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Speaker 1: That's another great track from Jamie Higgs. And we're gonna

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be talking with Jamie in just a moment. Welcome everybody.

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If you are listening live. Today is Saturday, November twenty second,

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twenty twenty five, and let's see. I think we have

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Jamie on the line with us. Hi, Jamie, are you there.

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Speaker 2: I'm Hea Muss. How about you?

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Speaker 1: Hey, doing well? Welcome back to the show. It's great

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to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you Betty much. I'm glad to be back.

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Speaker 1: Home, absolutely so. I love that song we talk. Of course,

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the last time we add you on you just come

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out with peace and your Sound, which we are going

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to play again at the end of our conversation today.

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But I love I love this song. We talk. That

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is so good. Everything about it is great. I love

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your voice, the production is great. Just a really really

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great track. And this is this is pretty new, right,

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this just came out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a month or so old.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, so so pretty new. What can you

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tell us about this about this song? Like, what is it? Uh?

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You know, it's I feel like there's some deeper meaning

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to the lyrics. But uh. And you know, when we

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had you on before, we talked a lot about the

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meaning of the lyrics a piece in your sound. But

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I'm curious about we talk what this song means to you?

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be I've been with my wife now for

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ten years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maney just over the year, but we've been together

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ten years. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If you've been in a long tend relationship, you'll know

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there's ups and downs. Sure, and this was a song

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about one of the downs. I was speaking to me mate,

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he was having a similar low with his girlfriend at

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the time. Yeah, we're just saying, like we end up

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sitting up late talking and yeah, I was just thinking

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about how problems and we just we talked through them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like kind of the idea of the song, Well,

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I kind of one of the songs to finish unresolved, right,

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So you don't actually know whether they figured that I

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was sold, whether they broke up.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting idea. Yeah, so this is a deeply personal

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one to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I remember,

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I remember when we talked about Piece in your Sound.

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I mean that you know that that song was personal too,

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in the sense that from from what I recall from

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our conversation, it was about how, you know, finding you know,

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kind of finding peace in the chaos of life and

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and uh but but this one obviously, but I think

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both songs are are highly relatable. This one is relatable

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because anyone who's been in a long term relationship, you know,

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you do go through your ups and downs and or

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even a short term relationship. And uh uh, so I

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think this is very relatable as well. But when you

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when you write a song like this and then and

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then your wife here is it like what? Well, I'm

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curious what the what the reaction is, I mean, does

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she like it or does she kind of say, oh,

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I don't know, this is a little much, or what like,

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how does she respond to it? When you present a

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song like this jor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I fully get the nerves laughter it.

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Speaker 3: I get it because I was unsure how she'll reactively,

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but she actually preferred it ding yeah, which I was

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surprised because I think Piecing sounds a better sort of

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song genetically.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I suppose.

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Speaker 3: Anyone who understands that song kind of connects with it. Yeah,

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piecing sounds a bit more. It's a bit more for everyone, right, we.

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Speaker 2: Got more of a specific audience. Yeah, And obviously because Tasha.

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Speaker 3: And my wife knew where to come from, I think

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she's just kind of related with it.

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Speaker 1: Sure, But so she really likes this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, good, it's a I'd say it's a better.

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Speaker 3: Written song, okay, okay in terms of song writing perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Does she give you feedback like, like does

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she does she ever say, like, you know, I don't

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know I would change this or or maybe do this differently,

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or does she just does she just kind of take

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it in and give you her her overall impression of it.

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Speaker 2: She kind of just stays away from it, does she really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like, well, that's like my outlet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is obviously why a lot of MEW songs

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come out personal. Yeah, it's like my it's like my

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personal therapy.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, now that makes sense. I'm also

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curious too. So the last time we talked, which that

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wasn't that long ago, but I think, tell me if

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I'm remembering this correctly, you were in the process of

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putting a band, because you you've been operating as a

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solo artist. But I think you you were either in

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the process of putting a band together or you had

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put a band together. Am I on the right track

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with that?

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Speaker 2: You are on the right track? Mark? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: I basically put a quick band together for a gig

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in the June. Yeah, and then through like July and

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August it was a bit chop and changey, and then

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now we've settled.

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Speaker 2: Into a good band okay. Yeah, quite consistent, No, okay, excellent.

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Speaker 1: Well, like like when you when you talk about you know,

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some of the the problems with with putting the band

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together at first, like what what did you run into

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was it was it difficult to find people who just

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you know, were who could play well enough to pull

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these songs off live or what was you know, because

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I've been in bands and I know there are a

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lot of different challenges. Is this you know when you're

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starting something kind of new or you have people you know,

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you've got your established project and you have people you're

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bringing into it. Yeah, No, there's there's a lot of

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things that can that can come up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no ideas that I think the biggest thing for

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me is chemistry. H I think it.

