 --> 01:44:46,960
but like, I don't know, I feel like it's a

2285
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,520
trust your gut thing. Like if it's if you are

2286
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,720
feeling guilty that you're not keeping up with a specific person,

2287
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,279
that's probably a sign that they mean a lot to you,

2288
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,520
and maybe you should every once in a while put

2289
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,279
some time aside to text them. If like you go

2290
01:44:59,319 --> 01:45:01,239
to a city, like and said, It's like I went

2291
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:05,520
to San Francisco and I found out that like so

2292
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,279
and so was pissed I didn't hang out with them.

2293
01:45:07,319 --> 01:45:08,399
I was like, oh, I didn't even think of them

2294
01:45:08,399 --> 01:45:11,119
when I went there. It's probably you know, they have

2295
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:12,760
a higher opinion of me than I do of them.

2296
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. That doesn't keep me up

2297
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:20,079
at night, but yeah, I don't know. I like.

2298
01:45:20,399 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 3: I would also say video games are pretty good like that.

2299
01:45:23,039 --> 01:45:26,039
I have certain friends I only catch up with through

2300
01:45:26,119 --> 01:45:29,840
video games, Like they can be a good medium friendswap whatever.

2301
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 4: Stay in touch and thoughtful of each other without having

2302
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,760
to be like what it's all the ship in your

2303
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,800
life about? You know, like sometimes you just want to

2304
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:38,920
see someone and catch.

2305
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Up and say hi, yeah, yeah, and and like yeah.

2306
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:44,359
Speaker 3: And I would also say, like, you don't know what

2307
01:45:44,399 --> 01:45:45,760
new hobbies you're going to pick up that are going

2308
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,680
to make you want to reach back out to someone.

2309
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:53,159
I have people that now that I'm into like musicals,

2310
01:45:53,239 --> 01:45:55,520
I talk to a lot more now.

2311
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people you talk to less now that.

2312
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 4: They cut us off immediately.

2313
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be phased out of fire Escape.

2314
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:04,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2315
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to look at the legality a

2316
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:07,760
super majority vote here.

2317
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, genuine question.

2318
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 3: I'm so curious, Like I feel like before this episode,

2319
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,560
if the audience had been pulled which one of us

2320
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,079
likes musicals, I highly doubt I would have gotten the

2321
01:46:17,079 --> 01:46:17,680
most votes.

2322
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 2: It would have been it definitely would have been made

2323
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,279
so it would have had to be merry. Then I

2324
01:46:22,319 --> 01:46:22,960
feel like it would have.

2325
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 1: Been merry, like that's what.

2326
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,199
Speaker 5: You like musicals?

2327
01:46:25,399 --> 01:46:28,319
Speaker 1: If yeah, I think yeah.

2328
01:46:28,039 --> 01:46:31,279
Speaker 10: I think that's uh dislike or like sorry, Just so

2329
01:46:31,319 --> 01:46:35,279
I understand if if people like before this episode were like, hey,

2330
01:46:35,359 --> 01:46:38,159
one of the fire escape musicals.

2331
01:46:38,199 --> 01:46:40,560
Speaker 2: Look, there's no fucking chance anybody would vote me, so

2332
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:41,039
it's one out.

2333
01:46:41,319 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 4: I agree, But I think it's unfair to assume me

2334
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,119
because I don't think there's a lot of like preconceived

2335
01:46:46,119 --> 01:46:48,119
notions that I would like musicals. In fact, I think

2336
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:49,760
there would be a lot of assumptions that I don't

2337
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,640
like musicals, and the only thing that you would make

2338
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,720
the connection of is like, oh like girl like like

2339
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,960
musical or something like that. But you're the whino. If anything,

2340
01:46:59,039 --> 01:47:02,399
you're patured, you would like I do weird for people

2341
01:47:02,399 --> 01:47:03,119
to assume it's me.

2342
01:47:04,399 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saying deduction, they would have gone with you.

2343
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 2: But but you are the high society fella. That's misogyny.

2344
01:47:11,079 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 1: Baby, you're a woman. I stopped.

2345
01:47:18,399 --> 01:47:20,279
Speaker 2: Was the one who refused to be in our Best

2346
01:47:20,359 --> 01:47:22,560
Old Test episode last last time.

2347
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,039
Speaker 1: So two women, I'm not.

2348
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 5: Going to show up for that ship i'mn eli.

2349
01:47:30,159 --> 01:47:33,640
Speaker 2: People totally would assume it was Mike Yeah, who lives

2350
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,760
in New York City and loves high society stuff. Yeah, weird.

2351
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, we agree, we agree high society stuff. Oh my god, guys,

2352
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:47,720
I need to send you photos.

2353
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: Some literature dork whyo that lives in New York City

2354
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:52,159
and you.

2355
01:47:52,119 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Don't think about you The next email is about literature.

2356
01:47:57,119 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 2: You said you put in there because you wanted to

2357
01:47:58,479 --> 01:47:59,399
talk about literature.

2358
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 1: Don't literally You're right, You're right, You're right. It was

2359
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:05,600
not my most self aware comment.

2360
01:48:06,199 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 5: Thank you.

2361
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I agree, But I need to send you

2362
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,600
photos of some of the most famous wine makers. They

2363
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:18,479
are like like dumpy farmers with like yeah, wearing like

2364
01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:22,800
stone Cold Steve Austin shirts. Yeah, I'm not kidding. Yes,

2365
01:48:23,159 --> 01:48:25,680
I'll send you photos. That's not always high society and wine.

2366
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,479
We did open a very big, funny model of wine

2367
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,560
last night. It was funny because it was bigger, was

2368
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,920
he saying, Renolds, and bigger.

2369
01:48:35,039 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: Than playing Yeah, is not your costume.

2370
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 5: You guys think so. But I hang out with poors

2371
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:46,640
all the time.

2372
01:48:47,239 --> 01:48:49,319
Speaker 1: I dumpster dive with beer drinking.

2373
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 2: I buy two hundred dollars invented stone cold shirts off

2374
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,239
eBay to seem cool and poor.

2375
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know we answer Jeff's question at all.

2376
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:02,279
I have a.

2377
01:49:02,399 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 4: Legit answer to this and it is a bit personal.

2378
01:49:05,039 --> 01:49:06,640
But I think that the person that I will talk

2379
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,399
about will understand because we have been such We have

2380
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:11,800
such a cool story, which is when I moved to Portland,

2381
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,720
the people that I knew moved away almost within like

2382
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,640
two months, which was heartbreaking, and they didn't know anyone

2383
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,960
in Portland and I didn't have any buds here anymore,

2384
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:25,800
and that was really hard for me. And uh maybe

2385
01:49:26,079 --> 01:49:30,760
through a mutual friend I am uh, I.

2386
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 5: Was introduced to Dina Nina Freeman.

2387
01:49:33,319 --> 01:49:36,119
Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah, I've interviewed at.

2388
01:49:36,039 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 4: A game studio. Nina is a game designer. She's also

2389
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,199
a Twitch streamer, but she's did you.

2390
01:49:41,319 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: Get her name wrong? Is that how far you've drifted

2391
01:49:44,039 --> 01:49:44,680
Nina Freeman?

2392
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 5: Though I did not say.

2393
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:54,199
Speaker 2: Dina Mary close, you said you said Dina Nina Freeman,

2394
01:49:54,279 --> 01:49:55,640
and I was like, I wonder if that's her?

2395
01:49:55,680 --> 01:50:01,319
Speaker 4: Like Tage, I can't remember everybody's name all the time.

2396
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: Definitely said okay, that was a slip of the tongue.

2397
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 1: It's just so funny that you're talking about how you're

2398
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:08,439
so close.

2399
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:17,079
Speaker 4: Nina, Nina start right now, captured, damn it.

2400
01:50:17,359 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 5: Nina is a game designer. She made Sybil, she made.

2401
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 1: Like gone Home, uh uh Home.

2402
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 4: Uh Tacoma and.

2403
01:50:26,079 --> 01:50:28,359
Speaker 1: How do you do It? She came on aftercon You're.

2404
01:50:28,239 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 4: Right, and we met in May, and so she makes

2405
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,119
these indie games and we met. We became really good friends,

2406
01:50:34,119 --> 01:50:36,119
and we hung out all the time, and we actually

2407
01:50:36,119 --> 01:50:38,680
became very close. And we played through a lot of

2408
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,840
the Silent Hill series together.

2409
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 1: And so silent Hill is a good name, not so silent.

2410
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 4: Hill, and we like talked through all of them.

2411
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,560
Speaker 5: We played all of them, and we became very close.

2412
01:50:47,079 --> 01:50:50,119
Speaker 4: And then I think during the COVID times, her and

2413
01:50:50,159 --> 01:50:52,920
her partner decided to move to the East Coast, where

2414
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:54,840
their family is from.

2415
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 5: It made more sense for them.

2416
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:58,199
Speaker 4: That's where they wanted to be to like actually like

2417
01:50:58,279 --> 01:50:59,760
buy a home and like raise a family, and I

2418
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,600
would it like that really sucks and it's really hard

2419
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,119
for me. We kind of kept in touch, and ultimately

2420
01:51:04,159 --> 01:51:06,960
what ended up happening is is we just stopped talking

2421
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,600
to each other very often, like basically at all. We

2422
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:13,079
really don't catch up as much, and it's very rare,

2423
01:51:13,079 --> 01:51:15,159
but I'd say like once or twice a year we

2424
01:51:15,239 --> 01:51:17,239
will see each other online and be like, oh my god,

2425
01:51:17,239 --> 01:51:20,159
I love you. And I still love her to this day,

2426
01:51:20,199 --> 01:51:22,039
and I think very highly of her, and I know

2427
01:51:22,119 --> 01:51:24,640
her name, and I appreciate her and her work and

2428
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,640
I adore her. But I don't speak to her on

2429
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,680
a weekly or monthly basis anymore. That's just not who

2430
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,640
I am. I usually am talking to the people who

2431
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,479
I'm literally hanging around with, and I've lost that touch.

2432
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:40,199
But she streams still and I lurk in her streams

2433
01:51:40,199 --> 01:51:42,560
sometimes just so I can hear her voice. And I

2434
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,119
don't actually comment or like talk because I don't want

2435
01:51:45,159 --> 01:51:48,319
to like catch up. I just like her, and so

2436
01:51:48,399 --> 01:51:50,760
I just want to say, like, this is my opinion,

2437
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,199
but I'm not good at catching up with people that

2438
01:51:53,279 --> 01:51:55,520
are no longer in my vicinity. There are people that

2439
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,279
I love in my life that I don't talk to anymore.

2440
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:00,359
But it's not because I don't like them, because they

2441
01:52:00,359 --> 01:52:01,880
don't live where I live and I'm not going to

2442
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,840
go get lunch with them, and so I don't. I

2443
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,239
don't slack them, or I don't text them. I don't

2444
01:52:07,319 --> 01:52:10,000
email them, I don't talk to them at all, but

2445
01:52:10,079 --> 01:52:13,119
doesn't mean I don't love them. And so there may

2446
01:52:13,159 --> 01:52:14,920
be people in your life that you want to reach

2447
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,520
back out to, and you can take Mike's events by

2448
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,199
advice and you can reach back out to them, and

2449
01:52:19,239 --> 01:52:21,680
you can try. But if they don't text you back,

2450
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,159
my advice to you is it does not mean that

2451
01:52:24,199 --> 01:52:26,199
they don't care about you and they don't love you.

2452
01:52:26,279 --> 01:52:27,279
Speaker 5: They might be focused on.

2453
01:52:27,239 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 4: What's ahead of them, and you should just enjoy the

2454
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,399
memories that you have with that person and care about

2455
01:52:31,399 --> 01:52:34,520
them as much as you want to. I love people

2456
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:36,800
in my life, and I love people in my past,

2457
01:52:37,159 --> 01:52:40,319
and Nina is someone who I spent really good quality

2458
01:52:40,359 --> 01:52:42,279
times with in my past and I will love her

2459
01:52:42,279 --> 01:52:44,039
forever even if I don't talk to her anymore.

2460
01:52:45,279 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very It sounds like Dina.

2461
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 3: Nina.

2462
01:52:47,079 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Showina.

2463
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:50,279
Speaker 4: Dina and I are super close.

2464
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 1: Text her right now. I'd be like, hey, Dina, how

2465
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:52,920
you doing, dude?

2466
01:52:53,079 --> 01:52:55,319
Speaker 4: If she listens to this, she's gonna be like, you

2467
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:56,359
fucking idiot.

2468
01:52:58,319 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 5: I tried to say.

2469
01:52:59,520 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 4: Something, nigh.

2470
01:53:00,279 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 3: It's Nina Freeman.

2471
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,079
Speaker 5: She made h She made a lot of indie games.

2472
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:07,760
Check them out on Steam.

2473
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:08,560
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jef.

2474
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like you know, I got my old friends.

2475
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:12,600
You know, Jim Turry, he's great.

2476
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:13,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2477
01:53:13,119 --> 01:53:15,239
Speaker 2: I love to like to catch up with Jim Turry

2478
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:16,319
and it's great.

2479
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, competent ship this episode.

2480
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerry Shreyer, Yeah, yeah, good friend.

2481
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Jerry Schreyer myself. Your good wine kind of wine?

2482
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: I got it from a bottle.

2483
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:31,279
Speaker 5: I'd have to go downstairs and get it.

2484
01:53:31,319 --> 01:53:34,279
Speaker 3: You got the wine from a bottle? Yeah, that's often

2485
01:53:34,359 --> 01:53:35,039
how it happens.

2486
01:53:35,119 --> 01:53:37,279
Speaker 2: Didn't ever tried wine from cans? Is that a thing

2487
01:53:37,359 --> 01:53:38,399
that somebody tried to make?

2488
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Ok, good, there's a rose one that was going around.

2489
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 4: I was just in cans.

2490
01:53:46,159 --> 01:53:48,039
Speaker 3: I had a really fucking funny joke there. I'm gonna

2491
01:53:48,039 --> 01:53:50,880
tell you guys about I was walking. I was walking

2492
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,159
through my neighbors To judge of whether or not it's funny, Mike,

2493
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:57,600
I was walking through my neighborhood with uh, some friends,

2494
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:00,920
and a cop rode by on a bicycle and I

2495
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:02,279
said it. I was like, why the fuck do we

2496
01:54:02,319 --> 01:54:04,239
need bicycle cops? And then there was like a two

2497
01:54:04,239 --> 01:54:06,000
second beat, and then I said, and also, how did

2498
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,159
that bicycle become a cop.

2499
01:54:09,359 --> 01:54:11,359
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's pretty good.

2500
01:54:13,199 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 5: I like it.

2501
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,399
Speaker 4: It's not that shrimp fried rice energy, you know what

2502
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:17,159
I mean.

2503
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 2: No, you tell me a Rice, go and give her,

2504
01:54:23,159 --> 01:54:23,720
give her time.

2505
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 1: You tell me a shrimp rice. It's a good bit.

2506
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 4: You tell me a Rice.

2507
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 3: Barry gets up on stage and just fucks up the

2508
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,640
first joke and walks.

2509
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: No ever, Caesar again just walks into the ocean.

2510
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,079
Speaker 4: Are you guys? You're wheel at the crowd serve.

2511
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Here you jump in just pancake on the floor. Yeah,

2512
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:59,119
thank you. Jeff in this podcast, all right.

2513
01:54:59,239 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 2: No, he would say that's his fucking book thing, because yeah,

2514
01:55:03,239 --> 01:55:04,760
because he's not the highest society guy.