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Speaker 3: Like if if you're a good guitarist, but you need

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a great guitarist, Yeah, but the chemistry is right, they

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can get better, true, so Jeremy.

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Speaker 2: So it's like the chemistry is kind of more important

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than the ability.

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Speaker 3: Luckily, we seem to have struck gold and we have

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both chemistry and quality in our band.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, any lucky.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's excellent. Yeah. So how long has

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the It can't have been too long now, right, a

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few months that the current lineup has existed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think we torn maybe the last four or

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five gigs with the same band. Okay, maybe maybe like

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one or two couldn't make it or something. So yeah,

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we've maybe like we've used Tom on Basse for one

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gig and then Hardison who plays keyboard.

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Speaker 2: He's missed two so gigs just because he's so busy. Sure,

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so pass from that, but pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good good. Now do you feel like, how do

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you feel on stage with a band versus if you're

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if you're kind of doing the solo thing, because you know,

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to me, I mean just from my own experience, when

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you're when you're with a band, it's kind of the

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safety in numbers, right, Like you just you're all in

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it together, and it just feels like there's there's not

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as much that can you know, even if something goes wrong,

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you know you're you're all you're all in there together.

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on stage. I mean, that's that's kind of how I

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always thought of it. But I'm curious how the how

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the transition has been for you, especially where you know

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these these players are coming in and playing your music

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that that you've created. I mean, do you feel more

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confident with the band on stage or is it harder?

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Speaker 2: I think it was harder first because I was just

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so used to me and my guitar. Can you can

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kind of go where you feel.

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Speaker 3: With the band, it's got to be a bit more

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structured and follow the music. Yeah, but now I've kind

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of settled into that.

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Speaker 2: It's so much better. I feel like Superman on stage.

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It's like.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to describe, but I still love me

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acoustic gigs because that's a intimate and personal and you

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can really like connect with the songs again. But then

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when I go live, I just feel like a show

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man with the big band.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, that's excellent. Yeah, but you're still doing

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some Are you still doing some solo acoustic gigs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more so with Eddie.

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Speaker 3: So Eddie's like me main guitarists, and me and him

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kind of like do a few duet gigs where we

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just got with our acoustics. So there's a local artist

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called Lewis Betty and he's actually moved out to Canada, Okay,

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and he's done some he's done some big gigs over Lake,

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Canada and North America and stuff, and we got up

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support him in Liverpool recently and we've just done being

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Eddie with the two guitars.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like it's a good opening to a

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gig and we loved it.

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Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. I read something too

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about did you have you been performing or did you

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perform recently at a sports event?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when Liverpool Football Club we won the league in May. Yeah,

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I want to say, it's what May and to day

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we were going to win the league. Well we we

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allssumed we were going to win it. The new loads

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of the fans going to lie in the streets before

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the game, so like encordage the players as they were

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, so the club.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the club flds' be a good ideas put like

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a lot of music and as the coach was coming in,

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the team coach. Yeah, so luckily they picked me and

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there must have been.

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Speaker 2: Ten, fifteen, twenty zero people.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, so we're all setting off flairs and yeah,

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all kinds of it was madness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see that was surreal. And then so you performed

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there with the band.

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Speaker 2: No, that was just on me only the guitar.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, really in front of all those people?

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Oh what what was that like? Was that? I would

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think that would be a little bit scary. Well, I mean,

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you know, in a good way, but I mean, was

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it or how did you feel doing that?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say scary, It was the sound system. I

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knew the sound system weren't going to be big enough. Oh,

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so it was like it was like anxiety, anxiousness of that,

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But the actual singing of the songs all that, I've

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Speaker 2: Every week, so that didn't really phase me.

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Speaker 3: Sure, But what kind of ended up happening is I'll

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start singing one of the Liverpool songs and then the

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first few hundred thousand people start singing it, and then

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I could name myself and then the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the street will take over. Oh wow, like a wave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds challenging.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was like I want to kind of

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relaxed and thought, well, that's the way it is. I

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, is there a video of that online on

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YouTube or anything. I'm curious to see that.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a small video on we TikTok, but

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I've not shared a loft from And I said this

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to our manager recently. I was like, I've got all

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this Liverpool footage and I've never used it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a yeah, I'm very very curious just to

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see that. Actually, that sounds like such a unique experience.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'll send you someone here. What's up?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what did you say?

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Speaker 1: Oh perfect? Yeah, awesome. I would love that. Yeah, i'd

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love to see that. I'd love to see that. Another

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thing I read too that I wanted to ask you about. So,

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going back to piece in your sound for a moment,

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is this true? It's up over one hundred thousand streams.