2515
01:55:05,159 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 3: You guys have read books before. Okay, I don't know

2516
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,840
you guys might remember this. Uh hey, fire Escape. I

2517
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:13,960
wrote Earli this year about my goal of listening to

2518
01:55:14,039 --> 01:55:16,840
a thousand albums by December. Well, I hit my goal

2519
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:21,279
in May. A thousand albums in five months is crazy.

2520
01:55:22,279 --> 01:55:25,159
Speaker 2: An hour on average, probably, right, Yeah.

2521
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:26,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, you really would have had to have been

2522
01:55:26,439 --> 01:55:28,920
moving on. Okay, Yeah, cool, I listened to the thousand

2523
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:29,680
albums of it December.

2524
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:30,439
Speaker 1: I hit my goal in May.

2525
01:55:30,479 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 3: I listened to all your album recommendations, enjoyed every single

2526
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,479
one awesome, So he probably listened to Evil Friends by

2527
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,319
Porsch Cole Demand, one of my favorites. I've been working

2528
01:55:36,359 --> 01:55:38,479
on a new goal, trying to set aside time to

2529
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:41,119
read every single day. Right now I'm reading The Brothers Karamazov,

2530
01:55:41,159 --> 01:55:42,359
which would take me a long.

2531
01:55:42,199 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 1: Time to read.

2532
01:55:43,199 --> 01:55:45,199
Speaker 3: It's a really fucking good book, but once again, I

2533
01:55:45,239 --> 01:55:47,279
need some res for what to read. Next to my

2534
01:55:47,359 --> 01:55:49,359
question is what are some novel recommendations you have that

2535
01:55:49,399 --> 01:55:51,680
are your favorites or that you find the most life changing.

2536
01:55:52,319 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 1: Nathan from New Hampshire.

2537
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, so Mike probably has a much deeper well

2538
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:04,119
to come to draw from and probably marry it too. Yes,

2539
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,319
I'll give my dumb guy answers here. As far as

2540
01:56:07,359 --> 01:56:10,720
like a novel I've read in recent years that I

2541
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:15,520
really liked, it's a little indie one called bram Stoker's Dracula.

2542
01:56:17,479 --> 01:56:19,359
I read that I thought that was really good. Mike

2543
01:56:19,399 --> 01:56:21,399
also recommended the couple to me that I really liked.

2544
01:56:21,399 --> 01:56:21,439
Speaker 1: Like.

2545
01:56:21,479 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 2: There was a period where I was actually reading fairly

2546
01:56:23,039 --> 01:56:26,000
frequently in New York. Mike a visit from the goon

2547
01:56:26,079 --> 01:56:29,359
Squad that was one, and what was the Russia one

2548
01:56:29,439 --> 01:56:30,319
from the Linda Laws.

2549
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:32,319
Speaker 1: That's the one that inspired Last of Us.

2550
01:56:34,239 --> 01:56:37,119
Speaker 2: Good City through Russia or something.

2551
01:56:37,319 --> 01:56:38,119
Speaker 1: Something in the city.

2552
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the David Benioff from Game of Thrones wrote,

2553
01:56:41,399 --> 01:56:42,159
it's really good.

2554
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:45,159
Speaker 2: But I did enjoy that a lot like Mike you do.

2555
01:56:46,079 --> 01:56:48,319
Speaker 1: In the Last of Us part to ship. I'll look

2556
01:56:48,359 --> 01:56:48,560
it up.

2557
01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 2: I can't remember it, Mike, Like in that period where

2558
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,399
I was actually reading fairly regularly, you all of your

2559
01:56:54,439 --> 01:56:56,720
recommendations really hit for me. Except for the one about

2560
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:58,560
the City of Thieves. Yeah, except for the one about

2561
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,279
the guy surfing, because it was just like fucking six

2562
01:57:00,319 --> 01:57:01,920
hours of reading the guy describing waves.

2563
01:57:02,039 --> 01:57:04,119
Speaker 1: Oh that I fucking love.

2564
01:57:04,319 --> 01:57:07,439
Speaker 3: My wife's cousin is reading it now and we waxed

2565
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:08,119
about it.

2566
01:57:08,199 --> 01:57:10,199
Speaker 2: For me, that was your only miss. Everything else I

2567
01:57:10,239 --> 01:57:13,159
ever recommended it was awesome. A couple other just real

2568
01:57:13,239 --> 01:57:18,399
quick ones, gaming lighthearted uh uh, life story thing Mike

2569
01:57:18,479 --> 01:57:21,640
Drucker good friend of mine, A good game note rematch

2570
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:24,239
he just put out. I was laughing out loud throughout

2571
01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:27,000
the entire fucking book. It is tremendous just to collect

2572
01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:29,800
like he's about my age, played like very similarly, so,

2573
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,720
very relatable, very just like, yeah, he worked in Nintendo

2574
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:36,720
Late Night comedy, like incredible career life. If you like wrestling,

2575
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:40,640
Max's autobiography is fantastic, John Moxley's is great. And then

2576
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,920
if you're into kind of like getting into like meditation

2577
01:57:43,039 --> 01:57:44,600
and things like that and kind of learning a bit

2578
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:48,039
of a how to of that, the first kind of

2579
01:57:48,199 --> 01:57:50,960
entry level one. I've read a ton of books on mindfulness,

2580
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,119
meditation stuff. Wherever you Go, There You Are by John

2581
01:57:54,159 --> 01:57:57,399
Cabot Zen is a great entry level one into that.

2582
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,399
Speaker 3: Hold on, yeah, the guy, the guy who wrote a

2583
01:58:00,399 --> 01:58:02,359
book about Meditation's last name is Zen.

2584
01:58:03,159 --> 01:58:08,159
Speaker 1: It's z I n. Yeah. That's a very okay, gotcha.

2585
01:58:08,039 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that's that's that's a good first name.

2586
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 1: Crentised. Yeah, no, yes, is really good.

2587
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:22,439
Speaker 3: That's a quick read, too, fairly quick, Mary, you have any.

2588
01:58:23,079 --> 01:58:28,159
Speaker 4: I think my book tastes are probably not for this crowd.

2589
01:58:28,319 --> 01:58:32,159
I read mostly fantasy smut so ill.

2590
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:36,199
Speaker 1: That people I don't know seres and which is fucking

2591
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:38,000
yeah and sucking.

2592
01:58:38,479 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 4: So here's the thing, just to be clear, uh I

2593
01:58:43,279 --> 01:58:46,560
my tastes generally because you know, I work a lot

2594
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,600
and I don't want to read something too serious. Usually

2595
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:52,680
when I read, I read deep fantasy that is very

2596
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:54,920
opposite from like the movies that I would watch. The

2597
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:57,279
movies that I like are generally horror. You guys know

2598
01:58:57,359 --> 01:58:59,960
that I like to be scared when I watch film.

2599
01:59:01,039 --> 01:59:03,159
When I read, I like to watch, like I like

2600
01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:06,239
to read things that are like, Wow, there's fairies everywhere,

2601
01:59:06,279 --> 01:59:09,000
and there's dragons, and this guy's super hot and we're

2602
01:59:09,039 --> 01:59:12,319
gonna bang, and like that's escapism for me. It allows

2603
01:59:12,359 --> 01:59:13,960
me to really get out of my head and stop

2604
01:59:14,039 --> 01:59:18,960
thinking about work. I recommend a Court of Thorns and

2605
01:59:19,119 --> 01:59:25,399
Roses by uh Sarah Moss and Fourth Wing, which is

2606
01:59:25,439 --> 01:59:28,000
what I'm I think I'm on the third book now.

2607
01:59:28,159 --> 01:59:30,279
I should have finished it by now, but I haven't. Sorry,

2608
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:34,000
And that is about dragons. So if you like dragons,

2609
01:59:34,079 --> 01:59:34,920
Fourth Wing.

2610
01:59:36,079 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 1: Is that also smut with dragons.

2611
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:39,119
Speaker 5: It is also smart.