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Speaker 1: Oh, fifteen thousand. Okay, No, that's still pretty good. It's

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still yes, yeah, No, that's fantastic. Yeah, that's great. That song.

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I would imagine that goes over well live right.

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night and local bars and stuff.

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that's a lot of fun live. Now, what's kind of

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the so we talk obviously the newest single, and then

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do you have another one on the way or what's

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what's kind of your future trajectory at this point?

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good position at the minute. We've got a couple of

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big promoters kind of negotiating with us a bit.

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Speaker 2: That's the right team.

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Speaker 1: Oh good.

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Speaker 3: So we've got one gig coming up on the fifth

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of December and that's with like a big promoter in

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the UK called This Feeling, So that's kind of like

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a trial and hopefully we do well on that gig

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and then that opens a big door with them. But

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also talking to I Love Live, which are massive and

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Liverpool okay, and we're looking at doing stuff with them

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next year. So we're just kind of putting an action

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plan together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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doing three songs in like a couple of days, and

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then that kind of sets us up for like most

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of the year because then you've released one, say February,

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one early summer, one late summer, and like that kind

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into an EP or an album or or just doing

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singles for now?

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Speaker 2: Again, we're sort of debating it.

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do you just release singles or do you release an EP.

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Speaker 3: So we've put two singles out, so we could put

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a third single out and then when you do the

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fourth you release that as an EP with.

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Speaker 2: The four songs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to get the best of both. But

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it's a with this ghost at a minute.

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that's that's one of the interesting challenges. You know, when

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was pretty pretty straightforward. You know, first single goes to

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radio four to six weeks before the album, and then

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the album comes out, and then if all goes well,

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you know, you do the second single and go from there.

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to do it. And yeah, it seems like a lot

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of the guests that we've had recently their strategy is

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do a series of singles that do eventually coalesce into

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an EP or an album. But yeah, but there's no

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there's no shortage of different strategies you can use.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think that's what most people try

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and do, always keep releasing singles.

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Speaker 2: Hope and one of them kind of blows up a bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then from nothing might get some sort

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of offer to go and record a full album something

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Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, absolutely, yeah, so many ways to do it. Well, Jamie,

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it's it's wonderful to talk to you this morning. Or

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I don't know what time it is there, it's probably

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is it afternoon there.

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Speaker 2: Three o'clock in the afternoon, three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: In the afternoon, So wonderful, wonderful to talk to you

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this afternoon. It's great to have you back, and you

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know we'll do it again when when the next singles out.

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We'd love to have you back. I love what you're doing,

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and in a moment we'll finish the conversation with a

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peace in your sound. For those who who did not

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hear our previous conversation, though, can you because I part

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of this is just selfishly I want to hear it

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again because I love this song so much, as you

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know from the last time we talked, absolutely adore this song.

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But what is this about again? For newer listeners who

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might not know.

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Speaker 3: Well, fairly, thank you very much because I massively appreciate

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peoplet your self support on the music for us because oh,

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of course, if people don't, we might as well just

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stay in the plattice room, right, So we do appreciate it. Yeah,

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the song itself is kind of explanatory to my life

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because it's very loud and chayota.

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Speaker 2: But the more thoughts about it, I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, everyone's so busy, Like there's so much going on

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in the world. I don't know whether it's always been

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like this or whether it's modern times, but.

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Speaker 2: It just seems crazy, so.

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Speaker 3: Loud, and once I kind of just accepted it and thought,

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you know what, I'm very lucky. I've got amazing wife,

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two beautiful kids. I'm a full time singer. Like that's

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like the dream I'm like, once A kind of accepted that,

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I'm I've got piece in the sound. The song just

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kind of came from that. It's like, fine piece in

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your sound and you love life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And obviously if you hear in some of the lyrics,

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I kind of devoted a bit to me wife because

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it's like sort of makes it a bit love related.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more just about like find your piece in

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your sound.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, No, I think that's uh, I think that's

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pretty relatable. A lot of us have chaotic lives, that's

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for sure. That's for sure. So we're gonna we're gonna

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hit that track in a moment. We'll let you go.

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But Jamie Higgs again, thank you so much for joining us.

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I look forward to the next single and and and

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talking to you again and keep up the great work.

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We're we're really big fans over here, so so we.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you to everyone listening as well, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, we'll let you go. Jamie Higgs, thank

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you so much, and we'll we'll talk to you soon.

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Take care, gee, thank you, all right, bye bye. All right,

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that is the great Jamie Higgs. And without further ado,

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we're going to hit this track. I love this so much. Uh,

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this is this piece in your sound. Bye Jamie Higgs.