2612
01:59:39,159 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 4: It's by Rebecca Yaros, And so like the idea of

2613
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:46,039
Fourth Wing is there's I mean, it's it's generally what

2614
01:59:46,039 --> 01:59:48,359
you sound. It sounds like you get to pick you

2615
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,359
if you're smart enough and strong enough and you can survive,

2616
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:53,760
you get paired with a dragon. Then you like fight

2617
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:55,960
in wars and stuff, and it's like a girl who

2618
01:59:56,039 --> 01:59:59,680
like is so she like gets paired with a dragon,

2619
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:01,840
but there's also a dude and he's like super hot

2620
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:02,399
and they bang.

2621
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:04,359
Speaker 1: That's it nice?

2622
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I find it really cathartic, just in

2623
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:11,439
the sense where I certainly ain't thinking about work when

2624
02:00:11,439 --> 02:00:13,920
they're like I'm writing this dragon, but I wish I

2625
02:00:14,039 --> 02:00:16,640
was writing Tom and it's like cool, like you know,

2626
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,159
like that's exciting for me and like it just gets

2627
02:00:19,159 --> 02:00:21,800
me out of my head one hundred percent and like

2628
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:23,720
so like that's my thing. But I don't think that's

2629
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,079
what normal, Like, I don't think that's what like a

2630
02:00:26,079 --> 02:00:29,239
lot of people probably prefer to read. So I can

2631
02:00:29,399 --> 02:00:32,359
understand that that's not everybody's cup of tea. I will say,

2632
02:00:32,399 --> 02:00:34,039
I'm very curious what you think, Mike, but I just

2633
02:00:34,079 --> 02:00:36,199
want to say I have a lot of anxiety.

2634
02:00:36,199 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 5: This weekend.

2635
02:00:37,199 --> 02:00:41,199
Speaker 4: I downloaded your audio book, Dan, and I listened to

2636
02:00:41,239 --> 02:00:43,960
your entire I listened to your entire audiobook this weekend.

2637
02:00:44,319 --> 02:00:46,199
Speaker 1: Really did you narrate it? I?

2638
02:00:46,399 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 5: Yes, he did.

2639
02:00:47,199 --> 02:00:50,159
Speaker 2: They wanted they wanted the hire a bo actor to

2640
02:00:50,239 --> 02:00:51,840
do it, and I thought it was really weird that

2641
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:55,600
like I can't imagine my words and my personal story

2642
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,079
being some actor. So like I talked them into me

2643
02:00:58,159 --> 02:01:01,079
going in and recording the whole thing. I did not

2644
02:01:01,159 --> 02:01:03,439
know you did that, Mary Is that did it this weekend.

2645
02:01:03,479 --> 02:01:06,119
Speaker 5: I did it Saturday. I was having a hard time

2646
02:01:06,279 --> 02:01:07,319
getting out of my head.

2647
02:01:08,039 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 4: I I think it's I think it's I think it's

2648
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:14,239
helpful as especially as a beginner's guide of like reflecting

2649
02:01:14,279 --> 02:01:17,159
and thinking. It's also nice because as practical examples you

2650
02:01:17,199 --> 02:01:22,119
talk about like real examples of you being in school

2651
02:01:22,159 --> 02:01:25,000
and being like, I need to not take this class.

2652
02:01:25,039 --> 02:01:26,800
I'm too anxious. I don't want to speak in front

2653
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:28,199
of a class. I think that's, like some things that's

2654
02:01:28,279 --> 02:01:31,079
very relatable and a lot of people can understand. And

2655
02:01:31,119 --> 02:01:33,439
I also think it's endearing that, like, you know, for

2656
02:01:33,479 --> 02:01:35,479
what you do for a living, which is obviously very

2657
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,159
much about putting yourself out there, it was obvious that

2658
02:01:38,199 --> 02:01:40,560
you had severe anxiety about doing that originally, and so

2659
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:44,680
it's nice to see how you've You've taken a lot

2660
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,000
of baby steps to overcome it. So I thought that

2661
02:01:47,079 --> 02:01:50,680
was really nice. So yeah, I thought it was lovely.

2662
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,399
I also think it's nice In your book, you use

2663
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:57,760
like very few large words. It's not a very complicated experience.

2664
02:01:58,199 --> 02:02:00,279
I think you could read this to your children night

2665
02:02:00,319 --> 02:02:02,319
before they go to bed. I think this is for

2666
02:02:02,399 --> 02:02:06,079
any kid or adult that's like I just kind of

2667
02:02:06,119 --> 02:02:07,920
want to talk about my anxiety. I think that is

2668
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:09,840
literally what this is. It's like, I will just tell

2669
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:13,159
you my story with anxiety, and it will help bring

2670
02:02:13,199 --> 02:02:15,479
maybe some peace into your world that you're not alone

2671
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:18,000
like a lot of people having pretty much everybody, but

2672
02:02:18,039 --> 02:02:20,279
like not a lot of people have clinical anxiety, and

2673
02:02:20,319 --> 02:02:21,239
it's not weird.

2674
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 1: To talk about.

2675
02:02:22,199 --> 02:02:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that is why I did it.

2676
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:25,760
It's just because, like I think that like if I

2677
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,000
had heard someone talk about this stuff back when I

2678
02:02:28,039 --> 02:02:29,520
was first struggling with it, I would have been like,

2679
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,439
oh that feels better. No, I'm not like alone with

2680
02:02:31,479 --> 02:02:32,840
this thing. But I also wanted to go to like

2681
02:02:33,159 --> 02:02:35,199
lengths to be like, I'm not a doctor, and this

2682
02:02:35,239 --> 02:02:38,359
is an approachable book from just a normal person. So

2683
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:39,520
that's great to hear. Thank you.

2684
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:42,039
Speaker 5: I didn't know, Yeah it was, well, it was recommended

2685
02:02:42,079 --> 02:02:42,279
to me.

2686
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:48,439
Speaker 4: I wonder why I assume Spotify knew Spotify recommended it.

2687
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, I don't know if I've ever

2688
02:02:52,039 --> 02:02:53,399
told you this joke. I think I said it to

2689
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:57,439
Jake about your book because I read it back in

2690
02:02:57,479 --> 02:03:01,119
twenty fifteen something like that. I had a joke that

2691
02:03:01,119 --> 02:03:06,560
maybe you'll find funny, uh.

2692
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 1: Or you'll be insulted.

2693
02:03:06,439 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm either.

2694
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:09,479
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's a great book.

2695
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:11,119
Speaker 3: But now I have an anxiety attack every time I

2696
02:03:11,159 --> 02:03:14,960
watch Gangs in New York. Oh yeah, yeah, but it's

2697
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:15,560
a dumb joke.

2698
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:17,840
Speaker 1: It's like the reverse. It triggers me now, it's.

2699
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:21,359
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, because you were in the first one. Yeah,

2700
02:03:22,039 --> 02:03:23,680
I had a second one during Lord of the Rings

2701
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:25,479
Two Towers, I can't remember that was in the butt

2702
02:03:26,279 --> 02:03:28,640
was in New York. Was the New Year's Eve one,

2703
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:31,520
and then like whenever Two Towers came out, that was

2704
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,239
the second one. And I was like, what's going on

2705
02:03:33,319 --> 02:03:34,319
with me in movie theaters?

2706
02:03:34,359 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 5: You know, like that's in the book.

2707
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:38,039
Speaker 4: But I don't think you just maybe I'm wrong, but

2708
02:03:38,079 --> 02:03:39,720
I don't think you said the movie. I think you

2709
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:41,039
just said I was in the movie theater and I

2710
02:03:41,119 --> 02:03:43,880
kept having panic attacks in movie theaters, which I.

2711
02:03:44,039 --> 02:03:46,039
Speaker 2: Sit in the bathroom, and I was like, I'm fucking dying.

2712
02:03:46,039 --> 02:03:48,439
Speaker 3: What is that New York was in the book was

2713
02:03:48,479 --> 02:03:50,720
the first Year Two Towers.

2714
02:03:51,359 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's nice. I don't have severe

2715
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:57,279
panic attacks or like severe anxiety, and I don't think

2716
02:03:57,319 --> 02:04:00,359
I have clinical anxiety, but just like regular people, I havingnxiety.

2717
02:04:00,399 --> 02:04:03,760
I was struggling sleeping because I was like, think about work.

2718
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:05,279
We have a lot of pressure going on at work,

2719
02:04:05,319 --> 02:04:08,640
and like I'm thinking about stuff that is past due

2720
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:12,439
and it's freaking me out. And like I I was

2721
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:14,960
just I was really unable to get out of my head,

2722
02:04:15,159 --> 02:04:17,119
if that makes sense. I couldn't get out of my head.

2723
02:04:17,319 --> 02:04:19,560
And there's only a few things that really really get

2724
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:22,199
me out of my head. And again, horror movies absolutely,

2725
02:04:22,239 --> 02:04:24,439
because I'm like that person's gonna die. I can't think

2726
02:04:24,479 --> 02:04:30,199
about work when that's happening. And often metal like loud

2727
02:04:30,279 --> 02:04:33,560
music concerts, things like that that are like heavy will

2728
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:37,159
get me out of my head because it's I don't know,

2729
02:04:37,239 --> 02:04:39,640
it's intense and people are like mashing and shit like that.

2730
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:41,640
That will get me out of my head. So I

2731
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:44,920
actually gravitate towards things that force me to get out

2732
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:46,479
of my anxiety.

2733
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:49,399
Speaker 2: It's like century overload type things your brain doesn't get

2734
02:04:49,439 --> 02:04:51,760
a chance to have a break to I mean, how could.

2735
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 4: You possibly and yeah, I mean I'm not being stabbed.

2736
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you what horror movie just spoiled,

2737
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:04,079
but just to be any of them of them?

2738
02:05:04,119 --> 02:05:06,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway, Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't get out of it.

2739
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:10,439
I listened to an anxiety booked help me.

2740
02:05:11,279 --> 02:05:13,479
Speaker 1: Oh wow, awesome to help.

2741
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:16,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit, I think I.

2742
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,439
Speaker 2: Think it was so fine.

2743
02:05:20,479 --> 02:05:23,359
Speaker 1: With that helped me a little bit. That would be

2744
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:24,199
my fun.

2745
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:26,239
Speaker 2: A little bit.

2746
02:05:27,239 --> 02:05:29,439
Speaker 3: It was fine, and then there's mine under it. It's

2747
02:05:29,439 --> 02:05:31,399
like I can't watch gangs in New York anymore.

2748
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 2: It is funny because like I've thought about, like because

2749
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:39,880
I wrote that ten years ago, and like I say

2750
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:41,760
in the book, that was like, anxiety is not a

2751
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,319
thing that it's a chronic thing. I'm not going to

2752
02:05:43,359 --> 02:05:44,359
be like, oh I'm never having that.

2753
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 5: You're not solving it. The point of it isn't to

2754
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:47,319
solve it.

2755
02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the thing is like in that ten

2756
02:05:49,359 --> 02:05:51,640
years I am still like literally today I was in

2757
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,640
therapy talking about my anxiety and stuff like that. And

2758
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:56,359
so it's like I do have another ten years of

2759
02:05:56,399 --> 02:06:00,600
like growth and learning and things like that stupid would

2760
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:03,600
be the right. Anxiety is an ally to like just

2761
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:04,600
put like a number of.

2762
02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:10,399
Speaker 4: Still anxiety anxious, Yeah, anxiety.

2763
02:06:10,479 --> 02:06:14,439
Speaker 3: Anxiety is an ally too colon. I'm still anxious.

2764
02:06:19,239 --> 02:06:20,319
Speaker 2: A lot I could talk about.

2765
02:06:20,359 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 4: It's just like to bring it on, sequel, bring it

2766
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:23,760
on some more.

2767
02:06:25,159 --> 02:06:26,079
Speaker 2: Anxiety harder.

2768
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:29,359
Speaker 4: It's still here.

2769
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:37,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, anxiety, Yeah, yeah, I've got I will actually say

2770
02:06:37,079 --> 02:06:38,960
I hate when people say no, I don't hate when

2771
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,840
people say you mentioned like, what are some books that

2772
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,720
were life changing? I will say my favorite book of

2773
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:48,560
all time that I actually gave me more appreciation for

2774
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:51,000
life and people like so it kind of changed my

2775
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,680
life is One hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

2776
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:54,239
Speaker 1: It is.

2777
02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:59,039
Speaker 3: I was reading it's it's a fairly long book and

2778
02:06:59,079 --> 02:07:02,800
it's dense as hell. Well I remember reading that and

2779
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,880
like halfway through it not knowing exactly where he's going.

2780
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,560
And then the more and more you get through the

2781
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:10,600
book toward the end, I remember thinking, I don't understand

2782
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:13,039
how a human wrote this. This is like an alien

2783
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:15,800
that had been studying humanity from Afar for a thousand

2784
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:19,760
years finally wrote a book to distill what humans are

2785
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:25,000
like the book. The book is about the like I

2786
02:07:25,039 --> 02:07:28,159
think something like eight generations of one family living in

2787
02:07:28,199 --> 02:07:31,800
this village in South America, and so the book starts

2788
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:34,399
with like the patriarch and the matriarch and then goes

2789
02:07:34,439 --> 02:07:35,880
all the way through to their great great great great

2790
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:39,399
great grandchildren. I will also say it's magical realism, so

2791
02:07:39,439 --> 02:07:44,159
some weird shit happens that's presented as quotidian like normal.

2792
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:47,760
Most of my favorite authors are like magical realism, like

2793
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:53,119
Orge sorry, Jorge Luis bor Has, who's Argentine writer. I

2794
02:07:53,319 --> 02:07:55,560
also love his stuff. He's only ever done short stories.

2795
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:58,319
But if you can get Labyrinths collection like same thing

2796
02:07:58,359 --> 02:08:02,039
he's I would consider him a genius. But yeah, one

2797
02:08:02,079 --> 02:08:04,680
hundred Years of Solitude is like I remember putting that

2798
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,119
book down and feeling like I was actually.

2799
02:08:08,359 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 1: Different.

2800
02:08:09,399 --> 02:08:12,239
Speaker 3: It sounds so fucking stupid, but and it sounds like

2801
02:08:12,279 --> 02:08:15,720
hoity toity, but it's an incredible book, one of the

2802
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:19,359
most unreal. I think it's my favorite like work of art.

2803
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:25,520
It's incredible. I will also say anything by a Teleo

2804
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:28,359
Calvino in the same vein. He's an Italian magical realist

2805
02:08:28,399 --> 02:08:34,359
writer invisible Cities, it's not so much a novel as

2806
02:08:34,359 --> 02:08:37,760
it is, like he goes through these imaginary in imaginary

2807
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,960
city invisible cities. I don't know one of those two

2808
02:08:40,359 --> 02:08:41,800
one of my favorite books. I can't remember the name.

2809
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:47,239
It's like Dina, he goes cities. Yeah, if on a

2810
02:08:47,239 --> 02:08:52,359
winter's night of travel. Yeah, it's amazing. And then I

2811
02:08:52,399 --> 02:08:54,880
will say less like it wasn't life changing, but just

2812
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,119
the way it's constructed is amazing. It's like kind of

2813
02:08:57,159 --> 02:09:00,000
reading a video game A House of Leaves by Marxie

2814
02:09:00,079 --> 02:09:00,720
Daniel Luski.

2815
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:02,920
Speaker 2: I've owned that for like fifteen years, and I keep

2816
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:06,039
meaning to read it. I love these shit like it

2817
02:09:06,079 --> 02:09:08,600
does fun gimmicky things you know, with like yeah, text

2818
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:11,279
and blank pages and stuff like that, it seems really cool.

2819
02:09:11,479 --> 02:09:13,960
Speaker 3: You should it's I will say, it's not as long

2820
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:17,880
as it looks, because in true, like God, that books

2821
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:20,880
so fucking cool. The back, like one hundred pages or something,

2822
02:09:21,039 --> 02:09:23,760
is like the mass Effect codex, where if you really

2823
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:27,720
want to dive into the book, it's like, uh, it's

2824
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:31,760
not an index, it's it's like the research papers that

2825
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:35,640
one of the characters has been reading in the story.

2826
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:37,199
You can actually look at what he was reading and

2827
02:09:37,239 --> 02:09:39,520
get into the lore of stuff. So again, it's kind

2828
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:40,119
of video gaming.

2829
02:09:40,399 --> 02:09:42,319
Speaker 2: But remember there were like clockwork, oarring e'er. I had

2830
02:09:42,319 --> 02:09:44,680
a glossary where it's like, all, yeah, Deva means this

2831
02:09:44,920 --> 02:09:45,439
and yeah.

2832
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:48,760
Speaker 3: But House of Leaves for those who are familiar is

2833
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:52,319
it was one of the biggest inspirations for control from

2834
02:09:52,399 --> 02:09:57,720
remedy entertainment. If you've seen people reading it in public,

2835
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:01,119
it's kind of infamous for people like rotating the book

2836
02:10:01,159 --> 02:10:03,960
to read it and public on subways. But uh yeah,

2837
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,960
he it's it's also a horror book. I should warn people.

2838
02:10:07,479 --> 02:10:09,800
It gets creepy and it's like, uh, what's the kind

2839
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:14,880
of horror. It's unsettling horror. He basically discovered hill. He

2840
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:19,239
discovered he moves into this house in Massachusetts, I want

2841
02:10:19,239 --> 02:10:21,800
to say, and he's going through marriage problems. It's like

2842
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:23,359
the it's one of those things where the book is

2843
02:10:23,439 --> 02:10:25,279
kind of a metaphor for his marriage.

2844
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 1: Following he discovers this.

2845
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 4: Did he get divorced after?

2846
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 1: Have you not read it? Mary? You would love it?

2847
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 3: Of all people, I would say this might you would

2848
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,399
love it. I think Lucy also loves that book too.

2849
02:10:37,119 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 1: It got big.

2850
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:40,119
Speaker 3: It blew up again on social media after Alan Wake two,

2851
02:10:40,479 --> 02:10:42,560
but like I read it before that, so I'm cooler

2852
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:43,319
than all those people.

2853
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, he he.

2854
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:48,079
Speaker 3: Finds a doorway on the end, like on an exterior

2855
02:10:48,119 --> 02:10:51,199
wall of his house that has a like it's a

2856
02:10:51,199 --> 02:10:55,000
closet that should not exist. He goes because it's it

2857
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:56,600
should technically lead out of the house.

2858
02:10:56,399 --> 02:11:00,279
Speaker 1: But there's like and the wardrobe. It doesn't lead somewhere else.

2859
02:11:00,359 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 3: It's just a little closet that should technically be jutting

2860
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:04,920
out from the house, but when he looks at it

2861
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:06,920
from the outside, it's just the wall of the house.

2862
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:10,319
And each time he goes through this door, it starts

2863
02:11:10,319 --> 02:11:14,680
building this like impossible space underground below his house, and

2864
02:11:15,039 --> 02:11:17,720
they go on expeditions into it, and sometimes it's like

2865
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:21,760
miles longer than it was before. But it's just like

2866
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:24,119
the sense of creeping dread in that book. It's not

2867
02:11:24,319 --> 02:11:27,399
it's it's a I hope I'm probably selling it terribly.

2868
02:11:27,399 --> 02:11:30,039
It's an amazing book, but like, if you're not up

2869
02:11:30,039 --> 02:11:32,640
to be a bit creeped out, it's not a it's

2870
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:33,960
not the best book to read.

2871
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:36,319
Speaker 1: Like at night, like a creepy book.

2872
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:41,479
Speaker 3: It's amazing. I love it, but yeah, I'd say one

2873
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:43,560
hundred years slitude. I will also say one more.

2874
02:11:45,119 --> 02:11:45,439
Speaker 1: Brothers.

2875
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:49,399
Speaker 3: Caramelzov is amazing, Like for I don't know Dan, you know,

2876
02:11:49,479 --> 02:11:52,439
nor McDonald was very well read. He loved like Russian literature.

2877
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:59,760
I will say Russian literature is like between for as

2878
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:03,760
like high Falutin as it sounds. You read it and

2879
02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:06,439
you're like, oh shit, I get why these are classics.

2880
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:11,920
These are hilarious, they're poignant, they're incredible stories like they're

2881
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:14,560
they're approachable as hell, still like they're long as hell.

2882
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard the moth joke. I get it.

2883
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, he's just.

2884
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:22,760
Speaker 3: Emulating Malbakov and told Stoy with that and dol Stoevsky.

2885
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:26,199
But like Brothers, Scarmes is unreal, Nathan, So you're already

2886
02:12:26,239 --> 02:12:27,720
on good track there. But I will also say All

2887
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:31,760
the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Door. He wrote

2888
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:34,079
the book Cloud at List that the movie is based on,

2889
02:12:35,159 --> 02:12:37,680
which Cloud out Lists is actually back you right now, All

2890
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:40,479
the Light We Cannot See You You Towoul also like

2891
02:12:40,479 --> 02:12:40,920
that book.

2892
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:43,279
Speaker 1: It basically this.

2893
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:47,079
Speaker 4: War is too real. I love it when it's like

2894
02:12:47,199 --> 02:12:50,199
there's a demon and he's in the closet.

2895
02:12:50,359 --> 02:12:52,159
Speaker 1: Wait how do you know it's about war.

2896
02:12:52,319 --> 02:12:55,399
Speaker 5: Because anything important is usually about war.

2897
02:12:55,720 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 3: And I've heard there's All the Way we Cannot see

2898
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:03,000
is now a Netflix show that sucks, So I don't

2899
02:13:03,079 --> 02:13:07,199
watch the show. The book is equal parts Indiana Jones

2900
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:11,279
meets like serious literature, which is what makes it great

2901
02:13:11,319 --> 02:13:13,479
because it's basically it's during World War Two. They're at

2902
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:16,039
Mont Saint Michel. It's this, uh you can look it up.

2903
02:13:16,039 --> 02:13:18,039
It's off the coast of Normandy. There's a causeway Mary,

2904
02:13:18,079 --> 02:13:19,880
you were talking about twenty eight years later, but like

2905
02:13:20,159 --> 02:13:23,000
during high tide, you the road narrows up.

2906
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:26,920
Speaker 4: But maybe they read it and they were like, this

2907
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:28,840
would be a great zombie movie.

2908
02:13:29,359 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably about high Tide. But uh no, it's it's

2909
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:36,960
a a father who lives there with his blind daughter

2910
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:40,000
during the war, and so like it starts off and

2911
02:13:40,039 --> 02:13:43,159
he's building like mini replicas of the city to like

2912
02:13:43,239 --> 02:13:44,640
so she could feel it and he can kind of

2913
02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:48,720
tell her what it's like. However, there's also a parallel

2914
02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:53,880
plot about a Nazi like colonel lieutenant trying to track

2915
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:57,319
down these famous gems that went missing from the museum

2916
02:13:57,359 --> 02:13:57,920
in Paris.

2917
02:13:58,439 --> 02:14:00,000
Speaker 1: So like it's equal part.

2918
02:14:00,039 --> 02:14:04,840
Speaker 3: It's Indiana Jones Adventure and there's Nazis and this really

2919
02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:07,039
touching story about a father and daughter and it's just

2920
02:14:08,079 --> 02:14:10,000
it's fairly long, but I went through, I think in

2921
02:14:10,039 --> 02:14:13,680
a weekend. It's the most readable thing ever, really really good.

2922
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:17,399
And then the daughter befriends I think a Nazi soldier.

2923
02:14:17,439 --> 02:14:18,760
If memory serves, it's really good.

2924
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:20,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2925
02:14:20,159 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 3: One hundred years Solitude is like, is the is the

2926
02:14:23,079 --> 02:14:24,399
book to read before you die?

2927
02:14:24,439 --> 02:14:28,720
Speaker 1: If anybody ever? That's my official answer for that. But anyway,

2928
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:32,800
thank you, Nathan. That's our episode.

2929
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:35,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, Firescape past at gmail dot com

2930
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:40,439
sending questions where you guys read like eight emails.

2931
02:14:40,079 --> 02:14:41,720
Speaker 1: Again when I was gone, it looked like based on

2932
02:14:41,720 --> 02:14:42,600
the run of show, is that.

2933
02:14:44,319 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 5: Dan is like, I love reading four hundred emails.

2934
02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:50,359
Speaker 1: I love Are you doing it to get under my skin? No?

2935
02:14:51,079 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 2: Never, it's never been a bit. It's just like at all, No,

2936
02:14:54,920 --> 02:14:58,600
I thought about me and I like answering emails. Pull

2937
02:14:58,640 --> 02:15:00,000
a bunch in there. Yeah.

2938
02:15:00,279 --> 02:15:03,159
Speaker 4: Dan doesn't have an evil bone in his body. I didn't.

2939
02:15:03,199 --> 02:15:05,960
I don't even think he questions other people in his life.

2940
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:07,520
He's just that obtuse.

2941
02:15:09,359 --> 02:15:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how to take a compliment to Really,

2942
02:15:13,439 --> 02:15:14,960
I'm dizzy after that one.

2943
02:15:15,159 --> 02:15:20,840
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. That comment was a work of literature.

2944
02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:25,800
Speaker 2: Just it was so thank you to wait, what is

2945
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:27,039
Jesus Christ?

2946
02:15:27,159 --> 02:15:28,399
Speaker 1: She's called me a dumb ass.

2947
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't know where I am.

2948
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:34,960
Speaker 3: That was the most Mary, you are the most vicious

2949
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:36,960
of all three of us. And it comes out of nowhere.

2950
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:39,640
And I've got you think I have gotten used to

2951
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:41,319
it after ten years now, I have not.

2952
02:15:42,359 --> 02:15:44,199
Speaker 1: It's anyway, he.

2953
02:15:44,159 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 2: Didn't have a.

2954
02:15:46,439 --> 02:15:46,840
Speaker 1: So much.

2955
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:47,680
Speaker 2: He's a dip ship.

2956
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 1: What he's not?

2957
02:15:50,000 --> 02:16:03,640
Speaker 3: He's not evil, he's just a uh yikes, that's our episode.

2958
02:16:04,279 --> 02:16:05,800
Speaker 1: Try to move on.

2959
02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 4: I multiple friends on this one.

2960
02:16:10,039 --> 02:16:13,039
Speaker 1: Yes, what do you have? What do you have going on?

2961
02:16:13,079 --> 02:16:17,159
Speaker 3: Aside from reconnecting with Dina Nina Hamilton Again.

2962
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:19,600
Speaker 5: I'm not reconnecting with Nina. That was the whole point

2963
02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:19,840
of that.

2964
02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 4: I I am still streaming on Twitch every Monday. I

2965
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:31,119
am not listening to musicals. I don't have anything else

2966
02:16:31,119 --> 02:16:32,559
that's going on in my life.

2967
02:16:34,680 --> 02:16:37,239
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, I don't give a ship, Dan, What do

2968
02:16:37,319 --> 02:16:37,920
you got going on?

2969
02:16:38,479 --> 02:16:41,319
Speaker 2: Giant bomb dot com that's the whole thing. Giant bomb

2970
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:45,040
dot com, slash Join support Independent Games Media we're killing

2971
02:16:45,079 --> 02:16:47,440
it over there, and I'm about to make Jeff Grubb

2972
02:16:47,479 --> 02:16:51,440
play Jurassic Park trespasser. If you don't know what that is,

2973
02:16:52,079 --> 02:16:54,440
it's going to be a very special thing. So check

2974
02:16:54,479 --> 02:16:56,959
out giant bomb dot com and then I'm Dan Reicherd

2975
02:16:57,079 --> 02:16:57,840
on whatever.

2976
02:16:58,040 --> 02:17:02,200
Speaker 3: So cool, Mary, I'm kind of fucking annoyed you didn't

2977
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:04,079
mention that we're back with Resident Evil.

2978
02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:06,280
Speaker 5: We are back with Resident.

2979
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:09,760
Speaker 1: Eleven months, Dan, do you know do you know the

2980
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:10,319
context of this?

2981
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:12,840
Speaker 2: I saw that, like I saw people being like, holy shit,

2982
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:14,159
a new episode.

2983
02:17:14,920 --> 02:17:19,399
Speaker 3: They're like, I don't, I truly don't know how it

2984
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:20,360
got eleven months.

2985
02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:21,799
Speaker 1: So okay, it's funnier.

2986
02:17:21,440 --> 02:17:25,280
Speaker 3: Because before reback, we got nine tenths of the way

2987
02:17:25,319 --> 02:17:27,840
through the game, like literally before the Krowsier knife fight,

2988
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:30,799
and then just didn't post an episode.

2989
02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:31,959
Speaker 1: For eleven months. I mean, I get it.

2990
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:34,079
Speaker 2: It's a miracle sometimes that we get the three of

2991
02:17:34,159 --> 02:17:35,600
us together for a few hours.

2992
02:17:35,639 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 1: You know, there's a.

2993
02:17:36,319 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 3: Comment there's like, yeah, there's like eleven months, y'all have

2994
02:17:39,639 --> 02:17:41,959
not been that busy, And I want to respond to like,

2995
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:44,000
you just bought yourself another eleven months.

2996
02:17:47,399 --> 02:17:48,079
Speaker 1: I forgot.

2997
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:49,719
Speaker 3: Comment.

2998
02:17:50,079 --> 02:17:51,959
Speaker 4: No, there's yeah, there's no excuse in the world. But

2999
02:17:52,319 --> 02:17:54,520
we were busy and we did one.

3000
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:57,200
Speaker 1: Mary had to come back to a game.

3001
02:17:58,639 --> 02:18:01,799
Speaker 3: It is arguably maybe the most difficult boss fight in

3002
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:06,920
that game that she had to then krowser crowser. In

3003
02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:10,719
the remake, I would actually say, fucking Salazar is tough.

3004
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:13,360
Speaker 2: Changed that one, right, I haven't played.

3005
02:18:15,079 --> 02:18:17,399
Speaker 3: They added the new arena. But then also, yeah, he

3006
02:18:17,559 --> 02:18:20,159
like puts minds all over the floor. I would actually

3007
02:18:20,159 --> 02:18:24,319
say it is not good.

3008
02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:25,879
Speaker 4: You said that when we played it, you were like,

3009
02:18:25,879 --> 02:18:26,799
I don't care for this boss.

3010
02:18:26,799 --> 02:18:30,120
Speaker 3: By watching, I was like, it cemented I don't like it.

3011
02:18:30,159 --> 02:18:31,079
That's a whole lot.

3012
02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're back.

3013
02:18:33,239 --> 02:18:36,040
Speaker 3: I think the finale is probably the next episode. But yeah,

3014
02:18:36,040 --> 02:18:38,319
that's that's not a paid thing. If that's just on

3015
02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:40,559
our YouTube channel to go subscribe there so you know

3016
02:18:40,559 --> 02:18:42,760
when the next one comes up, whether it's next week

3017
02:18:42,959 --> 02:18:46,159
or next year. We'll finish revenue for a remake, and

3018
02:18:46,159 --> 02:18:47,319
then we got to figure out what else because we

3019
02:18:47,319 --> 02:18:48,200
want to play other stuff.

3020
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to figure out the next one.

3021
02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:54,120
Speaker 3: Revelations two is one of the lost episodes, as is

3022
02:18:54,159 --> 02:19:00,639
the what the Hell is the Jake campaign from Reznievil six. Yeah,

3023
02:19:00,680 --> 02:19:04,840
we played all the other two. We played Chris's and Leon's.

3024
02:19:05,120 --> 02:19:08,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were like, mad, there's four, isn't there?

3025
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:10,719
Speaker 1: Four? Oh eight? Us you unlock when you're four. Yeah,

3026
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:12,239
we haven't played rough.

3027
02:19:12,879 --> 02:19:16,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun playing through it because we thought

3028
02:19:16,479 --> 02:19:17,639
you can share the misery.

3029
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:17,840
Speaker 1: No.

3030
02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:21,719
Speaker 3: Five was the one that actually like did not talk

3031
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:23,159
for a few days after that episode.

3032
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:25,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's back.

3033
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:31,680
Speaker 3: And then if you're listening to this, there's a new episode.

3034
02:19:31,719 --> 02:19:33,399
We were a bit late because I was traveling. But

3035
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:35,239
Vine and I have a new Mike and Vinnie Save

3036
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:38,120
the World up on fire Escape that is paid. You

3037
02:19:38,159 --> 02:19:40,360
have to be a video Tier member for that. And

3038
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:44,079
then we're also playing an evil campaign over on next

3039
02:19:44,120 --> 02:19:48,440
Lander itself. If you're not a Patreon patron for next Lander,

3040
02:19:48,639 --> 02:19:49,319
you should be.

3041
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:50,040
Speaker 1: Those guys are.

3042
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:52,799
Speaker 3: Great and we've been playing those two parallel campaigns and

3043
02:19:52,840 --> 02:19:55,959
they're it's going even better than I had hoped for

3044
02:19:56,120 --> 02:20:00,600
because the campaigns are so fucking different. Uh, to struggle

3045
02:20:00,639 --> 02:20:02,159
in the fire Escape one. But I think we're turning

3046
02:20:02,159 --> 02:20:05,559
the tide finally or in episode twelve or something. That's

3047
02:20:05,639 --> 02:20:08,799
a very fun show. I like playing Warhammer with Vinny

3048
02:20:08,799 --> 02:20:12,920
in the mornings over coffee. Yeah, we'll be back in

3049
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:15,280
two weeks. I'm gonna work on that mouse pad.

3050
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah wait, I gotta right.

3051
02:20:17,239 --> 02:20:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean you did say you're going to do it,

3052
02:20:18,559 --> 02:20:21,760
so I think, yeah, that'll probably be.

3053
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:25,239
Speaker 3: On fourth fourth Wall did reach out and say, uh,

3054
02:20:25,719 --> 02:20:27,280
do you guys, we'd love to offer you like a

3055
02:20:27,319 --> 02:20:29,479
free design. Just give us the prompt and we'll make

3056
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:32,920
it for you. I wonder if she would ask why

3057
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:34,600
I'm saying, hey, can you get us a mouse pad

3058
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:36,600
that says I didn't care for Hamilton and there's a

3059
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:38,159
moon and will world suck my dick?

3060
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:43,239
Speaker 2: I think I trust you to make that make it.

3061
02:20:43,319 --> 02:20:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't know if we want to

3062
02:20:44,639 --> 02:20:49,319
ask fourth Wall because they reached out.

3063
02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:52,879
Speaker 5: I wanted to do like a like it's like a stitched,

3064
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:54,040
like a.

3065
02:20:54,000 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 2: Stitch like, yeah, made it, God bless us thing.

3066
02:21:00,840 --> 02:21:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, God bless this mess type situation.

3067
02:21:03,319 --> 02:21:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, I live laugh love sweet.

3068
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:08,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be back in two weeks the next episode

3069
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:11,479
Fire Skreet What episode is this like one hundred and

3070
02:21:11,479 --> 02:21:12,479
thirteen something?

3071
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:14,040
Speaker 2: Sure you could sell anything.

3072
02:21:14,920 --> 02:21:15,959
Speaker 1: I think I will go back.

3073
02:21:17,520 --> 02:21:20,479
Speaker 3: We'll be back with episode one hundred and thirty four

3074
02:21:20,799 --> 02:21:23,319
in a couple of weeks until then.

3075
02:21:24,559 --> 02:21:25,719
Speaker 1: I feel like we're missing something.

3076
02:21:25,920 --> 02:21:26,799
Speaker 4: Are we stay hot?

3077
02:21:27,799 --> 02:21:28,079
Speaker 3: Mary?

3078
02:21:28,239 --> 02:21:29,840
Speaker 1: Mary usually fucks up the merch.

3079
02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:32,559
Speaker 2: Stay wet, Yes, stay wet.

3080
02:21:32,920 --> 02:21:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yikes, that's a that would be a good mass

3081
02:21:37,239 --> 02:21:37,680
pad too.

3082
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:40,559
Speaker 2: Just yeah, make the while you're in the back the

3083
02:21:41,639 --> 02:21:42,639
wet Yeah.

3084
02:21:43,360 --> 02:21:46,120
Speaker 4: Old, Then where's our emails?

3085
02:21:46,159 --> 02:21:47,159
Speaker 1: I want to be I want to be.

3086
02:21:47,239 --> 02:21:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to be cremated unless my wife agrees

3087
02:21:52,719 --> 02:21:54,719
to put a shirt on my dead body at the

3088
02:21:54,719 --> 02:21:57,680
open casket wake and the shirt just says stay wet.

3089
02:21:57,719 --> 02:21:59,680
Speaker 2: But no, Dick hanging out, no.

3090
02:22:01,639 --> 02:22:04,879
Speaker 3: Figure out how to make me e wrecked when I'm dead.

3091
02:22:04,559 --> 02:22:07,360
Speaker 2: They do the taxidy people can totally do that.

3092
02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:10,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, no, no, no, no, no, I'm saying I need something.

3093
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:14,639
Speaker 2: Meldehyde playing above your dead face.

3094
02:22:14,959 --> 02:22:17,760
Speaker 3: I want a fluffer at my funeral to make sure

3095
02:22:17,799 --> 02:22:18,840
I stay hard when I'm dead.

3096
02:22:18,920 --> 02:22:19,159
Speaker 2: Church.

3097
02:22:19,719 --> 02:22:25,680
Speaker 4: That's how Dick's work dis work. Happy anniversary, Debbie and Darryl.

3098
02:22:25,799 --> 02:22:27,040
Speaker 5: We're so happy for you.

3099
02:22:27,360 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 3: Crazy yeah good way, not crazy.

3100
02:22:30,840 --> 02:22:41,120
Speaker 4: Not in a weird way, but in a supportive way.

3101
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 3: Debora, Daryl happy Universo, deb and I enjoy enjoy a

3102
02:22:50,120 --> 02:22:58,639
sauce the band. I hope they sing wander Wang, we'll

3103
02:22:58,639 --> 02:22:59,600
see you next episode.

3104
02:22:59,639 --> 02:23:02,879
Speaker 2: By Hamilton. People marries the enemy Shamblton.

3105
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:08,959
Speaker 1: He's called Shamilton Hamilton. Hamilton is funny.

3106
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:11,399
Speaker 2: That's what Mary said.

3107
02:23:11,639 --> 02:23:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna get You're gonna get fucking Hamilton hate

3108
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:18,760
some little theater, the little gonna get me.

3109
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna sing insults that.

3110
02:23:24,440 --> 02:23:25,120
Speaker 5: She's a bit.

3111
02:23:27,159 --> 02:23:33,280
Speaker 1: Exactly how I go? Yeah, are we out? I already?

3112
02:23:33,319 --> 02:23:34,559
Speaker 2: Did you kept the stuffer?

3113
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:44,680
Speaker 9: H h

3114
02:23:47,120 --> 02:24:00,399
Speaker 3: H